can't imagine how hard it would be to play this game with a controller
#psyker-class
cursive shell
rich elk
bro
dark pagoda
youd have to bump the sensitivity rlly high
rich elk
im ps5 gang
dark pagoda
trapper behind you from hell
rich elk
playing on a big ass TV
pale prairie
Because there’s no point talking to you about this. Repeatedly you have been show mathematically it doesn’t work the way you think and finally your last stand was on grammar and you were shown you were using it wrong but you ignored it. So yeah no point in continuing
cursive shell
I could see maybe ogryn or something like that on controller where aim was less crucial
dark pagoda
im creasing that "last stand was on grammar" is a point here? yes? you used a word wrong? i'm pointing out grammar
zealous wing
I could see maybe ogryn or something like that on controller where aim was less ...
i have a friend who plays on controller, on hivescum. not that severe if you're used to controller
dark pagoda
spamming "this" just shows you have no fucking idea what you're talking about, you can literally google "do multiplicitive decreases have diminishing returns?" and not look like a moron but that's too much i guess
pale prairie
Thought you were ☝️
jovial juniper
can't imagine how hard it would be to play this game with a controller
Pretty easy
Just
cursive shell
I see vets on console and just don't get how you can pick specialists like that. Must work for them though b/c they're doing fine in the mid 30s
dark pagoda
Thought you were ☝️
yeah my bad
cursive shell
give me a controller and I'd probably cap out on heresy
rich elk
is it really?
dark pagoda
only have an A-level in maths what do i know
dark pagoda
give me a controller and I'd probably cap out on heresy
u could probably get used to it
super sensitivity with micro movements
rich elk
Turn off aim assist
IVE HAD IT ON THE WHOLE TIME. GUH
marble crater
is it really?
Aim assist garbage? Yes
ripe obsidian
only have an A-level in maths what do i know
Not very much, apparently.
marble crater
Off or light
rich elk
whatever default is
cursive shell
played the turok remake on the xbox 360, which didn't have aim assist at all, and it felt impossible
pale prairie
Aim assist garbage? Yes
Sut you can’t turn off EK RMB aim assist
cursive shell
resorted to parrying with the knife
rich elk
i figured pc was better so they made aim assist useful
GUESS NOT
imagine making aim assist and not assist
marble crater
Default anything for controller is garbage in this game. Aim assist to light and layout Alternativ 1
jovial juniper
IVE HAD IT ON THE WHOLE TIME. GUH
I aimed at gunner my cross hair got yanked to the side to aim at some closers poxxer
I was like yikes
cursive shell
more importantly, couldn't imagine playing without mods! There is so much visual clutter in this game
dark pagoda
Not very much, apparently.
you say "additive" and "multiplicitive" like it's possible for additive to have diminishing returns, diminishing returns are an aspect of multiplicitive decreases intrinsically, saying "ah yeah, my car uses the highest quality gas" and then putting in mid quality gas and going "well, it's still better than low quality gas" is what you are currently doing
rich elk
ALRIBGHT
dark pagoda
you had 2 other rational people correct you but i'm stupid enough to try and explain it in a way you understand for 20 minutes, so that's on me
rich elk
yall need to find common ground
icy breach
only have an A-level in maths what do i know
Grade does not represent actual knowledge
Just that you passed exams cause you remembered it & later on most likely not cultivated it
icy breach
Not very much, apparently.
🔥 🔥 🔥
cursive shell
the only thing that matters is your havoc rank. you must be this tall to ride
dark pagoda
Grade does not represent actual knowledge
Just that you passed exams cause you r...
sure but you have a guy saying multiplicitive decreases and diminishing returns are different, and somehow that additive can be diminishing
which is just untrue, if you use 'the amount of shots you can take by a gunner does not diminish' you could be correct
rich elk
the smart thing to do would be not to argue over who is right
pale prairie
I aimed at gunner my cross hair got yanked to the side to aim at some closers po...
Oh that’s why you aren’t perfectionist anymore
icy breach
the only thing that matters is your havoc rank. you must be *this* tall to ride
I’m short tho
ripe obsidian
sure but you have a guy saying multiplicitive decreases and diminishing returns ...
Yes, that is exactly what I said. I argued until I was blue in the face that additive math is diminishing.
...
dark pagoda
so to be clear you think adding things together can have diminishing returns
ripe obsidian
Sorry, let me try again for the crowd without basic literacy.
Yes, that is exactly what I said. I argued until I was blue in the face that additive math is diminishing. /s
rich elk
icy breach
Sorry, let me try again for the crowd without basic literacy.
Yes, that is exac...
Thx man; you got my back on this one 
rich elk
we gotta settle this
icy breach
rich elk
six with combat knife and cemetery with dueling sword
dark pagoda
we gotta settle this
it's been settled, he thinks its possible as a mathematic function for adding things together to have diminishing returns
zealous wing
six would win, my money is on him
zealous wing
it's been settled, he thinks its possible as a mathematic function for adding th...
sarcasm check: failed
even with the tonetag
pale prairie
six with combat knife and cemetery with dueling sword
PvP would be so toxic fo this game
zealous wing
BRUTAL
zealous wing
six makes data spreadsheets, i think he'd win still
dark pagoda
sarcasm check: failed
saying this to sarcasm has to be a bit
dark pagoda
i responded sarcastically
zealous wing
dark pagoda
im confused, so you're the one who needs tone tags?
i didn't put one and you didn't catch it
jovial juniper
Oh that’s why you aren’t perfectionist anymore
Perfectionism got good
Perfectionist got reworked into something else
So I don't need to make propaganda about them anymore
zealous wing
yes actually 
pale prairie
Perfectionism got good
Perfectionist got reworked into something else
So I don'...
So what’s the narcissist talent then?
pale prairie
That's innate in myself
Bruh we all knew that
jovial juniper
And also makes it so I'm never wrong
pale prairie
You don’t need to change your name
silent frigate
how about six with a calculator and cemetery with paper
mate I get your point but 1st curio gives 25 ehp second 31 and third 39 so its not diminishing you are just looking from a bad perspective
jovial juniper
Also like
dark pagoda
mate I get your point but 1st curio gives 25 ehp second 31 and third 39 so its n...
mmm
jovial juniper
The guy in pfp
dark pagoda
i can definitely see the confusion happening
jovial juniper
Is Hades 2 Narcissus
dark pagoda
let me try and rephrase from the ground up
cursive shell
salvage the bit
pale prairie
Is Hades 2 Narcissus
You think I look at Pfp? You’re all just pixels on a page to me
marble crater
Rude
dark pagoda
each curio is better than the last, this is what the math posted shows
never debated that
however saying it doesn't diminish is not quite correct, because if it didn't, the returns youd see on each curio would be even better
icy breach
let me try and rephrase from the ground up
I think one should stop digging once the ground underneath becomes hot you know; might dig into lava (alegory to your situation)
dark pagoda
so if i tell you, without posting the math, "gunner damage resist does not have diminishing returns" you would assume you take 40% damage, because diminishing returns is a specific mathematic formula
silent frigate
however saying it doesn't diminish is not quite correct, because if it didn't, t...
yes then you would be unkillable if it calculated the way you think it should be calculated
dark pagoda
i dont think it should be calculated that way
i actually pushed very hard back against it
because you know, it doesn't make sense to do it that way
rich elk
silent frigate
then its not diminishing thats the end of it ffs
pale prairie
silent frigate
dont argue with me semantics I am a fucking linguist
cursive shell
careful, he's an A-mather
pale prairie
dark pagoda
i'm using the formula diminishing return
silent frigate
logic also entails that it is not diminishing
dark pagoda
alr i give up you win 20 and 16 are the same number and diminishing returns doesn't involve multiplicitive decreases
cursive shell
we win everyone! victory!
zealous wing
when the music just fits the game perfectly
dire wharf
dont argue with me semantics I am a fucking linguist
Are you a master debator?
dark pagoda
ah yeah cause hours in darktide is totally gonna change what the term diminishing returns means
lmfao
rich elk
psyker chat?
pale prairie
alr i give up you win 20 and 16 are the same number and diminishing returns does...
