hivescum-class

[lusty egret]

but it looks just as fast to do heavy one and light spam

[spice cloud]

I prefer the stub pistols

[random shuttle]

Great to know proper time before Scumming

[spice cloud]

Slower more dmg more accurate

[turbid fulcrum]

np, there is also https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/654

[rigid summit]

yeah i really cant wait to unlock them

they look awesome

[small grail]

I think i'm missing some rending or something then

[spice cloud]

They are so sexy

Btw what dies the special on the stub pistols do besides look cool?

[rigid summit]

i hope one day we get twin plasma pistol

i can hope

[shy scroll]

i just got the needle gun it feels so good ngl

[fleet lantern]

Gives you pinpoint accuracy.

[spice cloud]

Ahhhh

[turbid fulcrum]

I cannot wait for thr guarantee special and ability activation mods to be updated. They're essential imo

[autumn raptor]

It'd be great if we could have inferno weapons on ganger

[turbid fulcrum]

The corwbar is a case of a weapon that eats inuts like almost no other.

[autumn raptor]

necromunda gangs uses so much weird shit tho, hehe

[spice cloud]

I think they are?

Im using em after all

[turbid fulcrum]

only the weapon swap one

[autumn raptor]

Pretty much required

[spice cloud]

I only use the special activation thingy

[autumn raptor]

it was always required

[young forum]

what does that mean?

[spice cloud]

For zealot usually

[dim moth]

accuracy and increased finesse (crit/headshot damage)

[young forum]

can you link

[dim moth]

they already did

[lusty egret]

i mean, maybe it's because i have sweet spot (25% more damage to weakspots) + decimator and shred, try them out, maybe that's the trick

[maiden bramble]

I do hope hive scum gets more weapons down the line at least. Not too much reason to use a lot of the universal equipment.

[stoic halo]

keystones are the purple nodes just a heads up. jittery and nimble are nuts, and while the others are middling they are fine, slippery customer can help with rager blobs and stamina on dodge works with the dodge angle increase to keep your stam full meaning you can kite gunfire. plus they are travel nodes. they're not supposed to be stupid strong. Each acts as a precursor to nodes later down the line and you only need to spend 2 points to get to the auras.

[dim moth]

okay imagine for a second you're using Hyper Violence the talent that gives you 25% of your overkill damage as damage for 1 second

[spice cloud]

We got more then arbys did

6 weapons is pretty dope tbh

[dim moth]

Now think about how the Combat Axe and Heavy Sword regularly one shot several enemies per swing with brutal momentum

[spice cloud]

Especially for obese fish

[maiden bramble]

Oh, absolutely. I just wanna see more content for all the classes down the line.

Exclusive stuff for each.

[turbid fulcrum]

FS animations are wonky in that sometimes weapon swaps, specials or ability activation are not prioritized. Ever felt like the game was eating your inputs? That might be why. The mods make it so that if you press the button the thing actually works.

[young forum]

I feel that with shotgun reloading

[spice cloud]

Yeah

[young forum]

also what are the best perks for needle gun for havoc?

[spice cloud]

New weapons are pretty much the single reason to play the game for me

[small grail]

I think i'll pick up the weakspot hit node and maybe that'll work

[dim moth]

strikedown heavy doing almost 4K damage

[last roost]

is it normal my character throws all there blackout grenades?

[dim moth]

okay purple saw didn't know you were built like that

[kind zodiac]

hey try the stimm supply next matie with the healing stimm please

[dim moth]

bug with old version of guarantee weapon swap

[novel oracle]

i dont have that one

[dim moth]

have to get the updated version

[last roost]

oh thanks

[small grail]

Well then idk how you're doing that because thats not what my saw looks like

[stoic halo]

wym?

[novel oracle]

it works how you would think
people can walk in and get the effect of a med stim one time

[young forum]

also what's better between shivs and combat knife?

[novel oracle]

i sent the saw and skill tree

[dim moth]

shivs

[last roost]

the boom bringer looks so fun but having the ability to generate grenades seems amazing

[last roost]

nun nvm

[dim moth]

actual cleave and you still have strikedown heavies

[kind zodiac]

its not a continuous heal?

[dim moth]

don't need uncanny for good carapace dps because of throwing knives

[random shuttle]

Boom Bringer is awesome and can make a great moment

[fast gust]

Buff stim supply!

[young forum]

well the toxin nades are as close to a warframe electric influence nuke you can get in this game

[dim moth]

boom bringer is a krak grenade with a real AoE

[novel oracle]

no
it gives the effect of a med stim

thats what a med stim does

[random shuttle]

but strictly playwise, Blinders/Chems are so much better

[kind zodiac]

bugger

[dim moth]

buh event?

[young forum]

they will surely be nerfed

[stoic halo]

are you swapping to the brittlness mode by using weapon special action?

[novel oracle]

actually im wrong this build is a little different
it gets crits more but has less melee damage

[last roost]

also whats better shivs mk3 or mk1? whats the differences?

[young forum]

I dont see a reason to use any other blitzs atm

[dim moth]

blackout stagger can save your life

[novel oracle]

but i wouldnt recommend this build over the one i sent

[kind zodiac]

maybe stimm supply isnt the way to go

[dim moth]

rocket does need a buff tho

[small grail]

What does enemy hit mass do. Is like better for hordes?

[random shuttle]

Blinders are the best when it comes to pure utility, by far

[dim moth]

stagger is a rare luxury on this class

and blackouts are basically the only source they have for it

[random shuttle]

you have endless stream of them and they can save everyones bacon many times

[solemn thorn]

Is cartel special the stims? Or a passive

[rigid summit]

anti arbites

[young forum]

yes but chem toxin into crusher horde

already hard to deal with carapace on this class

[calm aurora]

The stimms

[fast gust]

Nerf chem toxin
Nerf Ds
Nerf Plasma

[stoic halo]

cartel special is your personal stim

[novel oracle]

if an attack has 5 cleave, thats how much hitmass you can cleave through until it stops
if you swing through poxwalkers who have a hitmass of 1.5, you can hit 1 (attack has 3.5 cleave remaining on the swing), 2 (2 remaining), 3, (0.5 remaining), 4 (less than 0 remaining, hit stops)

reducing hitmass is reducing the cost of those enemies

[drowsy relic]

Needs a way to recover rockets

Maybe once every 30 ranged kills

[novel oracle]

so like your cleave is your budget, and the hitmass is the cost

increasing your budget and decreasing the cost both result in you getting more

doing both at the same time gets you WAY more

which is why you take some cleave in the tree too

[stoic halo]

it's hard to maintain ground against carapace on this class, not to kill it.

[novel oracle]

and power is multiplicitive with cleave so its EVEN MORE

this is with no cleave/hitmass/power

[fast gust]

No.

[novel oracle]

this is with the build i linked

[calm aurora]

Cole, with a taxe would you invest in some toxins nodes on the right or just go all in with the dmg node on the left? (Wp dmg, dmg on dodge...)

[novel oracle]

(75 power and 50% cleave isnt even being used during this)

[novel oracle]

i take toxin on crit and toxin base damage but thats ab it

[stoic halo]

it's already a ranged thunder hammer. what more do you want?

[kind zodiac]

what is that on the bone saw?

that acid looking thing

[novel oracle]

what is what

[tribal bane]

CHEM TOX

[novel oracle]

the skin?

deluxe edition skin

[limber cradle]

Its just like that, the green.

[tribal bane]

saw comes with it

[limber cradle]

Its chem toxic or brittleness when purple

[drowsy relic]

A reason to take it over toxic tin of beans tbh

It's fine and it's funny but I feel its 2 shots keep it lacking

Maybe I'll get more used to it

[kind zodiac]

ahhh i see good to know thought you had to use the chem nade for it lol

[limber cradle]

Im ngl I cannot stand the rocket launcher but I'm glad a lot of people like it

[kind zodiac]

whats so bad about it

[limber cradle]

Don't like swapping to it+drastically prefer the utility blinders have

[stoic halo]

A is clearly overtuned and will probably be nerfed so lets make thing B equal in power to thing A. also you can get 3 rockets

[kind zodiac]

thats fair

[maiden bramble]

Personally, the only buff I think it needs is having a lot of the range buffs apply to the splash damage on rockets too. It's really only effective for heavy damage on direct shots.

