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what weapons?
This could be better
The most fun arby build tbh
Footknight Krubby enjoyers
I play absolutely nothing but this when arbying
I asked some arby leveling guide and no class sub have some psyker guide gods like people 
this could be better too; especially the crusher
if you want some arby knowledge i can provide

How so?
Dump defence, get thunderous instead of slaughterer
Done
is there a meta havoc build? I build the meta one and then grind other ones
I see
I don't really use crusher specials though
there is always meta; its more about understanding what things provide & how you can combine them for maximum benefit - from weapons to talent tree
Also isn't the damage increase between 60-80 power output p small?
you should; its underrated - ppl who say its only good for opening bulwarks are pepega
Ehhhhhhhhhh
number itself is small but remember; you play as arby that has many dmg increasing talents + SC
if you hit a boi with special its a double hit
meaning you apply 20% brittle & SC + with LP from bruhpistol your radius is... 5 - 6m that is spammable & stuns everything exept mutants, bulwarks, crushers & bosses (what old paul was btw; 'nerf' masked as 'rework') - within that radius you apply brittle & SC & stop majority of the enemies
also uh
I can survive a crusher overhead with only toughness now
like, ok
arbites 2
with no health damage?
yes, the bottom two are from event
Sigh, first time playing auric and I'm the player with the least deaths
What a train wreck
There is a new event?
Pubs are really off atm.
Everyone is drunk and in a food coma because of Christmas
Not me. I had instant.
Instant what?
Instant noodles.
we back to darktide release overheads then
time is a flat circle
How?
fuck it i am ready to come to the dark side
I wonder if it's TDR maxxed with all toughness.
whats the name of the mod for more builds
Cos you can totally eat mauler overheads with no hp damage on specific setups.
idk I ate an overhead and was like "yo"
I eat an overhead on occasion but that only happens when I got all the defensive talents and am at like 90% peril and blocking
And it would leave me at like 15 hp
Tashinga Bepete and myself come together to drop all our grievances, to bring you this Emperor approved duet of the Dido song, โWhite Flagโ. Enjoy!
Happy Holidays to all the Psykers!
Arby bonkstick and sniper exec shotgun
You're a flat circle. >:(
you calling me fat? ๐ญ
No, flat
I'm saying you're like da Vinci's Vitruvian Man
You are the Vitruvian Elf
(yes that does make more sense)
i didn't say it makes sense
i just said it makes more sense than before, which, to clarify, was none
Ah, that's a relief. I have nothing but my silliness and nonsensicality.
To lose those would be to lose my very identity
Also, merry Christmas ya silly psykers. And serious psykers, too, should ye be out there.
Best scum name I've seen so far
It is a good name
It's... it's the grinch ๐จ
Looks more like the frownch in that picture
Ye; talent tree could be a lil bit better with those weapons
I don't have a lot of talent points to move around. I much prefer Forceful to EO, and with the Psyker aura, my BtL cooldown is shorter than Arbites Vigilant, so I should have it up a lot of the time.
I did take Agent's recommendation to move the oggy damage node to Emperor's Fist
+15% against all enemies is better than 20% against some
I will when I get home from travel. Will be a bit
But the CD for BtL is 10.6 seconds with the psyker aura, so it should be really solid uptime if using BtL as much as possible. If the uptime is bad, then something else would be better
Can BtL instantly refill Forceful if you hit 10 enemies?
yea
use both
EO you take when you use dog primarily; other than that forceful everytime
Is hammer of judgement still bugged
Yippee!
the issue with AV on BTL is that you lose DR from Forceful; makes it risky if there are any source of range dmg around (shooters, gunners, fire, gas)
AV is best for Casti unironically
does not gain any stacks
as in you lose all & don't gain on hit with the ability
also don't use suppression force; bait talent - only useful vs bosses in general
That does not seem accurate
it works like that unfortunately
I spend enough time doing single-target hits that suppression protocols or whatever the TDR node is has like a 40% uptime. Is pretty eh
you have 10 stacks; you use ability; you spend all, gain no forceful on impact, gain AV stacks
I need to test that. Can't find anything in Kuli's guides that says it's mutually exclusive
quick question;
what does the enemy do when you stagger it? It stops attacking
its not about uptime; its about what it does - and does very little in practice
a common 'uptime good = good talent' type shit
High uptime does mean a talent is having more impact, yes
And typically when the TDR one is up is when I need it least
B/c I am just smacking hordes
not in case of suppression force it is 
DID I JUST MISTOOK THE BOTH CAUSE BOTH HAVE SUPPRESSION IN THEIR NAME!?
