general-chat

[tired steeple]

And also play a ludicrous amount of games

[modern bobcat]

Chinese grandma who runs my favourite yum cha place definitely gets belligerent if I don't give her the correct change

[gray cradle]

The chinese are financing the police agenda

[finite gazelle]

What Impact does?

[lime beacon]

Wave of pro police gamer propaganda

[tired steeple]

Does this game have a wiki or encyclopaedia cause I also don’t actually know what half the stats even do

[lime beacon]

“I love the state”

[tired steeple]

I know the dump stats

But idk what the actual stats do lol

[paper aurora]

Tbh police themed games have been getting more traction too

[elder hare]

If you inspect weapon and hover over stats it usually breaks down what they do specific to your weapon/class

[tired steeple]

Oh hardcore thanks

[thick coyote]

More stagger

[paper aurora]

But that's always sorta been a thing

[amber delta]

I'm calling it crossover inconsistency because it's hard to make it work with all other clues pointing to timeframes of both games

[finite gazelle]

Ty

[modern bobcat]

Sometimes a shovel is just a shovel

[elder hare]

Sometimes we just need to dig deeper

[stable fox]

You know, it's a bit funny that both rogue traders and Darktide had the same update about Lex.

[amber delta]

unless the DLC arbites starts talking about the war on Atoma

[gray cradle]

I do like how the arbites yells “attention fodder”

[modern bobcat]

OwlCat announced the Lex Imperialis DLC at launch with Season pass

[tired steeple]

There’s a tabletop rpg for wrath & glory set on atoma

[gray cradle]

It’s kinda funny

[modern bobcat]

It's likely GW leveraged FatShark after that point to implement into game

[tired steeple]

Fun little fact

[elder hare]

Prolly have arbites minis that need to get sold soon, GW is out here planning

[modern bobcat]

so they could do cross-promotion and release new minis

[gray cradle]

I really need to finish rogue trader but man turn based combat just wears me down

[stable fox]

Still one would assume that one steals the idea from another if not aware of context.

[modern bobcat]

@stark bobcat The campaign is making me kill the Karnak twins you wanna Lex them?

[stable fox]

[tired steeple]

You ever think we’ll get a sm2 crossover event? Maybe sm2 could get nurgle cosmetics and darktide could… uh… I unno

[lime beacon]

I tried to say the arbites aren’t very fair in rogue trader, I got an instant game over and then my computer bricked

[gray cradle]

There won’t be any space marines in darktide

[finite gazelle]

so Hammerblow blessing will give me 125% more stagger at max stacks?

[gray cradle]

Best you gonna get is fighting a demon

[stable fox]

Daemons don't have the true power.

[tired steeple]

No I don’t want space marines

[modern bobcat]

Ogryn wearing Enforcer armour

[tired steeple]

I just want cosmetics themed around them

[stable fox]

And it's Ogryn with brick.

[elder hare]

Skaven or Skitarii next class release?

[tired steeple]

You mean ratling?

[stable fox]

Unfortunately i have been told we don't have space skavens.

[upper citrus]

next classs is obviously adeptus astartes, from the hit game space marine 2

[amber delta]

no, Skaven

[tired steeple]

Ratlings were actually gonna be called Skaven

[gray cradle]

Though ngl, would be kinda funny to have a mission where you have to fight through hell to open a door for a space marine

[tired steeple]

A long time ago back in rogue trader days

[stable fox]

"back in my days..." 🧓

[gray cradle]

And as soon as the door opens you see them get ripped apart by something horrible behind it

[elder hare]

and then the space marine just kills the whole party for no reason other than we were in the way lmao

[amber delta]

marines malevolent moment

[paper aurora]

Rejects look like horus

[gray cradle]

The ogryns would be taller then the marines which is funny

Just barely

[elder hare]

SANGUINIUS!!!

[gray cradle]

Remember, power is dependent on how tall you are

[thick coyote]

Yeah, something along those lines

[gray cradle]

Why would the emperor be so tall otherwise

[thick coyote]

Technically impact

[finite gazelle]

thats OP

[thick coyote]

Depends on the weapon

[elder hare]

I know this is a joke but I genuinely had a harder time jumping over obstacles at min height ogryn than I do at max height arbites

[tired steeple]

I want a fist weapon

[thick coyote]

It makes most of them safe though

[finite gazelle]

arbites shock maul

[tired steeple]

Power fist or just let ogryns punch

[thick coyote]

It's a comfy pick

[tired steeple]

Like no weapon, not even knuckle dusters. Just let ogryns go in with their fists

[gray cradle]

I really would like a punch ogryn weapon

Also, grenade where I just pick up a small enemy and throw them

[elder hare]

And it could just be "Fist" with cosmetics being rings, knuckle dusters, and even just chunks of enemy/food

[frail fable]

I am not at all ashamed to admit, arbitrator class is peak

[elder hare]

Agreed, but eat now before the nerfs

[gray cradle]

You should be ashamed

[frail fable]

Why

[amber delta]

did u pay your taxes

[gray cradle]

Cold take

[thick coyote]

But not this one

Iirc

[frail fable]

SHOVEL!?

[thick coyote]

It's from a veteran of Atoma Prime

[paper aurora]

Peakbetes

[frail fable]

SHOVEL

[amber delta]

Diabetes

[frail fable]

I've killed 40,000 heretics today so, yes?

[thick coyote]

"Silent professional type that was nutty with a shovel"

[paper aurora]

Now they need to make arbites themed outfits for each class

Everyone will look like robocop

[thick coyote]

You can find it on a small pile of corpses on Rykad Minoris

It's not a bad act 1 weapon

[tired steeple]

You know what surprises me

[thick coyote]

But still an act 1 weapon

[tired steeple]

I’ve only seen one arbitrator called dredd

[thick coyote]

You replace it halfway through act 1

[paper aurora]

Ive seen so many iterations or joke dredd names

[tired steeple]

I’ve never finished rogue trader despite the fact I played it a lot

I did actually see uhh
Drudge jedd

[thick coyote]

I'm on my 6th playthrough

[paper aurora]

Judge fredd

Dudge Jredd

[thick coyote]

Grug Gregg

It rhymes with grug

[elder hare]

I thought they did, the "enforcer" armor set that was out a few weeks ago

[paper aurora]

Oh maybe im crazy

[fierce cave]

My name is John arbities

[paper aurora]

Ohhh no enforcer doesnt look like arbites enough

[amber delta]

It's arbitin' time

[elder hare]

waiting for the Wilford Brimley arbities

[thick coyote]

They had to bring the finest drip to match the Arby ones

Except Ogryn

[elder hare]

"if you have arabeetus, you are entitled to some lex breaks"

[thick coyote]

This current rotation is shit for Ogryn

[fierce cave]

The new witch hunter sets tho

[lime beacon]

You’ll miss it when it’s gone

Buy the weird leather toga while you can

[fierce cave]

He only wears half the jacket

[elder hare]

the other half is for formal occasions

[fierce cave]

The veteran has best drup

[tired steeple]

I want that pysker set but I’d rather not buy cosmetics

My gf has bought several. She got the krieg set and was disappointed she couldn’t call her veteran some random numbers

[elder hare]

"Fourtwenty Sixnine, reporting for duty"

[maiden jacinth]

John cop and ferrus caninus

[storm ember]

I gotta get some of the Kayex voicelines, I love the ones where he repeats himself

he is a funny old man and he is a good friend :)

[elder hare]

same voice actor for one of the arbities too

[inland mantle]

Could ask in theory chat I know Frip Frop has aton of voicelines saved

[storm ember]

no way........

[prisma cypress]

I’m in love with Mary Jane

[storm ember]

like smonk smonk or pider man

[lusty falcon]

Am I imagining things or wasn't there blood on the weapons before after you hit enemies?

