psyker-class

[verbal thistle]

so sad

: (

https://tenor.com/view/hippo-dance-rat-dance-naked-rat-dance-naked-rat-rat-jam-gif-895067322878568988

[spice aurora]

i used to have pet rats, goated pets, and i workd with 150+ species and rats are my numbr 1 goat

[verbal thistle]

rats are very good pets

just sad they only live a few years

average of 5 iirc

look at this thang

[knotty saddle]

cute

[spice aurora]

is mine from like 12 yrs ago

xd

[verbal thistle]

cute little peepers

boba eyes

[urban meteor]

You fell for it

Skaven psyop

It's like the CIA

first they show you a cutie cutie little thing

then bam

[spice aurora]

i want more skaven

[white sky]

Average of 2-3 years tbh

It's fucked up

[olive oar]

Genestealers, or more like gene inserters as you get leptospirosis and now hantavirus is spreading.

[spice aurora]

@knotty saddle u like our giga meta team comp?

[knotty saddle]

uhhhh

I mean I was technically running meta

lol

but idk any other classes meta

:3

[spice aurora]

https://youtu.be/Sg4LI1xLG3c?si=ulyFlZUbPXB0Z-zX

some goofy psyker melee havoc 40 gaempley, now that im unbanned on reddit i can save clips and post again to bait troll comments

[verbal thistle]

clearly using the wrong weapons

[verbal thistle]

splat

[rich spindle]

the audio bugs are making me seethe

[verbal thistle]

bro

[rich spindle]

we insta died to no audio burster after he clutched that

[verbal thistle]

I've stopped playing

its been like 2 weeks

[rich spindle]

damn

[hallow vector]

all the bugs do

[rich spindle]

no audio moebian backshots

got us a lot too

[spice aurora]

we kill twins, all the bosses, we basically take 0 dmg in most of the run

then the audio turns off xd

like 3 runs in a row
game plz

[frail oar]

I thought i was losing it

[verbal thistle]

you are

wake up

wake up

wake up

wake up

[hallow vector]

burst npcs in some random fuckass corner that obliterate your entire toughness and healthbar in 2 seconds

[frail oar]

So many silent bursters lately

[hallow vector]

not to mention unpushable ones

[rich spindle]

bruh got like 3 in that clip

[spice aurora]

when i grow up i wanna be an unpushable burster

[rich spindle]

sweden must answer for their crimes

[jovial juniper]

Bro said "when I grow up"
The trauma psyker is coming

https://tenor.com/view/the-fog-is-coming-brutality-gif-26972933

[knotty saddle]

how are u so good at melee psyker

teach me ur ways O.O

[eager token]

melee psyker is the one true psyker

but also just play zealot/hivescum

[knotty saddle]

no I want to be a jedi

[rich spindle]

He’s died a billion times and learned from it

Already encountered everything that happened in that clip before so he can act immediately without thinking

[knotty saddle]

I see

then I need to die about 999 million more times

and I will unlock a new power level

[rich spindle]

Yes

[knotty saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/colon-three-kitty-crumb-cuptoat-heavy-gif-15723533476185307497

[rich spindle]

The more you lose with bad teams the better you get

[cosmic cobalt]

It called trauma

[fresh reef]

what do yall think of the vigilant autoguns?

[cosmic cobalt]

only good on vet because you don't get suppressed to shit

[verbal thistle]

A good quick swap weapon with decent finesse scaling

good for a 50/50 ranged/melee playstyle

[fresh reef]

nice

[verbal thistle]

3 burst best for that

[fresh reef]

what're the best in slot blessings for it?

[verbal thistle]

in a game rn

here

[fresh reef]

bless

thanks

[eager token]

do malice expeditions still give same rewards as higher diff

[hallow vector]

expedition loot dont scale with diff

its static

which is part of why ppl dont like it

[old bolt]

[deft stump]

It's like playing train but 30-40 mins.

[wraith sphinx]

Yup it's still dogshit

[plucky flax]

Expeditions enjoyer

[limpid lily]

first try Force Great Sword + Recon Lasgun Psyker w/ 2x flat shield in H40. Honestly could be my favorite build for Psyker atm

[limpid lily]

honestly curious, do ppl use surge staff to mostly spam 2x primary fire, or a mix of zappy zap too?

the 2x primary fire of surge staff is peak af, but I'm still wondering about the zaps.

[kind jay]

most people spam m1 and just use m2 for stuns

i do both

i like stacking all the buffs so i try to keep channeled force up

[wraith sphinx]

I run a rmb build with flurry and nexus blessings. I use m1 attacks for faraway soft targets

[knotty saddle]

unlucky

[dire wharf]

Kinetic bonk

[kind jay]

its so unnecessary that i must do it

[dire wharf]

What a close finish! Less than 6 seconds left on the clock. Train was so close to the station I could smell the streaks on Dukanes underwear

[subtle igloo]

MadMax Here and once again ggs

lightning go zaaap

[dire wharf]

I thought we were gonna wipe

[subtle igloo]

same

[dire wharf]

Good shit

[subtle igloo]

I saw seconds left on the clock and I thought it couldnt be a coincidence

also here's the stats for you

[dire wharf]

This mod alone makes me want to dump the xbox for a pc

[plucky flax]

Cheat mod

[subtle igloo]

Scoreboard?

[plucky flax]

Yep. All mods are cheat tbf

Outside of dev's intention

[kind jay]

technically correct

the best kind of correct

[plucky flax]

Based truther

[dire wharf]

Lame

[plucky flax]

Pls no flame

[weary hatch]

So whats a good build after the balance patch happened?

[subtle igloo]

MUST POINT

[kind jay]

that mod ruins my experience because pointing is rude

though i guess being rude is normal in the imperium

i retract my statement that mod is totally ok

[white valley]

Pointing at people is rude, pointing at things is not

[subtle igloo]

excuse me but YOU should point at both to be fair :)

[white valley]

Huh

[wraith sphinx]

Pointing is only rude if you point at someone you don't want killed

This is not a problem in darktide

[kind jay]

that's true. maybe we need a mod to flip the bird

[rigid sky]

same as it ever was afaik

all that really changed for psyker is you can't do funky things with uncanny soulblaze now, but honestly that was a thing that a minority of psykers ever used

[sick compass]

soulblaze getting buffed anyway:

[jovial juniper]

Yeah it was very weak

Like

third best dot in the game, base

https://tenor.com/view/giggle-chuckle-hahaha-holding-laughter-gif-15462551

[storm temple]

yes, the psyker is the weakest operative
totally out of meta
inferno staff is dump tier

[white valley]

Technically you're kinda right

Soulblaze is weaker than burn and toxin...technically

[sick compass]

toxin is a crime

those numbers on aoe stim pistol

[white valley]

Afaik burn has higher numbers than soulblaze generally but the thing is psyker has a huge number of talents that spread soulblaze and interact with it

no one can do that with burn

[sick compass]

what even does burn aside from flamethrower and infernus

[rich spindle]

Ogryn

[rigid sky]

And Burn comes from a limited ammo heavy ranged weapon that has to be reloaded, typically

If it wasn't really good it'd be shit

[jovial juniper]

Some ogryn skills

That's it

And tbh

If burn was bad

It would be a crime

This is literally the burn in holy fire universe

[white valley]

Yeah burn only comes from flamer, Ogryn's PBB and Fire Away (capped to 8 stacks), infernus and immolation grenade

Honestly

zealot's scourge should do burn

[storm temple]

chorus inflicting burn would be sick

[rich spindle]

No more aoe dots pls 😭

[jovial juniper]

Good enough
Welcome back Warrior Priest

[white valley]

Chorus is strong enough as is, it should not deal damage

[storm temple]

I'd be surprised if we didn't get phosphex bullets inflicting burn next release tbh

[white valley]

But honestly it is strange that zealot has 0 talents that interact with burn

[storm temple]

ikr

[jovial juniper]

I've been suggesting making zealot iconic an increase of 33% in fire damage

[storm temple]

blazing piety inflicting burn would also make sense it's "blazing"

[white valley]

Until death and holy revenant should be iconics before that imo

mandatory talents anyway

[rigid sky]

Until Death already is mandatory

it's a chokepoint on the whole tree

but yeah imo holy revenant should be baked in too

[white valley]

it's basically 2 talent points for a defining class feature

[olive oar]

Depends on the build and purpuse of the staff, main damage dealer you will spam primary.
If your build is melee or Smite you will mostly use secondary when needed.
I think of it as a similar role as a sniper rifle.

