hivescum-class

[tropic crag]

yeah door kills being funny goes along way in making them fun

[arctic imp]

I really don’t think the max stack tox damage on a boss is that crazy. It’s actually easier to spray the autos into a boss’s face and get more damage that way

[dim moth]

You showed me a single H40 game that had less damage than I did on helbore vet last time I played exe in H40

But I did specify recon las

I haven't actually played havoc this season so I got burnt out dealing with insecurities in party finder lmao

[rancid coral]

I just popped into a party played the game and that's it weh

[mint valve]

Are there any builds that play off blinders

[rancid coral]

Indeed

[tropic crag]

yeah but that feels more interactive than the needle gun, for me its a feel thing because when you watch someone spray full autos it looks like they're fighting the boss, when you or someone else takes out the boss with a needle gun it just looks like your character is double checking if he locked his car so he's pressing the button a few times to make sure then looks around and oh the boss is dead

[arctic imp]

it’s very troubling. A lot of people still insta reject hive scum

[rancid coral]

I mean I don't blame em

It's the arbites syndrome all over again

but this case is the opposite xddd

[arctic imp]

I’m not entirely sure how long it would take max stacks to kill a boss without any team or weapon input. I can’t test that on console

[mint valve]

The scum players that carry constantly:

[rancid coral]

I mean yeah no shit you can see the screenshot I just uploaded

right here pff

still to find a hive scum that doesn't fold in 0.1s it's weird

[tropic crag]

its not even very fast, its just how it feels that bothers me lol, its so easy that why not do it and it just feels lame... i'm more frustrated with how the design interacts with bosses than anything else

[mint valve]

The fent addicts do more heavy lifting than people realize

[rancid coral]

and I kinda played that one like ass too cuz for some reason my mod to disable blight visuals didn't work

[arctic imp]

Specifically desperado is very good. If you see that on a scum that plays well you’ll usually be safe. Other builds are a bit more of a toss up

[rancid coral]

and had to play at 40 fps aaa

[spiral horizon]

we should nerf needle pistol not by adjusting the damage but by giving it the highest and most unpredictable recoil in the game because that would be really funny

[arctic imp]

I like how it interacts with my build personally. I apply max stacks and go crazy with my shivs, it feels good

[mint valve]

Autopistol desparado is cracked beyond measure

Almost no need to use melee

[candid flint]

outlander

[tropic crag]

lol honestly as someone spamming rampage scum i've been treating the ranged ones as tossups because some of them do not know what they are doing at all lol

[arctic imp]

oh yesh I expect that to be nerfed before anything else. Probably by nerfing pickpocket

[rancid coral]

we should make the scum hands be very shaky under the special stimm

this way he can't aim the needle for shit

[arctic imp]

Honestly it’s always a toss up I can’t blame people for being unsure about accepting us

[tropic crag]

AND a self friendly fire chance because you shot yourself in the thigh

[tropic crag]

yeah, i just accept everyone and then monitor some of the desp players lol

[mint valve]

They need to make vultures mark and adrenaline frenzy not ass when compared to stim dependency

[rancid coral]

I do a lot better on rampage indeed pfff

[spiral horizon]

hive scum boutta end up on a chubbyemu video

[rancid coral]

idk Vulture's dodge can do heavy lifting tbh

getting vulture's mark just for vulture's dodge is worth xdd

[mint valve]

Still

Simple damage buffs just

[trim wind]

yea vulture's is good

[mint valve]

Doesnt seem toooo worth

When everything already melts

[trim wind]

i don't really care about chem dependancy

[tropic crag]

i like the simplicity of rampage and adren, i bonk and things happen

[mint valve]

Trance inducing

Its not fun gameplay to w+m1

For 40 minutes

[tropic crag]

i have so...so many hours on slayer, its my brain mode now

i call it bonk brain

[arctic imp]

Is adrenaline truly that weak? I love it on rampage. But the use of chem dep is for sure a lot more readily available

[dim moth]

25% damage, 5% toughness regen, and 10% attack speed

it's p good

[arctic imp]

That’s what I’m saying

[mint valve]

CD Giving you 40% cooldown rate on rampage allows more uptime, meaning more durability for you and things die alot quicker

[arctic imp]

Let’s get this Mr. E propaganda out of here

[arctic imp]

My favorite way to play hive scum is with tox everywhere

[mint valve]

Its good

But

[arctic imp]

But you can mix that with rampage

[mint valve]

Crowbar ramp or shiv ramp

[arctic imp]

I’d do shiv, tox on crit, with SC and I’d do a no or only one or two nodes of CDR with a mostly damage and attk speed stim because Sample collector is insane with a tox build

You always have your stim

[mighty belfry]

Mister E thinks scum is weakest class

[arctic imp]

Dumb.

[mighty belfry]

We do not heed his word here.

[arctic imp]

What a dumb take

[mint valve]

I dont see much value on tox on crit with shiv rampage because they already do so much damage that you consistently 1 tap chaff and 2 tap most elites or specials

[mighty belfry]

Genuinely delusional take.

[arctic imp]

It’s so your chaff kills give you SC

2% is bigger than 1%, trust

[mint valve]

I noticed

[arctic imp]

I’m serious it’s hugely noticeable

[mint valve]

But i already kill quick enough to get it back

[arctic imp]

I probably get mine back faster

[mighty belfry]

It comes bakck

Significantly quicker

It's not even a debate on that.

[mint valve]

Once im at at least 3 stacks of CD i dont have to worry about how fast i get SD

[arctic imp]

Remember that if you kill like 10 people you only got 10, I got 20

[mint valve]

Because i just get the 4th stim back in time to get my full stacks

Always

[arctic imp]

True but I do it for more than to keep my chem dep up

I like having high stim uptime with a 75 second cooldown stim. It feels like i’m cheating the system

[mint valve]

I have simple stimms

[arctic imp]

Oh yeah no I don’t like simple ones

[mint valve]

45 seconds cooldown

[arctic imp]

I recognize the value though, especially if you don’t do tox

[mint valve]

All huge strength and finesse

Not much point in trying to force out a huge stimm if you arent running tox, its puts stress on your ability to thirst for chaff

Esp since you have 3 other people killing alongside you

[arctic imp]

Mr. E also said jittery was a bad talent. That’s so wrong. Im not saying it’s S tier but A tier? Definitely. It allows you to dodge so much more freely because you can trust you’ll get them back faster than usual

No wonder his scum gameplay is so bad. With jittery he’d never run out of dodges, but he doesn’t take it so of course he runs out

[mighty belfry]

I tried to take a listen to his reasoning for why Scum is so low

One of his reasons being that Scum can't get the same kind of DPS that psyker can

And I'm just there like

[arctic imp]

Which is just wrong

[mighty belfry]

"What the fuck are you talking about?"

