psyker-class

[dire wharf]

@verbal thistle what fov do you use for darktide?

[ionic sorrel]

Is there a fat Psyker build? I've been trying to make one but wasn't sure if there was an "official" one.

[lapis olive]

how does the special infuse attack on the 1h psychic sword work?

[verbal thistle]

which one

there is 2 types

[lapis olive]

uhhh

[verbal thistle]

deimos?

illissi?

ibsurus?

[lapis olive]

yes im using deimos

[verbal thistle]

1 sec

[lapis olive]

bc the way it attaches to an enemy it feels like i have to do a followup

[ionic sorrel]

I mostly just use that one to stab through bulwark shields.

[lapis olive]

are u able to?

[verbal thistle]

in a havoc rn

I can break it down soon

[lapis olive]

no rush !

but thats good to hear theres other infused

infuses

i gotta try them out

[spice aurora]

@verbal thistle

these pillar structures are the bug for me here, like 30 of them scattered lmao

[verbal thistle]

@spice aurora You know the new game mode is procedurally generated?

[verbal thistle]

maybe the pushed some of that process with that 6 gb update and its somehow visually effecting some people's games

[spice aurora]

i had this bug for couple months tho

[verbal thistle]

they dont make this game mode within a month

[spice aurora]

those structures i sent arent real xD all fake

[verbal thistle]

probably been a thing for awhile

[spice aurora]

yea tru

i literally cannot find 1 other person with it

[verbal thistle]

weird

[spice aurora]

lmao

[verbal thistle]

very funny though

[verbal thistle]

Okay, finished with my game

so there is 2 types of 1 hand force sword special

illisii and then deimos/obscurus

gonna get a few clips for you

deimos/obsurucs is a type of "sticky" attack (locks onto 1 enemy and does alot of damage) usually meant for chain weapons

it does 2 hits with the attack

impact/sustained, and release

the release being high damage to reward the single target commitment

illisi increases the cleave and damage of the attack

the opposite of demios (more cleave instead of more single target)

@lapis olive any other questions?

the "sticky" type also will still do the release damage even if you arent near your target

[lapis olive]

thank you for clearing up!! (: i have nothing else

[verbal thistle]

greatswords are alot different btw

[lapis olive]

ill definitely start using illisi when i unlock it

[verbal thistle]

go for it

[lapis olive]

yup

the projectile

[dire wharf]

I've had something like that happen once on another map

[zealous wing]

do be alert tho illisi really struggles against mixed horde, and carapace is a no-go

you'll have to pretend its a power sword with one good sweep then you hit the special button again

[rich spindle]

it has uncanny

heavy attack anything in the head and it dies

[radiant frigate]

it will handle anything smaller than an ogryn no issues

crushers will take a while

and for bulwarks you have really unfortunate swing patterns

[glad furnace]

Can someone give me tips for playing psycher🙏 i can play every other class but i just suck with psych for some reason

[sacred pollen]

Psykers bubble got nerfed :c

[plucky flax]

Nerf when

[sacred pollen]

17/3/26

CD increase from 45s to 60s

some other CD reduction traits also getting a slight hit

[ripe obsidian]

what level is your psyker?

[glad furnace]

20

[ripe obsidian]

That's why

Psyker sucks to play until you hit 30 and upgrade your staves

I have some builds in the pinned build guide to help with leveling

[glad furnace]

Should i just use guns for now?

[glad furnace]

Ohh okay ty

[ripe obsidian]

Assail is your best tool

[tawny crest]

I was in your shoes not too long ago. Use the beginner build in the pined guide here until you reach lvl 27-30. You won't believe the difference it makes. Also worth to note any staff sucks without the correct blessing and passives.

[glad furnace]

Ty guys so much

[tawny crest]

And ofc position position

[ripe obsidian]

let me know if you have questions about the build guide. I can probably answer them.

and if I can't, I can find someone who can

[zealous mango]

Dude Psyker flat shield buff is massive

[plucky flax]

Where patch note?

[ripe obsidian]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-new-free-update-beyond-the-hive-is-coming-march-17/119275/36

[plucky flax]

I dont hate the bubble nerf

Nor cdr

[long saddle]

I never use it below havoc so

now I prob won't ever

[cosmic sigil]

virgin expeditionner vs havoc chad

[wraith sphinx]

Soulstealer nerf, amazing

[ripe obsidian]

I don't think Soulstealer is what needed a nerf

But I get it

[wraith sphinx]

I just didn't expect it'd ever get touched

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker is too tanky and has too much toughness regen. I feel the DR to be out of place more than the regen

[wraith sphinx]

Psyker randoms still suck so that's unlikely to happen for the foreseeable future.
Anyways, hope the new mode has much more replayability than mortis lol

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker randoms do suck

I am not sure I understand the class vision of Psyker from Fatshark.

They gave Malefic a buff, didn't touch Soulblaze, nerfed bubble, and gave Scum perilous combustion

So another patch of +meleeker? However minor.

[wraith sphinx]

The wording in their recent patch notes leads me to believe they're content with mainly playing whack-a-mole. Things get looked at only if they're excessively picked

[ripe obsidian]

Psykinetic Aura nerf is whatever. I don't love it, but I get it. It's a ridiculously easy to proc CDR talent with amazing uptime. Funny thing is that Oggy has almost the same thing, but twice as effective. But Oggy doesn't have Warp Siphon I guess?

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh yeah. Like, why the fuck did they buff toxin and melee scum?

[wraith sphinx]

To improve the dlc's steam reviews

[ripe obsidian]

Someone said that Fatshark's balance decisions seem to be entirely based on the loudest community voices + loudest playtesters.

[ripe obsidian]

Meanwhile I have seen more than one person threaten to quit over the slight pickpocket nerf

I'm looking forward to the Arby middle keystone rework and buffs to alligator stance. New Zealot aura actually seems a bit OP. No opinion on Vet changes

Psyker nerfs are justified but still make me sad

Scum buffs, I think, will cement Scum as the best class.

[tawny crest]

Why in every game when I just got used to play a class it gets nurfs

[wraith sphinx]

Zel got a new aura? What is it

[ripe obsidian]

Buff to the stamina one, I guess. -0.15 stamina regen delay in addition to boosted stamina regen

Which is goofy

[wraith sphinx]

Ooh

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker nerfs are small enough to barely impact gameplay outside of bubble shield

[cosmic sigil]

alligator stance >> peak

[tawny crest]

Well guess I will try new ability I only used bubble so far

[wraith sphinx]

I mean it is what it is. Fatsharks gotta think about upping player retention, game's not exactly bursting at the seams with concurrents

[crisp ether]

keeping it real, this might actually be a top pick for zeal now

stam delay buff is big for them

[ripe obsidian]

I did say I think it's OP

Not for Zealot

But for Arby, Scum, Psyker...

[crisp ether]

Honestly probably should have made it that the aura gives everyone the lower cost but only zealot gets the stam delay.

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe if they

[crisp ether]

I do think it's a little bonkers.

[ripe obsidian]

Added content

Like

Maps

[tawny crest]

Normal Bots

[ripe obsidian]

I'll write my opinions on the psyker portion of the patch notes when they come out officially and tweak builds as necessary

[dull scroll]

PA got nerfed

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-gif-1971632399996289242

[ripe obsidian]

For the... fourth time?