[olive oar]

Accatran Combat Shotgun, 4 stacks in a small area in each special shot. Useable, but low ammo. And it's primary shot base power is high as well, though not a great crit/ws modifier.

[radiant frigate]

bleed and burn on crit yes please

i think rogue trader has a feat like that for the priest background (burn on crit)

[fathom adder]

Anoint In Blood

[white valley]

Hah, technically yes

[dire wharf]

So when I first started playing zealot I thought chorus DID do damage. Like I would run up to a large group, pull out chorus, and they'd all melt. Didn't realize it was my teammates doing that part

[plucky flax]

You sing a choir song and they all die.

[rigid sky]

tbh people massively underrate team signalling as a thing, as far as I'm concerned Chorus is a damage cooldown if you have teammates up and near you

I still say that the Ping is the strongest ability any individual character has apart from Dodge.

[urban meteor]

My game crashed with this great sight

[steel flame]

@wind spruce i finally bothered booting up havoc, got this seasons 40 tag in the first game of the day

fire greatsword go brrrrrr

[steel flame]

still cant be bothered to grind up to 40 assignment level tho

[spice aurora]

@verbal thistle @rich spindle

Psyker macros for heavy attacking or wut idk

[rich spindle]

What’s the context

[spice aurora]

I uploaded that clip from the fail duo

xd

Fgs psyker is such low apm idk what the macro would be

[rich spindle]

You can macro l1 I think

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

[rich spindle]

He’s prob talking about Dorfan holding w through missions with Deimos macro

[verbal thistle]

Don't think it's worthwhile for cara/unyielding

[dusk timber]

Psyker micros

[spiral fiber]

Whats your current favorite melee psyker build

[jovial juniper]

Does hands only count?

[steel flame]

Why tho

It's the easiest combo in the game

[spice aurora]

we saw it once actually it was so funny, i think it barely killed a horde faster than just regular combo

looks so goofy

[rich spindle]

Qq cancel is faster slightly

Actually a lot faster

[urban meteor]

what's even the point on using macros on fgs

it's slow enough that you can just be the macro

[plucky flax]

Not sure about heavy macro on fgs but you can do swap cancel attack to help horde clear faster.

Swap to fgs - 2x light repeat

[spice aurora]

this one guy did l1 repeating macro it looked so funny

[plucky flax]

He's just pro

[kind jay]

wasn't there a vid of an l1 qq macro (forgot which weapon) but it looked like a literal blender

and the surge quell cancel macro was also hilarious

[rotund prairie]

New player here, anyone got any advice on playing psyker? Already done some research and progressed some but want some advice related more to movement, positioning and game sense

I already understand the most basic stuff ( toughness, melee bare bones basics, some of the build ideas)

[kind jay]

i would say learn peril management. being at high peril and not blowing up is one of the most important mechanics

[marble crater]

Stay behind your team, let them deal with the melee elites

[rigid sky]

Fundamentals are essential. If you don't dodge, block and keep yourself safe with aggressive options you die

Your melee needs to be able to deal with Crushers

And elites/bosses generally

Gun psyker is very good and strong too, you don't have to go staff. Staves are more of the classic Psyker experience though and they are great.

[long wharf]

so, everybody excited for admech class?

[jovial juniper]

Sure

[rotund prairie]

Is best tactic to sorta move around the outside of the horde and if you get surrounded dodge backwards to funnel them a bit into the previous area

That’s kinda what I’ve gathered from some videos

And I’ve mostly been using my staff until the horde reaches me then flame greatsword or whatever it’s called

[rigid sky]

Generally good

[rich spindle]

general tip is you can prob be more aggro than you think

all the way up thru auric you can exclusively hold W

[marble crater]

Console discrimination

[rotund prairie]

So should I generally stick just behind the tanker people (like arbites) or what?

Idk how important proper tanking roles are

[marble crater]

Psyker has great survivability, but it's not great at tanking hits.
There is no reason why you should engage melee elites in melee, unless that's literally your build or you have no other option.
Stay behind your zealot/arby/ogryn and use your staff to kill the enemies.

Still need to learn how to survive in melee with dodging, pushing and blocking though and there are also melee psyker builds.
There are a bunch of builds in the pins, including at least one for leveling

[crisp ether]

Ahem.

Psyker can actually survive H40 crusher overheads lol

Psyker is as tanky as you desire them to be.

Because of all the bonkers DR it can amass with certain talents and well, Scrier's.

Happened to me the other night.

[marble crater]

It's a new player, so I figured keeping it more general is better for now

[crisp ether]

True. Generally if you're going the typical staff psyker, it's not gonna be tanky. But psyker can be tanky if you set them up to be.

[rich spindle]

there is no real tanking or frontline in this game

[crisp ether]

Erm actually, that's what tauntgryn is for

[rich spindle]

I forgot

[kind jay]

what about the guy in no mans land? sir reginald mcdonald in his lemon rust tank?

[rich spindle]

you can be isolated holding aggro on tons of stuff as staff psyker

dont hide behind your team

[crisp ether]

Jokes aside. The number one mistake people make with this game when they start is believing there's a "dedicated role" for the classes

[thorn cedar]

you put some respect on ragamuffin draco's name

[kind jay]

he didn't deliver my happy meal so i gave him 1 star

[crisp ether]

He was too busy hitting something with his sword

[rotund prairie]

I’ve been using the flame greatsword to handle hordes when they get to me and using void blast staff to handle them before they get to me

Definitely getting into melee a decent amount

Idk if I should do melee on the bosses or staff tho

Been mostly just balling with the sword but maybe should use the staff and then when they get too close the sword

[rich spindle]

the void blast staff is pretty low boss damage, your melee is usually gonna have higher dps

[kind jay]

you can do both. the greatsword does massive damage to bosses

[crisp ether]

None of the staves are really great at boss damage

[kind jay]

voidblast less so but its safer if you can't get in range

[rotund prairie]

Trying to get the inferno staff, but idk if that is much better

[rotund prairie]

I’m just gonna ball with the sword then

Ball out as they say in the imperium

[crisp ether]

I mean

sigh

It is the best staff in the game

And arguably one of the best "ranged" weapons in the entire game.

[rich spindle]

it might not seem that crazy as youre climbing through lower difficulties

[kind jay]

ek does very respectable boss damage

[rich spindle]

the inferno staff boss damage isnt that great

[crisp ether]

Yeah surge surge staff pulls weight

Not like, bonkers but it works better than the other staves.

