hivescum-class

[unkempt salmon]

Train was re-included in the storyline

[novel oracle]

for left side

[broken moss]

you say that as if that was their commitment to never nerf anything else

it's coming. I'm just curious what's going to get hit

[rose flax]

they would of, when they did the nerfs already, it's not true infinite ammo as well, it just sets your ammo back to 20% of max reserve

[novel oracle]

Vultures mark changes
Also adds stacks on melee kill (its still only ranged buffs)
Being at max stacks grants an x% chance to count as dodging for melee and ranged attacks (replacing vultures dodge subnode current effect)
Pickpocket subnode, but only at max stacks, and activating it consumes all stacks (Replaces vultures push subnode entirely)

desperados ranged immunity draining from 100% chance to dodge ranged over time by 10%/s and kills restored x%, depending on the enemy

[arctic steppe]

but it has no limit and 20% can be like 2 magazines on some weapons

its not hard to kill and elite or special

no limit as in cooldown

[fervent steppe]

IS there any good Toxin build thats been discovered yet?

[novel oracle]

its so stupid

[rare heart]

Im gonna go Keta

[digital drift]

im so sad that it took me long after mastering the shivs to realise the thrown one applies a chem toxin stack 😐

[novel oracle]

ok i need to post my hsword build on GL then add it to the pins

[main prairie]

I’m not much liking crowbar, i have it in a ranged build but it just really feels meh to me? Anyone else?

[broken moss]

idk what quirks exist on that node but it sounds like as long as your gun doesn't need multiple mags to kill an elite, you'll never run out of ammo

[limber cradle]

Desperado is like Castigators but actually fun

[broken moss]

just reading it

[worn canopy]

i got error 9999 with my level 14 arbite friend and level 1 hive scum myself, what's is this means

he try play heresy mode

[hardy minnow]

Hello everyone, sorry but what’s the différence between the saw unactivate and activite in game ?

[novel quest]

the dual pistols are so fun

[digital drift]

yellow saw applies chem toxin (DoT)
purple saw applies brittleness

[dreamy rover]

No man's land in a nutshell

[hardy minnow]

What is brittleness ?

[amber sundial]

you do more dmg to armored targets

[digital drift]

reduced armour on that enemy

[novel quest]

debuff that pretty much makes enemy armor less effective

[novel oracle]

do you want the nerd version or are those answers good enough

[hardy minnow]

Oh okay, Thx a lot !

[broken moss]

no formulas

[safe dawn]

this class doesnt get toughness on melee kill? am a bit lost xdd

[dreamy rover]

I like the spiky helmet they give us for the penance

[thorny ginkgo]

need a needle pistol build

looks like fun

[novel oracle]

every class gets 5% on melee kill
thats baseline mechanics

[fallow briar]

What’s good to run on shivs?

[safe dawn]

Then i just got fucked by a bug or smt

[broken moss]

was about to say I'm pretty sure that's standard for everyone

[safe dawn]

cause i wasnt getting toughness at all

[onyx ledge]

is collat or mobility the dump stat for the dual pistols

[novel oracle]

were you using the saw

[safe dawn]

nono

[broken moss]

taking so much damage with no tdr that it immediately vanished?

[novel oracle]

you sure you were actually the one getting the kills? lol

[safe dawn]

yessir

i was on my own

[stone knot]

we do agree that Nimble does absolutely nothing right ?

I mean rn

[novel oracle]

what?

[arctic steppe]

idk i feel like im flying when i ledge boost

[stone knot]

Feels bugged

[broken moss]

wait what's the deal with the saw

[worn canopy]

i feel like mobility is classic, collat something you wanna go speedy if the sprint speed 80% make you go faster enough

[lethal quartz]

The saw is the noob filter

[novel oracle]

it applies toxin on hit with the toxin coating
if they die to the toxin, thats not a melee kill

[tender forge]

so are melee kills supposed to recharge blinders or only close range ranged weapon kills?

[broken moss]

I always dump collateral on anything I'm not actually intending to stagger things with

which, is most things

[broken moss]

ah I see

that's kinda shit though

[livid raven]

it is

[novel oracle]

pin is updated and has scum hsword now

[broken moss]

I feel like that's working against you horribly

[thorny ginkgo]

THANKS

[tender hollow]

you know the worst part about running custom stims is you cant stim jork it

[rare heart]

i went with the name Stimmy

[livid raven]

you have to ask a friend to jork it for you

[rare heart]

because funny

[dreamy rover]

I think there is a perk that gives you toughness on chem kill though

[zealous ravine]

the drugs a little too strong rn

[rare heart]

i honestly wish that the custom stims had a healing one

[tender hollow]

theyre probably running custom stims too

[gritty elk]

dump stat on needle pistol?

[livid raven]

stability or mobility

[vale garden]

There's a perk that makes your stims cure corruption

[livid raven]

or whatever really

[vale garden]

But yeah no health or post wound healing

[broken moss]

ah ok well that would be good provided it actually works the way it sounds like it would. it's just unfortunate that dt tooltips are often.. inaccurate

[lavish forge]

actually its yours

[broken moss]

or misleading

[cunning rain]

I already use them as a renewable celerity stim, if they had an option to be a healing stim, that’d be a bit too good

[livid raven]

you could say that this doesn't Bode well

[zealous ravine]

my char aint bode

[novel quest]

losing out on medstimms is the worst part but at least you can cure corruption with a perk

[lavish forge]

me neitheer

[zealous ravine]

me neitherer

[rare heart]

yeash thats why im gonna run no custom stim and runs the healing one that allows me to get back the medbox thing that hive scum comes with

[amber sapphire]

Ngl, seeing a huge wall of gunners beaming the team down and popping desperado to just blast them all away is top tier

[tender hollow]

its so good

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-theoden-king-of-rohan-you-have-no-power-here-gif-4952489

[zenith pagoda]

Is it better to use purple or green saw on bosses/void shield?

[warm dust]

final look of my torch head hive scum since in robocop rogue city the torch head does not wear much helmet or mask i still not sure what i should use in the head option

[random shuttle]

I am a Rampage / Box of Special Powder that Makes you go "Drugs" enjoyer

[cunning rain]

I love desperado and especially just dual wielding, worst part about it is finding a fit that matches the play style

[stone knot]

@novel oracle I see on your melee builds that you're never using Hyper critical, on paper it sounds good but, the fact that you're not using it says otherwise

[livid raven]

void shield only takes like 10% damage from toxin irrc

does it sound good on paper tho

[random shuttle]

As I understand its also because HyperCrit right now works like Haymaker, that is, kills from it don't trigger SHIT as they don't count as Your kills...? 😄

[novel oracle]

its good, but most weapons that i build into melee with good crit scale with hyper violence better, and they two are antisynergistic

its great for a ranged build where something like shivs are youre backup melee

[thorny ginkgo]

@novel oracle when do you use the needle pistol on the heavy sword build

[stone knot]

ah, yeah, okay

thanks

[cunning rain]

Since they’ve already got more cosmetics than arbites, what’s everyone’s first day fits?

[calm aurora]

@novel oracle , why do you not take crit on dodge on your taxe knife build?

[thorny ginkgo]

i replaced the threat talent with that one

[cedar cairn]

Does anyone know how much (if at all) ADS reduces recoil and spread
I want to compare against Sticky Fingers

[near mauve]

is stamina on this class bugged lmao im outregining my stam loss when i dodge slide

[somber blade]

nah the stam regen is 2 when other classes got around 0.5

[livid raven]

no, you just have an insane stamina recharge delay and rate

[thorny ginkgo]

does ganger move faster than zealot?

[cedar cairn]

Haven't fooled around much yet but

[calm aurora]

I can do that on my psyker as well.

