hivescum-class

[toxic dagger]

Though I think there's a steam guide with the info already

[heavy fiber]

idk if u would want the machine pistol when u can akimbo

[silver mural]

FOR SAINT MESSELINA AND A GOOD TIME!

Ill prolly be anarchist.... cuz im a giver at heart

[echo python]

Finally, jimmy payday 2 but in darktide

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/payday/images/1/1b/PD2_char_Jimmy_unmasked.png/revision/latest?cb=20221025083742

[heavy fiber]

in darktide u dont need to puff and pass , just keep puffing !

[stiff compass]

Chain sword and twin stubs it is boys!

[fast prawn]

WHO IS READY TO SCUM

[ancient basin]

does the stamina attack speed node apply to ranged weapons?

[lament vessel]

i need one of you that played to tell me in one word, is it worth buying

[young herald]

Almost certainly not

[young herald]

Maybe

[rare idol]

Listen here SCOOMERS

You’re done you’re out you’re gonna get that lex

[heavy fiber]

i'm definitely buying

because it has a playstyle i like

[glossy niche]

What you doin when officer Gill Kangers is on your team chat?

[cedar cairn]

What other guns does the Hive Scum get besides the unique ones

[heavy fiber]

being able to play buffer and debuff is really fun

[silver mural]

Force them to do fent

[astral canyon]

I wouldnt say bounty hunter is exactly "serious"

[echo python]

Infantry and Vigilant autoguns, combat and double-barrel shotguns, caxes and taxes, heavy swords and devil's claw, revolvers and the shredder autopistol

[glossy niche]

Outlaw has a glasgow accent

[echo python]

That's it from the top of my head at least

Oh right, combat blade as well

[unreal stirrup]

knife gonna go crazy

[silver mural]

And the chain weapons, and braced, and bolt pistol

[unreal stirrup]

biggest problem with knife is that your best dps combo is push spam and you can't really do it forever

[echo python]

I knew I was forgetting something

[unreal stirrup]

also i saw some crowbar gameplay from like chocob and it seem to have pretty bad cleave

might not be good for havoc

[echo python]

Hive scum gets some pretty strong cleave talents to make up for that

[rapid fulcrum]

if only the class had three give 9 gorrilion cleave talents

[glossy niche]

A lot of the perks seem to be oriented around making scum efficient at killing chaff with ranged weapons

[astral canyon]

Idk how to describe it exactly but i really like bounty hunter's "self confident arrogant jerk that has the skills to back it up" attitude

[unreal stirrup]

hive scum also can get 9 stamina bar without curios

that what i heard anyway

[astral canyon]

Hive scum also has insane stamina regen according to gameslantern

[lament vessel]

hmm... thank you for the honest opinion

[astral canyon]

0.5s delay and 2 bars per second

[amber sundial]

So 18 bars with curios, yummy 36% attack speed

[unreal stirrup]

that literally vet + stamina regen node lol

[north plank]

hmmm

power creep

[silver mural]

Thought it was 2.5

[north plank]

crunchy

[patent bone]

And the heretics seem like a lot of takers

[cunning rain]

That’s exactly my point, feels like hive scum is the first class without a go to pick for me

[mighty belfry]

Delay is the same, regen itself is faster I think

[blissful gull]

A dollar says the strongest way to play hive-scum just infinite ammo autopistols spam.

[unreal stirrup]

auto pistol doesn't have good cleave from the look of it

[patent bone]

INFINITE AMMO!!!

[astral canyon]

Ye vet still only has 1 bar per second

[silver mural]

Bounty hunter does seem to have some professional sounding lines

[unreal stirrup]

its viable with hc but melee still better

[north plank]

imagine if Hivescum had bolter

[patent bone]

Think BH and Professional will get along? Even just a smidge?

[silver mural]

Its definitely havoc 40 viable, im currently watching better players then me do just that lol

[amber sundial]

oh dear that’d be funny

[silver mural]

I cant recall but 2 vet personalities are hostile to the scum

[cunning rain]

Maybe, but bounty Hunter and loose cannon on the other hand

[patent bone]

Oh they're buds

[silver mural]

Dont know if its personality specific tho

[north plank]

they won't let me put a space between S and C in hivescum literally 1984

[silver mural]

Like might just be anarchist they hate

[heavy fiber]

anarchist is prolly the most hated one

[quaint field]

i think i've just realized looking back on it that the bonesaw is going to be an incredibly cumbersome weapon to main with if doing horde clearing

[silver mural]

Im curious if scum will look like s*** ingame

[patent bone]

I know Male Loose Cannon told the Heavy Ogryn to shut up in one line
But Female Loose Cannon kinda likes Heavy more than male LC

[heavy fiber]

i wanna play buffer and debuffer build so my main is going to be bonesaw since it apply stacks on each swing

[twilit canyon]

is the hive scum able to use the human cosmetics like the bionic parts and backpacks?

[heavy fiber]

the other weapon that can do that is the daggers but only on throwing

[silver mural]

Kinda like female zealot being extra nice to ogryns?

[north plank]

That seems a bit hostile for LC

[amber sundial]

I hope so

[patent bone]

Kinda! Or how the Fem Auth and the Male Prof kinda have a bit of teasing/flirting going on

[twilit canyon]

was hoping someone had a better answer

[silver mural]

Heavy is like, possibly the most asshole ogryn. Definitely up there with bully from what ive seen

[patent bone]

Ikr it kinda took me by surprise

[north plank]

Bully but smart

can optimize asshole factor

[silver mural]

Haha thats true heavy does seem SMRT

[patent bone]

I saw HS with a backpack

[twilit canyon]

poggies

[quaint field]

im trying to go for a frontline rampager and so i might be using crowbar since it looks like a nice all rounder, but since i'm dipping into dependency and getting nodes around there i might also have to consider shivs despite me not liking it being a backstabby weapon

[patent bone]

Heavy is an asshole but he does care for other Ogryns
He's another gud boi

[twilit canyon]

all ogryn are gud bois

[silver mural]

Some are just rough good bois

[patent bone]

It's tough love, but still love

[open anvil]

do we know what level the new auto pistols/stubs unlock?

[fast prawn]

THE EMPRAH LOVES YOUR GOOD WORK

[silver mural]

Autos are base

Stubs no idea

Gameslantern had all the unlock levels

[open anvil]

cool

[patent bone]

Autos and Stubs... my beloved

[silver mural]

Bolt pistol is the last unlock

Double barrel is level 2

[patent bone]

Hopefully Stubs are in the single digits unlock

I REALLY wanna use em

[cunning rain]

Gameslantern says stubs are level 10 I think

[patent bone]

Fuq

[stuck finch]

That ain't too bad

[patent bone]

Time to grind

[open anvil]

stubs are level 10 per gameslantern

[silver mural]

Mac 10s might just be the best ranged option for dedicated builds and you get them immediately which is pretty sweet.

[stuck finch]

The Duel Macs are gonna be go-to for the Gunslinger builds

[silver mural]

Ive seen interesting stuff with double barrel as well

[patent bone]

What level does it say for Braced Autoguns?

[open anvil]

crowbar seems absolutely nuts

[stuck finch]

Yeah, we're getting three-shells as well which is gonna be good

[muted holly]

dual pistols have better ADM over dual smgs

[silver mural]

With pick pocket you can chain elite abd special kills without reloading

[open anvil]

5

[patent bone]

Oh lets goo

[muted holly]

poor ogryns, all they want is more dakka

[quaint field]

huh i would have thought crowbar is the starter

[muted holly]

here comes a new class that gets to never stop shooting

[stuck finch]

I do want to see a Vigil build for the scum. Given that we're gonna have people playing scum by the squad, we may need someone to be the marksman for the druggies

[silver mural]

I do hope this ends up giving point blank barrage a face lift of similar quality

[open anvil]

will unlock after 1-2 games max

[stuck finch]

PPB needs stims

[open anvil]

so its ok

[stuck finch]

Fuck it, WE can help the ogryn!