[rotund prairie]

So the sword should be the main thing for bosses

[rich spindle]

yeah

[kind jay]

but you gotta build for it so your point still stands

[rich spindle]

pretty much no staff does good boss damage

[rotund prairie]

That brain rapture ability that applies it to your weapon attacks against big bosses and specialists is really helpful imo so far

[rich spindle]

yeah it is

good node to have

[crisp ether]

In general, psyker is a little lacking in bossing unless you really build into melee/gunker

[rotund prairie]

Where are the builds linked here in this server

If there are

[rich spindle]

theres some in the pins

[rotund prairie]

I’m following a build that’s mostly inferno staff and then the sword for bosses and close hordes rn but

Wanna check some more

Can yall tell me what talents are required to make the sword good for bosses and whatnot

[crisp ether]

Force greatsword?

[rich spindle]

for the big sword the only must take is the attack speed

[buoyant maple]

roughly same tier as arb, usually

[crisp ether]

Yeah. Not great. Not terrible.

[rich spindle]

then after that the keystone on the bottom right, disrupt destiny will boost it even further

[crisp ether]

Unless you run Scrier's FGS

Then you suddenly become one of the best at bosses lmao

[rotund prairie]

Do you remember the name of it

[rotund prairie]

Noted

[crisp ether]

Or any high finesse melee really

Knife boss damage goes bonkers.

[rich spindle]

lightning speed, in the middle

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0a667cd-4d49-4f68-8cf8-2f1ee57eab29/melee-with-walls-or-scriers-havoc-40-focus

heres a sword focused build I think youd like

feel free to change whatever you want around and experiment with the points

[buoyant maple]

doesn't have to be FGS
SG + DD is just a lot of extra dmg

[crisp ether]

I did say any high finesse melee

Which is a good chunk of psyker's roster

[rich spindle]

this one is pretty important too if you want to melee a lot

[rotund prairie]

Are there any builds that use alot of soul blade

*blaze

[rigid sky]

Inferno and one of the Voidblast staff builds do it via weapon

Otherwise most builds take Perilous Combustion and you can also take the Creeping Flames Venting Shriek on anything

Voidblast can do Warp Nexus+Blazing Spirit for some spicy booms

You can put blazing spirit on other things too, but you shouldn't because it is bad on them.

[rich spindle]

You can freestyle a soulblaze build with whatever you want if you have venting shriek, perilous combustion, and a way to get a lot of peril fast

[rotund prairie]

I think I’m gonna try this build

[rigid sky]

Double down by doing that with an Inferno staff even

Seems like it would be redundant but it isn't

[rich spindle]

please do not say that...😔

[rotund prairie]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0f2b9ef-b175-48f2-a040-94dca8d8c469/psyker-build-2026

This is what I was building towards but this build doesn’t seem as well thought out as the one you sent @rich spindle

[rich spindle]

that build is honestly fine for auric and below

builds matter way less than player skill in this game

[rotund prairie]

I see

Is the build you sent good at handling hordes, bc I see that it has very good single target

[rich spindle]

yeah, the force great sword is really good at the trash hordes

[rotund prairie]

I’m looking for a build viable for the eventual endgame

[rich spindle]

if you build up 1 charge bar, the slice will instakill every trash enemy

[rotund prairie]

:()

Aura

Yeah I’m sold I’ll try it, seems cool

[rich spindle]

the most important thing for playing endgame is having good skills

so just play with whats fun to you and experiment with stuff if you have that as a goal

[rotund prairie]

Alrighty

Is that ek staff just for specials or do you use it on hordes before you close the gap and use the sword

[rich spindle]

the ek staff is mostly for specials and ranged guys

you want to just shoot left mouse clicks for them unless you want to stun them, then go right mouse

you can shoot the staff at the horde if you want but it wont do much

and you want to feed your sword as many trash kills as you can to build up more charge meter

[rotund prairie]

Makes sense

Thanks my man

Might try doing kinetic slayer with brain rupture instead of assail tho

Maybe

Unless you recommend otherwise, I just fill like it’d help with dropping some of the specials ez

[rich spindle]

yeah feel free to try it

I personally dont think it helps much with this build

cus u kill them so fast anyway

[rotund prairie]

I’m gonna try it and if I feel that it’s redundant then I’ll switch

[rich spindle]

its not bad I'd just rather spend the point elsewhere

[rotund prairie]

Where is more less redundant

[rich spindle]

I really like the talent quietude at the top of the tree

it helps when you get caught alone with no enemies to regen toughness from

[rotund prairie]

That is nutty

Hmmm

Could do both but that’s a lot

[rich spindle]

yeah youll have to sacrifice from somehwere

a common place to sacrifice from is the last node of disrupt destiny

if you do that you should switch from perfectionism to lingering influence

[rotund prairie]

Got it. And wall would be better than scriers?

I would like bubble but I’d have to rid myself of another point for that lol

[rich spindle]

theyre roughly equal, depends on how well you place walls

scriers is really really strong

you need some knowledge of where specials spawn from to make walls about even

[rotund prairie]

What’s better for a new player

So scriers probably lol

[rich spindle]

ye

but walls are the big d gamer pick

[rotund prairie]

I will try it eventually

[rich spindle]

one thing to be careful of w that build is spamming the staff

because you have just a dream which can spike you to 97% peril

so if youre mindlessly spamming its easy to blow up

[rotund prairie]

I’m pretty terrible with that already

[fathom adder]

Don't know if it's still true but from what I heard, Assail is a better weapon than the low-level gear you get while leveling

[rotund prairie]

I was going to ask about assail, like what it does

[fathom adder]

Selecting talents is free and the psykanium is a decent target range

[rich spindle]

homing headshot missiles that are good at unarmored guys

you dont wanna use it with this build

he just went thru it for pathing

[rotund prairie]

I’m not at home.

[rich spindle]

assail is good if your weapon cant cleave a lot of guys, or if you want to proc maelific momentum

but the big sword already does that

[rotund prairie]

Ight

[rigid sky]

Also good for saving ammo on ranged if you take a gun

[wind spruce]

Jesus christ man calm down

[steel flame]

ye baby

got 4 40 wins today

god is it fun now that i can actually hit things without bouncing of walls of crushers

on a good mission ive been on track for at least 2bil every time

[kind jay]

is that with the blazing spirit build you linked earlier?

[steel flame]

ye

[kind jay]

I've been trying it out (in auric cause I'm trash). it's a fun build i like it

[steel flame]

its really fun nonstop redlining peril

really gets you in character with all the voices

[kind jay]

gets the blood flowing

[steel flame]

its also very tanky in a brawl,

unless you get cc'd or overheaded you can do whatever you want long as you stay engaged with stuff to hit

[kind jay]

i noticed that

shrug off a lot of shit

[steel flame]

ive legit gone through a fight expecting to be at like half health and looked down to a full health bar

[kind jay]

I'm less confident with melee so I've been trying to go full melee instead of just ek lmb'ing everything to death

but the fire build is great

[steel flame]

yeah its a full melee build but you have the full utility to pivot to a poke or ranged build

[rotund prairie]

Can someone send me a link to this

@steel flame plz sigma

[steel flame]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00aa358-26ff-4d52-91ba-559682ebd0e9/zazys-blazing-spirit-greatsword-unga-bunga-experience

[kind jay]

yep that one

[steel flame]

cant garentee youll get picked in havoc lobbies cause people get freaked out when they see no capstone but it works in havoc now

[kind jay]

i haven't done havoc so i think I'm safe there lmao

I've tried lots of builds without capstone i don't think there's anything really wrong with it

[rotund prairie]

Thx, just trying to acquire build ideas

[steel flame]

i went into making the build with the idea of making a full melee build that does more ranged/fire damage than it does melee damage

[kind jay]

yeah your sb damage is super high there

i don't usually get numbers in that ratio. could it be havoc density coming into play?

