#psyker-class

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ripe obsidian
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Flak always, and Unyielding or crit chance.

minor timber
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This is amazing, thank you! You do the community a great service

ripe obsidian
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You're welcome. I do my best

strong gulch
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you said that you don't hold smite down 24/7 tho

if so then you are not a smyker

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using smite is not the same as a smyker

quaint lark
strong gulch
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no

quaint lark
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Or is a Smyker just a 24/7 person?

strong gulch
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well

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mostly

quaint lark
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What else do they do?

strong gulch
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24/7 smite and using it wantonly.

quaint lark
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I use it like...16-18/5-6

strong gulch
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Like there is a bulwark and a gunner within 20m of one another, "time to smite lol".

quaint lark
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Oh no if its that lil hell ill melee them

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Like ill smite sometimes when were in a chill moment and ill see just a enemy and im like, im bored dance for me

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But thats it

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So does that mean im not a Smyker?

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Wtf am I then?

strong gulch
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If you want to claim smyker, go for it.

desert plinth
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hello new to the game lvl 12, are there any valiable assail or magic missle builds for this class? they look cool af but i cant find any up to date builds for it only fucking fire staff so i tough maybe they got nerfed or something

verbal thistle
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check the pins

desert plinth
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tf is the first picture

verbal thistle
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graphic design of a room

strong gulch
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mid event in consignment yard

ripe obsidian
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My ping is reading as 60-70, but everything I am doing is on a half-second delay

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Servers, please

marble crater
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Pain

ripe obsidian
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Guess I am not playing Darktide today

marble crater
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I will play for you, I still need to finish the event for my 500 aquilas KEKW_ogryn

ripe obsidian
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the game is taunting me

marble crater
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Why is mobility red?

ripe obsidian
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Mod

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It's the updated enhanced descriptions mod.

marble crater
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Okay. Why does the mod make mobility red?

ripe obsidian
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I think it's highlighting what the mod author thinks are dump stats

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Which, uh

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Yeah.

marble crater
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Yeah KEKW_ogryn

ripe obsidian
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at least, I am pretty sure that's the mod doing it

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I just ignore it

fossil bridge
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Hello friends. For the monstronum penance, do I just need to brain burst the monstrosity a few times and get the killing blow? Is that how it works?

quaint lark
ripe obsidian
strong gulch
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love a laggy game that doesn't let you swap weapons

then the gas never ends so you just die

ripe obsidian
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are you having server issues, too?

strong gulch
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seems so

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ealier was good

now it's not

ripe obsidian
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Unfortunate.

strong gulch
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Ye

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I'm glad I played a little before that laggy round. The runs were stable and inputs snappy. Felt really good. I even played well. So at least there's that.

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@ripe obsidian Do you know if the aoe stagger from the scum melee ability goes through objects and walls?

ripe obsidian
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I would imagine it does, but I know not

marble crater
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Only if your scum is a trapper, then you can shoot through several crushers, like in this last game KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
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I will try to remeber to test if it does or not. The stagger has a 4.5m radius. So the enemies that failed to get staggered just have been out of range vs a pile of crap blocking the stagger.

celest valve
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smite should only be used to kill IMO for hordes only

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otherwise, you hold it until everything on your screen is targeted, then immediately release

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(it can be okay to wait a lil longer for an ally to come over)

vast yew
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Hey what mod do you guys use to see the peril decimal places

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I'm using PerilGauge but it freaks out if I use both the Plasma Gun and Power Falchion

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namely it adds both bars together, which means if I use the Falchion for a bit and then switch to the Plasmagun I have no idea what my heat is at

strong gulch
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I use peril gauge. I don't play vet but I know there are settings to fuss around with.

IDK if they are 2 separate bars. If so, you can use custom HUD to move them to better differentiate them.

IDK tho.

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Worst case, you can leave a comment on the mod or ask in the modding discord.

vast yew
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Yeah it overrides the heat % with whichever has a higher heat level

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If I turn the mod off, use the plasma gun for a while, then switch to the falchion, the heat starts to go down as normal

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but with the mod on it gets "stuck" so I can't see how much my plasma has cooled down

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and then conversely, if I use the falchion to slap things, then switch to the plasma gun, my heat % jumps up to whever the falchion's bar was at

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which means I have no idea wtf my plasma gun's heat is at

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I left a comment on the nexus page but the author hasn't commented there in over a year despite having another comment asking for the fix and him releasing other mods and updates since

strong gulch
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You might even ask in vet chat to see if anyone knows a work around.

vast yew
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tried that too KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
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I know fixes and stuff get updated in the modding discord before nexus.

vast yew
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I loathe the idea of joining yet another discord channel that I won't actually use

strong gulch
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So someone might have a fix for it or an idea on what to do.

vast yew
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Then again apparently I'm going to have to join it if I want Scoreboard to work again so fuck me I guess

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I miss fileshare sites and forums

strong gulch
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I don't have anything to fiddle with or nor do I know code, so I cannot help much.

vast yew
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I appreciate the attempt

strong gulch
vast yew
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also animation events IIRC

strong gulch
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If after all of that and scoreboard still isn't working, here are some older files for ovenproof scoreboard plugin that are working for me. #psyker-class message

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I can't remember is those are just Syllo's fix or if they are from nexus's most recent update.