[summer prairie]

surely that 0.2s or whatever will matter

[ripe obsidian]

0.5 seconds to 1.25 seconds on Shriek, depending on what other CDR you have

[summer prairie]

it's 0.5s if you have all the normal stuff?

[ripe obsidian]

CDR curios, CDR aura, and 6 stacks of siphon

[summer prairie]

I guess if it's like 1s on average it's something

hurts dome more

[ripe obsidian]

8.04 seconds vs 8.58 for Shriek

So 1s minimum to 2.5 maximum difference for bubble, I believe

[summer prairie]

with 60s?

I guess so

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah

Bubble must have an insanely high pick rate comparatively. Fatshark really wants people to pick the other options

[wraith sphinx]

Definitely

Didn't I put something like that on my psyker bingo card?

[ripe obsidian]

And honestly, being able to spew out 2-3 bubbles at a time is pretty goofy

[wraith sphinx]

"Pick bubble shield or you're throwing" is a very common redditor sentiment

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah

Despite shield being arguably the weakest of the abilities

[dull scroll]

this entire thing is just a game of seconds

I'd rather them take the axe to the firestick than keep chipping down the cds

[wraith sphinx]

I don't rly care beyond this hopefully actually discouraging bubble crutching

[dull scroll]

it's not just bubble, now you also got to pay more attention to gaze cd

and shriek might not be there when you need that clutch cast to push things

[wraith sphinx]

I don't believe it will be an issue

[long saddle]

ppl just have the notion of psyker being a glass cannon no matter what

so they pick bubble and smite

the funniest thing is smykers saying shit like

protect my back

bro protect your own ass

don't be a tree

[wraith sphinx]

"Wahh I need my bubble bitch" take fucking cover once in a while

[dull scroll]

and just to put things into perspective

that's 10%

PA is up almost 100% time in h40, that nerf is a straight Seer's aura

[ripe obsidian]

Firestick isn't even the crux of the issue imo. It's an overall poor balancing of armor and creating a game mode that replaces meaningful challenge with endless trash mobs. Inferno without X number of other things is pretty mediocre. Inferno with Shriek is ridiculous, and with KF snowballing PC can be as well.

[ripe obsidian]

Not how the math works

Seer's is cooldown * 0.9. Psy aura is CD / 1.6 or now / 1.5

60 / 1.6 = 37.5
60 / 1.5 = 40

Assuming PA with 100% uptime, it was every 10 seconds = 16 seconds of cooldown. Now it's every 10 seconds = 15 seconds of cooldown.

[radiant frigate]

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek with nothing else goes from 18.75 seconds to 20

It is a meaningful change, as this game is often decided by seconds

But it's not as bad as invalidating seer's presence

[long saddle]

I will blame this whenever my shriek is off cooldown by an extra second when I'm trying to save myself from overloading

not my peril management in the first place :^)

[rich spindle]

Shriek should probably have like a 60s cd lol

[dull scroll]

we'll see how it feels in actual gameplay

might not even register

might be a noticable annoyance

[rich spindle]

I do t think I’ll notice

[ripe obsidian]

I think I'll notice for sure.

Current cooldown is just barely low enough that I don't have to quell twice between Shrieks

[ripe obsidian]

Wish granted. SG, in exchange, has a 12.5 second cooldown.

[rich spindle]

And it stacks

[ripe obsidian]

Perfect

[radiant frigate]

scrier stonks go up

[ripe obsidian]

The continuous buffs to melee builds really makes me wonder

Melee builds across all classes

[buoyant maple]

it's barely anything
shud have been nerfed harder

psyker nerf so conservative for no reason

[radiant frigate]

does fatshark think melee is no good

[dull scroll]

they need to cripple vet's krak, PA is nothing

now go away, shooo

[buoyant maple]

krak is in a good spot

psyker isn't

[radiant frigate]

after all, bullet goes faster than your feet can move you

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-laugh-four-gif-7446278225827837893

[ripe obsidian]

I can only believe that telemetry shows players refusing to use melee at lower difficulties

[buoyant maple]

yea it just is

[radiant frigate]

"but this is a horde shooter why melee"

bonk the heretics up close and personal, coward

[buoyant maple]

I like that vet has 2 good blitz picks now

psyk aura nerf makes a 30s CD ult take 20s instead of 18.75s

waoh

[upbeat kestrel]

frags and kraks

[buoyant maple]

can be activated by all kills from everyone in coherency with u still

5s duration still

it's still just unnecessarily generous

[ripe obsidian]

Ogryn gets 2% CD back on taunt for staggering and 100% CDR for 3 seconds on any ally elite kill

[buoyant maple]

yea, psyk aura counts both specials and elites

it's better than bruiser

[ripe obsidian]

It's also less than half as effective

[buoyant maple]

not exactly? because of the way CD rate is calculated

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, it is.

[buoyant maple]

the actual seconds in difference isn't that big between 50% and 100%

just 5s for a 30s ult

not that huge

[long saddle]

meanwhile the 80s PBB cooldown

[ripe obsidian]

17% quicker cooldown is pretty meaningful

[buoyant maple]

ur saying this while warp siphon is -45% CD skip
while psyk aura is unnecessarily generous

they rly were super conservative with psyker nerfs

barely anything

[upbeat kestrel]

1/6 of the cooldown

[radiant frigate]

warp siphon is also smelly and stupid
another 233568 buffs to scrier's gaze

[buoyant maple]

yea, ultimately it's still just 5s
and bruiser has worse uptime than psyk aura

[radiant frigate]

bruiser with 50% uptime is same amount of cdr as psyk with 100% uptime

[ripe obsidian]

1 activation of bruiser is 3 seconds of additional CDR

1 activation of PA is 2.5 seconds of CDR

[buoyant maple]

I think they could have nerfed psyk aura more, but chose not to

they should have nerfed psyker more as well but chose not to

[ripe obsidian]

PA takes longer to do less than Bruiser.

[buoyant maple]

ig 60s bubble is a good start tho

shriek and SG also deserve CD nerfs

[upbeat kestrel]

sg 80 seconds

[buoyant maple]

80s is meme

more like, 40s, and change psyk aura to the other CD rate that can't be activated while ability is running (used by hive scum)

[ripe obsidian]

What about Zealot getting 100% CDR on a critical hit, or 75% on a weakspot hit?

[buoyant maple]

zealot loses tremendous melee dps from not having a dmg ult

did u perhaps not consider that

[ripe obsidian]

No class has a CDR talent that's hard to activate except Veteran

[buoyant maple]

yea

[long saddle]

exec stance is the funniest to me that the timer starts when the ability is activated and you can just double activate it while already active

[buoyant maple]

tac awareness being comparatively bad is justifiable between stance/VoC

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker's CDR talent isn't particularly impactful compared to the other class options. It's not harder to activate than Oggy or Zealot or Arby. Scum can choose to make a stimm, so that's kinda different

[buoyant maple]

just infil suffers as a result

[ripe obsidian]

Is a good point. Maybe ex stance needs to have its cooldown paused while active. 🙃

[buoyant maple]

zealot drops melee dps significantly without a dmg ult at hand, so him having rly good CDR makes sense
ogryn does have rly good CDR but his 2 best abilities are both utility, whereas psyker is just dmg mogging everyone
and hive scum is adjusted according to their 2 duration-based abilities, where his version of CD rate doesn't get called during them, and stim box doesn't care about CD rate

SG by all intents & purposes shud be same case as hive scum's 2 duration abilities, where the class CDR effect doesn't get called

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, but again, Psykinetic’s Aura isn't that strong compared to Zealot or Ogryn CDR. SG cooling down while active is a separate issue, as is Warp Siphon

[buoyant maple]

it can use nerf still

[ripe obsidian]

You just want to nerf psyker

[buoyant maple]

it's unnecessarily generous for a class with too strong abilities & broken kit

[buoyant maple]

yea? it's well deserved

[ripe obsidian]

CDR isn't the problem. Being overly tanky while outputting consistently high damage with little to no downtime is the problem. Psyker needs to lose tankiness or lose damage. Just blanket nerfing succeeds in nothing.