[silver mural]

Stubs are really good for sniping so might be the better choice, but i also want to see builds for it.

Gonna try all the non uniques

[patent bone]

And for gunslinger, if I or a teammate picks up ammo, it shares in coherency right?

Just wanna make sure

[stuck finch]

The styling shot from the stubs is gonna be fantastic but its gonna take time for people to build that skill

[stuck finch]

Yup, 10%

[silver mural]

You can actually immediately fire a normal burst after it and keep the increased accuracy for like 2 shots apparently

[patent bone]

Oh hell yeah. Then the 3500 penance should be easy

[stuck finch]

So, Vet with survivalist and our asses might be great for just keeping everyone topped up on ammo

[silver mural]

Our perk makes ammo crates go a long way

[stuck finch]

I just watched Reginald's vid on that the moment ya said it. Looks like you can pop off a few accurate shots which looks good

[silver mural]

It will be tough to pick it tho, when 5 extra crit is right there

[muted holly]

or the talent tree node that gives us ammo whenever anyone else picks up ammo

[silver mural]

Exact same place i saw it haha

[stuck finch]

I wonder if it procs on Pickpocket? That 20% we get spreading to the others?

[echo python]

Nah

[silver mural]

I dont think so

[stuck finch]

Feck

[silver mural]

Just map drops

[acoustic quail]

we runnin on crits huh?

[silver mural]

Yeah both melee and ranged do alot of crit stacking

[stuck finch]

Remember, stim your local hive scum!

[acoustic quail]

this should rock with a ranged build

[patent bone]

And everyone around ya!!

[silver mural]

Vultures mark also stacks crit

[muted holly]

interesting, the dual smgs get a damage reduction against maniac (by virtue of their Penetration property)

where the dual pistols don't

[acoustic quail]

ah yeah ranged strikes

hmmmm

[silver mural]

Yeah a tough choice

[acoustic quail]

not much

[silver mural]

Dependency is also more desperados

[acoustic quail]

you only get dependency stacks on stimms

[turbid fulcrum]

I'm thinking that there is probably a way to make the caxe very powerful with this class. Should have good overkill damage and attack speed buffs synergy.

[acoustic quail]

does this class regens stimms as a passive or

[cunning rain]

I just watched the attack animations of the shivs and dual stubs, they really do just try and be as fabulous as possible, huh

[silver mural]

Yes with passive stims its great. But vulture has some fun nodes to it

[stuck finch]

Ruffian I would imagine? Increase attack speed and with stims dependancy for more. Also, make the drug just more attack speed and go to town like a starving beaver

[silver mural]

You make a custom stimm and its cooldown is based on how strong you make it

[acoustic quail]

ahhh, thats cool asf actually

[silver mural]

Pick pocket is infinite ammo on basically any gun its a little too easy to proc at high diff

[muted holly]

the nodes leading to Vulture are just too good for a Desperado build

[stuck finch]

We're walking pharmacists. Harmacists even

[muted holly]

Vulture is the run-n-gun capstone

[silver mural]

This is true, a ton of damage and utility that way

[muted holly]

no other class in the game gets to be immune to all attacks after critting

it's ridiculous

[stuck finch]

Not all damage. Only ranged

[young herald]

Correct. When someone in that aura picks up ammo, everyone else in coherency gets 10% of the value of that pickup. E.g., if you pick up a small ammo thing, which restores 15% of your ammo iirc, everyone else gets 1.5% of their reserves

[silver mural]

Nope vultures is all damage

[muted holly]

reread it

[silver mural]

Unless they changed it

[stuck finch]

Oh fuck, really!?

[silver mural]

Desperado is ranged

[muted holly]

Vulture's dodge says "all attacks"

[acoustic quail]

this is the run i might be running
ik a different blitz would be better but, cmon guys rocket launcher

[stuck finch]

Shit I must have missed that

[muted holly]

they don't just "synergize", they were designed to be used together

[stuck finch]

Fuckin' Tuesday can't come fast enough and I even have to work that day too. Bleh

[silver mural]

Its basically "invincible while firing braced, shredder, or mac 10s"

Just dont eat an overhead while reloading lol

[young herald]

To be clear, when the scum tree says "immunity", what they mean is "dodge state". Basically, you count as dodging while it's active, which means ranged attacks won't hit you, but melee attacks can and will hit and kill you, unless you move yourself out of the way. They just won't track you while you move as they otherwise would

[livid raven]

there is a talent that gives you invulnerability to melee while sliding

[silver mural]

Also technically grabs and stuff will kill you

[livid raven]

so i think you are almost completely invulnerable if you slide

[young herald]

My comment above applies to this as well

[silver mural]

Wait its dodge state?

[livid raven]

that's dumb

[young herald]

Yes

[silver mural]

Then grabs wont work either lmao

And it triggers dodge nodes

Wtf

[livid raven]

oh wait this might be cooking actually?

[stuck finch]

So you're telling me I can finally slide under trapper nets?

[muted holly]

like +10% stamina on dodge

[silver mural]

I expect that to be nerfed to .5 or smth then

[livid raven]

and damage and such

[young herald]

There's a funny moment near the end of Reginald's latest stream where he slides into a crusher overhead and it deletes him instantly despite having that talent

[toxic dagger]

Being in dodge state does not stop trapper net

[stuck finch]

FUCK

Though that's fair

[toxic dagger]

We expected this to make Ogryn immune to net during charge when dodge state was added to it

[livid raven]

the trapper net cares little about your "dodge" and your "immunity"

[toxic dagger]

But that turned out not to be the case lol

[silver mural]

Oh! So dodging just makes it not track you and miss when doing a normal dodge input

[muted holly]

damn, really want FLoat Like A Butterfly for Vulture

but that's a point for a pointless melee node

[young herald]

This is why you can get netted while dodging or sliding btw. Gotta physically avoid the net hitbox

[zealous ravine]

net can ignore dodge state and can go through 30 bulwarks at the same time

[silver mural]

Is dog and mutie and monstrosity grabs still fine

[twilit canyon]

this needs a cooldown

[zealous ravine]

i think the net is definitely from the warp

the hecking ritual was to transform rodin into like 100 nets

[silver mural]

Dont say that... i don't want one

[twilit canyon]

i do, is broken

[young herald]

Mutant definitely respects dodge state. I'm not 100% on the other 2, though I believe cspawn grabs do (but the hitbox is weird as fuck do it's hard to say)

[muted holly]

I don't think dodge state matters to grabs

[stuck finch]

I just push or dodge attack the dogs at this point.

[muted holly]

you can dodge into mutant and cspawn grabs

[silver mural]

Infinite ammo is not as big an issue as it seems, since the guns themselves are still performing the same. Its QOL broken imo, since unlike ogryn or others i cant think of any scum gun thats broken with infinite ammo

[twilit canyon]

infinite ammo is a big issue

[stuck finch]

Nah you can dodge muties. Once that arm is up, you dodge to the side, and then you punish the whiff

[young herald]

It 100% works for mutants. You can avoid mutant grabs without actually moving if you time your dodge right

[limber cradle]

Genuine infinite ammo is a little insane imo

[twilit canyon]

^

[silver mural]

On a class with a combat ability thats also infinite ammo i dont think its as big a deal as it would be on other classes

[twilit canyon]

unless the gun is absolutely useless you shouldnt have infinite ammo

[zenith pagoda]

Cspawn can still grab you if you dodge to the left

[livid raven]

i think infinite ammo is a bit too much, therefore the scum should be nerfed by completely removing melee alltogether

[stuck finch]

Also, if you play Vet right, you can have infinite ammo as well

[limber cradle]

I think it's more egregious tbh. Class already has infinite ammo, now it has infinite ammo²

[muted holly]

the Unload node may make the double barreled shotgun interesting

[limber cradle]

Nah, you have to work for it. Its not "autofill back to 20 percent for one kill"

[leaden lark]

Do hivescum have a different campaign? Or would I be safe to just skip it?