[lusty egret]

cole, what do you think of this? anyway i could improve it?

[tribal bane]

I mean, the saw, needler, and shivs are the only weapons that can deliver chem tox without the aid of any perks or blessings

[kind zodiac]

"toxic tin of beans" now that is funny

[zenith fern]

Anyone hungry for free aquilas? Event is up

[lusty egret]

im running it with these weapons

[small grail]

Does the 15 dodge angle talent do anything?

[toxic dagger]

I AIN'T AFRAID OF YA

[solemn thorn]

Whats the different between the 2 needle pistol marks?

[dim moth]

different alt fires

one causes a staggering explosion, the other spreads toxin

[last roost]

whats the difference between the 2 different shivs

[toxic dagger]

@novel oracle look are you proud of me, im scumming

[dim moth]

horde clear heavies v strikedown heavies

[near haven]

Please tell me placing stimm supply not proccing chem dependency is a bug they are gonna fix

[calm aurora]

oO

[zenith fern]

movesets and some stats

I think the heavies on other mark is sweeps

[drowsy relic]

One of them is good and one of them is bad

[novel oracle]

threat reduction is actively harmful cuz it just make shit your fighting fucking leave, i take the ranged dodge just to avoid it
float like a butterfly is 20(!)% crit for nearly free so thats hard to pass up
i personally dont think weakspot, toxin damage reduction, or toxin toughness is worth it
i always like the kill node for adrenaline cuz it feels the most consistent regardless of weapon, with elites its up almost instantly
for a lot of weapons hyper violence is a no brainer, speaking of, i dont know what weapon this is even for, cuz like if its saw you NEED some cleave in there, if its shivs then hyper violence is 100% a must pick, and the ranged toughness right above adrenaline is also huge imo

[stoic halo]

you can run at gunners in a more steep angle, so you can push them faster.

[young herald]

god i hate bursters. I went to attack a bomber and a burster that sounded like it was 20+m away leapt around the corner, through the bomber's chest and headbutted my shivs

[novel oracle]

you be scumming? you be scumming all night huh

https://tenor.com/view/i-be-profen-ibuprofen-gif-6560266553822228043

[toxic dagger]

bursters are straight up misbehaving

[novel oracle]

this is a gamewide thing

i have so many clips of this patch where they are just fucking

miserabl

[toxic dagger]

yeah they're the worst

[young herald]

it's fucking awful

[kind zodiac]

pretty sure you missed there chief

[toxic dagger]

did they get changed??

[young herald]

something changed about em

[limber cradle]

The panic shoves lmao

[young herald]

i'm not sure what, but they're so much more oppressive than they were the day before the patch

[toxic dagger]

im practically touching him

[novel oracle]

im 100% sure something is different
the audio is fucked
pushing is fucked
sometimes they blow up early
sometimes they jump super far away out of push range

[covert lagoon]

maybe shivs have worse push angle

[near haven]

Do adrenaline assassin and adrenaline smiter cancel each other out?

[covert lagoon]

but then again

[toxic dagger]

nah they have the same pushes.

bursters are the problem

[maiden bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/the-force-cat-kitten-gif-14566891

missed

[kind zodiac]

watching the video you're dodge was abit to early there chief

[novel oracle]

@toxic dagger tell me you hear this burster

[lusty egret]

better?

[visual moon]

Is anyone else having issues firing the boom bringer?

[novel oracle]

what weapon is this for

[toxic dagger]

only when its on top of you

[young forum]

dual stubs or needle for special sniping in a melee build?

[grand jewel]

🫦

[novel oracle]

which is how it is for 90% of bursters this patch

[lusty egret]

@novel oracle

[iron patrol]

needle 10x better

[stoic halo]

they are so fucky rn. Had one stutter step me. ran up, stopped, took like 2 steps forward, stopped then jumped at me. truly spooky.

[novel oracle]

singlehandedly the #1 thing thats dealt damage/killed me this patch

[toxic dagger]

yeah you shouldve been hearing it much earlier

[kind zodiac]

off to horny jail with you

ok weirdos using that reaction

[fast gust]

I can't save teamates bursters keep ghosting me and leaving my pushes on read.

[blissful notch]

needle. Needle is great on melee builds, dosent require much investment

[vast yoke]

bistol when in doubt too lol

[novel oracle]

thatll be fine as long as you replace one of those two blessing with shock and awe tbh
and me personally, i dont take hyper violence on saw in favor of more cleave, saw is a little too slow for it tbh

[limber cradle]

Needle felt like a great compliment to melee builds tbh

[fast gust]

Fully silent till you round the corner

[toxic dagger]

this is so cursed

[iron patrol]

fuck poxbursters, hounds are the real bastard, they stopped snarling

[vast yoke]

it's good but sometimes it's inconsistent I won't lie

[toxic dagger]

@novel oracle share these clips youknowwhere

[blissful notch]

saw feels crappy compared to rashad

[fast gust]

Make your scummer small, you can duck hounds

[toxic dagger]

we need to pester rizzler about this

[robust sable]

Still getting used to the dodge distance on this class and so, with this in mind, I accidentally slid right into a Crusher overhead since I forgot that my slide would bring me halfway across the continent.

Am I washed?

[vast yoke]

no way this is true lmao

[robust sable]

[novel oracle]

this ones just evil

[lusty egret]

should i replace shred or decimator in your opinion?

[vast yoke]

hopefully! hygiene is important

[toxic dagger]

dont worry I literally threw a 3veggie maelstrom at the end by ledging myself with my gigantic dodge

you uh

slowly get used to it

[neon fern]

get immune to melee attacks while sliding and it will never happen again

[fast gust]

Try it, you can both duck snipers and dogs depending on arc and angle
Just don't do it too early or they'll re-adjust

I'm mid sized not even small, my short psyker just can't be hit behind cover ever

[novel oracle]

you also cant hear the burster not coming from the stairs until its right next to me too

[drowsy relic]

So guys the most trusted source for game information, the darktide subreddit, told me this class is terrible and top 6 guys is this true?

[robust sable]

I got smacked at the tail end

I have it on

[grand jewel]

🫦

[robust sable]

It didn't help

[neon fern]

unlucky

[covert obsidian]

Man I am so bad.

[novel oracle]

im taking nimble off of more and more builds

[neon fern]

i've been abusing the slide immunity with desperado a lot

[limber cradle]

Unsure what you mean tbh

[zealous basin]

do i dump defenses or mob for crowbar

[novel oracle]

defences

[grand jewel]

damage

[zealous basin]

ty

[rigid summit]

wtf is this

[toxic dagger]

pictured: me, losing us the mission. this happened right after that nonpush on the burster as well

[stoic halo]

"damage is a dump stat" - the unspeakable one

[young herald]

that's not how that works; that talent still lets you get exploded by sliding into overheads. Slippery Customer is just "you're considered dodging while sliding", so melee attacks won't track you and all that shit

[novel oracle]

oh thats new

[lusty egret]

new event

[rigid summit]

free premium currency?

wild

[toxic dagger]

event

[grand jewel]

it is

[novel oracle]

OH IT STARTED

[toxic dagger]

@robust sable xDDD

[dull dagger]

It's terrible for absolute garbage players. Fun for regular people

[lusty egret]

should i dump shred or decimator to slot shock and awe in?

