hivescum-class

[manic wolf]

DoT is effected by perks of whatever weapon you're holding

[jolly elbow]

Clinical assasin

[obsidian crown]

My conclusion for me was flak maniac

[manic wolf]

But its a minor change, at best

[jolly elbow]

whats that

[keen timber]

so if I had + cara on my shivs, had my guns out, threw a nade at a crusher then swapped to shivs, the tox on the crusher would inherit +cara?

[rare stirrup]

Carapace is like the only thing that stands out with crowbar 💀

[limber cradle]

Thats weakspots, not crits, just aim for heads. If you want an easier time set your height slider to just under max and most enemies heads will sit in your neutral aim height

[cedar cairn]

"Gamers are fucking idiots with no idea what they're talking about" more news at 11

[vast yoke]

what blessings should i run on the agripinaa revolver (running a rampage build with pickpocket, its working rlly well rn)
atm im enjoying run and gun but my 2nd blessing is up in the air, and idk abt the perks besides maniac%

[tropic crag]

wait does tox damage apply differently to different armors?

[bronze glade]

chatgppt aaaaah post

[tropic crag]

i thought it was just a "true" damage but i've never checked

[jolly elbow]

aight ty

[obsidian crown]

Anyways try both and see what you prefer. Test it in the event auric where you’ll get same amount of havoc bosses and see what works best for you

[keen timber]

this is about perks

[obsidian crown]

Less HP but still a good indicator

[limber cradle]

Np, also to clarify it's while you're stimmed

[vast yoke]

atm im choosing between gloryhunter, trickshooter, and point blank, idgaf about hand cannon for this

[keen timber]

are captain bosses also unyielding?

[obsidian crown]

No

[keen timber]

flak?

[neon fern]

cara

[bronze glade]

flak

[jolly elbow]

ya, im about a quarter way through it

[tropic crag]

yeah, i just didn't think +damage actually increased tox damage

[obsidian crown]

Flak

[limber cradle]

Nah theyre cara/flak iirc

[obsidian crown]

Depends where you shoot

[limber cradle]

Depends on where you hit

[obsidian crown]

Or hit

But yeah

[limber cradle]

Same brain

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-hunnam-foksrun-gif-18814735

[obsidian crown]

Good movie

[limber cradle]

Great movie, I should grab a 6 pack and rewatch that soon

[keen timber]

pacific rim 1 bangs

[limber cradle]

Why'd you specify 1? They never made a sequel.

[tropic crag]

i never liked it as much as all my friends but its a fun movie

[keen timber]

i

i swear they did?

[obsidian crown]

I was thinking about the pacific rim Netflix show then it reminded me records of ragnarok new season is out today

[keen timber]

wait

no shit

u rite bro

[limber cradle]

Nope, never made one. It's a shame really.

[obsidian crown]

There’s a sequel

[keen timber]

yeah true

[tropic crag]

the show i like alot more than the movie, but i never finished it

[keen timber]

No. There. Isn't.

[obsidian crown]

Pacific rim

[limber cradle]

I know, running joke.

[obsidian crown]

I don’t get the joke

Guess I’m old

[keen timber]

it's a bit like how the book eragon never got a movie adaptation

[neon fern]

sequel sucks ass

[obsidian crown]

Eragon is getting a show

[neon fern]

das the joke

[obsidian crown]

I’m not sure how I feel about it

[keen timber]

say sike RIGHT NOW

[obsidian crown]

Don’t fuck it up like the movie

[obsidian crown]

No it is

[keen timber]

what movie

it never got a movie

[limber cradle]

I loved those books as a kid

I even owned the game

[tropic crag]

my little brother loved the eragon series

[cedar cairn]

It sucks so bad that everyone pretends like it never existed

[obsidian crown]

Disney plus is making the show so that’s why I’m kinda ehhh

[keen timber]

The author has actually disowned the movie

[obsidian crown]

But the author is personally working on the show so

[keen timber]

Inheritance cycle books were so good

[keen timber]

oh thank god

[tropic crag]

they did great by percy jackson, that show is actually good if you liked the books

[obsidian crown]

Coin toss with Disney is my thing but yeah

[cedar cairn]

I don't even like eragon's author and I agree with him

[tropic crag]

i get you

[obsidian crown]

Yeah I actually just re read them all recently

[keen timber]

why do you dislike paolini?

[neon fern]

everyone diswoned that fucking movie

[obsidian crown]

I also read the new book too

[neon fern]

even if u know nothing about the source it's awful

[obsidian crown]

Did you read new one

[keen timber]

the witch something?

[obsidian crown]

No

[keen timber]

I havent had a chance no

[obsidian crown]

Murtaugh is the name of the book

[tropic crag]

like the dragon ball movie that came out like.. 20 years ago or whatever

[obsidian crown]

Came out like 1-2 years ago

It takes place right after last book

But from Murtaugh’s POV

[keen timber]

oh he actually continued some of it?

[neon fern]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-angry-gon-bait-gif-5270896389597269350

[obsidian crown]

Yes

[keen timber]

ill have to check it out

[obsidian crown]

Very good

[keen timber]

lets hope the tv series doesnt go the same way as shadow and bone's did

randomly cancelled after 2 seasons

that made me sad

it wasn't a great adaptation, but I enjoyed seeing the crows in a show

[tropic crag]

i have good memories of that dragon ball movie because my first view of it was a bootleg when it was still in theaters stream on an early streaming site and there was like 100 people in there just roasting the movie the whole time and it was fun lol

[keen timber]

i have the old covers

or some of them

[obsidian crown]

I do as well

But they’re somewhere in storage

[versed spruce]

Unrelated but dayum your place looks nice

[obsidian crown]

Oh thanks. Sec, I show some pics of living room and office

[keen timber]

that's a nice place

awesome living room

[obsidian crown]

It’s cozy

I’m waiting for my gf to finish med school to be a doctor then we can buy a house. I have some stuff I wanna do to renovate the house when we get one

This is what I want ultimately

[keen timber]

that first image looks awesome tbh

[obsidian crown]

Yeah custom

Not worth buying a house atm since we don’t know where she’ll be after residency

[dusk talon]

What's with the Jason vorhees breathing in the video

[obsidian crown]

Deviated septum

[dusk talon]

Oh sorry

[obsidian crown]

All good

Gonna get surgery for it at some point but not a major issue

[dusk talon]

Cool house

[keen timber]

well anywya

[obsidian crown]

Thx

[keen timber]

it's 2am and ive got a work do tomorrow

[obsidian crown]

But yes

Eragon show

[keen timber]

so im gonna try and sleep

[obsidian crown]

Coming next year I think?

[keen timber]

yeah that sounds prett neat

[high gull]

It's ai generated

[keen timber]

yeah i know

still a cool concept

[flat mist]

Love that styling

[versed spruce]

Be honest with me, have either of you ever licked one of the salt lamps

[flat mist]

Kitchen is goals

[obsidian crown]

No 💀 but my dog did

[versed spruce]

I have

[obsidian crown]

[versed spruce]

They're good

[rare stirrup]

Ofc

Some of you have no spark of inquisitiveness in you

[dusk talon]

They're saving them for the nurgle incursion

[obsidian crown]

Yeah. It is. I have an interior designer friend at my job. So I asked if this is realistically possible and she said yeah

[dusk talon]

To throw on friendly Beasts

[high gull]

Probably be paying out the ass for something like that.

