but more dmg into HVT
#psyker-class
tulip kettle
tulip kettle
flak unyield on the EK
i like knife as melee for crushers and mobility, DS also works very well
acoustic jacinth
Oh you run unyield? I go maniac, but i can try differently
As for melee
Fgs and ek are an inseperable love for me
It's like
Cheap beer and marlboro red
Also, how come KP over prescience aura? Haven't seen that in a looooong time with psykers
It's called bonding
How positive do you think psykers are
leaden thunder
it's just a very long standing tradition
I still member when they gas lit themselves into thinking spaming push attacks with the combat axe was optimal
tulip kettle
because you already have perma uptime with scriers
and we are trying to max EK dmg here
its only 10%, but, its 10%.
zealous wing
It's called bonding
tbh this is what i see people say a lot
we seem very very aggressive
and, we kinda are, but its not hate thats for sure... usually
tulip kettle
im snuggly when you get to know me 
zealous wing
lies
tulip kettle
casual abuse is my love language
zealous wing
facts
tulip kettle
oh and maniacs die to assail spam or are specials and die to one EK anyway
jovial juniper
Execute will miss out on future quests, which is missing XP
Don't go missing xp
burnt hull
What is this « bugged » build with Voidstrike ppl are talking about ?
marble crater
I don't know about build, but there is a bug that you can't explode from peril, unless you right click EK or use Inferno
So anything else is pew pew pew pew pew
burnt hull
Really ?
marble crater
Yes
zealous wing
the downside, is it lags everyone in the match, except console players apparently
it also will get worse and worse the more you do it thru the map
burnt hull
So you can’t explose at all using Voidstrike in a match
marble crater
I know what I will do later
zealous wing
at first it wasnt noticable, by the end, i was stuttering hard
im going to bed so if you refer to trolling me good luck
we never play together 
zealous wing
abnormal
i dont sleep
i havea psyker to level
but my brain is crashing hard
so, i must
marble crater
Good night 
ripe obsidian
Hexis the Sleepless
acoustic jacinth
tbh this is what i see people say a lot
Dude this is literally great people don't know how good they have it here
Some take it personal but we have good gameplay discussions
In league you'd probably get called out for whatever race you are and made fun of that and that's the chat
Anyway home soom
This will be interesting
I havent ran SG even outside of havoc in ages
weary crane
https://youtube.com/shorts/7k7nwwwx-bI
I love KX
acoustic jacinth
Kayex has some of the best lines
I love having him host our missions
The vox chatter is peak
jovial juniper
Keks-8
shy mural
i need to come up with a psyker name
build type? I'm horrible with name so advanced warning
unique goblet
No clue first time playing psyker
shy mural
No clue first time playing psyker
well if you come up with a certain build, you might get better inspiration for names
unique goblet
yeah cuz currently the only name idea i have is mrcrazynotcrazy
shy mural
yeah cuz currently the only name idea i have is mrcrazynotcrazy
lol I just keep my names silly and simple, like NuttyMcNut and StabbyMcStabface
unique goblet
fair enough
inner lodge
which of the personalities did you pick? Loner, Savant or Seer? Imagine the nickname you'd give someone you knew who was like that
quaint lark
i need to come up with a psyker name
Andraxxus
unique goblet
might not use it for psyker but will steal it for later
quaint lark
If ya want random ass but instresting names, Protoss from Starcraft have some decent psyker names
I named my Smyker Tassadar
Both using lightning i had to yk?
quiet inlet
@ripe obsidian or anyone else, I'll stream space marine 2 in strike team 99
rare arrow
Does assail have a max target limit or do they have cleave as well
strong gulch
They cleave but also ignores hit mass.
Go to the assail section of the kuli guide to learn more.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505
rare arrow
They cleave but also ignores hit mass.
Go to the assail section of the kuli gui...
Thank you!
strong gulch
They don't cleave cara tho.
strong gulch
the expert is typing
Hi
sturdy reef
toxin build very stronk
sturdy reef
strong gulch
or pee and fight
sturdy reef
even melee toxin
strong gulch
toxin is the new dog
marble crater
Can someone explain this position to me?
strong gulch
Am pup. Give.
sturdy reef
I want nuncio aquila to actually stick to the arbites
make it a pseudo companion
just make the class more interesting 🙁
strong gulch
The stay in circle thing is annoying. Circle impact gaming.
marble crater
That would be practical, but have you considered: no 
strong gulch
or could be repositioned after deploying
jovial juniper
The children yearn for the chorus zealot
ripe obsidian
<@230796342165897226> or anyone else, I'll stream space marine 2 in strike team ...
I am not at home, but thank you
solar sparrow
what perks do you use on inferno staff for h40
marble crater
Flak and unyielding/maniac/crit chance
acoustic jacinth
@tulip kettle i hope this doesn't sound too weird, but the best way i can describe it is, with assail + subnodes i could manage the pseudo effect of hallway clear shriek has, but with assail spam on SG. with just a little quelling, i could also get 10-15 SG stacks relatively easy. overall i feel relatively the same, more active during mauler spams, however i do have to note that stray poxwalkers ever now and then can get annoying (they would all be burnt in old build) but i guess that's just a be cautious moment, it is my first time with it in a long time
damage is as expected but hey, not a large gap
what was it like
900k on old build
850 on this?
i can do better but i need more time with the build, rusty
will go into havocs with this for the fuck of it, that's how i learn
hardy citrus
I've got a friend that's picked the game up recently, and he's always picked mage-y type character so he's playing psyker. What's a decent setup I can recommend him that will also help him learn the basics of a tide game? Things like melee combat
there's the big doc in the pins that has a recommended levelling setup, but that doesn't really look great for learning the basics of the game itself, so I'm not too sure what to recommend him
ripe obsidian
The trees are finally changing color here
ripe obsidian
what perks do you use on inferno staff for h40
Flak/Unyielding is ideal. Flak/crit chance is good.
ripe obsidian
I've got a friend that's picked the game up recently, and he's always picked mag...
I have a beginner psyker build in the pinned guide. The reason it’s recommended is because low level psyker sucks a lot, and Assail helps mitigate that
hardy citrus
is that a solid option to also learn the basics of the game itself then?
ripe obsidian
I believe so. You will not be able to rely solely on Assail, so you will need to use melee and ranged options as well.
The Psyker staves are also very unfun to use until you can max their stats
Low-level Psyker is generally unpleasant.
ripe obsidian
So your friend might need to push through some bleh levels before they start to really live the space wizard power fantasy
marble crater
Power level the friend 
flint torrent
Inferno staff is double bleh at low levels because it ALSO doesn't have the density it wants
main crow
will relay the build and go from there once he's 30
Make him try out the Force Greatsword when he unlocks it. It’s peak. Sending magic sword beams through a horde is the best.
main crow
what blessings and perks does it want
Looks like Unyielding/Carapace and Blazing Spirit/Shred from one of the higher rated builds on Gameslantern. (I’m still leveling Psyker)
hardy citrus
shred over riposte seems weird to me?
unless im reading shred wrong and it's not same target hits
main crow
I think Shred just builds stacks as long as you’re chaining hits
hardy citrus
ah
strong gulch
Blazing spirit on melee is bad.
ripe obsidian
Unyielding/Carapace, Unstable Power/Shred or Riposte.
strong gulch
If you like it cool, but it is not good.
