psyker-class

[icy breach]

Thats an option too but slower elite kill

[wind spruce]

Its fun with scriers warp siphon and quell/peril resist talents

[dusk timber]

Furry bazing

[icy breach]

Its just sad that trauma is like… the worst staff for crits and has a blazing build

[icy breach]

I use peril resist too for flurry rending
Also i do not use siphons; i use EP

[wind spruce]

Just need a crate scum

Dont move your ass away from me you crackhead

Your literally only good for the 20% crit

And attack speed

67.5% crit with a crate scum is pretty goated tho

Thats guaranteed crit every 2nd blast

[icy breach]

Statistically

[wind spruce]

No

Literally guaranteed

[icy breach]

Thats not how crits work mah guy

[wind spruce]

https://observablehq.com/@manuelblanc/pseudo-random-distribution

It is tho

[icy breach]

Yeah: statistically

[wind spruce]

Prepare your brain to be broken

No...

Darktide uses pseudo-rando distro

[earnest furnace]

Dont weapons also have their own crit stat? Like how the las pistol has a defaukt 15% crit rate

[icy breach]

Its not ‚i don’t crit now so next att will crit 100%’ type shit

[wind spruce]

Not actual random distro

[wind spruce]

It literally is

[deft stump]

If so, it doesn't apply to me.

[wind spruce]

Yes that crit gets added on top

[thorn cedar]

true aim all you need

[deft stump]

I did a 32 throws before 20% proc last expedition.

I avg 16 throws per 20%.

[dusk timber]

Big if true

[deft stump]

I'm just really unlucky in games.

[earnest furnace]

I just asume it to be like a counter, so 75% crit for example.
First hit goes to 75/100, no crit.
2nd hit is at 150/100, so crit and 100 get cut, so it becomes 50/100 after the hit again.

[deft stump]

If it ain't at least 50%, I can't count on it.

[earnest furnace]

What i asume is not at all how it actually works. But id like to belief it is :)

[wind spruce]

Sort of but the math is more complicated than that

[earnest furnace]

Wait fr?

[deft stump]

I mean, it just means I'm more unlucky than I think.

[earnest furnace]

If its statistical it means its impossible to never get crits

[thorn cedar]

It's just weighted to the user's benefit so that you don't find yourself in a situation with 33% crit but you don't crit after fifteen swings type shit.

Which statistically is possible even if unlikely but for a video game is not particularly fun.

[wind spruce]

#hivescum-class message @icy breach

[deft stump]

I know, going 57 throws before a single twin is unfun.

[thorn cedar]

yea it is not lmao

[wind spruce]

Go look at the calculator i linked

[thorn cedar]

also why like league of legends got rid of dodge ages ago

sometimes the dude with 10% dodge dodges thirty attacks in a row

you cant really balance that

[deft stump]

Don't remind me. 99% evasion, gets first hit crit bashed.

[earnest furnace]

Ah yes, the abyss.
Im gratefull i escaped it

[icy breach]

Pretty good
Still worse than flurry rending cause blazing only stacks to 6 & venting shriek stacks up to 6 so they counter play eachother to a certain degree

[deft stump]

1% to hit, 17% to bash, 15% to crit.

[thorn cedar]

just dont use shriek

ez

[wind spruce]

Fk

Kms

[thorn cedar]

i just do true aim honestly

with scriers

[icy breach]

Yeah its a nice option

[thorn cedar]

poke five heads, swap to staff, right click

pretty simple

[earnest furnace]

How high can soul blaze actually stack?

[thorn cedar]

31

[wind spruce]

To the moon baby

[icy breach]

Use assail; those go for heads

[earnest furnace]

Damn. But shriek and some other cant stack that high?

[thorn cedar]

not reliably

[deft stump]

Need to aim to a degree.

Or they fly around.

[thorn cedar]

i wish right click ALWAYS hit the head

[wind spruce]

Rip assail proccing true aim multiple times per cast

[thorn cedar]

but they do not

oh man that was so good

but also true aim proccing multiple times per melee swing

it was kinda much

[wind spruce]

So good

Fun interactions

[earnest furnace]

I forgot the name, but the talent that gives you 1 guaranteed crit with weakspot hits + assail. Then a bolt pistol with maxed out crit damage/weakspot damage

[wind spruce]

Thats true aim

[earnest furnace]

Yhea

[thorn cedar]

ngl true aim is mostly not great

[earnest furnace]

True aim with assail and a bolter go hard

[thorn cedar]

it just has niche application

[earnest furnace]

[thorn cedar]

guaranteed trauma fire crits is a good one

[wind spruce]

Shriek and perilous can get to 31

[thorn cedar]

maximizing empathic evasion uptime on automatics is another

[wind spruce]

Inferno 16

Blazing ranged 6

Blazing melee 12

[thorn cedar]

otherwise its meh, getting one guaranteed crit on ranged every five attacks is not that impressive

[wind spruce]

Wildfire 4

[thorn cedar]

compare that to veteran wepspec

[earnest furnace]

Well assail will always aim for the head, and it penetrates so one shard could get 2-3 hits for true aim

[wind spruce]

Plus if you already have, say, 25% crit its reducing the effectiveness of true aim by 1/4

[thorn cedar]

assail always TRIES

i would wager its actual headshot ratio hovers below 50%

(but very close)

the more you use the right click the better it is for headshots

[earnest furnace]

I wish assail got some more viability in higher difficilulties :(

[wind spruce]

It is viable

Very viable

[thorn cedar]

quite

[wind spruce]

Kinetic flayer is just too good

Because it requires zero investment

[thorn cedar]

ah yes the cookie clicker psyker build
bubble
flame staff
flayer

[earnest furnace]

I rarely see psykers use it anymore at damnation or auric (much less havoc)

[wind spruce]

Grey matter build

[thorn cedar]

"yea im really good at darktide"
-doesnt engage with any of the game-

(im only being somewhat facetious)

[wind spruce]

Its incredibly powerful in the right hands (and high apm, ideally adderral fuelled)

[thorn cedar]

yeah assail's strength scales exponentionally with your ADHD diagnoses

[wind spruce]

Its the worst thing ever

[earnest furnace]

Fuck it, once i get back from work im gonna go and try make a good assail build, seer's best blitz voicelines are for assail

[wind spruce]

Oooh im shooting blue flames im so cool

Shut up nerd

[earnest furnace]

"Mad cackling"

[wind spruce]

(Im not mad)

[earnest furnace]

Im autistic, does that count?

[wind spruce]

Scriers, DD, las pistol

Try and swap between your three weapons as much as possible

Stab mutant, pop two assails out, shoot a flamer, two assails, bonk a mauler

All in 3s

[earnest furnace]

Whats the DD again?

[thorn cedar]

deez duts

[wind spruce]

Disrupt destiny

[earnest furnace]

Big fan of the bolt pistol, would that work too or is the low magazine capacity gonna be a problem?

