hivescum-class

[dapper prairie]

Does shivs get uncanny strike lol

Theres no way they get uncanny

[limber cradle]

Yes but uncanny looks nerfed

[oblique basin]

I would like to know too

[novel oracle]

This is what I have so far
Have to change stuff around cuz of last minute changes for other builds

#hivescum-class message

[limber cradle]

Do you prefer macs or pistols rn?

[dapper prairie]

Wheres the stim builds cole

[novel oracle]

Macs?

[dapper prairie]

[limber cradle]

The smgs

[novel oracle]

Read what I said again lmao

[novel oracle]

Stubs

[silver mural]

Yeah and the tox stacks apply on any hit that isnt shield blocked so it's effective vs all armour types from the looks of it.

Still its a DOT so can be trickier to play around and people can kill steal accidentally

[tepid cosmos]

dual autopistols

[novel oracle]

100%

[tepid cosmos]

i like the duals more

[limber cradle]

Feel more consistent to you?

Or is it the style

[tepid cosmos]

both are really fun though

[novel oracle]

More they fit what I need them for in more of my builds

[limber cradle]

Gotcha gotcha

Any thoughts on crowbar rn?

[silver mural]

The stubs and macs seem to have similar armour pen from what ive seen. Is it possible to make either kill carapace enemies effectively?

[limber cradle]

You never really want to shoot carapace anyway ime

[hardy spruce]

half life 3 on december 2nd

[limber cradle]

I can't wait for the mod to replace crowbars audio with HL1 sounds

[tepid cosmos]

if you are wanting to shoot carapace take the needle pistol

[dapper prairie]

Nope they kill cara super slow

[silver mural]

For sure, but like if i dreamed of gun only is it possible to make it work with them haha

[dapper prairie]

Needle guns the only one that shreds them in decent time

[novel oracle]

The autos crit boost and chains are MASSIVE
While not amazing, while you've got desperado up with ranged and crit buffs, you can kill carapace in havoc in an okay time

[silver mural]

That makes sense, that thing cares little for what its targets armour type is from what ive seen

[novel oracle]

It just requires juice, but its only serviceable

[silver mural]

Thats what i was hoping for, keeping the dream alive haha

[zealous ravine]

4 days left to buff dclaw 🔥

[novel oracle]

You can get 15% rending in desp and 25% in the stim too

[silver mural]

I saw that yeah

[novel oracle]

When running ranged build dual autos in havoc i was definitely shooting crushers cuz it was faster than meleeing them without the proper melee juice

[silver mural]

I know the class is squishy but im also curious what its top durability could be with the DR stim and the associated DR in the chem and melee parts of the tree

[silver mural]

Oh okay! So with a skewed build its possible for the gun to be the better option within that context

[stark otter]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3b3ZKemJbcEM7nEfuQt0pa?si=ZAHnjlIpSFa02pWAy_Ontg

[grand jewel]

@novel oraclewhats the launcher like?

[tepid cosmos]

it go bang

and kill thing real good

[arctic imp]

You don’t have to run that much CDR, just enough.

[silver mural]

Also, i chocobs video they fires the boom bringer more then 3 times in their gameplay. Is this because their is a way to regen charges within the tree somehow or did they just use cheats to show off the abilities

[mental igloo]

there's a talent that adds one blitz charge

[dapper prairie]

More than 3 is funjy

[silver mural]

I saw that, but that doesn't get to 4 shots so im a little confused

[mental igloo]

oh I misread oops idk then

[novel oracle]

71% dr during punk rage with max stamina and near max defense stim with 4 stacks of chem dep for a few seconds after a reload

[silver mural]

Its possible im making a mistake and they picked up a drop i missed or i miscounted

[tepid cosmos]

I think the default charges of boom bringer was nerfed to 2 when they greatly buffed its damage

[grand jewel]

how much does it do

[tepid cosmos]

LOTS

[low harbor]

1 tap bulwark on hitting shield

[novel oracle]

A bit more than 10k iirc

[grand jewel]

[dapper prairie]

Wheres the stims cole

U didnt show the stim

[tepid cosmos]

it should be one hitting anything that isnt a boss, captain or the twins

[silver mural]

Omg wait they could have used older footage! That could explain it

[novel oracle]

I didnt highlight over every node but I had a section explaining what buffs are in what branch and how the stims work

[dapper prairie]

Give number and red blue yellow

Im filthy copy paster

[novel oracle]

Bro im on my phone at work

[dapper prairie]

[grand jewel]

rocket propelled Krak grenade

[dapper prairie]

Worker

[tepid cosmos]

such a shame you are the only tester here

[silver mural]

You are doing the lords work, you have great content and builds

[novel oracle]

Its shit like 4% strength
4% atk speed and -15% stam cost and 20% swap speed
6.25% cdr
4% dr and 20% toughness replenishment

[dapper prairie]

Dipped a bit into every tree i see

[stark otter]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FJOrg7L7K6o?si=zU_CTjIEg8pzXP5k

[novel oracle]

All the final nodes are stiff like
10% dodge distance, speed, etc
50% reload speed
Stun/slowdown immune
10-15% rending
5-10% crit
10-25% finesse
25% cdr
75% cdr on ranged kill for 1s
75% cdr on melee kill for 1s

[grand jewel]

blackouts are 💀 just seeing video stuff on them

thats wild

[silver mural]

The mac 10s look like they love reload speed. Its a long animation!

Especially compared to the stubs from what ive seen

[main wagon]

I want to love the rocket launcher but the blackouts are just looking at me like

[grand jewel]

any reason to take chem nades? atp lol

[silver mural]

You guys know the talent that makes explosives spread tox chem? Does that work on the flashbangs

[grand jewel]

boom bringer looking at me nasty style and blackouts look insane

[covert obsidian]

New channel!

[silver mural]

It might have a larger AOE. But it does seem like the talent that makes blitz explosions spread chem might make it less of an option. But im sure it has smth that you could want it for

[steep vale]

I cant wait to not know what to name my scum

Probably like

[tender forge]

Hope they change the chem pack ability to work with dependency

[steep vale]

Crime john or smth

[main wagon]

"Derek"

Street Physician is a good one too

[silver mural]

Hiv(e) negative maybe

Im not good at thinking of puns

[covert obsidian]

I am so gonna buy this

for the dual stub pistols

[silver mural]

The obvious one is a breaking bad reference

[grand jewel]

the deluxe drip looks neat

[steep vale]

John fentanyl seems solid

Might do john fentanyl

[grand jewel]

arbites cosmetic but good

[covert obsidian]

I saw a bit don't wanna spoil myself more

[tepid cosmos]

calling my character mike and telling people how we had a good fucking thing

[silver mural]

If you use the hair cosmetic and the dlc armour you look like a famous bounty hunter in the lore

[grand jewel]

bad chat to be in

[covert obsidian]

comedy gold

[novel oracle]

This class is where im really thinking reload speed is goated as fucj

[covert obsidian]

Fair maybe just came to say hell yeah

[novel oracle]

Esp to both maintain and extend desperado to take the most advantage of the free ammo and immunity

[grand jewel]

the more you can do that the less ammo you use lol

whack class

[silver mural]

It makes sense to me, the classes ranged options want ti ve close so anything that makes that feel safer to do is good. When you are 15 meters from your target you dont want to be playing with mags

Plus the reload buffs talents as you said

[reef spoke]

I wonder how far I can abuse this and take the Stimm ult instead

[novel oracle]

I pushed so hard to get that close range kill reload speed up from 15%

It was such a nothingburger

[reef spoke]

20% for a 750 reserve gun should be enough for like 2 mags

[brittle sierra]

I have a feeling that this will be the most common talent tree for Scum

[silver mural]

Weapons like bolters cna kill with like 2 to 3 shots and get 20 bullets back lmao

[reef spoke]

DRUGS FOR EVERYONE

[silver mural]

Needler on a tox chem build i think can also kill most specials in 2 shots with the dot. But im guessing at that

[brittle sierra]

i already made a build that might break the game assuming it works as I think it will: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a077d553-91e8-46ba-98db-89673f567985/porfessional-fent-dealer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[reef spoke]

idk how long the medbox lasts though so I might need the 15s node for the ult

[silver mural]

Is that the guy who you can purchase goods from in resident evil

[brittle sierra]

WHHATAYA BUYINN?

