hivescum-class

[eternal ibex]

me being dumb and not even realising it affected that

[worn oar]

Maybe scattershot?

[somber blade]

golden boy 🙏

[main wagon]

(ur prolly right I just haven’t been paying close attention)

[stone knot]

ho, is that what's happening ? cause I felt someting weird

[main wagon]

I was so tired waking up early to play scum

[rose flax]

Does it actually affect the rocket?

[stone knot]

when I slide

[tender marten]

yea

weapon swap has always affected everything (blitz, stim, kits, yaddayadda)

[rose flax]

Gunho

[compact oyster]

dodging is bugged in some way

[eternal ibex]

what the hell

[compact oyster]

it def feels like it

[main wagon]

I wish we could speed up taking our fucking stim because the delay got me killed lol

[rose flax]

How so?

[wild anchor]

How are the voice lines? Good/bad?

[rough zephyr]

CHEM GRENADE BAM AND THE HERETIC AND 90% OF THE PAINT ON THE WALL IS GONE

[compact oyster]

you get hit despite clearly dodging and using the active iframes

[tender marten]

JUST ANOTHER DAY IN THE BIG T

[somber blade]

irish male and australian male are good

[main wagon]

I’m actually impressed with how disgustingly good the Chem nade is

[limber cradle]

I genuinely love the Scum personalities, they have an air of actually liking eachother which is great.

[main wagon]

I thought Blackout + the talent was going to be a better chem nade

[hardy maple]

I love my new kitchen gun ass class

[tender marten]

at least injecting is just one button press instead of equip + stick

[timid vine]

anyone up for levelling the class? actual long-time players only, please - tired of malicelet randoms, DM me

[main wagon]

This actually infuriates me

[glass apex]

But chemnade makes the floor sparkle

[tender marten]

it trips me up too lmao

[main wagon]

I want to play with my stim and jerk it in the elevator

[tender marten]

SAME

let me beat it with my homies

[main wagon]

I also accidentally trigger it

Because I’m a fool

My fingers keep pushing buttons

[coral citrus]

Absolutely every HS I played with today had Anarchist voice

[rough zephyr]

THE NEW RECIPE REALLY GETS THE STAINS AND THE STENCH OF HERESY OUT

[frigid thorn]

Accidentally blew a ton of money on weapons on brunts, forgot 60's come easier at max level lol

[rough zephyr]

But yeah chem grenade is good

[main wagon]

I want to love the rocket

[analog gull]

i only just got home from work so im behind :c

[worn gull]

I might switch to the raspy-ass scottish voice

[main wagon]

But fuck dude I hate being a slave to ammo boxes

This is big boomba Ogryn all over again

[glass apex]

Imma be honest the iron dome headgear is friggin naaastyyy

[main wagon]

Can’t wait until I get the third rocket from the bottom right

[plush cove]

i'm still unsure whether Needle Gun is supposed to be doing 500-600DoT+ on Crushers and stuff lol

like damn

[rose flax]

I haven't felt like that, but I do know something is wrong with enemies taking out melee, I have to stand right next to them for them to go into melee

[spark gyro]

does anyone know if the attack speed based on stamina change with increased stamina?

[quartz hearth]

Why do the Shivs have a max dodge count of "5" if you can't actually get up to 5 dodges even with an 80% mobility roll?

[worn gull]

The chem toxin DoT is getting nerfed soon

There's no way it's not lmao

[vast plover]

we back in the heresy damnation purgutory

[rose flax]

It should, it's based off current stamina

[somber blade]

wtf why can we dual wield these weapons

[vast plover]

what i'd advise everyone to do if they have extra plasteel is just max all your weapon mastery

just get it over with

[rose flax]

Wait what? But you can on other 5 dodge weapons

[main wagon]

Ahhh classic “character in skill tree using shit we don’t have” Fatshark

See: Veteran

Imagine dual wielding hsword and cleaver tho holy fuck

[somber blade]

would be fat

[main wagon]

Special is just swapping hands

[limber cradle]

The aesthetic on that would be incredible tbh

[rough zephyr]

Meanwhile the Rick Sanchez clone ganger in the chemical section

[zenith pagoda]

The tradeoff is the time to kill

A crusher could kill your teammate in that time

[tender marten]

how unfortunate for my teammate

[rose flax]

Much better than how the sword and axe works in vermintide 2

[knotty cipher]

once again heresy is the hardest difficulty in the game

[quartz hearth]

Yeah, I'm mad about it.

[main wagon]

My friend asked why heresy seemed so much worse

[glass apex]

What gang you chose

[glass apex]

More noobs

[somber blade]

i did damnation with a lvl 11 today, pure experience that

[main wagon]

I explained it’s when shit starts to get real and if you didn’t develop gamesense in malice, it’ll show fast

[zenith pagoda]

Iron runner gang I think

[somber blade]

bro did nothing but collect plasteel

[main wagon]

Enemy HP jumps, damage hurts more, you lose the wound training wheels

[sturdy marsh]

I'm really digging the bonesaw

[glass apex]

I went with the show cause carneval

[zenith pagoda]

You digging in me

[glass apex]

BONESAW IS REA-DYYYY

[zenith pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-king-yes-king-edit-yes-king-edit-gif-14064864004084172243

[rose flax]

I still hate that stats are based off 100% yet we still have no indication of when we will even see 100

[glass apex]

https://tenor.com/view/bonesaw-is-ready-randy-savage-gif-5299435

[somber blade]

ngl tho this knife slaps

[zenith pagoda]

Lacerate

[main wagon]

Woof

[somber blade]

trust bro full bleed build

[glass apex]

Dang you trynna get friendly with the BLOOD GOD??

[main wagon]

That’s certainly one of the knives in the armory

[zenith pagoda]

It's pointless you should be aiming for weakspots

[rose flax]

Base 10% crit Chance by the way just like veteran

[vast plover]

cuz power level / item stats

[inland mist]

Is there no indicator for if your personal stim is ready?

[analog saddle]

chem dependency penance bugged for anyone else?

[twilit canyon]

thoughts on forges bellow??

[latent belfry]

Flesh tearer is actually a loyalist blood angels successor so it's not heresy

[plush cove]

TTK? I mean if you said ammo then I'd get it but TTK??? This thing more or less has probably one of the best, borderline best TTK on CRUSHERS, even Rotten Armor in the game lowkey. And I'm using a shitty needle gun lol (this is H40 modifier)

[glass apex]

The cooldown timer is super dim, like it has a cooldown that ends at the bottom but it weird

[rose flax]

Basically none
It's a grey bar on the slot

[zealous ravine]

i mean its a nice forge upgrade

[quartz hearth]

Games lantern has 75 mobility being 4.5 dodges which I think should round up to 5. Maybe 76 mobility at 4.52 dodges should. But it's ridiculous that we can't get 5 dodges at all.

[glass apex]

https://tenor.com/view/macho-man-bonesaw-oooh-yeah-spiderman-gif-13421609

[main wagon]

I can’t wait for the mod that gives our stim a microwave ding when it’s off CD

[novel oracle]

It'll flash when it's finished recharging

But only the moment it does

[vale garden]

Does stim supply trigger dependency?

[twilit canyon]

spamm the keybind button, if it activates is ready, if it doesnt, it isnt

[somber blade]

half the hits with mk3 on weakspots do around 30 damage while chest hits on maulers and such do 300+ i dont mind a free bleed then

[plush cove]

@novel oracle just curious, since ur one of the testers of Hive Scum, was uh...the needle gun like perfect to you guys? Like overall

[main wagon]

Me with desperado when it’s 97%

[latent belfry]

Cole I'm using your rampage build, does crowbar work with it or do you recommend another build style for it

[novel oracle]

Which one there's like, 3?

