general-chat

[tawny gorge]

which is also the strongest weapon in the setting

[lilac crag]

I'm gonna strangle you I think

[tawny gorge]

arent you a twink how are you gonna do that

[lilac crag]

I am not a twink

[narrow ledge]

ban him for using twink

thats offensive

[tawny gorge]

i'll trust you

gw doesnt care about the numbers

[dapper mantle]

oh wait until you hear about the Massif Ballistus, and this is recently added too
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Massif_Ballistus

[tender horizon]

40k is pulp, it doesn't need hardline "we did the math" numbers imho.

Just enjoy the ride.

[tawny gorge]

if you factor in crossing the rubicon there should be like

10 space marines per chapter

[tender horizon]

They made that safer tbf

[tawny gorge]

they made the grimdark killer even stronger?

thank you cawl

[blissful kiln]

is Biggus Dickus manning that gun?

[tender horizon]

Like iirc it was very risky(except for your named character) and then it progressively got safer over time.

[tawny gorge]

shoutout primaris marines for still not making them truescale

[tender horizon]

Im ngl I do not like primaris models

[tawny gorge]

i dont like how gw justified higher prices with the primaris models just for them to not be true scale

[dapper mantle]

yeah, but it does ruin immersion for me
it's like hearing a fantasy story and an archer so skilled he killed a quintillion people with only 5 arrows
that's what 40k numbers are doing to me

you don't need to do the math, but you should make it somewhat believable

[lilac crag]

that isn't very healthy

[tawny gorge]

immersion and warhammer in the same sentence

immersion is to be had in the moment

[tender horizon]

40k is the sci fi equivalent of this tbf.

Like

[lilac crag]

this is the same franchise that can't settle on boltguns or lasguns

shrug it off

[tawny gorge]

wym

[vivid quail]

Feel like somewhere along the way y'all lost the plot on what Warhammer is when deep dive like that,the whole point is one uping whoever your enemy is

[tender horizon]

There's an ultramarine who killed a c'tan shard with some elbow grease and a vortex nade iirc

[lilac crag]

lasguns having recoil

[tawny gorge]

they don't

darktide has recoil because it feels weird without it

that's it

[vivid quail]

DAWG

[tawny gorge]

in canon lasguns don't have recoil

[vivid quail]

recon

[junior holly]

Allo allo allo Rejects

[vivid quail]

Kentrail

[lilac crag]

I'll take your word for it

[vivid quail]

Different patterns

[tender horizon]

Tbf the lasers shouldn't be red either, DT made em red

[blissful kiln]

the lasers have been red since DoW

[narrow ledge]

?

[tender horizon]

They've been off white yellow in art since 1987

[tawny gorge]

they look better red

[dapper mantle]

agreed

[narrow ledge]

google agrees

[tawny gorge]

irl they would be completely invisible

so it doesnt matter

[tender horizon]

Regrettably I've been into 40k for approximately 14 years atp

[narrow ledge]

get well soon

[tender horizon]

Hope so

[dapper mantle]

DoW got me into 40k

[narrow ledge]

vt2 got me in

during covid

[tender horizon]

SM1, when I was uhhh, 13 or 14

[dapper mantle]

then some miniatures
then Darktide

most underrated 40k game is the Deamonhunters one

[tawny gorge]

is it?

[dapper mantle]

it is

[narrow ledge]

fantasy>40k

[tawny gorge]

i love the grey knights

but chaosgate daemonhunters was really unbalanced

wonder how you have to play it on destroyyourballs difficulty

[tender horizon]

Its worse Xcom 2 but so is everything in that genre

[tawny gorge]

understatement

[dapper mantle]

I mean it has the same problem XCOM 2 has
late game snipers and rangers run the show

[tawny gorge]

Xcom 2 is leagues above daemonhunters

[tawny gorge]

it makes sense though

[dapper mantle]

I like DH combat better though, no more misses, solid damage range

it's a lot more grindy though...

[tender horizon]

I dont mind the misses in xcom 2 cause you can heavily mitigate them

[tawny gorge]

and it has ingame permadeath condition

very fun!!

[blissful kiln]

xcom2 is pretty easy to break. just spam explosives

or melee

[dapper mantle]

I mean the probably with XCOM-like games is the reverse difficulty.
early game a miss means a dude can die
late game you turn your brain off because your action economy is so high

[blissful kiln]

mods fix that

Long War Rebalance or Long War 2 for nu-xcom and xcom2 respectively

[tender horizon]

Phoenix Point is pretty good tbh

[blissful kiln]

late game is still very deadly

perhaps deadlier

[dapper mantle]

hmm never did try LW2 😳

[tender horizon]

Late game xcom is easier people when the chryssalids show up

[blissful kiln]

the main thing that Long War mods do is break the Alpha-team dependancy

you can beat both nu xcoms with 6 people vanilla

[dapper mantle]

also hot take but I think Chimera Squad had better combat. the theme of the game didn't help it.

the subdue mechanic is great to temper those early game swings

and still useful late game where you can take a small risk for a small reward, so it's not useless

[tawny gorge]

what difficulty do you play xcom2 in

[wary flint]

is south africa servers the best option for getting bots only or is there one with maybe less ping if based out of US?

[dapper mantle]

maybe try modding the game instead? unless you are on console o.o

[lapis spear]

I played on some Asian servers while I was deployed and they were pretty dead. Don't know if the ping would be better or worse though

You can try the MMT mod if you just want to play with bots by yourself

[wheat sphinx]

Clearly Darktide is the most underrated 40k game

[marsh notch]

So i have a russian friend trying to play

He has the game on steam

But cant seem to.commect

[dapper mantle]

I paid $20 and they can't even fix Hammer of Judgement for the Arbites 😭
it's overrated...

[marsh notch]

Anyone has had a similar problem?

[nocturne horizon]

verify steam files

[bronze compass]

where do i go too see what tier i am on in the event, or is that not possible

[ocean widget]

the events over

[bronze compass]

oh

[wheat sphinx]

Wdym

[surreal ermine]

bro is NOT getting his plasma gun border

[blissful kiln]

huh? isn't is supposed to be till 13th?

[wary flint]

i thought the solo mod made it so you were offline and things like penances wouldnt count?

[ocean widget]

nope

[blissful kiln]

fatfish lied

[dapper mantle]

im complaining that they can't bug fix their game fast enough lol

[stable path]

is steam broken because of 2xko release or something?

[wheat sphinx]

No I mean what is the bug

[stable path]

i can barely browse it

[wheat sphinx]

shiiit I didn't get it either

[dapper mantle]

oh it simply doesn't work.

that's the bug

[untold abyss]

damn Im getting a backend error when logging in the game

[stable path]

actually i cant even log in to steam

[surreal ermine]

i dont even think 2xko is on steam
regardless when i open the steamapp all im getting is raw code lmao so something might be borked

[hollow sierra]

Steam seems to be down

[hallow cairn]

i was about to ask for that

[stable path]

oh yeah so steam is down

[nocturne horizon]

im having the same issue rn

[hallow cairn]

bruh

[stable path]

yea thats a relief then

[hallow cairn]

cant even play games 💀

[nocturne horizon]

wym a relief

[untold abyss]

What is gaben up to now

[nocturne horizon]

THIS IS A DISASTER

[wheat sphinx]

Oh Steam is down

beautiful

[stable path]

if its for everyone then its not a problem on my end

[hollow sierra]

Yeah most of steam is down, its a big outage

[stable path]

🏴‍☠️

[hallow cairn]

it began yersterday for NA

[surreal ermine]

i cant believe valve hq fucking exploded

[hallow cairn]

dont have any

[ocean widget]

valve hq got colonised, now everyone has to submit their digital IDs

[tawny grail]

Isn't it Tuesday
Isn't Tuesday maintenance day for Steam

[nocturne horizon]

how the hell am i going to play games now, i might have to play roblox omg..

