Slaaneshis have the "amazing" Fabius Bile too
#40k-lore-chat
little falcon
jade holly
Mr Let me hold this haunted demon sword cause I’m the only one who has a strong enough will to resist it
dire thunder
God I don’t know why people would rather take Fulgrim over Angron
He’s so cucked at least Angron has something to actually be mad about
crisp heath
How is Fulgrim the worst primarch when Angron is literally right there
green loom
Mr Let me hold this haunted demon sword cause I’m the only one who has a strong ...
Many such cases
See: Logan Grimnar
gloomy citrus
God I don’t know why people would rather take Fulgrim over Angron
Angron will just kill you and move on. Fulgrim, on the other hand...
green loom
Idk arguing about which primarch is the best is like arguing which MCU character is the best
Take that to r/40klore, it's all they talk about anyway
crisp heath
There is no "right" primarch, just varying degrees of wrong primarch
little falcon
The only sure thing is Magnus did nothing wrong
jade holly
They all have their benefits and drawbacks
green loom
Mostly drawbacks
median marsh
Vulcan reminding Konrad that his hammer also functions as a hammer was comedy gold
dire thunder
Fulgrim would lose and go have a sad touchy feely party lol
jade holly
Fulgrim would lose and go have a sad touchy feely party lol
Quite literally
Especially now that he’s part of Slaanesh’s crew
median marsh
explode another virus bomb in his face, i allow it
dire thunder
That’s all he’s been doing for however long
jade holly
explode another virus bomb in his face, i allow it
Based Rylanor
dire thunder
Idc anything about Fulgrim he’s so lame
jade holly
Fulgrim been hosting pity parties 24/7 even before the Heresy
green loom
Idk I liked Fulgrim
dire thunder
Idk I liked Fulgrim
How
spare osprey
There is no "right" primarch, just varying degrees of wrong primarch
nah i'm sure #2 was fine
dire thunder
Even his design is bad
jade holly
Makes you wonder how tf Fulgrim killed Ferrus
green loom
That's subjective at best
dire thunder
The only good thing he has rn is the colors
spare osprey
Even his design is bad
not at all
jade holly
nah i'm sure #2 was fine
Nah #11 was where it was at
crisp heath
I want Fulgrim (snakified) to grab me by the ankle and thrash me violently into a marble pillar
little falcon
Fulgrim parties < Drukhari parties
green loom
And I'd advise you to steer clear of fitting too well into the "Guy named Kharn" stereotype
median marsh
Fulgrim became the first monster girl
dire thunder
And I'd advise you to steer clear of fitting too well into the "Guy named Kharn"...
Why
crisp heath
Curze was the first monster girl primarch
jade holly
Magnus become a less cool General Radahn
jade holly
Leman fucked off to party hardy
spare osprey
i think all the primarchs look fine. same as the legions. aesthetics are just liked by different peeps
green loom
Macho and annoying
crisp heath
Which primarch is Vriska
green loom
It's not fun for anyone
dire thunder
Macho and annoying
Damn looks like I’m Macho and Annoying
jade holly
So are Wolrd Eaters red or white and blue?
dire thunder
I’m a certified Kharn fanboy
dire thunder
His Audio Books are so incredibly good
spare osprey
So are Wolrd Eaters red or white and blue?
it's 2 differing schemes for the same army
dire thunder
Chosen of Khorn is one of the absolute best Audio Books ever
jade holly
That won’t be confusing at all
jade holly
I like how no one even mentions Jataghi Kahn
next garden
There is no "right" primarch, just varying degrees of wrong primarch
Counterpoint, Sanguinius.
jade holly
Cause he seems like he doesn’t do anything
dire thunder
I like how no one even mentions Jataghi Kahn
Underrated tbh
green loom
Ideally I wouldn't mention any primarchs because they're all annoying and stupdi
dire thunder
Cause he seems like he doesn’t do anything
Because he never sold
spare osprey
That won’t be confusing at all
and you had the warhound colors before that
green loom
And it always boils down to MCU arguments
dire thunder
And it always boils down to MCU arguments
What
spare osprey
and you had the warhound colors before that
many legions had a large difference of colors in their history
except like
jade holly
Ideally I wouldn't mention any primarchs because they're all annoying and stupdi
I just like Primarchs cause I like mythology and they’re basically just deities to their Space Marine angels
green loom
I just like Primarchs cause I like mythology and they’re basically just deities ...
no, they're shitty action heroes and are very boring to talk about constantly because they're rarely consistent
jade holly
no, they're shitty action heroes and are very boring to talk about constantly be...
I mean that’s also true
but it doesn’t negate the first thing
dire thunder
Sanguinius is actually the best Primarch and blood angels are the best loyalist
jade holly
Weird way to spell Imperial Fist
dire thunder
Weird way to spell Imperial Fist
Fist yourself
green loom
Christ here it goes again
dire thunder
i don't think there's a definitive best
Yea whatever
jade holly
As long as we agree Orks have the best Waaagh
spare osprey
i'm willing to be the fence sitter at all times
dire thunder
As long as we agree Orks have the best Waaagh
True
jade holly
let’s just forget about War of the Beast tho
next garden
Just pick a faction whos lore and aesthetic you like.
median marsh
next garden
Easy
green loom
Abaddon has the right of it, kill all primarchs
dire thunder
I wish there was a Horror book about a Blood Angel absolutely going apeshit on a heretic ship
green loom
They all kill aliens
dire thunder
Vulkan is clearly the best because he kills Xeno children
Vulcan is evaporated rn
next garden
Abaddon has the right of it, kill all primarchs
I like ultradepression Guilliman. Even if I think brining primarchs back is bad for 40k.
green loom
I prefer Cato and Calgar
spare osprey
idk if it's that bad for 40k
just don't bring all of them back
that's the bad stuff
next garden
Cato has gotten better but he fucking sucked for a while.
jade holly
How many chaos are still alive?
next garden
Calgar should have died at vigilus
dire thunder
Nah bringing the Lion back was a gigachad choice
median marsh
Guiliman took one look at modern imperium and immediately fell catatonic
spare osprey
How many chaos are still alive?
