psyker-class

[zealous wing]

flashbacks to the clip i sent yesterday

[crisp ether]

ngl I've made builds on psyker with that exact thought

[pale prairie]

Yeah

[zealous wing]

all 7 wounds, blazing piety

[pale prairie]

I mean I had a bubble psyker that just could not stop exploding so that’s a problem too

[crisp ether]

No one will ever tell me to put down my funny shield knight with explodey bistol

[zinc phoenix]

Bro forgot his crys will and couldn’t take life anymore 😢

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/strength-strength-and-honor-gladiator-gif-26266140

[pale prairie]

Right? At least kill something if I am gonna pick you up this much

[zinc phoenix]

Crys will would be amazing if they added some free wounds to it

[zealous wing]

even 1 tbh

[crisp ether]

#psyker-class message will always find it funny when this happens

[zinc phoenix]

That way it’s just a one perk tax and not also curio tax

[zealous wing]

would also love if it counted specials too, not just elites

[pale prairie]

Give it a way to cleanse wounds. That would be fucking amazing. Obviously make it hard

[zealous wing]

those two things alone would make it much more viable

also bonus, give instakill on dogs and muties, so when they grab you RIGHT before you shriek they fucking die >:(

[pale prairie]

Actually no don’t make it cleanse wounds. Make it so you can infinitely explode at one wound left but if you go down instantly dead

[zinc phoenix]

“Not today dog!” explodes self to kill dog to crys will back up

[pale prairie]

Risk and reward

[zealous wing]

the problem

is there is currently no reward but funni

even at max buffs its not really that strong

[pale prairie]

I mean and killing heretics

Come on hexis

[zealous wing]

it can barely do that unless you REALLY focus on stacking buffs

[pale prairie]

Every ten explosions you can Ogryn nuke

[zealous wing]

like malefic

[zinc phoenix]

That’s the other thing. Periling out should do more damage baseline

[zealous wing]

MM, rider, scriers, can only do so much

[zinc phoenix]

It definitely used to and I still suicide charge but it’s rare I actually kill anything

[pale prairie]

Bubble knight is a classic

[zealous wing]

running with rending trauma to knock their hp down and give them brittle does help btw

but then, yknow,

cant accidentally kill them, and the trauma is faster usually

[zinc phoenix]

I’m full on flurry rend trauma these days

[zealous wing]

i've been testing surge rending recently for my fidget build

[pale prairie]

Wait wait scaling damage with number of wounds you’ve filled with corruption

[zealous wing]

still not sure its ideal, esp since the lightning speed no longer affects range

[zinc phoenix]

You’ve cooked, it’s perfect 👌

[pale prairie]

Lmao like some fucking mutated monster of martyrdom

Knife for speed to approach enemies

[zinc phoenix]

It’s one of those things where you’d have to be really crazy to do it but the reward would be there

[zealous wing]

i would be ok with that, IF they gave wounds with CW

basically its not something anyone is going to seriously run so they need to be goofy with it

[pale prairie]

I want to be havoc viable on absolutely crazy skilled people just for the streams

Notice I said VIABLE

[spice aurora]

ok dclaw psyker is cheating, another 1 dmg game but this took 0 thought whatsoever xD

[radiant frigate]

kinetically deflect your way to victory

[ripe obsidian]

Bet ya if ya give the build to 100 random H40 psykers, 99 of them wouldn't get the same result. The 100th would be Ainz

[quaint elk]

Uncanny strike or executor? How long does executor last?

[buoyant maple]

uncanny strike is way better (too good)

[quaint elk]

That seems right

I guess stacks 5 times

That's like +100% rending if you just hit the head

It may only last 3.5 seconds but melee engagements don't last too long

[ripe obsidian]

eyyyy, just got a sweet solo psyker clutch

[quaint elk]

I reworked my psyker so I can smite harder

[ripe obsidian]

based on this, it seems like I spend considerably more time at 60-79% peril than at 80+

[quaint elk]

Nice

[ripe obsidian]

which means the +crit aura might actually be better than +CDR

b/c 37.5% crit chance is a breakpoint compared with 32.5%

[quaint elk]

They word this differently than the extra dodge talent in arbitrator lol

Street Smarts
Gain +1 Effective Dodges and +25% Dodge Duration.

They have to explain it to psykers

[wind spruce]

I was going to contest this idea earlier

[ripe obsidian]

is it just me, or are backstab sounds really screwy right now?

[ripe obsidian]

I have the data

[wind spruce]

Probabilities dont work that way, basically

Wdym the dats

[ripe obsidian]

this is not

[wind spruce]

Data*

[ripe obsidian]

probabability

darktide crit chance isn't random

[wind spruce]

Pls explain

[ripe obsidian]

it's a pity system

[wind spruce]

What

The fuck

Are you serious

[ripe obsidian]

yes

your base crit chance, as listed, is not real.

[sleek crater]

it's just pseudo-random distribution, right?

[quaint elk]

I think you have a base depending what you attack with

[ripe obsidian]

it's called psuedorandom, but mathematically that's the wrong term

but yeah, pseudorandom distribution is the term they use

[wind spruce]

Ive run tests with hundreds of shot and it seemed to line up almost perfectly, but i cant remember what crit chance i was testing

[ripe obsidian]

With 32% crit chance (the 0.5 doesn't matter):

Crit chance starts at 13.4% and increases by 13.4% until a crit happens.
Standard deviation is ±1.4 attacks.
The maximum number of attacks before a crit occurs is 7.
It is most likely to get a crit on the 3rd attack.

With 37%:

Crit chance starts at 17.5% and increases by 17.5% until a crit happens.
Standard deviation is ±1.2 attacks.
The maximum number of attacks before a crit occurs is 5.
It is most likely to get a crit on the 2nd attack.

[wind spruce]

Thats game changing though

[ripe obsidian]

https://observablehq.com/@manuelblanc/pseudo-random-distribution

[sleek crater]

pseudorandom number generators essentially just force crits to be less likely when you've crit recently and more likely when you haven't, to put it super simply

[crisp ether]

Very.

I keep getitng chipped by things I know I should not be because I'm not hearing them.

[sleek crater]

in Dota there's been a meme for forever now about a hero who has a 17% stun chance on hit (Spirit Breaker) whose ability doesn't use pseudorandom distribution so it sometimes just hard chains stuns

[ashen edge]

Just play havoc with 3 man group that spam macro the whole round. Never feels so disappointed like this before

[ripe obsidian]

I just played Havoc as a 3-man because our 4th's internet died

we still won handily

and then did a sub-30 Aegis Station

27 minute H40 with randoms

[ashen edge]

Always enjoy a sub 30 minute run. Feels more intense and hectic that way

[quaint elk]

Why are so many psykers unable to defend themselves in melee

[verbal thistle]

Psyker is the best class to ignore melee combat

Infinite ammo, best ranged weapons, insane ranged stagger

So they never learn

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-14770887436103544323

[verbal thistle]

Yes

[quaint elk]

There's an amazing melee weapon, deimos mk iv and there's a whole talent that makes you even more slippery in melee

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-silly-silly-cat-gif-1731118170300952818

True

[rich spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/211203478284926976/1298231175243890688/caption.gif

[verbal thistle]

I prefer Dclaw but to each their own

[quaint elk]

What is it, the parry?

I like having mutie or crusher stabber ready

Usually I don't have to hold down hordes in melee, but lately we keep matching with groups of psykers in heresy

[verbal thistle]

Ye, parry fun

[quaint elk]

Twice is a coincidence

[verbal thistle]

It's so fun in solo mode with no server lag

H40 solo with Dclaw has been very fun

[quaint elk]

I would like to see a video of that someday

[verbal thistle]

Trying

[quaint elk]

I could probably learn a thing or two

[verbal thistle]

I don't have a Dclaw solo

But I do have other h40 solos

[quaint elk]

You should put them on youtube

Maybe use the captions to comment

[verbal thistle]

https://youtube.com/@ainzdt?si=kNKCF7Oe4F0peolb

I have posted them

[quaint elk]

Lol

I'll check it out

[ripe obsidian]

@crisp ether I just had a 24 minute chasm station, not using the skip, where I did 2m damage.

