#psyker-class

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deft stump
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IDK what I can do more without crashing.

long wharf
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put that bar on the ground

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you've turned off ragdolls?

deft stump
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FS coding doesn't get me set 0 ragdolls.

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It crashes constantly if I do.

long wharf
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you crash the game if you set it to 0 in the config file

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but you can set it to 1

deft stump
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I found that out.

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So yeah, it's below low.

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I even turned off as much stuff on the side that I know is okay to.

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Even volumetric lighting or something.

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Made the game brighter to a degree so no real complains. I can see a little better on darker maps.

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Still -40 fps on chem 'nade.

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Before exploding enemies.

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That's the sub 1 fps part.

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It's like DLSS box of boom.

long wharf
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what GPU do you have?

deft stump
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3060ti.

long wharf
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you shouldn't be struggling

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CPU?

deft stump
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Ninth gen i7.

long wharf
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resolution?

deft stump
long wharf
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yeah, you definitely shouldn't be struggling

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you aren't running other things at the same time, right?

deft stump
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I avg 40 fps current patch.

long wharf
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that's low

deft stump
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Drops to 24 in bigger fights

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Chem 'nade and I AFK 15 secs.

long wharf
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I have a 3080(not ti), run at 1440p on a Ryzen something-or-other (two generations old now)

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I was considering building a new system next year, but prices have jumped up, so I'm going to wait

deft stump
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Or well, panic spam dodge and lights because dunno what even is happening.

long wharf
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is your GPU in the correct slot on your motherboard?

deft stump
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Is why that nade feels like back to box of boom, but worse.

long wharf
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are you underpowering the GPU?

deft stump
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Pretty sure you can't kark up with 1 slot.

long wharf
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most likely not

deft stump
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Running bog standard on an 850 watt psu.

long wharf
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850 is way more than enough for what you've told me so far

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is it a quality PSU?

deft stump
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Yes.

long wharf
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even better, you can run a utility to show you power consumption of your hardware

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to check that things look right

deft stump
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Old classic but no longer top of the line.

long wharf
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how hot does your CPU get?

royal totem
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this is probably a stupid question but you do clean dust and such from your computer right?

deft stump
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This patch, 96°C tops after I cleaned the thing out.

royal totem
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and you do have decent fans right?

deft stump
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Just DT.

tacit stump
deft stump
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Not even cyberpunk goes over 90°C.

long wharf
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how hot does your GPU get?

deft stump
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So kark do I know.

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Same.

tacit stump
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dt is potato optimization

deft stump
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Just DT 2.0.

long wharf
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yeah, Darktide isn't well optimized as it is

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I turn down ragdolls

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disable RTX

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you can be robbing yourself of framerate by having antialiasing settings too high, too

deft stump
tacit stump
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i have rx 7900xt and can't play it kn max settinge

deft stump
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I have everything as low as it gets.

long wharf
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okay

tacit stump
dim wolf
royal totem
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i think i just got kicked out of a damnation mission.

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what a stupid game

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i quit

tacit stump
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make your discord profile dark it is a flashbang

long wharf
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well, at this point, without going over your system with a fine-toothed troubleshooting comb, there isn't much more to address

deft stump
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Which is stupid since I can run stable 60 RE2 R on ultra.

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Well stable 90.

long wharf
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sounds like it's definitely something Darktide is doing

deft stump
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It is.

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I get 60-70 FPS on med high on Cyberpunk.

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I actually can max it if I'm happy with stable 30 FPS without RTX and min crowds.

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It's more 40-50 fps then.

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Though, I do have too many mods installed for it.

shy willow
dim wolf
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Brittleness stacks just increase damage taken right?

deft stump
dim wolf
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Would you recommend switching to the blessing that improves secondary charge times instead?

shy willow
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This makes darktide plasma and psyker sound like sone kinda DOAT weapon. "Yeah its damaging reality along with the game"

dim wolf
deft stump
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That's flamer.

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Rather crits and blaze away.

dim wolf
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What ones would you recommend?

deft stump
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Warp nexus is crits.

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I think.

royal totem
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Karien likes mods :3

deft stump
royal totem
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fair enough xD

deft stump
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And Skyrim.

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To be fair, any Bugthesda game.

royal totem
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@deft stump should i uninstall DT?

deft stump
royal totem
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playing it makes my day worse and brings no joy

deft stump
royal totem
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i don't have friends

deft stump
royal totem
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wait what?

deft stump
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Unamused stare.

royal totem
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why spam that on your own servers

deft stump
royal totem
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oh. i see

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why are you staring at everything i say

deft stump
royal totem
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._.

leaden thunder
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new wierd discord feature

royal totem
royal totem
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yeah.

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welp since i've uninstalled, bye and all.

deft stump
plucky flax
ripe obsidian
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That was sudden

deft stump
plucky flax
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Bruh moment

cedar delta
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im back, are we chilling here now

deft stump
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Things went downhill.

cedar delta
deft stump
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No, I mean in general.

cedar delta
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it do be like that sometimes

deft stump
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Mhm. I'm just WTFing at TGA atm.

cedar delta
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C33 hype

ripe obsidian
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TGA? C33?

deft stump
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Claire Obscura 33.

topaz bobcat
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Servers so bad I can’t do my penances rn. Just started my psyker penances too

deft stump
topaz bobcat
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So it’s not just me? I’m running it with 1gb speed and vpn still no luck

deft stump
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FPS wise.

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THe game's a mess atm.

topaz bobcat
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Darn I didn’t have any issues until this recent update. Gonna just give it a few days then

cedar delta
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i turned everything to low

ripe obsidian
deft stump
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In actual gameplay. Standing in an empty room or the start doesn't count.

cedar delta
deft stump
cedar delta
blissful granite
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I suck at melee psyker, any tips?

zealous wing
blissful granite
zealous wing
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well, if its crushers, you can push attack to interrupt them, (and throw maulers/ragers to the ground), other than that you just, dodge more, tbh

tulip kettle
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Gaming?

cedar delta
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me too i also suck at melee psy

zealous wing
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its hard to know for sure how to give advice without knowing how you play, but, its not super easy nor forgiving to play melee psyker, unlike zealot which has a lot more talents built around not dying

zealous wing
tulip kettle
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did you sleep?