[latent belfry]

Uhhh

The crit taxe one?

Idk

[glass apex]

What is this desperado

[quaint iris]

I can't get hive scum today sadly

[latent belfry]

I'm not at my pc

[twilit canyon]

bros getting edged

[hallow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-cooked-hes-cooked-you're-cooked-ur-cooked-gif-16603214519610947661

[glass apex]

Ohhh cole made builds

Nice nice

[novel oracle]

From what I recall yes
It eats a lot of ammo.
But deals large total damage
And you still have to wait for all that damage to happen

[quaint iris]

What

[twilit canyon]

cant scum

[plush cove]

Also, I wonder why Needle gun's toxin DoT goes up to like 500-600+, but chem nades only like 140-150ish?

isnt there like a max stack?

[woeful trellis]

oh, god, no... not blight spreads again

[dreamy rover]

Opinions on the bonesaw weapon?

[main wagon]

Just another day in the

BIG T

[novel oracle]

I need to edit my crowbar one
And add a heavy sword one

[twilit canyon]

it cool

[woeful trellis]

chem nades can only apply 6 stacks

you can get up to 30 with needler

[mystic rain]

sad i want class but no money

cant get crack

[amber sundial]

you can still be supplied crack

[dreamy rover]

Bonesaw has a nasty backstab

[amber sundial]

not all is lost

[livid raven]

ungodly slow

[novel oracle]

Can they do the only talks in source with a cap
6 stacks

Holy fuck you speech to text

[sturdy marsh]

I really should have practiced the game. I haven't played in like a month before today and now I'm getting my ass kicked playing ganger

[granite heron]

This shit is hilarious

[plush cove]

ah i see

[glass apex]

https://tenor.com/view/bonesaw-is-ready-spiderman-spider-gif-20453153

[novel oracle]

That was the plan

[amber sundial]

hey at least you'll learn since your squish af

[twilit canyon]

literally unplayable

[novel oracle]

Was saying chem bombs

[unkempt salmon]

Did they change the stat RNG of Brunt's Armory? I've been spamming shivs and haven't gotten a single 60% stat

[limber cradle]

New Vegas ahh neck seam

[plush cove]

I suppose it's not the best at horde-clear, but still lol, the TTK is still pretty insane, it basically IGNORES Rotten Armor.

[sturdy marsh]

It reminds me of trying Melee psyker for the first time. Before the most recent rework

[stone knot]

me who never used anarchirst yet

[somber blade]

everyone badass until that rager or mauler hits from the back

[main wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-b-jordan-come-here-come-over-here-here-gif-12325634

[plush cove]

Gunners in H40 die in 1-2s in 1-2 shots lol, but ig that's the same for Bolter Puncture too

[crude matrix]

gamble harder problem solved

[somber blade]

you never ulted early on?

[stone knot]

oh wait

nah I'm duumb

is ok

[novel oracle]

Needlepistol is like the only weapon that realistically gets close to that cap in normal situations, not that you need to but still
Fast crit weapons or the saw are the only other way you can realistically do that and only when 1v1ing a boss tbh

[livid raven]

turns out that this + pickpocket makes for an effective build

[candid flare]

If your character is anything other than lvl 30 you're wasting dockets.

[quaint iris]

No hive scum today

[light phoenix]

Question

Is there a place to see the deluxe cosmetics of Hive Scum? I wanna see if they're worth

[stone knot]

in game

or litteraly on the store page

[twilit canyon]

the dlc page

[twilit smelt]

Where is this new event?

[twilit canyon]

dec 4th

[plush cove]

also gotta wonder, did you guys take into account Immolation Grenade? Cuz afaik, it's BASICALLY just a better Immolation grenade, but I guess the blitz themselves arent the only factor.

[main wagon]

Tbh Only buy it if you really want the coat it comes with

Scum gets several unique new hairstyles

The one with deluxe is a scam

[ruby token]

is loose formation bugged?

[plush cove]

Chem nade is basically the immolation grenade that lasts longer + anti-armor, so I'm a bit curious on that.

[stone knot]

I wonder how valuable is that talent. It sounds bloody amazing, but, realistically, would it proc that often

[twilit canyon]

i like deluxe for the outfit

[waxen jolt]

I'm using it it doesnt do much because by the time I'm reloading I'm getting swarmed so I gotta switch to melee I'm still struggling with this class

[plush cove]

then again, hive scum is a glass cannon

[arctic imp]

What are we running on da crowbar? My biggest issue with hive scum so far is the lack of stagger on things like ragers and gunners

[main wagon]

I like deluxe for the hazard tape

[twilit canyon]

as often as you crit

[main wagon]

But fuck man I didn’t expect the hairstyles to be so good

[crude matrix]

you do crit a lot tbf

[main wagon]

Arbites got ONE

[somber blade]

it explodes 24/7 from personal experience, running normal damnations atm

[novel oracle]

we are aware of that tbh

[stone knot]

I mean it needs a crit and a double damage compared to the enemy health

I need more talent points.

[twilit canyon]

a crit pretty much guarantees that it procs unless your weapon has 10% dmg

[patent bone]

I fucking LOVE this update!!

[novel oracle]

iirc the immos are a wider area and deal more unyielding damage but yes i think the chem nade is just better and thats just how it shaped up

[main wagon]

It does a lot better with both nodes and the +30% reload after close kill talent up top. You can gun down chaff and extend your desperado and when you reload it costs nothing

Without yeah you can only JUST squeeze in two reloads

[arctic imp]

highest base crit in the game

[waxen jolt]

Even if so I'm not gonna reload when a mauler is ontop off me

[arctic imp]

you should

[livid raven]

you will actually

[main wagon]

Shoot him in the chest dawg

[rustic osprey]

Hive scum seems pretty squishy to me, do you guys feel the same?

[main wagon]

Wyd

[lethal quartz]

Ran out of time, I privately suggested more things to devs to make immo on par, we’ll see in hotfix/later on

[dreamy rover]

I think they are suppose to be

[twilit canyon]

is a glass cannon

[waxen jolt]

Shoot him with an empty gun yeah makes sense

[livid raven]

it's going to be better when they fix dual autogun not receiving the reload speed bonuses

[tender marten]

Desperado could use a buff so that reloads that are started during the ult but complete after the ult ends still won't consume ammo.

[compact oyster]

all glass no cannon

[novel oracle]

can you forward them to me? curious

[main wagon]

Desperado reloads your gun when you activate it

[wild anchor]

I won't use that then lol

[worn gull]

It's the starting weapons, anything with no cleave is technical and squishy.

[novel oracle]

thats the intention

[worn gull]

Chem build feels really strong, and I'm only level 20

[plush cove]

from my testing so far, it's a VERY SMALL difference in radius from what I've seen, and I suppose given immo's duration, it does deal higher Unyieldign dmg, but at the end they both deal more or less the same total unyielding dmg.

What exactly is the difference in radius? Cuz if you didnt tell me I'd think they're ltierally the same radius.

[novel oracle]

big damage dealt
big damage taken

[twilit canyon]

^

[stone knot]

I'd love that helmet with some goggles on, it looks weird without

[main wagon]

If you run into a mauler at the end while your gun is empty and your talent hasn’t proc’d then yeah, you’re boned lol

[livid raven]

Hey cole, what perks and blessings do you run on your shivs and autopistols

[rose flax]

But we can, just for some reason not on shivs

[main wagon]

But that’s very easy to avoid by just walking away with your 900% movement speed

[novel oracle]

i may be recalling incorrectly tbh

[livid raven]

and is uncanny strike still worth it like this

[rustic osprey]

Well, i died a few times by being overrun by a horde or mauled by a gunner, too many times for comfort

[novel oracle]

autpostols blaze away speedload
shivs work with any good knife combo like before, but im running uncanny and precog cuz its just consistent

[compact oyster]

i also wanna shoutout this part of the tree for being useless

[devout bison]

Is the prologue different for the hivescum?

