hivescum-class

[undone falcon]

Mobility, must not go fast

[zenith fern]

no rending in this build btw

[tender marten]

Oh? So it can still drop?

[urban pecan]

really? figured going fast would be important with shivs lmao

[random shuttle]

I did it on Despacito build with Vrak (my beloved)

[hushed spear]

cheers boys

[tender marten]

fucken weird

[tender forge]

Yup but you will never know if it is ready

[fringe marten]

unfortunately you wouyld be incorrect

[tender marten]

yep lmao

[urban gull]

Crowbar with the Push blessing is so good, especially when you're drugged up and your piss mode is active

[tender forge]

A down normally fixes it from what I can tell

[fringe marten]

you just can't really compete with 2.5k per light swing at insane attack speeds paired with effectively infinite cleave

[glacial gyro]

Kerfus, I am told you like the IAG on skoom. Which one and why take it over brauto

[undone falcon]

It'd be nice, but everything else is just more important

[spark gyro]

We'd finally get the weapon sights we've been asking for

[vale garden]

OK MLG Darktide player

[timid acorn]

what blessings should i put on crobar?

[tender forge]

Ol columnus goes brrrrr

[undone falcon]

Superiority and bash

[zenith fern]

scum itself and the shivs already has huge movement capabilities

[urban gull]

#hivescum-class message

[random shuttle]

this one

[glacial gyro]

graia brauto go bRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[manic kernel]

The class does have some areas where it does feel weak, mainly in its team utility. other teammates dont benefit alot from having a hivescum in the team.

[jagged radish]

I love that the mastery skin for the crowbar is just a regular red crowbar

[lethal quartz]

randomly jumped into a hi shock auric trench run for boredom with heavy sword

[random shuttle]

and I dunno, just... fast. Quick reload. ADS is good for sniping.

[tender forge]

Vraks iag goes more brrrr

[jagged radish]

It goes so hard

[lethal quartz]

"this class is glass no cannon"

[torpid cloud]

okay the vraks feels like an excellent alternative to the uzis

[rough peak]

Question: How does anyone know how much damage the rocket launcher does to a monster? <.<

[timid acorn]

is unstoppable force not good?

[tender forge]

It also brings back memories

[random shuttle]

Legit I prefer vraks to uzis

[tender forge]

My issue is the crusher adm

I need to get an iag

[dim moth]

it is but like they're already pretty fast

[fringe marten]

i might try vraks instead of uzis and swap to chem dep just because i dont find vulture fun

[torpid cloud]

gonna mmiss the bash on the uzi tho
great to knock back the burster

[glacial gyro]

Hmmm, I suppose not needing speedload does free up a damage perk. I will try it out but I hate aiming on principle

[tender forge]

My issue is trying to find 1 node to cut

[random shuttle]

well i rarely ADS with it

mostly if there's a special at mid range I wanna doornail

usually just run in and

[undone falcon]

Fully charging the heavies may not be possible depending on the situation, so the damage and cleave won't affect you. Superiority is good because the stacks fall off one at a time.

[tender forge]

For whem chem dependency is fixed

[random shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-started-blasting-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-danny-devito-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-blasting-gif-24425727

I also use Zooks with my Depacito build

because fuck meta

Zooks is cool mkay

[torpid cloud]

TRUST ME BRO

[undone falcon]

Shit looks like a lizardman, just squint a little

[tender forge]

Im honesly considering dropping like a butterfly

[torpid cloud]

its the extra dodge with ranged weapon node

[glacial gyro]

By zooks I think you mean bazooka

[random shuttle]

yes

Zookie

Good ol Zookinni

[glacial gyro]

Hell yeah

[tender forge]

I like blackouts but they sorta just dont regenerate properly

[undone falcon]

But it looks like a lizardman if you squint bro, commisar's gonna have words for you bro

[glacial gyro]

I use blackouts on my rampage build because as an oh shit button they can't be beat

[tender forge]

[glacial gyro]

but bazooka in all other cases

[manic kernel]

There a weird dicothomy in the hive scum's tree where all damage sources buff either ranged damage or melee damage that gets buffed rather then any instances of both being buffed. which is a huge difference from classes like the veteran as can be seen in the skrimisher talent.

[knotty grotto]

are braced autos any good now or is infantry still the way to go

[random shuttle]

Yeah don't get my love of Zooks as recommendation

[glacial gyro]

(I also don't want to get used to leaning on chem nade because that shit WILL get nerfed)

[random shuttle]

I am fully aware Chernobyl Nades and Pocket Sand is better.

But

[dim moth]

yeah

[torpid cloud]

do i look the type to care what he says

[random shuttle]

I like Zooks.

[fringe marten]

i mean im p sure bazooka's initial direct hit also scales with ranged damage so it doesn't not fit

[timid acorn]

whats the best melee weapon for a melee build for rampage?

[dim moth]

but hive scum also has the easiest source of infinite ammo ever

so like

just shoot everything

[random shuttle]

Saw, Crowbar, Shivs, Rashad

[vale garden]

Sounds like Rashad or the slashy shivs

[undone falcon]

You may not care about what he says, but you will care when he's got that bolt gun pointed at you. Don't take no trait that looks like xenos filth

[dim moth]

or stab everything

[obsidian crown]

True. Just did the no ammo auric mael earlier. Was fun but had pox bursters pushed on me by teammates a few times 🙄

[glacial gyro]

Is that so... So a desperado build with everything up will hit like a thunder hammer zealot without making me use a totally gimped build against anything that's not a plague ogryn

interesting

[tender forge]

I had a walker long jump at me

[random shuttle]

Bursters are wilding recently.

[tender forge]

Like 20 feet

[fringe marten]

rashad pretty easily if you're looking for the overall best melee, but that isn';t to undermine how strong the other options are either

[tender forge]

Wish I recorded video

[torpid cloud]

ill dodge that too

[glacial gyro]

I've been jumped on by entire groups that were completely silent, it is maddening

[tender forge]

Btw any ui mods updated?

[random shuttle]

Rashad + Bromentum + Hyper-Violence

[undone falcon]

Taking universal weapons on the hive scum class? Icky, stinky.

[fringe marten]

yeah more or less, although you might miss havin a different blitz just for their unique utilities

[ocean fiber]

the strikedown shivs are pretty good

[tender forge]

Specifically ones that let you choose what buffs you wsnt to show

[random shuttle]

I mean, Arby's best gun is old Combat Shotgun

[ocean fiber]

they're my favourite weapons to run on a rampage build

[undone falcon]

But muh class fantasy

[fringe marten]

this is a completely fine opinion to have! :D

[random shuttle]

It's a shotgun

[tender forge]

I mean its on the class

[random shuttle]

Still very on point 😄

[knotty grotto]

rashad perks?

[tender forge]

Whatever you want dead most

[undone falcon]

But it's not the right shotgun, gw is frowning at you right now

[fringe marten]

my class fantasy is cosplaying a coked up blender and rashad fulfills that pretty easily

[glacial gyro]

If I'm running desperado, I don't want blackouts because blackouts are for escaping and I am not interested in escaping, as long as I keep holding down trigger I will trust the Vulture's Dodge procs and just keep shooting. I also don't want to use chem nades as if things are going to die I want them to die by bullet. So zooka remains the correct choice.

[tender forge]

My bh is a drug dealer

[knotty grotto]

oh huh still the same

[tender forge]

Low finesse smh

[timid acorn]

honestly i just dont wanna use rashad cause the other weapons are so intresting and ive used combat axes too much

[fringe marten]

this is ocmpletely real and true

[random shuttle]

Yes that 6% realy cost me 2-3 dmg

[glacial gyro]

shit roll, recycle trash, 0/10 weapon return to brunt

[fringe marten]

that's fine, you dont have to use the best option
hivescum's unique class weapons are still very vvery very strong with rampage

[tender forge]

Shit roll, punch hadron in the face

[dim moth]

this does NOT kill the bruiser

[vale garden]

I think I just had the single worst net Ive ever seen

[tender forge]

It loses its sainted status

[vale garden]

Shot me through stairs and a fence

[ocean fiber]

bazooka does not scale with ranged damage unfortunately it's bugged i'm p sure

[tender forge]

I had one through 2 sets of boxes

2 days ago

[undone falcon]

Gonna turn you into a servitor that exists to flush ogryn toilets

[glacial gyro]

The real sleeper melee with Scum is the chaxe. I am not joking. Its basically Rashad but you can kill Crushers instantly.