The class is too good at everything

[buoyant maple]

I was saying nerf psyker toughness from 125 to 50 as a joke

[ripe obsidian]

I want JaD to move to just below DD

And remove TDR from SG

Psyker's damage output should be high. The AoE DoT build or glass cannon melee build should be topping the scoreboard. But not while also absorbing damage like it's nothing

Something like Empathic Evasion is a way bigger problem than PA

[buoyant maple]

I’m ok with psyker dps being ~150% of vet/zealot

But not 400~500%

[ripe obsidian]

Like, I agree that Psyker needs rebalancing, but it should be done with a goal and identity in mind, not just turning numbers down and hoping it works

[buoyant maple]

I agree which is why psyker toughness should be nerfed from 125 to 50

If they do this I will stop bitching about psyker being op forever

[ripe obsidian]

Which feels like most of Fatshark's approach to balance, tbh

[buoyant maple]

In fact if they do it, I don’t mind them giving psyker more damage

[ripe obsidian]

I'm pretty sure Psyker loses out to scum this upcoming patch anyway

[buoyant maple]

I doubt it

[ripe obsidian]

The melee and toxin scum buffs seem very silly.

[buoyant maple]

Ranged hvs not changed much

[ripe obsidian]

I don't think about gunscum

[buoyant maple]

Melee hvs ceiling prob won’t reach as high as psyker

It’s just rly hard to have melee compete well vs ranged inf density scale

[ripe obsidian]

The best melee scum I see tend to kill non-trash enemies before I can scale up fire

Though I haven't played Inferno recently

Mostly been surge surge, melee, or trauma

[buoyant maple]

Yea and the best psyker also kill everything before melee gets to do anything

It’s a game of running ahead to kill things others haven’t hit yet

[ripe obsidian]

Because the OP classes don't have meaningful identities and are just good at everything

[buoyant maple]

Shiv adjusted I think?

But it prob doesn’t matter that much in the end

It’s a Rashad world

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, less cleave on Mk1 LMB, I think

[buoyant maple]

I don’t think it’s gonna matter

Currently it’s like 4 cleave?

Which doesn’t go through elites well

Need the cleave talent to do it

[ripe obsidian]

It's low, yes

[buoyant maple]

Post patch, same deal

[dull scroll]

nerf psyker tankiness more is 100% the correct move

they buffed tankiness to try making the class more accessible because the averge pleb psykers are shitting up their stats probably performing the worst of all classes

nerfing cd/dmg on the other hand kills the glass cannon archetype

[buoyant maple]

Yea let’s nerf psyker toughness to 50 fr

[dull scroll]

this de-factor 4.2% PA nerf is not the right direction

[buoyant maple]

Do that and I stop bitching about psyker forever

In fact, do that and buff psyker damage more

I wouldn’t mind

[ripe obsidian]

Prior to the tree rework that added all the tankiness, the big DT youtubers and their followers constantly parroted that Psyker was the weakest class.

[buoyant maple]

They could raise soulblaze carapace adm to 1 if they do this and psyker would still be a balanced class

[ripe obsidian]

It wasn't.

But they swore it anyway

The biggest change to Psyker in that rework was +DR and +toughness regen

[dull scroll]

if their standard is avg player stats, it prob is

the very nature of glass cannon is that elites will be walking gods while plebs will shit the bed

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

I agree.

And this is, almost definitely, the real heart of the issue. The average psyker player is very bad even in high havoc.

[buoyant maple]

On a serious note, prob dropping from 125 to 75 would be more reasonable

[ripe obsidian]

Like, I regularly outdamage inferno psykers in H40 as shield arby

[buoyant maple]

I still think 50 toughness is funnier tho

They should do that for April fools

[ripe obsidian]

But the good psykers are able to use the class well and prove it's broken

So does Fatshark nerf the class for the top 0.1% of players and screw over the other 99.9%?

[rich spindle]

psyker should have a big stam regen delay too

why do the wizard wimps have olympic conditioning

[dull scroll]

I will gladly take 50 toughness if they compensate proportionally in damage/cd increase 😌

[buoyant maple]

Are u sure u understand my joke behind this

[dull scroll]

no, I don't read all the posts

[ripe obsidian]

50 base toughness means 5 toughness in Havoc.

[buoyant maple]

50 toughness means u start with 5 toughness in havoc

And your curios scale off this number

[dull scroll]

did I stutter

[buoyant maple]

Hell yea

Honestly tho I wouldn’t mind any psyker damage buff if they had way less toughness

[ripe obsidian]

https://5e.tools/spells.html#tenser's transformation_xge

[buoyant maple]

Smth smth blessing of the warp smth smth psychic biology

[rich spindle]

it would be cool if bio enhancement was a node for stam regen

and penis size

[dire wharf]

My psyker feels like one, constantly running, chasing the group, running from the rear hordes

[tame willow]

biomancy go brrrr

[wraith sphinx]

it's like doping but we use magic

[plucky flax]

Oh wait bubble knight cdr nerf

Its joeover

[wraith sphinx]

this kills the unsanctionedpsyker

[summer prairie]

Easier malefic though

Or maybe shield knight time

[dire wharf]

Malefic was changed?

[summer prairie]

8s to 10s in the patch

[cosmic cobalt]

one billion psyker buff

[wraith sphinx]

I like the infantry lasgun buffs though I doubt I'd still want to use it on psyker

Main thing that's bugging me is just how long ranged are we talking combat wise with the expedition missions

eh I'll stick to recon las or laspistol

[long saddle]

from just the few clips I've seen of ppl talking over them about changes, it looks fairly close quarters to me

[fluid knot]

I mean... there is nothing wrong with having a DPS class thats hard to play

You either get good, or die trying

🤷‍♂️

[dire wharf]

Stim shady is the perfect reject name

[obtuse dome]

Ive seen like 200 stim shadys and sCUM variatons by now

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-factory-you-will-never-find-another-store-shelf-a-bunch-of-buzz-lightyears-gif-21719996

[fluid knot]

Well I was first, so they can all get fucked

[wraith sphinx]

Couldn't be me, my scum name is pretty unique

[radiant frigate]

my scum name is not at all related to the class

[wraith sphinx]

The only relation my scum's name has to scum is that it was picked out from a premade name pool for outlaws from another videogame

Because I had 0 idea what name to pick and I didn't wanna go with pregenerated names

[dire wharf]

Which game?

[wraith sphinx]

Starsector

[regal snow]

does using right click on psykers powers give them better damage?
like is it a heavy attack version or is it just holding the attack until ready to fire?