[wary flint]

tuesday is steam maintenance day

[ocean widget]

tuesday night yes

it isnt tuesday night

also games go offline then

[tawny grail]

It's always Tuesday night somewhere

[ocean widget]

games arent offline now

[surreal ermine]

its tuesday day

[stable path]

we have to send our geneseed to gabe newell

[hallow cairn]

yes

[nocturne horizon]

i got into steam

ez

[hallow cairn]

tuesday DAY

[untold abyss]

oh yeah the weekly maintenance

[hallow cairn]

fr?

[untold abyss]

forgot about that

[nocturne horizon]

ye

[hallow cairn]

damn

check him pc

[dapper mantle]

maintenance is like an hour

it's v quick

[hallow cairn]

its been 20 minutes already

[nocturne horizon]

darkthide works for me now

[dapper mantle]

well it's not an hour now is it

[hallow cairn]

yeah

u right

[nocturne horizon]

open darktide in gamefiles

[hallow cairn]

no way

[stable path]

steam players when they cant access their digital library for 20 mn

[wheat sphinx]

We are addicted

[dapper mantle]

what's your hour on steam for the last two weeks?

just checking if you're a real gamer

[twin mesa]

If it's maintenance wouldn't we get a steam notification?

[dapper mantle]

I don't think they do?

if you try to log in sometimes they tell you though, sometimes

[hallow cairn]

we can still launch darktide

offline steam

online FS

[twin mesa]

Well, I dunno if ive ever experienced steam maintenance live before

[hallow cairn]

nvm

[dapper mantle]

it's weekly on Tuesday 😄

[hallow cairn]

forget what i said

[lapis spear]

Steam maintenance is every Tuesday my dude

[hallow cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-cat-uncanny-cat-gif-17717270398074174657

[nocturne horizon]

why dont they do maintenance on a monday

tuseday is important

[dapper mantle]

is 40 hours on steam in 2 weeks a lot?

😳

[nocturne horizon]

its balanced

[stable path]

its really alright

[nocturne horizon]

1 work week is usually 40 hours

[hallow cairn]

rookie numbers

[dapper mantle]

okay I feel better now kek

[stable path]

please dont use slurs when im online

[hallow cairn]

employed amount of hours

[nocturne horizon]

i dont have a job

i might have to send some applications

[stable path]

trigger warning when u use the j word too please

[dapper mantle]

I'm employed.

[nocturne horizon]

online interviews are getting hard

with all the ai competition

👼

[dapper mantle]

gl dude

[lyric basin]

It's a dee doss

[wheat sphinx]

I have Steam turned on so much that I once had like 200 hours in 2 weeks

I didn't even play a game

I just had Steam launched

[dapper mantle]

I don't think it logs idle time, does it?

[nocturne horizon]

no

yes

i fell asleep with bg3 and i got like 12 hrs for playtime

[tender horizon]

When elden ring came out i had no job and I put ~170 hours into steam in 2 weeks

So, ig its about perspective

[ocean widget]

damn wtf its been over 5 minutes

steam really shat the bed

havoc is designed to be hard bruh

[hollow sierra]

I know right!!!

[ocean widget]

then dont play it

[tender horizon]

Havocs are the only gamemode I actually have fun in anymore tbh, please do not make them easier

[ocean widget]

thats why its called havoc

[hollow sierra]

Like ive seen outages before when wanting to buy stuff, but now i cant even play stuff!

[hazy kestrel]

That’s just havoc pal

[tender horizon]

Havoc is the closest I can get to double resources director

I miss that glitch

[ocean widget]

i cant even play shotgun king

[untold abyss]

Whos ddossing steam now

[nocturne horizon]

darktide works online again

[hazy kestrel]

Playing with a controller is easy, wym?

[dapper mantle]

there is not enough elites in Auric to satisfy me
I miss that whoosh sound when you kill one

[tender horizon]

I don't play with mods and you aren't limited to a controller either.

[dapper mantle]

no he's saying playing on console is hard

[hazy kestrel]

But it’s not lmao

Well, unless they have terrible system performance issues still

[tender horizon]

Conversely just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad.

[clear trench]

anyone else having problems with steam and darkited rn

[ocean widget]

everyone is

[dapper mantle]

yeah so people here enjoy it, why do you come here and suggest to change it?
I chill in Auric sometimes when my brain is too tired. It is enough for everyone.

[ocean widget]

steams shat the bed more than people with embed perms did

[tender horizon]

Ive been having issues with steam since like 1am est last night tbh

[hazy kestrel]

I personally don’t find current havoc fun, so I’m not playing it whatsoever but that doesn’t mean it’s bad.

[ocean widget]

just dont play havoc then dumbass

[nocturne horizon]

i just loaded onto the morningstar via steam rn

[ocean widget]

god people really love creating their own problems huh
dont like it dont play it
shrimple

[south wyvern]

Steam has taken me offline, I've been trying to log back in for over 5 minutes.

[ocean widget]

havoc is designed to be hard bruh
just admit you're bad

[dapper mantle]

but it IS balanced and fun for a lot of people kek

[hazy kestrel]

Dude, Havoc is literally the endgame content. It’s not meant to be easy.

[stable path]

maybe skill issue

[hazy kestrel]

Most likely skill issue.

[ocean widget]

i personally dont enjoy havoc so i dont play it
i can see the appeal for other people so i dont say "ooh we should change havoc to be easier cus i dont like it"

[dapper mantle]

maybe not balanced and fun for YOU and that's okay
I fucking suck at chess, I don't go about complaining they shuold nerf the queen

[stable path]

they should nerf promised consort radahn

[lapis spear]

It's not supposed to be balanced

[stable path]

wait wrong game!!!

[ocean widget]

yes yes, just admit your education system failed you already

[tender horizon]

Tbh I'm simply kinda sick of people complaining about actually difficult content in pve games being "unbeatable" and it gets watered down into something mind numbingly boring, so yeah, I am gonna tell you I think you should just play a different game mode.

[lapis spear]

It's literally designed to be the most bullshit difficulty

[wheat sphinx]

@still pulsarYou're severely stupid

btw

It's meant to be the bullshit hard difficulty

[hazy kestrel]

It’s fun to them, so who cares? It’s meant to cater to those players that enjoy suffering and insurmountable odds.

[dapper mantle]

why I stopped playing Helldivers tbh

[tender horizon]

Likewise.

[whole glade]

i gotted Chicken sammich

[ocean widget]

by chance do you inspect if a guns empty by looking down the barrel?
you seem like you'd do that

[stable path]

so true bestie

[tender horizon]

Nice, from?

[ocean widget]

noice

[wheat sphinx]

No they just fire again to check if it's empty

[whole glade]

Ye :]

[lapis spear]

In other words, skill issue

[surreal ermine]

havoc is supposed to be stupidly difficult for the real gamers man, i dont want this shit ending up like helldivers where d10 is barely any different from d7

[stable path]

im eating kit kat cereal

[clear trench]

i got ham sammish

[whole glade]

The chicken sammich man

[lyric basin]

Fatshark fix steam right now

[tender horizon]

Hell yeah

[whole glade]

Honey ham?

[clear trench]

hamer

[dapper mantle]

do you know the restaurant Wendy's?
why is it called Wendy's? when I bought the food it should be mine, not Wendy's. who is she and why is she such a fat b

[ancient violet]

Wait I just realized this guy's avatar is Kenshin 💀

[dapper mantle]

I paid for the food, it's mine.

[wheat sphinx]

Helldivers could use a competitive difficulty, I want D10 to be like Darktide Auric

[hazy kestrel]

Say it with me now: Havoc is designed to be as difficult as possible, and plenty of people enjoy it because of that.