[cunning rain]

Nice. But I can’t help but see the moustache and the mouth piece look kinda like a cat’s mouth together

[novel oracle]

a lot

[broken moss]

people are really, really leaning into the drug angle

[cunning rain]

I ran the same thing for a bit, so I’d say good choice

[arctic imp]

Is the cleaver just bad? Or is it super niche? Requiring a certain way to play?

[mortal meadow]

personally as someone who reps the show uhhh
that's me LMAO

[cedar cairn]

The pipe shiv cosmetics are goated
Definitely looks better than the forks at least

[arctic imp]

But… the scissors

Come onnnnn

[cedar cairn]

But pipes

[mortal meadow]

i joined a match the moment it dropped and people were like "this class was made for you bro."
and i never took more offense to love

[amber sapphire]

I'm just waiting for that 1911 look alike skin on pistols

[mortal meadow]

LIKE I'VE BEEN SCREAMING FOR MONTHS AT MY HOMEBOYS "MAN I WISH THEY'D LET US DUAL WIELD"
NOW ITS JUST HERE N I'M LIKE "UHHHHHHHHHH"

[cunning rain]

May as well share mine to, though it’s a bit old, I recently changed the pants for the ones from the give ammo through scavenger achievement

[crude robin]

the crowbar feels kinda insaine and il ove it

[random shuttle]

love crowbar

love bonesaw

[vale garden]

Yeah im still crafting but I think im gonna do str/crit+CDR custom stim and run the box or rampage

[mortal meadow]

i fuck with the crowbar heavily however love me quick stabs

[thorny ginkgo]

how?

[cunning rain]

Haven’t played around with the crowbar too much, I want to. But my OCD keeps telling me to reach max mastery with my current weapons before moving onto the next batch (pistols and crowbar)

[crude robin]

heavy attack in secondary mode just feels nice, and kinda grusome when you do it to a demonhost eye

[cedar cairn]

FatShark officially says "SHUT UP ABOUT THE DAMN SKITARII"

[vale garden]

CDR on custom with box and the stim CD reduction on kill setup means you should be stimming and boxing near constantly

Basically immune to corruption at that point lol

[cedar cairn]

(People will not pay attention)

[cunning rain]

Nope

[vale garden]

Although running the same stim with hyper violence and rampage sounds tasty

[wise sorrel]

does getting stimmed by the box count as a stim for chemical dependency?

[vale garden]

Apparently no, but it is intended to

[devout bison]

SO stimm build is bugged right now?

[digital drift]

gonna be nonstop repping my gang tbh

[vale garden]

Actually, the custom strength stim sounds goated for a rampage hyper violence build

[cursive mica]

yo what the hell is hper violence

[vale garden]

Bottom middle section

[limber cradle]

Good

Its good

[cursive mica]

is that just a bunch of damage for killing high helth shit basically

[cunning rain]

A fellow Tread Lightlies enjoyer, I see that we went in very different directions

[vale garden]

Yeh

Kinda

[real dew]

Extra damage for overkilling isn't it?

[thorny ginkgo]

mister e’s gordon fentman build looks nice

[remote eagle]

how do you get chem stacks being applied from blackout grenades?

[mortal meadow]

THE SHOW CRACKHEADs, ARISE

[limber cradle]

Ive gotten 2 60 mobi melee weapons within 3 rolls but god forbid Brunt gives me 60 mobi autos that I actually want to upgrade

[spark gyro]

Are they faster than a zealot rat build?

[near vapor]

yes

[tender forge]

its a node in the bottom right party

[rose flax]

buff icon for blind grenade kills is not showing up in missions, works though

[remote eagle]

found it thanks

[near vapor]

one of the penances is bugged afaik

[vale garden]

Tread lightlies gang

[thorny ginkgo]

should i take this and just call it a day, 1% isn't anything

first try

[near relic]

1% is everything

You will be judged

Mercilessly.

[thorny ginkgo]

lmfao

[devout bison]

only thing that matters is if it makes a breakpoint difference

[near vapor]

aye bro. What set you representing?
What colors you flying?

[amber sundial]

little does he know 1% is needed for this hyper specific situation thats only applicable in havoc 40

[steep hatch]

oh my god

i'm crying and puking and throwing up

[wise sorrel]

if you want to lie awake at night feeling disappointed in yourself... yes.

[thorny ginkgo]

purple

[sturdy linden]

Doesn't even matter there 99.99% of the time tbh

[thorny ginkgo]

lollll

[near relic]

Breakpoints are a lie most of the time, at least in Havoc.

It's all madness

[thorny ginkgo]

do you guys always use crowbar in secondary mode?

[near vapor]

i mean youre still leveling so just use the best roll possible as you buy until level 30

[thorny ginkgo]

thanks

[near vapor]

only against mauler and crusher

to proc whatever that blessing called that applies brittle

[thorny ginkgo]

kk

[near vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-my-bling-bling-gucci-mane-dboy-style-flex-flexing-my-necklace-gif-22197682

^ the average Show gang members

[somber blade]

man can anyone explain to me how all armor sets got their own face paints but the orange one

[high gull]

Copped the gucci pants

[near vapor]

repping that green and gold

[somber blade]

we golden

[high gull]

Show stay reppin

[zenith pagoda]

Am I correct in saying the toxin from saw is bad against carapace, but works for unyielding?

[near vapor]

We up the Show in this house

[somber blade]

panther legs every day all day

[cunning rain]

Damn. He looks good but also really pissed

[near vapor]

eeeh its alright

[high gull]

Really selling that borderlands bandit look ain't it

[zenith pagoda]

Idk whether to take carapace or I unyielding

[cunning rain]

Borderlands bandit that realised he could just sell all the loot they kept in lockers and boxes

[near vapor]

take flak/elites/maniac for perks

[somber blade]

was gonna name my char Temu Psycho but settled on Krieg instead

[formal valley]

I do wonder how many people chose what cartel ngl

[somber blade]

iron gang

why? it was the first auto selected option

[steel axle]

i picked tread lightlies because the blue works with the braveheart look i'm going for

[spark gyro]

Which one is green and gold? Gotta rep those Australian colours

[near vapor]

Show

[turbid plover]

Do any of the ranged weapon blessings affect the tox grenade?

[somber blade]

man that some dark green almost looks dark grey

[near vapor]

dont believe so

[zenith pagoda]

Playing pubs rn is so shit

It's basically solo for me

[somber blade]

if you have 1 extra with you its playable

but ye some of the people you get today are lobotomy gaming

[stone knot]

[novel quest]

bonesaw + dual stub pistols feels great

oh neat

I plan on getting to lvl30 today

I'm lvl11 so far

so I think I have another

2-3 hours of grinding ahead

[formal valley]

same as my choice, The Show

[novel quest]

;-;

[near vapor]

i played for like 10 hours i think just leveling til 30

[novel quest]

I wish leveling was convenient and easy

[near vapor]

male outlaw my beloved

[novel quest]

I really hate most of the early game when I just wanna level my stuff

[spark gyro]

Now which voice sounds the most like a cracked out rat?