There’s no…..tone tag…….
rich elk
psycho chat
icy breach
ah yeah cause hours in darktide is totally gonna change what the term diminishin...
For this game
YES
rich elk
this is the darkest tide
dark pagoda
For this game
**YES**
<:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
do we regularly bend what a mathematical term means so that it can linguistically fit a situation here
i was unfamiliar with your game
zealous wing
<:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
damn
dark pagoda
i owe you an apology
silent frigate
ah yeah cause hours in darktide is totally gonna change what the term diminishin...
well hours dont but I would take the word of a person who goes through fucking code and does math more than one who does not and have 148 hours
icy breach
i owe you an apology
Owe it to yourself cause you keep digging a hole you can’t get out from
cursive shell
he's given up like 3 times already and keeps yappin! someone call a reff this can't be legal
icy breach
I just wanted to warn ya
dark pagoda
Owe it to yourself cause you keep digging a hole you can’t get out from
hole? my hole is that you all think additive bonuses can be diminishing LMFAO
wind spruce
This is an insane argument
dark pagoda
genuine clowns ganging up on me like im not creasing at talking to morons
jovial juniper
he's given up like 3 times already and keeps yappin! someone call a reff this ca...
silent frigate
its like listening to a dude who is new to gardening vs dude who spent hours becoming a botanist and into gardening
dark pagoda
its like listening to a dude who is new to gardening vs dude who spent hours bec...
thsi dude thinks math only exists in darktide
what'd people do before 2022 clown
wind spruce
I cant even find where anyone actually explains why cemetary is wrong
zealous wing
vermintide 2
cursive shell
it's like listening to someone who is still in school
zealous wing
probably
dark pagoda
vermintide 2
truke
icy breach
hole? my hole is that you all think additive bonuses can be diminishing LMFAO
And yet in terms of this game… it works and thats the point - there is a reason alot of folks here laugh at the takes
manic bluff
silent frigate
vermintide 2
vermintide also
manic bluff
there you go, a rollign panda, now be ncie to each other
silent frigate
and any souls like
dark pagoda
and any souls like
i was joking but do you actually think mathematics was invented with video games
zealous wing
wind spruce
cedar pine
CHAOS
wind spruce
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/149112439116...
Is this supposed to prove cemetary wrong?
silent frigate
wind spruce
Because it doesnt
dark pagoda
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/149112439116...
read sligjtly below where i point out that diminishing returns in a multiplicitive function is an oxymoron because no alternative exists
dark pagoda
Because it doesnt
ah nvm u understand that
2 other rational people agreed with me but i am unfortunately autistic and feel the need to drill it in
cursive shell
Because it doesnt
main crow
I cant even find where anyone actually explains why cemetary is wrong
From what I gather they don’t believe that diminishing returns exist because it’s worth taking the bonuses anyways. When diminishing returns do exist, and they could just say it’s worth taking regardless.
dark pagoda
they already left the chat i recommend u to do the same
cursive shell
wack
pale prairie
Because it doesnt
sigh we were done with this bit. Hey Irosk I am gonna take off my rampage cleave talent cause no need
wind spruce
they already left the chat i recommend u to do the same
Wait wtf is your argument?
dark pagoda
From what I gather they don’t believe that diminishing returns exist because it’...
yeah pretty much exactly, there's diminishing returns but still worth taking, i was told specifically that there were none and got confused, they decided to prod me about how i managed to be confused and didn't know math
wind spruce
*sigh* we were done with this bit. Hey Irosk I am gonna take off my rampage clea...
NO I WILL NOT MISS OUT
rich elk
the arguement is whether im big gay or not
icy breach
I was expecting you to be au***tic; too obvious
rich elk
the answer is yes
icy breach
It is ok tho
cursive shell
the third curio gives you the most effective resistance but it's worse than the second curio actually
pale prairie
the arguement is whether im big gay or not
wind spruce
*sigh* we were done with this bit. Hey Irosk I am gonna take off my rampage clea...
And you should take it off its bad 
marble crater
Maybe we could also ping some other people who love to argue and keep this going for another few hours?
pale prairie
And you should take it off its bad <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168> <:w...
Oh well if the Evil Orc says so
silent frigate
diminishing would be if the curio 1 gave you 25 and curio 2 gave 21 and 3 gave 17 which is not the case
thorn cedar
math isnt even real u morons
main crow
When triple health curio Psyker
rich elk
tbis could be like a potential group therapy session
thorn cedar
you ever see a number grazing in a field? Didnt think so
dark pagoda
diminishing would be if the curio 1 gave you 25 and curio 2 gave 21 and 3 gave 1...
like
the word diminishing?
hell yeah
u are so right king
icy breach
Maybe we could also ping some other people who love to argue and keep this going...
Have some mercy on the lad; he gonna pop a blood vessel
dark pagoda
if you tell me i have 3 lots of 20 that do not diminish that's a 60, to put it plainly
wind spruce
Maybe we could also ping some other people who love to argue and keep this going...
This is the best of this chat
dark pagoda
if you tell me i have 3 lots of 20 that do not diminish that's a 60, to put it p...
which is what happened
rich elk
ALRIIGHT WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP
pale prairie
Irosk is chaos
wind spruce
Irosk is chaos
Thank you 
dark pagoda
https://tenor.com/view/smyker-psyker-warhammer-40k-darktide-gif-1832712957809458...
wtf did i just witness
that's so funny
rich elk
you boys need to quell your peril
ripe obsidian
This is the best of this chat
Psyker players are pedantic know-it-alls. It's our stereotype, no?
jovial juniper
Superior minds
marble crater
Psyker players are pedantic know-it-alls. It's our stereotype, no?
No, you are wrong
main crow
Had a smite psyker while I was leveling a new class in Uprising difficulty 
dark pagoda
why do smite psykers get hate is it just cause its boring
ripe obsidian
No, you are wrong
I'll analyze the code to prove you wrong about me being wrong. Hell, I'll make a mod that means you're always wrong. >:)
zealous wing
why do smite psykers get hate is it just cause its boring
it turns off the game
usually in the worst positions
main crow
why do smite psykers get hate is it just cause its boring
It’s boring, and 9/10 times they’re not actually helping because stunlocking a basic ass horde does nothing
marble crater
I'll analyze the code to prove you wrong about me being wrong. Hell, I'll make a...