[whole glade]

Hell yeah

[hazy kestrel]

It’s that simple

[ocean widget]

who the fuck is kenshin, i dont watch anime

[stable path]

i keep getting microsoft code verification texts i think someone is trying to hack me

[surreal ermine]

should probably change your passwords man

[ancient violet]

The manga with the creator who got arrested for having 10 tbs of CP 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[clear trench]

barbie and ken

[ocean widget]

oh
ew
checks out

[hazy kestrel]

I main zealot, actually. But go off I guess.

[wheat sphinx]

I mean if the game is just "spam LMB, side dodge and F" you should be good enough to win Havoc 40, right?

[surreal ermine]

why would people play havoc if they dont enjoy it 😭

[hazy kestrel]

If you’re gonna try and rile me up, at least try harder yeah?

Literally most people in the chat?

[stable path]

uh oh

[lapis spear]

Ask ainz

He solos havoc

[ancient violet]

Nah like I'm actually curious, why do you have that avatar? 🤔 @still pulsar

[stable path]

maybe hes a kenshin fan and doesnt know about the nobuhiro watsuki controversy

tbh its a decent manga looool

[ancient violet]

It's been over 10 years 💀

[surreal ermine]

something something art and the artist

[dapper mantle]

I think it is possible to separate the art from the artist

I like Kayne music

[wheat sphinx]

I mean I agree

[stable path]

here we go

[wheat sphinx]

Or Jeepers Creepers movies, and many other movies

[ancient violet]

Something something

I prefer to consume mindlessly than to care about basic morality 😞

[wheat sphinx]

Wow your life must suck

[stable path]

do yu see dis COAT 👺

[ancient violet]

Dam you think that's a gotcha? I've known from the start 😈

[clear trench]

@whole glade how was sammitch

[tender horizon]

Me saying I don't like Kanye's music until Power comes on and my moral grandstanding leaves my body

[wheat sphinx]

He's a sigma male...

[tender horizon]

I'm ngl I agree with this tho

[stable path]

me saying i dont like kanye until the song where he talks about sucking off his cousin comes on

[ancient violet]

Watsuki?

[wheat sphinx]

who

[tender horizon]

If the artist is morally reprenshible I can't enjoy their art via association normally

[stable path]

my stance is once they die its basically ok

[hazy kestrel]

Yeah, plenty of artists that are shitty people out there, best to avoid them and their works entirely imo.

But that’s just my view

[ancient violet]

It's not really about enjoying it

But when you consume the medium you either give them money or help platform their work, which in turn makes them money anyways

[hazy kestrel]

This

[wheat sphinx]

Aren't they dead 90% of the time

[lyric basin]

ITS BACK UP GET BACK TO ATOMA

[ancient violet]

Like I'm sorry but there are much more important things in life than not being able to read one manga 💀

[tender horizon]

I agree with that too

[ancient violet]

This isn't like boycotting the food industry where you need to eat to survive

This is a literal drawing

[dapper mantle]

Kayne is alive
So is JK Rowling
Ayn Rand has a whole institution with questionable motives

[hazy kestrel]

Well their descendants are still getting the proceeds most likely, so I’d rather not keep making them richer lmao.

[wheat sphinx]

Who is Ayn Rand

[ancient violet]

People absolutely folded when Hogwarts legacy got released 💀

[stable path]

i literally have queer friends who purchased that game retail

[dapper mantle]

But then again, I'm not opposed to listening to the work and ignore the author

[tender horizon]

Rabbit hole ass question

[ancient violet]

Apparently paying $60 is more important than acknowledging my existence 👏

[dapper mantle]

She was a writer promoting the idea of "virtuous selfishness" and rampant capitalism ideals.

[wheat sphinx]

Oh the "Greed is good" people?

ew

[ancient violet]

Consume Bioshock content to reverse boycott 😈

[tender horizon]

Im gonna be honest moral issues aside that game kinda just sucks

[stable path]

anyways the best thing to do is just being built different and having the vision to only enjoy work created by non problematic artists

[wheat sphinx]

Dude, stfu, please.

[hazy kestrel]

Lmao you’re still at it?

[tender horizon]

Why in the name of whatever higher power you believe in would I want to play havoc with you when I just watched you complain about it for 15 minutes

Clearly that's a winning run

[wheat sphinx]

Maybe he just wants to get carreid

carried

[dapper mantle]

He's just spiteful at this time lol

[wheat sphinx]

also Steam is back up!!

[stable path]

havoc on this

[hazy kestrel]

“Why would I want to play any game with you” fixed that for ya pal

[surreal ermine]

bros on that diabolical havoc 1

[whole glade]

Pretty goog, washing it down with a coke before heading back to work

[stable path]

i wish darktide was a f2P gacha game

[hallow cairn]

gatcha and f2p ?

contradiction

[whole glade]

OOOOO do i smell drama

[hallow cairn]

paradoxal game

[stable path]

gachas are f2P wym

[lapis spear]

Lol this guy is so mad he is trying to ragebait people into carrying him through havoc

[wheat sphinx]

@whole gladeWhat's your pfp?

[ocean widget]

gachas are F2P mate

[hazy kestrel]

What are you babbling about pal

[ocean widget]

they're not free to win

who is we
you speaking french?

[stable path]

just packed ultra SSR admech waifu 👍

[green beacon]

jesse wtf are you talking about
the new 5* zola just dropped we have to roll for her

[stable path]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling-old-man-news-the-simpsons-gif-17741451

embed fail

[stable path]

crazy i just rewatched BB w my gf and now were watching bcs

[ocean widget]

not french

[green beacon]

oui

[hazy kestrel]

Go take a walk pal, it’s good for your health.

[stable path]

i like that this server seems to be very lightly moderated for an official server

[ocean widget]

yeah
i do speak not french since english is not french

[green beacon]

oui oui hon hon hon mon keigh

[hazy kestrel]

Ragebaiting on the other hand, is not doing you any favors

[ocean widget]

its not even ragebaiting though

its just incompetence

[hazy kestrel]

Lmao, true

I won I guess

[wheat sphinx]

Holy shit the sigma male "I blocked you"

[stable path]

let me break it down for u

[ocean widget]

and you need to learn a lot more people speak not french than french

[stable path]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-dancing-dance-sonic-the-hedgehog-break-down-dance-gif-16311349

embed fail...

[wheat sphinx]

We could really say that they are a Disingenuous Dense Motherfucker...

[hazy kestrel]

Lmao, he actually blocked me, that’s hilarious.

[green beacon]

150 pulls in and i havent gotten a single UR wolfer ts so ass 💔

[stable path]

its all in ur mind

[ocean widget]

wrong person

[weary drum]

Who blocked you!?!?! 😮

[dapper mantle]

consider it a blessing. honestly people should keep ignoring this clown like we did for the last 10 minutes

[ocean widget]

https://tenor.com/view/darkviperau-get-real-meme-gif-20233743

[hazy kestrel]

This Kara clown

[stable path]

u got semen tics buddy 🫵 😹

[wheat sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/iamthedanger-thedanger-walter-white-gif-2138516143209864780

[dapper mantle]

or ping a mod because this person said enough insults to get banned

[weary drum]

Ooooo Kara angered someone XD

[ocean widget]

how do you know how thick ogryn cock is

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-surprise-mf-can't-prove-it-gif-7408854170742055240

[ornate badge]

Hello, just joined the server today, new to dark tide haven’t even started the game, but am fascinated with the 40k universe 😆

[stable path]

its too late i have already pictured you as the soy world eater and me as the chad ultramarine

[green beacon]

you're in for a real good time
have fun killing the eretics

[ornate badge]

🗿 we will be playing as a psychic

[ocean widget]

its a trick, get an axe

[wheat sphinx]

Horrible time to join, we have a Disingenuous Dense Motherfucker currently ragebaiting, and no it's not the person known as "Disingenuous Dense Motherfucker"

[ornate badge]

One that hasn’t been fed to the emperor of course

[orchid skiff]

what is happening here

[hazy kestrel]

Welcome pal, you’d probably be better off asking your lore questions in the Lorechat subgroup. General chat is on fire again

[stable path]

lebron might retire this year

[orchid skiff]

is the steam ddos affecting people mental

[green beacon]

legoat will never retire

[orchid skiff]

lebum should have never started

[ocean widget]

only karas

[ornate badge]

I’ll be alright i don’t plan of fighting anyone on here today 😂🙏

[stable path]

hes announcing something big soon...

