psyker-class

[boreal jetty]

Oof. I don't like either knife or duelling sword.

[kind jay]

when i have a build idea i just play with it for 5-10 rounds and feel it out

[rigid sky]

Greatsword needs more investment but is more powerful. I tend to take the greatsword for builds that melee more. 1H force swords are a great fast sidearm for a caster build, very good at cracking single targets

[rigid sky]

well that can be a good thing? Both of the good 1H force swords have their own movesets

but if you're taking a gun I'd take the greatsword instead. If you do go greatsword, take the attack speed talent.

[kind jay]

the problem with trying to math out effectiveness of a talent is that ideal situations don't always occur in active gameplay

[boreal jetty]

Noted.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[kind jay]

[dire wharf]

Based indeed

[steel flame]

No it's not, max warp rider is 80%

It's simply asking you to be able to juggle peril

[kind jay]

isn't it 100 for the full 20%?

[dusk timber]

theres also the SG subnode that lets you ignore overloading as a mechanic

[olive oar]

WR is a 2% damage per 10% peril.
80% means a bonus of 16% damage
SG has a base 10% bonus + 10% weakspot + 20% crit chance
SG lasting longer has a much higher average expected value.

[steel flame]

........ok

Dunno why you are so hung up on warp rider

Peril gained/lost toughness is not very good

It's free damage putting it in warp rider

Honestly though, At this point I can't care less where you put it

You've already made up your mind

So keep your build exactly as you want and stop asking me about it

[olive oar]

Because when talking about builds it's basically heresy to suggest that WR, in some builds, specially with SG, it may be preferable to forego WR altogether because of talent points.
When summed up the bonuses WR means less than a 8% value increase.

[dire wharf]

As long as someone has fun with a build thats all that matyers IMO, could not care less if its not received well by others

[steel flame]

You asked me what I thought, I tested it. Said it was fine but could be improved. Told you possible ways it could be improved, it's fine if you don't want to change it.

I was done but you keep bringing the warp rider stuff up over and over again

[knotty saddle]

she ride my warp until I perilous combustion

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-fnaf-memes-freddy-fazbear-freddy-freaky-gif-12693495263874297725

[fathom adder]

With SG you can sit at 100% for 10 seconds after it wears off (and then turn it right back on again not long afterward), and it's not that hard to stay at or above 50% consistently

[white valley]

I used to like him more in the past, some of his recent statements are just wrong unfortunately

[rich spindle]

Repetition is the key 🔑 💯

Yeah, gotta heavy attack tho

[keen trail]

just got this after an auric match

🗿

after i clutched 1 segment of the map on melee psyker

[rich spindle]

Can I have the cheats too

[kind jay]

sure whats your poison? game genie? gameshark? cheat engine? steroid shot directly to the balls?

[crisp ether]

Why would something that just stacks with SG's damage be counterproductive with it

SG is so easy to overlap now that this is just a null point nowadays

[olive oar]

I bring it not because of you, this is an universal recommendation here no matter what, so when it's paired with SG I try to be as clear as possible on the math behind what's being talked about.

[crisp ether]

Yes. Because it's a good recommendation.

When SG functioned the way it used to, I could see the logic in Warp Rider not being a crazy good choice. But as it stands, SG is so easy to upkeep and overlap in practice that not taking Warp Rider at the times that you're juggling your high peril is just bottlenecking your output.

[jovial juniper]

Warp Rider is qualityslop
You only like/recommend it because it's good

Smh

[crisp ether]

Which, I suppose is fine. You're still doing a lot of damage. But it's just weird that you ask for recommendations, get recommendations, and then continue to argue with everyone on why it's not a good recommendation 😭

[knotty saddle]

i have done no testing and know nothing about building psyker

yes, you should take warp rider

trust me

[crisp ether]

It's like what is even the point in asking anymore?

[fresh reef]

Fun question I've been mulling over, what melee and ranged weapon do you guys think each of the three archetypes would use?

[crisp ether]

You're already deadset on not taking the one major recommendation.

[olive oar]

Then you're talking specificaly about the Voidstrike build, but I'm talking more broadly here.

[crisp ether]

No I'm just talking broadly in general

[knotty saddle]

what three archetypes

[crisp ether]

You are hard pressed to find a build that won't have Warp Rider

[olive oar]

I still have not put the recommendation into trial yet.

[crisp ether]

Because it's one of those talents you always get some kind of benefit from if you're playing psyker well.

[fresh reef]

Left, middle and right parts of the tree

[knotty saddle]

uhh...

could you like... name them

[buoyant maple]

Psykinetic
Protectorate
Gunslinger

Are the official designations for psyker’s 3 branches

[kind jay]

Billy, Jimothy, and Breadquanda

[crisp ether]

Then do it instead of trying to rely purely on the numbers for every metric.

[knotty saddle]

huh... gunslinger is probably dueling sword and laser pistol or something

[crisp ether]

Math is one thing. Practical application is another.

Stop asking about the recommendation and just try it.

[knotty saddle]

protectorate might be a bubble voidstrike psyker or something

just based off the name lol

psykinetic must be an evil inferno staff FGS user

[jovial juniper]

The protector would probably be very AoE focused

[buoyant maple]

Nah I think math-wise WR is worth

I’m Asian so I would know

[kind jay]

my teachers knew i would use algebra in life, they just didn't know it would be for darktide

... or did they

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-know-those-who-me-crow-cat-gif-11419861064493679358

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/but-here's-the-stapler-cat-meme-but-here's-the-kicker-cat-teeth-gif-8060168851988586290

[verbal thistle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/clap-with-me-chat-crygup

[knotty saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-are-slow-those-who-know-those-know-slow-gif-12557675227735314005

[steel flame]

I'ma 💯 🔑 your car

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/let's-be-serval-about-this-serval-cats-serval-peace-serval-caption-gif-14329903644948138512

[knotty saddle]

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HHzWslTX0AArbdO.mp4

[olive oar]

Isn't the purpuse of WR to make higher number go brrrr!

[rich spindle]

Warp rider is low damage boost not worth it just use something good like blazing spirit

[steel flame]

Don't you dare bring my baby into this

[rich spindle]

I’m #1 blazing spirit fan

I got the receipts

[buoyant maple]

WR is usually 12~16% damage bonus but it’s global and generally goes along with how psyker is played

[buoyant maple]

It’s not particularly high but it’s not nothing

If u take superiority complex on vet u should take WR on psyker because it’s usually similar damage bonus but work for all enemies

[steel flame]

Still mad we got illi right after they nerfed bloodthirsty

[crisp ether]

Yes. So why would the ability that's constantly raising your peril be antisynergetic, with the talent, that gives you more damage the higher it is

Just juggle your peril!

This is like one of the most important skills for a psyker.

[steel flame]

5 seconds of auto crits on a special kill. Only had it when obscurus was ass, died before it met the illi

[kind jay]

I'd forgotten about that

fuck i miss that

[fresh reef]

Yall remember Wrack and Ruin?

[knotty saddle]

juggle peril...? I just press scriers gaze and goon my warp

[fresh reef]

I miss it so much, man

[knotty saddle]

by the time the 10 seconds is up scriers is up again :3

[jovial juniper]

True
I've seen it

[crisp ether]

Exactly!

SG counts down while active anyway.

[fresh reef]

When are they gonna make smite fun

[knotty saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[rich spindle]

Tomorrow!

