hivescum-class

[near vapor]

dont miss me with your set shit

[tribal bane]

you'd rather drink dasani than actual somewhat drinkable water?

[near vapor]

yall mfs know to flock into the Show territory anyways by the end of the day

for the booze and fun

[patent bone]

I'd rather drink literal poison than any of your shite water

[tribal bane]

damn

[patent bone]

The Show? More like the SHIT

[tribal bane]

that still means good

[hearty crest]

The SHITshow

Heh

WE SMOKIN STRAIGHT CRANK BOIS

[tight hinge]

dasani is crap, it makes me even more thirsty drinking it

[patent bone]

The Show is good for two things: Broadway and pussies

[steel briar]

Iron Riders

[hearty crest]

" tHe InQusItIon " PAH

[patent bone]

JUST LIKE THEIR MEMBERS

[lofty cloud]

Please tell me we can make a medic build with the stim crate ability

[steel briar]

All your trade and supplies goes through us.

All belong to us now

[patent bone]

Our Tithe goes through us

[tribal bane]

not us, we got pipes

[steel briar]

Iron Riders very important for tithe.

[high gull]

Show represent

[steel briar]

But we're also the black market, brokers.

[patent bone]

Tread Lightlies IS the tithe

[tribal bane]

I think everyone but the show is necissary to survive the war

[steel briar]

You make steel, you put on our trains. Simple as

[tribal bane]

we can't live without transport, water, or manufactored weapons

[patent bone]

And you make sure it stays good, otherwise it's YOUR heads!!
Lady Steels orders!!

[steel briar]

The show gang is just recreational, Hadron confirmed this.

[patent bone]

Atleast we don't follow a MADMAN

[high gull]

Bad morale = traitors

Gotta keep the locals happy

[steel briar]

We always protect the goods, choom.

[high gull]

🤌🏽

[patent bone]

Name one thing the Show is good for, besides losing territory

[high gull]

Wild

[near vapor]

youre gonna cry when we finally ban yo ass from visiting the entertainment district

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/picklejuicelover69-gif-2151952551172175484

picture of happyness

[novel oracle]

guys

[near vapor]

Carnival is WHERE THE PARTY AT

[novel oracle]

guys guys

[steel briar]

Well, except that time the rations was stolen and train hijacked for tox bomb.. but we not talk about that. Plus Plasma weapons..

[high gull]

They keep coming back keeping Big T running

[patent bone]

FUCK your district, I know twelve other hives that do better

[high gull]

A happy spender is a good spender

[steel briar]

Other than that, we good.

[low harbor]

Pretty sure every cartel in DT lore folded in like under a week vs Moebian 6th lol

[high gull]

A lil bro

[near vapor]

well we aint in these hypothetical 12 hives now aint we

[high gull]

What gang you from?

[near vapor]

now give me yall money

[high gull]

Whos your people

[novel oracle]

tread lightlies

[high gull]

Disgusting

[near vapor]

you better tread lightly in show territory ya hear

[patent bone]

Only as long as you give the STEEL and the Protection money*

[steel briar]

That's where I go on my breaks.

[patent bone]

Oh yeah, how's the Carnival doing by the way?

[warm axle]

i love it. havent touched the swords since day 1 but i am tempted after giving them a whirl this week. may swing a few devil claws when i realise how fragile this class is.

[patent bone]

Last I saw, it's filled with FUCKING HERETICS

[tribal bane]

ah, it's an 1800s union

[novel oracle]

this is the goggles for them

[candid flare]

I guess it's close enough to release to change my name again.....

[novel oracle]

the coolest one

[low harbor]

Hyperviolence op

[patent bone]

Absolutely based

[near vapor]

tread lightlies, iron riders and water caretl mfs

when theres no place to party 🥀

[latent belfry]

Goodnight scum, I will see you all in the morning where I must work but then can scum too ,,,,,

[steel briar]

Iron Riders

[patent bone]

We can bring a party WITHOUT you lot

[candid flare]

Peep the new server name

[spare glen]

omg it’s the vamp loadout

[steel briar]

Mobians

[high gull]

Wildin

[low harbor]

So based

[novel oracle]

im gonna see some of you people running this and being fucking ugly as shit

[near vapor]

uuuh is that the train guys

[tribal bane]

fugly ass brain case

[winter tusk]

its good that heavy sword is so good on hs that it probably cant be buffed for the other classes

[spare glen]

other cole would tbh

[warm axle]

"finally, the servitor class ive always wanted!"

[latent belfry]

What the fuuuuuuuuck

[patent bone]

FUUUUUCK no

[tribal bane]

dr. finkelstein lookin mf

[high gull]

That's some tread lightlies shit culd never catch a show rocking that weak ass piece

[patent bone]

You think I'm giving up my Mohawk for THAT shite?!?

[hearty crest]

I REALLY enjoy the metal jaw cosmetics

[warm axle]

very funny to keep an earring hoop on the sliver of whats left to the tin can lol

[steel briar]

transfers 10,000 Ordo Eddies

It's not all of it, but it's for the drinks.

[obsidian crown]

Heya. You’re a play tester right? Just curious, is dual auto pistol or dual stub pistols more dps? Which of the two is better and blessings?

[winter tusk]

why he have no brain

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-videogame-construction-gif-4960956

[drifting heron]

Dual auto unquestionably for dps

Is that even a question

[patent bone]

You know what, thank the Conclave we ain't killed eachother yet

[low harbor]

Diff purpose between them
Use run&gun for both
Prob run maniac + flak for both

As for 2nd blessing it kinda depends

[steel briar]

Adeptus Mechanicus class be like ^

[obsidian crown]

Yeah I was gonna use run and gun for gunslinger

[novel oracle]

speedload for both
run n gun on stubs
blaze away on autos

[obsidian crown]

Wasn’t sure on second blessing

[tribal bane]

ain't no way i'm using that fugly ass jaw augment

[patent bone]

Any trees for Stubs yet or can it work with Autos?

[tribal bane]

I ain't an ork

[drifting heron]

Speedload out here with its long awaited day in the sun

[maiden bramble]

Damn, guessing we're only seeing the commodore stuff tomorrow

[obsidian crown]

Flak and maniac?

[tribal bane]

even then, the orks do it better

[novel oracle]

i converted combine on them

[novel oracle]

yeah

[obsidian crown]

Not crit rate? Hm. Interesting. Was thinking of combo’ing it with the vulture mark crit immunity perk

[patent bone]

Nah, we do things different Underhive

[near vapor]

getting ahead of myself headass

[high gull]

@near vapor Wait til people start getting into lobbies

[near vapor]

thats some shit tread lightlies would call fashion istg

[high gull]

Turns to my team

Aye where you from?