[neon fern]

so

[novel oracle]

i think they get enough crit chance, and power also is multiplicitive with cleave so i keep decimator

[neon fern]

when will fs stops lying in the tooltips

[drifting narwhal]

true

[young herald]

https://tenor.com/bzvtg.gif

[fast gust]

Dog push go brrr

[alpine hazel]

am i stupid or does +5s stimm duration make Dependency harder to stack

[novel oracle]

dopemangus event
i hope you enjoy fighting rodin and a captain and a mixed horde with ragers
or 2 chaos spawns and a horde mixed with like 10 poxbursters

[lusty egret]

would that be enough cleave? or should i take Battering Strikes too? is there a "too much cleave"?

[alpine hazel]

since it doesn't start the cd until buff expires

[tepid cosmos]

not lying just swedish :3

[neon fern]

still a p good talent but it's stated clearly

melee attack immunity

[lusty egret]

like, i love playing h40, so im thinking towards that end mostly

[novel oracle]

it does cuz it extends the stim duration
stims dont regen during its active effect

[zealous basin]

where do u see the event

[stoic halo]

it does mean you have to have a shorter stim regen because your stim won't start regening till it's effects end.

[lusty egret]

melk

[neon fern]

nah it's malicious atp

[toxic dagger]

oh maybe it was the dog push???

[neon fern]

evil wizards in their towers

[toxic dagger]

fuck that makes me even more mad

[novel oracle]

i hope this is the right one
it take battering strikes and this is what it looks like on auric hitmass with all your stuff active during rampage

[zealous basin]

its grayed out for me do i need to relaunch?

[limber cradle]

One day we'll see fatshark hiring for an actual translator

[toxic dagger]

cole for the love of god can you compress your clips

[novel oracle]

nuh uh

[limber cradle]

Im ngl I like the pipe skin for shivs

[toxic dagger]

the bonesaw one wont even load

and i have 1gb fiber internet

[gusty vector]

Hive Scum is the worst class in the game, plz use your tester status to give it three million toughness regen/TDR talents for standing still 🙏

[lusty egret]

so i guess there's never enough cleave

[neon fern]

loaded fine here

[grand jewel]

thats just discord

get trolled nerd

[fast gust]

Ye discord mobile has been pretty bad since last patch

[novel oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565672718293401653/1321147766805631129/cat_armor_wiki.gif

[grand jewel]

mine plays straight away

[fast gust]

My own gifs crash my discord

[grand jewel]

discord has forsaken you

[toxic dagger]

it finally worked

[limber cradle]

Mine also just played tbh

[grand jewel]

the fuck do you mean to be honest

[lusty egret]

looks better now i take it?

[toxic dagger]

@novel oracle what do you like about the saw?

why is it good

[neon fern]

unstoppable on the cbar is p good but superiority is up p much all the time on auric and above so i think i'll swap to that

[limber cradle]

Sometimes I like lying to people for fun

[neon fern]

it's coo ignoring cara tho

[stoic halo]

bro took a butter bath before he slid at you

[lusty egret]

oh, wait, i slotted in slippery customer instead of nimble

[limber cradle]

Im running this with APs and Shivs rn

[grand jewel]

this one is much better

[limber cradle]

Perfectly balanced

[craggy jewel]

Oh nah the things I would say if this happened to me

[novel oracle]

its an ensured toxin dot on hit and you can build into it having really high cleave
it also has EXTREMELY high single target damage when you crit when youre on the right coating for what your hitting, armor or flesh

like this is some juicy damage when i swap to purple so i match the coating for the enemy

[idle lava]

Just to clarify, flesh is anything manic-infested right?

[novel oracle]

yeah p much

[toxic dagger]

inf/una/man

unyielding? or does that count as armor lol

[iron patrol]

does glory hunter on needle pistol proc if i swap off afterwards back to melee?

[idle lava]

I like the saws H1 attack
Feels good

[novel oracle]

it does better damage on toxin mode to unyielding than grape flavor

[toxic dagger]

it only procs if you get a kill with ranged damage

the toxin doesnt count, which is dumb

needs fixing

[iron patrol]

oh thats so bullshit, lemme kill this crusher with the fucking 2 impact damage rq

[warped quiver]

how many stacks of toxin does the sawblade add per hit?

[iron patrol]

aight so run n gun stripped down

[novel oracle]

1 on hit, +1 on crit

[idle lava]

1 and +1 on Crit iirc

So if you have the talent you can get 3 on Crit.

[iron patrol]

3 on crit is pretty solid but you can bleed stuff faster with shivs

saw is good for support

[toxic dagger]

it is bullshit

[warped quiver]

so up to 3 with the tox on crit node

[toxic dagger]

there are quite a lot of nonfunctional synergies

[warped quiver]

decent

[neon fern]

good for ur own survivability too not just for support

[toxic dagger]

predictable outcome of making a class in 6 months if you ask me

i assume a lot will be patched

[novel oracle]

but bleed does significantly less damage than toxin, and has worse adms on top of thatt

[iron patrol]

needle crit is a +1 stack right?

[novel oracle]

on the mk2
its +2 on the mk6

[idle lava]

The node that refills toughness
Does it's cd start after the 6 seconds, or during.

[turbid fulcrum]

What the hell? Lol I've been running that blessing for 2 runs now. DIdn't even notice

[warped quiver]

I'm enjoying crowbar a lot though. these weapons do the same thing, good horde clear and can destroy carapace

[drowsy relic]

No wonder the subreddit thinks its bad then

[iron patrol]

which is why needle pistol applies 8 stacks on hit so we can just melt the stuff that doesnt bleed properly

[neon fern]

right away

p sure

[warped quiver]

just one does it with an alt mode charged heavy, the other spams chem stacks

[warped grove]

Its Psyker with Crack Zealot mobility

[novel oracle]

if youre running a melee build tho youre better off doing raw damage boosting blessings tho

[craggy jewel]

This apparently needed to be said

Reddit users suck at video games

I’m shocked

[novel oracle]

the bleed doesnt benefit from his stupidly OP damage boosts, but those do

[dreamy hound]

real and true

[toxic dagger]

shiv does a lot of damage to carapace if you stab the fuckers in the head, dont need to faff about with bleed

[craggy jewel]

Did you guys know the sky is blue?

[gusty vector]

Reginald made a video that was like 'hive scum is bad? watch this' and he shows off damage on bosses, which is good btw
Then half the comments are like um ur dumb cuz you used a stim and zealot can do it with thunder hammer and veteran can do it with kraks and arbites can...

[toxic dagger]

with rampage and such

[warped grove]

The humble finesse

[warped quiver]

it's crazy how negative reddit is about this class. all classes feel bad until you get some decent weapons and talents going

[grand jewel]

jfc

[craggy jewel]

The evil and devious resource management:

[dreamy hound]

whoah there hank

you're asking them to aim, that's scary

[toxic dagger]

if I can do it...

[iron patrol]

was mk6 the one that had the shitty alternate fire

[toxic dagger]

no aim no brain ogryn main

[novel oracle]

yes

[toxic dagger]

then so can they!

[craggy jewel]

“Close enough”

[uncut sphinx]

that's gamers in general, there is zero forward thinking, if something isn't instant gratification it's dogshit burning garbage

[toxic dagger]

well that's loud gamers on reddit

[iron patrol]

peak thanks, +2 on crit is more important, i never use it for horde clear anyways

[toxic dagger]

there are a lot of normal gamers who just play and are capable of understanding delayed gratification but you dont hear from them lol

[novel oracle]

its also +2/1 on weakspot too

[warped quiver]

a complete lack of self awareness and accountability as well

[craggy jewel]

You know for all of Tanner’s failings he said something in his Arbites meta video along the lines of “95% of people suck ass at fps games, a WEEK of aim training would make you top frag in most fps games because of how bad the average player is”

And say what you want but HOLY Truth Nuke

[zenith fern]

Love these funny sharp tubes

[uncut sphinx]

that's a given

[dreamy hound]

its not insanely op like arb was so they can't clear a match with it

a tale as old as time

[hot moth]

what's the mk6's alt fire

[craggy jewel]

Although Tanner said Arbites Speaker was bad so

Broken clock

[hot moth]

versus the mk2 needle

[craggy jewel]

[zenith fern]

And he probably stole that sentence from someone else

[craggy jewel]

Also probably true

[vast leaf]

they explode if the dot kills them

[craggy jewel]

Idk I don’t have nearly as much hatred for him as most of the community does

He’s abrasive and a sweaty min maxer

But he is very good at the game

[iron patrol]

mk2 spreads tox, mk6 just makes them shart detonate

[craggy jewel]

At least he can back it up

That’s better then like most meta/pro YouTubers in gaming

[uncut sphinx]

abrasive is a bit of an understatement

[craggy jewel]

Well YEAH but I’m trying to keep it PG

Think of the children

That’s WILD

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-holding-laugh-covering-laugh-gif-10899551814881068905

[toxic dagger]

we dont have to throw pedo accusations around in here

[dreamy hound]

aight probably best we just stop talking about tanner here

[hot moth]

bruh

[robust sable]

[uncut sphinx]

fair enough

[craggy jewel]

Anyways fun ass class

[robust sable]

I had to solo clutch end event

so many Gunners...

so many Shotgunners...

