psyker-class

[mental mulch]

My smite build uses shield

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[chrome linden]

if you using electric, use shield

if fire, use brainblast

[zealous wing]

but have you heard of our lord and saviour bubbleknight

[jovial juniper]

Consider Shriek or Scriers instead

[weary crane]

Also nearly everyone I see don't charge while sliding

[chrome linden]

every 7 seconds an elite or specialit blows up and its funny

vneting shiek supremacy

makes for infinite peril loop

[mental mulch]

What is this, uprising?

Yeah, I use shriek with brain blast for sure

And fire

Random elites popping is hilarious

[chrome linden]

just obj the best

its the best of both worlds

do you kill chaff or priority targets?

psyker: "YES"

[mental mulch]

And I use scriers with a melee build

[ripe obsidian]

Havoc, probably. Ainz doesn't play non-Havoc.

[mental mulch]

lol

Anyone who complains about smite clearly doesnt play any higher than uprising XD

[ripe obsidian]

Uh.

That's a take.

I play almost exclusively H40 and I hate having a Smyker on my team.

Ainz as well.

And myriad other people in here.

[mental mulch]

Y'all probably complain about using gas passer in MvM too!

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know what that is.

[mental mulch]

Damn, someone who doesnt know what tf2 is?

[marble crater]

Smite sucks, delete it from the game

[ripe obsidian]

But Smite is immensely strong in all but a few scenarios, and it is immensely boring. I want to be able to play the game, not hit crash test dummies.

[zealous wing]

ainz plays h40s, so, h40

[ripe obsidian]

I played TF2 like 15+ years ago. No idea what MvM is.

[austere warren]

Mann vs machine. Horde wave defense pve mode.

[ripe obsidian]

Ah, okay. Must be after my time

[mental mulch]

Yeah. And some people are bothered by people using gas passer because its very strong at the gamemode

just like smite

[ripe obsidian]

Smite is not efficient.

[marble crater]

Please stop

[austere warren]

Forgot what the gas passer is. Might be a pyro weapon.

[mental mulch]

Yeah

[jovial juniper]

Smite too strong
Makes game boring
Boring games are not worth playing

[ripe obsidian]

This is what I said, yes.

[jovial juniper]

[mental mulch]

Eh, if a mode is hard ill take anything I can get

I dont play high difficulty modes for fun

[jovial juniper]

I do

Nothing feels better than challenging the world while being at 1 hp

Makes me feel something

[ripe obsidian]

What a take. Why do you play high difficulty if not for fun?

Is fun not the point of video games?

[mental mulch]

Rewards, duh.

If I wanna have fun, I grab friends and play a mode that isnt for sweats

[ripe obsidian]

Well, quite a lot of people play H40 for fun. Your opinion isn't universal.

[mental mulch]

I know

Everyone got an opinion

Problem is when opinions cause people to harras others or smth

[marble crater]

Smykers aren't people, so they don't count thankfully

[mental mulch]

pshhh

Its not their fault that one of the best support abilities makes the game trivial at times

[austere warren]

I like higher difficulty since fatshark games have a lot of fun feedback when playing with everything spinning. These games aren't exactly a ballbust of a time. I got my first real hit way back with shade kerillian on a cataclysm clutch when i was newer to the game and finally hanging in cataclysm consistently where everything clicked real good and I played extra clean.

Kept enjoying fatshark games since.

[marble crater]

It's not about making the game trivial, it's about turning the game off

[mental mulch]

I mean, there are games where you mow down hordes of helpless mooks so I guess it can be funny too

[zealous wing]

esp when you WIN

[mental mulch]

And things do so damn much damage at higher difficulties anyway

[zealous wing]

dont get hit

if you do get hit, hit back

[ripe obsidian]

I got on a great H40 team last night. Won like 5 in a row

(Once I swapped off Zealot and back to Psyker)

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, I don't advocate for barreling Smykers. It's a funny gif, though. I mostly just avoid joining teams with them.

[mental mulch]

Yeah, its fine if you avoid em

Not fine if you kick them

[ripe obsidian]

The only time I have ever felt relieved to have a Smyker is fucking rotten armor + purple maps last season of Havoc, if I was on a team without proper armor clear.

I am of the belief that Smite needs a significant rework or even removal. But it's not going to happen.

Make it something that you can't hold down for 90% of a game.

[leaden thunder]

rework to have lower uptime but higher impact would be good

[austere warren]

I prefer riskier playstyles juat because. Smite can still work within it but I gotta be in the mood for it. Eventually, I get bored of smite and need to switch it up. Thankfully psyker is just a super layered class with how it can be built on top of it just being very strong rn anyway so...

I win either way.

[leaden thunder]

make it a blitz not a main weapon

[ripe obsidian]

Like, shock mines have 15 seconds of uptime per 90 seconds. Means you have to be more careful about usage and doesn't trivialize the game.

[austere warren]

Mines are also mines and not chain lightning mechanically so they're on very different levels.

[pine elk]

hello fellow space wizards, how is tonight

[ripe obsidian]

My dream is for Smite to be replaced with an ability like Cassia's forced movement in Rogue Trader. LMB to force enemies toward a point, RMB to force them away from a point.

[austere warren]

Can psykers sap bio-lightning?

[ripe obsidian]

I do not know

[austere warren]

A surge from right clicking would be cool. I'd like smite more if i could just mechanically play more with how i juice the current instead of just ramping it up purely by holding down.

Or unique interactions on enemies that have flak and carapace armor.

[ripe obsidian]

I wonder if it would be decent to have LMB stay the same and RMB be no CC but more damage or something

[austere warren]

Wish combining blitzes with staves was a thing relative to special attacks.

[pine elk]

enemies wearing conductive armour could like, you know, conduct it to other enemies with conductive armour

physics!

[austere warren]

For bonus damage on focused currents. You release them and instead of a push it's a discharging explosion similar to ek crit

[marble crater]

We need a conductor class

[jovial juniper]

It's really interesting that game has the 2 types of electric attack

[austere warren]

I still want assail to let me combine the shards into a bigger one with tighter control on the cursor guide. Or I throw a bigger one and burst it inside an enemy.

[jovial juniper]

The fuck you die electric attack
and the taser taser taser attack

https://tenor.com/view/kingelmer-elmer-king-gif-15902514535197178058

[mental mulch]

XD

What good is assail anyway?

I dunno

[zealous wing]

i dunno

[mental mulch]

That looks very specific! but neat

[jovial juniper]

A single carapace and that doesn't happen

Assail is very good
Just not when carapace is involved

Damage, stagger, range
It's all in there

[dull scroll]

if assail is good vs carapace there wouldn't be a game anymore 😏

[jovial juniper]

Good enough
Welcome back launch assail

[acoustic jacinth]

Assail is very good for certain builds which could use the quick handling of elite packs. EK/VS staff and meleeker see value from this

[austere warren]

Always been very solid. It has its subtle nuances of control which are fun and relevant enough to feel cool.

Aside from that it's a premiere tool for mopping up shooter squads while advancing, funny snipe rmb around cover with cursor control skills and plays extremely well into the right side of psyker broadly.

