general-chat

[thick coyote]

High peril = more crits

[final herald]

A choke that narrow is not for that

Also "triggered" whar

[tight eagle]

lol i rest my case lets move on to actually talking about game instead of ur ego

[final herald]

???

😭

[raven salmon]

the only downside is that I can't hear shit with the high peril sound going off all the time

[dry pebble]

the worst thing about the combat shotgun in this game is the sound design come on its a bb gun

[modern bobcat]

Still gonna stand by the fact someone claiming to be new shouldn't be whining about Arbites getting top of scoreboard in Heresy instead of just enjoying the game and focusing on levelling/unlocking everything through Auric and Havoc before worrying about stupid bullshit like damage numbers

[final herald]

The ego of the average scab sniper as he tries to snipe me from 2 feet away

[tight eagle]

Can we talk about the sound limit being at 20?

[lost eagle]

Yeah, but I'd envision that being maxed out on peril should stop you from casting for the next 6 seconds at least

[tight eagle]

why is that

[elder hare]

the exterminator shotgun fixed this issue, it now sounds CHONKY

[fiery wave]

Just play 300-400 ping. You'll get used to it.

[tight eagle]

nice i gotta get into psykanium to see it

[modern bobcat]

I would only be using and worrying about Scoreboard shit after my build and weapons are complete and I'm aiming for competitive play in Havoc or Aurics

[lost eagle]

perilfx setting, plus there's a mod that lets you cut it off at 50% or 97%, or just lets you have the visual or audio instead of only both or neither

[raven salmon]

ooh

[tight eagle]

i dnt like how it feels lol compared to the Ex

[elder hare]

same for "meta" builds, people wanna try the strongest builds not realizing the amount of work in min-maxing stats and special attack combos

[final herald]

Ppl sleeping so hard on the buffed agri I swear

[fiery wave]

To be fair, if 3 dogs kill everything and you have nothing but maybe a stray poxwalker every once in awhile...

[tight eagle]

but its buffed so it does hit nicely

[modern bobcat]

This is on Heresy at lvl 27 though. At that point I'd just let my ass be carried through unlocking Auric and not complain

[dry pebble]

What you say its true in all honesty, its just that some people are very much "performance oriented" and are attracted to Darktide because of the carry potential and skill expression in the game, all players come to games looking for something different. I came to darktide because i am a left 4 dead and 40k fan, i didnt even play vermintide much for example

[fiery wave]

Probably not a good time or a good experience for the guy without the class.

[modern bobcat]

since the goal is to get masteries, get materials and get the right weapon builds

[gilded crown]

Take me to your leader

[fiery wave]

Still, some people want to feel the game. Being carried leads to incidents like one guy dying 27 times in auric cos hard carried to there.

[elder hare]

But that's true for pretty much any new class on any online RPG, if someone new joins in and they just released a "Slayer" class, ofc the shiny new toy is going to be the most polished and most attractive. Or most powerful.

[final herald]

I mean in general though. I guess it just felt bad enough on release that the generational trauma of its existence wiped it from memory

[dry pebble]

The agripina is really good isnt it? but it does sound like a spring toy gun

[modern bobcat]

That was me

[gilded crown]

Bring me the disco king

[inner sleet]

autoswing feature is useful for darktide?

[delicate vapor]

[elder hare]

yes especially for caxes

[dry pebble]

and if you have carpal tunnel

[final herald]

Like it's really fun to use but man I myself didn't even think about it until I went back to try it again after getting mastery on the exe

[dry pebble]

or tendinitis

[modern bobcat]

I like to autoswing with your wife

[junior rover]

Something I see missing from the arbities is the strongest class arguement here is that, while you guys say psyker or vet can out perform arby its with heavily min maxed builds meanwhile its default random spec arby. The truth of the matter is arby is the strongest because you dont have to tune your build to an insane degree to make him viable he is always good. he plays like ogryn but without ogryns weaknesses. and the hound adds so much insane value for free.

[halcyon glen]

Dance dance dance through the fire

[tight eagle]

LOL i couldn't believe it there are actual ppl stuck on these difficulties

[raven salmon]

eh, it can take top dmg by a fair distance in AM while being totally braindead to play

[fiery wave]

I know. Only oggy and Arby worth touching atm, 2 need reworks and buffs and psyker could use a touch up for a nicer tree.

[modern bobcat]

Legitimately developed this because of Space Marine 2, and it cleared up about 1-2months after I quit the game

[tight eagle]

Heard Siege was a good update

[modern bobcat]

Can't go back, my hands won't forgive me

[fiery wave]

Then again, I get carried to H40 and well, after that, kappa everything.

[inner sleet]

does the autoswing continuosly swing and shoot or does it only do it when theres a enemy in the range?

[modern bobcat]

Carry me to H40

[lost eagle]

we should just go back to zealot shroudfield being busted. that would be funny i think

[dry pebble]

sometimes i have it too due to irl work and the mod helps a bunch, its an accessibility feature that should be honestly implemented in the base game

[tight eagle]

lol i haven't bought it yet my friends have been asking me to give it a try Darktide was my intro to warhammer n im new to the lore but ive been deep diving

[raven salmon]

meanwhile: my newbie friend taking all the soulblaze nodes with no applicators, or making a gunker build with only basic brain rupture to generate peril

[fiery wave]

I don't carry. Ask Hamdol, Ainz, Chaos or Syllo.

[lost eagle]

dont ask ainz lmao

[halcyon glen]

Light work

[modern bobcat]

You will be dodge-rolling * a lot *

[final herald]

Imma get to havoc 40 after I get all the cool steelhead cosmetics

When I have them...I can finally play the game...

[modern bobcat]

on Absolute in SM2 you gotta dodge roll a lot if your team wipes

[tight eagle]

lol with an armor weighing the same as a car

[somber stream]

Grindset

[modern bobcat]

I carried a lot of games just by dodge rolling til my team revived

[elder hare]

not wrong, in an alternative perspective it just shows how the other classes now need to be tuned

[tight eagle]

so ur new

[lime cairn]

So I went from havoc 20 to 29 and I had 1 death is that bad?

[final herald]

On my way to infernobubble 2 arbites and an ogryn through havoc 25 out of raw spite

[final herald]

??

[tight eagle]

idk havoc feels like u have to play a certain way

[modern bobcat]

No that's good

[tight eagle]

it was a question my bad lol didnt add the ?

[lime cairn]

damn

[modern bobcat]

Havoc is slower, and using chokepoints to funnel enemies

[fiery wave]

I dunno, the other three then?

[modern bobcat]

also avoiding spawn triggers

[final herald]

Oh I'm like "tf I even do to this guy" lmfao

No but I stepped away from the game for a long time

[tight eagle]

oh i alrdy do that in Aurics

[tight eagle]

am I new on 300 hrs?

[junior rover]

oh absolutely I dont think they need to remove arby or blow up the fat shark offices or anything crazy. it just goes to show how much the other classes need tuning. I do however think releasing arby as a paid expansion is part of the bad taste in everyones mouth. If the best class is locked behind a paywall it looks pretty scummy. "they're all paid classes" nuh uh man if that was the case you could get the game for cheaper with just the class you want.

[final herald]

I wouldn't assume thats new no

I'm sitting at about 400ish hours (394 to be exact)

[modern bobcat]

Yes. Buff the other classes to perform well and have clearly differentiated archetypes, don't nerf Arbites just because

[orchid skiff]

buff arbites

[modern bobcat]

That too

[tight eagle]

oh ok im about the same man lol well 328

[final herald]

For reference I haven't played since...uh...before they made the weapin grind not dogshit

[modern bobcat]

Ogryn is behind a slab shieldwall

[fiery wave]

Best is oggy. Hands down. Heavy stubber no talents does the job a vet minmaxxes to do.

[junior rover]

yes however 9 gunners just spawned good luck

[modern bobcat]

counterpoint: you're a dancing mousegirl

[dry pebble]

enemy spawn also suffers from powercreep tbh

[tight eagle]

I just want new maps

[junior rover]

the choked arby shotgun does that as well

[final herald]

Generally the way fatshark classes go:

The next class will be pretty good if not niche

The next next class will so so confusingly ass that it becomes a meme

[tired inlet]

This is a plus though

[final herald]

Yeth

[tight eagle]

New maps and a campaign dlc id buy it

[modern bobcat]

Female Ratling confirmed??

[junior rover]

I'm hoping for a tech priest/adept my coping theory for this is that the dog command ping isnt called dog command its called command "companion"

[final herald]

I prefer they don't add any map paywalls and keep it to classes and cosmetics ngl

[junior rover]

perhaps a servitor ally

[thick coyote]

facetanks it as Oggy
Best you got?