[tepid cosmos]

like cole was saying earlier cdr really has alot less value on this class than other classes

[novel oracle]

Idk about that one

[silver mural]

Its a very good reference ❤️

[reef spoke]

Yeah I'm banking that I have enough cooldown reduct from my talents that the 75s cooldown and the 60s cooldown on the ult is worth the +20% strength, 16% attack speed, 10% crit stim

[tepid cosmos]

on the other hand attack speed feels so fucking fun

[tepid cosmos]

and strength is just i kill you faster drugs

[novel oracle]

Im taking my stim for cdr sure but you dont need much
Im gonna have it be half and half cdr and defense, for a lower cooldown

[reef spoke]

hence why I got both 😎

[brittle sierra]

assuming the CDR stacks the way it is supposed to, you are giving the whole team 175% cdr

plus, you can spam crates with booby trap

[novel oracle]

So i stim after punk rage and to get it back, and my stim will come back naturally while the ability is up

[silver mural]

Oh its multiplicative?

[reef spoke]

this assumes your team stands in the AOE and I played Nuncio enough to get how that goes :c

[dapper prairie]

What is booby trap

[tepid cosmos]

using your crate uses the stimm, cdr does not refresh stimm

[brittle sierra]

no you dont

[tepid cosmos]

so you will be waiting for your stimm

[dapper prairie]

U can take the node where people smoke it then leave so its actually better than it looks

[brittle sierra]

no it does not

[reef spoke]

the humble knife zealot enters the chat

[silver mural]

Luckily they gave us a node for that very issue

[tepid cosmos]

yes it does

[sacred estuary]

Hive scum using the dual stub pistols got me feeling like Revolver Ocelot

[brittle sierra]

no

[tepid cosmos]

lol ok then

[silver mural]

Dont fight :(

[reef spoke]

stares at teammates that rush off and die

[brittle sierra]

the ability doesn't consume anything, from what I have read from the talent forums on steam

[tepid cosmos]

well from what i have PLAYED

[brittle sierra]

so unless you have proof against it, I would love to see it

[tepid cosmos]

it does

[dapper prairie]

The ability eats the stim

[silver mural]

Oh does anyone know if the cartel special can be put onto an ally like a normal stim or is the medipack ult the only way to buff allies

[dapper prairie]

Pretty sure someone said that

[reef spoke]

if the ability eats the stimm then it's dogshit. Surely someone tested that

[dapper prairie]

Was it the reginald video

[hardy spruce]

if only there was a playtester around to confirm that

[grand jewel]

why lol

[dapper prairie]

I think reginald said it in the vid u cant eat ur stim with the pack

[silver mural]

I wonder if it means the ults cooldown is the same as your stim?

[tepid cosmos]

you are giving the effect of it to 4 people

[brittle sierra]

can I see a playtest? because kuli says one thing and you say another

[novel oracle]

IM WORKING

IM TRYING MY BEST

[tepid cosmos]

those people potentially being classes that never should have got those effects

[reef spoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O16jW6uyXeA

It doesn't

[novel oracle]

What was the question

[reef spoke]

Chocob posted gameplay

you can use stimm and medbox independently

[brittle sierra]

does the supply pack consume the stimm when you use it?

[novel oracle]

So did i....
But whatever.....

[novel oracle]

Yes

[tepid cosmos]

alot of changes happened very recently

[brittle sierra]

so why doesnit it when kuli use it or choco?

[tepid cosmos]

like end of media

[reef spoke]

damn

[tepid cosmos]

so a good amount of the videos are dated

[novel oracle]

Because it only was implemented yesterday

[hardy spruce]

every copy of darktide is personalised

[brittle sierra]

oh that makes sense

[silver mural]

Hive scum got a ton of changes last minute

[reef spoke]

Desperado it is I guess

[novel oracle]

Plenty of changes were still added during media build

[reef spoke]

rip my drug dealer build

[novel oracle]

Which is why i was allowed to post this

[brittle sierra]

dam supply is from broken to useless now

[novel oracle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FJOrg7L7K6o

[reef spoke]

indeed, at least we have Rampage and Desperado

[silver mural]

It could still work with a little tinkering maybe!

Its still a powerful team wide buff

[hardy spruce]

oh yeah that would be very stupid if it didn't use the stim

makes sense

[steep vale]

Wait chat what do the voices sound like

[silver mural]

Gifting the right class massive cdr or other stuff could make other classes go a little insane

[brittle sierra]

no because to get the max chem dependency buff, you need to use the stimm not the supply crate

[steep vale]

Is there an example video

[hardy spruce]

yeah

[novel oracle]

This is also when fully speccing into the cdr tree gave uh
+200% cdr

[brittle sierra]

which means you can't get the buff if you use the supply crate

[tepid cosmos]

like this is the best example as to why it needs to use stimm

[reef spoke]

you're trading team buffs for cooldown reduct

[steep vale]

You got a link?

[reef spoke]

A LOT of cooldown reduct

[sacred estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AgaTBQ0apg

[steep vale]

So cute thank you

[hardy spruce]

vermintide called said they wanted their purple pot back

[hardy spruce]

No

[steep vale]

:(

[hardy spruce]

Sorry

I watched it for myself tho

[steep vale]

Im getting double employed on sunday now

[silver mural]

Reasonable number

[hardy spruce]

dude

[brittle sierra]

@novel oracle did they perhaps buff supply crate to now give you a stack of chemical dependency?

[novel oracle]

It stacked with each crate

[novel oracle]

[calm aurora]

I don't understand what is happening and what changed

[brittle sierra]

wow, so it's actually useless now

[reef spoke]

Desperado time 💪

[brittle sierra]

nah they need to change something

[tepid cosmos]

#hivescum-class message

[novel oracle]

It consumes the stim now so you cant use both independently and get both effects
Stim values also got changed

[hardy spruce]

thanks for designing developing and balancing the class btw cole

really appreciate it

[reef spoke]

I pray ;c

[brittle sierra]

so it's going to be fixed or does "flagged" mean they will look at it, which means nothing will happen 🛌🏻

[reef spoke]

I hope this talent isn't touched, I really want to see if I can make a pseudo-infinite ammo build

[silver mural]

Yeah it seems weird for the chemist ult to not work with its capstone

[dapper prairie]

Yeah its very weird

[novel oracle]

Should be changed by launch or shortly after

[tepid cosmos]

first one

[dapper prairie]

U would think right side synergized all the way down

But nope u dip to the middle portion

[tepid cosmos]

just dont know if it can happen for tuesday

[silver mural]

Tbf even without it desperado and cdr stacking gives infinite ammo so often its very hard to run out from what ive seen

[tepid cosmos]

cause of console hoops that need to be jumped through and fatshark not working weekend

[dapper prairie]

Chemical dependency apparently makes ur cd so fast that u might not have a stim for ur crate

[reef spoke]