[craggy jewel]

It’s a fast ass mid/close range class

[robust sable]

so many Crushers...

[craggy jewel]

As others have said

[toxic dagger]

build?

[vale garden]

Oh

[craggy jewel]

It’s the archetype we didn’t have

Oh how is the new mission?

Haven’t gotten it yet

[toxic dagger]

goated

[robust sable]

Lemme set it up on GL for you

[toxic dagger]

do the campaign

[vale garden]

Someone on reddit made an actually good point

[dim moth]

it's SO open

[craggy jewel]

Nice

[craggy jewel]

Me when I lie

[toxic dagger]

no no they exist

if you scroll down 2/3rd of the comments to the people with +12 upvotes you suddenly start finding reasonable takes

[zenith fern]

These people have no fashion of being a tox gunner smh

[vale garden]

Assuming it works, take stim crate, dont take custom stim, deploy stim crate with med stim, heal everyone

[toxic dagger]

yeah that does work but how many medstims are there really in a level lol

[drowsy relic]

"This class sucks"
"Are you level 30 using gold weapons with blessings and perks?"
"No I'm level 22 running damnation with white level 200 shivs"

[vale garden]

Aoe heal is still a pretty good use for an otherwise quite meh F ability

[fast gust]

Steam is worse

[drowsy relic]

Mfw different classes do different things differently

Whats fucjing next

[fast gust]

Steam really thinks the class is underpowered

[idle lava]

In my game before work I found 5
This was on..havoc though, assuming higher diffs effect what can be found.

[fast gust]

'Why would I pay 12 bucks for worse vet'

[toxic dagger]

poxgas modifier adds a lot of medstims though and the crate corruption cleanse makes you gas immune

so there's a usecase

[uncut sphinx]

the white 200 weapons is really the big thing there, the mastery upgrades so slowly compared to your class progression

[vale garden]

Yeh

[uneven jungle]

I'm loving the scumbag, hoping they don't buff the survivability

[limber cradle]

Just gotta let em be wrong tbh

[obsidian crown]

#hivescum-class message

my last game before I went to bed. Far from weak.

[limber cradle]

I'm gonna enjoy this op thing while it lasts

[fast gust]

We can hope Fatshark ignores them

[vale garden]

I think it could do with i little bit more passive gen imo

Tgen

[drifting narwhal]

ur defenition of OP is very interesting

[fast gust]

Go for dependency, it's pretty good for surviveability

Just don't combine it with stim dispenser

[limber cradle]

Okay grey name

[obsidian crown]

We found the redditor

[drifting narwhal]

idek what ur talkin abt

[drifting narwhal]

js makes me better

[fast gust]

For the horde.

[toxic dagger]

desperado uzi build feels pretty op when it outdamages the inferno psyker handily lolol

[craggy jewel]

Btw I still cannot believe I’m not dreaming

How is Hive Scum real

THIS SOON after Arbites

Well relatively soon

[toxic dagger]

i dont think the rest of the class feels op

[craggy jewel]

I did a double take when I saw the announcement on my PlayStation news feed

I genuinely said “what the fuck?”

Out loud

[fast gust]

Too soon for Fatshark

[toxic dagger]

i love this gun

[craggy jewel]

AND A MAP?!

[limber cradle]

Desperado uzi and adrenaline both feel absolutely nuts to me, stimm crate chem dependency side feels meh to me but that might be the bugs

[fast gust]

https://tenor.com/view/john-marston-rdr-rdr2-rdr1-gun-gif-7116805855926794029

[uncut sphinx]

the spin is so so stylish, i love it

[rustic lava]

I like it too but do wish we can get a heavy pen mark in the future

[craggy jewel]

Like look I won’t complain obviously

And it in retrospect would have been so awesome to have this release schedule at the release of the game but

I can admit they are really stepping on the gas

[toxic dagger]

yeah a 2nd mark with more of a revolver dmg profile and 10 rounds or smth would be sick

[craggy jewel]

Imagine if modern day Darktide barring the dlc classes was released today in the state it’s in

[dim moth]

I am playing stimm crate for full tox build

crate very good

7 stacks kill many thing

[craggy jewel]

Genuinely international sensation

[uncut sphinx]

people would still complain and whinge

[limber cradle]

I just don't like how crate feels to use tbh

[craggy jewel]

Yes but bro shit would genuinely be almost Warframe level

[toxic dagger]

the gameplay is too hardcore for it to ever be a really big sensation

[limber cradle]

I like desperado or rampage cause I can speed max

[craggy jewel]

I suppose

[toxic dagger]

like hd2 is about as complex as the masses can handle when it comes to a horde shooter

[craggy jewel]

But the fact all it’s miss steps it is still cooking player count wise

[toxic dagger]

this is so far beyond how involved left 4 dead was

[limber cradle]

This statement is making me froth at the mouth

[toxic dagger]

it'll always be niche

[uncut sphinx]

and they had a collective meltdown when the railgun was nerfed

[toxic dagger]

but it's doing well now

[limber cradle]

Send the masses to the GTFO mines

They'll come back scum mains

[craggy jewel]

I had to show a therapist on a doll where that game touched me

Genuinely had A nightmare about it

A game for sadists

[fast gust]

The casual gamer would rq GTFO so fast

[craggy jewel]

And I play Souls games for FUN

[limber cradle]

🙂

[vocal saffron]

Psychos

[vale garden]

Autocannon or get out my face mang

[fast gust]

The souls genre has been casualized, the last dark souls was Dark souls 2! 🧓

[craggy jewel]

GTFO is a psy op experiment

[limber cradle]

Agreed

[cobalt talon]

Its so peak

[vocal saffron]

Hate hellsloppers 2

[uncut sphinx]

sekiro was pretty hardcore tbh

[limber cradle]

Remember when hd2 was fun?

I do

[craggy jewel]

It just loses it’s charm once you realize how flawed the balance is

[fast gust]

Every time the devs release a new difficulty before they nerf it for the whiners

[vocal saffron]

AH dedicated on killing their game as of late

[robust sable]

I know it's probably better to go with a CDR Stimm, but I just enjoy having an "Oh shit, I want to up my damage NOW" option.
Also, I am incredibly bias towards some of the earlier Talents, which definitely shows here.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a082f49b-bf19-4ace-bcc9-64a55e0f1e61/averys-gun-build-i-dunno

Edit: Refresh the page; I accidentally put a Wound Curio on instead of Stamina.

[shy scroll]

okay i think im too stupid to understand this what do bonesaw being purple do?

what is the damn purple juice

[craggy jewel]

Brittle

[vale garden]

Brittleness

[craggy jewel]

A lot of it

[robust sable]

Oh shit I put a Wound Curio on there
That's meant to be Stamina

[craggy jewel]

And a unique form that can stack with others

[limber cradle]

Lmfao real, enjoy the new content pre nerf, leave when they nerf it

[shy scroll]

so it fucks tanks up?