[buoyant maple]

wat are the major crit-chance breakpoints with DT's pseudo RNG

(I also would like to think that vet's RNG talents are pseudo RNG but grenadier and comp urge really do not feel that way lol)

nvm 20% chance on this pseudo RNG model can go like 17 runs before it gets a pity for grenadier

comp urge's pity is 118

hmmmmmmm

[wind spruce]

@ripe obsidian Wait does this mean i can sort of prime a crit between engagements

[ripe obsidian]

yes, technically

[ripe obsidian]

the only one that's "major" is 67% = guaranteed crit on 2nd attack

that I know of

[buoyant maple]

I asked AI to deduce model based on what u sent above

[ripe obsidian]

I have no fucking idea what the model is. The page in the code is just floats

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/f5799ac12f394397656fbe324012847b29513e98/scripts/utilities/pseudo_random_distribution.lua#L4

[buoyant maple]

ok fed this to AI
basically, same model as it was using but DT truncates percentages into integer (round down) which results in lows being super stretched out but average is ~same

no wonder veteran's RNG talents feel so abysmally inconsistent

[limber thistle]

Can someone ELI5 what is even going on?

[limber thistle]

Meanwhile me running ng around with the greatsword and the revolver because f-ck you heretics I’ve got a big iron and a BIGGER SWORD and you’re all about to die PAINFULLY!

I just love the INSANE sensory response of whipping out the revolver and snap-shotting some poor sod in the DOME from DOWNTOWN or through a cluster of mobs, before going right back to playing hack’n’slash simulator, lol. Like gah DAYUM, Revolver + Sword is SO much fun

[wind wind]

I dont have discord on my Laptop.

No, not bait. Just taken from the Internet without due dilligence or scrutiny

[tacit badge]

New to darktide, looking into psyker builds not based around staves and saw mentions of "gun psyker" and melee psyker, but it seemed like they were literally the same builds overall, is gun psyker just not a real thing, or am I missing something

[ripe obsidian]

Gun psyker is melee psyker

[wind wind]

Gun psyker is real. Melee psyker too. They just overlapp alot. The difference is If you wanna swing your sword or dump your magazine once youve activated scriers gaze

[ripe obsidian]

the builds are more or less identical

[tacit badge]

Oh, also is it worth it to just run brain burst solely for the passive automatic bursts, or is assail better value

[ripe obsidian]

just weapon choice

The automatic brain bursts are amazing

often 12-15% of my total damage on havoc 40

[wind wind]

Id say your blitz as melee/gunpsyker depends on preference and weapons choice. If you run a gun that can deal with carapace (like the bolt pistol) then you theoretically wouldnt need brainrupture.

I personally like using smite because i like having the power of turning the game off so my dipshit teammates can rescue one another. But alas, its preference.

[tacit badge]

Ig I should be trying to figure out the role of assail in a psyker build before I make any further decision

Ive had positive experience with it so far, but that's obv in low difficulty, what's the main use case of it in high difficulty?

[blissful crypt]

If you go for soulblaze brainburst is better

[wind wind]

Kill loads of trash fast and get your peril up. Thats what assail is good for.

I personally dont like it. But there are many here that do

[blissful crypt]

assail has best value if you use a gun or armor debuff staff with finesse damage

[tacit badge]

Do blitzes scale off weapon stats?

[blissful crypt]

or to supress gunners

[blissful crypt]

it did once with the veteran

[ripe obsidian]

staggering ragers, clearing trash mobs, wiping loosely packed shooters, and upkeeping malefic momentum

[ripe obsidian]

they do not

if you swap to a weapon while Assail is in the air, tho

it should take on the weapon properties, like +X damage to flak

[tacit badge]

Good to know

[blissful crypt]

There was once a vet build which you buffed your grenades with the explosive increase perk from the bolt pistol

[ripe obsidian]

yeah, that's probably still a thing

lethal proximity + rupture

[tacit badge]

How terrible of an idea is it to run shotguns on psyker

[ripe obsidian]

it's not optimal, but do what's fun

so long as you aren't trolling your team

[tacit badge]

I was intending to do it regardless, I just wanna know how badly I'm handicapping myself

Especially if we are talking like, double barrel shotgun

I'm trying to figure out what blitz would better cover that weakness, as the double barrel seems to be both bad vs carapace and for clearing out ranged enemies at a distance, so I'm wondering which is a bigger priority to address

[blissful crypt]

depens on your melee weapon

[wind wind]

Depending on your skills and difficulty, double Barrel shotgun with SG can be VERY FUNNY. Wouldnt recommend it on anything higher than auric tho unless youre exceptionally skilled

[wraith sphinx]

It's viable, just not for beginners

[wind wind]

Brain burst for anti armor/far away enemies. Double barrel for elites and specialist close up, force greatsword for anything else. That could work. Take scriers gaze as ability. Would be a fun build. You could run around meleeing anything and everything until you wanna pull out the shottie to saw someone in half

Honestly, the selection of your weapons is not as important as what you can do with them/how you move with them.

Kill the important enemies quickly and have decent positioning and no one will really care about your specific loadout

And should you for some reason have a loadout that for example isnt good at killing bosses or carapace, thats usually fine on anything below high havoc, just focus on any other enemy around the threats you cant deal with and take out those instead.

[verbal thistle]

Its so fun, we love greatsword

[tacit badge]

I mainly just want to be able to run at least 1 weapon I favor while also not being helpless in any particular situation

[ripe obsidian]

Double barrel is strong versus close, dense-packed hordes. The blessing Manstopper gives it infinite cleave on crit, and there's another blessing that gives bleed on crit, or one that gives bonus crit chance based on enemies hit.

You will certainly want a weapon to kill armor and bosses. Easy selection is Force Greatsword, but you can also use basically any of the weapons with Uncanny.

[wind wind]

Yeah, If you wanna run shotgun then that works.

Also, anything below high havoc, you can pretty much run whatever, sometimes you just gotta face the fact you cant kill a certain target without you'd team. Thats ok too. Ive ran builds on auric and lower that couldnt deal with everything equally well but i was fine.

[wind wind]

Also also, you dont HAVE to meta game on anything below havoc 20. You can very much have fun with off meta builds/meme builds on auric and below.

Also, do yourself a favor and ignore all the harcore meta gamers on reddit, youtube and this server here. Their thoughts and advice is severely restricted and uncompromising. Just use whatever you like and have fun. Can you optimize your builds? Sure. But there is no darktide police that will arrest you If you dont

[ripe obsidian]

Depending on skill, you can do silly and off-meta things even at 40

[ripe obsidian]

Hey, I resemble that remark.

And I will arrest you for bad builds. I am your king.

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-king-didnt-vote-gif-8051023

[radiant frigate]

it's not that I'm trying to be rude
but in matters of buildcraft it is difficult to keep the 'tism at bay

[crisp ether]

All of the shotguns are honestly pretty viable on psyker if you build around them

Even accatran, arguably the worst of the combat shotguns, can still put in work.

[radiant frigate]

what's the use case for the fire shot

[crisp ether]

It's not the fire shot

[radiant frigate]

i never understood that

[crisp ether]

Just regular shot

Since

There really isn't much use for the fire shot at all.

Except maybe helping with extra boss DPS

And that's about it

[radiant frigate]

lowering upfront damage to apply burn feels silly

[crisp ether]

It's not even the lowering of the actual damage

It's how long it takes to load a shell

That really hurts its utility.

[radiant frigate]

'tis unfortunate

[crisp ether]

I wanna like it more but

Eh

But at least this class just cuz you can beef it up so much

Can actually make it work

But you really are just better off with any of the other shotguns

[proper spoke]

ChocoB is a great example of this. His builds appear to be completely random, but he excels out of pure skill

[ripe obsidian]

Did a 20 minute run of Sycorax, didn't use exploits or skips.

