hivescum-class

[calm aurora]

No pulverizing strikes???

[novel oracle]

Its 25% of the weakspot bonus, not the total hit when you hit the head

[solar phoenix]

but the buff prob isn't enough

true

forgot

[hasty agate]

Why is it that the weak spot node is avoided like the plague? Regardless of build?

[solar phoenix]

thanks

[calm aurora]

Why cheapshots

[dim moth]

should totally be weakspot strength this owuld be balanced

[calm aurora]

And no pulv

[novel oracle]

I see a lot of people taking it
I just think other talents take you further

Its also less than vets too lol

[narrow dagger]

yea just got a group 3 guys insta down at start havoc is doomed

[calm aurora]

25 vs 30

[novel oracle]

Vet relies more on breakpoints too

[wide mauve]

Anyone know if Chem fortified also gives 50% toughness to allies with stim supply?

[tranquil berry]

might help stack up that hyper violence though

can't hurt

[novel oracle]

So that 30% weakspot could make the difference between 1 shots and 2 shots

But scum doesn't really care about that

Theyre a blender

[tranquil berry]

and also, hyper-critical is basically a floating breakpoint

so more is always potentially more

[novel oracle]

I dont ever take hyper crit with hyper violence

[dim moth]

real

[novel oracle]

It can mess up hyperviolence which is arguably much stronger on a melee build

[dim moth]

playing the fucking "support" scum and it's a 100% crit chance lawnmower that rips through everything in melee

[hasty agate]

What is the base crit chance on the shivs?

[dim moth]

12.5%

[zenith pagoda]

165 FPS and my game is a slideshow

[mighty belfry]

To see the day where a class can outdo a purge psyker in raw killing power

Makes me shed a tear...

[broken bear]

yea the synergy is HV into HC not HC into HV right

[novel oracle]

Yeah

[amber sundial]

you're right, we should buff psyker again

[zenith pagoda]

But but the class is so weak!

[mighty belfry]

STOP

[novel oracle]

But hyper violence can feed into itself
Hyper crit stops right there

[zealous ravine]

next update will be buffing scriers gaze and nerfing dclaw

[mighty belfry]

not havoc viable whatsoever!!!!!

stimm crate is so fun

[zealous ravine]

havoc 😨

[amber sundial]

next update adds stats to cosmetics

[broken bear]

slight overkill right guys

[zealous ravine]

uh could be maybe

[novel oracle]

My opinion of scum crate has temporarily changed due to a but that popped up in the latest hotfix

[dim moth]

yeah just replacing your active ability with "actually I want my stimm active the entire mission please"

[broken bear]

4 20 stacks versus 1 20 stack

totally fair

[dim moth]

is it the one where your framerate fucking dies and your stimm instantly comes off cooldown for some reason when you use crate sometimes

[novel oracle]

No

[zealous ravine]

😨 ?

[novel oracle]

If you crate on stim cooldown, enter, exit, and reenter the base effect crate

Youll get the stim effect

[zealous ravine]

holy hell more stimms

[mighty belfry]

ye, found this out yesterday while playing

[zealous ravine]

finally real stimmhead gameplay

[mighty belfry]

i have maybe, been abusing that a tad

by having more cooldown regen in my stimms

but we don't need to talk about that

[dim moth]

youknow that doesn't sound very balanced

[novel oracle]

This actually means that until its patched chem dep has a purpose with crate

[zealous ravine]

build synergy is REAL

[novel oracle]

And you can put in max stimms

[mighty belfry]

I'll be honest, even with that in mind, the other two abilities are just more straightforward and generally stronger for personal benefit

[zealous ravine]

only crate build i've ran in a gam has been funny 1 point into stimm tox crate

that was silly

[dim moth]

oh wait no I misread

I thought cole said that you could do that to stack stimm effect repeatedly

xd

[novel oracle]

With 4x chem dep and a 50% crate thing you couldn't really stack more than one anyway

[novel oracle]

No its one time

[dim moth]

I wouldn't mind crate just working loike that

[novel oracle]

It just means you can basically fake a stimmed crate

[zealous ravine]

i'd actually use crate then

a bit at least

[mighty belfry]

Me hoping the broken part of this is that you need to walk into the radius, not that you can gain the benefits when stimm's off cooldown

Please Fatshark it would be so funny

[hasty agate]

When you guys say 100% crit chance on scum do you actually mean 92.5%? Because that’s all I can total out. Unless I’m missing something.

[novel oracle]

With chem dep?

[dim moth]

Base crit 10%+12.5% from shivs/tactical axe/knife, 20% from Float Like a Butterfly, 20% from Shred/Riposte, 5% from Anarchist, 15% from Stimm, 15% from chem dependency

97.5%

4 stack chem dependency is 100%

[manic wolf]

Well... Shock Baton Psyker is still very funny

[novel oracle]

Theres a 5% stat node too

[dim moth]

oh right

forgot about that lil' guy

[hasty agate]

I forgot the stim. That’s it

[dim moth]

so yeah it is real 100% crit chance

[idle ore]

does attack speed from stim benefit fire rate?

[dim moth]

can have great uptime too with stimm crate

[dim moth]

yes

it is just global attack speed so gun shoot faster too

[novel oracle]

Just be aware on stuff like the dual autos
It makes recoil go crazy

[haughty trout]

Stimm supply applying stimms doesn't interact with dependancy, right?

[amber sundial]

it does

it was changed to

[dim moth]

it gives you a stack of it and any of your scum teammates with dependency also get a stack

[haughty trout]

mmk, glad it was changed.

Heard it didn't, but hadn't checked if it had been changed (or if what I heard was wrong)

[amber sundial]

last hotfix was the one to change it to work iirc

also was the hotfix that caused psyker bugs

[zenith pagoda]

Do I take bromentum for taxe on h40? Or do I max cleave? @novel oracle

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-cat-lick-gif-10144758042871786903

[steep goblet]

Going between space marine 2 and hive scum is so jarring, like ik a space marine prob can run laps around a hive scum but it feels so slow

[amber sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-darktide-get-away-shoo-disappear-gif-5683568285290773389

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-heretics-warhammer40k-40k-gif-27153016

[zealous ravine]

https://tenor.com/rktjCb4Ds4s.gif

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-darktide-hop-on-ogryn-squad-up-warhammer-gif-4589686314246288789

[manic wolf]

Is this Zealot chat?

[zealous ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-san-andreas-gta-san-andreas-gta-sa-gta-gif-24119203

gang activities

[glad latch]

https://tenor.com/view/500-stims-helldivers-helldivers-2-helldiver-stims-gif-14163659942191692383

Me when playing chem dep

[small cape]

What perks/traits do I want for the needle gun and bone saw?

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/500-stims-helldivers-helldivers-2-helldiver-stims-gif-14163659942191692383

[hasty agate]

Can I still benefit from Long Lasting (+5s stim duration), with stim supply? Or does stim supply negate it?

[sullen ridge]

bet you guys are jealous that i replaced my internal monologue with the fem anarchist's voice

just working on the tulpa now

[ornate rivet]

Wait since when there's a new class?

[dim moth]

doesn't work

[dim moth]

just under 2 weeks ago

[amber sundial]

dec 2nd

[hasty agate]

I am pleased to hear that honestly.

[reef skiff]

i just found a hive scum in the mourningstar simply named "poop"

[amber sundial]

such creativity

i'd say give them a gold star but i dont think anyone wants to touch them.

[charred bronze]

is it server issues or a bug? Anyone else experiencing pushes just. . . Not working at all? You push and nothing happens?

[amber sundial]

as in it does the animation and no push is registered or you cant push

[charred bronze]

as in full animation happens, and the target directly in front you doesn't react at all

[amber sundial]

probably server issue then

[charred bronze]

just happened with a dog. Happened previously with a burster.

