#psyker-class
1 messages · Page 2278 of 1
being 100% honest the other two seem like hot garbage
so this is kinda crazy to hear
your only real considerations are making sure you have 500 power weapons and not to use anything that dumps damage
Just goes to show how there's depth to the game 🙂
blink blink blink. whaaa? brain burst especially paired with kinetic resonance lets you quickly get rid of that far away sniper your team refuses to deal with. with kinetic flayer it lets you hit elites for a lot of damage or kill them depending on the elite.
Assail is excellent mixed horde clear
assail is also pocket peril + damage, great for melee focused builds
So does a gun
and so does the zelot with a thunder hammer 1 shotting the plague ogryn
If you’d rather use smite I’d say that’s a comment against the quality of your melee weapon
Chainsword gets you stuck on things
do you always have a shroudfield zealot with a thammer? do you have a gun when you have an inferno stave?
sure. i guess if you're playing gunker. also, i said elites and not monstrosities. 2nd of all, you're a psyker and not a thunder hammer zealot so that's a bad comparison
No
mainly its me and 3 hive gremlins now days >.>
do you prefer turning off your teams active damage talents and blessings? locking them in bad spots? blocking the way forward? slowing people down because youre smiting not moving forward? thats the general hatred reasons for smite these days
enfeeble does not help as much as you think it does
10% feels like its allot
you're turning off people's on dodge talents and turning off zealot's +50% finesse damage talent and a lot more. the extra damage you make them take does not make up for it
you might think that but a lot of blessings and talents give significantly more than 10% and you're turning those off
You’re also ruining people’s cleave opportunities almost certainly
How am i turning them off?
That’s if you use smite on a crowd
people cant dodge if theres no attacks
Im confused
they're activated on a dodge that actually dodged an attack. if you use smite, enemies aren't attacking so they can't dodge for their blessing damage buffs
And I’ll tell you a secret, it’s so much easier and smoother when enemies are grouped up tight
its also really boring to fight frozen enemies
Why are you taking situational damage bonus abilities?
because for most classes you dodge a lot or you're dead
Stuff never really gets to me.
My whole strategy is dodging until the horde is in a cone pointed at me or circling until I can cluster them. When people smite that just means a lot of button mashing to hit every one individually
hive scum is built entirely around dodging, it even regens their stamina which in turn can make them attack faster or have more damage reduction
Ok so
NOT ONLY am i playing wrong
I fundimentally Misunderstand what the games comat loop is about
For zealots, vets and hivers you’re cancelling their healing and stamina, for psykers you’re cancelling their damage.
ogryn is just ogryn
True

I'm not going to tell you to not take smite or such. In the end I don't particularly care like most people. but i will tell you you're making zealots lose 110% ish finesse damage. you're making hive scum like damage and such. Smite has its uses like freezing an unexpected horde or dangerous things teams can't deal with cuz already too much pressure. It's just...please don't be smiting 24/7
I havent seen an ogryn in a week
ive seen one ogryn with the new voice... and that was on na east
(he was also a bad oggy) :(
and also be aware smite has its downsides as well. that's all you need to be aware of
if you choose to take smite knowing all that then well, have fun and all
I just...Like in any other game if you said "You can stun lock whole rooms and deal damage to them and make them take more damage" people would be cheering
at first it does seem good
sudden wall of armour no one can deal with quickly? works
need to cover an objective-doer? a res? works
freeze everything all the time, not fun
well thats why i took venting shriek so i wouldent have 100% up time
it's a blitz and should be used like the rest of the blitzes in the game (ie situationally)
Though the 10% is still a wasted talent point imo
also true
dont smite the bosses, btw, that can also lock people in place to not dodge the attacks of the monster if theres trash in the way))
I never did cuz my sword did more damage to them and they dont get stunned anyway
I'm so proud of you all
DOM :D
what, we didnt rip their throat out?
hey weird question chat but how would one get the new hotfix cosmetics that just came out
Hey :D
hi
Why
You accurately conveyed why smite sucks
for the drip, its a mod that lets you see all hidden cosmetics and customise them, thats how people see them
Kinda dont even wana ply psyker anymore
And discouraged someone from using it
yeah thanks >.>
thx
You shortened your name
I did
that does suck, psyker is one of the strongest classes, especially for melee, but, you can do as you please
It's not 2006 anymore I realised
for shizzle
well I dont like any of the other classes and I only really liked smite
That's unfortunate
if you want microstunlock, electrokinetic staff might work for you
does dom want to auric
Just, use it sparingly
or just quit ethe game
Im just gona go back to vermentide
I just spent 15 minutes in an H40 match with a Fanatic zealot who wouldn’t stop spamming ”Vacuum Capsule!”. Supposedly he couldn’t stop the voicelines but that was still annoying as fuck.