That's discrimination, you know I can't use mods
dark pagoda
i never used smite cause it seemed weak
jovial juniper
why do smite psykers get hate is it just cause its boring
For everyone involved
zealous wing
its also deceptive safety rather than actual safety
jovial juniper
It's an extremely good stagger tool
That you essentially always have it
It doesn't care about cleave
It stuns everything that isn't a boss, red or green
ripe obsidian
Smite is strong. Smite is boring. Smite teaches bad habits. Smite slows down the game.
zealous wing
bad habit in question
dark pagoda
what if it did a billion damage
jovial juniper
Has a initial range of 15 meters but goes ad infinitum as long as theres targets
dusk timber
main crow
Smite would be cooler if it did less stun, more damage, less range/cleave
zealous wing
what if it did a billion damage
if it actually KILLED things, it be less of a problem
zealous wing
i am of the camp that it should be a massive AOE shock, stronger but similar to arby dog, with a cooldown function
jovial juniper
Because there's no enemy attack to dodge
dark pagoda
did u block me just to reply to every message
what if smite was blue
that'd make it usable i think
blue lightning is way cooler
zinc phoenix
the arguement is whether im big gay or not
The answer is clear: XXXXXL gay
rich elk
zealous wing
we have a blitz that charges up, a blitz that has "ammo", and then theres just, smite. having a blitz that runs on a cooldown would fit the variability in psyker
dusk timber
technically assail is already on a cooldown
dark pagoda
i don't really like assail for some reason
jovial juniper
what if smite was blue
There used to be a time were it would produce a cloud that would destroy frames
I think we should bring it back
thorn cedar
cause it ass
its right there in the name
zealous wing
blue lightning is way cooler
thats just staffbound smite, aka the electrokinetic staff
thorn cedar
(i love assail)
dark pagoda
why assail when can heavy las pistol
dark pagoda
thorn cedar
it is amusing to me that ye olde electro staff had the same discussion/issue as smite currently, where you just couldnt fucken convince people to not use it to deal with six poxwalkers
dusk timber
assail also really good for malefic momentum
cosmic cobalt
assail weave
thorn cedar
yea i do laspee with assail
zealous wing
assail is also really strong
cosmic cobalt
for peril and mm
dark pagoda
my hot take is that every effect like malefic momentum in this game is unfun
vet has it, arbiter has it
cosmic cobalt
how
zealous wing
malefic momentum is easy to maintain tbh
dark pagoda
i wanna use the weapon i find fun and not swap every 10 seconds for optimal damage
cosmic cobalt
10s is like infinite in this game
zealous wing
FGS slash is warp, the melee is not
wind spruce
it is amusing to me that ye olde electro staff had the same discussion/issue as ...
Also any unarmoured target taking like 4 damage
I miss that staff
pale prairie
There used to be a time were it would produce a cloud that would destroy frames
...
Do remember bugged infinite casting smite? That was a time
dark pagoda
it just reminds me of doom eternal where you swap weapon so frequently and its not like spyker has the node that makes swapping faster like vet does
and its just zz
dusk timber
i wanna use the weapon i find fun and not swap every 10 seconds for optimal dama...
just equip both a ranged and melee you find fun lol
wind spruce
it just reminds me of doom eternal where you swap weapon so frequently and its n...
Uh all our stuff is like instant swap
thorn cedar
i wanna use the weapon i find fun and not swap every 10 seconds for optimal dama...
this is the intended gameplay loop tho
thorn cedar
oh yea
dark pagoda
i dont think i would find this fun
thorn cedar
perilous assault?
pale prairie
this is the intended gameplay loop tho
No smite
thorn cedar
i cant even remember the name lmao
dusk timber
POUNCE!!
wind spruce
Youre supposed to swap every 1s on assail gunker, doing it every 10s is weaksauce
thorn cedar
50% faster swap speed on your 100ms draw time staff!!!! mega value!!
pale prairie
i cant even remember the name lmao
I only remember it cause I had to take it for the Empyric shock quell cancel EK build
wind spruce
Thats the whole fun part of the build
Blending your kit together with high apm and rapid threat assessment
dark pagoda
in 40 seconds u killed 4 gunner 1 hound 1 sniper and it looked like u were thinkin hard about it
zealous wing
in 40 seconds u killed 4 gunner 1 hound 1 sniper and it looked like u were think...
nope was pure vibes
dark pagoda
50% faster swap speed on your 100ms draw time staff!!!! mega value!!
i take the talents i think are fun
wind spruce
U should do that in 4s git gid
pale prairie
The lack of bulwarks and crusher in there is criminal
dark pagoda
i like doming snipers
zealous wing
i've played pysker a fuckton though so a lot of psykers stuff is second nature to me
pale prairie
Makes the arena so boring
wind spruce
i swap to heavy las pretty much instantly
And to assail and to your melee.......
dark pagoda
The lack of bulwarks and crusher in there is criminal
it wouldnt be a clip if there were bulwarks and crushers
pale prairie
it wouldnt be a clip if there were bulwarks and crushers
It would still be a clip
dark pagoda
And to assail and to your melee.......
swapping to fgs isnt very fast and adding a third to the rotation doesn't sound like it'd improve it
pale prairie
Jus a funny one
dark pagoda
lol ye
zealous wing
dark pagoda
throwing 8 assail darts at a crusher and doing 12 dmg
i should try the voidblast staff it looks fun
wind spruce
Yeah this isnt it sorry hex
pale prairie
throwing 8 assail darts at a crusher and doing 12 dmg
I usually only do assail after hitting warp unbound. With warpsplitting and all the DD SG bonuses they do a lot of work
Until they hit carapace
zealous wing
if crusher/bulwark, is what the rending staff is for
dark pagoda
why would you need both a gun and assail
cosmic cobalt
swapping to fgs isnt very fast and adding a third to the rotation doesn't sound ...
wdym
pale prairie
Ugh sg trauma
zealous wing
gun is movement stick
wind spruce
why would you need both a gun and assail
Because they do different things
They arent even remotely the same
dark pagoda
well yeah im asking what those things are
pale prairie
Such work
zealous wing
well yeah im asking what those things are
gun is movement stick
pale prairie
assail is for keeping up your peril without having to use special on fgs
Hah warp ghost exists
dark pagoda
i use scriers gaze and warp ghost i dont think i ever go belo 50
cosmic cobalt
Hah warp ghost exists
peril decay that the point lol
dark pagoda
why cant gun also be specialist and elite
cedar pine
wind spruce
well yeah im asking what those things are
Clear groups of enemies
dark pagoda
that's what sword is for
pale prairie
peril decay that the point lol
Yeah assail was so critical before that talent
zealous wing
gun for
dark pagoda
actually sword is just for everything
cosmic cobalt
it still is
wind spruce
Jesus christ
cedar pine
really? drama? in my psyker chat?
cosmic cobalt
but you can use bb with flayer now
cedar pine
dark pagoda
i like sword
dark pagoda
sometimes i pistol to dome something i can't reach
marble crater
really? drama? in my psyker chat?