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But that are working for me.

vast yew
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It's very annoying

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Well I posted over in the modder's discord to see if anyone knows of a fix

quaint lark
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A spark of hope for smite

vast yew
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The author apparently is active there so hopefully he can fix it

zealous wing
quaint lark
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Lol

zealous wing
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yuppers, happily

quaint lark
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Oh so you wanna be fucked?

zealous wing
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lil bit, gotta get in line tho

quaint lark
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WHEEZE

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Im not a Smyker I am a Sparker

spice aurora
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Wheres the ainz gif

lusty compass
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.>

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<.<

quaint lark
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Sorry guys I broke out of Zealot chat

lusty compass
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where the line end?

quaint lark
zealous wing
spice aurora
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A true smyker will smite a lone trash mob while 3 people fight 4 bosses

zealous wing
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degenerate

zealous wing
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fortunately for you im a lil intoxicated and willing to fight

quaint lark
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And im tired so ill fight back

zealous wing
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sounds bout right tbh

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zealot be horny, psyker be petty

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lets barrel each other off a cliff

quaint lark
ripe obsidian
quaint lark
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Ill hit it first you finish it off

quaint lark
zealous wing
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honestly tbh

quaint lark
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Yes mainly about smykers

zealous wing
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as a psyker main

quaint lark
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But I found what I am finally...a Sparker

zealous wing
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its honestly petty, but im fine with being petty

quaint lark
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Same

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We hate each other but were ok with it

spice aurora
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Some uncle ruckus and stinkmeaner type shit

vast yew
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ah shit Ovenproof is doing bullshit

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halp

quaint lark
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WHEEZE

zealous wing
zealous wing
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if i wasnt about to jump in a game, nor intoxicated, i'd hlp more honestly

quaint lark
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Anyway ima get back to vrchat

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Yall behave

ripe obsidian
vast yew
quaint lark
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And Psykers are all about being petty

vast yew
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Goodbye Ovenproof

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We'll try to fix you again some other time

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
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or linked

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those should work

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if not then idk

vast yew
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I'll try them later

tulip kettle
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psykers arent petty

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they are pedantic

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case in point

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well

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SOME psykers are petty >.>

quaint lark
zinc phoenix
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Psykers love having Lex

spice aurora
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Smykers act like theres a gun pointed at their head and if they stop for a sec if they’re cornered by fast ragers then they die irl

quaint lark
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If they having to smite like that their doing something wrong

spice aurora
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This is the creed of the average smyker

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We did a 4 smite game except for bosses and crushers it was funny xD I don’t even think the dmg stacked it was just funny tho

quaint lark
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OK 4 smiters I will admit is funni af

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I did do that once and holy shit was it a dance rave, we looked around for a extra enemy spawn modifier and when we found it we just smited everywhere, nothing could move, we had 3 boss spawns but we still fucked around with it bc why not lol

spice aurora
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8 wall psyker prolly the most funny game, and unironically very easy xD

quaint lark
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Smyker alone bad, smyker 4 group funny af

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I THOUGHT OF A FUNNY ASS MOD, you smite something it starts carmal dancing

sacred root
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It is like night and day how much more enjoyable Psyker is at level 20 compared to level 9

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The Darktide equivalent of your friend telling you to get into a MMO that gets good only after the boring 50 hour base game lol

dull scroll
celest valve
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because the point of smiting is to remove the ability to get hurt

zinc phoenix
spice aurora
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@ripe obsidian game?

ripe obsidian
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If the servers have fixed themselves. Give me 5-10 minutes

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Earlier I was getting crazy delay, even though my ping was nominal

dull scroll
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@ripe obsidian lets goo, my game is going to oom in psychanium at this rate Guarded

ripe obsidian
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I am finishing a mission in RDR2

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You can run one without me

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I finished, so whenever you're done yours, I am ready.

ripe obsidian
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I think I have the energy for one game before my brain boils too much to think clearly

ripe obsidian
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I have slept so much

spice aurora
zealous wing
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@balmy dawn

balmy dawn
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Present.

zealous wing
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this is where you can have literally all the info you could ever need for psyker my guy

onyx silo
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yoo

zealous wing
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theres a build guide in the pins as well for everything you could want, to have function when youre ready for assistance

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youre allowed to have fun ofc

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but for when youre ready

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also please for the love of the emperor PUT UNSTABLE POWER ON THOSE SWORDS YOU TWO dear GOD

balmy dawn
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There's so many messages in here.

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It'll take me weeks to browse this xP

deft stump
zealous wing
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fun is running FGS and revolver

onyx silo
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i thought i did

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oops

zealous wing
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nah bro 😭

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you didnt

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karien stahp it

zealous wing
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im drunk leave me alone

onyx silo
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it was on my other one b4 i got my perfct one

zealous wing
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also dont dump defence

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warp res is the dump stat

verbal thistle
zealous wing
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as low as you fuckin can

deft stump
balmy dawn
strong gulch
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alcohol

zealous wing
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i found fledglings in the wild while drinking

balmy dawn
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Psyker builds, really.

ripe obsidian
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@strong gulch I need the soulblaze stealing meme

balmy dawn
ripe obsidian
onyx silo
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k im usually drunk playin this game

balmy dawn
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Am I, father?

onyx silo
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i just have fun

verbal thistle
balmy dawn
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"Usually". If it's one thing I know about you Kyle is that you're drunk and high 24/7

zealous wing
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six made the bonanza

verbal thistle
strong gulch
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You robbed Vect. 😭

ripe obsidian
balmy dawn
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Especially at work.

onyx silo
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hehehe

balmy dawn
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FIFTY?!

deft stump
balmy dawn
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I don't even know how to count that high.

ripe obsidian
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I have a lot of builds.

