psyker-class

[wind spruce]

No because its 1.0x1.45x1.1

[pale prairie]

So the additive alternative would be 1.0 x 1.60 right?

Isn’t that accounted for in the random 45% damage we are using in that example?

[wind spruce]

Eg you have 40% damage and 75% power, thats 1x1.4x1.75=2.45

Then you add virulent, 2.45x1.1 = 2.695

[buoyant maple]

it does get close

[pale prairie]

So instead if I add 15% to the 40%

1.0 x 1.55 x 1.75 =2.713

[buoyant maple]

it depends on what exactly ur going for

tertium welcome is better for breakpoints

[pale prairie]

Thank you path

[buoyant maple]

virulent strain is more dmg vs more things

[pale prairie]

Cause it’s global?

[buoyant maple]

well it's just because the 2 main ways u apply it (chem blackout or melee elite kill) both apply tox to a bunch of enemies at once

so on a mixed horde it scales really well

[pale prairie]

Ah I see

I use chem blackout and virulent strain just trying to understand it better

[buoyant maple]

like, u can just do this

this is just splash dmg

[crisp ether]

I think Chem blackouts are the perfect complement to VS

[pale prairie]

It must increase the toxin damage itself yes?

[buoyant maple]

it does

[crisp ether]

Yeah

[buoyant maple]

because again, x%dmg taken is global debuff

[pale prairie]

Oh then worth

[crisp ether]

Also buffs needle pistol

And coated weaponry

[buoyant maple]

the only x%dmg taken that's not global is x%melee dmg taken

but x%melee dmg taken is still quite strong and taken on pretty much every occasion

[pale prairie]

What specific debuff is that? Like what talent?

[static sonnet]

Gaze needs a buff, its should give night vision for the lights out missions

[wind spruce]

@buoyant maple kuli doesnt say in his guide, does HV damage apply after +damage and +power?

But virulent and other damage taken debuffs would apply, im guessing?

[buoyant maple]

arb "target the weak": enemies u stagger by melee atk receive +15% melee dmg taken for 5s
og "hard knocks": enemies u stagger by melee atk receive +15% melee dmg taken for 5s

both are very strong and easy to grab

[crisp ether]

Bro it's already a college grade essay of buffs as is

[buoyant maple]

I'd assume HV dmg is applied to base

as in, before all the dmg buffs apply

[pale prairie]

Whoa had no idea hard knocks was a debuff

[buoyant maple]

enhanced push + hard knocks is a ton of value for just 2 points that I see people consistently ignore

[wind spruce]

I think thats correct becauss iirc i calculated my overkill in testing and it added flat

[buoyant maple]

they just don't know better

[crisp ether]

I'm fairly certain HV basically just takes the overkill you got from an enemy and flatly adds a percentage of that overkill to the next.

[pale prairie]

Does Soften them up stack with that?

[buoyant maple]

additively with hard knocks

for x125% melee dmg taken (but x110% for other types of dmg)

[wind spruce]

But if that enemy has a +damage taken debuff HV might benefit

I have to go to work in 12 minutes someone test it

[crisp ether]

Yeah actually I don't know if VS would affect the damage after calculations.

[buoyant maple]

my assumption is that
lets say rashad smiter, 265.65 dmg
u overkill a guy by 100 dmg, HV adds 1/4 of that to next atk (25), so next atk is 290.65 dmg (which gets put through all dmg buffs)

[wind spruce]

+1 million damage x 1.1

[crisp ether]

Honestly

Given how crazy Hyperviolence can ramp

And how quickly it can happen

That sounds right.

Basically constantly cycling the damage buffs before and after overkill calculations.

[buoyant maple]

also a bit of info u prob don't know

push's stagger value is not affected by melee_impact or melee_strength

[crisp ether]

That I actually knew.

[buoyant maple]

it's only affected by impact and strength (global)

[buoyant maple]

yea but this is psyker chat so I tend to assume less

[crisp ether]

I mainly figured that out because I wanted to check after finding out that decimator isn't global strength but melee strength

And it got me considering what other things don't actually click the way I thought they did.

[buoyant maple]

as it turns out slaughterer even better than expected

thrust cucks stay losing forever

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396860171541807105/1232138126441582642/mfw_deadass.gif

[crisp ether]

Honestly

Kinda considering a toxin build

With crowbar

Because of superiority.

Actually shit is it global or melee strength

[buoyant maple]

u will likely still get railed by ragers without blackout/rampage

[crisp ether]

Well ya I'd be a rampage build

Fuck using crowbar for anything else lol

[jovial juniper]

There's only Unstoppable Force Crowbar

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[cosmic cobalt]

if only

[crisp ether]

Unstoppable Force lowkey not as bad as I thought

"Fully charged" is actually really generous

[jovial juniper]

Yeah but like

[cosmic cobalt]

global since it affect dot damage too iirc

[jovial juniper]

You don't pick it for

"Fully Charged"

You pick it because all your heavies ignore carapace's abort_cleave

With UF

[crisp ether]

Oh yeah I mean

[buoyant maple]

this might also shock u but
slaughterer power sword is kinda funny with serrated blade

[jovial juniper]

You still respect mass though

[zinc phoenix]

no abort

[crisp ether]

I thought the "fully charged" thing would make it shitty

[jovial juniper]

Unstoppable Force is pro life 🗣️

However

Fully Charged

[crisp ether]

But it actually kicks in surprisingly fast.

[jovial juniper]

Is actually pretty broken

You reduce every enemy to 0 mass

[buoyant maple]

and u also do like 0 dmg after 4 dudes

[jovial juniper]

Which means you can hit 128 enemies

Actually

[zinc phoenix]

Got a hilarious crowbar build?

[jovial juniper]

I know what I want

Give unstoppable Force to Psyker

[buoyant maple]

wait.

what happens if u use beak mode's 0.001 cleave

and fully charge it with unstoppable force

[jovial juniper]

It'll probably respect the elites specialists tag

But what about the other enemies

Good question

[jovial juniper]

Imma try it today

Charged Strike vs 0 mass

[wind spruce]

@buoyant maple @pale prairie @crisp ether these 4 numbers suggest HV isnt buffed by virulent as 78 damage is added by virulent whether or not i have HV up

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmm

Interesting

[crisp ether]

So then it's just a purely flat bonus based off the overkill

The buffs would affect the results before calculation but not after.

Alright.

[ripe obsidian]

Aye, enemies improved seems nice. I requested the creator lower the visual clutter a little for debuff management, but otherwise it seems pretty smooth

[buoyant maple]

I got it to only display healthbar from damage, but not display dmg number

so clean

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-mac-alphabet-letters-qwerty-gif-15560493

[ionic merlin]

Is it edible?

[fresh panther]

Bro really typed four random numbers in notepad as proof /s

[spice aurora]

Half life 3 confirmed type shi

[ionic merlin]

The valve should start turning ngl

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1494810021886951426/2FD6AC81DD59D3FE.mp4?ex=69e3f5d1&is=69e2a451&hm=65d11d1b18224fc572ce39e76da107575f06e2c73853872ebf8357d04f2ab4e8&
u can actually set it to only show health bar from dmg, but not display dmg
it's so clean this way

[spice aurora]

recruiting people to do h40 from morningstar is the most fun thing ever

[thorn cedar]

REJECTS, YOU ARE CHOSEN

[ionic merlin]

For what?