YE; HERE;
Suppression Force - dogshit, dont use it (you choose it)
Suppression Protocols - great; should always use it instead (did not choose it)
I do not care for suppression protocols
It has low uptime and does not have uptime against dangerous enemies
Merry Christmas, Psykers.
What about smite users?
We... don't talk about them.
But im nice T~T
Does Santa think so? Did you get coal?
@buoyant maple wot's your LW + Forceful Arby build? I wish to compare.
@icy breach you can get Forceful stacks when using BtL with Arby Vigilant. It's just super finicky. I tested, and sometimes I got no stacks, sometimes 1, sometimes 3-4.
thats handy! albeit more of a curio tier - better be prepared to have none once the ability is used
might be based on distance? cause AV does not consume stacks in 1 go just 1 at a time but very fast
We have Beans at home.
Beans at home:
It could be distance, or it could be the BtL collision versus the AoE at the end.
Or just spaghetti code
try different distances
I will when I can get back on my laptop. I am wondering if colliding with the enemy too soon means that you haven't spent the Forceful stacks yet
Unrelated to that, I offer you a gift from a Marylander in Texas for the holidays:
Your profile picture is not a narwhal
Bro what is the issue with smite
people hate how good it is
As a non psyk main who never plays smyke i literally have been saved so many times by a smyker
they can be too good sometimes lol
Tbh I've always found inferno psykers one million times more annoying than smykers
They just kill literally everything before I get to them
facts
I feel deceived
Smite is strong. Smite is boring for other players. Smykers tend to hold down RMB and do nothing else. Smykers can often not adapt to situations where Smite is not useful, such as bosses or final toll havocs.
exactly
@icy breach it absolutely seems to do with the way AV drops stacks. Same enemies, same distance, I get 4 stacks of Forceful from 0 when using BtL, but 1 if I start at 10.
Hate for bad smykers misdirected at smite itself
Smite is too strong imo.
It needs to be something you can't have up for 90% of the match
arby mines
Hell, have Smite be a single-shot with a cooldown, and it spreads on its own
Sort of like Wildfire and Soulblaze.
Jumps to enemies so long as there are enemies to jump to and it has enough charge left
Only direct impacts count.
Start with 30 stacks of "Smite", and reduce it by 1 for each enemy affected until 0 stacks remain. So each jump is -1 stack or something. I don't know.
That's the goofy part.
Yes. But it also doesn't count all direct impacts because the Forceful stacks haven't drained yet
So it's pretty unlikely you'll hit 10 people but you do get stacks.
I like that
So if I hit like 10 enemies in the first meter of the BtL charge, it doesn't count them because I am already at 10 stacks
There seems to be a second or so period between BtL starting and Vigilant actually taking effect
None of that matters anyway because the actual best is mandibles on your dog.
Shock on the arby maul also works
One special attack on a crusher or summat will get Forceful fully stacked. If the crusher lives that long.
Crusher maul special โค๏ธ
This is my current Arby build. Not sure if I will keep Vigilant or move that point back to oggy + monstrosity damage. I will need to test uptime when I am back on a PC that can actually play the game
I take this back. I was confusing it with the 15% damage to enemies above 75% hp
I'm just not sure if the strength bonus from Vigilant is worth losing all of the Forceful stacks and their bonuses.
What do you mean?
i never really understood how crazy purg is until i joined a rotten armor without it, the difference is literally night and day
i was the zealot
emp fist is so strong, I confused the talent with the hp one
i think
all g
Ah, okeydokey, I was a tad confused. I think this build is decent. Just unsure.
Purg + Uncanny is a broken combination that needs to be nerfed.
actually having to fight ragers and maulers plus horde on top of fighting rotten crushers is too much for me
You do look like you don't have a lot of fluff 
All the rotten armor I have done so far this season I did on Rending Trauma. And with Combine, so it mattered less how well I did, because Combine is very good at the game.
all my fluff was shot away by the heretics ;_;
My entire goal was to make things easier for him to kill.
Getting carried, smh
:<
Hey, at one point he was dead and I duo'd a couple bosses with the other scum
Gotta say, 2x scum, 1x rending psyker, 1x arby is maybe not the best team comp for H40. But we did win more than once.
Trauma stick does not feel great in Final Toll.
it feels like 1 frontline 1 psyker plus two more people who have good single target/special sniping is sorta the standard way to do havoc
Nah 1 ranged scum is best, psyker is always a must, then you need a couple of tanks like arby + ogryn
but the nontraditional comps are also fun! i dunno if i would try to climb in a psykerless team though, my fundamentals are not good enough to kite and horde clear while also killing armor and specials
I fear the day the nerf hammer falls upon Psyker.
The same people banging on about psyker nerfs will complain havoc is too hard when the psyker isn't their horde clear crutch
I dont think you always need psyker tbh
Probably true.