The idea for me was to see if I can get infinite ammo outside of desperado and stuff

[silver mural]

Oh i see! Then yes hopefully its unchanged

[reef spoke]

so I can get the powerful melee buffs of rampage but pick up ranged talents so I can get some really strong hybrid

[brittle sierra]

that's fine if you have Sample collector and go bone cleaver

assuming you use the CDR buff, you can get the pack back up by around 13 seconds, the only problem is making sure the stimm also comes back around that time slot

[covert obsidian]

My friend is telling me everything

holy shit this is so fun

I am buying this immediately

[brittle sierra]

which isn't that important if you have Practice deployment

[tepid cosmos]

very fun class to play

[dapper prairie]

Oh yeah practice seems cool even if u dont go for dependency

[tepid cosmos]

a few rough edges but some sanding will fix that

[silver mural]

And its a great ammo node since the thing scales better into high diff where more specials show up. Its basically vet on steroids but with more caveats and selfish since its only you

[dapper prairie]

Cos u can just cdr farm with two nodes

Then u get ur ult back

Its like having a cd on it

[reef spoke]

yeah hopefully we can get some funny drug spam team synergy when like 80% of lobbies are like only gangers

[dapper prairie]

The class is very cool

[brittle sierra]

yeah thats what Im going for, unfortunately its fucking gutted rn https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a077d553-91e8-46ba-98db-89673f567985/porfessional-fent-dealer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[calm aurora]

The trailer was bad so the class could be cool

[reef spoke]

indeed, I've been thinking some really strong drug builds that feed into ranged damage and use the +20% ammo regen node to keep the sustain

[steep vale]

I think if i make john fentanyl ima use anarchist but if i make jane fentanyl ill use bounty hunter

[dapper prairie]

Just go middle capstone instead no?

[tepid cosmos]

this will still work, you can deploy crates without stimm just for the explosive to make use of the ones you will be getting while you dont have stimm

[novel oracle]

[crisp cipher]

I'm so excited for the class drop oh my god

[reef spoke]

but 15% speed on the left keystone :c

ZOOM

[tepid cosmos]

just could synergise better

[brittle sierra]

yeah but without the cdr, Dependency is dogshit

[covert obsidian]

This literally sounds like the quintessential Rogue

and I am a Rogue main

and you use both melee and ranged omg

it's Weapon Specialist Vet all over again

[blissful gull]

wait what?

[covert obsidian]

I am buying htis asap

[reef spoke]

yeah I'm thinking Medstimm build with Vulture ult as my drug build now

[dapper prairie]

If u were doing practiced for stimmpack why would u need dependency

[reef spoke]

dependency doesn't seem worth if ult and stimm are linked

[novel oracle]

Chem dependency was proposed as stim cdr by us

But NOPE!

[reef spoke]

meanwhile +15% speed ranged build drugged up is funny

[novel oracle]

[tepid cosmos]

stimm crate spends your stimm but doesnt give you a dependency stack rn
this is slated to be changed for or soon after launch

[novel oracle]

I mean

Its in the name

Chemical dependency

[steep vale]

Cole what did you name your scum

[novel oracle]

This implies the entire build hinges on stims

[reef spoke]

oh shit right I need to get a funny name

[steep vale]

Mine is gonna be jane fentanyl

[reef spoke]

I don't think I can top "Please Resist" but I will try ;c

[blissful gull]

wait so, dropping the stim box consumes your own stim so you cant get chemical dependency stacks?

[tranquil berry]

the creativity of a 12 yo tiktoker that learned a new word for "peepee". well done.

[steep vale]

Hey man thats mean

I thought it was silly

[tepid cosmos]

stimm crate will spend any stimm you have to make that stimm a team buff

[novel oracle]

Not yet but should be fixed at launch or shortly after

[tepid cosmos]

currently wont give the user a stack of dependency though

this will be being changed

[novel oracle]

LocalCartnitePlug

[tranquil berry]

I'm quite worried about many bugs like that creeping up

[dapper prairie]

Im gonna go practiced and adrenaline rush

[brittle sierra]

this still works thanksfully

[tranquil berry]

with the apparent massive last-minute changes...

[north plank]

Imma be honest I woulda bought this class no matter what it was

[tepid cosmos]

this was more an oversight due to how late some changes happened

[calm aurora]

Why is everyone sharing melee build?

[dapper prairie]

Cos melee is the goat

[north plank]

Melee fun

melee in my blood

[novel oracle]

most were number values
And anything else was being worked on a whole prior

[dapper prairie]

Literally i dont see any reason to play ranged

[main wagon]

Because everyone wants to use the dual pistols and they aint gonna do damage to crushers lmao

[north plank]

melee their blood

their blood in my mouth

yummy

[covert obsidian]

can Hivescum be the new Zealot chat?

[dapper prairie]

Cos crushers is the number one bane

[tranquil berry]

yeah, but apparently there have been many massive changes to the tree shortly before the embargo got lifted... that's 5 days before release....

[calm aurora]

Gun fu

[covert obsidian]

I WANT STUB PISTOLS

[main wagon]

Stim pistol looks badass though

[tender forge]

So if you run cleaver you dont need the extra chem dependency on melee crit do you?

[main wagon]

I wanna SPIIIIIIIN

Im gonna stim so hard in elevators

[tepid cosmos]

like cole said 90% of late change were number changes only

[covert obsidian]

STUB AND SHIV

[brittle sierra]

toxic dot is very potent

[reef spoke]

I wonder if this Blitz + talent combo works...

[zenith pagoda]

New blessings

[tranquil berry]

sure, but if two 10%s got changed to 50%s, and nobody had time to test the combination of those.... the game's fucked

[novel oracle]

Ive said that dual autos can work into carapace from desperado due to ranged damage, desperado rending, and the crit boost/crit chains you get often from all the crit they get

[tender forge]

True it does seem like that

[tepid cosmos]

refined lethality my beloved

[dapper prairie]

My rotten armor sufferings tell me hell no

[tender forge]

Im probably gonna run pocket fent (flashbangs)

[blissful gull]

wait, so you mean it's ended to consume your stimm at launch?

[tender forge]

Cleaver and needler

[brittle sierra]

but more importantly, if you are doing rotten armor, you wont get the toxic buff on the cleaver, you would prefer the brittle one

[tender forge]

True true

[reef spoke]

do the flashbang grenades count as "blitz explosions"?

[dapper prairie]

Yes

[novel oracle]

Ended?

[reef spoke]

:D

[dapper prairie]

Flashbangs are nutty

[reef spoke]

alright

[blissful gull]

intended*

[calm aurora]

You still got access to knife, crowbar...

[dapper prairie]

Pocket fent

[reef spoke]

drug build back online

[novel oracle]

Yes
Very much so

[dapper prairie]

Rotten armor dr is melee dr also

[brittle sierra]

whats the difference between the needle guns?

[reef spoke]

everyone is getting flash banged

[zenith pagoda]

Needle pistol looks sick

[dapper prairie]

Aoe or st

[blissful gull]

so the chemist keystone doesn't work really with the chemist ult?

[novel oracle]

Oh wdym

[tender forge]

One spreads fent on kill, and the other does damage

[novel oracle]

I might not have understood then

[tender forge]

The medi pack doesnt work with chemical dependency for now

[tranquil berry]

also... I dunno why but... to me.... the male outlaw sounds a lot like Fat Bastard from Austin Powers.... I can't unhear that....

[tender forge]

Is I think what they are sayi g

[tender forge]

Heretics get in my belley

[novel oracle]

Ive said like 6 times that its going to be changed either by launch or shortly after

[tranquil berry]

he's equally aggressively scottish....