zealous wing
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main things are just, learn your attack patterns, use mk6 FGS for more versatility, use your assail, etc

zealous wing
tulip kettle
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ayy same

shadow oar
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whats bos on greatswoprd

strong gulch
tulip kettle
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HELL YEEE

strong gulch
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done eating

tulip kettle
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we are currently in mael

strong gulch
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When the game gives you the correct dump at a cheap price but that's not what this character is for.

fierce crest
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what class doesnt want recon

heavy dagger
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why is melee psyker more fun than zealot for me chadgryn

shadow oar
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do yall go into brainburst proc on hit with gun psyker build

ripe obsidian
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Usually no.

heavy dagger
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is this fine for melee psyker?

thorny trail
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Does Penetration of the Soul affect smite at all?

ripe obsidian
heavy dagger
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anyone know which crit blessing he's talking about with FGS

thorny trail
ripe obsidian
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Shred is my preference

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Riposte is also good

tulip kettle
strong gulch
tulip kettle
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lmao

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GANG

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the psyker hivemind arrives

strong gulch
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Shred is better if you have a taunt ogryn, there's a lot of CC, or you aren't keeping aggro.

Riposte gives you max percent immediately, procs off EE, and doesn't drop if you hit a dead target or miss.

heavy dagger
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im going to run unstable and shred, instead of wrath with unstable

strong gulch
pale prairie
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heavy dagger
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@shadow oar ur playing arby? lol

heavy dagger
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nvm

strong gulch
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not allowed because of scum -s

potent echo
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It doesn't allow hell either

strong gulch
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It's allows scum -s for some tho

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maybe regional restrictions

upbeat kestrel
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Idk my scunmers name will probably be edward

strong gulch
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zealous wing
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scum-bag

strong gulch
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right?

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rude game

zealous wing
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like ive genuinely seen someone called scumbag

strong gulch
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Game doesn't want me to have fun.

mighty cipher
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I forgot I was fucking around with the plasma gun and completely gimped my character for this Havoc match

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It’s an EXE STANCE Las pistol setup that I pretty much exclusively use, so now I’m stuck using a god damn D-Claw solo as a melee vet.

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Also is it just me or are Havoc bosses extra tank at the moment?

void perch
void perch
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unironically

plucky flax
void perch
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L karien

ripe obsidian
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And Scrier's Gaze is just goofy

quartz barn
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Also big dmg and movement speed boost

ripe obsidian
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Unrelated, I am goofing around with shivs in the psykhanium, and the single-hit damage can get high

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that is without Rampage or stimm

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Just adrenaline + heavy stabbing random enemies

quartz barn
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Kinda tragic how the shivs outclass the saw

ripe obsidian
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Shivs are maybe the best melee weapon in the game atm

quartz barn
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I get that the saw applies toxin / rending, but the shivs can do the same with crits and are faster and do more dmg

summer prairie
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I think I do way more melee damage with fgs

ripe obsidian
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I am not sure you do, honestly.

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Not saying I can outclass you with shivs

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Because I cannot.

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But I think shivs are better than FGS with Scum's melee talents

summer prairie
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I know I do way more melee damage with fgs than shivs

ripe obsidian
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I do more melee damage with shivs than any other melee build I have tried in this game

quartz barn
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Fgs is just better vs hordes

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Main question is which one has the higher single target dps

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Prob shivs but cant back it up

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Also not at home so gl testing ig

ripe obsidian
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With a very brief test, I did ~10.5k DPS to a BoN in a controlled environment

plucky flax
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Fgs op

ripe obsidian
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no idea how FGS compares

summer prairie
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with ramping backstabs?

plucky flax
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You can get 15k weakspot in bonbon with fgs and dd stack

summer prairie
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ramping backstabs and hyper violence nonsense doesnt count

ripe obsidian
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This is without rampage or stimm

summer prairie
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then i think scoreboard is lying to you

ripe obsidian
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I was not using hyperviolence or the ramping backstab talent.

plucky flax
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I've hit like 19k during a havoc on a boss before with debuff

ripe obsidian
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Shivs also hit like 3x before you hit 2x

void perch
summer prairie
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I don't test for highest single hit damage

ripe obsidian
summer prairie
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kind of like the damage ticks can lie to you

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I know

ripe obsidian
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the highest I get consistently without hyperviolence nonsense is 8-10k

summer prairie
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show me the setup

ripe obsidian
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This is the build. But I am not stacking hyperviolence beforehand.

summer prairie
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maybe if you also get adreline frenzy active but then it's not really boss dps

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okay you've toxin so it's adding up a 31 toxin tick with your crit damage

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when they line up

ripe obsidian
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I am in no way

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getting 31 stacks

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in this time period

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I get maybe 4 at most

summer prairie
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the highest I can see without toxin is around 8k after pulverising strikes stacks up to +25% power

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I don't have frenzy active though

ripe obsidian
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I've gotten over 10k consistently

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The 12k is a big outlier

summer prairie
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I look at my scoreboard and it shows 12.6k but I know for a fact the highest I've seen is maybe 8k

ripe obsidian
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2 10k+ hits in here

summer prairie
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you are activating frenzy

ripe obsidian
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Yes.

summer prairie
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well that doesn't count

ripe obsidian
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=|

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I have like 85% frenzy uptime in real games

void perch
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"You're using the class"

'It doesn't count'

summer prairie
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you are running the elite/special kill node

void perch
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thats like testing pfalch or psword without pmode

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like wdym

void perch
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all he said was "This damage > that damage" no?

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all classes have elite and special dmg nodes dont they...

summer prairie
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anyway, the highest damage hit doesn't seem to be accurate based on my own testing

ripe obsidian
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The frenzy node doesn't give bonuses for special kills, only elite

void perch
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wouldnt know i havent bought hive scum

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nor arbites

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im a filthy base classer

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💔

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i really should buy arbites though it seems pretty fun

ripe obsidian
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But that was 11.6k DPS on the burgle with 2 stacks of toxin and all my melee stuff up.

void perch
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burgle

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dont ppl just call those bons

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BoNs

ripe obsidian
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I don't

void perch
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i like burgle better

ripe obsidian
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Burgle is more fun

void perch
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yheah

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its funnier

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Bro the burgle ate me!!!

summer prairie
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hmm right now I hit for higher than my scoreboard highest damage hit and it didn't update, weird

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might be a rounding thing

ripe obsidian
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I will say that if you put FGS on scum, it would almost definitely be better than shivs

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Shivs are only this good because scum melee talents are ridiculous and reward attack speed in a silly way

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also the heavies probably shouldn't have cleave.

summer prairie
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need to do some uptime testing with the weakspot adrenaline node, the elite one might be an overkill and you lose it for hordes and harder to keep up for bosses

ripe obsidian
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If you come to a conclusion on that, do tell me.