[hazy kestrel]

Kara is failing to ragebait us over havoc or something idk, they also blocked me lmao

[ocean widget]

today?

[green beacon]

its his pregnancy

[stable path]

cant let you speak on my king like that...

[ornate badge]

Never if I can help it 🗿💪

[green beacon]

🫃

[orchid skiff]

you can fight me i'm not very strong

[surreal ermine]

the class channels are big helpful for class tips and such, theres a lot of weird little things in this game so it never hurts to ask
#psyker-class

[ornate badge]

Hahaha

[ocean widget]

have you considered changing your name then

[green beacon]

psyker especially has a bunch of specific stuff they do

[ornate badge]

Yeah I’ll be watching some psyker vids before I start the game, just finished downloading it today

[stable path]

⁉️

[dapper mantle]

moments like this I miss Darcy. she was so much more fun to talk to than this peson.

[hazy kestrel]

Yikes

[ocean widget]

you're not even right
"beloved
Kara is a girl's name with Italian origins. This name is a modern, American spelling of the Italian term of endearment cara. Meaning "beloved" or "dear," it's always a good choice for baby and will remind them of their parent's love for their whole life."

also accuses me of racism then goes "people like you"

[hazy kestrel]

Also yikes

[orchid skiff]

who is that

[surreal ermine]

giggling rn this chat is hilarious when people get mad

[wheat sphinx]

<@&735928989146939404> Hey so do you think this massive act of ragebaiting is ban worthy? It's getting quite annoying. Sorry for the ping mates.

[green beacon]

the lebron subplot:

[ocean widget]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_(name)

[dapper mantle]

ask zealot chat who Darcy is
she used to be a regular here who has some hot takes
but at least she was entertaining lol

[wheat sphinx]

Based Psyker main

[stable path]

turkish is only spoken by turkish people

i cant

[hazy kestrel]

Lmao what

[stable path]

lmfaooo

[ornate badge]

The Big E can be considered a Psyker, just trying to follow in his footsteps 🗿💪

[dapper mantle]

godwin's law in full effect kek

[wheat sphinx]

You'd also love Zealot then

[stable path]

these stupid havoc enjoying nazis

[orchid skiff]

"1984 is maybe hitler" ok i see

[wheat sphinx]

Wut

[tender horizon]

You have toxoplasmosis

[ornate badge]

I was thinking between Those 2 but having kickass chaos powers seems fun

[orchid skiff]

because i eat pussy daily

[stable path]

its always a guy like u on public discord servers that somehow manages to pit the whole chat against them in 5 minutes

[dapper mantle]

thing is, she might actually be completely clueless, and not malice

[wheat sphinx]

I mean, Zealot has such belief in the Big E that one of their "always taken" talents is getting invincibility for 5 seconds upon taking fatal damage, and surviving afterwards.

[stable path]

see this is what happens when steam goes down

[wheat sphinx]

You can argue Zealot has belief powers

[tender horizon]

Darcy is either the most masterful ragebaiter I've ever seen or actually one of the dumbest people walking this Earth and that's what makes the bit so good.

[dapper mantle]

I'm convinced it's both lol.

[ornate badge]

Zealot is cool but i want to walk my own path not simp for big E all my life

[ocean widget]

just realised this dude is using ogryn and abhuman as veiled racism

[wheat sphinx]

I thoughtr that makes you a heretic

[stable path]

careful your brain chair is filling up the room

[wheat sphinx]

not simping for Big E all your life

[thick fog]

be the big man

[ornate badge]

🗿

[stable path]

average 40K fan

[wheat sphinx]

WH be like

[thick fog]

love the emperor but loves the rations far more

[ocean widget]

fockin 'eretic, out the window you go

[thick fog]

and his little uns

[ornate badge]

Oi Oi Oi Oi

[wheat sphinx]

Ay Gears!!!

[tender horizon]

So you still discriminate?

[ornate badge]

Calm down, for the glory of the emperor I will grow in strength 🗿

[wheat sphinx]

My favourite dragon Ogryn player!

[dapper mantle]

I think all classes are fun.
I was a veteran main because of the Boltgun. One of the most satisfying weapons I've played yet.

[tender horizon]

And your criteria for this is?

[thick fog]

Bullgryn set for my character when

[ocean widget]

#general-chat message

[wheat sphinx]

Perhaps perhaps, I finally got an artist for that comm I wanted! And it's free!

[ornate badge]

Yeah this game seems awesome, especially zealot and psyker

[thick fog]

Which one is it?

[wheat sphinx]

It's gonna be my Vet shooting a bolt pistol and gibbing a poxwalker while stabbing another one with his combat blade

[stable path]

i think u got a disability....dis ability to fail havocs 🫵

[wheat sphinx]

obv my sona as my Vet

helmetless and helmet version

[thick fog]

Though funny enough I use Ogryn havoc pants for my sona

[thick fog]

You got a page for the artist? Curious to see

[amber delta]

I don't have a racism problem, my racism works perfectly fine

[wheat sphinx]

He don't do comms yet, but he is my friend

I can DM you his stuff

[thick fog]

Feel free to

[tender horizon]

You guys know tf2 has a ranked racism leaderboard now?

[dapper mantle]

Yeah, I think you just need to play the game to get a feel of each class.
Ogryn used to be my least favorite class because of how clunky they can feel. But now they are my most played currently.

[ocean widget]

i feel like you and tanner would get along ngl

[thick fog]

the entire existence of TF2 is being a racist

[tender horizon]

You looking for friends?

[stable path]

[tender horizon]

Nah like, there's a third party site that tracks who slurs the most and of what variety they are.

[wheat sphinx]

I saw yeah

I hate the TF2 community so much

[tender horizon]

It is unironically god awful. Gameplay is fun tho.

[amber delta]

that's what I'm saying

[thick fog]

huh

[ocean widget]

im going to assume its text only and not vc

[tender horizon]

Thats correct

[wheat sphinx]

You read that corretly.

[ocean widget]

RIP

[tender horizon]

I imagine it would be very, very hard to track for VC

[ocean widget]

yeah true

shame it doesnt tho

[tender horizon]

I genuinely don't know how to articulate that in a simpler way

Its real tho lol

[fair bridge]

holy moses

holy moses i'm trippin

[dapper mantle]

what's your top 3 games on steam chat

[fair bridge]

per user or in general

[stable path]

w most playtime like?

[dapper mantle]

yeah

most playtime

[amber delta]

Dota

[fair bridge]

team fortress 2, vermintide 2, then elite dangerous

[dapper mantle]

oh im glad League is not tracke don Steam kek

[hazy kestrel]

For me, it would be Darktide, Skyrim, and Rogue Trader, respectively.

[ornate badge]

Yeah imma hop in soon just making some food rn

[stable path]

elden ring 457 hrs
monster hunter world 305 hours
nba 2k18 289 hours 💀 😭

[ocean widget]

wheyyyy im not as fucked as you

[fair bridge]

king shit

[ocean widget]

shit i am F76 is my 2nd most played

[wheat sphinx]

Counter Strike, For Honor and TF2

[dapper mantle]

nothing wrong with NBA, I have 300 hours in Back 4 Blood lmao,
yes, that failed L4D clone kek

[hazy kestrel]

I haven’t checked my Darktide hours in a while, kinda worried lol

[dapper mantle]

I just like horde shooters lol

[ocean widget]

deadlock F76 and barotrauma
i must go commit sudoku to restore honour to my family

[stable path]

just take a wild guess buddy !!

