psyker-class

[earnest furnace]

I mean ork dedicated games, theres a bunch of RTS games where the orks are a playable.

[kind jay]

darktide 2 will just be orktide

[cinder sapphire]

If there's anyone who's winning in 40k.

It's the Orks.

Because they're having fun.

[thorn cedar]

exactly

[deft stump]

End up in Khorne's domain, still having fun.

[cinder sapphire]

"WE GETS TO FOIGHT FOREVA'?"

"ZOGGING EXCELLENT DAT IS"

[deft stump]

Don't mind as long there's a good fight. And I mean, with Khorne, it'll be so.

[winged spear]

Vague question. What are some effective ways to do high damage with magic/staves as Psyker? High/often critical with that?

I’m experimenting with Psyker and trying to see what works while also enjoying the character.(Not cheesing a meta)

[rancid geyser]

Well there is Uncanny Stacking with SoulBlaze using the Infernus staff. There is also Disrupt Destiny with Penetration of the Soul on EK floating between 58.5% and 63.5% crit or even higher. Each really want you to be around roughly 60% peril or higher naturally

[deft stump]

Edge at high peril generally.

[cinder sapphire]

Depends on your mechanisms for damage.

You have left click Surge Electric Staff builds with crits.

Uhhh.

Voidstrike? The one that shoots out the orb.

Doable too.

[deft stump]

This assumes non-SG. SG just abuses the 10 sec 100% to the max.

[winged spear]

I currently have a mess of random try-outs. Voidblast, Blaze Force, Smite, Venting Shriek, and Warp Siphon. General idea of what I have at the moment.(Switching a lot lately, trying new stuff)

[cinder sapphire]

https://tenor.com/bY0uf.gif

My favorite form of magic damage

[deft stump]

Swap smite for bb and kf.

You have a standard vent trauma build.

You still get to watch things burn down.

[winged spear]

I was using Brain Burst originally but wanted to be more group focused also. Because many like to play like it is a solo game. So I wanted to fix their faults in team performances. KF?

[rancid geyser]

Kinetic Flayer

Brain Rupture upgrade

[mental rock]

Kf refers to kinetic flayer, one of the bb subnodes

[winged spear]

Oh. Thank you. I was using that originally.

[rancid geyser]

There are a few things that have specific and direct synergies: Smite kind of wants Enhanced Psionics not Warp Siphon in my opinion, even when using Venting Shriek. But as the chat is saying, swap Smite for Brain Rupture + Kinetic Flayer. You can still help your team by just burning things to death.

removing threats does more for the team than just disabling them

[winged spear]

I switched to Psionics with Smite now. Also to EK Staff.

Thank you. And yeah. Good point. So maybe my original was not so bad. Just needed sharpening.

[ripe obsidian]

If you want high damage, Smite is the worst option.

[winged spear]

I was assuming so XD.

[jovial juniper]

Weak Aura

Strong Aura smites 24/7

[winged spear]

Elaborate? @jovial juniper

[rancid geyser]

they are doing it for the memes

[jovial juniper]

No I'm not

Smite is made to be held

Hold it

Fatshark wants you to do that

And Fatshark knows what they are doing

[rancid geyser]

yeah, they bait people into thinking bad game decisions are actually good

like inflating Armor Health pools

[jovial juniper]

Proof A
You will automatically quell when you reach 100% on smite

Proof B
You can hold smite ad infinitum (if the proper conditions are met)

Proof C
EA sports, it's in the game

[thorn cedar]

warp unbound pretty much finalized that stance yea

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-saul-your-mom-valid-argument-ratio-gif-4853116495162494835

Not but like

Fatshark knows that smite is too strong too

It's why it gets nothing buffed with Enhanced Blitz modifier

[rancid geyser]

what?

[jovial juniper]

I wake up everyday and thank the smykers for gatekeeping smite with their skills

[rancid geyser]

didnt part on enhanced psionics for smite come from one of the old smite upgrades? The upgrade that increases the spread faster

[jovial juniper]

[jovial juniper]

The maelstrom modifier

[rancid geyser]

oh

[jovial juniper]

Assail gets +2
BB gets reduced cost or something

[rancid geyser]

i forgot that existed

[jovial juniper]

Smite gets nothing

They low key could make enhanced blitz give smite a -mass modifier

[winged spear]

Oh. Thank you for the information.

[jovial juniper]

Remember to reset your dodges

Aka stop dodging for 0.85 seconds

[earnest furnace]

In higher level smites only real utility is to stun hordes of elites

[thorn cedar]

its really just a pace setter

[earnest furnace]

The dot effect on heavy attacks is still nice though

[thorn cedar]

good for revive setups and objs

[jovial juniper]

[thorn cedar]

but like, there's better

and yeah charged strike is still awful im afraid

[earnest furnace]

Ok, the dot isnt very strong, but its enough to kill most horde and specialists even on a weak heavy attack

[thorn cedar]

or you can swing twice and save the talent point

[earnest furnace]

But the great thing is that its counted as warp kill

[thorn cedar]

its really goofy

[earnest furnace]

So you get a ton of roughness with soulstealer

[thorn cedar]

either your weapon doesnt need it cause the shit dies to the one swing or your weapon is shit

i think charged strike should just be deleted tbh or else wildly reimagined

[royal falcon]

mods barrel this individual off a cliff

[thorn cedar]

like instead of it being super easy to proc on trash troops (because who fucken cares) it should be really good at stunning crushers

[jovial juniper]

There are no mods
There are no barrels

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-23880338

[thorn cedar]

either way in its current iteration charged strike is hands down the dumbest node on psyker's talent tree

[royal falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-gif-13813457612366790790

[rancid geyser]

should become a blessing

[thorn cedar]

to make it good you have to deliberately take a bad weapon

[royal falcon]

how else will I kill my teammates'

[jovial juniper]

No please

No

Not a dot blessing

[royal falcon]

OOH
OOH
OGRYN BLITZ BARREL THROW

[jovial juniper]

Give every psyker weapon shock and Awe

There

The best thing that could happen to charged strike

[thorn cedar]

im not sure it even works like that

even if we did

[jovial juniper]

It works like that

[rancid geyser]

imma be real

if charged strike was just built into smite it would be better

after smiting you get a period of time where it is active

[jovial juniper]

I had a whole testing

Type shit

[thorn cedar]

they were nice enough to roll Lightning Storm into base smite

[jovial juniper]

Yeah Fatshark ain't going to touch smite for a while

[thorn cedar]

where's the shock n awe

[rancid geyser]

does charged strike not stack?