[formal valley]

male anarchist

[novel quest]

male anarchist

[hasty agate]

Hive scum are getting smashed to bits in heresy tonight lol

[formal valley]

he randomly pitches his voice while talking

[novel quest]

it's awesome

reminds me of borderlands psychos

[formal valley]

yup I love it

[cunning rain]

I’m glad my bounty Hunter had the personality I was looking for, his voice isn’t what I was wanting or expecting, but at least he acts like I wanted him to

[elder needle]

is there a known memory leak in this build?

i just got an out of memory crash

[novel quest]

I'm not sure

[true condor]

always has been

[thorny ginkgo]

bro crowbar is broken asf lmao

[novel quest]

my performance was really going to shit earlier

[solar pewter]

moo

[novel quest]

idk why but I can't make it work

[thorny ginkgo]

yea you have to close the game after like 3 hours

[novel quest]

I've just been running bonesaw

[iron patrol]

he kinda sorta almost sounds like trevor phillips

[thorny ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/0UqoWBxUXYM?si=5ULctVgLRkXpe6nk

his setup is crazy

[limber cradle]

I love all of the voices for scum tbh

Also I think Bounty Hunter is the first voice with a line to actually tell you how yo deal with poxbursters

[frigid thorn]

Are the stub pistols supposed to be really funky when using the special? I thought it was supposed to be like you spin it and the next shot is stronger, but it feels like I'm playing a mini game whre I have to time the shot lol

[cunning rain]

Kind of, I do hear it a bit, but like… kind of

[limber cradle]

They don't go "shoot it" they go "shove it and dodge" or so

[frigid thorn]

YES that one blew my mind, yelled to push it LOL

[steep hatch]

the stub pistol special is for long range sniping iirc, not for an especially stronger shot

[limber cradle]

I was genuinely amazed when I heard it

[frigid thorn]

Is it supposed to do the spin, turn the cross hair small, but then bloom again?

[steep hatch]

ye

gotta shoot while the crosshair is small

[cunning rain]

Within my first five minutes I heard an anarchist call out a heavy gunner on ‘compensating for something’ and knew I loved the gangers

[frigid thorn]

Ahhh ok, so it's a mini game kinda trick shot

[stone knot]

meanwhile every other classes when they see a pox buster : "SHOOT IT SHOOT IT"

[frigid thorn]

Smh hive scum op even tells people how to play the game

[frigid thorn]

Poxburster line update when

[cunning rain]

Do you think it’s the gangers being aware of the explosive potential a burster has against the enemy team? I.e. making enemy boom guy go boom on enemy

[stone knot]

purple is neat

even the mask is purple

ish

purple and dirty

[cunning rain]

I am going to try and work that coat into all the outfits I make, not that it’s a great design, but I just love a good coated character

[stone knot]

I just love coats tbh

[frigid thorn]

"cover them up, slut" meme.png

[uncut sphinx]

Pretty sure its an accuracy buff, you can snipe with it if your aim is good

[ebon violet]

Whats everyone picking for voice

I wanna do anarchist but i think thats whateveryone chose

[stone knot]

enjoy your last match while you're not a servitor

[limber cradle]

Lmfao

[ebon violet]

Options are anarchist outlaw and bounty hunter

[indigo fractal]

cant send images, but: live sg20 halt reaction

[limber cradle]

I went M BH

[ebon violet]

Whats that

[limber cradle]

Male Bounty Hunter

[ebon violet]

Have yall seen a lot of anarchist?

[cunning rain]

Male bounty Hunter

[ebon violet]

Oh

[cunning rain]

I’ve seen a fair bit, but it’s been a good mix so far

[limber cradle]

Feels even rn

[ebon violet]

Hmmm

Ill do anarchist

[left mirage]

mobility is still the dump stat right

[stark stone]

Crowbar feels very underwhelming, any tips to make this stupid thing work?

[stone knot]

I've tried BH, I just switched to anrachist just to see

[rare idol]

Shooting it is correct most of the time, letting bursters get close is risky af

[stark stone]

Got swarmed by crushers and couldn't dodge the karkers due to the dodge distance

[ebon violet]

My dudes a chemist/king von mixup

[frigid thorn]

I love Anarchist so far, i sound like a crackhead

[rare idol]

Pushing is deffo the last resort

[frigid thorn]

both the male and female anarchists are so good

I love the banter between the scum between all the voices too

[novel oracle]

dude i got instant declined

[ebon violet]

Whats a good 40k king von name

[novel oracle]

the fact that this title isnt orange is a death sentence

[frigid thorn]

outlaw and BH always looking sideways at the anarchist going "You're a little crazy man"

[stone knot]

imagine not being orange

[rare idol]

Orange you glad I didn’t say banana?

[lethal quartz]

Catfish wouldn't let us have red

[ebon violet]

Lol i wonder if theres walter white names

[lethal quartz]

[novel oracle]

ik but its literally uncolored lmfao

ok no they just dont want scum

putting on the ts was also an instant decline

[rare idol]

True Soul should be red 👌

[novel oracle]

they dont know that a proper ranged build is nigh immortal when used right

oh wait they dont have a psyker

theyre waiting for the purg staff to baby them

we NEEEEED bubble purg dood

havoc 30 is impossible without it dood

[frigid thorn]

Cole be like "Pathetic, look at my bare chest and you decline me? Foul."

[rare idol]

Hive scum the first class where I’ve been stacking reload speed 😂

[woven junco]

Yeah same

[novel oracle]

they must be gay
instant decline when they see this

[sturdy linden]

the reason I don't play Havoc is because I don't want to spend half my limited playtime applying to lobbies and getting declined

[frigid thorn]

Yet another unrealistic beauty standard for women

[woven junco]

Is there some way to dual wield bolt pistols?

[rare idol]

Random character generated a total babe for me 😂

[novel oracle]

its rough to start out for me cuz im rarely ever running the meta

[frigid thorn]

show your babe

[novel oracle]

hell people think scum are dogshit in havoc already just cuz of how fragile they felt while leveling

[north saddle]

Hiver at level 30

[frigid thorn]

what's more fragile, the scum or their ego

[arctic imp]

Some things feel really bad

[rare idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1444017590748975125/1445468874123382995/image.png?ex=6930754b&is=692f23cb&hm=4b473c0a20ef4ac01c249363ad0fdc419615241f78f4c1f6e2f6b450335fb7da&

[arctic imp]

But it may just be that they’re niche

[near mauve]

no man's land fucking slaps

a bit short tho

but slaps

[frigid thorn]

What the hell, rng was COOKING

[rare idol]

The amount of times I am the last person standing on NML is too damn high

[novel oracle]

they fucked up so bad with the broker customization options

like so so so bad

[frigid thorn]

is that the first ganger exclusive face

for female

[near mauve]

what's a broker

[tender roost]

how do I switch the crowbar attack mode?

[north saddle]

That was a tough grind

[novel oracle]

cuz who would ever want to use any other hairstyle than this

[zealous ravine]

😨 ?

[rare idol]

I touched nothin 😂

[zealous ravine]

oh god that the exact same color and style as mine

[novel oracle]

this hairstyle is too OP

its best in slot

[near mauve]

lmao its the only hairstyle i see

[zealous ravine]

its hecking over

[near mauve]

on both dudes and gals

[novel oracle]

destroyed the fashion meta

[near mauve]

crazy

does it even look good on dueds

[spark gyro]

Yes

[rare idol]

Hive scum showed up with the most OP weapon set of all: hair spray and a mirror

[frigid thorn]

I picked this tattoo becuase it put an anime waifu on my chest which I think will help scare the heretics away

[rare idol]

Hive some feels like melee psyker but wackier

[stiff trench]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-need-gif-21451408

[rare idol]

I love me double klobb gaming

[stiff trench]

Loving this class

[thorny ginkgo]

did he use certain talents to make his cooldown go from 75s to 44s?

[indigo fractal]

not even the grand father wants to touch that

[north saddle]

If psyker and zealot had a crack baby

[rare idol]

I named my girl Layla cuz she’s got em on their knees

For executions only ofc

[covert obsidian]

Is the prologue different for HiveScum? Curious

[thorny ginkgo]

can someone lmk

[rare idol]

I hit skip so hard it didn’t even have a chance to leave the black screen

[real dew]

Nice.

[spark gyro]

Nice

[frigid thorn]

Nice

[near vapor]

its literally supposed to be a sister

[indigo fractal]

mine is get-out-of-me-head cus fatshark didnt like tylenol-adict

[rare idol]

Sister of Booty

[cunning rain]

Even more reason for the heretics to be scared

[woven junco]

nice

[bold pumice]

What Rannick see down at the mission terminal hub

[rose flax]

kerillian?