Shred vs riposte depends on different factors.
leaden thunder
shred can drop really easily if I recall correctly
vs riposte which is pretty easy to keep up all the time
flint torrent
Blazing spirit on melee is bad.
If blazing spirit worked on the fancy swing I could see it being good but the fact it doesn't kills it
hardy citrus
new player learning melee, do they go shred or riposte do we think
leaden thunder
riposte, gotta learn to dodge, shred will drop if they miss a swing and need to be restacked
flint torrent
Ngl I don't think it matters too much, just use whatever blessings you get off upgrading the weapon
strong gulch
Shred is better if you don't have aggro or there's a bunch of CC on the field. It needs stacks to build up and can drop if you miss or hit a bead body.
Riposte is full available on dodge and procs from EE, but if you get a smyker or a taunt gryn gl with your procs.
flint torrent
At least until higher difficulties
main crow
Yea that’s why I tend to prefer Shred.
livid field
Would "Seer's Presence" be objectively more useful than "Kinetic Presence" in high havoc ? I mean I've been using Kinetic presence so far and it's been working quite alright, but then again, it is a dilemma that i've been having...
ripe obsidian
Would "Seer's Presence" be objectively more useful than "Kinetic Presence" in h...
Kinetic Presence is lackluster. Doesn't meaningfully help with breakpoints. Seer’s Presence is always useful.
ripe obsidian
what staffs are the best for psykers then
In high difficulties, Inferno > Voidblast > Electro >>> Voidstrike. In lower difficulties, Electro > Voidblast > Voidstrike > Inferno
In terms of fun, Voidstrike >>>> everything else
strong gulch
If you're doing meta psyker things then you want seer's to go with bubble.
If you're doing right side things then you want the crit aura.
If you are second psyker doing whatever and are trying to minmax, then choose something that the inferno psyker doesn't have because aura's don't stack. (or feck it and choose what you want in case they die).
Poor Six.
VS in a sad state.
for havocs at least
rare arrow
My scoreboards aren't saving anymore, but it seems like it breaks whenever i join a group
strong gulch
Everything is updated? DMF, DML, scoreboard, ovenproof, ovenproof scoreboard plugin?
strong gulch
then idk
strong gulch
is it damage?
WR
strong gulch
I suppose unless something happened since then
Could try some older files. Here's mine and I haven't had issue. I think ammo pickups have also been messing games up.
pop those into ovenproof's scoreboard plugin and replace what's there.
do a backup before that
flint torrent
is it ALWAYS WR on all weaps?
Unless you're doin somethin weird, psyker wants to be high peril as much as possible and having your WR as low as possible (even sub 60) means you get there faster
strong gulch
There are niche / specific cases that WR isn't the dump, but it is largely "dump WR".
VS dump blast radius and EK LMB can dump charge rate or quell speed.
60 wr is generally fine, but sometimes that is too much.
Inferno shriek often wants a lower WR.
strong gulch
If you get a really low WR when everything else is 80, just keep that weapon because it's harder to get again vs a 60 dump.
ripe obsidian
is it ALWAYS WR on all weaps?
Blast radius on Voidstrike
ripe obsidian
I'll charge your rate. >:(
tacit adder
havent touched my psyker in a while and fixing up curios + perks, got tough/tough/hp for blessings. CDR and Toughness on all of them.
Is 2x gunner resist 1x corruption resist still a decent choice for the 3rd perk on each? Or is HP or something else a better option with the talent tree rework?
(mostly do damnation/auric for reference, have not really touched Havoc)
ripe obsidian
I use 3x CDR, 3x gunner resist, and 3x toughness or revive speed
2x 17% toughness and 1x 21% HP
rare arrow
is crit chance hard/soft capped?
ripe obsidian
Crit chains are a thing, though
strong gulch
There's also the psudo random crit and non-crit chances.
I can't remember what it applies to tho.
Like is x weapon or attack type exempt or how crit strings or guaranteed crits work into it.
plucky flax
Crit deez
pine tundra
Anyone have a good Smite build? Could be for Havoc or auric damnation
ripe obsidian
I have smite builds in the pinned guide
woeful cliff
Hey guys what blitz is good for melee psyker
ripe obsidian
Assail
woeful cliff
alrighty
leaden thunder
assail weaving my beloved
ripe obsidian
I would think it falls off a lot?
Still very strong
Clears chaff easily, staggers ragers
RMB Assail can be good for picking off weaker specials like snipers
hardy citrus
wait it staggers ragers?
that's big
ok cool yeah
im sold
(I dont play psyker)
pine tundra
I just made the guide a couple months ago
You're doing Emperor's work
This guide is amazing, so much detail
ripe obsidian
Dreg ragers at least. I would need to test against scab ragers
ripe obsidian
You're doing Emperor's work
This guide is amazing, so much detail
Happy to help. If anything's missing (besides melee weapon and gun info, I know I need to add that), tell me
I am ready to be disappointed
Yeah, 31% WR. Worthless to me. >:(
My lowest WR on a Deimos currently is like 28%
weary crane
Just did a havoc 40 game on dark communion
The respawn point bug where it teleports them away to the next one hasn't been fixed
There's a bug with the summoners at the end where they just don't spawn, so you can't break the shield
And I pushed a burster behind a wall, dodged away from it, and still got hit
strong gulch
wtf
ripe obsidian
Obviously a skill issue
Okay, I just gambled on 250 force swords. 2.5m of dockets. No dice. Alas.
jovial juniper
Gamble harder smh
ripe obsidian
okay, I will buy 50 more
Got this, but I think it would end at 29% WR
oops, wrong chat
Time to earn more dockets so I can gamble more
Went from 22m to 18 in this gambling spree
strong gulch
low WR gambling keeping siblings poor
dusky crag
quiet inlet
fite them
strong gulch
quaint lark
Dressed like me. >:(
quiet inlet
I saw another Jonkler
quaint lark
https://tenor.com/view/angry-moth-angry-moth-angy-angy-moth-gif-1217218890276127...
Oh look its my partner
Im stealing that
Weren't we fighting the other day about smite?
Then again what day goes by without a smite fight...
strong gulch
nerd down
quiet inlet
the ol' karien special
plucky flax
It was karien
ripe obsidian
@tulip kettle I will be back at some point
Just gotta eat
I had some pretty unfortunate losses
tulip kettle
i suffered twins on the final section by the destroyed bridges on dreyko 3 times today. Sometimes we gotta take the L's
(third time i just abandoned the team ran to the valkyrie and we won)
ripe obsidian
4 or 5 games of not even reaching the mid event in Enclavum
I didn't play super well, but I wasn't playing badly
Just poor team comps and poor coordination
tulip kettle
an adventure in damnation quickplay - "hive scum is so weak i hate it" edition
quiet inlet
yeah, only 130k melee
tulip kettle
brown drink
zealous wing
has none
tulip kettle
quiet inlet
hot chocolate? it's borwn
zealous wing
i have powder
zealous wing
oh ye disco aquila
quiet inlet
pump the fat beats
zealous wing
im gonna do this for it
gotta edit it tho to get the proper section playing
got a few others i could throw in to
might even make me use nuncio and make my own shit again 
who knows
ripe obsidian
I need to remember how to H40 after a week of Auric shenanigans
"Wait, basic enemies hurt? What is this nonsense?"
wooden sand
I need to remember how to H40 after a week of Auric shenanigans
Dodge
wooden sand
Can you use it in a sentence?
zinc phoenix
anyone know a klerigo?
psyker, did pretty well with a smite/bubble/trauma build
rare to see a non moron in aurics lmao
plucky flax
Bubble smite 
zinc phoenix
I mean I thought he was gonna be a huge jerk with it but he played smite in a completely kosher way
A rare smite user I didn’t try to barrel
quaint lark
Oh dont actually all innocent Mr anti Smyker
Can't tell me smite is bad and be in the group ur in lol
ripe obsidian
Smite isn't bad. Just boring and usually used poorly.