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Hopefully more in the future as more people submit them to me

onyx silo
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im not bad at the game im just drunk

balmy dawn
strong gulch
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Drunktide is it's own thing for sure.

zealous wing
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it helps he called me father

deft stump
balmy dawn
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As long as you don't whip out the belt like my other dad @onyx silo I'll call you anything you want.

strong gulch
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I'm self appointed grandpa

zealous wing
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beans, i agree

balmy dawn
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I thought you were a potato.

zealous wing
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i vouch for this

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beans and dom, grandads

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official

balmy dawn
strong gulch
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@tulip kettle

deft stump
zealous wing
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dom bed

strong gulch
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Unless sleeping

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then stay sleep

zealous wing
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we had drinktide

deft stump
zealous wing
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im leveling out now but i want another drink, but also want to play seriously a little

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wdym karien its fucking 4 am

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3am for him

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he went to bed like, an hjour and a half ago

deft stump
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Yes, the booze got him first.

zealous wing
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not at all

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he kept clutching auric after auric because i drank WAY too much too fast

onyx silo
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its 10pm foor me i can still get drunker

zealous wing
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gin is not to be undersestimated

balmy dawn
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Kyle, if it was possible for you to get drunker Thor would challenge you to a drinking competition.

onyx silo
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hehehe

zealous wing
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you only cant get more drunk if youre unconcious

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so

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theres that in life

deft stump
zealous wing
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yea pretty much

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i got real salty and toxic too which prob didnt help

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toxic about myself but still

deft stump
zealous wing
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worse

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much worse Sitgryn

deft stump
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As in, when drinking. Cos is like shooting reflexes even more and I'm bad enough as is so more self hate for being that much of a failure.

balmy dawn
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Uhm, fellas.

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I'm still on Page 25, there's 131 pages here.

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If you don't want to wait, and wish to play the game instead of waiting for a deadbeet. Go on ahead.

ripe obsidian
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It is a lot of builds.

balmy dawn
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I'll just sit one (or twelve) out

deft stump
zealous wing
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and you like shriek, HOWEVER, why do you like shriek

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is it the wave of fire, or the damage

deft stump
balmy dawn
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I liked Shriek when I started because it vented me and I could continue using Palpatine Hands.

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But ever since Kyle told me it's bad and I'm trash for playing it I switched.

deft stump
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I know someone who took it cos he kept popping.

ripe obsidian
deft stump
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Oh, I guessed it.

zealous wing
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im gonna find and send you a build,

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you copy the best you can

deft stump
balmy dawn
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How do I decide whether to go Precognition or Reality Anchor?

zealous wing
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put this in

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FGS, whatever gun

balmy dawn
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Can I yell "Unlimited Poweeeerr" every time I use my shock hands though?

deft stump
zealous wing
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10s unlimited casting on scriers

balmy dawn
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Wait this is rocks.

zealous wing
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yes

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because smite sucks ass in high difficulties

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and teaches horrible habits

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among many other problems with it

deft stump
zealous wing
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makes us all want it deleted

deft stump
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Bb only with kf.

zealous wing
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it sucks to limit blitz, honestly, i see how smite is fun

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but its just not

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viable

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if you run heresy or lower its OK ish, (read: tolerable but barely), but in damnation, auric, havoc, its so painful to see

balmy dawn
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Oh that's okay then, because according to Kyle I'm trash and I'll never be able to go to higher difficulties (:

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He should know, he has 1500+ hours in the game.

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So, I might as well as have fun in the dumpster.

zealous wing
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jfc

balmy dawn
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What?

zealous wing
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nah throw the whole bro away ngl kek

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literally

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throw him away

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hes worthless

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people who tear "friends" down like that are worth less than nothing

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he hasnt tried to help you at all

deft stump
zealous wing
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i have 2k hours, does that make my word stronger than his

balmy dawn
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He has, he's told me that Palpatine hands are bad and he powerleveled me (:

zealous wing
teal needle
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Is there any faster way to chew through the 2000 seconds of cooldown reduction with aura pennance?

zealous wing
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also his truelevel is shit

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1.5k hours on his main is 200 tl, honestl sad

deft stump
balmy dawn
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I think he plays everything.

zealous wing
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he has 200 something on his psyker, 112 on his zealot

balmy dawn
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Besides Veteran, but he has it max'd as well.

zealous wing
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so far

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meanwhile,

balmy dawn
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That wasn't his Zealot, it was the new character that's like a Borderlands Psycho.

zealous wing
zealous wing
teal needle
deft stump
zealous wing
balmy dawn
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I don't even know how to level that high.

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I'm just capped at 30.

zealous wing
deft stump
zealous wing
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and im not sorry yet

frank prism
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i dont know how psykers play in the beginning without going insane

jovial juniper
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You're a psyker

zealous wing
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i have leveled 13 psykers so far, deleted 9

jovial juniper
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You're already

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Insane

deft stump
zealous wing
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no, deleted 10

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i can maths

frank prism
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the long time it takes to start the head popping is wow

balmy dawn
zealous wing
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it means you are to be taught, not torn down

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not berated

deft stump
zealous wing
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karien runs havoc40s so i can look down on her all i want

balmy dawn
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I'm doomed :(

zealous wing
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lil bit but you wont die

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:D

ionic sorrel
balmy dawn
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Wait, I'm scrolling and looking at the pictures in this Google Docs file and there's a Palpatine Hands build!

deft stump
zealous wing
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be aware

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its there as a trap

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not even joking

deft stump
balmy dawn
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Oh :(

zealous wing
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smite is not viable

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in havoc, theres CC immune enemies. what then,

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god i wish dom was awake

ionic sorrel
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Reposition and use your other tools for those enemies. Also, you'll know the modifiers and can use a different build.

leaden galleon
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TIL a psycher can kill a space marine

zealous wing
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id prefer slaughter

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personally

ionic sorrel
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I get it, I play scriers/demios.

deft stump
zealous wing
ionic sorrel
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That's nice, but I run this.

balmy dawn
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Someone invited me and I thought it was Kyle switching characters so I accidentally left

zealous wing
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all good

zealous wing
balmy dawn
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I did try a full right side build and I just couldn't clear specials.

zealous wing
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theres some exceptions and specifics, however, GENERALLY:

BB wants shriek wants staves wants siphon

assail wants scriers/bubble wants disrupt destiny wants melee/gun

balmy dawn
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It was with Head burst though, never tried rocks.

zealous wing
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otherwise, melee should be mainly used about 90% of the time or more

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revolver not ideal however it is functional for sure

balmy dawn
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I have it but rarely switch to it to kill specials/elites far away in a split second.