[wind spruce]

Its fine

Quick swap time is what matters for adhd psyker

[earnest furnace]

Thats kinda how my current assail build works, but i pull out the gun purely for the DD procs and far away specialists

Does struggle a bit against crusher waves. Im gonna miss smite's heavy attack DoT

[thorn cedar]

bistol lacks capacity

clunky to reload

i do like it but not for psyker

[earnest furnace]

Understandable. But i just prefer bistol's stagger alot more. It also tends to oneshot specialists more consistently, even on a body hit

[thorn cedar]

youll find laspee will do specials just fine

assail staggers surprisingly hard

[earnest furnace]

A miss with the bistol will ussually still stagger or knock over the target so i can focus on other things for a second

[thorn cedar]

ragers notably do get stopped midcombo by a shard

[earnest furnace]

Only the dregs or also the scabs?

[thorn cedar]

both

assail does kinda suck against scab ragers cause of their carapace body but for dreg it almost does all the work for you

it will still at least stagger

[wind spruce]

As long as you're taking these essentially mandatory 25 nodes for aggressive melee gunker you're pretty golden

[earnest furnace]

Hmm, is the 2nd note on DD a preference or recomendation?

[wind spruce]

True aim instead of kd or other side of dd is fine

[cosmic cobalt]

warp unbound is preference

true aim is uh

kinda ass

[thorn cedar]

no mind in motion, ignore this faker

[wind spruce]

@thorn cedar will cry if we say that

That was meant to be in reply to @cosmic cobalt

[thorn cedar]

im confused

[cosmic cobalt]

oh dd assail

[earnest furnace]

If true aim also gave like 50% extra damage or sum for that one hit it would be alot nicer

[wind spruce]

True aim

[cosmic cobalt]

just use 25 stack dd

[thorn cedar]

oh

yea nah you can pass true aim

its really not crucial

lets pretend a ranged crit doubles your damage and you use it every single time it hits five stacks without missing

[wind spruce]

Skip MiM too tho

[thorn cedar]

thats 20% extra damage on average

but thats not how itll play out

[wind spruce]

Ok nerds

I can barely see now

[thorn cedar]

quik maffs

[wind spruce]

Meds

Brrr

[thorn cedar]

i need cooooffee

[earnest furnace]

I see true aim more as a tool make killing out-of-melee specalists/elites mid horde more consistend

[wind spruce]

Goodnight love you all except @pale prairie

[cosmic cobalt]

assuming assail focused build

[thorn cedar]

mine's in the pins

[wind spruce]

EE instead of immaterial but yes

[cosmic cobalt]

assail doesn't have the best crit chance

oh im stupid gaze

anyway still

[wind spruce]

Yeah but 37 5% in scriers + it spams + gun + melee

Still worth for adhd gunker

All about engaging with gun/melee + assail at the same time

[cosmic cobalt]

i wouldn't use warp unbound and assail subnode outside assail focused

[wind spruce]

If im running gunker im weaving assail

[cosmic cobalt]

this is what i use on gunker

fgs + laspistol

[thorn cedar]

i dont think warp unbound is necessary until like

havoc 30ish

[cosmic cobalt]

assail is only for proc mim for non warp damage

[wind spruce]

Warp unbound is just comfy

[thorn cedar]

oh very

[cosmic cobalt]

anyway

[wind spruce]

I hate having to gatekeep my assails during scriers bc i might lose track of my rate of peril gain with the 13 things im monitoring at once

[cosmic cobalt]

just quell tap

take less than 1 second

same if you need to do warp slice

[wind spruce]

Like shit i had to avoid 3 specials at once and slide + block

[thorn cedar]

mind in motion bby

[wind spruce]

And now i have to quell tap to cast assail?!

Just run warp unbound since it pops off anyway

[cosmic cobalt]

no you don't need to

just wait until you're out of crit peril

[wind spruce]

No i need to assail now

Your waiting

Im assailing

[cosmic cobalt]

just pull out your ranged

[wind spruce]

I am

[cosmic cobalt]

if you need something to die when at crit peril at range

(laspistol)

[icy breach]

No soulstealer

[wind spruce]

But theres 7 dispersed specials 4 ragers and horde mobs in the way cy

We need firepower

[steel flame]

WHY HAVE I BEEN SUMMONED!?

[cosmic cobalt]

then warp slice lol

liberally

if you to kill something behind thick as fuck horde

[wind spruce]

Haha or just run the talent you'd run for an assail build that doesnt even really focus on assail more

It gives you flexibility

Ok actual bed time now good chats

[cosmic cobalt]

it's like evening for you

apac ass

[thorn cedar]

byeee

[dusk timber]

Gn

[wind spruce]

9:46pm

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/remilia-scarlet-touhou-good-morning-have-a-great-day-picmix-gif-120881197732977925

[wind spruce]

Past uncs bedtime

[steel flame]

Eh, soulstealer was just kinda overkill so I used that point elsewhere. Dying in a horde is never what is going to kill you with that build. It's either one shots, a ledge, or a silent ass gunner standing directly behind you

[icy breach]

Yeah; ranged units… suddenly 0 toughness
Shooters mind you; 1 is enough and lo & behold; can’t restore faster your toughness
Not running soulstealer on a primarily warp-based build is a pepega move (this one is a mix cause no scriers)
Seen too many ppl die cause of it
Survivability is never an overkill
Also; it affects your warp slice & your blitz & soulblaze

[steel flame]

Can always run the build yourself and find out

[dusk timber]

The fuck

[icy breach]

It was just posted mah guy

[dusk timber]

Why did it double send

And then it removed both

[icy breach]

I saw others do; thats enough

[icy breach]

Discord connection?

[dusk timber]

No it showed the message had duplicated

[icy breach]

Weird

[dusk timber]

And then i tried to delete one but it removed both

[cosmic cobalt]

dementia

[icy breach]

Buff ilas
More like
Buff memory

But ye; discord likes to fk around…

I had similar experience

[steel flame]

Lol

Just posted xP

[icy breach]

Ok weirdly to me it shows its from 1.1.2026

[steel flame]

Teehee

[cosmic cobalt]

dementia

[icy breach]

You live in the past
I like in the past… but more present

[dusk timber]

Prob timezone

It also shows to me as 31st december

[marble crater]

Timezones ain't real

[icy breach]

MAN

[icy breach]

NA east is tho…

[steel flame]

It's refreshing honestly. Most people just soy face and point at "no capstone"

[icy breach]

Melee psyker can go without it yes

[steel flame]

But but but.....no capstone

[icy breach]

Shut it weirdo

[steel flame]

Lol

[icy breach]

Love that oggy quote

[deft stump]

12 hours behind.

[barren arrow]

on the what now

[icy breach]

Its not a gunker if its a las pistol tho
Recon or inf auto

[cosmic cobalt]

what bro mean by this

[icy breach]

That what you showed is a melee psyker

[barren arrow]

it is if you use melee :)

[deft stump]

But but but, papa, some ppl just shoot it very fast.

[barren arrow]

And some application of soulblaze helps too, since dealing damage to your DD target refreshes the cooldown
So if you have a horde taking minimal soulblaze damage, you will pretty much never end up losing stacks

[dusk timber]

Pspa

[cosmic cobalt]

the problem with dd is not uptime

[deft stump]

Look, typing on phone is annoying as well when it picks up wrong characters.