[blissful gull]

I'm asking if right now on the test server, does ulting consume your own stimm. if it does, then I'm asking if that behavior is intended or if they intend to fix it so that ulting either doesn't consume your stimm or it also gives you chemical dependency stacks

[tranquil berry]

I can't unhear it....

[tender forge]

Yeah I know, just saying what I think they were saying

[brittle sierra]

which is the one that spreads the fent?

[tender forge]

No idea which lol

[tepid cosmos]

the intended behaviour is any stimm you have is spent in return for it becoming a team wide buff

[tender forge]

My guess is branx

Ryken has a video on the weps Ill check which is which

[quaint iris]

This channel is for me I am a future hive scum

[covert obsidian]

Yes same

[silver mural]

Im watching reginalds video and they said that the chem grenade debuffs enemy mass iirc. Which i think makes it good for melee shenanigans?

[dapper prairie]

They walk out of it really fast

U need some form of ccer

[blissful gull]

what i'm pointing out is that means chemist can't use its own keystone; are they going to make it so the ult grants a stack of chemical dependency?

[lost token]

You can also just force them to fight you while keeping them in it, probably. Scum does have access to damage immunity talents probably to help facilitate that strategy.

[tepid cosmos]

it will be being change for launch or soon after that if you use a stimm crate that spends a stimm you will get a stack of dependency like you do when you use your stimm

[dapper prairie]

U should just combo scum with arbi

Arbi has so much hold them there power that scum combo is nasty

[blissful gull]

perfect. thank you!

[lost token]

That's one way for sure. That's definitely a move for people that are consciously going for that opportunistically and/or in coordination.

[dapper prairie]

But if its the nades and no coordination im flash banging non stop

Cos those regen

[lost token]

People don't usually communicate what they want to do in my experience unless I'm just saying stuff in comms or playing with friends/randoms sticking around for multiple missions.

[dapper prairie]

Regen flashbangs that apply toxic on throw

Im feeling scummy

[light linden]

how does hive scum's personal stimm work when you pick up other stimms from missions? does the personal stimm go away? do you get it back?

[trim wind]

cant use reg stimm

[dapper prairie]

U r denied reg stimm

[light linden]

alright, thanks

[amber sundial]

The personal stims recharge though, it’s a trade off if you want custom stims permanently or if you wanna gamble for getting stims mid match

[dapper prairie]

As a drug dependent gambling on ur teammates giving u the drugs is crazy

Every 90s u need a hit

And a havoc run is 30 minutes

[light linden]

so you can choose not to bring your personal stimm? the result being you can pick up other stimms?

[covert obsidian]

any clue how much this will cost

[tepid cosmos]

map stimms can be turned into team buffs by stimm crate by they aint as consistent or as strong buffs as your own stimm

you can make a med kit out of it though

[amber sundial]

Yea just don’t put points in stim lab

[amber sundial]

Probably same as arbite

[dapper prairie]

If same as arbite consider it insta bought

[crude matrix]

10 fatsharkillion dollars

[tepid cosmos]

same price

[covert obsidian]

Good

how much is that again

[trim wind]

$arbites.00

[limber cradle]

$12 usd+tax or whatever your regional equivalent is

[covert obsidian]

Fuck it I will go for hte deluxe

I will give Fatshark money

[amber sundial]

It’s on sale for 9 dollars rn too

[limber cradle]

Neat

[main minnow]

So...if I'm reading this right

If you take Fast Acting Stimms, you can get 15s of Concentration Stim on yourself that reduce the CD of your stim supply

So you can recast stimm supply very soon after it runs out

and recoup everyone else's CDs to basically nil

yeah this is getting nerfed

[brittle sierra]

Nope it was patched 👍

[main minnow]

oh thank god

[amber sundial]

Don’t worry they’ve already dealt with that stuff

[main minnow]

what'd they do to that?

just make it not work on yourself?

[brittle sierra]

When you use crate it requires a stimm

[main minnow]

So it consumes the stimm

got it

[tepid cosmos]

it doesnt require a stimm you can still use crate for the corruption benefits and the explosion

but if you have a stimm it will also give that stimms effects to your party

[main minnow]

Does it consume the stim?

[amber sundial]

Yes it consumes stim

[main minnow]

How's it work with the custom stim?

[amber sundial]

just sets it on cd

[tepid cosmos]

ye it will put your scum stimm on cd and if its a map stimm outright use it

[main minnow]

Do you need CD up to use it?

[brittle sierra]

Wait so I can still be a Fent bomber?

[amber sundial]

No

[brittle sierra]

😈

[main minnow]

Okay

[amber sundial]

The 40 corruption heal and immunity is base to the ability

[tepid cosmos]

ye thats what i was saying to you

[amber sundial]

It just adds the stim effect if you have one in inv

and eats it up after

[main minnow]

oh so if you want to share your stimm effects, it has to be off cooldown

[tepid cosmos]

yep

[main minnow]

Got it

do you get dependency from using it this way?

[reef spoke]

no :c

[amber sundial]

not rn but it’s being changed

[tepid cosmos]

not as of right now a change is in the works for either launch or soon after launch that will do this

[main minnow]

Roger that

[brittle sierra]

Oh wait no I can't because I still don't get dependency buffs 😔

[supple torrent]

how is scummer feeling so far in terms of balance?

[tepid cosmos]

you will still have a depency stack from the time you used it with the stimm

[brittle sierra]

Wait I thought that using the supply crate won't give you a stack

[tepid cosmos]

oh wait

im dense

[wise sorrel]

how much diamantium is it advisable to save up for hivescum release

[dapper prairie]

Scummer is choice paralysis high risk high skill unga the bunga slaughter

[tepid cosmos]

im mixing myself up now

lol

you will still get the CD to do the bomb very fast though

but maybe us a different keystone with that build in the meantime

[main minnow]

yea

[brittle sierra]

Idk I'm maxed so I don't care

Whatever is 6 weapons ig

[hot nexus]

all of it

[amber sundial]

It’s better to save up plasteel to insta max mastery

[main minnow]

Honestly diamantine demand for 6 weapons isn't that high

[zealous ravine]

is 3m dockets even enough for 6 weapons

[main minnow]

plasteel is what you'll be burning

[zealous ravine]

probably right

[main minnow]

I don't even know how much dockets I have

[wise sorrel]

yea and i am doing that but in order to get an orange weapon or two (whatever I end up liking)

[brittle sierra]

Fatshark give me something to do with my resources

[amber sundial]

Dockets and plasteel are gonna be shredded after this character

[main minnow]

how does healing stimm work with it anyway?

Do you just get a burst heal as soon as you sniff it once and done like the classic?

[lost token]

Are the gameslantern weapon spreads accurate? Just asking ahead of time before reviewing

Eligible weapon pool. Whatever

[tepid cosmos]

I was actually expecting a shit show here when embargo dropped its nice to see you all mostly like what you have saw :D

[amber sundial]

hey new content is new content, the reveals are generally underwhelming compared to actual content

[brittle sierra]

the controversy tourists dont actually play the game so why would they care? 💀

[amber sundial]

Also I’m just happy to have a permanent stim I can freely spam now

[supple torrent]

It looks fun but some of the skills look really strong.

[lost token]

Not worth paying attention to crybabies in an official discord server imo.

As long as it's not some loser Gamer™ brigade raiding chats and mucking things up with their unwashed fingertips on keyboards idc enough for the take cyclists.