:D

Sometimes randoms pull through

[crisp ether]

Admittedly

[ripe obsidian]

I will also say that I have been averaging 2m damage in ~30 minutes with Inferno + Shriek

[crisp ether]

It's been better this season

With the randoms

I just wish I had more time to play so I can climb and get my 40.

[ripe obsidian]

Having not-purple and not-rot and not-final-toll helps

Tho I did lose a rot map 3x in a row tonight. People panicked when faced with 20 crushers

[ripe obsidian]

Lemme know when ye play. I can try to help

[ripe obsidian]

It is true. ChocoB's builds often perplex me.

[crisp ether]

They play for vibes.

[ripe obsidian]

You are not rude, you are elf. Is merely an elfy drive for perfection

[crisp ether]

I respect it.

They're good enough for it so why not?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I can't fault them

Do what works

I want to play another rot map and try to win. Rending trauma + shriek feels like it works well, but the damage of RMB is so low.

Takes so many hits to kill a single crusher

Tends to be quite team reliant to kill them quickly

[proper spoke]

Absolutely. I wish I was more like them when gaming. So good that I can just mess about and have fun with builds, rather than having to fine-tune everything

@ornate hamlet looks like your accounts been hacked, my dude

[deft stump]

Rot is sadly in though.

[ripe obsidian]

It is. But the other modifiers are pretty easy.

Blight can be mitigated with stimm supply, 21st are chonky lads but generally not too threatening unless you have zero cleave or mobility, and corrupted stimms are only rarely a threat with the current damage output of the average team

Rot is harder than any two of them combined

[deft stump]

Rot and any of them is absolute bs though.

[ripe obsidian]

Waves of damage resisting crushers, yay

[deft stump]

Rot and blight, bs.

Rot and stimms, bs.

[ripe obsidian]

Rending trauma helps because it can quickly get past the first tier of DR, and rending carapace helps with almost every weapon

Team just got overrun and split each time

And died slowly, far apart

[deft stump]

I mean, 50 million rot bs does split the team cos won't die.

[ripe obsidian]

It is true.

[deft stump]

IDK why the devs won't playtest their own BS to see how unfun it is.

[wind wind]

I havent played havoc in ages

Just cant bring myself to it

[wraith sphinx]

Played a couple matches yesterday, regretted it lmao

Havoc has more noobs than aurics

[wind wind]

Thx for confirming my stance lol

[wraith sphinx]

Np lol

[wind wind]

My randoms were actually ok yesterday and the day before on auric. I had one ugly run with like 9 deaths and 3 ragequits but other than that everything was fine.

[wraith sphinx]

For the past several months I've had almost consistently good experiences with aurics. Routinely smooth missions with like 2 deaths max. Outliers are rare. Meanwhile whenever I would play havocs the only people joining my lobbies were ppl who obviously only recently bought the game

[wind wind]

I sometimes get players below level 30 on auric and that usually sucks but afterall, the quality of teammates is generally acceptable.

Also encountered fewer and fewer toxic teammates.

Maybe they are on the new game mode and havoc but outside of the edgelord zealot who called me a bitch for playing gunlugger ogryn a couple of days ago i havent seen any toxic behavior in a while

[summer prairie]

hotfix I guess

[fresh pike]

Exclusive to owners of Vermintide 2 intrigues me

[wraith sphinx]

Last time I noticed toxic behavior was from a bunch of shitty ogryn players who returned to play for a little while when that new ogryn personality got added to the game

[autumn scarab]

I was trying to do my havocs yesterday and kept getting terrible teams which forced me to switch to psyker because I was sick of no ranged control

and it became an exercise in just watching scum be the most OP class in the game

[wraith sphinx]

yeah that checks out

randoms love to act like ranged enemies don't exist

[autumn scarab]

setting up a wall that blocks gunners is peak

getting 4 bosses spawning in at the very start of the match is not

[wind wind]

Havent met a toxic ogryn player yet. Mainly incompetent ones. Most of them are very friendly

[wind wind]

Thats why I hate havoc.

Starts game
Runs around Corner
Twins spawn
10 toxbombers spawn at the rear
Where the fuck did that Chaos Spawn suddenly come from?

Fuck.

[deft stump]

This is just expeditions.

I saw 6 tox bombers in less than 5 secs.

The entire PoI was green.

Near perma.

[wraith sphinx]

Well I have had the misfortune lmao

Given everything I would feel zealot players would be the most toxic players on average, but so far the only really toxic people I've encountered all played ogryns

[wind wind]

What exactly did they do?

[wind wind]

Zealots with russian username. Never had a positive experience. Not once
Half of my blocked list is just that

[autumn scarab]

i had an ogyrn use charge off a walkway when i asked us to lock in for trying to do an auric with no deaths

[wind wind]

Lmfao

[barren notch]

Lore accurate ogryn

[autumn scarab]

most zealots are sp pve mouthbreathers with protag syndrome

[wraith sphinx]

The usual, be bad at the game, freak out at others about it, type or yell slurs at us

[wind wind]

Yeah, that nails it. They also usually throw a fit if youre not meta gaming. Had one insult me for being a smite spammer even tho i used the ability like 3 times in the Game only (for resing downed teammates). I was playing melee psyker.

[wind wind]

Ooof. Embarrasing

[proper plover]

why doesnt this block sniper shots :<

[wind wind]

It should. Did you have enough stamina to block it?

[proper plover]

uh.. how much stamina do i need O_O

i need to pull the clip up

[wind wind]

Also, the shot needs to come from the front. You can only block what youre directly facing when it comes to ranged. Melee blocks are 360. Ranged blocks arent

[wind wind]

Enough

[proper plover]

okay but now i need to ask, how does it interact with this

cuz i swear i had enough peril when blocking that frontal shot to the sniper

[summer prairie]

you can't block it

[proper plover]

god DAMNIT

[autumn scarab]

does warp splitting affect your electro staff?

[wind wind]

But why tho?

[summer prairie]

it's flagged as unblockable

[proper plover]

thats messed up :/

[wind wind]

Why can arbites and ogryn shield block it then?

[proper plover]

fatshark hates us psykers..

[summer prairie]

because they have block_unblockable flag (weiiird)

[wind wind]

I need a whiskey

Thats bullshit

[proper plover]

it is bullshit yes

[deft stump]

Deflector buff when?

Gains block_unblockable.

[autumn scarab]

because you're using blazing spirit with a min damage weapon

[wind wind]

When hell freezes over

[proper plover]

???? i just wanna block bullets

plus the fire is for other things

[scarlet garden]

Guys how do u staff psykers deal with monstrosities and bosses? Do u do hopes and dreams with Dueling sword since staffs arent exactly super good monster dmg?

[quartz barn]

if only deflector could reflect bullets

[autumn scarab]

melee psyker is kind of cracked tho

esp with brain burst

[wind wind]

Knife, duelingsword, rashaad combat axe, they all have decent unyielding damage. You need to hit the head tho

[deft stump]

That's a 50/50 for me. i have been gunned down blocking a single reaper with KD and too much stam.

[wind wind]

I feel like deflector works good against infantry shooters. Elite gunners and reapers are best enganged by counterfire/suppression

[wraith sphinx]

yes, pretty much

[deft stump]

Oh, it's the joke about high ping. Melee is better than ranged when you have 300 ping.

A lone shooter can kill you even while sliding.

[jovial juniper]

Yes but not in any meaningful way

So it's a waste

Unless you're planning on 44 cleave melee strike

[urban echo]

Is smite actually worth using in auric and havoc or should I just stick to my inferno staff? Cos ik some classes need dodging and stuff to keep up toughness

[obtuse dome]

Auric yes havoc no

[urban echo]

Why not havoc?

[obtuse dome]

Cause people will kick u

[urban echo]

Oh fair enough I suppose? What do you recommend for havoc just melee psyker or stick to flame staff for that?

[obtuse dome]

Tbf they also might barrel u offmap in auric

So watch ur back

[urban echo]

Do people just hate smite?