[twilit canyon]

ish

yes

[waxen jolt]

I meant during the desperado and before I shoot before then activate it then I shoot again but the by the time I'm reloading I'm swarmed so I switch to melee but melee isnt enough I dunno this class just feels like its made out off glass and its fighting about every bull on a farm

[livid raven]

i hear reload speed bonuses are bugged for autopistols right now

[twilit canyon]

were not really "rejects"

[patent bone]

Oh yeah, but that's kinda the point tbh. We're NOT like Zealots who can tank hits and have crazy protection

[novel oracle]

that was in the media build
was fixed the day before embargo

[worn gull]

I really wish the vanguard heavy shiv mk didn't go from push attack to an assassin heavy

Kind of ruins the weapon for me

[near mauve]

beat my first mission
0 downs on malice!
im a gamer god

[livid raven]

ehrm

[sturdy linden]

you jest but I've seen it happen

it's funny

[livid raven]

malice doesn't exist anymore

[twilit canyon]

?

[livid raven]

ok cool thanks, what about perks

[novel oracle]

yes, 40% is still a lot of rending, and youre typically still using the stabs for armor anyway
that 40% will plug the gap in the adm bringing it to 1, the rending youre losing out on with the this nerfed version would give you maybe 10-20% damage
but all the meat that you used it for is still there when stacked up to max

[twilit canyon]

am i missing the joke?

[cunning warren]

found a 0% damage weapon

[near mauve]

thank god the game decided to force me to do malice its not like i have over 500 levels across my characters

[livid raven]

oh sorry

[near mauve]

im still a noob

[rustic osprey]

Guess i just gotta get used to the playstyle. It is fun but i feel you get punished way more easily for messing up

[livid raven]

what was removed was another difficulty

[near mauve]

clearly need to do malice

[novel oracle]

im not a breakpoint tester
i slap flak maniac on my guns and unyielding carapace on my melees

[rose flax]

You shouldn't be only relying on heavies to deal with crowds
The push attack to heavy is so you can do more damage

[somber blade]

daamn my lowest was only 1%

[plush cove]

The radius? Yeah cuz I tested in H40, they're basically the same radius.

Also, just curious, do you guys think the uh...rocket launcher was in a good spot be4 release or nah? Cuz so far, I dont particularly see any useful niche that it fills that the other 2 blitzes haven't already. It doesnt exactly deal that great Unyielding dmg afaik, and oh boy, it doesn't even one-shot Rotten Armor Crusher :/

[twilit canyon]

the tickle pistol

[plush cove]

im tryna wrap my head around the rocket launcher

[twilit canyon]

sedition

[crude matrix]

@novel oracle whats the dump stat for needle pistol

[novel oracle]

well no shit it doesnt one shot a 10000 hp enemy with 75% dr

[crude matrix]

stopping power?

[cunning warren]

i mean the point is to poison with it right? im keeping it

[rose flax]

Damage if it doesn't affect dot

[novel oracle]

this is one of the things i actually dont know

[patent bone]

Oh yeah, I had to adjust too. I was a Vet main for the longest time

[waxen jolt]

The only build I could see this class being insane with is a toxic built with the bonesaw needle gun the toxic grenades an about every tox part off the skill tree along with toughness and rampage

[novel oracle]

i wasnt paying much attention when that stuff was being worked on for the needle pistol

[near mauve]

wait
i got 40 points on uprising cause i did a malice mission
didnt know that was possible

[twilit smelt]

More complaining. I cannot think of a single reason why the full body tattoos have to be a thing. They should have been separated to facial and body.

[near mauve]

so if i have a friend carry me on auric its gonna be even faster?

the answer is obviously yes

[plush cove]

I mean yeah, but kraks, yknow, well tbh I might have to see if kraks still perform the same.

But still, rocket launcher is an enigmatic one.

[somber blade]

who cares they look kinda good tho

[rose flax]

Extra tatto

[golden lark]

If I have a med stim, will this also cure their wounds?

[uncut niche]

hey weird question, how do you get more Volume for the stimm lab

[novel oracle]

its a mix of a krak and a frag
it has the radius in the middle of the two, but higher individual damage at the epicenter of it, we bumped it up to just over 10,000 damage iirc

[lone dawn]

you can't have med stims as hive

[main wagon]

You’re not wrong, scum is fragile. It can feel intimidating when your team isn’t pulling their weight, but you’ll get the hang of it with time

[golden lark]

Since med stims cure wounds already and it says it will copy it

[novel oracle]

level up

[twilit canyon]

level up

[main wagon]

Plus early levels you’re so weak

[golden lark]

wait why lol

[main wagon]

But once you hit mid teens it starts to really pick up

[twilit smelt]

I care. dont want some tattoos on my face because of clipping issues. But i cannot use some tattos because they are stuck to "full body"

[quaint iris]

Today is sad day

[robust sable]

You can if you just... don't upgrade your Cartel Special iirc.

[rose flax]

Every 5 levels I think

[novel oracle]

yes
when they walk into the crate, they get a one time effect of a med stim, as if they used it

[robust sable]

Literally just don't put points into your Stimm Lab.

[somber blade]

and the rivers will burn and the sky will rain blood 😭

[waxen jolt]

Hopefully the only part about this class I like is the shivs and their versatility with throwing them at ranged enemies and stabbing armoured ones

[gritty elk]

dump stat on crowbar? mobility or defenses?

[uncut niche]

ok so the dual SMG's fuck

[blissful gull]

are pocket-toxin blinder grenades the move in havoc? or are chem grenades better?

[main wagon]

Mobility because we are the fast

[lament stirrup]

Mastery leveling is hell

😭

[somber blade]

man shivs mk3 is so fun to use, its like old BB for ogryns

[novel oracle]

defences, thats just block and push and your stamina profile is fucking cracked

.5 delay and 2 regen

[worn gull]

I like both dual pistols. SMGs shred, I really like the stubbers for taking out other gunners and snipers

[main wagon]

Oh shit?

[marble pivot]

Any advice on not dying to hordes easily? What’s a good weapon for them

[main wagon]

I’d have thought with our baby stam bar that mobility would’ve been the pick

[twilit canyon]

not even block

[rose flax]

BB?

[sturdy linden]

dodge, duck, dive, block, push

[novel oracle]

did you read the stats i said

[somber blade]

just level up a bit weapons get waaay better

[crude matrix]

just sac green weapons in bulk

[sturdy linden]

[gritty elk]

12% stamina regen on curios worth dumping?

[somber blade]

bull butcher

[novel oracle]

.5 regen delay is arbites/psyker regen delay

[tender marten]

Yeah Scum stamina is bonkers good

[frigid thorn]

What's a good weapon to run with the SMGs? Crowbar?

[main wagon]

Yeah I’m just saying I’d have expected otherwise

[plush cove]

fair enough fair enough.

[novel oracle]

2 stam regen is the fast fastest in the game

[main wagon]

Good to see

[civic hare]

You convinced me - iron riders it is

[novel oracle]

zealots is 1

[tender marten]

And 2 regen is slightly less than a Zealot ... with 3x stam regen

Zealot is 1.5*

[novel oracle]

scum has 2x the previous fastest stam regen rate in the game

[sturdy linden]

yeah ganger base stam regen is fucking nuts

[patent bone]

Join Tread Lightlies? Got it.

