40k-lore-chat

[jade holly]

Wait don’t nuns wear black mainly?

No wait they also wear white

[vast heart]

Every time I see a prominently white paint scheme on space marines I wanna try and do one so badly but every time I do I'm reminded of how much time and effort it took to get this fucker looking remotely presentable

[crisp heath]

Irl nuns can wear pretty much anything, the stereotypical black habit is based on the Bridgettines

[vast heart]

#40k-minis-and-armies message

[queen laurel]

OK guys I'm back from killing that gene stealer in the vent and i ha-

god damnit

[spare osprey]

ok these are another dudes. it's been like 2 years

gonna be honest

super unique looking

never seen anything like it

[rose thorn]

I LOVE TEH ASHEN CIRCLE

[spare osprey]

ever

[rose thorn]

<33333 Ashen circle come back to em in 10th pls

[crisp heath]

Yeah that's actually a slick design

[queen laurel]

that axe sword thing is sure is something

[vast heart]

Word Bearers right?

[rose thorn]

word bearers are amazing

[jade holly]

What about a constellation themed chapter and different units based on different zodiacs have unique gimmicks

[crisp heath]

Axe makes me think of Guy Fieri tho

[rose thorn]

yea!

[vast heart]

I'm assuming based on the words he's bearing

[jade holly]

Example, one based on Gemini… is basically a Jojo character

[spare osprey]

it's quite literally just WB

[jade holly]

[rose thorn]

their job is to destroy as much culture and history to replace with the imperial cult

[spare osprey]

speaking of which

[crisp heath]

Is the WB Guy Fieri axe canon

[spare osprey]

yes

[rose thorn]

they will charge and kill the old, burn the libraries, destroy teh art and statues

[vast heart]

Sounds like a cool freehand idea for thousand sons cloaks if nothing else

[crisp heath]

No

I won't allow it

[jade holly]

Just don’t ask about the ones who get Virgo

[spare osprey]

how about a chapter serf that killed a genestealer in close quarters combat

[queen laurel]

oooooh

[spare osprey]

y'know same things that rip through terminators

[vast heart]

I have a staff specifically made for this prophesized lad

It's 3 spiky melusai heads glued together in a triangle and it looks sick, Virginity Warrior hates slaanesh

[crisp heath]

Virgo themed characters tend to be pretty badass tbh

[vast heart]

I haven't actually decided which sorcerer is virginity warrior yet but one of them will be the chosen one

[jade holly]

One Virgin to rule them all

One Virgin to find them

[jade holly]

One Virgin to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

[crisp heath]

She killed that Genestealer so hard his abs are starting to fall off

[spare osprey]

no clue why she's so jacked there btw

in all the other art he's comm'd of her

sorta just average and in a dress

all his characters are red heads and do like crazy marine level shit

[crisp heath]

I have never seen a woman so fully clothed give off such heavy slave Leia vibes

[spare osprey]

named marine

[crisp heath]

Honestly? Man has taste. Can't fault him that.

[jade holly]

I’m gonna be honest

Red heads are my weakness

[crisp heath]

Silence has given us the information that we needed to get totally on board with this guy lmao

[spare osprey]

ha

[queen laurel]

i'm still thinking on how to write my fight scene between my 14 feet tall war boss versus my 28 feet tall hive tyrant with the height difference being this

[jade holly]

5’12 vs 6’0

[spare osprey]

other notable one is a tau commander who's on the inquisitions most wanted list

still no clue why

[jade holly]

I can take a guess

[spare osprey]

all his stuff is just wonky

like his chapter master who beat a WINGED Hive Tyrant

[crisp heath]

Dude likes redheads and ultraviolence, can't say nothing bad about him

[jade holly]

Likes redheads and ultraviolence so much you’d mistake him for being Scottish

[queen laurel]

A Scottish man will probably square up with a hive tyrant

so that is true

[jade holly]

Only a Hive Tyrant?

You’re not making it a fair fight for the nids

[crisp heath]

Norn emissary vs a scotsman

[spare osprey]

i'm bitchin a lot but some of the peeps on the homebrew wiki just drive me crazy

[jade holly]

Who would win: and entire batallion of trained, and armed Space marines who have thousands of years of experience, or one Sober Scotsman looking for his Scrumpy

[queen laurel]

That is why I am not gonna make a homebrew wiki for my own ork clan because of these lores

[jade holly]

I just realized

If Death Guard are basically walking corpses who can’t feel pain

[crisp heath]

I still need to write Da Femboyz

[jade holly]

Aren’t they basically already Dreadnoughts?

[queen laurel]

i will kill you

[spare osprey]

i mean why would you make your inbred pysker character attractive and then argue about how it makes sense.

even Cassia looks fucked up

[arctic talon]

Krule boyz

[jade holly]

I’m going to make a Homebrew Ork klan called “SquigNott”

[arctic talon]

Death guard marines are less tanky then dreads

[jade holly]

Please tell me someone gets that

[arctic talon]

And they also like

[spare osprey]

yeah this makes sense for a navigator

[arctic talon]

Can’t carry as large a weapon payload

[crisp heath]

You can complain all you want Femboyz are the greatest idea I've ever had

Ork SoB

[jade holly]

Do I wanna even know what a DG Dread would be like

[arctic talon]

Death guard hell brute

[crisp heath]

Just Orks running around in stolen boob armor and burning everything in their path

glorious

[jade holly]

I still think SquigNott would be a hilarious satire

[spare osprey]

but i mean at least have some more blood shot eyes on this. at least

idk

[arctic talon]

You can see one in the background

[crisp heath]

Bite your tongue, heretic

Cassia is an angel

[jade holly]

She looks like she had a totaled crash with those air bags

[jade holly]

Jeez Typhus is one chunky boi

[spare osprey]

just feels weird to make your characters attractive just cause "it gives them a sense of importance"

[vast heart]

That is just straight up Cassie from Paladins lol

[spare osprey]

biblically accurate maybe

[jade holly]

Ah so you too, are cultured

[vast heart]

Nah absolutely fuck that entire concept tbh, distinctive-looking people are where it's at

[queen laurel]

I grew up liking armored giant killing machines a lot more than handsome faces

monster stuff like that

so i don't get the appeal of the handsome faces

[jade holly]

Rejective Cute attractiveness, become badass

[vast heart]

The full spectrum of things that can be attractive goes so far beyond just aeshetics and cultural values

[crisp heath]

I make all my characters attractive, people are just afraid of what I'm attracted to

[arctic talon]

I love the 9e death guard art

[queen laurel]

i've seen scarier online

[arctic talon]

Yarrick has a nice jaw line

[queen laurel]

so probably what you're attracted to is not the worst

[jade holly]

A badass jawline

Is Yarrick still alive?