The pile of shame shrank by 1!
dont encourage me
If like smite then play it.
Just be aware that smite can make the game unfun for others. That is true of other things too, but smite has the biggest capacity for it.
I type slow you poop.
:D <3 sorry
I dont want to be an acive detriment that people fkn hate to play with
It's not everyone. Do whatcha wanna do.
bring somethin murdery, use smite as emergency
Emphasis on CAN.
thoughtful smite is fine, its the permasmykers we hate
It's easy to misuse smite.
There is a vid in the 5th pin that uses smite as a primer.
First thing I see when checking chat: Dom flaming Beans
Smite in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing is stupid strong and hepful.
But it can really make things worse too.
its friendly flame 
I've been trying to find what other weapons to use that's the whole point of why I came here in the first place and it devolved into, it felt like dunking on people who play like I want to play
if you like melee, bring something small but punchy like a bistol to specials
Smykers get dunked on.
Note that someone who has smite and a smyker are not the same thing.
A smyker is someone who uses smite all of the time.
1 poxer. smite.
smite the monster
smite the horde in a bad location with the enemeis all spread out
staying back still smiting that horde, not able to keep up a decent pace
Using smite to almost force good positioning, push things into choke points, restabilizing a situation etc are good uses.
whats a bistol?
bolt pistol
phone typing
What's the point of lightning staff
We say these thing everyday multiple times a day. Thing get shortened.
There a list of the more psyker specific ones in the pins.
Anytime there is a word that is not familar, ask.
Special, smaller elites, and scattered shooter killing.
There is a LBM build that can basically replace a gun, and a RMB build that has easier targeting, some CC, and is a SB snowballer for left side talents.
What's sb
other acronyms in the pins or build bonanza.
SB = soulbalze
Range is kinda shit isnt it
So far i prefer voidstrike
Hey Potato, I've been reading your threads today while trying to craft an assail build. I'm partial to using non psyker weapons on psyker, and especially guns but I don't mind psyker melee.
Anyway do you think assail would work well with an agripinaa shotgun (the slugs)? What melee weapon do you suggest (besides dueling sword and combat blade)?
lol I'll take any reccs, thanks for replying
abbreviations are good and cool
Assail pairs well with most things. You can basically assail and melee and mostly ignore gun if you like to fight. Some people like shotgun, but if you have assail and FGS, it just works.
FGS, obscurus, and deimos are melee psyker's friend. You of course can do DS, knife, rashad, etc.
not all are equal though, like why tf is twin linked stubber called twink 
I've been seeing LOT'S of force greatsword talk. It looks fun (and the sound it makes is sexy as hell) but the farming kills to warpslash seems greedy and on my difficulties so far everything seems to die before I can make use of it. Although I eventually plan for Havoc. I play Damnation rn.
CLAD IS ONLINE
Most people take recon, vraks 5, or laspistol. But you can do silly things with shotguns.
THE FRICK
this is not an issue in auric
there will be so much stuff to kill you cannot worry about kill stealing
If you don't want to do much psyker stuff but do want SG and such, talk to @quiet inlet about fyker. The least psykery psyker.
loveee my recon lasgun psyker build so I'm switching it up. But it'll still work with assail huh? When would I use assail vs recon lasgun?
rn there's so much ammo with hivescum and vets around
assail clears hordes gooderer
procs malefic momentum
gun goes brrr into reapers gunner blobs and bosses
thanks, i love playing psyker but only using magic thru blitz or melee
You want to weave assail in between non warp attacks to keep MM up
That is true whether you gun or melee a lot.
sorry, the what?
no I mean
bluntest sharp
we gotta know what the f in fyker is for
what's fyker mean
if it's scrier's gaze meleeker with kinetic flayer brain burst I will scream
just fight, fuck space magic
That's literally what I've been telling people about since bound by duty dropped, this is stolen valor 
I've ran it since it was bad
holy shit same?
even in the beta i ran gun psyker
i love the latest brain burst change
the point tax on pre-bbd bb gunker made me want to peril myself but I ran it anyways
It was buffed to make KF actually real recently tho. (real for SG)
it was worth it to see the satisfying rager skull pop as I recon lassed hordes to flames
if you want to play psyker, but mostly want to fight, be a fyker
Im having trouble finding ammo these days
Yeah, that's the bound by duty change, no?
no
I did the same with shredder auto 
Like scum recently
oh. what was the buff? I missed it
pre or post pinning fire changes?
holy shit my mods aren't throwing errors. lets see if it still crashes though
post, I'm a darktide zoomer
KF can proc and doesn't just go on cooldown at critical peril and higher now.
kf with no cooldown??
no more like no false procs
dear lord, welcome to the Salty Spitoon
oh cool
Oh I see party full.