What colors you rocking

[steel briar]

Hive Scum

Orphan Runaway

Out in the Wastes

The Iron Riders

Bounty Hunter

[novel oracle]

look at the buff bar
you have enough crit with their base crit chance of 10%

their stat node of 5%

float at 20%

[patent bone]

Fuck no! You lot call anything "in fashion"

[novel oracle]

and vultures mark giving 15%

[near vapor]

Show's opps consisted mostly of broke ass dudes

[novel oracle]

and with the firerate, crits happen all the time

[near vapor]

they cant pay for services

[high gull]

I swear

[tribal bane]

fuck it, the black and red go hard

[novel oracle]

like its so fucking unbalanced

[steel briar]

Red and black, just like the Mason Order from Chivalry game.

Simple as

[obsidian crown]

Mind sharing a link to the build you used in the clip? Gonna experiment. Thanks!

[patent bone]

Cringe

[high gull]

I don't see no gold and yellow in yah fit, I can't associate with you

[drifting heron]

Out of respect for my team I will not be running autopistol desperado

[high gull]

Brokie begone

[candid flare]

I know nothing of the gangs but I'm going Tread Lightlies purely on vibe alone

[drifting heron]

I will however run stub pistol desperado so they're still fucked

[tribal bane]

istfg imma be a drifting ass hive scum

going from gang to gang

[steel briar]

🗣️ Death to Agatha!

[tribal bane]

wearing whatever the fuck i want

[patent bone]

I PLAY MORDHAU, I DON'T GET YOUR REFERENCE

[novel oracle]

i run the same build with both but autos are just better for a ranged build ngl

[tribal bane]

i do too

[patent bone]

@fast gust help me out here

[novel oracle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a07920be-dc05-42a0-a2b4-9909bf17087c/what-the-freak-is-an-ammo?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[patent bone]

Oh hell yeah

[latent belfry]

@novel oracle any crowbar clips/builds

[obsidian crown]

Appreciated

[patent bone]

Literal fucking based

[patent bone]

Also based

[steel briar]

I was having a hard time deciding between Forge Foundling and Orphan runaway.. but decided it's more heretical and rebellious to run away from the Imperial academy to do Ganger stuff etc.

[patent bone]

When making a Gunslingsr build, is it better to go down the Gunslinger tree before anything else?

[tribal bane]

forge foundling feels more like a treadlightly start

[steel briar]

I played that game too, Iron Company.

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/hood-rat-stuff-gif-14886301

[buoyant edge]

Hiveous Scummius

[steel briar]

I also played For Honor too

[patent bone]

Thank the conclave we are on the same side, otherwise I'll end you like I did the Iron boys

[vast surge]

Hey gang
What’s the steam timer at

Gotta set my alarm for tomorrow

[latent belfry]

Get a healthy amount of sleep perhaps

[vast surge]

Is this est

[winter tusk]

s

[latent belfry]

It's synced to your timezone

[tribal bane]

it auto sets to your timezone

[latent belfry]

Whatever your discord system is will display there

[steel briar]

True, runaway orphan could have gotten picked up along the way by Iron Riders or orphan got on one of their trains and was canonized when discovered etc.

[low harbor]

Was FS trolling when they made the box cutter shiv moveset

[patent bone]

Too much is just healthy

[vast surge]

Ahhhh okay

So it comes out at 10 for me

[patent bone]

Speaking of, I need to take a shitton of meds

Then get some sleep

[latent belfry]

I just took all of MY meds

Smh

[patent bone]

How much?

[latent belfry]

Uhhhhhh

Melatonin that I get and something to help me sleep

[steel briar]

🗣️ For the Conclave!

[patent bone]

I take atLEAST 14 in the morning

[high gull]

Aye look homie the Show got you covered whatchu need brother?

[latent belfry]

Oh I take like 6

[patent bone]

Already got it covered, and trust (ACTUALLY being serious here) I got too much

[latent belfry]

I'm prescribed pretty powerful stimulants tho

So

[patent bone]

For the HIVE!!!

[latent belfry]

It counts for like 4 right

[patent bone]

Lucky, I need LESS pills

[steel briar]

We are now united as a space crime syndicate. Who's our Crime Lord of the Conclave though?

[patent bone]

My fucking spine is missing

[latent belfry]

D:

[steel briar]

Like is it just a round table of all the 4 main Crime Lords?

Or is there a representative?

Swagger?

[echo harness]

nope

[tribal bane]

pretty much from what i've seen

[steel briar]

Oh

[patent bone]

It's a commission of the gangs

Four bosses meet to an agreement

Anyone who steps out of line, the commission hears it

[latent belfry]

A syndicate ?

[patent bone]

Bigger

[latent belfry]

Not for 1 more hour stinky

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/today-today's-the-big-day-gary-todays-the-big-day-gary-todays-the-day-today's-the-day-gif-6156088520297595003

[steel briar]

@twilit canyon your Ogryn Saltzpyre name finally came true, how does it feel?

[latent belfry]

Uhhh,,, a concordate?

Idk

[obsidian crown]

How’s the vulture’s push perk

[tribal bane]

it's tomorrow in cst and est

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/fant4stic-say-that-again-gif-16690486418948643620

[tight hinge]

so these are the atoma gangs like on necromunda

[steel briar]

🗣️ Ogryn Saltzpyre!

[tribal bane]

no

[latent belfry]

1 more hour until you can say today for me

[tribal bane]

they are way more organized

necromunda anyway

these gangs are a similar scale but are way more loose from what i've seen

[patent bone]

It's a conclave. The gangs cover different bigger areas.
Iron Riders: Transport
Water Cartle: Citizen water
The Show: Citizen entertainment
Tread Lightlies: Tithe and manufactorum protection

[tribal bane]

plus there aren't goliaths

[patent bone]

Goliath can fuck themselves

Inbred shits

[tribal bane]

those fucking vat babies

god damn test tube children

[steel briar]

Deep

Anyone got a screenshot of the weapon list, not only just the exclusives?

[novel oracle]

dogshit

[echo harness]

why

[tight hinge]

damn gangists

[novel oracle]

when kuli just shittalks it is when you know its bad

[latent belfry]

"and staggers barely anything" brutal

[drifting heron]

Holy shit kuli with "its so bad even i say it does fuck all"

[steel briar]

@novel oracle do you have weapons screenshot?