[junior rover]

You are not face tanking it XD

[dry pebble]

if we nerf infinite cleave flamestaff, arbites mobility and the whole rumbler ogryn situation then we dont need the 9 crusher 6 mauler wave with 20 gunners in the background anymore

[final herald]

I'm screaming I just want my damn skitarii I NEED skitarii I want a personality that is completely monotone with literally zero sense of humor

[modern bobcat]

An admech character with a floating servo-skull companion with an autopistol would make sense and is lore appropriate

[thick coyote]

Oh yeah
Watch this

[modern bobcat]

then we would have melee companion/ranged companion

[junior rover]

basically arby but just angry

[thick coyote]

[final herald]

Mauler is funny as fuck though 😤

[fiery wave]

Naw. Grail knight was op, but balanced enough, SoT is like arby... bugs made her 1 button nuke maps, Engineer started off crap, now op... Necro is... if the AI behaves.

[delicate vapor]

[thick coyote]

AdMech should have a personality that only speaks in binary code

[elder hare]

A bunch of beeps, maybe Hadron chimes in: "oh how delightful, someone with an above average intellect to converse with"

[final herald]

I want a skitarii that is just doing his job as a living video recorder and comments on everything but it's all completely unintelligible

[junior rover]

I think they've done a good job of letting you play as the enemy specialists, you can match what all of the specialist do with one of the tree's available. save for maaaybe sniper but vet kinda does that with his stuff.

[fiery wave]

Kinda. Needs more buffs for it.

[steep patrol]

Is it normal for poxwalker to apply corruption??

[elder hare]

ogryn already exists with the box of fun

[junior rover]

also gunner sorta lacks a direct counterpart

[final herald]

The entire vet community writhing over lack of hotshot las

[somber stream]

@modest flume Invite when done, Loosh is on as well

Got the wrong Bush, damn

[rustic escarp]

Yes

[fiery wave]

Where our own hellgun?

[rustic escarp]

Normally you dont notice if things go well bc you are mulching them

[modern bobcat]

oh hell yes

Host a Havoc

joiner is Stealth Vet with Kraks

[rustic escarp]

Achlys hs on ogryn is very sniper-y

[junior rover]

Also I finally finished the 50 havoc penance armor set can i get a yippee! 🎊

[round mica]

@modest flume what the actual fuck

[final herald]

Yes

[modest flume]

this game is going to make me drink competitively

[tired compass]

quick question about the new DLC, the price in Steam is just for cosmetics, right? the class itself is free as promised by Fatshark some time ago

[round mica]

all that hard fucking work

[junior rover]

INCORRECT BUZZER

[somber stream]

Got Dc'ed?

[round mica]

@somber stream we literally just completed a mission and as we finished the final objective and was headed to extract the entire mission dc’ed

[somber stream]

What the fuck

[thick coyote]

Yes

[final herald]

Fatshark games are perfect and have no server issues

[somber stream]

"Refinery Delta-17 currently experiencing a high crash rate."

This mission?

[round mica]

that honestly just kinda fucking ruined my mood

[round mica]

clandestine gloriana

[rustic escarp]

There's 3 arbites DLCs - the class, the paid cosmetics, and a class + cosmetics bundle. The arbites class costs money to play.

[round mica]

so i think so?

not sure

[somber stream]

No different

[modest flume]

Different map entirely

[somber stream]

But yes, server is boned atm

[modest flume]

We were at the gate to board the valkyrie

[round mica]

^

[modest flume]

That's how finished we were

[somber stream]

[elder stone]

Holy

[somber stream]

Blue balled

[modest flume]

I think I'm retiring Darktide

I'm genuinely pissed

[round mica]

one dude said “ anyone else legging? “

and boom

[modest flume]

The servers are the worst it's been

[round mica]

we all dc’ed lmao

[elder hare]

that whole mission was redacted

[modest flume]

"Mission aborted due to unexpected error"

[marsh iris]

is darktide finally over?

[elder stone]

If I get dc’ed im just gonna play tfw

[hushed harness]

Hey do Melk's contracts count in mortis trials???

[round mica]

clandestine gloriana

[somber stream]

That was unexpected

[rustic escarp]

Yes

[hushed harness]

cuz I've been spamming mortis trials to farm plasteel and diamantine lmfao

[modest flume]

That makes 3 times in a 7-day period

[round mica]

i’m just gonna play gta online until they fix this shit

[rustic escarp]

I forget what the mission completion rate is though

[round mica]

tired of my games being RNG if i get to finish them or not

[elder stone]

You can’t give up Ogryn

[final herald]

Why doesn't that vault mission show up anymore

I need to finish it on auric 😩

[round mica]

bro, it’s killin me, i’m like 10 missions off from getting budding interrogator title

[modest flume]

@elder stone I am genuinely done playing Darktide, at least for now

[elder stone]

That sucks

[somber stream]

It's okay, i understand

I'd be pissed too

[elder stone]

You guys have TFW?

[modest flume]

It wasn't even a tough mission

But we were doing well

[final herald]

It popping up on my in havoc is why I even remembered it existing, it hit me in the nostalgia kidneys

[grizzled hornet]

genuinely wth could the next class even be?

[modest flume]

Arbites weren't braindead and we were all watching each other

[elder hare]

admech or ganger

[modest flume]

Finish the map, get to the gate and wait for dialogue to finish

DC

[grizzled hornet]

also playing with arbites can be so annoying because they be RUSHING for no reason

[final herald]

It's 40k. There are like 20 possibilities before you even leave a hive city.

[grizzled hornet]

name 20

[wooden creek]

Xenographer, whatever Hallowette's guards are, a secret unknown third option (beastman)

[final herald]

I shall prepare my throat then ahem

[round mica]

yeah we were doing pretty good. i thought i was doing a pretty good job keeping our 6’s clear

[final herald]

• 20 different gangers

Thanks for coming to my ted talk

[round mica]

that’s typically what i do anyways as ogryn

[orchid skiff]

good.

[orchid skiff]

tech priest

[grizzled hornet]

cat companion for the dog

[round mica]

next is gonna be the cyber mastiff with an arbites companion

[fringe turtle]

Why is it that every curio i get that is 420 or 430 only +1 wound!! Where is my 17% toughness or 21% hp!

[wooden creek]

The fabled Children of the Stars gang who all have multiple arms and ridged foreheads, weird!!!

[rigid basin]

I'd like an abhuman as the next class

Feeling a beastman would be cool as a berserker/rogue

[final herald]

Fuck tech preists give me skitarii it's literally what they are for raAagh

[orchid skiff]

catboys

[final herald]

They call themsevles...the "Stenegealers"

[inner sleet]

which autoswing mod do you guys use?

[rigid basin]

Fish boy

[hushed harness]

did Sefoni just moan wtf 💀

[final herald]

Every

Single

[wooden creek]

yeah she does that

[final herald]

Round

[orchid skiff]

you liked it didn't you

[wooden creek]

Sefoni loves you! Mwah

[grizzled hornet]

what if instead of psykers we call them freakers and instead of the warp they use the freak

[final herald]

Me when I moan before accidentally (accidentally) letting slip crucial morrow lore

[wooden creek]

the freddy freakers

[sweet pumice]

He's dancing on the Morningstar!

[elder stone]

TFW is going to be my getaway game when fatshark is being stupid

[hushed harness]

my girlfriend walked in on it 💀

[final herald]

Yeah they should make her high res

[elder hare]

you can tell the tank she is in is cold

[delicate vapor]

[final herald]

But what if you could tell more

[rigid basin]

A nightsider could be a cool other class, but stealth doesn't really fit in this game. Could maybe be more of a tactical class. Same with T'au

[zinc marsh]

inb4 penitent heretek

[final herald]

Tau are not coming to this game bro

[devout wigeon]

you mean a dead one?

[elder hare]

why would a tau want to save tertium with the rejects?