[crisp heath]

I never said it was bad, in fact I'm the only person with taste

[vast heart]

I am a degenerate lmao

only 2k of those are AFK

[jade holly]

Better than Overwatch

at least

[queen laurel]

And I believe you because some people who say that what they like is not that worse, only for it to turn out to be worse looking than a chaos spawn has gotten deep into my psyche

Can never truly recover from those days

[jade holly]

All I’m gonna say is

Muscle mommy supremacy

I mean

Uhhh

Badass soldiers

[queen laurel]

Get the **** out of my vents you ******* insect

[spare osprey]

that's why he has Kaiju

and jack sparrow

[jade holly]

POV: you’re watching me at 3AM and I’m at the fridge

[queen laurel]

this looks like a dimetrodon fucked otachi from Pacific Rim

[vast heart]

This reminds me of a tbskyen video thats quite relevant gimme a sec

[jade holly]

I won’t let you let forget the main Jaeger in Pacific Rim is named Gypsy Danger

[vast heart]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ua704gj2lH0?si=oQczyRxd8iGiNc4j

This pefectly sums up the annoying "make everything sexy at the cost of giving it actual character" thing

[spare osprey]

no wait sorry, Jakk Sero

[jade holly]

Then there’s the opposite end, where devs make every female butt ass ugly in the game

looks at Aloy in Forbidden West

[crisp heath]

I mean, wasn't it made by Americans? Up until extremely recently I don't think many Americans had any awareness that could possibly be a slur

[arctic talon]

Aloy looks the same

Between the 2 games

[vast heart]

I'm honestly fine with that as long as they're visually distinct

[crisp heath]

I think most Americans until pretty recently didn't even realize it referred to an ethnic group

[vast heart]

Give me a noticeable height disparity between two female characters

[jade holly]

Then how about Tanya in MK1

Look at who she’s modeled after

Then look at her in game

[arctic talon]

She also looks fine outside of when she’s angry

[vast heart]

Make one taller than a male character (who's height isn't played for laughs)

[arctic talon]

Don’t use cherry picked screenshots from the trailer

She looks fine in game imo

[jade holly]

I’m not, I played the whole game

[arctic talon]

Idk who she’s based on

But I wouldn’t call her ugly

By any measure

[jade holly]

When you see her model you’ll say it

They did her so damn dirty in game

[arctic talon]

I think she looks fine in game

If the person she’s based on is a lot more attractive sucks I guess

But I think she looks fine

[vast heart]

Most places outside of Europe don't really recognise it as a slur

We have a type of ham that we serve where I work and it's from a place called Gippsland

So they call it Gypsy Ham. No one bats an eye except for the occasional european who's always super sheepish to say it

[jade holly]

The real question is when we getting the e girl Ogryns

[crisp heath]

I've never played but I'm looking at screenshots and I literally cannot tell what's supposed to make her unattractive

I think you might just be lowkey picky, dude

[queen laurel]

yeah i don't see it

[arctic talon]

https://preview.redd.it/tanyas-face-model-v0-wzyfx3okoqdb1.jpg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc169dfda570fdf7d5880c1c5efb2f89b51f0a69

This is her face model

For MK1

[jade holly]

Ok fine maybe I have a thing against very sharp jawlines

[arctic talon]

Idk I think she looks fine in game

[jade holly]

[arctic talon]

Kano got less hot between MK11 and 1

[jade holly]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Lost the beard

[jade holly]

Wait a minute

[arctic talon]

[jade holly]

He’s just buff Jschaltt

Apparently Typhus is one Hell of a storyteller

[crisp heath]

Why did Typhus get to be Orpheus???

[jade holly]

“Deep bass voice”

Welp I know who he needs to be voiced by

Someone get Kevin Michael Richardson in here

[crisp heath]

I really like the implication of Typhus having a wonderful singing voice while also being Typhus

[jade holly]

One minute he’ll genocide a planet by just existing

Next he’ll sing That’s Life by Frank Sinatra

[crisp heath]

Honestly? Very Nurgle

[rose sail]

What about Morgan Freeman?

[jade holly]

Bruh Typhus is so badass, mf beat a Khornate daemon Mano a Mano, then gave its guts to Nurgle directly and survived

Even get a bufff to his scythe while at the cauldron

[jade holly]

Deep BASS voice

Morgan’s voice is deep but it doesn’t have the power a bass voice brings with it

KMR would be the perfect option

or Orson Wells but I’m pretty sure he’s dead

[crisp heath]

Which Space Marine is most likely to own a cat

[jade holly]

Lorgar

He’s the most cliche evil

[crisp heath]

You're right

What no it's because he appreciates their calm and quiet, but also finds their occasional zoomies amusing

It's Lorgar

[jade holly]

Imagine being so desperate to simp you cause a massive civil war

because daddy didn’t want to be seen as a god

[crisp heath]

Wait no he's a primarch you failed your assignment

[queen laurel]

I bet your cheese guilliman would own a turtle or something

[jade holly]

Titus would own a Golden Retriever

[crisp heath]

Guilliman has potted plants he treats like pets, hands down

[jade holly]

Rogal would have a pet rock

[crisp heath]

Russ 100% has an aggressive dog he refuses to keep on a leash and calls "princess"

[jade holly]

Mf looks like he’d be the vocalist in a metal band fr fr

[crisp heath]

I bet Sicarius is a cat person

[jade holly]

Mf looks like Voldemort if he didn’t lost his nose but still looked like a virgin

[queen laurel]

Khan

hmmm

a giant hawk or eagle?

[jade holly]

Hawk or Eagle

Mongolians apparently have a thing where some people have a pet hawk or Eagle they have throughout their life and at some point they release it back into the wild

[crisp heath]

Fulgrim would buy a white tiger, which he keeps in a pen that you shouldn't even keep a dog in all day, and not understand why people are upset with him

[jade holly]

No

He’s all about being prim and perfect

He’d have a Pomeranian

[crisp heath]

He'd have a white handbag chihuahua

Which he brings with him to law school

[queen laurel]

Alpharius would have a chameleon

[crisp heath]

Lion is the cat primarch actually

Lion is the kind of guy who thinks dogs aren't pets, they're farm equipment, and probably has hunting dogs but the only animal he'd let sleep in his bed is a cat

[queen laurel]

i thought you would say the lion would have a giant war lion like in warhammer fantasy

[jade holly]

You know what would be a cool reveal for Darktide?

[crisp heath]

No he has a cat he calls Mittens

[jade holly]

That this was actually because of Typhus

[arctic talon]

It’s the walking pox so

Most likely not him

[jade holly]

Dang

[arctic talon]

If it was the plague of disbelief then yeah

I could see it

[queen laurel]

If someone at the stature of typhus was to be related in this planet in any way then our forces would not stand any chance

[arctic talon]

Yeah that also lol

he's pretty horrifying

and also most likely immortal

[queen laurel]

You shoot that ******* with a plasma gun he will look at your general direction and cast a magical plague and turn you into fucking soup

[uneven current]

bob the builder is that you?

[jade holly]

Well now I know why Mortarion called his lot the Death Guard

This is a pretty metal origin ngl

[vast heart]

I have the upmost respect for Jshclatt deliberately making himself hideous so he doesn't stop being funny

I could never I'm such a cutie

[unborn gust]

Would a loyalist space marine chapter rather team up with Xenos or Traitor marines

[celest dome]

Xenos

[queen laurel]

Xenos, aliens are not really trusted by the imperium but they are still better than literal traitors that abandoned everything that the empires stands for

[arctic talon]

Xenos because chaos is far more foul

[thick cedar]

When the emperor talked to Gulliman, what did the Emperor sound like

[arctic talon]

Fragmented, cold, and sounded nothing like the emperor in the past

Also referred to Gulliman as a tool

[urban spire]

TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE

https://tenor.com/view/unspeakable-violence-unspeakable-violence-gif-25206571

[green loom]

Aside from them not using like half those

GW might get rid of most to add in copyrightable equivalents

[median marsh]

Like how they changed race names for age of sigmar? Unless there was a different reason

Like orcs became orruks

(I forgot how it's spelled)

[green loom]

Geedubz don't really care unless it's like
A straight up slur or something they want to copyright

[median marsh]

[queen laurel]

the settings incredibly dark tone is one of the things they value so they will try their best to keep it as grim dark as possible

So yeah I can see them just straight up finding ways to substitute the words

[storm jungle]

Also that's because DnD is a bit more careful with actual racial terms/slang, GW has already entirely avoided this with most stuff in Warhammer.

