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#psyker-class
weary crane
AOE is great but even with all the buffs it doesn't kill anything in h40 unless direct hit
modest perch
big boom is essentially mandatory for anything other than reaper sniping yet its hidden in narnia
weary crane
And you get taxed 5% reload speed
weary crane
And you can't take bullrush if you want big boom too
modest perch
u bounce one off a specials head n if it lands more than like 2 feet from them they survive
deft stump
And you can't take bullrush if you want big boom too
At least taunt is valuable.
weary crane
Imo bullrush is still great, but it requires teammates with semi decent positioning
deft stump
Yeah, but it's not a bust having to go for it.
weary crane
I want build diversity lol
modest perch
u will take taunt with go again and club n will be happy
weary crane
The h40 ogryn builds all follow the same formula
weary crane
u will take taunt with go again and club n will be happy
Only problem is rotten armour + final toll
Can't hold ground by stagger spam
modest perch
i only play ogryn in havoc out of a sense of duty at this point
plucky flax
Hmm just got a bleed burn rumble oggy in my game
He did decent not sure how much ammo he ate tho
leaden geode
I didn't used to run ovenproof's modifier for the scoreboard... once I did, dipped into powerDI for a bit too, stats showed just how little the added dots do in some cases.
weary crane
Yeah shrapnel is ass too
leaden geode
it "feels nice" cause it sometimes finishes off those handful of poxwalkers on the edge of the boom that didn't quite die from it... so I guess that's the use there...
but in terms of actual added damage... basically nothing. bit of comfort food in that you don't have to waste time bonking the trash to wrap up the horde clear, but you have a team that can also help with that, so it's mostly just bad
deft stump
burn on rumbler is a trap
Is the only use on 9 nade box of boom?
leaden geode
honestly, not even that. box of boom does nothing, damage wise, it's more of a crowd-control tool
so a bit of added flame won't make or break anything
heavy dagger
rumbler is brain dead broken
leaden geode
even 4 stacks of flame is really just poxwalker killing power
heavy dagger
just sit back and press m1 😂
plucky flax
one stack per explosion does basically nothing
39k bleed 40k burn okay maybe he didn't do so good 
leaden geode
the rumbler is strong as fuck on its base merits alone, the lil extra dots really don't change its performance much
leaden geode
39k bleed 40k burn okay maybe he didn't do so good <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906...
my point exactly. he did a mil though, so he did fine.... but the burn and bleed added fuck-all
deft stump
the rumbler is strong as fuck on its base merits alone, the lil extra dots reall...
Just funny AoE brittle because FS never fixed it?
leaden geode
pretty much
aoe brittle, big boom, adhesive good on monsters to maximize boom...
but overall, it's just the base stats that make it strong, and the fact that on a melee build, pretty much all your other ranged weapons are useless, except maybe the heaviest heavy stubber which is decent special sniping
although if you're a melee ogryn in charge of special sniping, the team comp failed you
modest perch
although if you're a melee ogryn in charge of special sniping, the team comp fai...
me every single pub
leaden geode
exactly
plucky flax
Snipe with rock 
leaden geode
I do like the grenade gauntlet more though
more ammo, less of a waste when shooting individual humies
and can also brittle on boom
plus massive chain stagger if you chain specials into a horde of bulwarks, while brittling them to 40%
deft stump
although if you're a melee ogryn in charge of special sniping, the team comp fai...
Well, is like asking me to go on special duty... it's a really bad idea.
heavy dagger
double barrel shovel krak vet is bread and butter
deft stump
More... shadeblind (dregs on sand maps is fun) 300 ping on controller with a bistol.
weary crane
All of these talents work really well with rumbler, so it's very expensive to build it
leaden geode
don't really need the ones on the left though, and pbb is trash, so most rumblegryns are just melee taunters with blo instead of heavy hitter
weary crane
But taking lucky bullet is also very detrimental to h40 builds since HH and FNP are very good
weary crane
don't really need the ones on the left though, and pbb is trash, so most rumbleg...
The 10% rending does a lot, and the extra ranged DMG is also good
leaden geode
depends on your role. you can horde clear the thickest hordes like a mofo with BLO rumbler, and still taunt and tanks as melee. you give up a bit of melee damage for thick mixed-horde clearing with the rumbler.
not really any worse really, depends on whether the team needs your help with the hordes or not.
with how OP psykers are these days, they usually don't
modest perch
lmao 5% rending
plucky flax
Man this was some fat and juicy shriek.
leaden geode
you won't notice that rending node doing anything on the rumbler.
placing the grenade 1 foot to the left will have a much bigger impact
leaden geode
carapace perk + adhesive charge, you'll be fine without it
weary crane
I think just 10% rending does +40% DMG vs carapace
leaden geode
it's fine, I can't math either
leaden geode
it increases that inner radius
big boom gives you.... ready for this?... a bigger... boom!
barren arrow
i wasn't ready for that :(
modest perch
did u go to zealot chat ?
deft stump
big boom gives you.... ready for this?... a bigger... boom!
BEEG BOOMIES!
barren arrow
no i just wasn't ready for this revelation
leaden geode
did u go to zealot chat ?
I try not to, it gets... unhealthy in there
barren arrow
Zeaot chat is a fascinating case study however
leaden geode
every discord has "that channel"... zealot chat is "that channel"
deft stump
every discord has "that channel"... zealot chat is "that channel"
Also general.
They fight over it.
leaden geode
Zeaot chat is a fascinating case study however
in why humanity has maybe gone on long enough and it's time to end this experiment?
barren arrow
somethin
modest perch
i keep forgetting genchat is a thing
leaden geode
so I wanted to run a quick auric before I head off and run some errands...
leaden geode
malestrom is dog hordes, choices of lights out, lights out, vent purge, pox gas, pox gas.... game is telling me not to play right now
radiant frigate
a whisper from the warp
barren arrow
ok but what's the worst havoc modifier
radiant frigate
all of them
leaden geode
ok but what's the worst havoc modifier
had a teammate yesterday that was a flame staff psyker that was specced into empowered psionics and assumed the role of specialist sniper with head burst instead.... when we had a plasma vet.... that's the worst modifier!
barren arrow
With corruption cleanse abilities blight spreads becomes the easiest, it might be the worst without though
Final Toll is a tragedy
barren arrow
had a teammate yesterday that was a flame staff psyker that was specced into emp...
Fascinating lmao
deft stump
had a teammate yesterday that was a flame staff psyker that was specced into emp...
Is the vet failing to snipe?
leaden geode
no... I wasn't... I'm not the most OP vet out there, but I can click on yellow things with the OP whoosh canon
barren arrow
empowered psionics = go-go-gadget chain lightning
you don't need to snipe the specialist if the room is empty
smite w/ scrier's + ep is quite silly
leaden geode
the irony is... with that combo... the vet MIGHT have trouble sniping, and thus need the head burst flame psyker to help him... if he's overrun by horde enemies....
the problem sorta creates itself with that approach.
barren arrow
but i usually don't run it because participating in damage vs armor & bosses is usually more important because it's lacking
the instant i try smiting we get hit with twins + two bosses & a captain lmao
leaden geode
the instant i try smiting we get hit with twins + two bosses & a captain lmao
that seems fair
get that tickle finger nonsense outta here
the weird thing is... smite has a bad rep because of perma-smiting... but if you actually build it as a horde clear tool, it'd be fine.