But I mean if you've got the chops

Spend it while you're livin

[tulip magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-friday-gif-12932795

[obsidian crown]

Yeah. Unfortunately my mom passed away last year but she left me a large sum, I could technically retire now but not going to

[obsidian crown]

GF is also gonna be a doctor so she’ll make a good amount as well

[unreal osprey]

whats the difference between needle pistol mks

[manic wolf]

Not bad for first time back on melee Vet. Only the Desp' Scum beat it out

[broken bear]

desperado my beloved

[novel oracle]

mk6 applies +2 toxin on crit and headshot, and the special is a primer toxin that makes enemies do a tiny stagger aoe on death
mk2 applies +1 toxin on crit and headshot, and the special is a primer toxin that makes enemies spread 1 stack of non primer toxin in a small aoe on death

[manic wolf]

Desp Scum is very cool, but he is not a classy gentleman

[limber cradle]

He is a cyber gladiator tho

Which is much cooler

[manic wolf]

No cool hats tho

An cool hats are like 90% of fashion in DT

[broken bear]

shes got a cool mask though

[manic wolf]

Its a bit too edgelordy for me that one i wont lie 😄

[broken bear]

our hats are shinier.

[manic wolf]

But they dont have feathers in them 😄

[broken bear]

ate the feathers.

[manic wolf]

Don't do that, it'll give you indigestion

[ripe seal]

IAGs on desperado is fun but I think I end up missing the built in sprint and shooting of the akimbo SMG to run that over it

[obsidian crown]

Think we’ll ever get havoc armor for scum or arbites?

[ripe seal]

even if stacking double big close range damage buffs is nice

[manic wolf]

James Workshop seems pretty set on Arb looking like Arb and no other drip than that, maybe for Scum tho

Scum is sort of inherently open to having more drip options

[ripe seal]

even if they go for the same aestheic I feel there's more variety in potential scum outfits compared to arbite

[manic wolf]

For sure, yeah

They could do some really cool shit for Scum too

[obsidian crown]

Wonder if it’ll unlock automatically if you meet the requirements already

[ripe seal]

i'm down for more different looking arbite outfits but scum is very open ended with hte aesthetic

[obsidian crown]

Or you gotta refarm again

[manic wolf]

Kinda expect it to just unlock tbh

[obsidian crown]

You would think

Fatshark though

[manic wolf]

Unless its clear X Havoc level specifically with the class, thats the only way I see it being locked

[carmine solar]

hive scum supremacy

[vast yoke]

Holy fucking shit the fanning revolver with every spread reduction + Pickpocket is so fun

closest you can get to boltgun magdump on scum

[novel oracle]

now i kinda wanna try it with clip size and speedload

and run n gun

[vast yoke]

I did this (rampage build)

[novel oracle]

no on a ranged build

[vast yoke]

run n gun and sustained fire for me

[tender marten]

run n gun kinda blows on the fan revolver

[vast yoke]

yeah might drop it tbf

perfect accuracy is neat tho

[tender marten]

if you could somehow brace it and also sprint then maybe

[novel oracle]

more for the sprint function

[vast yoke]

you can crossmap snipers no problem

[ripe seal]

i never considered hte revolver with the extra clip size, I also figured you wouldn't be able to do the fan fire with run and gun, figured you could only hip fire and not brace

[tender marten]

but its sort of counterintuitive

[vast yoke]

it's worth it

[novel oracle]

oh wait thats right im stupid as fuck

you cant fan and sprint

[tender marten]

yea

like its useable but

awkward

[vast yoke]

I'm running hyperviolence crowbar rampage build with fanning revy and adrenaline, melee cdr stim. shit is crack

[ripe seal]

i feel like the fan fire revolver with the base amount of s hots is fine enough, I generally don't feel drawn to extra clip size in general

[vast yoke]

1 extra bullet feels great and I don't need hypercritical or whatever it's called

that's the main reason

[ripe seal]

too many other things competing with it, other stuff I can take in its place to reach those bottom nodes

[vast yoke]

not rlly

[tender marten]

i dont even find pickpocket necessary 90% of the time unless you're in havoc or you are genuinely shooting 24/7 just to do it

[vast yoke]

you always take melee attack speed and if you're going Pickpocket you gotta choose between 2x crit damage sometimes or mag size

[small grail]

All these hours in and my least favorite enemy is STILL bulwarks

[vast yoke]

very necessary on fanning revolver I'm afraid haha

also VERY fun

[ripe seal]

i'm already taking the other nodes in that row, though I would like to go straight into pick pocket and ignore hyper critical

[vast yoke]

you just mag dump every markable enemy, it dies

never ending supply

agripinaa revolvers biggest weakness is ammo eco

[tender marten]

throwing shiv makes up so much of my ammo econ

[vast yoke]

which ceases to exist on scum with 1 talent point

anyway was just saying it's very fun I recommend trying it if you gotta like 1300 dia laying around

even if it's not h40 meta although genuinely? might work very well

been just trying out every weapon on scum lately, cknife is very good too, crumps ragers slightly faster than shivs

and everyone already knows infauto is peak

[tender marten]

braced graia has been my fave tbh

but thats nothing new lol

i just like the dakka

[vast yoke]

haven't done brauto yet, I'll tap in tmmrw

[tender marten]

im still utterly mystified that they gave this class something like -90% weapon swap speed when literally NONE OF OUR WEAPONS ARE SLOW TO SWAP

[vast yoke]

base brauto equip time is slow in my book

[tender marten]

what im saying is, gib bolter

[mighty belfry]

Pickpocket is massive on some weapons tbch

[vast yoke]

lowk agrip revolver is just boltgun on this class

same usecase of magdumping elite packs

[frigid thorn]

On a pure melee build with the Shivs/Tactical axe, is it better to run Hyperviolence or Hypercritical? I know they kind of overlap with one another during the Hypercritical insta kill.

[mighty belfry]

Stimm supply double barrel scum be goin bonkers

[tender marten]

tacaxe with bromentum = hyperv
anything else = hypercrit

[vast yoke]

rlly, i heard the opposite

[supple torrent]

the only thing I'm sad about is chem dep giving ability CDR instead of stimm CDR. It feels like a missed opportunity.

[vast yoke]

rather I've seen ppl actively tell others to avoid hypercrit even on some crit builds

[vast yoke]

I think it's completely understandable that shit would be busted

if CDR affected stims then the CDR branch would be fucked

[supple torrent]

Naah just the chem dep bonus affecting stimms.

[vast yoke]

unless only dependency then still 40% stimm cdr is a bit fucked, maybe tweaked idk

imma be fr dependency doesn't need alladat it's already the best keystone on most builds

give adrenaline better subnodes

[lime bronze]

what is the best melee to use with rampage?

[trim wind]

i think dependency is the weakest

[tepid cosmos]

Only some I’m sure I’m not all that well versed in tyranids

[frigid thorn]

Oh yeah, is it becuase with Bromentum the hypercrit is basically going to cancel out Bromentum since it won't count as a kill for Bromentum purposes

[vast yoke]

personal preference but rule of thumb you want something that can shit out attacks at high speed to maintain it. I've found a ton of success with box cutter riposte+bloodletter and crowbar supremacy+canop but many other setups work too. I'd probably avoid bonesaw tho it might be too slow to sustain and caxes work with it but underwhelmingly imo

[modest patio]

you dont need a lot of attacks

crowbar cleaves through a horde and just stacks time

[lime bronze]

i think im misunderstaning when you say box cutter, is that prison shanks or the combat knife?