[hazy kestrel]

Probably 1.6k hours by now though

[fair bridge]

holy shit october's humble bundle choice is actually peak

[tender horizon]

War Thunder at 2.2k(dont play it anymore), CSGO at 1.2k(don't play it anymore), and DbD at 1.1k(you guessed it)

[fair bridge]

v rising, system shock remake, cryptmaster

and uh... atomic heart

great...

great.......................

[ocean widget]

aint no way its real if atomic heart is on there

[fair bridge]

fym

[dapper mantle]

it is

[ocean widget]

is it?

[dapper mantle]

yeah, I just checked

[ocean widget]

fuck

[fair bridge]

do you want it

cause i don't want it

[ocean widget]

ill take it

[dapper mantle]

for $12 you get atomic hear, v rising, system shock remake

[ocean widget]

just assumed it wouldnt be real cus i couldve sworn it had that one ocean dlc release recently

[tender horizon]

Followed by R6S with 1.1k and Darktide with 1k fwiw

[stable path]

i didnt like system shock remake much

[fair bridge]

can't DM you

[tender horizon]

I also do not play R6S anymore lol

[fair bridge]

fix that

[ocean widget]

i've popped u a friend request

[ocean widget]

as someone who also used to play R6S

[fair bridge]

IGNORED

[ocean widget]

i dont blame you

[ocean widget]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

[stable path]

embed fail...

[ocean widget]

if only i could disintegrate

[dapper mantle]

I can't get into tac shooter... It's too twitchy for me.
maybe im old 😭

[tender horizon]

It got less and less tacticool as time went on and stopped feeling like A Game For Me.

[orchid skiff]

all i do is win win win no matter what

[stable path]

embed fail punishment is a 2 hours video call with kara_pabuc

[tender horizon]

I played it semi competitively as a late teen

[ocean widget]

well yeah theres like 8 people on rn

[fair bridge]

do you want the system shock remake

[ocean widget]

not 40k

[fair bridge]

i already have it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ocean widget]

yeah blame streamers n the devs for that one

[tender horizon]

Old age and treachery will always beat youth and skill.

The older I get the less I try to shoot people in the front.

[orchid skiff]

no thank you
also this is my friend's review
0.0 hrs last two weeks / 26.7 hrs on record (6.2 hrs at review time)
Posted: 5 Jun, 2024 @ 8:22pm
Updated: 7 Jun, 2024 @ 8:17am

The fighting is bad, map is a maze and I m not a puzzle guy but the puzzles felt like a waste of time. The hacking phases in the virtual world are not really something I m looking forward to but at least they are short.
The atmosphere is good though.
So basicaly if you are a fan of the original and/or you are all about atmosphere then you ll probably like it otherwise I doubt it.

PS: running back and forth and in circles, nice hamster simulator

[tender horizon]

Oh I do, don't worry.

[fair bridge]

your friend is a freak that will run through SHODAN's maze like a good little rat

[gaunt wind]

R6S fell off hard

[fair bridge]

the fighting is not bad, the map is not a maze because they GIVE YOU A MAP

[dapper mantle]

I grew up with RTS...
if only I pivot to Unreal Tournament when I was younger, but Starcraft BW and Red Alert 2 were too good 😭

[tender horizon]

Imo R6S fell off as soon as they stopped having Favela in rotation

[stable path]

yea sys shock remke isnt great, there are much better imsims

[tender horizon]

Favela was the single best, most fun map in that game

[stable path]

anyone else like imsims

[fair bridge]

the puzzles are not a waste of time, you are rewarded for doing them by receiving supplies, upgrades, or sometimes getting railed by cyborgs

[tender horizon]

Every wall was breachable, the CQC went nuts on it

[fair bridge]

if that guy thinks that's bad wait till he tries to play system shock 2

[tender horizon]

It felt like that the game was made with in mind

And then everyone complained lol

[tender horizon]

Love em tbh

[stable path]

my brother in christ imma be real witchu you've had your 15 minutes of fame it was funny not its getting a bit exhausting

[fair bridge]

do people think having a lot of games in their library is a bad thing

[tender horizon]

Idk

I own a lot of steam games

[tawny grail]

Destruction in The Finals is pretty well done

[fair bridge]

i have like 800

[tender horizon]

That game looks real cool but I didn't get into it off rip so idk where the playerbase is now.

[gaunt wind]

The Finals is great

Underrated imo

[stable path]

yea but finals is like a fast(ish) shooter with vaulting and movement mechanics etc, very different philosophy from r6s

[tawny grail]

Honestly player skill is pretty varied and there is a lot of new blood lately, I don't have any problems getting matches with people who don't mop the floor with me

[tender horizon]

Tbf I also enjoy DOOM

[stable path]

its more my thing but it just doesnt fill the same niche

[tender horizon]

And Quake

Like I enjoy Quake as much as Squad

[stable path]

oh yea i mean from a personal viewpoint fast fps and movement shooters are by far my favorite type

[tawny grail]

I approve

[stable path]

i dont like games like r6s

but thats just me

[tender horizon]

R6 neither has the slow but intense firefights of more tactical "realistic shooters" nor the crack fueled rampages of DOOM

[fair bridge]

@orchid skiff we could be kissing rn but you're frightened of my power

[tender horizon]

It used to be a little slower and more intense but I feel like that got boiled out of it

[dapper mantle]

where in that specturm does DT fall?

[stable path]

horde shooter plus its coop so its different

[dapper mantle]

cause DT is more crack fueled rampage than DOOM tbh

and lowkey DOOM is kinda boring 😳

[tender horizon]

Darktide for me is a dopamine producer in the vein of balls to the walls adrenaline dumps

[dapper mantle]

at least Doom 2016

[fair bridge]

eternal was fun

i've heard dark ages is kinda boring

[stable path]

eternal is one my favorite games of all time tbh

[whole glade]

Smile Dawg, my fav creepypasta, its just a dawg with its its head upside down with a knife in its mouth

[stable path]

like top 15

[gaunt wind]

Ive enjoyed all of the new Doom games personally

[dapper mantle]

is Eternal better than 2016?

[tender horizon]

DOOM 2016 is cool if you want to hold W and shoot a super shotgun but DOOM Eternal is like, a stupidly fun game imo

[wheat sphinx]

ooo

[dapper mantle]

okay maybe I shouldn't judge Eternal too harshly kek

[tender horizon]

Eternal forces you to play combat in the way it wants you to, it incentivizes Quake esque hot swaps and what not

[stable path]

for me yea but some people dont like how it turned into a full on movement shooter with combo based gameplay. For me it really hits the spot

[whole glade]

yuh

[fair bridge]

eternal is the true quake remake

[tender horizon]

If you like Eternal you really like it

If you like 2016 cause power fantasy you probably wont like eternal

[ancient violet]

Wait wtf is going on? 💀

[oak surge]

it's the best modern doom

eternal

[ember nimbus]

only having like a dozen shots for the shotgun stopped me from playing like an hour in

[tender horizon]

Unironically yeah

[ember nimbus]

not my cup of tea

[ocean widget]

honestly i'd just recommend scrolling up

[tender horizon]

Its cause the game wants you to utilize the full weapon roster, I think its a good thing tbh

[fair bridge]

this mf amazon driver just chilling at the school down the street

what are you doing bro

bring my shit NOW

[ocean widget]

scroll down from here
#general-chat message
@ancient violet

[stable path]

thats actually something that i really love in games, at least when its done right. Its the same with sekiro, the fact that both games force you to actually engage with every system to be effective creates like a virtuous cycle of said systems being carefully tailored for everything that is thrown at u

like dont get me wrong i also love freedom of builds/gameplay approach

[fair bridge]

fuck i forgot to order a new wiper fluid reservoir for my car

[stable path]

when its warranted

[ancient violet]

No I remember that but how did we get here? 💀

[fair bridge]

how does a wiper fluid reservoir get a pinhole leak in it

[ocean widget]

well either start scrolling down or up and you'll find out

[fair bridge]

it's buried so fucking deep in this car

[stable path]

but it can also be a strength to force the player to engage with the mechanics in a specific way to get the most out of the game

[tender horizon]

I completely agree tbh, I love when games have a very clear vision and direction of what they want. They won't be for everyone, but if they're "for you" they feel great.

