psyker-class

[rigid sky]

I like getting even more toughness gains tbh

Swiss cheese mitigation model

[long saddle]

kinetic deflection was more of an old psyker tree pick for me

[rich spindle]

I just path through quietude instead

[rigid sky]

Psyker takes big damage if a melee swing leaks through after our toughness already took a ding

[long saddle]

I usually can't spare it now unless I'm doing DD builds

[rigid sky]

So I like multiple sources of toughness gain as strong as possible to just paper over all of those potential damage moments

[long saddle]

but now you have revive speed buffing all helping actions so it's not as dire

[rigid sky]

It just takes two bruisers swinging in the same millisecond to fuck up a psyker

[crisp ether]

Can I be a little controversial here?

[rich spindle]

Never

https://tenor.com/view/let's-be-serval-about-this-serval-cats-serval-peace-serval-caption-gif-14329903644948138512

[crisp ether]

Well I'm doing it anyway.

I think the 20% damage on ogryn and monsters is kind of overrated

[long saddle]

it prob is

[rich spindle]

Yeah if ur playing inferno

[long saddle]

it's just so easy to grab tho

[crisp ether]

It is but honestly in practice

I really don't feel it doing much

[distant quartz]

@jovial juniper what do you think

[crisp ether]

Even on a build that is meant for big burst damage like SG FGS meleeker

[distant quartz]

i cant tell the difference between the greatsword marks

[swift eagle]

Is Penetration of the Soul worth anything or just drop ogr/monst then to pick up kinetic deflect?

[crisp ether]

It's gonna die either way lol

[long saddle]

the difference is in the movesets

[rigid sky]

6 much better for ST, tiny bit worse for multi

[jovial juniper]

Yeah that's pretty good

[long saddle]

mk6 is the better

[rich spindle]

AH HELL NAHHHHH

LOCK HER UP

[crisp ether]

THEY ARE UPSET CUZ I TOLD THE TRUTH

[dire wharf]

6 is better for heavy attacks, 8 is better for light/horde clear

[rigid sky]

8 has to do a push attack combo to access the poke of doom, so it's not super good dps

6 has the poke in a 2 part combo, with an overhead

[crisp ether]

That Bonbon is getting sent to the Warp either way

[rigid sky]

Which is really strong

[long saddle]

6 horde clear just needs you to cancel a combo

which is trivial

compared to worse single target

[rigid sky]

But 6 has to weave in a heavy or some QQ tech for horses

🐴 ffs

Hordes

[crisp ether]

Psyker already does so much damage at the best of times that 20% against a decently limited set of targets doesn't mean much to me ime

[rich spindle]

How could you possibly have a different opinion than me about one talent point in the game Warhammer 40k darktide

[jovial juniper]

dont worry about horde clear on FGS

[rich spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1069409593689645106/1355086726879645726/caption.gif

[jovial juniper]

just

[dire wharf]

Mk6 can also poke by using warp shock then heavy attack

[crisp ether]

I am the ultimate contrarian

[rigid sky]

Good for burst but less good for sustained dps

Since the push attack takes time

And doesn't hurt

[jovial juniper]

[rigid sky]

The mark 6 does a very strong overhead instead

[thorn cedar]

It is not.

[rigid sky]

Weaker than poke but much stronger than nothing.

[long saddle]

pots is more of a trauma thing

[crisp ether]

I still wouldn't use it on trauma ngl

[long saddle]

no I don't either

but it is what some ppl use it for

or at least I don't think I do

[rich spindle]

Wait is the trauma still gonna hit carapce on the new rot crushers

[long saddle]

I don't remember between my 3 trauma builds

[rich spindle]

Cus they have cara core

[crisp ether]

Thats...

[long saddle]

uh

[crisp ether]

Actually a fair point

Hmm.

[jovial juniper]

Explosions check torso iirc

[swift eagle]

is what i have after suggestions. does the ogryn/monster damage not apply to soul blaze out of curiosity?

[rigid sky]

It's a nebulous "body" check

[jovial juniper]

I don't have solo play so I can't check it atm

[long saddle]

it does

[distant quartz]

What’s the two small bars next to the crosshair when using greatsword for?

[rigid sky]

Since scab ragers get to count as Flak right

[crisp ether]

Honestly it might be worth going into psy later to see how that plays out

[crisp ether]

Yeah.

[rigid sky]

Special charge

For super anime blade beam

Each full bar means a much stronger bananablade

[distant quartz]

So stock activation = weak banana
2 bar + activation = ultra banana?

[jovial juniper]

1 bar should be enough to kill chaff

And no bar still good stagger

[rigid sky]

And still does a solid slash

[jovial juniper]

So you can stagger 20 ragers if you feel like it

[swift eagle]

am not sure what the hell i was doing here with the perks tbh. lmao. think its been a long time since i dusted it off.

[rigid sky]

The slash part is already empowered too

So use it just to punish ragerwave if you like

Prefer unyielding and probably Carapace on it

If not Carapace, then elites or maniacs

Probably not taking deflector in today's game

I like unstable power and idk what else

Maybe deflector now lol

Idek

Executor maybe?

[long saddle]

superiority is also good

[jovial juniper]

eh its ok but slaughterer is right there

[rigid sky]

But definitely unstable power

Free strength

On an Obscurus though?

[long saddle]

yeah unstable should prob just always take the uncanny slot now

[rigid sky]

I guess it triggers from lingering inferno on trash

So you can get it active for a while for free

[distant quartz]

Would you recommend changing unstable power to something else?

[rigid sky]

But I find myself mostly meleeing decidedly single targets before going back to staff or brain rupture

[jovial juniper]

I personally like Unstable Power

[rigid sky]

Unstable power is sick if you can keep peril up

It's 20% iirc? Or 25?

[jovial juniper]

Do note that the tooltip for it is pretty much misleading

[distant quartz]

It says 5%

[rigid sky]

Yep, this is why you have to ask her and not go by tooltips

[long saddle]

the text is not accurate

[rigid sky]

*here

[long saddle]

it's 5% per stack

[rigid sky]

Tooltips are often fucked

[long saddle]

up to 4 times it stacks

[jovial juniper]

It's kinda weird because old UP description was correct

[swift eagle]

I take it precog is still a must take then for fs

[jovial juniper]

Then Fatshark Fatsharked

[long saddle]

DT 🤝 bad tooltips

[crisp ether]

Eh

Wouldn't say a must take.

[long saddle]

I don't think I ever run precog

[crisp ether]

If anything, you're running EE so

Riposte would be ideal not just for damage purposes but survivability as well

[distant quartz]

Is melee tank a build for psyker?

[crisp ether]

Gotta remember the value of what the crit is actually doing for you other than just damage

[rigid sky]

Riposte better of the two usually

It lasts a lot longer and it's much better for consistency

You want to one-shot that charging mutant reliably enough

Riposte helps that, Precog doesn't

Precog is great if you have Riposte already and there isn't a better option

Like scum shivs

Should always be Riposte Precog even before uncanny got gutted

[swift eagle]

That makes sense. One thing I do want to ask now that deflector isn't used as much anymore. Is there any point in taking Kinetic Deflection when it comes to psyker? Maybe as a FGS melee psyker but not sure on staff

[rigid sky]

But force swords have unstable power so

[crisp ether]

100% yes

Kinetic Deflection when you can get it is an amazing talent.

[swift eagle]

I was kinda thinking it was. Just thought I saw somebody say it wasn't as good and I was wondering more the why if anything

[crisp ether]

It's not always necessary but you will notice having it.

[crisp ether]

...did this person's name start with a T

[long saddle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a118e98b-66a9-4d33-96d5-dc33887b72b3/soyker p much as close you're gonna get

[crisp ether]

Because I think I know who you're talking about

[rigid sky]

It might have been me

I was talking about the blessing though

Tbh it's hard to budget for the talent these days though, even on my gunker

I try to rely more on EE now

Shoot before they can shoot me

[distant quartz]

What does this build do

[long saddle]

kill stuff

eat hits

[rigid sky]

I do miss how deflector feels though

Neo class fantasy is very real

[swift eagle]

woah the obscurus moveset is an odd one. dont think i ever used it over deimos

[long saddle]

I just heavy with force swords really

[rigid sky]

Good dps and starts on a H1 makes me prefer it, but Deimos is more popular

HLL is all you gotta know

Or just H block cancel

Spam that overhead bop

Being able to follow up the heavy with lights is great if you don't one-shot that mutant

[swift eagle]

HLL feels like it would've been a ds moveset lol

[rigid sky]

Faster followup

Just bear in mind, headshots on the light uppercut are really hard to get lol

Gotta aim uo

Up

[swift eagle]

With staff is it mostly just charge or light attack spam?