[leaden lark]

anyone got a build for stimm supply?

I'd love to see it

[amber sundial]

#hivescum-class message

this was posted earlier

[sullen ridge]

idk it at least makes you FEEL like youre freaking awesome and cool even if most of the effort is spent trying not to shoot the ceiling

[wind crane]

do u get more dmg taken / toughness bypass if u get hit in the back?

[zealous ravine]

oh that cant be allowed

[dim moth]

yeah by ME

[zealous ravine]

thats getting nerfed next patch

[amber sundial]

yeah by YOU

[sullen ridge]

move over bully ogryn ive got a new best friend

[zenith pagoda]

Taxe is amazing with HC and HV

[reef skiff]

brawler ogryn

[zenith pagoda]

What is?

[sullen ridge]

fuuuuuck youre so unbelievably real

[zealous ravine]

darktide personalities becoming thoughtforms

[near vapor]

bromentum and headtaker always

[reef skiff]

i use the female Bounty Hunter voice for Hive Scum, no-one else really uses it but i like it

[near vapor]

her voice is cute

[loud herald]

I appreciate lady bounty hunters

I play mine as male outlaw

but he's min height so he's just a small angry crack addict who just wants the best for people

my arb is min height too

[reef skiff]

i have my hive scum as the max height so its always funny when i see short people in the mourningstar

[loud herald]

I should make my vet min height....

[radiant swift]

I maxed my height for once

[zenith pagoda]

But doesn't bromentum only work for the first 3 enemies?

[radiant swift]

hitting heads with a melee weapon has never been easier

[loud herald]

'avin' a laff are ye bruv?

[reef skiff]

your name checks out

[loud herald]

lmao

[dim moth]

four

[loud herald]

it was suppoed to be an english accent

but

yeah

[dim moth]

and it "works" because it instantly kills them

[near vapor]

its also just extra head damage

[amber sundial]

everyone ive played with goes max height so my little gutter rat of a hivescum is perfect height to break their ankles :)

[loud herald]

felt that

[near vapor]

Ive run bromentum headtaker taxe on h40 its perfectly usable

[dim moth]

ignoring hit mass means you ignore cleave damage distribution

[zenith pagoda]

But for single target decimator and relentless is much better no?

[dim moth]

so the attack does full damage until it kills 4 enemies or doesn't kill something

[reef skiff]

as someone who is 6'0 irl i feel this

[loud herald]

i'm 6'0 too

(I think)

maybe i'm 5'11 idk

[reef skiff]

tall dwarf

[near vapor]

not really

deci loses stacks on a miss

[loud herald]

this is why I play short characters

[near vapor]

headtaker doesnt so it just has better uptime

[reef skiff]

what does the min height look like for ogryns

[loud herald]

i'll never know what's it like to not have mr fantastic arms

so I play games to feel the experience of it

[zenith pagoda]

It doesn't, it just only lasts like 1 second

[dim moth]

decimator does infact also lose all stacks on a miss

[zealous ravine]

:(

[reef skiff]

i like that there are two different conversations happening at once

[loud herald]

lmao

my arch nemesis contract I never ever do

[narrow dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[amber sundial]

hey at LEAST its not play X games without teammates suiciding

[loud herald]

I don't get why the grims/scrips suck so much in this game reward wise

vs vermintide

[young herald]

rock it, short king

[reef skiff]

tf you call me

[loud herald]

LOL

[zealous ravine]

fatshar forgo scrips and grims exist

[narrow dagger]

you check your weekly missions?

[zealous ravine]

i mean so did i lol

[loud herald]

yeah cause I like gambling on curios with melkbux™

[narrow dagger]

fair enough

[young herald]

the books are unrewarding because fatshark saw people getting into spats over book runs vs non-book runs and went "fuck it, we ball"

[leaden lark]

what about the weapons? Anything specific or would shivs/stub pistols works well

[loud herald]

ah fair

[narrow dagger]

normal books ok stinky books not ok

[loud herald]

I got a +3 stam curio and two +16% toughness curios

out of gambling

so I think i'm good for now lol

[amber sundial]

yo what weapons did you use for that build btw

[reef skiff]

see, gambling pays off

what did we learn

[loud herald]

[narrow dagger]

ALWAYS

[loud herald]

never quit, all in always

[amber sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-stop-winning-lets-go-gambling-gif-7706745854605433240

[young herald]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-farquaad-walking-looking-around-tom-short-gif-8210239152748967955

[sonic pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gambling-gambler-gif-572068894331490223

[reef skiff]

all i did was mention gambling and yall turn into gambler sleeper agents or something

[narrow dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466328691539181571/1287945703401853029/image0.gif

[young herald]

fr though, i got my full set of curios for only 35k melkbux

[dim moth]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a08d5fc2-56f8-401b-99a0-ee054340b580/100-crit-chance-poop-knife

bolt pistol for bigger blinders is also an option

[amber sundial]

this one message above^

[young herald]

the only valid weapon for scum is chaxe

[narrow dagger]

does bolt pistol makes chem nades radius bigger

[young herald]

maybe heavy sword if you stick your pinky out when you drink

[reef skiff]

i'm running the combat knife and bolt pistol rn

[young herald]

i haven't tested it, but I believe no

[amber sundial]

lethal proximity affects all explosions you make while you hold the bistol out

[loud herald]

what build do yall use for chaxe, I never have used it ever

[amber sundial]

oh wait

didnt see chem

uhhh probably not?

[young herald]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a086ba12-2d12-456f-82c0-231dee223a07/ride-the-meat-bicycle

[narrow dagger]

yea ik about explosives

[loud herald]

ty

[zealous ravine]

my chainaxe build is the one wher i dont use chainaxe tbh

[young herald]

let's go test it

[zenith pagoda]

No?

[young herald]

yes

[zealous ravine]

yes

[amber sundial]

yes

[young herald]

decimator loses all stacks if you don't hit anything

[reef skiff]

yes

[zealous ravine]

no

[zenith pagoda]

I can see it keeps stacks

[narrow dagger]

im too lazy for that

[novel oracle]

It loses all stacks on a miss

[zealous ravine]

loud

[narrow dagger]

didnt i saw this convo 5 mins ago

[reef skiff]

im gonna cast this to my familys TV like a hypnosis video

[zealous ravine]

this is photoshopped

[young herald]

as soon as you attack and don't hit anything, you lose all stacks

[near vapor]

fake and misinformation...

lies

heresy

!!!

[zealous ravine]

actually it doesnt even play yet

[reef skiff]

me when i hear information i dont like

[narrow dagger]

imperium-core

[zealous ravine]

ok it plays now but only the audio

ok it somehow plays properly now

[young herald]

looks like the answer is "no"

[near vapor]

discord is like that

[zealous ravine]

why are discord videos so fricked up

[narrow dagger]

thanks for info

[young herald]

it's probably some codec steam uses to encode videos not playing nice with discord's embed features or something

[near vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-docks-shawty-triflin-shawty-triflin-she-gif-22455514

[zealous ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-watcher-morgan-freeman-true-let's-have-a-watch-gif-12470968642107771982

[sonic pumice]

Maybe I haven't seen enough Scums, but I'm glad we enacted restraint to not make Jinx/Harley Quinn wannabes day 1

[radiant swift]

https://i.redd.it/yn7lizvdc07g1.gif

[young herald]

i see joker knock-offs out the ass though

[near vapor]

oh that issue

probably because Op uses H265 encoding for steam recording

[young herald]

i am lowkey kinds surprised i've only seen like 2 people going for borderlands looks though

[near vapor]

wait is that its claled again

[sonic pumice]

Funny considering that the masks do looks cool

[novel oracle]

H265 iirc

[near vapor]

aye that

turn that off because afaik some older hardware dont play h265 vids

[zealous ravine]

it works fine outside discord fo me

in discord its uh goofy

[manic wolf]

Books need to give like 500 extra plasteed for Scipt and 500 diamantine for Grim

Its like the easiest fuckin fix

[young herald]

i mean, the whole point is that they're not supposed to be highly desirable

[hushed oracle]

I'd love another dual melee tbh. Either tac or combat axes for the Slayer feel. Or two chainaxes just to be ridiculous.

