psyker-class

[rich spindle]

Oh yeah that happened to me too

We killed like 50 maulers before the first drop down lmao

Ridiculous

[ripe obsidian]

It's on a couple maps

[summer prairie]

#psyker-class message two bosses too

the change also made some event areas to (sometimes?) be full of elites initially

[ripe obsidian]

I can't recall what other map had enemies in the opening area. It wasn't just Gloriana

[rich spindle]

It’s really highlighting how silly the powercreep has gotten

[ripe obsidian]

We also had elites spawn in the train in Gloriana right as we hit the far side

[rich spindle]

Eyes glazed over evaporating 50 maulers in a hallway

[summer prairie]

in the train and in the gloriana end event

[ripe obsidian]

The power creep has gotten pretty goofy. But still a lot of people struggle at Heresy difficulty. The power creep is evident in good players, but it's necessary for new/less skilled players to even play the game

Like, I have a friend who dies 4+ times in a Heresy game because he refuses to block or swap off ranged weapons.

And has zero positional awareness

[rich spindle]

They had sedition for those guys

[ripe obsidian]

This is also why Scum has a 48% score on Steam

Because a majority of players just don't know how to dodge

So they bought scum and died repeatedly because the class isn't immortal like Arby

[rich spindle]

It’s Joever….

We need custom modded difficulty at this point

[ripe obsidian]

Sorry, 45% now

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[pale prairie]

What’s arbies rating

[rich spindle]

1000000%

[summer prairie]

I think there's just a lot of selection going on there. Based on nothing at all, users don't feel strongly enough about minor dlc to review them unless they dislike it

[buoyant maple]

Oh I don’t have the get back stolen scrap one yet

[ripe obsidian]

"worst class in all the game, they shuldnt have bothered, a glass cannon that is more glass than anything else, not fun at all, dual guns that make no damage and it gets floored by a single hit... is more fun sitting and look at the wall than trying playing with this uselss thing...."

[pale prairie]

Arbites is low ish too but it might be people who did it cause it’s “too strong” lol

[ripe obsidian]

63%

[summer prairie]

I think it's what I said, the review counts are also very low

even though arbites in particular sold very well

[pale prairie]

I like scum it’s fun. In some ways more challenging to me than psyker. I’ve never been able to kill bosses so fast as with rampage, stim, and tox stacks

[ripe obsidian]

Scum is more fun than I expected

What build are you using? I have been playing around with this

[wraith sphinx]

Scum is great tho I still main psyker

[ripe obsidian]

Or, sorry, I think I have the 5s longer stimm time, not 1% corruption cleared on kill

[dusk timber]

Shivs?

[ripe obsidian]

So this

Yeah, Shivs and needler for pewpewing specials

[summer prairie]

No street tough

[dusk timber]

I'd recommend the bottom subnode on adrenaline

Passive +5% toughness regen is pretty good

[ripe obsidian]

I had it, but I ran out of points and wanted perilous toxbustion more

[dusk timber]

Fair

[frail oar]

What do you guys usually take for adrenaline subnodes

[ripe obsidian]

Is street tough that good? I haven't tried it yet.

[summer prairie]

I think so

[dusk timber]

I like running this for shiv rampage

[dusk timber]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

20s duration, bonus stacks on kill, and sometimes toughness regen if I have the points

[dusk timber]

Stagger everything that isnt an ogryn or a boss

On a ridiculously short cooldown

Also its dog immunity

And it gives a speed buff

Because why not

[frail oar]

Street tough is a run saver

And helps with maniac chip damage a lot

[dusk timber]

Who the fuck decided to give this to scum

[dusk timber]

Im going to be honest i dont run it purely out of spite

[frail oar]

Its like baby zealot mulligan

[ripe obsidian]

But I would have to give up some damage nodes to get street tough ahhhhhhh

How will I survive

[frail oar]

Ill try this is never do the on elite kill

[ripe obsidian]

Oh wait, street tough is how I would survive

[wraith sphinx]

0 points in stimm lab

[summer prairie]

drop rampage shout for street tough

[frail oar]

I said it before but 8 second cd with 4-5 dodges with hscum stamina is too short prolly

[ripe obsidian]

+15 stacks on a single elite kill is stupid. It's not necessary, but it's really nice

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

[dusk timber]

8 seconds on any class would be too short imo

[dusk timber]

Really helps with uptime on slower weapons

But shivs probably dont need it?

I havent really done shiv with adrenaline tho

[wraith sphinx]

I run it all the time

is nice

damage is damage anyhow, simple as

[dusk timber]

I like chem dep better for shivs for the extra crit chance

[wraith sphinx]

I guess

I play my scum stimmless tho

[pale prairie]

That’s the plan still haven’t hit 30 yet

I miss having actual weapons and curios

[ripe obsidian]

Not terribly dissimilar

[ripe obsidian]

Probably don't, yeah. I have it mostly because it allows me to immediately get Adrenaline up if it has dropped between hordes or something. It's particularly nice if you're in a spot where your stimm is down, Rampage is down, and Adrenaline is down. But I could probably drop it and get something like Jittery or Pickpocket

Probably Pickpocket. Maybe Adrenaline Unbound

[frail oar]

But generally you guys are taking 2 sub nodes to maintain uptime

[pale prairie]

Yeah again I have to even try this out first. Might tailor after. I am curious about adrenaline but I am wanting to see how well the flow of chem dependency is with 40% cooldown and 12% from curios. Does “ability cooldown” affect cartel special cooldown?

[ripe obsidian]

I think the 10s to 20s one is pretty important. Toughness regen is also quite good. Any of the others are preference.
I'd say the 2s to 4s one is iffy, but otherwise they're all solid

[ripe obsidian]

I do not believe so

[frail oar]

I haven't tried all the permutations but I think youre right 20s with the elite kne probably keeps you topped off for higher difficulties.

[maiden notch]

should i focus on building smite?

[ripe obsidian]

How detailed of an answer do you want?

[maiden notch]

out of 10 there are only 3 users of smite, is it bad or is it not handy as others

[frail oar]

No

[pale prairie]

Eh no matter sample collector exists. The real question is do I go for two branches or just 1…..

[ripe obsidian]

Smite is very strong. Smite is arguably too strong. Smite does pretty low damage but turns off the game (outside of Havoc modifiers that make enemies immune to stuns).

Smite makes the game boring for other players. Smite teaches bad habits. Smite is used as a primary tool for every situation, when it really should not be.

If you enjoy Smite, use it. But I don't particularly like it, and many players dislike having a Smite-focused Psyker on their team. Though this is a mindset that is different depending on the difficulty

[pale prairie]

It is a good ability that unfortunately makes the game too easy/boring for many a squad while at the same time teaching bad habits to the user if they ever want to play modes that have stagger immune enemies.

Also can cause classes with talents related to dodging enemy attacks kind of mad cause they can’t get those procs.

In moderation it’s great for fixing a bad situation like getting a rescue or revive off or distracting a horde while Allie’s kill a boss

[ripe obsidian]

High Havoc players dislike Smite Psykers a lot. People who watch Havoc youtubers/streamers parrot this opinion without understanding it fully. Lower difficulty players tend to be more positive toward Smite Psykers.

There is a reason I have this gif saved

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[dusk timber]

Pickpocket genuinely not needed

[buoyant maple]

After u get good enough at the game you will just stop caring about smite because u know you won’t be using it anyway

[ripe obsidian]

@verbal thistle if you have a chance, can you make the guy smiting a Pogryn into a gif, please? Or share it with me if you already have?