[vast yoke]

box cutter is a shiv mk that's a pair of box cutters

but the corkscrews will probably serve you better

box cutter DOT build is for certified crackheads

[lime bronze]

i am a legitamite space crack head

i think that works for me lol

[vast yoke]

I literally recommend crowbar

[vast yoke]

just get an autoclicker or an autoswing mod

[lime bronze]

my game crashes in like 30 sec of me playing a match with mods on :/

[vast yoke]

also plug a +3 stam curio and +2 stam on the shivs for max attack speed

[lime bronze]

makes me so sad

[vast yoke]

check darktide modding discord they have a list of broken mods

[tulip magnet]

It's finally over

[north slate]

If you have sb check it's website. There is a fix in the comments

[lime bronze]

can you dm the discord to me?

[lime bronze]

w asf

[north slate]

I mean on nexus

[broken bear]

this totally isnt busted 😭

i dont even ever get to pick pocket levels of low ammo

[vast yoke]

they meant to ping me

[supple torrent]

Also didn't realise chem dep gave cooldown regen rate instead of cooldown reduction

[lime bronze]

yea i do that from time to time

[modest patio]

this with desperado+?

[broken bear]

ya

hyper crit desperado

dual autos

[sturdy linden]

we are 100% gonna get nerfed

there is no shot this stays as is

[vast yoke]

does hypercrit work with ranged because didn't they say it shouldn't

[sturdy linden]

doesn't

[bronze glade]

its melee onlt

[vast yoke]

yeah they gotta update the talent to say that. afaik they said its specifically melee only on the forums cus ppl keep reporting that it doesn't work on ranged lmao

[broken bear]

its basically ranged builds melee node

[vast yoke]

not rlly it's piss easy to access for everyone since the stamina attack speed node is almost mandatory

20% attack speed is too good to pass up

[tulip magnet]

critical "strikes" SHOULD always refer to melee. But as always there's inconsistency

[broken bear]

which one is that

[manic wolf]

I wouldnt take it on a ranged build tbh, because you very rarely need to melee

Its a nice QoL thing for melee builds tho

[broken bear]

i do cuz shiv horde clear sucks dookie balls

[vast yoke]

look above and to the right of hypercrit

[broken bear]

o

yea idc for attack speed

shivs r fast already

[drifting heron]

You shall be rendered into a fine powder

[manic wolf]

It does? Coulda fooled me, I been running them with HV an it works super well

[broken bear]

i also dont run stamina curios

[vast yoke]

shiv horde clear sucks dookie balls
I don't care for attack speed
imma stop listening

[drifting heron]

A fibrous dust

[short vine]

But they can be faster

[broken bear]

point in case -> hyper violence

[modest patio]

I need to make a build for it, havent played desparado yet

[frigid thorn]

is it worth it still to combine hyperviolence and hypercritical at all if you can?

[manic wolf]

Right but like.. HV is kinda just value town all the time

[broken bear]

Cole has a good one

[broken bear]

i have like... 60-70% crit rate

[manic wolf]

So you'd be getting bigger procs of HV

[modest patio]

Are Cole's updated? last I checked they didn't include the new skill moves

[broken bear]

insta killing anything human sized is also just satisfying

[bronze glade]

crazy take

[broken bear]

ya

[manic wolf]

I really dont see the reason to run HC at all over HV, sure you might get some funny one shots on Maulers an that, but like, for general use HV is just vastly superior

[patent bone]

Alright I'm in the mood for shankin, any volunteers?

[sturdy linden]

mfw I lie:

[broken bear]

im also an old head who doesnt get the whole stamina curio thing

[manic wolf]

Stamina is very much an old head thing Lex 😄

[drifting heron]

6% attack speed per curio

Get silly

[frigid thorn]

so if you can, just take HV over HC and save teh skill point

[bronze glade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1444017590748975125/1447448646168739880/31F6591.MP4?ex=693af4d9&is=6939a359&hm=d339a7d2f5afc00bdace9ca7bfd0e177240d37138b394fe4f8a06f9a63e689ed&

look at me

i'm the rager now

[mighty belfry]

It usually isn't ideal to do all stamina curios but for this class particularly, it makes a huge difference

[manic wolf]

I think so, but ymmv

[broken bear]

save the skill point when u still use it

[broken bear]

ive yelled at so many people to use toughness curios its engrained in me

[mighty belfry]

Attack speed and also gives Hive City Brawler a lot more consistency

[frigid thorn]

what build did you do and what blessings/perks did you put on the box cutters lmao

[sturdy linden]

I don't use 3x stam because I don't trust myself without at least 2x toughness curios

[mighty belfry]

Which is Hive Scum's only actual damage reduction

[manic wolf]

X2 TGH, X1 Stam on melee build, same for Hybrid, x3 TGH on ranged

[broken bear]

id use 1 stamina curio max

[mighty belfry]

I'd give it a try. It is not as bad as it seems with this class

[short vine]

What's the max stam roll on a curio? 3 or 2?

[tulip magnet]

3

[broken bear]

but also desperado 24/7 and vultures dodge = 0 damage lol

[mighty belfry]

Because this classes TDR generally isn't great anyway.

[bronze glade]

gimme a sec, don't have the build on GL yet

[manic wolf]

Not great, but not shidd either due to HCB and Voice of Tertium, which is effectively just EHP for ranged stuff and sort of works as TDR in practice

[broken bear]

is the combat regen on curios additive or

[frigid thorn]

I really want to try the boxcutters because they look hilarious lmao

[mighty belfry]

Hell I'm even gonna try all stamina in havoc when I can

[mighty belfry]

Yes.

[modest patio]

dump stat on auto pistols is mobility?

[broken bear]

yes

peak

also peak

[frigid thorn]

crack hobo attack speed

[mighty belfry]

Yeah but what I'm getting at is that the percentage increase to toughness on a class that doesn't have too much, along with a lower than average TDR, makes toughness curios not have as much value as they do on other classes.

[tulip magnet]

Since needler damage doesn't matter, what're good perks? Reload speed and stam?

[lapis raft]

needler damage does matter as long as you have it equipped

[broken bear]

oh my lord melk gimme a stam curio

[short vine]

Kinda does cause iirc it affects toxin damage

[sturdy linden]

Stripped Down + RnG is what I use

[sturdy linden]

doesn't

[broken garnet]

eatin good after hotfix?

[lapis raft]

by damage i mean perks e.g the question that was asked

[mighty belfry]

Yeah this class is fun.

[broken bear]

also @manic wolf hyper crit is how i get to vultures

[sturdy linden]

oh perks sorry, yeah the carapace/unyielding perks will matter

[broken bear]

talent tree movement </3

[sturdy linden]

Ogryn moment

[lapis raft]

lol

[sturdy linden]

bone'ead overheat

[haughty slate]

Guys, I have found it. I have found the funny invincible autopistol build.

[mighty belfry]

I do think pickpocket does need something to put it in check a lil tho

[lapis raft]

also yea for blessing i use stripped down and run and gun too

and run and gun also gives toxin damage

[haughty slate]

Autopistol is so back baby

[lapis raft]

if you keep sprinting :d

[sturdy linden]

internal CD

[short vine]

I love my infinite ammo what

[sturdy linden]

maybe a nerf to the threshold too idk

[mighty belfry]

I love it too but I can also acknowledge, it's probably a tad busted with some weapons lol

[sturdy linden]

20% is ridiculously generous

[mighty belfry]

Then again.

Psyker.

So idk

[sturdy linden]

troo

[short vine]

Psyker has infinite ammo true

Truth nuke right there

Also apparently now stim supply provides the buff of the custom even if it's on cool down?