[young herald]

they deliberately made the books give basically nothing so as to avoid what happened in VT2 where players would feel compelled to take the books and bitched about it, or would fight over taking the books vs not and all that

[limber cradle]

Im ngl people just picked up books in most of my vt runs

Like you simply just did it.

[young herald]

I'd be down with going back the other way, I didn't mind it horribly in VT2 and the RNG nature of them meaning it's not on every run would solve 99% of the issue anyway

[manic wolf]

They are an additional objectives and should reward the player as such. If people wanna winge about the books, thats thier perogative, but as it stands, they are useless fluff

[young herald]

but for whatever reason, FS decided the books in DT were gonna be ancillary shit people could engage with if they wanted to farm achievements and completely ignore otherwise

[hushed oracle]

God I hated playing every mission at 60% HP. Ugh.

[limber cradle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[young herald]

the funny part is that cata was unironically easier than legend a lot of the time because people didn't bother with books in cata

which is probably another part FS was trying to avoid, now that I think about it

[zenith pagoda]

Oh lmao

It's a thing with Q tapping

It allows you to keep stacks on miss for some reason

[young herald]

oh that shit, fair enough

i wasn't aware of that specific interaction, but i can't say i'm shocked to hear about it

[zenith pagoda]

I have no idea why

sometimes it does lose stacks and sometimes it doesn't

[limber cradle]

Fatshark

Thats why

[young herald]

https://tenor.com/bOMzb.gif

[leaden lark]

btw

Why do you need chem dependency?

What does it do?

If stimm supply cooldown is 100% tied to stimm cooldown

and chem dependency does not affect stimm cooldown in any way

Why not take literally any other keystone?

[manic wolf]

Its not

[icy scaffold]

DR and Crit are nice too

[iron zenith]

was gonna say this too, even without the ability recharge the passive stats are nice

[manic wolf]

Base cooldown, 60s, improved with Chem Dependancy

[bronze glade]

pretty sure he's just taking it for the crit memes

[trim wind]

Sample collector though

[leaden lark]

Why would I need this without the stimm

It does nothing

[tranquil berry]

20% crit chance and 20% tdr is better than any other keystone

[leaden lark]

and it's difficult to get my stimm cooldown much lower than 60

[tranquil berry]

I can help with that: pick less shit

[zenith pagoda]

It's expensive

That's 4 talents

[tranquil berry]

yeah

still better than any other keystone

[zenith pagoda]

Nah

[limber cradle]

You lot use tertium welcome on shivs?

[tranquil berry]

plus... it's the most thematic. you're a junkie, we all know this, time to go in as one

[dim moth]

15% crit

[tranquil berry]

on every melee build

[dim moth]

can't hit 100 without it

[limber cradle]

Checks out

[low harbor]

u can actually get it in <7s

[novel oracle]

But the point is crate with chem dep

[low harbor]

chem dependency still got issues

[novel oracle]

In this case, the stim is back, so the crate comes back

[novel oracle]

Yeah its really fucked

[low harbor]

even if u have 4 stack dependency + stim CD rate

u still usually get stim back before crate CD is done

[novel oracle]

People just take it all the time cuz woaog cdr!!

[low harbor]

dependency needs to just do smth that's not related to CD

[novel oracle]

The stim is the bottleneck

[low harbor]

I can't think of a single reason to run dependency over adrenaline for chemist build tbh

outside of meme role play ig

[manic wolf]

Highly debatable

[zealous ravine]

i havent ever taken chem dep for cdr

i just do it cause funny crit chance 🔥 🔥

[low harbor]

25% melee dmg & 10% atk speed just scales much better than dependency for lower cost

[manic wolf]

If we're not counting the spectacular amount of bullshit from Vulture's Dodge, Adrenaline is the best keystone

[novel oracle]

You could have vultures mark for 15% crit and almost complete immunity to most damage

[zealous ravine]

except by this point i've fully given up on chem dep it annoying lol

[low harbor]

dependency is just a "do penance then forget" keystone

same tier as arb's TW

[novel oracle]

Yeah and 25% melee damage from adrenaline specifically is massive considering its multiplied with tons of strength from rampage

[manic wolf]

Yer, and blessings and what not

Adrenaline is just stupendous value

[tranquil berry]

and I do, on one build... but it feels like the uptime is more iffy and I will never rely on melee immunity with these servers. My reflexes to path and dodge are more reliable than 1 second if the server lag allows

[trim wind]

it's not something you purposefully rely on, it's a "just in case..." node

[tranquil berry]

for melee I like adrenaline in aurics cause it's good enough and I can not bother keeping track of stim timers and stacks, just swing. but uptime on it is usually around 40%, which isn't great

[manic wolf]

Despite almost every Desperado Scum getting hard carried by that node

[tranquil berry]

too unreliable, too much randomness. i'd rather add more damage or reliable dr (what little there is)

[low harbor]

are u using smiter subnode

[trim wind]

vulture's is just straight better still

[tranquil berry]

using whatever the bottom and bottom-left ones are called

[manic wolf]

I have to ask how you're getting only a 40% uptime on Adrenaline with a melee build..

Like that shit should be up more like 90% of a match

[low harbor]

yea dats the problem

use adrenaline smiter (right side subnode)

[tranquil berry]

that one felt like a bit of a waste of nodes, and the one run I tried it I didn't notice any difference, but I'll give it more of a go I suppose

40% uptime is what I'm averaging for adrenaline in aurics

[manic wolf]

Yeah.. even in Aurics

[tranquil berry]

50 on a full melee squad, 30 if someone keeps shooting my targets

[manic wolf]

I would bet I have matches in Auric where Adrenaline is active from the first mob the the end cutscene lol

[tranquil berry]

I'd love to test it in high havocs but every havoc game I've played lately I've had massive freeze-frames and stuttering devolving into crashing....

[zealous ravine]

i love havoc

[novel oracle]

Smiter gives you a refresh ln axrenaline from 6 minor enemy kills or 2 elites

And you can make it last 20s

[manic wolf]

Plus there is also the 20s active timer

[novel oracle]

Lol

[manic wolf]

Ninja'd 😄

[tranquil berry]

I don't even last 20s in bed...

but I guess it could work...

does it stack with hyper critical kill steals? assuming no

[low harbor]

I don't think the 20s duration is needed

[low harbor]

hypercrit's instakill is melee non-weakspot kill

and counts for adrenaline proc

[tranquil berry]

oh reeeealy? and here I wondered what on kill effects it procs (or doesn't)

[manic wolf]

Hypercritical is kinda mid on a melee build tho

[tranquil berry]

since it doesn't seem to stack the grenade regen

[low harbor]

hypercrit is really strong

[manic wolf]

I gotta be honest, I dont see the point as HV exists and you're gonna be one shotting most stuff in a mixed horde anyway

[tranquil berry]

it's up to double damage if you can crit for 50%+ health... feels nice

[novel oracle]

And hypercrit can cut that short

[manic wolf]

Yeah, no overflow feels bad man

[tranquil berry]

so it doesn't proc that on-kill effect but it does adrenaline stacking? but then, doesn't do blitz regens....