I wonder if they removed the perma-stun effect from it and upped its damage a little...
barren arrow
Smite is insanely good at horde clear with the damage from enhanced psionics
But then
so is the staff of spicy air
deft stump
But then
so is the staff of spicy air
Very spicy air.
idle plover
i suppose ill spend weekend grinding havoc
managed to get to clearance 6 so might as well keep going
plucky flax
34 more to go son
idle plover
cant wait to get bombarded by rotten armours
frail tapir
why do I see some bubble knight builds using assail? Wouldn't one of the other two be better?
plucky flax
No it's good for dd upkeep and quick stagger on some elites.
Also it's nice to conserve some ammo as well from your gun.
It also is another way to get mm stacks up.
frail tapir
I kinda like to take smite cause sometimes it feels like better support than the bubble tbh
plucky flax
radiant frigate
frail tapir
dang between using assail where I'm actually using the blitz a lot and warp ghost I really gotta be quelling a lot
I might drop warp ghost I hate having to quell every 20 seconds
ornate hamlet
Use and abuse crack of bone
frail tapir
oh wow wait how did I miss this talent
ornate hamlet
Crack of bone is like the solution to warp ghost
And also works like a charm on scrier's gaze
zealous eagle
Anybody interested in getting through Havoc 20, weekday nights?
ornate hamlet
And also helps with illisi special heavy funnies, if you're into that
frail tapir
what guns would yall recommend
frail tapir
I'm not running a staff because the staves feel too strong and I'm not a bum so I need to choose a gun, so far I've been running bolt pistol for minor horde and special clear
ornate hamlet
Bolt pistol is dope too
frail tapir
hmm revolver.......... do you use the braced or the ads one?
plucky flax
The real bubble knight build doesn't use warp ghost.
Bubble Balloon knight though is different.
radiant frigate
what is balloon knight and how does it differ
does it go to the sky
up into the spires, where it gets really pretty?
flying with masozi?
frail tapir
The real bubble knight build doesn't use warp ghost.
"real"
plucky flax
radiant frigate
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1461313120248270919/i...
tru tru
plucky flax
"real"
I dunno I copy some guy his build is probably fake too.
But it doesn't have warp ghost.
frail tapir
it's a video game it's all fake
plucky flax
Real
frail tapir
and revolver
anyways which revolver mark do you use?
I've seen some people go the route of trying to make the braced one really accurate and others just do the ads one
plucky flax
ornate hamlet
The green one is for sniping funnies, while the blue one is for funny boss damage and some sniping
gritty robin
thoughts on build i should be aiming for for non havoc runs and for havoc runs
wanting any ideas on strong talent/weapon ideas for psyker, just got the game a few days ago and im enjoying it thouroughly
radiant frigate
he suffers from a sad case of delusions
everyone is the main character until proven otherwise
we would all do well to remember that
radiant frigate
The green one is for sniping funnies, while the blue one is for funny boss damag...
it do be having some funny boss damage
true fact
frail tapir
Use and abuse crack of bone
fixed my whole build
zealous wing
thoughts on build i should be aiming for for non havoc runs and for havoc runs
for nonhavoc, basically whatever you want. blazing trauma is a good versatile weapon.
for havoc, also blazing trauma, have an inferno shriek build on hand as well, and good ol' bubbleknight
deft stump
melee psyker claims another
I mean, is a way to play psyker as not a psyker.
weary crane
This is my ranking of classes rn
1 Psyker/Hivescum
2 Arby/vet
2 Ogryn/zealot
zealous wing
wanting any ideas on strong talent/weapon ideas for psyker, just got the game a ...
an example of blazing traumas power, auric maelstrom
radiant frigate
This is my ranking of classes rn
1 Psyker/Hivescum
2 Arby/vet
2 Ogryn/zealot
ah, but what is melee psyker if not a zealot in disguise?
meditate on that, sibling
frail tapir
I mean, is a way to play psyker as not a psyker.
I like to rotate between my different flavors of melee
one can only play zealot for so long before craving something new
and that is zealot melee psyker
deft stump
one can only play zealot for so long before craving something new
Melee vet with bonus BOOMS.
radiant frigate
Melee vet with bonus BOOMS.
speaking of, how's the power falchion?
weary crane
Zealot and ogryn both feel weak in h40
weary crane
speaking of, how's the power falchion?
Apparently it's ass
frail tapir
my hivescum build? Zealot with poison. My veteran build? zealot with occasional gun. My psyker build? zealot with moonlight greatsword
radiant frigate
Apparently it's ass
weary crane
Honestly if they added a stun immunity talent to vet it would be better on melee than zealot
Because of psword
frail tapir
my hands be hurting I'm playing too much darktide and clicking too much
also my last game crashed rip
darktide is a perfectly working game
radiant frigate
Because of psword
but what about big psword
weary crane
Psword is much better than relic blade
thick delta
my hivescum build? Zealot with poison. My veteran build? zealot with occasional ...
LOL @ MLGS
radiant frigate
MLGS my beloved
austere warren
my hands be hurting I'm playing too much darktide and clicking too much
Unironically, mind your health. Warm-ups help, cooldowns too.
weary crane
Psword is much better than relic blade
It has awful mobility though, that's why it needs stun immunity
frail tapir
Unironically, mind your health. Warm-ups help, cooldowns too.
yeah I prob should
radiant frigate
fgs with force sword blessing pool would be
well
it would definitely be something
weary crane
Yeah I wish
radiant frigate
imagine slaughterer on fgs
radiant frigate
slaughterer uncanny bleed fgs
weary crane
Deflector, unstable power, superiority, uncanny, slaughterer, riposte, precog
All S tier blessings
radiant frigate
bleeds crushers from range
although i think fgs has little need for uncanny
superiority slaughterer sounds spicy
hardy citrus
i feel like you'd still want unstable
radiant frigate
probably yeah
but slaughterer is hard to pass on
superiority is easier to skip
weary crane
If you're using staff build then unstable is better, if you're using melee focused then slaughterer/superiority is better
ripe obsidian
well that looks unfun
But have you considered adding more pox gas?
austere warren
yeah I prob should
Mildly silly to most from the title but this guy is a legit doctor. Ortho with valid licensure and all that.
Additional proof of licensure in good faith: https://npiprofile.com/npi/1184763435
Highly recommend that if something like this is a hobby for you that you do regularly that you take those little steps towards maintaining health. Fine to have fun and all that. But you have more fun when your body is actually able to keep being around to do the things, right? Worth it imo.
radiant frigate
respectable choice
cold ivy
also if you're on PC there are qol methods to let you click less
e.g. fullauto if you're using laspistol/inf las so you don't have to click once for each shot
ornate hamlet
I shall take it into account when my fingies start going owie oof oof
austere warren
e.g. fullauto if you're using laspistol/inf las so you don't have to click once ...
This one too.
ornate hamlet
Blue recon but I made it semi-auto
weary crane
Does cruel fortune only apply to marked targets?
austere warren
And for the love of fuck all, take breaks. Sounds lame maybe but you gotta take a break from the game. Don't matter how young or old you are, flesh is flesh.
cold ivy
for fast melee weapons you can use something like skiitarius (?) or keepswinging, or for a more manual method i have an autohotkey script that lets me light attack on scroll down as well as left click, so i can just scroll my mouse wheel and spam lights that way
buoyant maple
superiority is easier to skip
Nah superiority is better than slaughterer for its use cases
deft stump
speaking of, how's the power falchion?