[zealous ravine]

it was literally the most awesome thing ever lmao

idek how they made the trailer boring

[amber sundial]

Certified sedition gameplay™ is how

[zealous ravine]

its not gameplay though

[harsh reef]

crying and coping only happen in general chat

[lost token]

Seemed like just a quick teaser of a trailer. Didn't have the same sort of flare compared to arbites but I already think hive scum are way cooler than arbites to begin with.

Arbites didn't even have gameplay for itself with the teaser. It was just pure flavor. Better paced flavor at that fwiw.

[lost token]

Oh nah. They showed up in the other class chats but lost interest within hours lol

[harsh reef]

no engangement

[amber sundial]

oh boo hoo nobody gives into the rage bait whatever shall I do now?

[lost token]

Less engagement/greater number of more people that are much closer to actually knowing what they're talking about/really know what they're talking about.

Plenty of issues within every class in their own relative rights. But the class chats have a lot of community information networking where people actually test things out, sus out inconsistencies and run numbers n all that. Not happening in a general chat most days.

[brittle sierra]

i think them actually looking at the weapons and abilities would prove them wrong

that's why we only have crickets now

[amber sundial]

Can’t wait to try out the churigon saw

also the dual knives having built in throwing knives gonna be cool to see

[tender forge]

So tor stims, Im thinking full attack speed and damage

Max viscosity

[tepid cosmos]

some of his talents are pretty strong ye, but i wouldnt say its out of line from what the other classes have and has the trade off of the wind can kill a hive scum in the right scenario

[lost token]

Also most bait fiends are extreme hypocrites. They'll bitch about things in maincord or comment sections then go right up to that payment method box on steam within minutes of a dlc drop.

[amber sundial]

they will buy it to bitch more while playing it

[lost token]

Shroomtimes it's like that

[harsh reef]

[tepid cosmos]

steam forums are like genuine psychic damage

[lost token]

When they aren't genuinely informative, yeah.

[tender forge]

A fun build could be a stim spam build

[amber sundial]

“Similar to hd2” mmm yes I shall compare this DT to the game actively trying to kill itself

[tender forge]

With like 4% power only

[harsh reef]

its funny to read it once a while

[tender forge]

And just keep dropping explosive stim packs

[limber cradle]

My favorite bit of steam forums is that sometimes when you gotta go look at em for a game there's one notorious poster everyone tells you to ignore for it

[amber sundial]

It’s gonna be silly to do this

[supple torrent]

YeahI think my main concern was vulture's dodge and how far they can push gun damage with the weapons they have access to.

[lost token]

It's also just ludicrous to even compare the two in terms of how they even function as games lmao.

[tender forge]

Combine it with the throwing knives

And chem flashes

I can see the build clearly

[brittle sierra]

what the fuck is the "plot" for HD2? 💀

[amber sundial]

honestly I have no clue where they’re attempting to go with the plot

it’s just 500 side missions for mission orders

[brittle sierra]

the whole point of HD2 is you are just being told to do X and go to Y

that's literally the lore, they wont actually tell you what is going on, because you are literally canon fodder

[jovial thorn]

the plot died once Malevelon Creek Fell like Cadia

[rare stirrup]

Hd2 "plot" is just fluff

Like, nobody plays it for the plot

[iron saddle]

Plot for hd2 is don't ask questions and get back out there collecting for super earth

[jovial thorn]

Hmmm almost Like

R O C K & S T O N E!!!!

[iron saddle]

They will one day find Karl

[tender forge]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a07837de-ef24-4502-99af-8ebafb5b96da/moon-knight

Random shit go build

Could drop the 8% power for like 12 seconds less cooldown

But uptime should be like 100% of the time if done right

[wise sorrel]

for "chemical dependency" - does it apply to your stimm cooldown time or just Blitz and Combat Ability?

[astral lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-time-mariah-carey-mariah-carey-unlocked-break-free-mariah-carey-mariah-carey-mariah-carey-defrost-gif-2439309213394458832

[tepid cosmos]

just blitz and combat ability

[wise sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

me when i cant chain my cartel special and chemical dependency

[unreal stirrup]

can't have shit in tertium

[wise sorrel]

fuckin admonition took my op ability combos

[glossy niche]

Hive scum out??

[drowsy relic]

2nd

[young herald]

It only applies to your ability. Scum blitzes don't have cooldowns (only one that regens is the flashbang and that's from kills) and the stim cooldown is only effected by the one talent in the bottom right that refunds stim cooldown on kill

[jovial thorn]

Yes it is, what are u waiting for its available right now‼️

[sturdy linden]

so I assume the class is still being changed even now, up until the 2nd?

like what we're seeing now, the numbers aren't necessarily final?

[tender forge]

Yeah

[rapid fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204922464719601665/1443751403226136706/cooltext446854868808770.gif

[flat mist]

Pretty safe to assume that nothing is set in stone

[zenith fern]

Still subject to change

Before release

[sturdy linden]

[zenith fern]

There might be few final touches and changes on talents before the class release

[silver mural]

Now the only thing we are missing is interactions to know which personality is coolest

[drowsy relic]

Give frip some times

[silver mural]

All the gameplay ive seen posted is just hive scum so it misses the class interactions. Although frip has posted one with ogryn

Ogryn is very wise

[silver mural]

Tithe rat is wonderful

[drowsy relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/475772893775790110/1444082178794197083/275ec3ad5cc9ba1476364ee5e72f15be.png?ex=692b69d5&is=692a1855&hm=bfb597517c7283704a3ac98a2f33b3845bd346ae2c6627d698a4ca9a4b5c53ff&

[silver mural]

Rapscallion is fucking peak

[true gazelle]

LUMP

[silver mural]

Since the new ogryn personality is technically a gang member im curious if they will use hive scum names to represent them being similar backgrounds

[true gazelle]

Also calling Vets Killer is great

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/nurgle-warhammer-warhammer-40k-gif-2955973579021310407

[drowsy relic]

One of my favourite little animation details is when you inspect the saw they hold a cloth over the blade

Even the scum know not to take a chance with their own poisons

[flat mist]

What is "Sprint Dodge Angle"?

[silver mural]

Its the angle in relation to gunfire that causes your sprint to dodge it

[drowsy relic]

Usually perpendicular

[flat mist]

Awesome, cheers

[zealous ravine]

these zamn poisons can literally explode a poxwalker somehow

[silver mural]

So with the talent you dont have to run perpendicular, but the angle is probably still tight

[flat mist]

Could be an interesting talent but I'm gonna put my money on it being underwhelming

Especially since you can slide under ranged fire anyway

[zealous ravine]

could be cool but im kinda lazy

[flat mist]

It's better if you're lazy

[silver mural]

Its not nescessary, but i find the dodging while at zero stam a good QOL buff. But tbf desperado exists if one really needs ranged protection

[zealous ravine]

idk im just super used to sliding like a maniac

[flat mist]

I'm gonna need the dodging while at zero stam bc I'm psyker-brained to the core

[silver mural]

Zoom zoom

Im curious if this class has the same sprint modifier when at zero stam as zealot

[flat mist]

Years of one tricking psyker and playing a shit tonne of right side has all been unknown prep for hive scumming

Glass cannon high damage close-medium ranged combat with DoTs you say? Sounds familiar

[silver mural]

That gun perk that makes you dodge gunfire at certian stamina levels and sliding i think is another option over the node if you like guns with that blessing and think its worth it

[reef spoke]

+45% speed on Ganger, knife zealots are rejoicing UwU

[silver mural]

Is that stim and desperado?

[zealous ravine]

which talents gib speed?