If the team is good, yes. Most teams are not.
Rotten armor is also particularly challenging due to melee and ranged having such limited effectiveness.
So the explosive damage of trauma or the DoT of uncanny soulblaze has an outsized effect
scummer is also good for rotten armor
Toxin OP
Putting on my conspiracy theory hat, Fatshark brought back rotten armor to sell more scum.
Toxin + boom bringer
I love stimm supply
Some havoc 40, but Stimmy-Turner is still in a Coma.
I probably deployed my crate more then 100 times
I have already pre-written my negative review 
Yes, you are korrekt
And your thumbnails are, as always, eye-searing
yes
There is a lot to analyze in that thumbnail
what in tarnation does dn mean?
I see.
What in the holy christ is this
there is nothing holy here
a thumbnail
Looks more like a fever dream 
Think they're gonna nerf this?
Insane if they dont
Lmao
it gets better every time omg ...
Just played Return to the Reik for the first time and was reminded how much better VT2 maps are than Darktide
Create the problem
Sell the solution
Much prettier
Prettier, more interesting set pieces, more unique mid and end events
Better map design
but do they have more rats?
Rubber rats? I hate rubber rats, they make me crazy
I don't get stuck in VT2 on stuff nearly as much compared to DT
You know, Vermintide just might have a couple more rats than Darktide. A few.
So you don't hurt yourself.
a rubber room of rats
and rats make me crazy
the rats drove me crazy
crazy?
I was crazy once
Eat them, show them that you are higher in the food chain.
they locked me in a room
a rubber room
a rubber room with rats?
the rats drove me crazy
crazy?
What.
Crazy?
i was crazy once
locked me in a room
Okay I figured out if you complain about smite, you're too good at the game
I play heresy and hate smykers.
Well, heresy isnt that hard
But most people tend to get their behinds handed to them when theres a million of specialists every second and dont complain about them being stunned
I also suck and hate smite
Good lord I hate bombers so much, its as if they had a sniper range on their eternal dot nonsense
If someone hasn't killed the bomber before a smyker can smyke it, your team is likely making mistakes
Also, if you are in a position to smyke a bomber, I would 100% prefer if you just used that time to kill it
Yeah mistakes
Thats what I said
If you hate psykers, you dont make mistakes
Or you're a person who doesnt have their own opinion and look to pros for it
I think you just like smyking and are displeased people dislike the playstyle tbh
No, just people I qm auric with dont complain about me doing it. probably cause we're all too busy getting wrecked
And I usually play smite with bubble shield anyway
Is more a joke on sucking and still hating smykers.
Its hard to smite everything when enemies are coming from every angle too
I know I sound like a broken record here
But same as in Vermintide
If enemies are coming from all sides, your team is not positioning well
Though I admit its more fun to play shield ogryn and spam push everything
You should fight in areas where enemies have limited avenues of approach. Should being the operative word.
Even in H40, people often don't do that.
Yeah, here we come to 'making mistakes' again
It's 50/50 if people relocate to a strong position or just rely on skill to survive.
And then, uh, another 50/50 if that skill is there.
If you hate smite, you dont make mistakes
Yeah you've said that
That is certainly one of the takes of all time
we live in a society
i downed 18 times in an auric mission a few weeks ago. i hate smykers, and dont understand any love for smite
i desire smites removal
Smite is easy to use and has a large visible impact.
That's all there is to it
Smite is probably the single easiest playstyle in the game. Easier than Arby.
It allows players to feel strong, to fulfill a power fantasy, without as much risk of getting bullied by the game.
And despite what anyone might say, this is a damn hard game.
Problem is, the avg smyker manages to go down in malice.
just use smite. who cares what discord nerds say abt it
I guess you just dont like winning or hate losing enough
Are you H40?
I'm not trying to be mean here but this is literally throwing
Yeah its bloody hard, and even with a smyker you're probably going to get your behind handed to you a lot
you're quite literally being a deadweight by not doing damage
opposite of both of these
skill has nothing to do with disliking people who turn down teammates damage and think enfeeble makes up for that
let alone stopping us from maneuvering enemies into more desirable positions for something like a warp slice or shriek
I'm still laughing at how he's using that to insult you when I can bet he's not even H35.
smite is zzzzzzz
no havoc, actually
I lose more with Smykers than without tbh
he's on my friend list
ye
probably related to the fact that smyker are usually not very good at the game
Yes. I advocate for people to play what they want. I still hate Smykers.
friend list and insulting me is a weird way to be
You need to carry them instead.
Im drunk and when we played together I only had one level 30
getting back to 40 is such a slog with randoms now
I'm purely talking about clearance even.