[barren arrow]

this is why i do not do this

[marble crater]

Just pick the right characters, smh

[deft stump]

Sometimes, you have no choice when you are outside and on the go.

[barren arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/lenovo-lenovo-thinkpad-lenovo-thinkpad-t-series-thinkpad-thinkpad-l-series-gif-14572225667388870177

tinkpad

[dusk timber]

Plinkpad

[deft stump]

That's 4-5 times the price of a phone.

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/wide-cat-wider-gif-3879805434184283975

[barren arrow]

if you are a creature who buys things new maybe

[dusk timber]

Im also pretty sure it cant fit on someone's pocket

[barren arrow]

This statement is potentially true

[dusk timber]

I could be wrong tho

[barren arrow]

i got a x2 yoga for $200 cad

8gb ram, win 11, touchscreen w/ pen, 1440x2160

[deft stump]

Is true, unless you are telling me a laptop is smaller than a phone+battery pack.

[barren arrow]

i feel like i am lacking a convenient laptop carrier for sure 😔

[deft stump]

Well, considering I'm out buying groceries... Don't think is a good idea to put it in the same bag as frozen meats and fish.

[barren arrow]

that said, this was also an insane deal, but the others were only around $50~ more

[barren arrow]

have you tried swipe typing

sometimes it is a winner

[deft stump]

Yes, but it is 50/50 if it gives me the right word or something silly.

[barren arrow]

this statement is true

[deft stump]

Like it can work. If you want, can use it cos Microsoft keyboard has it.

[barren arrow]

some phones are really good about determining what you're trying to say by actually adding words that you type out over time to its dictionary, i think my pixel was like that

[deft stump]

But typo checking is fairly annoying.

As you can tell.

Yeah... Not working out.

[barren arrow]

why would the phone ever believe me swearing is a typo

this is how i determine i need to change the keyboard 😔

[deft stump]

I'm literally fighting the keyboard to fix typos.

Going back to the standard Samsung keyboad.

[icy breach]

Still not a gunker

[thorn cedar]

its a gun

therefore gunker

[deft stump]

I mean, if they use it more than sword...

[icy breach]

STILL not a gunker

No rapid fire ranged = meleeker
Rapid fire ranged = gunker
Ez
So if gunker = bruhautos, recons, infautos
Rest is a meleeker (unless staffs)

[thorn cedar]

gun = gunker

its very simple

this predates trees

(not skill trees, no, actual trees on earth)

[deft stump]

Some ppl will say Full Auto soon.

[thorn cedar]

(im old)

[icy breach]

Nah boi; gunker = build relies mostly on range to do dmg, usualy full auto weapons
I’ve been called a ‚gunker’ on a build that uses a bolt pistol despite using smite majority of the time & bolty was used only for specials & scattered range units

[thorn cedar]

thats cause gun = gunker

[icy breach]

Definitions evolve

[thorn cedar]

it really is that shrimple

[icy breach]

Then every melee psyker = gunker which is not true cause they mostly melee & some even use a staff

[icy breach]

Nah; update yourself

[thorn cedar]

if you have a gun

you're a gunker

it is not about utilization percentages

it is about not having a staff

[deft stump]

Well, it would kinda depend if they shoot or melee more.

Whatever the gun is.

[icy breach]

Girl gets it
Boi does not

[deft stump]

If they totally wanna laspistol pew pew, well, bugged survivalist enables it.

[icy breach]

Bugged?

[deft stump]

No CD when procced by allies.

Everyone but the vet is perma white ammo.

[icy breach]

Unless shoots all the time

[deft stump]

Unless there's a bot and you have an efficient gun.

So 0.75% ammo per elite/special kill.

[deft stump]

Oh, if a gun is efficient enough, still perma white.

Or low enough diff to kill within 1% ammo.

[dusk timber]

Why not the vet as well?

Doesnt everyone in the team get ammo when it procs?

[deft stump]

If vet kills, it goes on cd.

Lmao.

Fatshark.

[dusk timber]

I mean doesnt the vet get ammo from the procs from teammates

[deft stump]

If they don't shoot elites/specials, yes.

So useless vet that shoots only chaff, sure.

[dusk timber]

So procs from teammates while the cooldown is up dont give you ammo?

[deft stump]

Not sure, but I know I use more ammo (or end with less) if I'm forced to shoot more elites/specials than when someone is doing it while I whack and blam hordes of gribblies for lul.

I have more ammo only shooting into chaff hordes than I do focusing on elites/specials.

So, I would assume so?

You could find someone to test it with.

[thorn cedar]

All I know is that right now if there's a Vet on my team I basically have infinite ammo

[deft stump]

Which is why I think ppl that notice the bug leave ammo pickups for the vet.

[plucky flax]

Nice cheat

[thorn cedar]

yea cheaters

disgusting

ive gone to my local knickknack shop almost daily for a month now and they still dont have a damn backscratcher

i just want a backscratcherrr

[plucky flax]

No one should have infinite ammo after they took away scums infinite ammo

[thorn cedar]

nobody should have infinite ammo period -stares at psykers-

[plucky flax]

[thorn cedar]

its also wild to see it again

because like wow

this really was default survivalist for a long time

how was this ever acceptable lmao

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

Fatshark. I'm not even sure how they broke it.

Unless they were trying to do a reverse thing.

No cd for vet, cd for allies.

[thorn cedar]

nah just a bug

[deft stump]

But pushed the messed up version on to live.

[dusk timber]

The answer is spaghetti code

[deft stump]

Oh, they also broke the expedition valk ramp again.

[thorn cedar]

lets not forget that the survivalist cooldown was fatshark acquiescing from just deleting the aura all together

[dusk timber]

They were prob editing something else completely unrelated and yet it somehow reached survivalist

[thorn cedar]

many such cases

[deft stump]

I got stuck in it after the hotfix.

They fixed it, then proceeded to break it next patch.

Makes you think if they use AI on their code or are just hilariously incompetent at times.

[thorn cedar]

this is just coding in general

[deft stump]

I guess they just don't test their fix before making it live.

[thorn cedar]

lets be realistic

and hypothesize an example

you are making changes to the peril system

you make those changes in your test environment and you test them

they are functional

you move them to a closed live environment, and test them, and they are still functional

now you push it to live

suddenly survivalist breaks

why would you have been testing survivalist?

[deft stump]

And everyone knows that tests offline tend to lie ala psykhanium.

[thorn cedar]

and yes some stuff just actually breaks in the full live environment

once shit like latency from four different sources exists

[deft stump]

Is why games have a test server, same server code as live but 'private'.

[thorn cedar]

of course

[deft stump]

Play at your own risk.

[thorn cedar]

what im saying is, reading the last hotfix notes

NOTHING mentions touching the shit that broke

shit just breaks because coding can be messy and systems connect in weird unexpected ways

[deft stump]

But they could do stealth edits like they kinda do unless you look at actual file changes.