[jovial juniper]

Unless they break it again and make EP interact with charged strike

[thorn cedar]

yea 1,600dmg charged strike was deffo too much

[jovial juniper]

Second video after that one

[jovial juniper]

No

And you can only apply it every 2 seconds

And because it interacts with mass the same way smite does

A monstrosity (20 mass)

Only takes 1 tick

[thorn cedar]

oh nice

yeah its like

not great

and again it would be cool if charged strike was instead the premier choice for smite to work against biggies

[jovial juniper]

It's why you also need enfeeble for Charged Strike

[thorn cedar]

but its just shitty smite on a conditional

and yeah you still need TWO talent points to make it work

[jovial juniper]

Or just smite in general

[thorn cedar]

dumb concept implemented poorly

[jovial juniper]

This is why I keep pitching the shock and awe idea

And since stagger also reduces mass

A high stagger weapon with Shock and Awe would be too good for Charged Strike

Perfect Strike also reduces mass but it's just for that one attack so it doesn't have the time to really benefit Charged Strike

It has to be Shock and Awe

[thorn cedar]

give force swords shock and awe

so i can put it on illisi

profit (?????)

probably still no

[jovial juniper]

Deimos heavy poke would be good with it

But like

The list of things that survive it is pretty inexistent

[earnest furnace]

How would we buff smite accordingly then

[rancid geyser]

tbh it should have the upgrades baked into it like ogryn nuke -- just be a 1 point blitz

and remove the part where it makes crowds impassible

[earnest furnace]

Also why do i need to combo charged strike with enfeeble? Isbt charged strike on its own good enough?

[wraith sphinx]

Reinstalled the game on a whim because I randomly felt like playing ek psyker

<clueless

[rancid geyser]

enfeeble gives both charged strike and the hit that follows it extra damage

[earnest furnace]

Oh, so its a straight 10% damage boost to heavies

+the effect

[rancid geyser]

surge surge build in the pins is a good starting point

[wraith sphinx]

I'm good ty

[rancid geyser]

+10% all damage i think, while the target is electrified

[wraith sphinx]

I already have my own ek build

[rancid geyser]

well you did say clueless, just notifying that there are clues

[jovial juniper]

So
Smite therefore charged strike interacts with mass
The more mass the less effective
Enfeeble pretty much doubles the effectiveness of smite/charged strike

[wraith sphinx]

Oh not clueless in that sense

[jovial juniper]

Charged Strike is not good on it's own

[wraith sphinx]

Clueless as in I'm falsely expecting to have a good time

[jovial juniper]

20 mass CS/Smite ticks once

20 mass ticks about 5 times

[rancid geyser]

yikes

why tf does it work like that?

[jovial juniper]

[earnest furnace]

Removes mass interaction with charged strike, and have enfeeble stack or something

[earnest furnace]

Also is that a mod that allows you to use hammer on psyker?

[jovial juniper]

Yes

Loadout Config

[earnest furnace]

Out of curiosity, is it good on psyker?

[jovial juniper]

At the time shock and Awe was only available on Hammer

[earnest furnace]

Psyker already has pretty absurd weakspot damage, my build can 2 shot crushers. So surely with the hammer you can get some wild damage

[rancid geyser]

i mean the only class that cant 1-2 shot base game crushers is Hive Scum I think

unless we count rockets

and needle pistol

[jovial juniper]

I mean
Not exactly

Hammer finesse is pretty meh

So building crits on it is pretty meh

Psyker does have +damage so it might deal some damage

But it still lacks attack speed

And stagger

[earnest furnace]

DD on 25 stacks + scriers and specifically the block charged attack on the FGS

[rancid geyser]

with the poke at 25 stacks you can technically 1 tap a base game crusher

if KF activates

[earnest furnace]

Whats KF again?

[rancid geyser]

Kinetic Flayer

[earnest furnace]

Thats the uhhh, non-warp get damage on warp and vice versa?

[rancid geyser]

no

that's malefic momentum

that one also scales Kinetic Flayer

[jovial juniper]

Oh also with Warp Splitting fully stacked your heavy sweep will have 32+ cleave

Not that it'll help much because of the damage distribution

But still

[earnest furnace]

Well thats what I use charged strike for

[rancid geyser]

Kinetic Flayer is the Brain Rupture upgrade that performs the Blitz on the 1st special, elite or monster that you damage on a 12 second cooldown

[earnest furnace]

Oh that one

[rancid geyser]

also if you are using the FGS with the shove poke, you are in a minority of FGS users

i do like the head height sweeps on that one though

[earnest furnace]

Dude i love the shove poke. Its does insane damage and i love how far it can reach

[earnest furnace]

And also that. Its perfect for melee psyker

Light-heavy-light-heavy with charged strike and soulstealer and you have perma maxed toughness

[urban meteor]

How does Warp resistance work exactly?

Does having the weapon equipped just buff your peril gen or something?

[earnest furnace]

Generate less

[hearty geyser]

i generally dump the peril clear rate on my staffs, better to shoot more before blowing up, staffs are already faster at quelling

[ashen edge]

Brother and Sister, our glorious flame staff got buff while dueling sword got nerf

[hearty geyser]

snoozer! zappy staff is my favourite

unmfathomable that theyd buff a weapon thats already widely considered to be OP

[ashen edge]

I wouldn't mind if they nerf the range tho

be more in line with explosive or trauma staff

btw, is you profile a modified version of Kublai Khan

[hearty geyser]

absolutely, psyker already has enough opressive horde clear, limiting one of if not the most effective tool for it would generally be good for balance, but then again thatd probably just make more voidstrike staff users

[hoary vapor]

uncanny is dead ?

[hearty geyser]

no the OG genghis but i have started a scars army that i will be hiding genghis kirk in

[ashen edge]

still good imo. brittleness still applicable to boss

TBH, I just enjoy the emperor children release from last year

Tho fulgrim model looks way worse from his 30k daemon counterpart

[earnest furnace]

We are jagathai Khan, we carry the scar

[hearty geyser]

between me and my buddy we have all 4 traitor primarchs serving specific gods

i quite like the fulgrim model, i just want to make sure his weird peeled fleshpussycockthing looks adequitely gross

[hoary vapor]

How much worse is it now

I can’t really realise

I can’t fucking believe they nerfed uncanny it’s killing my melee build

[sturdy reef]

Why buff SB against carapace

Wot

[ashen edge]

How? FGS still solid even without uncanny

[earnest furnace]

Very strong heavies + wide lights make for versatile melee

[ashen edge]

120% rending to 40% brittleness max

[hoary vapor]

I use combat knife

[earnest furnace]

Even without armor pen

Am i a heretic for going riposte + fleshtearer on knife usually?