[maiden notch]

i thought of a smite user as i am, i was supporting my team by stunning enemies so others could kill enemies more easily, am i wrong

[dusk timber]

4th stack for chem dep isnt really worth it

[pale prairie]

You are not wrong but again the game then becomes smack the stationary enemy. Which can be boring. It’s up to you and the team you play with

[maiden notch]

holy that could have been me 😭

[ripe obsidian]

This is a tricky question. Because yes, you are supporting the team by stunning enemies. This does make them easier to kill. But it also does some negative things. It makes the game less fun, because enemies aren't reacting. It also makes enemies not bunch up, so killing them tends to be slower as they're all spread out and stunned. And it makes classes that rely on dodging to get damage boosts unable to use those talents.

[pale prairie]

I go back and forth on this. Isn’t it like 3 seconds off of rampage cooldown?

[dusk timber]

Something like that probably

[pale prairie]

And the crit chance

[ripe obsidian]

And more importantly, players who rely on Smite tend to struggle at adapting to situations. They will end up using Smite on a boss (can't be stunned, and Smite does little damage) or stand still and ignore the enemies behind them, then die.

[dusk timber]

But theres much better options to spend that point on plus the reduced duration makes it unreliable with maxed out stimms

[buoyant maple]

No it’s just 1.6s difference for rampage lmfao

[pale prairie]

Oooooooof

[pale prairie]

Goddamn

[dusk timber]

Btw path speaking of cooldown on scum stimms

How much cooldown reduction do you get from a kalma 5 stimm compared to one of the +75% cdr on melee/ranged kill

[maiden notch]

so use smite just for funs and regular runs and use idk smt else for dmg dealer

[ripe obsidian]

Is +10% cooldown rate, not -10% base cooldown

[pale prairie]

Yeah I forget that part

[pale prairie]

It’s definitely not dealing damage so yeah

[buoyant maple]

If u don’t have full melee kill uptime then it’s far less than 5s difference

[ripe obsidian]

Use Smite if you enjoy it. I don't want to gatekeep. But I want to make you aware of the general opinion of the talent. If you want a damaging Blitz, Assail is a better choice.

[maiden notch]

got it, now ill look less smoothbrain while thinking i was doing ship for my team 😅

[ripe obsidian]

Again, I want to say that using Smite is helpful, depending on the situation. But it also has a higher potential to be harmful or frustrating than almost anything else in the game

[pale prairie]

It’s one of those blitzes that are good for low difficulties as everybody learns the game and then as you get higher just reserve it for “oh shit everything is bad”

Also it’s wonderful into burster trains

[ripe obsidian]

If you still want an option with strong CC potential but better damage, I recommend the Voidblast staff. To a lesser extent LMB on the Inferno staff, but if I catch you spamming LMB on Inferno I will haunt you.

[maiden notch]

got it, thanks krieger and six, imma focus on smt else than spitting electricity

[pale prairie]

Like I won’t get mad if a psyker smites so I can get off a revive or if I am trying to do an objective puzzle

[ripe obsidian]

LMB spam Inferno users are my current bane.

[dusk timber]

I wish smite was reworked to not be anywhere near as spammable

[pale prairie]

Time to make a video for six

[fresh panther]

LMB inferno is kinda the same issue as smite, where it ends up being the only / primary tool and turns the game off for the rest of the team

[ripe obsidian]

I'll haunt you, too

[thorn cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1xC1bzDJs
only slightly outdated

[maiden notch]

so i shout stick with brain buster or whatever its called right?

and that lightning staff

[pale prairie]

I love CC but it needs to be reworked to be more fun and less what it is

[dusk timber]

Arb shock mines is smite but way more fun for me

[pale prairie]

Oh yeah kinetic flayer on Brain burst with perilous combustion is awesome

[ripe obsidian]

Brain Burst + Kinetic Flayer is a perennial good choice. Especially with the semi-recent KF buffs. It used to not work if you were at 97% or higher peril (but still went on cooldown) and was random when it activated

[pale prairie]

Cause it’s a small area

[dusk timber]

Specially because you arent CCing yourself while using it

[pale prairie]

And time limited

And usage limited

[ripe obsidian]

Kinetic Flayer is often like 10% or more of my total damage in H40 runs

[pale prairie]

It’s just so fun

[ripe obsidian]

If Smite LMB stayed the same and the RMB was, like, a slightly more powerful Arby shield flashbang with a 360° area of effect

And on a cooldown

That would be amazing

Like, throw lightning at the floor and stun everything in ~10m for a couple seconds, but have a 15+ second cooldown

[verbal thistle]

I can try

[ripe obsidian]

I wish Fatshark would let me be a playtester so I could throw all of my bad ideas at them to be shot down

[maiden notch]

got it thanks bud, see u in hive, uuuh as a psyker black templar(ik ik..)

[pale prairie]

I like the idea of a cone stun. Like you have to charge it up and launch it and it makes a loud thunderclap and staggers everything in a cone while knocking chaff to the ground

[pale prairie]

No we will not allow more “burninate”

No we will not revert the bleeding dog nuke

[ripe obsidian]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD DOG

SKULLS FOR THE GOODEST BOY

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmmmm man this cooldown thing does make me question going chem dependency over say adrenaline

I guess the crit chance and TDR are nice

[ripe obsidian]

Chem dependency is not a bad choice.

I think it's preference. Chem dep for utility, adrenaline for damage

[ripe obsidian]

Happy to help. I have more information in the pinned Build Bonanza. It should be largely updated for the current patch. I want to do a refresh of some builds, but otherwise it should be solid.

[pale prairie]

Damage is very nice

[ripe obsidian]

I don't think the bubble change has actually changed the meta.

I have seen more wall Psykers this week, but they are... disappointing, on the whole.

[pale prairie]

Agreed other than removing the possibility of having two shields at once sometimes

[pale prairie]

The Psykers or the wall change?

[deft stump]

@wraith sphinx Also, just confirmed you need 50 inserted data relics for cosmetics.

[ripe obsidian]

I got really tilted last night. Was H39 with 2 tries left to get 40, and I had two psykers who refused to swap off of inferno. They halved each other's damage, and I still did more damage than both combined.

[ripe obsidian]

Psykers. A good wall Psyker is great

[maiden notch]

imma grind some points to build solid build before i reach 30, till that imma have fun with smite

[ripe obsidian]

Look at bruh moment. Guy is a maniac with meleeker + walls

[pale prairie]

Agreed especially when mutie train arrives

[ripe obsidian]

Wall is behaving worse since the patch tho. It's blocking specials even less consistently.

[thorn cedar]

its too big for the code to handle

[ripe obsidian]

I've been playing around with wall a little bit. Mostly in Auric while Havoc was down. It's pretty nice if used well (he said, not having used it very well).

[pale prairie]

Assail also Is good for leveling and fun

[ripe obsidian]

I think wall is also a knowledge check. Like, you have to know enemy spawn points so you know where to place it. Otherwise you just get bullied

[pale prairie]

I heard he only does that with coaching

[buoyant maple]

Chem dependency is very overrated yea

[ripe obsidian]

Enjoy. I also have a number of build templates in the guide to help with point distribution

[ripe obsidian]

Oh my fucking lord, I ended up in a Havoc group with the same guy last night, the one who was coaching him. He did 50k damage on Blazing Trauma, complained in voice chat that we were rushing (???) then blew himself up.

[maiden notch]

Weekends are free from slavery, so maybe I'll hit max level soon, imma ask you out for a specific build 🤝🏻

[ripe obsidian]

I've heard several people use the phrase "rushing" in regards to H40 pacing lately, which makes me think some youtuber was saying it.