They did fuck up bad and made lots of racist stuff in Warhammer Fantasy but those got buried with time, 40k in comparison has racism but its mostly fictionalized, the only comparison you could make is maybe Greenskins which is kinda iffy but i dont think anyone minds it that much.

[green loom]

Also DND is

considerably

More mainstream than 40k

Dread the day this week's quirky teen drama shows off space marine models

[storm jungle]

^

If Warhammer was that famous GW would do the exact same thing.

[median marsh]

[new fear unlocked]

I remember when peta engaged with Warhammer briefly, it was..very weird

[green loom]

Frankly wouldn't change much since the main thing would definitely be space marines, and they're already stupid sanitized

[queen laurel]

Surprisingly pretty tame only about the use of animals on the characters

[median marsh]

Yeah, it was just so out of the blue

[storm jungle]

To be fair

PETA has no power for the most part

and furs are a different deal to racial stuff

[queen laurel]

Just let the Internet be, these are the same people who called the tyranids as a parody of the Jews

tyranids

You know the monsters that eats planets to the point that almost no biological life is left on it

[storm jungle]

yeah because most warhammer fans are stupid 💀

[green loom]

Especially me

[median marsh]

I feel like if a person sees space bugs that survive by stripping all life from worlds as Jewish they need immediate medical attention

[queen laurel]

If they think that in the first place any medical attention is not going to help

[median marsh]

..true

[urban spire]

wrt slurs: the way some of the voice lines calls the psyker a freak kinda hits too close to home

[storm jungle]

Yeah but in this case said freak can pop their heads open or burn them to death with electricity.

So you know, at least there's that

[vast heart]

Okay sure but the Tyrannids run the banks we all know it

[urban spire]

idk, there's been times where hearing those lines just makes me want to turn the game off

the psyker solidarity is very heartwarming though

[storm jungle]

Psykers are very much social outcasts so that adds up

but don't let it get to you

theres a reason the only zealot I can play is Judge because he/she is the least fascist out of the other two

mostly because I cannot stand bigots 💀

[urban spire]

i think it's appropriate

to the setting

[green loom]

That's a surprise

You'd think the one named after an authority figure would be the very fascist one

But then I remember that the other two are just insane psychos with an agenda

[queen laurel]

the ogryns at least likes the spark heads, except bully no surprise there

But of course they are still careful with them because you know they're spark heads

[urban spire]

i like the way bully warms to the rest of the party over time

[storm jungle]

Bully is deffo the tough love ogryn

[storm jungle]

He still has a bit of fascism but as the name goes he doesn't have a bias towards anyone

[queen laurel]

Yeah like he is willing to trust people as long as you know how to respect him

[storm jungle]

while the other two zealots say dying in factories is a holy duty the Judge actively says its a shit thing

[vast heart]

Yeah imo the zealot is like Takeo in the old CoD zombies, he's hands down the most boring one personality wise and no one wants to be him, but his presence grounds the humour/ridiculousness of the others

[green loom]

I wouldn't say they're boring

[wet sandal]

• J K Rowling

[median marsh]

Professional veteran struggles with psykers a bit, on one hand he dislikes them, but on the other hand appreciates the contribution

[green loom]

I find the ogryn pretty one note

[median marsh]

Their dislike comes from them not understanding/being weirded out by warp powers specifically I feel

[green loom]

I mean

[queen laurel]

the bully judge interaction is goated

[vast heart]

Actually while I've got that mentioned does anyone know if the German psyker is played by the same guy who played Richtofen in zombies bc they sound extremely similar

[green loom]

They're watching a guy point his hand at something

And then that something either having it's head blow up or get electrocuted to death

[storm jungle]

Nope

hes a semi-unknown theatre actor

He also voices Bully Ogryn

and Horus in the HH trailer from GW

[vast heart]

Damn that's actually pretty solid range wise

[median marsh]

Did you know that Mutant is voiced by a metal singer

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eha5tsrzvkE&ab_channel=Fatshark

[storm jungle]

Yeah I literally had no idea

[wet sandal]

Drama actors

[median marsh]

He is so good

[green loom]

I used to live with theatre actors, this isn't unusual

[median marsh]

Voice Actors are cool, really interesting what people can do with their voice

[storm jungle]

Voice actors are pretty voicey

[median marsh]

I can barely speak for long without losing all my energy in mean time ; v;

[storm jungle]

or get a sore throat

or need to drink water

or gag

[green loom]

I'm a trained public speaker

[storm jungle]

I try saying some DT lines when Im bored and alone sometimes

and man all 3 of the above happen and it sucks 💀

[median marsh]

🫂

[storm jungle]

it makes me realise my childhood dreams of becoming a VA were basically null but alas

[spare osprey]

I too am a trained public speaker.

Particularly best “ummmmm” and “uhhhhhhhh”

Or the “hmmmmm”

[storm jungle]

ah yes the Politician/Airplane Pilot method

[wooden ridge]

If I ever say whatever the psyker says will I end up in the asylum?

[median marsh]

Depends on situation

If you run at random people yelling their lines, definitely

[storm jungle]

less asylum

more likely getting arrested or tazed

[green loom]

I'm told I have a good voice for cartoons

[median marsh]

Imagine taking a walk and suddenly hearing loner psyker

BY MY INCOMPARABLE MIND

[wooden ridge]

SUCH POWER

[jade holly]

I work best behind the scenes

Being the one who makes sure things don’t go horribly wrong

Basically the opposite of Lorgar or Horus

Or the Emperor

[green loom]

They're the people who make sure things do go horribly wrong

[median marsh]

I make an ideal Admech/Administratum clerk

[jade holly]

I mean I did say I’m the opposite of them

[median marsh]

You can put me in an archive, feed me at regular intervals and occasionally throw me money and I'll be satisfied

And also be incredibly hissy at anyone daring to disturb my data

[jade holly]

If I were to have a DG army, you think I could get away with doing my own homebrew chapter by painting their armor a withered and murky black and calling them “The Black Death”?

[median marsh]

I don't think there are limits on homebrews

So you can make em anything you want em to be

[urban spire]

wow that is an incredibly wide range

mind you don't have to be crazy talented with your voice to be a VA, it's more about industry contacts

[jade holly]

And if you’re in a union or not but that’s another can of worms

[storm jungle]

Yeah exactly

its why I hate people like Troy Baker

[urban spire]

why what's he done

[storm jungle]

hes talented but also more or less entirely hogs any spot good VAs could use to get their time in the spotlight or fame, theres tons of VAs that go unrecognized because of stuff like this.

[jade holly]

Is it because he’s Union or something?

[urban spire]

ah

[storm jungle]

no idea on the Union bit

i just hate his overexposure

[jade holly]

Just looked it up

He’s a member of SAG-AFTRA

[storm jungle]

like almost all of DT's cast is theatre actors

[green loom]

Laura Bailey is everywhere because her husband runs a VA company iirc

[urban spire]

that's cool

[jade holly]

Ngl I don’t think I’ll ever join a Union

Sure the benefits and safety nets are cool

[urban spire]

i love sienna's VA, she does the female seer voice right?

[jade holly]

But man, they limit freedom so much

When you join a Union you’re not allowed to do any non union work

[median marsh]

It's like how Chris Pratt seems to be fukin everywhere

[urban spire]

i do not like that man

[jade holly]

From an acting standpoint or?