[radiant frigate]

do you mean blitzes

or staff casts

[regal snow]

blitzes

[radiant frigate]

for brain burst it allows you to pre-charge it without locking on to a target first

for assail it becomes a faster, higher damage projectile that can lock on to specific targets, good for peeking around corners and taking out snipers

and smite exists and we all wish it didn't

but yes charged smite also behaves differently

don't think i have ever seen uncharged smite

[regal snow]

i currently use smite
its the only one ive used and yeah like
uncharged just seemsvery poor compared to charged

[jovial juniper]

M1 smite is just quick stagger

More used for bursters than anything

[regal snow]

would blazing spirit blessing on the blaze sword proc on killing weak enemies
like the ones that just die in one hit to the head?
if so would wildfire (soulblaze procs on nearby enemies) then proc on everyone around?

[radiant frigate]

no

blazing spirit is only relevant on voidblast

any other iteration of blazing spirit is bait

[jovial juniper]

they die in one hit
They don't get set ablaze because they died in one hit
Wildfire does nothing because they died in 1 hit and wasn't ablaze

[regal snow]

thats what I thought would happen
Was just curious if it was otherwise👍

[wraith sphinx]

M1 smite is very good vs bursters and dogs

[ripe obsidian]

I agree. This is why the absurd tankiness is bad. It's an attempt to make Psyker palatable for newer or less skilled players, which also ends up making Psyker an unkillable juggernaut for very skilled players.

And it's what's happening with Scum right now.

Scum released to like 50% steam reviews and constant reddit and forum posts about the class being too weak and a scam. Meanwhile good players were saying, "Scum is 2nd only to Psyker." And now we're hitting the second or third wave of Scum buffs. Plus a teeny Pickpocket nerf that's causing a minority of people to threaten to quit the game. I wouldn't be surprised to see review bombs over this.

But good Scum players have just gotten an extra dodge, better sprint dodge angles, and free sprint dodging on top of toxin perilous combustion and a few other nodes that appear to be really strong.

It's like Fatshark has no underlying balance plan besides, "We saw how angry people got when Helldivers 2 nerfed a weapon and we're scared of the same reaction."

[regal snow]

is a force staffs m2 worth using compared to smite?

[ripe obsidian]

I assume you mean Electrokinetic?

[regal snow]

my staff is electrokinetic

yuh

im new to alat

[ripe obsidian]

If so, they have different roles. Smite is low damage, large number of enemies hit. It's a CC tool, not damage.

EK M2/RMB is high damage and CC on a single target, with CC and low damage on a second target

[regal snow]

does a force staff also coint as void damage?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[regal snow]

so it can benefit from empyric shock
extra void damage from victims of staffs m1

[ripe obsidian]

"'Warp attack' refers to a list of attacks that have their damage types denoted as warp_damage_types: Force Swords' activated attacks, Force Greatswords' activated attacks, Force Staves' LMB, Force Staves' RMB, Electrocution (Smite, Electrokinetic Staff RMB, Shock Maul special action), Soulblaze, Brain Rupture / Brain Burst, and Assail."

Yes, EK RMB and Smite will both do increased damage if an enemy is afflicted with Empyric Shock

Although in many cases, an enemy will be dead from EK LMB before it's fully stacked

[regal snow]

but not the LMB on the EK?

[ripe obsidian]

LMB receives the boost as well

[regal snow]

im thinking about just mauling a boss with a few LMB into a RMB
or LMB into brain burst

[regal snow]

kk

[ripe obsidian]

Bosses are honestly about the only time EK's LMB doesn't kill an enemy first. Well, them and Ogryn enemies

EK LMB is very strong when paired with Destiny Defied or whatever DD stands for and the Surge blessing

Because EK has a crit stat that gives you +21% crit chance

With relatively low effort you can hit 68.5% crit chance. Due to how crits work in this game, 67% is a guaranteed crit every 2 attacks.

Which means guaranteed Surge proc, as well as all your other crit boosts

[regal snow]

yikes

[ripe obsidian]

The common Surge Surge build uses Scrier's Gaze for unlimited LMB

Because Warp Unbound allows you to sit at the peril cap for no penalty

But I prefer using Shriek, because it gives you fantastic horde clear, which is EK's primary weakness.

This also means you have to be careful of your peril, though

But one tap of quell should be 2-3 LMBs

And you can swap to melee if necessary. I like the Force Greatsword with EK. It's good into armor and has pretty solid horde clear as well.

It just lacks mobility

[regal snow]

isnt it meant it end at 100%?

[regal snow]

i didnt have a good answer to armor
but maybe now that im running an EK with a few perks to buff its damage i should be able to deal with armor easier

[ripe obsidian]

The bonus node of Warp Unbound does:

After overcharging has ended, allows Psyker to execute peril-generating actions while at 100% peril for 10s without triggering the self-explosion. Note that when this 10s duration ends, Scrier's Gaze's base grace period still applies, providing another 1.5s of the same effect.

[ripe obsidian]

EK's LMB is good against flak. Against Carapace, the RMB is stronger. RMB is also a stun and it ignores Bulwark shields

[regal snow]

whats the ability that creates that circle on the floor infront of you, then blowing up

[regal snow]

seems pretty busted
being on a 25 second cooldown and all

[kindred onyx]

new player here, why is it sometimes at 100% peril i can still quell, but sometimes i can't? is it because i went "over" 100?

[ripe obsidian]

Voidblast Staff, also called Trauma

[ripe obsidian]

The cooldown also reduces via Psykinetic’s Aura while the ability is active.

[regal snow]

when you just hit barely 100 you dont go mad
but if you continue doing things that increase peril, you do go mad
also psycic wrath can be used while your tweaking to death

[ripe obsidian]

Being at 100% peril is not death. Performing a peril-generating action that isn't charging a staff at 100% is death

[regal snow]

what he said

[kindred onyx]

thanks

[regal snow]

i was going to mention that
but it'd only go to like... 22.5 seconds or so

[ripe obsidian]

With an exception being Brain Rupture. Starting to charge it at 97% or higher is death. If you start charging it at 95%, for example, it isn't.

[ripe obsidian]

Nope, it can go alllllll the way down

[regal snow]

wild

are there builds to just spam tf out of

uh

scriers gaze?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. I have some SG builds in the Bonanza

Mine and others'

[regal snow]

crazy

[regal snow]

what would you say is the best damage increase weapon perk I should run

just generally

im running sprint efficiency as a test
and I have an extra slot I wana stick extra dmg on

also should i use EK or VB Staffs
which is better at doing what

i run smite so i think EK would be better
but if VB is just better overall then i can use that

[ripe obsidian]

+flak

Is almost always the right choice

On EK, the second would be +crit chance or +maniac

EK is much better at single target damage, voidblast is better at AOE and CC. Pick whichever one you like more. Both are viable through Havoc 40

[regal snow]

kk!
Thank you!

how strong is the overload burst

like when you go over 100%
is it enough to kill an elite raw or will i have to damage them first

[verbal thistle]

you can kill a shotgunner in malice

1200 damage?

that might be with the buff

[regal snow]

I reckon i might just whack them with my sword and then overload
🙏 the ai doesnt screw me over

[marsh current]

best blessings/refines on voidstrike?