The community's passionate hatred for gun psyker in all forms kept me going
No It still has a cool down like normal. Before it would just go on cooldown and not proc at crital peril or higher.
I see
Instead of just not proccing.
that's pretty awesome then!
ye
I still kinda miss those days. Playing psyker felt so... humbling
just with randos
I'm tempted to try a 0 talent psyker run on damnation/auric but I don't want to get flamed for griefing
Hello. Scoreboard keeps crashing my game during matches. Is there a way to fix it, for now?
I use tac axe on my main fyker build. That's fine right? (fun ofc it is but i mean how is it in viability)
definitely.
first did you update it? second did you install ovenproof plugin? third did you install the community patch for ovenproof?
Mine is working so far but I haven't gotten to scoreboard screen yet so maybe it breaks game
def a priv game or game with all friendlies first
the great thing about sg is that it's very weapon agnostic
um scrier's gaze lol
ahhh
It breaks during the game probably due to some of the hivescum talents? I cant' tell, it's the "ammo part" that breaks it. I haven't done those things. Nexusmods says last update 26 of March
but yeah! any weapon goes
got it
I've even had fun with the heavy sword on aurics w scrier's gaze
i will experiment with slug combat shotgun/assail/and some force swords later
Numeric UI needs an update too
it's been a very long time since I've used force swords
there are two more mods that should be installed: OVENPROOF PLUG IN
ok........time to try out chaos hive scum
THEN OVENPROOF PLUGIN COMMUNITY PATCH
I understand those two will fix the scoreboard?
not having errors right now but doing my first run now
Taxe good
Thank you
kay scoreboard still causing crash
Also anyone know if full bore/no respite are best in slot for agripinaa combat shotgun?
you have this?
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/514
I am not well versed in shotguns. You can probably default to the vet guide. IDK how different their needs are vs ours on shotguns.
yes
DMF and DML updated?
yep
I haven't fired the game up today so I could be fecked too.
holy image
Maybe syllo's fix?
Thanks, I think that MAY be where I got it from while crawling the discord but I'll look into the pins again to be sure.
Idk what blitz I want
Brainburst feels slow, smite is basically shadow shaman shackles from dota 2
And assail shots are deceptively high peril
Wait, these. #psyker-class message
F
I will fire up game to see I I am having issues.
I got a cassette. get checkpointed nerd
Guess I'll stick with the free brain burst on elites for now...
Try SG with WU (warp unbound). Pop SG and melee or gun then dump assail
Wat
i use brain burst when feeling blitzless because of kinetic flayer
Ye, im trust 15 lol
Picking up ammo crashes my game, I have the error does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix it if I share the error?
Also sorry for the ping but @tulip kettle @strong gulch @wraith sphinx Thoughts on chainsword/chainaxe on psyker?
Pardon me
Are the mods fixed yet? I tried enabling but the game crashed
depends on the mods, keep swinging and its derivatives work for me. Then again I haven't played since last night's hotfix. It seems scoreboard has some issues that crashes the game rn.
To mitigate assail peril gen try SG WU. You can cast at 100% peril and not explode when WU is active. LMB does less peril gen and RMB does more.
modded?
Ahhhh thankies, I'll try out again
bad
Yes, specifically an issue with the scoreboard mod it seems
do it if it makes you happy
What's the difference between lmb rmb
Chainaxe with VB has a special place in my heart.
left click is fast lower damage, right click is opposite
also peril charge difference
Hmm
faster and weaker = less peril per shard
you're so real for that (i don't know what vb is) I like the rev it up blessing on chain weapons even if it's an opportunity cost.