[green loom]

She does a voiceover for bannerlord and is also Vlaakith in BG3

[urban spire]

neat

[urban spire]

i think he's a fine actor

[jade holly]

YOU HAVE TO PAY TO JOIN A UNION?

[urban spire]

:)

[jade holly]

BRUH

And it ain’t cheap either

[urban spire]

still, unions are important

[jade holly]

$3k to join SAG-AFTRA

I get they can be important but GOD DAYUM

[urban spire]

it's less than what you'd lose if the union is weak

[storm jungle]

WAIT WHAT

3K?

[urban spire]

when a union is strong, non-union jobs pay well

when the union is weak, no job pays well

and your employer is going to abuse the shit out of you

[celest dome]

None of the U5 have voiced a player characters.
The list is in the pins

[storm jungle]

Yeah the only ones are uh

[jade holly]

“The national initiation fee for becoming a SAG-AFTRA member is $3,000”

[storm jungle]

Saltz VA for one of the traitor captain variants

and Bardin's VA for Melk

[jade holly]

Forget what I said, Unions are evil

[storm jungle]

also true lol

[urban spire]

better than the alternative

[storm jungle]

yep

the VA industry is a harsh place

unless you get a highlight role you'll never be well known

or if you are like Steve Blum or Fred Tatasticore where you feature in every fucking game ever as random enemy NPCs

[urban spire]

or you start your career as an already successful streamer/actor

[storm jungle]

that Giovanni guy is a good example

good lad he is

[urban spire]

love him

[jade holly]

Sometimes being background NPCs have their benefits

You psychologically cling to the minds of players

Taunting them

Making them remember your voice

[urban spire]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5PUzaDawTwk?feature=share

[jade holly]

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah no i didnt mean that as a bad thing

like they are deffo talented its more that their job is basically that and nothing else

Blum was my VA hero for awhile in the mid 2000's

[jade holly]

My fav VA is Darin de Paul

He’s just such a nice guy in real life

[storm jungle]

hes an absolute teddy bear

[urban spire]

wait thats not giovanni

i got my italian names mixed up

[storm jungle]

lmao whoops

[vast heart]

Can't wait for his "wholesome puppy dog" marketing persona to fade away dudes a scumbag

[storm jungle]

Yeah Pratt is just a rich hollywood asshat

not much beyond that

[jade holly]

Ngl

[urban spire]

hey there's more to him than that

he also promotes his homophobic church

[jade holly]

None of the MCU actors are all that good of people

Besides like Dave Bautista and Chris Hemsworth

[storm jungle]

Lmao god

[green loom]

Speaking of Fred and Giovanni

https://mightandmagic.fandom.com/wiki/Giovanni

Behold, Giovanni voiced by Fred

[storm jungle]

yeah Giovanni is a really common name on the net

hate it

[jade holly]

We need more Gepettos

[storm jungle]

Joey Two-Lips

https://tenor.com/view/robert-de-nilo-goodfellas-angry-gif-22087774

[jade holly]

Don three-Di-

[green loom]

I love Brian bloom

https://youtu.be/nEuh8SKLQ7k?si=ykO32LdbtK8lOMWS

[storm jungle]

OH

Blazkovich's actor

god he is great

[green loom]

And Varrik from DA

And male trooper in SWTOR

[vast heart]

'Ay yo Tony Tight-Lips

Where'd they hit ya?'

[green loom]

And like 50 other roles

[storm jungle]

this is about as bad as when my friend made a joke chapter modelled after the Sopranos/Dimeo Crew

💀

[median marsh]

Expendables but it's a stormtrooper squad

[vast heart]

Okay I thought painting my Scarab occults to look like TMNT was getting a little ridiculous but I see I have shown a great deal of restraint

[storm jungle]

LMAO

yeah uhhh

[vast heart]

YOO

[green loom]

I prefer "Aprile crew"

[median marsh]

Turtlebacks chapter vs Insidious chaos lord Shredder

[normal light]

I see skaven

[storm jungle]

🎵 Teenage Mutant Ninja Marines 🎵

🎵 Teenage Mutant Ninja Marines 🎵

🎵 Teenage Mutant Ninja Marines 🎵

🎵 Marines in a black carapace shell, MARINE POWER 🎵

[vast heart]

See I'm not gonna go full kitbash I'm just using Talassar, Luxion, Magmadroth and Baal contrast paints bc I liked the colours and it doubles as a TMNT thing

[normal light]

Mutant , that sounds heretical , love it

[green loom]

"The Sopranos??? They're a glorified company!"

[normal light]

Paint Necron in white and say that they are just skeletons armed with energy weapons

💀

[green loom]

At one point I wanted to make marble Necrons with gold bits

[storm jungle]

"I don't care what anyone says, IN THIS CHAPTER, HORUS LUPERCAL IS A HERO."

[queen laurel]

a spoiler image

i wonder wha-

god dammit

[storm jungle]

[normal light]

https://tenor.com/view/lookin-gif-25034406

What? You don`t like this snake?

It looks funny

[vast heart]

Have you seen the fuckinf diaroma the guy made of the Joe Rogryn experience? I laughed so hard its such a well painted design and for WHAT

Shit I think its in another discord I need to go hunting, bro perfectly recreated the whole set of the podcast and made the Ogryns look so much like him the whole thing is such a beautiful shitpost

[crystal forum]

my life is complete

[jade holly]

I’m watching a true rivalry battle bois

White Scars vs DG

Khan v Mort

[storm jungle]

I cant wait for the Khan to sit down and perform a Hu song

https://tenor.com/view/playing-the-morin-khuur-the-hu-coachella-playing-music-heavy-metal-band-gif-25482173

[jade holly]

It’s a proven fact that you get bonus additions on rolls when blasting Hu as the White Scars

Even more bonus points if you blast Wolf Totem

[crystal forum]

khan throat singing about that time he beat up a dark eldar

[shadow plover]

die

[jade holly]

I’m surprised I never saw someone paint a White Scars army black and make the red scar white

[spare osprey]

I mean there was a WS unit that was black armor

[jade holly]

I like how the entire gameplan of DG is just “go ahead, get close”

[green loom]

Shadow Keshig right

[spare osprey]

Ebon but yeah

[jade holly]

Those are actually pretty cool looking

[spare osprey]

Then they had a destroyer rank that was mainly red armor

[jade holly]

That just looks like a rip-off power ranger

[vast heart]

The Roadhog of tabletop armies lmao

[jade holly]

The grappler of tabletop armies

if you’re close, it’s gonna hurt

Putting some fighting game lingo in here seems like you need to zone em out

[vast heart]

Lmao I think the fighting game metaphor transfers over well

Tau are that asshole who keeps spamming fireballs and keepaway at you

[jade holly]

This makes an interesting scenario, WS needs to keep using their speed to outmaneuver DG and zone out their main units

[vast heart]

Tsons are Scorpion mains who teleport behind you and light you on fire

[jade holly]

But if they decide to rush head on, well

[vast heart]

I mean white scars are about as close as you can get to playing aeldar without actually playing aeldar right?

[jade holly]

You overestimate my knowledge of tabletop armies

I only know WS and DG cause DG is my fav faction and WE are their rivals

[vast heart]

Nah fair honestly lol

[jade holly]

Does Jaghatai Khan have a tabletop model?