[obtuse dome]

Yes

They really do for some reason

[urban echo]

Why? Easy mode or cos it messes with builds

[obtuse dome]

It is kinda easymode i suppose

Because endless cc kinda

And some people get annoyed by that

I personally dont mond it too much

[urban echo]

Fair enough tbf i like to use mind flayer but it feels a bit useless in auric where there is like 12 ragers flying at you

[obtuse dome]

U can def use it in auric

Just dont spam it too much

[fresh pike]

Is it really that easymode?

I was under the impressionit wasn't that good because I barely saw people talk about it

[deft stump]

Unless you are absolutely shit at the game and cannot position yourself to not die from a random poxxer backstabbing.

[jovial juniper]

It falls off

[scarlet garden]

Ah

[jovial juniper]

Horde enemies get more mass and HP

[deft stump]

The real reason it sucks is because it ruins the game for others.

[jovial juniper]

Meaning worse ttk for smite

Worse spread

Worse stagger rate

[urban echo]

Ahh right i havent touched havoc yet but I wanna get into it whats the usual psyker set up for havoc?

[deft stump]

The best way to put it is. Would you find an entire mission where you are fighting only psykhanium enemies fun?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
It stagger everything not boss shaped and jump to an infinite number of targets

[urban echo]

No

I kinda get that tbf it is easy mode

[deft stump]

If they want easy, just play uprising.

[scarlet garden]

Also it blocks out bonuses from successful dodging etc

[urban echo]

Yeah true im just a bit bored of inferno staff but smite might be even more boring besides the palpatine cosplay

[scarlet garden]

I guess the only thing where it could be appreciated is a pox hound pack and u just wanna play it safe

[jovial juniper]

Wait for a mael

With extra specials

And bursters

[fresh pike]

I see

[jovial juniper]

And mutant

[urban echo]

I gotta find a good build for havoc if i wanna get into that that isnt inferno staff

[jovial juniper]

Take Warp Syphon

Take Scriers

Infinite Smite

[fresh pike]

Do boss enemies still take extra damage from one of the smite upgrades?

[urban echo]

Yeah they just dont get cc’d

[fresh pike]

Good shit

[jovial juniper]

Nor take any significant damage from smite

Because they usually have 20 mass

So you only deal 1 tick of damage

Every 2 seconds

[fresh pike]

Yeah I noticed that bosses and crushers and the like take less damage from it and are harder to stun (or just don't get stunned in boss cases)

[zinc phoenix]

Wall does that without disabling you

[autumn scarab]

question

the overload talent

is that talent bad

[wind wind]

Killing bosses is surprisingly simple. You go through your weapons. You klick the inspect button. You click at your attack patterns. You look at light 1, 2, 3 and heavy 1,2,3 and look in the tableau below for the unyielding damage on the different attacks (usually one of the heavy attacks has the highest unyielding). You compare the highest unyielding damage attack with all weapons. You then pick the weapon with a high unyielding damage number, go into the psykanium and practice your movement + attack combos to get to that attack the fastest (depending on the weapon the attack combos can be looked up in guides online already). You slapp the unyielding damage perk on your weapon at hadron and then you just go into the Game and whenever a boss appears, you whip out the attack combo that gets you the highest unyielding damage attack, and you repeatedly bonk the boss in the head with that until its dead.

In short, hit the head. Have fun

[jovial juniper]

Crystalline Will?
It's bad because psyker explosion is bad

[wind wind]

#suicidebomber build lol

[autumn scarab]

But it kills elites in auric

[wind wind]

Yeah but it also takes down a wound lol

[scarlet garden]

Ah ye

I find DS easiest for hs clicking but last time i did psyker i think i was on Force sword

[wind wind]

Unless you wanna wear 3 wound curios and gobble up the medicae all the time

[jovial juniper]

The explosion also has fall off iirc

So you gotta be really close

So you gotta overload and be close to the target

[wind wind]

I dont know the numbers. I would have to look at what psyker melee option has the best unyielding damage.

[jovial juniper]

And this scenario only happens to what?
Dreg Ragers

[wind wind]

It also depends on what youre comfortable with and what your build and playstile look lome

[jovial juniper]

Because Scabs are carapace body and the carapace body should tank the explosion

[wind spruce]

Scab ragers

[jovial juniper]

Carapace body should tank the explosion

Emphasis on should

What's the explosion adm vs cara

[wind spruce]

I thought scab rager took flak from explosions but maybe im remembering dots

Too many things

[jovial juniper]

Iirc explosions use body
Dots use center

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[wind spruce]

I think you're right

Its just i had in my head that trauma only had one carapace target

But that also used to be the case soooo

[jovial juniper]

Does suiyker use rending trauma?

Because brittle might help

Then add on all the +warp

[wind spruce]

#psyker-class message

Literally had a conversation a month ago i participated in lmao

[wind wind]

@scarlet garden acc to the Google AI the deimos MK iv blaze force sword has the highest unyielding damage combo with light attack one followed by heavy 2. So yeah, use that against monstrosities.

[fresh pike]

Google ai...

[wind wind]

Anyone in here have a video snippet/clip that demonstrates that?

[summer prairie]

surely deimos is higher boss dps than fgs

[wind wind]

Eh, good enough

[wind wind]

Dunno, i just took the Internets Word for it and ran with it. I would have to start the Game and look at the stats myself to verify

[wind spruce]

So you got your opinion from reddit

Risky.

[wind spruce]

The breakdown page for weapons lies

[fresh pike]

That is the way though

[wind wind]

Dunno. The Google ai said it analyzed the darktide metadata 🤷🏻

Idgaf tbf. Its trust BUT verify in here. If he/she dont believe me they can do their own research.

I dont sell information here.
I sell entertainment.

Mostly to myself

[wind wind]

🤷🏻

[patent steeple]

I never knew that until now for some reason...

actually, now that I think about it, which force sword aside from FGS is actually decent for boss damage? my blaze VB build lacks decent boss damage...

[deft stump]

Force sword obscurus or deimos just headstabbing still does decent.

[wind wind]

I also think the rashaad combat axe has decent unyielding heavies iirc

But no one uses the caxe anymore it seems

[deft stump]

Increase in hp didn't help with breakpoints.

[patent steeple]

I use it on gunker, but haven't played gunker in a long time

[deft stump]

It takes my scum 7 heavies to the face to kill an auric crusher.

[jovial juniper]

Vet takes 3-4

But it's likely because of inconsistent buffs that these classes have

Like psyker is fluctuating all over the place

[deft stump]

No, ranged build with only stam to aspd and hypercritical.

Though red/blu stimm.

Rending and gun for that.

Still 7 head hits to kill.

[jovial juniper]

This does remind me to test new Arbites with Rashad

[deft stump]

I think a rampage build might make it better.

Back then, was trying to find a melee to go with the whole, gun thing.

And was tired of shivs/knoife spam.

[jovial juniper]

That's

Weird

[pale prairie]

#fakescum

[jovial juniper]

Because Path himself consider Scum the best Rashad user

[pale prairie]

Path seems to think Rashad is the best melee weapon for Rashad

Yeah

[jovial juniper]

So uh yeah it might be because of ranged build

[deft stump]

I literally spammed shivs so much on release.

[jovial juniper]

Instead of rampage

[jovial juniper]

Tbf it was the only good exclusive weapon

Single target? Shiv
Horde? Shiv

Hotel? Trivago

[deft stump]

Mhm. Ended up using TacAxe lul.

[deft stump]

I know, other than needler.

[pale prairie]

#notmyscumganger

[deft stump]

Though that's more toxin being lul.

[pale prairie]

How do you like Taxe? Haven’t tried it yet

[deft stump]

On scum? Decent sidearm on my ranged build.

Probably better if I went tox build but then shivs.

I mostly use it like I use ds, agile spam to GTFO.