[acoustic jacinth]

Although you should take smite so i can make fun of you for it in chat

[jovial juniper]

You should take smite so I can be a conscious enabler

[pine elk]

my biggest complaint with assail is the fact that 90% of the time when i throw a shard it seems to wander off somewhere completely off target and bounce to death in a corner

[acoustic jacinth]

The gayer you are as a psyker the more your aim goes off

[dull scroll]

unless you specifically right click that thing is generally used for scale of econonmy just like inferno
if you need a special taken out fast pulling out the gun is the better option

[pine elk]

that
is not true

[acoustic jacinth]

Aah

[pine elk]

im not even gay

[acoustic jacinth]

Denial is not good sibling

Why can't you keep your assail straight then?

[pine elk]

im bisexual
that's like 50% gay

[acoustic jacinth]

Ok well it's normal to have a bit of a hard time then

[ripe obsidian]

We are all one in the rainbow clown car

[pine elk]

good way to put it

[marble crater]

Or are gay and straight 50% bi?

[jovial juniper]

Beloved why my gun won't shoot straight
Yes beloved I like them both
I don't get it beloved

[mental mulch]

Yes, I have a smite+shield build, make fun of me

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1pppzbs/new_votann_class_just_dropped/

[mental mulch]

Ogryn 2.0?

[pine elk]

squats leaked

[cedar delta]

[jovial juniper]

[cedar delta]

psyker needs a buff

[ripe obsidian]

Cat Midas, all he touches turns to kibble

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, Psyker too weak. Buff pls. Give SG 2 more paragraphs of buffs.

[strong gulch]

cashew stayed a cashew for this one

[ripe obsidian]

Hehehehehehehe

that second picture is 10/10

[quiet inlet]

Knew it! I was saying the new class was Votann all along

[ripe obsidian]

Also, black cats are best cats

[cedar delta]

agreed

[grim tree]

What build do yall like to utilize for auric maelstrom?

[cedar delta]

melee psyker

[wraith sphinx]

Too many to count

[ripe obsidian]

I like Voidstrike + Shriek for Auric

[grim tree]

with scriers?

[cedar delta]

yep

[ripe obsidian]

Good beasts

My void is sitting on the decoy chair next to me

[grim tree]

decoy chair - a classic void keeper move

[ripe obsidian]

It is necessary if I want to sit at my computer

[main crow]

My void likes spinach

[chrome linden]

heres my 3 free loaders

midas: king od the cheese
salem of the void
and baby girl mittens

[verbal thistle]

She gets to watch fnaf

[chrome linden]

salem watches me game since whe was iddy bitty

she still wears her harness now and then, but i dont like her getting caught on things so i dont make her wear it anymore

[main crow]

Smol cat, PS5 for scale.

[grim tree]

what graphics mods do yall use for like getting UI centered to make it easier to track status effects

[keen cargo]

should i get the helmet ?

[jovial juniper]

You got that shit on

[keen cargo]

i'm inspecting it lol

with the preview function

i'm really hesitating to get it or else i just got the regular one i had with the set

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-revice-kamen-rider-igarashi-genta-george-karizaki-kadota-hiromi-gif-5168420953691366391

[mental mulch]

How about a team of 4 smykers?

[zealous wing]

i would

[jovial juniper]

1 boss and the run is over

[strong gulch]

IDK if mine does, they seems to like all of the plants and lettuce tho. I grow them grass.

[main crow]

Mine doesn’t like lettuce, only spinach.

He’s picky

[ripe obsidian]

Not my cat, but an amusing image nonetheless

[hardy citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[mental mulch]

Thats one shotgun dork

[thin knoll]

Hello siblings. Can Smite Crit?

[chrome linden]

which blaze force sword iz beast?

[thin knoll]

Demos imo

Deimos*

[chrome linden]

dominos?

[ripe obsidian]

No.

[thin knoll]

You mean the regular force swords or the greatswords?

[chrome linden]

regular

[ripe obsidian]

Obscurus if you're good at it. Deimos if you're less skilled. Never Illisi.

[chrome linden]

the ones with blocking ranged BS

[chrome linden]

DEFINE GOOD AT IT

caps was on, ssorry

[ripe obsidian]

Obscurus has a higher skill floor and ceiling. Gotta get good at the combos and aiming.

Deimos does less damage but has an attack that knocks over crushers.

Obscurus also has better horde clear than Deimos.

Not good horde clear. Just better.

[thin knoll]

I didn't know Obscurus was in rn. The thrusts on deimos are so juicy. I only use it on flame psyker so I usually only use it for single target.

[chrome linden]

what iz combo then?

[ripe obsidian]

HLL for single target, I think LH for hordes.

But it's super easy to miss headshots on the light hits.

I think the second L in the combo is an uppercut that loves to hit torsos instead of heads

[ripe obsidian]

I use Deimos as well. The heavy poke is just so safe.

[wind spruce]

Plus obscurus is based and deimos is for people who don't like pepper because it's "too spicy"

[dull scroll]

Ob is definitly in, especially in H40s
The biggest downside of deimo by comparison is you can't one shot specials in 40s

auric though deimo light poke can one shot, so it owns there

[thin knoll]

Yeah I'm not a high havoc player. I will experiment with the obscurus soon. Are you using the special attack at all?

[dull scroll]

no lol, nobody uses specials on any of the forceswords

for any occasion

[mental mulch]

How so

[thin knoll]

Yeah, the deimos poke doesn't need it. It seems like it's not worth it dps wise

[dull scroll]

because the damage from normal combos equal or exceed the specials

in time to kill

[thin knoll]

I thought it was ok on illsi for cleave, but no one uses illusion anyway

[dull scroll]

okay, illsi is different

[thin knoll]

Illsi*

[dull scroll]

but then again no one uses that sword

[wind spruce]

illisi*

[orchid shadow]

Huh.. what the heck is a Scab Radio Operator?

[thin knoll]

I remember really wanting to use it with that fire blessing. Didn't seem worth it.

[mental mulch]

Its a scab with a radio, duh.

[thin knoll]

It was for an event

[dull scroll]

the soulfire on crit is a very cool concept, but the way it is now in practice it's the worst blessing 😒

they need to do something about it

[ripe obsidian]

I often one-bop specials in H40

[thin knoll]

Add it to the long list

[dull scroll]

with deimos in 40?

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz uses the special on Obscurus for captains and mutants, I believe.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[orchid shadow]

Really? Which event was that?

[dull scroll]

no way, unless you got some blessing

that increased its damage

even with h1 that thing can't one shot dogs

[thin knoll]

What?

H40 sounds insane

[strong gulch]

============================

[thin knoll]

You can't one shot a dog with the deimos?

[dull scroll]

yeah that's h2

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, hold on.

[dull scroll]

the god demios h2 rekts everything

[thin knoll]

You use h1 on deimos? Just double stab everything.

[mental mulch]

I tend to use greatsword special because it has more range than my flame staff lol

[dull scroll]

you have to cancel an attack to get to h2, that's an issue in situations where split seconds count like kiting during clutch

which is why most ppl use obscurus

[thin knoll]

Fair enough

[dull scroll]

is that superiority 😏

[ripe obsidian]

I can use one without superiority

[dull scroll]

and turn off PC too

so it's clear cut

[ripe obsidian]

I did turn off PC

It was not active in that last video

[dull scroll]

...

bro, they are burning

[ripe obsidian]

oh, oops

I meant KF

brainfart

[thin knoll]

So what are the meta weapons for high havoc? Obscurus and Dueling sword?

[dull scroll]

for those in the know it's Obscurus

but overall you have 3 metas

the 2 forceswords, ds, and knife

[wet belfry]

Infernus

[thin knoll]

Knife? Why? Other than it feels really good to stab with

[dull scroll]

speed, speed is king in this game at higher lvls of play

[thin knoll]

Oh yeah, for movement

I've seen them

[wet belfry]

The meta psyker build doesn’t run melee damage buffs so melee weapons becomes more of a secondary weapon.