[inland mantle]

Yes

there is blood

[tranquil fern]

is barber reset the only way to get campaign and orthus offensive

[prisma cypress]

Smeek

[inland mantle]

Might be in a censored region where do you live? Can also add them back in with mods if that's the case

[storm ember]

yall think hadron smokes weed

[limber pivot]

I spent 60k melk bucks and only got one 17% toughness, rip

[storm ember]

and before you say "with what", she injects it directly into her mouth thingie

[lusty falcon]

I don't see any. Went into the Sefoni thing and smacked people but there is nothing

[inland mantle]

Gamble gods werent on your side

[limber pivot]

nope, got two 430 staminas, on the arbites....

[thick coyote]

Nah

[lusty falcon]

Got blood decals turned on as well

[thick coyote]

Probably too weak for hear

[prisma cypress]

When the plague ogryn passes me the grandfather kush

[blazing shadow]

Pls fatshar add some victory pose without the dog for the arbiter

[tired steeple]

That would actually convert me to nurgle ngl

I’d smoke the shit kush

[prisma cypress]

Dubious yart

[storm ember]

green crack nurgling edition

[inland mantle]

Odd unless they changed something there was blood before the update havent touched trials yet guess ill stick my head in there and find out

[modern bobcat]

Getting clapped by Karnaks

hate this battle

[prisma cypress]

Gonna hit the imperiyart and turn into big e

[modern bobcat]

Wish they had redesigned the map for Karnak twins

and made it unique

[storm ember]

"oh we gotta stop the cultists from getting their hands on the combat stims" girl those aint COMBAT STIMS that's NURGLEAN!!!!!! THE MOURNINGSTAR'S GONNA CRASH!!!!!!!!

[torn garnet]

does auric have the same mob health/damage as damnation? or

[inland mantle]

Yes

Just more spawns of specials

And the alike

[torn garnet]

thought so, cheers

[remote ivy]

Wait, what discord is this. Everything is blurring together

[inland mantle]

Yesnt

[limber pivot]

hell ya, enjoying Arbites?

[remote ivy]

Only have mine to 18 but I'm loving the dog, it's such a meme.

Shotguns feel good now too

I'm having a good time

I hope they revert the bug fix on the charge

[blazing shadow]

I wish event gives you some extra Aquilas

There are a bunch of cool things at the shop

[woven salmon]

Im looking for a nice veteran for h30

[elder hare]

only mean ones here im afraid

[analog ore]

Hello, I reinstalled Darktide and I have like... 20 FPS? Did something happen?

[candid holly]

been leveling up my arbites, he's 21 at this point, why can't I queue for missions past Malice difficulty?

[woven salmon]

got any mods?

[elder hare]

gotta unlock mission tiers by doing more

[woven salmon]

yea they changed the leveling system

[analog ore]

Not a single one, just reinstalled

RTX off

[woven salmon]

idk then

[candid holly]

terrible change to be lvl 21 and not be able to run past Malice

[woven salmon]

Im lvl 30 and cant play lvl5 dif

lmao

they wont let you

[candid holly]

bro wtf did they do

[woven salmon]

Im going to do h30 before dif5

[candid holly]

what a garbage change

[woven salmon]

they did it becouse some people couldnt stop bitching about low levels going in to higher difficulties

[tired steeple]

I’ve been playing so much psyker I can hear whispers of the warp

[inland mantle]

Psyker maxing

[elder hare]

Honestly glad sub 30s aren't in havocs/higher tiers, some people even at 30 still don't have a grasp of the game mechanics. had someone upset yesterday cause we told them to stop only for them to facepull a daemonhost and die

[tired steeple]

Me lol

As in

I don’t know what I’m doing

[candid holly]

honestly, this difficulty changes have made level so boring

[tired steeple]

I kinda wish it had a gear level recommendation like Vermintide. I’m just guessing if I’m even supposed to be playing Damnation

[elder hare]

you'll appreciate it at 30 when you don't have a 17 psyker running around looting all the ammo and throwing pebbles

[candid holly]

no i wont, I don't care if people are bad at the game

I'm not a snobb for a pve game

[thick coyote]

Good luck finding one

[fading otter]

Literally any company with a brain would have made it so it didn’t apply to you if you’ve already done a mission at that difficulty lol people who have done aurics shouldn’t be forced back to malice

[woven salmon]

already did, have a good day!

[tired steeple]

Also I feel like it could have been like how helldivers does it

Do a mission on a certain difficulty then unlock the next

That way you don’t need to unlock the next one again

[serene hearth]

I dont like being limited to Malice level missions at character lvl 18. we were running Heresy lvl when this game launched....

[candid holly]

this

[inland mantle]

Did make leveling for returning players awful unless you had a bud that could host aurics for you

[elder hare]

Def dont disagree, best take is unlocking if you have completed the previous difficulty tier

[serene hearth]

it annoying to say the least

thank goodness for having a mate who is queuing me up Damnation

8 maps and lvl 18

[formal wharf]

i will never stop loving the arbite intro cutscene

its just

perfection

even rannick sounds a bit concerned when hes told the arbites are coming

[modern bobcat]

the new cutscene for Wolfer after the Orthus Offensive mission is very good

[astral lotus]

In a game filled of judge dredds we are TurnedBodyCamOff 🤫

[timid lily]

guys, do mods work again or do they still crash the game? (yesterday happened twice to me and had to turn off the mods)

[modern bobcat]

actually gives the narrative some context

[formal wharf]

yeah

your never really told why the 6th became stinky ingame

you had to figure out through other means

[astral lotus]

There's a informal darktide discord for mods where you can check which ones broken or not

[formal wharf]

im now on the final mission to complete the campaign

huzzah

[tired steeple]

I watched this one lady who actually knew the lore and had to learn what happened to Wolfer through her

Need to find her again. I’m subbed to her but I can’t remember her channel

[formal wharf]

im pretty sure i watched her like a week ago

[inland mantle]

One sec I know who you mean

[formal wharf]

she starts of with like "what the fuck is happening with darktide?"

something like that

[astral lotus]

Fuck i know who's your talking about too but I can't remember the name

[formal wharf]

right?

[tired steeple]

She had a lil chibi character with purple hair and a commissar hat as her pfp

Yeah

[inland mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/@Jo_Plays_Games

Here

[tired steeple]

Ah there she is

[formal wharf]

peak youtuber tho

[astral lotus]

That's the one

[tired steeple]

Yeah I learned lore through her

[formal wharf]

shes the reason why i understand darktide

[modern bobcat]

@lime vale Is on the Discord @tired steeple

[tired steeple]

I’m really glad we have that cutscene on Nox Alpha now

Oh hi Jo

Love your videos

[formal wharf]

im still very much confused why the raised visor costs 900

[inland mantle]

Money

[formal wharf]

it doesnt really work though

[tired steeple]

You can’t be serious

[formal wharf]

whos spending 900 for a raised visor

[inland mantle]

Oh but it does

[tired steeple]

You don’t just get a raised visor?

[inland mantle]

Alot of people

[formal wharf]

customer demand isnt that high for it

[thick coyote]

Nuh uh
Fomo

900 aquillas

[formal wharf]

if anything the veteran helmet shouldve been the one that costed money

[thick coyote]

For some reason

[tired steeple]

I could load up space marine 2 and get an alternate version of the helmet I want… FOR FREE

[severe sequoia]

I did, I wish I didn't

But money

[formal wharf]

thats space marine 2 though

[severe sequoia]

Also it's a cool helmet

[formal wharf]

they charge you money for colours

[tired steeple]

That is true

I may fish out money for the lamenters

Since they’re my favourite chapter

[formal wharf]

also they locked one of the most iconic astarte helmets behind a FOMO event

that also needed you to access a third party app

[tired steeple]

Tbf they did say those will come back but that is still

Ass

[formal wharf]

when did the event even happen

it was somewhere in january or december right?