7 ish
green loom
Calgar should have died at vigilus
Him surviving was defo a plot moment but we got a nice comic out of it so it's fine
jade holly
Wait when did Lion come back? As in what year (our year) was he brought back in lore
spare osprey
Wait when did Lion come back? As in what year (our year) was he brought back in ...
this year
dire thunder
5 months ago
spare osprey
very recent thing
jade holly
Oh still fairly fresh
crisp heath
I would like to have Curze come back, but only if it's very briefly, for like one novel, and he has a complete breakdown and flies into the sun to return his character arc to "resolved" status
spare osprey
yes
hushed prawn
Grimdark was cool when real life was good. The world is going to shit, so redemption and hope are in
median marsh
he had his beauty sleep
next garden
Him surviving was defo a plot moment but we got a nice comic out of it so it's f...
He serves no purpose right now with Guilliman back. And it would have shown that even with primaris Chaos still got hands.
spare osprey
his book was fantastic tho
dire thunder
He’s leading the Blood Angels rn
spare osprey
welp better start killing Chaos Primarchs to even it out
tbf he did
next garden
Unlike Calgar, who lost his.
green loom
He serves no purpose right now with Guilliman back. And it would have shown that...
He's Nihilus batman
jade holly
Then how about we kill Fulgrim
dire thunder
He serves no purpose right now with Guilliman back. And it would have shown that...
Nah he’s about to do a fuckload of horrific things to Chaos
jade holly
And if he’s dead how about we kill his corpse
median marsh
im not sure you can kill off a Daemon Primarch without repeating what Emps did to horus
next garden
He's Nihilus batman
Calgar?
green loom
Lion
spare osprey
Then how about we kill Fulgrim
same situation i'm afraid
next garden
Yeah Lion is back
spare osprey
they just come back
green loom
He's straight up called the Knight of Nihilus lol
next garden
I was talking about Calgar serving no purpose
green loom
Just teleports around killing things
next garden
Lion is a G
spare osprey
He's straight up called the Knight of Nihilus lol
the Flawed Knight aswell
green loom
I mean Calgar still has a purpose
dire thunder
Lion is a G
I don’t think anyone can hate the lion
green loom
He's the UM head honcho
spare osprey
they pulled a lot of Arthurian references in his book
dire thunder
But he has a purpose above ruling Ultramar
This
next garden
Old Lion yelling at a chaos space marine "what sorcery is this that I'm slow" and the dude was like "you're just old"
median marsh
Calgar still has Guilimans powerfists right
green loom
they pulled a lot of Arthurian references in his book
"references"
more like straight transcripts lmao
next garden
Calgar still has Guilimans powerfists right
No
spare osprey
Old Lion yelling at a chaos space marine "what sorcery is this that I'm slow" an...
whole book is great
spare osprey
"references"
more like straight transcripts lmao
was about to say
green loom
The entire Risen cast is just Arthurian names
Half of them reenact literal arthurian tales
spare osprey
they up and have the moment where the green knight is beheaded
next garden
whole book is great
I need more books with the Risen. They all had so much more personality than 99% of other non White Scars marines.
spare osprey
and you have the emps as the fisher king
spare osprey
I need more books with the Risen. They all had so much more personality than 99%...
oh dude
dire thunder
I need more books with the Risen. They all had so much more personality than 99%...
White Scars don’t sell
spare osprey
the risen made the book for me
dire thunder
We need a book dedicated to FUCKING TYBEROS
next garden
White Scars don’t sell
The white scars HH books made them a lot more popular.
spare osprey
the risen made the book for me
They were so fantastically written
green loom
Tyberos would be boring as sin
It'd be like an Iron Snakes book but without Abnett to save it
dire thunder
Tyberos would be boring as sin
Do you think Kharn is boring
green loom
Do you think Kharn is boring
He is now
dire thunder
Because Tyberos is just Loyalist Kharn on lots of crack
next garden
Tyberos the Red Wake?
dire thunder
Yea
green loom
I'd say you were wrong but I don't think there's enough written Material on Tyberos to conclude anything beyond "he's a dick and quiet"
dire thunder
I'd say you were wrong but I don't think there's enough written Material on Tybe...
Exactly why we need a Space Sharks book
dire thunder
Space Sharks don't sell
True 
green loom
Kriegers do apparently
next garden
Even when the skins are bad. 
dire thunder
Yea they had that one book where 8 million of them died in one fight
green loom
Skins look fine
dire thunder
I agree
green loom
I love the preacher/psyker one
median marsh
dire thunder
Gabriel Seth is more Kharn imo
Gabriel is Blood Angels right
dire thunder
Whose the other one
I haven’t brushed up on lore for the Blood Angels and successor chapters
jade holly
Did the Lion come out of the Astronomicon (is that what the gps North Star is called?) when he returned?
storm jungle
No he was asleep under The Rock 
the fleet/homeworld (or a chunk of it) of the Dark Angels
we don't have the full details yet
storm jungle
spare osprey
Did the Lion come out of the Astronomicon (is that what the gps North Star is ca...
nope
he woke up in a forest
walked
and was back
jade holly
For the joke, there is a Sabaton song called “Lion From the North”
spare osprey
if you will
jade holly
About a Swedish Captain or something
normal light
have you been using lexi at all
Lexi
jade holly
Yes
normal light
Mostly
storm jungle
Good
jade holly
I am still trying to find what I want to focus on
jade holly
Way ahead of you
storm jungle
if you go random topic to random topic you will be extremely lost
jade holly
Just trying to figure out which faction to focus on first
spare osprey
i almost went salamanders when i was starting out
normal light
Reading Chaos Lore
jade holly
Between Imperial Fist, Death Guard and Salamanders
spare osprey
i almost went salamanders when i was starting out
weird time
normal light
Reading Chaos Lore <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
A lot of daddy issues
storm jungle
Between Imperial Fist, Death Guard and Salamanders
I suggest again nailing it down
I'd say look into Sallies and Death Guard first
Fist look good on surface but are extremely generic
jade holly
Death Guard for sure is turning out to be the one I want to go into fully
normal light
A lot of daddy issues
That’s why I align with Traitor Guard MORE
storm jungle
Death Guard for sure is turning out to be the one I want to go into fully
Again big recommend
very cheap book too
spare osprey
listened to an audio drama with a death guard marine a bit ago
really good stuff
dude was very happy
normal light
https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/novels/ebook-the-lords-of-silence.h...
