psyker-class

[verbal thistle]

Heavier ranged focus

[knotty saddle]

I figured out spamming heavy attack into gun executes kinda makes you live forever

either invincible bc in execute animation or regening too much armor/health to care

thats why I called it simple, it feels kinda one dimensional

although that Thousand Suns gunner was recking my ass until the end of the game

those missle barrages and minigun are no joke

[verbal thistle]

Rocket Terminator is rough

[restive slate]

I hate the fact that SM2 could make 2 distinct enemy factions gameplay wise while DT settles for enemies with reskins from their own commissaries

[patent jacinth]

Interesting statement when by all accounts chaos fucking sucks

[verbal thistle]

Chaos is not fun to fight

[knotty saddle]

2 factions but way less enemy types

[verbal thistle]

For nearly the same reason range spam isn't fun in dt

[knotty saddle]

by like a factor of 10x

[knotty saddle]

whats the reason?

[verbal thistle]

Often get forced to not be able to engage in melee, and if there are too many to fight you just hide and wait

[knotty saddle]

ah true

[verbal thistle]

And 1 minor mistake you get shredded

[restive slate]

I propose the enemies get a natural 10% inaccuracy, with friendly fire

[verbal thistle]

They already do have friendly fire

But I like the idea of accuracy

[knotty saddle]

isnt supressing fire supposed to reduce their accuracy

or is that something I hallucinated

[verbal thistle]

Kinda goofy that a shooter from 100 meters has pin point accuracy

[radiant mesa]

As a heavy main, I like chaos

[verbal thistle]

I can't remember anything like that

[restive slate]

By the time we suppress enemies, they're dead or we are

At most they hide and run away

[knotty saddle]

oh I meant suppression

apparently their stop shooting at you so hard and take cover or scatter or something

is this true?

[ripe obsidian]

This is why I am kinda against removing scum or psyker ranged immunity until something gets rebalanced. Immunity is dumb, but so is needing immunity to be able to play the game

[verbal thistle]

Yeah that's how suppression works.

A different style of stagger only for certain enemies

[restive slate]

I want voicelines indicating suppression, smth simple like "Fall back!", "They're monsters!" or "We're getting overrun!"

[verbal thistle]

But it will only stun them for like a second then they just continue firing

Some of the shooters do have lines like that

Don't think it's related to suppression though

[restive slate]

All I hear is some muffled radio speech then the BRBPRLERGH when you cave their heads in

[quartz barn]

Average gtfo moment

[white sky]

Big guy here

[quartz barn]

Ping ping, ping bleeding ping

[hearty wolf]

@hardy citrus should not have played that game yesterday

I'm tired af 😭

But it was fun

[spark girder]

How do you unlock the kinetic witch rainment?

[zealous wing]

this one?

if so, by doing penances

you need 3500 points

if you mean this raiment, its 1k

[marble crater]

You unlock all cosmetics by playing the game, you are welcome

[zealous wing]

untrue

commodores

[marble crater]

Still need to play to buy them

[zealous wing]

not really, just gotta buy the game

[north otter]

there are those deluxe edition cosmetics

you get those before you start

[zealous wing]

lol

also true

[north otter]

I bought that without really knowing anything about the game and it was a bit weird tbh

it's weird playing as this no-name convict but youre gucci'd to the socks

[knotty saddle]

what would Dr Robotnik build as a psyker

[spark girder]

I see, thank you

[velvet wind]

YOU!!!!!!!!🫵🫵🗣️❗️

[knotty saddle]

??

[velvet wind]

Hi <:3

[knotty saddle]

hello

[sage pulsar]

Clearly Robotnik is evil and thus builds smite /hj

[jovial juniper]

I mean
He dealt with electric stuff before

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-dr-robotnik-electricity-omg-sonic-the-hedgehog-gif-24693662

https://tenor.com/view/sonic2-agent-stone-take-me-with-you-eggman-lift-gif-25602081

[low merlin]

Ever heard of Psyker humor buddy?

[hardy citrus]

yeah I got up mega late too

Game was a good one tho

[knotty saddle]

ive been playing a LOT of electrokenetic staff brain burst shriek

and im worried its making me... bad at the game LOL

it feels kind of crutch

[jovial juniper]

Psyker is the crutch

[knotty saddle]

brb grabbing smite

[knotty saddle]

psyker question. ive seen psykers take inferno and melt the wave in seconds

like touching armor waves and the entire killscreen is just them

I take it and it hits like wet noodle?

[mental rock]

What are you running on it

You want blaze away+nexus and dump warp res

[knotty saddle]

Im running those two

and trying to stay above 80% peril

[pure plinth]

uncanny strike

[knotty saddle]

on... inferno staff?

[mental rock]

Pen flame is not great

You can take a melee with uncanny to swap to though

If you get stacks while stuff is still burning it can be a significant damage increase

[jovial juniper]

On your sword

Or knife

[pure plinth]

you can use the blaze force sword, combat knife, or the dueling sword for uncanny

[jovial juniper]

Apply Soulblaze
Stack uncanny

[knotty saddle]

that sounds like a bug

[mental rock]

And btw you want to shriek while stuff is at max burn stacks because the burn cap for shriek is higher than staff

[knotty saddle]

im playing bubble currently

[pure plinth]

people have been doing it for a long time now

[knotty saddle]

;.;

[mental rock]

Yeah uncanny has been like that for years now

[jovial juniper]

Intended interaction

https://tenor.com/view/suit-meme-gif-3154536417054843778

[mental rock]

In fact on release I'm pretty sure it worked all the time, not just when your melee was out

[jovial juniper]

And it worked on barrels

[mental rock]

Yeah, that was funny

[pure plinth]

when you get enough crits with the inferno staff, emphatic evasion is proced enough that youre functionally immune to ranged

bubble is nice but it has less dps to shriek

and when you have emphatic, youre only really taking bubble for your team

[white valley]

Bubble builds often don't take empathic evasion for precisely that reason

[thorn cedar]

you dont even really need empathic anymore

not with the new and ridiculous ranged dodge linger they added a little while back

just mash dodge 24/7 and bullets will never hurt you

[hardy citrus]

stack the burn up, swap to force sword, spam push attacks

profit

[zealous wing]

until they fix it at least

i guess, though, IF

[zealous wing]

but yeah, inferno, shriek, deimos with uncanny

otherwise the process will be about twice as long, if not more

if you have bubble instead of shriek that is

[knotty saddle]

oh great its lingering flamestorm again

wait that force is staggering overheads??

thats even more disgusting

is this the cheesiest cheese in the game?

or is there something yet cheesier?

[mental rock]

There has been cheesier things in the past

Like chastise rending working for all weapons, or bleed dog with bistol

Uncanny is also very funny with throwing knives, killing a crusher with dinky little knives

[knotty saddle]

I mean knifes are actually very effective against armor

just gotta get them in the slits

I guess technically thats not effective vs armor but armor gaps. oh well

[mental rock]

Yeah now try doing that with a throwing knife

[knotty saddle]

zealot is just THAT skilled

[deft stump]

You don't even need bistol, just dog leaping already hits 8 stacks on everything near and 16 stacks on the pounced target.