[ocean fiber]

it's okay for crushers on a desparado build but the other two are less janky

[dim moth]

is it the light attacks again

[tender forge]

Nah, shes gonna do that to kerfus

[vale garden]

Hyper critical slashing shivs trust

[dim moth]

PLEASE tell me the Mk IV light attacks have a brand new even funnier breakpoint on scum

[random shuttle]

nah it scales and is good

[fringe marten]

eh i mean, i dunno
as stated before there's a use-case in a pretty geneeral build for 'em where they fit the best

[rose flax]

It doesn't work if kills are from dot

[glacial gyro]

Of course, swing my chainaxe side to side

[dim moth]

hell yeah

[tender forge]

Im aware

[random shuttle]

yeah chaxe is good on rampage

but

[upbeat creek]

Absolute noob here, question regarding weapon stats: Do I have to buy/find weapons till I find one with the right stats? Like I've seen a video in which every stat was on 80% except one, they've said its the dump stat for that weapon

[random shuttle]

all melees are good on meleescum

[fringe marten]

desperado on braced works well i've heard, but iag is fvery good too

[random shuttle]

yes

[tender forge]

I need to prove this or figure out if its somehow that massive of a skill issue

[glacial gyro]

I don't know about breakpoints but I do know that if you invest in some cleave it kind of just eats everything in front of you in one hit

[random shuttle]

you buy greys at Brunt until you gamble into a perfect roll

[rose flax]

Makes sense, main issue was mobility, attack speed and damage was already great

[tender forge]

But yeah need mods to do that because for some reason the nade regun buff icon isnt displayed at all

Unless in psykanium

[fringe marten]

you want your potential stats to line up with what you want them to look like, then you empower the weapon until those stats are filled out

so more or less yes

[upbeat creek]

alright, thank you lads

[rose flax]

Oh yeah, it works completely fine but only shows outside of meat grinders

[bronze glade]

it's really good, idk if it beats rashad tho

[glacial gyro]

You don't need to close the gap with gunners when the needle pistol exists and can onetap them

[austere topaz]

Is the crit bleed bessing good on dual shivs?

[tender forge]

It only shows in the meat grinder

[austere topaz]

Or do you still run uncanny?

[tender forge]

Also I cant be applying chem toxin while spraying with my uzis

[fringe marten]

honestly? i actually wouldn't doubt it that much, although i'd imagine the attack speed is a fair bit slower and it has less ccleave?

[rose flax]

Sorry I meant inside

[bronze glade]

uncanny + FT is i think the best combo

[rose flax]

Doesn't it only work with melee?

[tender forge]

Not in the grinder

[austere topaz]

Really? Not riposte?

[timid acorn]

does anyone feel like really slow when using rampage?

[tender forge]

Amd honestly melee kills are less likely to proc it than ranged for me

[bronze glade]

would be my 3rd pick, but we only get 2 blessing slots

[austere topaz]

Makes sense

[vale garden]

lol

[undone falcon]

How are you running your Rashad btw, I'd like to give it a go

[random shuttle]

here guys

[rose flax]

Oh, it doesn't require melee but it does have distance limit, only with in 12.5 meters

[random shuttle]

I made a SUPER secret meta Rashad

[tender forge]

Yes

[random shuttle]

😏

[bronze glade]

i see the tanner stamp of approval!

[tight musk]

Now I can forget the rocket launcher exists.

[vale garden]

two wounded allies, two non-scum including an arby with no stim
scum both mark the med stim right by us as we're about to activate the shrine event.
Neither pick it up

[tender forge]

But I still think it is only triggering per 20 kills (as in one stack per 20 kills)

[undone falcon]

🤢

[fringe marten]

headtaker, bromentum, unarmored and carapace

[glacial gyro]

After using both, I would say they are both incredible, so it comes down to taste, and chainaxe matches my drip more than the caxe

[tender forge]

I just gotta find the mods that let me pin certain buffs so it appears

So I can check in missions

[glacial gyro]

You get so much attack speed from rampage this is a non-issue, and you acan get cleave in the tree

[bronze glade]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[random shuttle]

It's meta truss me

[fringe marten]

perks arent even really necessary for aurics i find, i just took unarmored for the hyper-violence meme and carapace because i ts the only thing i even remotely struggle against

[tender forge]

If you really want to go all in on mulching carapace

Cara elite

[glacial gyro]

kerfus for a moment I was legitimately angry and was about to correct this. You got me, well done but also fuck you

[nova tangle]

oh boy time to play the game of can i get my hands on a real +3 stamina charm!

[fringe marten]

yeah ccara elite does also work i just like my big number from hyper-violence

[tender forge]

Fair

[random shuttle]

I am a great baiter.

You could say.

A MASTER Baiter.

[glacial gyro]

I might swap maniac out for carapace, thoughts? (ignore the 400 I am broke rn)

[timid acorn]

is rampage even good? it seems really restrictive

[torpid cloud]

okay vraks doesnt have run n gun built in

right

[random shuttle]

Restrictive?

[glacial gyro]

its fucking incredible if you know what you are doing

[tender forge]

Yeah

[glacial gyro]

(IE don't stand around once it wears off)

[limber cradle]

very, very good

[tender forge]

My favorite ability is still stimm pack

[fringe marten]

it is SO good imho

[timid acorn]

i also feel like im like WAY slower when its active, i dunno, maybe im too used to desperado

[manic kraken]

is this skill like....actually bugged? not just the description?

[random shuttle]

Look at my sexy arsenal

[glacial gyro]

If you are a Based Vulture Enjoyer you will feel slow when using a melee build, it is true

[timid acorn]

but also, im malding cause IMMEDIATELY when swapping to melee, next mission is like 800 gunners off rip with no cover

[torpid cloud]

no it works

[tender forge]

Dibosia

[torpid cloud]

what does sainted even do

[tender forge]

I need a new modlist

[manic kraken]

damn...doesnt really feel like a lot

[limber cradle]

slide at em

[tender forge]

Its a mod for 500 power weps

[dim moth]

makes it red :)

[tender forge]

My sainted weapons are green

[timid acorn]

what does that do?

[fringe marten]

i just abuse slide and sprint dodge

[glacial gyro]

Nothing, its cosmetic for those of us who enjoyed having red weapons in VT2

[timid acorn]

i like my guns yes

[limber cradle]

sliding effectively stops you from getting shot

[random shuttle]

also helps filter out visually useless golds from rewards

[tender forge]

@random shuttle what is the mod for the weapon naming btw

[manic kraken]

fact some may have not noticed, when ramapge ends your heart beats really loudly and superquickly (in game

[timid acorn]

the crowbar is just not working well for me, its so awkward

[random shuttle]

NameIt

And then, there's my legendary Revolver

[tender forge]

K thanks gonna add that to my list

[vale garden]

I do wish there was a QuickPlayButOnlyEventMissions option

[unkempt salmon]

Behold

Normal woman

[tender forge]

Also numericui os dead right?

[manic kraken]

damn

[random shuttle]

yes but on mod server you can find a fix

[tender forge]

K Ill have to take a look

Bit I also need one for buff management

[fringe marten]

i mean by the time it ends my heart is also beating really loudly and super quickly because of the amount of serotonin using rampage produces

[bronze glade]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-metroman-my-death-was-greatly-exaggerated-gif-19307347

[manic kraken]

you are an interesting lad thats for sure

[glacial gyro]

The modding discord has a temp fix until it gets fully updated

[tender forge]

Yeah Ill take a look I am in there

[manic wolf]

Like taking an E, but without the shitty next day

[manic kraken]

wha

[random shuttle]

I am proud of my taxe

TOMAHAWKTUAH

[glacial gyro]

Scum makes me feel actual primal emotions while playing, something I haven't felt since Slayer Bardin

[manic kraken]

we need a single stub pistol

[drifting heron]

Anyone know perks for dual semis

[manic kraken]

so i can call it "John Wick's fav"

[fringe marten]

oh yeah same

[manic wolf]

For Desperado?