[final herald]

Why would the tau be allowed onboard the morningstar 😭

[spare cliff]

genestealers hard maybe, the tau dont need atoma for the greater good

[rigid basin]

True true, T'au is definitely not happening

[rustic escarp]

Are you kidding imagine how good a soldier would be whose only melee option is the butt of their weapon

[rigid basin]

Beastmen aren't sanctioned, but do you need to be sanctioned to be a prisoner

[final herald]

Ye average vet

[orchid skiff]

not even denying it

[zinc marsh]

tbh its more of "Everyone asking for admech gets the thought of battle servo skulls, I just want placable turrets"

[spare cliff]

add them on april fools and just make them absolute pushovers lol

[zinc marsh]

We already got a class with a mobile summon smh gimme immobile ranged summons

[elder hare]

they invented the tech in game to have friendly AI, that opens the field for minion master classes and placable turrets like a gungineer

[spare cliff]

tech adept servo skull

let me choose a personality for me and the skull

[zinc marsh]

a personality that only you and kayex would be able to notice

[elder hare]

imagine if they use a cherubim servitor as one of the purchasable skins, that'd go well

[zinc marsh]

-# also to be entirely fair: Most/all of the imperium/mechanicus turrets are like fuck-huge.

[storm ember]

I hate havoc 30 I hate havoc 30 I hate havoc 30 I hate havoc 30 I hate havoc 30 I hate havoc 30

[zinc marsh]

-# heretek's probably have something more in-line with small defense turrets you can place 50 of

[storm ember]

I HATE MAGISTRATI OUBLIETTE RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[grizzled hornet]

what are the chances we get a new enemy instead of these maggot filled balloons

[zinc marsh]

we might be getting something funny

[rigid basin]

Can't send photos, but beastmen feel perfect for darktide. The fact that they're not sanctioned means our best chance at playing one would be as an imprisoned one https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/3/3a/BeastmenArt.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20211017185240

[elder hare]

this is the answer to powercreep, new enemy/game types. I want an armored plague ogryn, or a summoner like in VT

[spare cliff]

second hive id say, but the heretics speak about it according to an agitator line so more than likely just more nurgle bois over there

[stuck wasp]

The smallest turrets seen in miniature are Trazior Pattern Sentry from Necromunda, but tbh Turrets are just lamer than having a Servo Skull with gun, and Servitors with heavy guns

[zinc marsh]

give actual strangler enemies instead of >le funny net

[elder hare]

zealot and arby fuming in the back

[spare cliff]

ngl left 4 dead smoker type dude would have fit perfectly

[stuck wasp]

Quite low, honestly would need some that can be allied up with the current faction

[spare cliff]

make it a big frog

[final herald]

The things I want the most:

A combat servitor

A skitarii (there are like 4 seperate possible classes alone between ranger, vangaurd, provost, and various elite)

Vet rework that lets them larp as a naval voidsman or tempestus scion (gimme hotshot las pls)

Uh

Ch.....eese

[grizzled hornet]

fat fish says only one slice of american cheese, nothing else.

[final herald]

I fucking hate american cheese

[spare cliff]

only acceptable on burger imo

[rigid basin]

My first job was working in a fine cheese shop and it doesn't even meet the definition of cheese

[final herald]

I WILL rant about it, do not speak of such disgusting slop

[spare cliff]

even then cheddar better

[grizzled hornet]

same people who like blue cheese

[final herald]

Blue cheese at least as a purpose

[halcyon glen]

Hi

Colston bassets is the best

[grizzled hornet]

what do you mean you hate the plastic square dyed yellow

[tight eagle]

Blue cheese....ugghh

[final herald]

American cheese is ultra processed slop that only people with genetic predisposition to famine have a liking for

[elder hare]

blue cheese has mold in it

[rigid basin]

I hate to break it to you, but that's all cheese

[zinc marsh]

I doubt FS is gonna give me a castellan, let alone a kataphron.

And tbh that comes down to personal opinion. First off how the fuck is a skull even floating with an entire god damn gun strapped to it?

[halcyon glen]

I’m afraid of Americans

[grizzled hornet]

who’s gonna tell em..

[fiery wave]

Magitek. Flees.

[stuck wasp]

Anti Grav tech

[obtuse oak]

it's 40k, dont gotta explain shit

[final herald]

40k has this weird phenomenon where the dumber something is the more lore exists to justify it

[zinc marsh]

....
I mean they explain why they dont use AI quite thoroughly.
Just not everything else.

[final herald]

So you do

[elder hare]

how does an arbites fire an exterminator shotgun with 10 gauge rounds without breaking every bone in their arm? how does a zealot two shot a plague ogryn?

and no stock either

[grizzled hornet]

the power of the lex

[final herald]

Same way the average russian fires a 4 gauge

Grit yer teeth m8

[tight eagle]

They have cyber ehancements like their mastiff lol

[lapis cargo]

Faith in the emperor gives us strength

[zinc marsh]

spite and the lex

By faith in the emperor and a thunder hammer

[elder hare]

exactly, flying servo skull with dakka tracks

[delicate vapor]

[zinc marsh]

I want a turret tho

[tight eagle]

yall got faith they won't ruin the 40k series with Henry Caville?

[elder hare]

i thought he walked away from it

[tight eagle]

He did

then

went back

[final herald]

I hope its good

[zinc marsh]

look atleast it isn't ian watson

[thick coyote]

Who da hell is Caville

[tight eagle]

now he's got creative freedom to make sure it stays on lore

[thick coyote]

💀

[lapis cargo]

Idk some singer or some shit

[tight eagle]

with the whole Female Custodes

[tight eagle]

He's a rapper

[elder hare]

i mean he's a Blood Angel user, so I have good faith

[thick coyote]

Oh
Henry William Dalgliesh Cavill

[final herald]

They should add a poorly CGI'd votann lady who looks like they're from that atlyss game, I think

[thick coyote]

The bri'ish actor

[elder merlin]

[spare cliff]

a votann or ratling would be cool

[tight eagle]

lol why i literally heard it in my head

[lapis cargo]

British people exists?

[spare cliff]

want to stare up at an ogryn

[final herald]

I got bad news 😔

[thick coyote]

[spare cliff]

yeah no more pov classes planned

[jaunty path]

Yo when are they adding dreadnoughts

[tight eagle]

alright next game coming up stay hydrated ppl

[stuck wasp]

Point of view issue, but Ratling would have not worked even if no PoV problem

[jaunty path]

Honestly they should remove thanks voicelines from some of these classes

[zinc marsh]

that'd probably be the funniest way to bypass the "no space marines" thing

-# besides a primarch

[grizzled hornet]

i don’t see the problem

[jaunty path]

hearing arbiter saying "thanks" DOES NOT sound natural

[zinc marsh]

Just straight up have vulkan appear on tertium
But like still fuckin insane

[jaunty path]

Okay but do you really expect Captain Hitler Cop to say "Thanks" to a reject?

[final herald]

They're not doing that specifically because of the animations involved

[jaunty path]

Atleast CHANGE it a little

[tight eagle]

the lore for dreadnoughts are fucked

[grizzled hornet]

what should they say instead

[jaunty path]

Yeah I know, thats what makes me want them even more

[final herald]

Hitler cop 😭

[tight eagle]

imagine being so badass they dont want u to die

[thick coyote]

Cutthroat doesn't say thx

[zinc marsh]

i could imagine something along the line of "Edict Retracted" or some shit like that

[tight eagle]

they just turn u intoa weapon

[thick coyote]

💀

[stuck wasp]

Yes, but even if there weren't the issue from maps and PoV, Ratling would never havppened, Squats was at some point envisaged, cause they would fairly work, but Ratling doesn't

[jaunty path]

Something backhanded

[thick coyote]

"Acknowledged" at best

[jaunty path]

something rude as fuck as they normally say when they revive you

YEAH ACKNOWLEDGED IS GOOD

[tight eagle]

or "you serve me well liability"

[zinc marsh]

-# inb4 its radio silence with cricket.sfx

[thick coyote]

Yeah that's what cutthroat says

💀

[final herald]

I mean thanks can be backhanded

[jaunty path]

Medium Job, reject.

[final herald]

When maul says thanks it sounds funny as fuck

[spare cliff]

your performance is noted

[final herald]

It sounds so annoyed

[zinc marsh]

"Not completely useless, Conscript"

[ripe tangle]

Good Morning.

[jaunty path]

Yeah but with the tone it sounds like a genuine thank you. Which does not fit the vibe or character of the arbiter

[final herald]

But maul also just genuinely likes good work

[grizzled hornet]

you’re serving your purpose

[final herald]

Even the crazy psyker woman voicelines point that out

"Stop trying to be nice its making me uncomfortable"

[tight eagle]

lol good enough reject

[jaunty path]

"Thanks" is too much, title is everything. He needs to acknowledge that they are below him

He needs to be an asshole.

[tight eagle]

lol mauler such an ass its never his fault for anything

[final herald]

Nah they only one that should be a blatant asshole is the last voice

[tight eagle]

oh u took ammo? DO NOT QUESTION MY DECISIONS

[zinc marsh]

Mandated Edict: Therapy.