I wonder how it'll work after next week's patch

stay tuned for wheel-of-darktide!

[manic wolf]

It procs on kill stuff, but because Hyperviolence relies on overkill damage, HC doesnt add to that proc

[steel granite]

quick question

[low harbor]

what on-kill effect

[steel granite]

is there any difference between an auric and damnation campaign mission given that neither of em have modifiers

[tranquil berry]

penance

[manic wolf]

Just turn off campain mission QP on mission board, problem solved

[icy scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[zealous ravine]

i've heard the difficulty is the exact same

[low harbor]

auric has higher spawn intensity than damnation (slightly more than damnation hi int)

[zealous ravine]

oh yeah

i entirely forgor that

[tranquil berry]

I think there are penances for completing the new mini-camp on auric

or rather, a penance per difficulty

[steel granite]

ah so they never changed that nice

[tranquil berry]

not sure about the OG camp

[hasty agate]

What exactly do you get from 35% finesse in the cartel special? It’s like a combination of weak spot and crit damage right?

[zealous ravine]

yea

[mossy sedge]

what subnodes to people invest in for adrenaline fury

[manic wolf]

Smiter and Stoked Rage

You could also take the 5% toughness regen node in place of, or in addition to Stoked Rage

[low harbor]

smiter (killing blow for stacks) and TGH/s

20s duration if u really worry abt its uptime vs multiple bosses (almost never an actual problem)

[mossy sedge]

i see

[radiant swift]

also from testing the + stacks on weakpoint hit node doesn't stack with smiter unless you kill with the weakpoint hit

[low harbor]

yea just run smiter

[oblique basin]

Hi, in the recent hotfix the med pack at home is still the default one if I consume my stim first?

[tranquil berry]

I think there's a bug where the crate applies your stim even if it's on cooldown and you can double dip

[tranquil berry]

they forgot to add a check...

exquisite programming skills...

[tropic crag]

or its a bugged flag and the dance causes a recheck that causes the intended behavior

[amber sundial]

Does this mean we can have a relapse of the 5 second stim crate cd

[oblique basin]

Lmao

No way

Aig ok seems fair, no stim then no buff for my comrades

But NOW we get a stack for dependecy keystone from the box sooo

We good I guess

[oblique basin]

I believe this is true, my character sometimes shoots wayyy to fast

And I did exactly that

Stim < box < shoot stuff

[unreal osprey]

does the scumpack count as cartel special for this

[mighty belfry]

but guys what is the box only giving stimm benefits by moving out and in the circle is the bug

what if it's intended to just work regardless

fatshark, you know what to do

[ancient basin]

being able to stack double stims would give box an edge that the other paths kinda have over it for self buffs

its power would at base be from buffing team and exploding into tox stacks normally

but my team is usually already spazing and not getting the buff

[sturdy linden]

the explosion has pitiful aoe

the point of the crate is to supercharge your team

[ancient basin]

free low cooldown CC and dot for crushers and such is nice

[sturdy linden]

I mean, you can stack those 7 dots on crushers with like 3 crits

or 1 pocket tox blackout + 2 crits

[ancient basin]

Im saying you can play it both ways

[manic wolf]

Or just remove them from the material plane with an RPG

[ancient basin]

big buff or small buff

[sturdy linden]

that too

[sturdy linden]

small buff is a waste of time outside of Blight Havoc and I will die on this hill

[rose flax]

9 stacks of you take pocket toxin

Also you can basically have stim supply up the entire match without doing anything lol

[sturdy linden]

that's great, as long as you assume the Crushers will politely hang around in that tiny spot

[rose flax]

Even without sample collector

[hasty agate]

Need peer-review

[rose flax]

Why are you doing it directly on top? You should be doing it where they start moving to. Also if you take the talent that reduces the duration to 5 seconds it's just a bomb lol

[sturdy linden]

I would take the cleave on kill node and take the full speed chain of stimms, because even a 100% visc stimm gets off CD quick enough on sample collector shivs

[rose flax]

Free chem grenade in a way, probably stacks better with blackout due to stagger

[sturdy linden]

also the other mark of shivs is better for this

faster lights

and crit aura instead of damage because tox

[tropic crag]

you press w and make them stay

[lyric spoke]

why don't I spawn with 4 blitz charges when I take extra pouches? Is this a bug?

[hasty agate]

Does going over 100% actually do anything?

[rose flax]

Hive brawler is a waste honestly, if your doing high difficulties
No point of trying to make a glass cannon less glass if you can do more dps to avoid damage, you didn't even take the mobility talents or even slippery customer, which is insane especially if you crouch dodge

[mighty belfry]

uh

What

[tropic crag]

i disagree with so much of this

[hasty agate]

Nah I don’t fuck with slippery customer. And jittery isn’t needed if you don’t spam space bar.

[mighty belfry]

Hive Brawler being a waste is

A take

[rose flax]

Lol it's the equivalent of taking blood drinker on the shade instead of movement speed buff

[mighty belfry]

I don't know if I can agree with that take.

[tropic crag]

like its very easy to make the scum actually tanky, not just less glass.... and theres a ton of value in doing so depending on your goal and playstyle

[rose flax]

Your supposed to avoid damage not tank it

[broken bear]

ogryn should get these as an actual weapon

[mighty belfry]

That isn't always going to happen with several gunners laying into you over range.

[tropic crag]

do both silly, if you can tank hits then you can pull tricks you can't pull when you only dodge

as soon as you can tank hits you can start trading those resources to pull of tricks otherwise un doable

[lunar hamlet]

How many points can u put into three trees of the Stimm lab

[sturdy linden]

this guy gets it

[tropic crag]

and the damage spike of hive city brawler when your rampage wears off is 100% worth it... it means you get a 20% damage bonus to replace the 50% that just wore off

[rose flax]

Your not tanking hits with 20% dr

[hasty agate]

I think you can max out 2 lines and have 2 points left over? Check to make sure

[mighty belfry]

The point is to not tank hits but have a safety net against the ones that naturally will bleed through.

[tropic crag]

my current set up can take 4 burster explosions or 3 sniper shots... or 2 to 3 overheads

i don't normally tank those things... but the burster thing has come in handy recently

[rose flax]

You get hit by those?

[mighty belfry]

Damage resistance affects any form of damage taken.

[hasty agate]

I really don’t believe that hive city brawler is a wasted point tbh

[mighty belfry]

I don't think so either.

[bronze glade]

city brawler is really fucking good

[mighty belfry]

Genuinely one of Hive Scum's best nodes for survivability.

[bronze glade]

i always take it

[tropic crag]

typed too slow 🙁 ... also i've been playing fs games since war of the roses, you can say i'm bad but i'm very comfy in my ablitiy to bonk heretics like a weirdo

[hasty agate]

Yeah it is

[tropic crag]

on rampage builds its just double value, because you're constantly proccing the 20% damage

and you can push to keep it

[bronze glade]

yeah i mean 20% damage, 20% DR, or something in between-- that's insane value for a single talent

[rose flax]

I mean I understand bursters due to how bugged most specials are lol, but if your getting hit by anything else your not mobile enough, that's why you take nimble, jittery, slippery customer(dodge crouching and you can just avoid many overheads until you stop moving lol, sliding is useless compared)

[bronze glade]

most talents give 10-15% damage, often conditional

[ancient basin]

audio has def been on the fritz lately too

[tropic crag]

i learned on launch slayer. trust me man, i learned on the og "don't get hit class"... you can make this a "yeah i get hit sometimes class" and still do more damage than everyone else

[broken bear]

i just skill issued a game so hard i left

my god

[tropic crag]

i was bad at vt1

[rose flax]

Slayer is not a glass cannon though?