Yay ❤️

[fresh reef]

Praying for the day it gets turned into an AOE lightning bomb with a cooldown

[kind jay]

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/dogdiesamengodbless-gif-23866738

[rich spindle]

No more aoe nukes in darktide 😭

[verbal thistle]

poxhound when I explode 100% of my peril of smite into it

[kind jay]

there is in fact too much aoe

[fresh reef]

Nah more like zealot's stun nade

Not damaging, I mean

[verbal thistle]

shock mines?

[dusk timber]

shOwOck mines

[fresh reef]

Shock mines but cooler

[steel flame]

Oh yes shock mines are WAY more healthy than smite

[olive oar]

Smite is my beloved.

[dusk timber]

shock mines are fun because you can actually play the game while using them

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-cap-building-cap-china-big-cap-massive-cap-gif-15715195675676808399

[dusk timber]

fuck is that

[steel flame]

I still love my smite shriek unlimited casting build from awhile back. God it did a lot of damage. Noone else was allowed to play the game

[jovial juniper]

So smite

Wow

Full circle

[dusk timber]

quarter circle

[verbal thistle]

I found a turkey sitting outside my door

should I pet it

[olive oar]

https://youtu.be/p4455DhoR6c
So yeah, using warp rider

[dusk timber]

yes

then eat it

[jovial juniper]

It's not November yet

[kind jay]

teach it to play psyker

[verbal thistle]

I said hi to it

then it ran

😔

[rich spindle]

Rude turkey

[jovial juniper]

Get gloo'd lol

[crisp ether]

Impact nade supremacy

[olive oar]

Playing Smite is just like Inferno, it's fun!. ( At least for me )

[fiery stratus]

Did the surge staff get any better with the recent patch?

[lapis sorrel]

no

[crisp ether]

Not directly.

[dire wharf]

Ainz

Turkey are like geese

They will fuck your shit up

[verbal thistle]

I know, they are veryt common

[buoyant maple]

It’s just less crushers spawns making most weapons better

[knotty saddle]

yes, preferably with a deep vat of boiling hot oil

[verbal thistle]

we usually have groups of them walking around

[fiery stratus]

yeah I mean as an incidental thing, i know it didn't get directly buffed

[verbal thistle]

in my front yard

[buoyant maple]

Like, ogryn cleaver and Karsolas stocks both went up from this change lol

[crisp ether]

Then yeah I'd say it got better. Since as far as I'm seeing, there's less crushers

And quite a bit of everything else

[fiery stratus]

alright, so same thing

come on thick fish

just make it hit weakspots again

[buoyant maple]

Not possible, psykers can’t aim

[dire wharf]

One time I had like 3 dozen turkies walking through my yard, so I immediately go and post on twitter, there are turkies walking through my yard like they own the place. Immediately, an account named wild turkey gangs of boston replies, "we do own it"

[fiery stratus]

thankfully i dont need to, i have lightning thats magnetic for some reason

[buoyant maple]

[verbal thistle]

based

[crisp ether]

Tbf Surge surge staff was already crazy good in the first place and got better with this patch

Warp ball machine gun

[fiery stratus]

anything under a crusher basically gets fried, the carapace changes should make it a bit better id think

i dont get too into the technical details, too dumb, too lazy

[kind jay]

surge surge is my baby

I'll do 0 melee runs with that bad boy

[buoyant maple]

Blueballsman’s staff

[dire wharf]

Sad

[jovial juniper]

I think
I miss my crushers

[kind jay]

i know no sadness only death

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-i-miss-my-wife-gif-11815978239493048011

[rich spindle]

Yeah they reduced too much

[kind jay]

even in histg they are so few

we went from silent crushers to no crushers

[steel flame]

I get a pack of 16 of them in my yard all the time. They are always right up at the front door xP

[olive oar]

Just got my first 17% toughness on Psyker, wasn't particularly on the lookout, but cool.

[kind jay]

quickplayed into a loss screen lmao

[steel flame]

incredible stuff

home at last

time to swing my funny fire sword around some more

[kind jay]

im playing like shit today

[white valley]

Question

I remember hearing that monstrosities take reduced damage from warp attacks, is this correct?

[marble crater]

Possibly? Each armor type has different damage modifiers. I don't know them, but I wouldn't be surprised if that would be the case.
One of the pinned guides might have the information

[white valley]

Nah this is supposed to be a separate stat

Like how some enemies have explosion modifiers, such as poxburster which iirc have a 30x explosion modifier

Which is why basically any explosion makes them explode

[urban meteor]

This literally just happened to me in a insane way

I genuinely got a loading screen, debriefing, alright

after that

You have failed the Emperor!

Didn't even get the dead in a ditch cutscene

[kind jay]

yep

damn scoreboard didnt save my last run

[rich spindle]

Bb should do less than 1000 dmg in psyk if that’s true

[fathom adder]

And then get stuck in the mission failed screen for like a minute

[crisp ether]

Reduced crushers
Increased literally every fucking thing around them

[dusk timber]

i mean

[crisp ether]

It's actually been tripping me up how insanely dense the hordes are now

[dusk timber]

if they arent taking as much of the spawn budget

that budget has gotta go to something else now

[crisp ether]

Oh I'm aware of why it's happening.

But I was not expecting how much it'd affect the spawns of everything else comparatively

I have never seen regular 50+ rager spawns until now

I'm not even complaining. I like it. But I've been actually having trouble playing Havoc recently because it's actually quite a bit to get used to

[rich spindle]

the specialists are a little silly

[crisp ether]

Five pox bombers bro

My eyes were no longer viable means of perceiving threats

[rich spindle]

the bombers are the main reason

I dont like that theyre seperated by seeds

im cheating with the vfx mod that turns gas into a ground effect

[crisp ether]

Another thing I noticed is that I'm getting hit by bursters way more

Not necessarily because there's more of them but because they're hiding in the gigadense hordes

[deft stump]

A.K.A. the budget needs to be lowered a little. Because something is wrong when I start to do a mil damage on 300 ping.

[dusk timber]

nah

triple the budget

[deft stump]

Out of like 7 mil, the psyker did 4mil.

[kind jay]

this is driving me crazy. I'd rather fight 30 crushers. i killed 4 in one room earlier and it looked like the cult had taco bell

[crisp ether]

I would not rather fight 30 crushers. But I do acknowledge maybe the crusher numbers could be upped just a bit so there isn't so much of everything else in comparison

[dusk timber]

29 crushers

and a half

[crisp ether]

My guess is because crushers are a bigger cost for the AI director, their numbers being cut down means there's significantly more smaller units to compensate for them.

And we just didn't know how that calculation was gonna play out until now.

I do think if not that. At the very least they gotta do something about specialist spawns

[deft stump]

Specialists need to be hard capped.

[crisp ether]

At least some kind of cooldown for replacements when they die cuz it genuinely feels like they just do not stop spawning

[crisp ether]

They're hard capped in one way

You can only have so many specialists on the field.

That hasn't changed

[deft stump]

I dunno, I saw 5 trappers.

[crisp ether]

The frequency of that number being maxed out, definitely has.

[deft stump]

Maybe they died and insta spawned more.

[crisp ether]

That's what I believe is happening

[deft stump]

But that's just kinda stupid.

[crisp ether]

They're just spawning so quickly to replace the ones dying.

Because the AI director's budget has enough to just keep throwing spawns of em at you now that crushers aren't weighing that budget nearly as much.

[deft stump]

Why the budget needs a nerf or just force cooldowns for every special.

Like, you get 3 max then a cooldown happens.

[crisp ether]

Honestly I don't even think Fatshark knew this could happen

[deft stump]

I mean, they probably thought it would just go poof and such.