[fringe marten]

at first i didnt really feel it but the melee build has me hooked

[drifting heron]

Rampage

[bronze glade]

@tender forge this is what im using

[drifting heron]

I just need breakpoint perks

[manic kraken]

grab shivs throw knife, ez (im shitposting ignore me

[tender forge]

Thanks

[manic wolf]

Probably Pinning an the suppression one, icr what its called

[drifting heron]

Those are blessings

I need perks

[misty condor]

dual shiv blending

[manic wolf]

Oh shit, myb, Flak/Maniac

[drifting heron]

And I'm running run n gun speedload

[tender forge]

Also I went on nexus and all of the mods are mods for better stimm cooldown ui

[unkempt salmon]

Desperado
Akimbo pistols
Gunslinger duster
Just as the God-Emperor intended

[manic wolf]

Lule

[torpid cloud]

I used to abuse the cannon
Yeah I was bad how'd you know

[glacial gyro]

I have taken actual vengeance against a scab shooter that hit me in the back while I was killing his friends. Like he poked me and did health damage and I killed him, hit his dead body like 4 times, and felt actual rage and catharsis while doing it.

[unkempt salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/cad-bane-clone-wars-the-bad-batch-star-wars-gif-16368409260353997255

[torpid cloud]

An ogryn did that with a trapper the last mission I played

[amber sundial]

it was a trapper they deserved it regardless of what they achieved that mission

[torpid cloud]

Also since I started playing scum I've been getting so many "kill x of y enemy" penances done it's unreal

[manic wolf]

Trappers deserve to be clubbed, then stoned and pissed on for good measure

[amber sundial]

feels like they ramped up the director tbh

[torpid cloud]

Good

[amber sundial]

My friend had a trapper that was below them on a dropdown and it forced them back up the point of no return lmao

They 100% deserve it

[manic wolf]

Oof, that sucks. Bastard things

[nova tangle]

ayyy lvl 30 scum

[torpid cloud]

Everytime I get queued into the twin mission I'm happy cause there's a lot of materials there, but also annoyed since that's the mission I fail the most

[hexed lava]

does chem from bonesaw counted as "chem toxin"?

[tender forge]

yes

[hexed lava]

ty

[patent bone]

I must know if Fatshark is actually working on fixing that cartel proud cosmetic

I want to wear it, but it's purple

[timid acorn]

hows the bonesaw for hordes?

[patent bone]

And the mod crashes so fuq

[supple torrent]

Does the stim last 15 seconds like the normal ones?

[torpid cloud]

Purple is good

[glacial gyro]

@random shuttle Had an idea last night, I don't think its a good idea but what do you think about a single wound curio on Scum? Since its so fragile, 3 toughness doesn't do that much more than 2 of them, and wound covers for your fragility by giving your team a third shot. Sometimes going down just happens and a single mistake can down you, so I hypothesize that a third strike might cover for that. Yes yes, skill issue, just never get hit lmao, but I think everyone if they are being honest knows that's not actually always possible.

[sinful matrix]

If you go down, you die

Wounds are pointless

Unless you're like. . . just playing regular difficulty board

[random shuttle]

I would never

[patent bone]

Not on the blue gangs cosmetics it ain't

[sinful matrix]

But in Aurics, Maelstroms, and Havocs, wounds are worthless due to this

[patent bone]

Now I just look homeless

[random shuttle]

I dont use wound on vet or psyker

if you die you die as Puri says

[glacial gyro]

Fair enough, just a random shower thought

[torpid cloud]

Just join the water cartel
We will take you with open arms

[patent bone]

Fuck no

Blue team for life

[glacial gyro]

all 3 of them

I know what you are

[verbal terrace]

Purple is awesome

[random shuttle]

I mean ofc, go for it, there is no GAMING police here

[patent bone]

Nuh uh

[random shuttle]

just for me it would be a waste of curio 😄

[verbal terrace]

Yeah huh

[patent bone]

Nuh uh

[torpid cloud]

That's it, next time I see you it's on sight

No more water for you either

[random shuttle]

Water cartel controls 70% of Imperium population

since all humans are 70% water

[patent bone]

Next time I see you I'll just point at the Water Cartel corpses in the torrent

"These yo homies?"

[random shuttle]

Also think about it

you don't like the Water Cartel?

[winter wren]

question, how are we handling carapace enemies when we run out of bazookas? I feel like HS cant really handle armor, looking for advice

[random shuttle]

Fair

[glacial gyro]

Lord Magleviathan

All of your arguments are invalid, sorry

[random shuttle]

What about...

HYDROHOMIES?

[verbal terrace]

Yes, and they died valiantly.
Next question.

[patent bone]

Lady Steel

[patent bone]

"Bruh they in a CART. That's invalid af"

[glacial gyro]

Easily the second best boss name (behind Lord Magleviathan, which is peak)

[patent bone]

They're banging

[verbal terrace]

THEY DIED PROCTECTING THEIR TURF WHILE YOU COWARDS JUST LET THE HERETICS TAKE OVER EVERYTHING

[random shuttle]

Dan Abnett wrote LORD MAGELVIATHAN

[glacial gyro]

Fuck, now we're getting fedcoms

[patent bone]

Bitch we in charge of the Tithe. We had other shit to do

[devout bison]

I have fallen in love with gun hivescum. This is a clip from damnation with a braced autogun with only 200 power. You never have to stop shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS-bjE3WQaQ

[patent bone]

I hear Lord M is a chick, is this true?

[alpine hazel]

vulture mark vs dependency for Desperado? they both feel pretty good

[languid sandal]

My problem with it is the downside is ridiculous for an ability that is weaker than scriars gaze, and it punishes you for having good teammates who can kill hoards effectively, especially on higher difficulties.

[barren pebble]

wait do people think margrave is a family name

[torpid cloud]

Jakka is trying to start a gang war

[barren pebble]

thats a noble rank

[torpid cloud]

And I'm all for it

Lemme at em

[glacial gyro]

Lord M transcends our puny weakling understanding of gender, sex, and role. They simply are.

[patent bone]

So Yuri then?

[alpine hazel]

fr this ability is toxic with desperado since they just steal all your kills

by the time you dive 2 gunenrs they wipe out the horde already

[glacial gyro]

Expect a train to drive through your house at 3:34 AM on tuesday

[sinful matrix]

I was a chick in the 40s, no one could possibly understand my sexual preferences so che-che-che-check your privilege

type shit

[barren pebble]

do we think they intended stim supply and chemical dependency to have antisynergy even though they're on the same side of the tree

[alpine hazel]

nerfed at last minute

it used to work

[patent bone]

Tank beats train

[languid sandal]

It was a hot fix nerf to prevent game ruining issues

[barren pebble]

oh lol

[verbal terrace]

You've never seen an artillery train, have you?

[glacial gyro]

nope

[barren pebble]

oh i see the problem, it would shorten its own cooldown lol

[sinful matrix]

planes beat artillery train

[patent bone]

We have more tanks

[supple torrent]

yeah but it wasn't doing it right

[sinful matrix]

(planes also usually beat tanks)

[patent bone]

Yep

[barren pebble]

the weakness of train is some guys with angle grinders

[supple torrent]

It was pretty much instant for some reason

[torpid cloud]

Mh
I sometimes feel bad for my teammates when I use scum
They don't really get to kill stuff when my ability is up

[languid sandal]

Like in what world are you meleeing hoards for 20+ seconds when flame staff psyker is in the game

[calm aurora]

Karen

[barren pebble]

they just have to get to the tracks 20 minutes early

[verbal terrace]

We aren't talking about planes here

[glacial gyro]

Well I could be wrong but I think the only ones with planes right now are the heretics and the inquisition so everyone else is kind of fucked

[patent bone]

Moebian 21st and 53rd air force still in play

[torpid cloud]

I wanna play the train mission more

The constant assault is really fun

[barren pebble]

the 53rd probably doesnt have a huge number of valkyries considering their tactical role but they should have some combat aircraft

[near vapor]

the legendary harness is so good

GW approved shirtless

[sinful matrix]

Have you seen Ogryn's fits recently?