[mighty belfry]

But triple barrel shotgun with manstopper, scattershot, and being able to use that with complete impunity is absolutely nuts

[lapis raft]

it doesnt

some ppl just say that for whatever reason but its very easy to test yourself

[haughty slate]

nah... saw people saying that earlier but I think they were just confused about the keystone interaction fix

it just does the corruption healing without the stim

[lapis raft]

yea

[bronze glade]

@frigid thorn https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a090743a-94b8-4885-a17a-15e9637e554d/dreg-rager

[short vine]

No no I saw on someone's stream first stab themselves with the stim, they got an attack speed boost, and then they dropped a crate and it went even higher

[frigid thorn]

thank you sir

[lapis raft]

spent a lot of time today reworking my previous interface to this but it was worth it :d

[frigid thorn]

now i am the rager

[short vine]

Probably a bug then

[frigid thorn]

not the triple stamina LOL

[lapis raft]

get the mod that shows crit chance, get crit stimm

tested in 5 minutes

[bronze glade]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-dewit-gif-11426456

[lapis raft]

it does not give the bonus 100%

[bronze glade]

need to try this out

thanks

[broken bear]

which mod is this

[short vine]

Will test it myself when I wake up just to be sure but I swear that shit looked weird

[lapis raft]

one i was working on past few days https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/661

[dim moth]

I think this is a visual bug with show crit chance not actually reflected in game

The mod just shows what your crit chance should be from all effects on the player not considering whether they stack or not

[lapis raft]

it does work normally just fine

[hardy spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1448504299914006538/McjHAcX.mp4?ex=693b8041&is=693a2ec1&hm=8e1ec30deea295348a7c0db997f6ff04a909599181305b2eb0f0de1e282ca000&

is this the glass cannon class the steam reviews keep talking about

[lapis raft]

from the stimm bonus

and from crate

so it isnt i dont think

like it shows just fine

[mighty belfry]

Yes. As you can tell, you went down. You didn't see it though but it happened.

[short vine]

Well get hit again within 7 seconds after that timer runs out

[mighty belfry]

#glasscannon

[lapis raft]

ngl i feel a lot more survivable on scum than on combat knife veteran mostly because there is at least some in combat toughness recovery :d

knife vet has like 0 other than shouty

[mighty belfry]

It also doesn't do damage. Terrible against carapace. All glass, no cannon.

[lapis raft]

(as long as i dont get randomly one tapped ofc)

[mighty belfry]

Fatshark's washed guys. Bad class.

[broken bear]

well lets see if losing gunner dmg res fucks with me

[spiral horizon]

+xp, +curio chance, +dockets

[broken bear]

die painful you balding bitch

[short vine]

I'm surprised at the negative reviews for the class

[spiral horizon]

I got more hair than you smh

[mighty belfry]

The real meta

[short vine]

It's fun and difficult class to play

[bronze glade]

one of these is not like the others 😉

[short vine]

To an extent

[broken bear]

no u dont

i grew mine jore

more*

[lapis raft]

before the changes to tree i think its perfectly understandable

[sturdy linden]

why are you surprised that the average Darktide player is terrible at piloting a high skill class and has too low an attention span to learn

[lapis raft]

the leveling was pain in the ass

[broken bear]

wait incan wanna see my new hair

[short vine]

I can agree to a degree

[sturdy linden]

it was not. Levelling was awful yes but nowhere near as nasty as the reviews make it out to be

[spiral horizon]

sure why not, it's probably like half the length of mine

[lapis raft]

well yea did not read the reviews but it def deserved at least some negative reviews for that one

[manic wolf]

Thats fair. Its in a bit of an annoying place, same with the extra dodge talent

[lapis raft]

when its paid class

[mighty belfry]

Eh honestly this is kind of a perspective thing imho

[manic wolf]

Releasing a class that inst another unkillable god was a good thing, its not Fatshark's fault people got used to Og and Arb

[lapis raft]

like you release paid product that is broken in various ways (and by broken i mean bugged) and the progression experience on it is unpleasant at best

[sturdy linden]

you get to lv 18+ and the class became more normalized. After 25 it was fine

[mighty belfry]

To a more casual player, the class being difficult to level can result in some understandable grievances.

And it was also bugged at first.

[unreal osprey]

https://x.com/danghentschel/status/1998927702041178503?s=20

Daniel Hentschel (@danghentschel)

The Pink burglar

X · Dec 11, 2025, 1:27 AM

water cartel cosmetics

[mighty belfry]

There was genuine reason for negative reviews.

[hardy spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1448504760306237480/9lUrtvV.mp4?ex=693b80ae&is=693a2f2e&hm=20f6765e7c713ad013818ba5d276483ca443f8b300de1c55879d390a03e6b670&

well you can also not run it ig

[mighty belfry]

That being said, people spouting about how this class doesn't do damage or is just glass and no cannon

[limber cradle]

Hive city brawler?

[mighty belfry]

Like why are we out here lying like this

[limber cradle]

Tbf

Cant do damage if you're dead

[lapis raft]

yea even when bugged the class did plenty of damage

[hardy spruce]

that too but rampage should be enough

lotta dr

i n dat tree

[limber cradle]

Forgot rampage came with DR ngl

[hardy spruce]

yeah a whopping 25%

insane shit

[lost bear]

they're not lying, they're just telling on themselves

[short vine]

The poison stuff the class can do is crazy

[limber cradle]

Yeah, and then HCB is 20 if you're not stammed out

[short vine]

Chem toxin is a menace

[tender marten]

do you also have gorgeous long locks

us fuckable twinks gotta stick together

[hardy spruce]

25% dmg taken after it runs out but you can just

pick double shout

nothing will hit you in those 7 seconds

[limber cradle]

Oh that ik

[mighty belfry]

That was my annoyance with how this class was first received. No one really talked about the actual issues with the class but rather leveled up, didn't really take into consideration hive scum's kit and how to apply it to actually put out some serious damage and thought it was just fundamentally bad.

[lost bear]

the sheer umbrage these mfs can muster for being disappointed in their own skill is pretty fucking astounding

[limber cradle]

Idk why you wouldn't run 2 VoC perk on it

[lapis raft]

i survived overhead with chem fortified as well before

[lost bear]

(that is, if they have the self-awareness and metacognition to locate it there)

[lapis raft]

without rampage up

[hardy spruce]

DUDE

HAHAH

FUCK

[lapis raft]

idk if i had also targeted toxin or nah but probably

[hardy spruce]

I PICKED CHEM FORTIFIED AND FORGOT TO STACK IT

IM SO STUPID

[lost bear]

fucken jabronis saying that they're being called subhuman for being bad at the game lmfao

like whaat

be for real and find real problems

[lapis raft]

lmao

[hardy spruce]

i legit forgot about it

oh my fucking god

[sturdy linden]

Schrodinger's Gamer. Is simultaneously the most skilled player on the team and terrible at the fundamentals of the game.

[lapis raft]

i always forget to stack dependency as well when testing stuff xd

[hardy spruce]

i might have dementia

[mighty belfry]

When the wolf doesn't. Uh. Gloop. Or something. Idk

[vocal saffron]

Gloooop

[mighty belfry]

Welcome back, Inferno Psyker

[lost bear]

nonono, they're ABOVE the fundamentals of the game

it's like being, idk, above small talk and chitchat

[sturdy linden]

the actual difficulty came from the whole burster nonsense that still exists IMO. There was literally 1 meaningful bug on the class that was screwing with survivability (though it was pretty severe granted)

[lost bear]

or being a sleeper build or whatever the fuck they call having delusions of grandeur but not looking like you lift

they think showing up is enough

[mighty belfry]

Tbf there was also the bugs making the class anti synergistic

[vocal saffron]

You're not one of us.