[tired steeple]

I believe so

[formal wharf]

so we have been waiting around half a year now

[tired steeple]

That was for the MK IV helmet I think

[formal wharf]

so pretty much is fomo

they say it isnt but they havent actually readded it

thats like if i was to say to the IRS ill pay my taxes later and i just dont

[tired steeple]

I still prefer this to aquilla shop I can’t lie

[formal wharf]

but everytime they ask again i just do "SOON™️ "

[formal wharf]

true

space marine 2 dlc is much better

[candid holly]

so please kill me I'm so bored running malice missions

[tired steeple]

Not sure what game I like more

[formal wharf]

as in how they offer stuff

[tired steeple]

I do love both of them but I’m not sure what one I prefer

[formal wharf]

as in 24/7

[elder hare]

the fact that there are so many cool armor sets that are tucked away, and we only get the recycled scop/recolored variants for full price always struck me as shitty

[tired steeple]

Also that knife reskin being like, one slight shade different than another skin in order to sell it as a new skin

[formal wharf]

i dont really like space marine 2 tbh

100 hours in and i havent really enjoyed it since the campaign

[normal linden]

After going to one of the current event missions, I now see 4000 extra diamantine on my counters O_O I didn't pay attention to what rewards I got from it, as it's always about the same. Did it glitch or something?

[formal wharf]

the campaign was brilliant but the co-op is meh

[tired steeple]

That’s reasonable tbh

[candid holly]

Space Marine 2 is cinematic as hell but the gameplay is horrendously boring

[formal wharf]

multiplayer is just absymal

theres no saving it

[tired steeple]

I love a good like simple gameplay loop type game? I dunno both these games just have fun loops I stick to and like. But I do see how sm2 would bore someone

[tired inlet]

I actually really love SM2 Ops.

[elder hare]

Events usually give a bigger payout, look at the + exp % and other rewards compared to similar levels without the modifier

[formal wharf]

its alright but long term its not sustainable

i think its worse with how generic mapping is

[tired steeple]

The bit with the flag is gonna be hard to top in a 40k game for a while

[normal linden]

Yea, but 4k diamantine for Heresy mission? No way

[formal wharf]

darktide doesnt struggle with that as it has alot of diversity with maps

it just feels like 1 big lane all the time

[tired inlet]

It doesn't have to be; it's just fun for me to do that wasn't in the first game.

[tired steeple]

Is the sm1 remake any good

[bright perch]

When did auric storm survivor change from 5 to 10 missions anyway? 🤔

[formal wharf]

no

its literally just a resell

[tired steeple]

I also have gripes with saber in general. They’re adding a horde mode but ohh you can’t play as a dreadnought for any amount of time. You just summon them

[formal wharf]

apart from them changing like 2 pixels on a ork's balls to slightly more green

[tired inlet]

possibly with the last patch with auric being the new T5

[formal wharf]

thats it

[tired steeple]

Oh okay. Nothing new then

[blazing shadow]

is there any place to see what things like tear, impact or strengh does?

[tired steeple]

Horde mode is also gonna have some wackass time limit

For some reason

[formal wharf]

their excuse sucks aswell

they blame console players

helldivers 2 literally has hundreds of varied units on screen typically all the time

[elder hare]

Should be an "inspect weapon" feature when you click your weapon in the loadout screen, and if you hover your icon over the stat it should break it down

[tired steeple]

I dunno why games seem to have less content now. That’s not me trying to say older games were better. I get more out of sm2 than I would say, halo 2, but still

[formal wharf]

and as a ps5 launch player ive always kept a smooth 60fps

[ornate marlin]

storm survivor is still 5, looking at it right now

[formal wharf]

same with darktide

[thick coyote]

Games Lantern

[blazing shadow]

yeah but some certain of effects like tear or impact is not explained on my weapon, those are secondary effects of the blessings

[formal wharf]

im pretty sure impact is just stun

[tired inlet]

The Veteran's guide in #veteran-class 's pinned post does a good job too

[thick coyote]

Then Status Effect

[formal wharf]

like does it stagger enemies

[blazing shadow]

thanks i will take a look,

[tired steeple]

Oh I’ll also need to check that

[blazing shadow]

Keep wondering why there is not a codex to see things like that or some lore

[formal wharf]

completing my final campaign mission now

huzah

i accidently restarted the campaign on my vet account

so that will be fun

[elder hare]

the new cinematics are pretty cool tbh, it's a solid change

[glossy bear]

Uprising is too easy and malice too

At least with arbites

[bright perch]

I swear it was at 10 earlier. I looked before they were taken down this morning I wiped at 9/10 then couldn't restart. Not sure if I'm dululu XD

[ornate marlin]

weird that there isn't an auric maelstrom mission always up now.

[bright perch]

It disappeared this morning for a bit I'm a bit confused by that 🤔

[craggy mulch]

Does anyone know how the penances work for Auric Damnation after the change?

[candid holly]

it blows me away how in the same update they drop one of the most fun classes to play but totally ruin the progression system, which they didnt even need to change

[dense crown]

Alrighty, say it with me kids:

“I AM THE LAW.”

[glossy bear]

Wdym

[long sigil]

finally

[glossy bear]

I AM THE LEX

[long sigil]

worth my money skin

[fading otter]

Probably having to unlock difficulties

[glossy bear]

Ah

[thick coyote]

Nuh uh

We fight for the innocent

[candid holly]

im genuinely bored stuck at Malice despite being level 22

[thick coyote]

🗣️

Savant, my beloved

[limber pivot]

yall gotta do the campaign missions

[candid holly]

I have, they're stupidly easy and boring

[grim brook]

It seems like I can change the appearance of my dog, but not the Arbites himself

[grave lark]

nothing like losing missions bc one member of the team perpetually goes off alone and goes down

[thick coyote]

So you couldn't carry the mission

[candid holly]

I prefer that over being stuck in baby missions dispite being over 2/3 way leveled

[thick coyote]

[glossy bear]

They really are

[grave lark]

🙄

[severe sequoia]

Why are you losing missions because one person died?

[glossy bear]

Ah I do that but we still finish the mission with all members full health

And I dont go down

[grave lark]

bc one died, then another went way balls deep to try to save them, its random qp not ppl i know

coulda just hung back a bit, let them be down, recovered lol

[candid holly]

fighting and losing a fun mission is better than getting a free win off of a mission made for people without arms

[severe sequoia]

Oh yeah, if it's pugs then I'll abandon overextended teammates in a heartbeat

[grave lark]

I guess I just typed in here to be profoundly disagreed with bc i had a mild frustration. Got ya

[severe sequoia]

I expect it, too

[grave lark]

Its interesting I've been pugged witht his same person before - and they did the same thing yesterday hah

[candid holly]

brother, it's a game, losing is part of it. You're going to get bad teammates eventually. If you let it ruin your fun, that's on you

[grave lark]

Mild frustration. Just chatting.

Just when I saw the name I was like I wonder if this is the same [persons name] who went down constantly last night.

[lime vale]

Thank you!

[glossy bear]

That happend to me at the end of maelstorm, people kept dying refusing to evac

[tired steeple]

Of course

[fierce cave]

Just solo the mission fr

[blazing shadow]

Do you guys think we would have eventually those Mortils Trials perks on normal games?

[fierce cave]

No

[candid holly]

one can dream

[blazing shadow]

sad, those are very funny, imagine the amount of new builds

[elder hare]

lmao imagining the infinite ogryn grenade spam, DH bodies just ragdolling off screen

[blazing shadow]

the psyker mental explosion chain is glorious

[plucky stag]

is the Ogryn pickaxe still causing crashes?

[stark ferry]

are mods working again?