[round mica]

goddamn, PirateSoftware is being canceled, and now Hasan Piker? the day keeps getting better

[visual hedge]

I think since the last hotfix my arbites is bugged i dont get the stacks for killing marked elites anymore

[tight eagle]

Noice

[final herald]

The first one understands "his place" in the world

Maul is basically larping as turbocop as hard as he can to the point of beleiveing it

The last one is the one truly drunk on the idea of the lex

[elder hare]

People forget that Arbitrators were usually picked because they were the class bullies lmao in the Schola Progenia. The same dudes to pick on other classmates and beat them up for lunch money

[elder stone]

You and @round mica should get TFW some time

I think its a good substitute

[tight eagle]

Would like it if they released a all female class

[modest flume]

What is TFW

[round mica]

tfw?

[wooden creek]

Pretty sure Cavill never left to begin with

[elder stone]

The Forever Winter

[tight eagle]

like those assassins

[modest flume]

Ah, it's on my wishlist

[final herald]

Despite this they still get heavy training and even heavier indoctrination

[elder stone]

Its on sale rn and me and licht have it

[elder hare]

or sisters of battle

[jaunty path]

He's getting cancelled? For what?

[zinc marsh]

... if there's probably gonna be an all fem group its probably gonna be SoB But like-
Thats just zealot+

[tight eagle]

too powerful lol aren't they in the lvl of space marines

[elder stone]

Isnt Hasan the one who allegedly had a ||terrorist|| on stream and was praising him?

[final herald]

They're probably the second most "imperial" of the classes behind zealot, in terms of raw unfiltered belief in the empire

[grizzled hornet]

wouldn’t adding a new class imply the arbites didn’t do a good job

[tacit terrace]

Do what time does comidores change? I think it’s today just unsure on time

[elder hare]

I think it's the power armor and training

[tight eagle]

It was shaky he almost left according to the things ive read about it

[jaunty path]

Said Terrorist said he liked One Piece. So One Piece fans are in cahoots with terrorists

[somber stream]

Yep

[zinc marsh]

not really.
I'm pretty sure an admech class could be entirely justified by an STC rather than "Oh Votan was a useless shit"

[tight eagle]

Aren't the sisters of battle just in power armor but without all the chemical mods

[elder stone]

This is why one piece sucks

[final herald]

Sisters of battle without the sisters of battle gear is just zealot

[somber stream]

Basically

[elder stone]

The Forever Winter, its fun

another grimdark game

[jaunty path]

Zealot would fold as a Sister of Battle ngl.

[fiery wave]

Replace mods with faith powers.

[wooden creek]

There were MANY things written about it, none of which were anything except speculation and people reporting on said speculation

[elder hare]

its talked about pretty frequently in #theorycrafting. My thoughts on it was to have a sister repentia on her way to getting her grace back

[final herald]

WITH the gear you basically have a !spacemarine lite with warp fuckery going on

[tight eagle]

They can be inclusive with the sisters of silence series too

[round mica]

yes, and he also got exposed for ||getting a passport to germany to attend a brothel knowing there were trafficked children there||

[somber stream]

[stuck wasp]

When asked for sources nothing could be cropped up

[final herald]

[storm ember]

auric level 34, poxburster jumped through a mutie as I was shooting it. wiped 2 of us

[stuck wasp]

So yes, nothing really point to it being the case

[elder stone]

Yeah he's definitely a character, hes a weirdo and promotes bad things

[amber delta]

yo are we doing Hasan slander? why did no one invite me that's my favourite pasttime

[zinc marsh]

i thought it sucks because it takes 200 episodes just for (insert character here) to have a character arc where all that happens is they say sowwy after kicking everyone's ass

[somber stream]

AfD was right

[elder stone]

Common native German thought

[round mica]

we love hating on Hamas Habibibi Diddy Oil Hasan

[jaunty path]

Shoulda dodged.

[storm ember]

what was there to dodge it was stationary

[grizzled hornet]

the audacity of a poxburster always pmo

[zinc marsh]

just dodge bro

[storm ember]

I got "get down mr president"'d by a mindless animal

[jaunty path]

SHOULDA DODGED.

[zinc marsh]

just dont get hit bro

[storm ember]

it was RIGHT!!!! THERE!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

[somber stream]

1 more run to get that Auric unlocked

[final herald]

My favourite passtime is getting instantly sniped by a scab sniper who was shooting from inside a spawn door and dying instantly

[storm ember]

im SOBBING

[round mica]

Hasan is currently under fire by a Florida state lawyer and attorney for some pretty serious shit

[modest flume]

Run from the door

[amber cave]

Clearly didn't dodge

smh

[final herald]

No laser just a gwnuine jumpscare

[round mica]

and i’m loving it

[modest flume]

Let it blow up on someone else

[final herald]

Push the mutant

[elder stone]

yep

[final herald]

[zinc marsh]

just aggro dump on havok bro

[elder stone]

One more mission and then TFW? @somber stream

[elder hare]

castigator stance bro what are you doing

[elder merlin]

Would be surprised if they didnt, just be the opposite of the ogryn class being male locked

[somber stream]

Yes

[final herald]

Ogryn is male lovked because they didn't want to model them anymore. Thats it. Thats the whole reason.

[elder merlin]

Unless they dont wanna do only female oriented armor

For like commodore's

[elder hare]

if theres anything i know about mmos, gooners will singlehandedly make all female classes popular

[tacit terrace]

What time is commodores store change?

[final herald]

Ogryn as it is in its current state allegedly took the entire time that all 3 other classes combined took to rig, animate, and get working.

[stuck wasp]

It's just that GW never made arts of Fem Ogryn, so they're stuck on that

[elder merlin]

Biggest boi takes biggest amount of time to work

[amber cave]

It's a lore reason really

[final herald]

Just for me to put the 50 havoc penance helmet on his face and use bully voice

[amber cave]

no oggy gals in Astra Militumtum

[zinc marsh]

i think we've been over this before
But also we dont want the weird goontide

[celest yoke]

Anyone can help me understand the new difficulty gating.
You need 100 points, but get 15 points per game?
Is there a way to get more, or are you just gonna end up on 105 points every time?

[devout wigeon]

just lose a few matches 16head

[final herald]

I mean according to some lore it just kinda means a slightly different voice and no exposed nipple cosmetics

[jaunty path]

When are they adding a female orgyn

[celest yoke]

Oh, you get points for losing too? 😛

[zinc marsh]

p.sure its 10 (RS) 15 (normal mission) 20 (QP) but i could be wrong and dumb and stuffs

[final herald]

Female bully voice with the steelhead armor would go hard as fuck

Calling someone a runt before chucking a rock across the map to hit a dog

[jaunty path]

Cure to Mutants: Stone.

[final herald]

Im ngl after getting my hands on the branx I never take rock for muties anymore

[jaunty path]

See the crazy thing is I'm technically partially mutant

[final herald]

Heavy them in the forehead and rotate in place for the next one in the 6 mutant wave

[zinc marsh]

negative points but yeah.

[jaunty path]

Atleast genetically mutant.

[modest flume]

elaborate

[jaunty path]

Dad was born with a deformality making his arms short and his hands deformed

[zinc marsh]

insert post-internet quagmire.png here

[final herald]

And he still pulled we win these mutant kings

[jaunty path]

thalidomide is a wild thing

[modest flume]

ehhhhh you're still human, and you still kill in the name of the Emperor, good enough

[celest yoke]

Ah ok. Cheers 😉

[modest flume]

In the grim dark future, there is only human supremacy

[final herald]

In the grim dark adventures of billy and mandy

[grizzled hornet]

time to get blasted and play darktide

[zinc marsh]

dwarves too busy not dealing with concepts such as "tech heresy" to go on about how elves are knife eared, leaf-loving, bead-wearing, piss-haired, no-beer'd, no-beard, spineless half-existances that need to be put in their place (the ground)

[jaunty path]

Yeah but if we're being realistic here I'd be executed immediately!

[final herald]

No not really

The markings of a mutant are often very blatant as far as the imperium are concerned

[jaunty path]

Don't they care about internal mutations? Or atleast genetic ones?

[final herald]

Its why longhshanks are still places, the only ones who have called them mutants so far are random inquisitors and like

[elder hare]

psykers are mutants

[zinc marsh]

Reminder, The Emperor Had Long Flowing Hair And Sigusman Is Fucking Bald And Is Therefor A Fakkin Mutant™

[final herald]

That one chapter of space marines who just wanted an excuse to delete them for daring to fall prisoner

[jaunty path]

I would still definitely be a minority lmao

Hm.