Smite is strong.
Smykers are usually bad.
zinc phoenix
Can't tell me smite is bad and be in the group ur in lol
Smite is mostly used by game ruining “people” who deserve what they get
quaint lark
I dont ruin the game, I make it easier and have never had a complaint
patent jacinth
You make it boring
Turning off the enemy AI and turning encounters into DPS checks
if I wanted the game to be easier I would step down a difficulty or two
quaint lark
Oh no I dont make it boring at all
quaint lark
No i turn it off quite a bit when theres only a couple of enemies, plus I split sometimes so I get a fuck ton of aggro on me and I can leave them to enjoy their own fun, now if theres something coming my way or their way we team up again but I dont stick with them all the time
gray juniper
Running solo smite????
quaint lark
Yes
I do it alot, and I dont die like others my smite keeps my toughness at max even if I do get hit
Bc it kills with warp
gray juniper
Smite folks always seem dead set on doing smite so I won’t say anything
Pry my smite from my cold dead sparkling fingers type stuff
tulip kettle
@ripe obsidian are you gaming?
quaint lark
Pry my smite from my cold dead sparkling fingers type stuff
Yes we are like that
Im emperor palpatein but better
tulip kettle
ripe obsidian
<@230796342165897226> are you gaming?
I can be. I kinda wanna do H40s, though. Getting bored of Auric
plucky flax
Can't tell me smite is bad and be in the group ur in lol
Im genuinely confused I think you mistook me for someone else lol
I haven't even been playing the last 3 days
quaint lark
Im genuinely confused I think you mistook me for someone else lol
No we've fought about smite before
plucky flax
Oh then sure i think its bad just use purg instead
Kill faster and cc nearly as good
umbral sonnet
Iv never really ran smite, flame and shriek to make everything nice and toasty
strong gulch
=========================
umbral sonnet
Never could find a smite build i liked
gray juniper
Smite. For where you want the work of purge but take twice as long
quaint lark
Smite doesnt take long at all
umbral sonnet
Smite works well in auric if psyker is willing to give up dps for pure cc, works even better if there is another spark head purging and shrieking as well
strong gulch
==
mighty cipher
Are you good potato? What are these things you are sending?
mighty cipher
Smite works well in auric if psyker is willing to give up dps for pure cc, works...
Even then the Purg psyker would rather enemies funnel into the stream of their own accord.
umbral sonnet
Even then the Purg psyker would rather enemies funnel into the stream of their o...
Na its all in the hips mate, throw that flame like it ain't no thang
umbral sonnet
https://tenor.com/view/donghae-lee-donghae-super-junior-surprise-smh-gif-1819705...
Thats the one!! Preferably with no pants on..... just socks
Full baby dickin it
zealous wing
Even then the Purg psyker would rather enemies funnel into the stream of their o...
agreed. i prefer when enemies spread the flame for me
quaint lark
umbral sonnet
agreed. i prefer when enemies spread the flame for me
Yea boy!
zealous wing
smite, prevents that
its also harder to be a meleeker when everything is frozen, it ruins the flow
quaint lark
Thats the one!! Preferably with no pants on..... just socks
Socks are on so its not gay
umbral sonnet
Socks are on so its not gay
Exactly.....
umbral sonnet
smite, sucks 100% to try and work around
I dont reckon it ruins the game, its a handy tool, I just prefer purge staff and shriek style of play
quaint lark
I run SG and shotgun with it
mighty cipher
He’s takin the piss
mighty cipher
It has uses but it’s typically just worse to take when your team is good enough.
umbral sonnet
Trough man for the win!!
mighty cipher
Now if your team isnt good enough. Yeah smite is a handy guardrail to have.
quaint lark
Ive had runs with smite where the flow of everyone was perfect yet we would never talk just callouts
And we went through a aruic maelstrom like it was nothing
umbral sonnet
Yea its sweet when done well, and if you have your purge staff burning everything they are holding in place...... fuck oath
Iv never played havoc, how does smite go in there?
ripe obsidian
Smite is strong in most modifiers. Smite is boring in just as many.
jovial juniper
Iv never played havoc, how does smite go in there?
Falls off
Horde enemies have more mass
Enemies overall have more health
More mass = slower ticks
But the thing is
It also spawns more elites/specials
So you can feed Scriers Gaze/Warp Syphon/Perilous Combustion
And have infinite smite
zealous wing
all fun and games until the anti-cc modifiers
ripe obsidian
I feel like my damage in H40 as inferno + shriek is lower than usual. Or maybe I'm just too used to auric nonsense now
zealous wing
lower since when
ripe obsidian
This was a 45 minute game
zealous wing
no healing, no rot, tbh that seems on point
ripe obsidian
My perception might just be skewed
I am sad about my damage taken. Dark Communion, I took 35 damage until the elevator after the mid event
When a burgle and twins spawned with a mass of gunners from atop the distant ramp
I didn't get knocked down there, but I did get chased around that area twice, then eaten by the burgle
umbral sonnet
Just finished and auric run now with smite and flame psyker's, we wiped the floor, poor scum was running around looking for things too kill lol
umbral sonnet
That's why I'm getting bored of Auric
Im happy at auric i dont think id have the skills to run havoc
umbral sonnet
What does the numbers mean in havoc havoc? Havoc 40 for example?
strong gulch
Havocs go up to 40 (shorthand H40). You grind up to H40. Depending on where you left off from the previous season for if it's you're first time and you completed an auric mael, you can start at H30.
As havocs go up, they get more punishing in various ways.
Havocs also have unique modifiers that change if you win your assignment rank or higher or if you derank.
plucky flax
H40 is hardest content in the game currerntly
Its hard but if you have another 2 good players its fun
quaint lark
And have infinite smite
Which means damage that is constantly stunning and doesnt let most enemies that would be big threats get close
zealous wing
they should shorten smites range to 5m
quaint lark
While yall reloading and using ammo, us smykers are sittin here doging to move with ease and never have to reload but once every 10 mins lol
umbral sonnet
Havocs go up to 40 (shorthand H40). You grind up to H40. Depending on where you ...