[ashen edge]

It's an easy crit weapon, used to be the best zealot weapon via bleed build before dueling sword release to them

[sturdy reef]

force sword buff I like

[ashen edge]

Nah, they're bread and butter combo for old zealot build

[sturdy reef]

But the patch note formatting is confusing to distinguish shovel/fs changes

[rancid geyser]

Warp Resistance that you get from the talent tree works on everything and reduces the amount of peril you generate across the board. Warp Resistance on Weapons only affects the Peril that that weapon generates

[thorn cedar]

oh i had no idea tf you were all talking about

[hoary vapor]

Yeah but now wtf I do without uncanny

[thorn cedar]

i see the post now

[sturdy reef]

Ya

[thorn cedar]

about time uncanny gets nerfed

to be clear even at 40% uncanny is VERY strong

[sturdy reef]

They buffed SB tho

[wraith sphinx]

is this meant to be "brutal momentum"

[sturdy reef]

Against cara

40% is worth running

[dusky crag]

no brutal gives cleave bladed gives rending

[thorn cedar]

most rending talents are 16-20%

[ashen edge]

You just hit them 2 - 3 times more

[sturdy reef]

Yeah

[hoary vapor]

Well it just doesn’t give rending now

[thorn cedar]

so 40% on a very easy to stack blessing is fukken gud

[hoary vapor]

That makes it booty tho

[sturdy reef]

Maybe the 75% peril rending perk is worth running for sb builds

[wraith sphinx]

which weapons have bladed momentum blessing?

[sturdy reef]

After these cara base ADM changes

Idk

[fringe tangle]

Pyro staff getting a random buff for the 10 billionth time.

[dusky crag]

the heavy sword I think

[wraith sphinx]

oh

[sturdy reef]

Isnt it 20% rending for that perk?

[urban meteor]

Ah thanks thanks
I didn't find that over on steam, it's probably there but I had to read like it's fnaf because I'm slackin' off, discreetly

[wraith sphinx]

explains why I wasn't familiar lol

[hoary vapor]

Combat knife now z tier

[rancid geyser]

brittleness and rending is just applicable to everything

[hoary vapor]

Is brittleness not generally worse

[thorn cedar]

looks like good changes

[rancid geyser]

any percentile of brittleness that puts you past 100% translates to increased damage

[thorn cedar]

no and yes

[hoary vapor]

So yes

[thorn cedar]

no because 1% brittle and 1% rending are functionally the same

yes in that most things that offered brittle offered way less than rending

the issue has always been that uncanny was insanely overtuned at 124%

[rancid geyser]

1% brittleness/rending translates to 0.25% increased damage past 1.0 ADM. Brittleness is a debuff ,while rending is a self buff

and it's always an increase in damage

[hoary vapor]

Right but so we get like 5% brittleness which is like so much worse

[earnest furnace]

Isnt the difference that rending is a weapon stat, and brittleness a de buff? Dont they have the same amount of power?

[thorn cedar]

it is a nerf, yes, but not because its brittleness

its a nerf becasue its no longer 124%

[hoary vapor]

Yeah but it’s still a massive nerf

[thorn cedar]

and overdue

ridiculously overdue

[wraith sphinx]

changes look cool

[thorn cedar]

ye

im quite content

[rancid geyser]

brittleness also never goes past 40%

[sturdy reef]

Im happy for the force sword buffs

[rancid geyser]

all sources of brittle are capped at 40% iirc

[sturdy reef]

And the rotten armor changes

Thank fucking god

[hoary vapor]

Combat knife zzz tier

[thorn cedar]

some sources are different and therefore you can go beyond 40% sometimes

but not from any single source

[sturdy reef]

Thats how it shoulda been from the start

Big hp

Buf infested

[thorn cedar]

yea thats always what it sounded like right

[rancid geyser]

Rending is just a player specific buff, not particular to weapons but just the damage you do. Brittle is an enemy specific Debuff that makes damage and hits they take work as if their modifiers were higher

[wraith sphinx]

I'd be down for fatshark to rerun the rotten armor event with this change

[rancid geyser]

yeah each different source of brittle goes up to 40% so you can stack stuff like onslaught with something else that brittles

i think FS is actually smart by limiting it that way

ngl im pretty sure onslauight was part of the reason why the dueling sword got changed

was literally just the best on vet

[sturdy reef]

Yeah like how does "rotten" imply carapace

[hoary vapor]

My poor combat knife

[sturdy reef]

Cannot wait to do h40 with the buffed obscurus

It was already good

[earnest furnace]

btw do crits have extra cleave or rending by default? ive noticed that crit hit seem to go trough even carapace

[rancid geyser]

ngl that rotten armour change might make crushers super squishy now lmao

assuming the buff itself works the same way

[sturdy reef]

They will still have assloads of hp

[rancid geyser]

which doesnt matter because infested ADM will make short work of that -90% to +25% damage taken

im calling it

9.5k HP was not really a big hurdle, it was mostly the Rotten Armour damage reduction stacked with the armor type

SoulBlaze massive buff

[main crow]

Psyker buffs let’s goooo

Really needed them

[rancid geyser]

and they nerfed krak grenades

FS is actually stupid ngl

[main crow]

We all know how weak soulblaze is, and how inferno staff just really needs the compensation for being the best horde clear in the game

[rancid geyser]

AND nerfed toxin but SB untouched

[main crow]

[rancid geyser]

yeah FS is actually clowning

[main crow]

Buffed it*

[rancid geyser]

incirectly yes

but they legit did not touch it which is very concerning

[main crow]

They gave it 5 more damage at max stacks

[thorn cedar]

FATSHAAAARK!!

[icy breach]

Uncanny hard nerf makes me happy

[rancid geyser]

bruh

[thorn cedar]

god its so overdue

[rancid geyser]

WHY THOUGH?!

[sturdy reef]

Idk

I cant explain that change lol

[hearty geyser]

you will use the fire staff and you WILL like it.

[kind jay]

so all they did with crushers is reduce spawn counts (sorta)?

[hearty geyser]

yeah and adjusted rotten armour

[rancid geyser]

they basically assumed that since ppl were abusing the interaction with SB with Rending and Brittle that it needs to be compensated after the change

[kind jay]

well ok

[sturdy reef]

Thats the only way its justifiable to me as well

[ripe obsidian]

SOULBLAZE TOO WEAK, BUFF MORE

[rancid geyser]

fr....

[ripe obsidian]

200% CARAPACE ADMS AND ENEMIES NOW EXPLODE ON DEATH

[thorn cedar]

its to make up for the less of rending

[rancid geyser]

nerfed 1 interaction and slightly made it better on every other interaction because reasons

[thorn cedar]

i dont think it needs it but the logic is not farfetched

[kind jay]

incoming 69mil damage score boards

[thorn cedar]

this does make PotS slightly more attractive

[rancid geyser]

yeah but tbf the nmumber difference i can run

its kinda wild

[ashen edge]

What I mean is that boss usally live long enough for brittleness to stack. most enemy aside of crusher usually die in 2 - 4 hit anyway

[sturdy reef]

Im eyeing it now

[ripe obsidian]

I know, but I barely used the rending abuse. Because it only mattered for Crushers and Rotten Armor.

But Rotten Armor is Infested now.

Wait, it barely mattered for Rotten Armor either

Because DoTs still worked fine.

So

[verbal thistle]

I wish for them to wait for me to finish my psyker solo

[ripe obsidian]

Do not.