[thorn cedar]

FOR HAVOC

[spice aurora]

i scream at them and say join or ill find u irl and most ppl join and are chill and funny

[thorn cedar]

u are being conscripted into dukanes army do not resist

[buoyant maple]

did u know that dukane has a prosthetic leg

[thorn cedar]

really

guess i couldnt see it through her thick accent

[buoyant maple]

yea I was informed of this by an arknights player

[thorn cedar]

what's that

[thorn cedar]

"PRETTY FLOWER"

[wind spruce]

And then took a picture on my phone for extra ragebait

[wind spruce]

Cant you do the exact same with healthbars mod? The design is much nicer here though

[wind spruce]

First message when i said yeah to a mourningstar lfg was "should i play smite psyker"

No lil bro, you shouldnt

(Second game i let him bc he was dying so fast anyway)

[buoyant maple]

healthbar looks kinda ugly ngl

also I tried it in a live game

I don't think this currently works?

only in meat grinder

so in live game u actually have to display dmg for it to work if u have it set to show only if dmg

also ran into this lol

[jovial juniper]

Uh

Does the crowbar have a passive or something

[long saddle]

crowbar, the psyker unique weapon

[crisp ether]

It do be like that.

[long saddle]

someone needs to put all the coat psykers in place

[jovial juniper]

so like

am I tweaking

[crisp ether]

Is that

...

[jovial juniper]

or is charged strike dealing more damage overtime

[crisp ether]

Why is it doing that

Oh wait that's

That's pdyker

But uh

[long saddle]

innate brittle?

[crisp ether]

That's a thing ya

Crowbar has built in thrust

[long saddle]

right that was hsword

[jovial juniper]

yeah you can see this thrust building up in the bottom left

[crisp ether]

Yeah that's a unique passive for it.

Always been like that.

[jovial juniper]

well

it still

doesnt explain why charged strike dots go up

[crisp ether]

Wait

[long saddle]

Heavy melee attacks apply a damaging Electrocution effect to enemies (up to 64 base damage per tick when reaching max charge level);

[crisp ether]

Doesn't charged strike just

[long saddle]

isn't it the charge level

[crisp ether]

Do that

[long saddle]

that's from kuli's guide ye

[jovial juniper]

The explanation would be that I'm just rolling weird

But it's pretty consistent

Weird

[buoyant maple]

it's RNG dmg roll

between an interval

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
So I am rolling weird

And from what I'm seeing

The 0 mass buff doesn't stay for too long

So Unstoppable Force isn't really good for Charged Strike

Shock and Awe still better

[long saddle]

it's technically scab mauler saturday in europe

[jovial juniper]

so yeah

unforcable stop for charged strike

big no

sad

side note

crowbar against bon

nasty sounds

also to answer the 0 cleave attack with unstoppable force

you bite if you dont kill

-Higui 2026

[dapper slate]

Need a build for smite

Smite/lighting or blaze build

[barren arrow]

but

but the

the when

when you

the warp unbound

it's

it's right there

you could be gazing it

[main crow]

How’s the heavy attack smite node work anyways. Does it just smite whatever you heavy?

[barren arrow]

It adds a electric DOT affect to your heavy melee that does not stack or refresh

It's pretty ass unless it has buffs from your melee weapon's blessings and/or malefic momentum

But it can do a surprising chunk of damage after buffs

Nowhere near as useful as kinetic flayer of course, that one is fair better for getting warp kills

But does happen more often, and is more useful against horde

Can make a weapon typically bad at hording go nuts

But the price is typically too great lmao

[main crow]

Rip

[ripe obsidian]

I am recognized for my shriekery

[kind jay]

i actually see bubble the least personally

now that i think about it, i also dont see shriek much besides myself. hmm

you can definitely tell when theres 2 shriekers

[ripe obsidian]

I rarely accept Psykers into my games unless they're melee

I don't want to share my blue fire

[kind jay]

oh im just a qp andy so whatever goes goes

but i know what you mean

[ripe obsidian]

I accept most everyone with above H30 clearance who isn't a soulblaze psyker

[pale prairie]

I exclusively use shriek, Fire Sensei

[autumn smelt]

i think we should blow up all psykers

no more pskyer

all gone!

[kind jay]

true

[wind spruce]

Gameplay uploads when six

[ripe obsidian]

when my FPS doesn't drop to sub-60 in hordes

[wind spruce]

Real

I want to record but my setup is barely viable as is

I dont have an fps tracker but i dont even want to know how low it drops lol

Wouldnt be surprised if it was 20-30

[ripe obsidian]

I am dying in dumb ways tonight. Have gotten crusher overheaded twice, trappered then kicked to death twice

Blew myself up once

lordy

[wind spruce]

It happens. My performance is so all over the place. Ill be playing like a god one game and then garbage an hour or two later

Especially once i hit the 6-8 hour mark after i take my vyvanse

[ripe obsidian]

but, minus me dying in dumb ways, here are some scoreboards of the surge surge build I am trying. I am noticing a lot of weirdness with DD targeting.

like, it's targeting enemies outside of my FoV, or refusing to swap off an enemy that ran into a spawn door, or just not marking anything every as there's a horde of bruisers in front of me

[wind spruce]

I wonder what % of your damage soulblaze would be with just PC

[ripe obsidian]

usually around 8%

[pale prairie]

I wouldn’t watch anyway

[wind spruce]

Lies

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[wind spruce]

Especially if i recorded mic you'd be all over it

[pale prairie]

I have got crushered at least twice tonight. Because rot armor in narrow corridors from both sides is bullshit

[wind spruce]

I have a few uploads from like 2 years ago playing gunker

[pale prairie]

So I could hear you eating food and cussing the whole time?

[ripe obsidian]

I had a game that was super close to 0 damage taken, then a burster walked through a wall and blew me up.

Like, actually walked through the scenery as if it wasn't there

[wind spruce]

Yeah eating dat heretic ass right up nomnom

[pale prairie]

You cannot be allowed to ascend

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/belle-beauty-and-the-beast-oh-please-blushing-gif-9913565231559229272

[ripe obsidian]

also my H40 has been Chasm Station like 5 times in a row. I do not want to do this map again, game.

[pale prairie]

Like the level where you go under the trains? You drop down and it’s a narrow L corridor? Freaking captain and lieutenants and rot packs

Oofdah

[buoyant maple]

I ended up going with the diamond display with the new hp bar mod

it's just rly clean

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-you'll-like-it-a-lot-dr-william-harford-eyes-wide-shut-you're-going-to-love-it-i-highly-recommend-it-gif-18377340579460303210

[ripe obsidian]

I don't use HP bars

Just debuff indicators

[buoyant maple]

the only debuff I care abt is skullcrusher tbh

the rest just aren't that significant

[ripe obsidian]

I want to know how much blue fire I have on enemies

@pale prairie these are some uptimes from non-PC/Souldrinker Surge Surge games.

DD targeting is acting funky. I think smoke grenades might make it worse.

[crisp ether]

I'm telling you.

DD somehow broke through the more recent updates.

[pale prairie]

I been saying this but nobody believes me

[crisp ether]

It feels like how it used to before they reworked the targeting.

[pale prairie]

Whoa those stacks of DD be low my brother in mind bursting

[ripe obsidian]

as I said, the targeting is acting weird

[crisp ether]

Perfectionism is just

Not viable right now imho

Because of the targeting currently.

[pale prairie]

It is but you HAVE to take the 3 stacks on weakspot kill

Worth for the crusher popping and rot armor

[crisp ether]

You go through periods of downtime with it quite often.

Okay.

Lemme rephrase.

[pale prairie]

Yep without the weakspots it’s rough stuff

[crisp ether]

Perfectionism is not the better choice right now.