[rich spindle]

They made it easier last patch apparently

Haven’t paid attention to if it actually is or not

[swift eagle]

Don't think it'll be as fun as melee psyker is rn, and honestly I prefer melee but nice to have another build for the time being at least

[rich spindle]

The goal when playing inferno staff is to get a lot of soulblaze stacks on a lot of things fast. You reach a tipping point (usually ~10 stacks on everything) where perilous combustion snowballs and everything dies. So the technique is typically to spam minimum charge right mouse attacks. You only left mouse as a last ditch defensive measure or if you want to actively stagger something

[swift eagle]

I've actually gotten pretty good now playing melee psyker. Finally learned how to slide dodge

[olive oar]

I'm getting somewhere with the Illisi, it is so fast and the dash is so long that when going back to the greatsword I feel like a sloth.
Charged Strike and blazing spirit making things work in unnexpected ways.

[olive oar]

This took me so long, I always thought this tech to be something fancy, until I hit Auric and saw that if I wanted to play in this difficulty I HAD to master it, my hands went numb because I wasn't used to the pattern of the keypress. Now it's second nature.

[rich spindle]

The master

[olive oar]

Look! I can slide dodge in 4 directions!

[swift eagle]

It took me a lot of practice to get there too so I feel ya. Def worth learning tho

[buoyant maple]

It’s easier but still not easy

[dire wharf]

What is slide dodge

Sliding to dodge gunfire?

[thorn cedar]

You can execute a slide during a dodge.

Just hit crouch while the dodge itself is active and your guy will do it. Costs an actual dodge to do it though.

[olive oar]

Before the addition of the dodge bar on screen I didn't know that, I was always puzzled on why I suddenly could not dodge. Ages ago...

[thorn cedar]

Yeah I mostly avoid dodge sliding unless I literally do need to dodge something while I also need to be sliding.

[swift eagle]

after I dropped empathetic I needed to learn it to close the gap with gunners without taking a ton of damage

on melee psyker

[wind wind]

I had a blast (no pun intended) with my voidblast staff build today. Felt like playing on easy mode

[kind jay]

we had a random with voidblast last night who forgot they had it until after we had to deal with a wave of armor and ragers and a beast

it was one of those "you had [thing] the entire time???"

[olive oar]

And the experiments continues, Illisi with Charged Strike and Blazing Spirit allows for a more consistent experience, unfortunatelly this setup is weak against Crushers, but this is a sacrifice I'm willing to make, just some yolo gameplay to showcase the capabilities of the setup.
https://youtu.be/vaCpBVYu8YE

[kind jay]

is this the same shotgun build from before?

[olive oar]

Very similar, guess I changed just one talent or two talents.

And, of course, this is with Illisi instead of the Greatsword. So it's weaker to crushers, although in this example none spawned, when in a team the damage to them is ok, but they are trouble if you're alone.

[kind jay]

whats the build with this one? ive been tryna use illisi for fun

[olive oar]

In taking care of my grandma, so when I go back to the game I'll check it out.

[kind jay]

[olive oar]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1e65941-5b5a-43cf-b299-98c9f018f452/warp-lightning-battlemage-mark-ii
This is what I used, one thing is that with the speed I tend to put myself into gunfire more recklessly, so Empathic Evasion would be pretty good, but the testing still goes on.

[kind jay]

ty ill try it out

[kind jay]

this is just auric. i struggled at the start but around 1/3rd of the way it kinda clicked and i went on a rampage

like shooting the shooty in little hallways

[olive oar]

The single shot is incredible as a sniping weapon as well, not as strong as the Agripinaa, but on bosses and Reapers it's extremely strong. Also if you get a critical wide shot on specials, most of them will die of the bleed.
It's 6 stacks of bleed, it's like a unidirectional frag granade, that you happen to have 100 of them on your pocket.

[olive oar]

I see you don't have blitz damage on, on the mod menu on the Ovenproof plugin there's an option to turn on the damage count from blitzes. Although it will appear low, since most enemies will be whacked by a heavy attack before being shocked and dead heretics don't take dot damage, but the kill tally will show you the difference that charged strike makes.

[kind jay]

oh right ill turn that on

[rich spindle]

This has potential to dominate auric

[olive oar]

If that so happens I would be happy, because people droped the Illisi even in Auric because it's kind meh.

[rich spindle]

I think a major breakthrough is immanent

[fathom adder]

FGS ate its lunch

[olive oar]

But I'm playing with it more for the sake of variety, since @buoyant maple showed me some math that demonstrated the Illisi potential, what I think that would be nice to have more people aware of is the power of Charged Strike, as it enables a new host of weapons to be used, now for what I think that has potential to shift things even in Havoc is this build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a16d8e16-c437-480a-a82b-081dcce4cb53/hellblaze-slinger
If you try it yourself as well you would be surprised at it's efficiency.

[olive oar]

None have spoken wiser words.

[rich spindle]

Illisi has never been used in havoc before. This is dangerous territory

[dire wharf]

I solo h40 with Illussi every night

[rich spindle]

Holy

[olive oar]

Funny the way you talk, because recently you've been through worse as you showcased a despised weapon, on your incredible clutch in a Rotten Armor modifier with a Heavy Sword, Reddit talked shit ad nauseum about your performance while they pulled numbers from their asses as if what you demonstrated wasn't truly incredible. You showed a potential to a weapon that nobody bats an eye. And I'm trying to do the same with the Zarona Combat Shotgun and the Voidstrike, although the Voidstrike in the build I think to be incredibly superior on Havoc.

[distant quartz]

are there new ways to get 17% toughness curios or are we still RnGing with Melk

[rich spindle]

I’ve read and agree wholeheartedly with all of that

[verbal thistle]

rng

[distant quartz]

damn...4 years and we still rely on space bardin

[wind spruce]

Swapped out wildfire for souldrinker on your crit reliant build yet?

[wind spruce]

What mod for those damage numbers?

[olive oar]

On the FGS no, not having wildfire would greatly reduce the damage potential of the build, enemies with 5 stacks of soulblaze take almost twice the damage than if they had only 4 stacks, in big skirmishes it can make the combat 30% faster by having wildfire in that setup.

[olive oar]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/621

Damage tally and numbers seems to be estimates, tried to do some math with the numbers provided by the mods but it's a nightmare to verify anything. Damage tally from Scoreboard mod and the Ovenproof plugin can vary by more than 10% in unknow situations. So we can only estimate some numbers.

[deft stump]

And armoury exchange extension.

[summer prairie]

The base scoreboard numbers are not accurate, ovenproof are

[shut kite]

I have a mod on the nexus that automatically checks and buys curios by power level and type

[steady turtle]

So i would think that the fire staff would do less damage than the lightning staff against enemies with heavy metal armor is that correct?

[hollow jolt]

Kind of?, the fire staff actually has near perfect armor pen except vs carapace on its flames but it will do less damage though

[marble crater]

Depends on what you mean by metal armor

[hollow jolt]

It's like unironically 95-100% armor pen for pretty much anything not a crusher

[steady turtle]

interesting

[hollow jolt]

Ah I should mention that the Scab Rager doesn't count as carapace for dots

So you're good on using flame staff for them

[hollow jolt]

Will probably die to a rager and blame it on not having a bubble :p

[dire wharf]

On this weeks episode of 3 Big Swords and a Knife..

[sour frost]

im invested, where can i binge watch the whole show

[wraith sphinx]

Shanktide

[wind spruce]

Enter psykhanium. Shoot staff. Read numbers.

[jovial juniper]

Then you summon 8 of them

And see if EK staff can compete with Inferno when it comes to number

You know

Usual drill

[dire wharf]

Ok that was rough. We were doing rolling thunder, fighting the captain at the end when he knocks me back THROUGH the closed doors into the final room, but even though I'm in there the cogitators can't be hit because captain wasn't dead

Squad wiped while i was stuck in there

[white sky]

Levelling another psyker, yk what that means

Time to throw rocks for approximately 26 levels

[topaz halo]

Gadies n lentelmen havin a rough go stayin vertical with the psyker these days try to get all the penances done I swear I’ve never been so squishy any advice?