[earnest field]

warp nexus and surge gives you a lot of dakka

and for perks, the usual advice of "flak and -" holds. Extra crit chance is nice, or your choice of damage vs

[fluid knot]

That is exactly obese fish's balancing plan tbh

[crisp ether]

#hivescum-class message

[tawny crest]

what are you using for Curios 3X toughness or 1 max health & 2 toughness? Tring to think if with the incoming nerf to soulstealer I should use 3X toughness

[crisp ether]

I run 1 hp 2 toughness personally

[radiant frigate]

decided to level psyker #3

got votekicked on my first game with assail

https://tenor.com/view/vae-gif-15357506855217945854

[long saddle]

I got votekicked for dropping too fast on refinery delta because I ran 10m ahead of the rest

one and only time I've been votekicked

[wraith sphinx]

how lmao, I've never gotten votekicked in my life

[radiant frigate]

hell if i know

[ripe obsidian]

People actually votekick?

[radiant frigate]

that's what it said when i was disconnected

[earnest field]

Literally never

[radiant frigate]

my best guess is they were tired of assail killing everything for 5 minutes

[wraith sphinx]

I've only seen votekicks happen like thrice and only two of those were succesful

[radiant frigate]

and it's funny really

games 1 and 2 psyker does barely anything

while arbites shotgun everything into oblivion

[earnest field]

who gets mad?

[radiant frigate]

game 3 psyker starts to take off

[verbal thistle]

erm

kinda rude

[earnest field]

popular

[verbal thistle]

Trying H40 solo but I activate every ritual

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[verbal thistle]

hey

I almost got 1 Cspawn down

[wraith sphinx]

talk about masochistic damn

[verbal thistle]

the next run I had 1 Cspawn and 2 Dh

killed spawn and 1 dh at half

then my dodge caught a ramp...

[wraith sphinx]

[spice aurora]

is that on communion

[pale prairie]

Glad to see mods that allow greater than 4 boss health bars still have a use…..

[verbal thistle]

mercentile

[spice aurora]

i think my mod caps at 6 or something idk we had like 7 here

[verbal thistle]

default setting is 12

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[spice aurora]

awkward

[pale prairie]

Jesus

[spice aurora]

chungus is god tho we won that still, all hail chungus

[verbal thistle]

I've had 14 before

but thats speedrunning

[spice aurora]

was it beginning of communion or the first carnival map first event area

oh xD

https://youtu.be/kf2BuOXVJmI?si=m6OgOEYK6CCguYN9

one of the dh's just went away and then i became a dh (glowing foggy fart gas followed me)

[verbal thistle]

that happens when too many bosses

I've had 4 dh on me before

[white sky]

Did you ever do challenge runs in other games?

[verbal thistle]

Not really

[white sky]

Just like DT like that?

[verbal thistle]

yeah

[white sky]

Neat

[pale matrix]

is wildifre even worth it on purg staff?

[verbal thistle]

yes

even more so for purg

its a combo talent that wants alot of fire

[pale matrix]

is empyric shock just bad then even if you're using the spam L1 animation cancel tech?

i can do it like 3-4 times in the row semi consistently and IDK if that makes empyric shock wirth it over wildfire or other talents

[verbal thistle]

purg losses alot of dps if it isnt right click

it might kill bosses 1 sec faster?

but I havent tested myself

[rich spindle]

It’s not bad, it’s free damage when you’ve already hit 15/16 stacks, or when you’re staggering ragers for team

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you. I tear out hair a bit when people say Wildfire is bad for Inferno.

[ripe obsidian]

Empyric Shock is bad if you're using it to start a fight. LMB cannot compete with RMB. The TTK on almost every enemy is much longer with LMB-focused Inferno. With that said, having Empyric Shock to use if/when all enemies in front of you are at 15+ stacks is a worthwhile damage increase, but hardly accessible outside of Encroaching Garden, because enemies with 15+ stacks die and new ones with fewer stacks take their place.

For me, Empyric Shock competes with Quietude or Soulstealer in Inferno builds. More toughness regen versus more situational damage.

[long wharf]

do we know what the Psyker changes are going to be?

[ripe obsidian]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-new-free-update-beyond-the-hive-is-coming-march-17/119275/36

[viscid matrix]

So looks like a sphere shield nerf
Everything else is guchi

[cedar pine]

hear me out

fgs with the bullet block blessing

and +9 stamina

[rich spindle]

That’s a great idea

[spice aurora]

This is the new shield wall size

u can watch movies on ur deployable imax theater

[rich spindle]

I wonder how big of a house we can build with 4 walls

[spice aurora]

before: small shack in rural africa

now: beverley hills mansion

[slim moss]

If im trying to do the brain burst penance should shoot a message into lfg? Or is there a channel just for the crazy folk trying to finish some penances?

[zealous wing]

lfg would be it, or here in some cases

[ripe obsidian]

Slight nerfs to toughness regen and CDR. Slight buff to melee psyker.

https://youtube.com/shorts/IZFc5-11Wd8?si=U2QXtEsTSB2WHAI-

[zinc phoenix]

I hope they add vehicles for us to drive around if they’re gonna send us out into a mad max world

If I can drive The Interceptor I will be chuffed

[spice aurora]

i think i lose a lot of my stacks on malefic around the 8th and 9th sec so +2s is yuge

plz i want to pley havoc

[ripe obsidian]

invite me

I got a new keyboard and I need to get familiar with it

[spice aurora]

in game nowq-q

[ripe obsidian]

</3

[rich spindle]

Rev it up Chainsword

Sounds just like a motorcycle

[verbal thistle]

Example of Cspawn looping + grab dodge

[digital elbow]

damage is the dump stat on flame staff right?

[verbal thistle]

No

Its warp res

[digital elbow]

dang

whixh staff has damage for dump then

[verbal thistle]

none

only 2 weapons can dump damage

zealot flamer

and needle pistol can dump any stat really

[ripe obsidian]

You bullied it

[solemn atlas]

I hate it have to take either true aim or kinetic deflection to get disrupt destiny. Its a waste of a skill point

[rich spindle]

And knife 😈

[jovial juniper]

True Aim and KF being called waste

🥀

[zealous wing]

especially KD

infinite block go brr

[solemn atlas]

KD is a good talent but im already generating high peril from SG and low peril resist (25/60) FGS so its gonna throw me off if I pick it and true aim is ehh

[zealous wing]

ive never had it throw me off tbh

do you run JaD ?

THAT throws me off

true aim of the two is pretty meh

EZ

give me that 100% peril maintain

besides you dont block much anyway, unless you really need to, then you be glad you have it

especially for getting resses off

i have a clip somewhere (doubt i can find it), of me kiting/blocking a DH for like 3 minutes while the team dealt with another monster spawn and horde then they helped me with the DH because i had knife and DH wont go down easy to knife

[solemn atlas]

CW go brr

[zealous wing]

suipsyker is easier with ghost

do you have malefic?

explosion is normal damage so if you run malefic with assail its a nice easy +25% damage boost to the explosion

you also have an extra point somewhere you could easily pull from for ghost if you spend time setting up and priming

probably quietude or some such

[solemn atlas]

Thats the issue, I have no points left

Why i originally brought up KD and TA

[zealous wing]

show me the top of your tree?

ah nvm i am looking now

you can remove perilous combustion as well

you dont have anything else building on it, so its pretty pointless

[radiant frigate]

bait used to be believable 🚬

[digital elbow]

ok so is warp res just a noob trap then and that’s why it’s a dumpstat?