Legit.

You're probably better off with 10s stacks but without weakspot so you can just put that talent elsewhere

Because the targeting isn't bad enough to let stacks decay with 10s buff

[pale prairie]

I don’t agree. On that. It’s harder but not impossible

[ripe obsidian]

I have the weakspot node. But I'm also just not getting targets.

Like, just going half a minute at a time where nothing is highlighting

[crisp ether]

But it's bad enough that 4s is genuinely difficult to maintain.

[pale prairie]

Huh that’s odd half the time the target is in a weird space and the other half it’s the stuff in melee with me so easy to grab. If distant I just heavy las pistol pop a few heads

[crisp ether]

It would be completely different if targeting worked as it was supposed to after they adjusted it.

[ripe obsidian]

I do think smoke grenades + cranial are fucking it up somehow. The concealed status from smoke grenades might break the AI required to get targeting

[pale prairie]

But it feels inconsistent

[crisp ether]

But something broke it within the past few months.

When I see that there is a mass of bruisers right in front of me

But the targeting decides to go for some dude in a corner in a building way further off

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, I'm not getting anything highlighted for large chunks of time. And then when they do highlight, sometimes they're a million miles away behind cover and the game won't re-target, or it targets something outside of my FoV and I never see it unless I spin around.

[crisp ether]

I know there's something wrong.

DD was fixed so that wouldn't happen.

And it did in fact work that way.

And Perfectionism was amazing.

[buoyant maple]

u can do 10 shotgunner in meat grinder and immediately be able to tell that the targeting is slow

[pale prairie]

Yeah I am getting this too but not to the point that I CANT get max stacks with perfectionism when I really try

[crisp ether]

It's also just weirdly finicky with who it targets as well.

[crisp ether]

You can get the stacks.

But can you consistently maintain them?

That's the issue.

[pale prairie]

It hovers between 15-25 depending on horde density and how accurate my shots are

[crisp ether]

Because even with something that's really easy to get max stacks with, like assail, I'm just getting targets I'm not able to actually hit and the mark isn't moving to anyone else.

[pale prairie]

Blight really sucks for meleeker on another note

[wind spruce]

Knowing my toxin stacks for bosses and whether i actually hit an enemy with needle pistol is extremely significant

[ripe obsidian]

I'm glad you're not having the issue, but it's quite frustrating

[crisp ether]

Likewise. I still run DD but with 10s since at the very least, the longer duration counters the slow targeting.

And don't run the weakspot node and put that elsewhere.

[ripe obsidian]

It's also weird because I'll have bursts of normal targeting

It'll be fine for 30 seconds, then busted for 30 seconds

[pale prairie]

It’s still happening it just seems in spurts. I’ll have a section where I get several easy targets in a row and then it’s off in neverland for a bit the it’s back. Only way I can maintain is the talent for 3 stacks on weakspot kill. Then again this WAS on maps without vet smoke

[pale prairie]

This right here

[crisp ether]

It's not happening all the time ya

But it is happening.

[pale prairie]

Agreed

[crisp ether]

And it's hella annoying because this is one of those things that isn't exactly easy to prove for Fatshark to fix it given it's a very RNG based mechanic.

[pale prairie]

It feels like the targeting for ( execution order?) arbites version is so much better. But maybe it’s cause it does multiple targets at once

[crisp ether]

Nah straight up, I have never noticed EO doing that.

The targets are always really easy to engage when they're marked.

[pale prairie]

I wish it at least was prioritized by where you were looking or crosshairs were pointed

[crisp ether]

Even for it being mutiple enemies, I don't really see cases of someone being fully submerged in corner in a church.

[pale prairie]

Arbites trying to avenge Psykers being better

On another note vet smokes on reapers are funny as hell. They sometimes just stand there aimlessly

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, smokes break AI almost as much as taunt does

[ripe obsidian]

When I have as many elite and lesser enemy kills as my team combined and am still averaging like 10 stacks of DD, something feels wrong. Like, just but taking my scythe to the chaff with that kind of kill count, I feel like it should be higher. And I pretty consistently have a melee headshot rate of 40-45%. Ranged headshot rate is usually a lot lower due to Surge's second shot + FGS's warp slash. Pretty positive warp slash counts for that.

[pale prairie]

I agree something seems off

No way is my GOAT washed

[ripe obsidian]

I was scouring for targets in-game

And beelining for the ones I could find

[pale prairie]

We’re you mostly using staff?

[ripe obsidian]

No

#psyker-class message

These are the scoreboards

Was a fairly even mix

Actually, you can see on the uptime thingy how long I was on each weapon

But that seems inaccurate

[pale prairie]

Huh I was almost wondering if it is going buggy at a certain range because it was in melee that I found the targeting behaving a bit better and for relatively close ranged

[ripe obsidian]

As it says I had Warp Nexus up for 4 minutes longer than it says I was using the staff.

[ripe obsidian]

Targeting mostly seems to behave better in melee. Mostly.

I would have fucking conga lines of ragers run at me, kill 6-8 at range, and not a single one would get highlighted

[pale prairie]

Damn

[ripe obsidian]

Oh well.

[pale prairie]

I hope it gets fixed soon

[ripe obsidian]

Funny that this game with PC Surge Surge has an average of 18

Maybe blue fire is the key.

[pale prairie]

Hah

It’s killing the ones behind walls

[ripe obsidian]

I'll screw with it again tomorrow and see what I can work out. Or just go back to Surge Surge Shriek

[long saddle]

@ripe obsidian while you're here, I wondered about one of the melee/gun shriek builds, the DD one in particular

do you think there's a talent that could be dropped for quick shards for assail?

I've been having trouble choosing myself so I haven't tried any out with it

[wraith sphinx]

Always have been

We washtide in here

Ur washed too u just don't know it yet

[kind jay]

am i washed? or am i cooked?

[wind spruce]

Got a link?

[long saddle]

it's the one in the guide

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Av6T7DJRkm78M3csiZec6p7-cHXOWiKyjpOJ-FWV3g/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.re9vpopqbepw

this should link to it

I do have true aim over KD for the preference pick

currently running with knife and recon las

[wraith sphinx]

YOU are fried

[kind jay]

i will be cause i ordered burger king

[wind spruce]

Sorry only just had time to look

Can drop wildfire

Or ogryn/monstrosity damage i guess

[long saddle]

yeah I was thinking latter since I got p decent soulstealer uptime

[wind spruce]

I doubt wildfire is contributing much to that

[zealous wing]

#darktide-pics-vids message
hmm yes,

normal game behaviour

[formal harness]

sorry bro you forgot to take immortal mutants into account

beginner mistake

[jovial juniper]

Hey man that's a different drug

I'm not offering that

Yet

They also said "or blaze build"

So I gave them blaze smite

I'm too good

[patent hatch]

I loveeee meleee psyker

[radiant frigate]

correct opinion

carry on

[pale prairie]

I don’t love meleeker in blight

[spice aurora]

i felt cool with this clutch that was basically half the game

hint: what ended the run is in this screenshot xD

[radiant frigate]

more because blight fucking sucks than anything else

[spice aurora]

fgs should let u outrange a lot of the goop

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/if-big-if-huge-if-if-statement-cinematic-gif-22180878274800606

[stray shoal]

Is it just me or is there pretty big difficulty jump from havoc 20 to 21+

I can’t put my thumb on what exactly has changed but definitely taking a lot more damage from trash mobs

[jovial quail]

So I finally put down the combat blade since exclusively using it since launch for the dueling sword, i'm truly in love with it with how safe it is, with unlimited dodges with the perk, but am tempted to maybe try one of the force swords just for crushers specifically, i'm pretty happy with dueling swords ttk on them but was wondering if any of the force sword/greatsword is just insanely superior to it for crushers?