And is telling people they're too good at the game an insult anyway
I think a majority of Oggy players I've seen this season have been shieldgryns. They're usually quite good. But they're usually not just spamming push.
yeah
not really, but its inaccurate
Probably trying to taunt everything
There is a funni push atk build though for oggy.
shit is so frustrating to play with because you're effectively playing with a bot
I don't think it's for H40 though.
The game doesnt reallyy offer too much in the way of a support/healer playstyle
Even supports have to be doing damage
i dunno corruption immunity is close
and arby is peak support, no one plays it that way tho
My absolutely bad idea of a Book Zealot.
arby isnt good at anything except not dying
btl + nades is such a godsend when there rotten armor
Shield is best for staying alive, pushing with the correct talent gives brittleness, and the recommended blessing is Last Guard or whatever that gives big boosts on pushing and blocking.
I've never made a mistake.
:(
nope
Why are you calling me nobody, Hexis
Yeah, you plaay with a bot that makes everything easier to kill
you can support your team by actually being useful
definitely on purpose
Hex?
You had a plan.
I can get this one lmao
I miss Ironbreaker Bardin bot.
im not expecting a second trapper
Get clever girled nerd. ๐ญ
at least vt2 bot some what deal damage and can stay alive
I played VT2 earlier today--only Legend, as I don't have WoM--and the bots were great
also push being much stronger in vt2 in general
Was me + 3 bots
and they can pick stuff up
And they hand you grenades and potions!
on god why can't fatshark let us use our character as bot
I had basically unlimited bombs because whenever I threw one, the bots gave me another
because then they'd have to code bots that know how to do anything
and all of Fatshark's good designers and engineers are still making VT2 content
My absolute biggest " This is in Virmintide why is it nit in darktide" thing
Ye gods, the maps in VT2 are so much more interesting and dynamic. The only DT map that comes close is the trench one
The trench map is actually great
dt maps are kind of fucked over due to the game taking place in a hive city
and reused location really doesn't help
So that part confuses me a lot.
FS made tilesets, right? Going the route of other great horde shooters like Warframe or DRG.
Or, hell, even their own fucking Chaos Wastes in VT2.
One would imagine that they would use these tilesets to produce maps somewhat more quickly, or procedurally, or to have maps rotate in and out a few times a year.
Anyways, I dont hate smite and I dont thinnk that will change anytime soon
Oh, the battle for Tertium is no longer in this part of the forges? Cool, we have different forge maps for half the year.
Same way they rotate dialogue in and out over time.
But... no.
They just made 3 samey maps using each tileset then threw them away
And make new tilesets (see: The Interzone Void)
Then just forget they exist
That's why I want a mission set in a derelict titan
we can't have variety in our "dark and gritty" horde "shooter"
Could be made to be scary
I would love a Chaos Wastes mode set in a space hulk
or the interzone void
That works, too
I don't like chaos waste tbh
Same
the idea is nice but there zero variety
I don't like that VT2 is getting more content even now than DT. >:(
Roguelikes aren't my jam, and it doubled the space VT2 needed on my ps4 without even giving me an option
I was not pleased
mortis trial perk and upgrade are much better because they interact with your build more
meanwhile everything in chaos waste is just general buff
Mortis Trials are bleh.
If they were not just an arena, I would be more interested
i like them, but the pauses are a bit toooo long
i think the higher the diff the shorter the breaks should be
But as it stands, I consider Mortis to be a worse Killing Floor 2
also, i think someones idea of it scaling as havoc rather than base difficulties was good
I think the difficulty should scale up faster
at like max wave its pretty much havoc density
Warframe-esque endless scaling until you lose?
but before that it just bore
Its not my fault being useful in this game generally boils down to 'doing damage'
The usual games I play dont demand supports to do damage
That's bot thought
There are many ways to be useful without doing damage. But if you don't do damage, then the enemies will eventually just come hit you anyway.
I meann, I do hit things, just not as much as others
Get away from the " teamwork is being skilled enough to render the team irrelevant" mindset
Its not like all I do is smite or push
also fun, yeah
My mindset is more like 'my team can do it better than me'
Or 'Ill help others do better'
incorrect. if the tauntgryn is keeping aggro actively properly, and is properly positioned for the team to safely move around, or the book zealot is also doing their job with specials, etc etc, they are doing well.
damage doesnt actually matter. competent players understand that, incompetent egomaniacs dont understand that.
you can help your team by not being 1m behind everyone in damage
push spamming doesn't help your team at all
There are better options but fair. Just the time to throw and the consequences of missing are kinda hard...then again its been a while since I used it lmao
I should use it with my dumbass club
Isn't the consequence of missing getting a free rock back?
take a node
you don't really have good option to give up just for getting rock back when missing/hit weakspot
I had no trouble finding room
Holy hell theres like 10 gunners
Well yeah. Regardless of build, you shouldn't be passive at all
The only healers in VT2 are, what, sister of the thorns for bonus temp HP gen and warrior priest saltzy?