[drifting heron]

Also did the full stats on the rocket launcher backblast

[tight hinge]

rocket launcher not worth the hype now? 😭

[steel briar]

Like just the whole thing

[novel oracle]

screenshot of what

[steel briar]

The weapons roster

You usually see it in-game under the mastery

[novel oracle]

Tactical Axes
Devil's Claws
Combat Axes
Heavy Swords
Chainaxes
Chainswords
Knives

Double Barrel Shotgun
Revolver
Braced Autos
Infantry Autos
Combat Shotguns
Vigilant Autos
Shredder Autos
Boltpistols

[steel briar]

Ty

[drifting heron]

Just go to gameslantern this is availible

[high gull]

Bro living in the past

[patent bone]

Only thing a Goliath is good for is breeding inbreds and that's it

[candid flare]

Western NA lyfe

[steel briar]

Appreciate it but I already got what I needed..

[latent belfry]

Some would say that ummmm uhhhhhhhh umm I'm sleepy

[near vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/gang-sign-trouble-wet-song-gang-gang-gangsta-gif-21429323

hive scum ^

[steel briar]

Can I have your rations?

[latent belfry]

Sure I've eaten enough tonight

[steel briar]

Thank you

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/stitches-rapper-rap-rampage-gif-10285578

[twilit canyon]

Can you believe it guys, scum just 8 hrs away, woohoo, im so happy about this information

[candid flare]

[frigid marten]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1402574693613047992/1444219382124249188/DRNgQxhkvZ7.gif

[woeful hill]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-bunny-bnuuy-gas-leak-meme-gif-8252508646824824494

[sweet grove]

8 hours ??????

[woeful hill]

2014 is 3 months away

[twilit canyon]

Well more like 9

[steel briar]

We finally made it

[twilit canyon]

You gotta add 1 hour to the steam counter

[sweet grove]

time to do a warhammer total war campaign LOL too much waiting

[frigid marten]

Guys how I get convict I not new

[woeful hill]

keep talking

[frigid marten]

Ooo

[candid flare]

Don't stop Im almost there

[echo harness]

Some one edit this video so it's accurate again

[twilit canyon]

Luckily for me I just got to work. And I get out just in time for scumming

[frigid marten]

1 2 3 4 burst burst

[boreal sentinel]

wdym? it is accurate

[twilit canyon]

This need to be edited every hour

[boreal sentinel]

scum is just a week away

[frigid marten]

Acum just a week away

[dull dagger]

We need to know the story of how you ended up becoming the new ogryn voice. Because I'm certain it will be interesting and wholesome

[twilit canyon]

All jokes aside, It did get here so fast, I certainly wasnt expecting a new class this close. I guess we need James to keep forcing more classes without cosmetics, sot hat darktide needs to make another class for cosmetics

[twilit canyon]

Ill gladly tell it, another time

[frigid marten]

Need more cosmetics

[frigid marten]

[spare glen]

@novel oracle do you think the extra 15% from stim lab will help hs at all

[spiral horizon]

so who in here is joining the tread lightlies or being banned from the server?

[woeful hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1444017590748975125/1445297187541225592/RDT_20251126_010405.mp4?ex=692fd565&is=692e83e5&hm=eedf04e16f609b33cd0482591eba7033ce8dba04df386f6b8be77a8e7171b96c&

[dull dagger]

What do we get for joining?

[spiral horizon]

hazard stripes

[dull dagger]

I'm sold

[echo harness]

Crazy what what hazard stripes will do to a person.

[frigid marten]

Uhhh I want?

[shut grotto]

Tread lightlies is such a dumb sounding name ngl

[spare glen]

they have the best colors so i don’t mind joining them

[frigid marten]

True

[spiral horizon]

true

[shut grotto]

I'm gonna pick one that doesn't sound stupid and has nice colours

[spiral horizon]

also true but Lady Steel sounds really cool

[drifting heron]

This is the part where you get jumped

[shut grotto]

True

No one would hurt such a silly lil critter like me tho

[high gull]

Weak ass gang

Show all day

[frigid marten]

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-eat-eating-food-monster-h-reginald-gif-2362901127389079325

[shut grotto]

Cabbit is not food

[dull dagger]

I only care about looking cool. Hazard stripes = very cool

[spiral horizon]

discount the finals

[tribal bane]

as an ogryn main, cabbit is food

[frigid marten]

Cabbit would do good in a nice stew

[high gull]

You take that back

[spiral horizon]

okok

low budget the finals

[waxen elm]

900 calories.

[shut grotto]

Nooooo Cabbit is friend not food

[high gull]

I'm barreling you first chance I get

[shut grotto]

Like pet rock

[spiral horizon]

thriftshop the finals

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/starving-yum-insane-crazy-noodles-gif-17101281798377465708

[shut grotto]

[frigid marten]

Sometimes the pet rock gets lost and gets eaten… accidentally

[neat delta]

REAL

[frigid marten]

Hive scum today

[finite thunder]

Who else scumming from anticipation

[patent bone]

6 more hours

MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

[tribal bane]

i'm gonna see if I can't sleep some more

though prolly gonna get 2 hours max

[patent bone]

Bold of you to assume I haven't already

[frigid marten]

Absolutely getting scummed on I’m so ready for scum

[patent bone]

I still need to take my meds, but I'm already half drunk and can do so with some rum

[tribal bane]

after I finish "The Ancient Magus' Bride"

[finite thunder]

Im not even getting Hive Scum I was just proud of me joke

[tribal bane]

cus there's like one last episode to get through

[patent bone]

Magnus did everything wrong

All he needed to do was keep his mouth shut

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-spy-tf2-correct-spy-tf2-correct-gif-15580627066749528135

[tribal bane]

no, use this one now

[hearty crest]

It's still the first for me erm

Invalid

[tribal bane]

well, use it when it becomes tomorrow

[hearty crest]

THATS WHY I POSTED MINE

[novel oracle]

yeah ofc, but the question is do you think thats worth the high stim cooldown

[frigid marten]

God I wish I could post this

[spare glen]

i mean stims are strong and a cool component but realistically half the time i’m going to forget it can recharge so yeah the cooldown is fine

[young herald]

just gotta get into the habit of randomly trying to stim whenever there's an opportunity

[spare glen]

i’m not a junkie

[young herald]

https://tenor.com/bxXOT.gif

[tribal bane]

time to sleep more

[winter tusk]

Someone fast forward time so the update is here alreadwy

[rapid fulcrum]

consider sleep

[novel oracle]

i just use them most of the time for cdr to tighten the downtime of the ability im using

in this case it gets you back into the mode when your heavies have rending

[steep vale]

Is it dropping rn or later in the day

Midnight release or mid day

[twilit canyon]

8 hrs

[steep vale]

FYCK

I should quit my job

[twilit canyon]

Yes

[spare glen]

you bring an excellent point

[glad latch]

STIMM TREE BALANCE IDEA

So as we know, the top left stimm tree sucks. Well I did think of an idea to make it good and also introduce a new niche entirely to hivescum, one that I have seen people ask for and that's playing a medic.