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It's one of the few nodes I am somewhat iffy on.

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But getting 15-16 stacks on an elite kill is fun.

gray zealot
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is there anyone available to help with malleus monstronum (on PC)

plucky flax
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Ask clad PainsChamp

gray zealot
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clad

quartz barn
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Would ping but navigating members on mobile is impossible Sitgryn

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"Do you mean wintergreen?"

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Fuck off

gray zealot
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is it clad399

tacit stump
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why are some players against buffing voidstrike/electrokinetic staffs

ripe obsidian
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EK needs to be fixed before it's buffed

tacit stump
ripe obsidian
tacit stump
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missing finnese damage huh

ripe obsidian
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Missing crit damage multiplier on RMB

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So a crit on the zap does like 25-30% less damage than it should

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Because the crit multiplier is outside of brackets. =|

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It is, like, a 10 second fix.

tacit stump
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... that is a gamechanger

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can rightlick headshot

ripe obsidian
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This is how it looks:

default_target = {
            boost_curve = PowerLevelSettings.boost_curves.default,
        },
        boost_curve_multiplier_finesse = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,

And how it should be (different attack that's set up properly):

default_target = {
            boost_curve_multiplier_finesse = 1.5,
            boost_curve = PowerLevelSettings.boost_curves.default,
            finesse_boost = {
                [armor_types.unarmored] = 0.75,
            },
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Headshot doesn't matter for this

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Right click can't headshot, it can crit

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The finesse multiplier is crits and headshots

tacit stump
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i know

ripe obsidian
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But since it's outside of the target brackets, there is no crit bonus

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So crits do a lot less damage than they should

tacit stump
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did you digg this up or others

ripe obsidian
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I found this

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And confirmed it's wrong with others

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I mean, this alone wouldn't put EK on the same level as Inferno or Trauma, but I would prefer things to be fixed before they're buffed

tacit stump
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upvoted the post you sended before

tacit stump
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would be interesting if ds would be missing the finesse multiplier how people would react

ripe obsidian
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I think the reason EK is missing it is because the damage profile is copied from Smite, which can't crit

tacit stump
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always those smykers... even bug weapons

ripe obsidian
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The easiest way to make EK stronger would prrrrrrobably be to make the right-click hit 3-5 enemies for full damage instead of 1 enemy for full damage and 1 for very reduced damage

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Though I do not know if that would be balanced whatsoever

tacit stump
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chainlightning effect hit 1 for full and 3-5 targets which loses 20% each

summer prairie
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That same mistake is also copied to smite but I guess it doesn't matter there

ripe obsidian
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Yeah. It's such a simple fix, too.

tacit stump
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what do you think about my idea

ripe obsidian
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That would also be a good change. The reason inferno and trauma are so strong is because they have infinite cleave.

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And in Havoc, charging for half a second to hit one enemy is just not viable, which is why most people use LMB focused EK in havoc

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Giving the weapon the ability to hit multiple enemies would be a big step toward making it more usable

tacit stump
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still using the old wording for blast but not purgatus or surge

ripe obsidian
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It's because voidblast and voidstrike are too similar

tacit stump
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strike feels weird and we have no long range soul blaze Variant like siennas beamstaff

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fireball staff would be nice to

ripe obsidian
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Shotgun staff, laser staff, fireball staff

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All would be nice

tacit stump
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soulstealers bounc leftclick would be neat but rightclick would be to similar to bb

ripe obsidian
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I would enjoy if 3/4 staves didn't have the exact same lmb

tacit stump
ripe obsidian
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Coruscation is cool. I would enjoy it as well. I think laser was the shotgun

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Haven't played VT2 in a while, and Sienna was my least played

tacit stump
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corus was surely shotgun and beam had a other cobe attack

ripe obsidian
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I was mostly WHC or WP Saltz or Merc Kruber

potent echo
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Coru was shotgun lmb, laser was shotgun alt fire loregryn

tacit stump
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i was shade main first bw second, liked necro aswell

tacit stump
potent echo
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Wasnt the beam left click

tacit stump
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nope

potent echo
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But you can snap the beam early with right click

tacit stump
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exactly swapped

potent echo
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Perhaps

tacit stump
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or i mixxed it up

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likely cause it behaved differently from all other staffs in this regard

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i think we don't need firestorm, conflag or the firespear staffs in this game

quartz barn
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Copied code from ek to make smite, bugging out both with the extra bounce node in the past

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And it wouldnt surprise me if something thats intentional on smite is effecting ek again

potent echo
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We also didn't need smite

tacit stump
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it potatos some psykers

potent echo
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I want fireball staff

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Inferno mark25 or something

quartz barn
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Beam staff my beloved Sitgryn

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Inb4 they release coruscation staff tho

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Forgor spelling xd

quaint lark
quartz barn
quaint lark
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Not bad at all if they know what their doin

quartz barn
tacit stump
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even wirh coruscation i used beam cause teammates are sometimes to slow for specials

quaint lark
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Smite is amazing if the person in control of it does it right

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Giant ass horde your team isn't ready for due to there being the twins, oh why dont i just kill the horde in a moment while yall handle the boss

tacit stump
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i only used it then for the penance

tacit stump
quaint lark
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And for some reason ive noticed smite does more damage to the Deamonhost then other bosses

quaint lark
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Shards takes recharges

quartz barn
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Because it shouldnt

quaint lark
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Its what ive noticed, I always look at boss hp while it goes down and everytime some aggroed a deamonhost and im using smite i see it go down faster then other bosses

quartz barn
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Unless you base it on the bar depleting faster, which is just because they have less health

quaint lark
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Same team so nothing is different

quaint lark
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But still

tacit stump
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or maybe cause teammates focus mor on damage cause mobs don't hit them

quartz barn
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Theres a link in the pins which has all enemy stats if youre curious

quaint lark
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No no i have mainly my two friends and my partner helping most runs

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And I always keep horde aggro off them and keep hordes cleared

quaint lark
tacit stump
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you would need mobspawner mod to test it properly

quaint lark
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Tf is a mobspawner?