Melee weapons instead get used to deal with the odd elite or special and for safety.

[inland ice]

how 2 do bleed psyker w fgs

[verbal thistle]

bolt pistol

swap to it with puncture

[tacit stump]

looks at the weird hook force aword

[ornate hamlet]

Why oh why do I always come back to psyker inferno, bb, shout, warp

[mental mulch]

Cause it works

[marble crater]

Am I a pro gamer yet?

[dull scroll]

5 stacks of perfect timing is indeed very pro

[zinc phoenix]

True truths

[quaint lark]

[zealous wing]

correction, i WILL use the deimos special on the stim canisters in warren because its satisfying. and you cannot stop me!

[dull scroll]

I also like to smite and convert smykers

nobody can stop me either 😏

[hollow summit]

If I go fgs melee psyker i should take assail and sg?

And the right purple talent?

[white sky]

fun fact, the comic in that is about zoo animals during the invasion of iraq

Pride of Baghdad

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

That makes me sad.

[white sky]

Me too buddy

[hollow summit]

Ok den, guess im skipping warp res

Whatever it's called, empyric resolve?

[strong gulch]

Assail SG FGS are pretty much committed to the right side. No need for ER

path to DD not warp siphon

[ripe obsidian]

Here I thought that comic was, like, Sandman or some other dark, fictional thing.

[hollow summit]

DD?

[ripe obsidian]

The rightmost keystone

[wraith sphinx]

Disrupt destiny

[hollow summit]

Ah

Yeah

More stacks or stack duration 🤔

[white sky]

It's worth reading imo

[hollow summit]

Probably stack duration since im still loitering around heresy difficulty

[wraith sphinx]

Yes

Once you reach auric more stacks becomes better

Just avoid using that upgrade without cruel fortune

[hollow summit]

K

[strong gulch]

You can do lingering on it's own or perfection ism + cruel fortune for DD.

[hollow summit]

Should I take crit aura actually

[strong gulch]

But also keep in mind that density, modifiers, if you team lingers in elevators or airlocks, and how good you are at getting to your targets will affect you maintaining stacks.

crit aura into psyka aura

build in the pins

[hollow summit]

Oh ok thanks

[strong gulch]

there's reasons why to take this or that

[ripe obsidian]

Yay, reasons

[mental mulch]

Greatsword can be slapped with a pretty big crit bonus blessing

[plucky flax]

Nice controller gaming.

[eager knoll]

knife psyker got vk'd in 20 seconds 💔

gawk troop atonement

they initiated vk before the game even started but i let him spawn in for a little while before voting yes on the second round

[potent echo]

What if force greatsword also generated charges with blocks

[grim tree]

any good bubble firestaff builds a chad can throw my way?

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/check-pin-discord-check-pin-gif-1835998338632614419

[plucky flax]

Real chad would use bubble knight not bubble burga

[marsh badger]

EP-bb is the chadest fire staff build

[grim tree]

oh yes

[zinc phoenix]

You can pop heads with force sword block

If you have KF

It’s pretty fun

[potent echo]

Huhge

[eager knoll]

what if it was even more amazing than it was already

[potent echo]

Yes

It came to me in a dream

[leaden wind]

Holy shit i didn’t know that that’s crazy

[ripe obsidian]

I just updated that particular build today.

[ripe obsidian]

It does 1 damage. Before they exempted poxbursters, it was fun to gamble on pushes.

[hollow summit]

Push the pox burster, 2 teammates downed and 1 flies off the ledge

As fatshark intended

[verbal thistle]

something like this?

[hollow summit]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

This comic speaks to me.

[cloud lichen]

could i get some opions on my psyker build

[wispy bay]

Yes

[cloud lichen]

nvm it reset for some reason

[zealous wing]

rip

[ripe obsidian]

holy moly, Auric players are both bad and salty

I tried to run a quick trench map to get my last weekly win

One guy ignored healing and died in the next room

Another guy facetanked 3 snipers then raged in chat for like a full minute until they ragequit

[restive slate]

Is Kinetic Flayer good to take in a Voidstrike build?

[ripe obsidian]

It's fine. Not as good as Assail, but not bad.

[wispy bay]

People get down in the 1st 3 waves of auric mortis... then keep asking for heal.

I'm tired of dropping heal for them to die again... then Im left without resources.

[wraith sphinx]

Ragequitting is the good outcome lol. Worse is when they stay dead to talk shit to you in chat

[ripe obsidian]

well, the person who replaced them pushed a poxburster into me, killed us both, then quit immediately

and game over

[wraith sphinx]

Real...

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. And the bot that replaced them decided chasing a lone poxwalker was more important than reviving me.

So pretty accurate to a pub experience

[wispy bay]

And yet, so many times bot in auric is better than players.

[ripe obsidian]

I miss VT2 bots

Especially with the better AI mod

[modest perch]

i never thought i could hate a gun psyker but i ran into one that shot every barrel and burster and insulted the entire team

average pub is too stupid to figure out how to respond to a votekick so we were stuck with this asshole

i havent wished cancer on someone from a game in a while but im currently wishing cancer on this guy

[modest trellis]

Just leave the mission, no?

[modest perch]

uhh im not the problem ?

[strong gulch]

Some of the time the vote kick button doesn't actually work.

The yes or no

[modest perch]

i wouldnt know ive only used it to kick afks a couple of times

[wispy bay]

You spent 20min into a mission... quitting it is a waste...

[modest trellis]

Personally I wouldn't continue playing with a person like that

[modest perch]

besides i wanted to make sure i ate every last bit of ammo

was pretty funny to watch this idiot fold the moment he didnt have his laser pointer

[wraith sphinx]

Sunk cost fallacy

[ripe obsidian]

Countertrolling. I approve.

[ripe obsidian]

Another benefit of high havoc over Auric. Significantly less rage, significantly less trolling, and significantly less quitting.

[modest trellis]

I agree

[ripe obsidian]

I hate that Auric Storm Survivor started a culture of quitting in Auric games.

[potent echo]

Let him die

[modest trellis]

When I did that penance I had no idea quitting doesn't reset it

Which is stupid btw

Tbf I did it with release arbites

[ripe obsidian]

I did it before that change happened

Did it on Vet, of all classes. For some reason I was best at Vet back then.

Went Zealot to Vet to Psyker and stayed here.

Now Vet is probably my 2nd worst.

Psyker > Arby > maybe Scum > Zealot > Vet > Oggy

[modest perch]

i started on zealot day 1 n now its probably my worst

not counting scum cus its been out for like 3 minutes

[ripe obsidian]

Scum is also OP

[modest perch]

its has one good build

[ripe obsidian]

Disagree.

[modest perch]

that instantly crumbles when its out of ammo

[ripe obsidian]

Again, disagree.

[modest perch]

such a gross n poorly designed class

[ripe obsidian]

And if you run out of ammo on Scum, you have messed up

Fuckin' unlimited ammo class

[modest perch]

rather have bamboo shoved under my fingernails than melee on it

yea that one build

[ripe obsidian]

Melee scum is way more fun imo

[modest perch]

its what gunlugger wishes it was

melee scum could be fun

if it had options

[ripe obsidian]

I have had 1 gunscum in H40. Mostly been stimm supply melee scum players. Most have been good.