I feel like i've always heard of Deimos more than any of the others but not sure if anything has particularly changed (But i'm 90% purg staff/10% melee when neccessary)

[cosmic cobalt]

fgs is like the third best melee in the game

💀

behind psword and caxe

ds is not usable at all on havoc

[jovial quail]

is there a particular version that I need to go for? Sorry i'm completely oblivious to force swords lol

[cosmic cobalt]

mk6

[jovial quail]

Gotcha i'll build one and give it a shot, appreciate it

[pale prairie]

It gets worse

[cosmic cobalt]

horde clear is 3 light into qq cancel/assail weave

[barren arrow]

i feel like any build that has melee psyker but doesn't also do really well with a staff is just a bad build

[cosmic cobalt]

spam light is also fine

[barren arrow]

that said

[pale prairie]

Ah more propaganda

[cosmic cobalt]

is it propaganda if it true

[barren arrow]

any team composition that goes into blight without a zealot with beacon of purity, or hive scum with shared fent, is also a terrible team composition to begin with

[pale prairie]

Interesting well thanks for telling me your feelings

[cosmic cobalt]

staff and melee pretty much use different side of the tree

there exactly zero overlap

[barren arrow]

disrupt destiny for one

buffs your damage for everything

[cosmic cobalt]

dd isn't worth it on staff

[barren arrow]

Crits?

[cosmic cobalt]

warp siphon is 24% damage while dd is 25% damage

dd is finesse damage

but most staff can't make use of it

because they don't hit weakspot

[pale prairie]

Surge staff? With surge blessing?

[cosmic cobalt]

warp siphon also brain dead and provide cdr

[barren arrow]

It's still the same damage increase idk where ppl get the "not worth" from

[cosmic cobalt]

"most"

[barren arrow]

dd also provides some of the best toughness regen for psyker

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah except you have to play with more effort

we already goes over this

[barren arrow]

sir in 40's i'd rather use my brain and live, then turn it off and die

[cosmic cobalt]

again warp siphon also provide cd REDUCTION

[barren arrow]

also i play the game to use my brain

but if you use your ability you lose all stacks

[pale prairie]

Look buddy Caxe is okay but WarpSlice exists

[cosmic cobalt]

are you trying to be subjective or objective

[jovial juniper]

Obscurus/Force Greatsword is stronger at killing carapace
Dueling Sword doesn't really fall behind them though

[cosmic cobalt]

because its impossible to have warp siphon below max

during horde

[barren arrow]

Boss fights often occur outside of horde, and it's not impossible if you're not using a soulblaze build, though most my builds do make use of soulblaze in one way or another to be fair.

[jovial quail]

I mostly went with dueling sword, just because its slightly behind the mobility of combat blade, resposistioning and movement is significantly more important for me, but there are situations where i'm having to solo 3-5 crushers just because team drops but knowing that I might keep using it instead since it feels perfect to me, thanks!

Ima def max out a greatsword though just to give it an honest shot though

[cosmic cobalt]

you don't need soulblaze for max warp siphon for years

💀

because ifr was broken for a long ass time

so you use psychic vampire

[barren arrow]

ifr?

[cosmic cobalt]

it is the better option if you use inferno

[barren arrow]

Anyways the point was that it works for both melee and staff

so like

you can use both and have them work really well lol

[cosmic cobalt]

since they fixed it

but you're literally barely worse off using pv

[barren arrow]

because a massive finesse bonus is going to make your deimos eat crushers alive as a tasty treat

[cosmic cobalt]

most staff need er so you don't have to quell as much

notably trauma

[barren arrow]

and crits with surge on voidstrike do pretty much the same, but you can still use a fire stick for more horde clear

[cosmic cobalt]

and surge

[barren arrow]

tbh i don't use trauma, and rarely surge

[cosmic cobalt]

voidstrike is pretty much a meme but it work with dd the best compare to other staff

[cosmic cobalt]

💀

ok i think we're done

[barren arrow]

But that's not most, that's 2/4 and I don't think voidstrike needs it, and inferno definitely doesn't

[cosmic cobalt]

inferno is the only staff doesn't

[barren arrow]

If you're spam casting it sure

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah because there zero fucking point to charge inferno

[barren arrow]

was talking about voidstrike?

voidstrike you can get a fully charged hit off of one quell

& with true aim, that's a fully charged crit of surge & blazing spirit

i agree without crits the thing is buns, but with crits & surge, the bowling ball of doom and despair is quite silly

[zealous wing]

dueling sword is fine, i find deimos mobility plenty and its very safe, obscurus supposedly has better TTK, but, meh, i like the deimos much more

[barren arrow]

but does the obscurus have the bonk of doom and despair

[cosmic cobalt]

obscurus can also 1 shot mutant when charged

[spiral minnow]

with talent tree changed, what are community recomendations for builds to try? .)

[zealous wing]

guide in the pins

[zealous wing]

so can deimos, minus the charge

[cosmic cobalt]

no it doesn't

[zealous wing]

even with the charge iirc

lmao

ok

[cosmic cobalt]

unless im tweaking obs 1 shot to ws while deimos leave them barely alive

[zealous wing]

you just never use either obscurus nor deimos charge

its nice on the "break the canisters" obj but thats really it

[cosmic cobalt]

wifi hit come in handy smh

[wind spruce]

Blazing spirit hahahahaha

[barren arrow]

:)

Bringing a horde up to 6 stacks, and preferably cleaving into a specialist/elite, very good way to cause everything to explode

[jovial quail]

Yeah I bought a stock version of each to test out in meat grinder, and the greatsword definitely makes you feel like an absolute badass but dueling sword's fluidness and such just feels so much better to me, I can definitely see the appeal to these now though lol

Still, no reason to not max them all out after 1k+ hours anyways, so maybe something will click in real game scenarios lol

Uncanny + Agile though just felt incredible going from hardly any stamina ever from push attacks with combat blade to infinite dodges and just super easy headpokes on everything

[zealous wing]

greatsword is epic as hell

but on a staff, its not ideal for movement, and only for voidstrike or surge surge really

[cosmic cobalt]

problem with agile is it agile

you literally don't need it on any weapon that it on

[zealous wing]

if its for inferno, force swords (not FGS), are the best, due to the safety of uncanny stacking vs dueling swords method

[cosmic cobalt]

since they all have good dodge distance and count already

[zealous wing]

for dueling sword, you NEED to actually hit things in the face to stack uncanny, which is very dangerous

[cosmic cobalt]

gs + las pistol is sex tbh

hit the stab

[zealous wing]

for force swords, you simply need to push attack, and it has a 9 meter range, and is always a weakspot hit

[cosmic cobalt]

switch to pistol to cancel attack slowdown and zoom

[zealous wing]

i do not like the laspistol

[cosmic cobalt]

use laspistol without autofire/skitarius

[zealous wing]

i use reconlas with it

[cosmic cobalt]

it's better

[zealous wing]

i dont use autofire nor skittarius

[cosmic cobalt]

aim issue ig

but laspistol is strong

i dont like recon las since it take forever to kill shit

[barren arrow]

hitting things in the face is very safe, it makes them fall over 🙃

[patent hatch]

Revolver with Great sword <3

[zealous wing]

not with dueling sword

[barren arrow]

ahh

I don't often take advantage of the pushattack proc

Usually only if I really need it for a DoT effect or somethin

otherwise it's just faster to bonk things in the head if I'm using it for melee damage anyways

Sometimes it's nice for safe true aim stacks

[patent hatch]

Revolver blessing btw 🤔 Hand cannon ofc. But struggling to choose between crucian roulette and Surgical tbh

or maybe a speed loader

[long saddle]

zarona is surgical usually ye

[patent hatch]

im just not sure how much benefit it gives me

if Im aiming its to snipe a special

most of the time I just whip it out to nuke a armourered target

[cosmic cobalt]

one shot literally anything short of crusher

[patent hatch]

so the crit feels redunadant

[pale prairie]

Las pistol move speed is so fucking nice

[cosmic cobalt]

iirc only vet can 1 shot crusher with 15 mmf stack

[patent hatch]

Uhh

Kinetic Flare?