[craggy jewel]

Yes very

Generally the poison form is better since that also nukes tanks

[vast yoke]

whats the best horde combo for bone saw? i can figure out a couple but i cant figure out which ones best

[craggy jewel]

But I wouldn’t ever tell you NOT to put it on monsters

[cobalt talon]

I remember Creek, but I also remember "we didn't change Coyote" and I also remember when hd2 didn't brick your PC. Those were good times.

[craggy jewel]

The melee options are ridiculous

For this class

Bro imagine if crowbars did that shit irl

Crack open tank armor like a tuna can

[neon fern]

inferno psyker getting outdmgd is p cool actually

deserved

[limber cradle]

Creek was good man, I got the game during the Creek cause the memetics got to me and I loved it. Watched the game get dumbed down over months. Can't enjoy it anymore.

[lusty egret]

@novel oracle i tried out the build and you are absolutely right, cleave feels amazing on the bonesaw

[craggy jewel]

Meth Addicts and a crowbar is apparently stronger then Space Marines

[vale garden]

Im glad I was right about the shivs. I said at like level 3 that they'll be good at high level, but dogshit now haha

[craggy jewel]

Who would have thought

[long dawn]

Does slippery customer work on crusher attacks?

[robust sable]

Yes

[main wagon]

I've had my game open for like 20 minutes

[limber cradle]

My methhead with shivs could 1v1 Mortarion

[toxic dagger]

thanks, interesting

[neon fern]

apparently it just makes melee attacks not track u

[main wagon]

Go to join my buddy

[neon fern]

u are not immune

[main wagon]

"Different game version lol"

[hallow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-show-swedish-chef-chicken-meat-cleaver-gif-24111041

[fast gust]

Don't forget the reveal the backtracking about the galactic war been 'different choices on a set up' vs 'a set path' that we had post the Vendren Wells incident
Or the 'we didn't touch the arc thrower'

[flint granite]

Cleave on bonesaw makes me feel like a fucking god of death

[craggy jewel]

If a normal human being canonically could kill a carapace armored Ogryn in a single strike consistently

Genuinely would cook an entire chapter like wtf

[robust sable]

It's basically just damage peak min max

[vale garden]

I really enjoy running rampage with shivs and putting points into the chem on crit and stim cdr nodes

[toxic dagger]

its doing it for the same reason ("what the fuck is resource management") which is a bit meh

[craggy jewel]

Like it’s an Ogryn

Wearing fucking tank armor

[neon fern]

i agree it's kinda dumb but fuck psyker

[craggy jewel]

One hit with a rusty crowbar

[toxic dagger]

based

[vast yoke]

no like genuinely asking, since im not sure how worth it is to use its cleave heavies when they're that slow

[craggy jewel]

Like bro call the Custodes up asap we got a candidate

[robust sable]

*Fuck Purgatus Psyker

Gun Psyker is hip and cool

[neon fern]

no

[robust sable]

Yes

[neon fern]

all of psyker is borked

[vale garden]

If you want fast cleave try the 2nd shivs mark

[craggy jewel]

Brother is built like a toothpick and is melting daemons with a rusty cleaver and some monster energy

[vale garden]

Slappaslappaslappa

[vocal saffron]

Linkin Park

[flint granite]

I'm glad the tox grenades are just kept in fuckin tin cans

[lusty egret]

hive scum is in the zone

[hallow raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G0ljAX3qO0&t=418s

[limber cradle]

Well, what else are we gonna use?

[flint granite]

I wanna mod them to be mountain dew cans

[craggy jewel]

Give Hive Scum custodes enhancements and better gear an they genuinely 1v1 Angron like genuinely bro wtf 😭

[vale garden]

To be fair they probably just railed a litre of Keeper of Secrets milk straight into their veins and can see through both walls and time

[dreamy hound]

can o' beans grenade

[flint granite]

TRUE

[winged bay]

The hotfix has some stimfield and syringe changes but can't parse them

[young forum]

so what's the best melee weapon looking like

[vale garden]

Mountain dew grenade is disgusting man, its just a straight up better immolation nade

[hallow raft]

[craggy jewel]

I mean carapace armored Ogryns being foddered by any class is like by human standards Primarch tier

[young forum]

also is gun scum valid for havoc

[vale garden]

Tbh though, I haaaate the rocket launcher

That thing feel like assssss

[flint granite]

Rocket launcher is hot ass

[craggy jewel]

Hive Scum making that shit look like light work

[neon fern]

rocket launcher is peak

[craggy jewel]

Tf they feeding the mfs of Tertium?!

[flint granite]

Esp compared to tox grenades

[neon fern]

one shot and i can fill the killfeed with m yname

[robust sable]

Stimms

[neon fern]

in an instant

[limber cradle]

Blinders my goat

[flint granite]

They should either buff the damage or the radius

[lusty egret]

lol there's a slight difference between dumb chunks of flesh with poorly melted together slabs of metals as armor and genetically enhanced (with literal god genes) humans and massive power armors

[limber cradle]

I kinda like blinders with nades give 3 stacks of chem tox

[vale garden]

You click to shoot and then register your intention to shoot, which is filed and then processed in 3-5 business days, before you need to fill in a confirmation and then it shoots

[split halo]

https://i.imgur.com/UhB65GE.png whats strength?

[hallow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/pills-crazy-parks-and-rec-gif-23167834

[craggy jewel]

If they can do that to a malnourished human give that shit to Gulliman and watch him box up every daemon primarch single-handedly and simultaneously

[neon fern]

the responsiveness of rl is my only issue yeah

[dreamy hound]

str is an increase to damage, cleave and stagger

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-drugs-needles-injections-gif-23167839

[neon fern]

i don't try to compared it to chem nades cuz they are straight up broken

[solemn thorn]

Anyone else encountering a bug when using the shivs?
Can't heavy attack just hold my arms up high, can't dodge properly and it will stay like that until my stims comes back and automatically use my stim when I havnt pressed the button, primary works completely fine during the bug

[neon fern]

in a not fun way

[flint granite]

Fair!

[lusty egret]

can't wait to fight a plague marine

[split halo]

whats the difference between strength upgrades and damage upgrades on guns ?

[craggy jewel]

Yeah but malnourished drug addict with a rusty crowbar doing that in a single strike because he got angry is mind boggling

[rich carbon]

what blessings on twin stub pistol

[vale garden]

Mods probably

Do you have one of the auto firer

[craggy jewel]

Bro they are getting COOKED wtf 😭

[shy scroll]

holy shit i jsut got needle pistol this feels very strong

[solemn thorn]

Nope

[flint granite]

It is.

[vale garden]

Yeah needle pistol stronk

[flint granite]

Ludicrously strong

[robust sable]

Very strong side arm for melee builds.

[split halo]

https://i.imgur.com/L3EH9G7.jpeg what do i put on dual smgs so they get OP ?

[dreamy hound]

damage ONLY gives you damage

power will give you damage, cleave (so your bullets can go through extra enemies) and stagger (so you might be able to stagger enemies you can't otherwise, or interrupt attacks)

[novel oracle]

[random shuttle]

With COVID Gun you can one shot most enemies and 3 shot Oggies.

[novel oracle]

I LOVE HYPER VIOLENCE AND CLEAVE!!!!!!

[flint granite]

I see we had the same idea to stack the fuck out of cleave on the saw

[shy scroll]

wich do one do u guys use explody or spready pistol

[craggy jewel]

As other people have said foddering Beasts of Nurgle in melee is already absurdly more impressive then killing a plague marine

[vale garden]

Thats your compliment for the day, now back to the testing mines with you

[flint granite]

Serrated blade vet on cocaine

[craggy jewel]

But well

[lusty egret]

at least crowbar oneshot makes more sense than dueling sword singlehandedly bullying everything

[dreamy hound]

you heard em cole

[vast yoke]

pretty good, ty, im surprised he didnt mention push - light 2 - light 3 which i found to be rlly safe and comparable dps to other single target combos

[vale garden]

Im all about those shivs for melee build tho mang

[limber cradle]

This sounds like RoR2 plasma shrimp going off

[hallow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-fight-coronavirus-kill-covid19-devil-emoji-virus-emoji-gif-16999908

[hot moth]

I use the explodey, it has +2 stacks on crit/weakspot which is better for primary fire, alt fire takes a noticeable dleay to swap which is very awkward

[split halo]

i dont know what im doing https://i.imgur.com/6edxvxM.png

[novel oracle]

I DONT WANNA PLAYTEST THE SPACE MARINE CLASS THOUGH

[clear isle]

lads, I see a lot of ppl complaining on the steam reviews that the class is too weak or is locked into one build, is it copium or is it a real issue?