[thorn cedar]

i kinda miss the full rending chastise but only in a selfish way because it made bolter that much better against crushers

i was not a fan of it letting shredder autopistols melt carapace lmao

[hardy citrus]

god i miss chastise working for ranged weaps

i remember mowing down crushers with an autogun

[mental rock]

Well sure but bistol extends the range and puncture used to work with the blitz, which was the main interaction I was referring to

[hardy citrus]

like they were bruisers

[pure plinth]

the health changes made uncanny throwing knives a bit worse

sigh

[jovial juniper]

Force Sword push attack
Always target weakspot
9 meters reach
Stagger pretty much everything not boss

Deals 1 damage

[knotty saddle]

HUG

BIG

[quartz barn]

Wasnt there a thing where dogs would constantly pounce, ramping up the stacks way faster too?

[deft stump]

It's been 1.5 sec CD. Thing was, everything died so fast, they just jumped again near instantly.

[thorn cedar]

it would double stack

[deft stump]

4 dogs built that way just massacred anything that wasn't a crusher.

[thorn cedar]

yeah it was a lot of shit all at once

[deft stump]

Or a boss.

[thorn cedar]

currently the dog only bleeds the actual target that is pounced

originally it would bleed any target that it touched while in flight to the target, then apply bleed to the target, and also apply bleed in a small AoE around the target

[deft stump]

8 stacks everything near, another 8 stacks on target.

[thorn cedar]

and yeah it was 8 stacks too lol

16 instant stacks on the thing you tag + all trash would die around it

[weary idol]

it still bleeds things around it just in a much smaller area

that small AoE is still there

[deft stump]

It's too small now to bother imo.

[thorn cedar]

yea its hella tiny, only really procs in a waterfall

[weary idol]

no it's definitely still good

[thorn cedar]

iirc it was 1.5m before

[weary idol]

helps a lot with rager jumpscares

[cosmic sigil]

db + kinetic flayer is so fucking fun

[thorn cedar]

wonder why shield wall benefits from EP at a 500% rate

[cosmic sigil]

because of the other br talent?

[thorn cedar]

nah its some other shit

[cloud folio]

playing psyker for the first time

is this any good

https://youtu.be/tSm7hsh2EM0?si=aD-xaujnhA5m93S6

melee one here

[knotty saddle]

its the best actually

[cloud folio]

can't post screenshot

[zealous wing]

take everything coming out of mr e's mouth with a massive dose of salt

if you mean the gunker build he's selling at the end

theres good builds in the pins for that

guarentee you he has nothing special or unique or that no one thought of mixing at this point

he does have the wrong mark of reconlas tho

[ripe obsidian]

There are basically no youtubers with good takes on or builds for Psyker for some reason

[zealous wing]

if i had the brain for it i'd be tempted

[ripe obsidian]

Brains are overrated

[zealous wing]

except for the fact that if i can't explain things properly, it'd be a bit problematic

[ripe obsidian]

Reject brain, embrace mental anarchy

[zealous wing]

i did, thats why i cant find shit

[hardy citrus]

This is what a script is for

[plucky flax]

Nearly 3 mils no rot

Round was too long though that's why

[ripe obsidian]

How long?

[plucky flax]

40 mins

So actual mission is probably low 39 or high 38

[ripe obsidian]

I usually hit 2.5m+ by 40 minutes

So you're still above me. D:

[plucky flax]

[ripe obsidian]

Too powerful

[plucky flax]

It's all the cheat mods.

Spider sense op

[ripe obsidian]

https://giphy.com/gifs/aaron-paul-jesse-pinkman-he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-this-3oEjHCWdU7F4hkcudy

[wraith sphinx]

I qp heresy for a quick chill game and this is what I get 😩

[zealous wing]

flickering?

[deft stump]

You need to nerf yourself in Aurics, clearly.

[deft stump]

I think they mean like... Not being hit and moving around really fast.

[wraith sphinx]

I didn't ask but I assume they were referring to like animation cancelling and such

[wraith sphinx]

I wasn't even playing aurics lmao this was high int heresy

[deft stump]

That's even worse.

[plucky flax]

Bro got the fps flick.

[wraith sphinx]

Worse in what way

[plucky flax]

I remember there was that trans girl and her aimbot scandel around bf6 beta last year.

That story was blewing up on twitter/x

[deft stump]

You went too OP on heresy, obviously.

[wraith sphinx]

Oh yeah true. I wanted to just play a quick heresy match expecting it's gonna go smoothly

I mean it ultimately did because heresy but I was the last operative standing for a short while

[deft stump]

Oh, that is normal in heresy.

I can be stupid rusty on oggy and somehow need to clutch and pick up the other three.

[wraith sphinx]

I just wanna get carried for a change...

I'd probably play havoc to that effect if I could but I literally cannot access it

[deft stump]

WOT?

[wraith sphinx]

I'm not good enough to push past 21 with uncoordinated randoms and I can't just request to join a h40 lobby because I'll get denied

[deft stump]

I need to poke Licht to finish my custom stare emote faster... >_>

[ripe obsidian]

O.O

[wraith sphinx]

why are you staring anyways lol, I'm not bullshitting you

[deft stump]

You know most people here would kinda be okay with playing once they are done with their weeklies. Some are EU, some are US, but same thing.

I'm pretty sure.

Otherwise they wouldn't drag me along tbh.

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah ik I'm also just burned out on havoc though

a few of the havoc specific modifiers are just anti fun to me

so I'm not playing much anymore nowadays

[deft stump]

True. Current Rot is awful.

Blight is awful since it came out.

Now they add rampaging so the too tanky rot crusher can become immortal again.

[wraith sphinx]

Rotten armor was one of the few time limited event modifiers I hated so you can imagine how miffed I was when I found out they added it to havoc

[deft stump]

It was unfun during event cos they LOVED lights out with it.

And due to how Rot works, there's still crazy amounts of spawns.

Cos it's ADDITIONAL spawns ontop of normal.

[knotty saddle]

Karien more like

getting carried-en

hehehehehehehe

[zealous wing]

karien carries actually

[deft stump]

So, great, I'm blind and if EO decides to light up. Ah yeah, crusher pack, Time to enjoy 7 crushers in one direction, 10 ragers from another.

[zealous wing]

karien is the emergency clutch backup

yes you are

[deft stump]

I can only try in aurics.

[ripe obsidian]

I see a psyker running warp splitting on an inferno/bubble build

[knotty saddle]

question: why is smite allowed in the game

[ripe obsidian]

what

[deft stump]

And then fail anyway because I'm not actually good.

[deft stump]

Ask FS, I'm not working for them.

[knotty saddle]

hmm... maybe he likes to melee swap

[ripe obsidian]

melee was deimos

[plucky flax]

Real

[knotty saddle]

hmm

misclick

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos is basically a single-target weapon, ha

[deft stump]

Iss it though? I thought it can horde clear... In uprising... Just like dueling sword.

[low merlin]

Wanna know what I wanna do to trappers?