[elder hare]

The Emperor is also like 20 feet tall and is also a super psyker, technically one of the biggest mutants to speak of

[final herald]

Truth be told there are a lot of "non-mutant"...mutants...in the empire

[jaunty path]

Damn, lol

[final herald]

The most you'd get is shot in the head for talking about having mutations

[jaunty path]

But yeah if they're allowing of Abhumans, I should be an acception

[jaunty path]

Yeah lmao

[zinc marsh]

calling the god emperor a mutant?
Thats heresy right there.
Mandated Edict: 20 year rations of corpse starch.

[final herald]

Like if you don't bring it up and call it a "mutation" the average person would be like

"That lass got short arms, odd. Use a laspistol instead."

[modest flume]

I'll make an exception for you, don't worry

[elder hare]

Superseded Edict: deez nuts

[final herald]

If a whole ass purple skinned 3 armed weird forehead cult can exist with minimal scrutiny...

[jaunty path]

Oh, I have no actual deformities, it's just my dad :P

[thorny cave]

The purestrains hide tho

[modest flume]

I'll make an exception for him too

[final herald]

Even less likely for someone to care

[jaunty path]

Not sure if he'd be able to use a lasgun. He said he shot a revolver before I think.

[thorny cave]

It’s like the third generation of em that are out and about. But good point, their models do show a deviation

[final herald]

There's been lore of mining planets exporting purple skinned workers en masse

[thorny cave]

From “regular human”

[final herald]

Mostly its the admech who tend to be doing the...exploitation, as they're the ones who care the least

"Meat works, go work meat" etc

[jaunty path]

Shit he might even have his arms replaced with firearms or just turned into a servitor

[thorny cave]

Ah you answered my next question

[jaunty path]

Hmm

[thorny cave]

Well it’s probably their religious ideology- “meat sucks- put it to work because we value it less”

[final herald]

The truth is, you aren't gonna be considered a mutant until the average "moms against pitbulls" person would find you scary if you were buying groceries

[fair bridge]

[thorny cave]

lol imperial Karen

[fair bridge]

pit bulls

[modest flume]

Hey, let's go against the very thing we pride ourselves on, logic, and kidnap this massive home planet of the Orks to study instead of destroy even though we know the side effects of having their spores go unchecked

what do you mean that the former base of operations to the biggest threat to the Imperium since the Heresy is getting moldy??????????

[final herald]

The moment you pass that line, like having vulkan's skin/eyes, or having like...spikes sticking out of you

Its over

[thorny cave]

But we’re
Like so smart dude, we don’t have flesh, we have totally no weaknesses bro

[final herald]

In vulkan's (geneseed's) case the biggest saving factor is "fuck you we are literally space marines fuck off with that mutant talk"

[modest flume]

Drinking blood, collecting skulls, making idols, all that stuff is ok

As soon as one nail grows longer than the rest? No I don't think so

[thorny cave]

lol having a mental condition that is akin to space marine dementia is too

[final herald]

Okay but what if we know more side effects?

[thorny cave]

It’s not mutanism if the emprah does it

[modest flume]

Also the age old mindset of

[jaunty path]

How long can a space marine live without some kind of dementia anyway

[final herald]

A long ass time

[jaunty path]

Like without literal brainrot

[modest flume]

"I can't take this guy he's stronger, instead I'll bully the seemingly weaker guy instead, but also give myself a numbers advantage"

[thorny cave]

I was being a little facetious, I was making reference to the black rage

[final herald]

Dante is so very much still alive that he wants to die

[jaunty path]

isn't there one a little over 1 thousand years old

[jaunty path]

Damn

[final herald]

Technically all of the traitor marines inside of chaos undivided

[modest flume]

There's also Bjorn who simply does not give a fuck

[final herald]

BJORN MY BELOVED

[thorny cave]

The black rage makes blood angels forget their identities

And think they are sanguinius fighting horus.

[elder hare]

The Charnel Guard chapter go into hybernation for hundreds of years, and are pretty epic

[modest flume]

🩸 represent

[final herald]

We dunno what the fuck the charcharadons r doin or how long they last

[zinc marsh]

bjorn could get taken by the blood ravens and would just be happy to finally get into a fight again maybe.

[final herald]

They're just out there. Doin shit.

[modest flume]

I know that story

[thorny cave]

Blood angels are the best boys. Next to sallies

[final herald]

Peak ministory btw

Everyone should watch burialgood's reading of it

[modest flume]

Giving the Night Lords nightmares, good enough for me

[zinc marsh]

tbh blood ravens are just an absolute fuckin meme

[final herald]

It's so funny as it plays out

[thorny cave]

They deserve it although I feel bad having read their omnibus how horribly fucked up and deluded they are

[modest flume]

"What do you mean you're unhappy with the Imperium and all of its misdeeds? Seethe and cope" -Blood Angels/Lamenters

[elder hare]

We need more info about Minotaurs, I want average chapter warrior strong enough to take on Custodes

[final herald]

Nightlords when the enemy is sharkboy without lavagirl (he is very angry and doesn't talk much)

[thorny cave]

“Our dad totally loves us”

Talos: “you guys are dumb, he hated us and was a piece of shit”

[modest flume]

Tyberos just standing their menacingly

[final herald]

The little exerpt about a techpreist thinking there was an oversized terminator statue

[modest flume]

He's trying to communicate too, all formal and properly

[final herald]

And tyberos is just like

[modest flume]

"Good day, comrade. How may I be of use to you today?"

[final herald]

"Hi"

[modest flume]

But because he talks so low people just block out what he says because they're terrified

[zinc marsh]

look all i'm gonna say
IF the emperor just fucking killed erebus with his fucking mind powers, 40k would be a lot less grimdark

[final herald]

The charcharodons are the dumbest kind of 40k lore and I appreciate them for it

"This is the BIGGEST. SCARIEST. SPACE MARINE."

[thorny cave]

Fundamental logic problem: how would he know?

[modest flume]

Tyberos soloing the Tyranid boarding ship

[final herald]

"He's REALLY. BIG. AND HE'S SCARY!!!"

"He's like PRIMARCH big but NOT a primarch."

[elder hare]

best marine, hands down

[modest flume]

And the other Carcharodons are not even disappointed at the lack of killing

[thorny cave]

Erebus and kor phaeron hypothetically were planning the heresy for a loonng time. They kept Colchis religion alive while Lorgar went through his emperor is a god phase

[modest flume]

They're happy they get to see him in action

[delicate vapor]

[thorny cave]

(Colchis religion = soft chaos worship)

[jaunty path]

Oh so they're just evil and covered in blood

makes sense.

[elder hare]

plus boarding raids and piracy is pretty dope as a SM

[jaunty path]

Do space marines even shower

[modest flume]

Not like the Flesh Tearers

Who are covered in blood too

[elder hare]

in blood

[final herald]

Tyberos keeps his armor pretty clean last I checked

[thorny cave]

Gabriel Seth is cool too

[modest flume]

Or the Knights of Blood

[final herald]

Space marines in general tend to be kind of prissy about the state of their gear in the same way the average screaming cadian is

[modest flume]

Who are also covered in blood, or, were, RIP

[final herald]

My favourite faction is the marines malevolent

[modest flume]

Nobody can be the chapter master like Seth can

[jaunty path]

I like the legion thats covered in body parts

[final herald]

All of the things that people like to hyperbolize space marines doing to "normal humans," they do

[jaunty path]

I think I really identify with them

[modest flume]

He may be an asshole, but he is Mr. Asshole, with the capitalizing

[thorny cave]

Mine is the emperors children (for traitors) / BA for loyalist

[final herald]

I don't know if I have a favourite traitor legion

[thorny cave]

EC have some brutal lore. Tragic af too.

[modest flume]

"Miss me with that heretical shit" -Gabriel Seth

[zinc marsh]

tbf using his mind powers is probably a bit too much of a jump
But like its genuinely a question of how the fuck did the emperor not notice anything going wrong.

[final herald]

I don't actually care for them that much outside if "why they fell"

Canonically the nightlords just made too many lincoln park AMVs

[thorny cave]

He was hyper focused on the web way project. He delegated everything to Horus

[delicate vapor]

my favourite loyalist are... night lords and iron warriors and my traitos are iron warriors and night lords

[elder hare]

the signal reception on his chair is bad

[grizzled hornet]

anyone know what the alt reload on the executor shotgun actually does?