[novel oracle]

YOU CANT MAKE ME

[hallow raft]

Yea. I found that one as well. Personally most of the time I just spam lights. Cause I'm lazy.

[craggy jewel]

Ok well the Zealots just have to be getting direct buffs from the Big Guy because he thinks it’s super funny to let a bunch of homeless psychopaths abuse other, diseased, homeless psychopaths

[craggy jewel]

Because the Zealots are moving on demon time

[novel oracle]

heavy sword does it so much better tho
this class literally is just the best one to use hsword on

[random shuttle]

So Hive scum is old news

[hot moth]

yeah but carapace damage is suffering

[vale garden]

Man

[random shuttle]

we sure are getting Skitari next, right?

SKIITARIIIIII HYPE TIME

[flint granite]

Oh my goodness gracious

[novel oracle]

is it?

[vale garden]

I'll try your hsword shenanigans then

Is the play to spam heavies?

[random shuttle]

Let's build a baseless hype train and then write angry reviews on steam when our dreamt up fantasy didn't manifest

[dreamy hound]

i never get people saying Hsword cara dmg is bad

like its kinda mid, but its nod bad

[hot moth]

it's not dclaw bad at least

[craggy jewel]

Yeah I would NOT say Hive Scum is struggling on ANYTHING damage wise

[novel oracle]

but then you throw in 25% rending and suddenly

wowie

[vocal saffron]

Admech next year guys trust

[lusty egret]

everyone in the strike team is obviously blessed

[novel oracle]

its quite good

[vast yoke]

i like to open 3 lights push 2 lights

[novel oracle]

at cara

[hallow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-mandalorian-this-is-the-way-intensifies-gif-16048235

[craggy jewel]

Yeah Darktide plays very VERY loose with the lore

[dreamy hound]

i plan to pay FS devs directly to make sure this is never the case

[novel oracle]

then hyper violence gets thrown in the mix

[cobalt talon]

What else could it be, hive city maintenance guy called Clark? Clark The Plumber

[craggy jewel]

But bro how is the enemy supposed to play 😭

[random shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/false-facts-fake-news-gif-3718583105056900815

[random shuttle]

it so happens I know what's the next class

[mystic bolt]

Love this class

[random shuttle]

since John Fatshark is my roommate

[limber cradle]

Well you see scum has cybernetics in their penance skins so they're just like skitarii

[craggy jewel]

Least deranged Hive Scum player currently

[random shuttle]

And my Dad works at Nintendo.

[novel oracle]

thats the neat part
they dont
reminder that the twins/lts heads are carapace

[mystic bolt]

Real

[lusty egret]

remember that everything passes through gw, if they didn't think something would make sense canonically they wouldn't have let fatshark go for it

[random shuttle]

Next class is Steve.

Just Steve.

[fast gust]

Sorry Cole, I have played more than now 600 hours on hammer in monster hunter

I only hit the head, always

🫡

[hallow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-prairie-dog-gif-13190864

[random shuttle]

And trust me guy

[lusty egret]

OH DAMN, right that since you can back up heavy sword with needle pistol it's now playable

[random shuttle]

Melee Steve is a beast.

[vale garden]

I mean, they dont play it loose with the lore. It's super consistent, strength is determined by relevance to the plot

[novel oracle]

backup???
nonono
heavy swords doing everything now

[random shuttle]

When he uses his Mk7 Office Stapler...

And Mk1 Random Plank

[mystic bolt]

Hiver has been very fun

[craggy jewel]

Like holy shit this is what I mean

Grab a book zealot, Arbites with shock mines, and two giga damage Hive Scum

Isn’t that just free Havoc 40?

[lusty egret]

rending stimm+rampage rending node?

[craggy jewel]

Like how do you ever lose?

[random shuttle]

The usual way

[vale garden]

No bubble psyker to kiss your booboos

[random shuttle]

AI Director on H40: "Cowabunga it is then"

[novel oracle]

no stim
just rampage rending and hyper violence

[vale garden]

L condition

[flint granite]

We're 40k humans true, but we're 40k humans written by Dan Abnett.

[craggy jewel]

I feel like a Hive Scum with support just wins every game

[vale garden]

Yes

[lusty egret]

amazing, love how this class makes the most underrated stuff playable

[craggy jewel]

Oh true but I was thinking Speaker Arbites for back up for ranged

That and book should be fine

[mystic bolt]

I love huffing stims

[random shuttle]

yeah I love how Scum finally made Rashad Caxe playable

😏

[fast gust]

The steam reviews are gold

[vale garden]

Cole, did you ever try running crate with no custom stim?

[craggy jewel]

Havoc 40 shit situations are fixed when you have enough dps

[robust sable]

I also had to do this lmao

[mystic bolt]

People have been babied so much by infinite cc gold toughness for tooooo long

[vale garden]

AOE heal possible and all that

[low harbor]

Incredible

[young forum]

what's the best melee wep so far

[novel oracle]

no cuz its ass

[vale garden]

[robust sable]

This clip definitely shows off that "none survivability" btw @fast gust

[flint granite]

Community wide skill check

[craggy jewel]

Just hit the enemies harder

[vale garden]

I suppose it's hard to beat rampage and desperado

[mystic bolt]

Hive scum is the great filter

[novel oracle]

hsword was always playable, quite good actually
it just had a pretty big weakness into armor, and that is what makes people think its actually a doodoo poopoo weapon cuz everything must be measured by how fast it can kill one of the dozens of enemy types in the game

[craggy jewel]

The fact anyone would say this class is weak is just fucking hysterical

[cobalt talon]

What if Repentia is next class?

[craggy jewel]

I think it’s well

[mystic bolt]

It’s a very high skill class I’d say

[young forum]

@novel oracle can you drop The Opinion ™

[hot moth]

it shows who understands that a single rifleman is a threat, and who doesn't

[robust sable]

Next class is 2 Ogryns pretending to be a Leman Russ

[vale garden]

It starts weak to be fair

[mystic bolt]

You actually have to move

[zenith fern]

Nah man, scum dodges are so fucking funny because of this type of stuff LMAO

[limber cradle]

I like that the hive scum opinions are either "this is literally the best thing ever" or "fatshark just released the worst class in existence"

[craggy jewel]

I’d say possibly 2nd strongest or 3rd strongest class atm

[flint granite]

Hive scum leveling is fucking miserable

[craggy jewel]

Arbites still above it though because well

Shock mines

[novel oracle]

its just gonna be shivs tbh
cuz theyre easy and strong and safe out of the box

[shy scroll]

wait people think this class is weak? im going full toxic build and its killing everything with ease

[craggy jewel]

And 11 second charge

[vale garden]

I think the greatest threat to scummers are stairs with a drop

[cobalt talon]

I'ma tank I'ma tank I'ma tank

[random shuttle]

I do love how Steam/Reddit had the SAME trajectory, more or less, whenever FS does a BIG update:

[fast gust]

class is sitting at 50% atm reviews wise

[zenith fern]

reason why is weak because the players are weaklings

[craggy jewel]

Elite ball reference

[vale garden]

The amount of times of dodged once and landed in a different time zone is getting ridiculous

[bleak moon]

bone saw dump stat?