Both of which are products of killing
Its less being passive and more helping others do better
Smite spam actively makes your team kill slower
My bot set-up is always merc, ironbreaker, sott, with me on whatever Saltzy class I feel like playing
same
merc with mns, ib with axe and shield, kerillian with sword
the bot do well with these weapon
4x IB bots would win any mission
they struggle a lot with damage but uh
Yeah, I havennt noticed a difference
I believe that.
Four angy dorfs. They need not damage
Though its certainly easier to kill things when all the million is stuff is not attacking you all at once
Well
The attacks mean you can dodge
And dodging procs damage on dodge talents and blessings
Which then in turn makes your team kill faster
Not to mention the enemies won't be as spread out
But I'm sure you don't want to hear that
And will instead go "yeah people who complain about smite don't make mistakes" or something like that.
Give me a team that can do all that and maybe i'll listen
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
You'll either learn or you won't.
Chances are you will not be my problem.
I cant learn anything that can let me carry the whole team.
You may once you realize most of your limitations are self imposed.
And I dont want to carry everyone anyway
I like helping others do better, not do everything myself
smite goes against everything the game is design for
I just dont like stunlocking myself
Well, I bring my staff and melee for a reason too
there zero skill expression, slow down the game and everyone else not getting to have fun because their entire interaction with enemies is to just hit
Maybe, but I still havent seen anyone in my games complain
Carrying teams is the fun zone of tide
Blazing through is too boring and dying means not playing
Im not a guy who likes carrying people
I feel like that headspace ends up being either you win the match or you blame the team
can't help someone who refuse to get better
I dont blame the team unless they are actively trying to lose the game. And I dont refuse to get better, I refuse to be a sweat
Wont be seeing me kicking anyone cause I dont like their playstyle
What if the team is so bad because they can't even fight stationary targets 
Thats exactly the kind of people im getting in qm's kek
If you like smite then you like smite. Play what you like.
Just know there are plenty of people who don't like it because of how impactful the game is.
If people don't complain, cool; but know that some may barrel you or leave.
Dont care if they leave
I don't leave if I see smite, but I do if the person keeps holding it down.
But barreling is a douche move
I block the people who keep smyking everything.
I will barrel a smyker if I ask them to stop and they don't.
Getting one back to back missions is unfun.
This shits extra funny to me cause you can tell it's right at the start of the level
Thats what gets me with smykers
Someone who know when to use it and doesn't misuse smite tho, I have never been mad at.
Its always immediately on smite
Even if you aren't overusing smite, it's still step 1 in your chain of events when you see enemies
I smite when my team is getting run over, which happens to be 90% of the time
My step one is to use my staff or melee, my step two is smite because my team is getting overwhelmed again
I use it to prime shock status then clean up
Ideally as soon as it spreads to its max range I let go
Usually sooner though bc teammates are Cleaning too
And I want in on that shit
what?
doesnt it literally tie down hordes and stun heavy enemies
that makes them literally easier to kill
Well my teammates rarely kill smited enemies lol
uh oh
Smite means no dodge talents proc or block talents. Smite means you aren't doing damage. Smite means enemies are more spread out.
Apparently if the enemies aren't actively running towards you to feed your kills its "slowing down gameplay"
But six is right
idk i like stopping the horde of shamblers and armoured monsters so the heavies can butcher them
Smite does plenty of damage with emp psionics lul
duh
its a stun mechanic
"wdym the horde stunning lighting doesnt kill everything"
that would make the game a cake walk
why stun when you can kill
Well the buurning vent people use it with does
thats just shriek tho
just because i run shredder autopistol with kinetic flayer doesnt make the shredder autopistol good
staff + shriek+ superiority
Well duh, psyker guns suck
but its fun
what
lmfao
real
how so?
and this is how i know you have no idea what you're talking about, dude
staves are just too good
anythings good if ur cracked enough
That is true
Thats a good point
Well the guns feel bad to me
guns also do boss damage while staves are generally more specialised
okay
Guy comes in here acting like the fucking expert on Darktide, like anyone who says different is a moron, then boldly states that guns are bad on psyker.
thats an opinion, just not a fact
I'm done with this goofiness.
its funny
Ah yes, calling people good is calling them morons lol
I'm not surprised
i flip between using auto guns and the eletric staff
The logical conclusion to why anyone would devolve to smyking
Bottom left man2
2 is amazing
I also finally discovered man in the carnival mission
I never realized he existed before
man?