[rare idol]

Should have gone with RoinRugs

[spark gyro]

Mine are Scum-Lut, Saint-Methelina and FntShark

[stiff trench]

Rannick is probably having a panic attack by now

[sharp dune]

anarchist is most popular, but the other voices are in no way sparce

[indigo fractal]

they stole hadrons eyes for the fourthy time, rannick

[frigid thorn]

Anime Waifu Sister

[cunning rain]

I love how the Arbites coming due to his incompetence shook rannick so much that he resorted to hiring criminals

[fathom schooner]

I FUCKING LOVE DRUGS

[rare idol]

Saint Methalina is great 😂

[hollow gate]

How strong is rocket launcher

[sharp dune]

man dont say that 😭

that dont sound too good

[frigid thorn]

based on how people normally draw the sisters of battle man.....

[north saddle]

Btw it took me 9 hours to get this class to Level 30

[rare idol]

I was getting chased by a carapace blob and some dude deleted it with a single rocket so after that I thought it was pretty good

[near vapor]

i think its cute

[sharp dune]

yeah that rocket is getting nerfed

[zealous ravine]

christ chemical dependency is annoying i keep forgetting to stimm

[hollow gate]

Think there may be a 5-15% Christmas discount for the dlc or too soon 😛

[wet heath]

Isn't he the one insisted on bringing gangers to war

[stiff trench]

You're not doing it right, pocket sand and shivs for the win

[drowsy relic]

Does the stim lab notification ever go away

[frigid thorn]

It is cute!

[sharp dune]

tho i suppose its not that bad actually

[stiff trench]

Blind em and jump on em

[hollow gate]

why nerf rocket :l?

[indigo fractal]

100% of 100%, good game

[frigid thorn]

I'm still dying at how we literaly have pocket sand as an ability

[tender marten]

pulled my first ganger clutch on damnation, what an awful class to clutch with lmao

[frigid thorn]

my only sadness is they went with a flash grenade instead of literal pocket sand

i hope there's a mod that replace it with actual pocket sand

[rare idol]

I got shivs and stuns because stuns are reaper off button

[sharp dune]

vet has krak grenades, which are weaker, but unlike hive scum they can recharge them really easily and spam them

we have to search for grenades

[cunning rain]

It would be funny, but like, so many helmet wearers

[near vapor]

i inject stimms into my body every 32 seconds (I am optimizing my performance)

[iron patrol]

scum rocket is balanced by the fact it takes a decade to pull that shit out and another decade of spamming the trigger as the pogryn charges at you

[indigo fractal]

i would do that, but some funny guy laced all of my stock

[frigid thorn]

Corrosive pocket sand

[cunning rain]

“Pocket sand!… shit.”

[frigid thorn]

ZE GOGGLES! THEY DO NOTHING!

[ebon violet]

Petition to add pocket fent to the chemtree

[frigid thorn]

yes

a little pocket fent

as a treat

[shadow umbra]

What blessings are yall using with the dual autos?

[cunning rain]

Hive gangers when the pogryn brushes past their pocket uranium powder

[shadow umbra]

I think blaze away and inspiring seem good

[frigid thorn]

blaze away and speedload I think?

[rose flax]

blessed stims sounds insane with 15 second cool down stim + sample collector lol

[cunning rain]

Only just made me realise that I’ve got 12 levels in knives and dual autos, and have not levelled up a single blessing yet

[rose flax]

Anyone test that already?

[lavish moss]

Hey guys, I think stimm supply is bugged.

[dusk wagon]

？

say it

[lavish moss]

It consumes the cocktail apon use of the combat ability

[dusk wagon]

Is it a medical kit?

[lavish moss]

no? its stim supply, the combat ability

[drifting heron]

Intended behavior

[lavish moss]

but you can use it when the stim is on cooldown

[drifting heron]

Yup

Also intended

[silent jetty]

if stim is available the ability will use the stim and apply the effects to your allies

[zealous basin]

any saw players what blessings you guys think is goo

[dusk wagon]

The medical kit will consume the fortifiers in your hands (those picked up on the map will consume them, and homemade ones will immediately enter the CD), and share the effects with the player and their teammates around them

[lavish moss]

thats a very bad nerf, in the early access it wasnt like that.

[shadow umbra]

also do i dump def or mobility on the crowbar?

[placid prairie]

Yeah it’s a known issue that it doesn’t say that it consumes the stim

[silent jetty]

dump defence

[drifting heron]

Yeah, it was busted as shit in playtesting so they nerfed it

[lavish moss]

it makes chem dependency terrible

man wait until they find out about the lex boy

[placid prairie]

I think you just need to get better at the class (we all do )

[lavish moss]

oh i dont use it, i use rampage

[placid prairie]

Im going for rampage too

[lavish moss]

Well thats unfortunate and dumb

[placid prairie]

Eh not really

[rose flax]

lol

[placid prairie]

You can still use da stim then pop the ability

Twice da stim baybee

[umbral fulcrum]

so how is everyone liking the class

[main wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/redblockcustom-man-no-arms-indian-arms-no-arms-man-standing-gif-17755513251794797743

Psykers be like

[rose flax]

Very fun, l;ike the elf careers from vermintide 2

[zealous ravine]

i am disappointed the class wasnt the void dragon we were promised...

[vale garden]

Yeah drop box, stim comes off CD, drop again

[placid prairie]

I have laughed at people using the skull rebreather, edgy name, and shivs, thinking they’ll be hot shit, then eat shit, die, and rage quit

[young herald]

If your stim is on cool down then all you get from the crate is the anti corruption effects

[main wagon]

I can’t wait to get home and play more HERESY PURGATORY

[sharp dune]

splendid

[main wagon]

Only need one game left

[near vapor]

its peak

[zealous ravine]

crackheads assemble!!!!!

[zealous ravine]

https://tenor.com/b1klY.gif

[placid prairie]

They are not true knife believers…

[main wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297199640931991648/1299942320753606737/crackbert3.gif

[zealous ravine]

crackheads we MUST raid the local hardware store

[main wagon]

I’m toxmaxXxing

[near vapor]

we up the Show in this mf
🟩

[vernal sluice]

Man this class fucking rocks so glad I bought the dlc

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/gang-signs-gif-3055302611998919140

[rose flax]

Good job, scumming to the finish

[stone knot]

I can now rest

[placid prairie]

And to think everyone was bitching and moaning about skitarii

[main wagon]

Ironically every low level scum I’ve seen wearing “Havoc Forged” has been a complete floor licker

[rare idol]

All the melee psykers be migrating 😂

[main wagon]

Poxbreaker has aura tho

[vernal sluice]

[placid prairie]

Exactly why I don’t use titles on classes until I prove to myself I can be good with them

[limber cradle]

Class is goated

[main wagon]

I use “Remembrancer” because purple is cool

All it means is that I fuckin love mortis trials

[rare idol]

You’re not wrong I keep having to scrape em off the floor

[stone knot]

I like poxbreaker cause it just means I like killing heretics

[placid prairie]

I like to use titles for harder difficulty stuff to reassure at least myself that I’m competent

[limber cradle]

This has also been true ime

[main wagon]

I’m almost to budding interrogator but I’m still only 3/4 the way to poxbreaker

[crimson moss]

can you blame us for the floor being so yummy

[hallow osprey]

I love emitting flame rings and shit!!