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Because Head Burst takes too long.

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Or if I'm overheated.

ripe obsidian
ionic sorrel
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Zap stuff m1 spam can also take out specials if you take surge/warp nexus.

deft stump
zealous wing
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i run BB on my meme shredder AP

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it does literally half the fuckin damage of the build SansXD

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60k is not great

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just sayin

deft stump
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I think something tells me the autopistol needs a buff.

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Again.

zealous wing
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devils claw

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fuck shredder AP, honestly, <arby can make it 19shot a crusher

deft stump
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That one also needs a buff.

balmy dawn
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Can I blow up with rocks?

mental mulch
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Whats a true level anyway

verbal thistle
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the amound of exp you gained after level 30

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the game keeps tract of your exp gained after level cap

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but doesnt tell you

mental mulch
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This game has mods?

verbal thistle
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yes

jovial juniper
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Yup

verbal thistle
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here is an example of true level

mental mulch
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Bonk

zealous wing
deft stump
zealous wing
brisk ivy
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whats the best psyker melee?

deft stump
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Ds and knoife technically fits but you know.

zealous wing
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"technically" is a real stretch

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i love them but

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still

deft stump
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The other three is basically standard.

jovial juniper
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Because they are also best psyker melee

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When the finesse weapon is good for the finesse class

zealous wing
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pretty much

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they still fit, no technically about it

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but they're definitely far below the others as well

sturdy reef
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Knife good for mobility

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I dont like it for much else tbh

grim tree
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how do you deal with maniacs as great sword in melee? just dont ever be near them in melee?

jovial juniper
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Be near them in melee

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Just kill them

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And I assume you mean ragers?

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Use your special

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It is pretty good group stagger

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Even at 0 charge

zealous wing
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if you have assail, throw some to stagger them if they're ragers, then also hit them

cedar delta
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i believe heavy attack staggers them

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you could also wait until their attack animation is finished

zealous wing
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assail is guarenteed, easy, multitarget

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i will say tho

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dreg ragers fuckin scary dude, scab ragers easier to handle, and idk why

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(armoured easier than armourless) i think they're faster?

strong gulch
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diff attack speeds

deft stump
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More likely to hit and chip through.

ripe obsidian
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Scab ragers are slow boyos

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Dreg ragers go zoom

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They used to be the same speed

hollow summit
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finally got warp battery

median furnace
sacred crane
leaden galleon
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ok
ive either been lied to or I'm crazy
but inferno force staff does pathetic damage

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i just cant kill anything with it

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like throwing farts at them

jovial juniper
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Scales with density

sacred crane
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and the game becomes easy mode

leaden galleon
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nothing is dying
the only thing it does is light up the enemies

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which make it easier for my teammates to kill them

quaint lark
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They will die my friend, give it time it will work

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Soon you'll be doing damage like Zealot flamer

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And extra

sacred crane
quaint lark
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Simple but it eases you into it

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Baby steps

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Finding 3 17% toughness things though is a pain, my Vet managed to get them suprisingly easy thkugh

sacred crane
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i didnt include melee because melee is preference, but 99% of psykers use ds

ripe obsidian
sacred crane
pale prairie
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yeah just get more stamina

sacred crane
pale prairie
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why empyric shock bruh

ripe obsidian
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Wildfire is definitely more basic than Empyric Shock, and also more effective

quaint lark
sacred crane
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realistically either node works

pale prairie
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but like.....its just a stagger tool

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you just LMB spamming all match?

sacred crane
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no

pale prairie
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then why not something that synergises with stacks and RMB pumps

sacred crane
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i only rlly lmb spam if a melee enemy gets too close for comfort

sacred crane
strong gulch
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ES is a debuff applied to an enemy not a buff to the player.

sacred crane
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if ur rmbing into a horde, every enemy is bound to get a ton of stacks from a single fully charged rmbed

strong gulch
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It's 1 stack per puff.

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LMB also has a smaller radius

sacred crane
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i just prefer ES cuz it helps kill enemies a bit faster in the cases u need to lmb spam

strong gulch
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You can like it. That's cool.

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But it is kinda a waste unless you are specifically trying to LMB spam and that is usually a DPS loss.

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But it's fine to take if you like it.

sacred crane
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I feel both ES and wild fire are weak nodes in general, they both are kinda niche imo

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ES just has too minor of a buff
Wild fire's stack spreads are too small and you most likely are already giving enemies a ton of stacks without wild fire

strong gulch
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If you have a lot of SB, wildfire good.

If not much SB, wildfire bad.

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Wildfire is for ranged extension, precooking, and snowballing SB (especially with KF and PC).

tulip kettle
#

Factual and based and potato'ed

strong gulch
#

Wildfire's niche is SB.

sacred crane
#

Isnt the radius like 4m?

ripe obsidian
#

Wildfire spreads farther than Inferno reaches and it insta-stacks some stacks before you burn them.

ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
#

This and more

ripe obsidian
#

If Wildfire puts 2 stacks on an enemy, that's 2 stacks you don't need to put on manually

tulip kettle
#

Also, when you go up a lift or through an airlock

sacred crane
#

I just feel that wildfire just makes little difference in my experience

tulip kettle
#

All the enemies run through a door and are stood on top of each other

ripe obsidian
#

And things like Souldrinker and In Fire Reborn also proc on enemies that die while affected by soulblaze, regardless of range or who kills them

sacred crane
#

Enemies die too fast by flames with or without wildfire thats its hard to notice

ripe obsidian
#

Wildfire was crashing the game a couple weeks ago. It was very noticeable in horde clear in H40s

#

Not having it, I mean

tulip kettle
#

Wildfire also enables the KF cycle, and yeah playing without wildfire was noticeably slower to kill trash and less killing random specials off screen etc