So my idea is all the barrage nodes will decrease damage taken by 5% instead of 4%, the toughness regen (which is coherency regen only and as we know that sucks) will be replaced with gain 1.25% toughness on kill (which works exactly like Out For Blood).

Next, the Tank node will have True Grit copy and pasted onto it, which means no source of damage may do more then 50 damage on a hit and also Tank will provide an instant 50% toughness replenishment and -10% damage taken.

Lastly "Regain" is replaced entirely with "Rejuvenation Juice", which constantly provides 5% toughness per second and also heals 2hp per second if you are below 50% of your maximum HP, but if you're above 50% of your maximum HP you instead regenerate an additional 2.5% toughness per second.

So that's my idea to making the top left tree good, the healing one might be overpowered, but idk, can always make it 1hp/s instead of 2hp/s, but I want a medic option damnit.

[twilit canyon]

No

[dull dagger]

Would it fit the lore?

[rapid fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-bite-cat-eating-cat-eating-foot-cat-biting-foot-gif-16022730180569289233

[glad latch]

I mean there's healing stimms that already exist, so sure.

[hearty crest]

Turn the last second to a gif and this is golden

[frigid marten]

Believe or not guys… scum today

[drifting heron]

Nuh uh

Scum tomorrow

[frigid marten]

Uh huh scum today

[rapid fulcrum]

youre getting scumed buddy

[glad latch]

Technically correct for my country.

[frigid marten]

Not before I scum on you

[rapid fulcrum]

[drifting heron]

Also correct for 1/3 of my country

[open patrol]

in game it says 13 hours for me

[glad latch]

Well the in-game number probably doesn't update correctly.

[rotund obsidian]

So it comes out at 2pm GMT then

[open patrol]

i hope the steam one is correct

[steep vale]

Group scumming in 7 hours or so

[rapid fulcrum]

matters not 2me as i will be the great eeper soon and itll be ready regardless when i wake

[frigid marten]

Can’t wait to see back to back lobbies of scum for a day

[steep vale]

I cant wait for the one arb post to show up for scum

[frigid marten]

Just scummin all over each other and shootin drugs in each other

[glad latch]

Everyone is about to scum.

[open patrol]

they should let you use your other characters you have leveld be bots like in vermintide

[warm dust]

7 hour left are you ready to cost anarchist and trouble on the moebian 6th traitor ?

[glad latch]

I do agree Ogryn should be able to auto break from dogs after like 3 seconds.

[frigid marten]

True

[steep vale]

My ogryn and psyker havent been touched since weapon masteries and my arb since the most recent rework they would all be doodoo ass

[frigid marten]

Or make it so that you can throw off a dog after 3/4 of a wound is taken for ogryn

[open patrol]

better than the level 1 vets we get

[steep vale]

Sometimes hounds just get off of me

Idk why

[steep raptor]

it would need to be on an insanely long cd to avoid ogryn being the only class anyone played, but it could work

[winter tusk]

this is why i rotate builds and characters based on modifiers a lot

[steep vale]

Like team is no where near nor did it get hurt

It just dipped

[toxic dagger]

As far as I know, it is. The ingame one might be a conservative estimate when all of the backend stuff is also working.

These sorts of updates take a while to fully propagate sometimes

[glad latch]

Arby dog can do it whenever, plus you still take corruption damage for being pounced.

[winter tusk]

honestly it might be a day or two for them to fix some things as well

possible theres day one hotfixes

[steep raptor]

arby dog also wont do it a lot of them time

[open patrol]

i once soft locked a mortis trials because i had enough corruption resistance and i had corruption regen from zealot and the perk you get from mortis trials

a dog jumped me and never left

[muted heath]

Insider info!!! Source my pipe. Getting delayed to next year

[winter tusk]

you can have your dog knock dogs off by pinging it

[steep raptor]

i know

[glad latch]

That's why I usually don't take a dog node so the dog stays close to me for dog bomb and I guess also being pounced by dogs or grabbed by muties.

[steep vale]

Ooof

[lilac crystal]

finna scum 😩

[quiet solar]

Can’t wait to be a crackhead in 10 hours

[vast yoke]

im so excited to give people syphilis

[vast yoke]

there's a mod called LessAnnoyingArbites that let's you 1 click double tag enemies for the dog to attack and ever since getting it I never really got the point of using dog nodes tbh. It's a lot easier to manually direct your dog if you don't need to explode your Q key with every tag

[glad latch]

Why do you need a mod for that, the base game already allows for 1 click dog tagging.

[vast yoke]

huh really? is it in the options somewhere

[glad latch]

yeah.

[vast yoke]

I didn't expect gluttenousfish to be that kind

[glad latch]

check gameplay options, I think it's in there somewhere iirc.

[vast yoke]

should be the default tbf the only thing I don't want my dog beelining to attack are DHs but I don't think you can even get them to before they're aggro

I think it'd be cute if they put both of the dog middle keystone into 1

maybe if you hold Q you can enable close dog or far dog

It'd actually make me use the dog nodes if they did that

[violet steeple]

Is the class already released?

[rapid fulcrum]

yes get on your computer right now

[violet steeple]

Yes captain

[spice cloud]

No

[lethal quartz]

it was doing fine on havoc yesterday

[tight hinge]

[spice cloud]

Dont listen to him

[violet steeple]

😭

[spice cloud]

8hrs

[rapid fulcrum]

i am very trustworthy

[violet steeple]

Damn si long

[rapid fulcrum]

do not believe the nay sayer

[tight hinge]

trusting a ganger, thats on you!

[sturdy linden]

Say. If I level a few weapons to max after unlocking Hadron by just buying upgrading and sacrificing, I can just use 500 gear from the get go right?

Or will I still be restricted to shit stats due to the level gating

[sturdy linden]

Also what the actual fuck, since when did hsword get that cracked

[rapid fulcrum]

rending buffs

super render

[tight hinge]

you still need to upgrade the weapon you wanna use to 500 rating (once maxed mastery)

[sturdy linden]

No I mean, can a weapon bought at lv 7 or whatever even be upgraded to 500

[frigid marten]

Need scum

[sturdy linden]

Is my question

[tribal bane]

Yes

It's just more expensive

Than buying at level 30 then upgrading it

[sturdy linden]

Oh neat. Expensive is fine I guess

[fast gust]

I will probably level hive scum with hsword

Hive Sword

[tight hinge]

i want to gordon freeman with crowbar

[opal jewel]

Scum When

[novel oracle]

hsword scum is gonna be a sleeper pick

[toxic dagger]

mk6?