[sharp dune]

they did a great job on the weapon cosmetics

[limber cradle]

I imagine the havoc title floortanks are tithe rat mains

[sharp dune]

deluxe was very worth it

[rare idol]

Amazingly people whose primarily skill is standing still in a tight pack in havoc while the psyker holds right click have trouble adapting to the rest of the game 😂

[vernal sluice]

I don't think any other class comes close in the way hivescum rewards situational awareness and knowing the map, it really is goated

[rare idol]

I like the way the guns go brrr

[stone knot]

lvl 30 means melk gambling time

erh

[main wagon]

Mortis is how I think a lot of people who might not think they like Darktide would find they enjoy it if they could do a trial version

[rare idol]

Dual wielding klobbs go brrr

[limber cradle]

Scum feels like it rewards the skills I've gathered playing tide games since VT1 and it genuinely makes me so fuckin happy

[crimson moss]

scum feels like if the autopistol was actually rewarding to play

[rare idol]

The dodge slide distance perk is life changing

[zealous ravine]

no other class rewards hype moments and aura like hive scum

[main wagon]

It feels so WRONG gunning down the horde like a sedition player but with scum it’s actually viable

Autopistol with desperado go brrrr

[zealous ravine]

sedation gaming

[thorny ginkgo]

how long do stimm effects last at the base rate

[rare idol]

Both because it is a gateway to many powers some consider to be unnatural… and because at least some of those powers are yeeting me off ledges so far I hit the fuckin moon

[limber cradle]

Desperado my goat

[hallow osprey]

15 sec

[jovial raptor]

what are you guys using as dumpstats for dual autopistols and shivs?

[vernal sluice]

I might have the chops to play vt well after all if that is thencase 😏

[rare idol]

The obvious one

[iron patrol]

scum plays so close to vermintide combat its crazy, it has me actually side stepping n shit

[vernal sluice]

No reward for guessing correctly

[jovial raptor]

kk

[rare idol]

I played a ton of vt2 this weekend and I gotta say I disagree totally

[limber cradle]

If you like scum i think you'll really enjoy VT

[vast ferry]

holy shit the dual pistol is so ass

[worn gull]

I don't miss the VT ice skating I'll say that

[rare idol]

The standard pistols?

[iron patrol]

you gotta pull a saltzpyre and twirl them mfs for better damage

[rose flax]

holy shit I just realized, hive scum stam regen is exactly like hand maiden where you can push infinitely lol

[vast ferry]

the scum only dual eagle

[rare idol]

That’s sad they look cool

[near mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/thousand-sons-warhammer-40k-warhammer-thousand-sons-warhammer-40-thousand-sons-warhammer-40k-thousand-sons-gif-3911330265893084421

[rare idol]

Cool looking things should be good

[vast ferry]

the poison pistol on other hand is goated beyond belief

[rare idol]

Anyone try the big cleaver thing?

[vernal sluice]

I have been mainly using just the shivs and the akimbo colts

[zealous ravine]

how r da dual eagles bad they're crazy

[vast ferry]

yes, very nice

[iron patrol]

i love running 3x3 stamina curios and being perfectly justified

[sharp dune]

its deadass disconnecting me each time i try to play the game, middle of the match, and then it just sends me error after error whenever i try to recconnect, anyone else having this issue?

[limber cradle]

Tbh I went and started using tac axe and it feels great

[sharp dune]

its SPECIFICALLY on this class as well

[limber cradle]

Bro is getting arrested

[rare idol]

I’m planning to do deagles, cleaver and rocket launcher for the next setup

[iron patrol]

shivs are actually better than tac axe

[cunning rain]

You left too long of a chem trail I’m afraid

[vast ferry]

the small ass mag, the long reload, the inaccuracy

[limber cradle]

Tbh I believe you, I just do not like their anims

[vast ferry]

you get shat on by ranged chaff with that thing

[sharp dune]

im genuinely so confused

[sharp dune]

special pistol whip shot

[vernal sluice]

I've been enjoying shivs a ton

[cunning rain]

Shivs do have weird anims, but I’m stuck with them until I max out their masteries, thanks ocd

[near vapor]

it just dont have that much cleave is all

[limber cradle]

I maxed out the autos and tbh I cannot bring myself to put them down

I'm just runnin and gunnin

[vast ferry]

yeah I'll wait for 3 secs looking cool spinning that thing to get one acc shot off oh wait oops I just died 😂

[neon mango]

god i just do not see the vision with the crowbar

latch attacks just feel awful to use

[sharp dune]

it takes like half a second

[vast ferry]

takes longer than that for the reticle to zoom in

[rare heart]

wouldn't it be better to use stimm supply without any points in the stimm lab?

[vast ferry]

you can fire prematurely

[cunning rain]

They feel so fun, but I wanna be stylish gunslinger with my pistols once I’m done making them out, I mean, they match my character design better anyway

[sharp dune]

it really does not

[sharp dune]

then dont fire prematurely idk what to say 😭

bro finishes early

[vast ferry]

I didn't time it, but it's long relative given the flow of gameplay

also the screen "shakes" when you do that spin, which throws off your aim and defeats the entire purpose of the move

[sharp dune]

and if they are bad cause of spread, slap on a blessing to reduce it

the sprinting one reduces spread at all times, its good

same with a talent that reduces it

[limber cradle]

The twirl the stubs have is dead stylish and I love it, but sprinting forward with the macs is absolutely bonkers dopamine production. I feel like I'm playing Hotline Miami zipping around like an animal with automatics.

[placid prairie]

Absolutely lol. It’s made me very happy to see all my knife zealot gameplay paying off. I’m still going strong while everyone else is eating shit with the new class. Been a massive ego boost lol

[iron patrol]

i leaned so hard into attack speed shit looks like im just swinging my arms like a maniac when i hit the adrenaline+berzerk+stim with the more attack speed the more stamina you have talent on 9 extra stamina from curios and 2 on the shivs

[ivory root]

Skill issue tbh

[placid prairie]

Always mobility

[cunning rain]

I know! It’s great, but look at my boy. #hivescum-class message

He needs his pistols

[ivory root]

Just dodgeslide spinshoot the ranged

easy

[limber cradle]

I got to clutch a couple of games earlier while everyone else went down and it felt so fuckin good man, I clutched a Twins mission and I felt goated.

[vast ferry]

had to get a premade going because pubs were getting wiped left and right by ranged using that shitter gun

[placid prairie]

Dude clutching twins feels amazing

[vast ferry]

that's how bad it got

[rose flax]

trickster special on dual stubs is very buggy, animation is just gone if you use it too much

[limber cradle]

Yeah, I can see how pistols match more. Those holsters ain't fitting smgs.

I havent even bothered with cosmetics

I just keep queueing

Talent points were lucky if they got spent 1 by 1

[cunning rain]

I kept forgetting to spend my points

[iron patrol]

shit hits different when you can stand at a choke and just go ham while tanking 4 gunners on the other side

[cunning rain]

Took me seeing someone near the same level as me in my lobby having a different combat art for me to remember to level up

[limber cradle]

Sticking yourself into a doorway funnel with the smgs is so good feeling tbh, almost as good as plasma

[iron patrol]

nah im doin it with the shivs

on that +140% attack speed grindset

my ass evolved from a ganger scum to a fucking lawnmower

[sharp dune]

again, talent + blessing that reduces spread

[rare heart]

lol

[mortal meadow]

pistols just seem straightup stupidly OP and I love it

[sharp dune]

they are generous with the ammo which is nice

[cerulean ruin]

being immune to range gunners while spraying bullets is fun af

[hallow osprey]

What are you gonna do?
Shoot me?