quartz barn
quaint lark
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Oh a mod oh I dont use mods at all

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Never have never will lol I perfer my good Ole fashioned gameplay ^^

quartz barn
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Its more for testing

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Because psyk doesnt have monsters

quaint lark
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If i cant enjoy a game at its base core then I cant enjoy it at all

quartz barn
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Base game also doesnt show monster hp next to the bar

quaint lark
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Oh I live field test my skills and weapons, I never use psyker lady tube thing

quaint lark
tacit stump
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nut do you know where to get the mod i mentioned never used it could test it afternoon then

quartz barn
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Mobspawner?

tacit stump
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yep

quartz barn
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Prob nexus

ripe obsidian
tacit stump
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thanks frog

ripe obsidian
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Replace with whatever gender identity is appropriate

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The hat tip is what's important

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Ah, found a version without text

tacit stump
ripe obsidian
urban hearth
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everytime i play high havoc without shield i dont really notice that its gone, doesnt really feel any more difficult without it, starting to think its just a crutch for people who cant play, any time i have a decent team it kinda feels like it does nothing

deft stump
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@lusty compass Eula_Stare

lusty compass
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@deft stump

quartz barn
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Didnt expect you to be so toxic

dusk wren
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talents are just a crutch

quartz barn
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What playing with agent does Sitgryn

potent echo
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Having a decent team is the real cheat code

fierce crest
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installing the game is a crutch

potent echo
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If the team retreats together you know you are winning

dusk wren
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ehrm

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cowards

fierce crest
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turning your computer on is a crutch

quartz barn
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Exclusively rely on sound chadgryn

cold ivy
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toughness curios are a crutch for people who can't dodge

potent echo
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Mouse and keyboard are crutch for people who can't aim with controller

fierce crest
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external stimulus is a crutch

quartz barn
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Tbf you still have a lot of people in h40 who actually have to see enemies to react to them

potent echo
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"silent" crushers

fierce crest
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true the game is normally like 40% sound anyway

potent echo
fierce crest
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do crushers even make noise

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no one has confirmed this

quartz barn
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The dodge sound queue is always there

fierce crest
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science's greatest mystery

quartz barn
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But they dont really make sound when moving

ripe obsidian
potent echo
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When sound also fails, you need to rely on your third eye

fierce crest
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oh i just realized this is psyker chat

potent echo
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M

quartz barn
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Just dodge all the time unless cornered

fierce crest
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i was thinking of a different shield

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thought i was in oggy chat

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yeah bubble can be a crutch

potent echo
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Shriek is also a crutch

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Can't kite 30 ragers? New player?

ripe obsidian
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I am just bad

fierce crest
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30 ragers? infinite cleave slab shield.

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l + ratio

potent echo
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Guess what, also a crutch loregryn

ripe obsidian
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Being good at the game is a crutch

potent echo
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What if you are good at using crutches

ripe obsidian
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Even more then

sterile agate
#

is it just me or is psyker bugged right now? I can't go bomba, I can keep casting assail/greatsword special at max peril

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something is wrong

wraith sphinx
#

Yes, twitchy's bugged and can't overload from peril rn

tulip kettle
#

you can overload

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its source specific

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and performing actions that should make you overload but dont causes stutters for every player in the game due to writing to error logs

quartz barn
#

Do you have a list of the actions that are bugged?

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Def not gonna use it to lag out my frens pcs whatthefuck_heresy

zealous wing
#

force sword specials
dueling sword parry (on psyker)
plasma gun ADS
force greatsword special
lmb EK
entirety of trauma
entirety of voidstrike
assail
bb
smite (though it is a pain to overload on it anyway)

plucky flax
#

Is burga not bugged?

zealous wing
#

no

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burga makes me die still Sitgryn

plucky flax
#

Fs racist against op staff

merry meteor
#

I think it will be easier to just proclaim removal of overloading a buff to psyker for FS as of now. It will be balanced by game stuttering when casting over 100% Peril anyway

summer prairie
#

Going to write a negative review if they revert this buff

jovial juniper
#

Inb4 they make it the bolt pistol recoil bug

quartz barn
#

Lmb ek spam with macro thumbsup_ogryn

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Brick game on demand

jovial juniper
quaint lark
#

Anti Smykers as soon as I say I love smite

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"Im watching you bitch..." lol

acoustic jacinth
quaint lark
#

I run smite whenever I play Psyker lol

acoustic jacinth
quaint lark
#

I dont 24/7 like others, like if theres a horde thats coming while were in the middle of twins, imm 24/7 that shit real quick bc ain't no way were dealing with a horde and twins, but if theres like a small group its just a waste for a EP yk?

spring portal
#

why does no one use the voidstrike staff nowadays?

quaint lark
#

I run EP with smite so its useful when needed and have three charges whenever so in case I do need to quell I can real quickly

jovial juniper
#

It fell off

And Psykers can't aim

quaint lark
#

Psykers cant aim for shit i swear like jeez

jovial juniper
#

It also charges really slowly

acoustic jacinth
quaint lark
#

Now i use my shotgun for a quick elite headset to get a EP but thats quick and I played a fuck ton of doom

spring portal
#

it was by far my favorite when darktide launched and now i returned to the game and im really sad i cant find any build for it

quaint lark
#

I might fuck around and build some wacky thing for it like I do with everything cause everything deserves one chance yk?

#

Even if its shit ill give it one chance

acoustic jacinth
quaint lark
#

My smite doesnt just disable it also kills, any low hp unit like gunners, gone in a second, crushers are stunned forever good luck seeing them move lol, and im doing constant damage to new parts of a horde spawning so it keeps pressure off

acoustic jacinth
jovial juniper
spring portal
acoustic jacinth
#

Aha, well yeah it's no wonder

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If i wanted to play voidstrike

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I'd play EK m1

spring portal
#

i just got addicted to the feeling of mowing down mixed hordes with BIG BALLS

acoustic jacinth
#

Yeah i get that

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I mean

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Nothings stopping you

spring portal
#

yeah, im just confused what exactly changed

#

talents and blessing seem still as good for it as before

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was it nerfed?

