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It had to happen, my response to Gamza's essay in video form
For context I uploaded this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm-fcWKZueg&t= where I discussed the Grimdark Theme of 40k and called out Gamza for his toxic behaviour.
He responded with a 50 minute video, so this is my response to that
This will be the final video from me on th...
THERE
my hot take is that the utter fixation on making sure everything is grimdark is strangling the creativity of 40K
Im losing my mind

based
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
Yeah some Discord messages were leaked that showed MajorKill was very fond of the N word
correct
a little dash of hope and niceness aint hurt no one
Too much Grimdark just end up as Grimderp
too much grimdark makes it stop being cool
Of course he is he’s an Aussie. I’m pretty sure they get a pass due to skill
i love the lore channel as well
dumbasses
Thank you, your cool too
my wierd take is that there is both too much grimdark but like there is one faction I think isn't grimdarked in the right way
Yeah we're based see
the lore channel regulars are cool people who i enjoy
We also mostly can't stand 1 minute timers
Btw what’s your credit card number?
So we're sensible and come here to argue
aint got one
fuck i hate 1 minute timers

Myes let us argue about funny little plastic figures
MY FUNNY LITTLE PLASTIC FIGURES ARE THE BEST
We shall talk about the economy of Jopal
It's the most tolerable and active lore channel I've had to deal with in a while 
Also I want Jopal ducking exterminatused
Theres a reason I entirely muted memes/class channels and hang out here 
god the when I was in the owlcat's discord
the rogue trader channel it was mostly fine
but there was a lot of yaking off certain characters and 🅱️ itching about some things
and also a lot of horni
How many GWs of revenue does it get?
It's things I've seen 50 times before this week
we've had horni posting, in #veteran-class
that's because nazis can't aim
It's the same things I saw last year, and 5 years ago
You've played the Pathfinder games, right? 😂
I tried playing Wrath of the Righteous
I understand why, since you can romance in those games
40k fans try and make a new joke (IMPOSSIBLE)
But it was snore
Horniness and gamers, an iconic duo
ahem
Uuuhhhh
looks at hand
Smurfs?
Romancing the Sister would be so much better
idk man, I don't trust nuns
my main annoyance was people complaining about the SM companion being a space wolf
uhh, something vaguely racist about salamanders
Why were they complaining about that
Fun fact: they don’t have chastity vows or anything so they can fuck (not you tho)
I'd rather they complained about there being a Space Marine companion
DAE GAURDSMEN LIVE 15 MINUTES???
You say that because I'm a heretic ?
literally any reason they could find
to complain about it
"i'd rather it be x chapter"
"space wolves killed thousand sons"
You're a Commissar ?
etc
It's probably not a hot woman they can bang so they want it changed 
IM A COMMISSAR?
realistically, most stories with astartes loitering around humans would be space wolves, because space wolves tend to do that. other chapters follow the codex and don't spend time mingling with the citizens
this is why space marines are lame
you know how many times I said that
like
the only 2 chapters that'd really make sense
6,000
I mean yeah wolves seem the most in character for this
Ok a Space Wolf and a Catachan get into a drinking competition, who wins?
would be space wolves or salamanders
picture of average space marine's personality
They just go "oh hey fun adventure"
Honestly, I don't care about the SM, it could even not be in the game and I'd have lost nothing
me irl(I cannot emote)
Yeah
too many space marine games would make the quality of 40k games suck
I liek space wolves(I just don't like yaking them off like Zero does)
I mean the quality of 40k games sucks regardless 
Cool picture of Rogal Dorn
and I trust owlcat to make him interesting
i still love them tho
space wolves are the best because they will just show up to a battle you didn't ask for help at and suddenly you have to work them into your strategy or they get upset.
Also what race should I play in TWW2 
i loved space marine 1 when it came out and i was 11
First edition
im hoping i'll love space marine 2 when it comes out
Yeah that’s why I like the Guard better. The marines are supposed to be smaller than the Guard but I feel like the marines have more than them
space marines benefited early from having easy plastics
Why you think I have Ultramarines?
dow 2 was probably the best "story-wise" felt like an epic
but dark crusades characters are the best
and later from being stupidly east to sculpt in printing software
Time for another empire playthrough 😎
Space marines are easy to paint, blue is an easy color to paint. Hence UM being the poster boys
They barely had anything to say and they somehow stole my heart
"This action does not have my consent!"