[mighty belfry]

Which did make the class feel jank and not great at times.

[sturdy linden]

what, the box vs chem dep thing? That does not affect your survivability though, you just choose a diff keystone

[short vine]

Any meaningful bugs still present for the class ATM?

[lost bear]

the class was bound to generate some friction to begin with though

because it's coming on the back of the arbites

arbites cannot help but generate space and CC, scum not so much

[manic wolf]

Arb ruined players fundamentals, its true

[mighty belfry]

There was also toxins causing a bunch of friction with on kill effects.

[lapis raft]

well they only fixed needler on kill effects but everything else dot related still doesnt work for the blinder regen

[mighty belfry]

It's all fixed now.

[sturdy linden]

poor talent wording and interactions mostly, e.g. hypercritical with hyperviolence or how a bunch of talents apply to melee only and not ranged but don't explicitly state so

[lost bear]

Adrenaline Smiter doesn't proc on rip kills, but that's relatively niche

[manic wolf]

Mind you, ranged Scum is set to do the same thing so L

[lapis raft]

saw is fixed as well?

[mighty belfry]

But, admittedly, while I do love the class, there was genuine reason for some to be annoyed with it.

[sturdy linden]

what's wrong with Saw

[lost bear]

might also be worth revisiting how kill procs (Haymaker, and now Hypercritical) don't generate toughness on kill

[lapis raft]

and coated weaponry?

[lapis raft]

not generating blinders

[sturdy linden]

oh that, yeah they fixed that

tox kills generate blinders now

[mighty belfry]

I can't really give everyone flak for not vibing with it.

[lost bear]

there was absolutely genuine, good faith reason, but gamers do nuance like a brick to the head

[lapis raft]

all of them? hmm

time to try blinders again i guess

[ruby kelp]

Blinders?

[lapis raft]

becase they def said that they fixed only needler so i assumed they meant it xd

[lost bear]

poison pocket sand is hella fun

if you can afford the node tax

[manic wolf]

It is, but Zooka 😄

[lapis raft]

well node tax is switching +1 nade to pocket sand

[mighty belfry]

I wouldn't even call that a tax.

[short vine]

Blinders are the goat because I'm not a victim of nade vacuums

[lapis raft]

so not rly a tax :d

[mighty belfry]

Blackouts by themselves are already pretty damn powerful for what they are.

That node just brings them to a crazy high point.

Turning something that can stagger immediately into something that can also horde clear as well as proc a bunch of buffs for you and even debuffs for the enemies is crazy strong

I'm shocked that node even exists tbh

[plucky nymph]

why the balls are two melee talents and a redundant ranged talent connected to access ranged only vultures mark keystone

[lost bear]

you do have to go a little out of your way if you're hard invested in melee

but then at that point the poison blinders are unnecessary garnish

[spiral horizon]

I look like Jesus, pretty much

[lapis raft]

well you can do melee with chem dep just fine as well

and then you are right next to it

and i liked chem dep a lot more than adrenaline

[mighty belfry]

I really wouldn't say that, since if you're running melee and path right, poison blinders can also buff your melee damage

[modest patio]

400 is the minimum for 3 stam curios?

[mighty belfry]

Or all of your damage really.

[lapis raft]

410

400 is visual bug

[lost bear]

IME the base damage bonus was a little questionable when I tested, YMMV

it was noticeable on maybe chainsword, with combat axe, tac axe, and heavy sword it was ehhh

[lapis raft]

the base damage is rly nice because it also works on the toxin itself

[carmine solar]

so hypercritical and hyper violence do NOT apply to ranged damage correct?

[lost bear]

yeah but when you bring adrenaline and rampage on a rashad or a heavy sword

[mighty belfry]

It's a self feeding base damage buff

[lost bear]

the left cluster has much higher mileage IME

and you can also path into pickpocket

[mighty belfry]

Me running no keystones so I can run both pickpocket and poison blackouts

[lapis raft]

gunslinger is genrally enough to sustain needler

dont think pickpocket is super necessary

not that i wouldnt takeit if i was near :d

[modest patio]

Does toughness regen on curios stack well?

[haughty slate]

if you're using needle pistol as your main weapon I would definitely recommend pickpocket

[mighty belfry]

Yes but toughness regen not that good

Because it's coherency toughness regen.

[woeful hill]

it stacks well, but the affect it gives is probably the worst perk in the game

[modest patio]

I figured it would help some and wasn't real sure what third to use on curios

[mighty belfry]

What's the other two

[modest patio]

Toughness and HP

[woeful hill]

Stamina regen, gunner res, cdr, thoughness,hp, revive speed are all amazing picks

[modest patio]

usually do revive speed, stamina regen, or a damage res

I'm throwing together desparado so didn't think I'd need stam regen

[mighty belfry]

Revive speed is quite nice on this class because imho

[final comet]

I just do whichever 3 curio types pop up first and then 40 hours later I'll get annoyed enough to change out a curio, then another at 80ish, which usually ends up with all stam

[lapis raft]

revive speed always great

[modest patio]

why is toughness regen so bad?

[mighty belfry]

If you go heavy into stamina, you can make some really dicey revives

[final comet]

Its not as bad as people say but there are better picks in all circumstances with specific use cases basically

[sturdy linden]

Only works when you're not being targeted in melee and is a very small amount

[amber sundial]

coherency regen is slow, gets shut off, and doesn’t scale with any increases toughness

[mighty belfry]

It deactivates the second you're being targeted in melee

[modest patio]

Ah, I see.

[amber sundial]

15 toughness a second with a 100% buff to regen

Compared to the like 200 toughness you can reach with curios

[obsidian crown]

rocket is goated now, ngl

[final comet]

All stams feels illegal somehow

[broken bear]

oh my gawdddddddddddddddd

[obsidian crown]

we jumped into a room full of crushers/ragers/maulers and one rocket cleared like 20+ of them instantly

[woeful hill]

6 man darktide?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920709476724649984/1310958507000070214/consider.gif

[broken bear]

ngl i just get so much dopamine from insta killing maulers

[woeful hill]

haymaker knife?

[broken bear]

huh

[woeful hill]

6 columns

[broken bear]

total

my %

[woeful hill]

imagine

[broken bear]

aiz

[frigid thorn]

Do you need Stoked Rage? I feel like you kill so many elites so fast you get Adrenaline Frenzy back with Smiter lol

[amber sundial]

Ainz is confounded at the mere thought of expanding horizontally

only vertical expansion allowed

[obsidian crown]

Ainz

carry me h40 sometimes

thanks.

[woeful hill]

game lagging too much

[obsidian crown]

not now

[woeful hill]

I havent played much non solo

[obsidian crown]

💀

i go bedge

soon

[broken bear]

LMAO?

i love this

[final comet]

I haven't had the patience to deal with the game finder for havoc, is it more fun than auric maels or just more annoying

[broken bear]

"I havent played much with others"

[obsidian crown]

all good, gonna wait for my buddy to be done with exams in a few weeks then maybe we can run some 40's

if you're down ofc

[woeful hill]

no, offline mode. True solo

[amber sundial]

I remember servers died pretty horribly on a run I had yesterday and a plague ogryn legit couldn’t deal any dmg

[manic wolf]

Jfc man, people dying and leaving at the start of the mission, then the replacements dying and leaving during bossfight, then those replacements dying to the next boss 😂 This modifier is kicking people's asses

[final comet]

I like it tbh

[obsidian crown]

i've been spamming event

it's fun fr fr

[broken bear]

i felt so bad for the scum in my last match

[final comet]

I wish it would stick around

[broken bear]

they are still learning to dodge properly and took like 2.5k damage

😭

[manic wolf]

oof

[broken bear]

its like watching babies first steps

[latent belfry]

gotta start somewhere

[broken bear]

fr

[manic wolf]

There are a lot of ex-F2P people about at the moment it seems

Seeing a lot of people with like 35 levels on Vet and Zealot

[broken bear]

ya

im glad to see em

[manic wolf]

Yesnt, its good that more people are picking up the game, its less good picking them up 10 times a match 😄

[broken bear]

when is the atonement event over btw

[broken bear]

pads my stats

im fine with it

[manic wolf]

Tho tbh, thats less bad than when they just drop out upon dying, that one sucks

[manic wolf]

No idea

[broken bear]

14 revives is sorta crazy last match tho

[obsidian crown]

heresy or damnation?