[pale prairie]

My favorite is when they insist the know the meta and you need to watch some fucking YouTube videos to educate yourself

[ripe obsidian]

Something like, "in havoc you can't rush, rushing is death, you have to pace carefully." Like, sure, speedrunning will trigger special waves and stuff, or you can accidentally cross multiple boss thresholds

But there's a difference between moving at a healthy pace and speedrunning

[buoyant maple]

Sometimes u have to rush

Because some positions are just death chokes

[zealous wing]

silo cluster

[verbal thistle]

Rush prevention is a nothing burger

The only thing you need to know is boss triggers

[pale prairie]

I remember a really big argument in here between Dom and Vect over pacing and sticking together lol

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds good. I'll help however I can. I'm gonna try to do a build refresh for the Bonanza this weekend. Maybe even try to port it to Steam.

[zealous wing]

vex?

[pale prairie]

Edited

[zealous wing]

oh vect

[pale prairie]

Damn

I couldn’t remember

[ripe obsidian]

This is true. In this case he was complaining about us rushing to the bomb site in Mercantile, right before the mid event.

Oh! It was Mercantile that had elites in the opening section, like Gloriana

[buoyant maple]

Uh

Mercantile’s “mid event” is at the start yea

[ripe obsidian]

I know

Mid event is a loose term there

But either way, this guy complained about us "rushing" to the bomb site

For some reason that phrase really bothers me.

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[zealous wing]

how dare you rush at a normal mission pace to a good holding point

how dare you

[rich spindle]

That irks me too

If you’re alive you aren’t rushing

It’s only rushing if you die

[ripe obsidian]

Sticking together is important. Less for loner prevention, more so you can work as a team to overcome issues. Like, running off alone is a higher potential for death, and a lower chance your team can help if you go down. In my game last night, I was a prime example of that. At the Gloriana mid event, I panicked because of gunner spam and ended up getting separated and going down. If I had stuck closer to my team, I would probably have been okay.

[pale prairie]

Yeah like I saw a clip of an Ogryn BULLRUSHING down an enemy filled hallway!!! Where is he going!!! I think it was Six that speed demon….

/s

[ripe obsidian]

I was the only non-bullrush ogryn on that team

[zealous wing]

gotta love that people think a mission taking less than an hour is rushing

[pale prairie]

You are forgiven then

[verbal thistle]

Sal rushed my drg mission.......

https://tenor.com/view/driller-scout-deep-rock-drg-deep-rock-galactic-gif-6432906521412216961

[pale prairie]

Yeah I am Tauntgryn

[rich spindle]

My other peeve is “we need frontliner” or “we need tank”

[pale prairie]

What about healer? We need supply stims

[polar flower]

Tauntgryn Tauntgryn Tauntgryn Sahaur

[zealous wing]

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/bebe-gif-5526812072482676565

[ripe obsidian]

Agreed. If everyone can move at a consistent pace and clear enemies, it is good. But it’s something I noticed a lot more when I first started playing with people like AgentChaos. I was moving waaaay slower and struggling to keep up with him. As I have played with better people more often, my default pace has gone up a lot.

[rich spindle]

How the boss had me

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-meme-wait-a-minute-gif-14484132

[verbal thistle]

Hate the lithophage corrupter

The bulk moment was funny

[buoyant maple]

Just save edit and unlock that season

[verbal thistle]

Nah

I'm 100% unedited

And almost already done with all seasons

4/6 done and the other 2 are at 70/100

[ripe obsidian]

I like being the frontliner/tank Arby if the team doesn't have one. Or if there's a Bullrush oggy so we can charge in together. It gives me a sense of Pride and Accomplishment to stunlock 30 elites in a chokepoint so my team can burn them down.

[pale prairie]

Before hive scum ever flew, agent chaos psyker slid into chasms

[ripe obsidian]

I need the video from @strong gulch of my plan

[ripe obsidian]

If you ever need another body for DRG, I am kinda not terrible at it. Or I used to be. I did a lot of Haz5 stuff, but it was before the higher difficulties came out

[rich spindle]

I carried Ainz

Had to res them 3x

[ripe obsidian]

Heroic

[deft stump]

So zealot stealth to carry shit is fine, vet drops on stealth. Thanks FatShark.

[ripe obsidian]

What do you mean?

[pale prairie]

Nanithefuck?

[deft stump]

Press ult with data.

Zealot doesn't drop it.

[pale prairie]

Bahahahahahha

[deft stump]

Vet drops the battery/data.

[pale prairie]

Vet army crawls while stealthing

[deft stump]

Also, Fatshark increased the salvage price of 'nade refills.

Great.

[pale prairie]

Krak grenade too op

[deft stump]

Also, field improv works on the refill ammo.

[verbal thistle]

Join us whenever, I got 3 new players to get the game. So I've just been teaching. We reached haz 4 last night with 1 person (missus)

[deft stump]

10 salvage for 'nades.

[verbal thistle]

These stupid supply pods always seem to land on me....

[pale prairie]

How the hell

[ashen edge]

wtf is the new gloriana start. feels very brutal more than other map so far

[deft stump]

There's a warning.

[pale prairie]

There’s like an indicator and everything

And a progressively louder DRILL SOUND

[pale prairie]

AH YES THE PRE-EVENT EVENT

[ashen edge]

The tunnel filled with elite and the drop down that won't abllowed us to dodge

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-great-outdoors-comedy-dan-aykroyd-perfect-yes-gif-3904044

[ripe obsidian]

Gloriana and Mercantile, and any other map that is coded as an Event at the start, now has elite spawns due to the change in how terror events work. They were supposed to unlock all enemy types/increase spawns during mid and end events, and any other terror event, but some starting zones got caught in the blast.

[pale prairie]

Six called the devs sissies and so they are punishing all of us

[limpid lily]

I played witha buddy who played double flat shields in H40 so far, it is PRETTY GOATED ngl. Tho the biggest issue mostly stems from teammates, I dont think ppl know how to play around it yet xD

[ripe obsidian]

Okeydokey. I play mostly Driller because DoTs make me happy. And melting the armor on glyphids with the goop cannon and watching them run around naked is very funny

[ashen edge]

flat shield is good. but my problems is Hongkong players tend to stuck with old meta so far

[ripe obsidian]

Double shields are very good if used well. I think you are correct that people don't understand them yet. Particularly Psykers trying them out after using only bubble for over a year.

[thorn cedar]

placement with wall actually matters

[limpid lily]

yep, it can cover the whole team now, and can more or less decimate a horde wth the electricity

and PRETTY DECENT boss dmg addup

[pale prairie]

Wait

It does damage now

[limpid lily]

yeah

[pale prairie]

Daaaaaaaaamn

[ripe obsidian]

It always did

[limpid lily]

it alwayus did

it was just too small be4 lol

[pale prairie]

I knew it stunned but uh

[limpid lily]

and the electricity DoT is INSANE

[pale prairie]

Didn’t know there was actual hurting

[ripe obsidian]

Has a 20% chance to stagger enemies (including Captains/Twins) when they get in contact with the shield and to apply Electrocution to them; always applies Electrocution to specials and monstrosities when they get in contact with the shield. This Electrocution effect lasts for 3s, deals 250 base damage (very low armor damage modifiers across the board) in a tick interval between 0.3s and 0.8s (randomly chosen), and can stagger all enemies except monstrosities and Captains/Twins.

The shield takes 8 damage per direct body hit from specials and monstrosities, disappearing after 3 'blocked' body hits. Respects the 0.33s damage cooldown window which means that any amount of direct body hits from specials that happen within 0.33s of each other count as just 1 direct body hit taken.

There is currently a bug: Specials and monstrosities that touch the shield only deal 1 damage to it instead of 8.

[pale prairie]

I am your twin

[ripe obsidian]

In the solo play mod, the shield shock damages you as well. :D

[ripe obsidian]

Only difference is Jittery vs Street Tough.