Had no problem with vet zealot or ogryn

I’m doing the 5 ds of dodge ball as well

[drifting oar]

#psyker-class message

Use that build

Heavy into hordes. Light attack everything else, with scriers up. Shotgun trappers into the face with righteous prejudice.

[topaz halo]

I’ll give it the old college try

Thanks

[dire wharf]

#1 tip is don't get hit, ever

[topaz halo]

Yeah see that’s my problem lol

Did somthing change?

[dire wharf]

Mine too

Psykers are just very squishy

Glass cannons

Don't jostle them, they might explode

[topaz halo]

I never ever felt this squishy tho do I really gotta hug my teammates nuts

[dire wharf]

That does help but it isnt required

[topaz halo]

I’m super out of practise forsure

[dire wharf]

Darktide, for me, is a very demanding game at high difficulties, with all the visual and audio queues you're on the lookout for, it does get easier though the more you play

[topaz halo]

Yeah just got giver for a bit I think. I just see dudes rockin a wizard and they are just gtg no damage other than like fire n the odd barrel. Your tellin me they r just being goats?

[wraith sphinx]

so I decided to play a little zealot for a change and lol lmao

[cunning hinge]

LMAO

[thorn cedar]

Good job.

[shrewd barn]

WHAT BRAIN RUPTURE DOES?

[fresh panther]

how dare you try to engage in melee

with the class that is designed to engage in melee

[wispy pumice]

I had someone cry that I was playing darktide like vt2, I guess kiting and backing away from enemies is forbidden tech.

[olive oar]

I'm not sure, because on solo mode Ovenproof can't account for weakspot one hit kills, it bugs off and counts as 0 damage. Damage numbers on some ocasions don't make sense as well. But they provide a fine estimate.

[olive oar]

Heavy 1 into everything, charged strike is to help with the hordes as it deals full damage to all it's cleave touches.

[olive oar]

I'm into gaming since I was 4 years old, so reading gaming cues, navigation, and visual cues are a second nature to me. When I'm playing Darktide I'm basically in a Flow State: https://scienceinsights.org/what-is-flow-state-and-what-happens-in-your-brain/
Sometimes I even evade threats that my conscious mind did not notice it was there, it's spooky when that happens.

[olive oar]

Brain Rupture is the blitz that you charge and a lightning bolt goes down and blows the enemy heads. This node, Kinetic Flayer, makes that every 12 seconds, by hiting a Special or Elite enemy, they will also be hit by a Brain Rupture bolt. Quite useful overal, specially to Inferno builds as the staff does not have a lot of range.

[thorn cedar]

Flow state is like an inside joke for me and a buddy at this point.

cause that's what DarkTide does best for us

[white sky]

Reading that feels like the most anti flow state thing I can do I'm ngl

[thorn cedar]

So when me or him are straight clutching the shit out of a match we just go "Flow state! Flow state!"

Or "I'm flowing so hard rn"

Or any other numerous twists on the phrase.

[white sky]

They renamed trauma to voidblast right?

[thorn cedar]

Anyway yeah the way I try to describe DarkTide to people isn't "L4D but Warhammer" or "Coop shooter" or any of that. I call it Guitar Hero for Murder.

[olive oar]

The important thing to get into flow is this:
The Skill-Challenge Sweet Spot
Flow has a well-documented entry requirement: the challenge of whatever you’re doing needs to roughly match your skill level. Researchers call this the “channel model.” When challenge exceeds skill, you get anxiety. When skill exceeds challenge, you get boredom. When they’re approximately equal, you enter the flow channel.
This balance is measured simply as the gap between how challenging you perceive a task to be and how skilled you feel at it. The closer those two ratings are to each other, the more likely flow becomes. This is why beginners rarely experience flow in complex activities, and why experts get bored with easy tasks. The sweet spot keeps moving as you improve, which is part of what makes flow so motivating: it naturally pushes you toward growth.

[olive oar]

Guitar Hero for Murder, wow, I'm speechless. Best description ever, fingers fly on this one faster than if I were playing Through the Fire and Flames.

[dire wharf]

Thats when I started gaming, had the atari 2600.

I can get into a flow state sometimes and its great, feels like I'm playing with cheats. Last night got cornered by a plague ogryn and a couple of scab maulers, and despitr being boxed in they couldnt touch me and I shredded them

Other times I'll trip over my feet

[frail oar]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-9403556598434283568

Bruh im just trying to maim heretics

[olive oar]

Funny thing about this that there's a banter with the Psyker that states that she likes the battle flow, it feels relaxing.

[olive oar]

Same thing, on a Atari.

[dire wharf]

What other consoles have you had

[wet monolith]

Bro I'm total shit as psyker :"(

I see people deal insane dmg as him but no matter what build I try i feel so weak af

I see people with inferno staff literally melting groups of elites and group of specialist in a short time shit like holy moly

Or that crystal thing don't remember it's name

I really need help understanding the psyker and how do I use his ability and weapons in the right combo

[marble crater]

For builds see pins here, for learning how to play maybe watch some gameplay on YouTube

[rigid sky]

Venting Shriek adds a lot of burst to it

If you're not running that you won't be as spectacular

[wet monolith]

I will try to see an inferno staff build

and I will need to watch guide about the psyker and how do I play as him correctly

cuz I just suck at using him

[rigid sky]

Are you using both fire modes effectively?

LMB to stagger specific targets and mobility and RMB for killing things better

Generally short charges spammed (this will maintain blaze away)

Take a good single target melee and a good ranged elite killer (probably brain rupture)

[thorn cedar]

Your fire will also do more damage if you cackle maniacally while you do it, the louder the better.

[olive oar]

In from Brazil, and in the 80's/90's we had an emerging tech industry that created some national counterparts that were even betten than the originals, so I had an Atari, then a NES (Phantom System) then a Master System, Then a Genesis, then a SNES. That's when my family bought me a PC and I've been gaming mainly on PC ever since but also had a PS3. But on some friends house and LAN houses I played a lot of Playstation 1, 2, Sega Saturn, Nintendo 64 Dreamcast. I even played on some Neogeo and other odities.

[rigid sky]

Don't forget to scream something about your incomparable mind

Just because Morrow is playing a drinking game and I want to make him lose.

[thorn cedar]

I am body locked once more.

Goddamn executive dysfunction.

WHAT DO.

[olive oar]

This seems terrifying, hope it's manageable.

[thorn cedar]

It is, it's just standard ADHD shit. And/or depression.

I just dunno what to do sometimes so I just sit here staring at a screen starting nothing at all.

[rigid sky]

Any youtube series you've been neglecting?

Have a bath maybe?

[dire wharf]

That's a solid lineup

[thorn cedar]

I am watching videos tbf but it does not really engage my brain.

Already worked out today, and showered, and ate, so the basics are done, I'm just not sure how to actually find fulfilment today lol

So I'm gonna go for another walk around the block I suppose.

[rigid sky]

Shower is for the body but bath is for the soul

[dire wharf]

If you don't have any obligations for today then you're off to a good start IMO

[thorn cedar]

I am unemployed.

[dire wharf]

@thorn cedar that can be rough, sorry

[radiant frigate]

are you keeping your mind in motion

i find that it gets really loud when at rest

[spice aurora]

i just learned that playing h40 with a trackpad on a laptop on airplane wifi is not viable

[dire wharf]

Yeah but now you're in the h40 mile high club

[kind jay]

bruh its time for you to do the world first airplane trackpad h40 solo

[thorn cedar]

Tell the pilot to keep circling the airport, you got some gaming to do. They'll understand.

[terse edge]

Can anyone help me with malleus monstronum?

[rich spindle]

Make sure to call out bombers really loudly on voice comms

[sullen mango]

What blessings to put on duelling sword after the Uncanny strike nerf?

[crisp ether]

Precog

Or you can just keep using Uncanny since DS is pure ass for anything that isn't single target at this point.

[spice aurora]

jjst like in harold and kumar

[cinder mesa]

What stats to do you usually dump for the staffs?

[spice aurora]

depends which and how you use it, for ek staff for example I barely charge it so I dump charge speed

[jovial juniper]

Warp Resistance

Then

Blast Radius on Voidstrike

And if you're M1 only on Ek, then charge rate

[cinder mesa]

Oh, thank you.

[zinc terrace]

Anyone trying to do penance private game achievement?