[ocean widget]

pins are very small

[stable path]

for sure for sure

[fair bridge]

i put wiper fluid in, and almost as if through osmosis it disappears out of it within a week

[ancient violet]

Ok so I saw the convo

I just don't know how it accelerated that quickly

[tender horizon]

Also, my unironic opinion is that the new Wolfenstein Games>New DOOM games

[fair bridge]

i have to take off the tire and the sidewall just to even glimpse at the side of it

[ember nimbus]

now you are just trolling

[tender horizon]

Nah I think they're more fun

[stable path]

thats a step too far for me chief!

[orchid skiff]

no its because ur scared of my freak

[fair bridge]

this is top tier bait

[stable path]

but well i also like dooms artistic direction and setting more and that matters a lot to me in solo games

[tender horizon]

I love killing nazis man

[fair bridge]

carry on, i want to admire from a distance

[ember nimbus]

i dont like what they did with doomguy

i liked him more as a very angry dude

not as some god of war

[tender horizon]

If a game let's me kill nazis its a free +1 to the score

[ancient violet]

I don't think you are quite linking the pieces together

But I'll let you simmer for now

What if I told this guy what the "humanity" identity in WH is supposed to be an analogy for 💀

[stable path]

i mean u got a point but he was already clearly op back then when there was no serious lore

actually its similar to 40k lol, doom was very ironic and for shits and giggles at first in terms of lore/worldbuilding and got much more serious as it picked up popularity

like the pet rabbit thing was basically a joke and people just went with it

[tender horizon]

Its a joke but tbh its probably the best thing the series has ever done to humanize em

[stable path]

oh yeah, its great lol

[tender horizon]

"Doomguy had a pet and is angry it's dead" is a very relatable trait lol

[stable path]

just pointing out that worldwide famous franchises like this just have a tendency to take themselves more seriously as time goes on and u got massive investors and what not weighing in

[fair bridge]

anyway so this is just bullshit. i have to remove the wheel, the sidewall, the pump for the reservoir, the old reservoir, then put everything back in

why do they put the wiper fluid reservoir AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CAR

[whole glade]

would slaanesh give ECs big honkers? and would that mean female SMs?

[fair bridge]

i'm so SICK of ford and their STUPID SILLY GAMES

four fucking plugs for a FLUID RESERVOIR

it's got more electrical connections than the fucking DRIVER'S SEAT

i'm screaming irl rn

[upper parcel]

I don't understand the point of the blue speedloader revolver.

Like, sure, it reloads a lot faster than the green revolver and has more total ammo, but it has a lot less damage, doesn't do well against armor and is not very accurate compared the sniper revolver.

[fluid blaze]

Is it really so out of power scale to add an Eldar Corsair career? I mean the Veteran kills upward of a hundred traitor Guardsmen per Auric run at minimum and in tabletop a Bullgryn beats a Chaos Space Marine more times than not in melee: https://youtu.be/sWCrhd6wOGs?si=pWc6I0xxA8ExS1Fh&t=826

[tender horizon]

Yes but it's one.

[whole glade]

one big honker?

or just one SMs?

[tender horizon]

One tit.

[whole glade]

fire

[tender horizon]

Normally left side iirc

[dapper mantle]

my lukewarm take is that not all gee-dub work nowaydays carry that tongue in cheek sarcasm.
tongue in cheek sarcasm can only sell so much.
some of gee-dub works now do in fact romanticize the militaristic aspect of war.
look no further than SM2
fun game, but Titus has like zero tongue in cheek haha im serving a fascist goverment in it
rather, he's a pretty serious and unironic dude

[hazy kestrel]

Revolver rapid fire goes “clang, clang, clang, clang, clang!” Really all there is to it pal

[dapper mantle]

so yeah, im not surprise when a few people read W40k the wrong way, because sometimes, it doesn't have enough, if any, tongue in cheek in it
it's just grim and dark.

[fluid blaze]

I think what gets lost in a lot of modern 40K fiction is that the Space Marine is not a male power fantasy. It's a subversion of the male power fantasy.

[whole glade]

BACK OFF YE SPOOKY BITCH

[tender horizon]

British sarcasm being borderline undetectable unless you're acclimated to it does not help tbh.

40k as a setting is wildly funny then people go and take it seriously

[stable path]

EC and slaneesh as a whole are completely gimped by GW wanting to keep a relatively tame image and not venturing into truly mature content

[tender horizon]

If i could post pictures in here I'd post that one Adrian Smith EC Marine

[whole glade]

Not my goats at TC, they dont give a fuck

i love how graphic TC is

[tender horizon]

TC feels too

[stable path]

Whats TC?

[tender horizon]

Tbh TC feels like they went "oh, 40k isn't grimdark anymore" and just hammed it up without the humor

[tender horizon]

Trench Crusade

[dapper mantle]

trench crusade?

[whole glade]

trench cruasde

[stable path]

Oh alright

[whole glade]

good.

[tender horizon]

I do like TC art tho, been following Mike Franchina for awhile.

[whole glade]

its a 1914 hellscape

i want it to be fucked up.

[dapper mantle]

I'm waiting for TC to mature a bit more
right now it's has more shock value than legit world build or gameplay tbh

[tender horizon]

I agree with this tbh

[dapper mantle]

but they have a lot more lore now compared to say 5 months ago when I first looked at it

[whole glade]

the lore is pretty sick tho

the rome thing is a gladiator pit for the grail

[tender horizon]

TC takes itself too seriously for me rn

[whole glade]

and the city of the grail

[whole glade]

bc it is srs?

[tender horizon]

Sure but the ideas are so inherently funny that taking them deadpan serious feels

Idk

[dapper mantle]

well is it serious though, with phrases like "church space program" and "heretical submarines"?

[whole glade]

well i love the dark gritty parts of 40k

[dapper mantle]

I still can't judge how ironic TC is trying to be lol

[whole glade]

and TC turns it to 11

[tender horizon]

Exactly, you can't say these things with a straight face

[dapper mantle]

I think TC just needs "more"

[whole glade]

well it makes since in my dumbass brain

[tender horizon]

More time to come into it's own

I am not engaging in politics with you

[whole glade]

i need more fucked lore than art

they do

[tender horizon]

I think TC will be cool in 5 years when it feels more like itself than "hey we made warhammer but it's ww1"

[dapper mantle]

yeah that.

[whole glade]

so it has unique ideas, lore, history, and designs?

yet "ww1 wh40k"?

[dapper mantle]

and I need like a Kill Team equivalent gameplay wise kek
I really don't want to collect minis, it clutters.

[tender horizon]

I will say I love the church of metamorphosis art, thats one of the things they've done that I genuinely think its real cool.

[dapper mantle]

I just want the tactical gameplay and maybe a little hobbying

[fair bridge]

there is no need for this

[tender horizon]

The entire atmosphere feels like they looked at 40k and went "yeah, we can do that too"

[whole glade]

thats the oppisite but ok

[tender horizon]

Someone with a little more sense than you, I suppose.