[severe sequoia]

Always were

[amber delta]

they never stopped

[elder hare]

it's the true power weapon, capable of destroying servers and servitors alike

[severe sequoia]

The secret to having fun in dakrtide is turning the ragdoll count up to 500 and seeing how quickly your pc can melt

[amber delta]

Fatshark add Nurglings and my life is yours

[long sigil]

u did well shark

great skins

i hope next time will good too

[marsh iris]

MANDATED EDICT: DEEZ NUTZ

[fading otter]

Would be sweet as a loot goblin type enemy that tries to evade you and gives rewards

[elder hare]

prolly boosting sales with all the good skins/new strong class release for bigger ROIs

followed by a lull, and then another big announcement for sure

[amber delta]

I was thinking just literally copy-pasted jockey from l4d2, but I'll take anything Nurgling related

[elder hare]

a nurgling backpack would slay

[fading otter]

Dam that would be sick too

[round mica]

Ah man I'm addicted to arbite

Hopped on at 10pm did not realise the time , it's 2:19am and I want to keep playing

[odd cosmos]

I'm idiot. Only played the game for hundreds of hours and only just found out you can right click unfinished Penances, and then track them by holding Tab during missions -_-

[elder merlin]

[fiery wave]

It got fixed.

[elder hare]

A relatively recent change, but not unwelcomed

[modern bobcat]

Did they introduce a memory leak?

I'm getting framier and laggier the longer the game is running

[fervent sparrow]

its always been there

[fiery wave]

That has been there since forever.

Might just be worse now since many doggos.

Well is worst.

It's the first time I hit sub 20 outside of h40.

[lunar plume]

gross just noticed havoc ranks go reset

[elder hare]

Server load is big too, lots of new/returning players. Had a queue to join in on day one, last time there was a queue was the talent tree rework iirc

[tall trout]

Are we able to play the game after the hot fix?

[fiery wave]

Also, Arbites internal name is Adamant?

[fiery wave]

It's playable. Still crashes changing cosmetics on some chars but yeah.

All I know is that one can get a CTD swapping dog cosmetics more than once in quick sucession.

[autumn onyx]

anyone else hate the fact you gotta finish like 20 missions just to get to dam

[plucky stag]

yippee. time to dig

[elder hare]

nop, higher difficulties have felt easier with people who at least know how to do 20 missions versus the power levelers

[autumn onyx]

okay but then people that know how to play have to go through it ? like its not fun xd

[elder hare]

If you have a 30, the difficulty tiers are already unlocked

[autumn onyx]

no they are not

im lvl 30 with the new class

[elder hare]

Preexisting*

[round mica]

The new class is locked I'm pretty sure

Gotta grind it out

[dusky juniper]

is auric supposed to be harder than old damnation? cos it feels easier

[round mica]

Yeah its dlc for xbox

[elder hare]

it feels like there were shadow nerfs to enemies with the new class release, but I have no evidence concrete or otherwise

[fiery wave]

It's damnation, but the AI is less forgiving.

[inland mantle]

Man wtf is the shotpistol lmao I can get it to 6 shot damnation bosses. Granted a decent bit of setup you wouldnt get in most games but 10k boss damage per shot is crazy

[dusky juniper]

feels like hordes are absolutely tiny

[fiery wave]

Expect congalines of specialists since no built in hard cap other than total number of spawns allowed on the map (to prevent consoles and weaker PCs from blepping.)

[autumn onyx]

what do you mean locked?

[round mica]

It might be the modifications your playing on ?

[dusky juniper]

ive been doing HISTGs

[round mica]

Gotta play 20 games or so to unlock auric

[round mica]

That's strange 🤔

[autumn onyx]

dumb af i hit level 30 but now gotta sit and play low diff

[round mica]

Ahh I get what you mean, iv been raising the level as I level up iv just about unlocked auric on arbie

[plain falcon]

I was in a match with the Karnak twins earlier. I went from full health and toughness to almost entirely full corruption in seconds. What caused it?

[round mica]

Were you in the boss fight?

Maybe a bug

[plain falcon]

Yes

[round mica]

Game thinking you were standing in the fog perhaps

[snow haven]

Haii. I am planning to play the game again after stopping it since February 2024. May I know what all has changed or added in Darktide ever since then

[plain falcon]

Happened to me and one other, but our two teammates right by us were not affected

[round mica]

Oo boy ogryns got super strong and we now have angry cops and a new story and the games just getting really good

[shell goblet]

doggies :3 but they're cops :c

[round mica]

Very strange 🤔

[plain falcon]

It’s was crazy af fast. Never seen it before. Wish I could have recorded it. Alas I am not blessed by the omnissiah

[round mica]

Deffs a bug in that case

[snow haven]

Oh damn, so more ogryn action
And angry copes, I assume that's the arbites?

[golden dawn]

is the combat shotgun good? ive been operating underneath the idea its super bad forever now and suddenly im hearing people are using it in havoc??

[snow haven]

What about Psyker, Zealot and Vets?

[round mica]

Iss good now

[zinc marsh]

Problem 1:
Pubs

[golden dawn]

how good? like meta good or just fun option u can use?

[zinc marsh]

Problem 2: Trusting Pubs

Problem 3: Relying on pubs to not behave like pubs

[round mica]

Everyone's playing arbite lately but I did play a game w a psyker and then ran into a vet and ogryn

[round mica]

I think it's viable now

[snow haven]

The police are everywhere 😔

[round mica]

Ammo increase and I think even dmg

[grand bough]

question regarding campaign:
obviously on my arbitrator i am palying through it from the very start. i just got onto my ogryn (Wanted to see if masteries are bugged or if its a specific character weapon) and its asking me if i want to, is there any reason at all to redo the campaign on older characters?

[plain falcon]

Seeing people going down in uprisings while leveling Arby’s, both broke my heart and entertained me immensely

[round mica]

There looking for you
🗣️ HES OVER HERE

[thick coyote]

Fun option

[snow haven]

NOOO

I have not even downloaded the game yet the cops are getting me

[iron sigil]

do you guys expect any arbites nerfs? i definitely do

some of their talent nodes are excessive

[elder hare]

100000% nerf coming

[iron sigil]

they have so many damage nodes that they just dont need

[plain falcon]

It is inevitable

[round mica]

Oh definitely

[iron sigil]

plus the shotgun is lowk overpowered

i should not be one shotting maulers

[round mica]

The right hand side of the tree is absolutely ridiculous

[iron sigil]

No fr

[shell goblet]

time to dust off the ol combat shottie

[elder hare]

new class always gunna eat for sales, then a series of quiet nerfs over time

[iron sigil]

Like its genuinely insane how much they gave arbites when I was reading through the talent tree I had to check if I just saw a typo

[round mica]

And then the blessings going off shock and stagger is just 🤌

[iron sigil]

yeah the stagger talents are fucking INSANE

[shell goblet]

arbites dog can now wake up the demonhost

[round mica]

Oh I go lone wolf

[shell goblet]

everyone tip toeing around it and then ur dumb ass dog comes tearing by the demonhost all :D

[round mica]

I played a lights out mission before today and thought a dh was a gunner , I shot him and then we killed him without loosing anyone

[plain falcon]

This needs to be a thing

[round mica]

Lucky someone had the maul sheild

[elder merlin]

[shell goblet]

i was playin one of those event missions so it was rlly dim and me and 3 randos all almost walked into one, miracle we didn't proc it tbh. after a spam ping, we all did the tiptoe around it, and as i panned back to see if everyone made it i just see the dog run right under its feet and i yelped

[thick coyote]

In 2 months

[normal linden]

Are there +2 wounds Curios in the game? So far only saw +2 and +3 stamina

[shell goblet]

in hindsight, it would've been funnier if the demonhost woke up from that

[round mica]

Only +1s

[normal linden]

crap..