[livid raven]

the humble helbore:

[twilit canyon]

right, but one of them is an ult, that stops you from using the other 2 ults, and another is just a basic node that any build can have

[zenith pagoda]

Yeah vet still runs out of ammo if you're spamming

[young herald]

Tbh the big thing balance wise scum needs is fucking hyper-violence beaten unconscious with the nerf bat

[livid raven]

is that the melee capstone

or ability

[young herald]

The rest is in the ballpark, it seems, though can't say for sure until we play it

[heavy fiber]

the crowbar is there

[muted holly]

what's hyper-violence?

[twilit canyon]

me

[heavy fiber]

there is hyper violence just need to build for it

[amber sundial]

Overkill dmg makes you deal more dmg

which leads to more overkill dmg…

[stuck finch]

Hotline Miami I think? Ultra-Violence is Clockwerk Orange

[zenith pagoda]

Anyone know the brittleness cap on saw? Is it default 16?

Also, do crits with saw apply 2 stacks?

[muted holly]

what's the name of the node?

[young herald]

It's the talent above the middle capstone that gives you 25% of your last melee kill's overkill as damage on your next attack, and that 25% is then included in the overkill from the second attack

[heavy fiber]

there is the rampage button and adrenaline keystone i think

[young herald]

And it's got no cap

[amber sundial]

#hivescum-class message

[young herald]

Hyper-violence is literally infinitely scaling damage

[livid raven]

you could theoretically kill a beast of nurgle with that then

[muted holly]

got it

[amber sundial]

Example of it

[silver mural]

I personally dont agree with this logic, i dont even think its a must have on ranged builds just due to other sources of ammo efficiency.

Its particularly strong on double barrel as the proc partially refills your magazine without a reload. Its funny as hell into elite and special packs

[muted holly]

it's only for 1s

[silver mural]

But thats just my idiot opinion

[muted holly]

that's not long enough to get multiple stacks on any hard hitting melee weapon

[livid raven]

what if you hit/kill multiple enemies in one swing

how does it work

[muted holly]

we'll find out

[night kelp]

How do you refill your crowbar ammo. What if I round out of barlets

[zenith pagoda]

Isn't it only for 1s?

[heavy fiber]

crowbar is a melee weapon there is no ammo

[night kelp]

That's what big gun wants you to think

[young herald]

If you can't get a second kill in under 1s during dense horde, you're not gonna accomplish fuck all as a scum anyway

[silver mural]

Do you mean knives ammo?

[heavy fiber]

the one with ammo count are the shivs they gain charges by kills

[amber sundial]

Specifically elite or specialist kills

[night kelp]

Big gun wants us to forget to reload our crowbars

[silver mural]

Backstabs, specials and elites.

Ogryns give 2 and monsters give 3 back

[zenith pagoda]

Well yeah but you want high DMG Vs crushers and bosses so the 1s won't do anything

[heavy fiber]

since i am leaning deep into chemist is bonesaw all the way for me

[silver mural]

Bonesaw is amazing on any tox chem build

[heavy fiber]

shiv special also gives chem stacks

[tranquil fjord]

i cant believe they added glasgow in darktide

[young herald]

It refreshes with every kill. Literally the only requirement is to do more overkill damage than the previous attack, and when each attack does more damage than the last, that isn't difficult

[heavy fiber]

i am all about buffs and stacking chems on targets

[silver mural]

It does, but doing it every attack activates nodes far more consistently

[young herald]

When you one shot the crusher, it doesn't matter

[silver mural]

If knife throw is really big deal for you then you can prolly get away with crit stacking and tox chem on crit node

[zenith pagoda]

Requires you to have killed trash first, which might not be available especially with psyker

[heavy fiber]

i saw a lot of refresh or speed buff but is there any nodes or build that buffs atk on scum aside from chemist tree ?

[silver mural]

But the same build on saw gives even more stacks when critting

[twilit canyon]

im bout to scum

[zenith pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/ambatukam-gif-11383329966600817188

[heavy fiber]

i wanna stack em fast idk leaning heavy into chemist can give me crit to stack chems fast , at least bonesaw is stable and heavy swing put 2 stacks at least if is not crit

[silver mural]

Didnt reginald figure out a way to one shot a daemon host using the over kill talent

[silver mural]

For sure i agree saw is the play

[heavy fiber]

the other component i remember is that if u want really fast stacks it has to be headshots , crit and the shiv toss is a slow ass projectile with an arc

sure it has aoe but bonesaw is reliable even into caparace dont need fancy backstab , nothing wrong with that but i am not making a sneaky beaky

[silver mural]

The shivs with attack speed will proc the crits very often, and shiv is more like zealot knife throw. But yeah the saws consistency is the better play for a dedicated build imo

Also the saw looks amazig

[heavy fiber]

i hate taking time on carapace so the bonesaw is my go-to

[silver mural]

Hit the carapace with lean mode

Omg they put lean into dark tide

[heavy fiber]

if my team is nearby i can slather on that brittle chem , if is just me i would just stack chem and let it do its work

[silver mural]

The lean mode also does innate bonus damage to carapace btw, its not just brittle

[amber sundial]

You can literally two shot a DH #hivescum-class message I don’t think it’s gonna be that hard

[livid raven]

of the new weapons, is there one good with hordes

[heavy fiber]

watching them pop with splattering chemicals puts a glee on my face

[heavy fiber]

even better

[zealous ravine]

???????????

[silver mural]

Knife lights look decent and crowbar is the closest we got to good CC

[heavy fiber]

iirc is the shive cuz it has horizontal swipes

[livid raven]

i mean i imagine the shive also has shit cleave

[heavy fiber]

crowbar is more like anti monster , ogryn , carapace

bonesaw is the do it all

[zealous ravine]

this fricker has exponential hecking ddamage

[silver mural]

Apparently we cab stack cleave insanely high

[amber sundial]

Hyper violence just does that

[livid raven]

how

[silver mural]

Ask a good player lmao, that isnt me

[heady jungle]

What are scum’s unique weapons again?

[zealous ravine]

hi you get melee power and a lot of +cleave

[livid raven]

double shivs, bonesaw, crowbar, needle pistol, double uzi, double stub pistols

[zealous ravine]

im guessing melee power is STR but they're using old name

and str is cleave

[livid raven]

right

[heady jungle]

Okay so more than Arbie. Gonna assume there’s some base weapons they can use as well

[heavy fiber]

melee : shivs , bonesaw , crowbar range : stub pistol , auto pistol , needlegun

this is without adding the weapons u get from scum's skill

[zealous ravine]

rampage gives you up to 75% power and 50% cleave

thats uh

[amber sundial]

The rampage melee ability gives 125% cleave

[zealous ravine]

kinda hilarious

[amber sundial]

along side all other cleave talents

[floral bolt]

rampage looks like fun

[zealous ravine]

theres at least 175% cleave on this tree idk all the talents with it

[zenith pagoda]

I think it's situational, but yeah insane when it turns out right

[heavy fiber]

rampage is similar button for melee scryer psyker

[heady jungle]

So what are the odds of seeing Scoom four-stacks day one?