[verbal thistle]

so it will mean more

[rancid geyser]

before with maxed stacked uncanny you were getting basically a 900% damage increase + an additional 8.5%.

[sturdy reef]

I WILL

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[hoary vapor]

So is uncanny still worth or

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[hoary vapor]

Only for bosses or

[icy breach]

Which is dumb; the amount of spawns is reduced aswell & rotten modifier is effectively dead; its gonna be piss ez
RIP Rotten Armour 2025 - 2026; you gatekept lots of dogwater ppl while you lasted

[ripe obsidian]

Is good, just not mandatory. We need to see if the push attack on force swords still applies it.

[icy breach]

🫡

[ripe obsidian]

It is dumb. The Uncanny Strike abuse only impacted Crushers in any meaningful way. Every single other enemy, except blue stimmed enemies, took 100% or more ADM from Inferno and Soulblaze.

[rancid geyser]

they wouldn't have had to make the change if they didn't just absolutely bloat the damage HP values to begin with

[rancid geyser]

yup

some were already on 150% damage from SB. Max uncanny did provide a +31% damage bump on those enemies though, but they would be dead before it mattered much

[ripe obsidian]

So if you have, like 100 crushers out of 3000 enemies, a whole ~3% of enemies benefitted from Uncanny with Soulblaze, assuming a teammate didn't just kill them first

[sturdy reef]

Pre nerf rotten armor and healijg aura was annoying af

Shit was such a slog

[ripe obsidian]

Not 31%, 25%. Rending and Brittleness is hardcapped at 100%.

So the 120% from Uncanny did nothing

[icy breach]

They get lil bonuses after 100% no?

[rancid geyser]

the cap doesnt matter because of how rending works when you are at 1.0 adm or higher

it translates into extra damage

[ripe obsidian]

No.

[rancid geyser]

1:.25

[ripe obsidian]

Let me clarify

100% ADM is not the same as 100% Rending

Rending is a stat that adds to ADMs

[rancid geyser]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

You could have 200% ADMs, and then add 100% rending on top of it for 300% ADMs

[rancid geyser]

but rending will see any ADM above 1.0 and change to .25% increased damage per point

[ripe obsidian]

But rending and brittleness do not provide value over 100%

[rancid geyser]

no

that's not how rending works

[ripe obsidian]

I will get you the code if you want

[rancid geyser]

it would be absolutely disgusting in comparison to what we have now

[ripe obsidian]

I have read the source code of this.

[icy breach]

Yeah i’m with Kuro here; i was told it works like that andvit gets heavy diminishings like you gain very little dmg

[ripe obsidian]

Hold on.

Let me find the code, then.

[rancid geyser]

it was changed last year at some point

but any modifier past 1.0 will cause rending to be +.25% increased damage per point

[heady maple]

Hmm wonder how the new uncanny will work with force sword push

Will it brittle everyone around you

[rancid geyser]

the numbers in game can also back up the math

pretty sure ryken has a video on it

[icy breach]

Don’t matter to me; i did not use that dogshit

[rancid geyser]

https://youtu.be/Kif1SOFRCtQ?si=ZECCpqcRhVtx_jnm

7:30 in the video. Even shows the applied maths

[ripe obsidian]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/065efdc33c0d703249883bba7dd61354b8f4034d/scripts/utilities/attack/damage_calculation.lua#L641

Here.

rending_multiplier = math.min(rending_multiplier, 1)

You get either your rending bonus or 100%, whichever is lower.

[pure plinth]

"Heavy Relentless and Heavy Strikedown Damage scaled up on all targets-Blaze Force Swords"

so how is an obscurus melee psyker now

[ripe obsidian]

If your ADM is over 100%, then you get damage at a 1/4 ratio, yes. But you cannot get a bonus to rending over 100%. Rending is not the same as ADM here.

[icy breach]

Thats what i meant; you still gain dmg over 100% rending

[rancid geyser]

i have stated multiple times that it becomes increased damage at the ratio

lmao

[ripe obsidian]

I am

Not talking about

The ratio

[jovial juniper]

We'll wait and see

[ripe obsidian]

I am saying that rending bonuses are capped at 100%

Uncanny Strike cannot give you 120% rending, despite how it is worded

It caps at 100%, no matter what

[spice aurora]

isnt it like 100% plus 5% or some shit

[ripe obsidian]

Which is 25% damage if you are already over 100% ADMs, as I said originally

[rancid geyser]

i think you are legit saying what i said already in a different way

[icy breach]

Yeah no brainer; but if you get more rending from sources & its gonna get your adm over 100% then you still gain dmg
Thats what i meant bruv Lmao

[rancid geyser]

this is correct

[ripe obsidian]

We are talking past one another

You said Uncanny gives 31% damage boost. It does not.

It gives 25% maximum

[rancid geyser]

well, we arent speaking past one another

but you did try to correct something that was correct by restating it in a different way

[ripe obsidian]

Because even though the talent says 120% rending, it cannot get that high.

[main crow]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-eating-popcorn-popcorn-plankton-meme-plankton-yes-gif-18251234252356731757

[ripe obsidian]

#psyker-class message

"Not 31%, 25%. Rending and Brittleness is hardcapped at 100%."

This is what I said.

[icy breach]

Welp; since knifes uncanny is killed (good) then…
May i interrest you in Haymaker blessing good Sir?

[jovial juniper]

Sonion

[ripe obsidian]

Is that "kill a guy if you roll a nat 20"?

[rancid geyser]

the 31% is the total value you'd get from uncanny on anything that was already on 1.0 adm or higher

that is not incorrect

it's not the total value of damage you have vs something with a 1.5 ADM

[icy breach]

Roll a 1/5 on heavy AND push attacks

Yes

[main crow]

Ok but what’s the math of inferno + rending + brittleness into carapace now? Would be funny if inferno can now kill carapace more lazily

[rancid geyser]

easy

.25 + 40 = .65

then + the modifyer from rending

from PoTS thats up to another +.2 > .85

[main crow]

[ripe obsidian]

Every attack has ADMs. Those determine your damage against different armor types. If your ADM is over 100%, whether by default or through bonuses, anything over 100% is converted to damage at a 1:4 ratio. 120% ADM is 105% damage, for example.

Rending and Brittleness improve ADMs. However, rending and brittleness, combined, cannot exceed an additional 100% to your ADMs, per the code I linked. Which means if your ADM is 0.25 and you stack uncanny 5 times, it is still 1.25 ADM and not 1.5 or whatever. The additional 0.25 becomes 6.25% damage for 106.5% total damage.

If you have 1.5 ADM already and add Uncanny, it goes to 2.5, not 2.75.

[rancid geyser]

again my guy, that was a precursor to me explaining how it works and just the specific numerical value you get from uncanny

[ripe obsidian]

Uncanny does not give 31%!

It's 25%!