[broken bear]

netted 5 times

bursted twice

[tropic crag]

launch slayer

[broken bear]

sniped once

[ancient basin]

you get the feel in your gut when you are heavy lifting the whole match some times

[tropic crag]

not current slayer

[broken bear]

crushered once

[mighty belfry]

the single poxburster ready to block you from behind and completely break your momentum

[rose flax]

You mean the elf careers?

[broken bear]

all before the first objective

[tropic crag]

no i mean the slayer that was there at launch. it was nothing like the current version

[rose flax]

Dude, launch slayer wasn't a glass cannon either

He was even better

[low harbor]

hive city brawler is kinda just ok

[mighty belfry]

banking literally all of your survivability on mobility in this game is a gamble

[tropic crag]

better than an always up 60% dr?

because slayer now has perma 60% dr

he did not have that before

also the weapon movesets were different

the new movesets have made him tankier

[amber sundial]

bardin slayer can get 60% dr? i thought the only talent that gave him dmg resistance was up to 30%

[rose flax]

No characters in vermintide 2 had much Dr
Iron breaker besides zealot is the only character you can really face tank with
Slayer had insane damage/dps before, now he's just a tank with weak damage, but high attack speed

[sturdy linden]

I've had that happen occasionally

when you just alt f4 in shame

[tropic crag]

lol yeah i meant 30% been a few months since i turned it on and probably 4 years since i've touched a build

[sturdy linden]

like sorry bros, the bot will do better than me today

[tropic crag]

i used to challenge people to face tank contests because of this slayer can out w press an ib any day

current scum can do the same thing as current day slayer

be tanky enough to press w into anything without really dodging if you don't want and do more damage than anyone and come out the other side full hp

just gotta hit the heads and drag your hitboxes

both classes have points where if you mess up you will fall over... but NEVER while pressing w into something

[rose flax]

I mean you can do whatever you want though, not trying to say you have to
Just personally don't understand making a glass cannon tankier when you lose out on dps/mobility
Hive scums only issue is that this game has tons of ranged enemies
If he was in vermintide series, he would be op

[sullen ridge]

please feed and suck ass

[mighty belfry]

You've actually kinda answered the question in this case.

[hasty agate]

So what talent would you drop for the cleave node?

[mighty belfry]

Tis But a Scratch is a node you're probably using because why the hell wouldn't you?

Hive City Brawler gives that node more mileage.

[tropic crag]

build theory mostly, when i'm building a class in a tide game i'm usually not looking to peak at one thing, i'm looking to smooth out the valleys while keeping the natural hills that are the strength of the classes.... and honestly with like the wind and normal dodges you can just be immune to ranged enemies

[sturdy linden]

honestly? Hyperviolence. Since you're going tox stacking you don't really need it

[manic wolf]

Ranged enemies arent even really a huge issue for Scum anyway most of the time. Near instant dodge refresh go brrr

[tropic crag]

on melee builds i mean, with like the wind

[hasty agate]

Perhaps when Nimble isn’t bugged I could drop hcb but until then it’s totally worth it.

[mighty belfry]

Believe it or not but this is a class you sometimes want to get hit by.

[tropic crag]

yeah if you take a dink from a shooter from time to time it actually makes you live even better

[mighty belfry]

Because this class turns ranged enemies into toughness regen assuming you don't allow it to zero out.

[sturdy linden]

Nimble is not bugged.

[rose flax]

? The only talents that actually helps for specifically ranged attacks is tis but a scratch and burst of energy but you don't need those in a ranged build, only melee
It's the equivalent of steady fire from ogyrn

[manic wolf]

I wonder who keeps perpetuating Nimble being bugged lol

[tropic crag]

like the wind

[forest escarp]

assault chainaxe for hyperviolence seem feasible?

[hasty agate]

Yeah, the dodge window is shorter than it should be.

[sturdy linden]

#hivescum-class message

[forest escarp]

i mostly just want an excuse to use the poor thing

[sturdy linden]

it isn't bugged.

[manic wolf]

Its not

[rose flax]

That's very very very situational

[sullen ridge]

i took just a scratch off, havoc enemies do too much for 10% regen a sec to matter

this shit hard 😵‍💫

[tropic crag]

its not, pretty sure this happened in vt2 as well but maybe i'm mistaking memories... its just how it works

[mighty belfry]

i was using it just fine in the last few havocs i was doing

[hasty agate]

Bro Mister E just did a video today about it.

[manic wolf]

Mister E is a moron

Sorry, but it is what it is

[mighty belfry]

And not every build is a ranged build.

[tropic crag]

no... because if they are lateral to you and outside of the arc then you can just dodge dance or slide at them, and that means you can just ignore everything on the side of you... it also means you can keep the 20% damage bonus primed from hive city brawler if you want

[mighty belfry]

I could see that specifically for Vulture's Dodge builds because

Well

Vulture's Dodge is just kinda broken

[manic wolf]

Kinda?

[tropic crag]

lol vultures dodge is absurd

[lilac schooner]

perfectly balanced

[mighty belfry]

Like you literally do not have to care about survivability.

[low harbor]

he is wrong, dodge curve is quite complex and the talent is working as intended

[tropic crag]

sources much more trustworthy then mister e have already answered

[hasty agate]

Sooo how do you guys know for certain it works as intended?

[winter tusk]

Extensive testing

[manic wolf]

Cole's explanation of Nimble needs to be pinned.

[low harbor]

think of it like
ur squeezing in 25% more distance into the same dodge animation

[limber cradle]

Isnt the dodge window shorter cause your dodges are faster

[low harbor]

so the speed at which u move during the dodge has to change

therefore the perceived dodge animation's duration feels shorter

[tropic crag]

relatively (i mean in a relative fashion)

[low harbor]

but the actual time is the same

[limber cradle]

Yeah

[low harbor]

and the dodge linger duration is correctly increased by 50%

hive scum has base dodge linger of 0.25s

with nimble this goes up to 0.375s

[manic wolf]

But dodge linger doesnt effect ranged, which is why people are thinking its bugged

[tropic crag]

and it shouldn't either lol

[manic wolf]

No, it shouldnt

[sturdy linden]

because multiple testers with thousands of hours in the game have tested and confirmed it, including Kuli who afaik actually looked at the code for it

[low harbor]

u can look up the code for it rn, the DT source code is public for all to see

[zealous ravine]

mister E when he meets the ancient evil mister A or something

[manic wolf]

But as mentioned earlier, vs range on Scum, just uhh, just dodge again because infinite dodges 😄

[tropic crag]

and honestly mister e has been wrong before from my memories but maybe i'm conflating him with another tide tuber... but there are also multiple that have gotten a number of things wrong

[mighty belfry]

Basically, think of it like this. Your dodge loses a small bit of ranged efficiency, for a ton of melee efficiency.

[tropic crag]

or slide.... or do both who cares man you have the stam

[hasty agate]

Well Damn, I’m definitely keeping city brawler then

[manic wolf]

Scum go whoosh

[limber cradle]

Take every dodge perk

[low harbor]

dodge linger is coded to be only vs melee atks as well

[mighty belfry]

If that's a crate build, I'd recommend it yeah.

[limber cradle]

Dodgemax

Dodge all attacks

I love my nimble, I love my stam back on dodge, I love jittery

This is a flynn's ring build

[manic wolf]

It really hurts going back onto Zealot now an though ultra-survivable, he just doesnt feel speedy any longer

[zealous ravine]

zealot fell off...