[floral bolt]

and i love that button lol

[zealous ravine]

100%

[livid raven]

very high

[zealous ravine]

it'll ONLY be hive scum

[heady jungle]

Good :3

[heavy fiber]

except rampage has a downtime and scryer is lesser penalty

[heady jungle]

I want to hear all the scoom banter with eachother

[livid raven]

lower if you still stick to high difficulties

[heavy fiber]

go nuts on it

[livid raven]

as people have to grind the baby difficulties first

[silver mural]

I think scum will filter more quickly tho, since unlike arbites they actualky are harder to play

[zealous ravine]

good time to max out revive penances

[heavy fiber]

agreed

[heady jungle]

Psyker trained me for Scoom

[floral bolt]

i only wonder now if i want the melee keystone or the CDR keystone with it

[heavy fiber]

scums intricacies is not simple

[heavy fiber]

up to your playstyle , but idk if scum have cdr build

my plan for scum is being the vapour king

[silver mural]

Yeah it has a lot of highs and lows, its also very dependent on abilities. Reginald was saying when playing support mode with the medipack you feel the loss of your abilities a fuck ton

[heavy fiber]

too long have the moebian traitors rule the gas

is my turn to sow chaos

[floral bolt]

yeah partly why i'm eyeing Dependency for CDR to keep abilities running

[heavy fiber]

i am going to make simple custom stim so i can take advantage of the druggie node that gives buffs the more stims i use

[muted holly]

it says "melee damage" and not "strength", which means it won't make it any easier to fight crowds

[silver mural]

Dependency looks great. Just remember to include your stimms uptime to your cooldown since the stimm doesnt go on cooldown till its effects are done. Which matters for dependency stacks if not running a tox chem build for the amazing cdr on stimms

[heavy fiber]

dropping the medipack stim is when a group of crushers roll in or when fighting monsters , on the downtime is all about spamming the stim often and chem grenades

i really hope there is grenade generating nodes

[bronze glade]

the stimm ult doesn't look that fun to play

prob good for premade teams

but otherwise bleh

[heavy fiber]

the chem grenade can really turn a wipe run around

[silver mural]

One exception is the maximum traps build where you try to spam explosive medi packs for the lolz

[floral bolt]

that is good to note. that +5 sec talent is a trap then if trying to maximise stacks

[heavy fiber]

there is build where the medipack pumps out all the buffs before turning into a chem bomb

that alone is good enough

[bronze glade]

waitw hy

[bronze glade]

that's the best use case i can think of rn

max cdr stimm

[heavy fiber]

once it coated the ground in chems , that spot immediately becomes a semi safe zone

[bronze glade]

spam time bombs

[silver mural]

Yeah depending on how powerful you want the stimm you definitely gotta weigh the node choice. Especislly with the 60 second stack node

[heavy fiber]

thats the part i love

[floral bolt]

because the stimm doesn't regenerate when it is having an effect

[heavy fiber]

u balance on playing either a consistent buffer or a deep loaded buff when needed

makes it eaasier to carry pubs

[bronze glade]

idk if stimm supply uptime affects stim cd

and the 5s node is pretty important in actual fights

if you want the buff to be up for a while

[silver mural]

And sawblade builds can go for pricer stims since killing enemies becomes a great stimm cdr tool

[heavy fiber]

chemist build key is 3 part , duration , chem nades and how strong/what stim buffs u want

chemist only weakness is when game spams gunners and snipers

wish chemist have dmg reduction but iirc is just lots of the shield regen

[silver mural]

Desperado laughing when the game spawns 12 gunner packs. Thank you for the free dodge node procs

Then you get one tapped by a crusher

[bronze glade]

honestly i think chemist ult falls behind both other ults pretty hard outside of cdr spam for teammates

[floral bolt]

you can get -16% damage taken on a stimm at least

[silver mural]

Highs and lows

[silver mural]

That stimm tree is the weakest sadly

[bronze glade]

the keystone is good

the ult seems pretty meh

[silver mural]

The toughness regen part is coherency

[heavy fiber]

is not meant to overshadow them , and i just wanna be a buffer

[floral bolt]

i'm eyeing the move/atk speed one myself

[heavy fiber]

is just temporarily turning the team into badasses , in borderlands term

[bronze glade]

is it tho

[silver mural]

Chemist will always feel the weakest to play, but thats just because you sre missing rampage and desperados insane buffs

[bronze glade]

yeah

[silver mural]

Its alot of utility nodes too

[bronze glade]

i'll try a luggage bomb build first just to see how it is

but i'm not convinced chemist will be much fun

[heavy fiber]

rampage and desperado buffs directly feed into things dying faster , chemist buffs feeds = lasting longer , higher survivalbility

[silver mural]

Flashbangs with the tox on explosion does sound fun tho

[bronze glade]

yeah could be ok

[heavy fiber]

is subjective , but i am prolly the few most excited by it

[heavy fiber]

nah i am taking the straight up chem nades , i want the ground coat

[silver mural]

Needler is also just amazing. Basically if you are okay with waiting its more efficient per shot then basically any gun you have.

[silver mural]

Yeah that and its mass reduction is amazing

[heavy fiber]

anything that steps in turns into a ticking chem balloon waiting to be popped

[silver mural]

I just love the safety i think flashes will give me

[heavy fiber]

aside from stacking chem its the best do it all gun , since chems still do max dmg vs carapace just need stacks

[silver mural]

Anything that lets you easily open a shield is great

[heavy fiber]

I'LL LET EM HAVE IT ALL !

[silver mural]

Its not max damage i dont think, but the adr is basicslly non existent

Its only slightly worse

As opposed to bleeds where the damage drop is huge

[cedar cairn]

Yay we get the 2barrel shotgun, that's probably fun with all the close range damage buffs

[silver mural]

Your tox damage nodes 100 percent make the difference and more

[heavy fiber]

consistent self stim to have more self buff , medipack chem bomb for even stronger buff and makeshift chem bomb , chem nade , bonesaw , needlegun, everything i do is maximizing the chem stack on the enemy asap while me and the team ride the stim buff high

[silver mural]

I think the tree has 25 percent tox damage via two nodes. Idk if they have anytbing else that boosted tox specifically

Obviously some stats boost all damage too

[heavy fiber]

i still have problems with ogryn squad because aside from the medipack bomb and nades i dont think i have any other method to stack chem via aoe

maybe just gotta kite around in the coated chem grounds and swing the bonesaw until they all keel over

[silver mural]

This is another reason i really like the idea of poison flashes, you can prolly keep them stunned ebough to start removing a few before you are in trouble

Needler alt fire that is aoe poison can also get great spread when hitting the ground. If you hit it directly the aoe doesnt happen till they die but on the ground you can get aoe stacks

[heavy fiber]

i dont wanna trade that with the chem nade that gives a coated ground , because iirc that one will keep working stacks on them

[silver mural]

At least i think thats how t works

[heavy fiber]

but i would want it to have a bigger aoe

[silver mural]

True but it maxes at 6 stacks tbf. I also really really value the CC so im biased af

[heavy fiber]

is alright we have our own playstyle

[silver mural]

Also love me regening blitzes

[heavy fiber]

since scum is also built to kite i can just slide around and keep prickling them with the needle gun

[silver mural]

Makes me far less likely to "save my blitz" a little too much

[heavy fiber]

i dont like keeping blitz for a rainy day

[silver mural]

Im bad for it

[heavy fiber]

if the size is more than 3 i am pulling my blitz

i am not here to min max gameplay like chocoB

[glad latch]

Well, that's useless then. Should have it affect all toughness regen and maybe make the dr boosts 1 higher.

[silver mural]

Yeah i hope they change it cuz atm its the worse of the 4 by far. Would love for their to be 1 single build for scum thats tanky but you gotta all in on it

Just to have that "too drugged up to die" fantasy

[glad latch]

They could make you immortal for a set time as one of the end nodes perhaps.

On demand until death basically

[zenith pagoda]

Hive scum can out-rat zealot

[silver mural]

That would be cool, still squishy af but you can go ham for like 5 seconds when smth stupid spawns

[toxic dagger]

I think it would be cool if the stims included something wackier like certain Mortis Trials buffs at the end of the paths to better reward going deep and cranking up that CD

[heavy fiber]

from the streams that i see is nothing that crazy

[zealous ravine]

hive scum could defo gone further into withdrawals

[silver mural]

For sure they have more speed buffs. But alot of zealots are passive while scums are actives. Still very very very zoom zoom

[heavy fiber]

is just atk dmg , spd , toughness regen

[toxic dagger]

Yeah exactly.

[zealous ravine]

let the stimm be so strong i cant even see anything afterwards

[toxic dagger]

It works and all but it's not suuuuper exciting.

[heavy fiber]

they gave us player agency , i'll take what i can

[silver mural]

Yeah its very cool but not as crazy cool as the dog

[heavy fiber]

maybe in the future it would be more fun down the line

[silver mural]

At the end of the day its flat buffs on a cooldown

[heavy fiber]

is something we dont have rn and is being filled

[floral bolt]

gotta keep the stimm buffs weak because we have the medipack thing, can't have everyone doing wild shit

[glad latch]

Yeah, that's true. Going max CD doesn't seem worth it for most stim builds, but if the end nodes were better and more importantly had unique effects and not just +10% rending or whatever they'd be a lot more meaningful.