[verbal thistle]

it's time to cook

[olive oar]

Through the few times I've tried Crystalline Will, in the time it takes from going from 100% peril to actually blowing up, enemies were able to damage me, so I felt it to be very reckless above it's already reckless effect.

[dire wharf]

Whats cooking?

[verbal thistle]

cooking up a goofy exploit build

we didnt win that match but here is an older scoreboard of the build

its really fun

[jovial juniper]

Who tf is Richthofen psyker again?

[crisp ether]

Loner male

[neon laurel]

I gotta level up my mastery in all these different psyker weapons, but I think I'll just buy and sacrifice a bunch of weapons to cheese through it because I cannot quit inferno staff and great sword - they're too fun!

Oh hey, my name is colored now. I CAN ATTACH PICTURES!

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/red-role-shunsui-kyōraku-roleist-period-role-gif-3047352675250242082

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-my-role-look-red-role-red-role-gif-10788129725971559475

[neon laurel]

Behold... my psyker 😎

[dire wharf]

That's how I've leveled up most of the weapons

[dire wharf]

Is this the crystalline will build you've mentioned before

[verbal thistle]

yeah

[white sky]

What's actually a statistically low warp res roll

Like sub 20 percent?

Sub 10?

Ik you want everything else as high as possible with warp res as low as it goes, but how long can it realistically go?

[lone ravine]

saw a psyker get grabbed by a mutie the second they start their PotW and die immediately with no time to vent

[kind jay]

yeah all disables do that. which is why the game absolutely for sure spawns them right behind you when you are gonna pop

[round iris]

Could I see some psyker builds ppl enjoy for Auric pls im a noob psyker almost there and i have a few builds I copied and it’s decent in damnation but I’m kinda tyred if the builds and want to switch it up

[radiant frigate]

[round iris]

Well yeah but not what I asked lol

[formal dew]

I have a soul flame one that works for pretty much everything

I'm fairly sure it's close to meta though

[round iris]

👀

[round iris]

Wonder how close it is to mine

[hardy delta]

i run this with 2h sword and staff that does explosions, i find it fun

[round iris]

Ooohhh this is interesting, I’ll give it a try thx

[formal dew]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1e866f5-c531-4a9f-9076-eda3baa2bd44/soulflame-3

This is what I use

Some perks like solidity are purely for my ease of use

[round iris]

👀

[formal dew]

This is my Psyker outfit too

As much as I dislike krieg

the coat is too nice to not get

[round iris]

Fr though

First so we’ll on my pyro psyker

[dense drift]

Trying out the electrostaff. It seems a bit lackluster, is there something I'm missing?

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

Actually yes

[stable bone]

Imo it's best use case is to run a warp nexus + surge build with either shriek or scrier's and spam m1, or as a way to get on demand stagger with m2. I hate myself and like using m2 as the primary source of damage, and while it can work, it's a meme

[jovial juniper]

You're missing out on luck

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-xqc-gambling-addict-777-gif-25803752

Actually

You're missing out on Skitarii release

They'll have an arc rifle

Which means Fatshark will look at electric staff too

cough desperado vs PBB cough

[stable bone]

[kind jay]

electro is trash pls buff it

[buoyant maple]

lol u wish

[jovial juniper]

My wish? No
I just know

[stable bone]

Turn m2 into another smite please and thanks

[median abyss]

Any good YouTube channels with just high diff full gameplay? Just getting back into the game and keen to see how some play styles are

[jovial juniper]

I don't dtubers

Sorry

[rich spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/@Khandones

[median abyss]

I was hoping for more psyker bias but this pretty much fits what im lookn for

[wispy pumice]

chocoB is good

[plucky flax]

Tru

[wraith sphinx]

Dtubers lmao 💀

[hot sphinx]

I haven't played in forever

Are the bees still good

[kind jay]

everything is good. especially mind in motion

[restive slate]

Noticed they buffed Wall Shield, is it comparable to Bubble?

I admit I like the toughness boost from bubble

[radiant frigate]

i heard wall is full of holes

but it is wider and taller now

[long saddle]

they're both kinda ok atm

since bubble got longer cooldown and walls are still a bit wonky ye

[uneven nexus]

Can someone please direct me as to the proper way to use Brain Burst? Cause it has a ridiculously long charge time, and by the time it is done charging, one of my allies has likely already killed the elite I'm trying to target. Is there some type of strategy I'm not understanding/using with it?

[rigid sky]

If somebody else kills it first then you didn't need to BB that target

Flayer is really good but is like an extra thing

[uneven nexus]

I'm trying to get the challenges for using it on elites, but frankly between the long charge time and my inability to get a target before it dies, it feels more like a hindrance than anything else

[rigid sky]

If you want to be using BB as a proper weapon rather than a problem solver, then you want to consider taking Kinetic Resonance and Enhanced Psionics

[deft stump]

Using it with KF. Also, you use it mostly to autoaim stupidly positioned enemies that might be hard for others to shoot or clearly rounding the corner since you can still kill when they run into doors.

[rigid sky]

Can I recommend a bubble/Voidblast setup with EP then? You can bunker up and kill ranged elites and specials very efficiently with it, while Voidblast doesn't need much help tbh

You can also pre charge for things like awkward dog or sniper moments

[deft stump]

For penances, just play on a dead server on lower diffs. You can totally just BB things then safely.

[sterile vale]

You can speed it up using Kinetic Resonance, Enhanced Psionics and ingame speed stimms

If you go with the double wall-shield, you can stack Kinetic Resonance on itself and get even faster

[rigid sky]

I think I got my achievement randomly on Hab Dreyko in the long room just before the final airlock

You often have really good line of sight on a lot of gunners etc

[sterile vale]

But in general, combat penances are much easier to complete in Mortis Trials

There's a specific indulgence for brain burst which makes it also burst 10 targets near the initial target

[deft stump]

Heresy HiSTG is enough tbh. You can even get lucky and get it on the first spawns if it's that pick and mix one.

[rigid sky]

I mean I got it through organic play there lol

Wasn't even chasing it

[deft stump]

I was chasing something else.

[rigid sky]

Just happened to be like 8 targets for me to pop and nobody else was doing it

[deft stump]

It just happened to proc it as well.

It should be easier with the tripled spawns.

[hoary mauve]

I got the "pick and mix" penance by accident with another psyker (smyker) locking everything down 😆

[deft stump]

I did it duoing with a friend on oggy. When I was new on psyker. Guy decides dragging me to heresy fresh is good lul. 300 ping early game psyker goes about as you would expect. Painful.

[hoary mauve]

300 ping in Dark Tide is brutal. How do you play Havoc with it? Been curious.

[marble crater]

Karien compensates with skill

[deft stump]

With friends. Because honestly, you can get away with high ping on auric mael but not high havoc.

You can honestly do h26 with that ping.

[deft stump]

You mean internal panicking.

And praying things actually miss when dodging/sliding.

[hoary mauve]

Hmm, since you have to anticipate everything, do you prefer dodge/slide over blocking?

[deft stump]

Use both. Better to take a melee hit to stamina if a dodge/slide fails.

And yes, with high ping, you can get hit sliding unless the server decided to take pity and make you immune to single target no AoE melee in melee. On scum with THAT node.

Which leads to the joke about being a Saint.

Fire and guns are a death sentence though.

Cos with the lag, you are likely taking more ticks uncontrollably so you can't even migitate with jumping.

And in havoc, you can die in 0.3 secs to gunfire.

That's how long it takes for me to send/recieve feedback so I could be just dead before I see the shots.

Just note you will be hit by muties if they aren't at least half the room away and dogs/trappers just feel unfair. Trappers can shoot through closed doors and walls on high ping and dogs are just muties but worse. Bonus they refused to get pushed at times like bursters so pain.

[plucky flax]

Real shii

[rigid sky]

You have to know they will shoot before they will shoot

It's like dodging Titan landslides before we got euro servers in FFXIV lol

[deft stump]

I guess that is a good way to put it. Why dodging muties go from near misses to requiring about half a room distance to dodge.

[cosmic cobalt]

this is kinda cheating but you're on 300 ping

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/702

I still use it for trapper net because sometime they go through wall

[formal dew]

Lost range sniping and soulflame spread

[formal dew]

Use surge and warp nexus

I don't know how but I managed to pop like 8 enemies with one use of the zap attack

[steel flame]

Step 1. Get a greatsword
Step 2. Psychically blow someones head off from across the map through a wall by swinging a sword
Step 3. Feel like a fucking badass

It never stops feeling cool executing specials with a warp slash triggered brain rupture

[rustic helm]

i can't even play psyker without my whole team dying, feels like i have to play my main most of the time.