[tropic crag]

playing oggy after scum will give you whiplash

[manic wolf]

Yes ma'am, he did

[zealous ravine]

though relic blade is still awesome

[low harbor]

did u see the new skin in datamine

[zealous ravine]

oh the pyre blade

[low harbor]

ya

[manic wolf]

Its been a considerable amount of time now since I've played Ogg, too slow, too cumbersome, terrible stam

[low harbor]

it's peak

[zealous ravine]

we posted it like 20 times in #theorycrafting LOL

[ancient basin]

honestly I play ogryn and scum the same way, moving deliberately and with immense force

[zealous ravine]

its great

[ancient basin]

save rampage for when they get in personal, because trying to chase things is pointless as your team obliterates them when you manage to get close

[tropic crag]

don't need stam with that much health

[low harbor]

also here's classes' base dodge stats

[manic wolf]

Lmao, arguably not, but it just feels horrendous to play

[zealous ravine]

hecking / linger time

poor oggy

[low harbor]

I cud write 0.0s if that makes u feel cuter

[tropic crag]

lol oggy will always be my fav but yeah its alot of work to get from group to group if you're playing melee oggy. its part of why scum feels so easy to me, if i do oggy movement i'm just... safe

[zealous ravine]

/ is funnier i'd say

[spiral horizon]

common zealot W

we should nerf it

for no reason

[tropic crag]

lol oggy pushes alot of things over with the dodge, that kind of gives a better affect than linger for someone with such a big hitbox

[manic wolf]

You don't run from target to target like a crack rat who's been force fed 12lbs of meth?

[zealous ravine]

yea ogryn has crazy crowd control

[tropic crag]

i do, but with more unneeded move tech

[lunar hamlet]

Great fantastic thanks

[manic wolf]

VT2 player much 😄

[spiral horizon]

you WILL spam QQ L1 with mace and sword to steal ammo from the elf

[manic wolf]

You will kill the elf*

[ancient basin]

ogryn be like, this crowd is now dead, team is getting cornered, shoot gun in vague direction of them, they are no longer cornered

[manic wolf]

Spot the Rumbler main

[spiral horizon]

people routinely saying Ogryns are dumb but they're the only class smart enough to know how to use a belt fed machine gun, apparently

[ancient basin]

being able to obliterate a freshly spawned horde clump with a single shot is always satisfying

[amber sundial]

Nah I spam lights on the fire dagger to steal health pots to explode myself then drink

[tropic crag]

i STILL heavy attack the air to reposition mid horde fight

[manic wolf]

Its also extremely aids to be in a lobby with

[ancient basin]

hive scum with a heavy machine gun would go nuts

[hasty agate]

I just can’t get behind those mk III shivs. I gotta stick with mk I.

Is quick and deadly a decent alternative to battering strikes?

[ancient basin]

I usually go kick back

[manic wolf]

The belt has an auto-feed mechanisim, they're not that smart 😄

[ancient basin]

feels better to me

[tropic crag]

we could cosplay as some of the early enemies in chaos gate lol

[spiral horizon]

no I know I just wish we had some big capacity autoguns on the lil uns

like drum mags or something at least

[ancient basin]

different applications, with some small overlap

[bronze glade]

brautos: am i a joke to you

[spiral horizon]

Vet with an RPK would go hard

[bronze glade]

(yes, yes you are)

[broken bear]

pov good game so far and i die to random poxwalker #9394599595

[sturdy linden]

the purpose of battering strikes is to get some cleave in so you can light spam and still spread tox around. Quick and Deadly is more hit damage, in which case you may as well keep HyperV I guess, or maybe take HyperC instead

[bronze glade]

lack of actual LMGs in this game always drop me kinda nuts

[manic wolf]

Now you mention it... Where is muh space Saiga12

[bronze glade]

not talking about the braced shit

[spiral horizon]

look I love my agri brauto but it's no LMG

[bronze glade]

let me ADS with them

[spiral horizon]

good question!

[amber sundial]

Give me dual braced LMGs meant for the lil uns, but on ogryn

[manic wolf]

We do be needing a box/drum fed shotgun and an LMG

[hasty agate]

Quick and deadly would buff the tox ticks though

[spiral horizon]

this game really could have a ton more weapons lol, it wouldn't even need to be a thing of having to give them all a balance niche, just flavour options would be swell

[tropic crag]

you load into the game, your oggy gets confused trying to pull both triggers, throws one down and starts swinging the other one, a new oggy melee weapon option is born

[amber sundial]

Give me a weapon with the niche of being the coolest most fun weapon every but being the absolute most worst one

[hasty agate]

I think the regular combat shotguns should all get drum mags.

[limber cradle]

How it feels to like the .45s the most out of any scum unique

[manic wolf]

Would kinda kill the special load concept tho

[manic wolf]

Struggle to call them bad tho

They're super cool and fun, but they're not bad

[hasty agate]

Not if they abandon regular shells and just fill the drum with special ammo lol

[limber cradle]

They're defo not bad on their own

Compared to the macs and the needle pistol tho you use them cause you like them

[tropic crag]

whelp time for day two fo me trying to learn to like the chain sword, i had a moment of clarity yesterday where the sword felt good good, hope to find more of that

[manic wolf]

Ofc, but using stuff because you like it is like half the reason to pick anything

I like playing the Shock Maul on Psyker, is it meta? Fuck no, but its got some funny synergy

[low harbor]

the scab shotgunner's shotgun is literally just the combat shotgun but with drum mag

[spiral horizon]

the 6th really get all the cool shit

[manic wolf]

We do be needing the Gunner's auto-las at somepoint

Would fit the niche of a braced lasgun

[tropic crag]

probably out of necessity, probably a nightmare to reload a gun without gunking up everything when you're under papa nurgles influences

[spiral horizon]

it's not gunk, it's wepaon lubricant

(may cause jams and also the bubonic plague)

[loud herald]

ngl

I tried the chain axe

I don't know if I like it

[spiral horizon]

it's kind of an acquired taste

[tropic crag]

thats going to be my next venture after i learn to like the chainsword or grow to hate it

[loud herald]

I love chainsword

on vet anyway

[tropic crag]

finally trying to give the chain weapons a real chance

[loud herald]

idk how it is on scum

[tropic crag]

really good

scum just makes every weapon really good

[low harbor]

chain weapons still overwhelmingly mid tier even after 3 rounds of buffs

chainaxe is ok tho

[tropic crag]

i don't care about their quality in the meta tbh, just the move sets is what drove me away, but i'm growing on the chainsword on scum

[loud herald]

do I play darktide or do I grind shit on destiny 2

idk what do

[grave venture]

I've stopped since final shape released

[high gull]

Both are their own forms of torture

[loud herald]

true

[glacial gyro]

revolver isn't so bad on a rampage build

[sullen ridge]

just watched top hive scum steal my frame and banner combo after mission

😭

[near vapor]

wth is a sump

[glacial gyro]

Its a compliment

[sullen ridge]

no yea its cute

[glacial gyro]

mans liked your drip so much he copied it

[sullen ridge]

i did kinda carry the havoc : j

[glacial gyro]

the outflow of a sewer pipe

[loud herald]

: j

[near vapor]

deadass?

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[glacial gyro]

ok I looked it up, that's not exactly accurate. Its a basin for collecting groundwater. But, for a hive city, its the basin where the wastewater of the hive is collected for processing

[sullen ridge]

sumps a lot of things

generally gross water

[spiral horizon]

that really sumps it up huh

[near vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/black-dude-crying-take-it-slow-gng-oh-hn-gif-14841261025108273964

[sullen ridge]

boats n subs have sumps

theres surely sumps aplenty in atoma for me to huff

[glacial gyro]

so some water cartel perisher is out here sniffing his own supply

[mental trellis]

i too am a fan of the Chainaxe. Sword feels weak though

[near vapor]

WILDIN

[sullen ridge]

illegal poopwater trade

[glacial gyro]

Sword's initial attacks start out stronger but chainaxe ramps hard

slaughterer+headtaker and you can oneshot damn near anything

with rampage up and everything fully stacked

[near vapor]

we out here with that green and gold

The Show will go on...