[mint valve]

Psyker is psyker

Scum is scum

[mighty belfry]

The thing is, it's wrong

[arctic imp]

True, I do use smaller stims for my desperado build. No tox means SC is a smaller buff

[mighty belfry]

Scum 100% can get to those heights.

[mint valve]

Thats like saying ogryn is ass because he cant one tap like zealot

[arctic imp]

I do think it’s harder for non-desperado scum to get that high. But that’s also skill-dependent.

[mighty belfry]

But the fact that they can at all.

Means they're an outlier in terms of class power.

That's undeniable.

It may require more effort.

But that's actually a good thing.

It's the high highs, low lows class.

[mint valve]

I run shivs with rampage and a finesse stim, with CD of course and i shred everything, including armor, meanwhile i notice others struggling to cut through flak, scum is NOT low tier

Pop the stimm and use rampage and i watch burgles melt because of the crit feeding

[arctic imp]

Scum is definitely not low tier. I would have changed Mr. E’s ranking by placing scum either third or 2nd. But I don’t play Vet a lot and haven’t seen them a lot since HS dropped so I’m unsure about their power. I still feel they’re as useful as zealots though. It was a weird take for him to rank Scum so low

[mighty belfry]

Vet is very strong

Scum and Vet probably contest with each other imho

[mint valve]

Bolter vets with target marking makes clearing big targets and gunners simple

[mighty belfry]

Though, I think vet is just better due to their immense utility.

While also still having great damage potential.

[final temple]

only if every one of them was affected. bonesaw is reliable like that. coated on shivs not necessarily.

[mint valve]

Ok im confused with hyper violence

[arctic imp]

If build a certain way, you can get about 100% crit chance with shivs

[final temple]

sure.

[mint valve]

What exactly does it do, dumb it down

[arctic imp]

everything I kill with my shivs is toxed, for instance

And it’s a crit class, you’re already built for them

[final temple]

but building shivs for 100% crit over 70% with bigger finesse bonus seems like leaving damage on the table.

guess it’s a valid choice tho

[arctic imp]

Iirc, somebody tested the finesse versus crit blessings for shivs and they were basically, functionally the same.

Except the crit one helps with coated

[mighty belfry]

https://gyazo.com/f9d7ceb2ae8bbfafb522b782594b57a2

[mint valve]

Yeah leftover damage

[rancid coral]

I like it for H40 cuz sometimes, a random group of ragers want to kill me from behind

but because of Vulture's dodge

they don't dmg me

[rancid coral]

Kill an enemy

25% of the overkill dmg will be added for the following attack for 1s

Example:

[arctic imp]

I thought the same thing for shivs though, finesse seemed better. unfortunately I’m on console so I have to rely on PC players that test these things. I took epic_cole ‘s word for it I believe, that was awhile ago though

[mint valve]

Vultures push is kinda buns, with the amount of kick autopistols have it just makes me miss like 20 bullets

[arctic imp]

I don’t take that one usually, the dodge one is sweet though. You are basically immune while shooting with the autos

[rancid coral]

Your attack deals 200 dmg, the enemy has 100 HP

200-100 = 100 overkill dmg
25% of 100 is 25

your next attack will deal 25 more dmg, or 225

[mint valve]

Probably wont venture into it, it would rewire my brain which is currently wired to always dodge everything and block when necessary

[rancid coral]

you should still do that even with vulture's dodge because you're not immune to flamers, bombers, trappers and overheads xdd

[mint valve]

I could find a way to take jittery but tbh nimble gives me more value since i only dodge when somethings about to hit me (sound cue)

[mint valve]

I have my ways

[rancid coral]

wut you should always take nimble + jittery

these 2 together are mega OP

you can outrun everything with these together and shiv

[mint valve]

Ive yet to find myself needing more dodges

Ive already performed multiple clutches without it

[rancid coral]

well ya you can defenitely do it without jittery but

it defenitely helps soooo much

[mint valve]

I mean

[dim moth]

it sure made it difficult to go back to helbore exe veteran I can tell you that much

[mint valve]

Usually the only problem is bullets

Which run and gun solves

Melee is a walk in the park with scum

He pushes out so much damage usually that whatever wants to smack me is dead before it has the chance

Besides bosses which still die quick because of needles and boombringer

Its free real estate

[halcyon adder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1443927869926543452/1454697957827018824/pew.gif

[zenith fern]

Why his thingy wiggle

[mint valve]

Just did auric as scum with shiv rampage

Never went below 130 hp

Truly

He is not low tier

[halcyon adder]

Shiv supremacy

[mint valve]

Shivs just out damage everything

But crowbar does bully everything aswell

I do love a good crowbar bashing

[tropic crag]

i've decided to try a "bad" shiv build by going mk3 shivs and taking both bleed blessings and leaning into tox crits

[mint valve]

Ngl

Idk what fatshark was thinking with the other mark for shivs

Its just blatantly worse

[tropic crag]

it attacks faster.... at least it feels like it so thats why i was going dot with it

after some workshopping i came up with a few ways to quickly kill carapace with it

well "quickly"

fast enough lol

but even with nothing but adren you can use lights to spam a crusher down fast enough for if all your answers are down

using the dots and the light 3 and 4 attacks

obviously rampage and rending heavies makes it faster... and throwing a knife to pre stack tox helps even more

and throwing tox blackouts helps even more

so like... they work but yeah they take work

but i also need to test run the rather memey build first

[mint valve]

If i want dot i use stimm/tox with saw

Support scum

If i want to be a paper shredder i use rampage shiv

If i want to bully everything i use crowbar rampage

[tropic crag]

well yeah i'm making builds to test all the weapons and i was like "shivs too good i'm gonna build bad shivs"

[mint valve]

If i want to be funny bullet storm, you know what i use

[tranquil fjord]

man the chem nades feel so much better than the inferno nades

[mint valve]

Thats cuz they are

Mr white had a field day with them

[tropic crag]

yeah one of them ramps up in damage and the other does a flat tick

[mint valve]

Thief harness scums are the ones that never go down unless it is truly some weird fatshark bullshit

Change my mind

[fast gust]

They'll get nerfed don't worry

[tropic crag]

time to troll lobbies with bad dot mk3 shiv build

it'll probably be fine, its only weakspot is carapace and i've mostly covered for that tho

[mint valve]

Fatshark is gonna nerf the hive scum in a way that effectively makes it ass for zero reason, but they're gonna say its skill based and a glass cannon still

Im waiting on the pointless rampage nerf

Also what do i do with these last 5 points

[fast gust]

Don't worry hive scum will be the new Ogryn

With meaningless nerfs that are extremely minor out of habit while keeping certain weapons unupdated to the latest power creep

[candid flint]

based on what lol

arbitrator released op, got realed in a bit, still pretty op

[halcyon adder]

Take the stim cd node and the stam based toughness dr node

[fast gust]

Based on Fatshark, it took 1 year and 9 months for SotT to be nerfed

[mint valve]

All of my builds have it i want something different dammit

[fast gust]

It took 2 years to get necro sienna fixed

[halcyon adder]

Take the desperado cd node then

[candid flint]

oh nvm then yeah

i misunderstood what yo uwere implying

[fast gust]

[halcyon adder]

And the melee speed and cleave if youre feeling tickled

[supple gate]

are plasma gunners considered gunners for the curio?