One didn’t even fucking talk
love me space marine, but I also realize most have 0 personality or anything interesting
I was gifted the $250 collectors edition for my birthday so I’m REALLY hoping it’s good
also dow proves the american accent exists in 40k
nah just appreciate it regardless
Lukas Alexander is a good enough replacement for Sturn (even though I think Sturn is better. And Eliphas made me even gayer than I already am with that voice work. Still salty he was replaced by star scream
This conversation made me realize how much I want a Cain-style story about a Space Wolf and a Catachan getting shitfaced and going on a one-night adventure
my adhd has gotten worse recently or something so it's hard for me to play total war rn
which is a shame beucae chorfs just dropped
Iron Warriors born on Terra should have American accents, fun fact
Average DnD campaign
gotrek felix
but in space
They are from "gun-tribes"
Implying they don’t already
Not in Spess
I feel Imperial Fists are better for the American accent
my adhd has gotten so bad i cant work on anything unless im doped up on ritalin
it's has to be midwestern, maybe aimish.
Only that's gotten worse for me is my urge to be thrown off a cliff 
imperial fists are based on junker culture
I want a "video" of sitgryn that has that one guts theme in the background
so theyre germans
You're right they should be australians
not junker, the yoonker
Imperial Fists are my favorite Overwatch character
Iron Hands fought in like Albion or some shit
See Junkers are even yellow
Actual britbongs
It makes perfect sense
Death Guard are from Albion actually
Bro I love playing as Jaghatai Khan in Overwatch bro underrated character af
literally the time iron hands get lore, its so little
Yeah cuz they suck
Ima say it
harsh but true
They are the worst Space Marine legion
iron hands
Especially considering how a good 70% of the time it's just grimderp
And the only reason people play them is that they’re meta
Iron Hands are great wtf
Ferrus Manus barely had character outside of Fulgrim
I like Iron Hands because I too have body dysmorphia
That’s a way better name
he helped make the sicaran tank
As I said before only cool factor for them would be ferrus getting back as a Helfather
I need them to name more things after iron hands
Besides if you wanna play a techy faction play Skitari
But ferrus as far as I remember got blasted into being the LotD prototype apparently so yeah
The what?
Legion of the damned
Oh
he was the big spirit leading the legion of the damned in one of the books
Acronyms go brrrr
What are the legion of the damned anyway? I’ve heard of them but I’ve never seen what they do.
Wasn't it in war of the webway!
? *
Where big e summons him and a bunch of other imperial heroes as fiery ghosts
I took that Horus Heresy quiz for which Legion you fit the most with, and it was Iron Hands. So I will not stand for this Iron Hands slander as an online quiz told me I should like them.
ye
Nah there's just a bit where Emps is fighting in the web way and his psychic powers manifest as an army of people he knows. Those psychic manifestations don't really stick around and probably aren't the actual person, just shapes of his memories. Ferrus just stands out in the passage because he was a recently deceased son.
Bro I took the same quiz and I got Salamanders and here I am painting Ultramarines
Tbf he also stands out being the only flaming spirit wich connects the dots with the only other burning ghost SM
Bruh I got Sons of Horus and the Harry Potter quiz put me in Slitherin, why do I keep getting assigned evil at birth
Atleast it’s not the Black Legion
I still think the Emperor finally loved his sons near the end of the crusade, because it probably took him a while to realise that the primarchs were the only family he had, after killing his uncle (who killed his dad) long ago
I only trust it if it gives you alpha legion by giving random responces
Well, apparently I'm an Iron Warrior
I am Blood Angel through and through
never will Change
post heresy I like Word Bearers
if its legion, any and all are fine
Space Marine Legions were badass regardless
What did you use
I want to try that
The one on the Horus Heresy website
Ok wait
I am salamanders
Should i feel proud or should i feel disgusted
I mean i do help people but
Could be worse
I will suplex the nearest child if it's annoying
Salamanders when they see a promethean nomad near the sanctuary cities
Too much work. Just shake it until it stops.
Btw funny how the first question is "Horus went full chaos, how do you respond?" the option are clearly loyal and traitor...
... Proceeds to pick loyal and get a traitor legion anyway
you just get killed at istvann
The Knights-Errant[3] were a small host of Space Marines gathered during the Horus Heresy on the orders of Malcador the Sigillite[1a].
Don't forget they also go on a 11k year long now Galaxy wide Geocaching session
you think the space sharks have Blahajs?
blajas mount
Dafuq is a blajas
As a carcharodons fan and a blahaj cultist, I sure fucking hope so
Shark from Ikea
I'm pretty sure the Blahaj is regarded as an ancient Terran idol worshipped by those who seek to modify the human form into its most perfect state, so maybe the admech collect them
I mean, knowing it's carcharadons we are talking about they probably have some but fitted with Atleast 10 chainsaws
Well, I definetly now know what I'm gonna draw when I get home
Omg if you draw sharkies with blahaj I definitely want to see it'd make my week!!!!