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmm do the smite sub nodes affect this electricity

[limpid lily]

wait soloplay works now? I tried to spawn H40 Psykanium it crashed my game

[pale prairie]

I ain’t street tough

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

I think EP also affects it

[pale prairie]

Interesting interesting interesting cool cool cool

[ripe obsidian]

B/c the code is like a blanket damage boost to that damage profile

Which is used in like 5 places

[limpid lily]

what exactly does it affect, i'm not aware of whatever this is

[pale prairie]

Gotta leave room for the increasingly heavy spawns

[ripe obsidian]

Enervating Threshold uses the chain_lightning damage profile, which I know EP boosts. I would honestly have to double-check the Smite nodes to see which apply

I haven't tested it in a while

[ripe obsidian]

I think there's a patch. Not sure. Ainz showed me a solo play clip

[ripe obsidian]

Street weak?

[pale prairie]

High rise soft

[limpid lily]

hmmm no update yet, might be pre-patch

[ripe obsidian]

I cannot say for certain

[limpid lily]

tbh, i'm not entirely sure if there's any difference with the psykinetic aura 10%- nerf haha

i mean it's only 10%, but curious if it noticeably affects anything

[frail oar]

Over lots of games you would notice a decrease in win% but in the moment not noticeable

[verbal thistle]

Love the prets. And gly guards running around naked

You can also strip stevee

Naked prets look so funny

[pale prairie]

Like 1-2 seconds for most abilities

[limpid lily]

I did notice it doesnt really enable almost perma Gaze Smite anymore lol

[pale prairie]

Lmao yep

I think that was the plan.

Sg nerf…..

[limpid lily]

good

[pale prairie]

[limpid lily]

not that bad but yeah xD

[pale prairie]

Oh yeah it’s so not bad

[ripe obsidian]

1.25 seconds per 30 seconds of cooldown, less if you have other CDR sources.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-looking-for-mouse-cat-gif-26581455

Six looking for his shriek button

Cause it’s on cooldown longer

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek with 6 stacks of Warp Siphon, 3x CDR curios, CDR aura, and 100% PA uptime went from 8.0438 seconds to 8.58

It's somewhat noticeable

But only ~7% longer than before

[limpid lily]

I honestly thought they'd add SOMETHING to shriek.

i know it's not a bad ability at all

but yeah

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek is obscenely strong

[rich spindle]

Some Chinese guy was saying on the forums that hk servers run super defensive easy meta because they treat h40 like the normal mode

[limpid lily]

soulblaze application is great, but I do wish it's a bit more nuanced

[rich spindle]

Everyone plays it

[pale prairie]

Huh

[ripe obsidian]

I did not know this

[pale prairie]

Well they have fun wall shield now

[ripe obsidian]

I guess the defensive meta is just bubble + taunt + book + VoC?

Or whatever else

[rich spindle]

Yeah and smokes

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds... kinda slow and tedious

[rich spindle]

Turn off as many mechanics as possible

[pale prairie]

Well helpful that one guy speaks for all Hong Kong players

[ripe obsidian]

I've heard the same from AgentChaos

When he plays on HK servers

[pale prairie]

Interesting that ping sounds horrendous

[ripe obsidian]

He travels to Asia sometimes

[rich spindle]

I’ve played a couple games on hk and it was book / smoke / bubble every time

[ripe obsidian]

I think Vietnam in particular

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds boring. But I guess if it works

[rich spindle]

It’s fun in its own way if you don’t play a ton

[pale prairie]

They probably do smite too!

[rich spindle]

I haven’t heard anything about smite

[mental flax]

Psyker players

[pale prairie]

Hmmmm

What was the plan?

[strong gulch]

Six said "I have a plan."

[pale prairie]

What the fuck

[ripe obsidian]

I said, "I have a plan" after everyone died. Plan was to rush the end event for the revives. The DH screwed up my pathing and I forgot there was a gap past that railing

[sick heron]

How dare they misspell "Slaaneshi"?

[pale prairie]

I was mostly joking. Smite into havoc 40 is……yeah

[strong gulch]

Six said it here too.

[rich spindle]

It actually works well on rot 😂 😂

[ripe obsidian]

I did not remember that one.

Ow.

[pale prairie]

Yeah hence mostly joking

[mental flax]

There was mire to it

[strong gulch]

Me niether. It popped up when I searched "plan" in my vids folder. Good thing computer remembers when the organics fail.

[deft stump]

Naw. About 50 ping to HK.

[pale prairie]

You are closer than me and UK though

See if Six had a dog this wouldn’t happen

[ripe obsidian]

I kinda dread the return of Rotten Armor + Purple. I remember the purple Dreg Captain surrounded by rotten crushers and bulwarks.

[ripe obsidian]

I don't use Lone Wolf anymore. Always doggo.

[wraith sphinx]

@ripe obsidian had a much better run.

[buoyant maple]

Is this zeta

How many zones does zeta have

[wraith sphinx]

yes, 5

[ripe obsidian]

Doggo does his best. Burgle too chonky

[pale prairie]

Hah

[maiden notch]

Smite is getting LIIIIITTLE boring...

[wraith sphinx]

oh shit I unlocked lambda, doubt I'll play it much tho

only zone epsilon left

[cosmic cobalt]

@ripe obsidian what the mod that show boss spawn

[pale prairie]

Assail!

[fresh panther]

Don't feel bad about using it until you're 30 imo, but you'll get a head start on survivability skills by using other tools

I have used it when teaching new players by reserving it for when they're clearly about to die or are cornered

Just remember to take it off before going into a real match

[ripe obsidian]

Is not my screen, so I know not. Maybe this?

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/194

[maiden notch]

Brain rapture and plus one skill i forgot the name sounds good

[fresh panther]

Psyker was my first main and all it had at the start was brain rupture - it just feels right to me haha

[maiden notch]

Oh god without smite i cant survive anymore 😄

without smite i feel naked

[strong gulch]

I'm pretty sure this is correct.

[deft stump]

Just clutched an expedition and kited till door opened. Bleah. Horde, ragers and a captain. Bleah.

[icy breach]

Everybody wants a piece of Karien

[deft stump]

Everyone else is dead.

I wanted that data relic as well.

[raw garnet]

[deft stump]

So greed is very good.

Managed to leave the capt behind.

Door shut in his face.

[pale prairie]

If Darktide had friendly fire

[deft stump]

Then we ran to extract since too little time left.

Mostly cos I couldn't find the extract so went to door lul.

Can't stop to auspex.

Also, did FS break all the zealot's cowls and hoods?

The free stuff now has hair even if it's a full cowl/hood thing.

Well, specifically cowls.

[cosmic cobalt]

im pretty sure hair is visible ok cowl

it been that way

it just less noticable on some hairstyle

[deft stump]

Dunno. I never changed it. Used to be hidden at least with the hair I use.

[maiden notch]

whats soulblaze

[deft stump]

Reason I asked is cos obvious clipping.

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[deft stump]

The blu fiyah.

[maiden notch]

blue fayah okay.

[verbal thistle]

Blue fire damage over time

Unique to psyker

[fresh panther]

Erm ahktually other classes get it in mortis trials 🤓

I know that mortis trials are essentially just a fever dream though and they don't actually exist

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/baikal-seal-nerpa-eyes-gif-2974505310032962827

[deft stump]

It's all in our heads, right?

[ripe obsidian]

I am curious to see if Oggy's 50% DR on dodge stays in the game. I kinda hope it does. I want more Oggy players to protect me

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean arbites was genuinely tankier

because mfs can actually dodge shit

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not complaining. I want it to stay

It's just very funny to see Ogryn dodge through Blight and take no damage, or dodge into a burster and take no damage

[loud girder]

it should stay if they're not give him dodge linger tbh

[ripe obsidian]

It would be interesting to see the classes attempt H40 without the years of power creep. I am curious how difficult it would be.

[summer prairie]

can you just keep spamming inefficient dodges and keep it up forever

probably too slow

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know the answer to that

In unrelated news, In Fire Reborn got a "buff" with the Souldrinker fix.