[shadow plover]

in Horus Heresy yes

[jade holly]

Jeez DG is wiping out WS’s bikes

[jade holly]

That looks like Hell to paint

[shadow plover]

not that bad honestly

[jade holly]

THE FUCK AM I LOOKING AT?

[queen laurel]

your saying?

[jade holly]

My condolences to Admech players

[shadow plover]

ye THAT looks like hell to paint

[jade holly]

Where’s the go-go-gadget extendo legs Admech when you need them

Wait doesn’t Typhus have a disease that limits the movement of enemy units?

[vast heart]

I think the chapter feuds are

Ultramarines and Word Bearers

Thousand Sons and Space Wolves

Iron Warriors and Imperial Fists

White Scars and Emperors Children (funnily enough these two had so much more beef than Morty ever did with the Khan)

Night Lords/Alpha Legion and Raven Guard

idk if any of the others had any major beef

[jade holly]

Bruh I see how it is

DG ain’t special enough for a feud

[vast heart]

Morty is just a petulant bitch to be honest he spent more time picking on Magnus for being a nerd than anything

[jade holly]

I mean when you have someone like Typhus carrying the DG you barely need to do anything

[vast heart]

Like I really wanna love mortarion but he's just an edgy kid who hates his stupid stepdad and I CANT GET OVER IT

[jade holly]

Plus I’m sure he’s still petty over what happened to him

[vast heart]

Which is fair enough ig but it looks really petty when you compare it to what happened to Magnus or Angron

[jade holly]

Didn’t Magnus become what he is of his own volition?

Angron sure I can see that

[vast heart]

Nah he got hardcore backed into a corner

[jade holly]

Well if anything at the end of the day Typhus is basically the head honcho

Morty is the backup

Man this is a close match

Round 3 and the scores are tied

So I lied it’s actually 23-10 in WS’s favor

[vast heart]

Emps told his son who was absolutely obsessed with magic "dont do magic, no I will not explain why, fuck you for asking"

Magnus found out Horus was a traitor, realized he'd be intercepted by Horus or the Alpha Legion if he tried to physically travel to big E to warn him and knew he couldn't trust vox channels

He used magic to try and astral project himself into the imperial palace and accidentally fucked up the Emperors Webway project (that wouldn't have worked properly, anyway) and let daemons into it.

Big E basically decided on the spot that Magnus was the traitor bc of what happened and sent Russ to capture him

Horus lies to Russ and says that Big E wants Russ to kill Magnus and Russ, being the the extremely consistently written not-mary-sue that he is is totally down bad to kill Magnus and his boys, they attack prospero and Magnus is eventually forced to pledge himself and his legion to Tzeentch and teleports them all out to a magic planet in the warp where Magnus is to this day

Lowkey magnus actually didn't really have a choice

Then Ahriman decided he was gonna fix all of the mutations and free them and basically turned the entire legion into dusty golems

[storm jungle]

Yeah its a mix of poor writing and uhh authors going

"Well we gotta make the Emperor be stupid and make Magnus fall to chaos somehow."

[green loom]

And also Magnus being an idiot

His most consistent trait

[vast heart]

Nah I will not accept this, you don't tell your magic obssessed son not to do magic and not explain why

Its like telling your kid about how awesome drugs are and then forgetting to tell them about the bad part where you're sucking off strangers in alleys

[green loom]

If you tell him why he'll think he knows better and do it anyway

[jade holly]

28-24 WS adv.

It’s getting heated here

[shadow plover]

YOO

[jade holly]

ROCK AND STONE

[versed ledge]

That is one cool excavator

Sort of wonder what a bunch of miners are fighting to warrant heavy artillery

[median marsh]

Well there's plenty of absolutely horrid things everywhere

For miners specifically there's a species of basically huge, angry rock eating insectoids for example

[coarse pumice]

Necromunda squats imo capture the space dwarf aesthetic better than votann

[jade holly]

So if I’m understanding this, per round each player goes once. And each turn has phases? Movement, Psyker, Shooting, Charge and Fight?

[storm jungle]

Uhhhhhhh

I got no idea.

[jade holly]

I do like that terrain actually matters for cover and movement

[queen laurel]

All I know for tabletop is models look good

That's literally the only brain processor I have for tabletop related things

[celest dome]

Votaan are too much Raypunk for me

[daring monolith]

Can a psyker use his powers like a pseudo microwave?

[storm jungle]

pseudo microwave?

[celest dome]

Like cause heat by making microwaves ?

Conflagration - The air around the psyker is choked with ash and cinders, swirling in an unseen wind. The very atmosphere grows hot, burning the eyes and throat. With a thought, the psyker can send the cinders whipping around an unlucky individual, enveloping them in flame. This power fills the area within range of the psyker with heat, ashes, and cinders. Easily flammable items, such as paper or promethium, ignite.
Does this fit your need ?

[celest dome]

It's from the Primaris Psyker Pyrokinesis

[arctic talon]

Yes command phase, movement, shooting, charge, fight, then end turn

If you want to learn the rules of the game

They are literally free

https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/

[daring monolith]

More like BBQ but it would suffice

[green loom]

Isn't this just the flame staff

[echo vault]

Do you think Space marines use servitors and such to move their large swaths of ammunitions? I'm just hoping for a warhammer+ red corsairs series where we see a bunch of corsairs marines running with ammunition barrels like in darktide not expecting this luxury to be gone as they're running off to their thunderhawk

[storm jungle]

This has been a thing for a long time yeah

Marines leave any lower "chores" to serfs or servitors

[median marsh]

more efficient this way too, Marines are almost always on ready to deploy so leaving menial tasks to serfs is ideal

plus probably makes said serfs feel special or even appreciated depending on the chapter

[jade holly]

Prob feel real special in the Sallies

[echo vault]

I'm just a tiny star wars vehicle used for transportation being in 40k and now it just has the upper half of a servitor on it that pulls and grabs ammo

some kinda 40k servitor forklift

[median marsh]

probably exists somewhere

servitors are used pretty much everywhere so having one as a forklift wouldnt surprise me

the ultimate forklift certification

[echo vault]

the servitor arms are just the prongs on a forklift now

[gaunt sable]

Mmmmph. Been reading Witchbringer since I'm jonesing for solid Sanctioned Psyker stuff that doesn't have anything to do with the Inquistion.

Good book with some interesting stuff. But one thing is rather peculiar.
Namely that the Scholastica Psykana facility we're introduced to seems to be run by the Ministorum.

And that's like. Something I've literally never come across before.

And it doesn't feel right.
Not sure if it's just that facility or a organization wide thing. But.....

1. Why would the Ministorum be in charge of training Psykers?
2. Why would the other organizations be comfortable or allow the Ministorum to sink it's claws into the AAT like that? That's a lot of political power.

It could just be a peculiarity of that facility. But still seems strange.

[celest dome]

The Psykana is part/Overseen of the Ministorum

[storm jungle]

Yeah the Inquisition doesn't see anything to do with psykers

[gaunt sable]

Since when? That's not on any of the organizational charts I've ever seen.

The Adeptus Astra Telepathica is under the Adeptus Terra and even has their own high lord.
(And is divided between the Order of the Black Ships and the Scholastica Psykana.)

[storm jungle]

Its probably a facility specific thing, the Ministorum is not really ever mentioned to interfere with Telepathica stuff all that much.

[gaunt sable]

Maybe?
Just seems weird. The Perfector of the facility is a Priest.