[final herald]

The EC just founds an STC with recordings of diddy's freak offs and thought "these rituals of old are peak"

[elder hare]

Lightning bullets

[final herald]

For the death gaurd, asmongold showed up on the ship for 0.2 seconds 0.0001 seconds after the gellar feilds failed

[grizzled hornet]

gaurd

[final herald]

Rest in peice moety's sanity

[thorny cave]

they raided a planet with slanneshi xenos and were primed for corruption. Fulgrim found a sword with a KoS that begins to corrupt him and take advantage of their irrational pursuit of perfection

[final herald]

I'll mispell it garte next time

[thorny cave]

Whole legion falls apart hellraiser style

[final herald]

(I know)

[modest flume]

Loyalist side, Lamenters are #1 but I have a few runner-ups with the Carcharodons, Minotaurs, and one or two more I forgor

Traitors, I unironically love the Alpha Legion. Memes aside, they have the greatest potential to be unorthodox, which is what makes me tenatively put the Night Lords as 2, because although they also have a similar potential, they spend too much time sulking and RUINING IT

[grizzled hornet]

also what?

[thorny cave]

I didn’t know I just like talking about the lore lol

[final herald]

If u were explaining for the other ppl I take no offense tho

[zinc marsh]

smh he should have just stole it from the eldar.

but just damn emps you really dropped the ball just to save most of your travel time

[final herald]

Do u think khan based his entire personality around drinking white monster

I think he did

[elder hare]

why would he name his favorite son Horus Heresy

[thorny cave]

Oh shit lamenters too. Fuckkkkk I have sinned. By not mentioning how cool they are

[dry pebble]

same reason why i like the death guard and mortarion, they are a self made villain

[jaunty path]

Yo wheres the pony legion

There's a legion of mares right

[dry pebble]

emperor's horses

[vapid matrix]

So chat

[thorny cave]

The point of web way project was to seal off a portion of the web way and move humanity into it away from the chaos gods so he could usher in humanity as a psychic species

[vapid matrix]

When I have gunner damage resistance does it involve reapers?

[modest flume]

I respect that, they're also surprisingly complex

[elder hare]

and then a harlequin came in

[bold raft]

Lamenters #1

[languid thicket]

Finally got that dog skin I wanted why did it take so long for it to pounce on all those trappers and bombers and stuff 😭

[final herald]

Nightlords ship
Nothing is happening
The marines have not moved in 8 days and the serfs, shipmaster, and the rest of the human crew are starting to be concerned

The entire time, "Monster" by skillet has been baring out on repeat, as they all occupy every corner of the ship in silence

[thorny cave]

for those we cherish we die in glory which goes fucking hard

[zinc marsh]

And then Erebus happened
And then Logar happened
And then Istvann happened
And then [LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED] happened

[dry pebble]

good question actually, i think it doesnt? I'm basing this off the wording

not sure

[modest flume]

I love the whole history of the Blood Angels and the duality of "absolute monstrous savages even the Warhounds thought were unsettling" and "hmmmm what is man?" as he sips his blood wine and is casually dumpstering Michaelangelo in terms of art prowess

[thorny cave]

Big time. I think the NLs could have gotten their shit together to be a coherent renegade faction. They weren’t chaos aligned in the sense the other legions were.

[modest flume]

But I especially love the Lamenters, they appeal to me on a very personal level

[zinc marsh]

Where the loyalist 1k sons go that escaped to the one fuckass forge planet go?
Fuck if anyone knows.
Doesn't matter now, Just know that if they ever come back and retrieve their titans Shits Getting Fucked

[final herald]

The only one doing anything at all is a singular marine arguing with honsu via voxnet about shit he doesn't actually know about, specifically just to piss honsu off

[thick coyote]

[modest flume]

Honsou rubbing his hands together and scheming how he can undermine those street fighters Uriel

[delicate vapor]

[thorny cave]

They are one of the few chapters that actually fight for humanity and not the idea of it

Despite incredible losses and setbacks

[final herald]

Lamenters and Salamander's are the average fan's best picks IMO

If someone is new and grossly misunderstands shit point them at either of those chapters and they'll come out understanding "the point" of the setting a little more

[jaunty path]

I think the Nightlords are literally me

[modest flume]

I know a lot of newer 40k fans (People attracted to the game from SM2 or the Pariah Nexus) who are especially attracted to the Salamanders

[thorny cave]

That’s what’s appealing to me about the BAs. They have a very savage and brutal side, but due to sanguinius were tempered into honorable warriors and “beings” in a sense. But have to consistently clash with that duality regularly while keeping themselves, and the identity of their chapter alive

[somber stream]

So uh

[modest flume]

I always direct them to the Lamenters and they go "whoah"

[somber stream]

I post 1 piece of fanart in #darktide-fan-art , it caused a fire

[elder hare]

People sleep on the White Scars tho, even though they do side with humanity a lot as well and are chill af

[somber stream]

There's this 1 legend

Fending off the entire server

[thorny cave]

Not to get too deep but I think many chapters fight for the idea of humanity, not humanity itself

[somber stream]

#darktide-fan-art message

[modest flume]

Ultramarines

[thorny cave]

Few chapters rarely go out of their way to fight for people when the opportunity for it

[modest flume]

Yes, White Scars represent

[thorny cave]

Even the space wolves do it in the emperors gift

[modest flume]

I forgot to put them on my list typical White Scars moment

[jaunty path]

I like this lamenters furioso dreadnought. I think it's me.

[final herald]

Thats about average for that artist

[thorny cave]

They fight against GKs and the inquisition to protect a planet of people

[modest flume]

Chyron? The guy who thinks he's the last Lamenter alive?

[zinc marsh]

space wolves fight just for the fun of it and because they're out of ale

[final herald]

Post mossass

Fire starts

Ppl remember no one cares

Repeat

[jaunty path]

Damn.

[modest flume]

Not just space marine depression, dreadnought survivor's guilt depression

[dry pebble]

TRUE i love the white scars and Jagathai Khan is the most human, down to earth actually good guy primarch that accepts his place as a weapon and general made to fight for humanity and longs for the day where he will retire from war - And his rivalry with Mortarion, the "i'll do whatever the fuck i want and if you want to stop me i'll hate you forever" makes their characters so much better

[jaunty path]

Damn...

[somber stream]

Guy draw everything, and i meant EVERYTHING

Same goes for Kim Jung Gi, artist liberty and all that

[final herald]

Yeah I know

[somber stream]

I don't get why Mossa is getting lit

[modest flume]

True, the simplicity of the Scars and the Khan is what ironically makes them very human

They're just cultured warriors who understand what they do, but try not to to make it their identity

[thorny cave]

White scars got a big glow up from obscurity that was necessary. Before they had a characterization they were reduced and diminished to “Mongolians in space”

[final herald]

I will repeat that Khan is just like the average dude drinking white monsters and doing his job

[languid thicket]

Is the subjugator shot pistol a shotgun pistol or just a fancy name?

[thorny cave]

Chris Wraight I believe was responsible for that

[modest flume]

Nothing like creating the best jump pack assaults or a book of formations or the best seige warfare/defense or whatever else

[final herald]

If the heresy wasn't about chaos khan probably would have joined horus

[modest flume]

They're just "Hey, this is fun, this is what we do, don't like it? My gun doesn't care"

[dry pebble]

The glow up made them one of my all time favorite legions

chapters i mean

[thorny cave]

Just wish the 40K novels being released as of late weren’t such slop like the Dawn of Fire series

[elder hare]

I love they got primaris marines too, they deserve all the love

[final herald]

Unfortunately for horus, khan isn't an edgelord. He's just a dude. And he looked at chaos and went "bro how is that even remotely better than the emperor's plan"

[modest flume]

"Chaos, bro? Cringe, don't @ me"

Although I do have to give a special mention to the Red Talons

[final herald]

Yall ever have that one uncle who smokes and wears sunglasses and is well off but you don't know wtf they're doing

[modest flume]

Those guys are fucking nuts

[final herald]

That's khan

[thorny cave]

lol yeah

[dry pebble]

i fucking love the khan

[thorny cave]

Khan is my Uncle Bob lol

[dry pebble]

wish he would be the next returning primarch but alas, space wolves sell more

[final herald]

Is russ back

[dry pebble]

not yet

[final herald]

I missed smth

[thorny cave]

Sm2 brought in a bunch of new spacewolves fans lol

[final herald]

Oh alr

[elder hare]

Rogue Trader too

[final herald]

Russ needs to get a humbling finally

Please for the love of god

[delicate vapor]

[final herald]

Lion's austistic ass finally learned the concept of "talking to people"

Can russ be next

[thorny cave]

Meh…space wolves need to get someone good on the lore. I read wolftime in the dawn of fire series and was like “oh brother”

[dry pebble]

russ is going to come back with a eyepatch like odin

[thorny cave]

Emperors gift humanizes them quite a bit

[modest flume]

Right on the head. The Revenants were probably the worst fighting force of marines that the Imperium had, and when Sanguinius took charge of them, he said "I can work with this", and work with them, he did. That even now in 42k, their culture is all about discipline and restraint. You may be the best fighter around, but you have to temper it. You are basically the ultimately killer, but that doesn't have to be the only thing you do.