[modern silo]

oh damnnnn

[fallen coyote]

Hsword scum is gonna be a sleeper pick

🔧 fixed

[winter tusk]

the coolest thing about it is that itll never get buffed for any of the other classes

[tight hinge]

nice Hivey Sword

[drifting heron]

Sad I don't like their movesets

[winter tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-rock-rock-and-roll-head-bang-rock-star-gif-15812025

why would be slightly buff a weapon when we can make an overpowered class that makes it broken

[vocal saffron]

Nerf the weapon

Yeeeees

[winter tusk]

honestly good idea

[vocal saffron]

Nerf Zealot

Actually

[winter tusk]

heavy sword needs day 1 nerf because hive scum uses it too well

[vocal saffron]

Nerf John D-

Wrong game

[winter tusk]

john darktides nerf themselves by being the red shirt star trek characters of 40k

the carmines of 40k

[frigid marten]

Scum need buff day 1

[winter tusk]

too true

we have to make sure that each class progressively trivalize the game more and more

powercreep

[tight hinge]

remember when heavy sword is just pool noodle?

[winter tusk]

you mean now?

[fast gust]

Stim crate may according to my sources

[frigid marten]

Thank goodness

[grand jewel]

🫃

[novel oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-yakuza-kiryu-kazuma-yippee-yippie-gif-4888268826713623188

[novel oracle]

mk7

[vocal saffron]

Now do hs 9

[winter tusk]

honestly why would you slightly buff a weapon

just make it much more broken

[novel oracle]

not on scum

[vocal saffron]

W hat

[vocal saffron]

Rending on ult

And u just Keep it for killing things

Actually good ult ,,

[grand jewel]

killing? no lmao, you keep it for hitting things

[abstract onyx]

Mh the Saw and Dual pistols build from reginald looks tempting. Sadly im not that good at melee combat is there a midrange build of a sort?

[tight hinge]

thats quite a chunk of health gone lol

[grand jewel]

[vocal saffron]

Oh

Cool

Very cool

[vocal saffron]

Goodbye zealot hive scum is my new best friend

[winter tusk]

best way to get good is practice

[drifting heron]

If you're not good at melee you are extremely cooked on scum

[grand jewel]

oh nice

[limber cradle]

Scum looks so stupidly fun and kind of maybe a little bit dumb strong

[grand jewel]

mandatory taco

[winter tusk]

i'm very excited to see a bunch of people get flattened

[gray fable]

change the channel to hivecum it would be funny i swear

[grand jewel]

please let it be me please let it be me please let it be me

[sturdy linden]

Same. Floor kissing simulator starts tomorrow

[limber cradle]

I go to sleep now so I can wake up 5 minutes before release with coffee

[winter tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/grandota-alta-tall-girl-gif-16595164

she'll step on u

[sturdy linden]

A worthy death

[drifting heron]

Can we not

[winter tusk]

can we add this as a boss

[grand jewel]

zealot chat escapee's

[drifting heron]

General is always worse

[novel oracle]

the base duration extension used to be .1s so it was even more mandatory

[steep raptor]

yeah i am going to get to know the floor of Tertium very well

[grand jewel]

there's a general chat?

[drifting heron]

Yeah it sucks

[novel oracle]

but i made them change the base one to .3 cuz wow .1 was fucking nothing

[spare scaffold]

6 hours left, pals

[limber cradle]

Its funny how much of this chat is just zealot chat users ngl

[winter tusk]

general do be the cesspool

[abstract onyx]

My sensory overload messes with my situational awearness so unless im tanky or melt everything in seconds as i die in seconds in melee

[spare scaffold]

in tertium straight up scummin it

[grand jewel]

for cole

[winter tusk]

probably wouldn't recommend buying this class then lol

[drifting heron]

Yeah uh
Might wanna practice before you try scum

[steep raptor]

yes but its a mental torture chamber so keep it muted if you value your sanity

[zenith fern]

insanity fills me

[winter tusk]

its supposed to be high skill ceiling squishy, cant take hits

[vocal saffron]

Wow

[novel oracle]

itd be closer to 2 seconds

[vocal saffron]

Scum has a fascinating tree

[sturdy linden]

General chat is basically just malice/heresy containment

[grand jewel]

I have all but the LFG and classes categories muted and closed lol

[vocal saffron]

Only just looked at it rn

[limber cradle]

Have you seen pickpocket?

[vocal saffron]

That's actually very very cool

Noh

[limber cradle]

Please look at pickpocket

[novel oracle]

pickpocket is basically just infinite ammo

[limber cradle]

And give me your raw, unfiltered thoughts

[sturdy linden]

What the hell, you took like 1 hit and almost got deleted

[limber cradle]

I do not understand who looked at pickpocket and went "yeah, reasonable"

[zenith fern]

thought for a moment he said hands off

[winter tusk]

come on post launch nerf and review bombing, come on baabbbyy come oonnnnn 🙏

[drifting heron]

2 hits in succession

[grand jewel]

why pick up ammo when infinite ammo

[limber cradle]

People taking the ammo aura when pickpocket exists are insane

[vocal saffron]

Oh

Infinite ammo

[limber cradle]

Yup

[grand jewel]

no no its good for everyone else but you don't need it

[vocal saffron]

Veteran not required

[winter tusk]

GUYS WE HAVE TO NERF SURVIVALIST SO WE CAN GET INFINITE AMMO WITHOUT STOPPING FIRE ON ANOTHER CLASS

https://tenor.com/view/yes-rock-rock-and-roll-head-bang-rock-star-gif-15812025

[vocal saffron]

Guess for heavy weapons

Like plasma

Idk how the guns perform against carapace or bosses

But probably very well if built correctly

[winter tusk]

bosses probably alright depending, i don't expect any of the guns to do much against cara

[grand jewel]

they also have a rocket launcher

[limber cradle]

I imagine Cole is gonna post the video of running with the auto stubs

[winter tusk]

^

[vocal saffron]

I'm delighted the ult that gives you insane melee buffs gives you exhaustion afterwards

[vocal saffron]

Like unironically

[novel oracle]

15% rending subnode and 15% rending stim

[winter tusk]

no take away all downsides

[vocal saffron]

Blade dancer is done better on hive scum than zealot

[winter tusk]

too punishing and not rewarding enough

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[grand jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-wiggle-funny-cat-raised-cat-gif-16677521383713822910

[vocal saffron]

Not very good

[abstract onyx]

I played similar classes in games heavy assassin class user in mmos. Its overwhelming offense or defense these days

[vocal saffron]

That looks fine to me against carapace

But ragers r just chaff atp

I saw ur manstopper clip

[glad latch]

So the person picking up the bag also gets the 10% extra ammo, right?