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or did people just got gud and its a noob trap?

acoustic jacinth
#

Cant remember exactly what got nerfed though

#

Right now it's pretty much

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Inferno is king, voidblast follows close, EK is alright

hollow summit
#

how strange

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flame staff in vt2 is trash

acoustic jacinth
spring portal
#

well yeah but vt2 has another problematic staff

spring portal
#

you mean coruscation?

zealous wing
#

it can still kill a crusher real nice and quick so its not BAD but its not ideal

#

but its fun

spring portal
#

thank you ill check him out <3

acoustic jacinth
hollow summit
#

is it now

spring portal
#

.....

acoustic jacinth
#

Wrong reply lol

#

But yeah

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Yes, i'm surprised you haven't heard

hollow summit
#

cant handle specials tho

acoustic jacinth
#

Ask anyone in VT2 server

hollow summit
#

i havent followed the game since they announced necro

acoustic jacinth
spring portal
#

finally, something better than coruscation

#

i hate that staff so much

#

i might get back into vermintide just cause of that xD

zealous wing
#

i still need to snag a voidstrike. psyker is over 600tl and i have no void strike

acoustic jacinth
hollow summit
#

i see

acoustic jacinth
#

But yeah this shit is

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Discouraged

hollow summit
#

so its just fucked

acoustic jacinth
#

It's cancer

#

You can delete cata

#

Literally

hollow summit
#

oh well

acoustic jacinth
#

FS moment

spring portal
#

but its cause of the bug?

acoustic jacinth
#

Bug but the idea itself too. In a staff where you are pure damage dots lingering flames is bound to make things that much worse

hollow summit
#

i mean, bw was top tier before this shit anyway

acoustic jacinth
#

Yes

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I mean hell

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People take lingering on beam

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Just for the shotgun spam

hollow summit
#

press F to melt hordes

acoustic jacinth
#

Lingering is stupid

#

Yeah

hollow summit
#

and not just, hordes

#

it kills everything

spring portal
#

i mean its a cool idea in theory

acoustic jacinth
#

This is why we should buff psyker

hollow summit
#

on a low cooldown

acoustic jacinth
spring portal
#

but the way it interacts with the rest of sienna's kit is...

hollow summit
#

with a bigass aoe that covers a football field

spring portal
acoustic jacinth
#

Lol yeah

spring portal
#

especially cause having a must take talent in vt is much worse than in darktide

#

cause it locks you out of the other options

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completely invalidating them

spring portal
#

cause then its the same problem

zealous wing
#

checking clips, this is a reminder to actually check your surroundings

hollow summit
#

check your surroundings lol, most randoms dont even know where their health bar is

quartz barn
#

Although less effective atm with the broken hitbox

distant galleon
#

Oi, you guys alright? I've had some games today and you lot are struggling to both play and not insult everyone around you.

zealous wing
#

reconlas special is a flashlight kekw

zealous wing
#

considering most of psykers kit currently doesnt make us explode, honestly people should be playing better, but, alas, not always the case

#

skissues are skissues

deft stump
distant galleon
#

Fair on that, still, having a Smiker call me shit when i was the ONLY one to not get downed was a surprise. Fuckin' gros baby lala he was

jovial juniper
#

Some people are also getting frame drops due to the current peril bug as well

zealous wing
#

everything is everyone elses fault because surely their lightning-go-brr saves them from everything, therefore someone ELSE made them die, or some shit like that

distant galleon
#

I watched as a rager just walked up to him and downed him. Now, noted, I'm rocking the Scum right now so when I have to carry for other its not a fun time

zealous wing
#

i bet

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i think i've had to do that myself, but not to an extreme

#

definitely have on other classes tho, people like that just do exist

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now, i do not mind carrying at all, i care when the person being carried is rude to me or the others

#

im all for people trying new things, people having bad days, etc, the moment they're rude tho, they're on their own

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i consider it a challenge :p

distant galleon
#

I feel ya, I don't mind carrying but it rubs me the wrong way when someone SHOULDN'T be at that difficulty is an ass to others. Had a vet bitching not too long ago to 'stick together' when the team was doing the objective and he was faffing about.

deft stump
#

I mean, if you are sitting on the objective, it's okay to complain everyone isn't there, but if you are the one wondering...

distant galleon
#

It's always the batteries on the train mission. It's like some sort of cognitive hazard for some people to even LOOK at them.

zealous wing
#

TRAIN IN GENERAL

#

its either the best squad youve seen, or the worst

distant galleon
#

I've rando queued and got nothing but train today. Kill me

zealous wing
#

QP has moods i stg

#

ill get the same map over and over and over

distant galleon
#

Not even, like, with a modifier. Just plain Damnation and people are still running around with their heads cut off.

zealous wing
#

well tbh that is more common in damn

#

if you do damnation a lot, definitely move to auric, its usually more chill

marble crater
#

Damnation sucks, it gives you Covid

distant galleon
#

I usually did but with Scum, I'm trying to see if I can go without getting downed but I might need to just bite the bullet. Before that; I need to shovel my deck and driveway because winter is here

peak sundial
quartz barn
#

I had one modded on in the past so it would default the special to the bash, while always having the flashlight active

zinc phoenix
weary crane
zinc phoenix
#

Smelter is the one I’ve had the most trouble with teams on

#

It’s very easy to do the objectives but some people constantly run into the open and dieeee

#

And then when they do others try to save them so they die

distant galleon
#

They instantly scatter when the three objectives pop and proceed to die. Everytime

zinc phoenix
#

And then I end up clutching over and over again in the dead guy room

#

Because my whole team dead

#

One time I had three people who were so dumb they died 30 times and all three left and it was just me and the bots

#

I was so salty because if they had just sat in the dead guy room and distracted the horde I’d have done the mission for them

quartz barn
#

Batteries is the only objective thats hard to solo too

#

Because good luck giving yourself the breathing room to funnel them to their deposit

zinc phoenix
#

I’ve done the pick up and throw then kill everything method

#

It’s slow

#

Have to repeat a billion times

quartz barn
#

Its still ass

zinc phoenix
#

Generally better to just die

tacit stump
zinc phoenix
#

It’s not worth it

quartz barn
#

Drpends on the weapons you use

#

Big horde clear makes it easier because you give yourself more time

#

But you always get fucked by ragers, flamers, trappers or bombers

tacit stump
#

trappers...

quartz barn
#

Ragers just because they hit you from narnia mid slide so you drop the battery and are now forced to fight whatever is on you that you couldve just slid away from

tacit stump
#

idk why but inferno and voidstrike are the staff i use the least

#

would barrier with inferno be weird, since inferno is bs against range elites and reapers

graceful arch
#

Mercantile has multiple safe spots as I can recall.

zinc phoenix
strange igloo
#

but inferno just makes the game easy

tacit stump
#

inferno is boring

#

and kinda meh without good teammates

#

it has the fatal flaw by gunner,reapers,bombers and snipers

weary crane
#

There's a vent on smelter that means nothing can reach you

ornate sedge
#

every day without a new psyker staff is another day without a reason to keep going

glacial burrow
#

How do you do blessed by fate, i've done like 3 darktillion warp attacks at 100% peril and the animation never pops up

deft stump
#

Or RMB EK.