[crisp ether]

Since they've been leaning on crusher spam for so long, they probably never saw how cutting down their spawns would affect the AI director

[deft stump]

I guess they never really thought about it.

[dusk timber]

or maybe they did think about it and thought it'd be funny

[buoyant maple]

They already are

And none of the specialist spawn mechanics can break said cap

[kind jay]

they need to be hard capped with a gun

[steel flame]

they dont think about a lot really

how to recolor the worst skins mostly

[wintry lagoon]

Hey quick question! I cannot for the life of me complete the penance “Blessed by Fate” if anyone has any tips that would be awesome! I’ve tried so many different things and I’m still just stuck at 4/50. Is it bugged?

[jovial juniper]

Are you into the about to explode animation?

[wintry lagoon]

Yes but it still doesn’t seem to work for me sadly. I’m on ps5 but you’d think it’s achievable as I have 4/50 somehow

[rich spindle]

Interdasting

[wintry lagoon]

I’ll keep trying though thanks guys

[deft stump]

Question, do you have Crystalline Will?

If so, remove it.

[deft stump]

True. Explains all the typos and seemingly accidental deletes.

[wintry lagoon]

No Crystalline. I deleted the game and reinstalled it and I got it in my first game haha must’ve been broken. Thank you all again!

[frozen loom]

is it griefing to have two inferno psykers in the same havoc party

[knotty saddle]

griefing your fun, yes

[white valley]

It's ineffective, damage doesn't stack

Better to have an inferno psyker and a flamer zealot or a rending shockwave voidblast psyker

[frozen loom]

figured, thanks

[radiant frigate]

i mean what are the odds that two people in the same party want to play inferno

[icy breach]

Seen it plenty of times… always a loss too

[rigid sky]

I actually like inferno psyker lmao

But I only play it like one in every 30 games or so

I get to feel like a warp dragon

[vernal temple]

any idea why the game counted 12 deaths? I only had two bots die once during the entire thing.

does it count the bots as died and revived after every airlock?

also had one player join then leave. maybe that also counted as a bot death

still doesn't add up

[icy breach]

Bots dying count as deaths yes

[vernal temple]

yeah I know that

my question is why it counted 12, when there were only 2 deaths

2 bots died, I revived them in a sanctuary

I forgot that there is an entry and exit airlock in each sanctuary, so a total of 4. I guess when you press the button in the airlock and the game loads a new area it does count all the bots as "dying and revived" each time

but that's stupid

[icy breach]

Ye thats bizzare

[cloud folio]

@icy breach

#psyker-class message

I found a build during the match like that, want to try that, any ideas how to build around it

[icy breach]

Thats like the most classic meleeker there is

Maybe check pins?

[cloud folio]

doesnt classic meleeker use greatsword instead?

wait i messed up

[icy breach]

I mean you said they did use greatsword

[rigid sky]

The message you linked to said fgs

[cloud folio]

blaze force sword sorry

[rigid sky]

It's your own message lol

[icy breach]

It will work similarily

[cloud folio]

corrected it

[icy breach]

I doubt any changes will take place

[rigid sky]

I mean that looks like the shape mine has lol

[cloud folio]

THAT IS FROM the pinned

the build i saw had all assail nodes

[rigid sky]

Imo not worth the points

[icy breach]

Extra pierce node is worth it imo

[rigid sky]

Idk warp cleave kinda eats its lunch?

[icy breach]

They stack

Thats why its worth it

[cloud folio]

i am using illsi variant of sword

[rigid sky]

NGL I have no idea how to make that sword good in the current version of the game

I feel like Psyker needs melee to be able to crack armoured elites and Illisi just doubles down on what the rest of your kit already does

[rotund prairie]

Cracking heretics??

[rigid sky]

Soft targets generally

[cloud folio]

illsi is horde clear only not armoured elites

i cant understand how to make this sword work

deimos is only single target

mostly

for meleeker

[dire wharf]

1. Switch to mk VIII BFG
2. Profit

[cosmic sigil]

Mk6

[kind jay]

illisi is strong enough to handle pretty much anything outside crushers. i used to do fine with slaughterer and deflector

[cloud folio]

what perks

[cloud folio]

this is usual meleeker build right

[dire wharf]

Dunno

[dire wharf]

Why 6?

[kind jay]

i used maniac and flak originally. probably would still use those

[cloud folio]

no carapace?

[kind jay]

it's not very strong vs cara

but it was a long time ago cause i stopped when fgs released

im gonna need to bring it out again and run it with some current builds

but tbh it was my main melee before all the reworks and the special+slaughterer bumped it up enough to handle most stuff

[cloud folio]

either i see 3 psykers or 3 zealots

what happened to hive scummers

[cosmic cobalt]

executed

[jovial juniper]

Fent epidemic reached Atoma

https://tenor.com/view/loki-loki-sad-yes-very-sad-loki-show-marvel-loki-gif-23592461

[dark karma]

Call me lowskill, but I found that proper left click spam is great single target damage , and I run devil claw to be able to spam ripost if i got boss agro and heavy attack is enough to handle most of the "solo chaser"

[cloud folio]

it's not fent, it's new thing now

[jovial juniper]

I'm ngl you kinda lost me after lowskill

What's considered "proper left click"

Who tf is solo chaser

[cloud folio]

meleeker with this sword feels horrible

[jovial juniper]

Which one?

[dire wharf]

I love quick playig into a game and starting with 20hp, no ammo, and isolated

[kind jay]

lore accurate warhammer

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-this-is-where-the-fun-begins-star-wars-lets-begin-gif-17501807

[olive oar]

Pair the Devil Claw with Charged Strike, one of the blessings as wrath, you'll kill all non carapace effortlessly, and zero trouble to keep malefic momentum.

[cloud folio]

normal force sword

[jovial juniper]

[cloud folio]

it's meleeker build

[jovial juniper]

Deimos?
Obscurus?
Illisi?

[cloud folio]

im having fun with obscurus

it looks like allrounder

single target moveset is great and horde clear is decent

compared to others which are more focused

[jovial juniper]

That would be an accurate description

Iirc the attacks you use for hordes on the Deimos and Obscurus share the same profile

But obscurus has higher single target damage

[warm latch]

Is Kinetic Presence worth it on a shriek inferno build?

[cosmic sigil]

H1 > H2 stab, L1 > H2 stab

[jovial juniper]

That's
Damage Aura?

[warm latch]

Yes

[jovial juniper]

Not worth it
Pretty sure that's the answer

[rigid sky]

I take Obscurus as a caster sidearm usually. Best upfront damage, best single target DPS. Less burst than Deimos if you have freedom of timing and less impact though.

I have no idea how any of the 1h force swords work with melee builds though

[steel flame]

Better off using cooldown reduction

More shriek, more fire, faster elite kill times

You get more value than the 10% against just elites

[dire wharf]

@steel flame what perks are you using on heavy laspistol?

[kind jay]

probably unyielding/crit

was gonna ask too tho

it already melts everything and with unyielding it lets me nuke monsters

[thorn cedar]

unyielding elite if ur truly boss

[steel flame]

Crit chance, unyielding

[kind jay]

eau de toilette if ur hugo boss

[steel flame]

I mainly use it for bosses, reaper spam and guaranteed empathic evasion proc at range, but you can swap crit to maniac if you want

[fathom adder]

Instructions unclear, called boss a huge toilet

[pure plinth]

better single target, much worse horde clear and range than the fgs

better mobility

bit faster too

for the obscurus and deimos

havent tried illisi

[pure plinth]

slightly easier to proc malefic momentum with the special, and some added utility for captain shields

i rarely if ever find a reason to use the special with how much pure damage an obscusus can have on melee psyker

[rich spindle]

Just heavy attack the head, damage will be fine if you have dd stacks, scriers, etc

[olive oar]

Illisi is a terrible weapon, don't have cleave, can't stagger, and can't deal heavy damage. It has everything worse, Charged strike can't make it work well, even chainsword works better than it, it has worse cleave than FGS so it can't activate Blazing Spirit well. I understand that there's weapons in a worse state, but the Illisi needs a stagger and cleave buff asap.