[storm jungle]

Yeah its a facility thing prob

Theres a lot of lore about the school and Ministorum stuff is almost never mentioned anywhere, training psykers is mostly the Telepathica's territory

[gaunt sable]

Just wild that the first real novel that's entirely focused on the AAT/SP and it's run by the Ministorum. Like how's a Priest with a 'leashed' Psyker 'Hound' supposed to run Hogwarts from Hell?

[storm jungle]

I mean

nobody said 40k novels can be always good or inconsistent

trust me ive seen worse

[gaunt sable]

Oh I have to. XD
Just annoying.

[celest dome]

Is it young/early training or specific trainings ?

Cause Psyker get training from the Scholastia then get further training at differnt faculties depending on where they will go

[gaunt sable]

Only in the second chapter. The chief PoV character was a member of the Guard prior and is in her fifth year at the SP facility.

And it's pretty clear it's at a Psykana facility.

[celest dome]

Which book is it

[gaunt sable]

Witchbringer.

Pretty interesting stuff so far and not what I'd call a bad book.

Just baffling why the Ministorum is running a teaching facility.

Like. I could by the Ministorum having a presence to make sure nothing fucky is going on. But the head of the facility is a Priest and the characters combat training is being done by a Crusader.

[storm jungle]

Yeah that is weird

[celest dome]

Really make it feel like it's a secondary training and not the primary one. One done by the Imperial Guard Chain of command

Oh, Flail
Maybe a force one

[gaunt sable]

I dunno maybe? I don't get the sense it's one of the secondary facilities. At least not yet. In the second chapter after all.

Like I said. It's just weird because you'd think the Inquisition and other organizations would be like.
"Yeah, no. The last thing the Ministorum needs is more political power."

[urban spire]

the master of the adeptus astra telepathica is a high lord of terra and oversees both the scholastia and the blackships, they are not suborned to the ministorum i don't think

[gaunt sable]

The Black Sentinels are back at least.

[gaunt sable]

They are not.

At least not unless something has DRASTICALLY changed in the last year or two.

[storm jungle]

Yeah I think this might be the author just trying to implement some of his own takes on how the schools might be run in some places.

Because telepathica almost have ZERO official novels

[gaunt sable]

Also wasn't the AAT High Lord the only one to not try and Starscream Rowboat?

[storm jungle]

It was them and a few others

[gaunt sable]

Which sucks

[storm jungle]

but not like every 13 of them

[storm jungle]

Yup

most of their lore literally comes from Fantasy Flight RPG books

[gaunt sable]

Sanctioned Psykers unless their Inquisitors never seem to show up.

[urban spire]

there really should be more psyker stuff

[gaunt sable]

Or Cubicle 7.

[celest dome]

The primary teaching yes, but the secondary it's less clear, and seem like it's more about the people who would house the Psyker after which are then controling it

[urban spire]

not space marines NOT SPACE MARINES

[storm jungle]

Yep but FF was the one that kinda set up most of it Cubi came after

[gaunt sable]

As much as I dislike Wrath and Glory it has some interesting AAT lore.

[urban spire]

waffle stomp magnus down the drain like the unwanted shower turd he is

[gaunt sable]

And that new TTRPG they came out with also has some good stuff.

[gaunt sable]

Maybe? I've seen a lot of lore that indicates that secondary facilities are still SP affliated.

[urban spire]

they shoulda let ffg keep the license

they did such a good job with it

[storm jungle]

It was a weird case

FF also just wanted to go and do more Star Wars

[urban spire]

ffg star wars is a firm Okay

[gaunt sable]

Eeeeh that Maledicticum book actually has some cool stuff and is more in line with FFG's stuff then wrath and glory.

WG stuff was just....Sad. xD

[urban spire]

WG?

[gaunt sable]

Wrath and Glory.

[urban spire]

ah right

[gaunt sable]

W&G then I guess.

:v

[urban spire]

i haven't read much of the post-ffg rpg stuff, i don't remember what it was exactly but something about it really turned me off

[gaunt sable]

W&G was actually done by another company but was transferred over to C7.

[arctic talon]

Wrath and glory isn't good

at all

Imperium Malidictum is great imo

[gaunt sable]

C7 is still doing a few books I think of it but seems to be doing their own version with Imperium Maledictum.

[gaunt sable]

Some of the lore is okayish.

Good supplementary stuff.

[arctic talon]

fair

[gaunt sable]

Didn't say it was good. :v
But it's AAT lore is actually decent.

And at least they talk about it unlike FFG.

Although FFG did give us that Temple Calix stuff.

[urban spire]

more like adeptus astra telepathetica

[gaunt sable]

And an actual ranking system that they use.

I honestly like FFG's take on Psykers and stuff rather then GW's on take with Wyrdvane Psykers which are just.... Pitiful.

[arctic talon]

Wyrdvanes as a group existed entierly for tabletop purposes

tbh

everytime they showed up in art they're alone lol

[urban spire]

wyrdvane is still kinda new to me, can someone dish the tea

[gaunt sable]

'Ah yes. These Battle Psykers aren't fully trained and sanctioned yet.'
Me: '.....Then why on Earth are you putting them in combat scenarios?!'

[arctic talon]

Not fully trained and sanctoned psykers deployed into combat scenarios

they need a group to maintain coherency

which is a choice

and then all their art shows them alone lol

[urban spire]

i thought they were psykers who weren't powerful enough to ordinarily make it through sanctioning, however since there are so many psykers awakening now their standards have been lowered

[arctic talon]

like this one

[gaunt sable]

Sanctioned Psykers that either haven't completed their training to become Primaris Psykers or never will.

[arctic talon]

the only reason Wyrdvane exist is to give guard a cheap non HQ psyker option

imo

[gaunt sable]

Their thrown together into groups and put under a Primary Psyker.

[arctic talon]

they don't even exist anymore on the table lol

[urban spire]

i kind of like the implication of wyrdvanes

[arctic talon]

The idea is cool

execution is meh imo

[urban spire]

humanity is becoming more and more psychically active

[gaunt sable]

If they had gone.
"Sanctioned Psykers who are getting on the job training." That'd have been fine.

[arctic talon]

Yeah the way its written is weird

[gaunt sable]

But it almost feels like Sanctioned Psykers are two tiered.

[arctic talon]

but meh

[normal light]

What is the topic of conversation?

[arctic talon]

There's a lot of variety in sanctioned psykers

[urban spire]

anyway i considered reading witchwhatsit a while ago but the reviews were quite poor

[gaunt sable]

Your either a barely controllable about to turn inside out barely held together Wyrdvane or a Primaris Psyker.

[urban spire]

maybe i shouldn't trust reviews by warhammer fans though

[celest dome]

We do actually have Unsanctionned Psyker miniatures

[gaunt sable]

I'm in a lore collection mood to flesh out some Psyker background stuff for a game.

So decided to give it a read to pick around for ideas.

[arctic talon]

there's a few

[urban spire]

warhammer fans warhammer fans

[arctic talon]

unsanctioned psyker minis

[normal light]

Blackfortress has rogue Psykers

[celest dome]

Mostly Necromunda

[gaunt sable]

Since I said. Unfortunately the amount of books about Sanctioned Psykers that aren't Inquistors or Space Marines are nil.
And other then that we get a bare handful with POV chapters and little else.

[arctic talon]

me when chaos psyker

[urban spire]

necromunda psyker: "no i am definitely sanctioned by the emperor (REAL) who has a completely normal amount of arms"

[gaunt sable]

Suspicious.