[vocal saffron]

And i understand it's a controlled environment

[limber cradle]

Can you post the sword one now just for coverage please and ty

[vocal saffron]

So shrugge

[hot nexus]

Yes if you’re the scum

[grand jewel]

wasn't this 5%?

[winter tusk]

its your money, but i'd say its likely to be more melee focused even with a ranged build, if ranged doesn't handle carapace they'll have to be meleed or rocketed or something

[hot nexus]

That’s the base aura

[north acorn]

5 base aura

[vocal saffron]

I dont like shooting guns anyways

[glad latch]

yeah base aura

[vocal saffron]

Ill probs just make one or two range-ish builds like i did w ogryn

[winter tusk]

yes this is a tide game

[vocal saffron]

Shooting guns in this game bores me 2 tearz

[winter tusk]

this is the correct mindset

[limber cradle]

Appreciate it

[fast gust]

B-but hsword is bad

[limber cradle]

Okay now I actually sleep

[winter tusk]

on every other class it sure is

[vocal saffron]

LMFAOOOO

[winter tusk]

and now itll never get buffed

[vocal saffron]

2 SHOTTING W OVERKILL ON A CRUSHER W AN HS 9

LMFAOOOOO

[fast gust]

I mean it's not that bad on zealot with charge

[dreamy rover]

Why use sword when you can use crowbar?

[winter tusk]

its bad

[vocal saffron]

Zealots found hanged in washroom

[winter tusk]

it 2shots crushers on scum

you're forced into fotf to make shit viable on zealot

[dire badge]

This is exactly why I play shield on arbiters with perfect block talent and blessing. Mainly going for perfect blocks. Because I too wish to play vermintide but in space

[vocal saffron]

Hs 9 back on the menu

[fast gust]

I mean you do need the rending to make it work

[vocal saffron]

Man

That meme rlly was right breh

Every class is Vet or Zeal

Oggy? Zeal

Psyker? Vet

[drifting heron]

Wrong way around

[winter tusk]

heavy sword is mediocre on every other class, so instead of buffing the values a smidge, we'll just toss it off of a cliff

[limber cradle]

Scum is somehow both depending on which side of the tree you're on

[drifting heron]

Ogryn is vet psyker is zealot

[grand jewel]

lol what

[vocal saffron]

Wat

They dont even fill the same combat roles

[novel oracle]

hs7 is MUCH better on scum

[vocal saffron]

Why's that

[drifting heron]

I've had this bit as my character names for like a year

[novel oracle]

hyper violence

[fast gust]

Depends, melee psyker exists

[vocal saffron]

As a gimmick build

[abstract onyx]

Melee weapon wise which is the easiest too use?

[fast gust]

Wait now we can have an actual race between psyker and hive scum

[vocal saffron]

Powerful, but gimmick

[fast gust]

see how can hit the highest movespeed

[vocal saffron]

Overwhelming majority of builds r purg w bubble

Ranged w team ranged sustain

Vet

Oggy has like half or 3/4ths of his proc'able shit dependent on bonking an enemy

Zealot but an actual tank and not a dodge tank

W a legit ranged build

Many ranged builds

[dreamy rover]

Is the needler weapon chem dependant?

[winter tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/dokkan-dragon-ball-vegito-super-vegito-lr-teq-super-vegito-gif-10304811635174502324

[novel oracle]

hyper violence is why im dealing so much damage here per hit

[vocal saffron]

Where's that on the tree

[novel oracle]

bottom middle branch, bottom left node

[drifting heron]

Do note it is effectively mutually exclusive with HyperCritical

[glad latch]

I do wish FS would stop giving us coherency radius talents with no other effect applied. Like this might be mildly useful for the auras (mainly ammo aura) and toughness regen from Vultures, but not much else.

Since it's called "Loose Formation" maybe allies that get pox bursted in coherency take 20% less damage/corruption from the explosion or something since we're spread out as the skill name implies.

[vocal saffron]

Feel like that would solidify deathblow kills better

Hyper violence anyways

[novel oracle]

to the point you can spam lights into raw hordes and it still works

as if you were using heavies

[north plank]

How many hours till hives

[vocal saffron]

That's... not good

[novel oracle]

plus lots of stuff for this class is on hit, so its better for keeping those up

[turbid fulcrum]

cannot wait to try this with the Rashad Axe

[vocal saffron]

Kind of removes any of the necessary brainpower zealot had when using the hs

[novel oracle]

but mixed hordes you spam h1 and special, both are angled allowing for deathblow cleaves

[hot nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096096735337652305/1421652302493913118/convert.gif

[novel oracle]

but the h1 is a strikedown

so it deals very high damage on the first 1-2 enemies hit

resulting in very high overkill

imagine what that does to a mixed horde

[vocal saffron]

Interesting ,,

[north plank]

does hivescum get chainaxe

[vocal saffron]

Mby i shall tide again ,,

[novel oracle]

yes

[vocal saffron]

Yah

Probs better on scum than on zealot ,,

[north plank]

lfg

[vocal saffron]

Kickz rock forlornly ,,

[drifting heron]

I'm stuck at work till like 7 pst tomorrow

[vocal saffron]

Wait

Who am i kidding

I aint tiding again

Lmfao i have to grind back up to auric

[vocal saffron]

I never even finished that on arbites

Thumbs down brochacho

[toxic dagger]

people are not kidding when they say that hive scum is made of paper

[novel oracle]

this is on hs9 but hyper violence is there and you can see it at work

[vocal saffron]

Aint spending 7 hours chipping away to auric

[toxic dagger]

it has some crazy output but you will get flatlined if you mess up

[drowsy relic]

Apprenrly they made unlocking difficulties easier

If you've done it before

[north plank]

is that heavy spam or heavy special looping i cant tell

[vocal saffron]

Damn

[winter tusk]

THANK FUCK

[novel oracle]

thats heavy special

[vocal saffron]

Rlly is just better

[north plank]

[vocal saffron]

Thank fuck dude

[winter tusk]

my god, doing like 20 games of low level shit on arbitrator was awfuil

[novel oracle]

but remember
if i get hit i take giga damage

[vocal saffron]

Legit stopped me from playing arbites

[novel oracle]

zealot has way more dr and way more regen

and also UD

[vocal saffron]

With all the dodge talents on the tree

[winter tusk]

i had other people host for me once i got to the 20s, it was too fucking slooooow

[vocal saffron]

Seems like that's likely not to happen

[winter tusk]

theres nothign going on

[vocal saffron]

But I like the way the tree is designed

[north plank]

I dont mind leveling characters raw cuz the game is fun on all difficulties just not challenging

[vocal saffron]

Very brave of them to reduce the amount of tness regen/tdr or dr a class has access to

[novel oracle]

you cant dodge gas
you cant dodge fire
you cant dodge every bullet while youre in melee

[winter tusk]

being forced to play 5 games of every difficulty is aids

[round drum]

Uprising difficulty is mindnumbing because of the people you get paired with

[novel oracle]

gas and gunfire is the worst enemy of this class

[round drum]

Skill issue

[novel oracle]

zealot can literally outgen it but not this one

[hot nexus]

Group together

[vocal saffron]

Vindicates me in a selfish way cuz i always figured a class is determined generally in game by how it regens its tness or procs dr effects

[winter tusk]

belief used to be baitable

[vocal saffron]

So it's cool to see how limiting the lack of both can be

Very front heavy glass cannon

And it keeps Zealot a little less overshadowed

[winter tusk]

more psyker gameplay

[tranquil berry]

So why does the hive scum yell about door nails so much?