[final herald]

Russ with an eyepatch and now he doesn't act like blonde kurze anymore

[modest flume]

It's also why I respect the Scars too, similar concept

[final herald]

Fight me russ is blonde kurze but loyal and less (outwardly) insane

[dry pebble]

to me russ is angron without the nails and the nuceria incident

[thorny cave]

They were almost like the world eaters pre sanguinius

[final herald]

He's too smart to be angron

[modest flume]

They were worse

Literally no one wanted to fight with the Revenants

[elder stone]

do you guys think if we deployed Doomguy we would retake Tertium

[final herald]

Angron was really nice before the nails

Like almost ridiculously so

[modest flume]

They wouldn't even deploy them at company strength, just a few squads of guys here and there

[final herald]

Brother was maui vulkan

[thorny cave]

That’s pretty bad lol. If no other legions want to fight with you. You got to be reprehensible

[final herald]

After the nails his empathy turned into sociopathy and that was wraps

[thorny cave]

I think in his book he even “calms” people with like an aura if you will

[modest flume]

Nassir Amit, the captain of the 4th company and eventual Chapter Master of the Flesh Tearers, was one of Sanguinius' most trusted confidants because he was blunt and direct

[outer jasper]

Angron kinda sad tbh

[modest flume]

Called Guilliman stupid and got punched in the gut twice

[final herald]

If the nails had been implanted in like

Ferrus manus

Nothing would have happened

[thorny cave]

Cause Guilliman in the heresy was kind of stupid lol

[modest flume]

"Bro why are you panicing just go check for yourself"

[outer jasper]

Well that’s cuz it’s ferrus

[modest flume]

"We can't do that, we have to make sure we don't make mistakes"

[tacit terrace]

Damn it I got exited and thought commodores changed every Tuesday but apparently it’s Thursday

[modest flume]

"Ok, so go check so you don't make one" primarch punch in the gut

[final herald]

Yeah he was almost as emotionless as it gets

[dry pebble]

yeah ferrus would tank the nails

[modest flume]

Ferrus died for our sins

Nothing else to be said

[final herald]

Like he has all his internal thoughts but if anything ghe nails would have made him think more human than he did in general

[thorny cave]

“This guy just created strategies for fighting space marines- absolute heresy even though I’m a tactical mind I could never, ever see that happening as a possibility even though like, my chapter is about considering all “theoreticals” and “practicals”

[outer jasper]

And know ferrus he would probably either find a way to remove the nails or make them entirely nonfunctional

[modest flume]

Mans was near perfect zen and they offed him

[dry pebble]

im sad for ferrus, he is always memed as the guy that died first

he is a good primarch

[final herald]

To be fair no one really had ideas about that for a while

Its a whole lore point w/ the armor

[thorny cave]

And people forget that he died first because Fulgrim going traitor fucked him up

Not because he was weak or a mook

[hard gorge]

Ferrus leads the Legion of the Damned now

[final herald]

"Why would this need to withstand boltor fire lol"

• marines pre 30k

[hard gorge]

which i think is pretty fucking metal

[outer jasper]

Fr?

[final herald]

Wait really

?

[modest flume]

Mr. Iron Hand is now Mr. Flame Hand

[final herald]

Never heard that before

[thorny cave]

Yeah. I mean because Thiel becomes pretty central at some points during the battle for Calth in the story

[modest flume]

I know an apparition of him appears in the battle of the webway under the Palace, no?

[dry pebble]

imagine if he has a flaming skull head like fucking ghost rider

[final herald]

Wait

Holy shit

I need it

[hard gorge]

its implied he's part of the legion of the damned ,in one of the books wherebig E summons the legion, there's mention of a giant with silver arms, referred to as "The tenth son of a dying empire, so briefly reborn in his father's immolating wrath"

also @final herald based Nazrin

[final herald]

I need skull head ferrus who is basically a maxlchine spirit in all but name

[outer jasper]

Fire hands ferrus sounds unfathomably badass

[final herald]

Imagine his most human state is basically as the primarch equivalent of a scary as fuck servitor

[thorny cave]

Only lore noobs do this

[hard gorge]

i mean Perty became the galaxy's biggest obliterator

[dry pebble]

unfortunately most are lore noobs

[hard gorge]

I like to think Ferrus is the galaxy's biggest dreadnought

[modest flume]

Ferrus died for the lore noobs to clown on him

[final herald]

To be fair there's...not much else going on with him

[outer jasper]

Didn’t they do that?

[final herald]

No

There are like thallaxi

[modest flume]

He literally died for our sins

[delicate vapor]

[modest flume]

Imagine a 40k with Ferrus alive

No Heresy

[final herald]

But thats more or less a skitarii space marine in grimdark pain forever

I fucking love thallaxii

[hard gorge]

top 3 40k newbie lore mistakes:

1. KRIEG SHOVEL SHOVEL SUICIDE HAHA SHOVEL SHOVEL SUICIDE LAND MINE
2. FERRUS MANUS LOL DIED FIRST LOL FORGOTTEN
3. TAU HAHA SPACE COMMUNIST HAHA FUCKING WEEBS

[thorny cave]

True, very true. But I mean, in the Fulgrim novel it’s pretty clear he acted out of character and that’s what got him killed. He advanced too far out when it was like a 7 on 4 and they were in a killing field.

And then future characterizations of the iron hands really didn’t get the love they needed

[outer jasper]

Iron hands chapter master is basically what ferrus wanted his legion to be iirc

[dry pebble]

ferrus wouldnt work alive because it would diminish the tragedy of the Iron hands completely fucking up his life philosophy

but i wish his death casted a bigger shadow

rn i mean, not in 30k

[elder hare]

to be fair, they're all Alpharius

[final herald]

One day. One day he'll somehow be a returning primarch. And while many will be pissed off. At least we'll get to know...whatever he is at that point.

[thorny cave]

I think this would have made him less meme able

[modest flume]

1. but they're trench fighters! Why no shovel!
2. Ferrus died for our sins and no one even remembers him, they think Hawk Boy did
3. "Hey, we know this is a really dark series, what if we made a faction that.. isn't?"

[final herald]

Let the dude who wrote kaldor draigo write it so he becomes comically strong

[outer jasper]

Iron hand chapter master making jokes about horrid situations and his brothers are confused is pretty funny

[elder hare]

oh no not Kaldor

[thorny cave]

If they are bringing Russ back. They ought to do that to give the iron hands some shine.

[final herald]

I mean russ is an easy reach tbf

[dry pebble]

you meme but he is currently working on darktide lore you know

matt ward

[final herald]

Yes

[modest flume]

Have the Khan single-handedly destroy Commoragh

[final herald]

I unironically like matt ward

[modest flume]

Just absolutely tear it apart

[outer jasper]

Khan when gw?

[final herald]

He gave us modern crons

I will never hate modern crons

[hard gorge]

I love how SM2 essentially redeemed the Ultramarines in the eyes of newbies

[final herald]

They're so fucking funny

[thorny cave]

I guess. They’ll have to work in the “I’m going to return when shit ends” note he’d left on I’d think

[hard gorge]

people dont remember COURAGE AND HONOR COURAGE AND HONOR SOUP CHANT SOUP CHANT

[modest flume]

I sure do

[elder merlin]

[modest flume]

[outer jasper]

Soup chant mentioned

[hard gorge]

or the fucking matt ward BS of "yes every space marine chapter wants to be like the Ultramarines cause theyre the best and the greatest"

[final herald]

I too used to hate blueberry lore

[modest flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx61xeDV_60

[dry pebble]

our spiritual liege

[elder merlin]

Wake up, @sleek harness

[hard gorge]

"even though chapter culture is extremely different, all of them look up to the ultramarines"

[idle narwhal]

I havent been playing for a year and now the game asks me if i want to skip the battle for tertium campaign. Whats that?