Are there any Traitor Guard books?
spare osprey
dude was very happy
yeah here we go
storm jungle
thats the one
storm jungle
Are there any Traitor Guard books?
Significant parts of Traitor General in the Gaunt's Ghosts series are from the perspective of an Etogaur in the nascent Sons of Sek.
otherwise not much, traitor guard are not a major faction so they dont get central role books
green loom
I wish I could sleep for ten thousand years
storm jungle
same
normal light
I wish I could sleep for ten thousand years
Dreadnought moment
green loom
I need to compile who each of the operatives on the mourningstar are
This is Molsk I think
Should I take this to #darktide-pics-vids
next garden
https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/novels/ebook-the-lords-of-silence.h...
Love that book
storm jungle
its pretty great
storm jungle
I need to compile who each of the operatives on the mourningstar are
Lmao I always told myself id do something like that to just for the meme of it
green loom
I've gathered most of them
Save the ones without voicelines like the guy left of Molsk at the entrance
At least I haven't heard them
Soltag and Morti are the one next to Brunt
Lensk and Prask/Prall are the ones in the Psykhanium
One next to the Commissary is Drall
storm jungle
Man I gotta take notes
green loom
The two guys the mission terminal are Adepts Lang/Leng and Stane I think
Forget the first guy since he didn't trigger
And then the ones I posted
There's a female guard infront of the mission terminal that I forget the name of and another overseer like Nessian
Does Darktide have a wiki? Could make a thing for it
green loom
Think I'll just compile them in a few days and throw down a megapost here or something
"A guide to your buddies" or something
storm jungle
honestly if you do it in a humorous "Hey guys I got bored and made this" way it would be pretty good lol
green loom
Frankly I'd do it rn but I leave in 8 hours and have paperwork to do so my spine feels like it's vacating my body 
But I'll defo make one since there's not too much to do
storm jungle
get some rest buddy 
green loom
Rest is forbidden, I'm like an administratum scribe on one of those new logistics hubs Bobby made
near wasp
@green loom being assigned to those places is a fate worse than death
green loom
I'll take it!
dire thunder
Is Ghaz alive
green loom
Yeah
dire thunder
Or like how will the orcs bring him back just WAAAAAAAH
green loom
Got his head chopped off, then got better
green loom
And bigger
dire thunder
Man I love Ghaz
green loom
Thank orkimedes
He stitched his head on a new massive body
After Ragnar beheaded him
dire thunder
I really wanna see Ragnaork
I’d say Orkz are the only faction in 40k you can’t really hate
Besides being turbo British
dry ridge
has anyone noticed this creepy voice in the distance while playing? sometimes it says like; “now my little one…”, i play on psyker lately, not sure if its voices in the psykers head or not
green loom
are you playing the one that shouts about a beloved
dry ridge
dunno, but my brother doesnt hear it (zealot/veteran) and he thinks ive lost my mind
someone in psyker chat said it appears while quelling?
dire thunder
Yea
green loom
You're playing a psyker
dire thunder
It’s like inner crazy dialogue
green loom
Insanity, paranoia and paranormal bullshit are status quo
green loom
Well some aren't but it's generally not a good trip for the brain
dire thunder
You try looking into the eye of terror
green loom
And seeing as of the 3 psyker personalities
One is an ostracized pariah who hid away and the other is straight up insane and talking to voice in it's head
dry ridge
thats really interesting, just leveled my psyker to 30 starting 2 weeks ago and i always heard these weird voice lines in the far distance like someone was watching me
dire thunder
thats really interesting, just leveled my psyker to 30 starting 2 weeks ago and ...
Yea it’s just the voices of Chaos trying to snatch your soul nothing big
green loom
The Enforcer personalities are the only "sane" ones, but they're brainwashed imperials
So it's arguable
dire thunder
Tbh I’d rather be that than a normal Psyker
dry ridge
i kept going every match for 2 weeks like; yo dont you hear that voice in the distance?
dire thunder
i kept going every match for 2 weeks like; yo dont you hear that voice in the di...
You’re just becoming a Psyker
dry ridge
thats exactly the voice my psyker uses
green loom
Send this to them
dry ridge
i shall add the voices to cc:
keen stratus
get some rest buddy <:Pepega:612363211068538924>
Oh shit, thats a sexy pfp you got there
arctic talon
jade holly
How good is the Mortarion: The Pale King story?
arctic talon
It’s fine from what I’ve heard
arctic talon
Bruh why tf is Lords of Silence $99 paperback on Amazon
Scalped to hell
jade holly
Meanwhile Mortarion The Pale King is only $19 Hardback
arctic talon
Mortarion the pale king is more recent and got a bigger print
Lords of silence I wish would get a reprint
crisp heath
Are custodes miserable?
arctic talon
Are custodes miserable?
Not really, they’re mostly content with their life
crisp heath
I assume they are a little happier now that they get to do things again but sitting on guard watching the empire they believed in fall to ruin would make me sad
jade holly
Problem is I never do audio books nor do I even know if I have an app for them
crisp heath
I thought they mourned what it had become since it wasn’t emperoers vision
crisp heath
Oh
jade holly
I’m watching a video that’s a 4 way battle of Death Guard and World Eaters(?), Vs Dark Angels and Ultramarines
jade holly
That’s a little boring, figured the emperors companions would be more emotive
If you want emotion then look at World Eaters
Those bois
Be
ANGRY
arctic talon
That’s a little boring, figured the emperors companions would be more emotive
They’re decently emotive, more then the average marine
arctic talon
The only real people custodes have normal conversations with are other custodes
Or sisters of silence
jade holly
The only real people custodes have normal conversations with are other custodes
What about Sisters of Silence
arctic talon
They never had a chance at any point
They did before they found angron
💀
That was the beginning of the end
crisp heath
We’re they called that before they met angron?
green loom
One talks with Greyfax fairly normally
green loom
We’re they called that before they met angron?
War Hounds iirc
crisp heath
Like did the emperor name them or the primarchs
arctic talon
We’re they called that before they met angron?