"More likely than you think"
"Many such cases"
Etc.
zealous wing
Wait are you using **GUNNER RESIST**
no, because if i get shot enough to die, i'd be dead anyway
thorn cedar
people die when they are killed
zealous wing
and it doesnt work on stalkers or shotgunners, those are my bane, not gunners
pale prairie
no, because if i get shot enough to die, i'd be dead anyway
It’s called a callback Hexis come on
dark pagoda
wtf is a stalker
thorn cedar
lil shooter dudes
wraith sphinx
why cant gun also be specialist and elite
It can
cedar pine
you know what?
dark pagoda
like the pox walkers wit guns?
marble crater
people die when they are killed
wraith sphinx
wtf is a stalker
Chaffs with burst firing guns
thorn cedar
the fuck is this quality
pale prairie
zealous wing
scab shooters do not
they kinda do. they charge across the room to stab you with the bayonet, which is funny
cedar pine
the fuck is this quality
good question
manic bluff
like the pox walkers wit guns?
no such thing as a pox walker with a gun
zealous wing
but a h40 stalker shoots 45 times
dark pagoda
gunners are my bane cause havoc likes to spawn 15 and their coats blend into the background
zealous wing
if stimmed
thorn cedar
they kinda do. they charge across the room to stab you with the bayonet, which i...
oh true
zealous wing
and i do not like this
dark pagoda
no such thing as a pox walker with a gun
why not
dark pagoda
we should give them guns
wraith sphinx
You ask too many questions 
pale prairie
Because they have father nurgle only gun they need
manic bluff
we should give them guns
they woudl bonk you with it ... if they even hold them
dark pagoda
https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-18338667365126853250
would u genuinely feel rage over someone calling nurgle follower #422 pox walker with a gun
wraith sphinx
would u genuinely feel rage over someone calling nurgle follower #422 pox walker...
Yes
wraith sphinx
Like we would all transform into dreg ragers and fucking kill you
pale prairie
Whoa a fem astartes
dark pagoda
i like ragers
i think its funny they are literally performative
they're super fast until they get close
wraith sphinx
Same
manic bluff
Whoa a fem astartes
just an adepta sororita ^^
wraith sphinx
I memorized their lines the most I think
thorn cedar
they used to be faster
dark pagoda
gameplay design wise is it literally just to make them appear more scary than they are
thorn cedar
and it was a mistake
wraith sphinx
IN GRANDFATHER'S BLESSING... BE REBORN
pale prairie
just an adepta sororita ^^
Yeah I know just commenting on DUAL WIELDINGBOLTERS
manic bluff
oh xD
pale prairie
Most jacked sister
wraith sphinx
I also love scab gunner's voice lines
zealous wing
wraith sphinx
Strong helghast energy
pale prairie
and then they slow down
They used to always be fast and then everyone died
cedar pine
YOUR ATTENTION BLOCK FODDER
manic bluff
the mopment has passed though
cedar pine
credis go to @manic bluff
manic bluff
dun steal my reaction pics
dark pagoda
They used to always be fast and then everyone died
i would win
cedar pine
dun steal my reaction pics
pale prairie
manic bluff
i would win
of course you would
pale prairie
i would win
dark pagoda
psykers never lose!!
cedar pine
i would win
jovial juniper
but a h40 stalker shoots 45 times
It's so peak
pale prairie
I forgot how evil you have become
dark pagoda
femboy looking pfp btw <@373127739521368064> i like it
wth
dark pagoda
if ragers were to completely regain all the speed they lost... it might be a little tough
pale prairie
We have a lot more tools now. They made their heads a lot squishier and we have more innate toughness
They were different times
cedar pine
pale prairie
jovial juniper
I miss blender ragers
manic bluff
i did not stutter
jovial juniper
And deadly shooters
cedar pine
pale prairie
I miss blender ragers
Yeah now it’s “oh shit rot armor”
dark pagoda
does rotten armor scale on higher havocs
manic bluff
pale prairie
And deadly shooters
Ugh deadly shooters sucked
Just peaking around corners into a wall of red light
cedar pine
zealous wing
I forgot how evil you have become
look what i did to six
manic bluff
zealous wing
stimmed, then medipack while he typed
pale prairie
look what i did to six
dusk timber
pseudo geyser
thanks!
radiant frigate
vet has it, arbiter has it
on arbites it sucks
on vet you can do funny things with helbore (shoot to bayonet big, shank to shoot big)
pale prairie
Blunts doing blunt things
radiant frigate
i love the DR discussion
cosmic cobalt
4 gunner res real
buoyant maple
Waoh 4 stack gunner resist
radiant frigate
i love explaining why 20 + 20 + 20 =/= 60 because it's not + and it's multiplicative
radiant frigate
Waoh 4 stack gunner resist
the forbidden tech
frail oar
Waoh 4 stack gunner resist
We have the technology
I was curios how the scaling continued
buoyant maple
3x gunner resist gud
radiant frigate
taking 20% less and then taking 20% less and also taking another 20% less after that is epic
frail oar
taking 20% less and then taking 20% less and also taking another 20% less after ...
Gamer moment
frail oar
God i really went back and forth
radiant frigate
"just be normal" do you have any idea how big of an ask that is
frail oar
On that
radiant frigate
buoyant maple
If ur simulating u should write it as x0.8^3 in the first place anyway
I had this all written out in my guide
All of the DR values I have listed are in x?% form
zinc phoenix
frail oar
All of the DR values I have listed are in x?% form
Yah i did it for the exercise 💪
And work is boring
frail oar
Also i wanted it to be adjustable and feed back to the original damage/hp values so I can play with them
cosmic cobalt
4th curios slot would be insane actually
ripe obsidian
I think I have something working?
buoyant maple
4th curios slot would be insane actually
I just want 2 wound curios to be real
pale prairie
I just want 2 wound curios to be real
Zealot buff?
pale prairie
Martyr yea
But wait that’s a hugely buff to Psyker
frail oar
Oh my god the extra toughness for Marty would fuck
pale prairie
CRYSTALLINE WILL
buoyant maple
But wait that’s a hugely buff to Psyker
What for
buoyant maple
**CRYSTALLINE WILL**
Irrelevant meme build that does barely any damage
pale prairie
Irrelevant meme build that does barely any damage
buoyant maple
Oh my god the extra toughness for Marty would fuck
2 toughness curios + 3x 5% perks would get zealot toughness to 186.25 or 119.2
frail oar
Mmm with all that TDR im fat without the mangus
ripe obsidian
Just be normal and write it as x0.8^3
you're 0.8^3
verbal thistle
Irrelevant meme build that does barely any damage
have you seen the infinite peril glitch with it?
I use it with an EK build
ripe obsidian
Which mod lists havoc assignments in the chat? I downloaded Improved Havoc Tags, but I do not see the button to list the assignment.
ah, never mind, found it
wind spruce
I think I have something working?
Doesnt scoreboard show your actual crit rate?
ripe obsidian
Not the PRD in action
ripe obsidian
Pseudo-random distribution
buoyant maple
Pseudorandom ya
ripe obsidian
Yes make that six
I have a somewhat working prototype. It seems a little finnicky, but I think the Surge blessing is doing weird things.
you're welcome to test it if you want
ripe obsidian
It means the numbers don't always change how I would expect
wind spruce
I can try it after work
pale prairie
Mhmmm
wind spruce
😭
zealous wing
Irrelevant meme build that does barely any damage
but it would be FUN
wind spruce
Bully
buoyant maple
I have a somewhat working prototype. It seems a little finnicky, but I think the...