Either that or directly a carcharadon blahaj
I'd love you forever 🥺
"The void is cold, brothers, and even in the endless hunt we find no peace. We shall streak the stars with blood and salvation, but no glory or joy was ours, until the Blahaj found us, and brought us, for the first time in millenia, his blessed warmth and snuggles."
so can Evesors recognize friend from foe or will they just kill anyone that find in their kill zone?
They seem pretty aware from what I remember
But generally wherever they're deployed
There's not much that the guy ordering them out wants alive
yeah
but what if some IG scouts end up wandering into the kill zone?
ofc i guess that isnt something that would happen a lot
if anyone cared about there being survivors, they don't send an evesors. i'm pretty sure it's part of their job to get as much collateral as possible. sends a message.
true
Might be like that thing that Kasrkins got where they have an onboard computer thing that has an IFF scanner
maybe
Far as we know, they have some measure of programming for targets to avoid but generally speaking you send in an Eversor because you want to kill an area, not a specific target.
So if someone wanders in to the kill zone they'll probably end up as collateral.
the Evesor backpack does have a targeting computer so that could likely detect an IFF chip
When i think of an assassin I think of a very stealthy person, not me loading my quick save on a skyrim city
You can't get caught if you murder everyone in the area who saw you.
stealth maneuver
Can't argue with that
this looks like a job for me
those axes look baller
Lernean Terminators, Alpha Legion back in the legion days sent these guys on their own
no witnesses if everyones dead
Yeah that's what the other guys are for, Eversors are distinctly the very loud "No survivors" option
eversors are closer to a bomb then an assassin
also
ironically have a bomb in them
jesus, just found an artist on pixiv/dA that thought Nocturne (the salamanders homeworld) had literal black skinned people
even called them Yang-Gelap, which is literally the dark ones when translated in my language
made a Salamander veteran character and called him, Bakar Hitam
literally Burn Black
I thought only the space marines had the ash colored skin
they do
Salamanders have it as actual like Slate Black because of radiation because of nocturnian sun, but their successors would have slate gray skin yes
isn't it like the radiation doing something with the geneseed(even though that doesn't make sense)
yeah
so they have charcoal black skin and red eyes
its the melanachrome gene
Salamanders are part of the Three (forgot the name)
alongside Space Wolves and Death Guard (not death Guard, its Alpha Legion)
where their genes are specifically so modified for certain shit
what do the death guard have?
the tolerance to chemicals (ignore this, this is wrong)
ah
Space Wolves (nicknamed the Rout in the heresy days) were headhunters
like actual wolves they would hunt people down viking style
to sow terror and cause significant operational troubles on their enemies
oh its not death guard
its alpha legion
the Trefoil
their existence was kinda hidden in the early days
thats what they were called
the Trefoil
specifically designed marines and shit
just reported that guy
dont give no quarter
What the hell happened?
ah
he's refering to this
literally just called black skinned peoples, the dark ones
like what is wrong with some people
1, dont like racism,
2. dont like lore inaccuracies
dont like no sounds like a double negative
fixed that
Maybe space marines are an elaborate ploy to get racists to spend all day painting instead of committing hate crimes
nah they got Imperial Guard for that
No but guard are sweet babies 😦
krieg
goddamn wehraboos
that said most krieg fans are normal
its when they ONLY like krieg is when we gotta be on our toes
I wonder what a nocturn guard regiment would look like
probably normal humans with high grade and maintained equipment
promethean cult, everyones a crafter of some sort
I mean like style wise
hmm
probably like those rogue men at arms kinda guy
they got like the green of salamanders armour, with black details
nah they wouldnt be fancy
they would be kinda protean but unique enough
lots of chain-hauberks for flair
salamander skins too
I kinda imagine them basically like how the salamanders are, heavily armored with lotsa fire
they would have gasmask if they had to fight outside the cities often enough
volcanic air is not uh
pleasant
that and rotten eggs if theres sulfur in the air
I think the Ragnar books reference the voidsmen on Space Wolves ship very well equipped and some of them have like pelts or fetishes from home
so they look a bit viking
Honestly they need to bring Lucifer Blacks to the tabletop, either as a regiment or as cheap units to give Custodes armies some extra models
If we get another guard kill team kit
Before eldar, nids or custodes get a new team
I’m going to strangle someone
you think they would make a croneworld eldar kill team
I hope GSC gets a kill team
i think thatd be neat
they do?