[broken bear]

damn

[obsidian crown]

yikes

[broken bear]

was unlockin auric

naur it was a new guy

[manic wolf]

If you wanted to farm revives, heresy would be the place to do it

[broken bear]

fine by me

guy is challenging themself

and learnin

tis how u do it

throw em to the sharks till they dont die

does anarchist stack btw

[manic wolf]

Yeah you cant knock em too hard for trying, we were all shit once

[broken bear]

ya

[manic wolf]

I dont think auras of the same type stack, no

[broken bear]

ok bet

[obsidian crown]

i truly think HS is a super hard carry in auriics

[broken bear]

cuz im checkin scums when i get in a lobby

[obsidian crown]

idk about havocs but yeah

[manic wolf]

Im still gonna bitch about the dude that got 21 kills in an Auric STG tho 😄

[main wagon]

I always say, “Everybody starts somewhere” because while some people may have twitch shooter skills that translate from other games, some folks might literally be Rogue Trader oldheads that play RPG’s and RTS games lol

[obsidian crown]

also testing rocket a bit

I'm definitely sold that rocket > chem nades now

[manic wolf]

Arguably Rocket > Blinders at this point tbh, they're basically on par

[obsidian crown]

now see

[manic wolf]

Different roles, but yeah

[obsidian crown]

only reason i put blinders above rocket is b/c of regen

[manic wolf]

They do yeah

[manic wolf]

Thats an advantage for sure, but being able to instantly delete armour walls is just so terribly high value in higher settings. Both are undoubtebly S-tier Blitz options tho

[obsidian crown]

i'm seeing people make bad decisions with rockets so yeah not surprised some folks think chem > rocket

[tender marten]

forget who but some dude jumped into my channel and joined our aurics as a pretty much brand new player with a level 12 (14 at the end) ogryn and he held up pretty damn well lmao. was admirable

[manic wolf]

Good on him tbh

[tender marten]

you only get to really experience the skill climb once, which sucks

[manic wolf]

Nah, not really, you can always improve

[tender marten]

figuring the game out when it initially launched as a level 15 character in damnation was some real shit

[main wagon]

Like I wouldn’t say I was “shit” when I came to Darktide (everyone was kinda shit at launch tbh) but if I started playing VT2 today, I’d definitely be able to hold my own better than someone who never played a tide game

[manic wolf]

I dont think there is a set ceiling in Darktide, which is rare for games all round. Tbh the only other game i've played with an infinite skill ceiling was Elite Dangerous

[main wagon]

Oh god Elite Pilots are scary

[lost bear]

there's levels to this yeah

[broken bear]

yea like i aint insane

[main wagon]

FA off exclusive to with a HOTAS and TrackIR/VR

[manic wolf]

Yeah... after 9K hours, I got pretty good aswell, but it really is one of those games where it rewards time and patience

[broken bear]

maybe a 7-8 in terms of skill

[main wagon]

I could never

[limber cradle]

All I know is that I know nothing.

[manic wolf]

I adore Elite on a hotas, its such a good experience

[mighty belfry]

Tbf. Pocket blinders can also delete armor walls but requires a lot more investment than boom bringer

[obsidian crown]

i consider myself 9-9.5 tbh

[main wagon]

Me watching ARMA KOTH heli pilots

[obsidian crown]

would be elite if i could hear

[limber cradle]

Squad Heli pilots built different

[mighty belfry]

Because toxins are Hella stronk

[main wagon]

They just do a fucking barrel roll to cut all their speed, slam that shit into the ground, 0 damage everyone survives

How? Idk. It’s so impressive

[tender marten]

just like real life

[main wagon]

Real life choppers can at least SKID without instantly imploding

[manic wolf]

For sure, though they don't have the same "this needs to go, right now" use case, which holds them back a bit even if they're competative at the job

[main wagon]

It took until like Arma Reforger for us to get that outside of Battlefield lmao

[tender marten]

real life choppers can barely fly without instantly imploding

[broken bear]

i love a horde of 15 bursters

thats so fun

[manic wolf]

Man, dont, ive seen some scary videos of helicopter accidents over the years

[main wagon]

Koby would’ve survived if his pilot was flying the EA Battlefield helicopters

[manic wolf]

They are legitimately terrifying things

[mighty belfry]

Yeah you do have to wait which in itself is a big downside sometimes.

[main wagon]

You can slam those bitches into buildings and survive

[final comet]

Im a 10/10 or 5/5 or 1/1 player if we lose or i die its everyone elses faults and/or problems

[tender marten]

tox blinders are just ridiculously flexible

you dont really want to toss out all five in a single fight, but the option exists

[main wagon]

Helicopter nighttime water escape is probably the worst way I can imagine going

[tender marten]

and it pretty much deletes any and all problems

and then you get them back lmao

[main wagon]

What do you even do other than curse the universe and maybe the pilot?

[mighty belfry]

And if you have a lot of close range enemies to kill, it is not that hard to get them back

[manic wolf]

Its up there for sure.. Though death whilst cave diving is another particularly nasty one

[tender marten]

im sure i get like 30+ in a game

[obsidian crown]

blackout > rockets > chem list - my blitz tier list

[manic wolf]

Hope

[lost bear]

Sean Bean famously walked to set for Lord of the Rings than take a helo

[manic wolf]

Oh easily for sure

[obsidian crown]

although

[main wagon]

AT LEAST I CAN JUST NEVER CAVE DIVE TO AVOID THAT ONE

[obsidian crown]

I would say

[lost bear]

I say walked, more like hiked/climbed

[obsidian crown]

rockets prolly more value in CC immune modifier in havoc

[main wagon]

Helicopters though? Eventually I’ll ride in one and it’ll haunt the back of my mind

I don’t like flying in planes as an adult versus when I was young

I know too much now

[lost bear]

a good helo pilot is magic though

[manic wolf]

Honestly I think Blinders and Rockets are both at about the same level of viability at this point. Its really fuckin hard to pick one over the other

[lost bear]

saw one supporting a linesman

[obsidian crown]

depends on mood tbh and if ppl wiilling to give you nades

[manic wolf]

Never been on a plane, never want to go on a plane, but its probably gonna be unavoidable

[lost bear]

dude was the next best thing to stationary in a crosswind, enough for his guy to do reasonable fine motor work

[obsidian crown]

last game, i had folks pinging nades for me b/c they saw what I did with it

[main wagon]

If it let me hang out with Vigo before filming for the day fuck it, I’d gladly walk the NZ country as well

[mighty belfry]

I'd say boom bringer is the best complement to needle pistol

[main wagon]

I highly advise ordering alcohol as quickly as possible

[manic wolf]

I think with DAP/Shredder too tbh

[lost bear]

he apparently did the walk solo while the rest of the cast was like "yo is that sean down there"

[main wagon]

Babyface means the flight attendants give me funny looks when I ask for vodka less than 10 minutes into a flight but hey, I’m anxious lol

[manic wolf]

Thats good advice, and something I will act upon immediately

[lost bear]

planes are way less BS than helis

[main wagon]

Like statistically, yes

[manic wolf]

As a British man, its only right to get shitfaced whenever possible

[main wagon]

But my brain doesn’t see it that way

[lost bear]

helicopters exist because physics has as many loopholes as Dungeons and Dragons

[main wagon]

IIRC travel by plane is actually safer than driving

[lost bear]

yeah you seen the median driver?