[rich spindle]

We need you in charge of game balancing at Fatshark 💯

[kind jay]

i agree buff illisi

announce illisi buff at skulls instead of class

[rich spindle]

Skitarii reveal replaced with 1 hour tascalde power point presentation on blazing spirit

[kind jay]

"Warp Rider and You: A dissertation on Voidstrike Blast Radius"

[spice aurora]

can i get blazng spirit on my glock 19

[kind jay]

you get drakefire pistols and have to play as an angry dwarf psyker

[olive oar]

You wouldn't like that as I would remove all +%damage bonuses and reduce HP accordingly across the game. Also would turn Blazing Spirit into a talent.

[jovial juniper]

"We accidentally gave you the wrong blazing spirit, only works on the Glock bash"

[olive oar]

I use WR and SG on some builds, but on some it's way better to make SG last longer, this is the topic I'm discussing. I'm discussing the universal recomendation on WR.

[rich spindle]

I KNEEL

[dire wharf]

Oi

[jovial juniper]

Gas Station force Greatsword

[kind jay]

lmao i was just poking fun. i actually don't disagree with your theories. im always interested in the why's of a build

[dire wharf]

@steel flame 3% wr puts me at 60% peril with a warp slice

Now I wish I had checked to see what 1% wr does

[fresh panther]

Didn't they nerf it at some point? I remember it being a solid choice into hordes vs the Deimos for single target damage

[olive oar]

As you should, varlet.

[rich spindle]

🧎‍♂️

[rich spindle]

No good into horde, it don’t have cleave

And all the attacks are vertical

[olive oar]

I don't know, it's one of the few swords that into the Large horde test it actually fails, It's quite hard to defeat a Havoc Moebian Horde of 100 with it, many psyker weapons do it in a moderate time.

[kind jay]

bring back original bloodthirsty

but only for illisi

[eager prairie]

What was the original Bloodthirsty?

I've only known the current one for chain weapons.

[kind jay]

special kills give you 100% crit for 5 sec

the current one is only for the following attack

[eager prairie]

Ahh so it was WAY stronger.

Sounds like it'd make Zealots run rampant if they brought that back for all the weapons who can have it.

[kind jay]

yeah it was beastly

[eager prairie]

Tbh I now agree. Bring that back but just for Illisi.

(And give it more cleave)

Blessing changes are in order anyway. Some of those Blessings are just TRASH.

[kind jay]

i was always a slaughterer/ deflector enjoyer

or slaughterer/bloodthirsty

[eager prairie]

Back when I mained Psyker I ran Slaughterer and Executor on the single target force swords.

After I found out each special hit gives you Executor stacks that became a ton of fun to blow up elites.

[rich spindle]

That’s an interesting point I never considered that interaction

Only used exe with Illisi

[eager prairie]

Yeah I just happened upon it one day on complete accident.

I was running Executor with some other blessing in the Meat Grinder. Look at my buff bar and each tick before the burst hit was stacking up Executor.

1 special attack gave me 4 stacks.

[kind jay]

yeah you could do some fun stuff

[rich spindle]

Should stack up and apply to the big hit at the end of the special rihht?

3 stacks before hit?

[eager prairie]

I think so. It's been a while but I'm fairly confident in my answer being "yes" to that

I think Uncanny Strike might work the same so if it does, you can get some juicy Weakspot damage.

[rich spindle]

Ye it do

But there’s like 5 crushers per game now 😭

[eager prairie]

I use the force sword as a sidearm, or if I'm running fire staff.

Helps me kill the armored elites left over.

[kind jay]

5 crushers and 69 pox bombers

[eager prairie]

Bring back Indomitable Incursion and make that 20 Crushers.

[kind jay]

bro that's what I've been saying

the event was conceptually good but it was like, only ragers

[eager prairie]

Ragers and maulers. I know it was a divisive mode but frankly? That shit was fun on Auric.

I remember someone saying something like "It separates the good from the great builds."

It's also how I found out the long-range shotgun on Arbitrator is anti-carapace

[kind jay]

(me standing still lmb'ing mauler trains with ek)

[rich spindle]

Was that the free grenades one

[eager prairie]

No that was Brutes and Blasts, where Ogryns were more common and killing one had a good chance to refund grenade charges on nearby players.

That was the Hive Scum/Veteran mode, basically.

[rich spindle]

Yeah that was a snooze fest

[eager prairie]

Indomitable Incursion was the one where no hordes spawned and nearly every enemy in the map was an elite/specialist.

Traitor Captain missions meant the horde that spawned was seven thousand fucking ragers and/or maulers.

The heavy weapons builds got to shine like crazy in that mode. Boltgun vets, Rumbler ogryns, etc.

[rich spindle]

Sounds like 1 psyker with perilous combustion solos the whole thing xD

[eager prairie]

Oh yeah flame psyker was a good choice

(until the scab ragers spawned)

Flame psyker, Castigator arbitrator, and Krak veteran were the apex predators.

[kind jay]

i found a funny blind spot during indomitable in Warren, in the circle room with the hack/medicae. i could stand by the door you enter from and watch mauler trains go towards the center and just ignore me. maybe i was stanky

[eager prairie]

I can hear that in my head

The mauler chuckles

[rich spindle]

Up above?

[kind jay]

the circular room after the ambush room

[rich spindle]

Hmmm

Ph yeah I know what you’re talking about now

[eager prairie]

Auric Indomitable on Hab Laranax is where men were made

Cramped room. 4 rejects. 1 phage tree. 505947636910 ragers.

[rich spindle]

I’ve never tried standing by the entrance door

I’m gonna see what it does to ai in normal games

[kind jay]

phage tree with indomitable was insane

it doesn't really do much anymore

but i like standing there instead of the center

i always try to keep my back near a wall

another example is the ambush room in dark communion. i just stand right outside the airlock. nothing can spawn behind me and i have barrels for cover. and easy view of the team to support with range

[rich spindle]

Yeah I’ve found holding on edges to be the best play

Then you kite around the rim

[rich spindle]

YES

NO ONE HOLDS THERE

it’s the best spot

[kind jay]

right? it's so good.

[rich spindle]

Far right corner is the worst spot

Everyone goes there 😭 😭

[kind jay]

i never do. I'm chill, everyone can go where they want but I'm staying in my McDonald's playplace

[olive oar]

In the Indomitable event Smite and Voidstrike were insane as well. Veteran I had to pay a tithe to win, but psyker I was just chilling.

[kind jay]

shadow money wizard gang

[olive oar]

What was sad is that with my Psyker Shotgun build I was having a hard time.

[kind jay]

I'm gonna do a build with illisi and double barrel

I apologize in advance

[olive oar]

No, I'm the Zarona Combat Shotgun gang, use that.