The only factions who don’t have a bespoke team now
what was it
Wyrmblade
Do the Tyranid have one ?
and compendiums is whats good
i fucked that one not gonna lie
i was looking at the GSC
Compendium is using normal units from the Codex
So are some bespoke teams
They just have rules that are way better
They’ve pretty much killed all the old compendium teams for GSC, admech, thousand sons and harlequins
The only good compendium teams
Are like
scions and death watch
Harlequins used to have a good one but they got a white dwarf bespoke team
Undivided Deamon Kill Team letting you take Lesser Deamon from all the Chaos God
They already have a compendium one it uh sucks
They also have gellarpox
poor guys
Ig
KT 2018 had demons, but they were pretty half baked. Been hearing the new KT is much better but buying into new rules is a hard sell when I only play with like 3 people and we're all grognards
one thing I don't understand about Dark Angels. does every fast attack option belong to the Ravenwing? and does every heavy infantry unit belong to the Deathwing? because I see lots of bikes painted Calliban Green and sometimes I see them painted black and white in the colours of the Ravenwing. And similarly for Gravis, I see them green and not yellowed bone coloured
No
Deathwing(1st Company) are the inner circle
Basically Veterans
But super trusted goons
I mean in that regard, I would say it's just people painting minis how they want to. Personal preference
but what of the Bladeguard veterans? Is that just GW cramming them into a value box
kek
Ravenwing are the 2nd company, they have lots of bikes/flyers because the company is meant to be specialized in them
Bladeguard are technically 1st Company, so Deathwing
Hence they use the Deathwing Colours
Methinks they can be attached to other comapnies
Oh definitely, 1st company regularly acts as a force multiplier for strike forces
Yeah especially in DA when the main body can't really run around
They'll just get tagged to another company as the wet squad accompanying the Master, who's also in the Inner Circle
(iirc most Deathwing Knights are being groomed for leadership)
But I mean, a successor if they so choose could have bladeguard squad(s) baked into a battle company
Take the Executioners for example, who iirc replace one of their devastator squads in a battle company for a sternguard veteran squad
Oh yeah I mean chapter structures are way more flexible than people give them credit for
Yeah the deathwing also like
Seeing as most marines are versatile enough to do whatever
True
The Codices just give a vague "standard" formation at any given time
Yeah
But it's not crazy to think that, if needed, the squads will switch around
Also, let's not forget the 12 squad strong battle company of the UMs 2nd company in the.....9th ed codex iirc. Where squads were on a prolonged loan from the reserve companies and had their pauldron trims changed to gold
Ye, people just remember Leandros and him saying "Muh codex" every 3 seconds
Despite his advice more or less being
"Bro you literally dropped through 25 ships while AA fire was blowing up infront of you, that's stupid, you're our leader"
Pretty much
The codices also assume the companies are at full strength all the time, which is very unlikely
Or that chapters are at full strength, which is rarely the case. Unless is crisis recovery mode
Titus was unironically a pointlessly reckless leader and was inexplicably immune to chaos, Leandros was correct in his actions
He just built different
Titus should be posterchild for "space marines are mentally 14 year olds chasing a power fantasy"
An actual idiot for doing that jump
he jumps from crazy high up, out of a moving thunderhawk, through AA fire and an active fleet battle, ontop of an Ork cruiser
Also like I know it was for game play progression reasons, but he literally made the jump with nothing but a combat knife and just trusted he could loot some weapons
that whole game was nothing but SM power fantasy lol
That's SM lore in a nutshell tbh
loot weapons
ork territory
i'm sorry, but he might just be dumb.
he is a SM. ofc he is
It is a forgeworld to be fair 
a forge world that frankly should have been ready for an ork invasion
admech spent their military funds on cool weapon experiments, so they didn't have anyone that could actually fight
same as it ever was
"Our titan broke :("
where was the crown during that invasion anyway?
Somewhere else
Prolly with most of the forgeworlds army with it
The tech priests value the crown more then the actual planet
yeah they likely took the titan legion with them too
btw. does the imperium use space elevators?
yeah kinda
Hol up
space marine the game had a space elevator
Why's Vermintide nearly twice the size of Darktide....
older game with 4 expacs worth of content and poorer file compression
didn't vermintide have a different loading system?
it takes ages to download so loading screens could be quick
Alright so
I'm gonna buy Warrior priest
Should I buy the white lion set for kerillian also?
yean. to this day i have never bought any cosmetics for the bright wizard because i never play her kek
I like some of Kerillian's melee, but none of the ranged tbh
I prefer her Glaive
I like Handmaiden
Shade for me
What DLC is the spear/shield in?
Wind of Magic ?
Wait shit everything's on sale
I kinda like the Beastmen, except the Archers
Bestigor ?
Or the monster
The biggest complain I have about the Beastmen is that they have so few units
should have gotten a Minogor as second elite
And some Bray Shaman as specials
Might just ignore winds then
Yeah ignore it
Does Bogenhafen give good weapons?
Which one has the dual weapons
Is Shadows worth it?