[main wagon]

No love for the treadies :(((

[worn gull]

I joined the Show

[rose flax]

How about 0.32 delay lol

[patent bone]

I gotchu

[civic hare]

too little robbery on the go

[lethal quartz]

Everyone who ain’t a tread lightlies is on my hitlist once this truce over killing heretics is over

[main wagon]

My Scumma

[marble pivot]

Yeah they feel a bit ass without upgrades

[lethal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-gun-bang-gangsta-crew-squad-gif-14459213

[novel oracle]

you cant change it

[main wagon]

I FORGOT

WE’RE MUCKERS

[novel oracle]

theres no way you can change the delay

[gritty elk]

what perks and blessings on crowbar?

[vale garden]

Does the stim crate trigger dependency?

[marble pivot]

Especially the bone saw, I thought it would be good for hordes and groups but it’s more single target strikes

[novel oracle]

superiority and either can opener or take a swing

[somber blade]

felt the same but now i got 500 on mk3 shives and holy they slaughter hordes and specialists/elites but they struggle biig on ogryns

[brave furnace]

have i missed it or is thare not a way to see the cd of your stim?

[zenith pagoda]

Don't forget your experience curios laddies

[novel oracle]

see youd think that
but you can get it to work for groups

[rose flax]

Stamina Regen curio delay I mean

[patent bone]

We a gang of gunslingers and Moebian Steel, I am HAPPY

[waxen jolt]

Anyway what class yall want next?

[amber sundial]

theres a background transparency to the stim that shows it

kinda hard to see it

[compact oyster]

tech adept

[novel oracle]

yes
scum has no way of changing stam regen delay

[zenith pagoda]

It's good anyway

[novel oracle]

stam regen changes the stam regen RATE

[waxen jolt]

Personally I want the skitarii

[novel oracle]

not DELAY

[limber cradle]

Don't care, FS will cook

[brave furnace]

a small loading icon or somthing woude have been better imo but hey thanks for telling me 😄

[novel oracle]

scum already has 2/s which is insane

you dont need that perk

[civic hare]

IR REPRESENT! we are simply better

[patent bone]

I don't know, and at this point I don't care because I am happy with this class

[mild minnow]

Hows the class been going gang

[rose flax]

It does???
So it's less than 1 second for 2 stamina?

[novel oracle]

i literally take revive speed in that slot when i use stam regen on other classes

[patent bone]

TL ALL THE WAY!!!

[amber sundial]

it also applies to ogryn rocks too so i think its jsut a general change to regenerating stuff

[marble pivot]

How so?

[novel oracle]

i dont think you understand how HIGH 2/s is
you will NEVER have stamina problems EVER

[tender marten]

its so much

[novel oracle]

stam regen is not doing much for you cuz you wont ever be strapped for it ever

[sturdy linden]

you would need to sit there shoving non stop and drain your bar for it to run out

[crude matrix]

we need a fat shark

[sturdy linden]

or just sprint non stop with no slides

[winter tusk]

i was getting hit by 4 melees at once reviving and my stamina was regening faster than they could break it

[tender marten]

if you wanted to put stam regen curios you're at 2.72/s which is hilarious

[patent bone]

I'm right here...

[rose flax]

Yeah but we can make him better than handmaiden then lol

[novel oracle]

YOU LITERALLY REGEN WHILE SLIDING CUZ ITS SO FAST

[main wagon]

You don’t really even have to slide religiously because your entire stamina bar comes back in like 1.5s

[novel oracle]

YOU GET A NET POSITIVE

[main wagon]

Just hold shift and drink your coffee

[winter tusk]

hs doesnt need stamina

[sturdy linden]

I know

[crude matrix]

cant psyker do that as well

[sturdy linden]

I saw it happen

and I was like bro

[sturdy linden]

not as much

it's net negative with Psyker

but with ganger it's positive

[novel oracle]

not nearly as much, youll still bottom out

[sturdy linden]

extremely funny

[novel oracle]

psyker has like 1/4th of the regen scum does

[rotund orchid]

so the low stamina blessings and that one get more melee damage the lower your stamina is talent are not good ?

[lethal quartz]

It’s good, just spam PA with weapons that have good PA

[rose flax]

For me, stamina Regen stops entirely while sliding

[novel oracle]

yeah theyre dogshit
for damage that is
the talent is great cuz its dr at high stamina
which is invaluable as theres very little dr available to you

[main wagon]

All or Nothing kinda silly on scum yeah

[rotund orchid]

I see

[rose flax]

Attack speed talent though

[steep hatch]

sorry i missed the start of the stamina regen convo - is it different for scummer?

[main wagon]

You’ll be fighting to keep (all or nothing) up because the stam is so juiced unless you exclusively PA you’ll prolly out regen your usage

[somber blade]

highest in the game

2 instead of 0.5 if i recall

[steep hatch]

oh my

[main wagon]

It’ll just max out while you’re like “WHY CANT I BECOME TIRED”

[mild minnow]

Honestly the hivescum perks feel so different from eachother its really nice

[steep hatch]

no wonder i only have 75 toughness

[novel oracle]

and? youll still be near max stamina all the time even if using push attacks for combos cuz of the base stam profile

[fervent steppe]

Anyone got a DOT build going?

[rose flax]

No I mean, more stamina means more attack speed

[novel oracle]

like look

[steep hatch]

you mean like 3 +3 stamina curios?

[novel oracle]

and stam regen doesnt give you more stamina bars, which is what that scales off of

[mild minnow]

Also geniuenly the anti corruption stuff is actually buckwild

[novel oracle]

doesnt cross wound thresholds

[steep hatch]

feels like a trap pick then

except for havoc, I assume

[mild minnow]

I mean ive had like my fair issues with pox gas

[vale garden]

Ooh is the stim lab stim affected by CDR?

I imagine so but wouldn't surprise me if not

[novel oracle]

no

[vale garden]

What

[hasty agate]

I’m really not crazy about any of hive scum exclusives (weapons) yet. Is the bonesaw anything special?

[vale garden]

Lame

[novel oracle]

cdr is for abilities only

[steep hatch]

i like my funny little shivs

i'm excited for the double blickys

[mild minnow]

What im not understanding though is why rampage gets a penalty on deactivation

[rose flax]

I was talking about Max stamina with this talent, +18% just with shivs

[rose flax]

Sorry should of specified

[devout bison]

Any point in locking myself in the campaign? I've already done it before. Did they change anything for hivescum?

[hasty agate]

What kind of stim configuration was that?

[novel oracle]

i think max stacking +stam curios for this is a meme
1 +3 is fine but youre taking what little survivability you have for more attack speed when you already get a ton in the tree anyway

scum has 3 stam base
knives has 1 base
+3 stam gives 3
thats 14% already

[steep hatch]

are people generally running toughness curios or health curios?

[novel oracle]

if you use saw or crowbar, those have 3 stam base, so now youre at 20%

[novel oracle]

strength/crit chance

[tender marten]

do like the stim tree concept

actually i love it

wish we had a dog tree for arby

and a nosh tree for ogryns (obviously)

[novel oracle]

toughness always
the only exception is havoc with 1 health or 1-2 health subperks as theyll be at 98 without any and that can cause burster instant one shots

[stone knot]

rock tree for ogryn

[rose flax]

Huh? What else increases attack speed passively?