We been doing shirtless

[barren pebble]

my ogryn is no shirt no shoes the only cosmetics allowed

[glacial gyro]

fatshark still unable to foot the bill for recoloring the female body bra depending on cosmetic (this would cost five minutes that would be better spent on shop cosmetics)

[torpid cloud]

I'm very certain scum won't stay as it is rn for long but man
Ill look back upon this version fondly cause it's so damn fun

[timid acorn]

what are good blessings on shiv"?

[barren pebble]

uncanny riposte probably?

[torpid cloud]

Uncanny and the finesse damage one

[glacial gyro]

If it gets nerfed it will be basically unplayable for all but six people

If it gets buffed it will become absolutely oppressive

I think its in a good state right now

[dim moth]

depends on what you're using it for

[sinful matrix]

Honestly, if Fatshark doesn't cater to people who can't stay alive, I can't see it changing much.

But if they give it more passive survivability outside of the ults, it'll definitely catch some damage output nerfs which would be sad.

[dim moth]

since uncanny is only 45%

[kind zodiac]

is it just me or do the hive scum and veterans get along?

[timid acorn]

rampage

[dim moth]

and the tox knives special kills crushers real good

o

yeah prob uncanny+riposte/precog then

[barren pebble]

cutthroat at least

[near vapor]

no

[glacial gyro]

Yeah this is the big thing, lose some glass, lose some cannon, and that would suck

[near vapor]

the bra and underwear arent separate entities

[tender marten]

anyone know the actual cleave values on the crowbar

[barren pebble]

some of the vets would have been hive scum if they werent tithed lol

[near vapor]

but so much as part of the bodies's model

[dim moth]

father I crave the damage

[patent bone]

Professional gets along with Outlaw the most, BH second most.

[torpid cloud]

Then again wiping out gunner hordes with zero issue is kind of insane

(though probably appreciated by your teammates who arent immune to them)

[near vapor]

its not a simple recolor

[glacial gyro]

It should be no more complex than changing skin color

[barren pebble]

people saying desperado is bad is crazy to me

[charred bronze]

hm, thoughts on the best weapon to finish the 'kill enemies with heavy attacks while cartel special is active' penance? Using crowbar, but doesn't seem ideal

[dim moth]

Yeah BH is friends with all the usual "professional" voices like Savant Psyker, Cutthroat, Professional vet, etc.

[novel quest]

I'm on a whole different vibe playing this class with doom music ngl, makes the experience so much more visceral

[torpid cloud]

Maybe they will remove the time extension on ranged kill in desperado and instead give an increased base time of it

[dim moth]

With the most snippy they get with eachother them lamenting that BH ended up being a killer for hire rather than killer for a cause

[torpid cloud]

That may work

[barren pebble]

probably rashad combat axe? big fat cleave heavy

[kind zodiac]

really from the dialog that i've heard seeing as i play as the professional vet he seems to get along well with the outlaw

[near vapor]

the bra and underwear is baked into the body model proper (look how weird they bend following the curve of the bones)

[warped dagger]

Is stimm supply bugged? I dont think its supposed to use your stim without proccing dependency stack

[charred bronze]

thanks, I'll check it out. spam lights for armor, heavies for hordes?

[ripe seal]

Maybe one of the heavy swords that has the repeating swipes on all heavies past the first one? Should cut through hordes like butter

[dim moth]

yes confirmed bug

[warped dagger]

I see

[near vapor]

cutthroat doesnt xd

outlaw gets along with fellow friendly personalities

[mortal hearth]

whats the difference between both marks of the needler ?

[charred bronze]

man, I haven't used a heavy sword for a long, long time. Good thought though, hordeclear was kinda always their thing

[bronze glade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1444017590748975125/1446774231940464822/6F3EDC1.MP4?ex=69353500&is=6933e380&hm=75f1ac24606061da880f66daf86e7bd30380feeb449358c96f834c9030d5bd9e&

[torpid cloud]

Then again for all the ease with which I can clear gunner hordes I really do struggle on boss damage (on the human guys, the shielded ones)

[bronze glade]

idk about that

[near vapor]

I love how the Outlaw calls out the Anarchist for being the worst of the worst. And calling out the Maul for just being a psycho

[languid sandal]

Man the stims are a major let down too. I wish they had unique effects and not just regular stims but worse...

[timid acorn]

whats the best keystone modifiers for rampage?

[dim moth]

toughness regen and weakspot stacks

[ripe seal]

I hardly remember to use regular stims outside heal and cooldown so I thought I would be using them more as scum

[barren pebble]

you just kinda use heavies for everything and run brutal momentum headtaker iirc

[ripe seal]

But that’s more me

[dim moth]

but imo adrenaline is fine with no modifiers added

since it gains stacks on hit and is not capped per swing

[languid sandal]

The types of explosions they do. One is an aoe that spreads poison and the other is an explosion.

[glacial gyro]

You're talking about rigging, I am talking about texture space. The two are barely related. Changing the color of the undergarment would be no more complex than changing skin tone, which I am guessing is done with a filter rather than an entirely new texture as that would be enormous. But, even if that were the case, that each skin tone is its own texture file, you could do the undergarment with a filter. Its white so just an RGB tint would do 100% of the heavy lifting.

Worst case scenario, separate out the texture file for that mesh. I have no idea how much actually references that texture space but I'm going to guess "not much".

[random shuttle]

Anyway my shmoopsies, by dingleberries, my delightful crusty toblerones - time for sleepies. Goodnight!

[mortal hearth]

really ? I tested in simulacrum and didnt really see any real difference other then the toxin dot dmg on the toxin

[sinful matrix]

Night kerfus, sleep well o/

[dim moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1385725199068037270/caption.gif

[undone falcon]

Goodnight!

[ripe seal]

the AOE poison spread one also gives less poison stacks on crit/headshot compared to the other one

[patent bone]

Tbf the anarchist is just a straight goblin

[timid acorn]

slash shiv or stab shiv?

[bronze glade]

stab

[dim moth]

I prefer slash shiv

but then I play melee with a toxin build not melee damage

[undone falcon]

Stab

[glacial gyro]

rashad heavies are overhead strikes aren't they

[timid acorn]

can you stack bleed on that?

[dim moth]

yeah

slash shivs have faster lights with better cleave

[ripe seal]

why would I want a cleave based heavy attack when the main appeal of weapons like the kinife or shives is cutting through hordes with good light spam

[bronze glade]

it's barely any extra cleave tho

[languid sandal]

Good info, thanks. I prefer the mark VI personally but they are both decent.

[bronze glade]

and your ST combo is total ass

[dim moth]

cleave is cleave

[barren pebble]

it might bee light spam one of them goes sideways and with brumo mulches hordes

[dim moth]

my single target combo is pressing weapon special 3 times

[bronze glade]

it's like 1 cleave lol

[ripe seal]

light for hordes, heavies for single target

[barren pebble]

been a while since i rashaded

[bronze glade]

so with buffs, you prob cleave one more poxxer?

[wind star]

welp hive scum is my favoite class

[dim moth]

yeah

[dim moth]

who then DIES

bitch deserved it

[barren pebble]

if rashad is lights then yeah probably heavy sword for heavy attack kills

[languid sandal]

Class is SO fun, my only trouble is surviving any poxbursters...

[glacial gyro]

I used catachan sword for it, the heavies are horizontal slices back and forth

[wind star]

push

[dim moth]

anyways the main appeal of slashy shiv is the faster lights

[warped dagger]

Also needle gun doesnt proc ranged kills nodes?

[barren pebble]

... push?

[dim moth]

them having extra cleave is just kind of a lil' bonus that I don't think about

[timid acorn]

how do you get more critical hit chance on scum?