[craggy jewel]

Many such cases

[low harbor]

It’s the least beginner friendly with the worst levelling experience of all classes

But it’s also powerful enough with a full build to easily be a top3 class

[shy scroll]

like 3 bullets to crusher with needle litterally killed it, its insane

[vale garden]

Remember when vet 2.0 was vet 2.0

[craggy jewel]

Speaking of Ogryn I hope they consider reworking his charge

Arbites charge is just

I mean it’s literally better in every way

Taunt and Gungryn are still great

[random shuttle]

it isnt 😛

[signal nebula]

Class isn't weak but it's hugely spikey. Most of the power is in Desperado and Rampage + Stimm

[novel oracle]

ogryn charge makes you immune to melee/ranged when you do it
gives you attack speed after

[mystic bolt]

Ogryn charge is fine

[random shuttle]

I forgot yesterday I was on Arby and not on Oggy and tried to charge 2 snipers

they give me a big ouchie

[mystic bolt]

It’s literally one of the best abilities in the game

[flint granite]

Ogryn charge is awesome what

[shy scroll]

like my only issue about the class is i wish i can make chemical depedency and stimm supply work togehter but im sure FS will fix that later

[low harbor]

On a melee build it puts out power sword tier dps while being agile

On a ranged build it puts out gunpsyker tier dps while having ammo sustain

[vale garden]

IM A BLOODY BATTERING RAM, THATS WHAT I AM

[limber cradle]

I genuinely think "hive scum bad" is the biggest self report in DT rn

[bleak moon]

oh the bone saw is covered in piss. thats neat

[craggy jewel]

It’s not bad but Arbites charge has an insanely lower cooldown and damage buffs

[random shuttle]

I do love my Twin Uzis, activating Despacito and going to town.

[kind mist]

ogryn charge also has damage buffs

more damage buffs

[mystic bolt]

Ogryn has damage buff as well on charge

It’s insanely good

[random shuttle]

Ogryn Charge also goes, if I remember factually, 10000 meters.

[robust sable]

Ogryn Charge also does your taxes, walks your dogs, and cooks dinner.

[limber cradle]

Forrest Gump ahh ogryn

[shy scroll]

like i just want stim supply to be buffed so i can use it i want to be full chem/toxic based scum with saw/needle

[calm aurora]

what about dclaw 🧱

[mystic bolt]

Devil claw 4 my beloved

[random shuttle]

With ogryn charge I can also bash through The Valley of Crushers, for the Lord is with me

[lusty egret]

i know it is great against most enemies, but especially with what ai director throws at you on higher difficulties, being unable to deal with armor made it a bad pick for those difficulties
but im not talking about only the heavy sword, im talking about the shredder autopistol too, i've seen few builds on hive scum that make it shine

[vast yoke]

oh wtf the alternate mk shivs have a unique post push attack single target combo huh

[novel oracle]

probably goated too cuz iirc the parries count as heavy attacks since they worked with vicious offering

[torpid cloud]

I need to get some good ones

As it stands, I rarely get kills with them cause other scum also shoot

[craggy jewel]

Idk getting almost 3 charges off in the same time an Ogryn can get one has changed my perspective

[mystic bolt]

It does count

[random shuttle]

Also Ogryn has Branx

[mystic bolt]

It’s really really good

[calm aurora]

you can probably use hyper violence on the parry too

[random shuttle]

Which is the most based weapon in the game

[craggy jewel]

Idk I know Ogryn has it’s uses but everytime I play it I just wish I was playing Arbites

[stuck island]

Is there patchnotes for the new update today? Does Stim Supply give dependency yet?

[mystic bolt]

I wish hive scum got shovel

[random shuttle]

I love both equally

[mystic bolt]

I wouldn’t play anything else

[robust sable]

Ogryn Charge is more potent per use, but Arbites Charge is more frequent.
It's differing levels of utility.

[random shuttle]

for me they have very clear distinction

Arbites is the moving wall

[warped grove]

I cant wait to try Scum in Havoc now that the worst modifier is gone

[random shuttle]

Ogryn is the rolling avalanche

[calm aurora]

rock

[shy scroll]

i havent bought arbites yet i might give it awhirl

[craggy jewel]

Idk I only take Ogryn for taunt

[random shuttle]

Arbites is great

such a fucking monolith

You can have entire mob crush upon you and say "That's it? My turn."

[craggy jewel]

Or damage

[zenith fern]

best ability

[shy scroll]

i havent played since twins boss first got introduced so i got alot of catching up to do, plus i only played ogryn

[random shuttle]

Also, Arbites Power Maul

is kinda Stupid.

[latent lark]

i weep at this classes endurance

[craggy jewel]

But if I’m looking for cc I go Arbites

[shy scroll]

what caught my eye is shield and pistol

[warped grove]

class designed to avoid damage
look inside
toughness sucks

[latent lark]

cannot wait to reach rep 30 to actually find whatever survivability i can

[kind mist]

Going to get ogryn barrage unlimited reloads like desperado

[random shuttle]

arby also has them Voltaic Mines

which is "haha I win" blitz

[craggy jewel]

The “turn off the game” button

[latent lark]

designed to avoid damage then has rampage 😭

[signal nebula]

Ogryn is king of making space. Arbites is king at holding space. That's how I differentiate them.

Imo Ogryn is still the strongest class in the game

[limber cradle]

Petition to call desperado auto set ups "desperautos"

[random shuttle]

MPBBGA movement ❤️

[zenith fern]

folks is this true?

[warped grove]

Yah but rampage doesnt need you to take damage? I think

[craggy jewel]

Jesus CHRIST

[mystic bolt]

Desperado has a ton of survivability not to mention all builds can get the node for immune to melee hit while sliding, like hive scum has endurance just in ways a lot of the player base isn’t familiar with or doesn’t wanna take the time to learn…

[warped grove]

Just keep dodging

[raven matrix]

best melee pairing to the dual stub pistols?

[kind mist]

crowbar is a little undertuned

[latent lark]

no but it increases ur damage taken by 25%

[split halo]

was this a mistake? i dont understand what im doing https://i.imgur.com/5cNUaPg.png

[mystic bolt]

That’s funny

[latent lark]

and low asf stamina regen

[ocean fiber]

i'm wading into hordes with rampage and coming out with nary a nick or scratch

[latent lark]

it’s the moments after

[warped grove]

3 stam regen curio perks

[latent lark]

where the game will spawn the enemy behind you

[stoic halo]

shiv

[craggy jewel]

Yeah I just prefer Arbites

Ogryn does too much damage atm and taunt is too good for it not to be Ogryn

[grand jewel]

I think it'd feel tip fucking top if it had a toughness back on dodge talent

[mystic bolt]

Yeah just don’t get caught with ur pants down play around corners and such

[ocean fiber]

shout perk

[zenith fern]

swap perks to damage for maniac and flak/unyielding

[random shuttle]

I mean

[rustic lava]

I hate permanently on voice chat trolls, just had to kick a guy because he was just ugly laughing and was messing around

[craggy jewel]

It’s 50/50

Taunt is so good and Ogryn deals an absurd amount of damage now

[latent lark]

yeah, i didn’t think about that

i’ll put it on

[limber cradle]

Make yhis amn game balance lead fatshark

[signal nebula]

I prefer Arbites as well but that's because playing Ogryn feels like piloting a tank

[drowsy relic]

Shivs or tacaxe probably

[low harbor]

It could use some minor buffs

[ocean fiber]

to be fair without it yeah you're cooked if you get surrounded

[grand jewel]

dodge based class doesn't have dodge for toughness talent 🥀

[limber cradle]

Tbh I kinda dislike Og because it plays at a different height and fucks up my muscle memory

Same reason I didnt like bardin

At least Og is tall and not short tho

[warped grove]

Giant vs midget

[grand jewel]

yeah aiming up so much is goofy

[random shuttle]

What I love about ogryn

is the Voice Acting

and maximum Ogryn Trolling

[jaunty copper]

new oggy calls teammates sweetheart

[warped grove]

I like the new Heavy personality

[jaunty copper]

I gotta change my oggy's voice

[robust sable]

I find it hard to go back

[grand jewel]

and wants to doornail things

[mystic bolt]

I wonder if other classes will get another personality

[robust sable]

I'm so used to Psyker and now enjoying Hive Scum so much that

Ogryn feels like

molasses

[main wagon]

Holy shit Ive swapped from rocket launcher to toxic soup can

I love soup

[vernal sluice]

soup is preem

[low harbor]

Ogryn needs that remove heavy atk movement penalty talent to feel good imo

[jaunty copper]

the trick is to play leadbelcher

[split halo]

? whats maniac?