I asked AI about it and DT’s PRD has like integer truncation which stretches lows way above normal
buoyant maple
but it would be FUN
It would be fun if it did big damage
pale prairie
Just give it Ogryn nuke
kind jay
suipsyker is kinda fun with the huge ass spawns in histg
wind spruce
Perfectly Round Dick 🗣️
So, like, a normal one?
jovial juniper
I don't know
I didn't really think much about the joke
wind spruce
kind jay
technically a normal one wouldn't be perfectly round per se, gotta factor in the vei-- hold on the commissar is calling me brb
wind spruce
Just to be clear, normal is perfectly spherical not perfectly cylindrical
wind spruce
Hard vs soft is just bigger vs smaller sphere so I don't see why it matters
wind spruce
https://tenor.com/view/slaanesh-warhammer-total-war-gif-24197491
Would get sphered
wind wind
Thinking of going online for a round maelstrom with this build:
Anyone stupid enough to join me?
frail oar
Not with smite equipped
wind wind
I never said it was an optimized build lol
wind wind
Not with smite equipped
wind wind
I’ll do it into a havoc
How high were you thinking?
barren arrow
Empowered psionics smite isn't like, bad at killing
But using it on bubble might be a crime
And with only one stack of ep
zinc phoenix
EP wall BB is the goofiest fun you can have in Darktide
It’s quick enough to BB ragers as they melee you
frail oar
EP wall BB is the goofiest fun you can have in Darktide
This is my favorite build in the game. Knife laspistol EP BB BRRRRRR.
zinc phoenix
i went with oscurus voidblast so i could roleplay a wizzerd
zinc phoenix
how are you running it out of curiosity?
frail oar
Sec
dire wharf
BFG/Shredder autopistol for the BRRRRRTTT!
frail oar
Its usually a dog that gets me that way
rich spindle
I've played these games before
Pyro dodgeball
verbal thistle
I didnt realize how clean those 2 shotgunner headshots were
frail oar
Oh wow those were nice flix
verbal thistle
been playing CS
I guess it payed off
This is how you play CS
to practice for Darktide
pale prairie
Oh I’ve played with this guy before
frail oar
Found the desperado scum
dire wharf
to practice for Darktide
I decided to try my hand at soloing missions in darktide so I can get better
dire wharf
@verbal thistle how do you deal with situations where you have to reboot one of those hacking devices but the enemies just keep spawning?
verbal thistle
I dont play those maps
or I play invis or have stagger immunity
its why I love baross
high spawn rates + good kite routes + no obj where I stand still
dire wharf
thanks
wind wind
Of course I am currently at work so it’s all bluff
I'll be very busy this week and weekend but next week maybe? Havoc 30?
formal harness
verbal thistle
True!
rich elk
been playing CS
Tech 9 rush b don’t stop
grizzled steppe
does smite count as a dot and therefore bypass rotten armour dr?
ripe obsidian
does smite count as a dot and therefore bypass rotten armour dr?
No, afaik
marble crater
You should destroy them to find hidden gems
pale prairie
https://tenor.com/view/link-zelda-funny-memes-goofy-ahh-pictures-memes-funny-gif-3849978994181718307
crisp ether
What if I have pots ?
Rotten armor DR has nothing to do with ADMs
PotS does nothing there.
ripe obsidian
PotS does nothing there.
PotS does nothing there.
@crisp ether I did a 22 minute H40 with randoms and got one of them True Survivor. I think it was 21st + stimms? not sure
charred pawn
Whats the recommended blessings for duelling sword
The docs says nothing
DS + infernal staff idk if that changes anything
verbal thistle
Riposte (or shred)/precog/uncanny
zealous wing
uncanny strike for certain
also its usually paired with a force sword rather than a dueling sword, hence why its probably not in the doc yet. those took priority
charred pawn
Yea it said one over the other
Just don't have a good forcesword
Guess I'll grind for one
zealous wing
just keep an eye out for a warp resist dumped one, but for inferno, any will work in the meanwhile tbh
its mostly there for mutants, knocking crushers over, and push attacks to stack uncanny
pale prairie
Rotten armor DR has nothing to do with ADMs
charred pawn
just keep an eye out for a warp resist dumped one, but for inferno, any will wor...
copy copy
barren arrow
this is part of the reason the voices always tell me to use the followup
crisp ether
<@109528432425062400> I did a 22 minute H40 with randoms and got one of them Tru...
Oh Rawk's there.
verbal thistle
this is part of the reason the voices always tell me to use the followup
Use the followup?
Like force push?
barren arrow
yeh
verbal thistle
Ah, I wouldn've if I didn't already have enough space
barren arrow
there is no such thing as enough space in the face of a poxburster
barren arrow
I am aware
Still don't wanna be in that thing's postal code for that exact reason though
0 faith in this household
verbal thistle
Fair
At least psyker is so much tankier then other classes
So I can eat 2 and be fine
Vet on the other hand just dies to 1
Lmao
barren arrow
yer
Anyways
i would like to execute the rejects who keep shooting them when I try to be "Helpful" and "Push them away before they have a chance to jump at the team"
barren arrow
i got downed from being instabarreled & poxburstered by teammates in a 40 like, 2 hours ago
verbal thistle
A good habit that I share with others
barren arrow
mmyes today i will shoot the poxburster that is midair jumping at our team
death to john ogryn
brazen compass
i got downed from being instabarreled & poxburstered by teammates in a 40 like, ...
Arby got annihilated because the Scum was shooting 3 bursters clumped together behind a 21st horde in front of him
worthy wasp
Ye tbh I feel like anyone who shoots a poxburster should be banned from Aurics for a month
spice aurora
i never realized with fgs that push light is not just L1, its so horizontal, never paid attention, no wonder it kills so fast
sand path
is there a way to remove the sound effect from warp level around 90~100%?
marble crater
Mods, probably.
Or lower the peril effect in the options, it's for sounds and visual
sand path
thank you, wasn't aware this was an in game option
indigo plank
is there a way to remove the sound effect from warp level around 90~100%?
You don’t like the warp’s vine boom?
zinc phoenix
I shoot burster every time from as far away as I can but I never trust the team to push it because so many of them just stand there slackjawed
kind jay
shooting them when they are far is far more effective anyways they just die instantly and no one has to sit around waiting for a push
shoot them when they are near too. fuck the team. they shouldnt have been in the area.
white sky
I shoot burster every time from as far away as I can but I never trust the team ...
They're lining up the perfect shot for when you go to push it
kind jay
bonus: if theres an arby with dog, always shoot bursters cause that dog gonna play fetch with it anyways
worthy wasp
Shooting when far is good
When close? Should be banned from aurics/havocs for a month
ripe obsidian
Sounds like someone doesn't understand the bliss that is melee-range shotgunning
You even get a free trip on Pox Air for your trouble
pale prairie
Sounds like someone doesn't understand the bliss that is melee-range shotgunning
Pfff just use alligator stance. Next
jovial juniper
Sorry
Finger glued to trigger
And the trigger is welded to always be shooting
Honestly out of my control
dire wharf
I'm a little salty that I put off using shredder autopistol for so long because I assumed I'd not like it
deft stump
I'm a little salty that I put off using shredder autopistol for so long because ...
Oh yeah, did you ever get it done?
wispy oyster
I shoot burster every time from as far away as I can but I never trust the team ...
i like it when you are shooting a burster 3 miles away and someone runs up to it
main crow
i like it when you are shooting a burster 3 miles away and someone runs up to it
Same except for flamethrower guys.
static sonnet
Bursters are this easy. Look in its direction. Do you see a teammate? If yes, not your problem. If no, then its your problem. If all 4 do this, there will be no accidental explosions when pushing.
pallid kayak
Does anyone have advice on content to help me start my psyker journey....
pale prairie
Does anyone have advice on content to help me start my psyker journey....