Meh at best.
strong sage
Newer to psyker, this good enough for BFG build going into havoc?
zealous wing
Newer to psyker, this good enough for BFG build going into havoc?
switch wrath to unstable power, and switch maniac to unyielding
i'd also upgrade the dmg to 80 but it'll function fine
strong sage
don't I want to keep WARP resist under 31%? i read that somewhere
prime elk
low warp res can be good on some builds
zealous wing
oh also mk 6 is better, but, it is technically preference
the stab on mk 6 is just far easier to access
zealous wing
low warp res can be good on some builds
most, but yeah
strong sage
yeah i like the sweeps on mk 8. Learned the push stab combo
zealous wing
warp res being low is more a side treat than a main thing
strong sage
is the last 5% in damage worth trying for a better roll?
zealous wing
for havoc you want all the damage you can get usually
prime elk
get the damage to 80 and stop
zealous wing
strong sage
So there can be a perfect roll, ok ill use it for now till i can score a better one
thanks, is 5% strenth that strong?
zealous wing
all it does is make it so two sword activations brings you to 100% peril
also, unstable stacks 4x
its 20% strength
at 80 peril +
strong sage
ooook they should prob fix that
strong sage
all it does is make it so two sword activations brings you to 100% peril
ok so maybe you can explain this to me. Im using a scier's gaze build right. Don't i want to keep peril low? But all the BFG builds mention getting to 100% peril how come?
zealous wing
because peril make damage go brr
and, warp splitting
+20% damage from warp rider at 80 peril, cleave going up with peril, +20% strength from unstable power, then you get buffs from scriers and DD, and malefic momentum
so, no, you dont want low peril
staying in scriers is relatively pointless
strong sage
ok so use sciers more like a burst damage skill rather than something to try and maintain?
zealous wing
ye
its a free ride to high peril, and to free 11.5s of casting, for assail, warp slash, whatever else
it also comes back really quick
frail oar
ok so use sciers more like a burst damage skill rather than something to try and...
You can keep it up for a very long time with the warp reduction on melee talent in the middle of the tree forget the name.
zealous wing
no need
the talent points are better spent elsewhere
a lot of people think By Crack of Bone is good for scriers, but it works against you more than helps
frail oar
Providing options not perfect refinement
zealous wing
horde spawns
activate scriers
use bcob, kill horde
sudden trapper
assail
peril hits 100
scriers ends
still more horde to kill
bcob quells you down
you lose cleave
you lose damage
you lose strength
boss spawns
scriers still on cooldown
spice aurora
Unstable power and those blessings are especially stronk bc its basically a 1.2x to all damage with unstable cranked up
frail tapir
https://youtu.be/EiRC80FJbHU
Mildly silly to most from the title but this guy i...
Youtube’s atrocious auto dub feature is dubbing it into Spanish with no ability to change it. I don’t speak Spanish.
Truly we live in a society
zealous wing
time to learn spanish i guess
latent lion
I know this sounds a little stupid, but does ranged damage bonuses affect brain rupture? I'm wondering if I should get rid of a talent or not, since I'm running a primarily melee psyker.
frail oar
Check kulis guide on steam it details talent/skill interactions
latent lion
Alright, I'll go check it out, thanks.
austere warren
Youtube’s atrocious auto dub feature is dubbing it into Spanish with no ability ...
Huh. Uh. Idk what to do with that there but you can find tons of exercises for hands and the like online. Ideally, search for people whose credentials are valid. Not because only they can be correct, but that it can be much more insightful to actually engage with things from people who actually do have that real expertise.
Can also just cross-reference things.
wind spruce
+20% damage from warp rider at 80 peril, cleave going up with peril, +20% streng...
warp rider doesn't scale at 20% peril increments like warp nexus does
ripe obsidian
<@230796342165897226> NERD!
Warp Rider is a smooth scale from 0 to 100, I believe
prime elk
pretty sure the crusher was aiming for the ogryn
ah yes the mutie spitroast
it wasn't that, but just as lethal
ripe obsidian
it's prob karma for playing psyker
It's honestly super weird not to see that room absolutely packed with rotten crushers
buoyant maple
I know this sounds a little stupid, but does ranged damage bonuses affect brain ...
It should
ripe obsidian
I know this sounds a little stupid, but does ranged damage bonuses affect brain ...
Damage: base damage 900; always targets weakspots; cannot crit; ignores Bulwark shield; damage is increased by 'rending' / 'brittleness', Skullcrusher blessing (while staggered), by Combat Stimm, and buffs from Empowered Psionics, Empyric Shock, Disrupt Destiny, Malefic Momentum, Perfect Timing, Scrier's Gaze (including Precognition), Vulnerable Minds (against ogryns and monsters), Warp Rider, Warp Rupture, Warp Siphon, aura Kinetic Presence (against elites), and the small ranged damage node
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505
ornate hamlet
I found it interesting that, even if you're with the mutant, the crusher aims the attack somewhere else
Does this mean that if there was a bomber grenade there you'd also take damage in that place?
zealous wing
roll the clip of you getting shredded by gunners while grabbed by a mutie while i watched
also ok but those names are so good tho
especially rumbledore
ripe obsidian
roll the clip of you getting shredded by gunners while grabbed by a mutie while ...
I don't remember this, but similar things have happened enough that I believe you
prime elk
I found it interesting that, even if you're with the mutant, the crusher aims th...
i thinkit was aiming for the ogryn but something was weird idk
ripe obsidian
Turned into Swiss cheese
zealous wing
i love that for most people, that was only a few months ago
but for me its like, a year
cant remember shit 
lil baby psyker hexis
to be fair i do have the playtime to line up with it being a year ago, in comparison to most people
pale prairie
ah it was krieger
pale prairie
It was a clip of Sut playing with you that I stole cause it’s funny
zealous wing
AHhhhh
see, cant remember shit
does explain why i thought it was six at first
the S
and i play with six more than sut
ornate hamlet
Play auric, it's an honest life
summer prairie
Cranial was replaced with rampaging, it's just that people still had old cranial maps
plucky flax
I love rot orange
I love doing no damage
But tbh is quite easy cos they get cc
Just sometimes team with low damage can take long to clear map
ornate hamlet
Do we have some God tier psyker builds (it's been like 2/3 years since I played psyker)
ornate hamlet
Thank youuuu
zealous wing
if you have further questions, i'll answer what i can
ornate hamlet
Bet thank you bro
Ik the sorta build I'm going for it's just a case of levelling up lol
elder pasture
Who are the good YouTubers for psyker guides?
austere warren
Who are the good YouTubers for psyker guides?
Can't remember if there's YT links in there but this can be a solid source with added explanations.
viscid fox
what psyker build should i do?
obsidian nimbus
Is it bad I really hate all the staffs for psyker
patent jacinth
No
verbal thistle
No
elder pasture
Can't remember if there's YT links in there but this can be a solid source with ...
Thank you! I’ll save this for when my friends get more in depth but I’m primarily looking for YouTube guides that are good, but also digestible
verbal thistle
what psyker build should i do?
Check pins, the guide has a lot of builds and some for leveling if you need
obsidian nimbus
I really wanna just go gun psyker
verbal thistle
Okay
patent jacinth
Thank you! I’ll save this for when my friends get more in depth but I’m primaril...