The mission are fun, but you can do them with someone who already has the pack
So I'd say not really
Could run with people from here
Atm I'm unable to play, so can't help you
I like playing Vermintide on my own more
People are experienced there and run for grims
Then the dlc is not bad, the maps are fun
can you still get VT1? though I'm sure I got it back then, but it's not on my steam
Ye
hmm, i see
HOLY SIGMAR
The dual hammers are fun af
the emprah made all the abhumans with a purpose. what purpose do you think he intended for his catgirls?


Isn’t funny the eldar god of death kinda looks like a Slaanesh demon
Okay someone possessed by
But still
What mental gymnastics did horus do to turn to chaos
Got stabbed
well more got stabbed. put in a coma. got tricked by Erebus while in said coma
so the lore of Tallarn is basically a case of plans backfiring horribly?
the iron warriors glassed the planet, and it just made the defenders harder to fight
tfw these fucks are better at glassing planets than the iron warriors
Eldar were there helping the tallarn too
still you would think glassing the whole planet would snuff out most resistance
Tallarn probably took it as a sign to man the fuck up
If you’re at 0 percent, you can only go up
not probably they clearly did
most other sci-fi planets when they get glassed: dies
Tallarn when it gets glassed: Jihad it is then
For the Muadib
From the tallarn imperial@guard book
They called the Emperor
Aba Aba Mushira
what does the emprah think of servitors
A necessary replacements to thinking machines
idk if they ever comment on big e's view on servitors
if they dont then his view is that he doesn't give a shit about the people who are lobotmised and enjoys being able to make dissenters into slaves, i assume
Is that the fucking Laer Blade?
Its Ynneads own Cronesword isnt it
Yeah Villith Zar
The sword thats used by Yncarne
Magic that screwed with his personality
got tricked into believing the emperor was casting the primarchs out
played on his paranoia and pride
Horus had a lot second thoughts, like his complaints to malcador as to why one of his brothers (the 2 missing primarchs) had to die
given a glimpse of a future where the emperor becomes a god, which contradicts the Imperial Truth he was espousing in the crusade
so on and so forth
I dont know if it was in the first three books or fear to tread
but Horus had wondered what would happen to the primarchs once its the crusade is all over
in Corax's Deliverance Lost (its also a good Alpha Legion book, no spoilers)
inside the hilmalayas (the imperial Palace, part of it), were 20 massive penthouses built inside
Corax raised by prisoners and was one himself, recognized a prison when he sees one obviously
but he also notes that each room was tailor made and even additions like furniture and high class stuff
so there was a change at some point
I think he also points out that beds are worthless to primarchs, because they dont sleep or something...
I know he comments about beds
They do sleep, but it seems to be exceptionally rare
imagine how big those beds are
Comically large
California California King
its got to feel like stone for us to sleep on considering how heavy and tough it needs to be
Might just be a super thick, memory foam mattress
the most important STC the emperor maintained for himself
XD one for a good nights sleep
Did horus at least make the yogurt go up?
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Cypher Book spoilers + summary
Oh shit
All I want to ask is, is it good?
||Custodes wardens going around with Pokeballs in the dark cells||
||and btw I'm curious about the "figure with a broken sword. A king on a throne. A knight sleeping on a bed of rock" like, as one is clearly the lion but the other two possible futures I don't know||
||A king on a throne,|| wouldn't that be the Emperor ?
Depends on who they are referring
Btw, dafuq is a Solar Hoplite?
Solar Auxillia Voidsman
Probably a Guard formation
?
||Also btw Terra being described as basically becoming an imperial daemon world due to the metric fuckton of psychic energies flowing through the throne is good||
Seems like so, closest thing is Saturnine Hoplites
They're a guard formation
Think Lucifer Blacks and Palatine Sentinels
At least that's what'd make sense
Were those part of the Solar Auxillia ?
Nooe
Or a separate thing
Solar Auxilia is just the old Saturnine reformed
Lucifer Black's and similar are imperial army
And are now almost exclusively used to sit on Terra
||btw the imperial fist marine in the book rushing the fallen with a power fist and a shield screams badass to me||
||Also we can finally settle the debate on if the chaos gods care officialy thanks to this book considering it's confirmed they are not even truly sentient||
Chaos fans owned
I mean, seeing how Terra and the emperor are described too we are not that far off
||Mostly because we got our Grey Jedi equivalent Cypher who just can't decide if he wants to save or burn the imperium||
It reminds me of descriptions of a shrine world in some tau book I think
There was art of them fighting Vostroyans there
And it mentioned lots of priests performing random miracles
I mean, it wasn't explicit but it isn't out of the blue, the Chaos God have often been described as force of nature rather than real beings
Primal energies flowed and formed and what not
||Also during the second premonition thing I wonder what's the broken sword||
Oh. Is there at least the existence of a story progression for the fallen?
The lion sword
Yes and no
Is Luther still MIA?