[steel flame]

does similar numbers in auric

[kind jay]

oh huh

[steel flame]

did this to a team the other day

[kind jay]

the same as the other 3 combined

[steel flame]

but yeah the more elites spawns there are the harder the build accelerates

most fun thing with it is sniping elites with a sword slash to trigger a bb and set everything around them on fire

and then wild fire keeps the fire spreading till bb comes back and pops another elite

and then it snowballs

through a horde on the other side of the room you arent attacking

[thorn cedar]

they really gotta rework bb

[steel flame]

i mean they decided that dots should be allowed to trigger it now XP

its their fault

[kind jay]

i wanted to ask why shred over precog? preference?

[wind spruce]

Precog doesnt help proc blazing spirit

[kind jay]

wait am i thinking of the wrong thing

i am

[steel flame]

shred has a grace period now so l1 block cancel combo no longer drops stacks

just more consistant

[kind jay]

disregard I'm dumb

[steel flame]

doesnt require outside trigger, i can just hit stuff

you are thinking of riposte

crit chance on dodge

[kind jay]

oh yeah that's it

fair enough

appreciate the insight. ima git gud

[dire wharf]

That's my strategy

[kind jay]

i say it but then i get stupid ideas like staff bonking dogs or doing a run using nothing but shriek

[long wharf]

Gunship fan?

[dire wharf]

Yeah, killer music video too

[long wharf]

I only recently discovered them

[dire wharf]

Username not related to that though, more about the literary/media genre

[long wharf]

ah

[dire wharf]

They have so many bangers

As far as music videos go they're up there with rammstein

[olive oar]

Should have the blitz breakdown, it's likely to deal more than 300k in those scenarios and it's not separeted in the scoreboard.

[steel flame]

where you get that from?

never seen scoreboard mod with that kinda breakdown

[buoyant maple]

Power_DI does it I think

[steel flame]

no

power_di is too dam resource hungry

[olive oar]

The ovenproof plugin do have that, but you just have to enable it in the mod options.

[steel flame]

ill look

[olive oar]

Here, it's in portuguese but it's a blitz damage. Charged strikes also get tracked in here. And there was another type of damage that was being tracked in companion damage, but I just can't remember what was, I thought that to be so strange.

FGS special attack is counted in ranged damage by the mod.

Remembered, the electric dot from the shock maul gets added as companion damage by this mod. Also, for the people who likes to do testing, specially with Datatide, the Scoreboard does not track damage from one hit kills to the head.

The one hit kill damage only does not get counted in solo mode. In normal gameplay it works normally. I guess.

[steel flame]

i might go in and turn it on, i mostly cared about seperating dot damage from ranged

dont care terribly much about brain burst damage numbers, its alot and it fires non stop, but its more of a tool for me than a damage number i care about

be nice for smite or rocks tho

when i bother to make another build with those ill probs turn it on, its croweded as is rn

[dire wharf]

Is there a mod that tracks riposte?

[kind jay]

does uptime not track it?

not at my pc to check

[white sky]

Uptime should track it

[olive oar]

Uptime does, but I think it's broken, at least it crashed my game all the time, so I could not use it.

[dire wharf]

👍

[olive oar]

I'm the Smite guy, most my hours with the psyker has been around using Smite, and the most underestimated talent, Charged Strike, this is a monster of a talent.

[steel flame]

I'm always on the lookout for giant numbers in weird ass builds and funny interactions I can spiral an entire build around

did they ever fix the bug with charged strikes that only lets you reapply the condition after it has fully ended?

[olive oar]

Nope, I reported that on fatshark forums as well.

[steel flame]

sigh

makes up time a pain

[dire wharf]

@steel flame why do you use crit chance and flak on your blaze forge greatsword? I'm just curious

[fallen aspen]

Got a penance question
For Malleus Monstronum, do I need to get the killing blow for it to count? Or can anyone kill the monstrosity after I’ve done at least 50% of its health?

[olive oar]

You don't have to get the kill.

[fallen aspen]

Thank you

[steel flame]

flak is one of the most numerous damage types with a good soulblaze damage modifier that has actual health pools so it is a very nice boost to over all soulblaze damage

[olive oar]

Your profile picture prompted me to say this, get the penance with this build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0a8983a-a075-4a9e-8204-04c2f489a1c2/psyker-veteran-mark-ii-havoc-40-auric-solo

[steel flame]

@dire wharf i heavily lean on empathic evasion as well as blazing spirit and since i dont use scriers (because why would i cap my soulblaze at just 12 + perilous) i need every ounce of crit chance for permanent empathic uptime and better soulblaze spread in hordes while shout is on cooldown

soulblaze damage scales exponentially with stacks so starting off spreading blazing spirit stacks into the horde before shouting leads to faster snowballing

[olive oar]

Zazy, you seem to be a nice guy and one interested in the game, could you help me prove a point. I have a build that I think would be really good with the Voidstrike staff but can't find nobody serious to help testing or to give any type of valuable tip.

[steel flame]

shoot

love to hear it

[olive oar]

I'm tired to repeat this to explain why I use soulblaze on FGS.

[crisp ether]

FGS with no Lightning Speed. Euughh...

[fallen aspen]

I’ll give it a go with that build, thank you

[olive oar]

This build, I think it solves the most critical fault of the Voidstrike and improves it at every point.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a16d8e16-c437-480a-a82b-081dcce4cb53/hellblaze-slinger

[steel flame]

also the reason why wildfire is good

oooo havent looked yet, soulblaze bowling ball?

[olive oar]

Should have a 1000 point emote.

[steel flame]

i loved running that before they got rid of quell canceling

[crisp ether]

Soulblaze bowling ball

[steel flame]

aight, ima looky

[olive oar]

Yes, soulblaze ball. It is limited on how you can rearrange points, because of this particular setup as each point is made to cover for a problem. It kills 90% of things faster than anything else you could do. But its damage to bosses is mid, I don't know if this can be solved. Thanks.

[steel flame]

if you can find a point, you might see how peril cleave does for ya

still looking

[crisp ether]

Don't put Blazing Spirit on the sword

[olive oar]

Yeah, you don't need to use In Fire Reborn, that is the most obvious point one can change. I change it Warp Speed as SG is active 100% of the time.

[crisp ether]

If you need a means for boss damage

[steel flame]

hmmmmmmmm

[crisp ether]

It's gonna be your FGS

And that talent doesn't lend well for bossing

[olive oar]

12 stacks deals 250 damage per 1.5 seconds on bosses, it deals my most damage on bosses.

[steel flame]

ive always bounced back and forth between surge for extra fire stacks when it does crit and warp nexus for more crit more often, never done the math on which one generates peril faster,

[olive oar]

The staff deals 5100 damage on critical hits. The Staff is better for bosses.

[olive oar]

Here I want the least peril as possible, because of the bonuses from SG. They grantee the extra damage and crit chance.

[crisp ether]

It is because the setup itself is bottlenecking your burst damage.

[rich spindle]

dont question the king

you need blazing spirit for boss damage

[crisp ether]

You have a lot of means of soulblaze already. BS on the sword is just redundant.

[steel flame]

i say you commit to the fireball staff rather than trying also spread fire with melee, if you go with diemos/obscurus for melee to kill crushers you can change your damage mod to more fire friendly targets to boost soulblaze rather than cara,

[crisp ether]

You don't need BS on both weapons.

[olive oar]

It may be, that's true, I may even change the melee weapon.

[crisp ether]

You're better off running a blessing on FGS that will just increase your melee damage in general

[steel flame]

id actually go with a 1h sword

better swap speed and mobility in a pinch

[olive oar]

The staff kills crushers in two crits. Usually you're not supposed to go into melee against armor.