War hounds
crisp heath
Gotcha
jade holly
How do Legions get their names?
arctic talon
Primarch names them
crisp heath
Yeah I’m wondering that too
jade holly
Besides primarchs renaming them
arctic talon
They had one based on how they fought usually
green loom
The early legions were named after stuff they did mostly
arctic talon
Or they got one as a “joke”
crisp heath
What were the word bearers original name?
arctic talon
Like the thousand sons being called that because they were founded
jade holly
They had one based on how they fought usually
Or based on an event or part of their Primarch?
green loom
Death Guard were Dusk Raiders, cus they attacked at Dusk
arctic talon
With 1000 marines
jade holly
Like White Scars
arctic talon
What were the word bearers original name?
Imperial heralds
green loom
What were the word bearers original name?
Imperial Heralds iirc
crisp heath
Fitting
arctic talon
Ultramarines were called the war born
crisp heath
Cringe
arctic talon
Dark angels were just called “the first”
jade holly
Death Guard were called Duskraiders
green loom
BA were the Revenant legion
crisp heath
Not awful
jade holly
Or something like that
arctic talon
Revenant legion as a name was mostly due to how many times they should have died
crisp heath
How about the space wolves
arctic talon
But just didn’t lol
arctic talon
How about the space wolves
Don’t have a known one iirc
crisp heath
Interesting
jade holly
Theoretically every Primarch would be the same age wouldn’t they?
arctic talon
Yeah
crisp heath
Perty is older I think
arctic talon
Space wolves got a name
crisp heath
Cause of time shit
jade holly
Why tf does The Lion look so damn old compared to them all
arctic talon
It’s just “the rout”
arctic talon
Why tf does The Lion look so damn old compared to them all
Nowadays? Because he wasn’t in stasis
Back then idk
crisp heath
Why tf does The Lion look so damn old compared to them all
He went to the rock that makes you old
jade holly
I wonder how Leman would look if he escaped the Warp
he is trapped in there right?
Or at the least went in there and never came out?
green loom
He's still out there
arctic talon
Lemans status is unknown
green loom
As of Warzone Fenris
arctic talon
He went into the eye of terror
green loom
Iirc
arctic talon
No one has heard of him since
crisp heath
Or he comes back, gives mortarian a swirly and saves the eldar god
jade holly
Prob rolling with the bois
crisp heath
Do primarchs need to eat and sleep?
jade holly
Prob not
crisp heath
Or is he just eternally running through the place at sonic speed
arctic talon
Do primarchs need to eat and sleep?
They sorta need sleep
jade holly
I know Leman eats and drink
arctic talon
They def need food
jade holly
Based on some challenges he did with The Emperor
And the Emp got so damn petty over it
crisp heath
Is it true that the wolf is smarter then he lets on?
jade holly
Idfk
arctic talon
Is it true that the wolf is smarter then he lets on?
Lemen is decently smart
He’s just very brash
And loud
crisp heath
He just like me
arctic talon
He plays up his stupidity
green loom
Smart in that he's smart enough to know he's an ass, and chooses to be such
spare osprey
Is it true that the wolf is smarter then he lets on?
yes
arctic talon
But he’s def not the most idiotic primarch
jade holly
Doubt he’s as smart as say, Rogal, Robin Guile, or Perty
crisp heath
He plays up his stupidity
Yeah I heard something like that
spare osprey
there are many moments when he understands he fucked around a bit too much
arctic talon
Yeah he’s no tactical genius
crisp heath
I like that
arctic talon
But he’s smart enough to understand the situation at hand properly
jade holly
Dumbest would prob be Angron
crisp heath
Playing the brute so people underestimate you is a cool trait
jade holly
For
spare osprey
there are many moments when he understands he fucked around a bit too much
like that time he blew up a hostile ship while it was being boarded by some of Lion's sons
jade holly
He’s the most devout
I wouldn’t say that translates to high intellect
Tho I doubt he’s dumb
Just not a genius
jade holly
I mean then again he was the architect of the whole damn Heresy
crisp heath
The Bible is the oldest history text ignoring the religious aspect
Why do so many people clown o. the tau
I imagine his deep study of religion would give some insights
arctic talon
Why do so many people clown o. the tau
They’re smol
jade holly
The Bible is the oldest history text ignoring the religious aspect
Judaism and Islam were around lounger than it
arctic talon
Like
storm jungle
Why do so many people clown o. the tau
Imperial fanboys dont like anything that isnt a gothic junkyard explosion
jade holly
I say this as a Christian
arctic talon
They’re a tiny faction
jade holly
Oldest I’m pretty sure is Hinduism
crisp heath
Imperial fanboys dont like anything that isnt a gothic junkyard explosion
Makes sense
You get what I’m saying though yeah
crisp heath
There probably my favorite faction
jade holly
Imperial fanboys dont like anything that isnt a gothic junkyard explosion
I just think their tech looks a bit too out of place
storm jungle
Makes sense
Yeah dont let the memes/fans tell you anything, they are a cool faction. For example they aren't for me but i dont shit on people for it
jade holly
Too smooth and clean
storm jungle
I just think their tech looks a bit too out of place
yeah because they are advanced
thats the point
arctic talon
Their tech looks in place within the context of their faction and place in the universe
crisp heath
Tau have weird fans
crisp heath
I don’t like how they talk about the tau
arctic talon
Their tech is designed entirely from a technological standpoint
crisp heath
Or tau women
jade holly
I love me some gothic holy designs, but I will admit some people go overboard
crisp heath
Very weird
storm jungle
also again
the imperium isnt the center of aesthetic for the setting
theres a lot of non-gothic shit in 40k
crisp heath
Orcs are
jade holly
Look at Orks
crisp heath
Lessss gooo
jade holly
They’re mad Max
storm jungle
for example, Grimm do you know of House Van Saar
arctic talon
Eldar
jade holly
for example, Grimm do you know of House Van Saar
Sounds Eldar, is it regal, elegant detailing?
storm jungle
jade holly
What the fuck is that
crisp heath
Damn
storm jungle
no its an underhive gang on the planet of Necromunda
jade holly
storm jungle
crisp heath
Aren’t space dwarves a thing now?