[heavy fiber]

excited to see the end results tomorrow on launch

[silver mural]

Tbf the talent tree does make stimms more interesting with nodes

Its still Sunday where I live

[toxic dagger]

Aye I'm hoping they'll revisit some stuff down the line and spice it up.

[zenith pagoda]

Yeah for sure, some Mortis buffs are so unique albeit OP, but I think some of the stuff should be carried over for normal gameplay

[muted holly]

when do DLC updates typically happen, morning of that day?

[toxic dagger]

If they're a stimm effect then they're temporary and they could also come with a withdrawal effect

So then you're like

[silver mural]

Do we know the time the dlc drops

[glad latch]

Yeah, kind of like how the rampage mode has the exhausted effect.

[zenith pagoda]

Also the slide immunity is very useful, and sprinting reduces threat

[toxic dagger]

Balancing the power, the cooldown, and maybe dealing with a debuff afterwards, and trying to find the sweetspot between all those factors for yourself

[muted holly]

FatShark typically has them set to release mornings of release day

[heavy fiber]

thats what i have in mind , a little taste test first before we get the good stuff , addiction is helluva drug !

[toxic dagger]

That would be cool to me

[silver mural]

Sprinting reduces threat? I didnt know that

[toxic dagger]

There's a talent for it in HS tree

[zenith pagoda]

It's a talent

[echo python]

There's a hive scum talent that does that

[silver mural]

Oh i see

[toxic dagger]

Conceptually very funny talent to me

[muted holly]

so what happens with a 4-Scummer squad all dropping threat?

[zenith pagoda]

It's only useful if you have teammates alive but still

[toxic dagger]

"nevermind that loyalist, he's too fast. Lets kill this other one" grumble grumble

[muted holly]

everybody dropping aggro onto each other

[glad latch]

Nothing, you'll all get targeted evenly if you all have max stacks.

[silver mural]

Yeah a clearly unhinged and not sober lunatic running at you with a crowbar and you go "lets shoot a different one"

[muted holly]

you'd think it'd increase threat

"oh fuck, a hopped up druggy with a crowbar"

[floral bolt]

that should be an ogryn talent

[zealous ravine]

"crazy guy using slop weapons high on stimms and with green toxin? must be one of us lets kill the vet instead"

[silver mural]

Tbf this is the class that snipes longer distances when twirling their pistol

[toxic dagger]

Hahaha peak

[muted holly]

"Is that one carrying a goddamn bone saw?"

[zenith pagoda]

I assume "close range kills" for blackout counts melee too, otherwise that won't be too good

[cedar cairn]

So does Gunslinger and Desperado effectively give you nigh-unlimited ammo in gameplay so far

[silver mural]

"Its green apple flavor"

[muted holly]

"Shit, that druggy over there has a rocket launcher"

[silver mural]

It makes it extremely easy to run ammo inefficient weapons. This class makes shredder pistol havoc viable

[muted holly]

how do you see these things and think they aren't imminent threats?

[flint granite]

Don't worry mate he's got the inquisitional rosette

[echo python]

Sorta kinda, the big one is the Pickpocket talent however, if you kill an elite or specialist when under 20% ammo reserve, it regenerates it back up to 20%

No cooldown (yet)

[muted holly]

watch other classes troll Scummers by not letting them get kills

[silver mural]

Pick pocket is especially strong on double barrel and needler. On needler you only need it to basically infinite ammo, while other guns at least want to spray hordes enough they want desperado too

[muted holly]

psyker assail shards kill stealing making scummers use all their ammo

[cedar cairn]

At last, the return of staying on the Infantry Autogun all game

[silver mural]

Not if i do a zealot and run ahead so only i can kill specials and elites

[muted holly]

that is also a thing, yes

but scummers get movement speed buffs as well, so it'll be a race

[silver mural]

Definitely dont do it, but its an option

[muted holly]

poor ogryns being left behind ... again ...

non-SG psykers as well

[silver mural]

For sure braced autos fucking love this class

Mac 10s are better, but basically any auto weapon is viable

[zealous ravine]

macdonald

[heavy fiber]

eww

cardboard burgers

lemme fix u up with better burgers

[silver mural]

I do want to try bolt pistol even tho it wont be the best on this class, its still a gun that can struggle for ammo at higher diffs

I also just like its kick

[zealous ravine]

hive gangers probably eat better food than what mcdonalds has

[cedar cairn]

The grinch got an idea

[silver mural]

Do a triple barrel build

Pickpocket lets you spam shots into hordes of specials and elites without reloading

As it partially refills your mag if it procs

Well

Not mag in this case

You know what i mean

[muted holly]

sad gungryn noises

[zealous ravine]

ermmm this might not work

hyper-critical may be melee only

[muted holly]

scummer is going to fulfill my "shoot all the bullets" fantasy better than ogryn

[cedar cairn]

It's in the ranged tree

[silver mural]

It also might nkt work if the damage is too low per pellet since it might only work a single instance of damage idk

[glad latch]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-reload-gun-gif-19444267

[zealous ravine]

im not sure of it myself honestly because it'd be very weird

but some people have said its melee

[silver mural]

And the ranged tree does have melee only buffs

[echo python]

Hyper-critical is near the ranged keystone yeah, for whatever reason

[silver mural]

Like backstab and melee attack speed iirc

[cedar cairn]

Shit I was not considering pellet damage, I was considering total damage

[silver mural]

Yeah i got zero clue how the game calculates it

Might be a cole question

[glad latch]

Testers, you know what to do. ||TEST IT, TEST IT, TEST IT, ||

[silver mural]

I know hyper crits typically only get put on shivs and combat blade

[cedar cairn]

Well at least we got infinite ammo IAG

[zealous ravine]

frick it might really be melee only

[glad latch]

rip, would of been nice if it was ranged too since it's in the ranged tree lol.

[silver mural]

Triple barrel build is also still great. Might actually be the best non unique gun build

[placid prairie]

Number one question I have rn, do the shivs have a speed boost on heavy attack wind up like the combat knife lol

[silver mural]

You mean the slide teh

Tech

They do have the heavy slide speed tech

[patent bone]

Teh

[silver mural]

Ive seen streamers sliding all over the place

[silver mural]

I mispelled a word on the internet, time to kms

[placid prairie]

I find myself confused

There’s more to combat knife than just the slide

[patent bone]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-thanos-thanos-snap-dust-gif-16037423944121739362

[placid prairie]

You physically move faster

Until the end of the wind up

[silver mural]

Idk but they are moving faster by spamming charged heavies

So might be the same thing

[placid prairie]

That’s exactly what I was asking

Thanks

[compact oyster]

i asume they do

or maybe not

i do see reginald and cole slide alot with knive heavies

[silver mural]

Yeah im not knowledgeable enough to know if its the same tech but streamers are definitely moving faster by spamming heavies

[compact oyster]

@novel oracle do the shivs have a slowdown or movement speed increase on heavies?