[thorn cedar]

my favourite being the half-life 2 devs discovering that updating their physics engine to 24 frame simulation hard bricked the ENTIRE GAME from the first level onward and required significant retooling to solve

you cant do stealth edits when you're on console, everything goes through a certification process.

even the hotfixes arent actually that hot

[deft stump]

To be fair, physics engines can literally break from high fps.

[thorn cedar]

its exceptionally rare that you can slip in a day-after solution

[deft stump]

In hilarious or gamebreaking ways.

[thorn cedar]

-stares at bethesda-

[deft stump]

In bed with M$?

[dense wolf]

[thorn cedar]

they still cant do physics right

[deft stump]

I mean, I see games where 30 fps boobas is normal and 120 fps is... uhh...

I don't think boobas can move like that.

[thorn cedar]

well whats funny for my half-life 2 example is that the actual physics simulation was not the problem

the problem was the 'cut scenes', sections where you are not in combat but waiting on NPCs to execute animations

all of them worked perfectly in 8 or 12 frame simulations

but once they increased the rate they almost all broke

[dusk timber]

Are you some kind of expert?

[deft stump]

So the problem with Saints Row 2 on faster/stronger hardware?

[thorn cedar]

so they had to manually adjust all of those sections to fix the game

but they never tested that initially

so they had launched the game completely fucking broken

you legit couldnt leave the train station because a door would clip onto a combine soldier's foot while opening

low simulation = door doesnt update when it touches his foot

high sim = it registers and now doesnt open

but why would you be testing animation sections when it was the game physics you fucked with?

and we're talking valve, like the gold standard for game quality in 2004, at their peak

shit just happens man

[deft stump]

Because animations use physics as well on some level.

Unless prebaked cutscenes that are actually just .wavs.

Or whatever they use for video files.

[dusk timber]

Looking at it with hindsight sure

[thorn cedar]

cause yeah its really not that obvious

and in the simulated playgrounds and the physics puzzles everything works

gravity gun? working

DOG throwing shit around? working

lamar jumping into a pipe? uh oh

and youre gonna what, run through an entire game front to back testing every interaction every time you make a code adjustment?

[deft stump]

Tiny toothless headcrab more dangerous lul.

[thorn cedar]

you're just gonna test the stuff that's immediately obviously

maybe test some ancillary things that are related

and then the rest you hope

nothing in the hotfix mentions touching veteran auras and yet it broke anyway

welcome to scripting

[deft stump]

Well, at least test the whole game once before release. Like a single playthrough, easier on a linear game.

[thorn cedar]

oh no this was way after launch

this was for the XBox release, i think?

and again it DID launch

the game hit shelves and it was actually unplayable

and nobody noticed

because why would you bother checking to see if a door in the first level still opens when you didnt touch that shit

[deft stump]

Why, did nobody actually play it once through?

[thorn cedar]

of coruse they did

[dusk timber]

Coruse

[thorn cedar]

and then they released the new physics simualtion which was a separate production

welcome to game design

its not that fucking simple lmao

[deft stump]

Yeah, meant that version on a standard non-dev Xbox.

[thorn cedar]

you're asking why your mechanic didnt bother testing the radio after he realigned your tires

[deft stump]

I kinda would expect QA to notice... but then again... shouldn't expect much when they care more for visuals.

Got fired for being too insistent over actual gameplay bugs and issues.

Instead of things that make the game slightly visually sketch or iffy UI stuff that technically still works.

[thorn cedar]

lmao

team got a bit split during midobj

im watching our psyker backpeddle against eight bulwarks (indomitable mod)

his fire staff licks against a shotgunner who wasnt even aggrod against them yet

and thats where his KF procs

emperor really had his back there

[deft stump]

And snowballs?

[thorn cedar]

no snowballs

aw man

i waited til now to have brunch at my fave burger spot

but they are opening much later today ;_;

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-rolling-snowball-out-of-control-oops-disaster-gif-13819154

[jovial juniper]

Lmao

[kind jay]

eat brunch elsewhere then have second brunch when it opens

[thorn cedar]

im genuinely stubborn enough that i might just sit here and starve until they open

in five hours

the burgers are also that good

[kind jay]

i can't imagine waiting 5 hours for food but also I'm a fatass

[thorn cedar]

lmao

but hunger is the best spice

[white sky]

I've waited 2 hours for food before

Got a tattoo in the downtime

[thorn cedar]

i have no tattoos

this makes me a freak in the modern day

[white sky]

Not for everyone

I do like them tho and think everyone should have one lol

[dire wharf]

Ainz these videos of you soloing h40 are crazy

Wolfer: "it's just one snowball, wtf are you all doing!"

[verbal thistle]

They are very fun

[verbal thistle]

"So we sent down, what, at least seven squads to that sand pit because we haven't heard back from the first loyalist sighting. That was an hour ago. What's been going on?"
"Well, ma'am, you're not going to like this... preliminary reports suggest there's a single loyalist down there absolutely wiping the floor with us."
"....I'm sorry, a single loyalist squad takes on seven of ours?"
"No ma'am, not a squad, a single lunatic who keeps shouting about how much she loves the Emperor."
"....ONE? A SINGLE ONE PERSON? SINGULAR, ONE, PERSON? We've sent a dozen of our most heavily armoured Ogryns down there!"
"... uh, by my count, about 60 Ogryns."
"We've lost 60 Ogryns?!"
"Oh, no, ma'am, just 60 of the most armoured ones...."
"...so in total?"
"...estimates are about 200 right now."
"...Is there anything to suggest we might be on the wrong side in this conflict...?"

[thorn cedar]

my beloved says you should all be much nicer to me

[rancid geyser]

nah, they look cool but then again is scary knowing that you can stain your body with something you might not want down the line

pretty normal

[hoary vapor]

It’s fine ill carry you

[fluid knot]

Much like a puppy or a child, you better be damn sure thats what you want before you get one

[thorn cedar]

yep and ive never been that sure about anything in my life that wasn't actually just horrible addiction

[rich spindle]

I’ll get a tattoo of Ainzs psyker if he gets the rot solo

[fluid knot]

Well, you're not the only one

Only I got mine done when I was 15 an now it makes me look like an ex-con

[radiant frigate]

i guess i am also a freak

[dire wharf]

Javol

[kind jay]

i also have no tattoos but if i did get one it would be this bear pfp im using. my wife made this at my request back in 2013 so i could use it as a clan emblem in warframe. i ended up loving it so much i use it everywhere that lets me

[icy breach]

Same; i do not need to showcase everyone around me what i value/believe in ect.
Attention seeking behavior

[main crow]

Eh, tatoos are cool. Don’t have any myself though

[sinful perch]

Do y'all think smite is good to take for the occasional knock back during elite waves? Or should I just take assail instead to spam against ragers with sciers gaze

[main crow]

I prefer anything but smite personally. It’s a good tool to have if you’re using it sparingly tho.