storm jungle
they always were
arctic talon
They always were
crisp heath
Lol
storm jungle
lmao
arctic talon
They just became a tabletop faction again
jade holly
Dwarves are always based
Especially the Dwemer
even those are actually elves but that’s beside the point
jade holly
Does Death Guard have their own Titan?
crisp heath
In a game there is
arctic talon
But titans are seperate from marines
crisp heath
Oh then no
arctic talon
They have their own organizations
storm jungle
yes
crisp heath
I imagine size
crisp heath
Less go
jade holly
Ok then
storm jungle
Knights are also driven by nobility of knight Houses
titans are more about specific princeps loyal to forgeworlds etc etc
might need to read the lexi for that one 💀
crisp heath
Do tyranids adapt to necron weapons?
jade holly
Prob not considering they aren’t able to find genes that are resilient to them
arctic talon
Do tyranids adapt to necron weapons?
Not really
jade holly
That’s my guess at least
crisp heath
Sick
arctic talon
You can’t adapt to getting molecularly deconstructed
jade holly
Necrons are cool
crisp heath
Kick their ass skeleton man
storm jungle
You can’t adapt to getting molecularly deconstructed
^
jade holly
And also funny
arctic talon
Or having your nervous system turned to ash
spare osprey
You can’t adapt to getting molecularly deconstructed
jade holly
Just a bunch of grumpy old robots who want to be left alone
crisp heath
Can inperium use necron weapons? Or is that heretical?
spare osprey
i thought it's like
jade holly
Can inperium use necron weapons? Or is that heretical?
VERY
crisp heath
I know they won’t get them easy
arctic talon
Can inperium use necron weapons? Or is that heretical?
Heretical
spare osprey
i thought it's like
super excruciating
jade holly
If it ain’t made by humanity it’s Heretical
storm jungle
Only Deathwatch does and its only for like melee weapons
spare osprey
Can inperium use necron weapons? Or is that heretical?
yeah i mean deathwatch have a few
arctic talon
super excruciating
Destroyer weapons yes
storm jungle
necron tech is so advanced that its basically magic to us
arctic talon
But normal necron guns no
Gauss rifles are pretty painless
It’ll hurt for a bit and then nothing
jade holly
Not to mention Necrons have enslaved GODS
storm jungle
Grimm, do you know of the Celestial Orrery
arctic talon
Synaptic disintegrators you won’t have a nervous system or brain
storm jungle
arctic talon
To hurt lol
storm jungle
Yeah but the necrons managing it are thankfully sane
and also defend it from necrons that wanna go full Death Note protag and poke everything on it
jade holly
I doubt they’d wanna genocide the universe they live in
spare osprey
yeah i mean deathwatch have a few
and cypher has one and he's super imperial
spare osprey
and cypher has one and he's super imperial
yeah here we go
arctic talon
WHO TF IS THIS ABOSLUTE UNIT?
Typhus
spare osprey
he's a bitch
super bitch
storm jungle
WHO TF IS THIS ABOSLUTE UNIT?
he also has a massive infectious plague bug hive on his back lol
spare osprey
and alongside erebus damned Luther. hate em both
jade holly
he also has a massive infectious plague bug hive on his back lol
And based on what I read… his armor is his flesh now?
spare osprey
yeah tbf you can't really take most of the death guard out of their armor
jade holly
Oh that’s cool he and Mortarion have a sort of begrudging agreement with one another
spare osprey
but not every CSM has a melted ass
storm jungle
Typhus is the guy who doomed the Death Guard to fall to Nurgle
he did a uhhhh
a LITTLE bit of trolling
spare osprey
used to be known as Typhon
jade holly
Papa Nurgle is a welcoming man
jade holly
used to be known as Typhon
Calas Typhon
spare osprey
in the 30k plotline atm he's attacking the hollow mountain
storm jungle
used to be known as Typhon
This is also entirely because the HH writers were like
"Yeah we cant have a guy named after an actual disease when he was a marine lets just name him Typhon for the first half."
jade holly
I hate myself
spare osprey
This is also entirely because the HH writers were like
"Yeah we cant have a guy...
don't forget the tank either
jade holly
I mean, especially if you know who Typhon was in mythology
The bane of Olympus
The beast who made the Olympians flee Greece
storm jungle
I mean
its more that uh
GW literally opens a list of greek monster/myth names
and puts them into everything
you really should see the HH marine vehicle/weapons name list
storm jungle
Hes a lil wizard
jade holly
Damn
Chaos is getting mopped in this battle
Imperium is at 26 and Chaos is at 19
Hang on
spare osprey
Imperium is at 26 and Chaos is at 19
jade holly
It’s now 30-19
I have no idea how this game is played
I see round 3 30-23 and each team has 4 “command points”
spare osprey
yeah
jade holly
I think in terms of battles, units are only allowed to hit on certain number rolls?
spare osprey
i need to learn
been in the hobby for like 5 years and still know jackshit of how to play
i just enjoy fallen
vast heart
Typhus is the guy who doomed the Death Guard to fall to Nurgle
Fulgrim is the only daemon primarch who wasn't directly cocked and balled by their first captain right?
storm jungle
Yep
Fulgrim basically doomed his legion by himself by getting the Laer sword
thats more or less the pinpoint position in where it all starts
jade holly
You know this story and the Isstvan III Atrocity is making me wonder
What was the first shot of the Horus Heresy
What battle or event caused the war to begin?
vast heart
Would've been the Nurglite blade nearly killing Horus I think, there wasn't even really a heresy until that point iirc
storm jungle
^
Horus' fall is instant after that point as his mind gets corrupted and he heel-turns into a supervillain
vast heart
I realized the other day
Lorgar won
Like outright Lorgar is the only primarch who actually got what they wanted out of life
storm jungle
theres a book scene where some Word Bearers outright say this too btw
vast heart
idk I just find that funny the simpering little chaos bitch is the only person having a good time in 40k its just so appropriate
jade holly
Gods to worship?
vast heart
theres a book scene where some Word Bearers outright say this too btw
I need to look into word bearers, they're the only legion other than Raven guard I just don't know shit about aside ravenguard who I'm decently sure just don't have lore
storm jungle
Word Bearers are absolutely amazing
storm jungle
people shit on them for memes but they are just mad that the WB dont deny what they are and are just pure evil for the sake of being pure evil and worshipping chaos and you gotta respect them for it lol
jade holly
So would you say Lorgar is the most irredeemable Primarch? Or would that be Fulgrim
crisp heath
Chaos Warriors in space
vast heart
Gods to worship?