Isn't the win rate like 30% or something crazy?
strong gulch
Depends.
quaint lark
Even if it was shortened we can just go back and we keep a leash on the enemy though, so sometimes ill use crushers as points for my smite as high hp pool and it lets any hordes that pass by get killed in place while your a map away lol
zealous wing
Even if it was shortened we can just go back and we keep a leash on the enemy th...
if youre in a different room, thats WHY things are spawning
quaint lark
One bolt is on the crusher and the other 2 are on whatever is after me and others
zealous wing
the game will actively spawn things on lingerers / rushers to try and kill them, depending on the difficulty its allowed certian "points"
quaint lark
I dont linger or rush like that i push just enough
But dont stay in one spot for very long at all, hell I never sit still
umbral sonnet
As a psyker main i fuckin hate crushers, my only tool against them is head pop and if im too close im sliding all over the shop the get distance to pop!! Of and net gunner can go fuck em selves while we're at it
umbral sonnet
Fgs?
zealous wing
am midauric so here
quaint lark
My melee is FGS
umbral sonnet
Oh force great sword...... yea I dont reckon it the can opener everyone says it is
umbral sonnet
What blessings?
zealous wing
unstable power, then shred, precog, or deflector, based on preference
quaint lark
Deflector is decent ill say
But I dont ever block in here unless im pushing so I dont use it
Its a good one though
My bulid is way yay earlier in here
Somewhere
umbral sonnet
My girl is illisi mkv blaze force sword, shes a beauty i reckon, chop chop chopity cop fuckin cop!!
zealous wing
lmfao
quaint lark
Fgs I gotta say ive never felt better about melee then it, like nothing has ever felt as good as it does, it does what I need it to do, when I want it to, it just feels perfect
strong gulch
illisi is unfortunately kinda weak for what it is.
quaint lark
Yk?
strong gulch
It needs a buff.
quaint lark
Illisi does need a buff
strong gulch
It's niche is horde clear and it does a middling job at it compared to other weapons.
umbral sonnet
illisi is unfortunately kinda weak for what it is.
Yea its a piece of shit but I still love it
strong gulch
It is easy to use tho and is nice on the hands.
Oh for sure. I enjoy some trash too. 😭
strong gulch
never said I hated smite
i don't like smykers tho
umbral sonnet
Oh for sure. I enjoy some trash too. 😭
Gotta love the stinky trash, I refuse to use heavy sword though, its looks fuckin cool but my word it makes a better rolling pin then a sword!! Why wont FS fix it?
strong gulch
Also like does not equal good and hate does not equal bad.
idk much about heavy sword
that's my partner's thing
umbral sonnet
Whats the best blaze sword then?
umbral sonnet
idk much about heavy sword
that's my partner's thing
Its its about as hard as a sun dried turd..
quaint lark
Blaze Force Greatsword
umbral sonnet
Blaze Force Greatsword
Ewwww yuck!! Cooties!
Oh my name changed colour..
Moving up in the world!
quaint lark
Ewwww yuck!! Cooties!
umbral sonnet
My normal discord channel is the freemasons channel and it takes a while too lvl up in there, and the hoops we have to jump through to prove we are indeed masons is a mission!
umbral sonnet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/650783806394990633/1449198199251402953/SP...
That horse can go choke on a bag of cooties....... and cocks
umbral sonnet
https://tenor.com/view/hazbinhotel-angeldust-charlie-alastor-sirpentious-gif-205...
You know it!!
ripe obsidian
quaint lark
AHH
umbral sonnet
https://tenor.com/view/hazbinhotel-angeldust-charlie-alastor-sirpentious-gif-205...
Now excuse me my step mum is stuck in the dryer again...
umbral sonnet
Why do I keep getting rolling steel?
strong gulch
Sometimes the game just keeps sending you to the same place. Could be people going in and out of the same mission due to leaving and what not.
But also if you have the campaign missions on at the terminal (assuming you're done with the campaign) you'll get shoehorned in those pretty often if you QP.
quaint lark
I love rolling steel
sturdy reef
smite might actually be useful because of how poxbursters are rn
quaint lark
Smite ive seen always useful against them, whats with them rn?
sturdy reef
increased player hurtbox
quaint lark
Really?
quaint lark
Damn then smite is amazing for that, smite pops them when it touches them
placid sorrel
did they superbuffed the psyker ability cooldown
sturdy reef
no
quaint lark
I remember after the talent trees were redone i could do my smyker much easier in a way but after that I dont know
ripe obsidian
a trapper net just went through my ogryn, hit me, and dragged me like 20m into a pack of crushers
even the ogryn was like wtf
umbral sonnet
Rn?
void perch
a trapper net just went through my ogryn, hit me, and dragged me like 20m into a...
i swear i suck at darktide
not because im bad
but because the game sucks
today i've been dogged and trappered
like
every time
and i have a clip where i dodged out of a dog
lag spiked
and i resumed inside of dog bite
er
grab
and most other times i lowk dodge and still get grabbed
like
the only counter is to kill them before they do their thing but i am so laggy i cant even kill them when they're in range to start
before they start
umbral sonnet
the only counter is to kill them before they do their thing but i am so laggy i ...
@void perch I reckon dog bursters and netters are buggered but maybe I suck too?
zealous wing
smite might actually be useful because of how poxbursters are rn
lmfao if your goal is to die then ye
sturdy reef
😛
strong gulch
@zealous wing I have KF indicator by shriek. From Crosshair HUD and Custom HUD to move it.
Just an option.
quaint lark
lmfao if your goal is to die then ye
Ohh fack off ya karker
ripe obsidian
I did the same H40 several times in a row. On the one I won, we had an exe stance + laspistol vet, BtL + shock mine arby, pickaxe oggy, and me on inferno + shriek. Was pretty smooth until the last 25% or so, but we pulled it out. No gold toughness.
The game prior, different ogryn was complaining about how it was impossible without gold toughness.
void perch
<@442791815406551081> I reckon dog bursters and netters are buggered but maybe I...
they are
afaik
ripe obsidian
umbral sonnet
@void perch So Im not crazy?! I spend all my time looking over my shoulder but a netter coming from nowhere?! Or a burster makes no noise at all but then throws itself out a fuckin door and fucks your face like roco stifridi!!
modest perch
thats a name i havent heard in a long time ... he taught me so much
umbral sonnet
thats a name i havent heard in a long time ... he taught me so much
He's a legend in his own lunch box that lad
ripe obsidian
There was one more, but we killed it
6 bosses immediately upon starting the map
We did not survive.
umbral sonnet
There was one more, but we killed it
I haven't had that yet?! Holy fuck thats brutal! That must be a havoc thing hey?
modest perch
yeaj
ripe obsidian
I ended up laughing so hard
modest perch
i brought scum into 40 the other night
we didnt make it but we got much further than we did when i was on ogryn
n i was like super negative about the class so i was like fuck it lol
not sure what to make of this
umbral sonnet
The thing is hate the most is your playing like a weapon and doing really well, your team goes down you run over and pick em up and get back to it..... and then you go down and they all stand around and watch you die..... fuckin pick me up you wankers!
livid field
Kinetic Presence is lackluster. Doesn't meaningfully help with breakpoints. Seer...
@strong gulch I apologize for not replying earlier, I fell asleep. Thank you for clarifying. I switched and noticed a difference, definitely gonna make the climb from 35 to 40 a little bit easier...