This is what I am saying

[rancid geyser]

no it is literallt .25% increased damage per 1% past 1.0 adm, lmao

the video is in thechat

you can go watch ryken do the applied maths

[ripe obsidian]

@buoyant maple can you explain this better than me? I am getting frustrated

[pure plinth]

with slaughterer and superiority stacked with other buffs, it could easily deal up to 5k or more on a crusher with the first heavy

[buoyant maple]

explain wot

rending?

[ripe obsidian]

Can you please listen to what I am saying? I know this. I have said this. 1:4 ratio.

BUT rending and brittleness bonuses CANNOT exceed 100%

[icy breach]

So usualy unrealistic
Noted

[ripe obsidian]

This:

Rending and Brittleness is hardcapped at 100%.

I even posted the code.

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/065efdc33c0d703249883bba7dd61354b8f4034d/scripts/utilities/attack/damage_calculation.lua#L641

[pure plinth]

is it?

[hoary vapor]

But how will I kill crushers now

[icy breach]

On average if you require alot of things to alighn yes

[icy breach]

Use Trauma staff & get good

[ripe obsidian]

This is what I am saying, yes. Uncanny doesn't actually give 120% rending.

[buoyant maple]

and formula here

[ripe obsidian]

Be brave. Be bold. Use melee like a hero.

[pure plinth]

that's disrupt destiny and scriers

iirc

[ripe obsidian]

rending_multiplier = math.min(rending_multiplier, 1)

[pure plinth]

i know there was also a clip in here of the obscurus one shotting crushers

p easily

[buoyant maple]

yea

it's actually rly easy to test this too

be vet, use an uncanny strike IV weapon, and then put on rending strikes

see if rending strikes add any more dmg

[ripe obsidian]

I just needed backup, because the other guy was driving me bonkers when work is already driving me bonkers.

[rancid geyser]

yeah but uncanny stack +24% per stack

[ripe obsidian]

And you are the mathiest person I know in here, and also the guidiest.

[buoyant maple]

yea so at 4th stack it's 96%
at 5th stack it's 100%

because it cannot exceed 100%

[buoyant maple]

shoulda hav summoned kuli or exhil

me dumb

[rancid geyser]

my statement was on things past 1.0 adm, would be +(120x .25) no?

due to the value you actually get translating into damage at a 1/4 the value

[buoyant maple]

if an attack has 1.0 or higher base ADM vs an armor type
rend/brit will go straight to the dmg conversion and not change ADM at all

[rancid geyser]

30

yes

been saying that the entire time

lmao

[buoyant maple]

and no this would be 100 x0.25

[icy breach]

Ye what i was saying; it still provides dmg

Ez

[buoyant maple]

because again, it's capped at 100%

so uncanny strike for an atk that has 1.0+ ADM can provide at most +25% damage

[main crow]

Maybe you guys should all reiterate the same point like 10 more times

[rancid geyser]

so you are saying the total the bonus percentile can give you is capped and not the bonus it provides to the actual numerical value of the attack damage modifier

[icy breach]

Me & Kuro put it simply & Six can’t understand ogryn logic & gets upsetie

Jk

[ripe obsidian]

I always feel bad pinging Kuli. Like calling the attention of a god upon yourself.

[icy breach]

Bro
Ppl pray everyday many times a day to god
Don’t feel bad

[buoyant maple]

the total possible ADM bonus u can get is +100% regardless if u exceed it
and, should the damage conversion process occur, the max possible that can be converted is 100% because of the above, so u end up with at most +25% damage

[buoyant maple]

yea but unlike most gods, kuli answers

[rancid geyser]

hmm let me prose some variables now

[icy breach]

Six got roiled by 6% difference
…
Wait… Six… getting upset by 6…
@ripe obsidian do you hate yourself? Do you need a virtual hug?

[rancid geyser]

do you guys have the ADM on soulblaze on hand

[verbal thistle]

yes

sec

[rancid geyser]

because before the change the maths will just show in game right

[buoyant maple]

I'd like to remind u that DT has the moebian 6th as an enemy faction while nurgle's number is 7

[rancid geyser]

1.0 + max stacked uncanny, i would just have to read the numbers and reverse-engineer them

[icy breach]

That… made me upset

[verbal thistle]

the only change is https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1362189611631116621/1502341861900030142/image.png?ex=69ff5c64&is=69fe0ae4&hm=0c39a8281cf7be81b468c80a73507a3c7e817ed94dc30e24a09ac1e1f8d16d32&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Does this help?

[rancid geyser]

yes

ty

[buoyant maple]

oh yea fuck I gotta redo this again

[jovial juniper]

Lmao

[buoyant maple]

on top of having to redo shovel section

kms

[verbal thistle]

F

[icy breach]

This… this is not OK

[jovial juniper]

Lmao

[verbal thistle]

goodluck

[jovial juniper]

Twice

[verbal thistle]

wanna see the best psyker and how we wins H40 solo?

here is my skills

[icy breach]

Oh god… i do not envy you… GL

[verbal thistle]

watch and learn

[rancid geyser]

hmm is there a way in creature spawner to stop enemies from dying?

[verbal thistle]

Trying to finish my H40 solo before they make the game easier

[rancid geyser]

might have to grab that mod

[buoyant maple]

There are plenty of other mechanics and enemies that we can improve, such as the high density of Ogryn Bulwarks. We’ll talk more about our shielded enemies in the near future.

hmm

"our shielded enemies"

[icy breach]

You have 1 week
GL HF

[buoyant maple]

I'm guessing we'll get another shielded enemy?

[thorn cedar]

i dont want them fucking with bulwarks too much tbh

i think they're fine

[verbal thistle]

maybe mini captain shields

[rancid geyser]

i really need that to not happen

[icy breach]

Just like in v2 the bruisers with shields

[rancid geyser]

more melee elites that actually pressure players plz and ty

[jovial juniper]

Superhuman reaction time rats

[buoyant maple]

I mean
wouldn't a shielded elite do that too

[jovial juniper]

Oops you threw a bomb

We just reacted to it and blocked

[thorn cedar]

rats rats rats

[rancid geyser]

nah, it will just make people want to scream throw rocks, bombs and bullets even harder

[icy breach]

Dreg maulers… still waiting…

[rancid geyser]

but in actually probably? I dont think stuff like Bulwarks are really the way to go tbh

unless they make shields destructible

[icy breach]

Its carapace after all

[buoyant maple]

I been playing FFW and their shielded enemy is rly cool to me tbh

[icy breach]

FFW?

[buoyant maple]

far far west

[rancid geyser]

which i have 0 clue why the armor mod needs to exist on the shield outside of ruining cleave

[thorn cedar]

it wasnt too bad in vt2 some weapons hard bypassed shields and just pushing twice opened them up

[icy breach]

Ah thats why Tanny boi was making ‚meta’ vid on that game

[buoyant maple]

FFW is much easier than DT tbh

but it's fun

it's like sitting somewhere comfortably in terms of difficulty between DRG and DT

[thorn cedar]

its got horsies

[icy breach]

Thats the point; its to stop bullet from going forward (yet accatrans fire slug goes right through it for example)

[buoyant maple]

yea and one of the best jokers in the game removes the horse

which is rly funny lol

[ripe obsidian]

Also increased direct damage from Purg, slightly.