[mint valve]

Shiiiiit bruh i just want to effectively be a walking bullet storm

[pallid quail]

no

[mint valve]

No they are the funny fuck you elite

That does a 3rd of your hp

Bc plasma

[supple gate]

and they aren't considered snipers either?

[mint valve]

No

Think of it as an elephant gun

It isnt a sniper or a machine gun

[woeful hill]

Plasma gunners arent affected by any curio damage res

[candid flare]

They're just a bjg fuck you

[tropic crag]

ok... so i might like the bad mk3 shiv dot build

you can like 5 palm death strike elites and walk away as they die

so its fun and it works

its def not the best

[mint valve]

Do you have a good opinion for what i should invest my last 5 in

[woeful hill]

from what I can already see you are going for mainly ranged only?

[mint valve]

Indeed

Autopistol hose

Or vraks hose if im feeling fruity

[fast gust]

https://tenor.com/view/bangbang-gun-shot-powpow-pow-gif-13520664

[supple gate]

thoughts on shiv insta kill build?

[tropic crag]

its not the best but its still more than good enough to play with and have fun

like its still above average

[supple gate]

h40 viable?

[woeful hill]

my only input is to always run this talent

its a great source of DR and damage

you can tank H40 crusher overheads

[mint valve]

Ah if only it were all damage instead of melee

[tropic crag]

i mean... i could see it working fine tbh

[mint valve]

The things i would do

[supple gate]

good to know

now i just need to reach h40 and the skill required

[woeful hill]

Burster + Crusher overhead

[mint valve]

Imagine if coated weaponry applied to ranged

Burgles would be cooked

[tropic crag]

yeah its why i was laughing at people who were calling the class a glass cannon, its all normal cannon

[supple gate]

how did you take so little damage from the burster?

[mint valve]

Funny damage reduction

[woeful hill]

actually. I might've had Shield of Contempt from the zealot

so this might not be fully accrete

[fast gust]

With the toughness regen from getting shot at, you have more ranged sustain than Ogryn

The nerfs are gonna hit hard

[mint valve]

Btw should i keep blackouts on me or rpg bc rpg

[tropic crag]

the only class that feels tankier to me is the arby

i love blackouts

they are so handy

[supple gate]

would a build that focuses on having chem blackout in the build be viable?

[woeful hill]

yes

everything is viable

[mint valve]

But boom... i like a kaboom

[tropic crag]

tox blackouts are very good

[woeful hill]

you just need skill

[mint valve]

Makes all my problems disappear

[supple gate]

i got some

not h40 or even h30 but i got some

[tropic crag]

i make my problems sit down and think about what they've done before i come and have a talk with them

[woeful hill]

@zenith ferry

[flat lotus]

what curios in this clip

tough tough stam?

[woeful hill]

3 tough all with +5 toughness, +5 hp, +gunner res

[flat lotus]

ohh

[woeful hill]

I dont use DR stim

[tropic crag]

honestly scum keeps surprising me on how much its making me like weapons i'd normally hate... like the chainsword and chainaxe... and now this funny mk3 shiv dot nonsense

[flat lotus]

do you think its better to just run the triple toughness over x2 tough x1 stam

because im honestly thinking scum has fine stamina and that i should just run triple

[tropic crag]

i run 3 tough personally

but both probably work tbh

[woeful hill]

I never have stam problem

with +3 tough

[supple gate]

probably only matters if you go for the attack speed

[woeful hill]

works for me

[tropic crag]

yeah stam is never an issue

[flat lotus]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[mint valve]

'20 kills at close range' applies to ranged still yes?

[supple gate]

would chem count?

[tropic crag]

i think some does but some doesnt... but i could be wrong... if some doesn't it will be the spread from the needlegun

but i might be wrong tbh

[mint valve]

Nae

[supple gate]

didn't know it was scarlet rot from elden ring

[mint valve]

Tox rot doesnt count

[supple gate]

multiple types of the same effect

[mint valve]

It was tested

Chems do not count toward blackout regen

It would be a free blinder generator

[tropic crag]

ok, i never paid enough attention while running through things, i just knew that things regened fast enough on tox builds for me to not care

like even bonesaw can get enough kills

[supple gate]

do i need to kill the 20 enemies?

[tropic crag]

yeah, but thats easy with hordes around

and if there isn't enough things to kill usually that means you don't really need the regen on the nades

[supple gate]

does insta kill count?

[tropic crag]

i actually don't know, don't use HC enough

i love HV too much

[fast gust]

It does

[mint valve]

Insta kill crits are a seperate source of damage not dealt by the player

So no it does not count either

[supple gate]

haymaker too

[mint valve]

Unless that was fixed

[fast gust]

I'm pretty sure it works on haymaker from the testing 3 days ago

[tropic crag]

yeah i assume hypercrit is just a funny way to proc haymaker

[fast gust]

No idea if hc is 'fixed'

[tropic crag]

what do you mean?

[supple gate]

haymaker doesn't care about hp

[tropic crag]

yeah they proc different but its probably the same effect triggering

[supple gate]

if for whatever reason it's too strong for hc you can still instakill

[supple gate]

probably

[woeful hill]

It would seem that my zealot had Shield of Contempt so this is not just Scum DR

1 more clip

this was an auric crusher

with max DR, without DR stim

45% DR + 30%TDR

[mint valve]

Made an interesting stim

Max cooldown, max stam

Crazy ass stim

[woeful hill]

Havoc crusher

[tropic crag]

yeah thats what i've seen in games (i eat alot of overheads )

i wonder how close to living you were

or i guess how super dead you were

[halcyon adder]

Toughless

[rich carbon]

can the double barrel steet sweeper build work with any of hte combat shotties

[patent bone]

Hey nerds

[tropic crag]

ok so... my hot take of the week... i really like the mk3 shivs, they aren't better than the normal ones buuuuuut they have some really unique combos enables with shoving

[tender marten]

slashies gang

[tropic crag]

i realized that if you either push then normal light attack 3 times then push you get decent dps against armor with dots and if you pushstab then hold a heavy input through that you get access to the stab

i actually really like it as a weapon

its got options

[patent bone]

Pew pew

[tropic crag]

i should say the pushing is more to give you space to focus down the armor but it feels like it rotates the stabby lights faster as well

but that might be me being crazy

[mint valve]

For ranged scum

Desperado

Should i use a speed stimm

Or a cooldown stimm

Both doesnt work bc its kinda counter-intuitive

[tropic crag]

i think that depends on how you want to spend your down time or if you even want the downtime