[mild minnow]

Im assuming mobil would be the dump stat for these right

[sturdy marsh]

First heresy mission that was going really well. And the game aborts the mission

[novel oracle]

rampage by 25%
adrenaline by 10%
stim by up to 20%

[neat heart]

it always is

[somber blade]

spammed weapon swap and script broke the game

[broken moss]

I'd dump collateral, personally

[novel oracle]

and low investment into that talent is 14-20%

[vale garden]

Actually honestly I think its fine that stims aren't affected by cdr

[novel oracle]

like look how fast this heavy sword swings

[tender marten]

they have their own cdr anyway

[halcyon marten]

hey yall, how does the green/purple effect work on the bonesaw?

[novel oracle]

which is ass

[novel oracle]

give me a sec ill type it out in depth

[halcyon marten]

🦭 thanx

[obsidian cipher]

Well, who would’ve thought that Pickpocket needed a nerf? lmao fatshark pls not arbites bleed dog again

[stone knot]

it's something

[rare grotto]

I think purple is anti-armor

[vale garden]

I was imagining a build where if you go all in on cdr your stim cd would basically be your crate cd, but instead you could stagger them which is arguably even more OP

[rose flax]

Dang, also how are people getting above 201 toughness? Isn't it 125 + 61%?

[idle mesa]

what is the dump stat for shivs?

[rose flax]

Penetration probably

[rare grotto]

probably mobility

[stone knot]

damage

[somber blade]

all stats

[crude matrix]

damage

[somber blade]

just get 76 on all

[stone knot]

use spoon instead

[fast gust]

People are already complaining the class came pre-nerfed

[vale garden]

Drop crate before stim cd, stim resets crate cd, Drop again

[fast gust]

lol

[obsidian cipher]

str/int

[rose flax]

Oh wait, penetration isn't what I thought it is

[rotund obsidian]

Karnak twins get absolutely mauled by HS holy shit

[rose flax]

It's damage against armor

[vale garden]

So long as crate triggers dependency which idk

[crude matrix]

lmao

[rose flax]

Though shivs attack flak armor with light attacks

[faint patrol]

What does it mean remaining at max stacks of chemical dependency for Stimmed and Alchemist, I went through an entire mission keeping my stacks at max yet not a single second was registered

[novel oracle]

toxin mode applies 1 toxin per stack, 1 on crit, and deals significantly higher raw damage to flesh
purple flavor applies 3 stacks of 2.5% brittleness on hit, +1 on crit (caps at 15 stacks and can stack with all other brittle sources) and deals significantly higher armor damage

[novel oracle]

scum has 75 base toughness

[blissful gull]

does quick and deadly apply to melee attacks?

[novel oracle]

oh right the 2 stat nodes

for 125

[rose flax]

It reduces your abilitys cool down just like the curio
Similar to psykers keystone from warp kills

[halcyon marten]

fs, so i just switch to purple for crushers and stuff

[vale garden]

Im sure someone answered and I just didnt see it, but does anyone know if the crate triggers chem dependency?

[novel oracle]

wheres the 61% youre getting

[vale garden]

Maybe effective toughness with DR?

[novel oracle]

17+17+17% from all toughness, then +15% from perks is 66%

[livid raven]

no, lmao

[arctic steppe]

17 17 17 with 2 +5 probably

[novel oracle]

which results in 207.5%

[novel oracle]

not yet

[vale garden]

Whyyy

[livid raven]

you'd think

[vale garden]

Oh intended to do so, but it got sharked?

Or just expecting it to

[novel oracle]

basically
crushers, sometimes maulers if theres a lot, and twins

[livid raven]

also i think enhanced desperado is where it's at

[rose flax]

Ignore me lol, I have no idea

[novel oracle]

both coating debuffs also count as toxin for talents and blesings btw

[vale garden]

Yeah desperado and vulture seem like the standout atm

I really love the idea of spamming a crate that grants stims tho

[frigid thorn]

Does Speedloader work with autopistol right now?

[livid raven]

i am not sure why rampage has to debuff you after it ends

[novel oracle]

will be fixed soon

[gilded jetty]

Is the class worth buying? Reviews are very mixed?

[novel oracle]

yes

[frigid thorn]

Just the reload skills that are broken right now, yeah?

[vale garden]

Str/crit and CDR stim seems gnarly

[random shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-im-stimming-adventure-time-finn-gif-25046336

[novel oracle]

no
they all work

[frigid thorn]

oh ok

[crude matrix]

mixed mostly bc admech fans lol
class is good

[novel oracle]

holy shit chasing posts as chat scrolls to click reply every time lmfao

[frigid thorn]

i thought someone said they were broken lol

[random shuttle]

Scum is fun as heck

[livid raven]

that someone got angry when another dude told him they work

[random shuttle]

but

[arctic steppe]

btw is the crit bonus on the stub pistols actually broken or is it just visual

[vale garden]

I saw someone negative review cause of the price point like lmao

[random shuttle]

I didnt see a single unique Mortis talent yet and that made me sad

must try more

[novel oracle]

they were earlier in the media build but that was since fixed

[crude matrix]

"why arent u giving this to me for free!?!!?!!?111"

[frigid thorn]

got it, thanks man!

[novel oracle]

tide players are zero celled organisms

[rare grotto]

isn't Hive Scum cheaper than Arbites?

[novel oracle]

same price

12 base 18 deluxe in usd

[vale garden]

Its literally less than an hour of minimum wage here lol

[turbid fulcrum]

Damn, this class really is not easy to play. The melee ability is so hard to time well since it has no built-in gap closer. I find myself whiffing with it often.

[tender marten]

i made the money back instantly in a nearby back alley

[livid raven]

i've found much, much bigger success with desperado

[topaz cloud]

hivescum fun ?

[somber blade]

1 skin in battlefield 6 is more expensive than delux class bundle

[novel oracle]

HOLY SHIT IM SO GLAD I SEE THIS EVERYWHERE

WE DID IT

[vale garden]

I do wish the rampage node with the shout triggered on rampage end rather than start

[sturdy linden]

[novel oracle]

since it has no built-in gap closer

[arctic steppe]

idk i managed to walk into 10 gunners and m1 spam with my shivs and rampage, hard otherwise though

[turbid fulcrum]

Yeah I need to try that again, but I didn't like the uzis. Maybe I'll try it with the shredder or autogun

[novel oracle]

it does both

[crude matrix]

isnt that whats supposed to happen

[thorny ginkgo]

do i have to reinstall DML, i added the temp fix and its still crashing when i start the game

[vale garden]

Oh

Thx

Lol

[random shuttle]

You know what @novel oracle

I thimk

[barren geode]

Anyone maxed out and messed with the chem tree much? How viable is a build with triple toxic rocket launchers? Or six chem stun nades?

[novel oracle]

this can knock dogs off you btw
itll also trigger when youre downed, sometimes allowing for a rez too (thats happened to me in havoc before lmfao)

[random shuttle]

the best thing about this class is how its unique weapons really feel wacky af

[tender marten]

JUST ANOTHER DAY IN THE BIG T

[vale garden]

Ive had like 30 mins of hands on with the class

[random shuttle]

each is a weirdo little trickbag

[compact oyster]

I wouldnt pick pocket toxin on rockets

[turbid fulcrum]

I didn't have enough points yet to get this one, but it makes sense 😄
True, I could also jump back to the pocket sand, I've used the tox grenade since it seems to be the most powerful one generally.

[barren geode]

I’ve been thinking how the rocket launcher should be with the gunslinger class and the flash nades sre better with melee.

[compact oyster]

Awful to use and when they dont cause you to die cause of the delay they kill everything infront of you

[remote eagle]

Recommended blessings for the Combat Shotgun?

[novel oracle]

i cant wait for people to hate the saw cuz of its fucking abysmal dogshit cleave and not fully understand how to fix it cuz they dont understand the math behind how stats interact

[random shuttle]

dogshit cleave?