Yeah basically, he got gods, I think he's technically the strongest primarch now that he's essentially a chaos undivided daemon primarch drawing on all 4 and he got to kill his abusive dad in revenge for humiliating him
vast heart
So would you say Lorgar is the most irredeemable Primarch? Or would that be Fulg...
Mortarian imo he's just a broody bitch at all times it's hard to like him even as someone who simps hard over daemons and primarchs in general
jade holly
Well tbf he got yoinked into being a literal toxic gasbag against his own will
vast heart
I mean true, I suppose that wasn't his fault
jade holly
if I were in his position I’d be miffed too
next garden
WHO TF IS THIS ABOSLUTE UNIT?
Typhus, mortal herald of Nurgle
jade holly
Typhus, mortal herald of Nurgle
Yeah I’m reading up on him now
next garden
And a fucking asshole
vast heart
Tbf I unironically think Magnus did nothing wrong so I may just be biased
next garden
Just the worst
jade holly
Dude’s honestly pretty damn cool
next garden
No he sucks
next garden
Fair
vast heart
I also like perturabo and fulgrim and find Vulkan and Guilleman boring as sin I think I might just be a primarch hipster
next garden
I love Perturabo, he's such a petulant manchild.
next garden
he doesn't have one
jade holly
next garden
Thats fan art
jade holly
Could’ve sword he did?
next garden
Nah
jade holly
Like a whole story for it too
next garden
Nah
spare osprey
people shit on them for memes but they are just mad that the WB dont deny what t...
tbf
jade holly
Still looked cool
vast heart
People like to shit on Perty but he's one of the only 'human' Primarchs that feels like a character and not a plot device
next garden
Honestly depends on who's writing him but yeah
spare osprey
tbf
i have seen some WB try and push themselves as sorta messiahs and the only hope for humanity
next garden
He could have been one of the best if he wasn't so....himself.
jade holly
i have seen some WB try and push themselves as sorta messiahs and the only hope ...
Let me guess, Lorgar sees himself as a Pariah?
crisp heath
Have you guys actually read the passage where we find out Corax is all warpy now and that he's decided to absolutely ruin Lorgar's life
crisp heath
because it's one of the funniest events in the setting
jade holly
Have you guys actually read the passage where we find out Corax is all warpy now...
That sounds hilarious and based as Hell
crisp heath
I need to run this down real quick
next garden
because it's one of the funniest events in the setting
Unironically spawn camping Lorgar for 10k years.
storm jungle
he isnt though is the thing
this lore has been kinda warped by people for years lol
this event was awhile ago
and Lorgar is active and doing whatever the hell he pleases
next garden
Yeah but its funny
vast heart
That thing has been mad exaggerated tho hasn't it
storm jungle
I mean no its misinformation
storm jungle
That thing has been mad exaggerated tho hasn't it
yep
because he tried to attack Lorgar once, and then just kinda left and Lorgar was unaffected
yet people assume hes scared shitless for no reason
spare osprey
tbf he would be scared
next garden
No he kicked the shit out of Lorgar. Lorgar had to run away
spare osprey
he almost lost their first battle
next garden
Hide behind a ward
vast heart
Yeah that confused me bc I thought Lorgar hypothetically was the strongest primarch in current lore, doesn't make a lot of sense that Corvus can just "Crawwwwwwling in my skinnnnnn" his ass a bird outfit and somehow beat him on home turf
spare osprey
he almost lost their first battle
konrad saved him waaaaaay back
next garden
Corax probably isn't still stalking Lorgars tower but he did in fact beat up Lorgar such that Lorgar had to lock the door behind him.
jade holly
I like how Typhus got pissy at Mortarion for making his home look like, well, his home
Mortarion’s just trying to be a good father lmao
next garden
I like how Typhus got pissy at Mortarion for making his home look like, well, hi...
Typhus can't get over the fact that Morty is still higher up in the Nurgle hierarchy than him.
vast heart
Also I really hope we get Daemon perty/lorgar as dual releases as well as Corax/Russ because that would be such a good "Ornsteign and Smough" duo as well as the Norse symbology of wolves and ravens from Odin
vast heart
It works thematically and leaves you a Kahn/Vulkan release to round it out
and those two contrast well
spare osprey
nah they're all dead on tertium
crisp heath
Best I can do is an enforcer skin at the shop
Lol, I’m downloading gonna see for myself
crisp heath
It's just a good event because Corax is like "I've realized that I'm inherently tied to the warp and that my nature is rage and vengence." To which Lorgar is like "Oh cool, so you've come to swear yourself to Chaos."
"No."
And then there's a fight that's really more like Corax just supplexing Lorgar so hard he knocks out the Word Bearers watching them with the schockwave.
storm jungle
its in the files but not on the shop yet
crisp heath
Best scene 10/10
vast heart
I'd rather hive ganger tbh I think arbites would end up playing too similarly to vet or ogryn
vast heart
esp based on the weapons they use
storm jungle
also yeah like
crisp heath
Fair enough, is good game
Very nice
storm jungle
🙏
crisp heath
I'd rather hive ganger tbh I think arbites would end up playing too similarly to...
Stoked to try out this game for the first time
storm jungle
its the same as how people want a space marine yet it would literally be playing Ogryn but with Veteran abilities
then again Marinecels are awful
jade holly
Most likely class would be like a Callidus Assassin or Admech
jade holly
Fair
storm jungle
and like one-man kill-units
jade holly
Then that leaves only an Admech
storm jungle
the characters joke about them a lot tho so lol
jade holly
the characters joke about them **a lot** tho so lol
And Ratling snipers
crisp heath
An Assassin is also leagues above what the current classes are capable of
vast heart
Assassins should be its own seperate game tbh
You've got a sniper, stealth specialist, berserker(functionally a tank) and a "Mage" who specialises in poisons
crisp heath
Like in terms of deadliness, we're talking about someone who is probably more capable than the average space marine, and is often dispatched specifically to deal with problematic space marines
storm jungle
Kinda
Assassins can easily die too
minus maybe Eversor but they are basically drug fueled Detroit citizens so
vast heart
You've got a sniper, stealth specialist, berserker(functionally a tank) and a "M...