[celest dome]

There are non Chaos one on Necromunda

[arctic talon]

yeah

like the spyker

megamind lookin ass

[celest dome]

Psi-Syndica cartel

[urban spire]

that's a completely normal skin colour for humans to have

don't worry about it

[gaunt sable]

My Psyker Character I'm doing for a game inspired by some Darktide headgear. :v

[urban spire]

i love that hat

[gaunt sable]

That hood in Darktide is absolute fuckin fire.

Had to yoink it when it first came out.

[storm jungle]

Darktide psykers legit look like the most queer people in existence.

their legs are literal twigs 💀

[urban spire]

my regular darktide drip

[gaunt sable]

Looks like mine. :v

But I switched to the red jacket.

Also the black slacks with armor bits on them.

[urban spire]

i didn't want to spend the money, plus contrast is kinda nice

[gaunt sable]

Sadly the armor on the thigh clips through the skirt.

[urban spire]

yeah it does

[gaunt sable]

I mean. I also went Blue jacket for a while. :v

But damn color coordination is fun. :v

[urban spire]

i resent the implication that being queer means my legs are small

[storm jungle]

:)

[urban spire]

I HIKE

MY LEGS IS HUGE

i can crush so many watermelons with these things

[gaunt sable]

I've got the legs and thighs of a fuckin stallion. :v

[forest orbit]

Nice bulge.

I mean uh

[gaunt sable]

And I'm gay as fug

[storm jungle]

[urban spire]

fantastic design btw

[gaunt sable]

That bulge has nothing on the one I had to crop out.

Sadly Speedo. :v

If anyone wants to see I can privately share.

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[gaunt sable]

But I ain't getting in trouble. :v

The Psykana Eye/I is in a fun place. :v

[urban spire]

lol

[storm jungle]

lmao god

[gaunt sable]

....Is it I/Eye, Eye/I, Eye-I, I-Eye?

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[urban spire]

ai ai ai

[gaunt sable]

But yeah. If folks wanna see will share privately. XD
But I'm getting more of him......

Especially after the character overhaul dragged me back. XD

[storm jungle]

[gaunt sable]

Also that braid is down to the knee.

[storm jungle]

packing the psyker rizz 👌

[celest dome]

I too am interested in seeing it

[gaunt sable]

Psykers are the queer darktide class.

Since I haven't met a normal LGBT person in my whole gay ass life.

[storm jungle]

It reminds me of that one John Blanche psyker art where the guy is in like full latex gear hold on

[urban spire]

i remember losing my mind when darktide came out and people complained about the characters being ugly

[gaunt sable]

I mean. Look.
If you could float and summon telekinetic shields wouldn't you just zap the enemies of the Emprah in the near buff like some ancient gaulic lunatic? :v

[storm jungle]

YEAH BABY

[urban spire]

people these days have no appreciation for butch faces

[storm jungle]

Also i will agree some are deffo ugly

but some of these faces are OOF

very handsome people

[urban spire]

also

same

[celest dome]

Blanche really make some nice art

[storm jungle]

it helps that most of his art is so BDSM/Fetish-fuel

[gaunt sable]

But yeah. It's wild to me just how much sanctioned psykers line up with LGBT people. Since they are in oft persecuted and misunderstood minority that sympathize strongly with other weirdos, have tragic backstories, trauma, have uncomfortable relations with organized religion and can also summon lightning to zap people.

[urban spire]

the power armour stiletto heels

[storm jungle]

Definitely tbh

[urban spire]

chef kiss

[celest dome]

Right, might help
I do like Femme Fatales, the real ones

[gaunt sable]

....I mean. Wouldn't you?

[urban spire]

fall over? yes, instantly

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[gaunt sable]

Weak.

[urban spire]

i'm built for hiking boots

i need my weak spindly exceptionally thick and strong ankles supported

[gaunt sable]

But yeah over the years I've noticed a lot of weird similarities between the LGBT community and s
psykers. It's become even more obvious.

I mean you could even make an argument that the great psychic Awakening the Imperium is suffering is similar to the rise in self identifying LGBT people.

[storm jungle]

being persecuted by religious people moment

[gaunt sable]

Although I'm very sure that none of this was intentional

[celest dome]

[storm jungle]

Yeah nah it wasnt, but its not really a bad thing

[gaunt sable]

Queer readings/analysis are fun tho.

[storm jungle]

It deffo uh

works more with stuff like vampires for example

psykers tho ye

[celest dome]

Well at least Dilara has seen it

[urban spire]

why do we keep identifying with people in fiction who are dangerous to society? well who knows

[storm jungle]

VERY strange i know

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-sigma-based-im-literally-him-hes-literally-me-gif-25725757

[celest dome]

Honestly I'm somewaht suprised it's a blocked word but at the same time not so much

[urban spire]

huh?

[storm jungle]

wait what is

[celest dome]

Oh you didn't see the blocked message ?

[storm jungle]

wait checked the logs yep

[gaunt sable]

Because we are derogatorily referred to as threats to society over the course of our lives. It's only very recently begun to change but that's slow going and that attitude is still present in mainstream Society.

[celest dome]

It's a really bad take that some people push all the time

[gaunt sable]

It leads to LGBT people 'owning' it.

[urban spire]

well yeah thats

i was attempting to say that with irony

[gaunt sable]

Or sympathizing with characters who are considered " monsters"

[gaunt sable]

Ah. XD
Sorry

[urban spire]

it's fine it's worth stating outright as well

also for a long time the only way gay people could be depicted in movies was as villains

[celest dome]

Somewhat annoyingly, most Lgbt character is see in media (other than books) are often lesbian women, like trans, gay and nonbinary are much rarer I think

[storm jungle]

We only got like one trans character and it was a necron.

[jade holly]

Aren’t technically all Necrons trans being they transitioned from flesh to metal

[celest dome]

Isn't there one Admech one ?

[crisp heath]

We got multiple nb tech priests

[storm jungle]

no 💀

its more that she actively switched genders and went from a patriarch to matriarch due to political reasons

her reasoning was "Yeah I just kinda wanted to do it."

[jade holly]

Was that as simple as a flip of a switch for a Necron or something?

[urban spire]

i like that the ravenor novels offhandedly mention that people can be into people of their own gender or either gender and then proceeds to not make a big deal about it

[crisp heath]

All necrons are trans because it was a matriarchy, all the psychoreactive metal came out flat chested and they couldn't drink the questions away anymore

[urban spire]

i'm not a big fan of queer identity being made into aliens or fantasy races

it's one thing to see yourself in something and claiming it, it's another to be directly made into an analogy

[crisp heath]

In the Gazkhull book there's an ork who used they pronouns and explains how orks aren't actually gendered, they just use "he" because they respect the male humans who do most of the fighting. The inquisitors then make a point of misgendering them but use they for the other orks.

It's terrible but I did laugh

[storm jungle]

god if that was in the actual lore people would go crazy

the amount of homophobic warhammer fans is as massive as it is 💀

[urban spire]

that is almost a little insidious

[storm jungle]

its more just your classic male BL writer being a doofus

[urban spire]

orks are definitely gendered

[crisp heath]

‘Ghazghkull is a he,’ he grumbled, wagging a finger at Biter and receiving an uncertain grunt in reply. ‘You keep saying they,’ Hendriksen clarified, ‘but Ghazghkull is a he.’

‘But… they… he is not a man?’ said Biter, their brow-ridge creased in ¬bafflement. Falx cut in then, before another messy debate could ensue.

‘We’ve been through this, Orm. Orks have no… reproductive anatomy, and consequently no understanding of sex or gender.’