[thick coyote]

Nuh uh

[plain falcon]

Cinema, absolute cinema

[jovial pine]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-5273247718297236208

[shell goblet]

the first time i ever witnessed a demonhost-proof ogryn, my partner and i once pinged a DH for a team, but a rando ogryn who spawned in off a bot walked into it, woke it up, walked to a corner, planted the shield, and sat there tanking it for a whole 30 seconds before we could back track and kill it for him😭

[round mica]

Trying to hack us !!?! 💥

[shell goblet]

which felt, as a new player, like watching fucking captain america or something fighting off a super villain bc before that experience i'd been told "waking up the demonhost is a death sentence and if a random wakes one up let them die" by the person who taught me this game 😭

[snow haven]

Well, regarding my previous question tho: how are Zealot, Veterans and Psykers faring at the moment? Did they get hit with any nerfs and such, and how do they feel now since Feb 2024?

[glacial shoal]

I think vet and psyker aren't doing too bad, neither is Zealot but I think Zealot needs a talent rework pretty bad

[modern bobcat]

You can't nerf a pay2win class until you release the NEXT pay2win class

[glacial shoal]

From what I can tell/have heard

[slow egret]

truth nuke

[tiny shore]

Hello fellow Rejects! I am trying to do a sorta "support gunner" type build. The choices seem to be recon laz gun and braced autogun. But, I can't see a reason that you would want braced auto over recon laz. Is there any way to build or look for a variation of the braced that makes it comparable to recon laz? Between the 160+ shot mag, the no ammo use on crit and how you can snipe things full auto ads, i can't see why you'd pick braced auto gun

[snow haven]

That is good to hear.
-# Still gonna prioritize ogryns, just wanted to know how the little ones are doing

[glacial shoal]

❤️

Runk always need more friends

[tiny shore]

I feel like braced auto gun needs a mag size buff. Recon just seems ridiculously stronger in every way

[modern bobcat]

Infantry Autogun is de way brudda

[tiny shore]

But im looking at it from they eyes of a sorta new player, so I'm not sure

[hollow depot]

Which braced autogun?

[tiny shore]

How different is infantry to braced? I haven't tried infantry out a ton, but I was really wanting something with high cap mag an that's only recon laz

[hollow depot]

I know the off brown one is very good, I think it has lots of cleave?

[loud saffron]

Yo how do people unlock havoc now with the lack of maelstrom on the map?

tryna help a guy out

[snow haven]

I do not know what has changed, but Infantry Autogun would be a really nice pick for what you are going after. Lazguns and Braced are fun too but Infantry is nice in general.

[hollow depot]

Infantry is like a Lasgun, but it has full auto

[modern bobcat]

Infantry has much more control. If you get the level down properly you can spray across your screen at head height and wipe out hordes

[hollow depot]

They appear only in Auric and Heresy

No idea why it doesn't in damnation

[tiny shore]

Okay, how does cleave work on ranged weapons? Maybe braced auto with cleave makes each shot pen more enemies?

[modern bobcat]

Braced auto-gun is fun, vigilant is too slow

Infantry is the Goldilocks solution

[thick coyote]

Psyker is top 2

Vet and zealot are fighting for 4th place

[tiny shore]

Only thing I dont like is the lower mag size. I guess that's the trade off.

[snow haven]

I am not surprised but damn qwq

[tiny shore]

What's the highest possible mag you can get on infantry autogun?

[thick coyote]

55 or something

Vraks5

[tiny shore]

Hmmm

[hollow depot]

Cleave is it goes through the first enemy and carried on to the 2nd (with diminishing damage? I don't believe so but I have no clue)
Rending is how much it can ignore or penetrate defence values, like carapace. Say Carapace defends 80% damage, some rending could get it to 60% or so

[tiny shore]

Can you get to 100 on the braced by chance?

[thick coyote]

It used to be top 1 before Ogryn rework

[hollow depot]

That's not a perfect explanation but if you take it as a simple way of thought, instead of mechanical explanation, that's how it works

[snow haven]

As intended

[tiny shore]

OH wait, so that's how cleave works on a ranged weapon. so then am i right to say the recon laz doesn't have cleave

[hollow depot]

I think so?

I think only the Hellbore has cleave but i am probably wrong

[tiny shore]

So that must be the difference then. Braced auto being able to cleave

[hollow depot]

Yeah, it's a horde clear kind of weapon sometimes but it also has a high suppression value

[tiny shore]

Okay, so then braced auto having that 60 or so mag size sounds better now. Piercing + suppression like you say

[hollow depot]

I would say if you run the graia, don't always ADS, feel free to hip fire it, they're all quite accurate in hip fire

Not a Hit headshot accurate

But enough rounds will fall on target, it's a good tool to supress and charge then enter melee

[hollow depot]

Yeah that brown long one has high damage iirc and good rending but I'm not really a stats guy

Braced auto gun weirdly works very well in Havoc

But it's understandably slept on

[tired inlet]

The Agrippina

[hollow depot]

That's the name of it!

[tiny shore]

This is very good to know. I've been trying to figure out why the recon laz just seemed completely better than braced.

I'll keep an eye out for that. I just have a graia mk IV, ill look out for that other one

[hollow depot]

Try out the braced more, but view it as a kind of heavy 'run and gun'

I suggest testing out mainly hipfire with it, as the mobility you keep and closing the distance makes it real nice

[tiny shore]

I'll do that. What do you think for the curiou main stats to pair? That's the other thing i'm a bit confused on. I get hung up on wounds thinking that means more health lol

[hollow depot]

For the Curios? It depends

[modern bobcat]

Curio should almost always be +20% gunner resist (every curio), +5% toughness, +stamina regen OR +toughness regen

[tiny shore]

This is huge on the cleave thing. I had no clue the auto gun did that, since it doesn't list a cleave stat on it

[modern bobcat]

sometimes +% ability cooldown

[hollow depot]

I'm not in the meta as I run my own little vibe as I like having at least 3 wounds as a breathing wound incase I get downed once

• toughness regen is good

And + health

[tiny shore]

So, even a gun not listing cleave as a stat or something will have it

[modern bobcat]

Health is less important than toughness as it doesn't scale well

If your toughness breaks and isn't being regen'd it usually means something has gone wrong and the additional health won't help

[hollow depot]

True but if you don't have good Toughness DR it can be preferable

[lilac plume]

I cant voice preview on cosmetics

[modern bobcat]

so it's better to build into the stamina regen (for blocking, pushing etc) or into toughness regen

[hollow depot]

Although I was going off what my friends said

[hollow depot]

It's currently buged sadly

[modern bobcat]

Lots of classes can regen toughness easily with certain talents

[tiny shore]

This is great info, thank you all. I may mess around with the run and gun thing. I get movement is important, but I was using the marksman's focus purple talent and that kinda forces you to stay still

[stable fox]

Ngl, I'm starting now missing Path of Trust playing on background.

[hollow depot]

I know for Psyker I need some recommendations as normally a few melee hits can slap my ass out, my friends recomended health but I think Toughness might be the way to go

[stable fox]

Wish it could play after completing Campaign and not during the skull event.

[amber delta]

that talent is pure unfettered ass dont use it
(dont listen to me, if you like it feel free to use it im not your dad)

[hollow depot]

Yeah it was nice

[tiny shore]

Marksman focus?

[amber delta]

yes

[stable fox]

I thought it was Loner.

[hollow depot]

Oh yeah that one, it's uhh

Not great

[stable fox]

[hollow depot]

I use it on my Vet that is designed to shoot from afar with either a Lasgun or Hellbore

[amber delta]

we are talking about vet now, let me fume about other classes too sometimes

[stable fox]

Now what, you gonna add "and Marksman Focus" too?

/jk

[hollow depot]

But considering melee units always walk over to you it's not great. Good if you can start an engagement at the back and slowly walk up

[tiny shore]

It's part of what made me question recon laz vs braced. Since those are the two types of guns that are sorta like an lmg and marksman's focus seems geared towards point defense

[hollow depot]

I really don't get the meta choice of the recon las

[stable fox]

So in another words this thing doesn't really compliment the game itself where most of your enemies are cannon fodder.
(Marksman Focus)

That likes to get up close and personal.