[cosmic cobalt]

oh nvm im stupid

[patent hatch]

headshot Crit and KF nukes crushers

[cosmic cobalt]

i mean ws + agile

[pale prairie]

Not rot armor

[patent hatch]

tbh I think im gonna stick with Crucian

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-cat-dead-cat-depressed-cat-laying-gif-11402833644907079653

[patent hatch]

Cause I don't aim half the time

and anything I am aiming at dies to a headshot anyway

[buoyant maple]

Then use point blank

[patent hatch]

Does it proc off of melee kill?

[buoyant maple]

any melee kill

[thorn cedar]

flashback to when point blank only procced off melee kills ..... done with the gun

[dire wharf]

@deft stump still has not accepted my i game friend request

[deft stump]

I haven't gotten on for awhile lul.

[dire wharf]

Fair

I'm giving myself a little break so i can finish some other games

[deft stump]

Deathwing lul.

If not incrementals.

[dire wharf]

Terminators vs genestealers?

[wary vessel]

Hello lovelies how does recognition work?

I read the thing and i still don't understand how do i use it

My thing went up to 100% and i blew up

[dire wharf]

@ripe obsidian

[rich spindle]

What da hell is recognition

[wary vessel]

Oops precognition

Sorry i didn't notice the p in the beginning

[long saddle]

you need warp unbound

[wary vessel]

What's that mean?

[long saddle]

if you want to use peril after SG ends

for 10+ seconds after you hit 100% peril

you can use as much peril as you want without overloading

[wary vessel]

Ok im going to need you to talk to me like im an ogryn cause i literally just started playing psyker yesterday 😭

[long saddle]

ok you've picked scrier's gaze right?

since you were talking about precognition

[wary vessel]

Yes i that's what it says on the thing

[long saddle]

ok precognition is only about giving you time spent on weakspot kills and giving you bonus finesse damage after SG ends, aka hits 100% peril

the talent next to it is called warp unbound

you can also get to it by picking reality anchor instead

it will allow you to keep using peril without blowing up for roughly another 10 seconds after you first hit 100% peril after activating SG

[wary vessel]

Oh i see

Im also following a build and that build doesn't have that perk selected :(

[deft stump]

Yeah. Apothecary basically.

[wary vessel]

What do i do now?

[long saddle]

yes then you can't use peril after SG ends

just like if you had any other ability instead

hitting 100% peril and then trying to use more warp stuff will overload you

[dire wharf]

Deathwing never released on xbox 😤

[wary vessel]

So how do i use it without the unbound perk

[long saddle]

activate SG, kill stuff as usual as peril builds up

and once you hit 100% you can't use anymore peril until you get below 100% again

[wary vessel]

Oh i see

[long saddle]

if you're running a gun instead of a staff you often don't need warp unbound

[deft stump]

I play it on PC so lul.

[pale prairie]

or you can use SWORD

[wary vessel]

Oh im running a gun the recon lasgun

[wary vessel]

I am

[long saddle]

yeah that's prob why the build doesn't have it

[pale prairie]

basically just don't use Peril for those 10 sec

[wary vessel]

The big boy magic sword

[dire wharf]

BFG

[wary vessel]

Oh so will i not blow up if i reach 100?

[long saddle]

yeah you can't use warp slash at 100% peril

[dire wharf]

Don't listen to anyone that calls it FGS

[long saddle]

that's a thing to be wary of

if you quell super fast to like 97% you can fire it off fine

[pale prairie]

Precognition is great because it means that you can get kills that Increase the Fake Time you are in Scriers Gaze. Increased time Means more Stacks of big DAMAGE. Warp Unbound means that you can't explode while in the 10 sec of Precognition POST hitting 100%

[pale prairie]

FORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORDFORCE GREATSWORD

[wary vessel]

Ok so to recap pop ability kill stuff then when it reaches 100% i don't die?

[dire wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/gob-arrested-development-okay-ok-doubt-it-gif-22675932

[long saddle]

hitting 100% peril is usually not death

it's using peril after that's fatal

[wary vessel]

Ohhh i see

[long saddle]

there are some quirks to some staves that complicate things a bit

but if you have a shriek ready or another SG off cooldown you can use either and it will immediately quell 50% peril and stop you overloading

[wary vessel]

Ah i see

[pale prairie]

yes. So you pop Scriers Gaze. You get a laundry list of buffs that increase for every ONE second in SCriers Gaze BUT it slowly increases you Peril. Killing things will slowly quell your peril up to a POINT.

WITH Precognition, Kills act as if you have been in Scriers Gaze for 1 second AND after you hit 100% for 10 seconds you have a stack of extra damage equal to how many SG stacks you gained while in scriers.

[long saddle]

beginners can also run crysalline will talent which prevents you from going down on overload

but you will still take the wound damage

it's not recommended once you get better

[wary vessel]

Ohhhh ok ok i see this is starting to sound fun lol

[subtle fern]

what is the lowest warp resistance i can roll just buying blaze force swords from armory over and overy

[long saddle]

SG works with basically everything as well

[long saddle]

0%

but the other stats will not be at 80%

if you're buying the grey en masse

[pale prairie]

Warp Unbound is a further subnode to Scriers Gaze that states that once you hit 100% for the 10 seconds that Precognition is up YOU CANNOT EXPLODE FROM USING PERIL. This is great if you have a staff build or have Assail and can just spam little blue balls or super charged crystal darts

[subtle fern]

so at what point should i just say 'good enough'

im looking at ryken's havoc 40 rotten armor build

[long saddle]

low warp res is mostly just a flex and niche

[subtle fern]

i dont quite get it

[long saddle]

why you want a very low warp resistance?