[iron patrol]

the reduced effectives after 20 seconds is very vague

how much reduced

[steep hatch]

i think it's 100% rn

Cole mentioned something about submitting feedback for it to reduce by 10% or whatnot

[iron patrol]

like, straight halved the sustain or something

[vale garden]

I like to imagine its that anime thing where your bullets stop their bullets

[rose flax]

The reload is only long when your starting the just class, there's a 30% reload reduction talent and a blessing that helps a lot

[vale garden]

Oh man ranged immunity would make you the anti sniper gauntlet champ

[rose flax]

Even a talent for spread and blessing too(60% less spread, makes it much more accurate)

[mortal meadow]

oh yeah once you get into lvl30 autopistols are just a solid second choice

[iron patrol]

i know they made the sustain on the abilities fall off to make it end eventually but like, both either abilities woulda ended regardless of the reduced sustain or theres such a fuckload of enemies you physically cant run out, it makes no difference except for the medium hordes where it ends at like 80%

[rare idol]

Legit only class where I’m jonesing for more reload speed

[mortal meadow]

the only reason pistols are so fucking crazy is cause out of box they're damage is good as fuck

[rare idol]

How is their Cara performance?

Can they put down a crusher?

[iron patrol]

with enough bullets the answer is yes

[mortal meadow]

if you build them right you can, but as of rn no

[iron patrol]

its light blue so decent enough

[rare idol]

Eh

[vast ferry]

you joker

[mortal meadow]

im only level like idk

16

[vernal sluice]

Using them vs crushers is kind of a desperate move doe

[rare idol]

Im looking for og revolver can opening power 😂

[regal iris]

Is it just me or is stimm supply not healing corruption?

[cerulean ruin]

can confirm snipers cant dmg you while desperado, one time on a wide open bridge map there are multiple gunners and a sniper making advancement difficult, I ran head first into them popped my desperado and stim trying to hold their aggro on me and took a wall of bullets and sniper rounds for a full 20 seconds.

[vast ferry]

the only thing that can put down a crusher, and actually pretty good at it, is that poison dart pistol

super OP

[vernal sluice]

Hs doesnt seem to have any solid anti cara weapon

[rare idol]

I want to akimbo two pistols with desperado and gun down a wave of crushers

[iron patrol]

i cracked the fucking melee crackhead build, 140% attack speed shivs, bleed on non-weakspots and on crit so you just cosplay V1

[mortal meadow]

you can do it its just you gotta build it right

[rare idol]

Bleed on crit tho

You can stack a ton of crit

[iron patrol]

i legit drained like 8 crushers in a cluster of every drop of blood

[iron patrol]

i said both

[tidal coral]

Hows the rampage ability?

[rare idol]

I love that shiv has 3 poison dart

[rare idol]

Not riposte?

[zenith pagoda]

I've completed my build, I hope FS doesn't change things drastically tho

[bronze glade]

Very strong

[vast ferry]

the shiv darts also kills crushers, poison damage is insane right now

[rare idol]

I tend to prefer clicking heads and going for riposte + bleed on crit

[iron patrol]

you have enough base crit and crit talents, just go ham

[ruby path]

So, hows Hive scum feel

[tidal coral]

swag just about to use it rn one i was most excited for

[rare idol]

Never enough crit

[iron patrol]

you can get to 40% crit without riposte, just fucking bleed em dry

[cerulean ruin]

awesome, tho very squishy if you mess up on dodging

[hearty mango]

What voices are you guys using? I find it really hard to choose

[rare idol]

It’s good but you wait for a while on the crushers + I’m pretty sure some spots block the dart on them

[tulip magnet]

I already ran into someone with the same hair, face, moustache, and face paint combo as me

Full brother

[iron patrol]

i made trevor phillips so im using the top one

[random shuttle]

Outlaw

my play

is to make an old ganger

Old Codger

[iron patrol]

yea outlaw

[vast ferry]

I don't know about that, mods are disabled atm so I can't tell with the dot stacks, but nothing seems to block anything

[random shuttle]

Was with the gang for extremely long time for a Hive City Ganger

whole 10 years

he is 40 years old

so for Low Hiver, a grandpa

Venerable Ancient, really

[tulip magnet]

Forgot the name, middle one since I made a carney

[cunning rain]

Anarchist?

[iron patrol]

yeah the thrown dart applies DoT no matter what unless its a bulwarks shield

[tulip magnet]

ye

[undone arch]

What the, got the royal 76 from the first rank up gift

[hearty mango]

I was leaning more towards outlaw as well, I really like the gravelly voice

[neat musk]

lots of drops been 76's for me, maybe it's a bug?

[iron patrol]

dump the ammo

[tulip magnet]

same but it was blue

[rare idol]

I see some hit indicators without the green gas effect

[torpid marsh]

me too, prob rolls that for all?

[vast ferry]

might actually even go through the shield. I seem to remember a clip where streamer were hitting the shield with the dart pistol and poison goes through, same might apply to the dagger dart, could be wrong though

[undone arch]

I hope we get more 76s LMAO

[barren pebble]

why is male outlaw like 70 lmao

[iron patrol]

it deals the DoT without the shivs impact damage, it applies no matter what unless its a captain/bulwark shield

[hearty mango]

It's so funny

[barren pebble]

maybe male outlaw is 25 but their hab gets fumes from the manufactories

[flint granite]

This class is stupidly fun but man I am not expecting to take this into havoc LOL

[random shuttle]

Nah man, he is 28, but Hive Scum Diet would do that to your voice

the guy eats Lho-Sticks for breakfast.

[rose flax]

I feel like the close range relaod speed increase blessing and talent do not stack with each other at all

[iron patrol]

mine vapes meth

[cerulean ruin]

For the shiv, whats the dump stat? Is it mobility?

[rose flax]

should be a 70% boost, yet, i can still lose the blessing up time

[flint granite]

Yes

[random shuttle]

Remember - Imperium does not have OSHA.

[vast ferry]

point is, compared to your standard everyday ranged, say the bolt pistol, the 2 scum dual weapons sucks ass, but the poison pistol is inferno staff lvl OP

[random shuttle]

They might be multiplicative and not additive.

[hallow osprey]

My guy worked in a factory as a child and then roamed the wastes
That can't be good for the good ol vocal chords

[cerulean ruin]

got it, thx!

[bronze glade]

Yes

[tender roost]

What exactly does the special on the Stub Pistols do? The description is "A deft pistol-flourish which empowers the follow-up chained shot".

[undone arch]

So is hive scum as squishy as psyker? Or even squishier?

[random shuttle]

When they spin the gun your aim narrows and steadies until its pinpoint at any range.

[vast ferry]

it makes that one shot actually accurate 😏

[iron patrol]

doesnt it also give a fuck lot of finesse for the shot

[faint fossil]

feels even squishier than psyker

[iron patrol]

do i remember that wrong

[faint fossil]

even bosses were 1 or 2 hitting me

[ancient basin]

dont get hit, attack speed maxxing life

[silver elbow]

i've purchased about 50 dual autopistols and i can't find one with 60% mobility, is it bugged or somethign or what

[faint fossil]

yea that is actually the legit advice with the crackhead

lots of his nodes are for his dodge

[rose flax]

it does more damage if you time it, but mostly reduces spread until basicially non existant

[bronze glade]

Psykers not squishy lol

[faint fossil]

and to get bonuses from them

[random shuttle]

I don't think Scummo is squisher strictly speaking. I mean, he might be in general Tanking but he is also like crack-juiced on the Dodge Powder. He has like 100 dodge talents.

[rare heart]

the rocket blitz is so op on the bosses

[ancient basin]

less leniency on getting hit

[iron patrol]

oh you will die to 2 rager swings if you fuck up, you can also dodge backwards faster than they can swing and move so its pretty much a fight of chicken

[ancient basin]

lower toughness gen

[barren pebble]

psyker is squishy until you've got like 10 talents

[worn gull]

Psykers used to be squishy

[ancient basin]

out of combat

[cerulean ruin]

I bought 80, I got only a 62% mobility. Rngesus is a funny guy

[worn gull]

They might be the tankiest class now

[random shuttle]

Yeah. Scummo punishes you for getting hit hard but gives you shitload of things to NOT get hit.