[knotty saddle]

no? 😭

[deft stump]

If it's not BLAM BLAM BLAM, I don't wanna know.

[low merlin]

⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[knotty saddle]

holy shit thats an eagle bomb

[wraith sphinx]

I've been back on playing helldivers again myself

new update is insanely good, having a blast

[jovial juniper]

Me when commando missions

[low merlin]

⬇️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️

[vernal rock]

Y'all think I can save this sword?

[wraith sphinx]

Nope lol, finesse dump is terrible

back to the gambling mines 🫵

[vernal rock]

I favorited it

I shall cherish it always

[wraith sphinx]

the emperor will punish you

[zealous wing]

no harm in keeping it in case FS let us change stats somehow

[sage pulsar]

greetings, what's goin on here this evenin?

[ripe obsidian]

I just had an H40 with... 6 total bosses?

[plucky flax]

Ez chill run

Did you have karien to carry too

[verbal thistle]

Syxorex?

[thorn cedar]

ainz

why does EP affect wall shield

pls respon

[verbal thistle]

How could it?

Idk

[thorn cedar]

for some reason if you have a stack of EP available

the stun effect on the wall goes from 75 total damage to 500

pls respon

[jovial juniper]

My two cents

Wall uses smite shenanigans

EP buffs smite

Do I have any evidence that proves that about wall? Hell no

Ask six later or something

[thorn cedar]

nah we went thru all of that

well i did anyway

it doesnt benefit from enfeeble or from warp damage boosts

it just earns like 500% bonus damage from EP because ???

[jovial juniper]

Yeah then I'm currently clueless

[sage pulsar]

is this the meta?

[jovial juniper]

Yes

[zealous wing]

stamina OP

[verbal thistle]

@spice aurora new meta

[jovial juniper]

Double Wall EP Kinetic Resonance Brain Burst mains rn

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-smile-sukuna-sukuna-smile-freaky-sukuna-gif-4852549280133734300

[thorn cedar]

NB: 500 damage is not enough to kill even one sniper

[pine wedge]

anyone want to help get monstrum or cliffhange penances?

[jovial juniper]

Roll high and you'll kill a horde

[thorn cedar]

but you can watch a mutie bonk into it repeatedly until they die so thats fun

[zealous wing]

MM we can help with in team 100

[cosmic sigil]

@verbal thistle what would you run on db shotty psyker?

[verbal thistle]

Flechette manstopper

If gaze

If not gaze then scattershot manstopper

[ripe obsidian]

Aye. Is it bugged?

[ripe obsidian]

I will check the code.

[verbal thistle]

No just that map has like only 4 boss triggers

And the 2nd lowest spawn rate out of any map

It's not a real map

That's 1 reason why I don't see it a real map for true solos

[ripe obsidian]

True Survivor run, Power Matrix Red + Blight. No bubble, no yellow toughness. Did have stumm scum to deal with blight tho

the previous run would've been TS as well, but a silent dog pounced me

the arby was sad we missed TS on the previous run, as he needed it

So we locked in.

[verbal thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1464769793394475161/39904B1.MP4?ex=6978a6ec&is=6977556c&hm=271d9cbcfec6ced6f8fa17ff5abbc5f53abe46c383f8ab90f490912c97142994&

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, it felt a bit like that

I think I could've survived the pounce, but my team wasn't able to get the dog off until I was below 1 wound

[verbal thistle]

F

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1465070522483347669/215C1D1.MP4?ex=69791640&is=6977c4c0&hm=4de1efe09578a64cd92a5cc75785aaf651f4f07d64d90401bf6988334a1915cf&

[ripe obsidian]

Then a shotgunner pewpewed me as I was standing up

[verbal thistle]

At least dogs have funny ragdolls

[ripe obsidian]

They do

I enjoy having a team that can kill bosses so I don't have to

I prefer to shoot the elites and specials and horde so my team can focus the boss

I feel glad that we were able to get TS for that Arby.

I now have only denied it to one person

[cosmic sigil]

flak maniac?

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

[spice aurora]

8 wall EP psyker gang rise up

[cosmic sigil]

that's nice

[burnt frigate]

Hmmm seems like way more work than it's worth.

[ripe obsidian]

think I found it

damage_templates.psyker_stun = {
    chain_lightning = true,

and

local is_chain_lightning = damage_profile.chain_lightning
    local chain_lightning_damage_stat_buff = (is_chain_lightning and attacker_stat_buffs.chain_lightning_damage or 1) - 1

[jovial juniper]

Everyone, pay attention

This is important

🗣️

[ripe obsidian]

tl;dr: EP just says, "if the damage is classified as chain lightning, do 300% total damage"

But it doesn't use a charge of EP because the shield isn't a blitz

[jovial juniper]

Oh so old EK interaction

But for the walls

[ripe obsidian]

Seems to be

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/why-didn't-i-think-of-that-mrboss-smiling-friends-frowning-friends-of-course-gif-14810131280811766713

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, I think EK was just copy+pasted from Smite. Is why the crit scaling is broken

And it seems like the shield has 250 base damage per tick, but really shitty ADMs

power_distribution = {
        attack = 250,
        impact = 250,
    },

armor_damage_modifier = {
        attack = {
            [armor_types.unarmored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_1,
            [armor_types.armored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_5,
            [armor_types.resistant] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_05,
            [armor_types.player] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_1,
            [armor_types.berserker] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_15,
            [armor_types.super_armor] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_01,
            [armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_1,
            [armor_types.void_shield] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_1,
        },

15% on maniacs

[radiant siren]

warp-inclinded siblings

[ripe obsidian]

That's me

[radiant siren]

I am a new psyker player and wish for general tips

[ripe obsidian]

I have a build guide in the pins. Look at the Templates in particular, as that's where I explain talents.

[radiant siren]

Also build suggestions

[radiant siren]

Hell yeah

[ripe obsidian]

50+ builds.

=)

[jovial juniper]

Well good thing it has 20 health and it's currently bugged so specials and bosses only deal 1 health damage instead of 8

[zealous wing]

@pine wedge

[spice aurora]

I did 8 wall game a few days ago on h40

Was the safest run ever

Specials didnt exist, most elites just got knocked down, very big funny 9/10

[radiant siren]

i'm gonna be a madman and try the void staff scriers gaze build

[ripe obsidian]

The fuck is 8 wall?

[ripe obsidian]

Godspeed. I don't play SG very often. I'm like 85% shriek, 10% bubble, 5% SG

[radiant siren]

I will update you on how it's going

But I love the idea of melee wizard

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, Scrier’s Gaze is very strong

I just don't enjoy it usually

[ripe obsidian]

I can't tell if this is sarcasm

[cosmic sigil]

why would it be?

they did another so he could get ts

[ripe obsidian]

Tone is hard on the internet

And some people are not very nice

[frail oar]

Wall is so fun to play with and around. Apparently it takes less damage from specialists than it is supposed to i hope it stays this way. Otherwise no more mutie train stops.

Once you learn the doorway spots it offers a lot of security.