LMB comes out more quickly, gens less peril, and tries to go where you are looking. RMB is more peril and damage, aimed, but takes longer to do.
voidblast
ahhh so super off meta. One day sibling, one day.
or am i thinking of voidstrike
the ball one
VB is circle on ground
yeah u was thinking of voidstrike lol
i prefer voidstrike
i swear at one point voidstrike was meta
in the past
did i make that time up?
blame fatshark for that
continues to be confusing
how it feels to check old threads before they changed the names of all the marks of all weapons for some reason
Voidbleat is best
Should be Kinetistrike or smth else to avoid double Voids
Summons a sheep from the void
Voidblyat
How about trauma for voidblast
Aka it’s original name
Ahhh good ol times
which chainaxe variant do u prefer
i like high attack speed with the one that latches on lights
makes me feel like I'm really sawing thru chaff
it'd be cool if we got new staffs like the ones in vermintide
shotgun staff when?
and unique primary fires
but maybe that's neither here nor there
I don't see why gw would say no here, psyker powers are very varied in the books.
@pale prairie I fired a true solo map on scum and did have issues. so idk
I've never actually played the wargame yet so there could be something I don't know.
I can drop you my files if they are somehow different that what is available on nexus.
idk what I did tbh
are sub stats still limited to 380 points on weapons?
It is my personal wish ever since trying Psyker for the first time
Depends. I think I like the 12 more. Horde clear is not gated by pushing or PA, the PA has a strong stagger, and bleed thunderous memes are funnier (though crusher HP changes made it less funny).
I guess 12 them lol
Huh, you know what, after over 2,4k hours in this game I've always thought that Sefoni has a unique face design, like Rannick and Morrow, but turns out no, we can make our reject psyker's face a complete copy of Sefoni 
I think Hestia also has a unique face design? And Dukane for sure
is pa= power attack? Is that the special and then a heavy or something else? I understand, I think the 12 is better in the end, but the gimmick of the other one clicks with me.
if the 12 is the non latching
i hope they fix the crusher meta soon, a la chaos knights from vt2
understandable, it plays a small part in why i use guns on psyker instead of staffs
i do like both void staffs tho
roger yeah It seems to be an error with scoreboard tracking max ammo. anytime you pick up ammo it crashes
I vote that Sefoni should be a mangled nugget of a corpse in a jar with her true face appearing in our head when she speaks
I already know i am the highest contributor so i don't neeeeeeed it
Push attack
Yeah, the 4's lights get me.
There's so much potential, VT2 has so many staves they could pick from as reference
I will try picking up ammo.
well her face is scarred already, if you use a free cam mod to look closer
Anyone got any tips for melee psyker? How do I deal with crushers maulers, just use my push with force greatsword to knock them down if they pile on me?
Basically this is what her face looks like, along with the scar and tattoo
Scrier's Gaze and practice dodge mechanics. Kiting is good and great
hit them 1st, FGS has insane range
Yet her body is in perfect healthy fit condition for one constantly bathing in fluids haha
and can 1-2 tap them
if you are in a long fight with many armor enemies having a stagger or mobility ranged weapon helps
trauma staff for stagger or las pistol for move/dodge speed
what if her entire body is hydrophobic and she's not actually soaking in that jar? 
she is making the fluid
So should I be dodging 4 times into force push for melee ?
Ah so Sefoni is a wet one
just stay calm and try to position so they only come one at a time. Your stagger push interrupts even the overhead.
Turns out fall damage is enabled for enemies
balance between heavy pokes and stagger pushes while moving backwards so they don't clump around you
She may be a dead fish on the bed, mind you
give me a tag if you figure out a fix
In ture solo and meat grinder I was able to pick up ammo.
bruh she creates entire training scenarios in her fucking head. that kind of creativity is definitely not dead gish
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I will try live mission.
🤦 ofc, I should have known. For me I use push attacks near constantly (a habit from years of taxe use) so it's more of a pro than con to me.
In her head, exactly. Physically might be a different case haha
What is pleasure but the electrical synapses in your brain firing. She can push those buttons without moving a finger.
maybe it's because I have scoreboard srt up dumb
zealot has escaped containment i see
I’ll try these out. Thanks!
Force greatsword dump stat defense or warp resist?
warp
Kk thank you
krak nades feel so anemic after the rocket launcher :3
@pale prairie no issues in live mission
🙏 krak ass 🙏
Dodge and use heavies on fgs
Benefit of kraks is vet can pull them out of his stuffed full asshole in havoc
Getting Slaaneshi up in here hehe
yeah. benefit is they regen. though sometimes demo team just refuses to go off 🙁
Thats when vet get constipated he cant shit them out properly
This guy is really noob.