[zealous wing]

peril go brr

damage go brr

crit go brr

cleave go brr

[radiant frigate]

it is a stat that does not do damage
and cycling through peril or just building it is generally beneficial

[verbal thistle]

Lower res easier to maintain max peril for max buffs

[radiant frigate]

plus, if a cast overcaps your peril it does not matter

if finishing the cast brings you to 200% or 101% the end result is the same

[spiral fiber]

Is combat knife or duelinf sword better ?

[zealous wing]

depends for what

[fathom adder]

I guess another question is, is it ethical for Psyker to use the dueling sword since it was originally a Psyker exclusive

[zealous wing]

yeah

its not OP so ethical isnt even close to a concern

its strong but not severe

[zinc phoenix]

objectively the weirdest build ive ever played https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=a14dcd43-3ff4-4dd9-b97e-62206ef7b3ea

but kinda fun

relies entirely on not being hit for survival but has a lot of versatility

[radiant frigate]

last night i found out that the mk5 dueling sword with the overhead heavies has higher unyielding damage than ds4

[long saddle]

only time I've noticed someone running mk5 was in a havoc game on a shroudfield martyrdom zealot

[radiant frigate]

i was just using it for funsies

[frail oar]

It felt pretty good on my gunker yesterday.

[wraith sphinx]

Everything feels pretty good on gunker though 😈

[regal snow]

is inferno staff worth using ?

[frail oar]

Yah i forgot to switch off the dodge talent so I had 6 dodges. Definitely too much lol.

[frail oar]

Yes

[regal snow]

should I use brain rupture over the orbs on a dragon staff barrior build

?

is that build any good at all?

also does brain rupture right click do more dmg?

and do staffs make me clense peril faster?

[long saddle]

dragon staff?

[regal snow]

the flame one

[long saddle]

brain rupture does the same dmg no matter what

inferno is good with rupture if you have the kinetic flayer talent as well

[regal snow]

Does showstopper (chance for elite enemies to explode on kill) also proc on kinetic flayer?

[long saddle]

no

it's not a good blessing tho

you want to go blaze away and warp nexus on inferno

[regal snow]

what about penetrating flame?

[long saddle]

situationally useful, but you can stack uncanny strike procs using force push on a blaze sword for rending boost instead

[regal snow]

does the power sword charge complitely ignore carapise armor

?

and would penetrating flame to add weakness to the enemy armor work on it?

[weary crane]

THE SERVERS ARE SO LAGGY

[regal snow]

whats the dif between rending and brittle?

[summer prairie]

rending applies to your attacks and brittle is an enemy debuff

[empty robin]

Cooked or nah?

[regal snow]

Does empyric resolve nerf your tuffness replenishment?
also does the power sword charge complitely ignore carapise armor

[weary crane]

Yes
No

If you're referring to force sword

[regal snow]

i am referring to it
would it work if the enemy had rendering applied to it?

[weary crane]

Wdum ignore

[regal snow]

like
pierce carapise when charged up

[radiant frigate]

enough rending will make you do full damage to anything

not related to the attack itself

[weary crane]

Afaik force sword charge ups don't affect adms

[regal snow]

?

i dont know what you just said

[long saddle]

dmg record, wasn't even garden

just 21st and rituals

[regal snow]

Am I crazy or does swapping to my sword, which has unstable power, increase my soulfire damage that I inflicted using my inferno staff?

[dire wharf]

Yeah. What chest is that?

[radiant frigate]

i think they do but at the same time, imagine running a force sword without uncanny

so it turns into a "who cares" situation

[ripe obsidian]

21st are chonky boys

[long saddle]

indeed

[empty robin]

I forgot the name of the set it came in

Its basically the chest and the pants of that set + the helmet from the drop 2 cycles ago

[dire wharf]

Yeah that helm is nice, I picked it up too

[long saddle]

I like its voicefilter better than the helm itself

I only got the chest

[fresh reef]

anyone happen to know if warp rupture's debuff stacks with itself?

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/vae-gif-15357506855217945854

what is warp rupture

[ripe obsidian]

Venting Shriek applies a debuff to enemies which lasts for 8s. This debuff does two things:

(1) Reduces the damage of all enemy attacks against toughness and health by 10%; stacks additively with the related debuff from Arbitrator's Fear of Justice (against melee attacks) and Suppression Force; does not stack with the same debuff from another Psyker. This reduction of damage dealt stacks multiplicatively during calculation with any applicable damage reduction on the player side (talents, curios, etc).

(2) Increases all damage taken by enemies by 10%; stacks multiplicatively with other damage taken debuffs, with damage buffs, and with power level buffs from weapon blessings. Does not stack with the same debuff from another Psyker.

[long saddle]

if only it didn't have to compete with creeping flames

[radiant frigate]

OH

no wonder i had no idea what warp rupture is

[ripe obsidian]

I have an approximate knowledge of most Psyker things

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-demon-cat-i-have-approximate-knowledge-of-many-things-wise-wisdom-gif-4593239

[radiant frigate]

[zinc phoenix]

im super into this now 😂

wall is already a good time but bbmaxxing while still having ok melee is nice

damage isnt great but the control is amazing

[magic notch]

LF 2 more people to help me get the private game psyker penance

[zinc phoenix]

I remember people trying to gaslight about how warp rupture would be soooo good 😂

“Instead of an incredibly powerful high damage blitz you could mildly buff teammate damage!!!”

[marsh current]

what melee is a good combo with the inferno staff

[frail oar]

Force swords knife dueling sword

Ideally something with uncanny

[weary crane]

Deimos/obscurus force sword for damage, Mk5 duel sword for mobility

Both have uncanny

[marsh current]

why is uncanny good for that?

[deft stump]

Uncanny rending buff on burning armoured targets is funny.

[crisp ether]

blast inferno in mixed horde, pull out melee, get uncanny stacks

mixed horde die

even crushers will start melting when you snowball it well enough

[spice aurora]

how do i end the mission it wont end lol

@verbal thistle

been like 5min

[verbal thistle]

Oh that's a bug in that map

I haven't had it before but you just have to leave

Idk why It does that

[spice aurora]

weird

[verbal thistle]

Seen a few people with it

[spice aurora]

only different thing i did was fgs special everything in middle when we got in room xD

[digital elbow]

are the blaze swords warp res for dump like the staves?

[verbal thistle]

yes

[digital elbow]

thanks

i will have to get a new greatsword then

[long saddle]

now the real question is how low will you dump it

[ripe obsidian]

I rarely have anything not a crusher still alive when at 16 stacks

[long saddle]

I really only uncanny stack in havoc

[ripe obsidian]

I only feel it's needed in Rotten Armor, particularly rot + purple

Not beneficial otherwise

Soulblaze and Inferno have >=100% ADMs on all but carapace

And only Crushers are Carapace default

Swapping to uncanny stacking means you lose Blaze Away, which is more damage against everything not a crusher

[spice aurora]

never have i seen a boss spawn in an elevator lmao

[verbal thistle]

thats the special spawner for that area

so thats just a monsterous special

[timber moon]

I need to knife ogryn so fucking bad

I want to punch everything

[verbal thistle]

its so fun

[jovial juniper]

A bit more to the right and you could try mantling the guard rails on the floor below

[spice aurora]

peak comedy

[verbal thistle]

splat

I have a clip of that same thign

same spot too

[spice aurora]

XD nice

i miss gloriana

and oubliette

[long saddle]

I hope they rotate out rituals

even tho it just rotated in

[rich spindle]

Gloriana best map

[rich spindle]

Where da hell are the written patch notes

I hate that they’re scattered on random forum posts and yt vids 💔

[verbal thistle]

ate em

😔

monday or tuesday

like usual

[full river]

Another flavor of suicide psyker fabulous

[ripe obsidian]

Pray tell, are Havoc queueueueues down for the patch?