[sinful perch]

I'm swapping off brain burst since I've realized I can kill enemies faster just using the electrostaff

And anytime I was really using it I would've been better just to throw a few electro shots out

[main crow]

Oh that makes things easier, use Assail to help with your horde clear

[sinful perch]

Ngl I'm doing fine with horde clear using the FGS it's just when there's waves of crushers and ragers that I start to have issues

I guess assail still would be good for the ragers though

[cosmic cobalt]

how do you have issue with crusher on fgs

[main crow]

Oh for rager swarms a mix of kinetic flayer and perilous combustion does the trick for me

Since EK lmb can stagger and you can also toss out the rmb to stagger 2 for longer

[jovial juniper]

Assail is going to be more responsive

Unless carapace is involved

[main crow]

I haven’t used Assail in a while, how is it without Gaze?

[fluid knot]

Lotta folks got non-visible tattoos mate

Infact thats probably the most common form of 'em

[icy breach]

Yeah; as they should imo
The moment i see tats in places you can’t cover with clothing (hands, face ect.) i know boi/girl should be approached with caution

[fluid knot]

Approach everyone with caution anyway You can't trust people, Willy, people like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis

[icy breach]

I always do
But you know what i mean

[fluid knot]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Though I can't say I'm apt at following that particularly well..

Always was a sucker for girls with a lot of visible ink

(No, its never worked out well)

[formal dew]

why?

just sounds like blatant prejudice to me

[icy breach]

its like those rainforest frogs; very colorful, vibrant & showcasy but dangerous; tats in places which you cannot cover at all and are always exposed is a sign of many potential negative traits; mainly rebelliousness, potential mental illness, innability/unwillingness to blend into society, willing to always stand out (peacock behavior) and more...

[icy breach]

nah boi; too many life examples showed how such... 'prejudice' is justified and (sadly) true

[formal dew]

so... Prejudice lol

confirmation bias is a bitch

[formal dew]

because I have a tattoo on my wrist, I am by your own admission
Arrogant
Mentally ill
Unstable
A "rebel"
and.. dangerous?

oh and attention seeking

[icy breach]

potentially yes; there is a reason ppl are reluctant with hiring such ppl in the first place too (image matters too)

[formal dew]

self respecting work places do not care about tattoos.

[loud girder]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-wells-fargo-typing-random-what-gif-16997881292387626053

[icy breach]

a mixed bag tbh; really depends on the job

[formal dew]

I am a CNC engineer, I'm covered in tattoos. My father is a parts and stock manager at a car showroom, one of my coworkers is apso covered in tats and he's been there for years

ngl I think you're talking out of your ass

[icy breach]

yeah laugh all you like; life taught me different stories i guess

[formal dew]

Like... you don't like tattoos. That's absolutely fine, a persons body is their temple

[loud girder]

judging people by their looks in the big 2026 is crazy

[formal dew]

but coming out with "if someone has visible tattoos, they're attention seeking, arrogant, mentally ill and dangerous" is a big stretch lol

what's the saying you get taught in school?

if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it

[clever cloud]

hahah got him my fellow redditors

[icy breach]

You may think that
yet you dunno from what background i came from nor what ppl i've met; surely i did met with alright ppl with tats (my uncle <3) but i also met with wrecks; both mental & physical ones with tats
Can't be a coincidence

[icy breach]

i said potentially; do put that in

[formal dew]

Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy didn't have a single tattoo

can't be a coincidence?

stupid logic lmao

[crisp ether]

Humanity be too nuanced to let tattoos be a designation of traits like that.

[formal dew]

It's just confirmation bias

[crisp ether]

Some of the nicest people I've known have a lot of tattoos

Just like some of the worst people I've never met have not a single one.

[formal dew]

" I saw a homeless guy with visible tattoos, therefore every person with tattoos must be a bum!" Type shit

same thing with the metal community

[clever cloud]

booooring zzzzz

[icy breach]

today most likely yes; tats are VERY popularized
but back when i was being raised up? in my country? at that time? Hell nah

[formal dew]

it's 2026

what passed in your childhood is not the case now

[icy breach]

yeah; as i said; today most likely it does not matter

[icy breach]

that may be but remember; ppl back then do live now too; they did not vanish

[formal dew]

What point are you trying to make here?

[icy breach]

me being careful is a byproduct of the past

[icy breach]

i mean its as plain as it can be; tats now are a commodity; before they were a very rebelious symbol

one could say to a degree they lost a lil bit of that edge they had

[formal dew]

rebellious meaning what? Punks?

sharps?

rude boys?

[icy breach]

like hell; even in kindergartens they give water tats as a fun activity

[formal dew]

yeah I don't see how this is an issue?

[icy breach]

oh yeah; one of many - my uncle was a proper punk

[formal dew]

nothing wrong with punk culture lol

[icy breach]

oh its not; not at all

[formal dew]

I don't get how you've managed to turn back on your own point of view

[icy breach]

i liked Biohazard band

Hardcore punk

[icy breach]

i didn't

[formal dew]

a minute ago you said that people with visible tattoos were potentially mentally ill, and attention seeking

Now you're saying that there's nothing wrong with tattoos?

[icy breach]

point still stands; you just gonna be observant & all

[formal dew]

someone having tattoos is not an indicator of their "danger" or personality

[icy breach]

there is a risk yes; atleats in my life i've met enough life examples to think that way

[formal dew]

I give up

you do you fella

[thorn cedar]

you only have to worry if their tattoo is a swastika

or an american flag

[icy breach]

don't; you took that way too seriously & personally - I don't hate tats (my uncle is covered in them & was making tats & i even helped him so...) but i'm aware that some ppl & their decisions reflect their personality

[thorn cedar]

thats why if i get a tattoo it wont be anywhere obvious and it wont be anything making a strong statement, just somethiing simple and pure and entirely about me
"BOY SLUT" on my lower back

[icy breach]

or like NSFW stuff; those exist too
or also some form of drugs

[formal dew]

You can tell a lot about people by what they wear and look like, the issue is that you only listed negative connotations

there wasn't a lot of nuance in your comment lol

[icy breach]

see; i did
the positives tho; there are equaly plenty
just put a negative first there & then it all went down like an avalanche

[formal dew]

Have to respect the commitment to waiting

[icy breach]

man i guess i'm a normie then LMAO
I don't dress to look... much... mostly practical ones; i don't wanna be cold or overheated

[formal dew]

I have a lot of showy stuff but also normal stuff

like my winter coat is a paratrooper coat

[icy breach]

tbh; i was thinking of havong tats myself... but i won't...

[formal dew]

but I've sown a ton of patches and pins and whatnot onto it

[icy breach]

i'm VERY afraid of needles & any form of puncture damage...

[formal dew]

You can get numbing cream which very much helps with pain

as for needles, that's understandable lol

for tattoos themselves, they don't do any damage unless your artist is particularly heavy handed

[icy breach]

i can live with being jabbed in my gums... still can make me light...

[formal dew]

always good to look at an artists work BEFORE you book with them

[icy breach]

heavy handed? oh god... that sounds... bad

[kind jay]

nono, get the mind in motion icon

[formal dew]

its the same thing as being heavy handed with a pen

[thorn cedar]

everyone will think im a foot fetishist

[formal dew]

if you're heavy handed with a tattoo gun you'll cause a lot of bruising and a crappy tat

[thorn cedar]

which would only be incidentally true

[formal dew]

but no artist wants to be heavy handed

[kind jay]

[icy breach]

are you tho?