[languid sandal]

Teammates + so many DoTs in the game right now

[warped dagger]

Dependency

[barren pebble]

not unless you kill with the 30 impact damage

[torpid cloud]

There's options

Get good at using the uzi bash to knock them away like you would shove with a melee
Shoot them when they are still far away

Run the fuck away and let your team handle it

[dim moth]

drugs, chemical dependency keystone (melee), vulture's mark keystone (ranged), and float like a butterfly up top

[ripe seal]

original chainsword or mk1 devil claw could also work for heavy horde clearing

[timid acorn]

is adrenaline frenzy worth it or is chem dependency just better?

[barren pebble]

oh this was meant to reply to activating ranged kill nodes lol

[bronze glade]

mk1 dclaw is really ass

[dim moth]

chem dependency is only really good with desperado/rampage

to keep them active near permanently

[torpid cloud]

Then again vulture is borderline invincibility

[barren pebble]

i mean it doesnt work with stim supply now lol

[glacial gyro]

that last one is really important right now, you need to run from bombers you see because people are just blasting them when they get close

[lavish parrot]

Ok fellas lowkey
Stimm crate tox build with bone saw kinda fun

[dim moth]

and yeah keystone straight doesn't work with stimm supply

[ripe seal]

its all wide sweeping heavies if you're just rtying to get the most amount of trash killed per swing, and you still have the parry to fall back to for defense

[bronze glade]

honestly i think it's really only good with desperado

[languid sandal]

Since most recent patch, pushing feels extremely risky because of teammates.

[bronze glade]

adrenaline is too important to skip

[barren pebble]

free weekend means your team is out to get you

[bronze glade]

for rampage builds

[charred bronze]

honestly, does the toxin tick proc any on kill nodes?

[lavish parrot]

Poisonmaxxing is fun

[rough peak]

So the difference, mainly, between the 2 shiv marks is one has cleaving heavies and one has single target heavies? Both have cleaving lights :\

[glacial gyro]

its the free weekend doing it

[dim moth]

sample collector :)

[barren pebble]

yeah but only raw "on kill"

[lavish parrot]

Yeah the corkscrews are just better

[dim moth]

I just use my comical mobility to push up, kill a few guys and retreat to do it again once it's safe again

[sinful matrix]

Correct

[timid acorn]

is it a good idea to mix chem melee with bleed?

[dim moth]

cleaving heavy shiv's lights are faster and have better stats

[charred bronze]

it's a testament to how good the gun is that I wouldn't give a shit if it didn't proc anything, mind you

[ripe seal]

i think the modifiers on the cleaving heavies one are better for the lights as well, but single target damage is less straight forward

[bronze glade]

works well with shivs

[glad latch]

Yes.

[dim moth]

your single target combo is like

marginally worse tho

[vale garden]

Id rather use things other than bleed

On a chem build

[barren pebble]

the needle gun is so fun

[dim moth]

a LOT worse on melee builds

[vale garden]

Crit is more important imo

[ripe seal]

I think both versions of the shiv are balanced and play in the exact same way as both versions of the original knife, with the cleaving heavy one needing to do push attack spam for single target

[lavish parrot]

No joy or whimsy

[charred bronze]

how do you single target with the sweeping shivs? Tried it in the psychanium and couldn't figure it out

[dim moth]

but also just throw a tox knife or two at anything tanky

and wow it's dead

[barren pebble]

i love plinking a guy while running by and then he falls over behind me like 5 seconds later

[languid sandal]

I think also the net code for the game is slightly worse.

Lots of poxbursters exploding early, or late.

I've had a couple instances of them exploding with no animation either.

[dim moth]

push attack into heavy

[charred bronze]

ahh gotcha

carpal tunnel weapons 🙁

[rough peak]

both do a stab heavy after the push attack, otherwise... and both push attacks look almost identical to me

[sinful matrix]

I need to grind out another 20kish plasteel and 2 mil gold to fix up the rest of the weapons on my hive scum to try em out

[warped dagger]

Dunno

[dim moth]

the difference between them single target wise on a tox build is not a lot

[glacial gyro]

check the killfeed, one of your teammates shot it, guarantee

[sinful matrix]

I suppose needle pistol is about as upgrade agnostic as you can get though

[lavish parrot]

Just gonna clarify
Bonesaw dump is just mobility right? No other stats?

[sinful matrix]

even raw stats are largely meaningless outside of mag capacity/total ammo

[languid sandal]

That's the thing though, there was no kill feed on it. Poxburster just spawned from a wall and it was just me.

[barren pebble]

yeah i legit dont know what to take on needle pistol

[glacial gyro]

no idea then

[lavish parrot]

I remember path said only things matter on it are mobility and ammo and that's it

[barren pebble]

bonesaw seems like it really wants wrath and then refined lethality is good

[rough peak]

Here I thought the mk1 was the cleaving one due to the lights being cleave attacks, how wrong I was >.>'

[bronze glade]

shock and awe and deci

[glacial gyro]

the only thing the needler wants is crit, which is easy enough. Interesting to note, the perks on the weapon DO affect toxin damage, so carapace and unyielding are the choices.

[lavish parrot]

Wrath and Shock and Awe is my pick

[languid sandal]

The blessing that grants ranged attack immunity on sprint is really good.

The needle doesn't need much stats or blessings to be effective.

[charred bronze]

I've seen some jank behavior, like bombers spawning into a hallway, and both immediately dropping bombs with almost no delay, dogs running out of doorways directly into a takedown with no leap, stuff like that. But I think that kind of jank has always happened?

[lavish parrot]

Oh deci? Why not wrath?

[bronze glade]

shock and awe is your cleave talent

[lavish parrot]

Does deci increase dot damage?

[lucid raptor]

rashad kinda fucks on hive scum ngl

[bronze glade]

and then deci is both cleave and damage

[lucid raptor]

big attack speed bonuses

and weakspot dmg

and crit

[bronze glade]

hmm idr if deci is only melee strength

[glacial gyro]

rashad fucks in general

[dim moth]

nah deci strength isn't global

[lavish parrot]

Fuck

[barren pebble]

deci is power

[timid acorn]

sweep or stab shivs for adrenalin frenzy?

[low harbor]

no, it's Mstr

[wet heath]

Anything, none of blessings affect Chem Toxin, only intitial needle

[manic wolf]

Scummers out damaging flamestick Psykers

[dim moth]

prob stab shivs if it's an actual melee build

[lavish parrot]

Ok then I may be dumb because I ran both wrath and shawe

[manic wolf]

We is da best

[glacial gyro]

carapace/unyielding, then stuff for crit bceause crit increases dot stacks applied

[dim moth]

keep your outdated terminology out of this omnissiah sponsored chat

[bronze glade]

well then you have a LOT of cleave lol

[lavish parrot]

Welp time to swap wrath for deci

[barren pebble]

i remember it being a pain to keep up but i might be thinking about chained weakspots

[dim moth]

damage modifiers won't do anything unless you keep the gun in your hands while the DoT is active

[vale garden]

Slashing with hyper critical and points into chems, trust

[charred bronze]

what're the perks on rashad? flak/carapace?

[low harbor]

it is a pain to keep up

[lavish parrot]

Yeah I think it's good since I am kinda poison maxxing?
I was told saw needs a lot of cleave

[low harbor]

dats why it's mid

[torpid cloud]

I'm toying with the idea of adjusting my ranged build from vulture to dependency
Make up for the damage loss with my chems

[dim moth]

not hyper critical because I don't like dying, but this is infact exactly my build

[barren pebble]

i like refined lethality because it makes most enemies a casual 2 shot

if you're not toxining them down

[lucid raptor]

i'm running unyielding and +2 stamina currently but i dont have a +3 stamina curio yet

[rough peak]

Trying to kill damnation enemies with these 200 rated shivs sure is something... especially since I only have 7 talent points... I'm definitely switching back to the mk1, tho, before I keep leveling up...

[dim moth]

I am never ever relying on my knives for carapace damage outside of using the special to assist in stacking toxin

[glacial gyro]

Right, and nothing else does anything except maybe crit chance. Bonus damage on the first tick is better than sorry nothing

[lucid raptor]

for the attack speed

but 4% attack speed is poop so idk

[ripe seal]

i feel like outside limbsplitter, none of the blessing options for the bonesaw seem that bad to run

[barren pebble]

i get shock and awe though its about the same number of extra hits but up in one kill instead of 5 attacks

[manic wolf]

Crit chance + stam probs best value

[barren pebble]

limbsplitter is such a joke blessing lmao

[timid acorn]

whats better for shives, precognition or riposte?