Not mentioned
Yep
Yeah he wasn’t mentioned in the battle that freed him lmao
Wonder when they'll bring him back into the picture
Would be kinda weird if he just
Wasn't brought bakck
I just hope they don't just make him Mordred but in space
||He probably managed to escape with the very very fucked retreat made by BL||
His escape is explained in his book no
||The door was open, and there was the sound of a battle oustide||
||so he limped out||
Yeah and Azzy may or may not have let it happen 
He was interrogating him as the battle started
||Didn't Sanguinus break his sword or something ?||
And left the door open
||and the watchers watched him leave if I’m remembering correctly||
Damn I love pre lion lore for their home planet
I wish that mentality of ha ha big monsters die stayed
It just got brought back
||yeah but the second premonition is based upon the fact that The entire fate of the imperium is in Cypher hands depending on when he will decide to finally fucking Stab the emperor||
Wait what?
Hunting traitors and big enemies
He got back to the Legion and went "Kill Chaos"
And now they're running around killing shit
No more books and it’s zero meaning killing like 2 dudes?
Oh I mean that's just Black Library
Lol
Wait is that from the ark of omen book?
I must consume All the monster hunting related warhammer media I can
I love big monster hunting
Some of the AoS books are basically just that iirc
The tyranic war vets, dark krakens, astral Templars
And it’s beautiful
From the stream
Oh, didn't watch it
I was still at the "The lion is somehow back and has been for a while appearing with his magical spooky forest to space green knight imperium Nihilus" stage supposed to be before he gathers the Risen and goes to caliban
Or the rock or however we want to call it now
They really decided on calling them the Risen ?
Yes!
I mean, it would have been either that or something like "The Forgiven" or shit
So Risen seems good imo
Destiny ass names
I think in Fantasy it's the name of a faction for the Undead Pirates
(wich makes me wonder why they didn't do the cooler thing and give the bladeguard veterans in the box Fallen colors)
Especially considering how the lion still uses the darkended grey/black armour
'What were those things?’ he asks.
‘They are dead now,’ the Lion answers, ‘and that is all that matters.’ The fur-clad commander, whose back the Lion broke, is still twitching. Zabriel walks over to him and aims his bolt pistol at the fallen heretic’s head. ‘Wait!’ the Lion instructs him. He crosses the floor and glares down at his broken adversary. ‘Your sorcerer is dead. What must I do to rid myself of this malady that impedes me?’ ‘Impedes you?’ the traitor hisses, his breath coming in staccato gasps. It takes the Lion a moment to realise that he is laughing through pain. ‘You slaughtered my best and broke my back as though I were a child. What manner of being are you, that you consider yourself impeded when you can still do such things?’ The Lion reaches up and removes his helm. Perhaps this creature knew his face once, or perhaps not, it doesn’t matter. Nor is he concerned about the risk of exposing himself briefly to the air. This is the first time he will declare himself in ten thousand years, and he will not do it from behind a ceramite faceplate.‘I am Lion El’Jonson, primarch of the Dark Angels and son of the Emperor.’
The heretic’s eyes go wide, and there is no doubt or denial in them. But then he smiles, exposing teeth that are now merely jagged points. ‘There is no malady at work here, my lord. You simply got old.’ The Lion stares at him for a moment. Then he turns away, breathing heavily, pursued by the clean bite of the truth. Zabriel’s bolt pistol speaks one final time, and then there is silence.
WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE NOT IN MY PRIME AFTER A COMA OF 10 THOUSAND YEARS
The lion to his two watchers when he woke up, probably
And yet, still a Dilf
He did what was asked, even said "My Lord"
he is the eldest brother so you know
Same energy
the age finally got to him
Is this Son of the Forest spoilers before I read this
most surely yeah
the only things with lion content as of now are the Arks book, son of the forest and some quick mentions of him in the cypher book
and that scene is neither a weird premonition or him bitch-slapping angron to next weekend so im pretty sure it's from Son
Okay DA give me my 12 hour long book where a group of a veteran, a new guy, a specialist, and a medic travel across a planet to kill a monster that pissed off a noble’s great great grandfather

considering 99% of monsters DA face are somehow chaos infused it's not that far off with how they will probably start operating with Lion return
The DA home planet was infected by tzeentch, so fair
Which WAS AWESOME HOLY SHIT
wait werent' caliban monsters due to some random artifact?
It had a massive chaos artifact mashed into ti
It was tzeentch artifact
yeah, that i rememeber and the fact it could have literally rewrote time and space when put with it's sister artifacts
didn't remember it was a tzeentch one
Yeah that sounds pretty tzeentch lmao
That’s why tzeentch specially completely destroyed the planet
Im pretty sure it was said it was tzeentch’s doing that the world is the way it was somewhere in the Luther book
But also the first demon Luther summons is a brimstone horror
Have you seen the Arks spoilers?