[placid prairie]

Guess I’ll just have to see for myself

[compact oyster]

namely the overhead and thrust stab since thats the most occuring one

[silver mural]

Reg, cole, and mister e all said they think its faster afaik

Yeah the MK 3s i think. They are the ones eith the twist in them

They are easy af to use combo wise so prolly my go too as well

[placid prairie]

Awesome

[silver mural]

Light for horde, heavy for single target, simple as

I love combat blade tho so might be tough

[placid prairie]

Yurp

These are just a better combat knife

Pretty sure it does more damage

[compact oyster]

The other mark shivs seem interresting as they have only sweeping attacks

[placid prairie]

Parallel to mk6

[silver mural]

Slower but yeah the heavies are significant carapace damage

I mean movement wise they are slightly slower. Idk attack speed wise i assume faster

The throw is also great

Two knives then heavy spam is great damsge into ogryns then you get the knives all back on kill

[compact oyster]

combat knife has raw damage over shivs

and id argue is faster

in terms of movement speed

[silver mural]

I dknt think you have to argue, the flat values are higher

Unless someone wants to argue the bigger number is slower

Shields are clearly the fastest sprint weapons

[compact oyster]

i actualy think there is a genuine usecase for haymaker on the mk3 shivs

they have really really fast sweeping heavies

[silver mural]

Oh is mk 3 the blade ones

Instead of the twisty pokers

I mixed them up

Its not very important but im curious if scum has zealots "zero stamina sprint speed" modifier

I think zealots is 75 percent whole others is 50

[glad latch]

Well would be good for haymaker to actually get used on a weapon for once. It's a good blessing, but hardly even exists and isn't on any weapons it'd be really good on, like the Ogryn shield which is just heavy spam generally.

[patent bone]

2 more days!

[silver mural]

Do we know the hour

[patent bone]

I do not

[compact oyster]

its too slow to be used on normal knives

[silver mural]

Perhaps no man does

[compact oyster]

but since mk3 are fast sweeping ones

[patent bone]

There is a timer on the launcher I believe

[silver mural]

:O in steam?

[patent bone]

This is from another day tho

[patent bone]

Darktide launcher I think?

[patent bone]

Based if true

[silver mural]

I guess its monday somewhere on earth

[patent bone]

We still need our Release trailer

Where is FatShark based?

[silver mural]

Europe i think???

That doesnt narrow it down that much

[patent bone]

It's 8:45pm for them

Same day tho

[broken dirge]

Stockholm

[glad latch]

Ya basically.

The Orgyn clubs can use it, but I'd rather take other blessings like skull crusher with thunderous is my typical combo.

[patent bone]

Eyy thanks. So rn it's Nov 30 8:45pm for em

[patent bone]

[broken dirge]

LOES

DECEPTION

[patent bone]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-minor-s-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-10940848928744248792

[broken dirge]

I was simply typing with an accent

[silver mural]

On steam im getting 1 day 19 hrs

[broken dirge]

Well that won't fit well in a sticker

[narrow dagger]

man im playing fkn league while waiting scum

my soul is draining

[brittle sierra]

Get out

[silver mural]

So that would be 1000 hrs where i live tuesday

[patent bone]

So for me it'll drop 4am my time

[limber cradle]

Yk you can wait for something without torturing yourself, it's an option

[patent bone]

Or 5am

[muted holly]

how many is that in freedom units?

[patent bone]

Either way I am waking up a happy man

[broken dirge]

Getting the authentic hive scum experience of being in a hellscape of racists and the worst people alive

[broken dirge]

10

[silver mural]

America doesnt have military time?

[narrow dagger]

ANOTHER DAY IN THE BIG T

[patent bone]

THE 24 HOUR GRID IS FREEDOM UNITS YOU BONE MONGLER!!

[broken dirge]

I KNOW THIS AND IM AMERICAN

[limber cradle]

Not unless you work in shipping or the military

[broken dirge]

This is a spy

[patent bone]

We do. I know it better than the 12 hour grid lol

[muted holly]

guy, I've been using military time likely from before you were born

[glad latch]

[muted holly]

it was a joke.

[silver mural]

Well im not American but i do work for the military

[patent bone]

Being a military man myself

[narrow dagger]

ik i dont wanna play some havocs till weekend ends

[zenith pagoda]

What's the attack pattern on saw? Spam lights for single? I thought it would change with special

[muted holly]

I chose to misinterpret it as "one thousand hours"

[limber cradle]

That's fair ig, but league?

[broken dirge]

I learned through my friend in the navy using millitary time deliberately to throw the rest of the friend group off

[turbid fulcrum]

Oh thats earlier than I thought

[brittle sierra]

Ok so

PA>PA>PA>PA>PA

[broken dirge]

So I had to learn

[patent bone]

WAY earlier

[patent bone]

Tomorrow we get our release trailer thooo!!!

[silver mural]

Ive seen most streamers spam heavies for single

Its a double hit

And looks cool

[brittle sierra]

Oh no another round of review bombers 😭

[tender forge]

They call it zulu time

[narrow dagger]

i also started my 12th cyberpunk playthrough but i guess i want some chaos

[limber cradle]

League, DbD, and War Thunder are all games where my life genuinely got better when I quit them.

[patent bone]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[tender forge]

Any playtesters tried out the good old columnus (vraks whatever tf it is) iag on the scum?

[limber cradle]

I'm like, multiple years clean off all of them, I am showered.

[broken dirge]

0-3 my guy you gotta play some good games

[brittle sierra]

Doesn't it feel like you went thru rehab when you quit?

[narrow dagger]

i just play league but i play 1 or 2 games then i ragequit .d

[broken dirge]

Get you on some rougelikes or smthn

[limber cradle]

I do now, sometimes.

[patent bone]

Me heading to bed to skip a whole day

[limber cradle]

Tbh no cause I didn't get addicted to anything else.

[broken dirge]

Unfortunately college demands I accept reality

I'm trapped in realspace

Doomed to experience monday

[limber cradle]

Tbh what finally got me to quit league is when I realized it made me feel absolutely nothing win, lose, or pentakill

[patent bone]

Burn down your college. Got it

[brittle sierra]

Tbh just wait till the dlc launches and don't open social media

[narrow dagger]

i dont have classes tomorrow

[patent bone]

Social Media is a bane of my existence

[silver mural]

Im so glad they programmed a wait function irl

[patent bone]

Twitter MUST die

[broken dirge]

no i already spent my money

I vanquish you

[patent bone]

Then let's ROB em!!!

[broken dirge]

NOW YOUVE GOT IT!!!!!

[patent bone]

Ikr!! Now I have something worthwhile to watch!!

[narrow dagger]

but tuesday i got a fkn mandatory attendence class. on the day i shouldve been on atoma

[brittle sierra]

I can already smell the reviews:

"Female profanity in my Warhammer universe? Woke devs are puppets of the SEESEEPEE the west has fallen 😔"

[zenith pagoda]

What horde clear then

[silver mural]

Idk! I havent seen it enough to recognize all the attack strings :(

Im bad sorry

[patent bone]

"At first they don't bring the most DEMANDED CLASS (Skitarii) but now we have feminist and leftist hairstyles in our game?! BOYCOTT IMMEDIATELY!!"

[silver mural]

But im confident that spamming heavies in purple lean mode is the play vs crushers

[glad latch]

They're all terrible soul crushing games anyway, well War Thunder anyway, I only tried dbd a little since it was free and League looks like shit.

World of Tanks is probably the one F2P game I wasted the most time on, but I quit playing it regularly years ago, only try it again once every couple of years to laugh at how much worse it got since the last time I played it and it consistently gets worse everytime I go back

[compact oyster]

it def is

also seems like the dedicated anti armor option besides crowbar

[brittle sierra]

Wait who demanded Skitarri?

I believe Mechanicus, but who the fuck actually wants Skitarri? 💀

[livid raven]

Nobody forces you to play them 10 Hours each day

[patent bone]

PLENTY people were aching for it

[silver mural]

Crowbar rips are so bloody and visceral gosh they are cool

[brittle sierra]

The plenty of people:

[turbid fulcrum]

This class sucks sooo much. Ugh it's just a dude with a gun. Why didn't they release skitarii instead??

[patent bone]

Which is hilarious when they find out how dangerous Skitarii are to normal humans

[turbid fulcrum]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/6/65/SkitariiSoldier.jpg

[limber cradle]

I tried WoT once and quit after the tutorial cause I hated how arcadey it was tbh

[patent bone]

I wanted a ROBOT with a gun!!

[brittle sierra]

Why can't I be the mommy thick nid lesbian??????? 😭

[narrow dagger]

Ogryn: big dude with a gun

[patent bone]

Watch if Skitarii do get added, they'll get less cosmetics than the Arbites

[silver mural]

Skitarri should have a coherency node that just gives corruption to all allies as they irradiate us to death

[agile harness]

so many dudes with guns
when are we getting dudes with swords?