[hollow depot]

Imo it's kinda dull to see so many Recon Lasguns around

[amber delta]

recon las is funny

you can go bzzzzzzt and things die

[tiny shore]

I like the gun, but as a newer player it seems weird that it feels like it's so much better than most guns i've tried.

[fading otter]

Helbore more fun

[stable fox]

I liked using it but stab revolver is much punchier. And bolter.

[hollow depot]

I personally find the gun kind of boring and like it could get some more oomph in the audio as it sounds like the whirring of a gear in a printer when loading the paper

[maiden jacinth]

Hellbore requires some conscious thought. Recon is truly the flashlight

[tiny shore]

They should add an auto gun that is belt fed lol

[stable fox]

Lasgun is more of crowd controller, but I'd like to rely on my melee to clean the mess.
While guns do heavier work.

[hollow depot]

True, but I love the visual vibe of the lasgun for my regular guardsmen

[maiden jacinth]

Then again, I prefer boolet to puny lazor

[stable fox]

And by heavier i mean BLASTING INTO OBLIVION FAT ARSE SPIKEY ONE KARKERS!

[hollow depot]

I wish they did, give the Vet a braced stubber MG, like that Concept Artwork that lives in the left side of the Vet Talent tree

I know that in November they fowarded the communties request for a Hot-Shot lasgun to the team, but we don't know if they heard it or if it's stuck in the Administratum for the next 85 years

If we got a normal hot-shot lasgun, it'd be pretty damn cool, no idea how it'd work

If we got a Hot-Shot volley gun, I'mma have gunner wars with the Scab gunner

[long sigil]

do they will buff thunder hammer?

[hollow depot]

Like an age of sail ship rolling in for a broadside, seeing who comes out the other side the least damaged

[long sigil]

ironhelm?

is trash

[hollow depot]

Unknown sadly

We can hope they buff it

[long sigil]

cleave is so low

[hollow depot]

Does it have high Single target damage?

[long sigil]

duel sword win

[amber delta]

duelling sword rework cannot come soon enough

[hollow depot]

Uhh yeah, but I think the Thunder Hammer has a purpose for single targets

[amber delta]

[hollow depot]

Agreed

I wish they didn't stop because of backlash

Or it's still cooking

The plasma gun I wish the charged shot was made more appealing over nerfing the primary fire

[amber delta]

I assume they will do both

[hollow depot]

If I'm gonna blow, I want to blow with some damage on target with the Plasma charge

[long sigil]

than ironhelm? somthing silver hammer need change

who use?

[dry pebble]

something that i have said here before is that vet needs some work and i wish they scrapped the stealth tree, gave him a melta, a hotshot lasgun or the scab gunners' weapon AND gave him a dakkadakkadakka heavy weapons skill

[silver jasper]

i love vet with dog

[long sigil]

and i hope zealot have chain weapon talent nod

[hollow depot]

I like the stealth on them, I just wish they'd bring it up in level and take out so many of the painful node choices in vet

[amber delta]

of couse you do, furry psykerpath

[stable fox]

furries.

[hollow depot]

Psyker I would like to get another Blitz, as I wish we had more variety, Brainburst to me just feels so weak and the Electricity is more of a Utility then a weapon

[dry pebble]

i dont think stealth is bad, i just find it boring honestly

[long sigil]

new blitz

like it

[dry pebble]

and dont think it fits the fantasy of gun man

[amber delta]

brain burst with empowered psionics is peak and I will hear no slander

[dry pebble]

Oh brain burst is really strong

[amber delta]

but yeah without empowered its ass

[long sigil]

emperor eat psyker

[hollow depot]

It's fun, I think the people who play it are less lone wolf then before as it used to be people would use it to not engage with the team

[dry pebble]

its a really good utility to delete distant elites when there are no vets on the team

[long sigil]

and psyker body is so weak and cant defance it

[hollow depot]

Wish it had a (in the hands) visual effect that scaled with the target size

[long sigil]

should eated by emperor

[dry pebble]

yeah, this is 100% zealot stealth lol

[long sigil]

damn sleepy

me go sleep

[dry pebble]

good night bart

[long sigil]

bye dog

[hollow depot]

Like say for a poxer, the energy in hand is small and faint, Scab and Dreg it's a little more lifeful, but then Ogryns, Mualers and Bosses it was vibrant energy in the Brainburst

[solar horizon]

i just found out that arbeties has toughness regen on meele hit as one of thier blessings

[dry pebble]

That would be a cool effect for sure

[hollow depot]

That's what I mean, it suffers without it

I wish charge time would increase the more you use it, but that might be a little OP

[zinc marsh]

arbites might have enough toughness regen to rival vet regen builds

[solar horizon]

they are rivaling vet rn

[hollow depot]

I've played many matches so far where no one has went down or died

[solar horizon]

from specialist targetting to toughness regen speed

[hollow depot]

Arbites feels very strong, but I don't dislike it

[solar horizon]

i love it

[stable fox]

Wait for nerfs.

[hollow depot]

Just feel like Veteran and maybe the Psykers toughness drags it's feet

[solar horizon]

i need to get to h40 rank before that happens

[zinc marsh]

they lack the one thing that makes vet its own niche
But like honestly it can fill most niches

[solar horizon]

its an all rounder style

[hollow depot]

I understand it would be power creep, but honestly playing Vet atm is not too fun if you want to try for a marksmen build

[zinc marsh]

I think its funny that the law man is the only person who can un-california-compliant their magazines

[stable fox]

My vet helps replenish grenades via ammo crates. Arbitrarors can't.

[amber delta]

why are there handcuffs on arbitrator's belt if we can't use them

[zinc marsh]

ok but consider

DOGGO EXPLODE

[amber delta]

[stable fox]

Aesthetic.

[hollow depot]

Because in case they get a uhhh

Not a Sanction Redactus

The other one

[amber delta]

in case they get freaky

[stable fox]

I suppose in case if they caught Wolfer.

Though they usually kill whoever they're after.

[mystic jackal]

arbite my beloved

[hollow depot]

The specialist has a dog collar on their belt, but I thought it was for human prisoners

[amber delta]

Sucktion Redactussy

[hollow depot]

And considering it has handcuffs attached to it, I think it is

[mystic jackal]

surprised arbites don't have access to the las gun family

[zinc marsh]

also tbh field improv and VoC's toughness pissing is the biggest saving graces for vet.
Cant get better support class

[hollow depot]

Not in their vibe

[zinc marsh]

same reason they dont get powerswords probably

[amber delta]

honestly I dread to think where vet would be without VoC rn

in the gutter probably

[mystic jackal]

I understand why powerswords aren't in their vibe, but the most common militarium weapon?

[hollow depot]

Yeah

[dry pebble]

100% vet would be in the gutter dead and covered in shit without Shout and plasma

[zinc marsh]

On one hand: Probably
On the other hand: Maybe they'd still have their free reload on exec stance

[hollow depot]

More that they are going to kill things, but you'd want a club to incapacitate someone over a sword

Although with a sword you can just use the blunt side, it's not very safe

[lilac plume]

Vets without survivalist and VoC would be pointless in Havoc

[mystic jackal]

well ik that, but im referring to las guns lmao

[viral vapor]

Believe in the God Emperor. All else is heresy.