[icy breach]

FREAK

[wind spruce]

How dare you all have this conversation without me

Ima get some coffee and then prepare to relitigate the entire discussion

[kind jay]

which one? the tattoo one or the foot fetish one?

[kind jay]

is foot fetish even allowed in 40k? that's more of a slaanesh thing right? but like if i ask dukane if i can lick her foot will she let me? will she shoot me immediately? or will she let me, but then shoot me?

[rancid geyser]

what

the

hell?!

[wind spruce]

Instead of the tattoo thing or the foot fetish thing lets talk about your conflation of the 40k setting with the imperium

Thats by far the most fucked up thing anyones said here in the last 24 hours

[kind jay]

i don't know what any of that means

I'll just go with yes!

[wind spruce]

You asked if foot fetishes are allowed in 40k

[ashen garnet]

well

are they

sorry I just got here

[wind spruce]

40k is a fictional universe, a collection of lore, stories, games etc

If its a slaanesh thing, as you said

Then its in 40k

So what are you even asking?

[kind jay]

if dukane will shoot me before or after licking her foot

[hearty geyser]

thats what ive BEEN saying, finally someone who gets it

[wind spruce]

That depends whether foot fetishes are outlawed by the imperium of man

[hearty geyser]

my brain nearly bursted and i almost assailed everywhere when i first heard her speak

[marble crater]

What's even the point of winning against chaos then?

[thorn cedar]

if chaos wins there will be no feet to be tempted by

[wind spruce]

Scat fetish

[ashen garnet]

What

[marble crater]

Nah, let Chaos win in that case

[wind spruce]

American puritanism infecting your brain rip

[marble crater]

Why must you insult me so

I'm not American

[wind spruce]

Yeah you're from europe

Thats why its extra shameful

I thought better of you smdh head

[thorn cedar]

all i want is to have pure, christian, missionary sex with my monogamous felinid lover

[marble crater]

[jovial juniper]

Depends if she feels like she needs it

[kind jay]

i think you'd have a good chance if you asked directly after the train mission

[ashen garnet]

probably

[rancid geyser]

HEY!

why is it an insult?!

[marble crater]

I don't make the rules okay?

[crisp ether]

or a tear drop near their eye at least in America

Though there's nuance even for that particular tattoo.

[knotty elm]

am i missing something

or there is just not enough enemies on auric to make the inferno staff worth it?

[thorn cedar]

somewhat correct

[knotty elm]

i tried a bunch of times, maybe I am missing something but my melee psyker with scrier is consistently way higher on dps than when armed with the inferno staff on auric

[thorn cedar]

yea

lots of builds clown on fire staff at most of the difficulty levels

if your team genuinely needs a fire staff at auric to get through then it's a failure of three other people to build correctly at a minimum

[jovial juniper]

The weapon that scales infinitely with density does scale infinitely with density

[thorn cedar]

and yea

[jovial juniper]

[thorn cedar]

big surprise

[knotty elm]

given how often i see people running it on auric as well, i thought it was going to perform better

auric mob density isn`t low by any mean

[thorn cedar]

nah people just assume incorrectly that strong high difficulty build = best build for the entire game

you hop on youtube, type in "DARKTIDE PSYKER BUILDS", and you get flame bubble, so you take it into malice

you'll certainly do fine

frankly you'll even have fun

it's only scoreboard chasers who'll notice the lack

[main crow]

Most things people run because they find it comfortable, if the average player cared about dps then there wouldn’t be so many Smykers

[thorn cedar]

in some defence of that, if you're really average or below at the game then smyking would indeed be really high DPS compared to the alternative

[night plover]

I almost completed warp battery without even thinking about it.

while doing the shriek survive one

but was 6 seconds off lol

[serene stream]

I actually liked flame bubble, cause i've tried all the staves and only inferno felt like I had most control over my situation, with the exception of Crushers [even bulwarks and reapers just melt with enough applications of fire].

Though I'm contemplating whether the Brittle stacking blessing on inferno and the rending talent for psyker is worth using or should I just pick up crit increase based on peril blessing or other blessing...

Trauma staff comes in a close second, if you want to trade wide CC for an answer to the crushers+other ogryn.

[thorn cedar]

ouchie

[thorn cedar]

trauma is my pick cause firestaff is just exceptionally boring

[night plover]

ehh its okay, wasn't even trying for it really

[thorn cedar]

the brittle blessing is alright in higher difficulties since everybody benefits from brittle rending and elites are VERY meaty

but you yourself still wont be accomplishing much

the crit is the one you want

[serene stream]

Good to know: 20% brittle + 20% rending does go far in the non-crusher armored enemies.

Is crit really that end all, be all, despite the nerf it saw where the dot doesn't proc crit talents anymore?

[thorn cedar]

the bhuw

[radiant frigate]

thw what

[jovial juniper]

In a way yes

Applies an extra stack

[thorn cedar]

dots dont crit, but the projectile you fire off does

is im guessing the misunderstanding there

[jovial juniper]

Procs Perfect Timing and shit

[thorn cedar]

more importantly it procs Empathic Evasion so you basically can just stand in gunfire completely ghosting bullets

[serene stream]

many months ago, you could proc the range evasion talent on dots, so you were basically ghosting range enemies for days.

[thorn cedar]

yea

yea thats still a thing

[serene stream]

I must've overlooked it.

[thorn cedar]

yea the dots themselves dont ever crit, its just the projectile

[serene stream]

I thought they had hotfixed it, so the dot wouldn't spam anymore. I can still do it with primary, tho.

[thorn cedar]

you do have to be hitting something with the staff

hmmm

im not familiar enough with fire staff

does the crit only roll when you begin casting or does it roll on every projectile puff thereafter

one of u fire nerds pls answer

[zealous wing]

every tick of application rolls to crit

[serene stream]

example, if you set a horde on fire, it was almost permanently active cause the dot could crit while active.

now, you actually have to 'fan the flames' actively, in order to keep ghost going.

[zealous wing]

the dot itself cannot crit, but the game can take a rolled crit from your staff, and just holds it until the next tick of dmg registered to you, and classifies THAT as a crit

[serene stream]

hmmm.

Interesting.

crit blessing is good, brittle is good, is the stacking dmg blessing also good and if so, which of the three is most worth going after.

cause 30% or so bonus damage at 5 stacks on enemy adds a lot of damage on primary.

[zealous wing]

brittle is mehkay

if you REALLY dont care for stacking damage, its survivable

[rancid geyser]

facts

[serene stream]

I like to play more as support/cc, with the damage just coming naturally along

[rancid geyser]

dps is not everything and the ppl that play for it are low key a plague

[zealous wing]

i prefer uncanny stacking over penflames and pots

[serene stream]

I like to follow Morrow's Wisdom: "They're still alive? Then the rest don't matter."

[zealous wing]

eh it kinda matters

if the helbore vet has more lesser kills than the inferno psyker, it really does matter

[serene stream]

i mean yeah, enemies dying is important, too.