[barren pebble]

on every single weapon

[glacial gyro]

Stam also only active while its in your hand

[wet heath]

Precog

[lucid raptor]

precog for life

[glad latch]

Could be good if the cooldown was shorter.

[ripe seal]

doesn't shock and awe only make a difference for mixed hordes? still seems like a nice go to choice thou

[timid acorn]

is it cause more damage is just guarenteed?

[umbral dagger]

How much mobility do you need to gain the last dodge? 80% ? on the crowbar

[dim moth]

50

[glacial gyro]

60

[barren pebble]

even then it would be really awkward to use effectively

[drifting heron]

Which needler mark has better singletarget

[umbral dagger]

i got 60 but it stayed at 4

[dim moth]

identical

[glacial gyro]

Well, yeah, 50

[languid sandal]

VI

[rough peak]

I looked at the base stats for the hive scum class... they really love giving these new classes a 0.5s stamina regen delay... only this one they also gave 2x stamina regen as well :\

[timid acorn]

what refinements should i put on shiv? like flak and unyielding?

[bronze glade]

i think explode needler has better crit/weakspot stacking

[wet heath]

Mark only affects alt fire pretty much

[glacial gyro]

nothing can go over 80 and for some inexplicable reason the inspect shows stats at 100

[manic wolf]

Sure, but its free stam when it is in your hand, not like anything else does owt

[dim moth]

bro they have 75 base toughness and only 2 toughness nodes on the tree one of which is optional they need it

[umbral dagger]

yeah i know but you cant get the 5th dodge at 80%?

[rough peak]

Fair, I just find it funny

[dim moth]

nope

[umbral dagger]

Aaah oki tyvm

[drifting heron]

Then which one has the propagation on special instead of stagger

[barren pebble]

good ol fake stats

[dim moth]

Mk II

[glacial gyro]

negative

[barren pebble]

presumably they had plans to add red weapons with stats up to 100 or something like that at one point

[drifting heron]

Thank

[dim moth]

who the hell knows man

[restive raptor]

hello

[dim moth]

fatshark is an enigma

[languid sandal]

I wish they did lol

[ripe seal]

60 power is alot but I feel like not enough weapons have enough potential in a single swing to invest in that over something smaller but way more uptime like headtaker

[glad latch]

Yeah, I suppose. Maybe 2s cooldown and also have it give 100% strength.

[lucid raptor]

this shit is the worst

[manic wolf]

Just a thought... Decapitator might be a very strong blessing with Hyperviolence now being a thing

[glacial gyro]

they are using item stats to drive home that we are shitlord nobodies and equipment we consider god tier is basically junk as far as the Imperium is concerned

[lucid raptor]

[barren pebble]

im assuming whatever the plan was that resulted in the 80 maxes has been abandoned but they dont want to change the weapon code at all lol

[dim moth]

the inferno psyker touching every enemy in the horde removing your blessing's damage boost for the entire mission

[sinful matrix]

Is that the one that's power on chained attacks?

[dim moth]

well stat changes would also massively fuck the already tenuous weapon balance

[glacial gyro]

I mean there are mods that do it so its not that complex

[manic wolf]

Ahh is it one of those thats cucked by DoTs? Laaame

[glacial gyro]

it has to be deliberate

[languid sandal]

I remember the good old days when you had to roll for the blessings too and there was no way to change them lol

[sinful matrix]

I remember when we could only change one perk

[wet heath]

Idk hive scum feels underdeveloped. His chem tree doesn't even work, you don't get stimm addict stack with box

[ripe seal]

decap is finesse bonus on 1 shots

[barren pebble]

you'd just make 80% 100% and not change any of the actual numbers lmao

[ripe seal]

up to like 25% that stacks up to 5 times

[dim moth]

I think some of the playtesters have said that too

[barren pebble]

multiply the display %s by 1.25

[dim moth]

Likely wanted SCUM to be a december release for crimbo money

[low harbor]

decapitator is gonna stay bad until full rework

[lucid raptor]

most weps feel shit into armor thats about my only complaint

[clear steppe]

“Oh man. I don’t like these shivs starting out… they must not be very good…”

Me returning to them at level 29: “Holy fuck…”

[small grail]

I think i just had the dumbest team imaginable

[manic wolf]

Sadge, I wasnt aware it had issues with DoTs, but makes sense that it does

[sinful matrix]

I remember when it was huge news that we could change either both perks, both blessings, or one perk and one blessing in an update

[dim moth]

THE god weapon

[low harbor]

it's not issue with dot

[barren pebble]

the way the game defines one shot makes decapitator trash

[low harbor]

it's issue with literally any & all dmg

[languid sandal]

The old endgame was grinding currency for RNG weapons lol

[low harbor]

it should just be reworked to work like headtaker

[clear steppe]

I am become lawn mower. Cutter of grass

[small grail]

One of them fall off a ledge, okay, happens. Someone else, trying to get a shortcut down to them, jumps off the SAME ledge. Then someone else, does it AGAIN

[barren pebble]

kids these days dont know why we have this emote

[small grail]

3 people died doing the SAME thing

[wet heath]

Guess we have to wait for second release where they will completely rework like 2 out of 3 trees and reset our skills again

[charred bronze]

hm, rashad heavies are all vertical, lights are horizontal

[sinful matrix]

same with antax

[low harbor]

they 100% made bank off this update

[lucid raptor]

whats a guy gotta do to get a +3 stamina curio around here goddamn

[sinful matrix]

antax has the better special attack though

rashad gets finesse as a stat

[low harbor]

new cosmetic drop + that one-time bundle for 4k aquilas

[glacial gyro]

I love when everything releases in december at once because of crimbus.

[low harbor]

plus new class

[manic wolf]

Yeah, however it would be less of a problem without DoTs being at play, an tbh, given Hyperviolence is a thing it might carry it even if you miss the odd one shot you'd still be getting juiced damage a lot of the time. But yeah, Psykers exist and the warpfire stick isnt gonna get nerfed any time soon (even though it bloody well should)

[low harbor]

with good deluxe cosmetic

[barren pebble]

i dont think antax gets brumo which is the key for rashad being awesome

[sinful matrix]

Ashes of Creation coming to steam in a week and I can't wait

[barren pebble]

but yeah i was misremembering it being good for getting lots of heavy kills

[sinful matrix]

I already own Star Citizen so I'm aware of how beta titles like that play out

[low harbor]

decap is not enough extra finesse to make the weapon 1 tap important enemies like elites

[glacial gyro]

the deluxe cosmetic is shit

[low harbor]

they're off same weapon type, identical blessings

[dim moth]

I am also making bank this update (if dopamine was money)

[barren pebble]

oh i thought it was a tacaxe

[low harbor]

it's ok to be wrong in this chat

[charred bronze]

welp, I'll try the rashad in normal play cuz seems awesome, time to try a heavy sword instead

[sinful matrix]

The reason you take either Antax or Rashad is Special Attack vs Finesse

[dim moth]

I prefer the commodore's one myself

[wet heath]

Nah he's right

[sinful matrix]

I like the special attack more than finesse

[charred bronze]

I'm trying to find something to do the heavy attack while stimmed penance

crowbar wasn't it

[manic wolf]

On its own, no, but if you hit a trash enemy for like 5K damage on Rashad an that it keeps stacking if the damage keeps going up, it would translate to big Hyperviolence procs

[glacial gyro]

THIS IS WHAT WE COULD HAVE HAD, PEOPLE

[dim moth]

heavy sword prob

[barren pebble]

if you want to know why decapitator is bad download the healthbars mod for a game

[charred bronze]

(though I very much like the crowbar otherwise. Can opener is dope)

[low harbor]

the commodore's shop has 1 good cosmetic for hvs and it's the reaper mask

[dim moth]

Mk IX horde clears entirely with heavy attacks

[dim moth]

+deathblow

[long orbit]

That new class sucks HARD !