[grave venture]

Rip the salt, flesh the wound

[glacial gyro]

Salt the rip, flesh the wound

[sullen ridge]

does sumphuffer or sumpsniffer sound better

scumsucker's also good but cliche

[glacial gyro]

both make me throw up in my mouth a little, so its your pick

[sullen ridge]

mmmmm

[grave venture]

sumpsniffer sounds better

[high gull]

@spiral horizon https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s5xx3QjDO7c

[wet niche]

So

Quick question about the new class

[glacial gyro]

ok

[wet niche]

How the fuck do I make them less squishy and not get knocked within 2 hits

I didn’t expect them to be so squishy

[near vapor]

theres a turkish dude character I like the design and fighting style

also that game got good OST..

[high gull]

The bald dude?

[high gull]

The point of the class is to be a glass cannon

[spiral horizon]

beloved

[wet niche]

That sucks

Going to take a lot longer to level them up

[glacial gyro]

This is very much a class where positioning, footwork and blocking need to be core components of your skillset

[high gull]

Gotta learn the game fundementals

[glacial gyro]

because your defenses are "dont get hit"

[high gull]

Be aware of your surroundings

You're gonna get real familiar with doging in this game when you play ganger

[near vapor]

his names Hasan

[high gull]

Or you're gonna spend alot of the match being called dead weight

[near vapor]

i think?

[wet niche]

My psyker is already at 24 mt zelot and my vet are at level 20 got to get arbi to 20 as well hive scum I gotta get a proper build for it and need to learn what weapons are good for them

[high gull]

Prollem with scum is

They play vastly different from them

ESPECIALLY ARBY

[near vapor]

https://youtu.be/mkzvwxugsjU

[manic wolf]

Well, first cheater ive seen in a long time

[glacial gyro]

also some seeds will make you want to slit your own throat, namely bomber seeds

thats just life

[high gull]

People cheat in this game?

[wet niche]

Arbi is ok it’s just I wished I could use big ass chainsword with them like my zelot

[glacial gyro]

zealot is the only class that gets evisc

[manic wolf]

Yeah, its very rare tho

[high gull]

Truly

[manic wolf]

Think I've seen 3 in the entire history of DT

[wet niche]

What class do you think they will add next

[manic wolf]

One aimbotter, one guy who could phase through walls and this guy, one hitting literally everything

[glacial gyro]

I'm not sure, but I do know that if it isn't admech-related the subreddit is going to be put on suicide watch

[high gull]

I feel like they were either Russian, German, French, or Chinese

[manic wolf]

Russian or Chinese are the most likely, yeah, as with every game

[wet niche]

I mean I like arbi because it has similar colors to sister of battle I wish more warhammer games implemented the nuns of battle

[glacial gyro]

R... Red and black?

[manic wolf]

That being said, DMA is a huge thing nowdays in FPS games, an a lot of that is USA

[glacial gyro]

I think everyone gets some red and black options

[high gull]

Yeah but Rooskies and Chinese players just go full balls to the wall with cheats

[glacial gyro]

Or do you mean the white helmet accents

[high gull]

They do

[wet niche]

It’s a certain helmet that is from the psyker sister of battle open mask helmet looks very similar to the psyker sister of battle

[manic wolf]

Yeah, idk why Ruskis do it so much, but in China you're considered an idiot if you don't cheat. Weird culture that one

[glacial gyro]

SoB have psykers?

[high gull]

By any means mindset

[bronze glade]

https://tenor.com/view/racist-thats-racist-dats-racist-gif-5036293

[glacial gyro]

I thought SoB just kind of killed psykers on sight

[high gull]

These aren't races, they're nationalities.

Any ethnic background can be Russian or Chinese

https://tenor.com/view/now-you-know-the-more-you-know-no-kidding-no-shit-obviously-gif-1342210079425559607

[manic wolf]

Nationalicist, then 😄

[wet niche]

I might be confused but on one of my books it shows them were similar helmets to arbitators

[bronze glade]

ngl they're the same thing to me in this context lol

[high gull]

If I find out you're American

I'm not even gonna be mad.

[glacial gyro]

No one is accusing chinese people or russians of being genetically predisposed to cheating, its more that its a lot easier for them to do with impunity due to their country's laws and online cultre

[manic wolf]

I guess you could look at it like that, but experience in online games tells most of us that those are the usual culprits lol

[bronze glade]

if i'm chatting at htis hour it's a pretty safe bet

[high gull]

My soul hurts.

My ancestors didn't die for this.

[bronze glade]

the gif is ironic, in case you didn't notice

[high gull]

[bronze glade]

tell me more

your ancestors died over the difference between ethnicity and race? 🤔

[high gull]

That's confidential.

[glacial gyro]

Sure, but that could be a specific order or a special unit. SoB do not have dedicated 'psykers' (Though they are all psykers, of course, as their miracles are actually just psychic manifestations)

[high gull]

I mean technically.

But more so

They kinda saw some dudes on a boat

And now we hold a holliday over that.

Wild shit history is.

[glacial gyro]

ok this conversation is over before a yellow comes in here and bans everyone present just to be sure

[wet niche]

I mean they could add more armors than the ones they have in the shop I mean I want better looking armors for the classes

[manic wolf]

If you go far back enough a number of our ancestors died over a shiny rock or a particularly pointy stick

[bronze glade]

i don't think we're allowed to call them that anymore

[high gull]

The real question being.

[glacial gyro]

Oh don't worry, arbitrator being in a cosmetic dead zone is certainly a thing that has been discussed at length

[high gull]

This

[glacial gyro]

oh fuUUUUUU

[wet niche]

Psyker needs more so do the other classes

[high gull]

It's literally GW being assholes.

[manic wolf]

Psyker has a literal pegleg, they already peaked

[high gull]

The arby uniforms we have now are from new editions, and they apprently won't allow older editions of arby outfits.

So fatshark are essentially being held by the balls for what they can and can't add to the game

Without GW approving it first.

[glacial gyro]

Everyone actually has quite a bit (except arby and scum), the shop is on a 2 week rotation

[light phoenix]

Psyker just need more Stave variety

[wet niche]

I’m wanting something hellish looking for the class

[bold pumice]

Ahhh GW the old tradition of pissing off your fan base for the love of profit

[glacial gyro]

Can you give an example

[light phoenix]

inquisitorial trigger finger twitching

[glacial gyro]

Because like, yeah what jojo said

[manic wolf]

As if it doesnt any time you get in a lobby with a Psyker regardless of what drip they possess

[high gull]

I do hope hive scum gets a bit more liberty with the cosmetics seeing how

I mean hive scum can be fucking ANYONE

[bronze glade]

let's give psykers a new staff. in return, they should be nerfed to shit.

fair trade

[glacial gyro]

the fact that loner walks out of a mission alive is nothing short of a miracle

[charred bronze]

I'd like to see various necromunda gangs represented.