[rich spindle]

bro...

[crisp ether]

...

Uh...

I think you got that a tad uh

Backwards.

[olive oar]

Melee you fancy you, that's not set anywhere.

[steel flame]

?

[olive oar]

means that you're free to try whatever you want

[steel flame]

oh im commenting on build

to complement fireball staff

if thats what you are leaning into

ima try it out later, i dont have the time atm, gotta pick up family at the airport in 30min

[olive oar]

Sure.

[olive oar]

Not at all. On this build you want to deal with everything by just using fireballs.

[crisp ether]

So then.

Why do you have a FGS then?

[steel flame]

hmmmmm, my typical ethos with blazing builds is to drop as much quell speed out of the build as possible so you can stay redline, you only need the be under 100 to cast and tapping r after every cast is enough to cast again

[crisp ether]

You might as well run something that'll let you be faster on your feet at this point with that line of logic.

[crisp ether]

Heck at that point you could just run a knife and get the mega zoomies

[steel flame]

the fireball staff is your main weapon ye, so you can take something in melee to provide something you dont have already, mobility is a good one, and 1h force swords will get you better dodge distance and efficieny when you need to make more space for your staff

i like to take one with deflector as an oh shit button for gunner spam

for staff only builds

though empathic usually handles that

[olive oar]

Strecth your imagination and imagine that in that room where a loot of gunners, and trash horde everywhere... one reason for me to go for ranged. Like I'm building the psyker to.

[steel flame]

to explain our line of build logic, why do you think i take laspistol on my fire sword build? why not a fire staff.

[olive oar]

It would be great, but have in mind that this staff is weak indeed, so points to compensate makes us to have to do some sacrifices. This is the only ways that I got the most of this staff. That's why the point for other things is really hard to rearrange.

[steel flame]

fgs has low mobility and while the slash is a good ranged weapon combined with bb, it cant reach out trigger empathic on a dime, so i take the laspistol for that, and for boss damage, so i can use my fgs more for stuff i care about

same with taking a mobility/damage stick in your melee slot

lets you staff more

[olive oar]

I understand that, and I say that in Havoc, you may have to do that, but as I play mostly Auric, I don't have to be so strict, I understand the value of a fast weapon. Specially the swords.

[steel flame]

fair enough, i will no longer comment on melee weapon

ima look at staff

[olive oar]

You can comment, and, if you find one that you apreciatte most, sure do recommend. I'm just saying that I'm just using this sword because it's strong and I'm used to it.

[steel flame]

have you tried hunting a void ball staff with lowest peril resist you can find? it does wonders for damage output

[olive oar]

It won't do, because I don't use Warp Raider, because all my damage bonuses comes from SG and WS.

[crisp ether]

Wasn't the whole point of these suggestions at first to find a better means of boss damage?

[rich spindle]

the voidstrike staff has now been unleashed

auric enemies will fall

[olive oar]

Sometimes it may not be helped. It does good damage to bosses, but not as fast as other builds. It's not mediocre or anything like that at all.

[crisp ether]

#psyker-class message I mean it's your words, not mine bud.

You have Scrier's gaze. You could very easily make this setup do respectable boss damage if you desired.

[olive oar]

List of times by Reginald that takes Plague Ogryn, fastest times only registered.

Sloppy record to demonstrate Havoc 40 kill time.

[crisp ether]

I don't understand what this has to do with what I'm saying.

[olive oar]

That's boss damage - DPS - It does a good amount, but it's on the slower side, If you could defeat it in about 34-35 seconds I would consider the problem solved.

[rich spindle]

woah you stunlocked it

[crisp ether]

In your words. It's mid. Because none of the staves actually have great boss damage.

Surge EK is kind of an exception to that bit it's still not crazy by any means either.

[olive oar]

6000+ damage critical hit where I have more than 40% crit chance is not crazy? In ranged damage where I don't have to open myself to harm?

[crisp ether]

If the DPS isn't great, that doesn't really matter.

It's not just about doing big slow hits but also sustaining that DPS.

[steel flame]

@olive oar ill get back to you late tonight or probably tomorrow

[olive oar]

See ya.

[steel flame]

off to the airport i go

[rich spindle]

true

pogryn is dangeroius to fight

in melee

[olive oar]

Bye.

[olive oar]

I'm measuring the damage, not the threat, like, people must understand here what testing means, and why those times matter, because otherwise it's impossible to have a baseline of where our arguments goes to.

The thing I'm trying to measure or show is not how to fight a live pogryn, but to demonstrate damage potential. And without having average havoc killing time to certain mob types, we cannot compare anything because all we have to compare too is our feelings on how something works.

[crisp ether]

Yeah. The damage potential isn't crazy.

It's okay.

And it's arguably safer.

But that's where it stands. It's just, okay.

Not compared to numerous other options you could be using on a Gaze build.

[rich spindle]

im agreeing with u

[olive oar]

Try to defeat it much faster than that... you'll see that's harder than you think. MK IV FGS could do it with in 31 seconds, this being the best time ever recorded.

[crisp ether]

By Reginald?

[olive oar]

Yes, in that table I showed you: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FU5ol4MED3foGHx8iyZ45_RijilUC1p9sxI32FJXhPI/edit?gid=43579999#gid=43579999
It's not maintained just by him, but he did a lot of experiments. yes.

[steel flame]

Ok so for my own curiosity before I go, what exactly are you looking for? A yes or no on whether this is valid in auric or are you looking to see if the concept is improvable

[crisp ether]

You're holding a lot of weight to these numbers dude.

Like, actually too much for what you're trying to convey here.

[olive oar]

I want to see if this staff build, for the staff part, is one of the best possible builds for the Voidstrike.

[rich spindle]

GOAT

[olive oar]

Why? Because every guide I see says that you shouldn't ever use blazing spirit with it. And I think that Blazing Spirit, in this setup, may solve the most problems that this staff has.

[steel flame]

Aight I'll test it then. Ta

[rich spindle]

invisibility on for maximum scientific rigour

[white valley]

Isn't voidstrike ass at spreading soulblaze with blazing spirit though?

[crisp ether]

It's not terrible at it. It just doesn't really revolutionize Voidstrike or anything either.

[olive oar]

It spreads about 4 meters of the impact point, but with Surge it instantly applies 6 stacks to all targets.

[crisp ether]

I've used it. It's fun.

Bowling ball go brrr.

[white valley]

Isn't that somewhat pointless since if surge procs anything hit by the projectile is dead?

[crisp ether]

I mean there is the notion that the AoE it produces along with PC procs can propagate soulblaze quite well.

Blazing Spirit isn't really bad on Voidstrike.

[steel flame]

Still held back by staff soulblaze cap being 6

[olive oar]

The answer to that would be yes if what I'm trying to apply soulblaze stacks to was the primary target of the shot. But it will propagate to all targets around the fist.

[olive oar]

That's why Perilous Combustion is such a precious talent to have as well. Instant 9 stacks

[crisp ether]

When you kill enough elites or specialists, that's circumventable.

[steel flame]

Ye

[crisp ether]

It's just that Voidstrike itself just isn't the best at doing that.

[olive oar]

No, one critical shot, a single specialist will allow you to reach 9 stacks. Because of the explosion of the staff.

[steel flame]

Blazing trauma stand for life

[crisp ether]

Scrier's Blazing Trauma is a setup for a refined freak 🍷

[steel flame]

I still cry for my quell cancel

[white valley]

4m isn't impressive when voidblast has more than twice that

[olive oar]

The psyker's Atheneum puts blazing spirit in E tier, the super detailed guide on this server put's it as trash tier. Everywhere we read it's said it's useless on Voidstrike.