[modest perch]

crowbar is completely gutless

[deft stump]

That bugger hits as hard or harder than a meleeker.

[modest perch]

stabbing 30x per second =! harder

like oh yippi i get a buff for a few seconds

n then a crippling debuff

[potent echo]

How does crowbar feel against reds

[modest perch]

i love not being able to run or block as "melee" class

[potent echo]

No stagger on the crowing

[ripe obsidian]

Crowbar is not a fun weapon imo.

[modest perch]

id rather sit on that crowbar than use it

thats how worthless it is

[potent echo]

It's like reskinned shovel... I guess?

[ripe obsidian]

Bonesaw is... almost very fun. Shivs are maybe my favorite melee weapon in the game. I am become blender.

[modest perch]

id rather deep fry the bonesaw and eat it than use it

shivs are indeed stupid silly fun

[ripe obsidian]

It has 0.2 Flak ADMs and awful cleave. The bonesaw, I mean

[potent echo]

I need to get used to the tiny ass range though

[modest perch]

lol same

[ripe obsidian]

Which is very bad for a toxin spread weapon

[potent echo]

On the shivs

[modest perch]

ive been running knife on vet n the lack of range fucks with me

like u gotta be right up in a crushers nuts to hit em

[potent echo]

Crusher nuts

[ripe obsidian]

Slide between the crusher's legs

Be like a honey badger emasculating a lion

[potent echo]

If only that was a feature

[modest perch]

[deft stump]

If only things took bonus damage there.

I swear things will die more/faster.

Keeps shooting that area.

[potent echo]

Didn't one patch have an ass weakspot

[ripe obsidian]

Speaking from a family member's experience, at least on people with external genitalia, those bits rot off first. So most Nurgle-afflicted are probably not super vulnerable there.

Family member got gangrene or something in military service. I don't know the specifics.

[modest trellis]

Holy shit just like Warhammer 40k

My favorite game

[deft stump]

Oh. I assume it's cos extremities.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. Probably something to do with blood flow. This is far outside my area of expertise

Anyway

Zealot is the class that often feels the most extraneous in many team comps.

[modest trellis]

Love me a chorus zealot

Or a competent person running shroud

[ripe obsidian]

Especially now that Scum's stimm supply counters Blight Spreads harder than beacon zealot

I prefer a competent Shroud Zealot lately.

Had an insanely good Relic + Shroud Zealot hardcarry the other day.

[deft stump]

Blight. You need either a beacon zealot or a supply ganger.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

Supply ganger is better

[wispy bay]

Crowbar is heavily reliance to impact and attack speed to accumulate it.

[ripe obsidian]

I did say that in my next message

:(

[deft stump]

Good luck finding one on avg, most run desperado like most arby's run casti.

[ripe obsidian]

Uh

90% of scum I have played with run stimm supply

[deft stump]

Am slow at typing at times.

[ripe obsidian]

Even on non-blight maps

So maybe I have been lucky

[wispy bay]

It is 49/49 between desperado and stimm for me.

It is usually me running rampage.

[ripe obsidian]

Rampage: what if Scrier's Gaze had a debuff at the end?

It's like they looked at D&D's haste and just stole it

I like Rampage a lot.

It is very fun, and it is my preferred combat ability

But it is weird.

[wispy bay]

Rampage kills human mobs quite fast while you get positive duration regen on bigger targets.

[modest trellis]

I don't feel the debuff at the end at all tbh

I think people exaggerate how bad it is

[wispy bay]

Even if you hit bulwak shield, you regen duration.

I want to use it with bonesaw... but damn it doesn't work that great.

[deft stump]

I think is just bonesaw.

I just do no damage on it barring the ramping chem stacks.

And I think you are better off just shooting something 4 times at that point with the needler and getting a better horde clear melee.

[quartz barn]

Havent used the saw too much, but from what i could gather its the purple mode thats strong

You just cant get any real feedback from it however

[deft stump]

It just feels bad even on purple.

[quartz barn]

And ye green mode is pretty bad because you just do less dmg so that the toxin can exist

Even when its mostly for toxin uptime

[deft stump]

Feels bleah. Just use knoife or shivs for uptime.

[wispy bay]

It's brittle coating is ok and it apparently stacks with normal brittle.

Strong vs carapace, but overall still very meh vs mixed horde.

[dull scroll]

that saw feels really bad to use, if not for the guaranteed tox proc nobody would take it

[lusty compass]

a whole vibe really, frog respect

[modest perch]

even with that it still sucks. the dots dont even count towards flashbang/stim regen

[dull scroll]

there's no way, it for sure counts towards stim regen

[wispy bay]

It does count.

The thing is that you have to kill them with melee.

[summer prairie]

No

even tox grenade kills count

[modest perch]

so the dots dont count

[summer prairie]

They do

[modest perch]

it 100% does not count for flashbang regen

[dull scroll]

dein prob has the talent mixed up, the talent for toughness regen on tox that you have to kill by melee

[summer prairie]

right

but flashbang regen is different

[dull scroll]

the stim cd one you don't, even needle triggers it

[wispy bay]

You are right, I got mixed up.

[summer prairie]

nice cdr

[wispy bay]

But yeah, the cd is significantly faster if you use bonesaw.

It is the only build I have with 100% vicosity.

[summer prairie]

blackouts would be pretty ridiculous if you could regen them with the blitz toxin explosion

[modest perch]

its pretty weak that they dont

they dont even regen off regular melee properly

pretty easy to check in a mission with the kill tracker mod

[deft stump]

Bleed also an issue.

[summer prairie]

hyper critical kills don't count

[modest perch]

uggghhhhhhh

[deft stump]

Basically, is a gamble to get back a blinder. XD

[hollow summit]

When do I pop SG with a fgs build

Do I want as much peril as possible before hitting it or what

[wispy bay]

If you do a melee build, then just use it whenever you feel like it.

[deft stump]

If you accidentally bring it with a staff... use like vent then blaze a path. XD

[dull scroll]

pop gaze the moment you go in combat, the way it is now you pretty much have almost 100% gaze uptime anyways

[hollow summit]

Ok

Crit on sword? Or flak carapace

[dull scroll]

unyield carapace, only enemies with an hp pool large enough to fit the awesomeness of that sword 😌

[hollow summit]

Hmmmk

[quartz barn]

Scriers setup already has enough crit

[hollow summit]

Do I want warp rider?

[quartz barn]

Always

[hollow summit]

Not tried this shit so idk if I'll go too hard on passive quelling talents

[potent echo]

I usually just take crack

But I've seen people not even bother with crack

If you have the CD talent on elite kill it's like 100% uptime

[hollow summit]

Ye took that

[celest valve]

"just take crack"

[dull scroll]

no need for "the crack" 😏 when you have 100% uptime, also unfortunately gaze cd doesn't start until it's finished anyways

though some people really want the crit benefit and take it to sustain gaze

[jovial juniper]

This twitchy cracks bones

[zealous wing]

partially incorrect

if you skimp on PA then yeah, it doesnt start early

if you have pa tho....

[zinc phoenix]

A lot of this game would play a lot better if they removed infinite cleave and then cut down on enemy density

[wispy bay]

PA is better than crack

[modest perch]

cutting density in a horde shooter ...

[potent echo]

Is PA the middle bottom of the top cluster

[dull scroll]

you have to be trying to be shitty by skipping PA 😏

[wispy bay]

This is so much they can do to make the game harder without making everything damage sponges.