#

Meanwhile empyric shock might give you a bit more DPS into a monster, maybe

sacred crane
tulip kettle
#

Still less dps than hitting it with your sword on e maxed SB stacks

sacred crane
#

I just take ES bc the damage is ok when doing some quick lmb stagger

tulip kettle
#

It isnt

#

But that's fine

sacred crane
#

but thats just me

tulip kettle
#

Idk what situation you are imagining where it's really doing anything

#

Either the enemy already has high stacks of SB and will die either way

sacred crane
#

All I see it do is a bit of extra damage on lmb spam, thanks healthbars mod

tulip kettle
#

Or it doesn't, and the additional damage from lmb spam is a DPS loss compared to stacking more quickly

strong gulch
#

If it's dire enough that ES is the thing that is a go to tool, you could also just do PAs with a force sword that has uncanny for significantly more damage that is also a self buff vs a debuff applied per enemy.

sacred crane
#

Lmb spam is sometimes worth the dps loss in some situations, mostly when you need to quickly stagger an enemy off of yourself

tulip kettle
#

Ultimately it's not all that important, but wildfire is definitely noticeable in high difficulty content

sacred crane
#

You dont even need to lmb spam for that long

#

Just stagger them a bit, dodge back and then rmb

#

thats what i do

strong gulch
#

As someone who uses the LMB stagger, it's not worth ES numbers wise.

#

I'd rather have a talent that is basically always working than one that is doing something 3% of the game.

tulip kettle
#

Okay, I think ES is only worth on inferno if you are doing sprint cancel macro abuse

strong gulch
#

Ye

strong gulch
#

swap or sprint cancel.

#

All of that said, if you like to run x, that is justification enough.

#

Meta and numbers be damned.

pale prairie
#

but it sounds so cool

#

EmPyRiC sHoCk

sacred crane
#

I still prefer trauma over inferno simply cuz trauma is funny knockin enemies everywhere

#

also inferno gets pretty...

strong gulch
#

valid

strong gulch
#

real

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
#

Inferno is my favorite staff for when I have low brain power.

#

No think, only fire.

sacred crane
#

i hold le rmb and kill le 20 million elites and special and a horde or two

strong gulch
#

My old man cat is sleeping in such a tight ball, and he's snorking and snoring. 😭

leaden galleon
sacred crane
#

less enemies = less cool stuff

strong gulch
#

Inferno scales with density.

It also is not frontloaded damage.

#

So 8s to kill an enemy vs just stabbing them once.

verbal thistle
#

I literally just had someone say zealot flamer is weak in zel chat

#

Probably for same reasons

#

Speaking of

sacred crane
#

inferno is basically you kill enemies over a few seconds, but able to do that to many, many enemies

verbal thistle
#

I wonder what's the damage difference between flamer and purg are

sacred crane
#

the only thing inferno is weak against is crushers

verbal thistle
#

I'd quickly guess flamer is stronger but has ammo downside

mental rock
#

Yeah flamer is generally stronger, longer range too but limited by ammo

#

And flamer pens bulwark shields

strong gulch
#

Ye. idk the numbers off the top of my head but flamer is more raw damage.

sacred crane
strong gulch
#

The DoT decays faster iirc.

sacred crane
#

you have yummy red fire
or yummy blu fire

strong gulch
#

Doesn't technically pen shields, but fingies and toes stick out.

#

So the whole bulwarks burns.

#

funny

sacred crane
#

guh

mental rock
#

I've heard inferno does more direct damage than flamer though

#

And I think the left click is just generally better because it's faster to switch to

sacred crane
sacred crane
mental rock
#

I was talking about the non-dot damage specifically

#

Flamer does generally more damage yes

plucky flax
#

Is this only range damage? So it's worthless with needle pistol?

verbal thistle
#

check kuli guide

plucky flax
#

Where is it?

ripe obsidian
#

Replenish +8% Toughness on Ranged Kill. Elites and Specials instead replenish +15% Toughness.

function: recover_percentage_toughness

Killing an elite or special who is within 12.5m to Hive Scum with a ranged attack (including Boom Bringer projectile hit) replenishes 15% of maximum toughness; killing any other enemy within 12.5m with a ranged attack replenishes 8% of maximum toughness instead. Can proc multiple times per shot when cleaving. Procs additionally to weapon blessings like Born in Blood, Gloryhunter, and Inspiring Barrage. The effectiveness of this toughness replenishment is affected by certain player debuffs like toxic gas.

verbal thistle
#

in pins

plucky flax
#

That description looks like no from range toxin.

deft stump
#

XD

pale prairie
#

Git gud

strong gulch
#

no u

pale prairie
#

NO U

strong gulch
#

Did flanders turn out to kill people??

pale prairie
#

there was an episode i think

#

I think it was a halloween special

strong gulch
#

kk

#

at least the show acknowledges the vibe

tulip kettle
strong gulch
#

morning dom

#

I forgot to say so earlier.

tulip kettle
#

ello :)

hollow summit
#

I feel that playing very durable classes have made me incompetent at judging when to close for melee

patent jacinth
#

The answer is always

hollow summit
#

And then I get shot to death

strong gulch
#

If you can record your gameplay, that can be helpful in seeing what you did wrong.

#

Likewise, you can watch watch other people's videos on how they tackle stuff with a similar kit to yours.

hollow summit
#

Not sure I can since geforce now

#

Welp

#

I'm just playing safer

strong gulch
#

There are also mods that can set up trials.

#

Doesn't geforce have recording??

patent jacinth
hollow summit
#

I don't even know where it saves since the gameplay is streamed to my pc

hollow summit
ripe obsidian
#

Tried Surge Surge + Obscurus on a low 30s Havoc.

#

Went pretty well.

#

I did blow myself up by shooting a silent burster, but

strong gulch
#

You can apparently record with geforce now.