[steel flame]

Ironically the forced quell on r tap was a buff

[crisp ether]

I don't listen to guides.

[verbal thistle]

guide is far outdated + is heavily biased with not much outside input besides from the author himself

[crisp ether]

I just try what seems interesting and go from there.

[steel flame]

I had to drain every ounce of peril resist and quell speed out of my builds so I could maintain peril xP

[white valley]

Guides, videos, always have some bias, it's inevitable

[crisp ether]

Hell people left and right will say Blazing Spirit should never be on a melee weapon but thats not gonna stop me from running a Havoc with it

[olive oar]

But all of them agrees on this. And another one that infuriates me is about the Zarona Combat Shotgun, they always recommend the wrong blessings.

[steel flame]

I stay away from build guides, I prefer break downs of actual game mechanics, gives me new ideas for how to break them over my knee

[white valley]

Zarona is the duckbill?

[olive oar]

Well. Salmon was making fun of me for having Blazing Spirit in melee, but anyhow.

[olive oar]

Yes, the most underrated gun in the game.

[white valley]

What blessings do you think should be used with it?

[olive oar]

I've been playing with it non-stop for 8 months now.

Flechette and Scattershot. If you can increase crit by other means you could drop Scattershot for manstopper, but only if crit is greater than 45%

[white valley]

Those are standard blessings

You run them especially if your build can source crit somewhere

[olive oar]

All videos and guides suggest people to use the Fullbore and that one that deals 20% more to staggered targets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_f7TEK4jK0

[crisp ether]

Because the neat thing about Zarona

Is that you have options.

[white valley]

Full bore is stupid for the non slug shotties

But no respite is strong regardless

[crisp ether]

Nah it's actually pretty good if you wanna make Zarona a boss killer.

[white valley]

I guess monstrosities will eat all the pellets

[crisp ether]

Zarona has a really weird thing going on with Unyielding targets.

[white valley]

Oh?

[crisp ether]

Just does a lot of damage and I suppose this doesn't matter that much for Full Bore sake

[white valley]

With normal shots or the special?

[crisp ether]

But the minimum pellet spread on unyielding specifically is higher than other targets.

I think it's either or.

[white valley]

Ah, interesting

[crisp ether]

But I do know the base fire has this trait.

I don't know why it does.

But it does.

[white valley]

I'll have to give it a whirl on my zealot

[crisp ether]

Kinda goes bonkers on gunker

[olive oar]

It's the only gun that has a different damage profile when hip firing and when ads. So normal shots must be always used when ads, otherwise the damage will be much lower.

[olive oar]

Flechette is better as a boss killer. The damage from bleeding will be better than the 20% strength increase to the weapon's damage.

Specially because the dot damage keeps ticking while you reload your weapon, it covers for your downtime as well.

[crisp ether]

Bleed decays fairly quickly but I see your point.

Only thing is that it is dependent entirely on crits.

But for scrier's, that's not the worst thing.

[cosmic cobalt]

zarona cs still have very tight spread when ads

you can reliably proc it at mid range

[kind jay]

@steel flame fire melee build goes brrrr lol

[red maple]

What's a good bread and butter FGS nowadays?

Currently using @verbal thistle's Soyker build. Looking to change it up a bit.

[verbal thistle]

Try using the new wall shield

its fun

[red maple]

mind sending me a link to the build?

thanks btw

[verbal thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zAiF_6BjiY&t=412s I've used this (this was before wall buff, so it'll be better now)

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a039491b-8e2d-45e2-8824-1c7629411f80/flat-screen-tv

if you want to change blitz and keytstone, maybe assail and Empowered psionics

[dusky crag]

you were cooking with this thumbnail and title

[verbal thistle]

Thanks

I have so many ideas for my H40 psyker solo thumbnail

I just need to finish it

speaking of

update time

mauler almost at 100

H40 Solo Melee Psyker Deaths

Horde-----
Shooters: 17
Poxwalkers: 4

Elite-----
Mauler: 99
Crusher: 71
Reaper: 22
Shotgunners: 13
Rager: 6
Gunner: 13
Bulwark: 8
Plasma: 5

Special----
Trapper: 33
Dog: 21
Burster: 11
Mutant: 13
Sniper: 13
Flamer: 8
Bomber: 1

Boss----
Rodin: 2
Cspawn: 22
Captain: 2
BoN: 1
Pogryn: 1

Misc----
PotW: 9

Here, made it cleaner

[red maple]

for the voidstrike staff, do I prioritize rmb or lmb?

I don't use it much

[verbal thistle]

I used charged to stagger armor (mauler/crusher/bulwark)

mostly left

[kind jay]

that one bomber

[verbal thistle]

lol yeah

I forgot how i died to him

it might've been on purpose

funny how I've yet to die to fall damage or barrels

[kind jay]

no one there to pop barrels in your face

[verbal thistle]

I mean

repears and snipers still can

and bursters

[kind jay]

true

[spice aurora]

@rich spindle

kinda

😢 😭

[verbal thistle]

kinda?

[steel flame]

@olive oar it for sure works but there is room for improvement in the build

[rich spindle]

I think thats what confused ppl about my hsword clutch vid

they have no frame of reference for clutching

[red maple]

What's better overall? Lingering Influence or Perfectionism/Cruel Fortune

[patent jacinth]

Take perfectionism alone

[olive oar]

Thanks for testing it out. The damage potential is there, and most of the utility toolkit is in place, but some kinks still need to be worked out. The main issue I see is that to reach this potential, you have to go for both SG and WS, which enables the build but also heavily restricts any optional pathing due to the way the talent tree is laid out. With the staff being weak and most points going straight down the tree, there’s not much room for flexibility, but the more people working on it the better.

[limpid lily]

pog H40 surge staff ball-spam + force great sword, Scrier's gaze + Disrupt Destiny game. Lots of clutch moments

Surge Staff's primary fire is so goated.

[spice aurora]

Warp revolver ❤️

[limpid lily]

more like warp bolter imo haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNAQxL9C0_Q plugging the game, intense ahh game, a lot of good clutches and stuff

[potent echo]

Balls

[limpid lily]

Balls

[dire wharf]

Can i see

[rich spindle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/6qESu1PHfG

Downvoted into oblivion 😭

[dire wharf]

People are stupid

[wind spruce]

Yes, it is stupidity to think this would be received well

Its impressive kiting and special control, but you can only appreciate that at an extremely high level of skill

And regardless of whether you can appreciate it, it's still an utterly unengaging video to watch

[limpid lily]

Now that Crusher spawn got decreased A LOT in Havoc, Heavy Sword is definitely VERY viable now. You don't exactly need crazy high Carapace dmg anymore to be viable in Havoc.

But this was before the recent patch so it makes sense that ppl were less inclined to agree lol, I also love Heavy Sword for Havoc tho, but usually gotta at least bring Bolter to up that carapace dmg, at least before patch 1.11.6

[wind spruce]

Heavy sword was definitely h40 viable before this last hotfix

[limpid lily]

oh fs, I played quite a decent amount of Heavy Sword on zealot and vet in h40

[wind spruce]

The reaction to the video was because the video is boring more than anything. If people don't enjoy something they'll find a reason why the something is wrong in some way far more often than just thinking "i did not find this engaging"

[rich spindle]

I’m sorry you feel that way

[wind spruce]

Its an issue with most high level clutches

The higher level of skill execution the more it will look like someone just walked backwards in a square

If you want an engaging video, fail at positioning and fight your way out

[rich spindle]

I shoulda posted a clip of dreg ragers mixed in with 21 horde

But I can already see the comment “flame psyker takes care of this, you need to focus on crushers and bosses”

[dire wharf]

I said what I said

[wind spruce]

Well you cant have said what you did not say, so that checks out

[limpid lily]

hard to see how that was boring tbh, in the sense that it's no less, or even more engaging to watch than those typical knife + dueling sword stuff lol.