Yea man
From your thumbnail
since the camera starts large then zooms
gives it enough time to see the rejects
It's not even the rejects because that game I played didn't even have a vet
Fatshark put him there
Man
I do not know what to make of this
Truly
I really wanna know when I claimed to be an expert too
I had 2 people in vc glazing me
while clutching like 3 times
had to explain why side dodging is a movement tech
master degree in tourism
Master degree in adjusting facts to fit one's narrative more like
is side dodging... an unknown?
for most
it also influnces the slot system in some way I can't explain
hive scum release has been disasterous for the human race
tbh I don't even know why side-dodging goes faster, I just know it's faster.
Same reason bunny hopping goes faster in games it does
I do it in every pub game during the run up and non of them catch on

How is this possible
I'm out crabbing all the sweaty knife sliders
You cant crab in csgo!
is scriers + flame a good combo
tru
melee, ranged, blitz
wish flame had actual feedback tho
feels so bad compared to how punchy every other weapon is
Combine it with brain blast and youll get feedback from the random elites youll kill
yeah, sustain damage weapons dont feel as good as burst damage
every 10s
no big hits of dopamine when you get that big damage pop up
I think flame is pretty fun myself
well its that + the fact that flame has 0 impact
random BB ftw
its my current build of full flame in auric mortises
if you get fulminator you have a chance to become immortal
Nice
basically most of the soulfire talents and fenting shriek, no keystone
fenting shriek sounds like a Scum talent

lmao
Its funny how similar smite and fire brain blast builds are
yep, and i know my build would make ainz have a brain blast moment
I'm gonna scream
close but not quite for what i have
I like making viruses with the talent tree
The nurgle symbol is actually a talent tree
No keystone?
Forbidden knowledge right here
no keystone indeed
a hive city is a big place
lots of rat potential in there
So are we just really really weak in upper havocs or is that just me?
Im watching these other classes running around tanking stuff and dealing wayyyyy more damage lol
imma be honest if they're dealing more damage AND tanking, youre doing something wrong
or, are using bubble
psyker weak pls buff
yep
At the end of the day it's probably like 80% skill and rest build
Pick staff of choice, contribute to team purely by not using ammo or grenades, win.
somehow went this long without touching it but today i have been pleasantly surprised at how intuitive and useful non-bubble shield is for denying special spam
when it works
does it hold up at all for havoc or will i get bitched out for trying
Cranking 90's in the 41's millenia
tbh i contribute via being full CC
Flat wall is fun
I wish the other classes had skills as useful as Psyker.
It really feels like Voice of Command is the only real competitor in the active skill category.
Define useful
Doesn't feel like I'm giving up something way better by using it.
General use. Really the only ones I find useful are Voice of Command, the zealots dash, the ogryns taunt, and all the psyker skills.
General use and you don't mention the best QoL ult in the game
Ex stance
Wall hacks, toughness regen, ranged damage, stun immunity, and more
I just feel like for Psyker it's one of 3 really good choices and I struggle to pick the best. For everyone else it's just "that one".
none of the psyker actives will save you from crusher packs but VoC will
I disagree. Maybe besides from chorus/Nancy/ogryn ranged ult
also won't stagger bosses but VoC will
There are pros and cons for each ability and they can fit certain weapons or playstyle better
^true fact
chorus is like a channeled mobile bubble
An aoe, toughness regen, and stops ranged (suppression and damage immunity)
End of the day choose whatever you like
Anyone got brain bleach?
even though i still mostly think chorus is just a worse voc
But try the other abilities on all the classes with an open mind
why no smite
symmetry RUINED
not symmetrical, 0/10
Avoided out of rules
I'm 30 on all of em except Zealot. So far I'd put em as Psyker, Arbiter, Veteran, Ogryn, Hivescum, and Zealot in order of prefered use.
Why is zealot so low
Poor Zealot
intent unclear
cannot discern melee enjoyer or melee hater
30 is barely scratching the surface. Keep playing and learning. Even at 4k hours myself I learn stuff everyday
And then we, in turn, learn things from Ainz
Have fun and don't downplay the abilities
Theres jokes for games being that 1k hour is finishing the tutorial
the one thing I learned is that these class abilities' impact are all ultimately determined by team skills
things like bubble/book not a huge diff in output between newbie and experienced players, where as things like exe, stealth..etc. new players taking them over say book/shout would be troll while players at the top would make much more impact with them
I'd guess around 2k hours people can be "baseline" knowledge level
Im just getting my ass kicked, theres not enough dodge or pushback in the world to deal with the amount of crushers that surround me
I'm halfway there
And are you asking for help or here to complain?