‘Some of us understand sexangender,’ interrupted Biter, keen as ever to demonstrate their unusual expertise in humans. ‘I find it all… quite funny.’

‘Silence, ork,’ Falx snapped, impatient to get back on track. ‘From now on, Ghazghkull is a he, whether it makes sense or not.’```

It is in the lore lmao

[storm jungle]

To the general 40k fans it isnt lmao

how many of them do you think read this stuff

💀

[urban spire]

it's bio essentialism so i'm sure they'd jump on it

[green loom]

Haha slaanesh worshipper haha hahahaha haha

Aren't I funny

[storm jungle]

death

[green loom]

Excuse me as I return to my incredibly muscular manly men who shower together naked

[crisp heath]

Man I love it when giant sweaty man fight heterosexually

[urban spire]

always remember to kiss your battle brothers good-night

anyway the orks were made by a species which may or may not have had a gender binary, but which definitely understood binary gender roles considering they also made the eldar

[crisp heath]

God imagine the gender discourse in Comorragh

[urban spire]

"gender flows from the barrel of a gun"

[crisp heath]

"I am a woman, not because I identify as such, but because I have your family"

[urban spire]

i wonder if ork masculinity was originally healthier before the species was affected by whatever caused them to become uh

football hooligans

[arctic talon]

necrons can change their body as they please if they're of the higher ranks

TLDR yes

Gaunts ghost is 90% burly muscular men beating each other up

[gaunt sable]

Massively so.

Lesbians are considered 'safe' especially if their nonthreatening/cute and it also plays into straight guys fantasies and stuff.

[celest dome]

Yup

[urban spire]

gay men are getting pretty common

[crisp heath]

My favorite genre of TV is the trans episode that is trying to be progressive but the writers have no idea what a trans woman is

[urban spire]

trans woman (played by a cishet woman) moment

[crisp heath]

Danish Girl be like trans woman (played by a cishet man)

[celest dome]

Gay men usualy end up being the stereotipical role of gay men.
Being the friend of the female character who is gay, but never is shown dating someone

[gaunt sable]

I've been an arguments. I remember expressing exasperation over the lack of LGBT characters only to be met with. "But romance shouldn't exist in the grimdark future. So why should the gays be mentioned."

I had to take a few minutes to pick my jaw from up off the floor and reattach it.

[celest dome]

Romance should be part of 40k

Like it is in fantasy

No reason why

Love

can't

bloom

[cerulean wagon]

shut

gonna mute cacti

[crisp heath]

No, why are you thinking of women, you should be thinking of war

[green loom]

Oh I thought Skeleton was talking to me

[celest dome]

Do it fast of Dilara will beat you to it

[viral halo]

I was told at a young age that this was a pre requisite for the hobby

[storm jungle]

Its funny because theres a ton of queer characters in 40k but its always side or background characters because most of these authors are just straight white guys trying to be inclusive but not super managing it

[cerulean wagon]

these people would HATE the cain books

[green loom]

"I'm not homophobic! I just don't want them anywhere around me and hate them!"

[crisp heath]

Magot is the greatest guardswoman to ever exist

She the manic pixie blood knight of my dreams

[green loom]

Hey we may finally get Celefax fully confirmed before long so maybe not for lony

[viral halo]

Average warhammer fan

[cerulean wagon]

been a while since i read em, which one is the one with the cybernetic lung?

[gaunt sable]

perks up
Hmmm?

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[green loom]

Remember that time someone threw a fit because the one char in like, Priests of Mars had neopronouns

[storm jungle]

dude

[green loom]

Hold on

[viral halo]

Like what the fuck

[storm jungle]

you remember when people lost their shit because there was a black ultramarine on the cover of Avenging Son 💀

Wokehammer??????

[viral halo]

Bro /tg had a melt DOWN

[green loom]

https://reddit.com/r/40kLore/s/YAjeAQkKnC

[storm jungle]

LEGIT

[crisp heath]

Secutor Mitranda be like "haha they/them go 1010111001"

[green loom]

Communal shower hours

[viral halo]

Bro you don’t follow wokehammer L’s on twitter?!

💀

[storm jungle]

💀

[green loom]

No I follow one of his akta

*alts

Probably

[viral halo]

The /tg meltdown over dawn of fire was legendary

[crisp heath]

Anyway there is no heterosexual explanation for anything the Emperor did sorry

[green loom]

It's a very nice way of finding who to block

[viral halo]

I will say that board is half racist schizos but there was one time on tg that there was an IF vs IW thread abs by the end of it I was crying laughing

I’ve seen less visceral hate in real life then in the 4chan IRon warriors versus imperial fists debate

I was genuinely crying laughing at how fucking stupid these man babies were

[dry epoch]

Reminds me of the time I was accused of using 'Valkia the Bloody' as a vehicle to push my raging feminist agenda.

[viral halo]

What the fuck 😭😭

[green loom]

Many such cases

"Woman?!?! WOKE"

[dry epoch]

Exactly that.

[viral halo]

Dudes hate gay folks but only want hulking white men as their characters

[arctic talon]

💀

[viral halo]

Bro some mfs saw that dawn of fire cover w the black marine in Barnes and noble and fell to their knees

Fucking insane

[gaunt sable]

It already is. Most of the better 40K novels will have at least a little bit of romance in it. Or Romantic tension.

[arctic talon]

Incredible

[viral halo]

I want James workshop to go full bore and release a book that’s got a possessed space marine slam fucking the reader and breaking the fourth wall

[gaunt sable]

The ones that don't are basically just the really crappy bolter Porn that exists to sell the latest miniature crack GeeDubs is trying to hawk

[arctic talon]

People complaining about snowflakes breaking down the moment a marine has higher levels of melanin

[viral halo]

Holy shit @dry epoch @storm jungle I’ve got a story for you gimme five seconds to type on my PC

[dry epoch]

Is proud that I included some subtle romantic tensions in at least one 40k book

[green loom]

Relevant

[arctic talon]

https://destiny.wiki.gallery/images/f/ff/Taniks.gif

[viral halo]

Im on my PC listen to this shit lmfao

Im at barnes and noble w my gf

[arctic talon]

Oh no

[viral halo]

and Im looking at the warhammer section ofc

Im sitting there just flipping through the books they have, tryna pick some shit up for my office. This fucking JACKED middle aged asian dude who is absolutely dripped the fuck out in blood red jordans and a gucci polo comes up to me UNPROMPTED and goes "you a big warhammer guy? I cant stand the wokehammer crowd coming and plaguing our hobby"

he proceeds to RANT to me UNINTERRUPTED for 5 FUCKING minutes about WOKEHAMMER

[arctic talon]

💀

Bro what the fuck

[dry epoch]

oO

[rose thorn]

[viral halo]

He goes "you seen all the women theyre shoehorning into the wokehammer plus stuff?"

[storm jungle]

bruh

[viral halo]

And I go "like sisters of battle?" and he was like "fuck them"

I was fucking BEWILDERED

[rose thorn]

i hate how much ive seen nazi themed stuff on warhamemr reddit

[arctic talon]

First mistake

[dry epoch]

I have been deaing with this since I started writing for BL (with the terrifying honour of being their first female novel writer and all the baggage that came with that).

[arctic talon]

Warhammer Reddit

[rose thorn]

yea

[viral halo]

I have 0 idea what gave this guy the impression it would be okay to say shit to me

Other than I am a in shape white dude

[arctic talon]

Maybe you fit into generic warhammer fan stereotype?

Oh

[green loom]

You'd think if they hate women this much they'd at least be gay

[arctic talon]

There it is