[mint valve]

Well the downtime is

Melee

Which for ranged only melee kinda sucks

So more cd it is ig

[tropic crag]

then take cooldown tbh

[mint valve]

Funny concentration stimmy

[tropic crag]

lol

[mint valve]

I could potentially have 91% cd if i used chem dep with a concentration stimmy

Virtually no downtime when i use it

Bonesaw would compliment the stim regen aswell

[tropic crag]

feels more memey than good but like... good memey

[mint valve]

Shooting forever

[tropic crag]

yeah it would still do work

[mint valve]

But the ranged invincibility goes hard ngl

[tropic crag]

lol with the current patch you can just dodge and get the same effect

so now is the time

[mint valve]

I might, fair

I got nimble, slippery customer AND jittery

So i can effectively dodge forever

Hmmmmmm

Nahhhhh

[ancient basin]

using the boom bringer to pop 20+ gunners is fun

[mint valve]

You havent experienced 20 crushers yet

[fast surge]

Fun but kind of a waste

Use it on armor

[ancient basin]

ehhh, its punched through some encounters my team was not ready to deal with

but yeah 20 crushers is peak boom bringer for sure, i have had that afew times

[tropic crag]

sometimes i get very sad when i brace for an epic impact and every crusher about to try to over head me evaporates

[mint valve]

Ogryn frag has been usurped

Rpg funny moments

[tropic crag]

they really really buffed it

[fast gust]

While Ogryn frag remains bad

[flat mist]

What does 91% cd even mean lol

[unique spire]

It needs to insta kill bosses

It's 10 rockets in one

[fast gust]

Or atleast kill ragers...

[tropic crag]

ogryn frag should explode into a bunch of rocks

so it would be super random but super funny

[unique spire]

Ogryn frags should destroy terrain

Like in Helldivers 2

[ancient basin]

rocket to clear a bunch of distracted crushers bonking my downed team mate is also a good feeling

[mint valve]

91% increased Cooldown

I went full concentration stimmy which is 51% increased cd

And bone saw to recharge stim

Makes it easy to cycle desperado

[flat mist]

Are you talking about the cartel stimm? Hive scums unique mechanic? Because calling that concentration stimm is simply confusing, and it does not provide you 51%.

[mint valve]

Its

The cartel special

Theres a path that gives you pure Cooldown

Nothing else

So it is essentially a concentration stimm

[flat mist]

Yep. So not the concentration stimm that already exists in the game.

It gives 50% CD regen with kalma V.

[mint valve]

Ye

You forget the 4 .25%'s

[flat mist]

No, you did awful maths.

[mint valve]

Erm

[flat mist]

What's 6*4 man?

[mint valve]

The nodes give 6.25%...

[flat mist]

Yes.

What is 6*4?

[mint valve]

I may be slow

Autism power

[flat mist]

Lel

[fast gust]

6,7

[mint valve]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

Tbh id rather listen to the 67 trend than i would skibidi toilet

Nonetheless brainrot is

[flat mist]

Also chat; don't forget that Hypex is terrible with rampage and you are objectively a scrub if you use it

[mint valve]

God awful

Ew who uses hypex

I always go wildfire 5

With rampage

[flat mist]

People who don't think very hard

Wildfire V seems like a waste to me

[mint valve]

I already have enough crits

More headshot damage = gooder

This is with shivs mind you

So its the perfect stack

[flat mist]

Nvm I had my names confused

I also enjoy wildfire

[mint valve]

Were you thinking of fury

[flat mist]

Super inconstant that two of the branches on the strength stimm get a new name and one of them keeps Wildfire

I was thinking it was the attack speed tbh

[mint valve]

Nah i only invest in multiple trees with support scum

A few nodes in everything

Wildfire as the biggest tree

[rich carbon]

wtf

why can i not unlock pinning fire t4 on the autpistol

[fast gust]

Autopistol bugged currently

For anyone that didn't master it before patch, you'll have to wait

[cinder plume]

how do you get the "pugillist" penance? wanted the red mask thingy but reading the stats n stuff, i got no idea how to get it.

[flat mist]

That's fucking hilarious ngl

[dawn portal]

How does fat shark keep find new ways to fk up?

[rich carbon]

wdym bugged

i was able to get blaze away just fine

[fast gust]

A lot of people are unable to have the autopistol save mastered blessings

I can't test this because I did it a while back but I've been helping newbies come into the game and so far out of 8 only 2 have been able to progress autopistol

The rest the weapon resets after closing the mastery menu, leaving forever that mastery yellow pip

[icy scaffold]

Yea my shredder has a single point it won’t save atm, on all my characters

[wheat hawk]

Is Combat Blade usable on Hicescum?

[novel oracle]

yes
its a crit focused weapon leaning on mobility on the crit focused class leaning on mobility

[gaunt onyx]

im like 2 weapons from mastering every weapon on hive scum

[zenith fern]

yes and is really great on scum

I started using it this week and i cant drop it

[flat mist]

Hypex is bad with rampage

[split fiber]

it is done

it's so beautiful

[flat lotus]

thoughts on the vultures nodes

the elite kill knockback node seems like shit

[fast surge]

Dodge is good if you have rapid fire weapon

Rest are kinda meh

[flat lotus]

The 1s immunity thing seems way too niche so I will probably remove it for the clip size talent

[keen timber]

If you’re using a rapid fire gun, it’s incredibly good

If you’re using something like the db, it’s not worth I

[flat lotus]

i use dual autos

maybe i just dont notice when it procs

[keen timber]

I’d pick dodge over 15% ammo any day

15% ammo is like 8 bullets on the autopistols

That’s so bad

[flat lotus]

Oh yeah I just read it

I didn't know it was 15%

Not worth it . . .

[shrewd thorn]

whats the dump stat on stub pistol

[grand jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/993501379463225425/1453404938767040624/image0.gif

[novel oracle]

Very not niche at all, especially on dual autos

Functionally it gives you desperado outside of desperado, but also for melee attacks too, as long as youre shooting things

1s seems really short for a crit condition, until you remember dual autos have +5% crit chance baked in, pseudo random crit exists in darktide, and youre firing a billion shots per second

You can play like a monkey with it cuz you just dont take damage

[flat lotus]

Oh shit they do?