[wraith sphinx]

Arby felt kinda mid with rashad ngl

[jovial juniper]

Because Arbites is mid overall

Except now it has more strength buffs

Enough to 4 shot a crusher with a knife

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-chosen-jesus-point-look-up-smiling-gif-1939873255476969076

[jovial juniper]

The dog is cool though

[obtuse dome]

Arby still broken af

[wind spruce]

Im confused... how can this be true when everyone knows caxe is the best scum melee, nothing exists in its league or can remotely compete

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/amen-gif-5636900

[jovial juniper]

Karien said it's on her ranged build

[pale prairie]

This is real right you aren’t being sarcastic?

[wind spruce]

Lol i just scrolled down and saw you'd said similar to me

[jovial juniper]

Great minds think alike

[wind spruce]

Tbh im slightly mocking the idea that caxe is that good

[pale prairie]

Okay I am not a fan of it either. I tried it out and it felt good but mid

Felt like even with blessings it was tough to cleave through enemies. And hitting carapace I could feel the clang

[wind spruce]

Yeah i played one game with it and hated my life so went back to weapons that dont risk me falling asleep mid game

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[wind spruce]

So i cant weigh in on its actually quality

[pale prairie]

Is it just spam push attack combo to horde clear and then heavies for heavies?

[wind spruce]

But idk, path is so adamant about it and i dont believe a single other person who says that about caxe isnt just saying it bc he says it

He is very smart and has that darktism, tho

[pale prairie]

That’s why I was trying it out

[jovial juniper]

Rashad?
Light light light light light

[pale prairie]

Huh

[jovial juniper]

Then heavies for carapace and Unyielding

With the occasional push attack light light for Ragers

[wind wind]

Nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday

[pale prairie]

Is the special useful at all?

[jovial juniper]

No because the push attack outperforms it

[pale prairie]

Okay yeah I was feeling the cleave

[summer prairie]

slow attack speed, extremely low cleave -> top tier horde clear

[wind spruce]

Bromentum

[pale prairie]

I had bromentum but I didn’t have unarmored/flak like he recommends

Maybe that’s better

[jovial juniper]

It's really funny isn't it

This says a lot about blessings

[pale prairie]

It appears to have zero percent melee crit chance which makes me sad

[jovial juniper]

It has shred though (you'll never use it)

[pale prairie]

Yeah cause I need bromentum and headtaker

[jovial juniper]

[deft stump]

Ask Hex, lul. He saw me trying to clutch with it lul.

[wind wind]

After saying yesterday thatd id work on it here is my new EK staff build

Weapons are EK and heavy sword

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-confused-wake-up-squinting-gif-4201426486566488898

[pale prairie]

If it was me personally I would drop quietude to grab empathic evasion. But if you are cracked at dodging reapers than power to you. Love the build. I am thinking in fire reborn might actually work still cause you have perilous combustion and wildfire

[wind wind]

I will try out all the things. My idea was: heavy sword the trash to death with lightspam, get to cover once ranged enemies appeared, lmb them to death, repeat. But i need to try it out before i know for sure

Currently debating which heavy sword mark i should use

[pale prairie]

Yeah I would try them all they recently changed heavy sword a lot to make it viable but I haven’t tried them

From path’s guide turlotsky 9 seems to be the one to try first

[wind wind]

Currently tempted between nine and seven. Tried all 3 in the psykanium. 9 had the best mouthfeel too it

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/goober-dog-licking-peanut-butter-dog-peanut-butter-gif-9347315395605374271

Stop licking your sword 🗣️

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-valkyrie-thor-love-and-thunder-blade-marvel-gif-26177378

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-hot-thats-hot-gif-23312083

[ripe obsidian]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YQTn1QxCZ2s&pp=0gcJCZoBo7VqN5tD

[pale prairie]

Lmao

A classic

[radiant frigate]

you see my blade hs quite a sting

👅

i shouldn't have licked it

[pale prairie]

That tongue emoji is quite lewd

[jovial juniper]

You know

I'd was about to say it's just a tongue

But I can see it

Devious looking ahh

[ripe obsidian]

Everything Kat does is devious

[radiant frigate]

true actually

[pale prairie]

Elfvious?

[ripe obsidian]

Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.
Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.
Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.
Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.
Elves are terrific. They beget terror.
The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.
No one ever said elves are nice.
Elves are bad.

Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies (Discworld, #14; Witches, #4)

[cosmic cobalt]

average kerillian fan

[radiant frigate]

average mayfly/lumberfoot

[pale prairie]

I knew terry pratchett understood what was up

[wind wind]

Alright i tried it. Kinda felt like driving dads car right after getting your license. Feels good, similar to the car you drove for driving school, but something still feels new and eerie, things need practice. You might have let the clutch come up to early sometimes 😬🫠

Overall SG EK staff with blaze is really fun. However i apparently need to learn how to count to ten still

[pale prairie]

Hahahahaha I have a mod that fixes the Darktide buff bar so I can see the red icon of Precognition I know to stop when it disappears

[ripe obsidian]

I did an SG EK H40 last night and died 2 or 3 times. It was a very poor performance on my part. But it was also at the end of a pretty long session of playing and something like 3am. I had planned to go to bed earlier, but one of the people in the group hadn't hit 40 yet and we wanted to get him there

For some reason, M21 chaff tends to instakill me instead of just knocking me down. It's weird

[pale prairie]

Chat Six is cooked he must now be called 5

[ripe obsidian]

I am sautéed

[deft stump]

You are seven again?

[pale prairie]

Seven is his alter ego, evil twin, 5 is his preevolution form

[thorn cedar]

six, seven, five, this is way too confusing

im just gonna combine and shorten it all to sexe

[rich spindle]

i think they do corruption right

[jovial juniper]

There's an old saying
"The elf/elves deceived me"

By default poxxers already apply corruption
Then there's havoc hidden modifier that makes melee apply more corruption

[ripe obsidian]

All H40 enemies do 30% of their melee damage as corruption

But maybe their melee attack is just huge

And knocks me below 1 wound instantly

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, this is a good point. Stacking corruption on corruption.

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[summer prairie]

With lmb ek I sometimes run health curios and corruption res instead of gunner

[deft stump]

Sexy?

[buoyant maple]

I now use +49% toughness and +36% health on every class besides martyr zealot

Health just rly good

[ripe obsidian]

One of my deaths in one of those games was kind of funny. I dodge-slid past some enemies, and three bruisers bonked me mid-slide in an almost musicial procession, just barely far enough apart that the audio was distinct

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-playing-drums-drum-sticks-drummer-headband-gif-26346021

[pale prairie]

That moment when you are sliding and think you are invincible right up till your Ragdolling body reminds you that a slide isn’t a dodge

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/slide-fail-gif-19958886

[pale prairie]

American coded

[limber heath]

The nefarious hivescum talent

Play hivescum for 40s, get used to slide = immortal, swap to any other class and get squashed

[pale prairie]

Yeah I don’t grab it. I have enough problems with my slide addiction

[limpid lily]

is Becalming Eruption new? I dont quite rmb

[verbal thistle]

new yes

since they changed the tree last

[limpid lily]

so it's not new this patch?

alrighty

[zealous wing]

no

[cosmic cobalt]

man this is a downgrade

[thorn cedar]

downgrade from what

[rich spindle]

They don’t have backstab sounds, so you’re probably getting hit by 2-3 at once

[cosmic cobalt]

warp rider exist?

[zealous wing]

lol

i love when this happens

[rich spindle]

Not all peril reduction is bad

[cosmic cobalt]

the fact is you don't want peril reduction

💀

[rich spindle]

I forgot that’s the fact

My bad

[cosmic cobalt]

it doesn't last long enough to replace empyric resolve on non inferno build either

[rich spindle]

That’s true, it’s not infinite, which is unforgivable

[ripe obsidian]

This is likely the case. Backstab sounds have been super funky lately

[cosmic cobalt]

• tdr

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh I kinda like Becalmimg Eruption. It lets me spam Inferno even more without having to quell. I mean, Shriek is on such a short cooldown with all my CDR, so Becalming Eruption is usually up for half the downtime

[cosmic cobalt]

i basically just treat it as a tax node for creeping flame

[ripe obsidian]

Since my average uptime for Psykinetic's Aura in combat seems to be around 75%, my Shriek CD with 6 stacks of Warp Siphon should be ~9.6 seconds on average. This is, again, assuming 6 stacks of Siphon

But with the fix to how IFR gets stacks, that has felt significantly more consistent

[summer prairie]

12.5% peril reduction in optimal conditions. Not even as good as the 10% peril reduction small node always

[ripe obsidian]

Innit 25%?