[turbid fulcrum]

I think having a low-level tech acolyte is much more interesting than skitarii. If it has to be mechanicus-related

[narrow dagger]

they gotta add a non ranged class for these people

[brittle sierra]

Never, biased devs are Psyker pilled

[patent bone]

"WHY NO SPEHS MEREENS?!?"

[silver mural]

Heh a soace marine class that fills all 4 team slots and you just solo the map

[agile harness]

Dont worry fatshark will release Captain Titus of the ultramarines as the 67th DLC class in 2050

when the game has a playerbase of 12 players left

[patent bone]

Bro they'll solo the planet

[patent bone]

https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588

[narrow dagger]

i hate space marines

[brittle sierra]

Space Marine plot armor is what Chuds dream for in real life 😔

[silver mural]

Then they release DG enemies and turn darktide into a sm2 dlc

[zenith pagoda]

Do heavys apply 2 stacks tho?

[patent bone]

Or Boltgun 3

[turbid fulcrum]

*spess mahreens

They're just memes, impossible to take seriously imo

[narrow dagger]

only the first legion is cool dudes

[patent bone]

Everyone thinking what they'll be in warhammer: Space Marines, Eldar Rangers, Chaos Champions

What they will be in actuality: FUCKING DEAD

[silver mural]

Hebrew scifi knights in robes does go pretty fucking hard tbf

[muted holly]

"my preferred plastic soldiers are better than your preferred plastic soldiers"

[narrow dagger]

im ok with being a guardsmen tho

[silver mural]

So i agree the 1st legion is cool

[patent bone]

I do need to give love to my space sharks

[zenith pagoda]

I'll be a custode because I'm perfect

[agile harness]

nah they would be the medicae servitor

[patent bone]

Honestly same

[patent bone]

Or any servitor

[narrow dagger]

just not the krieg pls

i want to have a free will

[brittle sierra]

Nah trust

They will pick me for the Genetic Enhancement

Gets thrown into an agricultural world, wrangling leeches the size of busses

[patent bone]

Are you afraid to die in the Emperors name?!

[patent bone]

Or worse: Getting Isekaid to Catachan

[brittle sierra]

SkitUASIE

[agile harness]

being guardsmen is an ok fate because you will probably die quickly
just make sure you shoot yourself if you ever encounter drukhari tho

[turbid fulcrum]

Eldar Rangers
If they add space elves to this game wthout enabling friendy fire I'll riot.

[grand jewel]

yep

[silver mural]

Joplaysgames also pointed out they made reference to outside the hive. Clearly we are getting an ash waste nomad as a class

[narrow dagger]

isekaid to current cadia

[brittle sierra]

"bro I'm literally a salamander"

Screams at the sight of women

[compact oyster]

screens

[silver mural]

starts murdering twinks

[patent bone]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[versed spruce]

The Lamenters are what Salamanders fans think Salamanders are

Sort of

[brittle sierra]

"bro I'm literally an ultramarine"

[versed spruce]

In reality Salamanders are still turbo racist

and IIRC used against civilian uprisings

[narrow dagger]

btw does anyone have this

[brittle sierra]

Yes

[narrow dagger]

i have 1.2k hours

[tranquil berry]

Don't play pubs

[silver mural]

Tbf vulkan js like, the only primarch who felt bad after murdering an xeno. He still did it tho

[narrow dagger]

guess whats missing

[tranquil berry]

Lfg is your friend

[narrow dagger]

man idk why players is kinda low performance mode

[patent bone]

AHHHHH I SOOO CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY HIVE SCUM

I need to scum all over the heretics!!!

[silver mural]

Im debating calling in sick

[brittle sierra]

Me playing hive scum 0.0000000000000001 seconds after release:

[narrow dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187128834617790464/1283244590899531910/attachment.gif

[patent bone]

Do it

[limber cradle]

i love that dude

[patent bone]

Bro frrl

[brittle sierra]

Smallest NYC rat

[patent bone]

Most well behaved NYC rat

[sharp dune]

65/100 at 400 hrs here

[limber cradle]

NYC rats gotta be their own subspecies atp man

[narrow dagger]

i cant play it on first 2 or 3 hours play for me guys

[brittle sierra]

Master Splinter pulled up

[tranquil berry]

Remember though... When scum drops... Mods won't work... If you wanna play right away, you'll have to play... UNMODDED!!!

[patent bone]

NYC Skaven are crazy scary

[brittle sierra]

So are New Yorkers

[patent bone]

Oh shit forgot the OG. My bad big dawg

[narrow dagger]

no probs i only use numeric ui

[tranquil berry]

Don't raw dog darktide!

[limber cradle]

i agree

[narrow dagger]

I WILL

[brittle sierra]

Arbitor being corrupted by the Anarchist Scum:

[zenith pagoda]

https://youtu.be/YVeps2goI4k?t=360s

[narrow dagger]

it could only be authoritarian

idk how i write that word

[brittle sierra]

ArBOOTY

[patent bone]

Nah you got it right

[narrow dagger]

damn first try

[compact oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/stupidity-look-serius-gif-26117549

[narrow dagger]

monday is gonna feel like a whole another week

[patent bone]

SPELLING SUCCEEDED. OPINION APPROVED

[narrow dagger]

man i love maul

[silver mural]

Im seeing such great uses of free will

[narrow dagger]

SCUM🔥

[patent bone]

SCUM

[silver mural]

Spiss

[narrow dagger]

which weapon or ult you gonna play with?

[patent bone]

I'm going ALL IN on desperado

[narrow dagger]

same

[patent bone]

I LOVE DUAL WIELDING

[narrow dagger]

with dual stubbies im going full dante mode

[silver mural]

Mag dump then mag dump then mag dump then mag dump

[patent bone]

0 ammo lost

[narrow dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/dmc3jackpot-dante-dmc-vergil-dmc-dante-vergil-gif-18242693037965151911

[brittle sierra]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a077d553-91e8-46ba-98db-89673f567985/porfessional-fent-dealer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[patent bone]

My Killing floor 2 skills calls to me to use Gunslinger again

[patent bone]

Absolutely based

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-gunslinger-gif-9452254487092562601

[brittle sierra]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a07a0cea-46de-4afb-ba97-8ed478d8603e/professional-crack-dealer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a07a1191-d386-4a2b-8511-26c27b84718e/professional-vicodin-dealer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[narrow dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/ocelot-metal-gear-solid-3-metal-gear-solid-metal-gear-solid-δ-snake-eater-adamska-gif-17224591882763115211

[patent bone]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a077be66-a1c9-4623-aa8c-3ce4af979bbd/crackhead-john-wick-high-havoc-build

[patent bone]

Ah shit yours is better

[narrow dagger]

ofc

[patent bone]

Also female loose Cannon made the ANARCHIST afraid of Morrow

[bronze glade]

interesting perk/blessing choices lol

[turbid fulcrum]

Holy shit I just realized that the hiver has a +25% weakspot damage node.

[narrow dagger]

idk about shivs. I'm a crowbar fan mostly.

[acoustic quail]

i think i got the wrong hive scum

[patent bone]

Fem LC: "Y'know Morrow doesn't like that you're here"

Anarchist: "I ain't scared!"

Fem LC: "He looks uptight, but he'll kill you if you're not careful"

Anarchist: "...I'm a LITTLE scared..."

[narrow dagger]

sesbian lex?

[bronze glade]

literally a worse version of this

[brittle sierra]

The lex is the lex

[bronze glade]

they ran out of ideas

[patent bone]

Fem BH and Fem LC did plan to go for drinks

[limber cradle]

Morrow reminds me of Gunny in the best way possible tbh

[limber cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/armi-memes-gif-movie-kubrick-gif-19897006

[narrow dagger]

SESBIAN LEX IT IS

[leaden lark]

Do hivescum have a different campaign? Or would I be safe to just skip it?