[thorn cedar]

no scriers gaze buffs fatshark hates psykers

[hoary vapor]

I don’t do staves

[hoary vapor]

But if knife can’t kill crushers now wtf I do son

[icy breach]

Use trauma & get good

[hoary vapor]

I’m NOT unequipping my pistol

[buoyant maple]

who told u that knife can't kill crushers after patch

[hoary vapor]

Without rending what is it if not a cardboard cutout

[icy breach]

2 bad; cope
Use the better staff

[kind jay]

forget scriers where is mind in motion buff

[buoyant maple]

I want u to seriously reflect ur choices in life up to this point

[hoary vapor]

I’m not using ANY staff vro

[hoary vapor]

Why

[icy breach]

Time 2 change that

[buoyant maple]

everyone shud do that once in a while

[icy breach]

Uncanny detoxification is gonna look soo good
I’m already laughting

[rancid geyser]

i see more of this when testing with lower numbers yeah

[jovial juniper]

Ok so
Knife is one of the highest finesse in the game
It'll survive

[rancid geyser]

testing in regular psykhanium is actually a pain in the ass

[hoary vapor]

But if it takes me like 30 push attacks to kill one and there’s still 6

I explode

[buoyant maple]

no it'll take 4~5 PAs

[jovial juniper]

dies of knife explode

[dapper flame]

i move faster with knife, and that alone is enough for me to equip it. knife will be fine

[icy breach]

I will be frowned upon but…
Use Lacerate & Mercy Killer; slice the body then push att the weakspot
Ez

[buoyant maple]

and it's not like u can't use uncanny anymore

uncanny still op anyway

[hoary vapor]

THE BODY?

[verbal thistle]

Crushers giveth, crusher taketh

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-explode-dog-fire-dog-dog-fire-dog-explode-fire-gif-856717762916149374

[icy breach]

Lacerate is on body hits; apply bleed so you can get 60% weakspot from mercy on bleeding enemy

[rancid geyser]

it's always fun when shoved against a wall with no say

isn't it?

[dapper flame]

ayo

[rancid geyser]

big ass dude, he calls him self the crusher

[dapper flame]

mmmmmffgghhh

[rancid geyser]

acting like that's not what actually happend in the clip XD

I don't think homie got to choose

[dapper flame]

uwu crusher chan please dont shove me against a wall

[jovial juniper]

Sonion

[hoary vapor]

There’s no way I can hit the Body that’ll require too much effort for 10 crushers

[rancid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cammy-street-fighter-cammy-white-anime-pinned-down-gif-20346120

basically what happened in the clip

SF was a good movie

[formal harness]

tf are these people on about bro

[icy breach]

Of all things that would be for the weakspot not the body

[icy breach]

Hes right
NOBODY is using that exploit

[formal harness]

point me to a single psyker spamming purgatus without uncanny interaction above auric and I'll call it quits for darktide

[icy breach]

For purgatus atleast

[rancid geyser]

tbf most people legit were not using it

[icy breach]

Want a list?

[formal harness]

overall healthy changes for the game

I'm happy uncanny is getting destroyed

[rancid geyser]

load up in QP where you will play with most of the playerbase

you will see a good chunk of inferno users not using it

which is most of them

not that you have to or need to use it in base game

[buoyant maple]

nah still too good

[rancid geyser]

'balanced'

[dapper flame]

the exploit is really nice, and it does crazy things for flame staff, but i honestly cant remember the last time i actually felt the damage was necessary and not just very convenient, but i also basically play exclusively in a 4 stack

[rancid geyser]

idk if you can even call it an exploit though

people who were doing it were literally just using the game's mechanics, not bugging at all

[hoary vapor]

It’s easier to hit head to me

[formal harness]

it will be a must pick for most things still for sure - like thunderous is right now.
at least it is better than %80 uptime %100 rending

[wintry patio]

just like we couldn't call animation cancelling left click an exploit?

[hoary vapor]

It’s a small target that I always aim for

[formal harness]

good start if you ask me

[hoary vapor]

Having to do body THEN head is weird

[buoyant maple]

it's a step in the right direction
but could have been a larger step

[rancid geyser]

pretty sure the post was talking about uncanny which worked how it was supposed to

since it's written in the image

[rancid geyser]

cancling an animation in a way that it was not intended is completely different

[hoary vapor]

What will make my poor knife relevant now

[dapper flame]

for me, i dont think things will really change in high havocs for me. we dont run flame staff anyways, for us, perilous combustion and shrieks by itself is usually enough to 31 stack large packs of elites ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dapper flame]

the speed alone is enough for me to equip knife, i basically never swing that thing just use it as a mobility tool

[rancid geyser]

probably can see less inferno builds now without randoms screaming in chat

[formal harness]

Trauma staff is still slept on with a venting shriek build

that thing is so safe to play

[dapper flame]

this will affect low havocs more than it will high havocs matchmaking wise i think

trauma is insanely slept on

we run scum trauma, electro, electro for the 4 stack and trauma is basically just better arby if you can live

[icy breach]

I told you already; try it first before you lament like a 3 year old on a dropped ice cream

[dapper flame]

with 3 shrieks its like having an extra flame staff for free

[icy breach]

[rancid geyser]

vicious mockery

but it burns

[dapper flame]

cone of coldfire really

[rancid geyser]

until they put the actual ability that is like that from WH40k it will never exist in this game

they have done pretty decently on porting over abilities over into the game

[dapper flame]

i dont know anything about warhammer, i just play darktide

[rancid geyser]

I think we have like 20ishpsyker abilities out of the moduels

[rancid geyser]

dw im only into 40k for the psykers and tau

eeeh and sisters of battle

[dapper flame]

i think i've had a box of primed tyranid minis ready to paint setting under my desk for the last year

[hoary vapor]

I’m not equipping trauma staff what the fuck even is that

[dapper flame]

voidblast

[formal harness]

gives you trauma when you equip

[rancid geyser]

an interaction i still find to be really nice is KF with True Aim on EK

the amount of free crits you get XD

[icy breach]

I meant the knife blessings you silly goose

[rancid geyser]

KF should get a buff

or just BR in general

[hoary vapor]

No I know I just don’t get what it does

Air strike

[dapper flame]

youve got arby cc with psyker damage

[hoary vapor]

Sounds lame lowk

[dapper flame]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rancid geyser]

oof

[hoary vapor]

I’m just not a staff person honestly

I like my knife psyker

[rancid geyser]

it's actually uniqely different

idk about lame

[hoary vapor]

I say that about all staves dw

[rancid geyser]

also dont know how i feel about a melee player calling a staff lame

[hoary vapor]

I don’t think I even have a trauma staff

Like, a good one I mean

[dapper flame]

its a frontline staff build so positioning wise you play it pretty similar to melee

[hoary vapor]

FIIINE ill try it…

nerds

[dapper flame]

lol

play the game how you want lol

[rancid geyser]

no

[hoary vapor]

Are the blessings like

[rancid geyser]

do what ppl tell you so you can ruin the game for yourself

[hoary vapor]

Similar to other staves

Just peril stuff

[dapper flame]

who cares about meta this do that

[hoary vapor]

I love my high peril

Scrier gaze 100% for 60000 seconds

[dapper flame]

you should be playing high peril anyways even on staff builds

[buoyant maple]

blazing spirit + warp nexus
or
rending shockwave + warp flurry

[hoary vapor]

I actually ruined the game for myself before people even told me how to

I somehow accidentally kept using meta stuff

[rancid geyser]

wow, how?!