[summer prairie]

if it's 50% uptime

[ripe obsidian]

Ah

I misunderstood

But yes, this is a fair point

[summer prairie]

definitely needs a complete rework

[ripe obsidian]

The real best use of Becalming Eruption is keeping score of how many enemies I hit through a wall.

[buoyant maple]

Isn’t it just a tax node for shriek

[summer prairie]

I think tax nodes aren't supposed to be a thing anymore

[cosmic cobalt]

shriek have basically infinite range anyway imo

[ripe obsidian]

It's not a great node, no. But I don't hate it. I wouldn't pick it if it weren’t necessary for fire

[ripe obsidian]

30m

[cosmic cobalt]

as long as there enemy you basically alway hit 50+ enemy

[buoyant maple]

Tax nodes are still very much alive

[cosmic cobalt]

30m is basically infinite in this game lo

[ripe obsidian]

Not really

30m is significant, but most rooms are bigger than that by a significant margin

I like shrieking through airlock doors and seeing how many enemies are on the other side

As well as causing chain reactions with KF and PC for enemies who can't touch me

[cosmic cobalt]

kinda hard to not get value from shriek considering you're usually close to medium range as staff psyker

[limber heath]

Can someone explain to a dumb idiot how one is supposed to use the force great sword special

[cosmic cobalt]

you're guaranteed to alway get max value from it imo

[limber heath]

From what I can tell it charges up by being in melee with the 2 bars and that empowers the projectile?

Is that scaling necessary/ worth and do you just focus on cycling max charged projectiles

[ripe obsidian]

I also use Shriek to stagger or kill ranged elites and specials at max range if no one else has killed them

Or to give me time and space to get closer

[ripe obsidian]

1 bar will usually kill chaff enemies. 2 will usually kill elites.

More bars = big damage, stagger, and range increase

I can get you the exact numbers if you want them

[limber heath]

Damn six you got this channel on your back huh

I'm not gamer enough yet to care about exacts I'm still recovering from a long ass break.

I'll care once I havoc

[ripe obsidian]

And melee kills are what charge it up afaik

[limber heath]

Just trying to get builds together rn

I'm liking voidblast/venting/GS rn though

For some reason the game retained 0 of the XP I should've earned on force swords so I can't change the mk I have off illisi

[ripe obsidian]

2 bars is usually better if you can get it, but 1 bar is still enough to kill basic enemies and keep Malefic Momentum stacked, because the special is warp damage rather than physical

[ripe obsidian]

Solid. Shriek is my favorite ability by a pretty wide margin. I like DoTs a lot in games.

[limber heath]

Yea I should really read the skill tree I copied so I know how the damage bonuses stack up, all I do rn is try to stay high peril

[ripe obsidian]

It comes with time and practice

[ripe obsidian]

I am become beep boop robot man?

[limber heath]

. Compared to when I last played psyker venting shriek cool down seems like half as long though

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker has ridiculous cooldown reduction

[pale prairie]

The way the tree has changed and the fact it’s much easier and cheaper to get 6 warp charges for the cooldown

[rich spindle]

The middle node in shriek is pretty pointless

[plucky remnant]

Is it possible to block a sniper shot with Deflector? I've seen it mitigates damage but I wonder if it's possible to just nullify entirely

[ripe obsidian]

No

[plucky remnant]

Got it, something I gotta dodge then?

[pale prairie]

Six shut up!

[pale prairie]

Go ahead and try

For science

[pale prairie]

It and crushers yes

[ripe obsidian]

"Note that Sniper shots, even when a shot is blocked and does not deplete stamina fully, deal their full spillover damage regardless." - Kuli

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/many-bothans-died-to-bring-us-this-information-mon-mothma-star-wars-return-of-the-jedi-rotj-gif-8578960889902079126

*kulis

[ripe obsidian]

Or be cool and duck under it

[rich spindle]

I’ve been doing that a lot

Recently

[thorn cedar]

being cool?

[rich spindle]

I haven’t tested if it works 100% of time

[ripe obsidian]

It usually works if you time it right

I was futzing around with timings and things, and it seems like Inferno spends maybe 1/3 of the time charging/quelling and 2/3 of the time firing RMB. Does that seem correct? Like, 5 seconds of downtime for 10 seconds of activity. Not that you really have true downtime when everything is burning

[wraith sphinx]

being cool (using mind in motion in your builds)

[pale prairie]

I mean Makes sense and probably not even a loss in damage because there is a max cap on fire

[ripe obsidian]

I'm still debating on the CDR aura vs crit aura

[wraith sphinx]

for what build

[ripe obsidian]

And trying to figure out stuff like uptime on EE, factoring in the downtime of charging RMB

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno + Shriek. Crit aura gives me a PRD breakpoint at 60% peril instead of 80%

[wraith sphinx]

well personally I prefer cdr aura for shriek builds for maximizing shriek spam

[ripe obsidian]

And going by my uptimes, I spent 35-40% at 80%+ peril, and maybe 50% at 60-79% peril

[wraith sphinx]

for everything else, crit aura

[ripe obsidian]

CDR aura has reduced benefit due to Psykinetic’s Aura

[wraith sphinx]

though I currently am using the +elite dmg aura on my wall shield build to be funny

[ripe obsidian]

Factoring in my ~75% uptime on PA, Shriek with no other sources of cooldown has a 19.6 second CD w/ crit aura and PA and 21.8 w/ just PA

So 2.2 seconds from the aura instead of 3

Going deeper

With all my CDR sources, it's 10.6 seconds without the CDR aura and 9.4 with

So 1.2 seconds of additional CDR instead of 3

While the extra 5% crit would weight my average crit from the 3rd to the 2nd, and reduce maximum attacks before a crit from 7 to 5

I think Inferno RMB ticks attacks every ~1/3 of a second, going by the burn stat

But not positive

[summer prairie]

Per target

[ripe obsidian]

But the CDR aura is also just more useful for teammates, I think

[ripe obsidian]

I am like 99% sure the crit is calculated per attack on the player side, not enemy hit. Because you can crit when hitting empty air, and the game saves that and applies the buff to the next damaging attack, which can be a soulblaze tick

Which is why EE can go off when you aren't actively hitting enemies but they are on fire

I spoke with Kuli about it somewhat extensively

[summer prairie]

Pretty sure the stat means the same target can get an additional SB stack every 0.3 or so but not sure

But not talking about crit procs not sure about those

[ripe obsidian]

Misunderstood, my bad

[summer prairie]

Maybe that's the other thing

[ripe obsidian]

You're right. But I am not sure if that's how often RMB ticks direct damage

But that is what burn means

[ashen edge]

Do you guys find that a lot of auric player are bad and salty? helping my friend do an operation mission and might as well playing solo. they don't do objective or standing there in the no man's land to get shredded by gunner and then call me out for not being with the team while me and my mate just leave them to die because we can't res them safely

[limber heath]

Breaking news: Players of videogame found to be salty

[ripe obsidian]

Significantly so, compared with high Havoc

And the Auric players who get boosted to an H40 clear by Hamdolsun and Alyssa are the worst. They have this mindset that they're H40-ready and teams are holding them back. Then they go to H40, die 5 times in 5 minutes, and rage that the team is rushing or not playing together or whatever buzzword they got from a youtuber

[pale prairie]

Auric is now the middle ground between havoc and newbie land. As such you get a wide dichotomy of players

[limber heath]

If I get salty in game I'm not wasting my time keyboardwarrioring or open mic yapping I just lock in. Everything you do can be attributed to your misplay on auric aside from like... Teammate shooting a burster you're shoving

[ripe obsidian]

Meanwhile most legit H40 people are like, "I fucked up, don't rez me, not safe. Just get me up later." Or, "nice try, close," on a failed clutch.