[potent echo]

I like the crusher health buff, as long as I'm not using the bolter lol

[zinc phoenix]

Im fine with that, I just can’t stand the meatwalls that inevitably form in high diff games where you can’t even visually resolve individual enemies because there’s so much overlapping stuff

And that’s only a thing because infinite cleave weapons trivialize lower enemy densities

[potent echo]

Just spam horde combo into everything

[jovial juniper]

Maulers low-key the villain of those buffs

They got old crusher levels of hp

And instead of Fatshark reducing crushers spawn
They made maulers cheaper to spawn

[potent echo]

Also flak enemies used to be less tanky than dreg counterparts because of adms

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not a difficulty issue, it’s an aesthetic issue. I’d rather have visually distinct non overlapping baddies that are more individually dangerous than the current setup where everything is a trivial fight so the game tries to add difficulty by killing my computer

[plucky flax]

Ye but they die to soulblaze.

Crushers don't.

[zinc phoenix]

Soulblaze as a self spreading damage over time effect with high peak damage when enough is out there has really been terrible for Darktide encounter design

[dull scroll]

can't cut density and can't cut inf cleave

people are addicted to the elite popping sound

they need their dopamine hit

[potent echo]

It's really good

[plucky flax]

Wait hyper critical is better than hyper violence in havoc right?

This guy is calling for hyper violence?

With 11 updoots

Pretty sure everyone run critical.

(I do anyway)

[vast yew]

Who let you off of Bubble Knight

[tulip kettle]

Hyper crit is good, violence less good as you don't get much overkill really and when you do it's Vs poxwalkers so kinda meh

But that's just my opinion, man

[vast yew]

… Anyways he’s not wrong in that Hyper Violence can stack some insane damage numbers. Like 2-shot crushers with a Tac Axe insane. But I don’t know if you’ll get that level of performance in an actual game

[plucky flax]

I want to play some dt but these hotel wifi suck ass. It gives me so much rubber banding.

[vast yew]

Nah play Havoc 40 on hotel WiFi. It’ll be fun! Especially for your team!

[plucky flax]

Well I did but I was on bubble burga so it was safer.

I want to play scummer tho but suddenly pancaked.

[vast yew]

You’re a madman

Yeah I wouldn’t play scum with lag that’s a recipe for disaster.

[plucky flax]

Well I did and failed to clutch so it was really sad.

[summer prairie]

I think it's unclear which is better

hyper critical is less effort at least

[tardy pumice]

can i parry a crusher overhead at havoc 36?

[wispy bay]

With enough stam, yes.

[jovial juniper]

By enough it means at least 2 stamina

A perfect parry makes it so the parry can't cost more than 2 stamina

[wispy bay]

Hyper violence damage increase is not that significant, unless you have hp mod to check the lowest hp enemy to get that over damage bonus. In the best case, if you crit on a 1 hp enemy, that give you double damage (+25% of course) for the next hit, but the average would be way less.
Hyper critical gives smaller number on the score board, though that's 2 less crit hit to kill something, which is equal to 3-4 non crit.

[vast yew]

I think Hyper Violence damage lasts for a whole second, which means you can actually start stacking it (as the more damage you do, the more overkill you do, the more damage you do, the more overkill, etc in a loop) which can make some weapons (tac-axe) into one-shot machines on mixed hordes

Feels like which is better might be related to which weapon you're using

[wispy bay]

It is not the case...

Because you would 1 hit a lot of thing even with weak melee weapons in the simulation. Yet, you don't, not even to some trash mobs.

[summer prairie]

you lose it if your next attack doesn't overkill more

[wispy bay]

Btw, if have both hyper, you land a non crit hit vs extremely low hp, if your next crit hit is basically times 4.5 damage.

[summer prairie]

not sure how it interacts with cleave though

[vast yew]

Seems like it works for this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByQzYPw-1JI

[wispy bay]

Which actually kill any human sized mob.

[vast yew]

I actually disagree with him about using both Hyper talents together but you can see the damage stacking

[wispy bay]

You can check it in the sim yourself, the scab rager is right beside the trash mobs, you can keep killing the trash mobs over and over to supposely stack the damage, but there is a limit to that.

[vast yew]

yeah it'll functionally cap out but it does let you "switch" targets into an elite in a mixed horde

[wispy bay]

And the limit is pretty much still the over damage without the talent.

[dull scroll]

that 1 second thing is too short

[vast yew]

Now Personally I don't have any builds with Hyper Violence because one of my builds is Desperado with crit shivs and the other is Toxin

[wispy bay]

Even if that 1 seconds is not there. It is still unreliable.

[mental mulch]

I didnt know we became the second hive scum channel

[vast yew]

This is #psyker-class we talk about everything here

[dull scroll]

what more there to talk about, psyker is known in and out

[mental mulch]

Lets talk about our Beloved.

[vast yew]

We could always start debating about which FGS mark is better again

That's always fun

[dull scroll]

that's settled 😌

[vast yew]

It's the Mark 8, right?

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-yes-of-course-thor-gif-13961609228304694141

[vast yew]

... I actually like the Mark 8 sometimes so I can turn my brain off

me have horizontal lights and vertical heavies, no brain time

Mark 6 I have to occasionally do a small amount of thinking

(also the mark 8 push heavy stab is awesome but hard to use when there's 17 crushers around)

[dull scroll]

mk8 is superior at lower diff where there's more chaffs and less elites

[fluid knot]

Ngl, I kinda feel like Hypercrit is a bait talent

[dull scroll]

as you go up in diff and elites become more prevalent 6's better single target becomes more desirable

[wispy bay]

Tried multiple weapons, with minimal talents to make sure that it's the talent and not something else, there is still cap.

[fluid knot]

Either you've specced enough into melee that HV is gonna provide more value, or you've not specced melee enough for Hypercrit to be all that useful (the exceptions being Knife + Shiv ofc because uncanny)

[vast yew]

Hypercrit is great on my Desperado build to let my shivs clear hordes faster for a single point

[fluid knot]

There is also the issue with Hypercrit effectively being gamba-damage unless you're going all in on crits

[vast yew]

Though that matches with your "except for shiv" comment

[fluid knot]

Well yeah, Shiv and Knife get Uncanny so tis easier to profit from it

[wispy bay]

Shred + ripost on taxe goes vroom.

[fluid knot]

But outside of on those two things, I'd be very hard pressed to bother spending a point on it

[vast yew]

Also Riposte + Butterfly + high swing speed which lets them proc it like crazy

[fluid knot]

TacAxe also benifits hugely from HV

The damage from HV is added during the swing, IE; instantly, so if you kill say two trash enemies and then whack somethin bigger in the same strike, you're benifiting immediately

[zealous wing]

another victim, same barrel

[swift stag]

My beloved told me not to talk about her in bad light

[zealous wing]

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/so-close-i-could-taste-it-near-almost-close-kate-mc-kinnon-gif-13014007

[wraith sphinx]

Skulls for the golden throne

[zealous wing]

officially 50k away now

if i end up getting this penance on ascension riser i will cry

[mighty cipher]

Normally I would agree except for the fact that scum as a JACKED crit chance with minimal extra investment.

Like, 50/50 on every swing isn’t much of a gamble.

[fluid knot]

If you're sat at like 60% or more the whole match, then yes, I could justify HC, but outside of that? Not really

The only thing its really gonna be proccing on for the most part is Maulers anyway

[mighty cipher]

What?