[calm aurora]

ogryn has the best voices... I just can't deal with the other male voice now, it feels so over the top it's painful

[jaunty copper]

stay in the back and shoot everything

[limber cradle]

I kinda dislike 2/3 now 4 voices for them. Bodyguard is vet voice 4 to me, Bully is way too smart still. Brawler is the only one that feels like a proper ogryn to me. But that's cause I'm a big dumb nerd who cares about "the lore" or whatever.

[grand jewel]

enemy type

[jaunty copper]

keep liluns safe

[mystic bolt]

Chem grenade is best blitz in the game by far

Besides rock

[random shuttle]

But which lore?

[jaunty copper]

chem grenade is so crazy powerful lmao

[grand jewel]

most specialists, and dreg ragers, maybe something else but yea

[main wagon]

Im so glad you said this

[random shuttle]

Because GW itself recook oggs recently to not be Murder Toddlers

but just giants oafs.

[main wagon]

You beat me to the joke

[limber cradle]

Only War

[low harbor]

Chem nade is the strongest non-regen blitz in the game yea

[grand jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-warhammer-40k-brick-grimdark-darktide-gif-7305957782246441871

[robust sable]

Dawg, trust me, I know my builds.
I've likely got near 1000 hours on Ogryn alone.
It's just... the dodges kill me so much (as in they feel bad after playing other classes so much now).

[limber cradle]

If you point it out to me I'll be happy to agree

[zenith fern]

armor type
Usually used for ragers and few specials

[jaunty copper]

thats fair

[calm aurora]

most of the opinions on reddit has been informed by Tanner and E soo....

[jaunty copper]

I have been zippin a lot on scum

[limber cradle]

Like the book it's from or something

[random shuttle]

Recent Warhammer Crime books with Baggit and Clodde, for example

[mystic bolt]

Corrupt guardsmen watching my ogryn beat the living fuck out of a demonhost

[limber cradle]

Thats fair ig, Clodde is smart

[warped grove]

People saying the class needs more toughness are expecting Zealot with inf ammo and stims lol

[drowsy relic]

Unfortunately

[grand jewel]

corrupt guardsman watching my vet wake up a daemonhost and kill it by himself before it gets to attack

[random shuttle]

I don't recall the source but it was mentioned with one of the books - I think with Cassia the Ogg Psyker - that Cicatrix Maledictum also influenced oggs to become more intelligent

[jaunty copper]

people genuinely just need to learn how to play hive scum

its me

I'm people

[warped grove]

Hi people

[limber cradle]

I'm like, heavily ingrained into the only war ogryn who was too dumb to reload and would not get into chimeras

[grand jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-ben-kenobi-of-course-i-know-them-theyre-me-gif-25185969

[random shuttle]

Oh yeah I get that

for the longest part GW did Oggies as simpleton murder toddlers Fred Flintstone ass mofos

But the success of Dorktide OGGs sort of tilted them now

[limber cradle]

Well, yk what, good for Ogryns tbh

[random shuttle]

I am sure that COGG, the ogg in new Owlcat RPG, also will be more inteliggent than oldgryns

[limber cradle]

I imagine he has to be

[random shuttle]

yeah

so it is becoming the new default

[limber cradle]

Tbh in retrospect Nork is way less impressive now

[random shuttle]

Still dumb

still dense

but no longer like 4 years olds

[iron patrol]

is dependency or vultures mark better overall for desperado? on one hand, free 40% cooldown and 20% crit, on the other no ranged damage bonus

[calm aurora]

truth be told, Tanner was right about nades. But everything E has posted is so fucking damn wrong. Like ranged dmg affecting the RPG, making a build with hyperviolence and hypercritical and calling it easy build for lvling.

[random shuttle]

Vibetiders at it again eh? 😄

[calm aurora]

like bro stop

[signal nebula]

i like Vulture

[calm aurora]

and he calls himself top 1%

[warped grove]

Listening to Mr. E in the big 25 🥀

[mystic bolt]

Why do people think the dual uzis are weak, like just focus on anything that isn’t a crusher, also weak spot node makes those things flyyyy

[calm aurora]

with Tanner calling himself global top 1

[drowsy relic]

Easy leveling build only requires perks from level 17 onward

[calm aurora]

like ok bro not even close

[neon fern]

he can't be top 1 cuz that's me

[iron patrol]

who the fuck is tanner, who the fuck is mr E

[warped grove]

You know whos top 1?

[mystic bolt]

Lovers

[warped grove]

The emperor

[ocean fiber]

Ummmmmmm no actually it's ME, Idiot!

[limber cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-dumb-and-dumber-gif-jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-jimcarrey-gif-13624953691709811452

[ocean fiber]

because i said so

[mystic bolt]

They’re just sloptide YouTubers

[iron patrol]

i watch zero darktide content are these like, youtubers or streamers or some shit

[eager surge]

After trying the melee ult, I feel like I have become the Rager

[iron patrol]

ah

[zenith fern]

one is not a claimed sloptide tuber at all

[random shuttle]

Unrelated to anything but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mMnVC_vNTs

Baki Breaking Bad is forever Peak Internet

[warped grove]

I only get my builds from lantern or here cuz how dogshit the yt side is

[zealous basin]

what blessings for needle pistol

[iron patrol]

i get my darktide information from the finest source, posting incredibly wrong information in the respective class chat and waiting for someone to furiously correct me

[main trellis]

undertuned?
boi needs to dig deeper

also

[warped grove]

start diggin in your hive twin

[main trellis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH87EYNQtNU
fking lmao

[warped grove]

[jaunty copper]

lmao WHAT

[rigid dock]

wut

[calm aurora]

lantern has horrible builds

[limber cradle]

Chem dependency does not work with crate right

[jaunty copper]

Im not even level 30 yet

[rigid dock]

ranged is like the one thing its definitely busted at lmao

[iron patrol]

hush if the devs believe it we get to have more dakka

[jaunty copper]

and even my stupid ass can desperado through p much anything

fucking spinning my dual pistols like I'm dante

[alpine orchid]

I wasn't expecting much when I got the Hive Scum, but now that I've played it I think I enjoy it more than I've enjoyed any other class and it's entirely because of the dual shivs

[warped grove]

Okay I didnt think Mr E could get worse

But holy shit

[novel oracle]

i literally dont believe this
i was in auric runs with him and he saw what it can do
shit like these
thats mr e in these runs

[zenith fern]

become every british citizen about to put tourist to sleep looking for directions

[warped grove]

Desperado is meta in havoc 😭 😭 😭

[main trellis]

A classic case of skill issue on the bozo... yet again

[calm aurora]

''I can't solo cheese my way through Mael'' whine whine''

[zenith fern]

https://tenor.com/view/london-crab-gif-18733951

[bleak moon]

rampage kinda fucks god damn

[split halo]

how do i melee better? i swear every time i turn around an enemy spawns inside me and downs me

[warped grove]

team game
look inside
cant solo, build bad

[limber cradle]

Never stop moving

[zenith fern]

block, push attack

Keep on moving

[limber cradle]

Float like a butterfly, the tree isn't lying to you

[iron patrol]

rampage fucks until a random mutant yeets your shit and you lose your rage so now you are just left with 0 stamina and 25% more damage taken

[novel oracle]

also one again
a burster not working properly is fucking game ruining