[ashen edge]

Huh, why do they boost people who are not ready or even enjoy that mode?

[limber heath]

Idk about h40 because didn't exist when I stopped last but auric was salty back then too

[limber heath]

Why do people cheat in videogames?

Same shit

[ripe obsidian]

They say it's to help people get penances and resources they couldn't get in quickplay.

[limber heath]

Why would people buy accounts at higher ranks in pvp comp games

[limber thistle]

Yeeheheeeesss

[limber heath]

They grt an ego boost from shiny thing attached to their account, not from actual skill

[ashen edge]

Ah, the charity

[limber thistle]

OOOO okay I’ll have to try that!

[verbal thistle]

whats the difference between a wolfgirl and a puppygirl?

[limber thistle]

What’s uncanny

[ashen edge]

The wolf are more stinky? maybe

[pale prairie]

Nothing they both have furry art

[crisp ether]

One of the strongest blessings in the entire game

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[crisp ether]

You know how carapace soaks up a lot of your damage normally?

[limber thistle]

Puppygirl SMALLER! SMALLER TEEFS! NOT HOWL AT MOON!

[verbal thistle]

I see....

[ripe obsidian]

It's a weapon blessing that gives 100% rending (it reads 125% or something, but the game hardcaps rending at 100%)

[limber thistle]

Whassit do?

[limber thistle]

Okay

[crisp ether]

Hit heads, get a bonus called "rending"

Now armor suddenly won't resist as much damage

[limber thistle]

I hit heads a lot with my sword

Is fuuunnn

Just back and forth

Back and forth

Swing swing swing swing

and everybody’s dead!

[ripe obsidian]

I have Werewolves of London stuck in my head now

[limber thistle]

Nyehehehe

[limber thistle]

I AM NOT A WEREWOLF

i am a NORMAL wolfgirl thank you

[verbal thistle]

Understandable

have a great day

[limber thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/21-yatta-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-12502567287501134160

https://tenor.com/view/feral-scent-no21-pgr-punishing-gray-gif-15335764450924388627

[ripe obsidian]

Don't worry, I'm the last person in the world who should be kinkshaming. Or whatever the proper term is. Not intending to be rude, just dunno a better word in this case.

[ashen edge]

Do they wield a knife instead of teef

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-dancing-husky-funny-gif-14085100

[limber thistle]

HAHAHA

yessss

I don’t wield a knife or a teefs

I got CLAWS

Imagine if there was a class that got claws in darktide

Slashslash

Slashslash STAB

Would be verr kewl

[verbal thistle]

like knuckles for ogryn

maybe]

[limber thistle]

Then I could be a psychotic wolfgirl in TWO games, BWAHAHAHAAAA

https://tenor.com/view/21-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-feral-scent-smile-gif-11995308485891769125

[kind jay]

bruh we were getting on the valk and i got got while everyone watched

nurgle wins i quit

[ripe obsidian]

10/10.

[spice aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/dodgeball-dodgeball-movie-hit-in-face-ben-stiller-movie-gif-576805322432611399

[ripe obsidian]

Better than getting kicked by a flamer

[kind jay]

ive never been downed by a flamer kick. at least, thats something i'd like you to believe. please believe.

[pale prairie]

Damn out here throwing True Survivor achievements like Six

[pale prairie]

Wait they can kick?????

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[verbal thistle]

They kick now?

[kind jay]

they aim for the nuts, specifically.

roshambo

[pale prairie]

Oof I knew playing male characters would come back to bite me

[spice aurora]

flamers punch, dont lie

[pale prairie]

I thought they just die…..

https://tenor.com/view/getitaga-video-gif-25762728

[crisp ether]

Now hold on

[radiant frigate]

in the dongliz? a low blow

[crisp ether]

That kick is unironically

[verbal thistle]

Thank you bardin

[crisp ether]

One of the most dangerous moves in this game

[pale prairie]

Now where are the stairs?

[spice aurora]

one of the only stuns in game xD

[crisp ether]

It comes out so fast and staggers you so far 😭

[radiant frigate]

these stairs go up

[spice aurora]

these stairs go down

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/bless-you-robin-hood-rabbit-bunny-thankful-gif-9795910796828200344

[limber heath]

They should just make it an insta kill

[ripe obsidian]

I have absolutely gotten kicked by flamers before

[limber heath]

They spend all day running they should have powerful legs

[radiant frigate]

you ever gotten kicked by a sniper though

[limber thistle]

What mod tells u the death feed?

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe?

[pale prairie]

No make it a COD style execution animation

[limber heath]

THEY HAVE MELEE??

[pale prairie]

Pffffffffffff never

[radiant frigate]

yeah but they usually flee when you close in on them

[kind jay]

Player Deathfeed on nexus

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-scary-water-water-shaking-shaking-gif-17829914067447638174

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/581

Should be this

[limber heath]

Yea they always scream and scoot away from me I've never bullied one enough to get melee I guess

[limber thistle]

Got it

[crisp ether]

I have lost a havoc before in archivum because everyone went down at the last point where we were getting the scribe before going except me

[limber thistle]

Neat!

[limber heath]

Oh fuck that's what Im missing when in uninstalled darktidyI lost my scoreboard

[crisp ether]

I dropped down to that box on the left and there just happened to be a sniper there

As soon as I dropped, sniper kicked me and I got ledged.

[limber thistle]

Scoreboard is mean

It crashes my game when I get out of a match

[crisp ether]

My jaw dropped

[ripe obsidian]

@crisp ether did I tell you I found a group of randoms with whom I did 21, 24, and 27 minute H40s? It was goofy.

[crisp ether]

You did!

[limber heath]

Nvm I will not be installing scoreboard again

[limber thistle]

TO BE FAIR

i am also running another kill tracker

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/thelionking-lionking-mufasa-longlivetheking-scar-gif-20263689

[limber thistle]

That tracks my kills live in match

[crisp ether]

I actually do have some time today cuz I called out

[limber thistle]

And maybe that’s causing issues? I donno

[pale prairie]

Wait you did pubs and enjoyed it?

[limber heath]

I know it technically doesn't do anything I just like to be able to tell if my build works or if I'm fucking useless

[crisp ether]

Burnout from 6 day work week kicked in

[limber heath]

At least 1 yellow stat

[limber thistle]

Byeah it is bugged a bit with the new update i think

[pale prairie]

There’s a community patch

Also animation events is playing donkey with scoreboard and new patch

[pale prairie]

its Damage Taken

[crisp ether]

Yeah Backup uploaded a new version in modders Discord that's supposed to fix the jank

[pale prairie]

[ripe obsidian]

H40 pubs are usually okay

[crisp ether]

I had to install because it completely broke stimm crate lol

[pale prairie]

Alright so I only hear about the loss spirals

[spice aurora]

i almost always pub h40

[crisp ether]

Thats in anything but 40 honestly

[pale prairie]

Not according to story time with Six

[crisp ether]

I mean don't get me wrong

You do get some goobers in 40

[ripe obsidian]

27 deaths

[crisp ether]

But its not as bad as the ranks before it usually

[pale prairie]

But yeah it’s usually chill

USUALLY

[ripe obsidian]

Can't rant about wins.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/value-select-hey-king-fellow-kings-king-put-your-crown-on-gif-26384721

[ripe obsidian]

Tho I did have a great solo psyker clutch yesterday

[pale prairie]

But don’t you want your ego stroked?

[pale prairie]

Fake news

[ripe obsidian]

No, I hate myself. I need reinforcement of my awfulness

[pale prairie]

That’s ummmmm healthy adjacent

[ripe obsidian]

It's not healthy

[buoyant maple]

U might as well start playing solo/duo with people tbh

[pale prairie]

Yeah I was trying not to be rude

[buoyant maple]

I’m sure ur good enough for that

[ripe obsidian]

I've done H40 trios without issue. Some pseudo duos

Solo doesn't appeal to me

[pale prairie]

Playing with friends is fun

[ripe obsidian]

Team went down in the open walkway area after the Magistrati mid event. Killed a boss then kited a bunch of ragers, crushers, and specials around for like 3 minutes before finding space to get revives.