Check out the pins with the bonanza builds
pallid kayak
Thank you
spice aurora
Check out the pins with the bonanza builds
Did you ask me about d claw few days ago I forget
spice aurora
I use mk 7 only I dropped the 1
pale prairie
Only tried mk 7 so far
spice aurora
7 barely kills slower on tough guys without parry but the parry follow up is goated on the 7 (stab then overhead)
But 7 kills faster with no cleave node than 1 does with cleave node against trash
Try hugging a wall for carapace and moving back slowly, only a couple overheads instead of 5 to deal with at once
spice aurora
I put this in scum chat but this is a full solo kill on h40 cspawn
You can see the parry follow ups mk 7 gives
The mk 1 is like some twat horizontal that doesn’t ever help for followup
pale prairie
I put this in scum chat but this is a full solo kill on h40 cspawn
Oh yeah I saw that. Crazy TTK
And totally safe
Still skullcrusher and hammer blow yeah?
spice aurora
I replaced hammer with shred
Hammerblow was funny but it dint help me at all xD
If theres a pack of overheads and I knock one mauler down, then I still have like 10 of them so it didn’t rly change anything xD
radiant frigate
Bursters are this easy. Look in its direction. Do you see a teammate? If yes, no...
what if the teammate inbetween you and the burster does nothing and it flops past them and ruins your day
every burster is your problem
dire wharf
Bursters are still my #1 threat
quartz barn
what if the teammate inbetween you and the burster does nothing and it flops pas...
Flame teammate in chat or just use thanks!
zinc phoenix
i like it when you are shooting a burster 3 miles away and someone runs up to it
I call that a Darwin Award in training
kind jay
i want an event where crushers weapon is replaced by a stick with a burster taped to it
and bombers throw bursters
and when burgles die a cluster of bursters explode out of it
and when bursters burst it spawns a second, tiny burster that also bursts. immediately.
fatshark feel free to hire me
indigo plank
Guys, I think we've been a bit hard on smykers
They've just been following the loading screen tips 
fresh pike
Can confirm
indigo plank
I've actually been seeing a lot more Voidstrike + Surge staff
Makes me proud to see those bowling balls go flying
fresh pike
If I didn't like lightning as much I would also use the bowling ball staff
quartz barn
I ran void a few times again when expeditions came out since a lot of engagements are outside of the other staves' range
But ngl still feels underwhelming compared to everything else
gilded hare
Honestly isn't that just the staff psyker experience on expeditions?
fresh pike
It's not that bad
lament fiber
zealous wing
Honestly isn't that just the staff psyker experience on expeditions?
inferno and trauma are extremely effective on expeditions
dire wharf
I have a serious problem with my psyker. I want to get all melee weapons max rank but I can't unequip my BFG 🥲
marble crater
Do missions with BFG, buy other weapons, use them to level other melee weapons
dire wharf
Oh shit! That just put a grin on my face. Thank you
marble crater
Ranking up to only green is best to level up mastery, and of course using the same weapon family
icy breach
inferno and trauma are extremely effective on expeditions
Everywhere really
I wonder if there will be ever a content where such weapons will be worse outside certain modifiers in havoc
rapid goblet
heyo, is wall shield still broken and has holes in it?
zealous wing
yes
frail oar
Nets and specialists randomly go through it
Its fine most of the time but it will get you killed
cosmic cobalt
shield doesn't block net
ripe obsidian
Yes it does
It's just super buggy and inconsistent
It 100% is supposed to block nets.
zealous mango
Net only gets you at most through the shield when you are very close to the trapper
same for bubble
ripe obsidian
Net only gets you at most through the shield when you are very close to the trap...
Not true.
Trappers can shoot through walls from any distance if the bug happens.
cosmic cobalt
if there a hole there a way
ripe obsidian
I saw a trapper shoot through 3 walls to hit Ainz
cosmic cobalt
I legit got trapped on like a slit window before
cosmic cobalt
I saw a trapper shoot through 3 walls to hit Ainz
skill issue tbh
zealous mango
I saw a trapper shoot through 3 walls to hit Ainz
Should have covered the wall holes smh
ripe obsidian
It's such a weird bug. I have looked at the code a little, but I don't have a conclusion as to why it's happening
static sonnet
what if the teammate inbetween you and the burster does nothing and it flops pas...
Then they didnt do their responsibility. While burster are a threat to the whole team and a responsibility of the whole team, I usually say whoever is closest is the one that has the primary responsibility because if others interfere its easier for someone to get blown up. Be it pushing it an one another by mistake, or someone choosing to shoot it without seeing another running at it, or it switching targets unexpectedly. What I said is not literally how I treat them, I always try to help my team, but the point is to use your brain and see where your team is and what they are fighting and help them to get into a position where they can push or you can push. Practicing breaking tunnel vision and checking on the team like every 10 seconds helps save lives. Idk I didnt mean it like who's to blame, just in general I say the closest one is the one who decides how tp deal with it.
zealous mango
Strongest psyker
ripe obsidian
Too much run, not enough poke
ripe obsidian
Then they didnt do their responsibility. While burster are a threat to the whole...
I just run away from bursters and make them someone else's responsibility. :D
dusk timber
I once got trapped through the morningstar
Someone thought it was a funny idea to bring back a trapper webgun from a mission
dusk timber
Strongest psyker
"Why did you jump"
static sonnet
I just run away from bursters and make them someone else's responsibility. :D
This I have done when teammates have proven themselves unreliable lmao. If i hear one and its not targeting me, im not getting myself blown up just trying to save you. I just back away from the kill radius and wish you the best
Especially when they are just fighting 3 walkers
dire wharf
Force swords should be able to block nets
ripe obsidian
Bodyblock the net so it doesn't hit the teammate it was targeting. Be a hero
wooden sand
Strongest psyker
The video froze on the moment that crusher came from the left with a sweep and I thought the pysker had died
wooden sand
Little did he know he indeed died
But it would have been funnier than being crushed by a up attack
cloud folio
Strongest psyker
ruined the game with 3rd person camera
zealous mango
thats spectator in 3rd person lol
frail oar
Net only gets you at most through the shield when you are very close to the trap...
No it goes straight through from distance sometimes
rapid goblet
Net only gets you at most through the shield when you are very close to the trap...
it's not really random as I first thought, it's just broken wider collisions
perhaps previous smaller shield also had these holes, but coz it smaller holes smaller too
frail oar
I think its angle related
ripe obsidian
it's not really random as I first thought, it's just broken wider collisions
pe...
Smaller shield did have these issues as well
They're just worse now
ripe obsidian
I think its angle related
While I think this is a valid theory, I am perplexed by trapper nets that go through multiple shields placed at different angles. It's like the projectile sometimes hits the shield trigger, gets ignored, and is then immune to being destroyed
pale prairie
While I think this is a valid theory, I am perplexed by trapper nets that go thr...
“Is this scab bullet? No okay it’s good to go. Get out of the way boys VIP coming”
frail oar
While I think this is a valid theory, I am perplexed by trapper nets that go thr...