[mystic jackal]

Smoke gernade my beloved

[lilac plume]

Psyker with bubble, doing same job, except it has awesome flamer staff that kills everything

[dry pebble]

The way i'm seeing it, when the plasma nerfs drop, Arbites is going to effectively replace vet

Then fatshark will add the melta to vet and the game will sell a thousand trillion copies

[mystic jackal]

but psyker doesn't have gold toughness,,,,

[lilac plume]

Hence why Survivalist and Voc is all vet brings to Havoc

[mystic jackal]

yeah, but smoke too lol

[lilac plume]

I'm sorry, but no, I'm not considering smoke as a reason to bring vet to Havoc

[tiny shore]

YEEEEEESSSSS. Vet needs something like an actual lmg. I'd even take just a variation of the braced with a 125 rd belt or something

[zinc marsh]

its more of:
Their biggest threats aren't usually going to be heavily armored to the point of needing it.
Like for all the stuff darktide does right the fact it feels like most lasguns are piss-shit against armor feels like an L considering everywhere else saying lasguns are good against armor.

[mystic jackal]

it's quite awesome, would recommend it

[lilac plume]

shredder are awesome too

[dry pebble]

in what havoc tier do you use the smokes?

i'm curious

[tiny shore]

Is that the thing the chaos gunners use?

[elder merlin]

Who is the first? @mystic jackal

[mystic jackal]

tag them lol

[lilac plume]

In the "Nobody brought psyker bubble and we're scared" tier

[zinc marsh]

John Moebian probably

[mystic jackal]

25 to 30

[autumn nymph]

What's Havoc like?

[zinc marsh]

Its havoc.

[lilac plume]

Depends of your skills

[mystic jackal]

But I also just bring them regardless of the team because havoc launch was filled with people who didn't know what was going on

[lilac plume]

some people hate it, call it ridiculously hard, sweaty, meta inclined

[elder merlin]

Wake up, @sleek harness @shell goblet @delicate vapor

[zinc marsh]

like just google the name its pretty self explanitory

[dry pebble]

Darn you must be a good vet player to get use out of the smokes, i cannot get anything out of this grenade

[lilac plume]

other people love the difficulty it brings

[elder merlin]

@visual cedar

[mystic jackal]

Theyre incredibly good in havoc with the fact that regular gunners have the capability of downing

[lilac plume]

as someone who hates smokes grenades, the one good thing with it is that it seems to completely screw captains and lieutenants AI

[dry pebble]

Lmao didnt knew they did that

[mystic jackal]

You either throw it between you and the ranged group, or directly ontop of you

[delicate vapor]

Why must I be summoned to the living

[lilac plume]

captains and lieutenants, seemingly, will wander around like headless chickens when they get into smokes

[elder merlin]

Darktide or you're gay

[lilac plume]

The AI wants to pull out its gun, but it cant cause of smoke

[stable jay]

random question could i "switch" what version of the game EI from gamepass to steam?

[delicate vapor]

Yeah I’m gonna stick with gay for now

[tiny shore]

WAIT A DAMN MINUTE!!. I just noticed those three images closely. They fit the themes of the trees, but where is that gun on the left?? I feel like my world is destroyed now

[elder merlin]

[dry pebble]

alright today i learned about smoke grenades

[mystic jackal]

shock maul my beloved

[lilac plume]

I'd still never bring it, shredders are just too good to pass

[dry pebble]

shmaul

[elder merlin]

But did you learn about flame grenades?

[mystic jackal]

smoke gernades are only viable in havoc lmao

[dry pebble]

enlighten me

[mystic jackal]

every other difficulty they fall short than just bringing an offensive frag

[dry pebble]

i fucking love shredders with grenade regen

[lilac plume]

2 shredders into a room full of enemies and it becomes an empty room

[elder merlin]

Flame grenades are good cause tic damage and can kill stuff while you are dealing with other stuff, throw 'em down while you are being swarmed

Very helpful

[dry pebble]

i see, i'm used to the "smokes are useless in regular games" but i never used or have seen it used in havoc at all

[mystic jackal]

theyre incredibly useful in havoc but nowhere else which is funny

[dry pebble]

hey thanks. I like them for this and mostly use them in zealot

i know knives are meta but i love arson

[thick coyote]

It isn't

[lilac plume]

flame grenades are mid

[thick coyote]

💀

[elder merlin]

Based

[lilac plume]

it requires enemies to stand on top of it, which is unreliable, and they require bad perks to be picked up

[thick coyote]

Hammer Heavy sweeps have 16.5 cleave

[elder merlin]

I hate seeing people with stun grenades on zealot, you coulda killed those guys with a flame grenade, stuns are useless

[tiny shore]

Knives feel amazing when you're fighting for your life and weaving in a knife throw on those big guys. You feel like cayde 6 or something lol

[lilac plume]

thats why most people run knives

[thick coyote]

Literally one of the highest cleaves in the game

[elder merlin]

Today i learned hammers can cleave

[lilac plume]

Any weapon has cleave, just like Vermintide

value just differs

[elder merlin]

I gotta test this irl

[thick coyote]

Uh

[dry pebble]

i think they cooked with the arbites tree layout having multiple perks you can pick up to get the blitzes and the abilites, i didnt feel forced to pick a trait at all

[thick coyote]

Bring Slaughterer irl

[graceful drift]

Am I stupid or does the "players take corruption damage over time" modifier on maelstrom just simply isn't working

[dry pebble]

i saw that embed fail

embrace it

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[lilac plume]

what modifier is this ?

never saw it, do you mean pox gas ?

[thick coyote]

Xxixiigh

[elder merlin]

Ok, stuns arent useless, but if we're in a crowd of shitdick dudes and then elites/armor coming in, im taking the fire and tic damage to kill the little guys and burn the bigs

[graceful drift]

X-XI-XII-G-H

[elder merlin]

Over a stun grenade

[shell goblet]

i'll add ya when i get on ! i think my partners gonna be on a lil today so i may run some games w them :3

[graceful drift]

nah that's a new one

[lilac plume]

This entire discussion kinda pointless, stun or flame both suck currently, bring knives

[thick coyote]

They became available with Battle for Tertium

Aka 2 days ago

[elder merlin]

Lets full team though, invite me?

[shell goblet]

but if u need 2 we could fill :o

[elder merlin]

Lets get da rat too, @sleek harness

[dry pebble]

But which is more useless? Flame or stun?

I think stun

[graceful drift]

stun

[elder merlin]

If only the raki wasnt dead

[thick coyote]

Flame

[lilac plume]

I'd say stun, because it works on crusher and is instant

[elder merlin]

Knives fuckin suck and so do you

[lilac plume]

flame does bad damage and requires enemies to stay on top of it

[elder merlin]

[lilac plume]

you can pop a stun and revive someone

[elder merlin]

Dude, majority of the time the enemies are where you are, guess where i am

[lilac plume]

you pop a flame, and you are the one needing to be revived

[dry pebble]

you have a point

[elder merlin]

I've never seen such bullshit anti incenidary grenade propaganda in my life

[clever horizon]

zealot grenade freedom

[lilac plume]

but in Havoc, you move all the time, hence flames are bad

[weary pilot]

All grenades are good

[dry pebble]

man, talking about this made me realise zealot and vet need some love, dont they?

[lilac plume]

you dont stick to a point and just stand still, you move around accordindly to the horde and bosses

[elder merlin]

Your first mistake was thinking i play that shithole mode

[thick coyote]

Nuh uh

[elder merlin]

And even then i'd still use flame grenades cause hordes slow you either way in that mode

[inland mantle]

Main problem with the zealot nades is the talent tax alot of those talents are ass that you need to grab

[graceful drift]

yup, they need at leas a revamp of their talent tree

[lilac plume]

Well, when discussing whats better, best to pick the actually game mode that requires careful building

[weary pilot]

Havoc players not call everything useless challenge

[graceful drift]

psyker too, to an extent

[elder merlin]

Eat my ass

[untold abyss]

Is warp resistance important on the inferno staff?

[thick coyote]

Nuh uh

[dry pebble]

Do you think that psyker is in a bad state?