[reef spoke]

Stim, Desperado, Vulture

[silver mural]

Vulture ah

[zealous ravine]

ah more on the ranged side

[silver mural]

Missed that one

[silver mural]

Its for zooming while firing with the mac 10s XD

[zealous ravine]

funny

ohhhhh

waow

[silver mural]

I saw the infinite ammo node in action and it literally is just infinite ammo if enough specials spawn

[zealous ravine]

i already want that

[unreal stirrup]

bruh

[flat mist]

1 special per 20% ammo? Yeah I think there'll be enough

[unreal stirrup]

bro get half of inexorable judgment for free

or quarter

[novel oracle]

Just remember the viscosity

That adds a huge chunk of cooldown

[zealous ravine]

i dont even know what viscosity does yet

is it just more cd?

[reef spoke]

no cost too great to zoom

[novel oracle]

Each point you spend adds 2s to the cooldown

[trim wind]

gimme that thicc juice

[zealous ravine]

im probably going all in 30 points honestly

[silver mural]

For sure, even the worst ammo devouring gun can last on that XD

[novel oracle]

Stim max cooldown is 75s
Thats outside of the duration, it doesnt regen during the effect

[unreal stirrup]

if only hivescum released before psykernetic aura nerf

[silver mural]

I thought its minimum was 30 seconds and max was 75 seconds with 30 points to spend? Or am i dumb

[unreal stirrup]

infinite drug

[novel oracle]

Min is 15s, but thats 0 points so it doesnt count
1 point which enables the stim is 17s

[silver mural]

Okie doke my min was just wrong tracking

[severe dawn]

What role would this class be filling regarding synergies? I see potential using chem nades on a shout ogryn since hes pulling aggro to him but I doubt that will really work in qp sessions.

[silver mural]

I wonder if anyone will try a 1 point build just to maximize the uptime of dependancy

[flat mist]

Do we know how forge's bellow's (rampage modifier) stagger compares to vet shout

[silver mural]

Giving cooldown to the golden toughness classes so no one dies ever more often XD (jk.... unless?)

[novel oracle]

This class is either a Frontline cqc dps that is enabled by everyone else, or is generally protected by everyone while they stim and debuff with toxin

[flat mist]

You drop chem nade, I voidblast the centre knocking the enemies out

Those are my kills.

[novel oracle]

You will notice the highest highs and lowest lows when you are enabled by your team vs when you arent

[severe dawn]

Lmao I look forward to it

[silver mural]

When havoc spawns 3 billion gunners we know which class to call on. clicks f once and completely counters

[zealous ravine]

do the biggest hive scum fans live at fatshark hq? lmao

cause they cooked

[flat mist]

We can expect that from every new class tbh

[silver mural]

Secretly the devs all are super serious necromunda players

[severe dawn]

I am only looking forward to using those dual pistols and pretend im playing killing floor.

[silver mural]

The stubs are awesome looking. But the mac 10s are so much dakka.... its gonna be tough

[severe dawn]

I wont be able to responsibly use those macs, ammo? Never heard of it.

[novel oracle]

4 stack hive scum havoc 40 was fucking brutal and took so many attempts on a hard map even with old values for stuff
But just swapping 2 for a db shovel vet and a fotf evis zealot resulting in a first try with ease cuz the scum were enabled

[silver mural]

Stubs look to have the higher damage potential even into hordes due to their shots piercing but less dps into hordes as mac 10s dump ammo like crazy

[flat mist]

Is Focused Resolve (CDR node for Desperado) incredibly bad or am I cooked

[novel oracle]

It is

I wanted that bumped up

[silver mural]

5 seconds off of a 45 second cooldown is worse then similar nodes on other classes

[flat mist]

1/9th of your CD is

[novel oracle]

Oh right they did raise it from 30 in the latest patch didn't they

[silver mural]

I might take it just to max uptime and be silly but it doesnt look great

[novel oracle]

Just use your stim

[silver mural]

Its silly mode, do both

[flat mist]

Although I suppose it's still stronger than seers presence (imagine caring about team benefits) and it wouldn't be affected by additive scaling

[novel oracle]

Nah points in the tree are too valuable

Theres lots of good stuff to take

[flat mist]

40 talents when

[novel oracle]

The heat death of the universe

[flat mist]

I can wait that long

[silver mural]

Being silly is valuable

[tardy citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-butcher-hahaha-the-boys-gif-25858467

hive scum above the trapper they just laid out with the crowbar

[silver mural]

Crowbar is viscious when in beak mode

[sinful matrix]

Dredd 2 when

[tardy citrus]

i cannot wait to use the bone saw

[tardy citrus]

dude i WISH

he was a KILLER dredd

[silver mural]

Ill definitely be trying a full tox chem build

[flat mist]

I would like to see the talent trees reworked to remove the travel tax if you're taking nodes above two keystones, though

[sinful matrix]

I genuinely think Dredd is a perfect film

[silver mural]

And a full mag dump 24/7 build

[tardy citrus]

Karl Urban is a treasure tbh

He's good in everything he's in

[flat mist]

It has an underestimated impact on build diversity

[sinful matrix]

Karl Urban my beloved 💕

He made the DOOM movie too

[tardy citrus]

TRUE

https://tenor.com/view/doom-movie-first-person-karl-urban-gif-5472911835683962152

[silver mural]

Im trying to recall if any of the doom films were good

[tardy citrus]

Another goated movie

Karl Urban's doom is good

Because he's in it

[sinful matrix]

The OG one is a perfectly good slasher flick

[tardy citrus]

^

[silver mural]

I think there was a really silly one with the rock

[tardy citrus]

It's a fun movie

[sinful matrix]

And yeah, its literally just down to Urban's acting chops

[tardy citrus]

That's the Karl Urban doom LMAO

[sinful matrix]

I guess goofy The Rock isn't the worst thing in the world either

[patent bone]

HIVE SCUM CLASS LET'S GOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[sinful matrix]

Took it seriously enough, but had that over-the-top 80s action flick energy alongside it

[silver mural]

Jakka finally showed

[tardy citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/pawchain-paw-pawswap-crypto-cryptocurrency-gif-859229594265389226

All the haters and nonbelievers man this class is gonna fuck so hard Jakka

[patent bone]

WHY DID NONE OF YOU KNOBS TELL ME WE HAD THIS CHAT?!

[silver mural]

Jakka was strung out on the church steps waiting for this class

[sinful matrix]

I will support the Hive Scum with me oggy

[dapper prairie]

Instead of greed scum can i uptime the stim fast enough to enable the psyker more

[sinful matrix]

Industrial equipment users stick together

[patent bone]

HELL TO THE FUCK YES!!!

[sinful matrix]

your crowbar, my pickaxe

[tardy citrus]

Bone saw, crowbars, shivs and a dream.

[amber sundial]

and we'll support you with free drugs

[tardy citrus]

AND A WHOLE LOTTTA DRUGSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

[dapper prairie]

can hive scum inject with rmb or only inject himself

[sinful matrix]

Nosh please

[tardy citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gif-13846171428380845472

[patent bone]

I'm currently heading to Sweden with a crowbar and $9k of bearer bonds. Fatshark won't know what hit em

[sinful matrix]

Bragg cannae eat drugs

Bragg always hungry

[amber sundial]

nosh in a stim

[silver mural]

We have free drugs, and no they are not optional you will take them

[tardy citrus]

Bragg you won't know you're hungry with drugs

[patent bone]

ALL THE STIMMS THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR UNTIL THEY GET IT!!

[dapper prairie]

@novel oracle can hive scum directly inject his stim into the psyker

[tardy citrus]

Even better. Stim medikit

HE INJECTS THE WHOLE TEAM!!!!