#

Can also do with steam.

strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

Obscurus felt great against bosses

#

Felt slightly risky against crushers

#

The H1 was pretty reliable for specials and lesser elites

hollow summit
#

Still dunno where it goes, will have to find it

strong gulch
#

ye

strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

84% crit rate on the zapstick is stupid

strong gulch
#

Makes me want to try again, but I can't get the horde combo because alternating lights and heavies is too hard.

ripe obsidian
#

The horde clear does feel pretty bad overall

#

I mostly wanted my team to do that

strong gulch
#

I wonder how assail would have felt vs KF.

ripe obsidian
#

I walked at enemies menacingly and was immune to ranged damage

#

Well, I think KF was worse with Surge Surge before they fixed it

strong gulch
#

ye

ripe obsidian
#

Now it properly goes off at 100% peril

#

But I also think Assail would be quite good for supplementary horde clear

#

And you can use the spare point from KF to get, like, Warp Splitting

strong gulch
#

for sure

ripe obsidian
#

Lemme screw with the pathing a little bit

#

Is not actually particularly viable to get WS, actually

#

Could maybe drop Immaterial Focus?

#

Something like this

strong gulch
#

hmm sad

#

wonder what dom does

tulip kettle
#

1 sec

#

i have started using assail on surge surge

#

was making soup

ripe obsidian
#

What kind of soup?

tulip kettle
#

brocolli and cheddar

#

its six coloured

ripe obsidian
#

Yum

strong gulch
#

yum

verbal thistle
#

no EE, creeping flames and soulstealer

#

look at my toughness

ripe obsidian
#

Just a little toughness regen

#

Teeny bit

tulip kettle
#

this is what i have been running, with DS for crushers and mobility

#

i dont massively like the loss of ES

#

but i really wanted to find a way to afford MM, warp splitting and ethereal shards

#

this is also for games without an inferno psyker necessarily

ripe obsidian
#

Yeah, Souldrinker becomes a tax to reach ES without some source of fire

#

I tried picking PC, but it did basically nothing

tulip kettle
#

my experience was also

#

ES doesnt really do to much

#

against crushers you just tickle them with the EK either way

#

and everything else dies in 1 or 2 hits when at high DD stacks

#

meanwhile i can blep a couple poxers with DS and get MM

strong gulch
#

If only ES was a buff instead of a debuff.

tulip kettle
#

exactly

#

and with this version assail + ds is very good horde clear

strong gulch
#

EK isn't the most fully charge RMB staff too. Not to the degree inferno is, but still.

ripe obsidian
#

I might try dropping ES and using Shriek for horde clear. More quelling, but

tulip kettle
#

i think if you were better at clicking on heads than me you would take precog on SG instead of anchor

#

i think shriek is fine, but then

#

i wouldnt run assail at all

#

and would stick with BB KF and probably take drinker

ripe obsidian
#

Well, yes. This would be a KF + Shriek build

#

I need a charge rate dumped EK

tulip kettle
#

thing is i found that with this build i had solid tools for everything but got to keep a mobility weapon

#

wheras with the normal build it kinda needed FGS

#

also, MM is just such a strong buff

#

and ethereal + splitting is really, really good

ripe obsidian
#

MM is very strong. I just forget to re-up it too much

tulip kettle
#

i mean i also think

#

if youre willing to just spam the EK into hordes you dont necessarily need it

#

but i got sick of doing that very quickly

strong gulch
#

You can use MM to buff your melee for when your need it.

ripe obsidian
#

A good point

strong gulch
#

Not the best use of MM, but also it's still doing something.

ripe obsidian
#

I am down to 18m dockets from like 23m. Too much gambling

strong gulch
#

more

tulip kettle
#

its a very good use

#

and is always in effect basically

strong gulch
#

I'm up to 20k melks from 0. KEKW_ogryn

ripe obsidian
#

I've seen tons of Scum players rocking the d claw

#

Tons being... like 5-6

strong gulch
#

Bet it's funny.

#

I'd probably be bad with it.

#

Ok. Bed time.

tulip kettle
#

gnight beans :)

#

quick 17 min auric with the surge surge i posted

#

it feels a lot like playing weapon specialist but with 3 things to swap between instead of 2

ripe obsidian
#

I am not doubting that it works

#

I just doubt my own ability to maintain buffs

tulip kettle
#

oh i know i was just saying that the dmg output is actually kinda insane

#

the MM on melee feels great and is always active

#

and when horde clearing its just a case of remembering to actually hit a few dudes with the sword first before assail spam

ripe obsidian
#

MM is a pretty fantastic node.

#

Psyker's version of Agile Engagement

#

I do wish Channeled Force were less bad.

queen radish
#

Anybody wanna play? I’m leveling my Psyker - lvl 17 atm

errant karma
#

how does the Peril of the Warp actually work?
do you just die if you stay at 100 too long or wot?

#

it seems really unthreatening
just like
hit R???

verbal thistle
#

Yes

errant karma
#

bruh

verbal thistle
#

You only explode if you at 100% then add more warp

#

Getting to 100% is harmless

jovial juniper
#

100% is good
101% isn't

viscid matrix
#

Living between 80 and 100 is the sweet spot

zealous wing
#

however get into intense combat and you might learn why its not always so simple

#

or even lack thereof

#

i explode much more when theres too few enemies for my crutch (shriek) to come back kekw

marble crater
#

Almost exploded 5 times yesterday because the game kept eating my input

zealous wing
#

i had to hit shriek 5 or 6 times at some points to actually get a shriek

cedar pine
#

Hear me out

#

Smite, but not shit

#

Delusion 100%

zealous wing
#

make it a 0 - 100% cost and a large single pulse AOE then you might have something

zealous wing
#

we've had this talk before here kekw

#

0 days since smite mention

cedar pine
#

I do believe I was a part of it on the old account

zealous wing
#

perhaps

marble crater
#

Played with a smyker yesterday, somehow I still couldn't carry cells without getting hit

deft stump
wraith sphinx
#

They are almost always locked in on the palpatine power fantasy, if they actually use smite tactically to help the team it's either a miracle or you're playing with me

potent echo
#

i just tried police with smg

#

its pretty fun

#

maniac damage is actually crazy

marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
#

They were pretty new KEKW_ogryn at least the other two did well

deft stump
#

New and using smite... Sighs.