#

Rest is bugged atm.

#

Just FS code much.

glacial burrow
#

In non pysker language please 😭

#

idk what anything u said means

deft stump
#

Use inferno staff or Electrokinetic staff alt fire.

glacial burrow
#

okay

#

I'll try thanks

deft stump
#

All other warp stuff is bugged atm.

#

FS needs to hotfix before holiday but they aren't likely to do it in time.

zinc phoenix
#

Speaking as a dev we tend to slack tf off in December

#

Bug fixing stuff over Christmas is mega ass

quartz barn
weary crane
#

Yup

spice oar
#

Hello hello is the warp shit fixed yet

#

I would like to actually play psyker

wraith sphinx
#

my Beloved says it will remain broken forever

spice oar
#

Surely they fix it soon

wraith sphinx
#

it's getting awfully close to holiday break period, I wouldn't be 100% sure

spice oar
#

Seems they are currently working on it, I wanna say this weekend

#

They know about plasma gun too, and they are saying that an upcoming hotfix will fix it

#

So we are all good in terms of not waiting ages

marble crater
#

At least the bug doesn't make the game unplayable, worst thing about it is not being able to do a few penances with all available weapons

spice oar
#

Anything that can cause you to blow up, including force swords (even their push)

#

all our class exclusive weapons 😭😭😭

marble crater
#

I know, but it's not game breaking or has a bad negative impact, so it's kind of whatever really and not a big concern KEKW_ogryn

spice oar
#

Oh do you not know?

#

It causes frame rate issues and stutteri

#

Because essentially

summer prairie
#

I played a few rounds of bubble knight and has no issues

spice oar
#

When the computer notices you aren’t blowing up, it flags it as an error

#

It then gets written up on your hard drive

#

Which causes stuttering

#

Worsens as it repeats

summer prairie
#

fyi that was just my guess and people are assuming that it's correct, maybe that's not what causes the stutter

spice oar
#

I’ve see it on the forums and Reddit as well

leaden thunder
#

I am going to continue to parrot it as if it was fact

summer prairie
#

yes, because people are reading my bug report that says it might cause issues

marble crater
#

Ah, I played two games yesterday and at points I abused it by spamming staff auto attacks for a few minutes and didn't notice anything bad. Maybe because I'm on console

spice oar
#

😔

spice oar
#

And regardless the issue is still very much there no matter what’s causing it

summer prairie
#

I don't know how plasma gun fits into that if it only triggers at max peril

#

or heat

spice oar
#

Neither tbh

#

Darktide code is already messed as it is

marble crater
# spice oar One time console is superior smh

I started playing Mount and Blade on PC and learned that I hate playing with mouse and keyboard KEKW_ogryn at least controlling the character. It's great for all the menus and everything else, but controlling the character? Nah

spice oar
#

I just did the mesh loading fix so that whenever I open the cosmetics menu it doesent slow my game to a crawl

spice oar
marble crater
#

For me everything except strategy games I guess, I simply can't play with mouse and keyboard KEKW_ogryn

stoic solar
#

Even as a "I can make it work" die hard mouse and KB user, some games are built for controller... Dark Souls/Elden Ring comes to mind.

But staying on controller in a game like Darktide will have you working twice as hard for a half the result imo.

I have a friend who plays with controller though, he chooses particular builds for it.

#

Not to diminish any fantastic controller sharpshooters

tulip kettle
#

darktide is a game that, more so than other FPS games, requires rapid accurate turning of large angles. Its pretty common to need to do 3 180s in rapid succession and its just harder to do on controller. Otherwise, its an FPS game so controller is fine

wraith sphinx
#

yeah that'd be my main issue playing tide with a controller

#

also the fact that you have to use controller presets instead of being able to bind individual buttons

#

or the fact that apparently 2 out of 3 available presets have the spot button mapped to L3 Concerned

#

no wonder why barely anyone pings enemies and items

tacit stump
marble crater
tacit stump
#

mine aswell

digital oxide
#

hey, so, soulblaze stacks mod, to see how many stacks an enemy has, what mod is that? Does anyone know?

digital oxide
#

and yes, I mean that

tulip kettle
#

healthbars does it, so does debuff indicator

#

personally i disable the one on healthbars and use debuff indicator as its more legible

#

and has better customisation

digital oxide
tacit stump
#

i use mods but i don't track enemy debuffs/health

quiet inlet
#

but that one is interesting, because mouse and keyboard does have better shooting accuracy

tacit stump
quiet inlet
#

I think it also helps that there is an aggressive controll aim assist

tacit stump
#

i can't comment about that

half pebble
#

How to gunpsyker

ripe obsidian
half pebble
quiet inlet
#

needing an aim button, a fire button, a melee button, and a parry button all close at hand was really cumbersome for me, and the defaults just didn't do it

ripe obsidian
#

I also want to get into melee more than shoot, and it feels... bad so far.

#

Chip damage from the thousands of little guys, then I mistime a parry and lose all my health

quiet inlet
#

are you playing the campaign?

ripe obsidian
#

Aye

quiet inlet
#

they start you off in the hole, because all of the melee weapons you can take are balanced defense

#

once you get to the multiplayer, you can pick different variations that either make parries much easier (fencing), or have a different defense mode (blocking)

marble crater
quiet inlet
#

which the game never tells you

marble crater
#

True 40k experience, Darktide also doesn't tell you a lot of things

quiet inlet
#

yeah, the space marine tutorial is pretty fekkin sparse

strong gulch
#

Do I give space marines another try? Maybe I like it this time?

marble crater
#

If you already have it, might as well

strong gulch
#

Ninja said 👎 .