It's more like people want to believe what they want to believe, that "heavy sword bad", and even when evidence is presented they tryna find something wrong about it.

[rich spindle]

I think he means it’s boring if you haven’t clutched in havoc before and can’t understand why I’m making the moves I make

So it’s like why is he holding S and not killing everything on screen in 10 seconds

Bruh moments recent h40 clutch on fgs got good reception because force great sword killed 3x more things

I also titled it in a challenging way I suppose

It’s a very popular opinion that the existence of crushers made it so that you could only use like 3 weapons if you ever wanted to win

Those comments always get hundreds of upvotes, it totally confounds me

[kind jay]

whoops

[rich spindle]

Definitely the ogryns fault

[limpid lily]

majority of players aren't good enough to clutch with movement, even when using dueling sword and what not, so it makes sense lol

let alone stuff like thunderhammer and etc.

[wind spruce]

I literally said that its boring regardless of that

But yes, its even worse for the vast majority of people watching because they'll perceive it as an easy situation bc of how well the situation is controlled

[knotty saddle]

I have done this exact thing

on one of those exact sets of stairs

https://tenor.com/view/colon-three-kitty-crumb-cuptoat-heavy-gif-15723533476185307497

the killfeed though... worth

[kind jay]

i regret nothing

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-gun-gif-reverse-michael-jackson-gun-gif-michael-jackson-aim-gun-reverse-michael-jackson-aim-gun-gif-14571008092837303257

[sand cove]

is there any way to give melee psyker more mobilty. bro is so slow coming from hive scum lol

also why would ever ever use the obscurus/deimos force sword over teh dueling sword lol

[plucky flax]

Deflector

[sand cove]

is it even that strong

[dire wharf]

I use a shredder autopistol for mobility

[thorn cedar]

laspee

[steel flame]

Def leaving free damage on the table. If anything id drop peril resist warp charge talent for warp rider. You can already juggle it for longer than you need with just empyric

[steel flame]

Yes

[cosmic cobalt]

superiority

[cosmic cobalt]

what are you struggling with

weapon etc

[sand cove]

my biggest thing is that psyker moves slow. that's probably just a feature of the design which is fine. Hive scum or zealot i can swap to the ranged weapon to run faster but psyker I use staff and the dueling sword and they both have the same move speed/mobility. But also swapping from anything other than dueling sword kinda sucks since its too good still

[cosmic cobalt]

what your tree look like

[sand cove]

voidblast

[cosmic cobalt]

this is not a melee psyker build lol

[sand cove]

im not trying to be melee. im trying to move faster lol

move speed etc

[frail oar]

Why not take the move speed on crit? Or scriers?

[sand cove]

there's move speed on crit?

let me look

[frail oar]

Top right the right most nodes cant remember if its top or bottom

[cosmic cobalt]

cookie cutter voidblast build

the top of the tree apply to literally all staff build

[sand cove]

oh shit

[sick compass]

psyker is a class

yes

[sand cove]

gotcha

ty

[frail oar]

There's also a 5% move speed by disrupt destiny. If you run DD, the 5%, mettle and the 20% from scriers you will be bouncing between dd targets.

[cosmic cobalt]

dd voidblast is certainly cooking

[frail oar]

Guy said he wants to move fast!

[sand cove]

oh hell yeah. im so blind

yeah thanks guys 😄

[wispy bay]

Your eye sight will only get worse.

/s

I don't recognize any name in this chat anymore.

[wraith sphinx]

I still play I just don't really post anymore

Not much to post about and nothing to prove

[frail oar]

Yea last update was dogshit now the game is stale.

[wraith sphinx]

Mhm

Expeditions were a massive dissapointment I took a brief break from the game as a result

[wispy bay]

Same same

[rigid sky]

Eh, Darktide is still darktide

I still happily play a couple of aurics a day

[graceful arch]

i moved to vermintide instead

[dire wharf]

Bro, it looks like you're vaping and playing one handed

[olive oar]

Know why this happens? Remember when I said that without knowing the tests times people won't have a base ground from where to judge if an interaction is fast or not and just act based on their feelings? Yeah, that means that they'll overrate things that they already know and do well versus things that they don't know and also do well. And I saw that video when posted. Awesome.

[olive oar]

Most of reddit don't play havoc, and they say that they know better of the game than they really do, it's a ressonant machine that will always repeat the same things.
I made a build that everyone said was unusable, this wording, then with that build I did my first Auric solo with bots, and I still got downvoted. The way of life.

[olive oar]

Psyker that becomes high on warp to go fast: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1063036-3b23-4c68-9de0-5da6f0f1817a/warp-lightning-battle-mage
Recommend the Electrokinetic to those who don't want to try the shotgun, Charged strike on wide heavies allows for incredible horde control, even amongst elites, 100% uptime on malefic momentum without you having to micromanage attacks. Can deal more than 7000k damage on head crits.

[urban meteor]

Anyone wanna give their 2 cents on this?

I've got this headpop build, and like, I'm using it for specials and elites, naturally, then for crowd, I'm using a fgs

but like, what's my gun slot doing?

I only every use it 'cause it's fun to light idiots up

but like, I wouldn't die if I didn't have one at all

[steel flame]

Laspistol go brr

[urban meteor]

I shoot the things after they die just cause it's aura moments

[steel flame]

I use it to trigger empathic evasion

When I'm not in sword range

[urban meteor]

Ah yeah that's a good use

[kind jay]

use the double barrel and shout "git off my lawn" every time you fire it

[rigid sky]

Vraks IAG is really good at corridor fighting

faster at killing things than your Assail when the pressure is higher or if you can't afford to wait for the dart to reach them

but yeah, FGS means you don't really need the gun on bosses as much as we used to

still, sometimes you can't fight the boss in melee as reasonably if there's a bunch of area denial happening, and the gun kills bosses really hard

[urban meteor]

I'm probably gonna get stoned for saying this but I also use BR on bosses when I can't fgs

Only when it's on Resonance

[rigid sky]

Brain rupture is decent anti-boss damage

not good

[urban meteor]

It's definitely constant but I've seen better

[rigid sky]

but if you can't safely melee it's ok

much better than using a staff generally

[rich spindle]

I’m sorry you feel that way 💔

[dire wharf]

This.

I main fgs so use shredder pistol to close gaps and keep mobile

[wind spruce]

Thanks for apologising 💋

[spice aurora]

@rich spindle you gotta have some stupid stupid goofy “le reddit wholesome chungus” title

My old destiny posts for example xD

[jovial juniper]

Inquisitorial Servitor solo smite havoc 40

[spice aurora]

smite boss dps go crazy

[rich spindle]

Any time my pleasant friend

[barren arrow]

servitor is crazy

[wind spruce]

I said multiple times it was impressive/high skill

If its unpleasant to explain why the reception to something was poor while also complimenting that thing lock me up

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-chief-wigum-bake-him-away-toys-take-him-away-boys-police-gif-19905581

[rich spindle]

Public gaming discord user discovering concepts of social etiquette in real time

[wind spruce]

You'll get there eventually

It can be difficult to accept that feedback isn't all sunshine and roses, and to accept the positive and the negative elenents of that feedback with equal grace

[rich spindle]

Thank you for the additional demonstration

[wind spruce]

Do you always engage in sarcasm instead of honestly saying how you feel?