[steel flame]

Wdym?

[marble crater]

What I read was "I'm so bad at psyker, my team has to compensate and dies trying"

[rustic helm]

not even that

teammates never stay in the bubble shield so we can pick off the gunners and reapers that keep shooting at us

[steel flame]

Oh

I see

Use empathic evasion

Don't be a slave to the bubble

[rustic helm]

you right

[steel flame]

Try shield walls if you still want walls

[rustic helm]

i might honestly use venting shriek

[marble crater]

Try shriek to kill the gunners instead of trying to defend against the gunners

[steel flame]

Do it. Try to maximize your peril gains to get the most outta shriek

Also builds your ability to manage peril

[rustic helm]

alr, i've been trying to use brain rapture to take out high priority targets.

[marble crater]

You can still do that

[steel flame]

Fire dot can trigger kinetic flayer

It's great

[wispy pumice]

you can shriek through walls to get dogs off your teammates, rare but neat interaction.

[rustic helm]

noted

i'll keep that in mind..i'm also going to build more into empowered psionics

[long saddle]

the other two keystones are generally better

[rustic helm]

alr

imma do what i did with ogryn and do extensive research xd

[steel flame]

If you wanna keep it as a build, Dual shield is also better for that if you still want to use ep. Both charges of shield wall trigger bb speed up

[rustic helm]

peak

gonna try and speedrun my psyker to rank 30 before i begin making builds

[steel flame]

Must be pretty close if you already have ep

Guns and assail are your best level up tools. I'm sure you've already gotten the "staves are really terrible below max stats" tip

[rustic helm]

i haven't

but i have been using the inferno force staff

pretty cool weapon

[steel flame]

I have mixed feelings on inferno staff. Not gonna broach that conversation today

[marble crater]

[wispy pumice]

Best designed weapon in the game imo, need more like it to shake up the meta

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-tom-hardy-uhh-thats-bait-point-mad-max-gif-15591117

[tall plover]

Does Distrupt Destiny Proc on ANY marked enemy Kill or Do I have to be the one to take them down?

[marble crater]

You have to, your team doesn't see them

[tall plover]

Mkay thanky

[rustic helm]

think i could use venting shriek with smite? asking for a possible build i might make

[marble crater]

Oh no

[wispy pumice]

Don’t mention smite, you won’t hear the end of it

[rustic helm]

uh oh

is it really that bad?

[steel flame]

It's avery usable build

[marble crater]

Can you? Yes
Is it strong? Yes
Should you? No

[rustic helm]

an unbalanced meta thing?

[steel flame]

Don't let chat stop you. We have history here. Smite sets some people off for reasons beyond my capacity to give a shit

[wispy pumice]

it’s been likened to a pause the game button

[marble crater]

It's boring to play, boring for the team and not great if you actually want to learn pyker

Other than that it's very powerful at what it does

[wispy pumice]

it’s like mentioning voldemort

[rustic helm]

fair enough, i'll make a build after i learn the jist of it

i'll use brainburst and assail until then

[steel flame]

Shriek/smite can be so strong that noone else gets to play the game. Also smite has so many sets of training wheels on your peril that it creates bad peril management habits

[rustic helm]

yikes

[steel flame]

It's nigh on impossible to blow yourself up with smite

It's annoying

[wispy pumice]

Surprised smite hasn’t been touched by the brush of nerf

[rustic helm]

"unlimited power" emperor palpatine

[steel flame]

Hitting 100 with smite doesn't just stop you it drops your peril back down to 80

Nothing else in the game does this

[rustic helm]

sounds boring

i'd rather not do boring, i'd rather control hordes with the inferno staff

[wispy pumice]

correction don’t mention smite in this discord, most people in game are indifferent or happy they get to steam roll, but that kinda depends on who you’re playing with atp

[leaden berry]

So boring but with fire?

[wispy pumice]

THIS smite inferno build CLEARS the LEADERBOARD of TEAMMATES.

[rustic helm]

i am not using smite with inferno, that's overkill

[steel flame]

Personally I substitute an inferno staff for a blazing spirit greatsword, much more engaging

[rustic helm]

i like fire related things

[steel flame]

Well if you want it once you are leveled up, here ya go https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00aa358-26ff-4d52-91ba-559682ebd0e9/zazys-blazing-spirit-greatsword-unga-bunga-experience

[rustic helm]

LMAO

[tall plover]

Which Keystone would be best to pair with Brain burst and a flame staff? Im rocking the marking one now but Im unsure on how i feel about it

[radiant frigate]

plasma gun

[wispy pumice]

Warp siphon has a soulblaze subnode, bottom left side of the tree.

[steel flame]

(for psyker)

[radiant frigate]

warp siphon because it's just straight +damage and cdr

[tall plover]

Mkay

[radiant frigate]

get on it fatshark, plasma psyker time

[tall plover]

Should I bother with Crystalline Will or no? Im usually very good about keeping my peril under check

[radiant frigate]

no

[steel flame]

It's a trap talent

[tall plover]

Empyric Resolve? Sounds nice but again Im good at My peril mangament

[wispy pumice]

erm my psykerburster would say otherwise

[radiant frigate]

meme talent for a meme build

[wispy pumice]

Shhhhh

[rustic helm]

blaze force greatsword is nice.

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword mentioned

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[rustic helm]

so satisfying

[dire wharf]

Yes, my beloved, he did just call BFG's "nice"

[rustic helm]

big fricking sword

[tall plover]

What is the dump stat for a Inferno Staff

[rustic helm]

question, if not ep, then what keystone should i build into?

probably warp siphon?

[long saddle]

warp res

[tall plover]

Mkay thank

[long saddle]

it's good for staves

[rustic helm]

good to know

[white sky]

What's the lowest warp res you can actually get?

[rustic helm]

think i should get a wound curios?

[radiant frigate]

hhuge fuckinf sord

[dire wharf]

1 i think

[white sky]

That'd be what

4x79 1x0

?

[white sky]

Never tbh, unless you're on a specific zealot build

[dire wharf]

What

[white sky]

Stats on buy

[rustic helm]

ok, so i just need to learn to be very careful with only two wounds then

[dire wharf]

I think the rolls tend to skew above 60

[tall plover]

Does the base charge and Cool down of brain burst give enough time to get the Pennence for 4 Elites/Sepcialists within 12 seconds?

[dire wharf]

Like that

It was a 3 when I bought it

[white sky]

Yeah, but hypothetically you can get a sub 10 warp res weapon

[white sky]

From memory yes but I got that year one

[dire wharf]

Yeah I've gotten a few below 10.

[white sky]

Yeah, so, I want to know if it can be sub 5

Or possibly sub 3

[dire wharf]

@white sky lowest I've gotten was 1

[white sky]

Did it stay 1?

Like

1 when you were done upgrading it

[dire wharf]

No, though it is possible to roll a 80,80,80,1

[white sky]

Yeah

I think that's what I'm looking for then

Thank you

[dire wharf]

np

[white sky]

Alright I got one more question

Do you like my drip, psykers? I feel homeless in the best way rn.

[radiant frigate]

solid use of The Homeless Collection™ sibling

[dire wharf]

Yeah, one of my setups is like this, just with a different head piece

[white sky]

Thank you, thank you

[rustic helm]

plague ogryn started chasing me after unloading two full mags of laspistol in its forehead

lowkey scared me

[white sky]

Yeah that's me with less head covering

[rustic helm]

i need to drip up my psyker like i did with my ogryn and zealot

[olive oar]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0a8983a-a075-4a9e-8204-04c2f489a1c2/psyker-veteran-mark-ii-havoc-40-auric-solo
Pick elites with BB, shoot special shell on rooms full of heretics, melee when they get close. Normal shoot while ADS to snipe specials if speed is needed. BB on bosses till EP charges run out then unload shotgun then melee till criting three times, reload.
Ranged needs to get used to, but I love the shotgun.

[long saddle]

ignore me blowing myself up too much, but machinegun surge surge is real in the event

[rustic helm]

yall

big sword, assail, and laspistol

so fun

and telekine shield

[olive oar]

Depends, it's totally viable and all three blitzes can dominate with this keystone, actually, I guess the psyker has the best collection of keystones as all three are extremelly viable, the one I like least because of how it requires one type of playstile to work is Disrupt Destiny, that is really strong, by the way.