Those kinda don't exist for darktide
Very niche game and the people who make content either just do gameplay or try to make informative stuff but end up with it being questionable at best
Most of the resources for this game are in text
zealous wing
Thank you! I’ll save this for when my friends get more in depth but I’m primaril...
while its as said above by CDGC, theres not any real reliable youtube source, you can always ask here and demonstration clips aren't super hard to put together
obsidian nimbus
gun psyker is very strong
I thought it would be ass
zealous wing
I thought it would be ass
well, in the end it IS a melee psyker with a better gun, so
verbal thistle
I thought it would be ass
Everything with psyker is very strong/the strongest
patent jacinth
Gun psyker is just melee psyker that takes tranquility through slaughter
zealous wing
lol
viscid fox
so if im doing smite psyker I should use dueling sword?
patent jacinth
so if im doing smite psyker I should use dueling sword?
You shouldn't do smite psyker at all
verbal thistle
so if im doing smite psyker I should use dueling sword?
Go whatever you find fun. Smite doesn't dictate what you need to bring. It's just a reposition tool
viscid fox
wgy
zealous wing
so if im doing smite psyker I should use dueling sword?
unless you wanna cosplay a shockmine, i'd take a weapon meant for smacking things like the FGS,
dull scroll
so if im doing smite psyker I should use dueling sword?
get the knife so you can avoid suddenly exploding barrels 😏
viscid fox
You shouldn't do smite psyker at all
why?
patent jacinth
Its not nearly as useful as it seems, and can make things worse, somehow
zealous wing
because it will teach you nothing helpful, and its a very unhelpful tool for the team 99% of the time
ornate hamlet
get the knife so you can avoid suddenly exploding barrels 😏
Feeble cursed one, I'm using Full Auto and always fire twice if I press the mouse button for longer than a hundredth of a second
wooden sand
You shouldn't do smite psyker at all
Bugger, the smite hater
patent jacinth
You will do largely the same thing spamming a trauma staff
viscid fox
this guide says i should bring dueling sword or shock staff for high single target dmg
patent jacinth
And also do damage
verbal thistle
this guide says i should bring dueling sword or shock staff for high single targ...
Go for it
zealous wing
the number of times i have been locked into a bad position because the smyker decided to smite the horde behind me, or the crushers, then suddenly, releases everything, its just... headache
verbal thistle
viscid fox
the number of times i have been locked into a bad position because the smyker de...
ive always found it useful yo be on my team
zealous wing
and with how unreliable smite is from an outside perspective, its just blargh
zealous wing
ive always found it useful yo be on my team
ornate hamlet
The one time the smite player does, in fact, not want the players to hit the stunned targets
zealous wing
i went out of my way to try all the ways to use smite, from the permastun builds to the meleeker builds, and its just
its so bad
ornate hamlet
Bland, boring, static, uneventful?
zealous wing
and the entire time i tried it, i thought of how much better assail would have done the job, or my melee, or my ranged
viscid fox
are assail and brain burst even good?
zealous wing
yes
verbal thistle
Yes, why wouldn't they be?
viscid fox
just back when I played Brain burst was literally useless and assail was only alright so didnt know how much thay changes
ornate hamlet
Assail staggers ragers and does funny area damage
zealous wing
kinetic flayer has never been useless, and assail i dont think has ever been "just alright" ?
verbal thistle
I don't think Brian burst was ever useless. I don't have info before patch 13
But you might've been using it wrong
Or we're just underleveled
viscid fox
this was like 2 years ago before all the reworks
zealous wing
assail is the only blitz of the three that can also be a main weapon
so, while leveling to 30 thats why we suggest it
verbal thistle
Since being undergeard and leveled isn't accurate for how things perform for both tide games
verbal thistle
Smite is probably the worst blitz to level
No damage and hurts the learning experience
zealous wing
people might use smite the whole time but it is 100% NOT a weapon
viscid fox
I have a level 30 psyker just need get the wepons for it basically
ornate hamlet
Brain burst has the slight issues of being ass as a base due to the charge time, which scales very poorly with higher mob density and needs certain workarounds
modest perch
lol i found a full on smyker in the wild the other day. kinda surreal experience. i was tempted to recreate the barreling
ornate hamlet
Assail you can just put like 2 points on it and go to town
Though I'm glad kinetic flayer was mostly improved
viscid fox
so you guys are saying I shouldn't use smite
zealous wing
also assail is hella useful for free 25% damage to both itself and your melee
ornate hamlet
And it's always funny to double wall for the lightning fast brain popping
zealous wing
so you guys are saying I shouldn't use smite
you CAN use it but dont expect to learn much at all while using it
viscid fox
also assail is hella useful for free 25% damage to both itself and your melee
didnt know force sword could do dat
ornate hamlet
so you guys are saying I shouldn't use smite
You shouldn't overuse smite
verbal thistle
so you guys are saying I shouldn't use smite
Use what you want. Have fun. But downplaying other blitz might narrow your focus on learning. And if you are wanting to improve in the game smite will hurt you as it gives you bad habits
It's video game 
viscid fox
Use what you want. Have fun. But downplaying other blitz might narrow your focus...
I wasnt downplaying them just didnt know how much better they have become
if i was to use smite what would be the good use cases of it?
verbal thistle
2 things
ornate hamlet
Oftentimes when people are spamming smite on enemies and thinking they're super helping the team, they're actually just halting the game so that people do a slow cleanup that wasn't really necessary
zealous wing
revive covering, task covering
verbal thistle
Cornered with armor or to cover an interaction (revive/objective)
ornate hamlet
It's super useful for when you know shit will hit the fan and people are gonna come out seriously hurt or go down
viscid fox
I will give it a try since I have the stuff for the smite build and dont have the stuff for the other builds
verbal thistle
Have fun and good luck
zealous wing
Oftentimes when people are spamming smite on enemies and thinking they're super ...
they're also turning off all the damage perks people will get on dodge, but also throwing off the timing of peoples attacks/ flow of the horde, which can suddenly stop any "on chained hit" damage boosts as well, and the 10% enfeeble does NOTTTT make up for it not even close
ornate hamlet
Armor pack with zero room to maneuver? Time to halt the game
viscid fox
so basically never use it for dmg just to cc the hoard if we are in a really bad situation?
zealous wing
smite isnt damage, so, yeah
ornate hamlet
Absolute unit of an armor column with crushers, ragers and bulwarks? Time to halt the game
Anytime you think "yo, this is gonna be absolutely goddamn awful", you zap
verbal thistle
so basically never use it for dmg just to cc the hoard if we are in a really bad...