[manic wolf]

For sure, if this was a lore accurate game he's be shot by the Zealot before they even got off the dropship

[glacial gyro]

Hive scum can be THIS GUY

[light phoenix]

If anything, Necromunda has gotten plenty of models recent years ...compared to Arbites

[high gull]

There's some concept art for HS I hope gets added

[stark stone]

I wish we had a few like this as cosmetic options

[near vapor]

do keep in mind we're inq assets

[high gull]

Atleast the camo pants

[glacial gyro]

Hive scum can be THIS LADY

[charred bronze]

I'd love a beefy dude character model, but we're never gonna get that

[near vapor]

like if a zealot fragged a fellow inquisition asset

[stark stone]

The fact we don't have any outfits that match the dead water cartel guys is saddening

[near vapor]

the higher ups would just execute the perpetrator 💀

[light phoenix]

I am scaroused

[near vapor]

this is the exact reason why Arbys can only threatens the Scums

[wet niche]

Chains all black more ribbons on the armor and a decent mask that don’t look gaudy

[manic wolf]

Good point, Rannick would have killed the loner upon the poor bastard setting foot on the ship

[near vapor]

but not follow through on their threats

[light phoenix]

New weapon when? This and Hellgun

[glacial gyro]

so just edgier

[wet niche]

Yes to match the goth style I put on them

[near vapor]

but for what reason

[manic wolf]

"My beloved says.."

[charred bronze]

We already got a surprising number of looks from the concept art

[glacial gyro]

h e r e s y

[near vapor]

loner is as useful as the crazy religious extremist who has dreams of khorne

[manic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-gif-22839895

[high gull]

These are all hive scum concept arts

[near vapor]

heresy is entirely subjective in the Imperium

[light phoenix]

For selling cosmetics that are just recolours

[glacial gyro]

No no, those skulls are for the golden throne

[wet niche]

Bolt gun needs faster reload speed

[near vapor]

anything can be considered that but even then, theyre not enforced properly all the time too..

[low harbor]

I will crash out if they get a halberd before the other classes

[wet niche]

I about got dropped

[limber cradle]

Give it to me

[stark stone]

I kinda wish we got more stuff like this tbh.

[light phoenix]

Lol Magik profile pic

[wet niche]

Yes my favorite marvel character

[manic wolf]

Dude looks like he'd be on Nurgle's team

[austere coyote]

we have custodes at home looking ass

[glacial gyro]

if scum gets a polearm we will need to make sure zealot players cannot access anything sharp, and confiscate shoelaces and extension cords to be sure

[high gull]

We need ponchos man

[light phoenix]

House Cawdor lesgo

[limber cradle]

He's very, deeply religious.

[stark stone]

Don't get me wrong, I like the Hive Scum outfits we got, but I want more variety.

[limber cradle]

That's exactly why they make them like that, their vermin supreme dude is iirc wearing a custodes boot on his head

[light phoenix]

Where'd you find these?

[manic wolf]

So are the heretics 😄

[stark stone]

No Comissary skin variants either for Hive Scum or Arbites exclusives sucks too

[high gull]

Just google

[stark stone]

We need Commisary skins for the Hive Scum and Arbites for clothing

[high gull]

Hive scum concept art

[low harbor]

vet shud get 2h power axe and zealot shud get 2h chainaxe

[glacial gyro]

My deepest fear is that we will never get anything colorful. Necromunda is proof you can have a splash of color without it looking like fortnite

[near vapor]

if thats the case then Loose Cannon wouldve also been shot long ago because they constantly talk about committing heresy (desertion)

[stark stone]

mhm

[manic wolf]

Also yes

[low harbor]

wait isn't this literally a penance cosmetic set

[high gull]

The entire outfit bar the mask is penance gear

The mask is a cash shop item

[glacial gyro]

Lets be real, the penance skins for arbitrator are essentially commissary skins, considering they are just the same pieces, but dark red

[near vapor]

also theres still an active warzone going on in Tertium

it would be really wasteful of Rannick to purge heresy when theres actual threats still present in the planet below

[limber cradle]

Yes but they like big e

[tropic crag]

when you're owned by an inquisitor who's currently maybe committing a bit of heresy himself we're allow our fair share

[charred bronze]

Every game has a design guide for visual cohesion. Even if stuff has color on it, it's probably going to remain consistent with the palette and tones that they've already established. I doubt we'll get neon hive scum stuff

[near vapor]

@limber cradle WHEN ARE YOU GONNA SLEEP

[limber cradle]

Idk i got sucked into dispatch again

[manic wolf]

No they dont, thats why they're heretics 😏

[austere coyote]

when you're effective you're permitted idiosyncrasies

[charred bronze]

Dispatch is so good!

[glacial gyro]

because if the imperium is anything, it is pragmatic and sensible, and definitely not wasteful

[high gull]

Bro's eyes must be bloodshot

[near vapor]

Grendyl and Rannick are quite radical yep

[limber cradle]

I agree

[near vapor]

understandable lmaoo

[limber cradle]

I kinda sleep 4 hours a day regularly lately, it's whatever.

[tropic crag]

what about a tasteful glowstick strapped to the head?

[high gull]

I still think Grendy tendies is a fucking brain in a jar somewhere on the ship

[near vapor]

to downright horrific degree

[glacial gyro]

it is endlessly entertaining to me that "radical" means "has common sense" in Imperial terms

[charred bronze]

That's a solid maybe imo honestly. They've been a bit more free with giving us stuff with glowy bits, like the new backpack with the red targeter on it

[limber cradle]

Tbf radicals normally use chaos to fight chaos until they eventually fall also, so, idk about common sense

[glacial gyro]

Or that fucking arbitrator helmet with the three eyes, that causes me to lose between one and twenty rounds of ammunition each time it comes around the corner at me

[tropic crag]

i'd say grendyl alot more than rannick, rannick is pretty cool for a guy in his position, grendyl is like... going off the deep end maybe

[charred bronze]

I think glowy tox/chem vials might be on the menu. Scotch taped to scum head? They gave saltzpyre a dead rat, so I'd say it's possible.

[austere coyote]

have you ever played the Rogue Trader CRPG, so many times you'll just go "what if we gave the poor more food" and people look at you like your head's on backwards

[glacial gyro]

because something primal ingrained in my DNA activates that demands I kill the trapper

[tropic crag]

i think the big reason we might never is because alot of the enemies have glowy bits for identifying them so they'd probably only do it if they could avoid too much confusion

[near vapor]

I think Rannick mirrors some of Grendyl's own traits as an Inquisitor. He wouldnt have been chosen as Interrogator otherwise

[pallid quail]

lol who cares theres no friendly fire

[glacial gyro]

"what if we negotiate with the workers that keep our ship running and stop harassing them randomly"
Abelard:

https://tenor.com/view/old-guy-falling-down-stairs-gif-18773758

[near vapor]

like he allows some bit of backtalk if it means morale improves among the rejects

[charred bronze]

I already swing at scum friendlies more often than I should admit. And like Cannabelle pointed out, theres the arbites 3 eye mask that looks like a trapper

[sullen ridge]

i be killing the fuck out of cyber mastiffs

[tropic crag]

yeah i'd agree, currently it is kind of like rannick could easily become grendyl like if he kept at it for as many years

[high gull]

@low harbor This is essentially the outfit minus the cash shop mask

Also you cannot obtain these pants

[sullen ridge]

wheres the hive scum

[high gull]

In therapy

[near vapor]

the raggedy ahh shirt and tubes on hand ruins it for me

but the plated left arm is cool

[tropic crag]

i also swing at friendly dogs and oggy's lol... better to smack the butt of a friendly oggy on accident then not smack a bad oggy

[sullen ridge]

yknow bladesman's garb is so zealot coded it even has a prisoner's collar on it

its so out of place on hive scum

[tropic crag]

i see an arm the size of my torso in my screen i will attack every time just in case

[limber cradle]

Its a gorget

[sullen ridge]

yes but stylized like every other zealot piece

[limber cradle]

As long as yk

[sullen ridge]

prisoner's gorget.....................

thatll do

[tropic crag]

sounds like a darksouls item tbh