[olive oar]

You have to take them down.

[long saddle]

I didn't say it was bad

just that the other two are generally better

since they work with more things than just blitz spam

[olive oar]

It's good, people think it's boring and make their whole personalities the fact that they don't like and don't understand how it properly works.

[long saddle]

there is no upside to not spending your EP charges for example

no passive boosts while having them

[rustic helm]

i found out that it stops mutants from charging at me

[olive oar]

With Shriek? Guess people won't have problems with that as the bursts are too short.

[rustic helm]

found out after seeing a mutant stun itself repeatedly just to grab me bc i fell behind

[long saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[rustic helm]

ohhhh

you're talking about smite

i thought you were talkinng abt the telekine shield xd

[olive oar]

This is, for me, the most boring thing on psyker, if I have a total of 20 games with inferno it will be too much.

[rustic helm]

the only time i'd use smite is to help with hordes

or stun key targets so my teammates don't get eaten

or when one of us has to restart the interrogator

[olive oar]

Without EP your main uses for Smite are:
Trigger Burster from afar.
Allow party member to revive another or complete objective.
Lock and opens walls of Bastions and Crushers ( Reason why I deeply dislike the gif, as Bastions are legitimate targets )
And when there's those horde of dogs, they have low health so a held smite can kill them all without much risk. ( with warp unbound ).
This last one is a little more advanced but I've been doing this myself, to scape cornering myself as sometimes the horde just spawns on you, so I hold Smite a little and let it go to tumble all the enemies giving me space to reposition and start to attack again, sometimes you can also do this if ally is in such predicament as well.

[rustic helm]

perfect

exactly how i plan on using smite

[shrewd barn]

I 100% understand why psyker is hated

by other classes

Untill its high havoc time

[rustic helm]

i will do lots of research so i'm a good psyker

and not heretical for letting my teammates die

[marble crater]

The pins will be a great help with that

[rustic helm]

thinking about making a melee psyker build

[olive oar]

You can try this one, easy as smackig a Heretics head. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1e65941-5b5a-43cf-b299-98c9f018f452/warp-lightning-battlemage-mark-ii
If you don't want a shotgun I recommend the Electrokinetic on this setup. Focusing on crit chance and faster m2 charge.

[rustic helm]

battlemage is so tuff

what if i use the greatsword as the main weapons laspistol and have smite be the last resort when things begin to get a little overwhelming?

maybe some kind of staff

not inferno tho, that's defeat the purpose of smite

maybe the electric staff?

[quartz barn]

ngl i dont really use my blitz on ek

but it really depends on how you play ek

smite is prob still the best blitz to pick tho

[olive oar]

Talking about builds, My Illisi tests seem to have reached a plateau, it is incredible performatic against everything but Crushers, if it weren't for the Crusher HP buff it would be ok, but now it's really subpar if you don't have a team. And I noticed something troubling with the psyker, If you don't have a melee weapon that can deal with armor well, all secondaries are lacking against Crushers. Just noticed this, because as the build don't have peril reduction talents, even staffs become hard to use against them.

[olive oar]

Guess you'd want to go full Smite but that also have some other options, this is in the right spot for what you're saying: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1615cb0-dfc3-4615-b8f6-9c6cc6911df3/devils-smiting-claw

It allows you to do this: https://youtu.be/p4455DhoR6c

[static vessel]

Smite

https://tenor.com/view/cat-it's-peak-cat-it's-coal-its-peak-its-mid-gif-12295099395828911145

[static vessel]

Also yeah. Crushers are designed to be anti ranged by default.

Theres a handful of ranged weapons that do well against them

It should remain that way too.

Some melee weapons. Like the chain axe, chain sword and the Devils Claw especially, require buffs on their carpace damage

-# I really don't wanna live in a world where ranged shreds carapace and I hate Mr E for even suggesting such a stupid thing

[olive oar]

My problem with carapace is that it's feast or famine, either you have a weapon dedicated to deal with it or you'll die by it. In a game where you can carry only two weapons and a blitz that is often of limited use, this adds a constraint in our customization potential that is already really constrained.

It's incredible how some part of community treats Wildfire as if it did nothing, the difference is like night and day, this is a scoreboard from a game that I had used a Reccon Lasgun, EP, BB, Deimos with Blazing Spirit and SG. In this goofy setup warpfire gave me almost the same damage potential than an Enhanced Brain Burst. I'm surprised for this to be considered such an unpopular opinion.

[thorn cedar]

Never really bought this argument lol

It's more like "you either delete them or you have to learn to dodge 🙁 "

[steady elk]

Does psyker play like Sienna does in VT2?

[thorn cedar]

kinda yea

[static vessel]

Sienna has actual risk

Cost n reward

[steady elk]

Psyker is less punishing?

[static vessel]

There is no punishment.

[round iris]

Use power to much = boom ur down and teammates just pick you back up

[white sky]

Psyker isn't costed health to quell peril, for instance

[static vessel]

Psyker you need to just pay attention to your peril and press r

[steady elk]

Fair

[static vessel]

Sienna you can quell but you'll lose health

[thorn cedar]

Well there is a punishment but yeah

Your magic isn't tied to HP here

[static vessel]

On some builds you can near completely avoid ever needing to press r

[round iris]

I have a build for that or you can see the hundreds online

[static vessel]

I do as well

[round iris]

Almost never have to actually quell just near infinite lightning

[verbal thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[static vessel]

Learning how to dodge isnt too difficult

[round iris]

It really feels like the most effective build as far as noticeable stun lock impact mid fight

[static vessel]

I feel a lot don't know how to not box themselves in or know how to dodge

A lot of the time I'm the last person alive because I know when to fall back.

[round iris]

Just dodge while holding the lightning button , everyone is stunlocked and you are never hit win win

[static vessel]

Smartest gray name ever

Elite ball knowledge

Yeah smite literally locks them in place so you don't need to worry

[round iris]

It’s disappointing when we’re fucking surrounded and my fellow psykers go down , I’m like fucking really ? U could have just pulled out ur greatsword and lived but noooo

[static vessel]

Yeah

Great forcesword is very op

And already does a great job at fighting carpace

[round iris]

Imop if ur not using it ur doing psyker wrong

Best survival tool for them

Especially if ur not running a overcharge build

[static vessel]

I wouldn't say that since theres other great melees for psyker.

[round iris]

U need it to live through the overwhelming hoards in damnation and auric

[static vessel]

Though its like

So awesome to kill a trapper right before they shoot

[round iris]

I never tried Anny others then again so idk lol

[static vessel]

And dogs midair

It has so much range.

[round iris]

It’s mele attacks or its energy slice ?

[static vessel]

Its melee attacks

The heavy melee wacks shit like a foot away from you

And kills bulwarks in like one hit

[round iris]

Never noticed , but again I literally only use that mele weapon lol

[static vessel]

But thats bc my build invests a lot into melee

[static vessel]

Do you use the all wide light attacks one or the other

I strongly prefer the other mark

[round iris]

Ok I’m not well versed in what’s what in the builds and skill trees so remind me again what u mean ?

[thorn cedar]

Apparently it is cause the majority of the playerbase thinks/feels Crushers insta-delete them on sight lol

[round iris]

Unless you mean do I just light span or heavy attach in wich case both

Whatever is needed in the moment

Wide side to side swings are best for in ur face boards and a charged hold attach for carapaces enemy’s and they are dead in a few swings

[thorn cedar]

FGS is fun but I get tired of having dodges that actually move me backwards in time

[round iris]

I’m baisically a mood and I can do that np ppl need to get good

[static vessel]

Ik but i mean which mark. I think I can already fuess

[round iris]

I forget tbh

I think two

[static vessel]

Does it go left right left right in almost a straight line

[round iris]

On light attacks yeah

[static vessel]

Ah that one

Knew it

The one i use have more diagonal attacks

[round iris]

Mk1 ?

[round iris]

How diagonal ?

[round iris]

Also what other classes do you enjoy? I’m really only a psyker main because I find the space wizard fantasy to be peak and my favorite and it’s hard to not play with psychic abilities, ogryum is fun

I like being a tank and haveing a shield

But still lightning go burr

[white sky]

Wonderful news, only two psyker penances left

[static vessel]

Melee Psyker, Zealot, Arbitrator, Vet, Scum.

Oggy havent touched in a bit.