[main wagon]

And I drive at least 2 hrs every day

[lost bear]

fuck me

[main wagon]

Yet as soon as that plane is taking off

[lost bear]

walkable cities save lives

[main wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/xmirambox-gif-10813701303452996218

Me to the old woman sitting next to me

“TECHNOLOGY IS INCREDIBLE, HUH?”

[hands firmly grasping both armrests]

[lost bear]

I actually look forward to the ear popping sensation

maybe I'm weird

[main wagon]

Ive always been able to do the ear rumbling thing so it never bothered me

My mother used to give me gum because most people have to force the pop

[compact maple]

Anyone else have to deal with stim activation locking up your left click on this class?

[haughty slate]

I think my autopistol build is ready for auric

wish me luck

[main wagon]

Yeah there’s a weird delay after using the stim

I try to Stim->Pop Desperado in that order

Skips the animation and instantly pulls out my tec9’s

[compact maple]

I'll need to record this. Completly prevents me from using left click melee

for like 5 seconds

[spiral horizon]

I'd say you're like 67

[main wagon]

Okay 5s is crazy

[woeful hill]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/886742356529922172/1145863884545204335/attachment.gif

[main wagon]

There’s like a second or so, which realistically in this game feels like 5s

But definitely shouldn’t delay you that long

[lost bear]

the scales aren't linear they're exponential

[compact maple]

hence why I'll need to record .

[main wagon]

Oh hey it’s other Ainz

[livid raven]

Are you using mods

[tight hinge]

anyone noticed that sometime the launcher kills doesnt show on killfeed?

[main wagon]

[main wagon]

Yeah I noticed a couple reapers not get included in a rocket last night

Personally idc because the enemies are still actually dead

And the bajillion shotgunners standing beside them still turned it into the Star Wars title crawl

[tight hinge]

yeah fair, i need that little dopamine hit

[compact maple]

If it is, it's likely gurantee weapon swap mod

[lost bear]

nah but if my teammates didn't see it it doesn't count

[livid raven]

That's what i think too

Did you update it

[main wagon]

The wordless pantomime gestures are my favorite part of any multiplayer video game

Just two people start flailing their mice and spam jumping

[lost bear]

"no you take the ammo instead"

[main wagon]

The Holy TBag

[lost bear]

just reading off vibes

[main wagon]

Either means “u good homie!” or “thank you!”

[lost bear]

had someone try and feed me ammo on Scum

good fellow but I had to fire up vc and tell them I'm post ammo scarcity

[main wagon]

Shit was it me, were you the scum that aura checked me?

Ah no

I pinged a big ammo for either my fellow scum or the vet because they were both below half

Scum just goes “I am beyond requiring ammo”

[lost bear]

still mad at vets who just hoover up grenades without thinking, bro you regen them so fast

[tight hinge]

scum transcend ammo hunger, they shit out ammo

[main wagon]

I shamefully grab a small box and adjust the desperado pin on my hat

I don’t need the ammo, I just like having a soft supply in case I have to go gunzerker to clear the room of shooter trash without desperado

[broken bear]

i hope u stub ur toe on a rusty nail

also u never answered me

bitch

[main wagon]

Since none of the other Scum actually shoot the shooters

They just become Gun Zerg

[spiral horizon]

yes I did

[broken bear]

wat u say then

[main wagon]

Hey watch this

[spiral horizon]

#hivescum-class message

[main wagon]

Hey @spiral horizon

[broken bear]

'ur such a bitch

[spiral horizon]

ayo?

[main wagon]

@broken bear 🚬

[lost bear]

Hive Scum need a full formal business as an outfit somewhere

[main wagon]

Cooler than u

[lost bear]

for the John Woo LARP

[sand tendon]

is there a slider for the hair length? i would like for my hair spikes to be much longer

[main wagon]

Instant reply from coolguyincan

[main wagon]

If only

MASSIVE liberty spikes would go so hard

[sand tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/ugly-duckling-crying-ducks-gif-17315012650507183694

no hair slider? damn...

[main wagon]

Scum does arguably get the best hairstyles in the game though

Small consolation

Before Scum everyone either rocked the Heihachi, the Sister of Battle, or the funny bob with the wings

Or bald. Bald is also always an option

[charred bronze]

anyone running bolt pistol? puncture + lethal proximity for boom tube fun?

Carapace + Flak? Or trade Flak for Unyielding?

[charred bronze]

sides shaved and swept back is popular too

[main wagon]

Anything that isn’t The Skrillex cut

One side looks actually not bad for a longer hairstyle, and then you turn the character

https://tenor.com/view/balding-white-chicks-gif-8309186738606886317

[haughty slate]

2 seconds into a match and our zealot uses a flamethrower on a barrel and knocks my ass out of bounds

unlucky

[main wagon]

Ooooooh Gloriana~

I’ve made a point to shoot all the barrels myself ahead of the team on Gloriana intro lmao

[vocal saffron]

Skibidi dom dom dom yes yes

[zealous ravine]

op gangnam style

[alpine hazel]

has anyone proven that nimble is bugged or is that still up in the air

[vocal saffron]

Still bugged

No bug report

[zealous ravine]

as far as i understand it makes you dodge faster so it ends sooner and thats how u get shot more

[vocal saffron]

In patch note

[zealous ravine]

i think

but for m elee attacks they should take longer to track just fine

[vocal saffron]

Has to do with how the game calculates i frames in dodges w tracking

[trim wind]

Better at dodging melee, a bit worse at dodging ranged

[vocal saffron]

For whatever reason you will dodge further but enemies can track you sooner

The Nerds™ tested it a while ago

[alpine hazel]

nice

[flat mist]

On psyker you just get the right angle with the fgs special and you hear a lovely dinkdinkdink as half a dozen barrels alight

[flat mist]

I’m only using it for sniping ranged and specials so I went flak and maniac. Haven’t actually tested any BPs

If I’m stacking bleed on bosses I’m gonna switch back to melee quickly so the perk doesn’t do much

[manic wolf]

Jesus, I know Zealot is tanky, but that last game was so easy and I had to solo clutch like 4 times

Melee Scummer really do be a "git gudder" experience

[vocal saffron]

What no passive stun immunity* and tdr does 2 a mother flipper

*with no strings attached

[lost bear]

was watching a friend of a friend level Psyker

had to recommend the guy try Zealot instead

just to get his feet under him

[ancient basin]

when you play another class and realize hive scum is like the gravity training room experience, making you git gud

[vocal saffron]

Like recommending your friend who just did a line of pure snow white from Colombia to try crank churned up straight outta a CIA cauldron in Englewood

Zeal a downgrade for a Psyker 4 real

[ancient basin]

melee SG gunker is still my main, so swapping to hive scum was actually pretty easy

hive scum actually feels slower than SG melee gunker, even with the attack speed

as you cant do stupid hyper aggro things as often

[lost bear]

this guy was playing floor inspector psyker

[ancient basin]

atleast not in melee

[lost bear]

level 20

[vocal saffron]

Floor inspector psyker

Lmfao

[ancient basin]

If only psyker had some rending I could apply to devil claw

I would be parry king

[manic wolf]

The Ogryns are upset about our rocket 😄

[livid raven]

Makes sense

[lost bear]

was trying to point him the right way to get more uptime for practicing the game's rhythm basically

[ancient basin]

room is gone vs that pack of crushers specifically is gone

[livid raven]

The frag Grenade is trash in comparison

[ancient basin]

everything under maulers and crushers evaporates

[manic wolf]

Yeaup, I mean... Scummer now has 'nade priority, an thats just how it is now

[ancient basin]

and having those singled out is actually just as good as having no crushers and just horde

[lapis raft]

solid 86% average crit through the whole mission

[manic wolf]

You didnt die at the start of this one then eh? 😄

[lost bear]

what weapon though?