[cosmic sigil]

when I say somethin nice, it's nice

unless you're a Tannerite

[spice aurora]

4 psykers with walls x2 so 8 walls xD

[cosmic sigil]

say the push one button to vaporize the map guy /s

[ripe obsidian]

Ahhhhhhhhh

[ripe obsidian]

What a world we live in that Bubble is arguably the weakest Psyker ability

[frail oar]

Did your game crash? Too many walls messes up my frames.

[deft stump]

Tacaxe mk4 (?) on scum is funni light spam.

[cosmic sigil]

lightaxe is mk4 ye

[spice aurora]

Nah

[zinc phoenix]

Better call wall

[crisp ether]

I've been running a bubble knight in havoc recently, I've been wondering if switching to walls would be worth it tbh

[ripe obsidian]

TIL chem toxin is buffed by burning modifiers in Mortis.

[spice aurora]

Both r good I just like walls cuz I’m deaf and blind and never see any specials

There are a few common chokes in h40 maps where its the hardest part of the whole map and it helps coincidentally a lot witn those

[frail oar]

There are some nutty burning mods will have to try!

Its so nice walling behind you and knowing no trappers dogs or mutants will get you

[verbal thistle]

Well

About that

Queue the montage of wall not working

[frail oar]

Many a trap has made it through

[verbal thistle]

I've had bursters just walk right through

[frail oar]

Thats about as hard as I rage too

[verbal thistle]

https://youtu.be/4zAiF_6BjiY?si=ArZS0yRLJEsCvYbj

[frail oar]

Sometimes it seems like an angle thing at least on traps

[verbal thistle]

I think I had 3-4 walls not working here

[deft stump]

Is vewy funni with +9 stam, all I'm saying.

[hardy citrus]

@hearty wolf home in like 45 prob

[ripe obsidian]

I am intrigued.

[plucky flax]

Would make a very good deimos.

I should find a better deimos mine has like 39% warp resist

[ripe obsidian]

why do I keep finding the good swords on my second psyker

[deft stump]

Is normal, alts get better loot all the time.

[ripe obsidian]

13% WR is about 40% peril on special

[ripe obsidian]

my best on my primary psyker is 28%

[plucky flax]

Hmm it's 32%

Not the best

It gives me 32% per special cast

[ripe obsidian]

Mine is 34% at 28% WR

[ripe obsidian]

It is rude.

[deft stump]

You saying something is ruder than you?

[ripe obsidian]

It's trying to be

[spice aurora]

@verbal thistle I’m making a compilation of walls not working

Bursters walking thru

Nets going thru

Dogs jumping at mid-height of wall and going thru

BoN vomit getting stopped, but still taking one stack of vomit debuff and losing no hp so still grabbable

[hearty wolf]

mk

[plucky flax]

Oh I was gonna say wr would be lower.

But it's not on your main psyker rip

[ripe obsidian]

Yup.

I have 3 force swords sitting at 24%, 25%, and 28% on my main psyker

nothing below 20%

But my alt psyker has a 10% FGS and now a 13% deimos

[plucky flax]

Have you tried using shared inventory mod?

[ripe obsidian]

I do not think such a thing exists

[hardy citrus]

am home now

got a lift

[hearty wolf]

Dream uploaded a new video

so gonna watch that

55m

[ripe obsidian]

Whenever I see a Psyker using PotS on Inferno, I shed a tear

Inferno LMB and RMB:
Unarmored - 200%
Flak - 175%
Unyielding - 200%
Maniac - 250%
Carapace - 25%
Infested - 150%
Void Shield - 100%

Soulblaze:
Unarmored - 150%
Flak - 150%
Unyielding - 150%
Maniac - 100%
Carapace - 10%
Infested - 125%
Void Shield - 100%

pls stop people

[radiant siren]

Gents

How do I play the Blaze Force Sword

[hardy citrus]

which

[burnt frigate]

push attacks are always weakspot hits. use your imagination.

[radiant siren]

Obscurus and Deimos

[hardy citrus]

well

you use your staff

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos is for poking

[hardy citrus]

and after you've stacked inferno you swap to the sword and spam push attacks until u stack uncanny

[verbal thistle]

Hit people in the head

[hardy citrus]

but yeah deimos is lights for horde clear and light heavy for single target

obscurus is light heavy repeat for horde and heavy light light for single target

[radiant siren]

are you the crazy man who plays melee psyker in havoc 40

[hardy citrus]

gotta learn how to aim obscurus

[plucky flax]

I keep getting 32% wr sword it's too sad.

[ripe obsidian]

deimos does not the horde clear

[plucky flax]

My finger tired from clicking.

[hardy citrus]

lots of people do this, melee psyker is not weak

[ripe obsidian]

RIP

[hardy citrus]

Ainz is the dude that solos havoc 40's tho

[radiant siren]

I was following his melee psyker build

[ripe obsidian]

98% of random Psykers in H40 are just some variation of an inferno build. Most are bad.

[deft stump]

Still crazy man though?

[radiant siren]

Teach me the ways of the sword oh wise one

🙏

[hardy citrus]

hit things, dont die

[verbal thistle]

Obscurus is literally just heavy light light

Repeat

[hardy citrus]

gotta look up for that first light tho

or it'll bodyshot

[radiant siren]

When should I use the special attack?

[burnt frigate]

Most parties decline you if you try to roll in with a trauma staff.

[radiant siren]

if ever?

[hardy citrus]

it's not super useful but it increases peril and I think it has some use cases on like, mutants and stuff?

[verbal thistle]

I only use it to gain peril or kill a passing mutant since it sticks to them

[ripe obsidian]

I think I am enough of a known quantity on the NAE server that people tend to let me into H40s regardless of my build.

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gato-shitpost-meme-kitty-gif-27138645

[hardy citrus]

yeah

[radiant siren]

roger

[ripe obsidian]

I swap between Inferno, EK, and Trauma pretty regularly.

[burnt frigate]

I... wouldn't use EK in havoc.

[ripe obsidian]

I do.

[verbal thistle]

I do.

[ripe obsidian]

I just did a True Survivor run with it earlier today

[verbal thistle]

You see it's not purg

[hardy citrus]

why do u never play like that with us

[verbal thistle]

So you are trolling

[radiant siren]

Do people just hate trauma force?

[verbal thistle]

All psykers do is eat hot chip, use purg staff, and die

[hardy citrus]

trauma is good

[ripe obsidian]

I mostly do that last thing

[ripe obsidian]

Is a team game. I had a shield + taunt oggy and shield + doggo Arby, as well as a very good scum using stimm supply to keep the team from dying to blight.

[hardy citrus]

LOL

[ripe obsidian]

So I had frontline and support

[burnt frigate]

I just feel like EK gets less useful the more targets it can chose over what you actually want to target. It'd be better if it actually did enough damage, but as it stands it plays like the Where's Waldo of pixels during high intensity play. I can't stand that crap the UI sucks enough as it is.

[hardy citrus]

ur fault for using the alt fire

and not just spamming primary fire like ur playing strike

[burnt frigate]

Horrible staff if it's just around to statstick crit for a shared primary fire.

Braindead design.