[round iris]

I got a question as I’m not to auric but I’m about to be in a few campaign missions

How effective are less meta builds ? Will I have a hard time without meta considering most of my games are randos and I really only play coordinated with my boys ?

I’m sure there are some builds that are just better for solo queue like a infinite smite build but like can I use off meta builds and still be solid in rando lobby’s

[static vessel]

Infinite smite will condemn you to an eternal damnation after you die.

[static vessel]

Also no you don't need to play Meta to do well in this game. Playing off meta is just more fun

[round iris]

Dually noted

[round iris]

And how so ?

[static vessel]

Also dueling sword sucks

[static vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/hellfire-skeleton-magma-hell-inferno-gif-13228999402859807274

This person used smite.

[round iris]

I probably won’t use nun besides my greats word lol

[static vessel]

noice

[round iris]

Rip that guy

I totally won’t end up like him

[static vessel]

Tac axe is a great weapon too. It stops mutants when you do the special attack weakspot hit

[round iris]

Oohh nice , but also my lightning or void strikes will stop them in there tracks

They usually die feet from me when they charge me lol

[static vessel]

void strike does? I cant keep track of staffs

Ik eletric has a guranteed stun in one or two shots

[round iris]

It dosent stunlock them they just die fast af from it cus I do so much damage

They may aswell be stunned because again they drop feet from me every time lol

[round iris]

One shot guaranteed stun

But its damage sucks needs a buff bad

Only good for stunning or killing squishys far away

[olive oar]

Dodging won't make them go away. Other said that Crushers are anti ranged, but that's not the case because a lot of the melee options can't deal with them as well.
Fatshark recognized the Crusher problem, but their solution of simply reducing their numbers wasn't an elegant solution. But it reduces the stress of everybuild having to be able to deal with Crushers. If at least not all the team mates leaves the Carapace killing to the next guy, then the team is cooked.

[olive oar]

Mutants requires two zaps to stun, damage is ok.

[wicked hornet]

does anyone use vortex mod manager?

[steel flame]

I do

Haven't had any problems, long as you remember to deploy after updates

[rich spindle]

Old crushers were good as a movement skill check. A lot of people don’t know how to kite and fold if a crusher is alive for more than 4 seconds

[steel flame]

can we please stop trying to be nostalgic about the olden days of crusher spam

[rich spindle]

They needed a slight reduction for visual clarity of overheads

So that they don’t overlap into eachother

But people really exaggerate how impossible it is to deal with the slowest most telegraphing enemy in the game

[steel flame]

What they needed was to make a different armored ogryn as a stop gap between crushers and wallgryns that don't posses one shot mechanics.

[steel flame]

Oh yeah, perfectly reasonable trying to kill one crusher inside the hitbox of 20 others

Easy

So slow,

[rich spindle]

You kill the ones you hit

[steel flame]

Oh and their hammers having a wider hitbox than their model so a hammer can hit you without you seeing it because it's inside the model of another crusher? Def not a problem

[rich spindle]

I agreed overlapping was a problem

[dire wharf]

Absolutely never

[steel flame]

Will be happy to never go back to crusher spam

Mauler tax is much more bearable

[wicked hornet]

mine wont work. Like it's not registering I have mods

[rich spindle]

What we have now is pretty boring

[white sky]

Crushers probably feel over nerfed cause you were used to Rot Spam too

[steel flame]

In what way

[white sky]

Rot Armor rotating off+crusher spawn rate nerfs makes them feel extinct

[steel flame]

Guess youll just have to play with something else other than inferno then

[rich spindle]

?

[verbal thistle]

lmao

[steel flame]

Gottem

[olive oar]

There's one problem with Windows and how vortex creates shortcuts. Just one sec and I'll explain

[steel flame]

9/10 psykers saying the game is boring have simply optimized the fun outta the game, live a little

Or they have an inferno/smite addiction

[marble crater]

reverse skill issue

[rich spindle]

Does he know

[steel flame]

I strive to never know

[rich spindle]

Copy that

[olive oar]

There's the "toggle_darktide_mods.bat" file in the game folder, you have to run this file for the mods to be enabled. But Vortex use the shortcut as a link file, and when you run the shortcut it won't find the game path. To fix this and enable the mods do these steps:
Find the Darktide/Content Folder.
There you wil find the toggle_darktide_mods.bat file as a shortcut.
Right Click and open it's folder and copy the original file.
Return to the Darktide/Content folder.
Erase the shortcut of the toggle_darktide_mods.bat
Paste a copy of the toggle_darktide_mods.bat that you copied from the original folder.
Now it will work properly and the mods you installed will work

[steel flame]

Using deploy will run the toggle bat

Just gotta hit deploy mods button above your list of mods

[olive oar]

If the nexus mod manager creates the toggle_darktide_mods.bat as a symlink file, it won't work, this is what happens on my instalation, everytime a mod updates I have to redo this process everytime.

[steel flame]

Weird. Vortex got new extension downloads for dark tide to streamline that pretty recently

Whole reason I swapped over actually

Did it manually for 3 years

[steel flame]

Did you install mod framework as a mod in vortex? That's what I did

[olive oar]

This step usually works for all users, and it started acting out strangely with me for about a year. I don't know what causes it but it's the symlink shortcut that makes the bat file unable to locate darktide folder. So it won't enable mods, it won't happen for all users, so I don't know what causes it in the first place.

[olive oar]

Attention, if you have a symlink shortcut file and try to paste the original file without first erasing the symlink, it won't paste the new file, this is because a symlink file works as if it was for all purposes the original file it shortcuts to. It's two pointers in the disk that points to the same file, it's not a simple shortcut.

[steel flame]

Sadly I don't quite have the same knowledge of vortex interactions with danktide as I do with creation engine, nor have I really felt the need to. Darktide is a pretty low effort modding experience compared to a lot of things

To this day I don't miss having to run 7 separate programs every time I changed my load order in Skyrim

[final relic]

How does the middle talent tree of psyker work? I get some sort of enhanced things? Not quite shure what they do and stuff like that. Can someone explain to me?

[steel flame]

Are we taking about the capstones?

[final relic]

Not sure. My game is in german. Its the last tree at the end. The Middle one

Purple

[steel flame]

Purple?

So middle buffs your blitz (ability on G). Killing gets you stacks and while you have a stack your next blitz is enhanced

Depending on which blitz you have it changes the buffs

[final relic]

Ah i see. G is the main thing i use so i guess its usefull. I use the shards you throw on G

[steel flame]

Ye assail

Funny rocks

[final relic]

I love them

I think i never had a more satisfying weapon in any other game

[steel flame]

It's very fun

The kills don't need to be with your G either. Any kills will generate stacks

[final relic]

Ty for the help. I will have to go to bed now though as its already late for me. By by

[steel flame]

Gn

[wicked hornet]

I don't have that folder. how do I get it?

[olive oar]

It's not in the binaries folder, but the content, at least for me, as it's the gamepass version.

But look in the game folder for the toggle_darktide_mods.bat file, if it's a shortcut, that's the problem that I talked about, then you'll just have to do the steps I listed above.

[primal blade]

aagh

I just got a new inferno staff

and god

I miss the voidstrike's artillery kaboom

every time i use it

but the blue fire

the fuckin blue fire

scratches part of my brain so much

I am really going to need Skitarii to scratch the same itch xd

[uneven nexus]

What's the best way to complete the cliffhanger penance, cause it is low-midkey a complete and utter pain in the...well it's highly annoying

[wicked hornet]

says this when I click on the bat file

[urban meteor]

I literally mixed servers up

do not ever refer to what I previously said, if known

[steel flame]

did you download the update version of mod loader or the new install version

[olive oar]

This is because the folder is not the same, you have to put the bat file.

[ripe gazelle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0a667cd-4d49-4f68-8cf8-2f1ee57eab29/melee-with-walls-or-scriers-havoc-40-focus
so i bet this is offmeta but to what extent?

[rich spindle]

What do you mean by the extent of off meta

[ripe gazelle]

Like is it still pretty viable for higher stuff?

[rich spindle]

Yeah

The force great sword is the strongest melee in the game

That’s one of the better builds for carrying a havoc 40

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/o8URPXC9rl

[ripe gazelle]

Ah, alright, neat. It has a lot of other options listed throughout the description and the like, but is the telekine walls in particular super viable? been trying them and theyre certainly fun af

[rich spindle]

They scale with how good you are at using them

[crisp ether]

They're better than people give them credit for.

But they're not as easy to use as bubble.