OMG THE TEAKETTLE

[zealous wing]

here

[serene stream]

but yeah, you're right. In expeditions, I'm usually melting everything except crushers and bosses [though I usually whip out the BB for the latter]

[zealous wing]

uncanny stacking is your best friend

[serene stream]

If my helbore ain't pinging crushers to death, they be doing something wrong.

[thorn cedar]

yea unsurprisingly 124% rending is better than 20% rending

[serene stream]

i got uncanny strike and one other blessing on my 'can opener' dueling blade.

[zealous wing]

or deimos in general for crushers, unless theres way too many things

the push attack on force weapons is always a weakspot hit, with 9m range

[serene stream]

If a crusher is coming at me, I just ping it for teammates to deal with, cause I usually have bad luck around crushers and can't trust myself in melee with them

[zealous wing]

i had demo clips but havent recollected them since my data corruption

[zealous wing]

deimos h2 puts them on their ass, if you wanna practice making distance

the safest sidearm

[serene stream]

Hmmm, i do like the dodge range on dueling blade, tho.

[night plover]

oh, well warp battery done.

[serene stream]

heh

I'll look into deimos, tho.

[rancid geyser]

really?

i have never noticed this

[serene stream]

on a side note, this current event is SO much nicer than the damn crusher spam we had to deal with [last event, i think?]

[zealous wing]

long clip but the only thing i have onhand atm showing movement/uncanny stacking in a game, about halfwayish?

i very much am procrastinating rebuilding my archive

[rancid geyser]

lmao it is!

[rancid geyser]

ngl free increased damage on crushers just for shoving is hilarious

[zealous wing]

vicious mockery dmg

[rancid geyser]

fr

[serene stream]

whats the perks on deimos to aim for?

[rancid geyser]

uncanny is a must ty Hexis XD

[serene stream]

-Perks-

[zealous wing]

cara unyield

[serene stream]

the stat bonuses

[zealous wing]

i could not type unyielding for the life of me

[serene stream]

oh right

[zealous wing]

😭

[serene stream]

i missed the suggestion. I need my glasses x.x

i know uncanny strike is the main one but the second?

[zealous wing]

deflector is one, if you want more defence, definitelynotloadingintopsykertocheckbecauseigettwoconfusedallthetime

[serene stream]

lul

[zealous wing]

superiority i think is the norm, im running practice tests with slaughterer

superiority gives you lingering stacks with slow decay, which is good

[rancid geyser]

i think on force sword deflector, is just an always take for me

deflector is just nice

[zealous wing]

slaughter is just stacks on kill of strength, so im just feeling it out for preference

[serene stream]

yeah, block reduction -and- range blocking sounds so good

[zealous wing]

its better if you have kinetic deflection, but definitely not bad either way

you wont be able to block a LOT of ranged attacks, but a few bullets from a stalker while you move to cover or move to disrupt is nothing to turn your nose up at

[rancid geyser]

it also makes things like chaos spawns a bit easier to deal with

blocking someone of their hits while kiting

[zealous wing]

true

bastards

[thorn cedar]

makes sense for flamestaff, i do shred + uncanny for my gunker

[dusky crag]

tragic ending but that horde control was beautiful

[zealous wing]

ye on inferno you just dont generally melee enough to warrent crit blessing on melee

[zealous wing]

i am STILL MAD

fatshark ate my shriek, it didnt go on cd

[rancid geyser]

i've been thinking of using block cost reduction instead of gunner res for a while now ngl

lmao

the block cost reduction would probably do more because when on sword i could use it, and when on staff, it's not like gunners can hit me

[rancid geyser]

day before yesterday i watched an ogryn nuke get eaten

like it did 0 damage to everything in the area

[zealous wing]

D:

[main crow]

I like Surge EK with vent that still uses the charge attack liberally and also has kinetic flayer. Then you also have the handy fgs as a backup.

Good amounts of CC, anti specialist, and horde clear

[serene stream]

I usually have to stack ALL the peril reduction talents, just so I can make it able to use it more than twice before having to take deep breaths like a big guy just starting cardio.

[zealous wing]

ORANG

[main crow]

Oh I don’t use peril reduction

[serene stream]

right, the vent :p

I remember when surge used to do web cc, now it's just a zap taser

[main crow]

You only have to do short spurts of quelling to keep firing anyways if vent is on cooldown

[serene stream]

sure the maniacs go down frothing but things like crusher are harder, though rending might help with that.

My problem is that it's really peril juggling at that level that I'm not 100% able to do to great effect.

[main crow]

Crushers get bonked by FGS

[serene stream]

fgs?

[main crow]

Force Greatsword

[serene stream]

Derp.

[main crow]

Great crusher bonkers, and decent enough at horde clear with light attacks (and obviously the beam is fantastic horde clear)

You can also be silly with empyric shock into brain bursting

[rancid geyser]

M1 with vent?

[serene stream]

i always love the BB double tap, when the 15s cd auto bb procs off the bb

[main crow]

Yea I use both balls and charged zaps depending on my targets.

[rancid geyser]

i use both too, but vent feels rough ngl

[main crow]

Vent big groups zap/ball everything else

[rancid geyser]

on EK the only time i use vent with it is if im doing m2

ever since the CD nerf i dont even touch venting shriek on EK anymore

[serene stream]

cd nerf?

[main crow]

I’m using warp siphon still so the cd is still super short

[rancid geyser]

just spray and pray and let Perilous Combustion do it;s work

[rancid geyser]

the Cooldown talent Psykinetic Aura was nerfed not too long ago

[zealous wing]

not by much tho

[serene stream]

ah, yeah i remember that but it's still pretty decent.

[zealous wing]

biggest "nerf" was it doesnt apply to teammates anymore

biggest buff is, any build can grab it

shriek CD is still like, min 8s or so? idk i'd have to ask six, he did the testing

[rancid geyser]

yeah the habit i used to have of spamming into shriek is gone

[serene stream]

I miss the ability battery for teammates lul

[rancid geyser]

venting shriek legit just used to be up no matter what

now you run into moments where it isn't XD

[rancid geyser]

aah fair

warp siphon do be fixing that issue a bit

[serene stream]

i do the same with bubble, cd reduction on soul siphon is good.

[rancid geyser]

my issue with taking warpsiphon though is the stark difference in damage

compared to Disrupt Destiny

[thorn cedar]

dd is him

[rancid geyser]

DD is legit just the Best talent for EK, at least imo. Scrier's Gaze being the best ability as well.

[zealous wing]

tbf tho the difference isnt severe unless you focus on weakspots and crits, which if youre RMB ek, crits are there, weakpoints arent so much

[rancid geyser]

M1

[zealous wing]

then ye its just a gun

[rancid geyser]

excuse me?! Its a shooty stick

there is a difference

[zealous wing]

a gun is a shootystick

[serene stream]

a staff is a magic shootystick

[zealous wing]

youre telling me a gun that makes you immune to bullets isnt magic?