Anyone ever play Brute Force on Xbox way back in the day?
storm jungle
oof thats an oldie
vast heart
I'm thinking essentially that but with assassins instead
crisp heath
Callidus also use a drug besides polymorphine that can make them regenerate
crisp heath
Assassins are just nuts with their toys
storm jungle
Callidus also use a drug besides polymorphine that can make them regenerate
You cant regenerate when you are surrounded and get lynched
its what happens in Kingmaker almost to one of the protag assassins
vast heart
inb4 its a phone game
Actually wouldn't be surprised lmao
queen laurel
Russ is deffo next.
i literally just want to shoot him in front of the space wolves to see the hope leave their eyes
jade holly
i literally just want to shoot him in front of the space wolves to see the hope ...
Good luck, that man’s stubbornness makes him more durable than any other armor
vast heart
Then that leaves only an Admech
I think it would be genuinely stupid for them not to include an admech class at this stage basically all of the groundwork is laid for it and they're the only major imperium faction not represented (we're gonna pretend the oggie is a space marine for this purpose)
crisp heath
They're both extremely powerful but marines are supposed to be well-rounded while Assassins are a bit more glass-cannonny
An Assassin can kill anything, but is more likely to get killed back
scenic bolt
40k fandom is 66% WHAT MUSIC DOES EACH PRIMARCH LIKE? PRIMARCH POWER LEVELS! WHAT NON-PRIMARCH CAN DEFEAT PRIMARCHS!
jade holly
I think it would be genuinely stupid for them not to include an admech class at ...
Would be hilarious if Oggy got a makeshift Space Marine set
storm jungle
40k fandom is 66% WHAT MUSIC DOES EACH PRIMARCH LIKE? PRIMARCH POWER LEVELS! WHA...
This is the reason i dont go to r40klore anymore
vast heart
Would be hilarious if Oggy got a makeshift Space Marine set
But make it fit like a bikini and I'm sold
storm jungle
literally piles upon piles of dumbass primarch questions
literally MCU-tier fanboys
scenic bolt
that was spot on comparison
jade holly
Good thing I found out about Typhus then huh
scenic bolt
mcu-ification
jade holly
At least he ain’t a Primarch
vast heart
40k fandom is 66% WHAT MUSIC DOES EACH PRIMARCH LIKE? PRIMARCH POWER LEVELS! WHA...
And then the other 33% are the ones calling you knife ear unironically lmao
storm jungle
mcu-ification
Primarchs have genuinely ruined this setting lol
crisp heath
Would be hilarious if Oggy got a makeshift Space Marine set
I would love an ogryn skin that's just like old, banged up ultramarine armor chained to their body with with like gaps in in it where they couldn't salvage pieces
scenic bolt
HH should've stayed in its 'A giant cataclysmic civil war happened. It was so long ago we forgot all the details'
queen laurel
Primarchs have genuinely ruined this setting lol
you know what just to fix the setting, i will not hesitate to go back into time, bitchslap erebus and the emperor, and after slapping erebus shoot him in the head five times
scenic bolt
the real consideration
jade holly
Man considering I’m just getting into 40k and am interested in Death Guard makes me feel like I made a bad choice of interest
storm jungle
you really didnt
vast heart
I feel like any major event in your lore that relies on "Something happened here, we'll figure out what happened later when we use it to create shit for you to buy" is doomed to not meet expectations at very best
storm jungle
Death Guard got lots of love in the last few years
jade holly
I mean in the sense that people seem to hate the marines in general
scenic bolt
DG are the most consistently updated chaos space marine army
vast heart
You give the fans too much time to speculate and they'll write better lore than you can come up with on your own I've seen it happen
storm jungle
I mean in the sense that people seem to hate the marines in general
People hate Marines due to them being overexposed by GW and being marketing boys. This is usually for the loyalists.
queen laurel
Man considering I’m just getting into 40k and am interested in Death Guard makes...
there is a saying love the art not the artist
so you can like the death guard without being interested in Mortarion
storm jungle
I have never met a person that hates chaos/traitor marines.
probably because uh
they also barely get any attention
spare osprey
I mean in the sense that people seem to hate the marines in general
nah man
jade holly
Besides maybe Emperor’s Children and Fulgrim
spare osprey
like whatever faction you want
jade holly
spare osprey
nobody is gonna make fun of you for liking them
IH fans might
queen laurel
I have never met a person that hates chaos/traitor marines.
The thing that gets me with chaos is that it's basically one of the few things in the setting that gives you hope even if that hope can be crushed easily by the masters you decided to serve yourself
vast heart
Man considering I’m just getting into 40k and am interested in Death Guard makes...
Nah deathguard are a cool faction I just can't stand how much of an edgelord Morty is, in my headcanon he literally has the exact same voice and mannerisms as Revenant from Apex
storm jungle
IH fans might
Its okay nobody remembers they exist
jade holly
Nah deathguard are a cool faction I just can't stand how much of an edgelord Mor...
Hey Darin de Paul is n amazing voice actor
He’s my personal fav actor atm
scenic bolt
Only play alpha legion if you don't mind hearing the single alpha legion meme for the rest of your tabletop career
crisp heath
People with OC chapters are always cool even if it's their lore is tacky. Hell yeah I love when people express their innate creative through existing things they love
spare osprey
People with OC chapters are always cool even if it's their lore is tacky. Hell y...
ehhh
storm jungle
is as usual great in it
spare osprey
most of the time
vast heart
Only play alpha legion if you don't mind hearing the single alpha legion meme fo...
yo can we roast how shit alpha legion lore is
Because I've started reading books and let me tell you
it is shit
jade holly
And Loba is finally being called out for being a dumbass and a horrible person
storm jungle
People with OC chapters are always cool even if it's their lore is tacky. Hell y...