Because they used the same logic to check deaths

I will try to remember to put this in my notes

[rich spindle]

How so

[ripe obsidian]

In Fire Reborn and Souldrinker both use the same logic for checking if an enemy is affected by Soulblaze when it dies

Prior to this update, it was inconsistent at best

By reworking the code to more consistently proc Souldrinker, In Fire Reborn will also proc more consistently and stack Warp Siphon faster

I can't say an exact % of improvement, but it should be noticeable

Which is a buff for every soulblaze + Warp Siphon build

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-super-goku-kale-caulifla-top-gif-10180910

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

Psyker didn't even get the Soulstealer nerf

Why do we keep winning

It just makes me anxious about the inevitable nerf hammer falling on us

But maybe the attention can shift to Scum now. Or immortal oggy.

I wish I had access to the telemetry that Fatshark has. I want to see statistics

[pale prairie]

Is there a new patch out already?

[ripe obsidian]

Hm?

The Soulstealer nerf in the playtest never went live

Still sitting at 7.5% tuffness

[pale prairie]

What the

Is it just the description?

It’s not even in the known bugs….

[ripe obsidian]

It didn't get changed at all

They didn't go through with it

[pale prairie]

What the fuck

Whyyyyyyyy

https://tenor.com/view/isaac-tboi-damocles-gif-5805134047658174679

[ripe obsidian]

I have no idea.

Psyker too strong

Too strong to nerf

My uneducated guess is that Psyker has very poor survivability performance compared with other classes across all levels of play, and they worried that nerfing bubble and toughness regen at once would kill all the babby psykers

[verbal thistle]

PC on scum is so dumb

doing Dclaw H40 solo

on rot armor

and they just die

[ripe obsidian]

Perilous Toxbustion

2 stacks is how much damage per tick with your build? I was getting around 75, I think.

[dusk timber]

80-ish i think

[verbal thistle]

well in solo

you get all the spawns grouped

and they all get low at once

so when it does actiavte

its like a wave

[ripe obsidian]

Into the abyss goes ye

So would you say Scum is stronger this patch? Despite the cries of horror over the super gentle Pickpocket nerf?

[verbal thistle]

stronger

[dusk timber]

Absolutely stronger

[verbal thistle]

where did bro come from....... 😔

[dusk timber]

Anyone claiming otherwise has no fucking idea what theyre talking about

[fluid knot]

The people crying about the Pickpocket nerf were people who would struggle with Rampage or Box

[dusk timber]

Im going to be real with yall

I dont really see much of a point in playing zealot with scum existing in this state

[ripe obsidian]

I know. I just enjoy mocking the people crying about scum being "nerfed" into unplayability.

Example

"Why replace the most notable feature of Hive Scum with a half-baked idea of making them a dodge tank while only adding a single mutually exclusive skill to play into said half-baked identity?
Why did we prioritize nerfing Hive Scum in general instead of fixing the more prevalent flaws, like being unable to grab a stimm if I have a custom stimm, or my stimm not having a cooldown until after it expires so I need to avoid the mandatory node that extends stimm duration?"

[ripe obsidian]

We are in agreement. All hail the new Scum overlord. May they take some of the balance hate Psykers get.

[fluid knot]

Reddit?

[weary sable]

@dusk timber I don't really see much of a point in playing scum with zealot existing. Praise the God-Emperor.

[icy breach]

Potentially

[ripe obsidian]

You know it. Similar posts on Steam, and probably on the Fatshark forums

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1ryz2fw/my_whys_of_this_update/

[fluid knot]

Lule, Reddit is the "Heresy" setting of the internet, it truly is

[icy breach]

What is „Malice” then

[ripe obsidian]

Probably Steam forums.

[weary sable]

https://tenor.com/bk13b.gif

[ripe obsidian]

They're somehow worse

[fluid knot]

Steam Forums, yeah

[cosmic cobalt]

man™ if only they stick to the glass cannon with high skill floor design

nah

1 billions buff to hivescum

[fluid knot]

Splash Damage now stacks to 6 on 20 local enemies

[ripe obsidian]

Pickpocket now requires you to use melee once every 2 magazines. Unplayable.

[verbal thistle]

@ripe obsidian you working?

[icy breach]

Pls no… pls…

[ripe obsidian]

Unfortunately. Bus comes in 45 minutes.

[verbal thistle]

kk

have a goofy mission

[ripe obsidian]

Oh?

[verbal thistle]

duck and dive

[ripe obsidian]

Spinny cannon makes me happy.

[verbal thistle]

sabotage, haz5 +2 bugs

[pale prairie]

Yeah stim expiration happening AFTER the effect kind of sucks. Also that 5 second increase makes it 5 seconds longer

[pale prairie]

Hah

Hah spinny laser

[ripe obsidian]

"Why can't I pick up stimms when I have a custom stimm with unlimited uses that I customized for my purposes and is specifically balanced around not being able to pick up consumables?"

• reddit, 2026

[pale prairie]

I will say not being able to use a med stim is sad

But I get it

[ripe obsidian]

You can always choose not to make a custom stimm

[pale prairie]

I would like it if I could immediate use one in chest and it puts my custom one on cooldown

But just for meds

Oh wait I just realized a friend could use it on me

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[pale prairie]

Teammates in pubs uh don’t do that

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[radiant frigate]

teammates in pubs are 95% npcs

not a single thought

[pale prairie]

It’s hilarious to watch arbites with purple wounds and no ammo walk by my pinged stims, ammo pickups, and ammo box

[zealous wing]

if anything, a node that can heal like, 5% hp per use, barring corruption, and ONLY as one of its last nodes, maybe on the toughness branch, hell maybe even less, idk, would be nice, but scum is so overpowered it's perfectly fine without it just sucks being the last alive and having 3 hp and a dream

[pale prairie]

Silly arbeeties

[radiant frigate]

also, ranged arbites existing is incomprehensible to me

like wdym you are not beating heretics to death with stick

[ripe obsidian]

I'm really reveling in the rage of people saying Scum has been nerfed because they can't sit in ranged 100% of the time anymore. These are the people who don't know dodge and block are buttons in the game.

[pale prairie]

It’s because the shotgun gives BEEEG numbers

[radiant frigate]

clearly not of the subductor variety

[pale prairie]

Gotta chase those green circles Kat

[ripe obsidian]

Pewpew

[zealous wing]

it was very fun brain off

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/now-you-see-why-we-got-a-problem-sergeant-langley-panic-now-you-get-it-you-see-the-picture-gif-21735988

[ripe obsidian]

Shotgun fun

[radiant frigate]

i am the green circles (because pubs are npcs)

[pale prairie]

It’s apparently excellent on expedition for its long range fidelity

[pale prairie]

You are the green circles cause you are elf

But yeah

[radiant frigate]

green elf, green circles

FLY TRUE

[pale prairie]

Green leaves

LEAF LOVERS

[radiant frigate]

with some players i do wonder how they got to auric

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1ryhcec/playing_psyker_is_rough_on_expeditions/

Ah, reddit. You never fail to lower my expectations

[radiant frigate]

example

what da ogryn doin

no he did not join late

[pale prairie]

What was loadout?

[ripe obsidian]

His best

[pale prairie]

Obviously no grenade launcher

Or Paul

[radiant frigate]

[pale prairie]

I am curious to try Paul but the pickaxe is so fun

[white sky]

What diff is this in

[radiant frigate]

auric

[white sky]

Classic

[radiant frigate]

hence the question, how do some people get to auric

[ripe obsidian]

I think you can win like 50 malice and unlock auric?