[rich spindle]

If you know all the specialist spawn points and can think ahead they’re about a sidegrade to scriers

[crisp ether]

However, I'd argue a good wall shielder is more impactful than a good bubble shielder imho

Cockblocking mutants alone is such a massive boon in havoc.

[rich spindle]

In general everything is viable into higher difficulties

[wicked hornet]

new install

[ripe gazelle]

i also cant figure out where assail fits into the build i sent

or like what purpose it serves

[wicked hornet]

thank you! this worked

[rustic helm]

i got a build in the mix

[rich spindle]

It’s just for pathing through

You can path thru bb or smite if you want

[ripe gazelle]

im out of the loop, dunno what that means

[rich spindle]

You need to select one to reach the bottom nodes

So he just selected assail

[ripe gazelle]

oh oh oh

so in other words it just didnt matter which blitz lol

[rich spindle]

Ye

[rustic helm]

what we thinking so far?

[rustic helm]

i'm not entirely sure where to go from there, i might just trail and error it

i think i'll get kinetic deflection next

[crisp oriole]

I have a question regarding psykers viability

[ripe gazelle]

is head where you attack crusher?

[crisp oriole]

How fast psyker should be kicked for not bringing inferno staff?

[ripe gazelle]

thats a silly reason to kick..?

unless youre organizing an ultrameta team i dont think you should do that

[verbal thistle]

I mean, I usually report them and block if they dont have fire stick

so depends on your reaction time

[formal harness]

you have 2.8 seconds before timer runs out

[crisp oriole]

Yeah after 3 seconds psyker soloes the map

[dire wharf]

Gotta dox them too don't forget, and call their place of work

[verbal thistle]

tell their parents, so they can shame them

[ripe gazelle]

Oh, wow! Sorry, you're correct, I seem to have been mistaken. Yes, you should make sure to kick Psykers that are not wielding Inferno Staffs less than 3 seconds after you notice! Apologies for the inconvenience.

[rustic helm]

what

[verbal thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[crisp oriole]

We should create a list of non inferno users and publicly shame them for not being superior enough to other classes

[rustic helm]

i'm genuinely so confused

[crisp oriole]

If you confused just spam lmb

[jovial juniper]

Weak Aura

Strong Aura plays with whatever psyker

[rustic helm]

i guess i'll work on an inferno staff build so i'm not shamed or something

[jovial juniper]

Weak Aura

[rustic helm]

you right

i'll play with melee instead

[ripe gazelle]

i will wear shame with pride
wait what?

[rustic helm]

...still gonna make an inferno build because i like fire

[ripe gazelle]

im looking between these two for the consensus-technically-best melee psyker build https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Av6T7DJRkm78M3csiZec6p7-cHXOWiKyjpOJ-FWV3g/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0#heading=h.7olbee9y2bp5 (i assume scrier version of this one is considered closer to meta) https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0a667cd-4d49-4f68-8cf8-2f1ee57eab29/melee-with-walls-or-scriers-havoc-40-focus

[jovial juniper]

The one with Perilous Combustion is better

[kind jay]

no mind in motion?

how can meta when mind not motion

[ripe gazelle]

hey hey look im not good at game or building yet, so i wouldnt know

[ripe gazelle]

The gameslantern one (which i know is a bad word but bonanza does have this one listed so its different...) has this as the explanation

Perilous Combustion

• For non-soulblaze builds, this is rarely noticeable aside from shotgunner waves, which are already easy to kill

[jovial juniper]

No perilous combustion=bad

That's just how it is

[ripe gazelle]

nah. im not willing to accept that as a reason lol

[jovial juniper]

Then you'll have a bad build

[ripe gazelle]

especially bc im already playing with other soulblazers

[jovial juniper]

No PC = bad
It's just how it is

[ripe gazelle]

hahahaha okey okey

[ripe gazelle]

oh also im pretty sure the havoc40 one expects quelling so infrequently that other talents just become priority

[thorn cedar]

active quelling is basically dead beyond h30 yeah

[rich spindle]

theyre pretty much the same thing

at a certain point minimal build tweaks become meaningless

all about circumstance

[glad basin]

What is a good melee psyker build that uses inferno force staff and the force greatsword?

[olive oar]

Inferno staff is so broken that it overcentralizes every build, so every inferno build can be a Melee build, but nobody do so because you have the Inferno Staff to begin with.

Reason why I went to the Zarona Combat Shotgun, and I also dislike Inferno as well. So this was easy.

[ripe gazelle]

i imagine both the weapons serve a similar enough role that it ends up being that one is consistently the better choice over the other depending on the details of your build

[olive oar]

This would be the case on most builds, but staffs tend to take the spotlight because they have infinite ammo, great crowd control and high damage. So they eclipse everything else. That's why I like to try builds without staffs. Because otherwise it will be simply a staff build that I'm refusing to use the staff because I simply don't want to.

[ripe gazelle]

electrokinetic + sword seems like it works pretty well

[olive oar]

Yeah, Because Electrokinetic have a gapping flaw if you don't build specifically for it. It acts as a Sniper rifle or revolver in the Psyker's arsenal.

So we can't abuse it all the time.

Unless m1 spam. Then you just do that

[ripe gazelle]

mhm. its like blaze force sword for any other staff, good utility to fill a gap in the rest of the setup

[jovial juniper]

this event helps meeting breakpoints for BB so WS can shine

but it feels so gross without EP

[frail oar]

Havent tried that yet this event looks fun

[olive oar]

Then people claim that Smite is the problem, one team member is down, three crushers in front of me, I start smiting them and all behind, the other two team mates rush forward leaving the three crushers to me and get downed ahead. Lovely, just lovely.

[hollow jolt]

it is because I want big damage lightning

not small damage lightning :c

[crisp ether]

I mean. In this case you were just relying on your team to get you out of that instead of just killing them yourself. I do say that kind of points to Smite not really helping you much here.

[olive oar]

Your view is skewed as if this was a single person game, I had a team, we were already in not a good shape, 3 crushers and horde appears, I stun everything, instead of team locking on the biggest threat they ran past it and triggered a boss fight and died leaving me to fight those 3 crushers and a Bastion and a horde. If they saw that I was able to stun the carapace enemies, why not kill it? This is the problem.

[rich spindle]

You kill them youself

[olive oar]

If I was a book priest and my team rushed forward would you have said the same thing?

[olive oar]

I pull these numbers with my build, I kill everything.

[rich spindle]

lol

[olive oar]

But then I would have to kill those three crushers, the bastion, the horde, the boss, revive the first team mate that died earlier and revive the two dumbasses who left me behind. Like a real pro.

[rich spindle]

Yeah

[jovial juniper]

Kill everything but failed to kill

Interesting

[crisp ether]

Overreliance on your team is not a good thing even if it is a team game.

[kind jay]

sometimes you gotta hit ptt and voice your intentions

[ripe gazelle]

They absolutely would. Book Zealot is kinda out of favor for this exact reason
-# generally every build you can design for a zealot, theres usually another class that does it better ime. used to love it but i just cant justify playing zealot anymore

[spiral storm]

I wish they would buff the other staffs to be viable

well

"viable in high havoc"

[jovial juniper]

Don't worry

Skitarii tomorrow

With arc rifle

[spiral storm]

?

[jovial juniper]

So Ek buff incoming

[spiral storm]

tomorrow?

[jovial juniper]

(no)

[spiral storm]

(oh)

I just wish surge staff was less of a weird

single-ish target staff

and more of a channeled single target melter

[ripe gazelle]

it sounds like a lot of the staves are absolutely viable in high havoc. just not meta. no?

[spiral storm]

yeah most of the staffs are usable in like 20-ish havoc

some more than others

purge is top
Trauma can be pretty good and similar in terms of crowd control potential and still pukes damage

the others eeeh

[ripe gazelle]

i mean ive been looking around and it looked like melee+electrokinetic has proven to be viable in high havoc?

[jovial juniper]

It's likely M1 build yeah

[spiral storm]

surge can be fun but because of constant enemy scaling in havocs it doesn't hit hard enough

[ripe gazelle]

yeah trauma was the main staff i was also thinking of, esp. with another psyker on inferno bc soulblaze stacking

[spiral storm]

and the voidstrike is funny but if you're going for single target DPS

you could just stare them to death with purge staff

or trauma

[ripe gazelle]

we still callin it trauma but its voidblast?

[spiral storm]

I don't like the new staff names

voidstrike and voidblast are too similar