hollow summit
#

im just here zapping people with ek

deft stump
hollow summit
#

Yeh

wraith sphinx
#

I'm going to go play smite psyker right now :3

night marten
#

Why blame newer players for experimenting with the toys fatshark gives them. Better to complain at fatshark that the toy isnt good enough

marble crater
#

I don't comment on it during the mission or do anything to punish them for playing it, so it's fine to share here afterwards to "vent" KEKW_ogryn

wraith sphinx
deft stump
wraith walrus
#

Last time I visited this discord it was just people complaining about smite too

deft stump
#

They get backstabbed and die in a corner somehow.

icy breach
deft stump
wraith walrus
icy breach
wraith walrus
icy breach
#

i know from experience

#
  • not every boss too; some you can to a degree ignore while smiting
deft stump
#

Also, if you just keep smiting hordes, that's on you.

#

People move when there's space to.

icy breach
wraith walrus
icy breach
wraith walrus
#

Smiting hordes is like, the best way to clear a horde in under 6 seconds

hardy citrus
#

which force greatsword mark is best?

wraith sphinx
#

Man I just lmb smite when I see someone about to get pounced from the back and stuff

wraith walrus
#

Esp. mixed hordes with ragers and stuff

icy breach
wraith sphinx
#

or rmb smite when someone's in a bad position and about to lose health

deft stump
wraith sphinx
#

just now I managed to perfectly time a smite to prevent a hivescum from losing hp to mutant slams

#

it was awesome

icy breach
deft stump
icy breach
wraith walrus
#

Almost as obnoxious as knife zealot or shiv scummer

deft stump
#

Bonus, they don't even pause it when they need to.

#

See minigames/batteries.

wraith walrus
#

I had a pub the other day where I basically just stood near my smiteker as zealot while they killed the whole map. I only killed the few plebs that somehow didn't get caught in the smite and crushers went down with 1 heavy overhead

#

The other 2 teammates had to be respawned at least once each because they would run off

queen radish
#

What's the Psyker melee meta weapons atm?

inland ice
summer prairie
#

I don't care about meta but fgs is generally the best for actual melee

acoustic jacinth
#

Deflector + uncanny deimos force sword is quite safe for carapace ans gunners

#

Helpful in havoc

#

Obscurus has better TTK but no knockback

wraith walrus
acoustic jacinth
queen radish
#

FGS?

acoustic jacinth
#

Force greatsword

queen radish
#

Takes notes

acoustic jacinth
#

Deimos is a force sword mk

queen radish
#

Dueling sword is no more?

acoustic jacinth
wraith walrus
acoustic jacinth
#

Duelling sword has better mobility but worse than force sword utility wise

#

Many, many psykers prefer force weapons

wraith walrus
#

I can't not take deflector at this point. Turn your paper tiger into just regular tiger with complete immunity to gunfire and melee and demonhosts

wraith sphinx
#

I can't use deflector and haven't used it in over a year

#

either I forget about it or start treating every other weapon like it has deflector, it messes me up too much

marble crater
#

The trick is not to play other weapons

white sky
#

I'm not playing to moonlight greatsword class to not use moonlight greatsword.

#

Simple as, really.

marble crater
#

Moonlight greatsword also has deflector thankfully

wraith sphinx
#

Switching up weapons is fun though

#

esp on gun psyker

#

I can't just use one thing all the time

white sky
#

Tbh FGS is why I picked up psyker again.

queen radish
#

FS/FGS has extra length?

deft stump
queen radish
#

Damn? That's fucking sick lol

deft stump
#

Is obvious if you used knoife.

#

Don't need to hug something to hit it.

radiant frigate
#

it's peak

queen radish
#

Gonna hop in game and fuck things up then

grim tree
#

enjoying bubble knight but feel like im still dependent on my teammates beyond what id like; is there any other psyker setups youd reccomend with more carry potential? I feel like carapace clear is the big issue

thorn cedar
#

Yeah that's universal. Especially for Psyker.

white willow
#

hi I build this build with your helps but I guess I am not that good. In damnation sometimes game feels is easy and sometimes really hard.
when I playing with venting shriek its become a little bit easier but I feel like I become more of a glass cannon
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0a5b21c-0f32-4e73-ae1a-92f63f35013e/akaelos (my one curio have 16 percent toughness other than that everything maxed out)
Most of the time I feel like random players run like mad man and agro everything (daemonhost) I need to play too carefully. also they are not sharing stims, ammo and medical stations

my downside is I am not that good about dodging bombers and daemonhost and I cant use effiecently the blaze sword and deflector.(also The other random players I've seen can't dodge the bomber.)

thorn cedar
#

I recommend pointing at their chest and saying "What's that?" and then when they look down you flick their nose with your index finger. Then again some of their noses have rotted off so maybe lower your expectations.

white willow
# dull scroll https://youtube.com/shorts/Wr9kmeaKVfk

"Very observant of you to notice. The force push triggers Uncanny Strike blessing from the sword causing carapace enemies like Crushers that normally only take 5% warpfire damage to take massive 100% instead at 5 stacks.
That small tick of damage from the force push hits the entire body so you don't have to specifically aim at an enemy's weakspot in order to trigger Uncanny; so long as the push connects it will do." wow is that true

dull scroll
#

yes

white willow
#

thats really a gamechanger for me

#

I was trying to headshot boss with deimos KEKW_ogryn

grim tree
dull scroll
alpine jackal
zinc phoenix
mental mulch
zinc phoenix
mental mulch
#

But how do you make smite do actual damage

#

And not just tickle taze everything

deft stump
mental mulch
#

What, im supposed to use fire with smite? And shriek instead of bubble shield?

marsh badger
#

as a staunch shield supporter of both flavors, EP-smite is one of the least shield friendly builds bc you give up so much compared to either shriek or SG-WU

acoustic jacinth
mental mulch
#

Well thats fine, Im a support main anyway

nova dirge
mental mulch
#

So I run smite with shield and ws

deft stump
#

And as they die, they pass the burns to those still alive...