[radiant frigate]

wot

[white sky]

Nah cause you have to go through damns

Idk what the actual number is tho

[radiant frigate]

i thought you needed to win in the current difficulty to go to the next

[ripe obsidian]

I thought even malice increased the counter. I dunno

[radiant frigate]

or higher if dragged aling

along*

[pale prairie]

Like 10 damn wins. If you lose it takes longer

[white sky]

You do, if you lose you lose prog

[pale prairie]

They get their elf friends to carry them

[radiant frigate]

i think i put my back out

[pale prairie]

Ogryns are heavy

[ripe obsidian]

At the risk of repeating myself, a vast majority of the players in this game struggle a lot. It is a hard game. Hence buffs to survivability for almost every class, repeatedly

[pale prairie]

It is funny though to be in games with 1 arbiter and 3 scum one being me and it’s just this clusterfuck

[fresh panther]

Lol wut I swear I unlocked it on scum in like 4 missions

[pale prairie]

Maybe they changed it but I remember it feeling like forever on my Ogryn

Still in dam with my scum

[white sky]

Iirc it's decreased if you've done it before

[empty wyvern]

Hey ya’ll just joined this discord. Was told I can come here for help with the Malleus Monstronum penance. Having trouble just spamming lfg in the mourningstar. Is there a channel for penances?

[zealous wing]

the lfg channels

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[empty wyvern]

Ty

[zinc phoenix]

So the later expedition nodes get more and more interesting

I’m kinda into it

[deft stump]

My back hurts from clutching constantly...

I hate dogs on dogs on dogs on dogs on dogs.

[fresh panther]

Ah yup I had it unlocked on all other classes, maybe that's it

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been goofing with an exe marksman kant9 thing that’s fun

Lots of sniping all the extreme range gunners I’ve been seeing

[fresh panther]

https://tenor.com/view/dags-do-you-like-dags-snatch-brad-pitt-gif-16273104

[deft stump]

I have to basically solo that and captains till door opens...

Pain.

Karking 7.5k in gamma sucks.

[zinc phoenix]

Are there groups for gamma now?

I got in and was constantly queueing into solo servers

[mystic lantern]

how exactly does 100 peril work?
sometimes you can get away with it just by quelling and sometimes you can't

does it secretly go to like 120 and that's the actual number where you explode

[ripe obsidian]

Hitting 100% is not death.

Performing a peril-generating action at 100% is death

[pale prairie]

Yes

In fact the best talent in the game JUST A DREAM can save you from 100% peril

[ripe obsidian]

Exceptions are charging a staff and not releasing it (not death at 100%) or charging and releasing Brain Rupture when you start below 97% (death if you start over 97%)

[mystic lantern]

ok thx

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-smiling-wriogifs-gif-16301765293430165701

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh the funniest thing about JaD is the instant drop from 100% to 97% when hit

It makes no sense

[pale prairie]

It’s awesome

I have gotten off so many warpslices from 100% peril cause of it

[deft stump]

I'm duoing.

[pale prairie]

No you are Karien

[ripe obsidian]

Hi Duoing, I'm Six

[pale prairie]

Hi duoing I’m krieger

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-javi-gutierrez-pedro-pascal-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-happy-gif-25136014

[deft stump]

You all want stealth frags shoved into your pockets.

[pale prairie]

Whoa don’t threaten me with a good time

[ripe obsidian]

Only from you.

[pale prairie]

Also how does a stealth frag even work

Just like tape a silencer to it?

[deft stump]

I'm invis, you get 2 live frags.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-star-trek-gif-19129737

[deft stump]

Yeah, gamma sucks. No wonder why it's dead.

More dogs spawn even before the first group reaches.

[zinc phoenix]

I mean, ideal wall assail map 😂

EP wall assail deletes basically infinite dogs

But I think dust storm is cool so I’m doin that 😂

[empty robin]

So, Male Seer is the canon Psyker huh?

[zealous wing]

[pale prairie]

I was rage baiting Six but uh yeah sure!

[dire wharf]

Ooo, new BFG skin

I don't know if I like it or hate it

[ripe obsidian]

You hate how much you like it

[dire wharf]

I hate that I want to buy it just so I can collect all the BFG skins

[tidal violet]

Does anyone know if the +% block efficiency weapon perk reduces peril gain on Dclaw parry?

[ripe obsidian]

Good question. I am not sure. I would think yes, at least going by Kinetic Deflection rules, but those might not be consistent.

For reference, check KD in Kuli's guide. Is too long for me to paste here.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505

The most salient bit is:

"The efficiency of the stamina-cost-to-peril conversion is also affected by peril cost reduction buffs from Becalming Eruption, By Crack of Bone, Empyric Resolve, Inner Tranquility, Reality Anchor, the small Peril Resistance node, and Combat Stimm; by block cost reduction buffs from Block Efficiency from curios and melee weapon perks, and Deflector weapon blessing (also against ranged attacks); and by the stamina cost reduction buff from Zealot's aura Zealous and Celerity Stimm. All sources of peril cost reduction, block cost reduction, and stamina cost reduction stack multiplicatively with themselves and each other."

[tidal violet]

Interesting- it sounds like it does. I didn't know that the combat stimm gave peril cost reduction. Thanks for the guide, too!

[ripe obsidian]

Kuli is a hero to us all

[deft stump]

They can flank you, that's what keeps getting me.

I literally had 30 dogs on us once.

With like a 5 sec pause between the last pack.

[zinc phoenix]

Well now I’m excited, I’ll see if I can get a game in the zone

I love how wacky and open the expeditions are

I still have no idea how the map stuff works but it’s fine because I also don’t care 😂

I just float around the objectives eating the baddies and then catch up with the team when we’re done

[still spindle]

I mean as long as you run vaguely with everyone else you'll be fine

Expeditions are far more punishing on players who run off

[ripe obsidian]

What stats do you eat?

[still spindle]

Yes >:3

[ripe obsidian]

Ravenous, then

[still spindle]

Got the nickname when I made waaaaay too many spreadsheets for stellaris like 3 different full-game remakes ago

[ripe obsidian]

I understand the spreadsheet event horizon. To cross that threshold is to accept one's fate as a data drone

[still spindle]

Data is the language of the enlightened, the omnissiah has blessed us with it so they we may begin to approach such perfection

[ripe obsidian]

If an ad mech class is released, I will need to make a build guide for it

[still spindle]

God I need an admech class

Gimme rad weapons or like an arc rifle

lemme have a skull floating beside me with a lasgun

[hollow stirrup]

how's the update spark 'eads

[still spindle]

Very nice!

Expeditions are a treat and watching people fail to understand they can't just fight things in one place the whole time is hilarious

[hollow stirrup]

pog

[still spindle]

they did fuck with the telekine wall without mentioning it

-# at least not anywhere I've seen

[hollow stirrup]

the wall got mentioned didn't it?

iirc

[quartz barn]

randoms fighting everything in sight is tragic tho

but if you have a competent team you sweep the map

just had a run where we cleared all but 1 poi

[still spindle]

They swapped the perks, but they changed something about the shock odds and the mini-cooldown between wall placements

[hollow stirrup]

I wanna play with people that are cool

and randoms are uh

not always cool

[quartz barn]

[still spindle]

Blueberries are always a treat

[quartz barn]

sir im orange not blue

[dusky crag]

"Why is there no tutorial for this why is there no tutorial for that" Have you considered trying and learning you fucking uncreative dipshits

[ripe obsidian]

I want it as well. More than scum or arby, though they are both more fun than I expected.

[dusky crag]

"Theg need a tutorial for the new mini games too I think. I figured it out after a few trys but a lot of people will try the auspex once an think sod that lol. " It took me under 5 fucking seconds to understand it are you all stupid?

[ripe obsidian]

It is reddit, so yes.

[thorn cedar]

People genuinely don't pay attention lol

[quartz barn]

them questioning the scum nerf is uh

have they even played scum?