[pale prairie]

If you are using guns however or don't have Assail then Warp Unbound is kind of useless. if you are using the FORCE GREATSWORD and want to use a super charged WARPSLICE. Just Quell Tap a little. AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT CAST A PERIL SPELL OR ABILITY WHILE PERIL IS AT 100% YOU WILL NOT EXPLODE. However I find having a True Peril mod so that you know your exact peril for sure helps alot

[subtle fern]

ryken told me to

[long saddle]

builds peril faster when activating warp slash

and psyker wants high peril for most builds

[wary vessel]

I also have a question about survivability for context i played zealot before psyker and on zealot if your Armour goes down you can just use your ability and get armor back is there anything like that on psyker or if it's different how do i do it cause i die easily

[long saddle]

there is not

psyker lives on killing stuff

[pale prairie]

Scriers Gaze DOES give Toughness per second and 20% Toughness Damage Reduction. BUT Warp Ghost and any of the Toughness talents keep you pretty topped off. Especially the melee one

[wary vessel]

Oh i see it's for a spam casting build

[long saddle]

no ability gives you immediate toughness

[verbal thistle]

well

with talent synergy it does

[wary vessel]

Idk what any of those are 😭

[pale prairie]

Quietude exists

[long saddle]

yeah just not zealot levels

or innate

[wary vessel]

Except for the scriers gaze

[long saddle]

no that just gives you regen

not like 50%-100% toughness back on activation

[subtle fern]

bought a 270 grey with 0/60 warp resistance

guess this is my starting point

[long saddle]

yeah just upgrade until all other stats are 80

[wary vessel]

Ok so i do i make it so i don't die faster than a pox burster running towards the wretches

[long saddle]

it's luck whether or not warp res will stay low while upgrading

[pale prairie]

basically Scriers Gaze is the closest analog to "PRESS BUTTON GET TOUGHNESS" that psyker has. the Talent Warp Ghost increases how much toughness All sources give you.

[pale prairie]

Quietude + SCriers Gaze quelling 50%

[long saddle]

I was still only talking innate

[pale prairie]

Quietude + Shriek Quelling 50%

[long saddle]

I know very well how quietude works

[pale prairie]

then stop saying that you can't get toughness back on activation?

[long saddle]

I was simply comparing it to zealot

since that's what they were asking about

[wary vessel]

Is warp ghost a early talent? Like is it up on the talent tree

[pale prairie]

It is the Talent Below Warp Rider in the bottom middle cluster

[wary vessel]

Is it color blue?

Sorry im new to psyker

[pale prairie]

yes

[subtle fern]

79 damage, 44 warp resistance, 470 power

everything else is maxed

[long saddle]

not the best but it's fine

[subtle fern]

woops, i mean 76 dmg, 41 warp resistance

next upgrade goes to 79/44

[long saddle]

better to just upgrade

[subtle fern]

which stats are important, damage, finesse, first target?

mobility is like 60 fine?

[long saddle]

if you wanted to optimize more you'd have to start with a new one anyway

I mean there's no reason to not get the rest to 80 if you're dumping warp res a ton

just try again

[subtle fern]

i rolled one that is 80D, 80F, 71 FT, 57M, 9WR - power level 360

i mean, im still upgrading it

[wary vessel]

Ok so good news the build im following has it selected

[long saddle]

you run it on majority of your builds really

it is very good

[subtle fern]

alright, 80 damage, 80 finesse, 80 first target, 67 mobility, 20 warp resistance - this sounds idea?

[wary vessel]

I see

[pale prairie]

it is a very good Talent that makes dumping warp resistance on swords less needed.

[subtle fern]

tbh, i have no idea how to use this thing so thats probably holding me way back more than stat minmaxing

[long saddle]

that just means you shouldn't leave mobility at 67

[subtle fern]

i thought most people used 60 mobility as a dumpstat cause it was just sprinting

[wary vessel]

I've never actually looked at the stats on my weapons is that bad?

[pale prairie]

weapons and blessings make a big difference in this game

[long saddle]

FGS is already slow so you don't want it slower

[wary vessel]

Oh i do those i just don't look at the stats on the actual weapon

[subtle fern]

k, 79 mobility / 32 warp resistance. 80 mobility would get it up to 37 - i dont know if last point is worth it

[long saddle]

nah that's fine to stay at

[pale prairie]

just make sure its maxed? and you want Warp Resistance to be 60% at least while everything else is at 80%

If you are using any of the Force Swords

[wary vessel]

My sword has a max of 78%

Is that good?

And nothings at 80?

[pale prairie]

yeah 80% is max. You need to have unlocked all the masteries of the weapon ( by using it in missions OR sacrificing weapons at Hadron's Store)

[subtle fern]

ignore what im doing wesker, i have 40k diamontine and am at super endgame havoc grinding

[wary vessel]

Also do i need to be using a specific mk of the big sword? Or is any good

[pale prairie]

Mk 6 is really good but if you are still learning Mk 8 is a good place to start cause you can spam light attacks to kill hordes

[wary vessel]

Oh i see

[pale prairie]

then you go into the masteries tab at the top of the menu you open for items or cosmetics and you just click the levels of blessings. once it is fully mastered you can go to Hadron and have her EMPOWER the weapon and slowly max all the stats for Materials and money

[wary vessel]

Which one is more fun though can the mk 6 not kill hoards by just spamming light attacks?

[pale prairie]

it can but the angle can be hard for new people cause it is a diagonal instead of flat horizontal. I think it is better than mk8.

Also you can do L1 L2 L3 and then HEAVY 4

[long saddle]

it can, you just need to learn to cancel the combo after a few attacks

[pale prairie]

thats a good rotation. you can also just do Light 1 Light 2 and then quick press block and repeat

[long saddle]

hitting rmb to block and letting go will reset the combo

up to light 3 also works, just not more than that

[wary vessel]

Does the mk matter in terms of damage?

[long saddle]

mk6 has better potential

its heavy attacks are better

[pale prairie]

I am pretty sure they are identical. The big difference is mk 6 you can just cycle a stab and overhead to kill heavy armor shit

(By holding down the swing button. basically H1 H2)

[wary vessel]

Oh i see ok I'll learn the mk 6 tomorrow

Cause i got the mk 8 out of the store

Thanks for the information though i appreciate it you twi

Two*

[long saddle]

np

[wary vessel]

Sailor moon rocks btw

[dire wharf]

6 can handle hordes easily, 8 is just slightly easier

[cosmic cobalt]

6 is literally just either light spam for horde or heavy for single target

like that can't be more pickup and play

[dire wharf]

I find 6 a little clumsy there, hordes, but its so good on crushers and bulwarks

[cosmic cobalt]

or you can do this

or do l1 l2 l3 h3

mk8 is genuinely just ass

it don't even have a smiter from running

[dire wharf]

I think the angle of the light attacks are awkward

But I'm getting used to it

[frail oar]

Mk 8 feels better for hordeclear

[cosmic cobalt]

how

[dire wharf]

Flatter swings

You can get a flat swing on the mk 6 with its block push attack

[main crow]

Nice flat swings are pretty nice ngl

[frail oar]

Heavy light repeating feels real gud on 8

Better than l l l h repeating anyway

[zealous wing]

shame the stab for big damage is locked behind push attack

[frail oar]

Yah but they both got flav 6 is better overall.

[ripe obsidian]

I am summoned

[dire wharf]

I don't even remember why

[kind jay]

I'm an 8 enjoyer

[dire wharf]

Can't go wrong with either one

[kind jay]

agree

[ripe obsidian]

You sicken me.

There is a clearly superior number, and it is not 8

[dire wharf]

Make the mk VII. It will have the light attacks from the VIII and the heavy attacks from the VI

[thorn cedar]

It's 7

[pale prairie]

It was a question of why precognition allowed someone to esplode

[thorn cedar]

oh that's a misunderstanding

your thinking precumgnition

[pale prairie]

You sure it was cumstylline Will?

[wind spruce]

Theres pills that can help with that

[kind jay]

i can't help my psychotic tendencies

[pale prairie]

Where do you purchase yours?

[wind spruce]

Direct from the manufacturer. I need them often, you see.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[wind spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/turned-it-around-saved-chris-klemens-chris-klemens-gifs-gif-11336155

[cosmic sigil]

It was warp cumbound

[thorn cedar]

endless cum!!

goddamn it ainz

[cosmic sigil]

Cumpowered Psionics

[thorn cedar]

The Jizzmancer.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/one-man-alone-alone-lonely-solo-single-gif-14086532

[jovial juniper]

One With The Wank

[thorn cedar]

Suddenly Saruman's Tower takes on new meaning.