It proc’s on literally everything

[fluid knot]

Well, everything else just kinda dies

Hyperviolence go brr

Theres really not a lot that Scum can't just walk through, Maulers and Crushers are about it

[mighty cipher]

It’s not meant for melee centric builds. It’s a node for supporting builds with less melee investment.

[fluid knot]

I dont think thats really true tbh

Its true for Shivs and Knife

But a lot of weapons you arent gonna reach that 50% HP threshold if you've got little or no investment into melee

[mighty cipher]

That’s the neat part, it doesn’t have to be 50% of max. It’s 50% CURRENT. Enemies you’ve already damaged through cleave are easier to finish off with HC.

[fluid knot]

Yes, but you've probably done sweet shit all cleave damage too, because no melee investment

[mighty cipher]

Most attacks outside of strikedowns get at least one extra target to take ~half damage. Against chaff it’s still a reasonable amount, especially with how fast low cleave weapons tend to swing.

[fluid knot]

I don't think thats enough reason to take HC personally

[mighty cipher]

I’ve seen tests done by players much better than me and I can feel it when I don’t have it. I believe it’s a pretty good node that’s a lot better than it looks on the tin.

[tulip kettle]

?

[cosmic cobalt]

I still don't know how hv interact with bm lol

[tulip kettle]

hypercrit works on autopistols?

[mighty cipher]

It is generic crit isn’t it… neat.

[summer prairie]

what, it's melee only

[neon steppe]

Yeah it unfortunately is melee only

[summer prairie]

hyper violence stacks on ranged attacks but procs only on melee however

hard to utilize that though

maybe with revolver

[wispy bay]

It is also just 1 second.

Hviolence has quite a few conditions + spaghetti code.

[tulip kettle]

? is it?

[verbal thistle]

its melee_damage_buff

[summer prairie]

he was talking about hyper critical

[verbal thistle]

ah

mb

why so many hyper talents

lol

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hammer-cat-being-hit-on-the-head-with-a-hammer-monjjunirawr-silly-cat-cat-hammered-gif-10390299470246788991

[zealous wing]

because hive scum is adhd mode?

[wraith sphinx]

True but still silly

only hyper talent I use is hypercritical

[hollow summit]

annoyed

too many times i get into melee and then a rager tears me to pieces

[verbal thistle]

bring Dclaw

parry can 1 tap them

and with psyker stamina eco you can spam parry for awhile

[hollow summit]

im playing fgs

[verbal thistle]

smh

gotta spread the Dclaw propaganda

[ripe obsidian]

Hitting 'human-sized' enemies with a critical melee attack kills the target instantly if the target were to be left with an amount of current health that was less than the attack's damage dealt.

For example, dealing 700 damage with a critical melee hit to an enemy who has 1800 current health will not proc an instakill because the enemy's remaining health of 1800-700=1100 is greater than 700. However, dealing 950 damage to an enemy who has 1800 current health will proc the instakill because the remaining health of 1800-950=850 is less than 950.

Breeds that are not considered 'human-sized': Beast of Nurgle, Bulwark, Captains/Twins, Chaos Spawn, Crusher, Daemonhost, Plague Ogryn, Reaper

Per our lord and savior Kuli

[ripe obsidian]

Scum has ADHD

[hollow summit]

do i want kinetic deflection on fgs 🤔

definitely feel like im playing poorly because im playing like a matyrdom zealot

[verbal thistle]

FGS has slow time to block so I often dont take it but its still good pathing to DD

[hollow summit]

Might get more value out of the range crit

But idk, im running new range weapons and I can't tell what works

Bolt pistol seems great but I need to first play better

Martyrdom zealot is so much more durable

And I don't have proper curios

Annoying

Game keeps giving me stamina

[vast yew]

Can I trade, I can't get a +3 Stam Curio on my Hive Scum to save my life

[deft stump]

I have 7 +3 stams, will trade for a 17% toughness lul.

So I can have 3 of those.

[vast yew]

I don't have any 17% toughness curios on my Hive Scum either, but missing 2-3% of toughness isn't as big of a deal as missing 1 point of stamina 🙁

[radiant frigate]

@ripe obsidian idira exploded into a daemonette in act 1 which then proceeded to kill everyone
i once again remember why i do not get along with her

[wraith sphinx]

wow that's rough as hell lmao

[radiant frigate]

it always happens when casting the silly little dodge buff too

no veil degradation but HEHE BOOM

unsanctioned psykers are a menace

i am legitimately just going to give her a gun and tell her to shoot things

[ripe obsidian]

That is not very considerate of her.

[radiant frigate]

banished from casting

[vast yew]

Bro you can't be mad at her, she's just got a little whimsy is all

(I kick her out of my party ASAP and never look back)

[ripe obsidian]

As do I.

[radiant frigate]

"oh but she's the most powerful caster" but sometimes she explodes into daemons when casting a cantrip

[shrewd sand]

Flame staff shriek or Melee Scryers?

I got both builds but idk what I like playing more

[thorn cedar]

Flame staff can eat my farts.

[verbal thistle]

Dclaw melee psyker

with flat wall

[shrewd sand]

Hmm

[thorn cedar]

Flat supremacy.

[shrewd sand]

I mean, I feel like I would just play Dueling at that point

Still has a parry

[verbal thistle]

it doesnt have the parry buffs though

the block cost reduction

[shrewd sand]

But stabby stabby

[shrewd sand]

[white willow]

what perks should have blaze force sword? for inferno build

[modern hare]

Hi, haven't played in a loooong time and I'm wondering if the lightning staff still can crit on secondary attack ? I tried in psykanium but I'm not getting any yellow numbers on it

[thorn cedar]

Yea it can

[white willow]

carapace and unyielding right ?

[modern hare]

ok thanks

[dull scroll]

carapace and MANIC

mutants is what you going to be using the thing on 90% of the time

[shrewd sand]

?

Mutants?

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-mutant-warhammer-40k-darktide-mutant-gif-1118053842768353546

yes

[shrewd sand]

But they dont even have that much health anyway

And if you are running the one perk that gives physical damage for warp kills and warp damage for physical kills you prob dont even need it

Not saying flak is exceptionally prominent but scab ragers and maulers arent exactly rare enemies

[dull scroll]

it's a staff build, what occasion would you pull out your melee for

80% time, it's for mutants 5% time for crushers, and 5% for everything else

[shrewd sand]

[dull scroll]

more or less

[shrewd sand]

Staff builds still fully utilize their melees

[dull scroll]

which flak enemy you going to melee instead of just using your staff

[shrewd sand]

You arent burning away flak or carapace before they get to you unless your vet shouts

[shrewd sand]

Maulers?

[dull scroll]

maulers

[shrewd sand]

Scab gunners?

[dull scroll]

gunners

you going to pull out your melee instead of using the inferno on these things

[shrewd sand]

Scab ragers?

Yes

[dull scroll]

RAGERS

[shrewd sand]

Because the melee will kill then faster

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-laugh-four-gif-7446278225827837893

[shrewd sand]

Idk about you, I'd rather 1 tap all those (aside from maulers because am poopoo garbage and cant hit heads) and not just stand there and take it

Your flame staff is not stopping a hoard of ragers before they get to you unless you are already at high peril

[dull scroll]

now had you said a lone special, or maybe a single one of these things, I might have agree with you

[shrewd sand]

In which you dont have a lot of space to continue burning them

[dull scroll]

but if you pull out melee just because groups of these things gets close to you instead of using the inferno then I don't know what to say 😂

[dull scroll]

try spamming primary

[shrewd sand]

Yeah, 100% I'm pulling out my defensive option to go on the defense

[ripe obsidian]

They have a fairly significant amount of health.