[kind jay]

yes but double barrel is funny

like sad clown kinda funny

i also have your Voidstrike build set aside to try

[dire wharf]

Next event will be 100% sniper spawns

[kind jay]

original vent purge?

where you'd get a room of 40 snipers

i loved it. it's so boring now you barely even get a couple

[buoyant maple]

Was that the elite spam event

[kind jay]

yes

[buoyant maple]

That was pretty fun and honestly not that hard

Havoc if it was good

[pure plinth]

oops 40 ragers

[buoyant maple]

Fun times

[kind jay]

i liked it

[rich spindle]

Aw hellll nahhhhhh

[dire wharf]

What's the difference between auric and havoc?

[thorn cedar]

auric u havoc to see me

[olive oar]

Havoc has 40 tiers, when you start in the first tiers there's some improved enemy density and mutators, you take more toughness damage and enemies have less hp than Auric.

[buoyant maple]

Nah it was good

[olive oar]

As you climb up tiers the rules start to change a lot, not only in enemy density, but enemies have far more hp, more bosses appear, and being FAR, but FAR better at evasion starts to count more to your survival.

Even regular shooters become a menace, all melee gives you some corruption damage, if you mistep gunners mow you down in a blink of an eye.

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-spongebob-mr-krabs-campfire-campfire-meme-mr-krabs-meme-campfire-gif-11784818026020390633

[kind jay]

ah yes my favorite game: how fast will the h40 in my auric go down and ragequit

i should start a spreadsheet

[wet monolith]

Man I don't understnad the psyker yet or how he really works...i need me some guide about that class.

[olive oar]

Tascalde sharing the tales of the unphatomable Havoc 40.

[olive oar]

Before the update that added Just a Dream, t'was before the talent tree rework, right? I would say the class was a little hard, but now it's so straightfoward, everything deals more damage. What's your problem, person with a hefty jaw.

[wet monolith]

So far I know that this % thing in the middle of my screen could kill me if it reached 100%

[olive oar]

More or less, it will kill you only, and only, if you use an warp ability while it's at 100%. That's it.

[jovial juniper]

Build peril
Kill
Don't build too much peril

[wet monolith]

The thing is really that I don't use the psyker right

[jovial juniper]

Shrimple

[wet monolith]

Like i see some people 1 to 2 shot the crasher with that brain rupture

while me I need to do like 4 to 5 hits

[olive oar]

Don't worry about min maxing it, person of chiseled jawline.

[jovial juniper]

Do you have empowered psionics?

[olive oar]

This is true, but because of Empowered Psionics, keystone.

[jovial juniper]

Do you have Warp Rider?

[wet monolith]

I'm not sure what is going on here is my combo wrong ? am I using it early ? that's the thing

[kind jay]

whats your load out and talents

[wet monolith]

That's my current tree

[jovial juniper]

Are you using Kinectic Flayer?

You're not using Empowered Psyonics

That's Warp Syphon

That's why your brain burst isn't dealing a bajjillion damage

[olive oar]

That will make you able to cast more Scryer's Gaze, but you will have a slow Brain Rupture, unless when you use your combat ability. And it will be the normal kind

[wet monolith]

Do you have a build where I can use it and use any staff I like ?

tbh I'm just dump at making builds

no matter how long I have been playing I'm just dump at making builds really in most games :V

[rich spindle]

Don’t worry builds matter way less than player skill

[wet monolith]

True...but it's fun to know what I'm doing also when I play 😂

[olive oar]

Have to start somewhere, skill is an aquired lesson, person of remarkable eye brows.

[jovial juniper]

So since BB is a single target skill
Your ranged or your melee will be about multiple targets
So any staff should work, just have to compensate

[rich spindle]

Do you want a playstyle where you spam brain burst a lot mixed in with staff?

[wet monolith]

Yup I use staff to deal with hoards and brain for single targets like crashers / reapers / bosses

that is what I would like to go for

[olive oar]

That base of yours allow you to use whatever staff you want, but your blitz will suffer, If you go for single target staff bring a melee that can deal with horde, if you go with a staff that can deal with horde go with melee for armor.

[wet monolith]

oh my current melee is this one

switched it to MK IV instead now tho.

[olive oar]

Since that won't allow you to relly on Brain Rupture as your main damage dealer, but your average damage output will be very high. Albeit short lived because peril will skyrocket easily.

[jovial juniper]

This is what I'm currently running

My ranged is EK

Hence Warp Splitting for my melee

The gimmick here is that you pop the 2 shields

And cast BB

Because Kinetic Resonance will be up

[wet monolith]

What's the diff between brain burst and brain rupture tho ?

[urban meteor]

BR is just BB stronger

[rich spindle]

people typically juist call it brain burst

[wet monolith]

Ah okay

[urban meteor]

just like Shriek is Psychic Wrath but better

[wet monolith]

I see now
thank you

[wet monolith]

Okay i will check this one out

[olive oar]

Oh, I was wrong about the name, forget what I said.

[wet monolith]

No worries

[urban meteor]

Were you though? Brain burst is the initial, Rupture is the augmented one

[jovial juniper]

If you run Voidblast or Inferno with it you can drop Warp Splitting and dedicated your melee slot for single target too

[wet monolith]

I actually started to like that EK staff

the animation alone is nice

I think i will use it more so i will switch my melee to MK V instead

[olive oar]

Really? Can't really recall.

[jovial juniper]

There's a Shriek version that also synergies with EK and the rate it builds peril

It's less brain bursty than double walls

[rich spindle]

my recommendation for this sword is to find one with 60 in mobility and 80 in everything else, then change deflector for slaughterer. Give it a try, you'll probably like it better

[jovial juniper]

But allows you to keep using your ranged more often

[wet monolith]

You right...if I'm going to use this sword (MK V) version for single target i should keep that 1st target up to 80%

aight i think i had one with 60% mob already

gotta max it now

[rich spindle]

generally you want to keep all the damage stats at 80 for every weapon

because the difference between 60 and 80 mobility is very small

[wet monolith]

I see
aight imma go max it now :V

and i will check those talent tree perks

Damn...I really want to use that one
but deflector really saved me sometimes

[fresh panther]

Illisi has a fully horizontal horde loop that's a heavy light alternating pattern but I haven't used it in ages so I'm not sure which attacks they are

And yes it is ass now, I just remember seeing it everywhere when it was first introduced

[fathom adder]

Illisi was and is solid, the FGS is better at horde clear while also being way better at single target, only downside is worse mobility

[crisp ether]

Illisi be mid af

I like it.

But it's mid.

Even for the thing you'd actually expect it to excel at, it's still just, okay at best.

[buoyant maple]

Nah Illisi is beaten out by at least 3 other weapons for horde clear

[crisp ether]

Arguably

FGS isn't the greatest at horde clear either****

*Except for the Warp slash

[buoyant maple]

FGS is also mid tier horde

[fresh panther]

I can't find a patch note where it was outright nerfed so maybe it was just powercrept to hell

[crisp ether]

It's always been that way.

None of the force swords actually have good cleave or distribution

[fresh panther]

Besides having infinite dodges changed to 5 but that's quite reasonable

[buoyant maple]

FGS has always been mid at horde clear without warp slash

It’s just carried by warp slash and psyker’s bonkers crit/finesse talents

And force sword’s cleave distribution is pretty meh

[fresh panther]

I think at one point it was just the best horde clear option for melee on psyker

[buoyant maple]

Illisi gives u the illusion it’s good at horde clear because it’s all horizontal swings and the sound effects are nice

But it’s a 6.5 cleave H sweep lol

[fresh panther]

So it was the thing to pair with the EK staff really

[buoyant maple]

Activated H sweep is just 10.5 cleave

[crisp ether]

It was because they just didn't have much better to work with

[fathom adder]

Chainsword was probably better for unmixed hordes

[crisp ether]

When they got the heavy sword, technically, that changed

[buoyant maple]

Well no they always had Rashad

[fresh panther]

Chain sword was incredibly bad back then before getting reworked and buffed

[crisp ether]

Oh right they did have Rashad...