[undone arch]

So maybe hive scum's kit is avoiding damage? So far the default ability does that

[near mauve]

who said the dualies suck

[silver elbow]

are we sure it's not bugged? 62% is the lowest i've seen and gotten so far too

[near mauve]

they're fun as fuck

[vast ferry]

also if you don't have this ranged chaffs will eat you for lunch even in Heresy

[faint fossil]

yea he just pays a bigger price uppon getting hit witch makes sense considering he is built around dodging

[bronze glade]

Prob not tankier than ogryn but yeah they’re stupidly tanky

[vast ferry]

it's that bad

[jaunty coral]

damn new daggers kind of suck against armor huh?

[near mauve]

meta brains headass

[random shuttle]

ou have talents that let you avoid melee damage, avoid ranged damage, avoid damage like crazy 😄

[faint fossil]

dude without this node a single gunner was nuking my ass

like anything ranged

[iron patrol]

use the one next to it too, covers this ones weakness

[faint fossil]

just destroying me

[zealous ravine]

is this build goofy for bonesaw gaming or naw

[undone arch]

I haven't played Psyker in a long-ass time, so I guess I should pick up the updated psyker

[rose flax]

If the ogyrn has no stamina, the psyker will live longer

[cerulean ruin]

I cant say for sure 😔

[undone arch]

If you're saying psyker is tankier

[faint fossil]

i picked it up after not playing it for a while

[near mauve]

bro players are so bitchmade they die insta and leave

[iron patrol]

bleed, put bleed on them, you can vampire suck a crusher to death before it can finish a overhead

[near mauve]

6 fucking leavers not even halfway

[faint fossil]

melee psyker is stupidly tanky

[vernal sluice]

Brunt isn't bugged yer just unlucky

[vast ferry]

yeah this is pretty good too

[faint fossil]

i was face tanking bosses

[jaunty coral]

so uncanny + bleed build?

[faint fossil]

like if i was a ogryn

[vast ferry]

but point is you don't spec those you gonna get rekt

[rose flax]

10 secoind cooldown, veteran has 20 lol

[iron patrol]

nah, crit bleed and non-weak hit bleed, double up on that shit you can stack ungodly amount of bleed

[silver elbow]

jeeez...

[thin crag]

this any good?

[stone knot]

I mean who needs ammo

[jaunty coral]

lol i think thats probs bad but word, think uncanny is needed personally

[tulip magnet]

i had 2 perfect rolls in a row

[jaunty coral]

but the nerfed uncanny feels meh

[zealous ravine]

uh its been working quite well

[limber cradle]

tbh with how pickpocket is, like

i dont think this is the most insane thing ever ig

[stone knot]

Yeah ikr

[limber cradle]

i do prefer bigger mag for blaze away tho

[random shuttle]

Float Like a Butterfly is a great talent

[thin crag]

do you run shock and awe on your saw?

[zealous ravine]

shock and awe + shred rn

[limber cradle]

which one is that?

[random shuttle]

Perfect Blocks and Successful Dodges grant +20% Critical Strike Chance for 3s.

[limber cradle]

yeah, goated

[stone knot]

mandatory

[limber cradle]

its scum reciprocity

[stone knot]

for every build haha

[rare idol]

I am, I play all kinds of wacky stuff in havoc cuz it’s a game. Once you get the titles and unlocks what’s the point of havoc except to have fun 😂

[rose flax]

hive scum has a ton of crit chance + his base 10%

amazing talent

[rare idol]

I feel bad for the people still grinding it for TS or whatever tho

[iron patrol]

you have uncanny in a talent at the top of the tree already tbh, really depends on consistency between the 40% and 55%

[flint granite]

idgaf about ts I'll just get it eventually if I play good enough

[random shuttle]

I really like Hive City Brawler too. Very fun design for a talent.

[iron patrol]

10% base, 5 on gun, 5 on node, 20 on butterfly

thats the vet crit

[ancient basin]

you can get to around 50% easy in the talent tree

before the chem dependency node

[iron patrol]

if you are feeling a bit goofy you can go all in with the right side 20% more crit

[ancient basin]

which takes it up to 65%

[shadow umbra]

i cant lie this class is hard as balls
ive been dying to weak shit like poxwalkers and it hurts

[rose flax]

bleed for dayz

[short oar]

Can their special unique stimm give crit too?

[simple oyster]

Wondering if any variant of the stim crate build is actually worth it tbh.
Feels like you give up a lot of survivability for it.

[iron patrol]

yea 15% from that too if you pop it

[bronze glade]

It’s def pretttty bad rn

[rare idol]

It’s very doable but it helps to have a regular group and specifically go for it imo

[short oar]

So a crit build is insane on them

[rose flax]

lol poxwalkers aren't weak at all, you aren't supposed to tank them, you push them

[simple oyster]

the range on the crate is also tiiiiny.

[faint fossil]

i know its most than likely not the class in my case just that in my 800 hours playing like 600 of those are ogryn gameplay so i legit can't get used to being made of paper

[worn gull]

Does stim crate replenish toughness if you have the 'replenish toughness' stim effect?

[random shuttle]

Also if gunners wreck your shit

just use Like the Wind talent

[iron patrol]

you can get like, what? 85-90% crit chance?

[random shuttle]

+15 Sprint Dodge Angle. In addition, Sprint Dodging is available even when Stamina is depleted.

[cerulean ruin]

it should, its a copy of your current stim

[rare idol]

There are so many good mobility traits

[iron patrol]

i still dont grasp what sprint dodging angle is

[flint granite]

Yeah the fact I don't have a regular group to play with is why I don't care for going for it rn

[short oar]

And then any blessings that give crit on your weapons

[iron patrol]

im including those

[bronze glade]

Just slide 😭

[shadow umbra]

ive been playing psyker for most of my 700 hours and jesus

this HURTS

[simple oyster]

Zorona build might also be funny with how you can get 120% bonus reload speed in total.

[vast ferry]

or just use the super duper OP poison pistol, whose only usable blessings also happen to be ranged immunities 😏

[iron patrol]

this explains nothin to me kerfus, you gotta tell me what the fuck sprint dodging is

[rose flax]

You know it's weird, I aqctually am way more defensive playing as an ogryn than other classes lol

[random shuttle]

Oh.

Okay so.

If you sprint AND have stamina

[thorny ginkgo]

psyker supremacy

[random shuttle]

all ranged attacks will automatically miss you

[uncut niche]

So, here’s my opinions on the hive scum weapons

Shiv’s: Blender with a Chem-tox strapped onto it
Crowbar: Decent but fun to use
Bonesaw: better crowbar, has Chem toxin strapped to it

Dual SMG’s: Run and gun shredder. They go hard
Dual Stub Pistols: Average British geezers m1911’s. Essentially the Revolver but better
Needle pistol: Chem toxin, my beloved

[random shuttle]

but only if you spring at a correct Angle as shown

[rare idol]

I got it with pugs back when but it’s much more organized now. Psyker chat has some regulars who go out for it pretty often tho

[inner void]

Does the cooldown reduction stim affect itself?

[iron patrol]

OH WAIT THAT SHIT THEY TELL YOU TO DO AGAINST GUNNERS THATS FUCKING STUPID AS FUCK COMPARED TO JUST SLIDING AT THEM???

[rose flax]

It's not literaly dodging, just not taking damage if in angle(similar to your inner and outer block angles, where outer makes you take more stamina damage, inner is reduced)

[random shuttle]

Well

[vast ferry]

if you run AT them you still gonna get rekt

you have to slide

[bronze glade]

No

[random shuttle]

Sprint Dodge being enabled at 0 Stam is goated

[iron patrol]

ive been just slide spamming at ranged shit so long i forgot sprint dodging was a fucking thing

[uncut niche]

Did I get decent thoughts on the Scum weapons?