#

So they burn even more.

#

And more when the elites start dying as well.

mental mulch
#

I prefer brainblast with my burn

#

Random elite pops is funny

wraith walrus
#

Do not run fire shriek+smite it's unfortunately a meme

deft stump
leaden galleon
#

ok
what am I doing wrong here
why is psycher so frustrating to play

wraith walrus
#

Your build is bad

#

Next question

marble crater
#

Leveling psyker is pain because staves are bad at low levels

deft stump
white willow
mental mulch
#

I dunno, I had a pretty good time with staves

verbal thistle
# leaden galleon ok what am I doing wrong here why is psycher so frustrating to play

Psyker is probably the hardest class to level/learn with since they dont have their good talents until later + their unique weapons scales with those talents so they also suffer. Psyker also neds to learn a class mechanic so for newer players to the game learning 2 mechanics (peril and basic game stuff) its overwhelming and often leads newer players to fail

leaden galleon
#

its the hardest to level up by far

verbal thistle
#

Are you using assail?

leaden galleon
#

i am

#

ig ill just keep playing uprising until I reach 30

verbal thistle
#

Keep looking to learn the game and class. It will be rough since information is spread out and sometimes arent true. But keep playing ans ask questions

#

some people learn with videos, so if this is you maybe watching some higher skilled playing psyker will help

grim tree
deft stump
#

Cornered? Dodge through horde.

#

Everyone else stuck without strong knockbacks.

#

Or really REALLY good horde clear.

leaden galleon
#

every time

#

im the one doing everything

#

while my teammates are dead 75% of the game

#

and psycher just cant do that

#

it was fine with the other classes

deft stump
leaden galleon
deft stump
#

Psyker is really hard to clutch with if you aren't basically the best.

deft stump
leaden galleon
#

damnation is where it gets better really

deft stump
#

Cos I can solo malice, but heresy gets spicier.

leaden galleon
#

where players don't suck

deft stump
#

You still get ppl who clearly got carried out of heresy.

leaden galleon
#

Anyways
I don't think I'll make it past 20 in psycher without rage uninstalling the game.

deft stump
#

It if gets too stressful, play something more chill.

acoustic jacinth
# leaden galleon damnation is where it gets better really

Damnation is 90% either a. Trying to escape heresy or b. Trying to get used to damnation conditions type of players which is why it's not the best. That being said it's perfectly fine (if not boring) to chill on for the experienced player

#

You'll find better players in hi intens shock troop auric or auric mael

leaden galleon
#

you know
coming from hundreds of hours in vermintide I must say that fatshark really upped the difficulty here.
cause even cataclysm doesn't get as intense as some of the difficulties here

#

I think part of it is that few new players play vermintide

radiant frigate
leaden galleon
#

havoc

radiant frigate
#

cause havoc is a little silly but any of the normal difficulties i would have to disagree with

acoustic jacinth
#

I've only got like 100 hours in vt2, but in those hours i did climb to legend quickly and now i can comfortably solo it with my bots. I could not, however, solo damnation with bots at 100 hours in DT. That being said, DT was my first tide game so take that as you will

#

One thing thats for sure

#

DT buildcrafting took me far longer to grasp

leaden thunder
#

the VT2 bots are also more compentent at the game which helps

acoustic jacinth
#

Also this is not shit talking either

#

I dont compare games i love

leaden thunder
#

though I am pretty sure they are the same bots actually

#

thats why the DT ones are so bad

leaden thunder
deft stump
#

I swear if they had scaled gear and proper builds...

leaden thunder
#

VT2 bots didn't have to deal with ranged like at all, and when they did didn't do well

deft stump
#

They are using basically your starter greys.

leaden thunder
acoustic jacinth
leaden thunder
#

i've seen people do modded runs with proper geared bots

vast yew
leaden galleon
#

also
4 players of the same class can play here
which in vermintide would be funny
4 ironbreakers would be impossible to kill lol

acoustic jacinth
#

4 BW siennas would crash the game

grim tree
#

i enjoy pskyer gameplay alot, frustrating when bubble knight cant clear enough and teammates ar ebeing dumb. Then some scum games they just somehow clear everything in seconds with no damage taken

acoustic jacinth
#

I mean, 1 BW sienna with lingerstorm build does that already KEKW_ogryn

leaden thunder
#

they actually carve through a melee reasonably well with proper gear, but as soon as a boss shows up or a group of shooters appear they folded iirc

acoustic jacinth
grim tree
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just auric maelstroms with bad RNG and the crushers maulers start stacking mix in horde

leaden galleon
deft stump
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Just copypasta.

leaden thunder
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yep

deft stump
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Good enough to fill.

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While a real player loads in and what not.

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They should still get proper gear though, not all servers even have players.

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Like, I can bet you if I play rn on the closest server to me, it would just be a solo.

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At best, 1 other.

queen radish
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When do they become good

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staffs

vast yew
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I'd say like... 400 rating?

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It really depends on the staff

patent jacinth
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Purgatus is just always good

ripe obsidian
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You're always good! >:(

deft stump
patent jacinth
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That really doesn't matter while leveling

leaden thunder
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dumping burn to make the weapon more balanced chadgryn

wraith sphinx
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with maybe the exception of not using a damage dumped weapon the stats really do not matter until you reach auric

deft stump
patent jacinth
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Ok

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Still doesn't matter

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Ita borderline impossible to roll and purgatus is just that good

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And if you're leveling you are going to get a new one anyway