But Rashad is

[buoyant maple]

U cannot escape the Rashad

[crisp ether]

It's pretty slow man

[fathom adder]

Depends on how far back we're talking
I remember chainsword being really good (if a bit unsafe) into hordes if you had a high crit chance

[crisp ether]

At least the other classes have means to up the attack speed where it doesn't feel clunky

[buoyant maple]

I actually don’t know what to set my horde clear & mixed horde clear benchmarks to now

[crisp ether]

Wait wtf am I talking about

Psyker has tac axe too

Okay I'm just a fool

Illisi been outclassed on horde clear even before now

[fresh panther]

Yep it was the fastest horde clear by far right after rework iirc

[buoyant maple]

Yea that’s why I said 3

Chainsword was faster
Tac axe was faster
Combat axe was faster

[rich spindle]

Illisi still feels better than taxe to me

[jovial juniper]

That's because it isn't capped

[dire wharf]

I've never tried tac axe

[olive oar]

Horde clear is at least 100 moebian havoc horde in 40 seconds, that's at least for me. Don't need to be only the melee weapon, can't use shrikek on test for obvious reasons.

Bleed is Sangramento. Guess what Politeia's(me) weapon are.

[olive oar]

Carpal tunnel syndrome simulator.
excelent weapon, but harsh on our hands.

[spice aurora]

@olive oar can i use devils claw in havic 40

[dire wharf]

Yeah

[olive oar]

Coupled with charged strike and Wrath, you can deal with any mixed horde and some bosses. But it do require a complimentary weapon.

[junior breach]

is the quickstub decent for gun psyker? I don't see it in any builds so I was wondering

[olive oar]

@rich spindle My greatest fan.

[rich spindle]

🧎‍♂️

[jovial juniper]

Yes it is

[olive oar]

In a non-melee build, devil claw allows one to do this.

[kind jay]

i tried your voidstrike build @olive oar

pretty good tbh

[olive oar]

And even this, remember these are 100 dregs, they have 960 hp each.

[olive oar]

Thanks, I think that particular setup allows one to capitalize on Soulfire, extra crit, extra defense and deliver a good whallop at the same time. Maintaining the peril reduction talents one can shot while losing peril because of the interaction of Battle Meditation. 100% SG uptime.

[fallen aspen]

Can someone link me their favourite melee psyker build please?

[dire wharf]

"Not purposefully. Certainly!"

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00aa358-26ff-4d52-91ba-559682ebd0e9/zazys-blazing-spirit-greatsword-unga-bunga-experience

@fallen aspen

[kind jay]

yeah i noticed i was basically holding max sg forever. lots of fire and kabooms

[urban meteor]

If only more guns did leaning/bracing

I'm so tired of these ugly iron sights and all

[kind jay]

no real notes on it, other than i had a few pretty good runs with it

[olive oar]

And this is my precious, with a shotgun to boot.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1063036-3b23-4c68-9de0-5da6f0f1817a/warp-lightning-battle-mage

[fallen aspen]

Looks interesting! Thank you

[fallen aspen]

Why flechette and not…what’s the infinite cleave blessing, manstopper?

[dire wharf]

This cultist getting domed then rag dolled had me rolling

[olive oar]

Manstopper would be good if not only the mass needed for it to be advantageous was more prevalent, but if the Zarona Special shell was stronger.
Zarona's special is weak, but it has a really good penetration and spread already, so with flechette you'll have directional frag granades at will.

Trust me, playing with this shotgun for 10 months straight now, it's way better to have flechette.

[fallen aspen]

Ah, okay, I’ll have to give that a try

[olive oar]

Even my first Auric solo completion was with that shotgun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpT9PXaV1kk

[olive oar]

Way more enjoyable on 2x speed, long gameplay in general becomes more enjoyable at 2x.

[spice aurora]

nice dclaw video

[olive oar]

Wow, forgot how out of my mind I played this day, my heart was pounding since I thought this was out of my league. I thought once I got some practice that the slow completion time was because I was sloppy, well I was somewhat sloppy but the seed given to me was way too much. 2 Million damage, 3 mil if we count overkill and 2.7k kills.
Remember that the bottom scoreboard is bugged on solo mode.

[rich spindle]

nice

keeping the bots alive is the hardest part of solo

[dire wharf]

@olive oar how many hours do you have

[kind jay]

i want fatshark to silently implement a superbot you can get rarely that just straight up outplays everyone and can't be replaced

[static sonnet]

The 1% chance Ogryn Bot with a rumbler and 500 health

Guaranteed to get you back on your feet if you're down

[kind jay]

yes and if it's a vet bot it trash talks you

[thorn cedar]

john_karktide [BOT]

[kind jay]

he'll use the worst weapons too so his scoreboard ratio will be extra embarrassing for everyone else

[glass badge]

Does Crystaline still not give the refund sometimes?

[steel flame]

oh so close to the event

[steel flame]

ngl i havent used that since i made a suidcide build like 8 months ago

[verbal thistle]

what it does in depth

there is no note on it being bugged

[steel flame]

it really do be one of those "git gud" trap nodes

the node would have been alot more useful before fatshark put so many dam training wheels on peril

its so fuckin annoying to blow up on purpose

[indigo plank]

IIRC EK staff or strokin ur sword like a freak are the best methods but yeah it’s still not as easy to pop as it used to be lol

[potent echo]

Why is "psyker" cntrF'd

[steel flame]

fire sword psyker commits yet another warcrime agains h40

[potent echo]

Is 260k blitz from passive BR alone

[steel flame]

ye

i dont use bb as an active ability in this build

[potent echo]

That's crazy

[steel flame]

i dont think ive ever felt like I've played this badly in a game of darktide before.

so tired the Game kinda hazed out

Then I looked at the end of the screen card and was like wtf

[long saddle]

what build are you running btw when you said fire sword?

[steel flame]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00aa358-26ff-4d52-91ba-559682ebd0e9/zazys-blazing-spirit-greatsword-unga-bunga-experience

[long saddle]

ah right I think I've seen this in the build document, might give it a try since I've run another melee shriek build that I didn't feel like it could keep the peril up enough with assail

[steel flame]

Aim for 30 or below on fgs warp resist

Get 50.2 peril per special activation

[viral quarry]

You guys think we will ever get more staves? Like biomancy or smth

[potent echo]

I thought fire GS was purgatus

[rich spindle]

soulblaze

[potent echo]

[rich spindle]

eyes glaze over 2m dam

[potent echo]

Oh shriek

[potent echo]

I've said yes to this question like for 2 years straight

Why change now

👴

[viral quarry]

I've gotten bored of the 4 we alr have, want smth new, ANYTHING at this point. Ill take a stave that shoots pebbles for like 3 damage

[long saddle]

seeing as they're so stingy with new weapons (or even new marks) I'd rather take more class universal weapons

instead of potentially getting another crowbar or power falchion

[steel flame]

Already run through most of the run of the mill 40k weapons

Still want a single stub pistol as an all class weapon though

[long saddle]

ogryn has the least weapon variety tho so they should get like several new ones imo

ogryn barely has 4 guns

and not 4 staves

[steel flame]

Funny thing is that's all the guns that they use in lore

[long saddle]

nah there's power fists at least

[steel flame]

Das not gun

But ye

[long saddle]

ye idk if I care too much about more ogryn guns rather than melee weapons

[steel flame]

If they didn't have to stick so close to gw guidelines they could give him a heavy bolter

[potent echo]

Need some heavy weapons

new class exclusive

[steel flame]

that's usually an incidental weapon that they might rip from a tripod rather than something they kit with. Too hard for them to maintain

[potent echo]

Screaming

[steel flame]

Lol

If it makes you feel any better at least he has more weapons than vt2 warrior priest

[potent echo]

Hammer with book

Hammer with no book

Two hammers with no books

[long saddle]

just checked mine and I have exactly 30

[dire wharf]

Give ogryns a heavy lascannon

[shut imp]

multi-melta for the bigguns

[wraith sphinx]

wots dis...