[thick coyote]

Basically every Psyker weapon dumps warp resistance

[graceful drift]

semi bad state

[lilac plume]

Some stuff are legitimately useless for havoc 40, not our fault on balance stuff

[inland mantle]

[thick coyote]

Except VoidSTRIKE

[clever horizon]

psyker eats so good rn

[solar horizon]

Dude... flame nades are amazing

[thick coyote]

That one dumps blast radius

[elder merlin]

[weary pilot]

Havoc 40 isnt meant to be balanced

[untold abyss]

aight

[elder merlin]

To be fair, anything past havoc 20 is dogshit

Its not even fun at that point

[lilac plume]

nah, they suck, flames require bad nodes, deal shit damage to carapace and flak, and are just not reliable

[elder merlin]

Havoc 40 isnt meant to be fun*

[solar horizon]

You have no idea how many times flame nades has clutched up for me in h40

[lilac plume]

even if you dont want knives, stuns AT LEAST let you block a horde

[inland mantle]

Good for revs too

[solar horizon]

But it is fun

[inland mantle]

Better than fire atleast for that

[dry pebble]

its undeniably more useful

flame is fun to use for zone denial with hordes

[lilac plume]

clutch against what, lol. Poxers ? This stuff aint burning anything that isnt infected or unarmored

[elder merlin]

Someone call a therapist, this person has stockholm syndrome

[lilac plume]

shiiit, man, we're surrounded by horrrdesss...if only we had classes with explosions or giant flamethrowers

[inland mantle]

Nah H40 is fun cant relate

[lilac plume]

H40 is peak fun

[halcyon glen]

E

[inland mantle]

F

[dry pebble]

G

[elder merlin]

I hope arbite gets his huge grenade launcher at some point

[lilac plume]

Thats the one weakness of arbites right now, their weapons pool is kinda low

[dry pebble]

but its concise, works perfectly with the class perks

[solar horizon]

Zone denying for trappers and drop ragers quickly, great for chokepoint damage, espically when bosses spawn you can chuck a few flame nades to deny horde swarm so psyker can focus on the boss killing instead of solely on horde control

[dry pebble]

i'll give them that

[green beacon]

did they reset havoc assignment ranks after the update

[solar horizon]

They are amazing for rev as well

[elder merlin]

Meanwhile ogryn with fucking 6 weapons each for how long?

[lilac plume]

denying trappers ??? with flames nades ? Dude, just shoot the trapper

[elder merlin]

Most of which fuckin suck

[solar horizon]

Because book+nades before a rev can get you at least 2 revs Because they are burning while in book stun

[inland mantle]

Yes

[green beacon]

damn

[dry pebble]

fatshark shipped arbites with a low weapon pool because they wanted to avoid another dueling sword incident 100%

[inland mantle]

Well...

[dry pebble]

but its okay the weapons fit the class

[solar horizon]

The fun is in the challenge

[inland mantle]

Tested the shotpistol and yea it's crazy for boss damage just sucks for armor

[dry pebble]

shotpistol fucks

[lilac plume]

Arbites kinda reminds me or Warrior priest in vermintide....lots of hammer weapons

[inland mantle]

Granted gonna be hard to do have to test in H40 but I got the shotpistol doing over 10k boss damage a shot

But teammate dmg buffs should help

[solar horizon]

Im not gonna shoot trappers them mid rev, so flame nades confrim a pickup and not risk restarting the timer

I always bring flame nades and beacon to h40

No matter what the modifers are

[inland mantle]

You book? or fury

[lilac plume]

I mean, I guess you can...probably would work better to bring Until Death

[solar horizon]

The arbities shock maul is nearing ds level i think

[solar horizon]

Book

[inland mantle]

[elder merlin]

I wasnt a fan of it, feels weird

[solar horizon]

Who wouldnt bring until death

A 40 build with no until death is like playing with no toughness regen

[inland mantle]

Feels great idk maybe it's just not for everyone

[solar horizon]

Its a must on zealot havoc builds

[lilac plume]

Well, if you do+ beacon, you are spending points kinda everywhere, which means you are lacking common W stuff for zealot

[bright hawk]

Is anyone’s games not starting during loading or crashing the second the loading is done

[thick fog]

You know, the new campaign is really good but I wish that they would give us rewards for each chapter and completing it
Maybe materials, a frame and insignia on the end

[solar horizon]

I managed to squeeze it in

All of the good zealot talents

And it works just fine for me

[inland mantle]

Do you have 20% CD on backstab for the book build?

[solar horizon]

I dont care what anyone tell me

Beacon of purity is h40 is so nice to have

[lilac plume]

Riiiight, would require build pic because its hard to believe, Zealot has a lot of skills you HAVE to run

[solar horizon]

Nope, but invocation of death is enough imo

[tawdry ledge]

what do you guys think of the new class, is it fun and worth to buy?

[inland mantle]

Hmm

But book every 10 secs is crazy strong

[shy flame]

Did.....did they just move all the difficulty names down one notch? Damnation feels like Heresy in terms of enemy health.

[solar horizon]

Ehh.... book every 20 so seconds is good enough

[lilac plume]

One difficulty was removed

[solar horizon]

Sedation is gone

It starts from uprising now

[shy flame]

I know, but I'm one shotting Mutants with my Ogryn GG on Damnation.

[lilac plume]

Uhh, you can do same near on any difficulty, just with pinpoint

[solar horizon]

Thats possible

Just hit weakspot with crit

[inland mantle]

Man Plague link your build I'll try it when my H40 stack gets on want to see what your cooking

[shy flame]

I've been a GG Ogryn since launch and it always used to take like 90% of their HP with a GG shot on Damnation.

[zinc marsh]

ngl BoP is the only zealot perk i find actually useful.
like just fuck your corruption bullshit

[lilac plume]

Ogryn got a big rework

[solar horizon]

I think i have to find it hold on

[lilac plume]

lots of new buffs on it

[inland mantle]

No rush

[thick fog]

GG deals lot more damage since rework

[lilac plume]

Also, keep in mind, mutants who spawn during mutants modifier have less health than regular mutants

[hollow depot]

Hot-Shot Volley gun? Yeah https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hotshot_Volley_Gun

[solar horizon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f022bae-9040-461d-9843-5c18e97a373e/evil-book-spam-zealot

This works extremely well for me

[inland mantle]

[lilac plume]

No duellist, no Wrath be Swift, neither holy cause or call for book

[haughty epoch]

why are there no variants of the bolt gun in the game? like its only the spearhead? why? youd think in WARHAMMER theyd have a wider selection of literally the most iconic warhammer gun

[inland mantle]

I took them all mb man

[zinc marsh]

-# also if i'm being entirely honest i'm not too sure i like the whole difficulty change thing. Heresy's just the new malice.

[haughty epoch]

you bastard

[haughty epoch]

LOL

that is the face of the ogryn who ate all the bolt gun variants 😭

[solar horizon]

Time to try out havoc then

[inland mantle]

Yes

[zinc marsh]

because we're weak humies and not angels of death

all the fun boltguns are SM exclusives because they're too good

[solar horizon]

Im grinding out arbeties and im going straight into havoc

[solar horizon]

Still, even without them its performing extremely well

20s or so book, until death, high hp regen, low ammo usage (bolt pistol)

[elder merlin]

[zinc marsh]

Ogryn's just dont get them because...
...
idk i'm sure there's a lore reason and i'm sure its the mental idea of giving the people who backseat in the short bus a grenade machinegun

[solar horizon]

I will not stand for beacon of purity slander

It is THAT good

In havoc

[tiny shore]

Yeah we 100% need this. Give that to Vet. In same update, Ogryn gets a gauntlet that smashes the ground with an aoe, or pulls an enemy to you

[zinc marsh]

but yeah anyways BoP is nice

anyways also using Arbites to finish my damnation clearances.
Oh also Fat Shark, Where the fuck did Excise Vault go?

I'm still angy about OO being a one-time mission but where the hell is Excise Vault?

[inland mantle]

Havoc