Most big patches kill Havoc for a few days before resetting ranks

[ripe obsidian]

Butts

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[ripe obsidian]

Time for the joy of another rank reset

[ripe obsidian]

My desire to play the game is much reduced without Havoc.

[tepid crypt]

How do you use the greatsword ability on PC?

[verbal thistle]

special action keybind

I think default is v?

idk

[ripe obsidian]

I thought the default was a mouse button

M3 or whatever

[tepid crypt]

Thanks guys

[potent echo]

I heard psykers got buffs in this update

Are there any patch notes or just CC exclusive stuff now

[zealous wing]

psykinetic nerf, bubble nerf, soulstealer nerf

[potent echo]

[zealous wing]

mm buff 2s

[rich spindle]

We get imax screen

[zealous wing]

walls enøarged

enlarged*

PA is from 60 to 50
bubble is from 45s cd to 60
idk what soulstealer is nerfed to

[potent echo]

I actually forgor what PA and MM is

[zealous wing]

psykinetic aura

malefic momentum

[radiant frigate]

soulstealer 5%

[potent echo]

MM went to 12 sec?

[radiant frigate]

MM went to 10

up from 8

[ripe obsidian]

Small nerfs to most things. Big nerf to bubble. Small buff to meleeker

Arguable nerf to wall shield

[radiant frigate]

funny how soulstealer used to be 15%

[potent echo]

I assume DD wasn't touched

[ripe obsidian]

Soulstealer is still OP on Soulblaze builds and mediocre otherwise.

[thorn cedar]

nerf??

[zealous wing]

wall shield made bigger, 2x swaps place with electrified, small cooldown, idk feels like a buff

[potent echo]

How much bigger we talking

[zealous wing]

imax

[potent echo]

Like 5 ogryns

[zealous wing]

2x bigger

yeah

honestly

[potent echo]

Damn

[zealous wing]

could cover oggy buddies now

[radiant frigate]

yuge

[ripe obsidian]

2x wide means it'll drop faster. And if they fixed the special/monstrosity damage bug, they'll do 8 damage to the shield instead of 1

[potent echo]

But you get two

[ripe obsidian]

You already got 2

[zealous wing]

if they fixed the "it only works 10% of the time to stop specials" its a buff

[ripe obsidian]

It works like 90% of the time

But if it goes from 1 damage per special blocked to 8, it's gonna break instantly

[zealous wing]

i have a clip somewhere of tapper yoinking fea straight through

[thorn cedar]

Nah not how the health works

[potent echo]

Did they touch gaze

[thorn cedar]

Same as bubble there's a cooldown between hits

[potent echo]

Like give it attack speed maybe

[zealous wing]

i wish

[potent echo]

[thorn cedar]

It will always last a minimum of 6.6 seconds if it's taking a full onslaught of ranged fire + you get two still

I presume they won't be fixing the bug for specials but guess we'll see

cause if it breaks after just three specials touch it (what it originally was) then it'll just be shit again

stopping three specials was pretty cool when the trees originally came out, but that was before we had Maelstroms, let alone Havoc

[verbal thistle]

atleast havoc will be harder when it comes back

[wispy bay]

What has changed?

[rich spindle]

The modifiers will be purple, rot, and goo

[verbal thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1348066496223514704/1482903338738651248/image0.jpg?ex=69b8a4da&is=69b7535a&hm=15a6dc92e287a495f173e0d6ff2cfcd3bfedfbb564ba3be32109a0ed702ec48b&=&format=webp

[buoyant maple]

soulstealer nerf is pretty significant

7.5 down to 5 is a 33.3% reduction

[zealous wing]

i hope archivum is removed from the pool this time

[thorn cedar]

yea but like

5% x 300 soulblaze kills

they should make it so that if you use fire staff too much you become sterile irl from all the fire boiling ur balls

[buoyant maple]

it'll just be slower to recover toughness

[marsh current]

Have you all noticed that fire staff is like nutting

[thorn cedar]

do not elaborate

[zealous wing]

go back to zealot chat

[marsh current]

[rich spindle]

I don’t think the soulstealer nerf matters for flame staff

[thorn cedar]

which is obnoxious to me because i know that's the reason they're doing it

[rich spindle]

I think quietude is the better choice there anyway

[wispy bay]

Gun Vet will get even harder time in Havoc with this.

[rich spindle]

I guess you can pick both

[thorn cedar]

i think the better choice is reworking fire staff right under everyone's feet and turn it into sienna's fireball staff

fuck that staff

[rich spindle]

The Chinese government will invade Sweden

[thorn cedar]

why not just give it slaughterer at this point

some moron already thought it needed fucking blaze away

[rich spindle]

If that happens

[buoyant maple]

what psyker rly needs is toughness reduced from 125 to 50

[fluid knot]

Imagine matchstick actually being balanced

Truly we would live in utopian times

[thorn cedar]

its frustrating to watch because we all know what the problem child is

it's one item in the entire arsenal

why adjust anything else in the tree (which globally impacts all other choices) when fire staff can be run grey with a naked tree

[buoyant maple]

yea, toughness too high

nerf to 50

[thorn cedar]

i dont think soulstealer nerf is gonna be too rough on my gunker builds but why are my assails taking a hit

[radiant frigate]

why not just go change souldrinker then

[rich spindle]

I don’t think they’re ever going to nerf it

[fluid knot]

Don't think anyone does at this point, but we'll still grumble about it

[rich spindle]

The average bubble flame psyker barely breaks 1m in havoc

[buoyant maple]

all psyker nerfs = good

[radiant frigate]

120 more buffs to sg

[buoyant maple]

I unironically would be ok with 120 more buffs to sg if psyker toughness is nerfed from 125 to 50

[fluid knot]

Instructions unclear, Psyker no longer has any toughess and all toughness related skills have been removed

[radiant frigate]

instructions unclear, psyker toughness now completely replaced by peril

[buoyant maple]

does that mean taking 100 toughness dmg gives u 100 peril

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[buoyant maple]

so taking 101 toughness dmg just makes u auto explode

if so, pretty based

[radiant frigate]

no that is when you start taking health damage

[buoyant maple]

nah just explode

[radiant frigate]

yeah true just explode

crystalline will stonks go up

[potent echo]

Coherency peril regeneration

[zinc phoenix]

today i was told i was the best lmao

[zealous wing]

bcob, BM, ER, solidity

[zinc phoenix]

i soloed a huge herd of crusher and a pogryn with my weird bb build

so that was fun

it was just me and the other guy at that point so we ended up dying but its always nice to hear

[potent echo]

[ripe obsidian]

A 50% increase seems quite significant.