[young herald]

yes

DAP crit like crazy

[zenith pagoda]

The middle one is amazing

The one on the right is for better uptime consistency

The left is uh

[flat lotus]

i thought the crits were from me constantly dodging lmao

[flat lotus]

i tried it

it's way too short

feels like two meter radius

or something

idk dont like it

[zenith pagoda]

Yeah it's the same for many pushback talents, like rampage, arby forceful and the zealot one

Judicial force, you have to be basically touching the enemy

[rough peak]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-sad-crying-wipes-tears-wiping-tears-gif-24991919

[jaunty spire]

Only 3m? Bruh

[astral canyon]

Why is she wiping her tears with a ferret

[zenith pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-penis-mr-penis-cat-gif-6866592718592461157

[astral canyon]

"Staggers barely anything"

[novel dune]

meanwhile Ironbreaker staggering specials when they attempt to grab him

[jaunty spire]

I get better use throwing a Blinding grenade at my feet

[astral canyon]

Tru

[jaunty spire]

Throw in tox and Blinder grenades are chef's kiss

[astral canyon]

It is a lot of point investment for desperado setups tho

[novel dune]

Maybe it'd be decent if it was just ranged kills instead of special/elite ranged kills

[astral canyon]

I'd rather they buffed the stagger

[jaunty spire]

True, but sample collector does make up for it in a desperado setup

With the ability on cooldown you can stim up and keep on firing

[worn yoke]

contestant for worst keystone modifier in the game imo

[zenith fern]

Glad I never took that keystone even I did not heard the full details of it

only 3m and barely stagger

[worn yoke]

how did i get 3 3 stamina curios before getting my 2nd 17% toughness

:*(

[rare stirrup]

are they actually 3 stamina or scam 3 stamina

[astral canyon]

Hey thats +18% attack speed right there

[candid flint]

i spent 60k melk bucks at level 30 and got 1 17%

[worn yoke]

What is scam 3 stamina supposed to be

[rare stirrup]

It's only 3 stamina if it's power >=410, otherwise it actually only gives 2 stamina

[worn yoke]

toughness always seems to be the hardest one to get in my experience

[toxic dagger]

justified kuli sass

[worn yoke]

what the hell why does it work like that

[rare stirrup]

Rounding jank

[worn yoke]

1 is 410 2 are 400 😔

[candid flint]

[supple gate]

what about hp and toughness?

[candid flint]

then it does what it says

[supple gate]

so only stamina has rounding problems?

[candid flint]

yes

in the psykhanium, it will appear fine. you wont see the rounding error

but in game, if you are actually tracking your stamina, then the rounding error reveals itself

idk why, but the error jsut doesnt show up in psyk at all iirc lol

[shut tapir]

whats the best crusher/boss killer build?

[grand jewel]

one with weapons and talents

hope this helps!

one of those is optional!

[supple gate]

how does this happen? i only beat 13 but at 16?

[modest patio]

For hivescum specifically?

[shut tapir]

yes

[modest patio]

Rocket launcher and needle ranged weapon deal with them very efficiently

Don’t need to specifically make a targeted build I’d say. Though I’ve been surprised by how well Taxe does against them

[hot edge]

double h40 carry

[ashen cape]

blinder grenades keep crushers and bulwarks staggered long enough to melt with uzis

[modest patio]

Pins has a heavy sword build too worth looking at

[shut tapir]

SHEEEESH what are you running?

[iron patrol]

is untouchable even worth running?

like, -50% threat sounds like offloading the aggro to your teammates

[hot edge]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a077e6d8-b36f-4153-a572-09939499d02e/rip

[modest patio]

I don’t run it and I think reducing threat in general teaches bad habits in a game like DT. Unless it does something I’m aware of.

[iron patrol]

that and hate that this doesnt say from current wound

so misleading

[candid flint]

yeah. big reason why you'll never see me run that, or stealth

this game isnt a mmo

idk why it has some mmo talents/perks

[lapis raft]

it would be pretty good if it did not broke enemy ai

[modest patio]

I think this is the exact same talent setup I use for tactical axe. I never even considered shivs

[iron patrol]

shivs are just, better tactical axe

[modest patio]

Also, crazy game. My last H40 only had 3.4M damage across the entire team. You had 2.8 by yourself there lol

[lost ravine]

it is in line with any other corruption clearing talent, no?

[modest patio]

Yes, but doesn’t say it

[lost ravine]

since nothing except for med stim or medicae will actually redo wounds

[modest patio]

I get the annoyance. Because if one talent says it doesn’t cross wound borders and this one doesn’t then you would assume it works differently

[iron patrol]

other talents state between clears corruption (like veteran medicrates) and clears corruption from current wound (like zealot aura) this doesnt say current wound but only cleans current wound

and considering scum surfs the line between a full chunk and a completely corrupted chunk regardless as their entire design is dodge or die this thing does fuck all

[final temple]

I mean. It clears corruption. scum never runs wounds to begin with. but yeah. FS wording be wording.

[worn yoke]

which mk do you use for your taxe?

[modest patio]

7

For what I do

[worn yoke]

i see

i do too

[modest patio]

Though I believe I use 2 on zealot for slightly more angled swings

[worn yoke]

that build can run most melees pretty much imo

[iron patrol]

still, cant drop shivs cause look at that damage line-up

[hasty torrent]

Dump stat for shredder auto pistol?

[zenith fern]

mobility

[candid flint]

whats the dumpstat for [X]? in 90% of cases its going to be mobility, or defenses

[flat lotus]

look at my nickname

shivs/autos build i made

@novel oracle could i bother you to give me some insights that i may have missed with this setup

i saw your desperado build in pins

this is what i came up with

[unreal stirrup]

what is this

💀

[flat lotus]

?

i dont see anything wrong with it

except that i could take swift endurance

[flat lotus]

if u see an issue with it u could tell me

its literally the pinned desperado build except i took sweet spot and nimble over pickpocket and swift endurance

[iron patrol]

tertium welcome is such a bad skip

[flat lotus]

and blackouts

[iron patrol]

you want sample collector with klay stimms no?

isnt that the main appeal of desperado

like, reflex klay stim

pickpocket to not run out of ammo

[keen timber]

why would you skip pickpocket

why would you skip pickpocket for hypercrit too

[iron patrol]

unless you are going hard into melee with a needler you should always go for the pickpocket

[unreal stirrup]

pick pocket is alway good

and good amount of scum melee weapon is crit based

so its like no brainer

[brittle sierra]

Hello chat

[keen timber]

if ur going melee build u can skip pickpocket pretty easily

[unreal stirrup]

skip the sweetspot

+25% weakspot damage is nothing

[keen timber]

in havoc, with like rot armour on, id say keep it and get a needle pistol

[keen timber]

it's not that bad

[iron patrol]

its pretty solid

[keen timber]

it's good enough it's taken regularly on vet for example

yeah

[brittle sierra]

Buddy just use this: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[unreal stirrup]

because its the only good option out of the three not because you have choice

💀

[keen timber]

no like

u literally go into it even when ur pushing down weap spec

lol?

[brittle sierra]

Weakspot actually gives some weapons breakpoints

Like Rashad

[iron patrol]

isnt it multiplicative?