[vocal saffron]

As Zeal keeps the clearly easier tness regen

[toxic dagger]

it takes 1h to do a 4x hive scum h40 for a reason

[vocal saffron]

And sustain

[toxic dagger]

the class has absolutely no way to counter pressure lol

[novel oracle]

well it depends on the map

[toxic dagger]

you can only try to ball out of control harder

[hot nexus]

Also a reason why there’s an anti threat skill

[novel oracle]

logistratum and vault were 1h

[vocal saffron]

Good class design me thinks

I am ,, alright w diz ,,

[winter tusk]

except the heavy sword part

[vocal saffron]

I DO however HATETH the drip

[winter tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[novel oracle]

hab dreyko and mercantile were 35-37m

[toxic dagger]

ah ok ty

[tranquil berry]

2 hive scum with an oggy for mass and taunt and a veteran to yell at things...

[novel oracle]

wdym this shit is dope

[toxic dagger]

makes sense that the class would do a lot better in maps that exist mostly out of cramped corridors

[vocal saffron]

Legit wearing a fuckin metal condom breh

[winter tusk]

i like it

[vast plover]

wait they already just come with a range of skins?

[vocal saffron]

Is there any like

Clothed or armored torso pieces

[tranquil berry]

The combat jimmy

[toxic dagger]

buy deluxe edition

[novel oracle]

well they have to have some for penances

[vocal saffron]

Or do u all look like u just walked out of a smashing pumpkins concert

[toxic dagger]

this is deluxe edition skin

[vast plover]

looks a little too much like arbites paid skin

[winter tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/edp-i-mean-its-all-right-gif-26702511

[toxic dagger]

in the sense that it doesn't look like arbites at all?

yeah sure.

[vocal saffron]

Imma be real w u that kinda blows

[glad latch]

So are bomber DR perks worth equipping along side the usual gunner DR for HS?

[novel oracle]

they mean the aquila skin

[vast plover]

[novel oracle]

the jacket

[toxic dagger]

oh right

[vocal saffron]

Just want a flak chestplate but i get it

[toxic dagger]

play guardsman then

[vocal saffron]

Vet and Zeal and Psyker

[vast plover]

soldier 76 fit

[tranquil berry]

All knee length coats are identical. This man knows fashion!

[vocal saffron]

And Ogryn only get flak

4 uh

Character design purposes

[winter tusk]

gotta use the same template to save money on our outsourced cosmetics

[vast plover]

the havoc one is decent

oh i mean for veteran

[toxic dagger]

hive scum isnt a soldier, doesnt want to look like a soldier, and wont look like a soldier*

*potential premium shop rotations that involve scavenged soldier equipment down the line not included

[vocal saffron]

Zealot got the bobblehead helmet

[winter tusk]

can we give hive scum cheeta pants

[toxic dagger]

there's also a penance armor that has chainmail

[vocal saffron]

Zealot isnt a soldier, doesnt want to look like a soldier, and wont look like a soldier*

*potential premium shop rotations that involve scavenged soldier equipment down the line not included

I have a zeal loadout that straight up looks like a vet

I run a smaul and a lasgun on it

[tranquil berry]

Gonna be weeks of Valkyries full of hot topic rejects....

[vocal saffron]

The pose

[toxic dagger]

zealots get attached as priests to regiments all the time

[steep prairie]

man, as a ogryn and arbie player I can't wait to play the new class and get the shit beat out of me in 3.4 seconds flat

[vocal saffron]

Do u think the inquisitorial rosary causes some... unwated chaffing w the donglitz w how large and heavy the damn thing looks

[toxic dagger]

pre-rework psyker melee builds were probably the best practice for hscum lolol

[vast plover]

my other characters have the faux-hawks and tatted already this one is just gonna have a little dirt on 'em

[vocal saffron]

U could blundgeon some1 2 death w that thing

Damb

[vocal saffron]

Troo

[toxic dagger]

so stands to reason that cole likes hscum

[vocal saffron]

Oh right

[toxic dagger]

he was trying to make me play taxe psyker before it was playable

[vocal saffron]

Taxe on this class

How we see the cole stamp of i was here

[toxic dagger]

I tried it and jesus.

[tranquil berry]

You know what else is large and heavy?....

[toxic dagger]

dmg output was on point but so fragile

[vocal saffron]

What's the base crit chance on Hive Scum

[toxic dagger]

dunno

[drifting heron]

10%

[vocal saffron]

For realz ?

Cole Was Here

How U Know ?

[drifting heron]

Also the best stamina stats by a mile

[vocal saffron]

Class Has Taxe And Inflated Crit Chance

[novel oracle]

hey i dont touch base stats

[drifting heron]

.5 delay and 2/second regen

[tribal bane]

that is the worst example for hive scum drip

[vocal saffron]

Gnarpbites having like

What

2? Crit based talents

7.5 base crit w a taxe

When admech drops in anno domini 2125 itll have the taxe too

W a base crit of 13.5

I callz it..

[vocal saffron]

Hittin the Tertium vape doesnt fuck up ur lungz ?

Real DAoT archaeotech right there

Needs to be preserved

[drifting heron]

Drugged up enough to not care

[vocal saffron]

Tertium loud pac must be obtained

[steep prairie]

nah man, 1 of the first talents u can take in hivescum is 20% crits for 3s on a dodge

[toxic dagger]

turns out that parkouring across the underhive while fleeing from the copperoonis is good for your condition

[vocal saffron]

Riposte

Legally distinct riposte

[winter tusk]

I'm smoking on Atomanese Nurgle Garden Dark Heresy Pac

[vocal saffron]

Im fine w it

So long as i get my hs ,,

[winter tusk]

They watered this shit with the blood of Khorne

This the shit that killed the emperor

[vocal saffron]

Foolish Reject! I laced yo shit!