[pale prairie]

Saruman the White

[spice aurora]

declined from every havoc on na W and na E

Q_Q

[little coyote]

Farming penances and figrued I'd level the force greatsword mastery while doing it. What blessing y'all run for a generic af build?

And by generic I mean, I am playing on malice/hersey and changing it as the penances change.

[pale prairie]

Hah what’s your build

[thorn cedar]

only top talents + smite

[crisp oriole]

will inferno staff be nerfed?

[verbal thistle]

it needs buffs

[crisp oriole]

yes negative buffs

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[verbal thistle]

as someone who hasnt signed an NDA and isnt a play tester I can say that its going to get a few buffs to help the average player stuck in malice

[jovial juniper]

Never

It's a swedish dev

Post nerfdivers

[zealous wing]

unstable power should always be there

[jovial juniper]

Nothing is ever going to get nerfed

[crisp oriole]

dont mind me Im just gonna rush straight into that pack of 20 gunners and wont get hit a single time

[pale prairie]

No way

[jovial juniper]

In fact

Due to toxin being the best dot in the game

Soulblaze will get buffed

To compensate

You know

[pale prairie]

wtf

[crisp oriole]

ah yes another indirect buff to weakest staff

[pale prairie]

Heaven forbid toxin get nerfed a bit

[pale prairie]

Lmao that would be a DIRECT buff

[thorn cedar]

inferno staff now fires in all directions in order to reduce the micro burden on players

[crisp oriole]

literally unplayable

[pale prairie]

The LMB is gonna be given a huge cloud radius to justify so many dipshits running just LMB spam Empyric shock inferno

[pale prairie]

“To address soulblaze concerns rot armor now replaces all heavy armor spawns”

[jovial juniper]

Darktide Survivors weapon

💀

[crisp oriole]

emperah himself channeling fraction of his power trough psykers inferno staff

it wont be nerfed because that would be heresy

but honestly I feel way stronger than anyone in my team when playing inferno

literally main character gameplay

[spice aurora]

devils claw so obviously auto invite on sight >:[]

[pale prairie]

I'd invite just to watch you parry the packs of rot armor. flat on their asses

[spice aurora]

my dad works for xbox, i can confirm this is correct

[thorn cedar]

holy shit, youre john xbox jr?

sorry for doxxing you

actually if XBox ever released a miniature version of their console I'm sure it would have a dumb as fuck name but i cant think of anything to make the joke

[kind jay]

todd howard told me that the rocket launcher is getting turned into a staff with infinite ammo

[spice aurora]

saying "lf1m need dps for havoc raid" is not working to recruit ppl for havoc, in morningstar 😐

[crisp ether]

It'd work if I was home

But that is not the case currently

[ripe obsidian]

Dost thou still needeth another?

[spice aurora]

i just threw in yolo 3man rot pox gas vigil, am sad, but ill do 1 more

was gon have my first 3mil wall melee psyker game cries

[kind jay]

i believe in you

[ripe obsidian]

If you want, I can join to try to help. Or you can take a break

[spice aurora]

its game time get on

recruiting morningstar warriors

[ripe obsidian]

Okey, gimme a minute

[spice aurora]

heres an example of that wall rotation thing i was talkn bout

killed a lot of them but i kept putting these rotated walls next to the map's walls and it just lets u kinda walk forward np

[ripe obsidian]

@spice aurora this is the lowest damage scum I have ever seen

[wind spruce]

@ripe obsidian could you update your CD analysis mod to include scum stimm? I'm trying to analyse how beneficial sample collector is with Rampage + CDR stimm and whether I can have a higher cooldown on my stimm without it being a major detriment

[ripe obsidian]

i CAN TRY

Oops, caps

I can try

[spice aurora]

@ripe obsidian @verbal thistle

lol

figuring out how the weird boost works

[ripe obsidian]

I was actually getting really frustrated at that scum

@pale prairie 61.4% and 59.7% uptime on EE on Surge Surge Shriek + DD.

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/Xx3vDP
@ripe obsidian @buoyant maple @summer prairie why is my stamina recovering in this video ??? i dont have regained posture selected, fyi

[verbal thistle]

game feature

[wind spruce]

as in... it happens because it happens?

[ripe obsidian]

does the game think you have Regained Posture?

oh, that talent doesn't work on reapers

[wind spruce]

i reset the psykhanium after i removed it to be sure

[ripe obsidian]

yeah, I have no idea. That's weird

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/vanNwl

Also TIL you recover stamina if u get hit during block break stun

[wind spruce]

it also works on psyker so definitely not regained posture

[ripe obsidian]

Psykhanium bug, maybe

A psyker in an H40 lobby. This amuses me

[buoyant maple]

If the player has <50% of their max stamina, they gain 1 stamina per damage instance received (both health and toughness damage) until the player has at least 50% of total stamina.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3367063781

[ripe obsidian]

Neato

[wind spruce]

it doesnt happen if im not pushing

nvm it does

thanks path

false causation bc i was pushing to reduce my stam haha

[verbal thistle]

sorry, I wouldbe explained that

but in solo

[ripe obsidian]

oh, the scum in that last game was desperado + needler. That explains a lot.

[cloud folio]

Rat build is super fun. Duelling Sword + Voidblast. You just spam heavy attack slides except during each slide you swap to voidblast and immediately fire secondary, then you swap back to ds and repeat. This lets you zoom across the map while spamming voidblast.

wtf kinda build is this

[cosmic cobalt]

mister pee

[wind spruce]

its described in the comment you quoted

[wind spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J3bcFyn_iA&t=530s

[cosmic cobalt]

it's basically just a normal trauma build

[wind spruce]

its more about how he plays than the actual build, yeah

[cosmic cobalt]

so normal trauma

swap to melee after cast is like

normal

to cancel slowdown

[wind spruce]

i didnt say how he plays was majorly different than what most good psykers are trying to do, but rat is objectively far superior at utilising these sorts of mechanics with crazy APM than anyone ive ever seen

[ripe obsidian]

I am growing more confident that smoke grenades fuck up DD targeting

10s DD duration, no smoke vet

10s DD duration, smoke vet

[little coyote]

What blessing y'all put on the regular force sword? I tried using the strength increases but noticed without the rending ability it would struggle against carapace even with the psycher juice.

I am using MK V btw.

[ripe obsidian]

Uncanny + Superiority or Uncanny + Unstable Power

Uncanny + Deflector if you're struggling to survive

[cosmic cobalt]

might be a skitissue

[little coyote]

Yeah, I was going to swap it back to uncanny and unstable. The rending was just too good.

[ripe obsidian]

literally the same build, same H40 modifiers

[cosmic cobalt]

also why 15dd

[ripe obsidian]

Because I don't want to use 25 stacks right now

[crisp ether]

dd broke

[cosmic cobalt]

I know it broken

[ripe obsidian]

My point isn't relevant to 15 vs 25 stacks. My point is that smoke grenades are fucking up DD targeting

[crisp ether]

May be LoS related

[ripe obsidian]

Going from 13.3 average stacks to 6.3 on the same build and H40 modifiers is a pretty drastic difference

[ripe obsidian]

And another, same build, no smoke vet.

[wind spruce]

Thats fucked

[ripe obsidian]

also we lost that last one because I think a c spawn pushed a burster back at me after I shoved it.