[thorn cedar]

They pick up the auspex, see the screen is different from anything they've seen before, and their minds immediately give up.

[ripe obsidian]

"Nerf"

[still spindle]

I've been playing a ton of scum this week

Stupid fun

[ripe obsidian]

Pickpocket got the gentlest nerf possible, then got buffed in 10 other places

[quartz barn]

prob also doesnt understand what got changed

[still spindle]

They also swapped the perk tree around and it's actually lovely!

[ripe obsidian]

Overall this was a significant scum buff

[thorn cedar]

Never forget the game was severely reviewbombed when they gave Scavenger Aura an actual cooldown, bringing it down from one of the best auras in the game to only being one of the best auras in the game still but slightly weaker.

[still spindle]

Scum still feels very glass-cannon-y, but with a little more safety

[quartz barn]

the perks around the aura are wack

[dusky crag]

It's genuinely insane that the CMs have to listen to these people

[quartz barn]

paths make no sense and always have you waste points

[dusky crag]

this isn't feedback this is gibberish written by a moron

[still spindle]

yeah I am not a fan there

[quartz barn]

like why is the melee perk to the left

[still spindle]

but overall it's good

[quartz barn]

but you are forced to take the stim one if you want the melee aura

cmon

[still spindle]

I think they should gimme a path to both from all auras

[quartz barn]

just make it so the upper left and right perks can path to the middle aura

[still spindle]

like if I have to take one whatever, but lemme choose!

[hollow stirrup]

also I see you played destiny 2 judging by mutual servers stat

[still spindle]

To be fair, sample collector does kick ass

Recovering addict, yes

[hollow stirrup]

🤝

[hollow stirrup]

same

bungie fucked the bag so hard I can't do it naymore

[still spindle]

🤝

Really a shame

[hollow stirrup]

even if marathon is good i'm not buying it out of principle lol

[still spindle]

I'll buy it if it's good

[hollow stirrup]

won't be surprised at all if it gets dogshit like d2 lol

over time

[still spindle]

yeahh

[hollow stirrup]

idk i'm not actively rooting against it

but just kinda like..apathetic? I guess?

[still spindle]

I hope it does good

I wanna see more good games

[hollow stirrup]

ye me too

[ripe obsidian]

Northern Journey is not a coop game, but I played it recently and it was lovely

Beautiful and immersive

[hollow stirrup]

I always love me some deep rock galactic

if I ever find people to play with

[still spindle]

Name checks out

[ripe obsidian]

A dwarf? Playing DRG?

How droll.

[hollow stirrup]

yes

I make all my male characters min height in every game if I can

[verbal thistle]

I could never play drg

[hollow stirrup]

[still spindle]

Knife-earred leaf-lover...

[hollow stirrup]

lmao

god I need darktide friends

i'm always too nervous to join VCs of people in LFG lol

[still spindle]

I'd play some rounds with you but I just started playing more StS2

-# is very good

[hollow stirrup]

I appreciate that, no worries at all

i'll pop a friend request your way and we game sometime perhaps?

if that's all g

[still spindle]

yeah sure!

[ripe obsidian]

For what it's worth, I say >:( when people join voice chats uninvited

[hollow stirrup]

yeah i'd do the same, I at least ask first lol

[ripe obsidian]

Especially because they're often entitled jerks demanding to join a game in progress or something

[hollow stirrup]

truth

randoms who only VC and don't type at all are uh

sometimes funky

lmao

[sly flint]

Question for psyker players

How do I get warp battery completed

[hollow stirrup]

which one is that again

[sly flint]

I’ve been at it for a little ober a year or two

[sly flint]

Keep warp charge at max for 120 seconds

[hollow stirrup]

oh that i'm not sure of

I lurk in here but i've never made a psyker

[ripe obsidian]

Don't use your combat ability.

[still spindle]

Flame staff and "In Fire Reborn"

[ripe obsidian]

Combat ability spends warp charges

[still spindle]

Get on like damnation and you'll do great

[ripe obsidian]

In Fire Reborn just got fixed to be more consistent, so it should be easier than ever

[sly flint]

I’m trying on malice my psyker is still relatively unbuilt

[still spindle]

Brain Burst + Kinetic Flayer will snipe elites you clip for even better results

[sly flint]

I played before all this campaign stuff

Any missions yall recommend?

[still spindle]

You should be fine on anything, 2 minutes isn't that long

Also grab like Inner Tranquility so you at least get something out of it

-# It's actually a great perk, I use it on my flame builds

[verbal thistle]

The cheesecase....

[ripe obsidian]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cheese-wallace-and-gromit-z7WDgVoPhLo7S

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[still spindle]

yeah yeah it ain't optimal but it makes spamming the fire easier

I use it on my "I don't trust this havoc team" build

[ripe obsidian]

Optimal or else

Or else!

[still spindle]

Or what? You'll throw another well built guide at me?

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't actually have an "or else." I was banking on the empty threat not being called.

[still spindle]

hehe

[sly flint]

I’m so confused on what it means by warp charge

Like my peril or the actual icon on the bottom

[still spindle]

Oh, it's from the left Keystone "Warp Siphon"

[ripe obsidian]

It's a badly worded penance.

[still spindle]

Killing an elite grants one stack of a buff called Warp Siphon, Activating a combat ability reduces the cooldown of it by a chunk and clears all buffs

[sly flint]

So what does it mean

[still spindle]

You need to sit at 4 (or 6) stacks for 2 minutes

[sly flint]

My peril or the icon

[sly flint]

What does the icon look like

[still spindle]

Neither, buffs from the "warp Siphon" keystone

same as the icon

Just square

[sly flint]

So I can’t do the penance for a long while

Amszing-

[still spindle]

yeah you'll want a level 30 psyker for it

It gets a lot easier with the keystones supporting abilities

[sly flint]

So

I need the keystone, yes?

[still spindle]

Keystone itself is a hard requirement, yes

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, each class has multiple penances that require access to specific talents.

[spice aurora]

havic tiem

[ripe obsidian]

I just logged on

good timing

I have dis

[spice aurora]

all HAIL GLORIANA

i spent 3 hrs yesterday and went up 1 havoc, i invited 2 rank 10-20s so i brought pain upon myself xD

[ripe obsidian]

I got to 40 with some struggling

[still spindle]

I got sick of actually finding groups to join, and my friends don't play havoc so I'm sitting at like 20 something

[ripe obsidian]

join us

git in here

[still spindle]

Nah, still Slaying the Spire with my boyfriend

have fun though!

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[tired jackal]

what does do

like what kind of dodge

[still spindle]

The kind that means you don't get hit

It also triggers "on dodge" perks

[ripe obsidian]

Hitting enemies with a critical melee or ranged attack (including Assail, Voidblast Staff's explosion, and Elektrokinetic Staff's chain lightning) puts Psyker into is_dodging state against enemy ranged attacks for 1s; can be refreshed during active duration. This effect is mechanically the same as the one provided by weapon blessings Ghost, Hit & Run, and Stripped Down.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505

[tired jackal]

i feel like i need quietude more than it feelsbad

[ripe obsidian]

take both

[tired jackal]

dont have the points otherwise i would

[spice aurora]

@ripe obsidian my comp crashed

@ripe obsidian lmao

[ripe obsidian]

this is art

[sly flint]

Another question

Ahy tips on how to do Malleus Monstronum?

[mellow gorge]

you suffer

[sly flint]

I know

But any tips

[cold ivy]

the easiest way to get malleus monstronum is to be in a party of people who are willing to help you get malleus monstronum

have ogryn with shield + taunt on block pick up the boss and tank it forever while you use brain burst on it, and make sure nobody else in the party does damage (although you have some wiggle room since iirc it's only 50% now and not 90%)

[hollow jolt]

the perfect name too

[sly flint]

Would I ask anyone in here to help me do it?