[vocal saffron]

Perfect blocks ,, YUCK !!

Right click meanz u have 2 pause left click !!

Cowardly ,, let the blood flow !!

Also pawesome frieren pfp ,,

[winter tusk]

Varlets, we have a mission to recover the good good from sanction redactus 420

[vocal saffron]

Namin my hivescum Oblock-Switchyion no 1 steal ok

[novel oracle]

booting up the main game so i can see if theres an hsword skin in the shop rn

[vocal saffron]

W the double full auto switched up blickies

[novel oracle]

and if there is im getting it

[vocal saffron]

10% base crit IS nuts though

[winter tusk]

i hope the next class has support related things

[vocal saffron]

Esp when having access to the knife

[winter tusk]

be neat to have a mostly support class

[novel oracle]

4/6 of their weapons are crit/finesse leaning weapons to be fair

[winter tusk]

but thats not what farttide brainrot adhd 10 millions mph gameplay is

[novel oracle]

i feel like this case its fair vs arbites being just fucking weird

[vocal saffron]

Zealot has the like second most crit shit in their kit and they got the bottom barrel basic bitch crit chance

[tranquil berry]

Ogryn

[vocal saffron]

Gnarpsneedies aint got jack and flip

And got a 7.5

[winter tusk]

even ogryn can be fast lol

[novel oracle]

ogryn has 2.5

[vocal saffron]

Gnarpsneedies shouldve got that treatment

No business being 7.5

[flat mist]

Kalma V seems like it could be better than Hypex or Klay with H40s current modifiers. Kalma V gets you 25% x 15s (3.75s off your CD). Hypex/Klay can double that that if you can maintain it for 10 full seconds. Easy to do if you're killing soft targets but as soon as you're faced with a wall of armour or bosses? You could easily fall below 5s uptime.

[vocal saffron]

10% is a nearly a whole ass keystone breh

[tranquil berry]

Zealot is about ramping up. Don't care what the base is, gimme stacks of stacks

[vast surge]

6 more hours gang, what are we doing with our time?

[vocal saffron]

Ataying up because my entire fucking bay snores like hogs

Losing my damn mind

Aint gonna even be home till the 6th

[novel oracle]

as long as its up for 1/3rd of the time, its better
and if youre using it for a melee/ranged build, thats very easy with their damage output

[coral mirage]

Melee ganger is the only way to play

[flat mist]

You're most likely right

I'm hoping Uptime can track it, though

[toxic dagger]

oh this reminds me. do you have your builds saved anywhere for reference?

[vast plover]

55% max crit from talent and fury of the faithful crit gurantee with two charges is not bad

[tranquil berry]

80% if you go angry enough into it

[flat mist]

50% crit from the tree on scum is nutty

But I'm used to psyker tbf

[vast plover]

i can't math

[novel oracle]

i need to make a new one for hsword cuz that uses different stuff but lemme link it
theres also an associated description in the message that talks about what can change for what weapon

#hivescum-class message

[toxic dagger]

ty

[lethal quartz]

heavy sword so fun

[novel oracle]

time to edit it

cuz i need to add hsword

[tranquil berry]

Does HS death blow scale idiotically with that overkill damage talent?

[novel oracle]

wtf

[toxic dagger]

you're the scum expert now, deal with it

[tranquil berry]

Yikes...

[steep prairie]

by far best ganger is: 15s stimm that only has 1 small buff and you just throw exploding medipaks every 15s that spread covid on all near heretics

[winter tusk]

GOOD BALANCING

[calm aurora]

what do you recommend for lvling? trying everything or just follow one path until the tree is almost complete?

[toxic dagger]

oh I would definitely not expect good balancing on day 1 of a new dlc class

[winter tusk]

i dont expect it in about 2-3 months

[toxic dagger]

some things will be undertuned, others will be crazy

[tranquil berry]

Do you mean year 1?

Arby is still being toned down slowly

[novel oracle]

id say melee is better until you have enough points to reach pickpocket and vultures dodge
then ranged would be better to finish it out

[vast surge]

Do you prefer the bonesaw or the crowbar? I’m not really interested in the shivs from what I’ve seen.

[novel oracle]

im not exactly sure which i like more tbh

[vast surge]

Both look very fun ngl

[winter tusk]

which is better against cara and bosses

[lethal quartz]

i'm the evil doctor with the saw

[novel oracle]

i think the saw is what people latch onto more

if they learn how to build it

[vast surge]

See this is calling to me, but also the anarchist with the crowbar is calling to me too.

[novel oracle]

which from what ive seen so far
people wont have a fun time with it

[vast surge]

How do you mean?

[novel oracle]

its pretty slow as far as 1 handers go

[lethal quartz]

at face value people will think it's not much

[novel oracle]

and has fucking abysmal cleave

you also have to know what the coatings do

[lethal quartz]

but there's multiple synergies it can pile up

[winter tusk]

shock and awe probably mandatory

[lethal quartz]

to fuck

[novel oracle]

not just in terms of debuff, but how they change the damage of the weapon

[novel oracle]

yes

people will think wrath is better cuz high number
but thats not the case, not when theres cleave in the tree

[vast surge]

God I’m so excited

[winter tusk]

🤔

further testing is needed

crowbar lock in animation looks potentially deadly too

[vast surge]

Both the semi and the auto dualies look so fun too.

[coral mirage]

YOU look fun

Bitch

[novel oracle]

a proper melee build with the saw, melee leaning with some chem nodes rather than mostly chem with some melee is what really makes it shine

[vast surge]

Thanks :3

[vast surge]

Aw…

[calm aurora]

well that has always been the case no? It's the same for Psyker or Arbites, just go for more dmg.

[coral mirage]

Why not use the urple version

[winter tusk]

Pretty brutal, should be dank

[coral mirage]

Or is this more damaged

[vast surge]

Whoaaaaa

[coral mirage]

Still not comparing to old ogryn crusher one shot with the shovel

[winter tusk]

nothing will

[coral mirage]

Oh

[winter tusk]

nothing like that is gonna happen again unless its a bug

[fast gust]

Ogryn: I'm the crusher now

[coral mirage]

U use purple like right after

[vast surge]

I definitely see myself living on the alchemist side of the tree mostly.

[coral mirage]

My bad Cole

[novel oracle]

i kill one in toxin mode then i kill one faster in purple flavor

[coral mirage]

Yes sorry my bad

Please leave a bad review in my name

[lethal quartz]

i'm likely gonna default to being unhinged doctor with the saw

or some serial killer with the shivs

for a while

with heavy sword for when I'm lazing

and don't want to max my apm

[tranquil berry]

You mean in game, right?