[dim moth]

edgelord

[charred bronze]

yar, that's next

[sinful matrix]

why can't my hive scum get those bras 😔

[manic wolf]

No, I understand why its bad, I'm just making a point. It would be less bad if DoTs werent a thing, because of Hyperviolence. But yes, if its cucked by any damage source, it is indeed bad

[elfin jay]

putting necromunda cosmetics in immediately would certainly be a choice

[barren pebble]

what do you mean "that new class" this is the hive scum channel

[low harbor]

the borderlands vibe is real

[glacial gyro]

A correct one

[elfin jay]

a choice

[dim moth]

also scum may actually get new entries in the commodore slop shop

so there's that to look forward to

James Workshop may be less of a BITCH about them

[low harbor]

that's like half the reason they made it lol

[ripe seal]

i hardly touched mortis trials at all, I wonder how the scum does in there

[low harbor]

cuz arb skins not getting approved

[manic wolf]

We can only hope, the premium cosmetics for it at the moment are bad

[charred bronze]

fuckin' JAMES

[barren pebble]

hive scum probably does great in mortis if you get crit or fire

[long orbit]

It means the Hive Scum class sucks HARD !

[wet heath]

Arbites be rotting in casket already with no supply whatsoever

[charred bronze]

I like some of the masks

[barren pebble]

or maybe weapon swap if you're desperadoing

[ripe seal]

i still want more drip for arbite

[sinful matrix]

I'm so out of touch

[charred bronze]

true, but they came out of the gate with fantastic cosmetics

[sinful matrix]

people be complaining about the cosmetics store

[barren pebble]

yeah i was saying you sounded like a dipshit who meant to send that in general lol

[ripe seal]

alot of the premium stuff in the shop for scum is pretty samey, same for the arbite

[sinful matrix]

When there's bigger issues like "please just sell everything at once instead of rotating it randomly"

[elfin jay]

https://tenor.com/view/martinsugar2k-intro-meme-youtube-youtuber-gif-2857798793750799519

[glacial gyro]

I can complain about the shop's structure AND its content at the same time

[ripe seal]

alot of the stuff the other classes get are recolors of stuff that's already been in the shop but at least it looks more different from the base game stuff

[near vapor]

it wont change but they did kinda improve the system

[elfin jay]

fomo shop is awesome i love fomo shop

[wet heath]

Ah yes when I'm watching black but my bitch wife wants to watch red

[near vapor]

they sell the premium in conjunction with slop...

[elfin jay]

slopmium

[wet heath]

https://tenor.com/view/when-i-want-to-watch-blue-blue-orange-shinji-asaka-gif-26940860

[elfin jay]

turn off the tv

your evil wife is powered by the sinister waves it receives

with no tv your evil wife becomes your normal wife

[glacial gyro]

maybe you were the evil one actually

[sinful matrix]

I'm incapable of being evil

I even give my subjects rights in CK3

and those are just pixel people

[elfin jay]

i can't have a wife or son that i hate because i have neither a wife nor a son

[wet heath]

She watches blue because she is corrupted by Tzeench

[barren pebble]

shinji watching LCL orange
foreshadowing...

[charred bronze]

perks/blessings for the h sword? I haven't used one of these mofos in years

and mk?

[elfin jay]

orange is the inverse of blue which is a very tzeentchian way to say blue

js

[glacial gyro]

get the fuck out of here kairos

[elfin jay]

💅 ✨

💨

[ripe seal]

the only head piece for the scum I like is the default goggles and maybe the revenant's mask, and all the preimum ones are close to the ones you can unlock

[wet heath]

I can't come up with a name for second build

[elfin jay]

waltuh

prison mike

[wet heath]

My first one is called "go go gadget daemonhost impregnator kneecap remover" but I can't make up something for hive scum

[near vapor]

peak cosmetic

a legendary harness...

[ripe seal]

rampage and deathblow were my go to blessings but I think bladed momentum might be a solid option

[barren pebble]

time to try and remember to use stim off cooldown

[glacial gyro]

the only premium cosmetic I like

but it can't compete with

[bronze glade]

HT and deatblow

mk IX is prob better

but mk VI is for chads

[charred bronze]

I like the scum look:

[ripe seal]

i never liked any of the mask cosmetics like that, like alot of the psyker ones

[near vapor]

all marks are viable

[wet heath]

I can't tolerate green hair because I can only see modern rappers

[lapis raft]

reaper mask is pretty nice

[near vapor]

its moveset preference yada yada

[bronze glade]

IX is just better tbh

but it's boring

[elfin jay]

psyker slopmasks have a Certain Look to them

[near vapor]

yea but mark 7 tho..

[glacial gyro]

FELLOW TRAIN ENJOYER DETECTED

[wet heath]

Train is peak

[near vapor]

you just hating a fella with style

[ripe seal]

yeah, the only difference on the marks for the heavy sword is how the heavies and I think some of the special hits work

[near vapor]

all the special works the same afaik

[bronze glade]

hate how you don't have immediate access to the overhead

it's honestly a legit issue

[ripe seal]

I think one of them has the first heavy be a strikedown but the next one after that keeps chaining vanguard ones until you stop

[bronze glade]

when you want to one shot mutants for example

[wet heath]

Sorry can't hear your sorry goldie ass from my monstrous train

[near vapor]

l1 > h2
push attack > h2

[charred bronze]

flak maniac? I'll be killing armor with the needler

[bronze glade]

yeah one extra steo

[near vapor]

honestly

[bronze glade]

yeah that's what i run

[ripe seal]

i think the specials are functionally the same but the swing is different, like the axes

[elfin jay]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/115f0154ce352bb10aa8511cd0be047b/tumblr_pgggv4DYUM1qg39ewo1_500.gif

[near vapor]

I just do special > H1 repeatedly

because it chains faster than looping H1 > H2

[zealous basin]

what blessings r good on double barrel?

[elfin jay]

third barrel

[zealous basin]

you mean both barrels?

[near vapor]

big talk for a fella who buy our drugs

[charred bronze]

I'm mostly looking for a mark with a brainless horizontal heavy attack chain so I can finish the penance. Gonna probably go back to crowbar or maybe rashad after

[bronze glade]

for HS that's mk ix

[brittle sierra]

Cleaver

[charred bronze]

flak/maniac?

as of old?

[near vapor]

funny how the gangers have this big ass fuck you All Seeing I symbol

just to deter anyone, especially the arbys from shooting them

[ripe seal]

9 i'm pretty sure is the one that's nothing for horizontal heavies once you get to the second in the chain, but you an just go into training and test them all out

[manic wolf]

I forgot how much fun Chainsword is.. gonna do Chainsword Rampage for melee I reckon

[charred bronze]

sure, I could figure it all out on my own eventually, just trying to benefit from the experience of folks that have tried it on scum. Something to babble about

[ripe seal]

i haven't tried it on scum at all but I knjow its a solid weapon from my time using it on zealot back when it was class exclusive, and I have trouble telling the marks apart on some weapons, I mostly base it on the base model of the weapon but the heavy sword is one I can't tell the difference of since the different is very minute

[limber cradle]

Ik vraks is "better" than macs but

Goddamn it doesn't feel as good

[near vapor]

the moveset

[limber cradle]

Also, Scum should've had a talent to sprint in every direction

[torpid cloud]

dependency gun scum with the rending stim allows me to kill a crusher in one mag dump

thats

neat

[last marsh]

am i correct in assuming that saws clear is just lmb spam

[ripe seal]

i know the omveset should be slightly different but I don't remember exactly off the top of my, just that one of them has the self chaining cleaving heavies that you have to get pass a strikedown to get

[last marsh]

with some shoving

[last marsh]

movement is back in darktide

[ripe seal]

I love omni direcitonal sprinting

[near vapor]

push attack > heavy > heavy

[ripe seal]

i tihnk light-heavy-light-heavy also works for the saw

[barren pebble]

yeah thats the horde combo i think

[last marsh]

thanks

[ripe seal]

fatshark pretty much tells you all the single and horde combos you need when they release a new weapon

[tulip magnet]

I need people to stop shooting the horde im already meleeing

[ripe seal]

its just that for some reason they only have it on the blog post version of the patch notes and not on the steam patch notes

[tulip magnet]

I'm sick of being launched backwards

[near vapor]

is it a diagonal heavy sweep

[drifting heron]

That would be horrific

[limber cradle]

For everyone else

[drifting heron]

Sprint kiting while fighting back

[barren pebble]

get ogryn back up in mortis 3 times
go down myself
he doesnt pick me up
goes to his camera he apparently doesnt know you can do anything but light attack
not even a free weekend player they had 80 levels on ogryn

where do these people come from

[fair oar]

i rep water cartel because that's the gear they gave me

[tulip magnet]

Trying to farm heavy melee kills on stimms and some triggerhappy bastard keeps launching my ass 50 feet backwards by shooting the explosive horde im killing

[novel quest]

DSP was in ya lobby

[barren pebble]

this game feels like a solo game every time theres a big patch

[alpine hazel]

im testing crowbar horde clear times and the heavy combo is geuinely ass

like way worse than just light spam

[bronze glade]

wat really?