[hoary vapor]

Like power sword and plasma gun

[rancid geyser]

eeeh, but using a weapon doesnt really push you to the meta imo

[hoary vapor]

Well

[rancid geyser]

P.Sword IS peak though

so i can't blame you

[hoary vapor]

I feel like other than lacking kraks my veteran ended up pretty close to meta

Only my plasma gun blessings were kinda bad

[rancid geyser]

in all fairness Plasma has had several different blessing combos claimed to have been the meta picks for it

[hoary vapor]

My psyker is a bit different though

I ended up being a knife melee scrier gaze psyker

With distupt destiny I run fast

And I like running fast

It feels fun.

But then I got told knife was meta

So whatever I give up

At least I didn’t end up on ds I guess

[dapper flame]

you can move really fast with trauma if you do the swap knife -> slide -> swap -> charge staff -> slide -> blast -> repeat: you lose almost no momentum and are basically immune to gunners

you can replace blasting with a tap quell so you never have to stop

[rancid geyser]

tf is that?! you on a Bop-it?

[dapper flame]

its easier than it sounds

[hoary vapor]

It sounds awful

How many fingers do you have

[dapper flame]

10

[hoary vapor]

Per hand ?

[icy breach]

No; its good as it is

[hoary vapor]

Battle royale

[rancid geyser]

fight me

[rancid geyser]

fight me

[hoary vapor]

What’s be

Br

[dapper flame]

i dont really understand why people make out these combos to be that bad when melee combos are more annoying imo

[rancid geyser]

BR feels like shite

[jovial juniper]

20

[hoary vapor]

I can’t believe I’m not gonna carried by uncanny now

[icy breach]

I can show you how busted BR can be

[hoary vapor]

I don’t know what to do now….

[dapper flame]

at least these are just button presses on seperate buttons and i dont have to vary the amount of time i press buttons

[rancid geyser]

KF im fine with someone saying it's good took a while for KF to be good

[hoary vapor]

I will have to not be too damage anymore

[fresh panther]

It's three buttons lol

[rancid geyser]

BR is pain and bad choices

[fresh panther]

Swap, crouch, and alt attack

[dapper flame]

yeah its not that bad

[icy breach]

You REALLY should see my build then

[rancid geyser]

clip it

[icy breach]

[rancid geyser]

I better see more than 1 zap per 2 seconds

[icy breach]

I’m yet to write a guide on it…
https://youtu.be/tVC5CaGOnFY

[icy breach]

You know thats almost impossible right?

[rancid geyser]

okay see, this is what upsets me

EP is neccessary for BR and Smite

lmao

but the cast time legit does not look as insufferable when using that keystone

[icy breach]

Kinetic Resonance
Ever heard of that?

[verbal thistle]

Rinda boop moment

[rancid geyser]

that should just be built into BR minus needing to use your combat ability

they an even nerf the cast speed

but i don't think that requiring a point is healthy for it's existence

[icy breach]

Ability usage is not an issue

[dapper flame]

im not the trauma staff user on my team so im really bad and slow at it, but this is my first attempt.

[spice aurora]

That boop made me lose like a 15 min solo it didnt make shield spawn in sound and just ran me into an overhead

😩

[icy breach]

0.88s cast time with resonance & EP
0.62s if you use speed stimm on top

[spice aurora]

With rot changes maybe ill try dclaw for solo instead lmao

[rancid geyser]

this i knew of, I just rather not catch carpal's again from playing this game XD

[spice aurora]

I love those moments, game turns into souls game for a few sec xD

[icy breach]

Anyone who shits on BR has no idea how busted it is when built proper
Its a monster; you can literally play like WS vet but instead of melee you use your blitz

[spice aurora]

wuts br

[icy breach]

There is a reason this build is alive

[dapper flame]

br is crazy and i think its the best of psykers 3 blitzes

[rancid geyser]

nonono, BR still ass because of the points investment 🙁

[kind jay]

brain rupture

or brazil

[rancid geyser]

not because you can't use it to good effect, just the point investment

[spice aurora]

i nvr use my blitz xd

[dapper flame]

^^

[rancid geyser]

thus is why KF is great

[dapper flame]

br is the only one with a passive use so its the best

with kf yeah

[rancid geyser]

smite stares at you from the corner

[dapper flame]

i hate smite i think its cope

oh i forgot about the heavy attack

[icy breach]

Best overall boss dmg option for psyker btw
I can’t recall how many times i had second most boss dmg on the team (with a proper boss killer mind you); all BR
Not to mention how good its for killing elites you would take longer to kill with your staff/melee

[rancid geyser]

both upgrades XD

[dapper flame]

i still think its cope

[spice aurora]

i got no points to spare sah

[rancid geyser]

FGS

[icy breach]

Don’t forget; with EP the KF gets stronger too without using a stack

[icy breach]

Too risky

[rancid geyser]

and i think FGS is clunky but I am almost certain FGS is the best tool for killing bosses

[buoyant maple]

best is vraks 5 IAG

6s for 60k unyielding

[rancid geyser]

das my favorite gun, so i believe it

it's what i use to kill bosses with on vet XD

[buoyant maple]

in terms of boss dps the best is pretty much always

[verbal thistle]

@ripe obsidian

[buoyant maple]

just that 1 gun

[verbal thistle]

do you have your peril mod?

does it work for solo play?