[radiant frigate]

i see my siblings are having a normal one

[rich spindle]

Pleasant day as usual with my friends

[wind spruce]

Ill just stroke your ego next time, i forgot where i was

[rich spindle]

I knew I could count on you

[verbal thistle]

please do not the ego

[rich spindle]

I need that custom emoji

[kind jay]

you need doom emojis

[dire wharf]

@radiant frigate

How do you say blaze force greatsword in german?

[radiant frigate]

why would you want to

[rich spindle]

Flammenfortzschward

[radiant frigate]

anyway the answer would be something like FLAMMEN-MACHTGROßSCHWERT 😡

[dire wharf]

Because they're always awesome sounding

[kind jay]

important to note the angry emote is part of the translation

[dire wharf]

I was thinking of that videogame pvkk

Planetenverteidigungskanonenkommandant

[jovial juniper]

She

Flamen

On my

Machygrob

Till I

Schwert

[radiant frigate]

many people get this part wrong

[radiant frigate]

no no it's ß

not b

[verbal thistle]

ß = ss

if you dont have a german keyboard just use ss

Machygross

[radiant frigate]

sz also acceptable

[verbal thistle]

really?

[radiant frigate]

less common but yes

[verbal thistle]

I learned german from someone from Berlin

I see

[radiant frigate]

there's also no y in Macht

[verbal thistle]

Macht

I see it now

[radiant frigate]

i assumed it was a qwerty type

typo

[verbal thistle]

yeah

[radiant frigate]

ironic

[verbal thistle]

lol

[jovial juniper]

I didn't want to set up the German keyboard

[verbal thistle]

I like how literal german is sometimes

[rich spindle]

How do you pronounce 🅱️ in German

[radiant frigate]

ctrl c ctrl v

[verbal thistle]

special b or normal b

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/why-didn't-i-think-of-that-mrboss-smiling-friends-frowning-friends-of-course-gif-14810131280811766713

[rich spindle]

How do you pronounce 🫃 in German

[radiant frigate]

:schwangerer_mann:

[rich spindle]

lol

[radiant frigate]

[verbal thistle]

lol

[rich spindle]

Oh my god

I need it

[kind jay]

no no. doom emotes

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hololive-doom-mage-arena-meme-holo-gif-17922895179536094511

DOOM?

[dire wharf]

PLANETENVERTEIDIGUNGSKANONENKOMMANDANT😡

[plucky flax]

[rich spindle]

That’s one of the buff icons for skitarii

[radiant frigate]

9 months years pregnant

[plucky flax]

I'm locking in on this pregnancy

[verbal thistle]

full condo in there

for the baby

[jovial juniper]

They got the pregnant of Taubaté here

😭

[rich spindle]

We need these in creature spawner

[marble crater]

So you didn't

[verbal thistle]

whuh

[rich spindle]

Berlin stereotype is everyone speaks English

[verbal thistle]

ah

[dire wharf]

Nothing personal kid

[kind jay]

imagine having grandpa nurgle's gift and dying because some guy pushed too hard in your general direction

[dire wharf]

@kind jay

[kind jay]

BONK

[urban meteor]

I think holding the blitz should have a special action

maybe a run of the mill punch

just to make it aligned with all the rest

[junior breach]

hey I haven't played since the newer reworks, so all my stuff is reset, anyone have any advice on a build?

[urban meteor]

They're used to making useless special actions, see knife's punch

[junior breach]

pref venting shriek

[urban meteor]

I'm doing headpop shriek EP as we speak

it's pretty fun

crunch crunch

[junior breach]

im thinking rupture shriek warpsiphon

just not sure what to put the points in

[urban meteor]

I can think of creeping flames, that one with either 10% peril generation or quelled gives toughness

Cause on Siphon you're just shrieking more often

[dusk timber]

Pinned build guide

[junior breach]

oh thanks buff!

[remote shadow]

I'm never getting Frenzied Killer 3

Flame staff, Auric No Man's Land, in the trenches, absolutely thronged with groaners like a clogged intestine and I don't even manage to surpass my current record of 117/120

Starting a petition to remove teammates

[junior breach]

am I massively hurting myself if I take the passive regen from essence harvest over the 20% bonus damage to monstrosities and ogryns?

[kind jay]

damage wise yes definitely

numerically speaking. as usual there's nuance to it. if essence harvest specifically is keeping you alive that's better since you do no damage while dead

but you may not even need it depending what other toughness gen you have.

[eager prairie]

Would weapons also affect that choice? Like, a blaze greatsword already does a ton of Unyielding damage, same as Inferno Staff.

I wanna say the former has something crazy like a 600+ damage Strikedown vs. Unyielding - body shot, before damage buff modifiers.

[rich spindle]

Not that massively

[kind jay]

it's simply a matter of whether you want to do more damage or not. you will chunk monsters harder and kill ogryns faster

on some weapons you may hit breakpoints with less buffs

[eager prairie]

I could also see it being a worthwhile pickup on the Monstrous Specialists maelstroms just because the disruption two monsters can cause even when weaker has ended a couple of my runs before. Kill at least one way faster and it becomes easier.

(Or if you really, REALLY hate Bulwarks and Reapers)

[kind jay]

i like it i use it on all my builds

let's me blast the ass out of them with full dd stacks and scriers or at least chunk the crap out of them so someone else can finish

[half helm]

guys why do I suck with this character

like way harder than the others

like my sucking is,

[kind jay]

it's harder to play overall, imo

[urban meteor]

Should I be bothering Daemonhosts all the time?

I mean, it's not exactly the engaging epic battle experience I expected from this great thing

it's usually some guy get chased by big ghost and you light 'im up

or he just decides it's you, and that's that because he'll tp and play a 'Tide game like a pro(m1 m1 m1)

[kind jay]

if no one can kill it fast it's usually not worth the corruption and possible death

but you also don't learn to fight them if you don't

also chaos is fun

[urban meteor]

it's really not what I expected

It's kind of a Plague Monk + Enderman

[verbal thistle]

its just witch from left for head

if you mess around with her, you get to fight her

[urban meteor]

except it's piss easy to avoid, which kind of defeats the point

[verbal thistle]

but sometimes it helps to kill her but there is nothing rewarded to killing her outside giving room to move

[urban meteor]

at least Witch is feasible to accidentally trigger

[kind jay]

sometimes they're in bad spots and it's worth killing

mutant might toss you to her mid horde

[urban meteor]

Worth like "I'll get something" or worth like "Now I can use this hallway that is 3% of the whole level"

Because one is better than the other

[deft stump]

Witch is significantly easier to kill if you have any shotgun though.

[kind jay]

i mean it's totally based on the run. if you can run past just run past but sometimes you're stuck fighting or have to back up or get knocked into it or someone accidentally wakes it etc etc

you can lose someone at a crucial moment and it'll be a run ender

[urban meteor]

Yeah it's definitely a difficult enemy overall

I'm just bummed out by their moveset I guess

[cosmic cobalt]

witch can be killed under a seconds

[kind jay]

cause she just punches you?

[cosmic cobalt]

same for dh ig but that depend on your team a lot more

witch is a straight 1 shot though

[kind jay]

give dh a melta gun I say

[urban meteor]

yeah I was expecting a little something of a super powered Warp thing

Because she's literally the green robe rat from VT with a TP

10/10 aura though

Had me shook the first 2 times

[kind jay]

yeah she's pretty basic sadly

you have options with psyker tho. fgs to the head will shrek her real fast

if you have kinetic deflect you can just hold block if your team isn't braindead

ek destroys her if she's not on you. easy targetting

most guns if you can aim

[urban meteor]

This has been a trend everytime I kill one