Advice
unless i can cash in my vermintime in addition to darktime
There are some here
practice and probably ds
the key lies in mobility
Ive put almost 500 hours into psyker
but mostly practice
Very Dota 2 in here.
run away and make your team be your meatshield, then kill everything
gotta kite them, you stand your ground like people would in lower diff thinking you can just "tough it out" you going to get over ran and die then and there
ds can probably kill an infinite amount of crushers
How do you learn the best?
but you do need to be light on your feet
Visual? Reading?
Mostly prefer ranged to melee, but DOT enjoyer as well.
tbh I think the biggest sign of success in H40 is a team that knows where to fight as opposed to standing in the open and fighting wherever the horde happens to arrive
then i am somewhat surprised that arby and ogryn are rated above hs
Teams that backup are sure signs of experienced players
a video demonstration would be best, but anything really. It just feels like I cant outrun or outfight the level and number of enemies I am having to face
I have a ton of psyker videos
No good roll on Needle Gun yet.
detecting shitty terrain is a skill in itself
And by good, I mean tolerable to invest in.
But probably non about fire staff
Anywhere and everywhere with a ledge for one.
tbh i wouldn't take this build into anything near havoc 20+
If you just want videos to watch and see what people do to win in dire situations, then my channel can help. I have a lot of challenge videos in havoc 40
that too but it's more about limiting avenues of approach and not gettimg surrounded
Yes please
lol
Idc at this point
Also fair, just make sure it's not a one room door or the crushers and maulers will introduce you to the floor.
Cranking 90's in the 41's millenia
Ill try anything
Here is a psyker one
zero shame ainz is epic
Melee psyker in havoc 40
Look at where I stand and where I move when I hear things
Does it show the build?
TY
Also, understand that I made some choices in build stuff that help me the most
But that won't apply to all players
Just ask questions if you need
I hab very many builds that are H40 ready in the pinned build guide.
newbies playing fgs melee psyker is going to get themselves owned ๐
I did have a question. Which of the staves are havoc viable? So far inferno hasn't let me down.
start with the most meta/braindead burga that 90% of the psykers play in havoc
I spent my 1st 1000 levels on psyker playing melee
Warhammer 40,000 Darktide
Build: h'ttps://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=a0382ec1-0e4e-4190-818e-b0d71b850eda
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Before crafting update
What would that be lol
ah
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It helped me in learning how to play the game
All are, but there are clear winners that ovwrshadow the other 2 with 1 main difference. Infinite cleave
Prug and trauma's value skyrocket in higher diff
While strike and surge suffer more
But all 4 are very strong
In H40: Purgatus > Trauma > EK >>> Voidstrike
You can make Voidstrike work. It will be much harder than the other 3
I notice the build skips Mind in Motion, could I take it in exchange for Kinetic Resonance?
Really? That easy? Fair enough.
Sliding removes the movespeed debuff of quelling and charging staff
What do you guys suggest for the Combat Axe? what Perks and blessings go on it?
And what Mk is a good one?
U can check my guide in #veteran-class pin
The steam guide one?
WOW!!! That is a good one!!
Yea
Hammer of the Emperor
Why the Antax one.... can engore cleave targets?
is it just REALLY focused on one target?
1.6 vs 1.8 cleave
?
Doesnโt make notable difference on how many enemies u can hit
ah, i see.
It seems all the marks, are pretty close to each other, the damamge is the same across the board
Rashad is best
Then Rashad....
oh, Rashad? I was looking at it as well, it seems to have wider swings, along with a good special single target swing.
Why unarmored? and not flak?
Written by a psyker hater. >:(
Scab bruiser has 815 health and weakspot is unarmored
Iโm not that much of a psyker hater
I just think the class is unreasonably strong and unfun to play with
What do you guys suggest with the Blaze Force Greatsword?
Also, I have one with a dump stat on Warp Resist, and one with Defenses dump stat.
Why not defense? isnt it useless on alot of the melee ones?
Dump warp resist
Since it'll increase the slash damage with the talent "warp rider"
Warp resist is a better dump
Defense affects dodge
OH! I just read that....that is importatn
And why dump a minor buff when you actually get a buff by dumping warp
And the 2 marks are...for one for more verticle and one for wider right?
the MK6, and the MK8.
The mark doesnโt matter that much, just moveset preference
mk6 is better
What do you suggest for perks, and blessings?
big stab is significantly easier to access
carapace, unyielding, unstable power, then a preference blessing like wrath, shred, deflector, riposte, precog
Cara/unyield. Unstable/Riposte/shred
Unyielding carapace
Shred unstable wrath riposte, pick 2 from 4
what about warp slice?
Bad.....
and Murderous?
meh
but seems, unstalbe power, is just too good, its a core?
20% strength is good, yes
U can technically save 1 point on cleave if u need it
wait, I see Wrath....is that good? especially on the MK6?
No peril cleave with it?