[patent bone]

Also Male Prof may be having a thing with the Fem Auth

[tender forge]

Fem lc also warns male anarchist about morrow being sneaky

[limber cradle]

Doubt it, arb has the same campaign set up

[patent bone]

Hive Scum has the better intro cutscene imo

[leaden lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-cat-silly-ahh-silly-ahh-cat-goofy-gif-15009262023119441493

no way

arbites cutscene is so eben

[patent bone]

Nuh uh

[limber cradle]

Arb cutscene was just kinda funny

[narrow dagger]

i love arbites cutscene

[limber cradle]

"When are they getting here?"
"Oh they're on the elevator"

[narrow dagger]

i love everything about arbites

i love lex

simple

[patent bone]

Zola: "They're criminal scum!"
Rannick: "Bitch, so were you."

[ruby copper]

Cant wait to main scum to anger arbeites

[leaden lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604546680288837633/1289226086227382272/Screenshot_3.gif

[narrow dagger]

also cadian vet lol

[ruby copper]

(vet wasnt rude enough)

hell y3eee

[narrow dagger]

i love ragebaiting caidan vet

[ruby copper]

LOOOl

[narrow dagger]

tho it is my fav persona

[patent bone]

Anarchist be the type to point at a rock and ask the Cutthroat: "Bruh, this your planet?"

[ruby copper]

Bro to be a servo skull on the wall at the bar where the strike teams take their leave would be cinema

[narrow dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8VMg7jqx64&list=LL&index=3

i love the last interaction

at this short

[ruby copper]

LMFAO then they end up married

[narrow dagger]

i was laughing so hard

[turbid fulcrum]

Yeah but it means I can basically build it the same way for Rashad one-taps. Which is nice.

[drifting heron]

nah maul is gay as hell

[patent bone]

Fem Maul however

[narrow dagger]

nah my guy is lexual

[ruby copper]

top or bottom (why do I ask I so know)

[glossy niche]

I wish vet had an actual third voice that isn't a cadian dweeb

[livid raven]

Just don't pick cadia as origin

[glossy niche]

You can't pick cutthroat without it

[limber cradle]

I hate that they only put 2 voices on veteran man

Crazy every other class got 3 and Og is getting a 4th

[main wagon]

He just “respects authority” that’s all :p

From under the table

[drifting heron]

Nah hes having a thing with male maul

[glossy niche]

This could mean multiple things

[patent bone]

Bro he just shining her boots I swear

[limber cradle]

"You call it following orders, but over hear it sounds like lickspittling"-LC to Prof, paraphrased.

[main wagon]

Fem cutthroat is much less annoying than the male one tbh

[patent bone]

Jesper Kyd needs to make a hardstyle track for Hive scum

[main wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-lol-smirk-funny-gif-3239349938179125104

I know

[limber cradle]

I trust Mr. Kyd to cook in the studio.

[livid raven]

Ah i thought professional was the third

[limber cradle]

The soundtrack is like the second best part of darktide following the combat

[main wagon]

The kitchen can’t contain him

[formal valley]

can't wait for the release honestly

[main wagon]

He’s unchained

[formal valley]

I do like how my opinions changed as I've been streaming scummer over the last two days

[glossy niche]

Ogryn's an odd case cuz ogryn could have a lot of different previous positions before they got stuck in the warband, makes sense that there's more voice options for em now to sorta represent that better

[formal valley]

so uhh yeah if you guys have any questions, I mean I did playtest the class and have been actively streaming it, so, fire away lol

[stiff compass]

Bounty hunter hivescum here we come! I hope I can use the augmented eye cosmetics from similar classes

[limber cradle]

Tbh I'm mainly making a joke about vet having cadian locked but yeah, I do think Og getting a 4th voice is good. Means you can have a 4 stack og squad with no overlap in persona.

[zenith fern]

"Fire away" you say?

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[main wagon]

https://youtu.be/_bKR_NH-HVQ here’s the new trenches song at least

[limber cradle]

If they released this bastard onto Atoma Admonition would be gone within a week

[silver mural]

We can at least cosplay as the most famous BH

[stiff compass]

Power sliding into the jaws of Chaos

[limber cradle]

That mf would no diff a space marine

[main wagon]

I’m going to hate hearing Fem BH like I hate hearing male Loner psyker

[coral mirage]

Need this on Spotify yesterday

[main wagon]

I can hear it already

[glossy niche]

Brawler feels like he's the astra militarum ogryn origin while bully and bodyguard could have more mundane backgrounds, and heavy's obviously a hive ganger

[limber cradle]

That dude might give an imperial assassin a run for their money tbh

[stiff compass]

The movement tech basically makes him a speedster

[limber cradle]

Ik, I'm an unironic hired gun enjoyer.

[formal valley]

this music is giving me PTSD from...well, today

[silver mural]

No diffs a table top marine for sure, even a book marine, but not a video game marine

[limber cradle]

Nah he absolutely shreds a SM2 marine tbh

Sm2 marines be moving slower than the DT characters

[glossy niche]

John "titus" warhammer has too much plot armor

[formal valley]

honestly I feel a lot more in control of my Darktide character than SM 2

[drifting heron]

SM2 is just rollspam right

[limber cradle]

You are, SM2 has so many long and locked combat anims

[silver mural]

Not titus, but maybe one of the losers.

Boltguns marine is a minor god im pretty sure XD

[formal valley]

it's also just staggerspam I swear

[glossy niche]

SM2 feels very weighty which I think is the point

[limber cradle]

Parry/Gunstrike spam ime

[main wagon]

SM2 stagger feels like shit imo

[formal valley]

like 90% of the damage I take in a run is cus one enemy got a hit off on me, and then other enemies just piled on

[drifting heron]

Shitty soulslike

Got it

[main wagon]

Like swinging my charged up, astartes thunder hammer

[limber cradle]

Yk what, I'm gonna play a fresh Hired Gun save file i think

[main wagon]

The enemy doesnt give a fuck

[limber cradle]

Genuinely yes.

[compact oyster]

sm2 has very tactical combat

and you need to pace well

[drifting heron]

I keep seeing the game at 60% off and keep getting tempted to buy it then remember it just doesn't look fun every time I see it

[stiff compass]

I’m gonna recreate him best I can, use chain swords and the dual stubs

[main wagon]

Tactically melting my brain out of my ears as I ground slam another group of Nids

[limber cradle]

I played SM2 campaign on Angel of Death when it released and I turned my brain off parrying and gunstriking until the end and then I never wanted to see SM2 pve again

[formal valley]

honestly? I thought I'd really like SM 2

[main wagon]

I tried the demo when they released it

[formal valley]

especially the operations and all the playable space marines and their intricacies

[main wagon]

I have a buddy who loves it and I wanted to give it a try

[silver mural]

Sm2 wants you to feel the strength of a marine, alot of ripping things apart and throwing little nids around so hard they explode

[drifting heron]

I tried to play the demo

[formal valley]

but every enemy is so goddamn tanky

[main wagon]

^^

[limber cradle]

Sm1 superfan here, played in clan tournaments up until SM2 released, I wanted so badly for SM2 to be something I loved and it just is not.

[main wagon]

My space marine doesnt feel like a space marine

[drifting heron]

it took 5 minutes for me to hit the main menu and then it crashed trying to play a pre rendered cutscene

[formal valley]

like I'm playing a Heavy, with a giant fucking heavy bolter that rips things to shreds, why does this random Chaos Spawn take 50 shots to put down

[main wagon]

Ironically darktide is a better power fantasy

And you’re a crackhead

[silver mural]

Darktide is such a clean combat system its prolly in my top 5

[formal valley]

I love the male anarchist VA

[limber cradle]

Fatalist is tbh one of the best personalities they've put into darktide, I love that guy

[main wagon]

I hope Fatalist and Outlaw have fun interaction s

[brisk halo]

It’s fun i just have a preference for guns that actually do things and don’t tick down a health bar

[patent bone]

The shooting in Darktide is SOOO much fun

[patent bone]

Oh I'm sure

[limber cradle]

M Anarchist sounds like the sex pistols vocalist to me