Too many expired rations
Krak straight outta Vets crack
guess my vet is always constipated then
Nah just needs more mods
Stop eating ogryn rations and take more fibre should fix the problem in 2-3 days
@quiet inlet
Ogryns are the only ones willing to soemtimes share rations with me 🙁
okay i've now made the most troll stim. it gives +6.25% cd
and that's it
also, good thing nobody has clips of me playing
Wdym I have a clip on youtube of clutching you in havoc 40 with 200,000 views
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=BabGA6qQ9Wpcbnge
Is that not u?
The official video for “Never Gonna Give You Up” by Rick Astley.
Never: The Autobiography 📚 OUT NOW!
Follow this link to get your copy and listen to Rick’s ‘Never’ playlist ❤️ #RickAstleyNever
https://linktr.ee/rickastleynever
“Never Gonna Give You Up” was a global smash on its release in July 1987, topping the charts in...
@pale prairie I have DMF, DML, and scordboard updated from nexus.
IDK which I did first or last but here's what I have for Ovenproof's scoreboad plugin. I think it's older than what's up on nexus but with with some combination of syllo's fixes.
See if replacing what you have with those fixes anything.
I like smite but I rarely use it. Just like an o shit button if I'm cornered with crushers.
O whoops I'm replying to something from 2 hours ago
I also have ammo pickups disabled in NumericUI from a previous bug, idk if that would have any impact tho.
I don't know code things
is the electro staff strong?
ye
i played with someone using it yesterday and he was killing everything lmfao
doesn't scale into high havocs as well as inferno or VB, but ye is very strong in aurics and maels
good to know
surge surge though
i always think scrier's gaze is funny. you're an apex predator for like the 10 seconds of warp unbound
Fix deez
nope
but they acknowledged it, at least
the hotfix fucked up scanning-distance-discovery on scanning targets
also, the hotfix "fixed" stim box proccing Chemical Dependency
and in doing so, highlighted the awkwardness in using stim box with chemical dependency via cooldowns
??
you can get the stim box back faster than you can get the stim cooldown
What's the awkwardness? Enlighten please
which means you can frequently place your stim box, getting the stim effects, without using the stim itself
Yeah but that’s whatever, you can do the same thing with stim collector
stim keeps its current cooldown timer, which frequently becomes available shortly after you've deployed your stim box
Real question is why does chem dependency even exist 😂
Ye. Karien and hexis were play hot potato with stim and tossing a box down.
so you can effectively double-tap stim boxes in close timing
honestly, Chemical Dependency needs a redesign
having a capstone ability that, without modifiers, just boosts cooldowns is extremely lackluster
would this build work with shriek over bubble..?? i mainly play auric mael https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9df8cf62-74bb-407a-b6ab-b942ad63597d/the-best-psyker-build-rats-trauma-psyker
extremely unimaginative
the fix to what I described above is to have the node that makes the stim box available when stim becomes available to also reset the stim cooldown when you deploy the stim box
I’d just change chem dep to make stims more powerful
Since that’s at least cool and gives you the ability to do something other than CDR stim 😂
I'd change it to be something chem toxin focused
Be advised that rat has a very specific play style that does not suit most player's.
If you switch to shriek you should do a nexus + blazing spirit VB because the added crits will add more damage and survivability.
Take a look in the pins for that.
like, for example, the mortis trial chem toxin spreading effect
thank you
Toxin is already comically strong tho, the base effect would have to stop being ridiculous to have a buff node
not buff the damage
make it self-spreading, reasonably
that's just one idea
the Scummer talent tree is, upon closer inspection, not imaginative at all
almost like FartShack decided they needed an easy money maker out before Xmas
And giggling to heck.
yes
getting a Chem Dependency stack just for sniffing someone else's stim was a bad call, IMO
It's like getting excited because you got to hold a stimm.
stimming from a stim but not because you took the drug
it's just your special interest
rename the class to Fart Sniffer
also, I'm glad that they bumped up the numbers a little on the rocket launcher, but it's still not enough
RL needs two upgrade nodes
one lowers blast radius but gives great single target damage with cleave for the blast cone
the other greatly increases max damage blast area
What should I name my melee psyker who uses force greatsword
oh yeah, the way they switched nodes means there's no reason for every build to have the important survivability nodes now
still need a two point dip to get Hive Brawler, but it's worth it
I hate the switch. Not enough points for the nodes I want.
And I don't even need the survivablity since it does jack for me anyway. If I get reaper'd or gunner'd, I'm literally good as dead.