Might be onto something.

quiet inlet
#

I'm not stopping you, but I am pretty sure of the outcome. We can do a space marine strike party later today for funsies

marble crater
#

Who made Ninja the authority on what people should or shouldn't try again? angymorrow

quiet inlet
#

Not all people, just potato

strong gulch
#

He's not, but he knows me pretty well.

Like how I've never been successful at QTEs.

wraith sphinx
#

I gave sm2 another try a few months ago and I still hated it.

quiet inlet
#

I think it's pretty much all or nothing. I frickin love the game, but it is a pretty narrow niche

marble crater
#

The only thing I know about SM2 is the Cadian speech, but in German, because apparently people think it's really cool or something. I listened to it and all I heard was cringe and bad dub staregryn

ripe obsidian
#

Playing a big character who feels squishy is just weird

#

I move slow and clunkily, but also die in 2 hits

quiet inlet
#

Yep. Can't defend the way they approach showing the core gameplay loop

#

it's like an artificial skill floor, and I don't know why or what the benefit is

#

They have trial sections for the multiplayer that are decent, but just drop the player in rawdog for the campaign

#

and hope they just accept getting stomped for a dozen hours or so until the entire basic kit is demonstrated

#

maybe it's to make the power fantasy by the end feel better? dunno

ripe obsidian
#

Some of the takes in hive scum chat are certainly interesting.

jovial juniper
#

I haven't been there since class launch

strong gulch
#

I haven't hung out there yet.

#

I tried builds in the pins, but last time I checked, they weren't updated.

#

Oh cool. The one I clicked on is updated.

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
#

I wonder what the leveling recs are.

Like "use assail" for psyker.

#

I'm gonna have to read and learn the talents one of these days.

ripe obsidian
#

Their current topic of discussion is, "Why do people want to nerf scum when psyker exists?"

#

I told them that SG should give attack speed, rending, cleave, and soulblaze on hit and at least one person thought I was serious.

jovial juniper
#

Scriers giving Soulblaze on hit loregryn
Yes yes finally good blazing Spirit melee build loregryn

marble crater
#

SG should auto win the mission

rancid wadi
#

Is the doom guy psyker build still around

quiet inlet
#

hive scum is schroedinger's class, I swear

#

it's the best, shittiest class that dies and can't win that needs to be nerfed right away

rancid wadi
strong gulch
#

reading hard

rancid wadi
#

Combat knife double shotty build

strong gulch
#

then idk what you mean

rancid wadi
#

It was made by one of the good players just to like brag solo havoc 40

#

I liked the build still got the stuff for it just not the talent tree after the resets

marble crater
#

Psykers have no good players

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
#

Probably pretty standard right build then.

#

If you can remeber any hey talents, that would help

rancid wadi
#

If I show the gear does that help

#

It had like shriek

#

Or scriers gaze

#

Not sure which

strong gulch
#

shriek would be a really odd choice.

rancid wadi
#

It was a very odd high skill ceiling psyker stuff

strong gulch
#

If you can't remember the ability then I can only guess.

Do you remember the blitz?

marble crater
#

Just play gunker with knife and double barrel I guess

ripe obsidian
# rancid wadi

I have... doubts about this build soloing H40. But some people are very good, I suppose. That it's using controller inputs furthers my doubt.

#

Someone in the scum chat saying rampage and adrenaline are bad nodes. Holy moly.

marble crater
#

Let's pretend I don't know what the nodes do

ripe obsidian
# marble crater Let's pretend I don't know what the nodes do

Replenish all Toughness and enter Rampage! for 10s. For the duration, gain +50% Melee Power, +20% Melee Attack Speed and 25% Damage Reduction, as well as becoming Stun and Suppression immune.

Melee Strikes extend the duration by 0.3s. After 20s, the extending becomes diminished.

Upon exiting Rampage!, lose all Stamina and become Exhausted for 7s, gaining +25% Damage Taken and -75% Stamina Regeneration Speed for the duration.

Base Cooldown: 30s.

strong gulch
#

Here's a pretty standard right side build for guns and melee with some flex points.

But if it's "high skill" and with DB, then that might have KF instead of assail. Also true aim. IDK how often DB shotgun is being used. If it's a lot then TTS and SoA might be used.

ripe obsidian
#

Melee Hits grants you a stack of Adrenaline. Critical Melee Hits grants +1 additional Stack. Not gaining a stack within 2s will remove a stack instead.

At 30 Stacks, remove all stacks of Adrenaline and gain Adrenaline Frenzy.

Adrenaline Frenzy grants +10% Attack Speed and +25% Melee Damage, lasting 10s.

#

This isn't counting the subnodes that add more damage and cleave and such

marble crater
#

Sounds OP, must be bad nodes indeed

ripe obsidian
#

I need to remind myself that most of the people in that chat are new to the game.

#

I was enjoying, earlier, people arguing with Path about his understanding of game mechanics.

strong gulch
#

oh noooo

marble crater
#

Path, famously known for not understanding game mechanics, yes

strong gulch
#

Supposed to be visiting family and can't play the game and make tables filled with darktide data Path.

#

Yes.
That Path.

ripe obsidian
#

So it goes

marble crater
#

I wish I cared more about understanding game mechanics KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
#

I'd ask him for clarification things. I can only confidentially challenge his ability to save me from fire.

Poor path. He got a sizable severing of me being a chaotic goof.

marble crater
#

Maybe YOU should challenge YOUR ability to save YOURSELF from fire angymorrow

strong gulch
#

Everyday. 🫡

marble crater
#

Speaking of, my brother set fire to a tunnel once thumbsup_ogryn

#

and a dumpster, two different incidents

strong gulch
#

I DEFINITELY don't know anyone who set fire to school's property.

marble crater
#

It was you, wasn't it

strong gulch
#

no

marble crater
strong gulch
rancid wadi
#

it was like a challenge build for doom guy type fun gameplay

quiet inlet
prime saddle
#

anyone know what the best normal force sword is at the moment?

marble crater
#

Best for what?

prime saddle
#

just overall as a jack of all trades

marble crater
#

In that case you should use either of the Force Greatsword variants, as they are actually that, the normal force swords are more specialised

prime saddle
#

good to know

#

in that case what would you say each force sword is best for?

leaden thunder
#

deimos is single target, illisi is for hordes idk what the og one is for

marble crater
#

Illisi is for horde clear, but it's a bit weak
Deimos is for single target
Obscurus is kind of between them, but the combos are silly

#

Greatswords are both great and do horde clear and single target really well, the downside is lower mobility, mark just depends on which moveset you prefer really. Mk6 is a bit better against elites, mk8 bit better for hordes, but either will do either well

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
# prime saddle in that case what would you say each force sword is best for?