[flat lotus]

yeah thinking about it im just going to get rid of sweet spot for pickpocket

[unreal stirrup]

weakspot STRENGTH is mulplicative

weakspot damage is just bonus damage to the weakspot bonus

[idle ore]

Think it’s mostly for specific breakpoints on get weapons

[iron patrol]

obese aquatic being and its words

[flat lotus]

i was thinking about in terms of melee but i think id rather just prioritize pickpocket

that is the only reason i got rid of pocket

[unreal stirrup]

so its way worse than you think

[unreal stirrup]

i mean youre on scum

you have adrenaline

[iron patrol]

melee scums breakpoint is swinging again to be fair

[flat lotus]

i think ill just go with this

[unreal stirrup]

i dont remember if sweetspot is enough to hit any bp with rashad

[brittle sierra]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a07a0cea-46de-4afb-ba97-8ed478d8603e/professional-crack-dealer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[flat lotus]

i also wanted to ask

if ur desperado, klay is going to be better than kalma v, yes?

[iron patrol]

of course?

[flat lotus]

ur going to hate the pinned builds

[iron patrol]

its 75% for 1 second, if you unload into a horde its thrice as good as the kalma v no?

[flat lotus]

i ask because ive tried both and i think i prefer klay myself

[unreal stirrup]

@brittle sierra ok it does make rashad 1 shot scab bruiser on h40

[flat lotus]

but idk

[unreal stirrup]

with adrenaline

[brittle sierra]

Same with all shooters

[unreal stirrup]

you dont need sweet spot for shooter

scab bruiser is the most important bp atm

[brittle sierra]

It also effects the breakpoint for gunners

[unreal stirrup]

what bp

[iron patrol]

im between sticky hands and extended stimms now that i realized it says weakspot damage and not strength

[brittle sierra]

Light crit

Also breakpoints are important for Rashad because you want to be swinging as little as possible

[unreal stirrup]

iik

but i didnt know sweet spot is actually enouigh for scab bruiser lmao

[brittle sierra]

BM also benefits from breakpoints

[brittle sierra]

You asking for advice? Or asking for some pets?

[flat lotus]

pets?

[zenith fern]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-cat-shaking-cat-alien-cat-gif-17719290639671130907

I want to stop using the slop nades

[iron patrol]

you gotta slop them

[flat lotus]

i swapped to blackouts because all of my teammates kept eating the grenades

lol

[zenith fern]

Thats why I only love bringing rocks and blinders

because they replenish themselves and have better uses

[flat lotus]

also because its easy for me to kite around and get enough kills to regen them

so.

[brittle sierra]

Fatshark when will you fix the stun grenade bug? 😔

[worn yoke]

i bring rocket launcher because i like big booms

[foggy path]

Is shiv better than knife

[worn yoke]

[unreal stirrup]

knife better single target

shiv little better horde clear

shiv is also easier to use

[foggy path]

Thanks!

[flat lotus]

one is awesome brainrot weapon (i love shivs)

the other is dreadfully unfun

both are however good in their own ways

[iron patrol]

shivs got damage numbers like these, awesome brainrot weapon frfr

[tranquil fjord]

i hope all weapons get their base rending buffed but uncanny is nerfed like on the shivs

because they already have such high base rending

[iron patrol]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0b3b6e1-0efc-405f-b5ab-a535f21258a3/tweaker-of-tertium

[worn yoke]

trying the ranged build i made yesterday and its actually going really good!

[candid flint]

yeah its busted and fun

[zenith fern]

Got myself a 3+ stamina and one 17 toughness curios

[light phoenix]

Hello

I'm having difficulty melee-scumming with Rampage! Any tips? Or just git gud?

[candid flint]

tbh, it is pretty much get good

master the fundamentals of combat

dont let yourself get surrounded, or cornered. kite enemies in those situations

dodge frequently. more than you think you have to

[light phoenix]

The withdrawal of Rampage! really messes me up, almost to the point I don't wanna use it lol

[candid flint]

its fun

[kind mist]

Which weapon?

[light phoenix]

Anyway I can mitigate that?

[zenith fern]

with what melee you going with it?

[light phoenix]

Using Caxe

[candid flint]

if you know rampage is going to run out, back out of the engagement

[kind mist]

The shout on end gives you time to recover, or the talent to get back stamina on dodging.

[candid flint]

sometimes it is better to stay in the engagement, so you can keep on the aggression (being aggressive means more toughness regen)

[light phoenix]

Which talent is that?

[kind mist]

somewhere in the middle

[candid flint]

these

i also run 3x stam regen perks on my curios

[light phoenix]

Aights will try and adjust my build to include that

I've only recently managed to get two 3 stam curios

[candid flint]

im not running stam curios

i am running 2x toughness, 1x hp

[light phoenix]

Oh you mean perks

[candid flint]

yes

[light phoenix]

Haven't tried yet, out of diamantine haha

[zenith fern]

Most benefitial curios are most 3x toughness or 2x tough and one 3+ stamina

[light phoenix]

Gotta start farming

[zenith fern]

shout does apply same stagger from veteran shout too

[astral canyon]

3x stamina or no balls

[rotund agate]

Forge's Bellow node of Rampage ult

[zenith fern]

maximum melee speed

[light phoenix]

How fast is it? Actually worth?

[zealous ravine]

i mean you lose a lot of tgh/hp but it is pretty funny

[astral canyon]

Should be +26% attack speed on shivs just from that talent (6% from base 3 stamina, 2% from shivs' 1 stamina, 18% from curios

[zealous ravine]

what you can do is stack every single bit of stamina you can, all the attack speed boosts from the tree, AS stimm and then the box cutter shivs

what this accomplishes is that it gives you carpal tunnel

[astral canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-look-what-they-need-to-mimic-a-fraction-of-our-power-gif-25672186

Cookie clicker players:

[zealous ravine]

truth nuke

i'd probably have to use some keep swinging mod for max AS build box cutters so my hand doesnt fall off

[zenith fern]

hilariously fun, add it with adrenaline keystone it becomes stupid

[astral canyon]

Also rampage

[worn yoke]

might remove jittery for pocket toxin if im bored of boombringer and want stun nades

[candid flint]

i prefer boombringer on ranged scum because of crusher packs, which most ranged weapons struggle with

[worn yoke]

oh yeah for sure

[candid flint]

every other build, i prefer stun nades

[worn yoke]

fair for me its boom or chem i like things exploding in some form

[zenith fern]

also speed special stimm

[zealous ravine]

with invul on

idek if i was hitting heads i might redo

[astral canyon]

Now do it without

[slim mesa]

Imma need someone to explain couple'a things to me about some stuff in the skilltree

[zealous ravine]

its actually not too terrible though this isnt 200 lmao

[astral canyon]

Now do it vs scab ragers

[zealous ravine]

wouldnt that be easier

1s

[astral canyon]

Alright then

Crushers

[zealous ravine]

lmao

[astral canyon]

500 crushers

[zenith fern]

Holy fuck LMAO

[zealous ravine]

i wonder though

how it'd do against crushers

[astral canyon]

If you say "wouldnt it be easier" again youre going up against bulwarks next

[zealous ravine]

yeah im hoping bonesaw/crowbar can also do funny results

[zealous ravine]

ROCKET GO!!!!