[radiant frigate]

yesterday i was told i am a bad teammate

[tepid python]

putting up that final stand instead of stopping to die is peak

[summer prairie]

This is all wrong

[verbal thistle]

wasnt 100% until the patch dropped

[summer prairie]

Terror points are for events only and the elite spawning part likely does not mean any elite can spawn

Looks like AI generated so not surprising it's wrong

[verbal thistle]

true

friend dm'ed so wasnt 100% sure

[summer prairie]

I also saw it on a video

[upbeat kestrel]

Heh would be fun. I dont understand why they gave scum 100 base toughness

[buoyant maple]

their total toughness is the same 125 (but less TDR than before)

[upbeat kestrel]

Ok thanks

[buoyant maple]

they removed 10% TDR & 10% ranged dmg talent
and baked one of the two +25 toughness nodes into base

currently: 75 + 25 + 25

post-patch, 100 + 25

[wraith sphinx]

I cast head explode on this chat

[dusk timber]

I cast head not explode

[radiant frigate]

i cast bonk

[radiant frigate]

[marble onyx]

made with a bit of help from a friend, how's this?
I'm using the force sword (one-handed) and a voidblast staff that I pretty much exclusively use the secondary for

[summer prairie]

no comment

[radiant frigate]

yes comment

[zealous wing]

i will comment

what force sword

[marble onyx]

I mean, I really like illisi, but I understand that the consensus is Deimos is superior in basically every single way

[zealous wing]

well

essentially yes, sadly

[marble onyx]

damn

[zealous wing]

so uh

[dusk timber]

Illisi kinda pointless when greatsword exists

[radiant frigate]

many things to comment on

[zealous wing]

explain to me why you've picked what you did?

[marble onyx]

greatsword feels like I'm swinging through sludge tbh
can't get into it

[dusk timber]

I will also comment

[marble onyx]

any particular parts?

[dusk timber]

What voidblast staff :3

[zealous wing]

dont need every talent but things like battle meditation, brain burst with kinetic resonance upgrade, etc

[dusk timber]

They picked flayer not resonance

[zealous wing]

if comms would be easier then we can go VC if you want

[radiant frigate]

1. skipping perfect timing
2. skipping kf
3. seer's presence + sg
4. realoty anchor
5. EP

[dusk timber]

Oh nvm then

Thought flayer was the one above for some reason

[dusk timber]

Realoty

[zealous wing]

realoty

[radiant frigate]

zealoty

[zealous wing]

i didnt even see that

everyone laugh and point at kat

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[marble onyx]

battle meditation I picked early on because I was struggling to keep peril down, but I suppose I could swap that over to one of the others now
resonance I like manually doing brain bursts, and having them back to back after I pop scrier's is fun, especially when I've got empowered psionic stacks up
mind in motion I just can't get over how much I'm helped by the movement, then crack of bone and warp splitting are to help me in crowds, which happens often
just a dream and one with the warp... just seem really good? in general?
I tried precognition but I just kinda wasn't getting use out of it and the reduced peril generation of reality anchor is good for both brain bursts and voidblast secondary spam
warp ghost for the toughness buff

[zealous wing]

well explained

[marble onyx]

lol ty

[zealous wing]

are you familiar with slide quelling by chance?

or, tap quelling?

[marble onyx]

little bit

[zealous wing]

once you get the hang of those, MiM will be less necessary you'll find, do try to practice them

its the same with reloading weaponry

[dusk timber]

Mid in motion

[zealous wing]

OWtW is good, JaD is preference based

so, fine there

bcob however

it works against you more than you'd think

[marble onyx]

once mind in motion is less necessary... I guess swap it for malefic momentum if I want to keep warp splitting and crack of bone?

oh wait really?

is it the reduced generation?

[zealous wing]

yeah

specifically the quelling part actually

if you're meleeing things, and you quell, you lose cleave and damage with each swing

[marble onyx]

I'd been seeing it as an easy way to keep Scrier's active tbh

[zealous wing]

you have no need to stay in scriers

its cooldown is really short

[marble onyx]

it is, and the aura and the passive just below the aura sometimes make it stupidly quick...

[zealous wing]

this node is also not needed, with assail it'd be easier to utilize for support, but with BB its too slow to activate in a tactical manner

[marble onyx]

I mean, the combo of resonance and empowered makes the cast like a second long it feels like, and that's how I'm most often using it - is that not fast enough?

[radiant frigate]

i like it a lot on sg melee psyker

[marble onyx]

which is kinda what this is, just with bb or voidblast secondary where I feel it's better

but I get hexis' points

[radiant frigate]

i would 100% skip it if going for a shriek variant

but with sg (and JaD) it's fine

fuels your toughness economy

[marble onyx]

also this makes it safer for me to quickly swap to bb and pop a problem like a flamer or crusher while there's some enemies around me in melee

[zealous wing]

what kind of trauma

voidblast)

[marble onyx]

flamers mostly
I like being able to see lol

[marble onyx]

voidblast I find a bit more difficult to explain my choice over the other staves or guns
it doesn't hurt that it's the fastest-quelling option of my three ways between the staff, the sword, and my hands
I feel like the aoe secondary is my best way of getting rid of smaller specialists like shotgunners that I don't want to spend the time and empowered stacks on to pop or get close to

[radiant frigate]

flamers are also very shootable with little bolts

[zealous wing]

but what kind of voidblast

[radiant frigate]

also kinetic flayer with voidblast is funny because of the gigantic outer radius

[zealous wing]

definitely not blazing trauma, since oyu have no fire or kinetic flayer

[radiant frigate]

you can miss entirely and still pop an elite/special head

[marble onyx]

uhhh... you mean like its stats?

[radiant frigate]

blessings and overall setup

there are two schools of thought with voidblast

nexus/blazing and flurry/rending

[marble onyx]

oh, warp flurry and blazing spirit

[zealous wing]

⏸️

[marble onyx]

blazing spirit I'm not sure about though

[zealous wing]

you lack the crit chance

[radiant frigate]

one of these needs to go

blazing spirit is no bueno without enough crit

[marble onyx]

gotcha

[radiant frigate]

and other soublaze synergy, mostly perilous combustion

[zealous wing]

with enough crit tho it goes brrr

[marble onyx]

rending shockwave?

[zealous wing]

blazing trauma go brr

[marble onyx]

gonna be honest, all the additional UI elements make it difficult for me to tell what's going on

[zealous wing]

auric maelstrom, I II V E G

the arcs are visual indicators for played sound cues

[radiant frigate]

real wizza

[marble onyx]

okay, now that I've focused enough to see it...
hmmm
secondary spam soulblaze application plus perilous, wildfire, and souldrinker?

[zealous wing]

rending trauma also has a place

[zealous wing]

and shriek with creeping flames to stack higher

[radiant frigate]

ah shit, the fidget build

[zealous wing]

its unironically h30 cleared

wasnt even me who ran it

[marble onyx]

I might be blind but I don't see rending trauma on blessings or talents?

[zealous wing]

rending shockwave on trauma staff

[marble onyx]

ahhh right

[zealous wing]

trauma being voidblasts old name

[dusk timber]

And also something almost every darktide character has in spades

[marble onyx]

okay yeah I thought rending shockwave looked like it might work

[zealous wing]

its versatility is quite nice

[marble onyx]

what does brittleness do? reduced armour effectiveness?

[zealous wing]

and with the staff being rending rather than soulblazed, i dont have to worry about other psykers at all

brittleness is an enemy debuff

and, yeah essentially that

[dusk timber]

Basically the same as rending but as a debuff you put on the enemy rather than a buff on yourself