No

I have seen all the way up to far sight
oh btw, imagine being one of these guys: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Unnamed and proceed to learn that everything about how your chapter should operate is not a thing after less than 200 years of being founded
The Unnamed are a Dark Angels Successor Chapter of the Ultima Founding.[1]
Do you care about the spoilers?
Nah
Do you want to hear some of the fun bits?
Sure!
||The Watchers knew the Old Ones, Caliban is an artificial world, and Vashtorr has turned it into a massive daemon webway portal||
||also the DA are finally caught legion building by the Inquisition||
Lmao
Btw big ups to Vashtoor for being the most competent chaos character and pulling more shit than half the chaos roster combined in less than half their time
btw, regarding the arks spoilers ||i think that the Inquisiton getting involved is gonna be so that the Lion will just Forestwalk his legion the fuck out and operate more as basically the alive version of the legion of the damned||
I really wanna be excited for monster hunting DA, but I don’t want get disappointed by DA lore and get stuck with an army I don’t like lmao
It’s a risky game
Side note, I love empire huntsman
I have no clue why the lex art
Is uhh
They fucking trash
Markus Wulfhart my hero
that because 90% of the time it's from books so old that they where published before i was born
Also vermintide 2 huntsman bow spam build my beloved
It’s not very good
But I love getting 200 headshots in a row
I got Warrior priest and it might just get me to play more Vermintide
I need to redownlaod vermintide
i had green knight and engineer
I thoguht it was gonna be done getting updates
grail knight*
And then it got like 4 of its biggest updates ever
Same
I love grail knight
My build was a potion build mainly
The, red or gold effect I can’t remember
That caused potions to last longer and to be given to all my Allies
Support grail knight and support mercenary my beloved
I like support builds
Still waiting for this
Okay I thought those were first turtles, then that one dnd enemy, then that one halo enemy
But those are uhhh
The tryanjds uhh
Nids
Yeah
I can’t remember the units name fuck
I want to say the tyranid guard
But I know it’s wrong
They're Gaunts I think
There are a few gaunts though
Reading the Markus wulfhart and hunters warhammer wikis fills me with such joy
And ignoring the terrible art
The idea of a government figure paying a bunch of people who kill deer for a living to tract down and kill a dragon
Also Primaris combi plasma 
how long until there are more Primaris troop variants than there are atoms in the universe?
Primaris Destructinators coming soon
I'm hoping it'll just be a "Primaris Veterans" kit or something
Soon salamander fans will have a real kit they can take advantage of
Instead of having green marines
Im@so happy for them
The uh, flamer guys
In the trailer
nah salamanders get a massive overhaul in 3 years with the release of Vulkan
(I forgot what they were called)
probably something like Primaris Infernalizers
lmao
Primaris Fertilizers
Also I see a lot of kitbashes for salamanders where they wear dead animal bits like trophies on their armor
But like, outside of that one random lizard
'untsman general
shout out to markus fucken doinking taurox
||uwu||
I need to buy this dlc
TIME TO BUY 3
Yeah the archers are kinda doodoo and the carts are worse
have stuff work cross game?
Hitman did it
Yeah it barely worked for me I had to restart steam for every FLC
It's fine since they added the "Add to Library" feature on steam
Yah it didn’t work for me
it would try to launch the game every time you did it before
Only on like 2 of them
But before that I couldn't even get it to work lol
can't wait for Hadron Weapon Pack #2
It did ?
YEA
To be a for it was like
I could never get my payzay 2 vr to work
And also "Celebrity" cameos(Ethan and Hila)
lmao that's right
Also rip everyone who doesn’t have the Scarface dlc
also Ron Pearlman
The literal best dlc
who seems like he just wanted to die
Doesn't he always seem like that
that too
Pearlman basically doesnt give a fuck unless the movie is good
so a random ass video game is prob the last thing he cared about
"PUNK ASS TASER"
"PUNK ASS CLOAKER"
"PUNK ASS DOOR"
"PUNK ASS DRILL"
Afternoon paycheck
^
He was on a bender near Starbreeze offices and needed some extra cash so he rang them up
Extremely realistic and believable
Remember that WW2 thing they did
GOD
RAID WW2 or something
Oh god lmao
Was it ever alive?
no
Oh that all time peak is depressing
that's atrocious
yeah that game was smothered in the crib
Wait how is Payday still alive
^
and it's just fun to kill cops
lmao man you missed a lot
Yeah I still can't afford the DLC lol
I just did the starter bank and shadow raid nonstop
Yeah there's always that one game where you just have to show law enforcement that you have better weaponry than the military
I'm looking at you prototype
The feeling of grabbing a random police officer and slamming him into the concrete
Lovely
I stopped playing about the same time Bane vanished and that South African merc guy took over the intercom
I was...not expecting everything that followed when I checked back on it on TV Tropes
||Shadow Demons?||
||Payday and Left 4 Dead sharing the same universe, diverging at the Mercy Hospital?||
||Whatever the FUCK was going on at the White House?||
||Bane stealing John DeLancie's body (who is also the fucking|| ||PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?)||
||and don't forget the payday crew doing all this just so they can get a pardon for all their crimes||
Last I checked we were just stealing cocaine from russian mobsters and cooking meth out in the boonies while under assault by the entire fucking police force of the United States!