[astral canyon]

Shivs only

[zenith fern]

Is this 3x stamina curios too?

From clip

[zealous ravine]

yes

its max AS

even taking that goofy 4% attack speed stugn immunity node

wait no i lied i wasnt using +2 stamina on the shivs

its 4% slower than it should be

[zenith fern]

You can find breakdown of all talents in pinned guide here

[slim mesa]

thx a lot

[bronze glade]

you're using mk3 shivs here right??

[astral canyon]

Yes

[zenith fern]

Absolute zoomies

[astral canyon]

I wonder what the mk2 shiv would be

[bronze glade]

ok good

mk1 is better

but if you want to do the meme

might as well embrace it

and use mk3

[astral canyon]

Actually why are they even called by marks

Its a bunch of scrap metal

[molten shale]

Might be used ironically

[pallid quail]

cus the imperium loves bureaucracy

[astral canyon]

They shouldve unironically just called them "stabby" and "slashy"

[pallid quail]

all weapons used by the inquisitorial retinue must be catalogued so the information may later be obfuscated lest it fall into enemy hands

[echo python]

Techlady please bless my sharpened pipes

[zealous ravine]

better than i e xpected

[jaunty spire]

Is there a crit rate difference between the vraks infantry auto gun and the dual auto pistols?

[zealous ravine]

thoguh i still exploded to an overhead

[zenith fern]

Now do rotten crushers

[zealous ravine]

im killing you

[zenith fern]

[astral canyon]

Now do bulwarks

[zealous ravine]

not happening

[zenith fern]

Rocket br upon they

[astral canyon]

Alright

Now do burgles

500 burgles

[astral canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-orville-orville-500-cigarettes-bortus-cigarette-gif-7817588290560023790

[slim mesa]

servitor staring at the pipes that were a part of engine fuel line half an hour ago

[iron patrol]

blinders are mandatory, if you press dodge and dont move your instant reflex should be tossing a blinder on the floor

[unique dagger]

average havoc 40 lobby

[iron patrol]

i have a autoclicker set up to spam m1 at will, this allows immense gameplay advantages such as not tiring out after one mission

[zealous ravine]

immense gameplay advantages like not ruining your own life forever

[iron patrol]

i am already playing darktide, the damage tylenol has done is permanent at this point

[brittle sierra]

50 BONKERS

[final temple]

I take ibuprofen for my finger joints and premature arthritis from tiding. and I will die of liver failure because of that. Only in death, duty ends.

[zealous ravine]

i expected to crash

[brittle sierra]

POV: 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮

[astral canyon]

500 chaos spawns

[keen timber]

LOL

[low harbor]

Yes
Vraks 5 inf auto has -2% crit chance, 3 crit string
Dual auto has +5% crit chance, no crit string

[manic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-40k-dreadnaught-gif-3420657561926638876

[charred bronze]

what was vorrock doing the whole time???

[unique dagger]

emotional support

[worn yoke]

holy framerate

[charred bronze]

I started getting this and worse after installing power DI and the ovenproof scoreboard plugin. I tried removing them one at a time until frames were normal again, but I ended up having to strip everything one at a time, reinstall scoreboard and disable and reenable mods til it was back to normal.

Still don't know what was causing it.

sucks, cuz I love data

[trim wind]

power di is famously resource intensive i believe

[charred bronze]

yeah, was happening even after I removed it

maybe I'll get brave and try the ovenproof plugin on its own

but it was such a huge pita to fix that I'm gun shy atm

[zealous ravine]

i expected worse lmao

[trim wind]

ovenproof scoreboard is lightweight, wouldn't affect anything

[neon fern]

31 deaths holy shit

also hamdol ur shiv rampage build is awsme

thx u v much for it

[charred bronze]

okay, I'll give it a shot now

[worn yoke]

may i see it too

[neon fern]

i don't have it on hand

ask hamdol

[charred bronze]

hm, seeing significant frame losses again after install in the hub. Normally never dips below 100 frames, got as low as 60

I'll try a match

[trim wind]

That's pretty abnormal

[charred bronze]

so was the game getting totally unplayable with power di

not sure what's up with my particular setup that causes it. 7800x3d, 3080 rog strix, plenty of ddr5. Shouldn't be an issue

[worn yoke]

go into havoc 34-35 just to get 2 immediate dcs

:(

[bronze glade]

meme gamemode

[charred bronze]

in-game was fine though

[ripe seal]

I never tried it all, how useful is the sprint dodge angle skill?

[charred bronze]

currently, useless

before teh dodge range bug, pretty good

[limber cradle]

Id say rn with the dodge linger change, not very

[charred bronze]

it was noticeable

a lot safer to charge gunner positions

[ripe seal]

i'm still not entirely sure what sprint dodge angle even does

[charred bronze]

not essential, but good

[limber cradle]

There's a diagram somewhere

[astral canyon]

#hivescum-class message

[ripe seal]

probably better for it than untouchable

[astral canyon]

Talent increases size of green area

[rotund agate]

doesn't sliding also give ranged I-frames?

[ripe seal]

cool but the angle seems like it'd be hard to take advantage up without doing funky movement

[rotund agate]

run towards one gunner, and the other gunners cannot shred you along the way (assuming they are not in a big blob)

[ripe seal]

given that 90% of the time enemies are directly in front or behind you, or in a spot where they'd be in the 70 degree angle

[livid raven]

yeah it's a trash talent

[jaunty sail]

infantry autogun is literally so busted i cant stop using it its amazing i love this game now thanks fatfish for florida man expansion

next up i guess railgun with cryptoid hadron glazer expansion class

[shut tapir]

finally have a use for my preorder skin, im leveling duelies now

[worn yoke]

desperado iag is incredibly fun and effective

[stray spear]

Any ideal blessings or refinements for combat knife on hivescum?

[jaunty sail]

Fuck yes my man

Cranking the crack to the max

[worn yoke]

im going to assume uncanny strike as one of the blessings

[jaunty sail]

Methamethics

[worn yoke]

pretty much a must have for any weapon that has it

[stray spear]

Makes sense!

[worn yoke]

2nd blessing could probably be precog or riposte? but i havent used much combat blade on scum yet

[worn yoke]

made a desperado vultures mark ranged build yesterday and its working out pretty well in havoc

[jaunty sail]

Share the crack man

Don’t microdose your fellow floridian

[worn yoke]

sure

[jaunty sail]

Literal king

https://tenor.com/view/plug-shoebody-bop-ritual-cult-gif-383974090492735392

Me and homies praise you

[limber cradle]

Fwiw you can dump ammo on vraks

It loses 2 rounds in the mag and iirc 22 total

[worn yoke]

oh thats a good point

idk where id reallocate that one tbh

how much of an effect does sweet spot have on ranged builds

[candid flint]

depends on the gun used

some guns get measurable value

others do not

[limber cradle]

I like it specifically for vraks but don't think its required by any measure

[worn yoke]

makes sense

50 more missions and thats every hive scum penance done

[final temple]

THEN you can finally play the class.