[fair bridge]

if someone in a public discord does not wish to speak to you, then that's that my friend

it's really as simple as that

[stable path]

My guy just been raging for 1 hour

U are bad vibes

[upbeat tartan]

I kinda get where you are coming from but its hard to make Titus a tongue in cheek character because he is so brainwashed. I think GW just needs to make more stuff from the point of view of the people that the imperium oppresses

[fair bridge]

i'm sure they just wanted to let you know, with finality, that they positively do not want to engage in politics with you, period, and to stop trying :)

if they had said nothing, you would not have known!!

[upbeat tartan]

Darktide is perfect for that kinda thing because it perfectly shows that "so over the top its funny" stuff

[fair bridge]

if anything they were being polite by letting you know that

[upbeat tartan]

whilst also not showing the imperium as good necessatily

[fair bridge]

you should thank them honestly

[dapper mantle]

yeah and I guess you are either shooting bugs or evil wizards who will turn you to dust in the game so there is not much space for subtlety.

[tender horizon]

I want some more games set like Hired Gun is, in the underbelly of the Imperium.

[upbeat tartan]

its a horde shooter and the other less evil factions like tau, eldar e.t.c wouldnt work for that

[fair bridge]

whoever writes the dialogue for the character interactions between vt2 and darktide is absolutely fantastic

[upbeat tartan]

oh absolutely

[tender horizon]

Matt Ward lol

Yk that guy everyone hates?

[fair bridge]

i'm still finding interactions i hadn't heard and they get me every time

[tender horizon]

He did a vast majority of VTs dialogue

[dapper mantle]

lowkey I think arbites has the weakest writing so far.
maybe there is not enough dialogue, or not enough time for the dialogues to stick

[tender horizon]

They're new

Give em time

It took 3 years to really flesh out the rejects

[upbeat tartan]

tbh the interactions with the arbites and rejects is the funniest to me

[tender horizon]

I really like The Fatalist tbh

[fair bridge]

if 40k fans hate him then he's okay in my book

[upbeat tartan]

because its just the rejects saying stuff that would get them locked up by the arbites but getting away with it because of inquisition bullshit

[dapper mantle]

did they tone down the Cadian vet?

[tender horizon]

They hate him for reasons they don't even fully understand at this point tbh.

[thick fog]

wdym

[tender horizon]

Its just crystallized 40k community bullshit

[dapper mantle]

I haven't heard the whole "you wouldn't stand a day in cadia" in a while

[fair bridge]

not sure

i haven't had a ton of cadian teammates

[upbeat tartan]

i dont think hes toned down, he just has more dialogue thats less "CADIA"

[fair bridge]

they're dropping like flies

[dapper mantle]

Where is the enemy? points to the Eye of Terror
Where is Terra? points to the starmap
Where is Cadia? vaguely gesture everywhere

[tender horizon]

I think by virtue of adding more dialogue thats not Just About Cadia you get more variety

[thick fog]

too many dialogues

[dapper mantle]

kek

[fair bridge]

more dialogue

i want them to yap all game

honestly i don't know if it's an issue with how the game mixes audio but whenever the characters talk i notice that some sound queues get drowned out when there are a lot of enemies

kinda sad, i don't want to silence the voices, but i do like to win

[whole glade]

is there different contracts for each class?

[dapper mantle]

on Auric+ there are too many things to keep track of

[stable path]

btw whats the lore justification for sending arbiters along our rejects on these ultra dangerous missions? i know arbites can join a rogue traders or inquisitors retinue, but expandable warband member sounds a bit too low for their standing?

[whole glade]

for melk?

[ocean widget]

yeah

[whole glade]

ah

[ocean widget]

each character gets 5 different contracts

[wooden creek]

There's a dialogue audio trim slider in the settings

[tender horizon]

Atoma stopped paying it's Tithes.

[ocean widget]

not class specific btw

[fair bridge]

the tithe must be paid

[whole glade]

i though it was all together

[ocean widget]

nope

[upbeat tartan]

they work with the inquistion even though they want to take over the operation

[ocean widget]

no tithe

[whole glade]

fire

[stable path]

i see thank u guys

[whole glade]

thats like 5000+

[fair bridge]

that's why one of the veteran personalities says "what's going on? do they owe you money?" as a jab to the arbitrator

[dapper mantle]

Atoma needs Space Marine presence tbh.

[fair bridge]

i found that out the other week and it made me giggle and kick my feet

[tender horizon]

Arby's put down rebellions semi often

[ocean widget]

FS said no

[dapper mantle]

Like what are we even doing here. This is way above our paycheck.

[tender horizon]

Disagree tbh

[stable path]

i dont mind no space marines but id just really love to have a chaos space marine boss fight

[whole glade]

as playable class, not like they are there helping in a different part

[upbeat tartan]

i think you underestimate how common an Atoma situation is

[stable path]

they could be without their power armor or something

[fair bridge]

i'd love a new monstrosity to fight

[upbeat tartan]

a new boss would be pretty fun but i dont know what it could be that isnt space marine level threat

[stable path]

if our squad can beat whats in the game surely they can be a single armourless CSM

[tender horizon]

I unironically would like a space marine enemy. Not like DG or anything but a low tier nurgle affiliated "champion" that's associated with Admonition

[fair bridge]

what are these bitch ass little bugs crawling on my window

[tender horizon]

They can beat one with armor tbh

[fair bridge]

they're little tiny babies

[stable path]

yea honestly

[stuck wasp]

They've said both as playable and as enemies

[dapper mantle]

possibly lol
I know they are all vidya gaem but in Chaos Gate, a single pox walker made an Inquisitor and a Grey Knight warband to divert their course
and in DT, that's just another Tuesday kek

[tender horizon]

The armor isnt what makes space marines scary, it's that they're space marines.

[obtuse oak]

Why would that happen?

[fair bridge]

just got out of the shower

[dapper trench]

No, it doesnt

[tender horizon]

Tbf scouts existed for awhile.

[upbeat tartan]

a fake spacemarine bossfight would be cool, as if the cult tries to make some super soldier or an improved version of what they use on ragers and mutants

[tropic sorrel]

I had a nurgling in my yard

[stuck wasp]

Plague Horrors and Sentinels to start

[tropic sorrel]

Chased it away with a broom

[stuck wasp]

Why do people always want to cram SM everywhere

[dapper trench]

Dude

[stable path]

i mean it does give a major resilience buff in video game terms at least

[wheat sphinx]

BASED

[dapper mantle]

my dudes, Im not speaking from game play perspective, im saying if atoma is actual lore, it probably warrant sm presence

[tender horizon]

Tbh this game doesn't even have a statblock for it

[dapper mantle]

it's pretty bad bruh

[tropic sorrel]

Space Marine Timmy wants to show you his special space marine boys

[upbeat tartan]

i dont think it really does yet

[tender horizon]

Like for SM to be added they'd need an armor level past Carapace

[upbeat tartan]

the arbites are the first stage of it

[dapper trench]

We are looking at a SM 2 Avarax type of situation man

[stable path]

ceramite type armor

[tender horizon]

Yeah

[dapper mantle]

okay good point. I can see this.

[tropic sorrel]

It warrants space marine presence if the author assigned to write a space marine book says so

[obtuse oak]

There are less space marines in the Imperium than there are humans currently living in Rhode Island.

[wooden creek]

We don't have proper reinforcements because the Domain is isolated by warp storms

[upbeat tartan]

they arrived to ensure the tithes were paid but Atoma is still active, people still live there and the factories somewhat work

[regal hearth]

SMs are already too much of a brand icon for WH40k

It's better to just say no.

It's like how Bethesda turned the brotherhood into the fallout faction. Now there can be no fallout without the brotherhood, not even 76

[obtuse oak]

The odds of any theater of war seeing any space marines are nearly zero.