[cedar cairn]

Taking Pickpocket just so the gunlugger can have the ammo out of pity (the zealot is gonna steal it all)

[ancient basin]

We doubled crusher hp and lowered their spawn rate. Que multiple instances of 7+ sized crusher packs spawning on the regular across all auric games regardless of modifiers.

[lapis raft]

not at start :d but also i kinda forgot to sleep since yesterday and its already almost 6am xd

[ancient basin]

pick pocket works on the needler too

never worry about specials or crushers again

pew pew

[manic wolf]

Seriously tho, I do think new Zook is gonna result in a meta shift, because that can actually be done. Ogryn can now take ammo heavier guns if there is a Scummer in the party and Scummer takes the nade pickups

[lost bear]

what's the value proposition of ogryn on ammo heavier guns though?

[manic wolf]

You're all good, im only pullin your leg, I was in a match with you earlier on Ouiblette an you took a Crusher overhead and left before I could grab you

[cedar cairn]

I'm taking the Boomer in Dependecy builds just for the kicks lol

[lapis raft]

lmfao

[ancient basin]

hmm, suppression, horde sweep, pacing control

[cedar cairn]

4 rockets for one grenade? Value city baybee

[manic wolf]

Zook is just incredible team value tbh

[ancient basin]

mostly the pacing control on gungryn

[lost bear]

halved in havoc no?

[cedar cairn]

I don't play Havoc

[ancient basin]

because you can run stubber or rumbler, with rumbler going full ascendant mode similar to purgatus and dueling sword

[cedar cairn]

Queuing sucks

[haughty slate]

after playing more with the bone saw, I can confidently say that is is sadly absolute cheeks

[lost bear]

rumbler already is enabled by Vet ammo aura though

[lapis raft]

bonesaw needs like all the cleave and all the attack speed to even feel decently good right

[haughty slate]

I'm going full melee build with tons of stamina and it still hits like a slow wet noodle

mobility on it sucks too

very disappointing... hopefully fatshark gives it some buffs

[lapis raft]

if the lights were swiping by default that would be nice

[ancient basin]

the raw damage on the light > heavy chain works well for auric hordes in my experience, but you have to pick when to use it vs just swinging fast to clip a few stragglers. its dps on bosses is non existent, but can maintain max tox stacks when paired with needler for massive passive damage.

the raw damage of the heavy overhead drag also does good on single medium dudes like ragers and maulers

[eternal elk]

can run bleed crits and just dot the boss down too

pretty solid dot dmg overall, doesnt really dunk anything though like zealot can or any other class can really

[ancient basin]

bone saw is not amazing over all, mostly because it doesnt stack tox fast enough for me to notice it. And i cant even feel purple do anything most times

if I am bone saw melee dueling more than a single crusher I am in grave danger

[eternal elk]

def agree with purp not being noticable too, think it needs some stronger brittle application or somethin

[ancient basin]

it works, I just dont feel it at all

[charred bronze]

my thinking was to leave it equipped for the explosion radius increase when I use the zooka

[haughty slate]

agreed with everything here.... purp feels like a wasted mechanic and the tox is too weak to make up for its terrible attack speed and middling damage

[charred bronze]

but yeah, to use it as a sidearm for a melee build

[ancient basin]

I feel like the melee damage aura should be 5-10% attack speed to team, would be cooler

[lapis raft]

yea as aura sounsd more in theme as well

[lost bear]

tbh the needler probably makes a better case all round than the bistol even with lethal proximity utility

[eternal elk]

i agree with that, needler having ranged immunity while sprinting as a blessing is such good utility

[ancient basin]

and change melee crit to scale with stamina or something, 1% per stamina

[charred bronze]

yeah, it's hard to top it tbh

[flat mist]

It doesn’t need to be equipped to get the lethal prox bonus on nades

[ancient basin]

so you get even more stamina benefits

[charred bronze]

OH! I thought it took attributes from whichever weapon you had equipped when you dealt damage

[ancient basin]

hear me out, bone saw mark that alt attacks with a pocket sand toss of poison dust

[flat mist]

That’s usually true but lethal prox is weird

[charred bronze]

ah, I thought I was playing wrong since forever

hm, interesting

[ancient basin]

164 more heavy attack kills and then its just mission completes with scum to finish out penences

[charred bronze]

I might try it on an adrenaline build just to see if I like instant spc deletion more than the ridiculous monster damage the needler does

[flat mist]

Yes pls buff my all stam curio scum

[ancient basin]

hell, parry king talents would be cool

[flat mist]

Haven’t done a single run on scum without three stam curios kekw

Bonesaw is a lot quicker when you have +91% attack speed

[sturdy linden]

is Quick and Deadly ranged only?

or both

[charred bronze]

ugh, I forgot how much I hate this gun. The recoil is so jank

lethal prox isn't worth it lol

[sturdy linden]

are you insane LMFAO

you can already get near 100% crit on scum

(on certain weapons obv)

[cyan herald]

perks and bless for dual stubs?

[bronze glade]

flakyielding blaze pf/speedload

[tender marten]

ok boxcutters are fun

[tender marten]

global

[cyan herald]

im not a fan of them, not enough bite for all the bark imho

[tender marten]

megajuice the cleave and go wild

[bronze glade]

but it bites very quickly

https://tenor.com/view/no-christmastree-gif-19176402

[cyan herald]

death of a thousand cuts wont stop a crusher when before you get your head stomped on

[tender marten]

thats what the rocket launcher is for

[bronze glade]

i mean you can get around 2k dps or more against crushers. that's not shabby at all.

[charred bronze]

for adrenaline shivs, finesse stimm? Rending? Crit?

[bronze glade]

that's on the high end if anything

[charred bronze]

i have finesse right now

[bronze glade]

prob crit if you don't have much of it in your tree/blessings

otherwise finesse

you don't need more rending

because you should be taking uncanny

[charred bronze]

yeh, uncanny/precog

plenty of crit in the tree

[lapis raft]

on adrenaline i would just go crit blessing you dont have that much without chem dependency

[charred bronze]

stimm?

[ancient basin]

with crit aura and the small node you have 20% base, add in the 20% from the dodge talent, 20% from riposte and you are at 60% easy

[charred bronze]

or do you mean swap uncanny or precog for riposte?

[ancient basin]

I would swap uncanny personally, works out better for me

[charred bronze]

hm, I'll try it

[ancient basin]

I get more milage out of dot stacking and alt attack poison knives on crushers than the rending from uncanny on shivs

needler off hand is always an answer too, but you can run poison blinders if you dont want to run needler as your side arm

gives you a chance to run or salvage a team mate getting bonked

added damage too