[dapper prairie]

Besides the medkit

[tardy citrus]

UNSOLICITED DRUGS!

[sinful matrix]

I saw the enemy stim animation for the first time earlier this morning, speaking of

[patent bone]

Even better: Stim bomb!

[sinful matrix]

I was actually taken aback watching an ogryn stab himself with a stim

[tardy citrus]

DRUGS FOR EVERYONE!

[silver mural]

The answer is apparently no, ive watched coles and others vids and thats what ive been told

[patent bone]

WE GONNA SCUM ALL OVER THESE HERETICS SOON!!

[dapper prairie]

Damn

[sinful matrix]

I still have no idea what that havoc modifier does other than turn their eyes blue and make them impossible to stagger

is that like the whole thing

a funny animation and now the enemy unit is impossible to stagger

[patent bone]

Also what Cartel y'all joining? We got:
Iron Riders (Red)
The Show (Green)
Tread Lightlies (Blue)
Water Cartel (Purple)

[tardy citrus]

The Show

CAUSE IM THE MAIN EVENT BABY

[sinful matrix]

Whichever one has the most nosh

[mighty belfry]

All stimms have a peculiar quirk to em

[tardy citrus]

There's even a carnival background

I gotta go the show

and anarchistt

[patent bone]

You know Ogryn is having a new personality?

[silver mural]

I need to hear more voicelines before i pick

[sinful matrix]

I only need Bully

[tardy citrus]

the heavy

[patent bone]

The Show DOES run the Carnival

[sinful matrix]

Bully is for me and I'm for Bully

[dapper prairie]

Will zealot get the shivs

[patent bone]

It's called the Heavy. Meaner than Bully and a former ganger

[sinful matrix]

Surprisingly friendly with psyker

[silver mural]

Shivs are uniques

[patent bone]

NO! MINE!!

[dapper prairie]

Zealot backstabs too

[silver mural]

This is true

[patent bone]

"I'm the Jakka baby"

[tardy citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/terrifier-terrifier2-clown-horror-sunflower-glasses-gif-27028913

my hive scum

momentts before deployment

LMAO

[mighty belfry]

Blue does... that. Along with pox gas making them invincible.

Red overrides attack cooldowns so if you see a red eyed crusher or mauler, get the fuck away from them.

Yellow makes their attack speed absurd.

Green heals and also makes them resistant to dots

[patent bone]

Just a happy boi!

[mighty belfry]

Oh and yellow oddly enough raises damage resistance but makes their weakspots way weaker.

[patent bone]

I'm going all in on the Tread Lightlies (The name sounds lame ngl but BLUE TEAM FOR LIFEE!!!)

[dapper prairie]

Blue stim cc immunity is on red now apparently

[brittle sierra]

EHAAHAH

[tardy citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/art-arttheclown-clown-davidhoward-terrifier-gif-27058107

[dapper prairie]

But its ok just kill them with fire as per usual

[glossy niche]

Actually?

[tardy citrus]

I hope we get a bat with nails in it

[dapper prairie]

And pray the ogryn lasts long enough

[patent bone]

Yup! It's called THE HEAVY.

[sinful matrix]

I do okay in havocs if I don't forget about the pacing thing

[patent bone]

He's a former Ganger too

[silver mural]

The heavy, which is an ogryn who is gang muscle

[sinful matrix]

I tend to just w-key because of auric farming for 1700 hours

which is uh

p a i n in havocs

[patent bone]

Or still is, I honestly dunno

[dapper prairie]

Havocs are fun if ur team does their jobs well

[patent bone]

He calls everyone "Sweethearts"

[tardy citrus]

The Heavy is awesome

[sinful matrix]

Whoops, I spawned two more bosses team because I crossed a room threshold

Oh and now there's two crusher trains with it

have fuuuuuuuun

team wipes

[glossy niche]

No female ogryn 😔

[patent bone]

It's scary how smart he seems

[tardy citrus]

DEATHBALL! DEATHBALL! DEATHBALL!

[tardy citrus]

I thought that too. He's very articulate. Definitely a bone'ead.

[mighty belfry]

Eh, right now the current modifiers muddy that a little

[patent bone]

Maybe he has two??

[dapper prairie]

Havocs are fun if you have a fire psyker

[neat delta]

WHOS HYPE FOR FEM SCUM JENKEM

[sinful matrix]

Would make sense for a ganger ogryn I suppose

Gang activities aren't something you can really use an ogryn for

[neat delta]

SCUM JENKEM SCUM JENKEM SCUM JENKEM LETS GOOOOO

[tardy citrus]

Hell no he shhould be dumb as a brick

LMAO

[mighty belfry]

Lmao the havocs that go really well for me actually tend not to have flame psykers at all

[sinful matrix]

point in direction and let go of leash

doesn't work too well if you're trying to avoid Arbite attention

[tardy citrus]

A ganger Ogryn should be as smart as a slab of concrete dude LOL

[patent bone]

But we LOVE the big lads!!

[dapper prairie]

In pubs if we dont have a fire psyker we just die

No veteran also die

[sinful matrix]

There's not enough trauma staff psykers

[dapper prairie]

If either suck we all die

[sinful matrix]

Bring them back 😔

[mighty belfry]

Trauma is low key really good right now.

[dapper prairie]

Is purple aura still in the pool?

[glossy niche]

I feel like ogryn as a "species" have been soft retconned to not be as dumb as the imperium says they are

[sturdy linden]

so who are the go-to Youtubers for the hive ganger content? I already saw Reginald's vid, any other recommendations

[dapper prairie]

If there is regen i wont play trauma

[mighty belfry]

Yes (unfortunately)

[sturdy linden]

I just want something playing picture in picture while I work

[dapper prairie]

Trauma is mediocre vs regen

[patent bone]

Don't they all get bone'eads?

[tardy citrus]

No

[neat delta]

https://youtu.be/O16jW6uyXeA @sturdy linden

[tardy citrus]

Only remarkable Ogryn get the bone'ead implant

[sinful matrix]

and makes you or a teammate invulnerable against everything

[limber cradle]

I'm ngl boss I feel like that's mostly DT doing the heavy lifting

[sturdy linden]

oh cool thanks

[glossy niche]

Only brawler has one in darktide (dunno about the new voice)

[sinful matrix]

Stagger resistance aside, when its randomly applied by mods

[tardy citrus]

Heavy sounds like he's got a bone'ead implant though.

[glossy niche]

Nah there was an ogryn psyker in recent lore

[dapper prairie]

Many modifiers makes trauma so mid

[tardy citrus]

Very well spoken

[limber cradle]

Cassia, ik. She's defo a special case tho.

[patent bone]

He definitely sounds smarter. Def got an implant

[tardy citrus]

Not sure if Cassia is even canon.

[glossy niche]

I think I heard some people speculating it was due to the great rift or whatever

[sinful matrix]

She is

Only canonized psyker ogryn

[glossy niche]

One of the few known female ogryn too

[limber cradle]

The psychic awakening which coincided with the rift being torn open, yeah. That'd be why she's awakened.

[wise sorrel]

what

[glossy niche]

Wdym what

[limber cradle]

Can you specify your question more

[tardy citrus]

Cassia is probably the smartest Ogryn to have ever lived LMAO

[wise sorrel]

how is an ogryn a psyker and also a female?

[limber cradle]

Well

Female Ogryn have always existed

[glossy niche]

Ogryn women exist

[tardy citrus]

You.. Do know there are Female Ogryn right?