It's not an efficient damage tool (assail/weapons does that role so much better)
ornate hamlet
Hell, you can even use it as a quick knockdown by doing the RMB tap
zealous wing
but also be considerate of the difficulty you're playing. a lot of armour to one person is different that a lot to someone else
ornate hamlet
It also swaps super fast, so you can swap and immediately zap something with LMB
ornate hamlet
Yeah, like rabbit family stuff
The point where it stops being fun and becomes desperation
The point where you say "but I wanna keep playing on this map"
zealous wing
also learn positioning soon as possible
ornate hamlet
Become a parkour god
zealous wing
the number of smykers ive heard tell me they know how to dodge, they know how to position, then go off and die who knows where 15 times ....
ornate hamlet
Waist-high geometry is a path to wicked powers
Oh yeah, today I was doing that new tank mission and we were at the small drop after Dragor blows up the first wall
The one with a door near a chest
It was raining hellfire and I got caught between two fire fields, and then I looked at this barrel with some crates and immediately played my outstanding move
zealous wing
movetech
zealous wing
meanwhile, the humble reconlas psyker:
ornate hamlet
Honestly surprised none of the quadrillion ranged enemies shot me on top of those crates
Desperately pushing the horde while going "please don't shoot me please don't shoot me"
zealous wing
i need to get a better ee clip, i just never think to clip a "that was 10 reapers, that was risky"
also because that sword slam makes me think of this sword slam
ornate hamlet
I think I don't have access to my EE clip anymore, but I was listening to some wacky version of Flashdance
ornate hamlet
also because that sword slam makes me think of this sword slam
Assassino Euclides
EE reminds me of doing missions in GTA Online
It didn't matter how accurate I was, only that I hit the enemy somewhere
GTA had some unbelievably deadly AI and abusing the ragdoll system was pretty much the way to go
Fire first and magdump
viscid fox
man after playing zealot for the last week all the other characters feel so easy to kill
ornate hamlet
Petition to revert psyker to the first version of the current talent tree
Put the fear of God in the youngsters
candid temple
man after playing zealot for the last week all the other characters feel so easy...
try arb
ornate hamlet
Give psyker the crusher
.5s stamina delay, finesse keystone, scrier's gaze
I can't possibly see it backfiring
candid temple
who would use it?
patent jacinth
Me
candid temple
pay 
viscid fox
but im fine with current characters
plucky flax
Mfw no balloon
wraith sphinx
Put the fear of God in the youngsters
sure sign me up
viscid fox
what are the use cases for assail?
deft stump
what are the use cases for assail?
Throw at shotgunners, gunners, (dreg) ragers, trappers (use 3-4 to be sure)...
patent jacinth
Ranged trash, trash horde/small elite packs, and specials
deft stump
Well, just throw at anything without cara.
It'll kill some of them for MM and get your peril up.
viscid fox
so for my wepons I want things that are good at killing cara?
deft stump
so for my wepons I want things that are good at killing cara?
Melee, yes.
viscid fox
is like a fully melee psyker good? it looks fun
candid temple
what are the use cases for assail?
you want to save a point compared to BB.
deft stump
is like a fully melee psyker good? it looks fun
I mean, you FGS, you always have range.
wraith sphinx
is like a fully melee psyker good? it looks fun
Yeah, it's fantastic and very strong
viscid fox
melee psyker feels pretty awsome
rose frost
grey knights dream
alpine nova
meleeker is goated
zealous wing
is like a fully melee psyker good? it looks fun
old clip, could spar them better, but, i present, melee
melee
melee
viscid fox
old clip, could spar them better, but, i present, melee
ya i made the build earlier and now im in love its just zealot but a glass cannon its great
plucky flax
Better than zealot.
idle plover
man if that was before crusher hp increase you could legit onetap on crits
viscid fox
Better than zealot.
depends what u would rather have because zealots just so hard to kill but psyker does way more dmg
plucky flax
Oh it was more playing as one.
I tried a zealot evis game earlier and I kept thinking how I wished I was on melee psyker.
zealous wing
current PB big stab is 14k dmg
idle plover
and blessings
zealous wing
psyker has no hope of ever beating zealots highest hit dmg potential but its still fun to try reaching for those stars
hollow summit
eh, dont care
deft stump
psyker has no hope of ever beating zealots highest hit dmg potential but its sti...
It's like Eula all over, hard set up for massive boom but usually not worth the trade off for just hitting high constantly.
zealous wing
the 14k dmg from FGS stab just happens in a normal game, tbf
stab captain in face, win
as for zealots, its very consistent
if youre good
deft stump
I just make my GF do it to entertain me.
deft stump
as for zealots, its very consistent
And not hitting air half the time.
Went back to EU pubs on stealth zealot. Headstabs count as body.
So gave up and just used ult to rescue and pick ppl up.
zealous wing
all of the above (except i use a bistol)
wraith sphinx
me using stealth to reload flamer in peace
Extremely valid
wraith sphinx
I tend to do the same to reload plasma gun
zealous wing
ill use SF for res, boss delete, objectives, whatever is needed
deft stump
all of the above (except i use a bistol)
I mean, I pub with bistol.
Who knows if I somehow need to do the job of the specialist hunter as the last LAST resort.
zealous wing
in havocs thats my main job
keep specials off dom
specials, bosses
granted keeping specials off dom is ALWAYS my job
but alas
deft stump
I'm literally the worst person for it but, sometimes, just have to.
weary crane
My arby will be good on that
Who wants max thunderous and skullcrusher stacks on all the crushers 
weary crane
I'll be on in 15 mins
weary crane
Rot orange consignment yard
Are you playing psyker or another class
stone canyon
Been struggling Havocs on my hivescum with randoms, until met first competent bubble psyker, suddenly it was smooth sailing without any fails for 2 hours
Think i should dust off my almost 2 year old psyker and do the bubble+inferno too with it, so im not relying on others for it
zealous wing
well
was the bubble used more to cover from gunfire, or was it to guide you to where to move to next? because the latter is more common
weary crane
Scum is very easy to clutch and solo
zealous wing
whats easy for one may not be easy for another
plucky flax
Are you playing psyker or another class
Hmm not sure we can go 2 scums 1 arby
weary crane
Well if you're not a good player then no class is easy to clutch with lol
plucky flax
For meme
zealous wing
if you already know how the pathing works, you can clutch on any class with any weapons
weary crane
2 scums doesn't work imo
plucky flax
Yeah no cleave
But I was thinking bubble knight on a red and blight
Cos I don't wanna abuse purg too much
We have a toxin scum for cleanse.
plucky flax
2 scums doesn't work imo
Get online son
weary crane
Yesir
frail oar
Map knowledge is an understated aspect of clutching. Gotta know your drops n loops.
And dem slotz
zealous wing
this is also true
if you dont know the map well, you dont know where you can kite
or, more aptly, where to not kite
frail oar
or, more aptly, where to not kite
I've dodged myself into a corner too many times
plucky flax
I ledge myself cos scummer dodge is too powerful
weary crane
Also I've found with scum, even if I'm fully blocked in by bodies, if I keep spamming dodge to the side I manage to slip though
stone canyon
was the bubble used more to cover from gunfire, or was it to guide you to where ...
Both i suppose
stone canyon
Map knowledge is an understated aspect of clutching. Gotta know your drops n lo...
When the psyker went down, i was in this one map i haven played 1-2 times in past 1½ year that is a maze and was just honestly lost
So all i could do was beeline towards revive spot
Ive been only playing week aurics so what is easy for some oldtimer is quite different for me
deft stump
I've dodged myself into a corner too many times
You mean, dodge into a 1cm high stone and then blep.
frail oar
I ledge myself cos scummer dodge is too powerful
I do this all the time on stairs I fuck the angle up
frail oar
You mean, dodge into a 1cm high stone and then blep.