[stuck wasp]

It is a situation where if possible an Inquisitor would request or demand the involvment of SM.
But they won't happen cause communications are not possible, and that Darktide isn't meant to be SM slop

[upbeat tartan]

if Atoma was completely or nearly overtaken that would warrant it

[tender horizon]

If you see a space marine your theater of war is fucked and you are not surviving tbh

[dapper mantle]

which makes Chaos Gate premise even funnier since GKs are the "shiny" version of SMs, kinda

[upbeat tartan]

but it isnt yet

[obtuse oak]

The vast majority of the imperium's wars are fought without space marines

[dapper trench]

I would believe getting SOB on Teruim before SMs

Hell even Skitarri

[tender horizon]

They get sent to the absolute worst of the worst, especially now that the great rift has opened

[upbeat tartan]

i think people forget how rare space marines really are

[stable path]

admech class confirmed

[obtuse oak]

The atoma situation doesn't even count as a war, it's a minor uprising.

[stuck wasp]

Chaos Gate iirc set its narrative around Mortarion
The Inquisitor request the GK cause they know Mort is behind it

[tropic sorrel]

Give us sicarians

[upbeat tartan]

the veteran rejects who have been through all sorts barely saw them

[dapper trench]

To me thats a waste of resources to send SMs

[tender horizon]

Yeah, he goes "it's morbin time" at some point.

[dapper mantle]

all im saying is we need sum armored presence up in this b.
not 4 hobos walking around (who happens to be kinda goated at the job)

[dapper trench]

because guess what

[amber delta]

the aroma on Atoma is quite rancid

[tropic sorrel]

I want the pokeball head ninjas

[dapper trench]

Gene seed is in limited supply

[obtuse oak]

They exist, there's a whole ground war being fought on Atoma

[dapper mantle]

he does indeed morb at some point in the game

[dapper trench]

They literally reharvest dead space marine geneseed to make new space marines

[tropic sorrel]

There's leman russ at the beginning of a few missions

[obtuse oak]

The manufactorium that we keep operational in e.g. the smelter complex mission produces leman russ tanks that are fighting the moebian sixth elsewhere

[dapper trench]

thats a tank

[stable path]

the morbin sixth

[upbeat tartan]

we literally help win a battle in one mission by restarting a foundary

[amber delta]

my ogryn could 1v1 a leman russ

[tropic sorrel]

Yes, armor

[upbeat tartan]

as it gives the loyalist guard hope and they fight back

[stuck wasp]

But they in theory have greater returns (Implant 1 in a SM, and on his death are able to harvest 2 iirc)

[stable path]

space marine amount is vastly incoherent anyway

[tropic sorrel]

@stuck wasp why don't they just kill each other and make infinity marines

[stable path]

there are as many space marines as the authors need to be in a certain place and time

[dapper trench]

@high sage yo this true?

[tender horizon]

Space marines have 2 geneseed. One for them and one to harvest for the future generation. Can't remember if the second one regenerates or not tbh.

[stuck wasp]

Cause the process to make SM is lengthy, and expensive

[ancient violet]

TRUUUUUUU

[dapper mantle]

I'm pretty sure they can harvest alive SMs as well since they grow more gene seeds?
so it's not like a termi armour situation where they can't make more
it's just an attrition problem methink?

[obtuse oak]

There's only thirty thousand traitor moebian sixth, this really isn't a big war. Most of the enemies we fight are zombies and poorly armed cultists, our strike teams are very good so they send the occasional daemon our way which is pretty gnarly but we're just that cool. Other than that this is just Tuesday for the Imperium

[stable path]

they need to grow the geneseed inside them over time before it can be harvested. space marines are in a sense constantly pregnant

[tropic sorrel]

Seems like something that warrants a little bit of doing, you know infinite death machine super soldiers

I bet there's three space marines inside Dante

[obtuse oak]

Hold on they made Warhammer woke?

[stuck wasp]

In that case it would be smarter to make a Vat grown fat slab to grow more geneseed to harvest without killing it

[tropic sorrel]

Warhammer 40K #mpreg

[tender horizon]

There's no real reason to not just keep making Thallaxi tbh

[stable path]

dont look up space marine mpreg!

[tropic sorrel]

Just kill the space marine and get two space marine

[dapper mantle]

isn't that what the demoncubala or whatever that thing is?

[tropic sorrel]

It's easy

I just fixed warhammer

[stuck wasp]

While yes, the Legio Cybernetica is too valuable to be thrown in every battle

[dapper mantle]

you will need to convince rowboat girlyman to let each chapter have more than 1k child soldiers as well

[stuck wasp]

Pretty much not.
Deamonculaba was basically a Pseudo-SM process

[tender horizon]

He doesn't care

[stable path]

yea he doesnt care

this is also some bullshit

black templars, space wolves are literally at legion strength

[tropic sorrel]

They won't do this until GW makes a thallaxi kit 2 in the box for $80 and rewrites the admech codex to require like 30 of them to be playable (they are still bad)

[stable path]

and generally gorillaman doesnt care how codex compliant chapters are

[obtuse oak]

Canonically the Imperium is in technological and intellectual decline and has been for millennia. They barely understand the machines that they maintain and they treat fabrication like ritual secrets, with forge worlds fiendishly hoarding what little knowledge they possess for themselves

[tender horizon]

They already made thallaxi kit 2 for 30k

[obtuse oak]

That's why they don't just "make more" of the good stuff

[tropic sorrel]

And using 30K models in 40K is illegal now

[tender horizon]

Tbf the admech make a lot of sense if you ever worked on a car from 40 years ago

[tropic sorrel]

You go to jail if you do it

[obtuse oak]

They're all religious maniacs to varying degrees

[dapper mantle]

you mean to tell me the book Chaplain Leandros follows are lies?

heretical

[amber delta]

histerical even

[stuck wasp]

If Titus didn't have the MC syndrome/Gary Sue plot armour he would have been executed or had fallen to Chaos

[tropic sorrel]

I heard leandros doesn't flush the toilet

[stable path]

plus its not really 1000 per chapter if were being real...its 1000 battle brothers.... dreadnoughts, all HQ units like librarian apothicaries and commanders dont count, etc

[tropic sorrel]

He just leaves it full for the next person

What a jerk

[dapper mantle]

loop holes smh

[dapper trench]

No

[stable path]

yea its just so many loopholes lol

[stuck wasp]

True, he could also just have died by accident by using that Chaos artefact

[lapis spear]

Leandros doesn't even follow it properly

[stable path]

like im meant to believe there are 1000 ultramarines

sure

[tender horizon]

Honestly UM are the least believable

They wrote the Dark Imperium books like the UM are a legion

[stable path]

gw being like there are 1000 ultramarines but they release 40K ultramarines models per year

[dapper mantle]

what are the "siblings" chapters called?

sucessor chapters?

[dapper trench]

Honestly him and Leondros wouldve either been killed or mindwipe for touching chaos

[tender horizon]

Yes

[lapis spear]

Successor chapters, or second founding chapters

[tender horizon]

Nah

Second founding is specifically chapters founded after the heresy

[dapper trench]

Because chaos isnt really widely know in the imperium

[tender horizon]

There's a god awful amount of foundings

[stable path]

just successors since there are multiple specific foundings 🤓

[dapper mantle]

okay yeah but that's like another loophole o.o
maybe girlyman isn't so smart after all

[dapper trench]

Because guess what

[stable path]

gorillaman is smart actually

[tender horizon]

There are also successors that predate the foundings

[stuck wasp]

Knowledge of Chaos in SM chapters isn't rare

[dapper mantle]

the emperor is a chump who think a supression machine is better than education?

[tender horizon]

I wouldn't even call it rare post great rift opening

[stray willow]

Boo!

[tender horizon]

The Imperium at large has conceptualizations of what chaos is now

[stuck wasp]

Oh yes, post Guilliman returning the secret of Chaos is basically over