[shrewd sand]

Thats for Mutants???

Jesus

I need to stop using dueling sword

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno is a better close-range weapon than a sword in almost every case. Inferno LMB has crazy stagger. The sword is better for heavy armor and single targets, like mutants.

Also, mutants ignore the stagger, so another reason sword is better for them

[shrewd sand]

Thats what I'm saying

If a hoard of scab ragers, or maulers or something armored is coming at me, I'm pulling out the sword

[dull scroll]

by "heavy armor" he means crushers

[wispy bay]

Im confused...

[dull scroll]

maulers gets eaten by inferno

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[strong gulch]

Hoard of maulers and ragers is even more of a reason to use inferno.

[ripe obsidian]

Scab Ragers should be changed to default carapace so that inferno can't just annihilate them...

[wispy bay]

You pull out the sword to fight when you can fight them safely with inferno...

[shrewd sand]

Or just nerf inferno staff a bit

[ripe obsidian]

I don't like that Inferno is the best weapon in the game for almost everything besides crushers.

It needs to be strong against chaff and light elites, and weak against heavy elites.

Also nerf uncanny, but

[shrewd sand]

Perish

Dont touch my baby

Ik its op. But I love it

[wispy bay]

Depends, some of the strongest weapons don't have uncanny.

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, let me rephrase

[wispy bay]

Caxe, Taxe, Power sword, relic blade, fgs, etc.

[ripe obsidian]

I think Uncanny should not impact damage sources other than the weapon it's on.

It should not affect ranged weapons and DoTs

[wispy bay]

That I can agree with.

[shrewd sand]

It does what now?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[strong gulch]

DoTs actively take on buffs (they dont snapshot tho).

[shrewd sand]

Prob a good thing

[wispy bay]

You can get full uncanny stack then switch to gun for more damage.

[shrewd sand]

Gross

[wispy bay]

Vet can 1 tap crusher with revolver in auric that way.

[shrewd sand]

Ew

[queen radish]

So this is where all the pros congregate huh

Damn

[wispy bay]

It is also one of the reasons to use force sword over of FGS.

[strong gulch]

So you can take a force sword with uncanny, apply max SB stacks from inferno, and use push attacks to apply uncanny and make SB actually do decently against crushers from a safe distance.

If you get into melee, you can push SB DoT even more with a power / strength blessing like superiority.

[ripe obsidian]

An example

[shrewd sand]

I know what I must do

[ripe obsidian]

Can get it higher with stuff like superiority

[spice aurora]

Where are my ek staff L click only surge chads

[modest perch]

extinct

[queen radish]

What is happening here?

Break it down pls.

[shrewd sand]

I wanna make a build with elec staff but damn flame staff too damn good

Also trauma staff PLEASE FATSHARK BUFF IT

[strong gulch]

here #psyker-class message

[wispy bay]

M1 EK is exhausting with limited success.

[strong gulch]

Surge surge is still pretty strong.

[ripe obsidian]

Can get Soulblaze to >700 damage per tick on Crushers pretty easily.

[spice aurora]

surge^surge

(Surge)(surge)

2(surge)

[shrewd sand]

Also, why do we not have variations to the staffs??? Like, Flame staff with a wider cone but less range or one that throws a fireball for its left click. Idk

Fatshark more wizard shit, I demand it

[wispy bay]

Not weak, but you spend so much concentration to play it. I'm like to run it in auric, but even auric mael is a little much for me.

[ripe obsidian]

Soulblaze normally has a 0.1 armor damage modifier to carapace. With uncanny strike, you get an absurd amount of rending, which increases your armor damage modifier to over 1. Something like 1.1, not positive. Force sword push attacks always trigger uncanny. So the soulblaze gets that benefit and does significantly more damage than it should.

[wispy bay]

I play without mods, no auto clicker or auto quell.

[strong gulch]

Not the experience of everyone. Valid tho. It's not for me either..

Plenty do well with it in havocs.

[shrewd sand]

Actually, why are most of the staffs special abilities just a bonk, give me more spells

[dull scroll]

the reign of forcesword superiority, this is the gold age 😌

[wispy bay]

With auto clicker...

[shrewd sand]

Let the special action open a radial menu to give me more spells

[queen radish]

Y'all are actually insane, I can't lie...

Damn...

[strong gulch]

Not the people I'm thinking of, but even so.

[wispy bay]

Ah

[queen radish]

Is auto-clicking a thing in the Darktide sphere?

[shrewd sand]

Yes

[dull scroll]

for pistols and staff lmb

[queen radish]

What lengths do people go to here, like damn?????

[spice aurora]

There are multi-action macros that are basically cheating and then there is full auto which is a single-action macro which is not frowned upon (cause it doesn’t enable anything different really)

[strong gulch]

Please note that just holding the button down for the attack to basically spam a single button is not the same as animation cancels.

[wispy bay]

You want to know the dark side?

[dull scroll]

https://youtube.com/shorts/bQHkgCSshuI

observe

[wispy bay]

The ruinous power?

[spice aurora]

🫡

[dull scroll]

oh shit bruh found me, now I gotta hid

[ripe obsidian]

I am somewhat insane, yes.

[queen radish]

Y'all need to onboard me here, on what to know and what to expect in this community, is what I feel like rn.

This is like walking into a room full of people trying to perfect a craft like shiiiiit.

[white willow]

really okey I need to change

[spice aurora]

@dull scroll there is no hiding, brainburst already charging

I got 33-40% thru on archivum then the spawns said “ok no more time to die” 😐 but was only an hour of trying so I’m feelin p good about it

[ripe obsidian]

I have a pinned build guide in this channel that has some information about skills and weapons. Still improving it, so it isn't finished.

[wispy bay]

Just don't be like many crazy people in the 40K who don't understand satire.

[ripe obsidian]

"Uh, akshully, 40k is a very serious deconstruction of modern society."

[queen radish]

What does multi-action macros even look like?

[spice aurora]

Tbh you don’t really need to do all the min maxing you can do fine in the hardest content not really knowing much about build intricacies, it’s a movement skill floor and ceiling and the rest will just kinda be flavor (this is how good players can use stupid gear and do fine)

[strong gulch]

Are you the kind of person that like to dive into information? If so, check the pins. There is a build bonoza with lots of builds, there a mechanics guide, there's a list of acronyms, and of course feel free to ask questions.

[ripe obsidian]

There is a player on NA East named Dorfan who uses a ton of macros. One example is Deimos force sword Light Attack 1 > swap to staff > swap back > repeat, all done about 4x a second

[dull scroll]

this shit is unreal the more I look at it

[spice aurora]

What six said xD

[wispy bay]

The Dorfan, inferno and deimos.

[spice aurora]

That wasnt even what ended me on the far run, that was just the start lmfao

[shrewd sand]

I need to download those guarantee swap mods.

[wispy bay]

I think I lost every games I played with that guy...

[ripe obsidian]

We killed 1. Another spawned. This was the very first room of Power Matrix.

[shrewd sand]

Getting tired of not being able to swap between my weapons when mid animation

[queen radish]

OK. That's kinda reassuring although I think with time I'd wanna get into the nitty gritty

[shrewd sand]

And the guarantee ability mod

[dull scroll]

okay, you know what maybe it's because I don't have that mod and game only ever display up to 2 bosses for me 😒

[shrewd sand]

Wtf...