And when it comes to staff blessings I supoose switching between crit based on peril and rend stacks on direct hits is purely situational ? I mean they are both good at the end of the day?
ripe obsidian
I always use Nexus + Blaze Away
I find it to be a much more meaningful increase in performance.
Some folks quite like the brittleness one, but I haven't found it particularly useful. It's not bad. But I don't think it compares with Nexus, especially when EE is based on crit.
tulip kettle
pen flames is only good in rot armour
and only good for making you do less damage but your team more
strong gulch
The only time I rec pen flames instead of nexus is if you just do not peril edge at all. If you only do low peril and especially if you have bubble then pen flames might be your friend.
That is quite specific and niche tho.
EDIT: I mention bubble here because no warp nexus means little or unreliable EE procs. Which bubble helps to cover.
If you're doing funny brittle stacking too because of unique sources stacking on top of one another. That is again niche and takes coordination with others.
livid field
Yea.. I understand.. Thank you for explaining I was always leaning towards the warp nexus myself.
sturdy reef
did someone trip multiple triggers
ripe obsidian
No
sturdy reef
or did you guys take too long to kill
sturdy reef
f
ripe obsidian
It was the first dropdown in power matrix
tulip kettle
team split up
livid field
The only time I rec pen flames instead of nexus is if you just do not peril edge...
Well I mean I try to stay near 100% but I sometimes find myself exploding while using bubble.. i know it's embarrassing but I am so used to venting shriek where I can edge peril literally forever....
tulip kettle
somone went main path and someone else went the other way
then thats crazy
yoiu have a weakened too
zealous wing
Well I mean I try to stay near 100% but I sometimes find myself exploding while ...
genuinely dont worry about being embarrased about exploding. happens to all of us
strong gulch
We explode.
tulip kettle
amazing
strong gulch
Well I mean I try to stay near 100% but I sometimes find myself exploding while ...
Don't need to ride so close to 100%. Try to be in the 80s.
zealous wing
strong gulch
Hexis 666
ripe obsidian
Ugh. You know when you hit that point in the night where you don't feel exhausted, but based on your play you're definitely tired?
I just had a series of H40s where I was absolutely the weakest link
ripe obsidian
Deimos is more defensive, Obscurus is more offensive.
Deimos is easier, Obscurus is harder.
ripe obsidian
Deimos's 2nd heavy attack can stagger crushers and captains on a headshot.
But it's pretty eh for most other things
Has decent single-target damage
Obscurus has longer range on its attacks and stronger damage output
But it doesn't have the same level of safety as an on-demand knock-over of big enemies
Obscurus's combo is HLL, I believe, which is also somewhat harder to aim
hollow summit
i think i'll do obscurus so i have some cleave
ripe obsidian
Obscurus is also largely single-target. Not sure how its horde clear does
hollow summit
just tested in psykhanium, l1h2
ripe obsidian
Ah. I can't speak to that
hollow summit
for single target idk, just special spam i guess
hollow summit
really
ripe obsidian
you basically never use the special attack
hollow summit
bleh, what's the point of running force sword if i dont spam special...
sadness
back to dagger for me
ripe obsidian
Yeah, the force sword specials are not strong
They're mostly used for quick peril generation
hollow summit
i wanna play some chain axe but i have it on vet and plasma guns are buggered
so annoying
zealous wing
Obscurus is also largely single-target. Not sure how its horde clear does
its ok, not great but its better than deimos' horde clear
HLL for single target, light heavy loop for horde clear iirc
zealous wing
bleh, what's the point of running force sword if i dont spam special...
special has its use cases, usually to generate peril immediately, other than that you dont use it much
vapid tinsel
my psyker is scriers gaze with laz pistol and the great sword, sadly i needed to remember the build is it got respecc'ed from the hive scum launch bug and went with good ol Ogryn for a week
zealous wing
it didnt get fixed with the patch?
vapid tinsel
yes but when it happens you kinda just gotta remember to do it
as its happened only characters you didnt pick would be safe
zealous wing
i mean, my builds got repaired in the patch long as i didnt touch them
i saw builds be gone, then be back after the hotfix, but, seems im a rare case
vapid tinsel
might be cause i was attempting to remember my skills
zealous wing
either way
sounds like you were running a pretty standard meleeker build
should be something in the build guide with what you want
in the pins
oh joy... join a game, insta loss before the intro even loads, and i cant leave the loss screen
patent jacinth
Tier lists aren't a good metric of anything
They entirely ignore specific niches or roles
hollow summit
yeah sure but for melee i feel like general killing power is approximate enough for a tier list
patent jacinth
What are you looking for specifically
hollow summit
just wanna see how bad the chain weapons are rated lel
hollow summit
im playing chain axe on veteran and its kind of a struggle
meanwhile powersword just clears hordes like nothing
patent jacinth
Power sword is the best weapon in the game just about
fallen apex
is trauma staff usually blazing spirit+ warp nexus?
patent jacinth
Yes
zealous wing
is trauma staff usually blazing spirit+ warp nexus?
if blazing trauma yes
if rending trauma no
latent acorn
does psyker have any perks for helping with not running out of ammo :o
latent acorn
;-;
zealous wing
melee psyker is really fuckin strong too
latent acorn
i'm in love with the bolt pistol
zealous wing
gun psyker is still 99% melee
bistol is a good melee sidearm
but ye you shouldnt be shooting absolutely everything
latent acorn
i want to use bolt pistol often though :<
zealous wing
use it for specials, elites, and bosses, but big sword also good
patent jacinth
does psyker have any perks for helping with not running out of ammo :o
Better fire discipline
latent acorn
is there a better class for bolt pistol? 🤔
fallen apex
ik inferno staff outclasses everything but when using trauma staff, whats usually the best pairing to compliment it or for it to compliment in terms of melee weapon and abilities/blitz?
zealous wing
if all you care about is bistol and ammo, then vet
zealous wing
ik inferno staff outclasses everything but when using trauma staff, whats usuall...
it depends, but generally blazing trauma will run obscurus, FGS, or some mobility weapon like a knife if you know how to use the knife
i think
latent acorn
i tried some of the spells, but smite seems to be more of a stun than a damage spell, and the icicles aren't as precise as i'd like...
haven't tried the single target one yet though 🤔
zealous wing
blazing trauma wants BB with kinetic flayer, and shriek
rending trauma wants assail and scriers
zealous wing
i tried some of the spells, but smite seems to be more of a stun than a damage s...
assail is surprisingly precise
fallen apex
ic
zealous wing
but you right about smite
patent jacinth
Assail aims at your cursor
zealous wing
damage is shit, its a stun tool
fallen apex
I also have the same question about what to pair with voidstrike - Im a brain rupture enjoyer but i wanna build voidstrike sometime and try to make it as good as it can be, what should I ideally pair with it? also what is voidstrike blessings and traits?
zealous wing
I also have the same question about what to pair with voidstrike - Im a brain ru...
theres a build in the pins from six, he enjoys VS a lot, but, basically you use it in place of a gun
he's definitely better versed in voidstrike than i am, but, its fun
fallen apex
theres a build in the pins from six, he enjoys VS a lot, but, basically you use ...
in the bonanza?
zealous wing
yeah
zealous wing
i tried some of the spells, but smite seems to be more of a stun than a damage s...