[pale prairie]

Alright might be real news

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno stick + shriek is pretty strong

[limber heath]

Doesn't that go yellow if lowest?

[pale prairie]

he’s on to me

[pale prairie]

Why haven’t you told me? All this time I thought you didn’t use any soulblaze

[obtuse swan]

play and feel the difference, i dont look at a spreadsheet i playe the game

[obtuse swan]

yeahhhhh

i know it is

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[crisp ether]

No I mean

There literally is no difference

[ripe obsidian]

I have the code.

[obtuse swan]

https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-gif-sobbing-uoooh-gif-24612778

[crisp ether]

120% rending is functionally no different from 100%

[ripe obsidian]

Rending caps at 100%

[obtuse swan]

wdym

[crisp ether]

It's been like this for a long time now.

[obtuse swan]

ur not always gonna be maxing out ur stacks of uncanny or pots

ur not always gonna be at 100% rending

[crisp ether]

If you're playing uncanny right. It is very easy to stay at 100%

Because switching your weapon doesn't cancel your stacks

[obtuse swan]

u cant always get uncanny

yeah i know

wtf

[ripe obsidian]

It's something like min(rending_percent, 1). It picks what is lower, 100% or rending+brittleness, and takes that. So if rending+brittleness bonuses are over 100%, it caps at 100%

[obtuse swan]

i literally said that in an argument as to why i have infested/flak/carapac/eunyileding on the sword

[ripe obsidian]

Bonus damage perks != rending

[crisp ether]

Dueling sword is straight up one of the easiest weapons to keep uncanny at 100% with

[pale prairie]

You had infested and weakspot

[obtuse swan]

idk i believe the other group more than u guys bc u said it ws a bad build

u can swap infested for antyhing

and i often do

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-loop-around-and-around-gif-11955722

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not engaging in the trolling again, I am just explaining the code.

[obtuse swan]

im just telling you

you can swap tthe fucking 25% buff to whatever

it doesnt matter

okay dude

[pale prairie]

You are so right 25% infested damage doesn’t matter

[obtuse swan]

if my build is so bad, then why is it so good

why does it work so good

[fluid knot]

Impending crashout? 🍿

[crisp ether]

I mean. I can tell you why

[obtuse swan]

no im jw

[crisp ether]

It's psyker

[pale prairie]

Any score board or powerdi to throw out?

[obtuse swan]

yeah psyker is the build yes

[crisp ether]

Technically, the build isn't the most optimal. But psyker

Is so ridiculously strong

[obtuse swan]

im tired of people saying that it isnt optimal

they are just wrong

[crisp ether]

That even a kinda gimped build with a dueling sword and inferno

[obtuse swan]

its like people getting the wrong answer in math class

[obtuse swan]

i promise u its the opposite of gimped

u guys are smoking some potent fucking chemicals

DT official discord build advice is like bizzaro advice

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/papaya-play-warrock-papaya-war-rock-gif-3094827274269971901

[obtuse swan]

where the meta is dominated by women who "feel" a certain way about a node

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[obtuse swan]

XD

[pale prairie]

Dude shut the fuck up

[crisp ether]

Alright.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

[zealous mango]

Smol one

[ripe obsidian]

It means trolling about builds wasn't getting the reaction he wanted so he's gonna toss sexism into the mix

[pale prairie]

Anybody who goes minimal slider is a chad in my book. I want to see over poxwalkers

[crisp ether]

That is so cringe bro

Why the sexism???

[pale prairie]

Because being stupid is funny

[crisp ether]

Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense.

[pale prairie]

“Hahaha they think I am so out of touch and dumb….. but I am not! GOTTEM!”

[obtuse swan]

It means ur literally just making shit up

[pale prairie]

Nah you are

[obtuse swan]

Okay dude then why doesnt anybody else agree w u that i encounter

randos run pots

[ripe obsidian]

It's just ragebait

[obtuse swan]

bc it works

[pale prairie]

Randos also inspect dirt

[obtuse swan]

i play w 40 ts guys who actually run

and they pick it

[crisp ether]

They posted a screenshot of people telling them this

Like this is legit getting gaslit

And just to say

[pale prairie]

???having havoc forged means less now that players are speedrunning dead people

[obtuse swan]

yall dumb asf brah

i aint even wasting time no more

[spice aurora]

wat i miss

[crisp ether]

If you can't always be at 100% uncanny at the moments you need to be

That's a skill issue and a half right there

[pale prairie]

Good go away and keep eating sand in the sandbox

[ripe obsidian]

PotS is not a good node on most weapons. But it's not gonna make your build worse. It just does almost nothing. If someone can do H40, they're not gonna lose because they picked PotS.

[obtuse swan]

im not sure it works like that

[rich spindle]

You can only play with 3 people at a time, you are cheating by playing with 40 at once. I’ve reported you to the moderators

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/easter-doe-eating-deer-eating-popcorn-funny-gif-4621167703268332056

[obtuse swan]

its for soulbalze not the sword

[crisp ether]

It does. Because uncanny is extremely easy to upkeep.

[verbal thistle]

am back for this

[pale prairie]

It’s about limited talent points and why would you spend it on a slight slight benefit

[crisp ether]

Even through weapon switching

[obtuse swan]

ur wrong dude

im not gonna tell u otherwise

ur just wrong dude

[spice aurora]

im too dum to know what POTS is

[obtuse swan]

unless they radically changed

penetration of the soul

[spice aurora]

sounds gay

[obtuse swan]

the good node that helps ur soulblaze kill armour

[ripe obsidian]

Soulblaze has 100% or higher ADMs on every single enemy that isn't a crusher. And using Soulblaze to kill crushers is a goofy-ass idea.

[obtuse swan]

stfu

soulblaze wrecks crushers

[verbal thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1486780176510615622/2DDC191.MP4?ex=69c6bf71&is=69c56df1&hm=4d8fbfccf34d07e884c62094cee75615e2bc30937244299e3b89570b408a6037&

[obtuse swan]

ur just terrible at psyker

[verbal thistle]

bruh look

[crisp ether]

What does PotS have to do with Uncanny being easy to upkeep 😭

[ripe obsidian]

Penetration of the Soul. Up to 20% rending on warp attacks based on peril.

[obtuse swan]

im sorry ur actually fucking awful at psyker if u arent killing crushers wu r sword and staff

[crisp ether]

Can you just like

[spice aurora]

pub h40 veterans when a poxwalker sneaks up on them

[crisp ether]

Go

[verbal thistle]

lol

[obtuse swan]

lol

[ripe obsidian]

I am. I told you, I can't get past Havoc 6. Hence my name.

[crisp ether]

You've already shown your face with the unnecessary sexism at this point

[spice aurora]

i use my sward to kill crushers i dont have soulblaze

[crisp ether]

It's cringe. You're not really here to listen to anyone so why are you still here?

[pale prairie]

His argument of “ur wrong and i am right based off of no numbers” is too strong we must capitulate

[obtuse swan]

it wasnt sexism though, it was allegorical. it was a metaphor, the sexism wasnt the point, the sexist allegory was the method my argument reached you, you are acting on feeling instead of what plainly and openly happens in the game. it doesnt work in the meat grinder btw

[spice aurora]

idk wat allegorical means

[pale prairie]

It died didn’t it?!? Mission accomplished lets go home boys

[spice aurora]

i have allergies

[ripe obsidian]

PotS does work in the meat grinder. Ya goof.

[obtuse swan]

im going to bed. my build mogs all of your memebulds gang ngl. empyric shock is worth taking if ur using ur staff all the time

[rich spindle]

Nah mines better

[obtuse swan]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a13cceff-5148-4ab1-bb92-1b2f245eda95/best-havoc-psyker-build-for-noobs

my build is cool

[ripe obsidian]

Wtf does "mogs" mean