*Logistratum intensifies
Fuck that hallway
deft stump
*Logistratum intensifies
No man's land. I got caught on a stone trying to dodge/slide/run through the shelled area.
frail oar
Its always dodging up the hill that seems to get me
mighty shuttle
or, more aptly, where to not kite
It’s so soul crushing to watch occasional mechanically skilled player in maelstorm or havoc panic and go into a corner to try to hold out
“No! Play it like goddamn COD zombies, keep kiting and moving around to slow them down! Stop trying to put yourself in narrow alleyway dead ends because you think choke will help.”
deft stump
Its always dodging up the hill that seems to get me
The shelled areas are a death pit.
mighty shuttle
It’s a weird intuition to develop between “wanting choke points to funnel enemies while very explicitly wanting open spaces or points of escape so you don’t get trapped by swarm of carapace”
austere warren
Meh. It can work but often it's better to move.
frail oar
Im usually looking for a doorway that has somewhere to back into. Basically if the room has one way in don't go in there.
deft stump
Is why no man's land is such a shitty map.
It's either too open with little cover or basically a 2 way street.
By that I mean, enemies front and/or back.
And no place to run around.
mighty shuttle
Honestly I have not had tons of issue with it, it’s mostly the last crater stretch that’s really rough
Because there’s still corners and buildings to break up LOS
It’s definitely very significantly open though compared to prior map
weary idol
Is why no man's land is such a shitty map.
I kind of respect it tho
mighty shuttle
But still feels way, way better than the fucking clandestine gloriana power room
weary idol
what I do not respect is fuckinb tox bombers on that map
dull scroll
that's what WWI soldiers said 😏
weary idol
because you can REALLY see how overtuned their range/radius is
mighty shuttle
Holy shit do I hate that segment design with all of my heart
deft stump
I kind of respect it tho
I get it.
deft stump
what I do not respect is fuckinb tox bombers on that map
Good luck when the tight path is choking.
weary idol
big ass open area and 2 tox bombers cover half the fucking no man's land
actually insane that that enemy has caught zero nerfs
mighty shuttle
Wide ass space with tons of power stuff that’s high enough to break up your ability to run but is low enough that every shooter in the segment can hit you
deft stump
I hope you brought rebreather.
mighty shuttle
You functionally have zero cover in that room unless you go to the high ground or that narrow pocket behind the power button platform
mighty shuttle
I still maintain that tox bombers could benefit from having glowing elements on their design and make them visible in the tox gas
Reward people willing to focus them out
weary idol
tox bombers honest to god such an oppressive enemy type that I don't think a hard spawn cap of 1 would be unwarranted
weary idol
I still maintain that tox bombers could benefit from having glowing elements on ...
fun fact about that
their grenades do glow green
it just blends into their piss yellow robes
because they have one of the most indistinct visual profiles of any goddamn enemy in the fucking game
mighty shuttle
Because unlike normal glowing bomber, it does not hinder los as extreme of a fashion.
weary idol
they just look like a normal ass dreg stalker
mighty shuttle
Yeah I wrote about it before
The design being changed would do a lot to help the enemy type feel more reasonable to fight against
Because as is, it’s like “if you fuck up and fail to find the bomber before he tosses first gas
Now he’s benefiting significantly from LOS to keep spamming it more and more
Or other bombers that spawns in
They compound on their strengths too much, so having them being easy to detect in middle of the gas would help some of that
weary idol
Because as is, it’s like “if you fuck up and fail to find the bomber before he t...
yeah fun fact about that
I actually downloaded spidey senses mod specifically because of tox bomber audio issues
turns out no actually their audio works fine most of the time
They just throw a bomb the same frame they spawn because of how comical their range is
mighty shuttle
I have that mod too but I only use it for disablers
So I don’t oversaturate my UI with information and just end up missing obvious stuff
weary idol
They are also one of two enemies that I see the good ol' "audio from 2 rooms away sometimes doesn't play" issue with
Snipers do it very infrequently
Tox Bombers do it all the goddamn time
So you can have a scenario where a tox bomber spawns 2 rooms away
mighty shuttle
Kinda wish their gas dissipates if they throw a second one
weary idol
instantly throws a bomb because you're within 50 meters
and there's zero audio warning at all until the grenade detnates
the bomb doesn't even play the hissing sound as it goes through the air
it's just dead silent and then FWOOM
gas attack
mighty shuttle
They’re also lot more oppressive in havoc when your toughness regen is lot more compromised
In maelstorms I just kinda regen toughness fast enough I can kinda kite out and it’s more of annoyance than direct danger like fire
But havoc oh boy is it lot deadlier especially if it’s difficult to leave the radius
frail oar
Tox bombers need to shoot more like shaq and less like kobe
And the explosion interacting my auspex is gonna break my keyboard
frail oar
Yuh
zealous wing
It’s so soul crushing to watch occasional mechanically skilled player in maelsto...
very rarely does being cornered end up being survivable
you have to have the perfect tool for the job in such a case
mighty shuttle
very rarely does being cornered end up being survivable
Yup exactly the point
zealous wing
that perfect tool is blazing trauma 
mighty shuttle
It gives me same energy as a new player to COD zombies staying in a corner trying to survive as long as possible
Even so if a fire gets tossed in your area you’re kinda cooked
You’re not pushing past what is presumably dozens of elites unless you have break line/shout/other cc knockdown
zealous wing
bursters also a lil nasty in such a case
if its a trapper and bulwarks, good luck
but also sometimes, pure luck is required
mighty shuttle
Yup or if you have stealth to dump aggro but if you’re last one
gray moss
god i've been doing alot of maelstroms, and i get that, hence why i find the most open area or a good choke point and start flaming
mighty shuttle
They tend to freeze in place
quartz sky
getting back into the game, haven't been playing since before the skill tree reworks. What psyker build should I play?
mighty shuttle
Nice clip
zealous wing
a gunker is a good "get back in the flow" kind of build
if you were using a specific build/staff, a recreation also a good idea
quartz sky
I'm level 23, for context
gray moss
just build whatever then, come back when you have 30
zealous wing
ah, i'd suggest my build in the new psyker section of the build guide then
put points in as far as you can, as you unlock them, in pathing order
quartz sky
ah, i'd suggest my build in the new psyker section of the build guide then
is it pinned, or in a thread or something?
zealous wing
the guide is pinned
quartz sky
it's the google docs? psyker build bonanza?
zealous wing
yup
quartz sky
or the one on steam?
zealous wing
bonanza
ah i still havent finished the description on it... ill do that... sometime xD
zealous wing
gunker/meleeker is very real
quartz sky
ok so I don't have the listed equipment yet, like, I have a Trascendent Blaze Force Sword with Riposte and Deflector, and a Shredder Autopistol
because I think these were the meta at the time or something
formal dew
quartz sky
can I use them until I get the deimos force sword and the bolt pistol?
mental rock
If you already have a force sword you can change marks now
quartz sky
I have zero other equipment
I think I like recycled everything except these two at the time
or sold them, I don't remember what you do with equipment in this game
mental rock
Inventory>click the item>marks
zealous wing
what force sword do you hae currently?