Illisi is for hordes, but loses out to the greatswords in every metric except mobility. Deimos is best for defensive play. It has a really strong stagger on its 2nd heavy attack that can knock over crushers on a headshot. Pairs well with the firestick. Obscurus performs best on its own, with very fast and long-range combos, but you will get punished if you screw up

radiant frigate
#

greatsword mentioned

marble crater
#

Greatsword mentioned
Kat summoned

ripe obsidian
#

A wild Kat appears

marble crater
#

Not a house Kat

ripe obsidian
#

A feral Kat, perhaps

marble crater
spice aurora
# prime saddle anyone know what the best normal force sword is at the moment?

Obscurus

Reasoning: few of my friends are very good h40 random loadout players and obscurus consistently shits out damage and deals with everything

I like fgs (you can get around its slowness easily because it’s not gimped like zealot 2h’s giga slowing you on every attack)

Deimos is good you just waste time hitting hordes with it if you have nothing else..deimos h2 can knock twins and captains off the map. The stab is good for easy headshots (you can stab through backs and hit heads)

When I have ilisi and a difficult situation presents itself, I’m never thinking “I’m glad I have the ilisi”

rancid wadi
jovial juniper
#

Afaik Paradise shilled for Double Barrel psyker

strong gulch
prime saddle
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is the double barrel any good now or is it still terrible?

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i havent really tried it in ages

zealous wing
ripe obsidian
rancid wadi
strong gulch
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They cuoldn't remember the build at all. So they posted their gear to give more clues.

rancid wadi
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My curios aint maxed for sure but it's an old ish build

zealous wing
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so then, who are these from?

rancid wadi
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Someone here or in gen talked abt running doom guy build in high havocs and I was like build looks cool and asked the stats

zealous wing
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i see, my mistake

rancid wadi
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What is your point with this

zealous wing
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screenshots of others builds dont show mastery, nor builds

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only ones own screen has those

rancid wadi
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Yeah cause I dont have the talent tree cause the thing got reset before I saved it

zealous wing
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and it didnt get fixed in the patch?

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rough

rancid wadi
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And I posted the gear as a clue for someone smarter who coulda probs figured out a some kinda build to work witv them

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Once it gone it gone from what I understand

zealous wing
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mine got fixed, but, mightve just been lucky

zealous wing
rancid wadi
strong gulch
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i gave an option above

ripe obsidian
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And Potato's option is the only option. >:(

zealous wing
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i know ainz has a build with DB, but he uses obscurus

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im trying to hunt through the logs for screenshots similar to this, or mentions of it

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no luck yet other than ainz and medmindset (sawsee)

rancid wadi
ripe obsidian
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New Ainz profile picture, ahhhhhhhh

strong gulch
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If the person who has the build was indeed paradise, here's the most recent rendition. #psyker-class message

Looks like paradise came back for awhile but is gone again.

rancid wadi
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Like mighta been?

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I'll try both and see which feels more familiar

zealous wing
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so, do we know blitz and ability?

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just in case i missed that

strong gulch
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Also note that knife (especially without bleed) will not horde clear as quickly so BM is doing even less than it normally does.

rancid wadi
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Assail and scriers on both potato's and paradice's

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Unless you talking abt something else

strong gulch
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Ye. assail is standard gunker melee tho.

zealous wing
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especially with knife

strong gulch
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So if it's "I'm tired of the same old meta stuff" then it's likely not assail.

zealous wing
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i do see paradise posting a lot of FGS shotgun build tweaks

strong gulch
tulip kettle
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any gamers?

strong gulch
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gay

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I can do at least one

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@zealous wing @quiet inlet game

zealous wing
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ye

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so, i dont like admitting defeat, but i am unable to locate the build as of yet

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nothing thats both knife and DB has popped up for me yet

strong gulch
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lmao
this was a free game that I added to my library today
seems topical

tulip kettle
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:D

strong gulch
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Not the person btw.

midnight knoll
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I'm just gonna leave this here

strong gulch
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How long can we get the bar??

rancid wadi
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Re engineered the paradise skill tree

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Did I goof anything up

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Does it translate or do i need to tweak

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I just picked all the skills with same icon

quiet inlet
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move this one somewhere else

rancid wadi
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Ok out of a match let's see

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Ok 10% ranged or 20% to ogryns and monstrocities, I'll go with ogryns and monstrocities

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Good catch tho the soulblaze perk was useless lol

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Works nice, aint easy build but just what I want when i wanna play something else than staff psyker, thanks gang!

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We can call this scooby mystery solved

tulip kettle
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i think at the top of the tree

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it should look slightly different

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and maybe will free up one point fr warp ghost

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like this

ripe obsidian
rancid wadi
rancid wadi
deft stump
tulip kettle
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pc on its own is pretty meh

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like, less than 1% total damage on a H40 with no other soulblaze support

deft stump
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It's a joke.

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I tried messing with it even on assail but chances are, everything is already dead from the shards.

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
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I started taking pc anyway cos when I am clutching it helps cos the random purga psyker is ass

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But I wouldn't take pc if I was playing with a decent psyker like syllo

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And he was on purg

tulip kettle
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😭

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the subtle flame

rancid wadi
# tulip kettle

This works too with the warp ghost but it changes how it plays like you gotta be more aware of your meter with this and warp ghost but the tradeoff is more stable dps if you manage to not blow up, which isnt super hard with the scriers

deft stump
ripe obsidian
deft stump
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Patpats @tulip kettle .

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Is just Chaos, Syllo can carry after all.

oak echo
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Is there some kind of ChAxe tech with a gunpsyker that makes it really worthwhile to run, or am I just seeing the average pub havoc party finder

zealous wing
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lmao

patent reef
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what would be the best pistol, staff, AR for the psyker class?

plucky flax
plucky flax
strong gulch
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butt knife

rancid wadi
strong gulch
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Unsheathing itself when you sit being the best case scenario. lol

quaint lark
deft stump
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Game of butt slides afterall.

rancid wadi
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Butt slides

long wharf
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which autogun are gunkers using these days?

deft stump
rancid wadi
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Now I'm hesitant to touch any slideable surface further

jovial juniper