How

[sturdy linden]

I cannot wait for this class (and the game) to be review bombed because people are terrible at it and want refunds

[lethal quartz]

I love how people said this class would be op ez cuz immunity when we kept saying it’s glass cannon by design intentionally

[novel oracle]

tbh i use blinders on both

[sturdy linden]

[random shuttle]

with Shock and Awe and cleave talents?

[crude matrix]

average tide player reading comprehension

[novel oracle]

baseline

[livid raven]

it's also slow as shit tho

[compact oyster]

Base cleaver only hitting a max of 3 enemies per hit

[novel oracle]

1 cleave talent, shock and awe and deci for power

[sturdy marsh]

What blessings have y'all been using on the saw? And perks?

[novel oracle]

deci shock and awe cara unyield

[livid raven]

i wish it didn't make you so slow

[sturdy linden]

Basically shock and awe is mandatory

[compact oyster]

Is it supposed to be his bad?

[sturdy linden]

[barren geode]

How’s the launchers damage hold up against monstrosities in high diff?

[lethal quartz]

Yes chz talents

[novel oracle]

cleave is its intended weakness

wrath was literally nerfed on this weapon specifically cuz it was likely to be too much of a mandatory pick

[zealous ravine]

ohhh thats forge bellow

[compact oyster]

Hitting a grand total of 1 moebian 21st in havoc lol

[mild minnow]

Hey I just tried the needle gun for the first time

what the fuck is this thing

[random shuttle]

Its a DOT weapon - cleave weakness is smart

[sturdy marsh]

Cool. That's basically what I've been using. I just put flak instead on unyielding

[novel oracle]

but when you get it stacked up

[random shuttle]

also easy to fix with blessings talents

[zealous ravine]

its a doohickey powered by stimms and dreams

[rough sonnet]

any idea how to get these two done

[mild minnow]

These DoT ticks are actually insane what

[rough sonnet]

am I just dumb

[compact oyster]

A cardboard sword with some sharp ductape wrap

[barren geode]

Continuously? I figured it was combined.

[rough sonnet]

idk if its continuous

[compact oyster]

1 point in the stim tree then just constantly spam the stim

[barren geode]

Well it’s the capstone of the drug tree, so get that first and test it.

[digital drift]

i just unlocked the needle
the video im watching for it the guy is ticking for 1k dmg

[rough sonnet]

as in the stimm lab or the chemist far right tree

[mild minnow]

im using MK6 I dont know what the mk4 does

[compact oyster]

Just the stin lab

[rough sonnet]

alr

[compact oyster]

So youll have the stim but its also like 30 seconds of actual cooldown

[rough sonnet]

idk how to keep that buff

or wtv it is

[digital drift]

the diefference is that one the explosive mode on the 6 is a boom, on the 4 its a AoE chem toxin stack

[rough sonnet]

for the entire mission

[livid raven]

the boom is very weak btw

like, 50 damage weak

[digital drift]

this

[novel oracle]

in addition to what shaggy said, the 6 applies 1 more stack on weakspot/crit (total of 2 each) vs the 4 applying only 1 each

[digital drift]

sorry its Mk6 for the boom, Mk2 for the toxin splash

[novel oracle]

6 is much more single target while the 4 is slightly worse at applying stacks to 1 guy but gets the ability for some group clear

[digital drift]

do we know the max stacks of the toxin from the needle?

[north plank]

start juicing

[novel oracle]

ok now youre misinforming me too xd

i only know them by m1 and m2

im going off what others say for marks lmfao

[mild minnow]

Okay so like real talk whats stopping me from running pickpocket desperado on this thing

this feels insane what the hell

[vale garden]

I imagine the hsword is probably the play for a chem build?

[novel oracle]

global cap

[random shuttle]

mahdude

[novel oracle]

so 30

[digital drift]

sorry XD

FROM HERE ON ITS MK6 AND MK2 WHICH IS CORRECT

[vale garden]

Scum gets hsword right lol

[lethal quartz]

https://youtu.be/L0OMmHbaKQA?si=Pr_oj9fkOq3Z3cDd

[north meteor]

I just completed a mission and got 0 xp

[lethal quartz]

My needle timestamp

[vale garden]

Good

[random shuttle]

Ah yes

Stabita

[vale garden]

Hsword chem sounds great

Big cleave and fast

[novel oracle]

nah you wanna full send melee

no chem

maybe a needlepistol as a backup

[vale garden]

Im thinking for a chem build specifically

[novel oracle]

but HV is all you need

[novel oracle]

its what allows this

[digital drift]

Her name is Bresci
named after Gaetano Bresci

[steep hatch]

funny roll for a 30 but i'm not spending the resources to level this all the way up to 500

[sturdy marsh]

That 4k aquilla deal was pretty good. This is the only game I've ever bought cosmetics for

[rose flax]

I said it before, but I love that the hive scum is literally just all careers of the elf + crackhead behavior

[novel oracle]

scum is officially the best class to use hsword now imo

[mild minnow]

Also like geniunly is there any oversight to using pickpocket? This geniuenly is just infinite ammo for me

[reef skiff]

i love that hive scum has more cosmetics than Arbitrator just on release

[steep hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs2-solid-snake-metal-gear-solid2-metal-gear-solid-mgs-gif-27578347

[arctic steppe]

shredder + autopistol finally a non-throw build

[sturdy marsh]

Has the event not started yet?

[arctic steppe]

i mean heavy sword

[novel oracle]

cuz theres more cosmetics for scum to get
arbites ran out of things day 1

[smoky gazelle]

is the needle pistol shit or am i using it wrong

[mild minnow]

it straight up is
I get an elite kill and my ammo on my needle gun reserves goes up to 18

[novel oracle]

they literally need GW to make and approve more before they can add more

[reef skiff]

fairs

[high gull]

AOE boom boom chemist ganger is fucking insane levels of fun man

Idc if it isn't meta

That shits gas

[mild minnow]

I dont like my hivescum

[high gull]

Just watching entire mobs disintegrate

[somber blade]

why wait its happening right now

[mild minnow]

I thought I would make him look like this to be funny but now I despise the character

[novel oracle]

is it really

[reef skiff]

you know you can change his appearance right

[high gull]

Fucking called it

[rose flax]

Infinite ammo by purpose clearly, since it never changed

[somber blade]

yes

[high gull]

I CALLED IT

[mild minnow]

its not even too deep in the keystones either

[steep hatch]

we're elite specialists????

[high gull]

I CALLED IT LAST NIGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE A REVIEW

[somber blade]

yes you know the recruited prison chars that we are are elite specialists

[vale garden]

This is like the polar opposite of Cole. One complains it sucks because they suck, Cole says its OP and I wonder if its only OP if youre good

[high gull]

You're a champion of a crime syndicate sent to represent said crime syndicate.

[vale garden]

Skill ceiling mang

[novel oracle]

remember how they said they changed their direction since then

[rose flax]

Dude is new to Warhammer
Just exposed himself

[vale garden]

Lol huh

[somber blade]

it 100% a skill issue

[novel oracle]

it was also SUBclasses

that they promised

[vale garden]

They literally did

[steep hatch]

that's why they call me reject

[novel oracle]

then realized they couldnt deliver

so they merged what they had

[vale garden]

It didnt say they refunded

[novel oracle]

and shipped skilltrees

[compact oyster]

All glass no cannon

[vale garden]

So they literally did pay for it lol

[cunning rain]

Can’t believe it, hasn’t even been out for a full 24 hours and I’ve already encountered a try hard speed running hive scum

[frigid thorn]

what's the voice that sounds like rinda karnak, the anarchist female?