i dont have an assail demonstration clip, but, it goes where you look
this is the sniper cue clip but its the only thing ive got rn
latent acorn
oh thanks :D
fallen apex
is there a resource for traits and blessings in terms of just knowing whats good so I dont have to ask for every weapon? in pins i see a huge breakdown of all of them but im usually just looking to hear what the best options are then its easy to deduce why and whether I want to deviate
zealous wing
i believe the guide has that as well
fallen apex
oh ofc the bonanza has that i glazed over it mb
zealous wing
also dont ever be worried that assail is weak because it cant deal with carapace... thats what the big sword is for
ripe obsidian
he's definitely better versed in voidstrike than i am, but, its fun
Poor Voidstrike
I'll try to do the melee weapons and guns tomorrow
Getting tilted is, in and of itself, tilting. Get more and more frustrated as you try to win, which makes you play worse and you aren't even having fun.
marble crater
Just don't get tilted
ripe obsidian
Too late
marble crater
When you are already tilted it's time to play something else for a bit or take a break, hour or so
ripe obsidian
Yeah. I am not always good at that, especially when tired.
zealous wing
what a typo
marble crater
Who says it's a typo?
zealous wing
"There are very strange minds on the surface. We have guests!" -sefoni
abstract tree
I love how empathetic the Loner psyker can be at times.
zealous wing
he does say its a front
idk if fem loner shares that voiceline
i also heard loner belt out an actual war cry earlier
"No surrender, no retreat!"
acoustic jacinth
I used to run loner but seer's maniacal giggling got me good
radiant frigate
"for the emperor", i'm sure..
zealous wing
I used to run loner but seer's maniacal giggling got me good
true tho
my solution?
both
and now a third
male loner, male seer, fem savant
radiant frigate
bofadeez personalities
zealous wing
we need a 3rd to help with a penance, anyone available?
train, zealot fleshwound, heresy
wispy bay
Is the guy with the "psyker weakest class" still around?
brave dirge
Who said that? I bet it was an Ogryn!
zealous wing
lol
they were distraught psyker BB didnt oneshot heresy crushers
two shot not good enough
brave dirge
I was testing it a bit. It can, with that trait that triggers a 2nd BB
Actually, how DO you deal with crushers if you don't have a flame staff?
brave dirge
To be fair, against crushers in particular this takes a while
Was this heresy or damnation?
zealous wing
auric
brave dirge
So auric is no longer Damnation with modifiers?
zealous wing
well, its seperate difficulty now
tbh i think it is just damnation with built in high intensity, i genuinely have not asked if its anything else different and at this point im scared to ask
i think they did change crusher hp in auric vs damnation, i'll check that rn
hi sefoni
brave dirge
That sometimes happens to me too, when I get knocked in the head by a massive hammer
zealous wing
i love that i went to testing first then remembered theres a fuckin wiki
so no it IS the same damnation vs auric
zealous wing
Was this heresy or damnation?
so, damnation, technically
honest olive
i've just dusted off my psyker from a very long time of not playing the class and i'm liking the greatsword, what mark, blessings and traits do ya'll run?
zealous wing
mk 6 is generally seen as the best, tho it is technically preference
unstable power is a must, second blessing is preference, shred, wrath, riposte, deflector, whatever you need
perks, flak cara
honest olive
mk 6 is generally seen as the best, tho it is technically preference
unstable po...
thanks for the info!
acoustic jacinth
To be fair, against crushers in particular this takes a while
Of course the dodging part is on you but even then it's pretty good ttk and safe kiting for what it is. Look at hexis's kiting, utilising the push attack to stagger what is too actively close for comfort. And also it is good to note chances are by the time you get to the crushers you'll already have buffs going, if you crit (which because of shred is not rare), you may just 2 shot a crusher
zinc phoenix
mk 6 is generally seen as the best, tho it is technically preference
unstable po...
Better at killing elites because the combo is easier to access. Worse at killing hordes for opposite reason
Both are perfectly fine and effective, it’s just which combo you’d rather have easy access to
radiant frigate
mk6 vs mk8 is preference and you can't go wrong with either (but it's still incorrect to prefer mk8)
acoustic jacinth
Better at killing elites because the combo is easier to access. Worse at killing...
it's more difficult true but it's still got very good horde clear. in the case of mk6 fgs, you can make do for the loss in perfectly horizontal mk8 lights via qq light 1 spam or push followup attack, in the case of mk8 there's nothing you can do to match the heavy thrust damage of the mk6. at least this is how i see it
zinc phoenix
it's more difficult true but it's still got very good horde clear. in the case o...
Push attack heavy combo on mk8 does the same elite stuff
And it’s safer because crusher yeet
acoustic jacinth
safer but it is slower
it's like deimos vs obscurus force sword
sure, deimos is afe
obscurus has better TTK
but yeah, it is true that the difference can be forgotten about
zinc phoenix
And both play fine in practice
My big complaint is situations where there’s no redeeming quality to a mark or weapon
acoustic jacinth
though topping damage/killing is an art so i can be annoying to everyone and my friends
zinc phoenix
BCOB SG tends to feel better with the mk8, high peril SG tends to feel better with the mk6 for me
zinc phoenix
That’s my personal breakdown as an obsessive user of both
acoustic jacinth
Art
yesss
"haha your arbitrator fucking sucks bro you spent money for nothing dumbass"
shit talking like i'm still in league
ragebaiting is the modern form of Cod BO2 lobbies
brave dirge
Shitalking happens in every game that has any degree of challenge
zinc phoenix
I wish this game would list the full move sheet and transitions for every weapon as a matter of course. They have the data, they just need to use a visualizer for the tree
acoustic jacinth
Shitalking happens in every game that has any degree of challenge
heavily depends on the community imo
leaden thunder
I wish this game would list the full move sheet and transitions for every weapon...
I wish this game would give any information about half the mechanics
acoustic jacinth
some games have a relatively smaller challenge but a far more toxic community
brave dirge
heavily depends on the community imo
Can you name 1 game with PvP or challenging co-op without shittalking?
zinc phoenix
I’ve never run into anyone damage epeening in a game. If I did I’d probably block them 😂
In rts there can be some peacocking but this is a coop shooter with minimal competitive scene
brave dirge
DRG came closest to that, but even DRG has shittalking in highest difficulty
zinc phoenix
I’ve never seen someone shittalk on h40 but I got bored of it, maybe the remnant still playing does it?
acoustic jacinth
Can you name 1 game with PvP or challenging co-op without shittalking?
most RTS/4x games are pretty chill but i mean it more in the sense that, it really depends more on the established behaviour of the community
leaden thunder
- there all always bad eggs
brave dirge
okay, maybe I just play wrong genres 😄
zinc phoenix
most RTS/4x games are pretty chill but i mean it more in the sense that, it real...
????? RTS and chill? I’ve seen people lose their minds even in the quiet RTS games like northguard, let alone more competitive stuff like age or warno or rd
Vision hacking screeching in RTS games is so ancient I remember people doing it in StarCraft 1
acoustic jacinth
????? RTS and chill? I’ve seen people lose their minds even in the quiet RTS gam...
i'm talking about older warhammer fantasy/40k stuff i dont know else
DOW community had some of the best people ever
zinc phoenix
i'm talking about older warhammer fantasy/40k stuff i dont know else <:KEKW_ogry...