[dapper flame]

yeah, but i mainly play staff/shriek and warp siphon feels more worth it to me than EP does. im not actually building into br, its just nice extra free damage when im blowing stuff up with staves

[rancid geyser]

yeah, i was always a fan of this gun

[wintry patio]

I've always liked that KF works on force sword block push

[dapper flame]

vraks iag is a lot of fun, back when i was bad at the game and didnt know what i was doing i loved running piety zealot with the iag

[rancid geyser]

be happy you are using the new rendition of it

it use to zap any enemy you hit

including chaff

and iirc it use to build peril too

[icy breach]

It was dogshit

[wintry patio]

yeah, dark days

[icy breach]

Then they removed the chaf targeting and was still dogshit for 1 reason

Poxbursters

[wintry patio]

still kind of funny it doesn't proc on bosses/abominations either

[rancid geyser]

this shit use to make me rage

[dapper flame]

i thought it does now

[icy breach]

I lost games due to that

[rancid geyser]

it does activate on bosses

its all bosses, elites and specials except pox bursters me thinks

you can always see the zap on a boss' weakspot

[kind jay]

can see it, hear it, and watch the health bar get chunked

[icy breach]

Yes they removed poxbursters from the pool of targets and now its good

[wintry patio]

nice, must have missed that change

[fresh panther]

Same lol

[sturdy reef]

So that was the reasoning

[verbal thistle]

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[verbal thistle]

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[jovial juniper]

Ouch

Brain hurty

[rancid geyser]

thing is iunderstanding how patching works they didnt have to wait

[rancid geyser]

could have shipped a change and revert part of it

because patching allows this

[rancid geyser]

revert, split and ship

[sturdy reef]

They still can post patch

But I think SB shoulda been untouched if not nerfed

[rancid geyser]

makes it seem like they genuinely didnt care about it and only mention it so they look like it was being considered 🙂

they again, do not play the game to begin with

[autumn smelt]

Everyone does

[jovial juniper]

Except Fatshark

And Fatshark knows what they are doing

So y'all wrong

[main crow]

Like I get the logic, but it’s also inferno staff so

[crisp ether]

I don't because its good against literally everything else already.

It doesn't have to be good against crushers. Just bring something that can deal with em. Should be fine since the spawns are being adjusted lower too.

[spice aurora]

buff crushers, make their non-overheads do literally anything

i didnt know til 2000 hrs in that crushers had a punch
and ive been downed once in 2500 hrs by their weird push thing, otherwise it just misses even if im on them xD

[rancid geyser]

yeah, they have a kick and shove

but that's been a thing since forever ago lmao

before they never lived long enough for you to see the animation

now you are never close enough for long enough to see the animation

[dire wharf]

They can punch?

[rancid geyser]

it's a little shove, i dont think they ever actually swing their fists

they have an over-head, moving over-head, Kick and Side-swipe/shove

[thorn cedar]

theyve got a backhand bitch slap

a forward kick

a downsmack

they shoulder throw their weapon too sometimes instead of doing a full overhead

might be mistaking one of those attacks for a Mauler move tho

[jovial juniper]

They got it all

Except a sweeping kicking

Or a headbutt

[thorn cedar]

no scissor kick

not even a single rising dragon

[jovial juniper]

Nor even a fancy capoeira kick

[main crow]

Got it, buff crushers and then buff inferno staff to compensate

[glacial field]

yppp

yo guys

how does the new chances shake up options?

[jovial juniper]

Lowkey it might not change

[glacial field]

rly?

[fathom adder]

Weapons with Uncanny might actually run different blessings and maybe even have to actually think about ADMs again

[glacial field]

the rending chame

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

You can cap out on brittleness with 2 weakspot hits

It might low-key not change much

[cosmic sigil]

Obscurussy stonks up

[buoyant maple]

did u rly have to put it that way

[thorn cedar]

blocked

[jovial juniper]

Obscurus do be following the "beware of who you called ugly at school" trend

[fathom adder]

'member when Obscurus was the only Force Sword and had infinite dodges built right in

[thorn cedar]

yea i do

i never really cared for the moveset but its all we had

infinite dodges was certainly a choice

[dire wharf]

For mobile checkout puffco core

[fathom adder]

Kerillian's 1H sword in VT2 had infinite dodges and I still hardly ever saw anyone use it

[fresh panther]

Thanks, I'll have a look! Would probably be cool to take something more portable with me to social events where I know people have shitty dab setups haha

[dusky crag]

I spent wy too long trying to read this lololol

[thorn cedar]

cause it was not particularly good

blocking was just the better resource for the most part

[kind jay]

infinite dodge obscurus was sexy

it was the era of crabwalking

and you could outcrab people who were sprinting

[thorn cedar]

i think that mightve only been the deimos

but its been a while

[cosmic sigil]

It was the deimos

In 2023

[pastel zodiac]

How negative of an impact do you guys think the alternation to Uncanny Strike will have on the performance of Force Swords? Should I be prepared to swap that blessing out for another and if so, what are some good alternatives?

[polar flower]

Yall got any good soul-fire heavy builds?

[jovial juniper]

Unlikely

Also

No really good alternative

You could try something like

[thorn cedar]

superiority

pretty good

[jovial juniper]

Riposte/Shred+Precognition

Or Slaughterer Superiority

But uncanny will still be too good

[thorn cedar]

for deimos ill probably be taking it off

actually certainly

not a lot survives L1H2 more than like two or three cycles at most at the highest difficulty

[analog island]

Purge staff buff yay!

[hoary vapor]

cant believe uncanny got shot

[rancid geyser]

should have been touched over a year ago

[hoary vapor]

but my knife build,,,,

[thorn cedar]

we knew it was fucked up since launch

[hoary vapor]

honestly if i end up doing bad after the nerf

i will cry

[rancid geyser]

you will just have to try a bit harder

[rich spindle]

@verbal thistle YOU MUST GET THE SOLO BEFORE ROT CHANGES

[thorn cedar]

no sleep til they done

get the handcuffs

[verbal thistle]

I'm trying

[hoary vapor]

im scared of finding out im ass...

[verbal thistle]

Had a good run this morning

But failed right before end event because I had to pause

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-glaze-satisfying-gif-13180530

you got this goat

you have my full glaze

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-no-limit-to-the-glaze-flight-riding-ftc-glazed-donut-gif-13467296479651443764

[rich spindle]

daaaamn

[royal falcon]

im going to explode

[dusk timber]

lol

lmao

[sage plaza]

I think I might know the answer but still,
we allowed to post screenshots of players who've proven to be shitbags?

*in-game profile from the social menu

Ah, nvm, his steam profile says he's from Quebec. I don't need to huimiliate him more than he already is.

[rich spindle]

It’ll prob get removed for harassment if mod sees it

[lone ravine]

7. Do not instigate or engage in witch hunts. Do not name and shame, even if you feel wronged.

yea itll get deleted

[sage plaza]

ok thx

The funniest part is, someone else already gave him the clown community award. It's right on his profile.
Known shitter.

[rich spindle]

I have like 8 of those for making people mad in tf2

[barren arrow]

what manner of beast were you

trolldier? demoknight?

spy...

[rich spindle]

play badwater 24/7 and know every single stickytrap spot, do nothing but sit on them and taunt when I get people with them

[rancid geyser]

YIKES

[urban meteor]

Just found out

Green shadow fight shadow = l4d2 witch on crack

[jovial juniper]

I understood that

[deft stump]

Just get a good Zealot to crown her.

[hidden willow]

21 chaos spawn? but only 1 burgle and 1 plague ogryn?

[jovial juniper]

Bon and plogryn are easy