[final herald]

But as far as a "this is just a basic bitch low nonsense space marine basis" goes they do an alright job

[dry pebble]

Ultramarines are MUCH better since Guilliman came back change my mind

[thorny cave]

Or the “calgar is our spiritual liege bit” and all other chapters strive to be as awesome and thrifty as the blueberry boyscouts

[quartz isle]

FATSHARK! ALLOW ME TO CUSTOMIZE GUARD ARMOR AND MY LIFE IS ETERNALLY YOURS 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥 (I wanna wear the Moebian armor but like a more poppy blue)

[modest flume]

Battle for Tertium is the new on-boarding experience for Darktide, the 0-30 leveling experience, which puts all of the missions in "order", with extra debriefing and dialogue

[outer jasper]

All the missions put in order

[final herald]

Cato finally has a looming presence to curb his...catoness

[idle narwhal]

Ah cool

[hard gorge]

I still think the primaris thing is kinda dodgy

[dry pebble]

our most esteemed cato sicarius

[final herald]

Meanwhile Malum motherfucking Caedo in the background

[thorny cave]

You’re not wrong at all

[idle narwhal]

I think Im level 180 or so with this character. Do I need to play the campaign?

[hard gorge]

mainly cause I have no idea why they released A WHOLE SECOND LINE of marines minis when there are other factions in need of minis

[final herald]

Does malum ever say anything at all

[quartz isle]

Primaris space marine helmets look like generic sci fi soldier helmets and are cringe

[thorny cave]

I think they made Guilliman farrrr more interesting too

[elder merlin]

@thorny cave, @modest flume Darktide?

[outer jasper]

No but you can if you’d like

[hard gorge]

but thats cause Spess Mahrens are GW's golden boys

[modest flume]

I'm on a Darktide hiatus

[elder merlin]

Heretic

[final herald]

The piwer of hindsight is unatural and uncanny

[modest flume]

Genuinely pissed off at this game

[elder hare]

anyone wearing a full helmet in lore is just a nameless soldier

[final herald]

Granted most of it is needing to deal with THE WAY the empire is NOW.

[outer jasper]

Just don’t lmao

[final herald]

That shit is so interesting

[thorny cave]

Yeh I can play a match or two. I’ll get on

[hard gorge]

I think if they didnt do "yeah its space marines but better" and instead went with "Guilliman came back and wanted to reinstate old Legion tactics since he thinks theyre needed, also new armor" would've been so much better

[modest flume]

No, Fatshark is the heretic when they make the lobby disconnect at the end of the level, when you're at the gate, waiting to board the valkyrie

[dry pebble]

100% the whole primaris saga was a model refresh disguised as a lore drop. The whole firstborn vs primaris thing is completely glanced over nowdays

[final herald]

So far both...all 3? of the returning loyalist primarchs have gone "what the fuck is happening" after returning

[modest flume]

Why? Mission aborted due to unexpected error 😄

[hard gorge]

like Space Marines went from jack of all trades to Eldar shit, where they have specialized units for every single goddamn niche

[elder merlin]

[modest flume]

3 times in a 7-day period, 2 of them even in Havoc

[hard gorge]

on one hand i think the models kick ass, on the other hand the lore behind it is indeed pretty fucky wucky

[thorny cave]

Hotfix out but they haven’t fixed the damn crashing lol

[final herald]

Also I like primaris

The mk4 helmet FUCKS

[hard gorge]

I do like the inclusion of a near-heretek tech priest though. Cawl is a fun character

[dry pebble]

Two! Russ is speculated and hinted heavily but nothing happened yet

[elder merlin]

Wanna do a low level havoc? @thorny cave, i need one more reward cache for the frame

[elder stone]

The Darktide devs are successful ragebaiters

[hard gorge]

Honestly my favs are heresy-era armor

[final herald]

3

Corvus is

Corvusing

Somewhere

[thorny cave]

Yeah I can run that. If it’s 25 or under I don’t have problems

[hard gorge]

the ones with the bonding studs, the ones with beaky helms, and the ones with face grills

[outer jasper]

Corvus is busy harassing Lorgar

[final herald]

He is now basically a huge crow daemon thing

[hard gorge]

he's in the warp terrorizing the word bearers

[dry pebble]

lmao youre right, Corvus was never gone

[final herald]

Lorgar canonically now gets to say "that fucking bird that I hate" and not break character

[hard gorge]

The Word BEarers have the most cohesion out of all the traitor legions, funnily enough

[modest flume]

I withstood the instant-death flame puddles. I withstood the shotgunner hordes killing you before they can fire again. I withstood the gunners stunlocking and knocking you back. I withstood currency NOT shared between characters. I withstood the old crafting system. But all of that doesn't matter when you can't play the game in the first place 🙃

[quartz isle]

Ok? the first born helmets still looked way better and not like generic sci fi schlop

[hard gorge]

but I also saw some old GW stuff for Chaos God specific Black Legion warbands and those kick ass

Nurgle Black Legion, Khorne Black Legion, Tzeentch Black Legion, Slaanesh Black Legion

[dry pebble]

I think that if they released the model refresh and kept the old helmets as alternatives like they did with the beaks there would have been much less rioting

[hard gorge]

its like their faction aligned marines but in Black Legion paint

[final herald]

The choas god specific

Chaos undivided legion

What

[modest flume]

True OGs remember the original Ultramarines turning traitor and the loyalists being replacements

[elder merlin]

Shut up and get on

[hard gorge]

black legion takes everyone that joins

[elder merlin]

[modest flume]

No

[hard gorge]

so chaos undivided because theyve got a fuckton of differently algined guys

posted in #40k-lore-chat

[woven hill]

i just ripped a fart so horrendous and odiferous i think nurgle would be impressed

[dry pebble]

word bearers should have been the chaos undivided representatives...

they are the heresy

[modest flume]

Have you heard the word?

[final herald]

Bbl i need to take doen ceiling tiles en masse

[modest flume]

I thought everyone had heard.

[outer jasper]

Only the emperors

[final herald]

I cannot

Bear

It

[woven hill]

"hey there khorne marines. i'm with the Union of Chaos Undivided. are you receiving adequate treatment from your chaos lord, Khorne?"

[modest flume]

@dry pebble my man gets it

[thorny cave]

@elder merlin both of our invites have been buggy, I sent one out. I’m guessing it went to the void lol

Ah cool it worked!

[woven hill]

bring forth the bird (word) bearers

[hard gorge]

CACAAAAAAAAAAAAW

[outer jasper]

Hide word bearers, Corvus is here

[thorny cave]

What lvl havoc is it? I got others that can maybe join us

[hard gorge]

its like the scene from The Birds

[elder merlin]

9@thorny cave

Says you arent eligible

[dry pebble]

claim that cache dawg

[thorny cave]

wtf I should be lol

I’m 21. Dukane is holding out on me

[elder merlin]

Now you are

Invite whoever

[thorny cave]

Shieeett they aren’t on

[outer jasper]

Honestly that one scene of Corvus going after the word bearers made me think about the raven guard and now I see them as more than the emo marines

[thorny cave]

Party finder? Or maybe someone in here has some time to lend to serve the emprah?

[hard gorge]

people will talk shit about Krovan Shrike's haircut, but at least he has hair compared to like 90% of the loyalist marines

[thorny cave]

Fuck it well do it live haha

Oh shit lol 😂

[elder merlin]

Welp

I didnt mean to start it

[thorny cave]

Did you DC?

All good

[elder merlin]

I was trying to list it

[outer jasper]

Isn’t he the mf with the absolute emo cut?

[thorny cave]

Aye shit happens lol it’s all good

[outer jasper]

Unhelmeted space marine model?

[thorny cave]

lol I was like “well damn the crashes have started early”

[elder merlin]

I hate how all the havoc reworks took my original 20 rank away

Unless it just goes away if you dont play it after awhile

[thorny cave]

I was at 30, I feel that.

I got sent to 20

Not like they changed it either

[fair bridge]

i played havoc for the first time the other day

pretty cool

[outer jasper]

I’m not touching havoc till they give it real matchmaking

[fair bridge]

i found a game pretty quick just by hosting the party

takes a couple minutes though

[dry pebble]

they are the true emo marines that the Night Lords try to be

but they are just posers

[outer jasper]

Night lords are just edgelords and I dislike them

[dry pebble]

and youre right in that

[outer jasper]

Find me a piece of warhammer media where a night lord wins a fight against something stronger than a guardsman

They’re SHIT

I remember a scene with a blood angel and a night lord and the night lord started BEGGING for backup when the blood angel swung once

Kurze was also mid as fuck

[hard gorge]

Lmao yeah

[hard gorge]

i think thats lore accurate, no?

[outer jasper]

Yes

[hard gorge]

there's quotes from night lords saying that they know theyre shit without the element of surprise

[outer jasper]

And night lords are shit even with surprise