[random shuttle]

Another superb defensive talent we got on Scummo

Nimble ❤️

love my nimble

[spiral horizon]

so is everyone getting skill checked on the new class?

[crude swallow]

i am kinda confused. is there one type of shivs or two?

[flint granite]

Regardless I don't think this is the class I'll try for it on LOL, way too paper thin

[rare idol]

Too early to say imo

[flint granite]

Yeah

[rose flax]

more nimble than an elf lol

[uncut niche]

I’m used to melee tanking. Now I’m having to melee dodge with shivs

[iron patrol]

do people actually use sprint dodging????????

[random shuttle]

What, class's great, super kinetic

[cunning rain]

Two marks of the same item yeah

[iron patrol]

like, intentionally???

[random shuttle]

Yerp, I do,

[vast ferry]

you don't have to put it like that..

[bronze glade]

There are two marks

[simple oyster]

Both of the dual weapons seem excellent.
Crowbar is a nice crutch as it just hard staggers crushers on alt mode heavies.

[inner void]

Does "by accident" count?

[tulip magnet]

opposite of arbi launch

[faint fossil]

im very agressive as a ogryn cause i can just take the damage

and its very forgiving

[rare idol]

It feels like og meleeker before the durability buffs so I’ve been doing great 😂

[random shuttle]

By Accident everyone is using sprint dodging a lot every game

[uncut niche]

Seriously tho the corkscrew shiv’s are like, extremely good at clearing crowds

[faint fossil]

yea my ogryn brain is getting checked

[worn gull]

I played Psyker back when it was made of tissue paper, I'll get back in the habit

[uncut niche]

Their heavy speed is good

[worn gull]

Getting rekd right now though

[simple oyster]

You kinda just need to kill everything quick or die.
The cooldowns feel brutal.

[spiral horizon]

yeah just a lot of peeps not used to being mortal

[inner void]

Pretty sure that's how I got it on whichever class it is that has a penance for it

[simple oyster]

But outside of that the DPS is very funny.

[rare idol]

You can take drugs for that

[uncut niche]

Dude I play FGS blender Psyker

I’m getting checked HARD

[random shuttle]

I think people also play with new toys and they get checked by that

but for example

[iron patrol]

i deleted the sprint dodging out of my head so long ago cause legitimately sliding has no angles, just fucking slide spam and you are immune to that shit

[random shuttle]

try Scum with Revolver + Combat Axe 😄

Killer machine

[faint fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[simple oyster]

Wondering if it's just optimal to only have the cooldown talents on your stim so you have lower stim cooldown.

[rare idol]

I take a melee drug for more attack speed and rending but I’m tempted to take the CDR one

I want the drug cooldown low so I can spam it

[uncut niche]

So max volume should be like…what, 60?

[vale garden]

Im thinking of running the strength stim and the stim cool down effect to run on rampage

[cunning rain]

https://tenor.com/view/jacob-keep-your-shirt-on-shirtless-hot-no-gif-19077104

[iron patrol]

???? you do know the cooldown talents on the cartel tree doesnt reduce stim cooldown but makes it a celerity stimm, right?

[inner void]

I was just informed it doesn't affect itself

[simple oyster]

the LESS you put on your stim, the LOWER the COOLDOWN

[uncut niche]

wtf do clerity stuns even do

[tulip magnet]

if i max cooldown stim and drop the stimpack how often can you drop it?

[uncut niche]

Stims*

[simple oyster]

because of the viscosity mechanic

[inner void]

Infinite sprint/stamina p much

[stone knot]

AFAIK only that talent lowers the stimm CDR

and it's not great

[rose flax]

cdr does not affect stim, only way to reduce it is with sample collector

[uncut niche]

Oh that’s good

[simple oyster]

oh my god I'll take a screenshot sec

[vale garden]

If you just take strength its a 45s cd and if you take the stim cd reduction youre gonna be popping it probably every 30s which is also rampages cooldown

So just permanent stim in combat lol

[random shuttle]

Blue stim also affects ROF

[iron patrol]

gamer i know this please read further than 4 letters

[rare idol]

Keeping it low effect keeps the cooldown low

[inner void]

which lets you use the floor stimpack more often if you have the boosted version

[brittle sierra]

which voice goes best with a "joker" themed scum? 🤔

[vale garden]

A yellow stim build might be good for ranged build tho

[rare idol]

Which is why I’m gonna go either melee or CDR not both

[stone knot]

but yeah a full CDR focused stimm is 44s

[simple oyster]

But yeah I feel like just taking only cooldown stim effects so you have CDR more often is probably ideal for gun/melee builds.

[cunning rain]

Did you mean concentration stim?

[rose flax]

Oh, I thought when you said you were using CDR, you meant that

[inner void]

This is pretty amazing with a low CD lab stim

[tulip magnet]

If you don't build a stimm, but pickup a stimm in the level, will Stimm Supply use that effect?

[inner void]

I can't post images. Wonderful

[iron patrol]

it does encourage filling out the tree atleast, each kill shaves a second ish at max

[zenith pagoda]

Is it? It doesn't fully recharge my rampage

[random shuttle]

Also

[stone knot]

I meant that

[random shuttle]

Sticky Hands good with Bazooka 😄

[simple oyster]

wondering if this would be very funny with cooldown stims found in the mission xD

[stone knot]

bazooka bad

[faint fossil]

anarchist

[zenith pagoda]

Yeah I'm using that

[stone knot]

(but funny)

[random shuttle]

I like Bazooka

😄

[inner void]

it also consumes the stim though :(

[faint fossil]

anarchist is just temu joker

[simple oyster]

noooo

[brittle sierra]

ur mom

[zenith pagoda]

Well the bottom node

[stone knot]

temu junkrat I'd say

[obsidian crown]

Do you pop the stim after ability is done?

[stone knot]

yes

[faint fossil]

fitting

[obsidian crown]

Kk

[faint fossil]

not lying tho

[covert obsidian]

Is it just me or do Shivs suck at Carapace clear if you don't have Uncanny

[inner void]

I like the lingering 15s option, I just chose that but haven't used it yet

[amber sundial]

hey guys do ya like my shiv its definitelymeta 🔥

[rare idol]

I’ve been doing stun nade for reaper off button but zook calls me

[iron patrol]

i am too lazy to see if this makes a medicrate with a med stimm heal full wounds or not

[stone knot]

the CD on the ability does not recharge during the ability itself, so yeah you have to take it afterward

[tulip magnet]

Practised deployement + 15sec stimm = ability spam?

[obsidian crown]

This will work well with desperado right?

[stone knot]

yes

[random shuttle]

I am a simple man

Big Boom Makes Happy

[simple oyster]

I mean yeah, but your stim crate will be very sad xD

[rare idol]

Stun nade also yeets crushers which is great for saving teammates instantly

[tulip magnet]

i guess it's just corruption tho

[main wagon]

Curious to try raw CD stim

[simple oyster]

good way to get a lot of explosions ig

[iron patrol]

bleed

[rose flax]

lol

[rare idol]

Stun nade does nothing to bosses tho 😭

[simple oyster]

And angry martyrdom zealots..

[tulip magnet]

oh yeah, you could make it a 15 second cd mine lol

[inner void]

it would still heal the 40 Corruption though which might have niche uses

[main wagon]

Does scum get bistol? Can we lethal prox it?

[amber sundial]

i forget does stim crate heal past wounds for corruption or is that only blessed stims

[inner void]

Maybe that medcrate spam would be useful on pox gas maps

[zenith pagoda]

Oh you mean the cooldown of the stim? I meant the cooldown of ability

[main wagon]

I didn’t pay attention to the masteries when I was playing this morning I just know we have mostly kinetics