Never played with another psyker so I haven't really seen the double fail. Whats more strange is the poxbursters that randomly walk through it.
ripe obsidian
Poxbursters also like to ignore pushes and refuse to explode
They're master trolls
rapid goblet
Poxbursters also like to ignore pushes and refuse to explode
also they can homing in flight
that just horrible
pale prairie
Poxbursters also like to ignore pushes and refuse to explode
Yeah ignoring pushes make me sad
ripe obsidian
also they can homing in flight
They are rude dudes
Originally, you couldn't even push them
That was added later
rapid goblet
that's horrible too!
dusk timber
Thats kinda funny
ripe obsidian
I believe it's why the original four classes shout to shoot bursters rather than shove them
Unrelated, I think Expeditions would benefit a lot from more close-quarters areas. Some tunnels or cave systems or something. As it stands, it's like 90% open space, which doesn't gel well with the melee-focused combat system and overall paucity of ammo
rapid goblet
perhaps FS has something like this on next rotations of expeditions
ripe obsidian
That would be good. I hope it's not just a rotation of modifiers on the same map layouts.
Did the dog modifier last night, and it was obnoxious. They just don't stop spawning.
rapid goblet
That would be good. I hope it's not just a rotation of modifiers on the same map...
that would be so sad
pale prairie
Unrelated, I think Expeditions would benefit a lot from more close-quarters area...
Nah na na I have been assured that the presence of rot armor indicates the game is actually punishing melee focused combat
ripe obsidian
Fatshark is great at finding new ways to disappoint us.
rapid goblet
Did the dog modifier last night, and it was obnoxious. They just don't stop spaw...
oh, I sometimes forgot to unselect quick play and get myself into tornado+dogs+more sites, that is horror
ripe obsidian
Nah na na I have been assured that the presence of rot armor indicates the game ...
I mean, the existence of Rot and Blight are both weirdly punishing to melee users.
ripe obsidian
oh, I sometimes forgot to unselect quick play and get myself into tornado+dogs+m...
I would enjoy more sites with a coordinated team. It would be a fun challenge to get everything. I just wish tech remnants could be used for an Expeditions-specific talent tree. Like, bonus movement speed, or discounted loot in the stores, or ammo regen on crits, or whatever.
There's a weird lack of meaningful progression in the game mode. I guess they were trying to avoid a Weaves situation where it's a totally separate progression system.
rapid goblet
this, yes, there should be some progression with bonuses
ripe obsidian
Or use Tech Remnants to upgrade orange weapons to red, but people would complain about being forced to do expeditions to unlock the best weapons.
rapid goblet
expeditions as it is now looks like beta test
ripe obsidian
I like the general idea of Expeditions, and I like the gameplay loop, but it's kinda meh with randoms. As you say, it feels like a beta. Unfinished and lacking polish.
It's been over a year since we got a normal map.
ripe obsidian
You are correct
Which is why I think a progression tree for Expeditions would be a decent idea, because it doesn't replace your existing talents and gear
pale prairie
What if instead tech remnants were tied to a rank…1-40 and every season they reset and you had to get more tech remnants to reach 40 again. And there were titles and cosmetics associated with the highest ranks
/s
ripe obsidian
What a revelatory idea. I particularly like the ranks resetting each season.
pale prairie
What a revelatory idea. I particularly like the ranks resetting each season.
Wait wait that’s not all. It also goes down if you lose too many times
Even if you already reached 40
ripe obsidian
Of course! The heretics steal your tech, you see.
pale prairie
They kill you and take your wallet
ripe obsidian
(Though in a real extraction shooter, I think you do permanently lose gear on death)
pale prairie
Why not just add chaos wastes 2.0
Because the Darktide team has no idea how the vermintide 2 team pulled that off /s
jovial juniper
https://tenor.com/view/arcraiders-arc-tarkov-gif-4047999324575620030
Bro got third wheeled
💀
ripe obsidian
Why not just add chaos wastes 2.0
Fatshark seems to dislike repeating their successes
There seems to be some internal push to always do something new
pale prairie
Bro got third wheeled
The true cruelty of 3 man squads instead of 4
ripe obsidian
Kanye just got banned from the UK for the public good.
pale prairie
H40 trios can be very fun
Can be. Or they can be very short
pale prairie
Kanye just got banned from the UK for the public good.
Damn the brexit country banned him?
ripe obsidian
Damn the brexit country banned him?
pale prairie
Whoooooaaaa that’s crazy. Burning money for moral stands? How unbureacratic
ripe obsidian
Even billionaires can burn too many bridges, I guess
pale prairie
Wow the whole festival
ripe obsidian
Can be. Or they can be very short
Part of the fun of Havoc 40 is the lack of stakes, imo. It's why the climb sucks.
pale prairie
Even billionaires can burn too many bridges, I guess
It’s really because he ain’t a billionaire. Not one of us /s
ripe obsidian
If you aren't trying to get levels, materials, or other rewards, losing isn't really a big deal. It can be tilting depending on how you lose, like if it's right at the end, but it happens
zinc phoenix
https://www.npr.org/2026/04/07/nx-s1-5776646/ye-kanye-west-travel-ban-uk-wireles...
The stuff he’s said is dumb and racist. Banning someone’s travel because the government didn’t like what they said is also dumb and will clearly be used against people on the other side of the political spectrum when govt changes hand
pale prairie
If you aren't trying to get levels, materials, or other rewards, losing isn't re...
I try to tell that to my frog friends but they just keep blaming themselves and getting frustrated
ripe obsidian
The stuff he’s said is dumb and racist. Banning someone’s travel because the gov...
I think the issue here is that they fear he will use his platform to incite problems in the UK in a particularly delicate political time, especially regarding Jewish people. I agree that once a political weapon is out of the box, it doesn't go back in, but I am going to stop here to avoid getting myself in trouble.
pale prairie
The stuff he’s said is dumb and racist. Banning someone’s travel because the gov...
I think the content of the comments are important and the source especially. In the same way that having someone people listen to and trust like a firefighter screaming fire in a crowded building is a crime. I think that using one’s gigantic platform to advocate for violence against any people group is bad.
ripe obsidian
I try to tell that to my frog friends but they just keep blaming themselves and ...
That's totally different. If I blame myself enough, I won't repeat my mistakes. 🙃
pale prairie
But yeah that’s enough of that
ripe obsidian
Though I did have a pseudo-duo of H40 with bruh moment a few weeks ago
ripe obsidian
The one where he was gun scum with dual stubbers and I was melee scum, and our teammates died 24 times between them.
pale prairie
Though I did have a pseudo-duo of H40 with bruh moment a few weeks ago
I remember you were quite proud
zinc phoenix
I think the content of the comments are important and the source especially. In ...
Kanye is an idiot, arrest him if he tries to incite violence as that is a standard tool in the kit of a common law country. Banning travel because of a viewpoint is an extremely dangerous precedent.
marble crater
Entering foreign countries despite being a cunt is not a right, ban him
zinc phoenix
Entering foreign countries despite being a cunt is not a right, ban him
Everyone is a cunt from a particular point of view
pale prairie
Kanye is an idiot, arrest him if he tries to incite violence as that is a standa...
It’s….Kanye you think he is gonna keep his mouth shut? Also it’s their country? I think they can do whatever they want when it comes to travel visas. Sort of like the US
ripe obsidian
I remember you were quite proud
It was a good win. I did die twice, both at the end, because I think 50 minutes of semi-duo scum is just mentally taxing. Died by dodging the wrong way to a burster, then by cornering myself and being unable to cleave through the M21 (I think) hordes
zinc phoenix
Reform could easily decide they don’t like trans activists and think they pose a risk to public safety so can’t travel. There’s no appeal, it’s pure arbitrary rule
Incredibly bad precedent
pale prairie
Everyone is a cunt from a particular point of view
So because everyone is a cunt no one is and law and order are not necessary because we are all equally bad?
zinc phoenix
So because everyone is a cunt no one is and law and order are not necessary beca...