DoW2 and 1 had lots of angry screeching in the competitive scene
COH2 has streamers who are infamous for it
acoustic jacinth
not sure about it ngl, havent seen/met myself
zinc phoenix
It got so bad relic implemented a swear filter that changed fuck to garden
zinc phoenix
People would be ranting in chat about how they’re gonna garden your dog with sprinkles as they fertilize your face
leaden thunder
been cussed out in several languages in dota, on the NA server
acoustic jacinth
it's fucking peak
zinc phoenix
Yeah idk I’ve never seen people angrier than when they’re losing an RTS
Even the casual modes
leaden thunder
arabic, portugese, russian and spainish (and of course english) i've been cussed out in
zinc phoenix
I’m a tester for a few RTS games and a balancer for one so I have strong opinions on how the RTS community could improve 😂
brave dirge
I’m a tester for a few RTS games and a balancer for one so I have strong opinion...
Something to do with deodorants?
zinc phoenix
Not wrong lmao
acoustic jacinth
Not wrong lmao
dude RTS/4x games gotta be the hardest thing to get people on
fucking pleading with a friend to get gladius
mf plays for 30 minutes tells me he wants to kill himself from the boring ass gameplay
i slurred him out for half the day
zinc phoenix
mf plays for 30 minutes tells me he wants to kill himself from the boring ass ga...
He’s not wrong, Gladius is super boring 🤣
It turns out an incredibly basic city builder with incredibly basic combat, awful music and probably the world’s most bland visuals is not a winning combo
acoustic jacinth
really? i liked it
AWFUL MUSIC? DAMNN
i loved gladius
ost
well
base game is boring yes
but dlc osts are berri nice
zinc phoenix
Behold the stunning visual variety with every variant of brown represented
Also the voice lines good lord
zinc phoenix
well, it is 40k <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
40k can look and sound good, look at Darktide
acoustic jacinth
ehh
zinc phoenix
The problem is ass art direction
leaden thunder
and rogue trader in terms of sound
zinc phoenix
Which Gladius isn’t
acoustic jacinth
like in space hulk deathwing
yeah but it isn't exactly upbeat either
idk, the ambience doesnt make me excited
zinc phoenix
Right it is neutral beat, the most boring kind
acoustic jacinth
which is a good thing
i want to be either feeling horrible or feeling completely emotionless in 40k games as weird as that sounds
zinc phoenix
Slitherine’s best 40k games all got pulled from stores because licensing
Sanctus Reach did grimdark with beauty
Armageddon was a ton of fun as a panzer general clone in 40k while also looking visually dramatic and with a tone of terror
acoustic jacinth
my favourite 40k game only for the 40k element
would have to be
either DOW 1-2 or space hulk deathwing
space hulk deathwing immerses me the best id say
everything is dark, dreaded quiet and you can only hear xenos movement and screeches in tunnels
leaden thunder
mine was darktide, when lights out got added initally
zinc phoenix
mine was darktide, when lights out got added initally
Ok Satan
leaden thunder
alongside daemonhosts
nah it went fucking crazy
it gets annoying now but on release
zinc phoenix
I remember hating it just as much on release 😂
leaden thunder
the first few times through it though? + not knowing anything about daemon hosts was a very memorable gaming experience
zealous wing
if you want darktide darker, follow the brightness suggestion they put in
become BLIND
how we all play vs how they want us to play
leaden thunder
the atmosphere was peak though, the first few times seeing a pox horde's eyes in the darkness was fucking insne
zealous wing
first time i ever encountered a DH was in lights out
leaden thunder
they where added in the same update
zealous wing
i joined relatively recently
leaden thunder
picture everyone you play with being marginally worse and not knowing the mechanics even more, but you also don't know them
the daemonhost was scary
zealous wing
i was playing with my spouse in private games, it was literally just us, silently unnerved, then the whispering started
leaden thunder
zealous wing
fucking terrifying she was
median furnace
i was playing with my spouse in private games, it was literally just us, silentl...
"buzz... buzz buzz buzz buzz"
zealous wing
gonna load a game on this brightness, see if i can snag some good screenshots tbh
what map should i load up
ill go warren i think
this is what they want us to have
zinc phoenix
how we all play vs how they want us to play
I play the recommended way
leaden thunder
same tbh
zinc phoenix
I am emprah’s blindest and most lost soldier
zealous wing
i would, but it also seems to be fucking with discord
discord also has a dark filter over it
idk what is causing this
its not just discord, its everything, so, wonder if its a windows setting or some shit
cedar delta
sounds like its your monitor then
zinc phoenix
the daemonhost was scary
Witch back in L4D was scarier, no one knew wtf that was you’d just hear crying
zealous wing
now im just confused
zinc phoenix
Idk how to copy a timestamp but at about a minute in this has it. Was very creepy esp because unlike Darktide it was very likely to merk you https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yd9MSbF6_R8
also she’d be triggered by light so it was much easier to accidentally trigger
zealous wing
games closed, it hasnt stopped.
the menu is not dim if i hold alt+tab, but everything else is dimmed
so its not the entire display
mighty shuttle
I’m kinda sad that DH is more of a “I kill whoever annoyed me then left now” but I get why they nerfed it as it helps stop griefing
zinc phoenix
Basically everyone would crouch to avoid making sounds, lights would be turned off and you’d be creeping thru the pitch black trying to work out where she is — because not illumated unlike DT and no tagging system — and hoping you don’t have to shoot because that could aggro her
zealous wing
Idk how to copy a timestamp but at about a minute in this has it. Was very creep...
DH can still be triggered by light
if you shine flashlight on her she gets mad
zinc phoenix
DH can still be triggered by light
Which nobody cares about because you barely need light in dt
And you have to shine it pretty close
There’s also no rules about sounds etc
And the power creep means even middling players can kill dh
mighty shuttle
It’s also just that DH in worst case scenario is one player down
As opposed to oh god it’s picking entire team apart
leaden thunder
Basically everyone would crouch to avoid making sounds, lights would be turned o...
that's how it felt on release for the dh
at least in my games
grizzled bronze
are there any auric and above difficulty viable psyker builds that use assail and a chainaxe? Grouped with a psyker that absolutely rolled but wouldnt share their build details, was curious
fierce crest
chain axe is just a generalist melee
decent horde, decent single target
kinda clunky but should work with most builds that dont need a specialized melee
simple moveset too
one mark has horde clear lights and strikedown heavies, the other mk is the opposite
horde clear heavies help into rager packs, strikedown heavies help into crushers
the light or heavy strikedowns have a mini shredder effect where they stick to the target for a sec, the special revs the chain up and your next attack is a full shredder effect
sturdy reef
been enjoying this with the taxe on scummer
hardy citrus
what force sword is the best?
mystic halo
what force sword is the best?