[devout bison]

What's this?

[limber cradle]

This class is on god goated if you know the game ime so far

[compact oyster]

DOTNL

[arctic aspen]

am i woke for playing hive scum

[plush cove]

it shoots aids-ridden needles

[rose flax]

The angle your immune to ranged attacks in while sprinting

[frigid thorn]

bro got cooked

[novel oracle]

yes
colored hair liberal

[vale garden]

Woke is when woman i wouldn't sleep with (i would actually, but i pretend i wouldn't)

[steep hatch]

chat is it woke to kill for the emprah

[rose flax]

Let me get the reference

[cunning rain]

What?

[somber blade]

no you're junker queen

[frigid thorn]

woke is when woman have mud on face not makeup

[devout bison]

woah woah... there's ranged dodge while simply sprinting? Where is the angle usually?

[compact oyster]

The speedrunner i asume

[glad latch]

yes

[arctic aspen]

I love my stims 🥹

[sturdy linden]

[safe dawn]

i got wet while making the hivescum

[rose flax]

#hivescum-class message

[steep hatch]

love me stims love me emprah

[frigid thorn]

i had to look up teh VA and i was shocked it wasn't the same voice actress

[somber blade]

bro the moment when people try and make crack head waifus 😭

[cunning rain]

Oh maybe, but I encountered them in a game and I don’t think their tag was anything like that

[somber blade]

seen so many today its sad

[glad latch]

Probably someone from the same region.

[frigid thorn]

I remember someone linking a meme on the darktide sub like a year ago where they were like "We aren't asking for supermodel waifus, we want them to look like this" and they posted some book cover art and the soldier on the cover was literally a waifu but with some mud on her face

[somber blade]

ngl i love their armor its just ogryn but for small people

[high gull]

Armor aestetics ain't too bad tho

[thorny ginkgo]

best melee weapon for this class is shiv and crowbar? lmao

[steep vale]

Chat i named my scum peter percr

[somber blade]

people are such gooners its insane

[safe dawn]

I want a guy like that so bad

[frigid thorn]

Also can I say I'm laughing so hard at all the people that were talking about how the Scum class was WELL AKSHULLY PRETTY TANKY BECAUSE I READ TEH SKILLS AND THEY HAVE TOUGHNESS REGEN SO ITS TANKY

[high gull]

I'm about to suffer through chem dependancy to unlock the golden armor sleeve for show

And hopefully get the golden spiked helmet

[uncut niche]

Wait wasn’t the hive scum meant to have a crowbar?

[rare heart]

can't even call my character Fentanyl

[compact oyster]

I dislike that there are only 3 torso cosmetics that cover your body

[sturdy marsh]

Nobody hates darktide like darktide fans

[rose flax]

He does

[vale garden]

Just finished lunch only 5 more hours until I can go home and scum

[arctic steppe]

it is pretty tanky honestly if u build for melee

[high gull]

Give it time

[compact oyster]

Are you trying to go for enhanced?

[frigid thorn]

yeah, but the crazy people were like listing all the skills as if you could magically take all of them while still having a coherent build

[high gull]

Yeah

[somber blade]

since day 1

[high gull]

I'm burning through maelstroms rn

[compact oyster]

My condolances

[high gull]

And it's easy to keep uptime

[arctic steppe]

they are pretty spread out yeah

[high gull]

2000s is gonna be rough

[compact oyster]

Oh chems

[thorny ginkgo]

which build are you using

[compact oyster]

I thought the toughness stim

[sturdy marsh]

I sometimes read the darktide subreddit, I don't think anyone there actually enjoys the game.

[crude robin]

is there a way to regen the stim faster other then just filling it less?

[jaunty copper]

man I'm having a looooot of fun with the dual pistols

[tender forge]

btw are melee kills not considered kills at close range?

[woeful hill]

I got to level 30 in an hour and half, here is the build

[frigid thorn]

That's me when I review bomb the game

[high gull]

Whomever made this deserves jail time

[near mauve]

yeah dodges are 100% not working proper

[high gull]

Saw, needler

[limber cradle]

Is this hive scum meta?

[novel oracle]

that one talent right above chem dep
thats it

[high gull]

And I'll post my tree in a sec

It's not done yet

[thorny ginkgo]

kk

[somber blade]

tbf its like every subreddit its just clown/karma farming from the same npcs

[thorny ginkgo]

how do you like needler compared to the pistols

[compact oyster]

I genuinely knew there was some fuckery going on when pre update i could breeze though aurics but now get hit by everything

[high gull]

Mk3 is fucking slamming tbh

I mag dump into a dense horde

[rose flax]

Sample collector gives stim recharge charge with each kill
1% for normal kills, 2% for toxic effected enemies

[high gull]

And it just vanishes

[thorny ginkgo]

damn fr?

[high gull]

The constant tox explosions

Like a chain reaction

[near mauve]

im climbing!

[thorny ginkgo]

i didnt know the needler causes explosions wtf

[steep hatch]

that hive scum is a member of The Pack

[glacial gyro]

catachan sword feels so damn good

[frigid thorn]

Also wow, desperado feels so much better to play now that I've unlocked the actual ability to keep the ult going lol

[high gull]

Mk3 needler causes a tox explosion that spreads tox on kill

[livid raven]

the sneedler

[blissful gull]

is sticky hands worth it?

[glacial gyro]

the parry is a lifesaver

[winter tusk]

this is why steam reviews need better moderation and people should be banned from them more often

[thorny ginkgo]

damn i might have to get on that build, im not feeling melee rn

[frigid thorn]

What makes heavy sword so good on scum?

[somber blade]

tried to use it in meatgrinder but its broken there 😭

[high gull]

I also have talents that reduce the dmg output of mobs hit with tox

Monstrosities do -30% dmg if I hit them with tox

So it's a win win

[arctic steppe]

it can actually kill crushers/carapace

[somber blade]

both marks did the exact same damage tho for some reason in the meatgrinder

[cunning rain]

I know right, I just did the same

[high gull]

Since I'm applying tox 24/7

[frigid thorn]

dang

[thorny ginkgo]

i'll wait for you to drop the build, sounds good

[high gull]

I need to hit 30 to flesh it out fully

[frigid thorn]

ahhh, is it the rending nodes and stuff on the rampage?

[high gull]

So it's gonna probably be in a few hours

[thorny ginkgo]

kk

[steep hatch]

is the hsword killing carapace from the stim? Or some other perk?

[rose flax]

I love how much synergy hive scum has with it's talents and everything
Unless it's stuff that doesn't work because of dots

[thorny ginkgo]

can i add you?

[high gull]

Idc sure

[thorny ginkgo]

ok i added you

[random shuttle]

It's all about the Stimms, Spiderman.

[high gull]

I'm not gonna be the go to person for builds tho, this is dead ass just me experimenting with a mid tier build.

[arctic steppe]

pretty sure yeah i havent tested it myself but ive seen a lot of good heavy sword gameplay already

[high gull]

You'd have to ask cole or vamp

[livid raven]

i wonder if dependency would be good in any case

[arctic steppe]

the tree has a decent chunk of rending

[compact oyster]

Now this is interresting

[high gull]

Or ancient

[thorny ginkgo]

okk

[random shuttle]

lets see If I am ready for a little

heresy

[light phoenix]

How? Certain talents? Toxins?