😂

[glossy niche]

They just don't have models

[sinful matrix]

Shhhh

[wise sorrel]

uh
no no i didnt

[sinful matrix]

Let the person ignore known biology

[zealous ravine]

rolled a 20 on dice toss

[wise sorrel]

I never gave much thought to it

[limber cradle]

And as stated the great rift being torn open during the fall of cadia was a psychic awakening which caused a lot of beings in the Imperium to develop psychic powers

[tardy citrus]

There are women Ogryn yeah

[sinful matrix]

Well you need a male and a female to make children in basically everything larger than single cell organisms

Where did you think ogryns came from?

[glossy niche]

The ground obviously

[sinful matrix]

The pits of hell like Urukhai?

[novel oracle]

No

[limber cradle]

Nah that's orks

[tardy citrus]

We don't have them in game (unfortunately bc I'd love female Ogryn) because we don't have models for them afaik

[novel oracle]

Pressing the stim button instantly injects it into yourself

[wise sorrel]

i always assumed it was some sort of genetic experiment, that they grew them in tubes or something

[novel oracle]

You cant hold it out

[tardy citrus]

Nah

[limber cradle]

You guys do not want to know what female ogryn are for, just take my word for it

[zealous ravine]

can hive scum do the gangster style op op?

[tardy citrus]

Ogryn developed bc of extremely high gravity planets

[sinful matrix]

They're humans adapted to living on very high gravity planets

[glossy niche]

Same thing male ogryn are for?

[sinful matrix]

They sacrifice intelligence for brute strength to survive in these environments

[tardy citrus]

In addition to the high grav planets being EXTREMELY dangerous

[sinful matrix]

You know, evolutionarily speaking

[tardy citrus]

Hence their fucking horrific strength

God Ogryn are so cooll

[limber cradle]

Nah, male Ogs are used as tools of the Imperium. I'm sure you can imagine from there.

[sinful matrix]

One on one, an ogryn gives a space marine a run for their money in the strength department

[limber cradle]

Gotta produce more tools.

[sinful matrix]

Unfortunately

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-hulk-slam-marvel-avengers-gif-13804368

[tardy citrus]

One on one an Ogryn can KILL a space marine

[sinful matrix]

Space marines have tactics

[tardy citrus]

lmao

[flat mist]

You can basically keep Unload up infinitely, right? Assuming it refreshes duration

[limber cradle]

And are faster and smarter

[sinful matrix]

Generally speaking, it only happens to CSMs

because CSMs are 200% pride and 500% folly

[limber cradle]

Also because GW needs jobbers

[tardy citrus]

Ogryn are scary regardless.

[sinful matrix]

Normal imperium aligned SMs are smart enough to have SOME sense of fatality applied to themselves

[tardy citrus]

A squad of Bullgryn coming to knock on your door?

No fucking thanks

[patent bone]

I love me Ogryns. The Big Lads needs some protecting too

[tardy citrus]

A squad of Bullgryn vs a Carnifex pray for the Carnifex

[sinful matrix]

mfw commissar needs to roll a command check to get ogryns into land raiders

[tardy citrus]

Them boys gonna eat that Carnifex

[sinful matrix]

Claustrophobic lads

[limber cradle]

You should see Charonites

[patent bone]

I love the video where the Commissar calms an Ogryn down with a prayer

[flat mist]

Does Hyper-Critical count enemy health before or after the crit damage

[tardy citrus]

Even more terrifying

[flat mist]

So many questions

[limber cradle]

Those were scary Ogryn

[tardy citrus]

Charonites 100% could fuck a Space Marine

[flat mist]

So much time will be spent in the psykhanium instead of gaming

[limber cradle]

Not sure anyone in here knows rn tbh

[patent bone]

In a fight right?

[sinful matrix]

I'm pretty sure I'm giving it to the Carnifex against infinite ogryns

[flat mist]

(I love it)

[sinful matrix]

Despite their size, they're faster than space marines

[limber cradle]

I don't think anyone in here rn are playtesters

[sinful matrix]

with reaction times similar or faster

[tardy citrus]

A squad of Bullgryn vs a single Carnifex

idk man

[patent bone]

Shit I wish I was

[sinful matrix]

And Ogryns don't exactly have armor

[tardy citrus]

bullgryn do

[zealous ravine]

1 rock vs 1 carnifex

[tardy citrus]

lmao

[limber cradle]

Charonites got the Sons of Horus not to invade a vessel in 30k iirc

[sinful matrix]

Considering what a Carnifex can do to a terminator

I don't think a Bullgryn equipment load is doing much

[tardy citrus]

1 terminator vs a SQUAD of Bullgryn

[flat mist]

There's always the chance one will see it, and if I message here I can look it up next week instead of making a formal list of things to be tested

[tardy citrus]

SQUAD of Bullgryn vs 1 Carnifex

[patent bone]

He said an Ogryn would fuck a Space Marine. I wanted to clarify in a fight or in the sexy thing

[tardy citrus]

Rock paper scissors

[sinful matrix]

If the termi has ammo, definitely to the termi

Plasma gun go bwooooooom

[limber cradle]

That's fair, ig I just didn't want you getting your hopes up rn

[sinful matrix]

or storm bolter

[limber cradle]

Missed that bit ngl

My b

[sinful matrix]

or whatever the minigun is called

[patent bone]

All g

[limber cradle]

Does the terminator have a name?

He wins

[bronze glade]

my reaction seeing this class's gameplay

[sinful matrix]

lmfao

Tongs with the real talk

[limber cradle]

Does the Ogryn have a named leader?

Like 3 of them die

But then they win

[flat mist]

You warm my cold heart

[tardy citrus]

Bone'ead is always squad lead

[sinful matrix]

Ogryn being led by Commissar Cain

goes to the ogryns

[limber cradle]

All the Ogryn die and Cain somehow 1v1s a termie lord

[fluid yarrow]

What’s in the slopshop for the scum

[tardy citrus]

Because Cain's a fucking beast

He's got major imposter syndrome dude is actually a fucknasty duelist

lmao

[flat mist]

Omg. Swift Endurance + Jittery. You know I be memeing with +11 stam from equipment on day 1.

[sinful matrix]

He's so real for that honestly

speaking of stam

[flat mist]

Hopefully more stam talents to come (reading through them very slowly)

[sinful matrix]

what the fuck is up with the new UI

[tardy citrus]

Cain is so lethal because he's not STUPID

[sinful matrix]

I hate the new stamina bar

at least I can see my dodges now I guess

[limber cradle]

You can change it back somewhere in settings

[bronze glade]

yeah

i think ther's an option to remove as well iirc

[flat mist]

You can also just remove it

[flat mist]

Based

[limber cradle]

Get the VT experience

[sinful matrix]

Nah I like being able to see the stam bar

Important for blocking

which uh

actually matters on the branx pickaxe

Think it's the only weapon in the game where its a normal part of the gameplay loop

[flat mist]

Not if you one trick psyker

[limber cradle]

Blocking in DT is fake

You just dodge and swing

[sinful matrix]

You say that

but the branx is 1 attack every 2 seconds

so its actually really important to know when to block

[limber cradle]

Branx is my preferred Og melee fwiw

I still don't block with the thing

[sinful matrix]

Okay to be fair I'm not blocking like its VT2

but I'm not gonna go for a push attack with 4% stam

just asking for a bad time

[limber cradle]

I'm VT2 brained rn

Where blocking and pushing actually exist and are like, meta

[flat mist]

Do stacks of Vulture's Mark fall off one at a time or all at once?

[tardy citrus]

Branx is goated

It's my Ogryn weapon tooo

[sinful matrix]

Fatshark killed the bb mk3

We got the branx out of it

A fair trade