[vast yoke]

oughgufuchcck precog uncanny mk3 cknife rampage is actually so fun

it's stealth zealot levels of damage with every swing what the fuck 😭

[exotic temple]

Yeah I saw someone post a true duo h40 with that set up. It’s looks badass I just need to make the time to try it

Everyone dogged the mk3 and I’m like that looks pretty badass Ngl

[ancient basin]

is that the push stab one?

[supple gate]

can you have 4 hive scums stacking their stimms with stimm supply?

[candid flint]

yes, and it can break things

stack enough -recoil, and it will uhh 'interger underflow' into giving weaposn increased recoil

i have seen ult cooldown reduction looping into ult cooldown increasing

where i had a 1000+ second cooldown on stimm supply

[pallid quail]

how does anything overflow in darktide its not like the values are that high ?

n the cooldown increasing thing is just a display bug far as i can tell

[candid flint]

it happened at the end of a mission, so i was unable to thoroughly test

[candid flint]

idk but ive seen it

recorded here and there

[main wagon]

Hehe I too got infinite stim crate CD

Funnily enough it's actually off CD and works if you throw it down

We love spaghetti

[tight musk]

Apparently if you shoot the ground with needle gun's blue mode, it will add a single stack of toxin to all enemies in a small AoE, but without any of the special effects from the blue mode.

[modest patio]

that much better than the shivs?

[supple gate]

does toughness regen on the stimm also count towards the penance?

[sharp obsidian]

i'm not sure how to complete the enhanced penance - am i missing something?

[trim wind]

jam toughness regain stimms in, supply crate with sample collector makes it alot faster

[shy blaze]

hey ! what do cartel really change inpersonnalisation ?

[limber cradle]

Access to a few tattoos

[trim wind]

Your tattoo options

[shy blaze]

i se e 4 color, if i pick the purple one, will i only use purple color for tatoo ?

do we got a thing to see the different option ? for tatoos, and other thing that artel affiliation change

[limber cradle]

No, its a little symbol that changes on 4 of the tattoos

[shy blaze]

oh oki

[limber cradle]

You lose access to the other 3 that aren't your gang

[shy blaze]

oki ty , and do the prequel is the same as old class ? or is it a new prequel exclusif to hivescum

[limber cradle]

Uh? The video?

The video is unique to scum iirc

[shy blaze]

nah the, mm u know the beggining didact i can choose to passit or do it

[limber cradle]

The campaign is not unique to scum

You can skip it

[shy blaze]

oki, ty!

[limber cradle]

No problem

[sharp obsidian]

thanks! <3

[candid flint]

yw

[rich carbon]

hey what mod did you use to make this HUD?

is it just HUDTweaker?

[trim wind]

Looks like a tie fighter

[woeful hill]

playing Darktide 2

[rich carbon]

specifically, I love the ally displays

[grand jewel]

I don't

[rich carbon]

like ok there's a lot I like and a lot I don't

[rancid coral]

31 deaths what the fuck

2 people with 3 mill dmg

O_o

[tropic crag]

they got stalled out a few times with those numbers lol

[modest patio]

for sure lol

[unique dagger]

rotten armor / red duo basically

[dense meadow]

So Focused Resolve is worthless yes?

5 seconds of cooldown restored on a 45 second cooldown ability seems like a drop in the bucket.

[tropic crag]

i think its more like 5 seconds off 20 or 30 seconds or whatever the cooldown stim brings you down to

like its something you'd stack with cooldown stim

but yeah its not like... an allstar node or something

but yeah i've not done cooldown based builds before but i assumed that was both what people are doing with that node and why the node has a 5 second limit on it when other classes don't have that... because scum has the massive built in cd reduction without any nodes

[dense meadow]

Secondary question, did they fix the autopistols not getting any reload speed boosts yet?

[tropic crag]

honestly i use melee builds so much i'm not even aware of all the issues with guns like that so it would have to be someone else to answer

[supple torrent]

Not worth. Too many other skills that are way more impactful

[grand jewel]

yes

fixed it before HS was live

[supple torrent]

I think scum cdr is pretty inline with other classes considering one is tied to a keystone, its cooldown regeneration and it maxes at 40%. And the other is tied to stimms. Plus they desoerado and rampage have their cooldowns paused while they're in use.

[tropic crag]

100% i was saying that the oddity of the 5s limit on that one node is to keep it in line with the current power curve of cd reduction

[supple torrent]

At this point just delete the node. At least rampage and stimm supply have interesting secondary effects.

[brittle sierra]

i lit just joined

[pastel garden]

its your fault

[supple torrent]

I wish players would just stick around for the wipe

[brittle sierra]

someone explain

please

[pastel garden]

well you see psykers are glass cannons

[brittle sierra]

is this a bait?

[pastel garden]

no im being fr

[bronze glade]

waiter waiter more psyker buffs

[pastel garden]

yea the fact that i can be damaged as a psyker feels like an oversight

[drifting heron]

It basically is

[pastel garden]

but more importantly

crowbar needs a buff

[tropic crag]

its weird to me that people don't, i assume they lose ALOT and can't realize they are probably the problem

[supple torrent]

I doubt thats the issue. They just don't want to wait for a rez or the end screen. So they just quit out. There's 0 pernalty for it and nobody cares about resources

[tropic crag]

the penalty is the impression of being a baby butt to the remaining people

[supple torrent]

Yeah but neither of us will remember the one dude who left.

[tropic crag]

i remember some of them

they often have either rude or really "same joke" style names

[pastel garden]

tbf the bot replacing the player can very rarely save the game

[supple torrent]

I dont want a game thats saved by a bot. We lost

[tropic crag]

you usually can tell when someone is trying that because they'll load back in to the loss screen

unless the bot insta dies and doesn't pick someone up

[supple torrent]

Its usually when someone just disconnects randomly without going down. But if someone goes down and instantly dcs when they died. They simply quit out

[slim mesa]

In which way

[supple torrent]

Make mode swap faster

[tropic crag]

crowbar mostly feels fine beside it could use some cleaning up in how the special button works

[jaunty sail]

I try to motivate people to stop leaving by saying just before game starts that if you leave you have no balls or taunting reverse psychology 101 “let’s see who dies and quits first”

[tropic crag]

yeah making the swap smoother

[jaunty sail]

Somehow works

[tropic crag]

i hope i run into you just so i can pull the gag of running off a cliff right after spawn and quitting out

[jaunty sail]

That would be meta play and I wouldn’t even be angry