[potent echo]

5 Aquilas

Is that not photoshopped though

[wraith sphinx]

how would it be photoshopped

[marble crater]

With... photoshop?

[long saddle]

but ye the event showed after a restart

[icy breach]

Its on now?

[long saddle]

yes

[potent echo]

Wait it's really 5 Aquilas

I really thought it was a shitpost

[long saddle]

you get boosts after you destroy idols as well

[wraith sphinx]

AWESOME I GOT OOB'D

[deft stump]

Fatshark no budget, I see.

[potent echo]

Did you know you can farm supercredits

[olive oar]

When I made that run I guess I had around 1100 hours, now I'm at 1700.

[jovial juniper]

5 aquilas

[quartz barn]

140 more events like this and we can buy a skin

[deft stump]

You mean 60? Wasn't the cheapest thing like 300?

[ashen edge]

I think that one is a curio. Real skin cost 500 - 700 irc

[deft stump]

But technically, that is a premium cosmetic even if not wanted.

And most games make you suffer for even the cheapest paid currency thing.

[quartz barn]

Tbf every cosmetic gets labelled "premium"

But ye i was thinking of 700 for a weaponskin

The 300s are trinkets

[fading galleon]

man i love psyker

[cloud folio]

fuck

[cloud folio]

ho wmany are fkn named hecate bro

i put that as an alias long time ago according to greek myth

[thorn cedar]

i too have played hades 2

[cloud folio]

anyway are you blowing fire

[cloud folio]

played for 10 min and put it back

[thorn cedar]

its pretty fucken good

[cloud folio]

also hecate is from hellboy https://hellboy.fandom.com/wiki/Hecate

[thorn cedar]

100hrs for me

been meaning to get back to it but too many games to play right now

my lobsters, too buttery

my women, too sexually needy

[cloud folio]

what are too many games

[olive oar]

Playing it everyday, till the Heat becomes too unmanageable.

[fading galleon]

haha same

it was the first thing that came to mind when i made my psyker

[cloud folio]

i have caves of qud, bazaar, battle brothers?, deadlock?, mtg arena?, WARFRAME

[thorn cedar]

for me it's having more than four games that i actively play at any given time ,but right now i have ten games that im bouncing between and its kind of a nightmare for my ADHD

i have trouble deciding what to lanch

[fading galleon]

like, ingame?

[cloud folio]

i have trouble deciding what to lanch
I have same problem for the past 3 years, and steam lib is increasing at tremondous rate

[cloud folio]

psyker fire staff?

[fading galleon]

no, force greatsword melee build

you can see on scoreboard i did 0 warpfire dmg

[cloud folio]

i am gonna try that today

[fading galleon]

it's so awesome

[cloud folio]

tried melee force sword one, didnt spark joy

[fading galleon]

yeah the greatswords are much cooler imo

[cloud folio]

build plz?

[fading galleon]

with assail / scrier's gaze/ disrupt destiny

ok one sec

[fading galleon]

curios for good measure

[ashen edge]

Pity the next class will skitarii instead of electro priest. Would be nice for Palpatine cosplay. Even though we have smite already

[jovial juniper]

If it's any consolation

Arc Rifle will be a thing

[cloud folio]

why mk6

we have same build

except i took all assail

and dropped 2 nodes

[fading galleon]

stab h2 is very strong and it has a heavy sweep for horde rotation (l1 l2 l3 h3 repeat)

I think that's why, anyway. somebody told me a long time ago it was the better mark and I just never looked back

[cloud folio]

there is an event

what is h2?

[fading galleon]

heavy 2

[cloud folio]

heavy

[fading galleon]

so the second heavy in the attack chain

on mk8 i think all the heavies are downward slices but the mk6 has a stab attack as the second heavy instead, which rocks

super high damage if you hit enemy weakspot

[fading galleon]

i only use assail to build peril and malefic momentum stacks so not worth for my playstyle

[jovial juniper]

Mk8 stab is also behind a push attack

So you always know where it is

[cosmic cobalt]

warp speed?

[fading galleon]

ye

[cosmic cobalt]

you already have so much zoomies tho

[fading galleon]

never enough

[jovial juniper]

Hank is a speedhead

https://tenor.com/view/they-got-him-ted-ted-show-gif-4342699035732514153

[wraith sphinx]

Hank on that FGS grind?

One of us one of us

[wraith sphinx]

have you perhaps played psyker around that time when mortis trials were freshly added and stacking too many speed buffs via mettle crashed your game

that was like the last time in memory that I encountered a crash in this game lmao

[fading galleon]

I do remember something about mettle causing crashes once

[fading galleon]

one of my favourite weapons in the whole game, I'm not gonna lie

this thing is like crack

[wraith sphinx]

hell yeah

[fading galleon]

hitting that fat full stacked gigabuffed warp slice into a dense elite blob

[cloud folio]

i forgot how much fun FGS is

[fading galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[cloud folio]

what is this event

[wraith sphinx]

it's more or less a repeat of previous skulls event except getting aquilas is a separate global progress thing now

[cloud folio]

wait you getting quilas?

[wraith sphinx]

yes

[cloud folio]

got the game this year

[cloud folio]

so number goes up?

[wraith sphinx]

collect skulls dropped by enemies, destroy skull totems that spawn in event missions, that's more or less it

[cloud folio]

that is what I am doing and number go up?

[wraith sphinx]

yes

[fading galleon]

Yeah its a global counter

So we have to do it as a community

[cloud folio]

ohh

didnt know this at all

if we dont do it?

[fading galleon]

Then I guess we don't get all the rewards

[wraith sphinx]

if you don't do it the fat shark will come and eat you

[thorn cedar]

wait is the event active

nothing got posted

[wraith sphinx]

yes

has been for the past 3 hours

[thorn cedar]

interesting

[wraith sphinx]

announcements always come a bit later

[deft stump]

But is more annoying and less rewarding unless everyone does more than expected.

[cloud folio]

i have shark traps

[cloud folio]

maybe there is a big announcement soon

[steel flame]

Hell ye

[long saddle]

it's a p fun build, tho I need to get better at spamming special more for peril upkeep instead of trying to fire off a satisfying full one

[cloud folio]

which build?