[verbal thistle]

It is also bugged

[weary crane]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[verbal thistle]

But that also doesn't invalidate right click

There is a lot of skill expression with right click

Even though they keep removing alot of it 🙁

[burnt frigate]

Just say it. The Fatshark that Tencent bought has a serious skill issue, hence all the reworks and wasted development time on reworks because it never works the first time.

[verbal thistle]

It's not even tencent being the problem

If that's what you are saying

[burnt frigate]

No, I'm saying I wouldn't take a shit designed EK staff into havoc even if I were to use it as a primary fire stat stick.

[verbal thistle]

Okay

You do you then

[burnt frigate]

<3 Dueling sword is rank 1

Will stay there until my account rank is over 9000

[hardy citrus]

that's

that's bait right

[spice aurora]

ek lmb fun tho

pew pew

[zealous wing]

busy?

[hardy citrus]

gonna play havocs with sin once he's watched a yt vid

[zealous wing]

ah ok rip

[hardy citrus]

ur welcome to hop in

[zealous wing]

helping someone with penances

[hardy citrus]

ah

[weary crane]

Holy, a psyker is my havoc 40 thinks rampage rotten is harder than rotten toll

[zealous wing]

orange rot s more fun

[weary crane]

Not being able to stagger crushers hordes is much worse than them being a bit beefier

[hardy citrus]

bro probably doesnt even go near the crushers no wonder he thinks that

[plucky flax]

You don't only host your lobby?

I like it when ppl request to join my lobby then complain about my lack of bubble.

[hardy citrus]

Lmao

agent u up for some runs when @hearty wolf gets here?

[plucky flax]

Nein it's too late I am cooked.

[hardy citrus]

shame

[plucky flax]

Also I am doing something else right meow.

[ripe obsidian]

I am too lazy

[weary crane]

should i get this fatass maul

[radiant siren]

Any tips for staying alive as this build?

I'm so used to Zealot being able to stand in hordes and be fine and that doesn't work on Psyker lmao

[verbal thistle]

know your limitations. I know that I cant melee stagger multiple ragers. So I either used my ranged options or force push 1 and kill the other. Dont get cornered, psyker has a harder time getting out of a corner then zealot

[hardy citrus]

is this melee?

dreg ragers u can often handle with assail if u have charges

but scab ragers u need to be careful with

[restive slate]

Add a bulwark in front of them

[radiant siren]

Is there a particular peril number you like to stick around? Outside of the blast immunity I mean. I keep blowing myself up.

[verbal thistle]

80% is good

[hardy citrus]

u should be able to keep scriers up with basically 100% uptime as u go up in difficulty

[verbal thistle]

60-80% if you arent comfortable

[hardy citrus]

more elites and specials means more cdr

or well, longer durations of increased cdr

[radiant siren]

Yeah, I just don't have all the skills quite yet

only level 25

[viscid matrix]

Bounce between 100 and 80 constantly

We have good defensive and offensive buffs on tree while edging, they have maximum effectiveness at 80% or higher

[hardy citrus]

@hearty wolf

[radiant siren]

Roger that

What's the critical range for Psyker?

I keep accidentally overloading, so I think I'm staying in it too long outside of Scriers

[viscid matrix]

97.3%

#psyker-class message

[hardy citrus]

pretty sure it's 97. isnt it?

[viscid matrix]

If above 97.3 you will go boom if you use a warp attack

[hardy citrus]

u will do it above 97

[radiant siren]

Gooooootcha

that makes a lot of sense

ok ok

So make sure to release warp attacks before that, that explains a lot

[viscid matrix]

There is a clip from like 2 years ago that is still relevant in that link above

[radiant siren]

Yeah, I just watched it

It caps you at 100% if you would "overcap" but as long as you don't cast above 97 you don't die

Good to knwo

good to know*

[modest perch]

its 100

[zealous wing]

depends on the cast type

[mental mulch]

My beloved says I have to hurt you now!

[radiant siren]

wdym

[verbal thistle]

Brain burst and trauma staff can kill you if you are at 97.1% or higher

While most other things need to be cast at 100% to kill you

Vanilla game peril % rounds a little bit

It's fully accurate

[modest perch]

just saw a sibling named ogryntickler

[ripe obsidian]

And that's wrong beyond just the number

[cloud folio]

it's melee greatsword and heavy lapistol

[ripe obsidian]

Using a warp attack is fine at 99.999999999% peril. Using it at 100% is death. There are a few exceptions, like channeling and releasing brain burst starting at 97.1%

[ripe obsidian]

Brain burst if you start over 97%. I'd need to test trauma

[viscid matrix]

From what I have tested it’s always around 97.3

But haven’t tested it in like 6 months

[weary crane]

My chad arby won't budge

[radiant siren]

Wait did you die from that

[zealous wing]

h40 match a couple days ago. vects clip. as up to date as you can get

[zealous wing]

yes, the h40 clutch failed because of this

[radiant siren]

So releasing it over 97 kills you?

[zealous wing]

starting it

over 97%

[radiant siren]

Starting the charge over 97

ok ok

I wasn't sure if the charge + release all counted as one cast or two

[viscid matrix]

Starting the charge

And I stand corrected on the 97.1

[ripe obsidian]

I don't think it's possibly to start a trauma RMB over 97% and not end at 100%

Releasing any staff at 100% is death afaik

[cloud folio]

how do you do this

is this melee psyker build

[zealous wing]

yup

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0bcdc7a-d0f6-4438-825d-fa4fe02e1909/berpsyker
its this build

[cloud folio]

is brain rupture any good?

i saw some builds using that

[zealous wing]

it is, on some builds, but not the ideal for melee

[cloud folio]

with kinetic flayer

you need to actively channel it right

but kinetic does it automatically

[zealous wing]

kinetic flayer is passive

yeah

but assail is used for malefic momentum

which means, +25% damage to your assail, your melee, your gun, and your warp slash

[cloud folio]

how to do warp slash

[verbal thistle]

special attack keybind

[cloud folio]

gotit

[frosty sleet]

I've played every class except Psyker, only stuck with Veteran, I've played since beta. Just made my Psyker yesterday, and I'm having an "I get it" moment

It's crazy how clutchable Psyker is, like way more than Vet.

[radiant siren]

I've found it's very useful on my melee psyker for the instances where I need to kill a sniper or clear the trapper I just saw spawn

[ripe obsidian]

I just lost an H40 to a conga line of 4 bursters as I was trying to clutch

[deft stump]

Is okay. More for when you want to play psyker without actually playing psyker.

[cloud folio]

do I need to active cast that

feels like kinetic flay already does that

[lone ravine]

you do need to actively cast the blitz, but kinetic flayer is mainly what people use brain rupture for

since free brain burst every so often

[cloud folio]

actively cast blitz like how/when,

[deft stump]

Kinetic flayer is enough. Manual BB use if for too far things or if you, for some reason, didn't run a mid-long range gun.

[lone ravine]

youd mainly use it to lock onto far off gunners / elites when your primary cant reach / doesnt have ammo

[deft stump]

Otherwise, having a laspistol or something would work.