That is entirely based on your build and combat style.
verbal thistle
Obscurus or Deimos are the most used
Obscurus has insane single target damage to armor
Deimos has enough stagger to push over a crusher with heavy 2 (?)
ripe obsidian
Yes, H2
hardy citrus
damn
ripe obsidian
I always say Obscurus is the best offensive one and Deimos is the best defensive
sturdy reef
Deimos has enough stagger to push over a crusher with heavy 2 (?)
ya heavy 2, the stab
and then Illisi is the most redundant because psyker has 0 issue clearing hordes
ripe obsidian
Illisi is FGS lite
hardy citrus
I always say Obscurus is the best offensive one and Deimos is the best defensive
ok I just tried obscurus and i wasn't a huge fan
obviously not a maxed out one, but it felt a bit jank
verbal thistle
it needs its attack combos
hardy citrus
which are?
verbal thistle
1 sec
Heavy light light for single target
Light heavy repeat for horde
Special really only for mutants and captains
hardy citrus
damage does look good there tbh
ok i think ill just go and level up my staves once my psyker is 30
actually, probably not the best idea
tulip kettle
staves suck until lvl 30 and max mastery
meanwhile assail and force swords + scriers will get you there
celest valve
yeah some stats on weapons are way too important tbh
have a plasma gun with 0% ammo it's ridiculous literally slightly over a mag of ammo
mighty shuttle
Strange question. is FGS and SG psyker builds like... infamous or something?
Because I had someone immediately elave when I mentioned being between SG and dome
half pebble
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1pm3anb/beast_of_nurgle_wants_to_play_confirmed/
i love seer sm
marble crater
Strange question. is FGS and SG psyker builds like... infamous or something?
Not really, but Smite on the other hand
mighty shuttle
What's wrong with smite!? I'm not new to havoc and if there's no final toll, seeing psyker with smite makes me go "AH yes anything elite related in melee is going to be spitroasted by our operatives."
verbal thistle
What's wrong with smite!? I'm not new to havoc and if there's no final toll, see...
Smite can be a very strong tool. However...
Smite is often misused and has a big impact on other player's experiences. If it's used to perma stun enemies so people don't get to play and those enemies are CCed in a bad position or spread out or if you are slowing the team down by lagging behind just stunning stuff, people will leave the game, barrel you, not res you, etc. The CC also doesn't allow "on dodge" blessings and talents to function for you or your teammates. Parry is also out.
Because of the way Smite ticks and spreads, it's very good at getting the last bit of damage of an enemy's health even if other players did most of the damage. It also is an enabler for the rest of the psyker's kit and snowballs A LOT. So the way it scales in high density with little effort is absurd.
A lot of smite users also don't learn how to dodge or manage CC immune enemies.
A culture of lobby or mission dodging smykers has formed because of this.
I usually just leave the mission If I see smite
patent jacinth
It turns off an entire keystone
verbal thistle
I cant proc talents/blessings, and its not fun to play with
if you want to fight enemies standing still the testing room is free.
celest valve
if the horde is dead and smite has targeted every enemy you should release the button always
verbal thistle
but do whatever you want, its your copy of the game
mighty shuttle
Interesting!
Good to know
Not that I ever really play with smite
I'm often more interested in force greatsword part of psyker than anything else
strong gulch
Smite is really easy to misuse or over use it.
If you want to play it, go ahead. Just be aware of the impact you may have, intended or not.
mighty shuttle
Aye, I kinda get my CC itch with Chorus on zealot
Where I can go "Nah everything around me is getting CCed while actively giving entire team overshield and damage boost"
Also is it advised to go all toughness or HP for curios, I have two toughness and one HP
strong gulch
Using smite as a primer is about as "ethical" as it gets and still have regular use through a match.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1xC1bzDJs
marble crater
but do whatever you want, its your copy of the game
It's his license to play the game
strong gulch
Also is it advised to go all toughness or HP for curios, I have two toughness an...
x2 tough and x1 HP plus the stam from the talent tree
is generally what's taken
but curios are choose your own adventure
they help, but not THAT much
mighty shuttle
Valid, I was just thinking about corruption resis as refinement, but I just have refinements being toughness, HP, and stam regen. but might swap stam with corruption
Since poxburster seems... maybe bugged?
And having it doing solid third of my HP because I couldn't hear it in corruption is rough
marble crater
You don't need corruption resistance, just don't get hit
mighty shuttle
Alas I am not that talented
spice oar
Using smite as a primer is about as "ethical" as it gets and still have regular ...
See I’ve tried using it as a primer, but does anyone have a hotkey easier to flow into this type of gameplay other than G?
I don’t have a mouse button other than numpad keys sadly
patent jacinth
Q
mighty shuttle
Smite can be a very strong tool. However...
Smite is often misused and has a bi...
Also actually I've been thinking about something extremely stupid that I wanted to inquire to you about
mighty shuttle
I entirely understand this is a horrid idea, I just sometimes watch people do insane or lunatic challenges like 'Beating subnautica without being allowed to move." etc etc. And something occurred to me. If you had to build something and try to play auric mission without being allowed to dodge in any capacity. What class would you go for with that.
spice oar
We don’t use Q for anything right?
mighty shuttle
Q is weapon switching by default I believe
spice oar
Lmao yeah that’s getting changed
mighty shuttle
Which you can do with number keys, or mouse wheel
But it's specifically you switch between primary and ranged weapons
verbal thistle
I entirely understand this is a *horrid* idea, I just sometimes watch people do ...
psyker
spice oar
I don’t think I’ve ever switched using Q ever in my life
mighty shuttle
Not "you go through every blitz/grenade or stuff."
So I do use Q pretty often to get into flow of things
But yeah there's lot of alternatives!
verbal thistle
infinite ammo and CC options from range
patent jacinth
Because psyker doesn't have to get near anyone
verbal thistle
bubble + smite/trauma
patent jacinth
Just spam trauma staff and use knife to run
verbal thistle
nothing from range or melee hits you
mighty shuttle
Oooh that makes sense, valid
spice oar
Oh why's that? As opposed to Ogryn or something?
We have good ass defense via force weapons
mighty shuttle
I guess the biggest enemy in my conceptual building is disablers
spice oar
Especially with stuff like what do you call it block ranged blessing
mighty shuttle
If you can't disable netters or dogs you have to kill them.
mighty shuttle
Especially with stuff like what do you call it block ranged blessing
Deflector
Though that reminds me
Dark Tide has some instances of 'stun immunity'
But it's never clear what that applies to? Is getting dogged a stun?
spice oar
But it's never clear what that applies to? Is getting dogged a stun?
Nah
Dog gets through
mighty shuttle
Is the 'dazed' when something breaks your block a stun?
spice oar
Is the 'dazed' when something breaks your block a stun?
Stuff like taking melee hits and ranged hits
mighty shuttle
So just prevents you being staggered?
mighty shuttle
I wonder why they just don't call it "uninterruptable" or something because there's already bunch of language for zealot, ogryn or etc about "Your heavy is not interruptable"
But that's probably my TTRPG brain semantical habits resurfacing, when it comes to word languages and rules.
patent jacinth
Uniterruptible does something different
Just prevents heavies from being canceled
verbal thistle
stun immunity ≠ uninterruptable
patent jacinth
Stun immune makes it so you don't do small slows when hit/shot
So you can sprint through fire
verbal thistle
uninterruptable is what ogryn has base, being able to do objectives/revive even while being hit with no toughness and losing hp.
mighty shuttle
Isn't there a zealot ability that talks specifically about "Your movement cannot be reduced?"
patent jacinth
TWBS