Sorry still at work will test later

[compact oyster]

The mission data in no mans land contains a genestealer cult symbol

[worn gull]

The 'immune to melee while sliding' talent doesn't feel like it works

[rose flax]

You can't tank overheads by the way

[high gull]

Toxin is okayish vs crusher packs if you can kite them

Atleast on heresy

[arctic steppe]

idk where cole went but seemingly pure melee is the way for it, with rending talents and rampage

they could explain it better

[crude robin]

there is also a line about skitari that hadron says iirc

[arctic steppe]

like that

[sturdy linden]

isn't this node bugged rn

[novel oracle]

nope

[high gull]

Needler enjoyer

[compact oyster]

I know

[rose flax]

Ez 25% damage increase

[rare heart]

Harlequin actually fire name

[novel oracle]

rending isnt damage

[thorny ginkgo]

wtf

[compact oyster]

Grendyl doesnt want to requisition skitarii

[novel oracle]

in reality its way higher for a weapon like heavy sword

[rose flax]

Oh, sorry thought I replied to hyper violence

[novel oracle]

its additive to the armor damage multiplier

[unique edge]

anyone else not able to select the cosmetic dlc full body tattoos on character creation? i own the pack and it says i cant

[novel oracle]

again, its more involved than just +25% damage

[broken moss]

anyone make it to 30 yet?

[zenith pagoda]

Anyone in EU levelling up? Randoms are so shit

[livid raven]

is the event still not online

[rose flax]

What do you mean?

[novel oracle]

i powerleveled to 30 before it was even available to buy xd

[high gull]

This might be a huge pick if you're going for the enhances penance btw

[thorny ginkgo]

skittari aren't expendable if i recall

[livid raven]

i mean neither are arbites

[compact oyster]

Nah the enhanced penance is just bugged

[high gull]

Even still

[compact oyster]

Only the 25% or 50% toughness counts for the penance

[novel oracle]

say theres an enemy with 100 hp left and you deal 500 damage to it
for 1s, or until you kill another enemy, all of your attacks deal +(400/4) damage

[light phoenix]

Tech Thralls?

[glad latch]

No, but am level 19 at the moment. Would be higher if the internet in my area didn't decide to drop out several times today.

[high gull]

sample collector is goated

If you're running a stim box build

[compact oyster]

Enhanced wouldve been a good penance if it was toughness gained whilst stimmed

[arctic steppe]

does this apply to itself and does it stack the most recent damage or highest orrrr

[sturdy marsh]

Overall I really enjoy this class. Once I get over my skill issue it might be tied for my favorite

[compact oyster]

Top left path is complete ass anyways

[somber blade]

stopped at 24 today cause my brother had to sleep that coward 😭

[blissful gull]

what melee weapon is best on a ranged autopistols build?

[novel oracle]

if the extra damage you get from this results in a higher overkill on the next kill, yes it will scale higher

[arctic steppe]

very nice

[broken moss]

Nerf this shit

[silver mural]

They still havent fixes chemical dependency and the box right

[bronze glade]

The stagger looks pretty helpful ngl

[novel oracle]

it was nerfed
it used to be 3s

[calm aurora]

I've lvled to lvl12... My god people are not ready. They're dying left and right .

[high gull]

I'm pretty sure Vamp has the golden armor and helmet

So it does work

[broken moss]

one shotting crushers. that's ridiculous

[novel oracle]

theres very little room for error with 1s

[compact oyster]

It works if you grind the shit out of it

[novel oracle]

thats also ideal scenario

[broken moss]

still

[limber cradle]

Autostubs at 20, time to pistol

[thorny ginkgo]

is there a link for this build?

[cunning rain]

I don’t know if it’s just my game, but does anyone else’s dual SMG reload get bugged if you throw a grenade in the middle of it?

[rapid mango]

every class can one shot a crusher, its nothing new

[limber cradle]

The dual smg load is buggy as fuck ime

[novel oracle]

heres an example of a realistic example
horde enemies getting in the way of my swings and getting deathblowed and proccing hyperviolence

[livid raven]

yeah it's buggy as shit

[rose flax]

Oh yeah I know, but it's still easy, like imagine you one headshot a trash mob with shiv

[near mauve]

this playerbase is lobotimized

giant ass map with giant ass open rooms
lets fight ranged in the open

[uncut niche]

“The god-emperor’s m1911’s”

[novel oracle]

it works really well with shivs cuz of their overkill damage scaling it high and the attack speed taking advantage of the tight window

[blissful gull]

@novel oracle are there any melees you recommend if running an autopistols buid?

[compact oyster]

Oh nah fighting ranged on that bombarded field section is awful

[high gull]

@compact oyster This gotta be liek 2-3 maelstroms

[compact oyster]

0 cover

[high gull]

Ez golden pants

[compact oyster]

This is so easy

[broken moss]

remind me more of Beretta m9s

[novel oracle]

shivs or taxe if youre running ranged

[alpine hazel]

is rampage better with middle or right keystone

[cunning rain]

I really wanna use the pistols, but my desire to use the smgs to get the special scout (or whatever it’s called) stance outweighs it

[compact oyster]

Pop a 20s stim use the needler done

[novel oracle]

middle

[blissful gull]

also, do you think sample collector is a really solid pick even if you don't have coated weapons?

[novel oracle]

this is what i think is the standard adrenaline build
the regen can be dropped but the other two are mandatory

[sturdy linden]

why take Adrenaline Smiter

[arctic steppe]

nice thats exactly what i used my first time playing it

[novel oracle]

if youre not build over there and dont have a long cooldown stim i dont think its worth

[lethal quartz]

Leapfrog the burning vehicle carcasses

[sturdy linden]

isn't the normal gain on hit more consistent

[limber cradle]

I imagine knife would also work or nah?

[near mauve]

love the shives
proper crackhead weapon

[compact oyster]

Huh

[lethal quartz]

Are you talking the trench map?

[novel oracle]

yea

[compact oyster]

I dont know how to do dodge boosting tech with ledges

[arctic steppe]

you get so many more stacks with kills than hits

[thorny ginkgo]

that heavy sword build is needed

[compact oyster]

Yes

[novel oracle]

cuz it stacks way quicker

[arctic steppe]

even a tac axe would one shot most small enemies so its just free stacks

[silver mural]

So does that mean out of the 3 chemical dependency might be the worst keystone? Relatively speaking at least

[lethal quartz]

Yeah the open sections there’s burning blown up vehicles

[limber cradle]

Appreciate it

[sturdy linden]

[rare heart]

broo

[novel oracle]

like look at the stack count and how often its refreshed

[lethal quartz]

And the right side has ruins that can be pillars to hide behind

[rare heart]

this game won't let me do Narcotic as a name

LET ME DO THE FUNNY

[novel oracle]

like 2 elites in quick succession procs it

[limber cradle]

Gotta be more creative than that

[lavish forge]

are there any level 30 hivers yet

[novel oracle]

i was 8 hours ago

[bronze glade]

Oh hey that’s what I’m running

[limber cradle]

Twins spam?

[novel oracle]

yea

kills too so auric unlocked at lvl 28

[rose flax]

holy oh

[limber cradle]

Very nice

[broken moss]

so what do y'all think fatshark gonna emergency nerf first?

[arctic steppe]

inf ammo

[fervent steppe]

inf ammo?

[arctic steppe]

pickpocket

[limber cradle]

Pickpocket

Bottom left tree

Left side

[fervent steppe]

ah

[unkempt salmon]

What should I put on my DClaw?

[rare heart]

Pickpocket sounds like a funny name

[hallow raft]

it wont be a nerf, it will be a spelling correction, it should have been Finite ammo the whole time

[livid raven]

is damn everyone playing train today

[rose flax]

They did before the class releases

[broken moss]

so killing an elite while at low ammo just keeps putting it back up to 20%

that's kinda wild

[novel oracle]

lemme grab the changes i have to throw at them soon