Will also proc kf from a distance if needed.

[zealous wing]

gun, assail, fills the role

[radiant siren]

True but I like using my staff

[deft stump]

To be fair, play however you like to, best we can do is give suggestions or explain some things.

Everyone has their own playstyle. And most play worse when pushed to run outside what they are comfortable or falls under their style.

[eternal tusk]

So what's yall favorite melee weapon

[potent echo]

FGS is everything I ever hoped for and more

[arctic crag]

agreed

i just played my first damnation mission and the FGS did not fail me

[radiant siren]

How important is Collateral on the Bolt Pistol?

I just got one with Collateral as its dump stat in Brunts shop and want to know if its worth buying

[potent echo]

Yuh

[radiant siren]

I mean it's only 310 rating but

That's fixable

[ripe obsidian]

Trappers are kinda bullshit

today alone I have seen people get trapped in bubble

and I just got trapped while using BtL

despite

"count_as_dodge_vs_netgunner"

[burnt frigate]

There's still something deeply wrong with hitboxes. Netgunners can grab you through terrain, bubbles, anything because your hitbox extends out through those.

Pox bursters hit you from outside their radius.

[ripe obsidian]

It's aggravating. I don't want it to be a gamble whether or not my ability that specifically makes me immune to netters is gonna work

In this case, I saw the trapper, and made a choice to use BtL rather than dodge

But ???

[compact cargo]

Netcode

[burnt frigate]

I mean I love that excuse, because it's real.

[ripe obsidian]

Fortunately it wasn't at a point when the game was really at risk of being lost. But a bit earlier and it would've been

End event of consignment yard, two people down. If the game had screwed me then, was probably GG

[burnt frigate]

I've just started playing Ogryn and accepted being netted so often.

Magnetic attraction dogs, curving spacetime to get to your lagging ass.

[ripe obsidian]

I only really play Psyker and Arby

Oh, and a little scum

I'd like to be better at Vet, but I currently have little interest in Zealot or Oggy

[burnt frigate]

I mean I have all at 80+ and enjoy most of the classes, I'm just playing Ogryn lately.

[ripe obsidian]

I have no idea what level my classes are. Psyker is like 650-700, the rest are ???

[burnt frigate]

I just know my lowest really. Keeps me rolling when I feel indecisive.

[ripe obsidian]

Pretty sure I've cleared H40 on every class. I just can do it a lot more consistently on Psyker and Arby

[radiant siren]

Siblings, A question.

80/80/80/80/60 Inferno Staff

the 60 is cloud radius

worth?

Or should the dump stat be Warp Resistance?

[burnt frigate]

No

[ripe obsidian]

Sibling, an answer. If you don't have resources to spare, just run that staff. If you do have resources, absolutely dump warp resist.

[burnt frigate]

Warp resist optimally, but 20% doesn't matter in the end.

[radiant siren]

Oh I was more so gonna grab it for a build later

I'll grab it for now and see if I don't find a better one later if I have to switch to Bubble Burn Psyker later

[burnt frigate]

if you had like 60 burn I'd say trash it.

[radiant siren]

Oh yea it was just in Brunts shop

[burnt frigate]

Hopefully we get another event soon for resource drops.

[radiant siren]

I need image perms so I can just upload the screenshots instead of having to type it all out

[burnt frigate]

I'd like to see another competing one like the rations. That was fun.

[radiant siren]

I must SUFFER in the meantime

[verbal thistle]

you can easily type it out

[burnt frigate]

Buddha said life is suffering.

[verbal thistle]

it all comes down to the "dump" stat

the stat that is max 60%

only 2 weapons dont follow this rule

well

2.5

[ripe obsidian]

I need to play more to get more dockets to gamble on force swords

[verbal thistle]

for example. Trauma staff dump 60 warp res is what you want

just look for the 60%

[radiant siren]

oh yeah Ainz

Your build, is the Force Sword critical to it or does the Greatsword work too?

Oh

Hye

hey*

I'm red now

[burnt frigate]

Paste that screenie

[radiant siren]

Well the discussion is over but

[burnt frigate]

Woooo

[radiant siren]

That's what was in brunts shop

[verbal thistle]

probably

I dont really remember the build

[burnt frigate]

FGS is good for a lot, but FS is good for specific things depending on the mark. I prefer a good force sword with rending on push attack weakspot guarateed hits. Great sword relies on far too many talent nodes for my liking.

[fading hedge]

Oh, wait, I need permissions to post a screenshot?

[verbal thistle]

which talents does it rely on?

[verbal thistle]

yeah need red name

just keep talking

[fading hedge]

I was going to post some screens for my arbites build.

I also want some suggestions for my Psyker, but I'm not home to post the full build.

[verbal thistle]

you can check the pins for the guide

you can look around at other people's builds and some information

[radiant siren]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a01d1051-8cfe-4cca-82a3-899e77d73196/trauma-but-not-the-streamer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[burnt frigate]

I found myself requiring melee attack speed, dodge nodes, elite dmg aura, scrier's, etc. The FGS wants to be a primary weapon, so I take the FS instead.

[fading hedge]

I'll have to do that when I get home

[verbal thistle]

depends on how you use it. maybe switching gaze subnodes to the top one

[radiant siren]

gaze subnodes?

[radiant siren]

Oooh

[verbal thistle]

but this is if you use the sword alot

[burnt frigate]

Yeah the finesse is nice

[radiant siren]

I mean, the sword is already kinda my primary. Should it not be?

[verbal thistle]

then making a different build to make it do alot more can help

[radiant siren]

I've never actually seen this build played by anyone else, so I was just kinda swinging with my sword like a Zealot

[verbal thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zAiF_6BjiY

[burnt frigate]

Actually that's a neat way to think of it. Force Great Sword is primary weapon and Force Sword is a sidearm. That's kind of my take, and I prefer ranged psyker with staffs and guns.

[verbal thistle]

I think this is my only FGS video

[radiant siren]

Do you have footage of your FS build?

[verbal thistle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0297051-3f07-4cd6-aec5-b998a279c771/glass-cannon-without-the-glass this is my FGS build that I use

not the one from the video but close enough just different ability

[burnt frigate]

how'd you convince a whole team to roll stun shields?

[verbal thistle]

funny

[burnt frigate]

That's it? Pure Ogryn content.

[verbal thistle]

yeah

[fading hedge]

Does the fire the fire staff fires count as soulblaze?

[verbal thistle]

yes

it applies soulblaze

[fading hedge]

Cool

[radiant siren]

Why is Fire / Bubble Psyker meta, anyway?

Just the most damage for least effort?

[verbal thistle]

scales with density, and the highest difficulty is just enemy spam

[fading hedge]

Is it just pop the shield and charge fire staff until the horde is dead?

[viscid matrix]

Sometimes pull out the sword to deal with the tanky enemies, but yes

Primary on purga staff is good too

Both stagger enemies nearby as well

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble allows your team to ignore a lot of threats, firestick does a lot of damage

[dapper flame]

I believe you can have your heat procs inherit uncanny which makes the fire prolif really strong on armor packs

Left click on the fire staff also staggers a lot and can push poxbursters

[verbal thistle]

"your heat procs inherit uncanny"

what?