zealous wing
deimos, obscurus, or illisi
those are the marks of the force swords, because they're all blaze force swords but all very very different
quartz sky
can I check while ina mission_
zealous wing
not really, but you can send me a screenshot of your screen
mental rock
Does it have the cleave special or the latching special
quartz sky
quartz sky
what was the key to do the brain explosion thing_
zealous wing
yeah you have assail, so no more brain popping
mental rock
Yes that is assail
quartz sky
I went witht he masteries specified in the guide
viscid cloak
please tell me you atleast READ what the keystones and masteries do
quartz sky
skimmed
quartz sky
read is lava
zealous wing
well, i suggest not aiming for deimos, since you for sure can already access deimos, try to get your hands on a greatsword
you have illisi, which is the latest mark of force sword, deimos is one you can just swap it to for free
quartz sky
ah I said Deimos because the guide was mentioning deimos
regarding assail... what should I use it for? Specials? Elites? Bosses?
zealous wing
my build doesnt mention deimos, kariens might
acoustic jacinth
Probably going to feel safer on deimos but obscurus results in better damage
zealous wing
assail is for horde clear assist but mainly to proc malefic momentum, but also specials and elites, yes
not bosses
thats what the FGS would be for, or a gun
acoustic jacinth
Melee ze bosses
zealous wing
i dont actually know kariens build well, i just know karien herself says its just random stuff to get you through the leveling process, and is not a polished build for longterm use
quartz sky
oh ok I would have guessed melee was mostly hordees, guns for things like ranged specials, assail for toughter stuff
zealous wing
quartz sky
I think before I mostly used melee for everything except shooting at dogs or the net guys or whatever
zealous wing
gun
zealous wing
vraks mark of infantry autogun
zealous wing
shouldn't you explode at 100% though?
warp unbound
zealous wing
shouldn't you explode at 100% though?
also you dont explode AT 100, you explode if you cast at 100, and dont have warp unbound
also for the warp slash wanters, i gotchu
acoustic jacinth
also you dont explode AT 100, you explode if you cast at 100, and dont have warp...
It's funny how many players i've met unaware of this still, i'm not sure how it was before but a lot seem to have a fear of the 95% peril area
quartz sky
It's funny how many players i've met unaware of this still, i'm not sure how it ...
I think you can explode at 100 if you get hit? Not just casting
but maybe I'm wrong or it's changed
acoustic jacinth
No
quartz sky
no idea
zealous wing
no
quartz sky
ok good to know
acoustic jacinth
The only thing that ever blows u up
Is casting at dead set 100
You can also do shit like
Charge inferno staff to 99% and let go
Still not blowing up at 100
zealous wing
what, make us explode if using warp at 100, even if its just midcast?
quartz sky
ok so I swapped the talents, I was using Karien's guide now I'm using your build
now I just have to find the weapons
acoustic jacinth
what, make us explode if using warp at 100, even if its just midcast?
Peril system as a whole more like. I'm a big fan of tap quell min cast but especially coming from VT2 i find it comical how stupidly easy it is (ping being the only real enemy past a point of practice)
zealous wing
Peril system as a whole more like. I'm a big fan of tap quell min cast but espec...
i felt that earlier today
quartz sky
these are the weapons I'm using btw
acoustic jacinth
Yep
zealous wing
helped someone on NA West witha penance, then forgot to fix it later
acoustic jacinth
As an eastern european it's very common
zealous wing
yeah
acoustic jacinth
Welp, gl
zealous wing
i have a 70/70 mob/cleave DS so my luck may hold
acoustic jacinth
these are the weapons I'm using btw
It's fine, deflector on that illisi is pretty nice, shredder autopistol is aight as a weapon
I gotta look for the plasma
Its not that i dont have dockets
Lowk just lazy sometimes lol
My brain says we should be playing rn
zealous wing
me when i should finish leveling psyker14 but i wanna get my main psyker to 1k
i know that once i hit 1k with him ill want to run another psyker, but i need the character slot freed for me to do so
quartz sky
right click + left click with the sword is push?
zealous wing
yes
and hold left is push attack
which is a 9m range single target shove
will interrupt a crusher overhead
quartz sky
oh ok so it's not like sienna dagger
or things like that
it's single target with all swords?
zealous wing
with the force swords / FGS yes
quartz sky
works with dogs or mutants?
quartz sky
ok so the masteries
using a weapon I improve my mastery with that weapon, and to change marks I have to have enough mastery in that weapon category?
so like I have an Agrippinaa Infantry Autogun but to change it to a Vraks I have to get at least mastery level 3
correct?
quartz sky
I don't understand the Max Power thing though. I have 100/500 on all weapons
obtuse dome
At a certain lvl ull gain the ability to upgrade ur weapon stats.
frail oar
It scales your weapon stats to their high possible values
obtuse dome
At like mastery 7 u can go to 200 then 300 400 and so on
hollow summit
wait you can block dogs? what
quartz sky
and then I guess I have Blessing Points that I can spend on Traits but I have some already unlocked even though I haven't put any points in those I think
obtuse dome
wait you can block dogs? what
frail oar
You can see the max statline next to each current stat value
acoustic jacinth
wait you can block dogs? what
Theyre talking about force push force weapons innately have
The same applies to everything else with dogs tho ofc
quartz sky
can I reset the blessings if I put points in a shitty trait?
acoustic jacinth
Its just force weapons can interrupt crushers
frail oar
wait you can block dogs? what
Push technically
Force weapons interupt from much further than you think its like 9 meters. If you get good at it managing crushers packs becomes easier.
I didnt learn that till wayyyy too late
acoustic jacinth
can I reset the blessings if I put points in a shitty trait?
No but that is not something you will have to care for soon enough. Gaining mastery on weapons is also achieved via weapon sacrifice which is what most players do since no one likes running around with sub20 mastery weapon
Best way to sacrifice for master is
Go to brunts
Buy weapons of the same type
Consecrate to green at hadron
Sacrifice
Though it's still early for that unless ur dead set on a weapon, this requires dockets + plasteel
quartz sky
Though it's still early for that unless ur dead set on a weapon, this requires d...
how am I doing in terms of those?
for my level
quartz sky
Though it's still early for that unless ur dead set on a weapon, this requires d...
ok and at full mastery you have enough blessing points to max all traits?
acoustic jacinth
It's fine, you got enough plasteel for some mastery sacrifice but dockets will hurt, so id say just play, enjoy the process
acoustic jacinth
ok and at full mastery you have enough blessing points to max all traits?
Yes, at mastery 20 you get every blessing max
You can freely pick
acoustic jacinth
it's easy enough
Pushing dogs is quite safer yeah
I don't know how it works in this game, as in vermintide it is different, but dodging dogs is both easy and annoying.
If a dog is just about to make contact with your body and you dodge, the dog will teleport to you and still pounce
quartz sky
I think I just got a greatsword
my first greatsword
it wasn't in the game when I quit
acoustic jacinth
Nice!
quartz sky
it's green, my old sword was gold, but weapon power is 390 vs 300
I don't have deflector / riposte but whatever I have to farm masteries with this one
ok so it seems the greatsword charges some sort of special attacks, with tho charge bars by the crosshair
how do I release it?
acoustic jacinth
it's green, my old sword was gold, but weapon power is 390 vs 300
Higher weapon power is good because your overall stats increase, however it should be noted that stats matter. Notice how weapons have stuff like 56% (how much of this stat is actually being applied) / 80% damage (the max value) for example
acoustic jacinth
how do I release it?