[rancid geyser]

nah, that's just the emperor intervening

blessing you with style points

[zealous wing]

staff is ultimate style points lets be real

but then the vet goes and generates ammo of nothing

and the hive scum

and the ogryn

[rancid geyser]

the warp blesses us

even without us knowing

it is an interdimensional 3d printer

[zealous wing]

if WE generate too many bullets, we explode

[thorn cedar]

ill never forget this blessing also giving you +15% sprint speed

now that was truly magical

and did not last long because what a colossal mistake

[zealous wing]

75% sprint speed sounds amazing

instead we're stuck with a measly 60%

curse you fatshark

[thorn cedar]

oh nobody gets 60% sprint speed

movespeed =/= sprint speed

[zealous wing]

whats the difference?

[rancid geyser]

one only works when running

lmao

[thorn cedar]

sprint speed is applied overtop move

so its WAY MORE

[zealous wing]

ah so like on top of 60% movespeed

sick

[rancid geyser]

^

[zealous wing]

gimme'

[thorn cedar]

its x1.6 + x1.15

or it was

[rancid geyser]

zooming was fun while it lasted

[thorn cedar]

iirc all the ranged weps that could take it tho were only max +0.27

[zealous wing]

zooming is still fun

[thorn cedar]

which like you were still FUKEEN FAST

but now we have guns with +0.6

that can equip it

just that 0.33 would have made a gigantic and disgusting difference

im positive my math formula up there is completely wrong btw i know

im not a mathist

[thorn cedar]

i was not attentive

and i played an EP Assail build

as though it was a blazeblast build

very happy i dont have scoreboard because i think i would be very embarrassed to see that number

imagine taking warp unbound and always venting when you were at 100% instead of casting for an entire round

couldnt have been me

[cursive shell]

psyker is just too good

putting up millions of damage, and you get to stay out of melee range so the only thing that can hit you is gunfire, but lmao EE means not even that gets ya

and DS mobility/parry means you can escape any bad situation. taking damage is completely optional

The only thing you aren't great at is boss damage. You'll never get hit (parry), but you'll also take forever to kill them if you have to clutch

Is it worth switching to GS/FS to triple dip into boss damage as well? Is it too greedy?

[sinful perch]

Fgs is worth it just because of how fun it is ngl

I got it because I wanted a horde clear melee only to realize it's also an insanely good single target weapon too

The slash beam is also actually pretty decent if you have a crit damage build and the blessing that makes it a guaranteed crit

[radiant frigate]

not factual

warp slice is a waste of a blessing slot
but fgs does go very nicely with sg/dd

[sinful perch]

Ah yes the "erm achually this is not statistically as optimized as possible so it's terrible!!!!"

Good reminder to not interact here

[radiant frigate]

what are class channels for, if not that?

[thorn cedar]

well no it is strictly pretty suboptimal

they really oughta just ditch the cooldown on it

like thats such an unnecessary restriction on it

crit slash is pretty dope though, it has no damage fall off

imagine if it could headshot too, woweezowie

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean if we talk about practicality warp slice is dogshit

[sinful perch]

"Discuss all things related to X class"

[radiant frigate]

missing out on A Chunk Of Crit or A Chunk Of Power to sometimes have guaranteed warpshock slash is just not the play

[cosmic cobalt]

and fgs scale off crit pretty hard

unstable power is like free 20% strength

[radiant frigate]

and your choice of crit blessing is like free 20% crit

[verbal thistle]

Car

[radiant frigate]

and you don't think optimizing is related?

[thorn cedar]

what make and model is this

[verbal thistle]

Purr deluxe, limited

[thorn cedar]

a fine feline

[radiant frigate]

excellent specimen

[thorn cedar]

i would unironically use warp slice main slot if it didnt have a 20s cd

[sinful perch]

Not when you use your great sword with the talent that reduces peril on weakspot kills to keep sciers gaze active

[thorn cedar]

i really dont get why it has one

[sinful perch]

No, but that's not the entire focus of the channel

Not everything needs to be ultra optimized

Some people just have fun dude

[cosmic cobalt]

why are you taking bcob on meleepsyker

[rich spindle]

anyone know why you can get bleed damage on scoreboard

with no bleed

i heard it was barrels

[sinful perch]

To keep sciers gaze ongoing without needing to quell

And once it caps I throw out everything from assail or spam electro shots

[radiant frigate]

bcob had a niche before all the melee psyker buffs (to increase toughness gen in melee)

now it just feels a bit ??

[cosmic cobalt]

gaze is mostly relegated to needing to kill this particular thing really fast and make you tanky as fuck or quick way to get your peril down for warp slice

[radiant frigate]

from experience i can tell you that it matters less than you think

[thorn cedar]

it still does all of that

[radiant frigate]

you get good uptime either way

but you get to save a talent point

[cosmic cobalt]

except you don't want bcob since it fuck your peril

and it a point that can be spent elsewhere

[thorn cedar]

depends how u building

[cosmic cobalt]

gaze uptime isn't that important

[radiant frigate]

bcob can work fine with sg
sg can also work fine without bcob

[thorn cedar]

neither is high peril

depends how you're building

[radiant frigate]

bcob absolutely does not work fine with any other ult though

[cosmic cobalt]

high peril is important because you get a tons of buff being in high peril

[thorn cedar]

if you take them

[cosmic cobalt]

notably ootw and warp rider

which is free

[radiant frigate]

you also get a ton of buffs from long gaze

[cosmic cobalt]

it not worth taking bcob for like 4 more secs of gaze uptime

just keep your dd stack up

[thorn cedar]

its more like a minute

so long as heads are nearby

and your melee isnt supreme dogshit, but that would be an interesting choice with bcob

[sinful perch]

It is absolutely not 4 seconds more I've lasted like 20 seconds longer with it before

[cosmic cobalt]

what your average uptime with gaze + bcob

[sinful perch]

A minute to two, depends if I end it early to use the 10 seconds of no overload

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean actual number

[radiant frigate]

that sounds somewhat unlikely without a lot of quelling in one activation

[cosmic cobalt]

using uptime mod

[radiant frigate]

not everyone tracks this

[deft stump]

How old?

[cosmic cobalt]

because bcob doesn't quell fast enough for meaningful increase of gaze uptime

[verbal thistle]

9

[radiant frigate]

so consider it a defensive talent

[cosmic cobalt]

you don't even need it for like

assail weave either

because you will automatically quell before 10 sec of mim end

[cosmic cobalt]

also having actual number is important over i feel taking x is better

[deft stump]

A cute 2017 make, I see.

[radiant frigate]

your empirical evidence is naught before my feelscraft, bow down

[thorn cedar]

its not exactly mysterious

bcob will get you much better uptime than without

unless you gaze twenty meters from any enemy and toss darts or something

[cosmic cobalt]

how, in this context he not even quelling and gaze outscale bcob quell very quick

[radiant frigate]

uptime on sg go up
uptime/magnitude on high peril buffs go down
peril cycling/toughness gen/JaD effectiveness go up

[thorn cedar]

what's difficult to understand exactly

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean give me actual number instead of this

[thorn cedar]

you've read the talent right