[dapper flame]

The fire can get uncanny strikes armor pen right?

[verbal thistle]

Uncanny is a global buff so it can benefit soulblaze dot and purg fire impact. But does not proc it in any scenario

uncanny is a melee weapon blessing

[dapper flame]

Right

[verbal thistle]

So yes if you hit 5 heads with your melee then swap

it does increase purg

sorry your wording concerned me

[dapper flame]

Mb lol

[fading hedge]

Ok, thats really good to know

[hollow summit]

What are the arguments for running laspistol vs bistol?

[fading hedge]

Is this why you suggest the blaze force over the force greatsword?

[hollow summit]

Ye fgs doesn't have access to uncanny

[fading hedge]

Wish it did, I really like the fgs, I very frequently lop heads off with it

[dapper flame]

I feel like the fgs doesn't need uncanny

[ripe obsidian]

You only really need uncanny for inferno in purple + rot havoc

Otherwise, it's just a nice to have

For regular rot, it can come in handy if you team comp is weak

For anything else, it's overkill

[fading hedge]

When I get home I'll take a look at my current stuff and see how I want to rebuild it, I have a force sword with 60 warp resist, but i dont remember the blessings or mark on it.

[ripe obsidian]

@plucky flax I definitely prefer the arby Mk8 shotgun over the Mk3. Mk3 leaves me feeling super vulnerable to specialists.

[plucky flax]

I only use mk8.

More snipey.

[ripe obsidian]

Aye

[fading hedge]

oh, my blaze force sword is 60 mobility

[plucky flax]

Swap it to warp resistance ideally lower than 60 whilst keeping everything else 80

[old quiver]

Trying out Melee Psyker, it's a fun time. Hectic, but I'm zooming around. Pop Scrier's Gaze and go sicko mode for a bit.

[ripe obsidian]

TIL there's a boon in Mortis called Fire and Blood that applies 5 stacks of burn and 5 stacks of bleed on a melee hit.

It is

Broken

I did 700k damage to bosses just by meleeing them with arby shield + maul

[fading hedge]

what do you mean lower than 60 but everything else at 80?

[ripe obsidian]

like this

[old quiver]

Warp Resist dump stat?

[patent jacinth]

Always

[ripe obsidian]

Not just dump. The special attack is useless, so you use it for a peril button

10% WR on a force sword is like 40% peril gained on special

It's very useful to quickly gain peril for shriek, for example

The only times you don't dump WR are on Voidstrike (dump blast radius) and LMB EK (dump charge rate)

[old quiver]

The special attack falls off in higher diffs then?

[ripe obsidian]

The special attack isn't very good at any difficulty tbh

It takes a long time, locks you to your target, and does less damage than you could do via other methods in the same amount of time

[verbal thistle]

It's the "sticky" weapon problem

[ripe obsidian]

^

Is what I meant about being locked to your target

[verbal thistle]

They are very end heavy with their damage, why do a full animation for your damage leaving you vulnerable when you can use heavy and lights

It's faster and safer

[old quiver]

It does stunlock Crushers for what that's worth.

[verbal thistle]

Push attack stun locks them

Plus you can just kill them

[hoary mauve]

^

[old quiver]

There is also the Mark that doesn't have the animation lock and just gives you a buffed swing.

[verbal thistle]

Illisii

....

Well

I guess yeah

It has a hard time keeping up in damage

It's a horde clear melee on a horde clear class

It's single target leaves too much to be desired

[old quiver]

Lack of Strikedowns does kinda struggle.

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/hamis-noita-spinning-gif-3362255229320987090

Yeah

[ripe obsidian]

Illisi wishes it could be FGS

[old quiver]

Maybe it's just the roll on the one I have (Armory and Melk won't give me one), but FGS feels kinda limp, and needing to build meter for the special feels like it breaks the flow.

[ripe obsidian]

FGS is one of the best melee weapons in the game

[verbal thistle]

Probably just built wrong or is being misued

Or just underleveled

[old quiver]

Admittedly, I am not a clever man and have no eye for buildcrafting.

[ripe obsidian]

It has very high base damage, very high damage modifiers, and a great moveset

[verbal thistle]

Infinite cleave too

With stagger

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, infinite cleave on the warp slash

[potent echo]

The melee part I think only hits one target 🤔

[ripe obsidian]

FGS is a weapon that does everything well

[verbal thistle]

Haven't tried it but I know it worked before crusher change

[potent echo]

I tried against a bunch of maulers in the psyk

[verbal thistle]

It can 1 shot every enemy non boss

[potent echo]

Only 1 of them took extra damage from the melee swing

[verbal thistle]

The melee swings don't have much cleave, yes

[potent echo]

Don't need to go for melee swing part against clumps 📝

[torpid bridge]

Could someone help with the psyker private penance?

[verbal thistle]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075 you can ask in your region if no one here is on

I am currently not on

[plucky flax]

Are you low level?

Also I still use deimos special on mutie.

Is very cool

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1299759716519641098/deimos_swag.mp4?ex=69798550&is=697833d0&hm=c1f010fc61a1cc7f981a0a4d48434b82263bf9af43edceb95b0ce887469ed371&

[verbal thistle]

Really the only advantage sticky weapons have

[ornate hamlet]

Square kill marker

[old quiver]

I pretty much only play on Heresy, good sweet spot of difficulty without being CBT for me. Also seems to be the ceiling where the Force Sword special can still one-tap most elites and specials.

[radiant mesa]

Kill one horde, use blade wave on second horde, 2 for 1 bonus

God I love fgs

I build mine full crit with gaze and run around setting everything on fire with it (as well as using fire nodes in my tree)

[plucky flax]

FGS with 1 bar is enough to kill chaffs in havoc too.

[verbal thistle]

They are using 1 hander

[radiant mesa]

There's also bolt pistol bleed spam if you're feeling like a scumbag

[plucky flax]

Make fgs have 3 bars.

3 bars to 1 shot a boss.

[plucky flax]

Nah I hate that shii

Too much micro for not worth the effort.

[odd swallow]

is force greatswors good? i hwvent tried psyker bur its gonna be my next one after ogryn

[plucky flax]

Can just farm for 1 bar and use the warp slice.

[radiant mesa]

I did it once with a full 4 man for fun and it was something

[plucky flax]

Faster to kill horde than bleed meme.

[radiant mesa]

I didn't hate it

[modest perch]

also coolest

[radiant mesa]

But like you said, too much micro

[verbal thistle]

Debatably the 1st or 2nd best weapon in the game

[odd swallow]

is it like the zealot sword bur psychic

[verbal thistle]

No

[radiant mesa]

Best melee in the game imo, but I'm heavily biased as a psyker main and a Excalibur enjoyer

[plucky flax]

It's way better than relic sword.

[old quiver]

I would crave a blessing that gives FGS extra Stength with charge level.

[verbal thistle]

Very different

[odd swallow]

ypu unlock it relatively early?