That raises the more stuff you kill, more dangerous enemy types = more charge, to release it click your special attack input and attack normally
You can hold it to take your time aiming or just click m1 fast, no matter
quartz sky
ok found it, I remembered it was on V but that was probably in Vermintide
or a custom keybind
plucky flax
Real
hollow summit
nope im just fucking dead because im veteran with a chain axe
ironic that the fucking 6 wounds ogryn fucking died
marble crater
Of course he did, because of the extra wounds he is missing health or toughness that actually helps with survival
wicked quiver
guys what is the best stats for voidstrike staff?
zealous wing
guys what is the best stats for voidstrike staff?
blast radius dump
wicked quiver
blast radius = 60?
zealous wing
yes
wicked quiver
alright, thanks
hollow summit
Of course he did, because of the extra wounds he is missing health or toughness ...
He barreled himself
Off a ledge
zealous wing
lmfao
cunning delta
mood
hollow summit
And the smyker just folds whenever enemies come from more than 1 direction
zealous wing
as expected
marble crater
He barreled himself
In that case
hollow summit
He's evidently new because im seeing newbie penances
obtuse dome
blast radius dump
Why no warp res?
zealous wing
because VS hogs peril
obtuse dome
I see
quartz sky
I'm testing Vraks Infantry Autogun but I don't think I'm a fan. Too low damage per hit. How does it compare to the Recon Lasgun XII?
obtuse dome
I'm testing Vraks Infantry Autogun but I don't think I'm a fan. Too low damage p...
Its amazing on scum
zealous wing
less ammo efficient, harder punch per bullet
overall damage pretty similar between the two, excluding burn
reconlas being slower with that damage, but the benefit being large ammo capacity and crit farming
barren arrow
The vraks mk V also deals with flak better than recon no?
summer prairie
<@204309481427959809> wanna 3 man later today?
In Thailand for a few weeks
jovial juniper
The vraks mk V also deals with flak better than recon no?
Vraks5 outperforms recon in many ways
barren arrow
yer
I am a massive fan of the vraks mk v
Only thing for me is recoil, capacity, and ammo economy
the recoil actively hurts the ammo economy, since it takes a few shots before it becomes easily controllable, and unless you're playing vet you aren't getting kills with the first shot reliably
plucky flax
In Thailand for a few weeks
Enjoy man
Smiter in my last game outdamaged the bubble burga guy
Smite is so real
barren arrow
I've switched to voidstrike rn because my melee has caught up to the boss damage that I was using the vraks mkv for, and the vraks mkv is often a poor choice for killing dd highlights because of range & stagger
barren arrow
Smiter in my last game outdamaged the bubble burga guy
i have 5 psyker builds i'm messing around with and not 1 uses a bubble
plucky flax
Actually my fav bubble build is balloon knight
barren arrow
my #1 ops in life be crushers & trappers hiding in hordes, so that's what I tend to focus on building to deal with
weary idol
bubble ain't even that good but havoc pubbies will get mad if you don't bring it
they never learned how to deal with ranged enemies and use it as a crutch
zealous wing
that or they never learned how to position and absolutely need the guide
or both
both is very likely
anyone upset at no bubble doesnt know the map well, and is genuinely scared
ornate hamlet
I just checked the pins by complete accident and through no fault of my own, and the first image reminded me how much I like EXPANDING MY SPHERE OF INFLUENCE ACROSS ATOMA
Sorry, I mean pushing the enemy back so we aren't just camping the same spot while peppered by gunners
ornate hamlet
These people are a classic case of "just because you're nice, it doesn't mean you're not wrong"
Except the middle one
clown
zealous wing
1st and last were at least polite about it
ornate hamlet
I wonder if the vet and zealot experiences are the same
zealous wing
voc? chorus? dont doubt it but i feel like its a weird case with psyker
though, my vet only exists as a voc krak helbore bot
weary crane
The only thing I question is PBB ogryn
zealous wing
i dont play him otherwise
plucky flax
Imagine not using balloon
zealous wing
balloon is not as cute as blue magic missile bees 😭
i long for some random to call bubble something similarly wild yet accurate
quartz sky
Enemies marked by Disrupt Destiny are those that gain a sort of light blue glow?
or that's a different mechanic?
barren arrow
just had the single worst case of build-complain i've ever had because of this lol
barren arrow
Enemies marked by Disrupt Destiny are those that gain a sort of light blue glow?
yes but other classes like arby have similar mechanics that do the same thing
Other players cannot see your marked targets
small spindle
whats the dump stat for the staffs?
static sonnet
whats the dump stat for the staffs?
Warp resist for all except void STRIKE, which is blast radius
small spindle
so I got what I wanted but it started out as 280 instead of 300-330 ish the rest of them were popping in as. Just means more empowering to do right? I was lvl 30
static sonnet
so I got what I wanted but it started out as 280 instead of 300-330 ish the rest...
Yeah the max stats are always achievable by empowering it to 500 rating
deft stump
In Thailand for a few weeks
Try the fried bugs, specifically the mealworms btw.
radiant frigate
this has solid amusement value
ornate hamlet
clown
sage pulsar
what's going on with the psykers today?
plucky flax
They always suck.
spice oar
what's going on with the psykers today?
Purg havoc and hope for the best till the season reset
I’ve been seeing rotten armour crushers in my dreams…
sage pulsar
s'it that bad?
spice oar
There’s nothing exceptionally bad about playing psyker in havoc I just don’t like the current season lol
sage pulsar
oh, no I meant the rotten armor crushers. I've not played havoc yet lol
sage pulsar
yikes
weary crane
To all carapace units in the game
deft stump
Rotten Armor just sucks
We should force the devs to play their own balance lul.
zealous mango
Okay maybe scier melee psyker is kinda funny
dull scroll
based mk8 user 😌
prime elk
there are dozens of us
radiant frigate
based voidstrike fgs user
acoustic jacinth
that's a funny looking
mk6 fgs
zealous mango
based voidstrike fgs user
voidblast and strike are kings
quartz mauve
what should my dump stat be on the electrokinetic staff
verbal thistle
warp res
quartz mauve
nvm yall i checked the pins!
zealous mango
Is this a good build attempt? Feeling play psyker again just for melee
buoyant maple
what should my dump stat be on the electrokinetic staff
Charge rate / warp resistance depending on what ur building for
prime elk
Is this a good build attempt? Feeling play psyker again just for melee
for FGS i'd take wrath / riposte imo
and if you're going to do gunker, assail is very important
i also don't think PC/wildfire is worthwhile on gunker
hardy citrus
so what are thoughts on crack of bone for meleeker
zealous mango
for FGS i'd take wrath / riposte imo
and if you're going to do gunker, assail is...
my time playing this build with FGS, I feel cleave has been good without wrath
prime elk
which i know is controversial
prime elk
my time playing this build with FGS, I feel cleave has been good without wrath
yeah i don't think wrath is mandatory or anything
that one is more personal pref
depending on how much time you spend meleeing, perfectionism may also be a better choice
though i also take cruel fortune
zealous mango
this only just gives 5%?
buoyant maple
Is this a good build attempt? Feeling play psyker again just for melee
Unstable + shred/riposte
warp resist dump
And probably run assail? I think assail is better with SG tbh
zealous mango
Description not telling it can stack up made me confused
zealous mango
And probably run assail? I think assail is better with SG tbh
Kinetic Flayer is kinda too good for me for melee
modest perch
Stacks up to 4 times I think?
that is correct
buoyant maple
Kinetic Flayer is kinda too good for me for melee <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771883229061...
Assail with peril cleave and cleave subnode is bonkers