We arrest people because they broke a law, not because we think they might in the future
pale prairie
Reform could easily decide they don’t like trans activists and think they pose a...
You’re right the only thing stopping those people was that the other side hadn’t done it looks at conservative agendas worldwide
pale prairie
We arrest people because they broke a law, not because we think they might in th...
He wasn’t arrested he was told not to come
zinc phoenix
Well, I can’t force people to understand why setting bad precedent is dangerous so I guess it’s off we go merrily down the road to hell
ripe obsidian
I would recommend not being political in Psyker chat. I shouldn't have brought this up in the first place, that's my fault
marble crater
I also don't want problematic people in my apartment
You can let the mob into your house if you want, but not me thanks
pale prairie
True
pale prairie
I also don't want problematic people in my apartment <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771883229...
I am gonna make you let them in
marble crater
frail oar
Well, I can’t force people to understand why setting bad precedent is dangerous ...
They did it to Tyler the Creator before as well
I get what you are saying.
dusk timber
What about tyler the destroyer
pale prairie
He was actually a nice young man there was a parade for him and everything
frail oar
Yea he's going places
zinc phoenix
They did it to Tyler the Creator before as well
It always starts with the worst, most visible types and then gets extended slowly until it’s almost everyone at risk. Suddenly government has the right to scan an average person’s social media to make sure they’re not a danger of violence, with everything defined according to the whims and politics of the government of the day.
But it’s ok, we got there with the very best of intentions!
Remember when British people had the right to comment on the internet without having to show ID?
frail oar
Yerp. All it takes is a few shitheads at the wheel for policies like that to be abused.
zinc phoenix
Nah it’s worse, it’s just the inevitable consequence of power
ripe obsidian
In the ancient Roman Republic, a man named Tiberius Gracchus was falsely accused of seeking to be a king and was beaten to death with stones and broken pieces of furniture.
He was trying to circumvent re-election laws to get another term, which he wasn't supposed to be able to hold, which he claimed was to protect the laws he put into place, but his opponents decried as him seeking to overthrow the Republic
Well, "laws" is the wrong word
I believe it was Mos Maiorum (sp?), which was an unwritten code of conduct that people were expected to follow
And there was no proper legal recourse should someone simply reject the code
Hence, beaten to death and body thrown in the river
The Romans were a deeply violent and dramatic people
They played at being civilized while subjugating and enslaving anyone they could reach
quartz barn
This was also 2150 years ago
Cant apply current norms and values to that
They just solved their issues like ogryn, with a rock
pale prairie
They played at being civilized while subjugating and enslaving anyone they could...
I dunno if you can define it as playing at being civilized. Law, philosophy, medicine, politics, architecture, and science. They made strides in all of them that are still felt today. Certainly there was a dark side to them but so with all civilizations in history and modernity
frail oar
The experiments of unit 731 and similar outfits furthered medical knowledge but that doesnt make the behavior civilized
The way we pursue a goal or ideal is as important as the goal or ideal.
ripe obsidian
Cant apply current norms and values to that
It is true. It's dangerous to apply one culture's norms to another, especially in a different era. But I would say extrajudicial murder and disposing of the body in the river is generally a poor outcome, regardless the time and place
ripe obsidian
I dunno if you can define it as playing at being civilized. Law, philosophy, med...
They were deeply violent people with a culture of war and conquest, which resulted in them making significant advances in warfare and using that to steal ideas from cultures they wiped out. To oversimplify immensely. It's a very complicated topic. But if nothing else, they mongered many a war
frail oar
Giving viltrumite
pale prairie
They were deeply violent people with a culture of war and conquest, which result...
They were a violent people in a world of violent peoples. They were just very successful at it. I’d be curious what ideas they “stole” from other cultures. That’s a hard thing to track and establish who invented what when. Concrete for instance I have not heard of anywhere else I don’t doubt parallel development certainly. Warmongering is certainly not a unique trait among the world’s peoples. I encourage you to look into some eastern histories some time.
dire wharf
The experiments of unit 731 and similar outfits furthered medical knowledge but ...
Ball knowledge right there, not many people know about 731
I wish I didn't
ripe obsidian
They were a violent people in a world of violent peoples. They were just very su...
Humans are violent?
pale prairie
The experiments of unit 731 and similar outfits furthered medical knowledge but ...
Okay? So the goal with 731 was proving racial superiority. The “goal” of Roman civilization was providing safety and wealth to its citizens???
pale prairie
Humans are violent?
Tell me about the burninate in your simulator?
ripe obsidian
Okay? So the goal with 731 was proving racial superiority. The “goal” of Roman c...
To some citizens*
marble crater
Maybe now is a good time to change the subject back to talking about how great Smite is and how everyone is wrong for hating on it
pale prairie
To some citizens*
And? I don’t understand your point with this. Taking a modern lens to one specific culture out of the context of their ancient setting seems weird
We can do whataboutisms all day
pale prairie
To some citizens*
*proving the racial superiority of some peoples
ripe obsidian
And? I don’t understand your point with this. Taking a modern lens to one specif...
My point is mostly that ancient Rome was a hotbed of inequality and violence, and I find it interesting
I'm not trying to prove anything
pale prairie
My point is mostly that ancient Rome was a hotbed of inequality and violence, an...
Yes America is a hot bed oh wait you said Rome
Fair enough. It was a fascinating time
ripe obsidian
Yes America is a hot bed oh wait you said Rome
Also I was trying to turn the conversation away from modern politics
By talking about something similar but removed
frail oar
Chinese history is insane
fresh pike
Maybe now is a good time to change the subject back to talking about how great S...
Smite is life yes
pale prairie
I do not know enough about Chinese history to have an informed take
It was crazy also famine is a constant theme.
thorn cedar
I do not know enough about Chinese history to have an informed take
this is a good summary of all chinese history
fresh pike
What does China have to do with Psykers
thorn cedar
they made smite
fresh pike
They did!?!
pale prairie
AND SWISS CHEESE DOUBLE WALL
fresh pike
I prefer my bros bubble shield ngl
buoyant maple
I do not know enough about Chinese history to have an informed take
the easiest way to understand China is to assume Rome survived
thorn cedar
the easiest way to understand China is to assume Rome survived
and then moved to sicily?
buoyant maple
u can understand a solid 50~70% of eastern geopolitics based on this info
pale prairie
Lmao what
thorn cedar
wtf why is sicily so hard for my brain to type
the word has now lost all meaning to me
loud girder
Implying people understand Rome 
buoyant maple
the only consensus on understanding Rome is that people do not understand Rome
thorn cedar
two wolves kissed in the truscan sun and then gave birth to spaghetti
its not complicated
loud girder
It's that easy
pale prairie
buoyant maple
but srsly like, the easiest way to understand China is prob to see it as a version of Rome that continued into current day
thorn cedar
mayhaps one day i will visit
deft stump
Will you be around tomorrow?
By tomorrow, you mean now?
ripe obsidian
the easiest way to understand China is to assume Rome survived
So more infighting, conquest, and ridiculous political drama?
plucky flax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Changping
Kingdom manga pog
ripe obsidian
this is a good summary of all chinese history
I try not to speak on topics I know little about.
deft stump
So more infighting, conquest, and ridiculous political drama?
That's literally Chinese fantasy war drama 101.