How does a game about robbing a bank with military-grade weaponry have lore deeper than the mariana trench
||That's the only fucking part that made sense!||
I have no idea. They stopped taking themselves seriously, I guess
Not a bad thing. I mean for christ sake, we're on a Warhammer 40k discord.
Yeah i'm sure it's not as deep as warhammer 40k
Hopefully
||Okay so fun fact about no mercy||
||IIRC the shadow demons are literally responsible for every societal ill since the fucking bronze age||
||in payday 1 the secret ending wasn’t cannon||
||So technically yes, just in a shallower way||
||but in payday 2, they didn’t say it wasn’t cannon||
Holy shit please don't tell me this gets any deeper than that
||there is a very solid chance that the payday gang caused l4d 2||
/spoiler the Easter egg right
||OH YEAH THEY ALSO HIST STEAL BLOOD AND SELL IT FROM@THR INFECTED GUY||
Oh damnit
||I don't fucking know||
||Also the hope diamond powers a mayan supernatural wish granting device IIRC||
||It's located underneath the white house||
||And the Dentist/Mr Los Pollos Hermanos Meth Empire Dude threatens to kill Bane if the players don't activate it so he can use it||
||And if you activate it correctly you get the True Ending||
||Which is the Payday Gang (all 30-odd members including John fucking Wick because of movie tie-ins) all getting pardons||
||And the aforementioned Bane stealing the body of the US President/John DeLancie||
||OH YEAH THE MISSION IN PAYDAY 2 is a flash back||
This is on a game where you can play as an armored gorilla with a rocket launcher
It got very weird at the end and I'm almost upset I didn't get to play it
At this point it's an entire f****** circus
I'm sure you heard of the spoon weapon
PD2 is the good type of whack, and has such a great soudtrack
I gave up and waiting for payday 3
I though they tried than gave up on PD3 and made a bunch of dlc for 2
I don't play it but i can describe the gameplay as adding crack on cheeto dust and huffing it
Payday 3 teases us with a brand new logo and that it's coming to PC and Consoles in 2023.
#payday3 #gaming
Oh right, I just remembered the Cloaker breaking the fourth wall all the damn time
Why?
Because he was removed from the game, but the fanbase complained so he got re-added
And the fanbase complained again
Because he was re-added
Funniest shit I've seen
oh right, remember that hardcore henry is also canon in the payday universe so cybernetics, psychics and people using telekinesis are too due to the tie-in
OH WE HAVE A THEROU FOR WHY JACKET EXISTS
theory*
Achem;
||okay so the major theory is that the PD/swat/every other main antagonist use cloning technology||
||and for some reason they cloned jacket||
||and don’t ask about the ending to hotline Miami 2||
||I mean, is it so bad to assume that Florida doesn't exist anymore too?||
||I have no clue how it fits in the cannon except that, ameirca got better||
||’it’s okay Russia we didn’t like that area anyway’||
Man payday really did have such a strange cast
Yea
||also the clone theory is why Scarface is alive.||
||because they said that it’s the real scarface for some reason||
||I forgot about Scarface!||
||so did the people who were making the Scarface remake||
||Imagine a Skarface movie that mention the story of Payday ?||
Man payday 2 having deeper lore than 40k wtf
maybe one of the Emperor's disguises was Bain
:,(
NoOO I don’t wanna become a payday warhammer cat girl
I’m very surprised there isn’t very many chapters that specialize in killing gaint monsters
Giant monster get faced by Knight or Titans
Where is my chapter master with 600 hours in monster hunter world
Oh yeah why does the monster hunter movie exist
Fantasy doesn't have those so you have to get by without it by having crazed dudes ready to throw down with bigger foes
Or a madman with a magic bow
And a hatred for bipedal crocodiles
Because MH is quite popular
But why is it so bad
And it’s perfect
In lore he hate the Beastmen
Killed Bronze Bull dude
WHY DID THEY MAKE A FUCKING GULF WAR SOLDIER GO TO A DESERT
AND LOKE
WHU
WAKSHSJWJS
‘Ok do know how monster hunter takes place in veru beautiful jungles’
‘Fuck that’
MH take place in many biomes
worst one