[charred bronze]

yeah, light spam, blunt end is the way

esp with adrenaline going

[tulip magnet]

it's too slow, light spam does the same with less opportunity for the mobs to hit you

[bronze glade]

dafuq need to test

[zenith fern]

Must be their new born brother playing or some shit

[charred bronze]

poor cleave too, i find, though I haven't tested it

[barren pebble]

once he started getting swamped he pulled out a rumbler and then didnt fire it and died

genius

[alpine hazel]

im getting mixed results but unless they're really clumped up the heavy combo is bad

[tulip magnet]

that's why the heavy melee penance sucks, all the new weapons are better off spamming light

[zenith fern]

Lmao

[alpine hazel]

2 ragers by default on heavy

[charred bronze]

hence why I'm here begging for advice lol

[alpine hazel]

on heavy

[barren pebble]

also blinder regen might be broken in mortis?

[barren pebble]

i just tried one but i dont think i got any regen

[tulip magnet]

im just spamming shiv heavies since I got to 500 with crowbar and saw 🤷‍♂️

[barren pebble]

might be chem toxin betraying me tho

[frigid basalt]

The blinder Regen feels kinda broken overall

[ripe seal]

I feel like I should be regenning stun nades more than I am

[brittle sierra]

Speaking of Mortis are there any special cards for Scum?

[brittle sierra]

It has one weakness

Toxic dots don't count 😞

[barren pebble]

yeah its only 20 close range kills which is like one pack of infected

[frigid basalt]

I wish the stims could be used alongside regular stims

[barren pebble]

i wish we could at least use healing stims off the floor

[frigid basalt]

Not being able to use healing stims is a big downside

[timid acorn]

whats the best blessings for shredder auto?

[tulip magnet]

if they're dying to toxin it may not trigger

[brittle sierra]

The best blessing is Vraks 5

[frigid basalt]

I wish they changed it so picking up a stim added that stims effect to your scum stim

[wet heath]

Yeah that's right krakka craft me my shit. Judgemental fraggin' goldie scum. Make me my damn stimm. I've got an important meeting with rotters (bloodbath) laters so i'm gonna need it. Oops! Took you longer than five minutes. No tip. Fraggin ass

[lilac crystal]

dual autopistols feel super mid

[timid acorn]

you cant get that on scum

so i would like help with blessings

[frigid basalt]

What blessings and perks are you running

[brittle sierra]

Yes you can

[bronze glade]

they're not bad, but really emant for desperado

[placid drum]

That is the biggest trade off for using cartel stims which I don't mind

[frigid basalt]

Yeah, if you're not running desperado don't run autopistols

[tulip magnet]

desperado autopistols is money

[frigid basalt]

Just use the needler

[timid acorn]

is the auto pistol just not good?

[frigid basalt]

It's very good

[timid acorn]

sorry the shredder

not dual

[bronze glade]

good

[sinful matrix]

what blessings are we using on shivs

[frigid basalt]

Shredder is also good

[timid acorn]

what blessings are good?

[bronze glade]

not the best gun ever, but good overall

[bronze glade]

blaze/pinning

[sinful matrix]

blaze away/pinning fire

[frigid basalt]

That

[sinful matrix]

inspiring barrage/pinning fire

[frigid basalt]

Just damage stack

[sinful matrix]

take your pick

[plucky nymph]

i just got instakilled with my bootleg medkit in havoc 40 from twin's chem bombs

[barren pebble]

i think not being able to carry them is fair but not being able to use ones on the floor just means you need to get a party member to use it on you then pick their stim back up which seems like bad design

[plucky nymph]

i thought it gave immunity? am i regarded?

[ripe seal]

I feel like you build your shiv entirely how you would build a knife, I can’t tell any difference between them outside the special

[rough peak]

Yeah, blaze away + pinning on hive scum probably. Inspiring barrage is more of a zealot thing imo, if you're extra paranoid >.>

[timid acorn]

thank you, i just wanted a good auto gun but dont like the dual autos much cause they feel awful to use

[placid drum]

I run either riposte and uncanny or switch out uncanny for flesh tearer

[wet heath]

Try this: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a08724a2-6e32-4aa1-b33d-b46326ed96f6/go-go-gadget-white-stuff-applier

[tulip magnet]

It's not good but run 'n' gun and speedload are super fun

[barren pebble]

dual autopistols speedloader desperado is pretty good imo

[tulip magnet]

lets you just sprint at hordes and minimize time not shooting

[timid acorn]

would powderburn be better than pinning?

[bronze glade]

nah

pinning damage boost is massive

[timid acorn]

theyre good they just feel bad to me

[obsidian crown]

You’re not even running the holy trinity. What?

[bronze glade]

and powder only works on enemies that can be suppressed

[faint fossil]

what is this movement tech

[bronze glade]

which is... prob less than half the enemies in the game lol

[wet heath]

The what?

[obsidian crown]

The 3 most important perks for a HS

[acoustic quail]

when do we get this weapon fatshark

[wet heath]

Which are..?

[bronze glade]

prob this

[obsidian crown]

#hivescum-class message

[barren pebble]

i like blaze away over pinning fire for dual auto desperado just because i am draining the magazine over and over

[versed spruce]

Hello Tetoid

[wet heath]

Because I have Vulture's Dodge

[versed spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-jamie-paige-birdbrain-teto-dance-gif-5360684036479908174

[barren pebble]

in essentially every other context pinning is superior

[brittle sierra]

You said shredder

Are you talking about the dual auto pistols?

[bronze glade]

tbf i don't think you need all three nodes, but having at least tis but a scratch is huge

[obsidian crown]

Not taking burst of energy is super cringe

[charred bronze]

blaze away feels default on the autos. Some room for preference on the other blessing though

[obsidian crown]

On desperado

[placid drum]

I slap on both of those for max dps on mine

[timid acorn]

no, the Shredder Autopistol, it is the single auto pistol

[barren pebble]

speedloader is super important for keeping desperado going longer

[brittle sierra]

yeah it's pretty bad in comparison to the other options

[drifting heron]

Shredder is good

[wet heath]

What for? My toughness is not being broken because of Vulture's dodge

[drifting heron]

On zealot

[timid acorn]

do you need speedloader for shredder?

[barren pebble]

no i think shredder reloads pretty fast

[obsidian crown]

You will have moments where it is broken and you’ll want it. Are you playing malice or something.

[barren pebble]

base reload on dual autos is real slow

[placid drum]

I used to use speedloader myself but later dropped it due to not being able to see a big difference in reload speed to me

[barren pebble]

its twice as fast...

[small grail]

They should really buff the rocket launcher

Kinda just a worse krak i think

[wet heath]

I just finished few games on H30 and I had no troubles

[rough peak]

Didn't have any curio options once I hit 8, so I gambled on a random melk curio... got a wound curio, guess this next run will be with +1 wound... :\

[obsidian crown]

Sure

[frigid basalt]

I think they should change it to be two different launchers