Hmmm
But is that not against the idea of how the sword likes to fight. Poke single target, use special on horde
For shred....chained hits, what does that mean?
hit something then hit it again
Hitting enemies without missing
Could be skipped if u run wrath tbh
so, it can be diff targets, but you have to keep hitting right?
Check my guide again lol
See any blessing page for swords
Precog, not as good as Riposte?
XD TOO long, will read when can
Just skip to any sword blessing section
Thereโs navigation panel on the right
Less synergy with the talent tree (psyker gets a lot of value from crits from talents) and you can already 1 shot most enemies
No need for overkill damage
I just wanna be a space wizard and light things on fire
Also FGS is not the fastest to hit.
As stated, psyker wants crits.
I can see running precog on DS, knife, or other fast hitting weapons. I'm a precog hater tho.
Down with precog!
Beneficient Emperor, strike Precog down!
my divinations indicate that precog sucks
I scry with my little eye... that precog is for losers
is precog for suckers?
signs point to yes, orb visions never deviate
Any advice for trying to get Auric Storm Survivor?
Using Flame Bubble w/ Greatsword
i recommend ds4 bolter zealot (it's degenerate but it worked)
Dont have a Zealot
other than that i would not pair fgs with flamer
fgs is a weapon so juicy it wants to be the main focus of the build and flamer also wants to be the focus
both of these would prefer a more specialized sidearm to go with them
so you either drop one or the other imo
Fgs with laspistol or flame staff with 1h fs
or flame staff with dueling sword
or knife
something mobile and/or uncanny
for fgs laspistol very good and so is reconlas (the fast one)
ok i'll swap the GS for dueling sword
mind you this is not to say you can't play fgs flamer
but they do not compliment each other
Flamers usually play knife with stealth I think
psyker stealth
I use the agri shotty with FGS
Probably my favourite gun on psyker, given that you can magdump it, snipe shit and use the slug to open bulwarks
Being able to stand in front of the "in my time" enemy to say "no, in my time" is priceless

drop the FGS if you going to flame stick
poorgatoos
Yesterday was the only appropriate day of the year to use the purg staff
is the flame stick dot soulblaze or is it something else entirely
it looks similar
yes, it's souls blaze
Yes it's soulblaze
cool
Also holy shit I read through the entire last 7 hours of discourse
Why
Because six pinged me then and I'm still in bed scrolling
Oh ic
I should make psyker chat bingo
I do not join smite discourse, as I am extremely prejudiced
You are only allowed one free space though?
Ainz fans when zwai shows up
Free space would be someone wishing psykers stopped existing in another chat
I played my annual arb game yesterday
And people say PSYKER ignores game mechanics?
Oh look, a bulwarks + crushers kill squad... Be a shame if someone were to...
Fwiw I don't even know what constitutes ignoring game mechanics
Boom them away.
Things like positioning, target prioritisation, correct dodge usage, correct block usage, correct ability usage, etc
OR THAT
This is just wildcard.
at least bigbadaboom is somewhat limited and not on a 12 sec cd >.>
I never manage my dodges and I'm doing just fine
BACK OFF! Shock mine activated.
Just spam it, lul.
Fuck correct dodge usage
Just spam it and then start pushing a bit more when it runs out
add fgs propaganda (and misuse of it in buildcraft)
I'll see if I can slap one rn actually
@radiant frigate @tulip kettle @ripe obsidian How's this?

Trauma barrel was fixed, maybe change it for Trauma ruins toughness regen of melee characters? 
Amazing. But precog being made fun of? Why i oughta 
My limitless intelligence still blows everything up
I still see it happen ๐
Even I still do it on accident from time to time
Now that I'm generally okay at the game trauma barreling is pretty much the only time I get justifiably flamed in chat
I feel like i'm still too careless to do otherwise, but hell, even if i squinted and tryharded there's just too much density and too much shit happening for me to worry about the local zealot fotf-ing into the horde
Like, cmon, you're zealot you can tank it anyways

looks solid
I tried balancing out discord channel shenanigans with ingame happenings to give it a little variety
we do play the game, after all (allegedly)
allegedly..
omg its perfection
I have never seen Kat play the game
Now show the last time you played
(fake news my mouse double clicked and launched it for a split second as i was going for the first screenshot)
i have been playing rogue trader
(still melee psyker though)
though i also quite enjoy yrliet
(she's supposed to be weird and different but i find her relatable)
the elf doesn't like to be physically touched
but i'm sure the other elf doesn't mind
๐
he does not seem to enjoy shitposting however
Might need to try this, can it match the laspistol in boss damage?
If you can't hit half the hp bar after emptying out, then you are not going to do it faster.
lighting staff good?
Yes
if im using lighting ability what staff should i use?