[long saddle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00aa358-26ff-4d52-91ba-559682ebd0e9/zazys-blazing-spirit-greatsword-unga-bunga-experience

[steel flame]

Ikr

But when you get it you actually get more full charge swings than normal

[radiant frigate]

blazing spirit? on MY greatsword?

quoi de la fuck

[steel flame]

With fire weakening everything it lines shit up to get knocked down by the sword and get you fat sword energy

[kind jay]

warp ghost keeps your peril high long enough to fire off a wave or two

it works out one way or another

[jovial juniper]

The freaks have gone mad recently

No scratch that

The freaks have always been mad

[frigid surge]

coming back after a year, is smite still hated? xD

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[dire wharf]

It's on mine now too

[long saddle]

worst part of the event

I thought it was a custom hud thing but no they're in the same box so I can't do anything

[steel flame]

QUALITY

[jovial juniper]

Overhated yes

[dire wharf]

I've had some great smitekers in my groups lately

[kind jay]

D̸̘̅͝á̴̳͍r̸̮̍̐k̴̨̹̉̃ ̶̝̪̀̃R̴̰̋i̴͚̥̎̿te scribing process

[frigid surge]

i was always hated for smiting elites and trash behind them... shrug

and if you stop smitingm the team gets wiped, so i was in the wrong again...

[wraith sphinx]

I started running smite again and have been hard pressed to find anyone who gave a shit about it

[radiant frigate]

but are you holding it down

or are you just using it for its niche purpose

[wraith sphinx]

both

uncharged smite is great vs dogs poxbursters and other disablers and charged smite with gaze can legit prevent a team wipe

it's increasingly hard to take complaints about rmb smite seriously when I so commonly see pubs doing bad positioning and not coordinating to take out bulwark stacks

that being said I only run smite on my voidstrike/rending trauma build because with just about everything else smite just doesn't synergize that well

smite's lack of range and damage would just make it crippling to use with a lot of other loadouts imo

[frigid surge]

honestly, every time i was using smite, i was either hated to using it at all or using it not enough with NO in between... 2 extremes and you just cant please either... has that changed?

[wraith sphinx]

In the last 6 or so months I have been using smite again in pub games on auric/mael... not a single complaint, ever

[thorn cedar]

i use it every like ten games or so

[kind jay]

people are gonna be mad no matter what you do. play what you want

[thorn cedar]

the worst i got was someone said "jacinthe this game wouldve been a lot smoother if you just smited more" which is lol

bring your own then

[jovial juniper]

No

💀

If you don't want to use your blitz you just go BB flayer

If you want to use smite, you gotta use smite

Otherwise you could've just run bb flayer

[frigid surge]

psyker is the only class where i really want to use my blitzes... xD

[frigid surge]

what do you mean with "flayer"?

[jovial juniper]

Brain Burst modifier

Kinetic Flayer

[frigid surge]

cant remember thats a thing, what does it do?

[jovial juniper]

Automatically bb elite or specialist every 15 seconds if you damage it

Doesn't work on bursters

We had some

Happy Accidents

[frigid surge]

is it like a dot, or something that can trigger from all dmg you do?

[jovial juniper]

It can trigger from every damage you do

[frigid surge]

will it cause peril?

[kind jay]

no

[jovial juniper]

12s
Not 15

[rigid sky]

Arbitrator grenades are fun as fuck, just saying

[thorn cedar]

wish they'd delete KF/rework BB already

[jovial juniper]

Ain't happening dawg

[rigid sky]

Why lmao

[thorn cedar]

i mean it really probably wont

but i still cant fucking stand it from a game design perspective lmao

i think its a horrific failure

[frigid surge]

what you mean?

[frigid surge]

doesnt the vet also have nades?

[rigid sky]

More backloased

Loaded

So less satisfying imo

[thorn cedar]

under no circumstance should your best choice for an active ability in one of the best designed combat games be "the one where you dont use it at all"

[rigid sky]

Arby grenades are contacts which are fun

[rigid sky]

I use it actively plenty

[steel flame]

But I do use it. I use it every 12s to snipe people with warp slice

[thorn cedar]

KF is basically FatShark admitting that they don't know how to design Brainburst to work in a way that satisfies the player base so they just tacked on a node that makes it automatic and that just fucking sucks from all standpoints.

[steel flame]

They were too scared to let it one shot crushers

[kind jay]

give us the mortis version that hits 10 things

[thorn cedar]

Do literally anything else

Including this

[steel flame]

And that Cascaded into flayer existing cause they refuse to make it fast without strings or to actually do good damage as a solo ability

[thorn cedar]

Anything but "It'll just do it automatically and you never have to think about it" on the class that has the most interesting and dynamic useable blitzes

You may as well have a button on Ogryn frag bomb where one drops from the sky for free whenever two enemy ogryns appear

[frigid surge]

btw... i never really understood how to use assail...

[thorn cedar]

Weave it inbetween attacks

[steel flame]

Still a hold over from when it was psykers entire identity and you couldn't function without bb giving you warp charges

[thorn cedar]

Right click to hit something specific far away

[frigid surge]

so assail is more a filler/spam once and then switch?

[rigid sky]

I'd like BB to give a debuff to targets it doesn't kill

[rigid sky]

Can also spam it

It is versatile

[kind jay]

I've always said that a good start would be to invert bb so it's always instant cast but has a short cd. then have the nodes do other things (buff, debuff, etc)

[frigid surge]

personnaly i think its neither burst dmg like BB, nor CC like smite..

[thorn cedar]

Even this, KF in reverse -- where it charges up automatically but you still have to, you know, actually cast it.

I don't know man, I love Psyker but it's such a fucking meme class lmao

[jovial juniper]

Interesting idea but also

[kind jay]

yeah bb is basically a meme and if you build directly for it you give up everything else basically, for not much in return

[dire wharf]

Yes Inquisitor, this is the heretic

[kind jay]

i mean if you really want bb to see more usage, give it friendly fire

[jovial juniper]

Just give it a kill flag on everything not boss

There's no real reason as to why Scab Ragers survive it without EP

[thorn cedar]

All true and real things.

[boreal jetty]

So got some questions before I upgrade further --

[rigid sky]

I'd like it to reliably stagger on the first cast, then leave either a lingering vulnerability or a lingering damage down

[boreal jetty]

Managed to find a blast & lightning staff -- am I fine to upgrade the other stats to 80?

As for the sword -- should I leave it at that low Warp, or should I just upgrade the Mobility stat to 80?

[rigid sky]

Depends on what they say

[boreal jetty]

Yeah, just wondering before I do anything further.

[rigid sky]

I mean it depends on the stats

You didn't send any pictures as far as I can see

Might be my internet tbh lmao

[boreal jetty]

Huh? It didn't show?

[rigid sky]

Ooh you posted just above and I am stupid

Checking now lol

The staves look great, upgrade them

[boreal jetty]

What about the sword?

[rigid sky]

Tbh not sure but mobility is above the 51 breakpoint

[long saddle]

12 is overkill so I'd still get mobility up more

[olive oar]

It is and it's also one of my favorite builds. Love playing with full smyker. And recently my love increased because I've found a way to go melee with it.

[long saddle]

but once you're near 80 mob then you can stop

[boreal jetty]

I figured max 80 mobility may not be much of a difference compared to the higher Warp or, what, 28-30?

[long saddle]

30 warp res is nice since you get 50% peril from a special

[rigid sky]

The key thing with mobility is being at least at 51

You get the extra dodge at that point

[frigid surge]

melee smyker?

[long saddle]

I'd take all mobility I could tbh with fgs tho

[rigid sky]

It's the 1h

[long saddle]

I wouldn't bother too much with super low warp res on staves tho

since they need peril to do stuff

[boreal jetty]

Except for the Inferno one, I'm told?

[olive oar]

Charged strike with a weapon with good cleave, FGS, Devil claw or even the chainsword will allow you to be effective as a melee combatant. Use wrath as one of the blessings

[long saddle]

60 is fine

[boreal jetty]

Where should I cap the Warp resist for that particular sword?