[plucky flax]

Not sure about horde clear, relic sword with power mode on can clear horde really well but the sustain single target on mk6 fgs is op

[radiant mesa]

Honestly giving it one or 2 things that scale with keeping it charged would be cool since all we really have is raw swings and 1 or 2 things for blade wave

[verbal thistle]

Power modes are different, mobility is same ish, moveset is very different, blessing pool is very different

[radiant mesa]

More playstyle availability

[plucky flax]

Fgs is sad into rot armour but relic sword is even more sad into it.

When you run out of power

[potent echo]

FGS rewards you for using it, relic blade punishes you for using it too much

[radiant mesa]

Fgs superior to relic blade simply because it doesn't have a fuck ass poke in the middle of the combo

[patent jacinth]

Just don't use mk10

[radiant mesa]

I don't enjoy having to combo cancel to avoid poking things

[patent jacinth]

Or alternatively

[potent echo]

Just do light strong

[radiant mesa]

Yeah but the other variant is nort gourd

[patent jacinth]

Use a heavy attack

[potent echo]

Combo cancels are so slow

[radiant mesa]

Heavy attacking is overrated

[potent echo]

[patent jacinth]

Mk2 is kinda better

[verbal thistle]

Don't use mk10

[patent jacinth]

Its performs pretty much the same but has much more fluid combos

And the uppercut is better than the overheads on either mark

[radiant mesa]

I don't rmr why I didn't like it ngl

[verbal thistle]

Needing to learn a moveset?

[radiant mesa]

I just remembered aggressively disliking mk2 even with the shit ass poke on mk10

[verbal thistle]

Its probably the hardest moveset to learn

[patent jacinth]

Ehh

[verbal thistle]

*the most indepth

[patent jacinth]

Its an easy moveset to learn

[verbal thistle]

Maybe ogryn pick?

[patent jacinth]

Its a hard moveset to master

[verbal thistle]

It's easy to learn but how indepth it is

Like sprint heavy is different then H1

Then all the sprint poke tech leading into different comboes

[odd swallow]

force gs has sprint poke too?

[verbal thistle]

It's not tied to sprint

[patent jacinth]

It has chain ins from sprint but not unique attacks iirc

[verbal thistle]

It's heavy 3 for mk6 and mk8 its the push attack

[radiant mesa]

I use mk8

Big fan of the block poke

And I enjoy the light combos

Very good cleave

[sage pulsar]

Morning psyker chat. What's going on this morning?

[ripe obsidian]

There is a level 2000ish Psyker on the NAE server named Hobomancer who has some really questionable builds, and does not seem to have the skill to justify them.

Every time I have played with him, it's a bad game

[fading hedge]

fgs, warp resist, or defense dump stat?

[quartz barn]

Warp res

[fading hedge]

damn, I have a defense dump stat FGS

[quartz barn]

Unlucky

[fading hedge]

well, at the time, i thought that was the prefered, so it is fully upgraded

cool, got a 60 warp resist fgs, just need to upgrade it

[crisp ether]

Explodey bistol with Flayer is so goofy

[ripe obsidian]

Elaborate

[crisp ether]

The AOE procs flayer.

[ripe obsidian]

Well, yes

[crisp ether]

I've grown to realize how funny this gets when you just shoot it at the general direction of a specialist.

With lethal prox.

[ripe obsidian]

Is part of why I love Shriek

[radiant frigate]

mk2 moveset do be taking some getting used to

[knotty saddle]

yeah but imagine the FUN hes having

2000 levels of psyker with crazy builds

[icy breach]

Can confirm; the games i played with he was the one who died the most (and ye builds are questionable); was long time ago tho
No offence to the boyo

[icy breach]

Once again; True Level don’t mean shit in terms of player skill

[knotty saddle]

fun > skill

;p

(thats why smykers die twice)

[icy breach]

Until you become a liability

[icy breach]

Bad ones only

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, so it isn't just me

[icy breach]

Also; EP does boost kinetic flayer dmg without consuming a stack btw - if you didn’t knew

Can 1 shot havoc 40 mutant

[ripe obsidian]

Aye, it also boosts flat shield's shock damage without using a stack

'Cause flat shield's damage profile is coded as chain_lightning

I imagine there's a similar check for KF. Is_smite or whatever, since BB is smite in the code

local is_smite_attack = damage_type == damage_types.smite

[fading hedge]

wow...I see why the flame staff is considered silly

nearly the entire run i had scriers gaze up and just burned everything down

[summer prairie]

Once your true level is high enough it just means you kept playing non-havoc

[verbal thistle]

Yeah, it's funny

Level never was a show of skill, but with havoc it's way less impressive

[sage pulsar]

Yea. Levels are a display of time invested (not counting alts)

[radiant frigate]

smitekiro

[deft stump]

Sounds FatShark.

[wraith sphinx]

1 GB update and no patch notes? what's going on

[deft stump]

1GB of preloaded cosmetics?

[wraith sphinx]

I will check if there's anything new in the char cosmetics view

[deft stump]

Just thinking tbh. Unless it's just spaghetti patching of hotfixes.

[wraith sphinx]

I did have to rebuild my shader cache from scratch, interesting

oh my mods got reset

[deft stump]

Maybe more than just cosmetics lul.

[hearty wolf]

Oops I was on DnD

Doesn't matter, I went to sleep early for once

[deft stump]

Patch notes out.

Gotta manually look it up.

[wraith sphinx]

is it on fatshark forums?

[deft stump]

Yeah.

[wraith sphinx]

nice thanks

bunch of bugfixes and performance improvements, nice

[deft stump]

They nerfed dodge again.

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust
"This patch comes with several technical improvements that we hope will increase stability and network performance in the game. It should also improve playing on slower and/or unstable network connections. In addition we also improved memory usage to help performance on lower-end devices."

Play again?

[deft stump]

Ah well, guess I get to suffer gunners on 300 ping once more instead of 50/50.

[hearty wolf]

Reverted an unintended change introduced in 1.10.3 that made weapon specific dodge linger time affect incoming ranged attacks.

It's so over

[verbal thistle]

It was bound to happen

They just changed it before break

[quartz barn]

Bye bye pub quality

[summer prairie]

Back to scum being made out of paper

[verbal thistle]

Now they are back

[hearty wolf]

Can't wait to die to one stalker

[deft stump]

You mean, all classes except oggy and arby and maybe zealot.

[deft stump]

From bad to worse.

[wraith sphinx]

I see no new cosmetics

[nocturne dust]

Mayhaps, but I should be sleeping currently

[wraith sphinx]

this thursday is going to be reruns

[deft stump]

So 1 gb spaghetti coded update.

[wraith sphinx]

byeah

[hearty wolf]

Later, I'm working at the moment

[thorn cedar]

rip ranged dodge linger

[deft stump]

(Honestly helped compenate for extreme lag.)

[thorn cedar]

and skissues

now ill have to put empathic evasion back on my trees

[deft stump]

There are recolours in driptide.

[hardy citrus]

No worries

[hearty wolf]

Every mission just got 10 minutes longer if you have a hallway of doom