[deft stump]

A funny psyker build with pogryn or DH can also work. I'm out now though.

[fallow token]

so many elites in hallway now in mercantile

[restive slate]

Look at all them dots

[fallow token]

was the terror point limit not working before the hotfix?

i nvr seen this much in mercantile

[spice aurora]

@ripe obsidian bruh moment

[ripe obsidian]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[spice aurora]

sik duo

[ripe obsidian]

also gloriana and chasm logistratum

[ripe obsidian]

I cornered myself and died at the end.

18 helps, 9 rescues

I also got disabled 10 times, pfft

[spice aurora]

i dont think ive ever had 27 deaths

[ripe obsidian]

I was 2 of them. I suck

I think a burster because I misjudged where I was escaping to, then I got cornered by a ton of orange 21st guys and I just couldn't escape. Accidentally went into a dead end and they were too bulky

Veteran

Get Back in the Fight! - Removed
Dev Note: Get Back in the Fight! was seldom picked, and even then with little success. With the changes to Plasma Gun this new Talent should come in handy:
New Talent: Withering Fire
    Effect: +50% Ranged Cleave.
Executioner’s Stance
    Duration from 5s to 6s
Enhanced Target Priority
    Outline Duration from 5s to 6s
The Bigger They Are…
    Duration from 8s to 9s.
Voice of Command
    Cooldown from 30s to 40s
Only in Death Does Duty End
    No longer increases Cooldown
    No longer decreases Radius
Infiltrate
    Cooldown from 45s to 40s
    Damage bonus Duration from 5s to 8s

@spice aurora

[spice aurora]

thx

o fork yes exe stance yee haw

[ripe obsidian]

I am swayed, though. Street Tough is an absurdly good talent

[pale prairie]

lmao yeah probably

[pale prairie]

sick damage

[ripe obsidian]

I just used it 2x H40

this was the other

well, I guess 4x. We lost 2x

this is the build I am using

with this stimm

oh, wait, one of those was stimm supply

not melee

[fallow token]

so the spawn is broken ig

[plucky flax]

No jittery

[ripe obsidian]

yes, because they changed event spawning afaik, and those sections are coded as events

[ripe obsidian]

no

Jittery is good, but not better than anything I have imo

[plucky flax]

Its free clutch

Outrun enemies with dodges

[spice aurora]

try without jitter u can clutch all the dumbest shit still without jitter i think its overkill xD

[ripe obsidian]

I already do that

this is my stimm supply build

[spice aurora]

but i use the dodge distance so 1 dodge puts me on mars

[plucky flax]

Clearly not if you said you died 2 times

[ripe obsidian]

after clutching very hard repeatedly

I zoomed

Jittery is almost always overkill

Street Tough, however, is OP and I can't believe it exists

[vocal tangle]

I’m trying to get malleus monstronum done. Any maps I should run for an easy daemonhost spawn?

[obtuse dome]

U dont have to kill a dh for that

[vocal tangle]

Ik

[obtuse dome]

So why a dh?

[vocal tangle]

Daemonhosts have the smallest health pool out of the monstrosities

And I have a shield ogryn friend

[obtuse dome]

Alr

I would still just do normal boss

Im not sure theres any guaranteed dh spawns

There is guaranteed monster spawns tho on some maps

[spice aurora]

check lioghts out mission

[fair spruce]

hey yall quick pop quiz

pull out some scratch paper, turning it in counts as attendance

just one question, so give a good sentence or two in your explanation

ah hell wrong channel

[pale prairie]

difference of like.85 to .5

marginal

[ripe obsidian]

it's a good node, just not necessary imo

[pale prairie]

agreed

[maiden notch]

is greatsword good option for a cleave purpose?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[maiden notch]

Which stuff should i use along brain rapture

[pale prairie]

?

Like subnodes?

[maiden notch]

I mean Staff

Mb my ah dyslexic

[pale prairie]

Really any staff works with Brain Rupture and kinetic flayer

Remember to grab perilous combustion too cause it pairs very well with that combo

[maiden notch]

So like, brain rapture charge up is very slow, i hope it gets faster as i go deep down with talents

[pale prairie]

Kinetic resonance helps with that

And the middle keystone is all about buffing your blitz

[maiden notch]

It says using your Combat Ability, which is..?

[pale prairie]

Bubble/wall shield, shriek, or Scriers gaze

[maiden notch]

Ohh i get it

Yeah, works

[pale prairie]

Pop some shields up then pop some heads. Rinse and repeat

Double wall shield lets you proc this twice

So throw up one shield use brain rupture for a bit and then do another wall shield and get it again

[maiden notch]

Oh lord its faster with Kinetic Resonance

[pale prairie]

Yep

[maiden notch]

But i havent reached Abilities yet im at 17

[pale prairie]

At the bottom of the tree

But yeah I would use assail till you get enough levels

It’s the best blitz when you can’t access the rest of your tree

Boring but helps you level.

Or just rely on staff and brain rupture with kinetic flayer for it to be automatically casting on enemy elites

[maiden notch]

Oh ive been using kinetic flayer like a gunslinger with my revolver in the game just for fun, and indeed was fun one taping elites

[pale prairie]

Once you hit level 30 Psyker is a ton of fun

[maiden notch]

Will do in the name of Helbretch

[zinc phoenix]

So I saw a really weird build in expeditions during the middle of the night

[wraith sphinx]

A darktide cryptid

[zinc phoenix]

Basically a psyker build for running as fast as possible with as many ways to CC enemies as possible

So like stripped down + terrifying barrage on a brauto or running shriek with the debuff node

He even had 6 stam

And he used it to slip around the map looting all the treasure and avoiding fights

[wraith sphinx]

Brauto on expeditions is cursed lmao, that's some work

[zinc phoenix]

if you are trying to fight yeah, but if you’re trying to loot you can use it to quickly scare off a pack of ranged stuff and book it while immune to fire

[wraith sphinx]

I think it's suboptimal to just killing said ranged stuff

[zinc phoenix]

I couldn’t make it work because I suck at jump puzzles and my instinct is through not around, but the runs I did with him were comically higher loot than any other run I’ve done

Like 3k-4k tech remnant

[zinc phoenix]

Fighting costs you time so is suboptimal

[wraith sphinx]

Thats solid

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah and it’s even more remarkable because he was solo at the start

[wraith sphinx]

Pulling aggro from a million roaming enemies is also suboptimal

[zinc phoenix]

Yea, so he didn’t

Very sneaky movements, took advantage of parts of the map I’d have never thought to

[wraith sphinx]

That sounds improbable for consistent replication

[zinc phoenix]

I think he’s just a very very advanced loot gremlin

[wraith sphinx]

Prolly

[zinc phoenix]

Once I figured out his gimmick I basically ran on top of him and killed stuff that came near him so he could keep looting 😂

I think a stealth vet would do a lot better but the advantage of psyker is you can shove everything out of the way to escape

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah

[zinc phoenix]

Anyway I can’t make it work but I started running the infantry auto guns more and they do feel nice with the long ranges

[wraith sphinx]

Impossible to go wrong with iags yeah

[zinc phoenix]

I genuinely love that expeditions feel like OG Darktide/VT2. There’s not as many baddies and it’s much more about evading and carefully grabbing rather than grinding thru a set path

And b/c there’s strong incentive to split up there’s more reward for being a solo capable player

[radiant frigate]

indeed but the moment you split from your team they get picked apart by specials

[zinc phoenix]

I mean…..

Yeah there’s a reason I was running a full on special sniper build for a while 😂

[wraith sphinx]

Ramboing off isn't generally worth it imo. 9/10 randoms who try it end up needing rescue

Splitting up into pairs however is optimal