I shoved and shrieked to be safe, and it got ping-ponged back

I am starting to regret taking anything that isn't Trauma or Inferno in M21 maps. Most teams struggle to deal with the density.

[pale prairie]

Holy shit that’s kind of insane

[cloud folio]

why is it called rat

[ripe obsidian]

the player's username is Rat

[cloud folio]

ahhh lol

so mobile psyker

[pale prairie]

Nah it’s a literal rat

https://tenor.com/view/wanna-be-friends-stuart-little-up-for-a-friendship-columbia-pictures-100-gif-13008828882750338597

[cloud folio]

rats are incredibly mobile

[cloud folio]

melee psyker?

[ripe obsidian]

Meleeker can do okay into M21, mostly because FGS's warp slash has infinite cleave

[pale prairie]

what if you never get more than 5 stacks of DD?

[ripe obsidian]

you have a worse time

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-sciebcr-science-too-tight-gif-12755645

[wind spruce]

Cant you just run wrath?

[ripe obsidian]

If you're a nerd

[wind spruce]

Fk

Does anyone know what mod gives these player healthbars?

[long saddle]

I only see compression artefacts

[wind spruce]

Idk why thats happening

[long saddle]

oh you mean your own healthbar

possibly this together with custom hud https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/154

[hoary mauve]

Is there an updated version of The Psyker Atheneum for blessings etc?

[deft stump]

You ping @ripe obsidian Lul.

[little coyote]

Psychers, you know that really dumb penance about picking up dead people's stuff? We have the power to help people with that. If you're going to use a medicare in a sanctuary, before you do it. Blow yourself up.

Do it for the emperor.

Alternative, just got two cycles to go back and forth.

[long saddle]

should prob run crystalline will in that case

[radiant frigate]

no we just ask a trusted sibling or consult the voices

[wraith sphinx]

I love this psyker build

[buoyant maple]

this whole mechanic is how vet used to cope with abysmal dogshit stamina management

(and we still kinda do atm)

[wind spruce]

just get hit to not get hit bro

its so obvious

[radiant frigate]

what the flop

[patent steeple]

I think I either met a Seer Psyker named Sheogorath in a match one time or just saw one in a youtube vid (idr anymore), and I think that name is very fitting for Seer because of the charater its referencing...

[radiant frigate]

was he dancing the fishstick

[zealous wing]

there is indeed a psyker on eu named thus

[wary vessel]

Hello guys none of my sword stats are 80 the highest number is 78 does the 2% matter that much?

[radiant frigate]

no but you will have to live with the knowledge that it is not perfect

[wary vessel]

Oh well that's not a problem for me lol as long as it works

[thorn cedar]

Just know that everyone will think less of you forever.

[dire wharf]

May as well just uninstall the game

[wary vessel]

They already do😂

I'm a wretch

[radiant frigate]

fucked up little creature

[marble crater]

It won't matter until that one poxwalker survives with 1 hp and gives you a hit that leads to your death

[radiant frigate]

irrelevant until proven relevant (death)

or the crusher barely survives instead of getting oneshot

and then turns you into a psykic pancake

[thorn cedar]

Mmmmm. Psychic pancakes

[radiant frigate]

when you can hear it screaming in your mind but the voice is muffled by maple syrup (and it tastes so right)

[thorn cedar]

Now with chocolate chip!

[fossil bridge]

I prefer playing hive scum but after some really bad auric pubs I swapped back to psyker and goddamn flame staff hard carries at times.

Crit flame staff with venting shriek. You know how it goes.

Also flame staff got me the 120 kills in 30 seconds penance finally. Previously it had me at 119/120. @-@

[thorn cedar]

oh yeah very good for that penance

[fossil bridge]

Got it in clandestum Gloriana during the early section where you have to wait for the power conduits. I sat in a corner and torches everything and it finally popped up.

Being at 119/120 was absolutely maddening and driving me crazy.

[thorn cedar]

i have been at 14/15 for um

i forget the name h/o

flawless execution

for like three years now

and i literally did have it, but as a joke i blew myself off a ledge after killing the captain at the end of oubliette

three years

three years that one off joke has denied me this achievement

every day i must face my shame

[fossil bridge]

Is that the malice one without dying or being downed or whatever?

[thorn cedar]

yea

[fossil bridge]

You can cheese that in expeditions if you need to.

[thorn cedar]

dont wanna

i dont care that much but its funny as fuck to see it's still at 14/15

and my mind is sent right back

[fossil bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[thorn cedar]

to me blowing my own ass up

[fossil bridge]

Considering your name.

I used the expeditions trick to speed run the auric exemplar penance, im a penance hunter mind you. Thats my main way of engaging with the game, it turns every mission in to a game within a game as I try to maximize all my penance gains. It’s really fun.

[cursive shell]

going back and forth on the bubble. When things are good shriek is great, but when things are bad the bubble is such a useful crutch. Played a few pug rounds where our vet was running executioner stance for some reason, and when I switched to bubble we went from barely clearing to easily clearing

[fossil bridge]

I had a second psyker with me last night. They were bubble flame staff and i was shriek flame staff. Probably the easiest hi intensity mission I’ve ever had. It was wonderful.

[cursive shell]

yeah sometimes the dual psyker can be goated, really just depends on what else you got going on

for my money it's hard to beat the tauntgryn, shout/krak, shrieker, and one comfy flex spot depending on the condition

usually a zealot although I kinda don't understand that class lol

[cosmic sigil]

@teal fog

[cursive shell]

Got very close to true survivor last night in the carnival, we made it all the way to the very end and then died 6 times in the last 10 minutes - still cleared though so we take it

[fossil bridge]

My ideal is flame shriek or flame bubble psyker, shout krak veteran, boom needle pistol hive scum, and break the line arbites.

[cursive shell]

man If I could even find a BTL arbi I'd be so happy! seems like even in the 35+ havocs people are still running castigators, nuncio, or shock dog

[teal fog]

i linked my hud tweaker settings in the description

[fossil bridge]

I love the shout and BTL stagger combo while flame spray is suppressing and staggering things also.

Creating even a few seconds to breathe is really nice. I haven’t hit 35+ havoc yet. I’m at clearance 26 atm. I got three levels this week from 23-26 so I decided to just take the reward coffer tomorrow.

[cursive shell]

Grats on the 26 ❤️ I found the 20s to be harder than the 30s only because both I and my teammates were much worse. 30 is a real chump check where you learn a lot and get much better at the game, and 35+ is gravy so long as the director doesn't decide to fuck you up

[thorn cedar]

shoutout to veterans who never put their gun away but still cant focus specials or gunners and waste all their ammo killing shit that's in melee range of their teammates, easily my favourite flavour of useless dumbfucks

[fossil bridge]

The folks on this discord have been very helpful with that tbh. I’m in comms with them and fighting for my life and these 40 players are just casually chatting.

[cursive shell]

ah yup I imagine it's a different world in discord. I've set the dumb goal of getting my personal assignment to 40 only using the party finder. At 38 as of last night, so close

[fossil bridge]

I’m mostly focused on the penances so whatever removes the friction even a little is acceptable to me. :x

I got to 20+ with the PF but after some losses I got frustrated and rejoined this discord in the hopes of getting more competent teammates

It paid off.

[cursive shell]

feel that, I wanted to put myself through the meat grinder of having to carry on my own. Probably not worth it all things considered but I'm too far in to change now

you do meet some people in the 20s who are addicted to dying lol

[thorn cedar]

I don't want to get good at H40.

What the fuck is left after that?