I literally met a guy who's Chapter was modelled after the Israeli IDF
jade holly
And it took the worst character in Apex to do so
I fucking hate Valkyrie in Apex
Such a horribly written character
vast heart
And it took the worst character in Apex to do so
Yeah I've burnt out on the apex story they've added too many characters and done absolutely nothing with them
Why are Seer, vantage and newcastle even here
jade holly
shout out to my boy Viper for being a real one 💀
No wonder he’d rather die against Cooper than be home with his kid
storm jungle
LMAO
queen laurel
I had a conversation with Maggie once where the chapters are not really the best sometimes
storm jungle
Oh mantis warriors
spare osprey
most of the time
other times you have the "Black Cherubim" with the proto gloriana that all gloriana's were based on
storm jungle
they arent THIS aggressively asian in lore if that helps
vast heart
I fucking hate Valkyrie in Apex
She's literally just a gross mysogynist frat bro but its apparently totally cool bc shes gay. Like no you need to write more to a character than top gun references and jokes about how much ass she eats
storm jungle
^
jade holly
She's literally just a gross mysogynist frat bro but its apparently totally cool...
Not to mention she tried riding off of her father’s legacy instead of trying to be her own thing
queen laurel
Oh mantis warriors
as an asian i'm offended on how asian this looks
jade holly
And she only exists to flirt with Loba and be drunk
queen laurel
like you could be you know a bit more subtle with it but why
storm jungle
Bloodhound is a cool space-norse themed non-binary hunter and literally nobody hates them for example.
Probably because they weren't shoved into the setting and actually had a good backstory and planning
queen laurel
straight up samurai armor
jade holly
like you could be you know a bit more subtle with it but why
It’s the flag on the back isn’t it?
spare osprey
other times you have the "Black Cherubim" with the proto gloriana that all glori...
or the crimson marines, who hunt jews.
that was a fun one to read
queen laurel
or the crimson marines, who hunt jews.
ohh they hunt tyranids that's good
vast heart
Bloodhound is a cool space-norse themed non-binary hunter and literally nobody h...
Dude fr Hounds whole arc was starting to get really good and they just binned it the instant they got with Fuse bc fanservice ig
jade holly
And I thought my theoretical legion/chapter based on Orishas from Africa was bad
queen laurel
you know what i'm talking about
jade holly
crisp heath
please tell me crimson marines are on a wiki somewhere
spare osprey
what in the fuck
yeah, the Juden, a tzeentch based xeno race
jade holly
Now I think I had a more tame idea
spare osprey
please tell me crimson marines are on a wiki somewhere
they got taken down a bit ago
crisp heath
Cowards I need to read this
vast heart
yeah, the Juden, a tzeentch based xeno race
Man they really went there huh
spare osprey
Man they really went there huh
yup
storm jungle
and I thought my IDF Chapter witness was worse
jade holly
What if I just make a legion/chapter and jsut rip it off straight from SCP
queen laurel
Bloodhound is a cool space-norse themed non-binary hunter and literally nobody h...
fuses new heirloom that has a guitar pick bloodhound made for him is very cute
jade holly
No one would notice
vast heart
Tzaangors control the media wake up sheeple
jade holly
jade holly
fuses new heirloom that has a guitar pick bloodhound made for him is very cute
Should’ve been his arm
vast heart
fuses new heirloom that has a guitar pick bloodhound made for him is very cute
Wait did Fuse's heirloom get added? might have to play again
crisp heath
I did see a Native American themed chapter once that started out almost reading like a Native person themself made it, but it quickly devolved into actual racism, where they were doing things like them not wearing helmets because it messed up their feathers
queen laurel
Wait did Fuse's heirloom get added? might have to play again
Yeah it's the classic axe guitar
spare osprey
that was a fun one to read
a tamer one but the Blissful Angels
a chapter with a moon sized space diamond that projected propaganda
jade holly
a chapter with a moon sized space diamond that projected propaganda
So the sphere in California
spare osprey
and who cured the black rage
jade holly
spare osprey
and who cured the black rage
in fact not only did they cure it
they made it a benefit
they also of course have a few star forts and a gloriana
vast heart
Yeah it's the classic axe guitar
oh hell yeah. Lemme just say as the resident australian: most aussie accents in media are legit dogshit, like I've never heard an american do an even 50% accurate aussie accent
Fuse is perfect its incredible what happens when you get a real australian and dont make them ham it up too much
queen laurel
a chapter with a moon sized space diamond that projected propaganda
something that is literally genetically ingrained got cured?
spare osprey
something that is literally genetically ingrained got cured?
yes
but it's ok cause they have hot nuns as serfs
spare osprey
but it's ok cause they have hot nuns as serfs
they also employ multiple imperial saints
jade holly
Surprised I haven’t heard a Legion based on Rome and Emperor Augustus or First Consul Julius Caesar
queen laurel
oh hell yeah. Lemme just say as the resident australian: most aussie accents in ...
Yeah you have to see for yourself it's ******* awesome
crisp heath
A fun idea could be a Blood Angels successor that just's one mentally unshakable marine who keeps 900 or so Death Company in stasis and just unleashes them on worlds he deems too unstable to continue existing
Tyranids? 900 crazy marines. Chaos? 900 crazy marines. Any problem can be solved by releasing my pet psychos, and then I have to round them all back up and put them in their nap boxes.
jade holly
Tyranids? 900 crazy marines. Chaos? 900 crazy marines. Any problem can be solved...
Reminds me of that one SCP of those wolf men soliders they keep in stasis until they need to release them
spare osprey
they also employ multiple imperial saints
they're great
crisp heath
Death Company from other chapters start going missing, it's this guy skimming a few off the top to replenish his numbers and pretending they were from his chapter the whole time
queen laurel
You can’t mention them then not show them
you know what's hotter?
The barrel of my gun after I'm done shooting you
crisp heath
"I don't know how I haven't lost any of my brothers in the last 400 years, maybe they're just too strong to die?"
jade holly
you know what's hotter?
The barrel of my gun after I'm done shooting you
Nah, the only thing hotter than me is the star Betelgeuse
crisp heath
Ask too many questions? 900 crazy marines.