[queen radish]

Yeah, I mean, whatever game I pick up I eventually go into the deep end. Right now I'm trying to wrap my head around it all.

[ripe obsidian]

Welcome to H40. Sometimes the director decides you don't get to win.

[shrewd sand]

Just win anyway

Duh

[queen radish]

That's fucking crazy LOL

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/314?tab=description

[wispy bay]

It is very typical for H40.

[spice aurora]

Mine shows up to 6 but we had 8 once but I was just soloing thru gloriana to get my friend h40 clear xD

I want another gloriana map

[queen radish]

Got any tips for a starting player?

[ripe obsidian]

Man, I had an H40 almost-clutch the other day on Dark Communion where the game threw 2 bugs at me back-to-back to prevent me from getting revives.

First bug: in the respawn site just before the mid event, all 3 of my downed teammates teleported to the next respawn site when I got close.

Second bug: mid event door opened before I got into the room, unleashing the boss immediately.

Rude.

[wispy bay]

I have a vet build with IAG onslaught + raking fire. It works surprisingly great vs monstrosity.

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker has a bad time in early levels. Focus on using Assail until you're a higher level, as it doesn't need a higher level to scale well. Staves feel bad until you can max out their stats.

[spice aurora]

If you go hard left to revive then they wont get moved forward

And second one it wasnt the early hard coded boss it was just a regular boss that opens the door, technically its easier cause you can have more room to kite xD

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't know that second bit. Unfortunate.

[queen radish]

Okay, that's based. Thanks. Good to know.

[spice aurora]

The res I only learned literally yesterday, otherwise I always gave up on that res

[ripe obsidian]

I was also running from a horde to try to get the revives, so I was kind of panicking, hence screwing up the revive spot.

[spice aurora]

Its just annoying how that res hasnt been fixed yet xD

[white willow]

in pins there is a build bonanza link and inside there is leveling tree if you want

that was the most usefull guide I have ever seen

[ripe obsidian]

Glad it helped you

[white willow]

thx

[queen radish]

You're genuinely a gem to the community. I can tell already just glancing over the document. In case anybody hasn't appreciated it in a while.

Good effort, great initiative.

[ripe obsidian]

I do my best. If there's something missing from the guide, other than the melee/ranged weapon section, let me know and I'll try to fix it

The weapon section needs more work. I have just been lazy

[radiant frigate]

shoutout to six, he's a real one

[strong gulch]

thank you six

[ripe obsidian]

Or, perhaps, I am merely a figment of your imagination.

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1274487631987605674/GVHX15RXoAApby3-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[wraith sphinx]

Kat please stop exploding cats we're running out

[ripe obsidian]

I spy with my little eye... an inferno psyker build in the H40 queue.

Using a normal Deimos (uncanny + deflector) and a penetrating flames + blaze away inferno

Just so you know I am not making this up

[wraith sphinx]

Keystoneless...

Why malefic momentum with inferno bb??

[ripe obsidian]

I do not know.

[west spire]

I have to thank Karien for showing me melee psyker and the force great sword. I can finally enjoy the class.

[strong gulch]

Probably to make melee beefier, but it's not worth it in this case.

[ripe obsidian]

lmao what the fuck

I don't think I was particularly unsettled.

[strong gulch]

uhhhh

yeah that's weird

[wraith sphinx]

Lol weirdo

[west spire]

Did you ever settle down? lol

[wraith sphinx]

Allat typing instead of "hi sorry, invited u by mistake"

[ripe obsidian]

No. I am eternally riled.

[wraith sphinx]

Uh oh

[west spire]

Good, let the hate fuel you.

[wraith sphinx]

Siblings! We got a rager!

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/sushichaeng-dog-eating-cabbage-dog-eating-cabbage-gif-angry-dog-excited-gif-20779262

Anyone lookin' to goof around? I am sick, so my brain is too boiled for H40 (probably). But lower havoc or contract farming or summat would be fine

[ripe obsidian]

They invited me again.

[strong gulch]

uhhhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/why-persian-room-cat-guardian-but-why-trendizisst-anyaboz-gif-2156104475561014590

[strong gulch]

I can join. Also same.

[ripe obsidian]

I think they must be looking at my build or something and hitting the wrong button

[wraith sphinx]

Sorry about to sleep

[marble crater]

"You are currently blocking this player" invited you to a Strike Team

[spice aurora]

it is big stronk in h40 too

[plucky flax]

I see some bubble knight guy sometimes on eu server he sucks and throws

[spice aurora]

Bubble for chuds

Wall for chads

My favorite gambling ability - will it actually block a net or stop a burster walking thru?

[summer prairie]

nuh uh

[thorn cedar]

-20 to +5 to -15 again waah

[strong gulch]

Single point wall to sow confusion.

[ripe obsidian]

Is his name UnsanctionedPsyker?

[plucky flax]

No I think that guy is pro. The noob bubble knight is syllogism or something

[ripe obsidian]

@verbal thistle your zealot guide lies. >:(

"The rest is up to preference, you can take a 3rd gunner resistance (you do get diminishing returns, it really only adds around +5%gunner resistance since its multiplicative, 3 gunner res goes to around 45% gunner res)"

[verbal thistle]

I forgot to find the actual numbers

[ripe obsidian]

1x 20% resist = 125% effective HP versus gunners
2x 20% resist (36% resist) = 156.25% effective HP versus gunners
3x 20% resist (48.8% resist) = 195.3125% effective HP versus gunners

I have the numbers.

[verbal thistle]

OMG

I'm dying

my sides my hurt

[ripe obsidian]

Obviously you don't know what you're doing

[modest trellis]

The audacity

[ripe obsidian]

Your build does amuse me, for what it's worth. On someone not-you, I might be concerned as well.

[strong gulch]

ye

[verbal thistle]

lol

they died to 1st enemy and left

[ripe obsidian]

It's because you weren't using a better build

You should have saved them

[west spire]

would high intensity be the best way to get the Dodge This (3) pen?

[ripe obsidian]

What is that penance? I can't recall

[strong gulch]

Kill 15 enemies with Headshots within 10s.

[wraith sphinx]

That achievment icon looks vaguely familiar. Is it from some viral meme or a cartoon?

[west spire]

Potato answered for me, better than I could have explained

[strong gulch]

You should be able to get that with assail in damnation. Try to get a horde by yourself and dump assail into it. VS is also an option.

[plucky flax]

Its not head shots in a row? If not then melee should be easy

[strong gulch]

idk if it's in row

VS if so would be easy

[west spire]

Its not in a row but ill try assail eventually. Not too good with psyker stuff in general.

[dull scroll]

7 dmg taken in this economy, I'll take it

[brisk ivy]

Whats the best staff for Psyker?

[dull scroll]

what difficulty you playing at?

[brisk ivy]

heresy and above, or at least trying to get used to it lol

[dull scroll]

EK best then

that's the lightning staff

[brisk ivy]

ive only ever seen force strike, force blast, and inferno?

oh nvm im blind

ty!

[white willow]

I didn't like the blaze sword. Am I doing something wrong? I felt like I was better with the dueling sword. Do you have any advice?

I maxed it btw

[jovial juniper]

which blaze sword

[white willow]

obscurus

[jovial juniper]

have you learned the combos?

[white willow]

I dont think so