The forced middle node to go from slide dodge into gunslinger.
the rocket launcher change and the chem dependency change was the best
It freed up a point for me
I think the fix for Chem Dependency is shining a light on its need for a rework
It ate 2 points and I still can't get back what I want.
Nor afford hyper-critical.
This is what I am sitting on atm
Anyone else think it sucks they fixed the cape clipping for the zealot on the new Athonian cosmetics but didnt do shit for us psykers
Like wtf is that
I had to refund it because it clips so terribly with itself. The arms clip through the cape constantly walking around the mourningstar, or even rotating it in the shop screen
You can refund premium cosmetics?
Yea you go to the forum and make a refund request

If you bought within i think the last 2 weeks they will give u ur Aquilas back and take the cosmetics
Good to know
Should just be an option in game tbh but yea
No hyper critical, no Toxinmania.
No Toxin Renewal if I go down toxin mania.
you don't really need that node to the lower-right in the middle block
I have found toxin application on melee to be iffy, honestly
My uptime on Toxin Mania is sub 40% even doing a solo auric
Things just die too quickly
Toxin mania seems to stack infinitely
I use blinders for that if I remember.
No, it caps at 3
Why does it display more then
For fun
that doesn't sound right
I know. But I'm used to having more to panic with.
Based on the number of enemies who are affected by Chem Toxin within 12.5m of Hive Scum, increases any damage by up to 15%; stacks additively with other damage buffs, and multiplicatively with power level buffs. Checks every 0.2s for toxined enemies in range. Since each toxined enemy increases damage by 5%, the maximum buff value of 15% is granted when at least 3 toxined enemies are in range.
well, that's the node I'd free up for Toxin Mania
that's why you dance around the crowd
I also run it while running toxic renewal.
having three enemies around me toxed up is easy
Y'all aren't ready for my build
I was ran an auric mortis going full toxic commander earlier
full stim box nodes, full chem dependency nodes
it was, frankly, stupid
Yup, I got 1.4 million toxin damage in havoc
shivs only for applying more toxin
I feel the box explody is a meme.
Not with my build. They die instantly. I am one-shotting anything smaller than a mauler with LMB when in rampage and adrenaline
I love exploding stim boxes
what weapon?
Mk 1 shivs
oh well yeah, in rampage and adrenaline
Just so hard to really hit with it.
For the box nodes you either take them all or none 
Shivs are more fun for me than crowbar. Even if I lose track of where I am because zooooom
Pifft. I wanna be able to run off and stab things.
Shivs are just a better combat knife
I'm considering using the auto-attack mod just for shivs
best way to play voidblast is by spamming rmb right
way too much clicking
It can be too much for me
I feel so try-hard clicking as fast as I can while dodging constantly
I hate combat knife play, but for some reason shivs are okay (barely)
Faster attack speed, easier attack pattern, and toxin knives
are we just not blowin up rn
I question the easier attack patterns. They are both equally braindead.
shivs getting free throwing knives is absolutely r-word
no reason for a melee weapon to get a whole-ass Zealot perk built-in
zealots are obsolete
Hive scum is weak remember 
Is to rub it in.
Or dual autos with free run and gun
aside from big hammer bonk, yes
the hell is twbs
Thy wrath be swift.
Thy wrath be swift
And an extra life lol
Zealots also feel faster if you need to run around in general still.
Same. Combat knife is >:( but shivs are :)
faster than Scummer?
Book support while still having decent damage, and yea ability to sprint while holding heavies
book support got nerfed into meme territory
Agreed
Did it though
At least the nonsense stealth build I have.
okay
With everything but inferno and EK RMB, yes
I get unlimited voidblasts?
You will need to use a maxed blu stimm on mobility to go fast. Zealots just do it free in a way.
Hive Scum is weak if people don't know how to dodge. And shivs are weak if people can't hit headshots.
For now.
This is just knoife 2.0.
Guess I'll just play scum this week
You be sad if you don't backstab or facestab.
I assume shivs also get the innate backstab rending like combat knife
i need Karien help\
Well, I do more than single digits poking the back of crushers, does it count?
penetration of the soul is useless for voidblast and shriek right
Wot. I don't carry.
i'm looking to free up one point and i'm not sure what to take off
You asking me? That person with 3 meme builds for zealot?
If you solo frontline, you get the least use out of unseen blade unless you abuse stealth.
Is just me.
Cos ppl aggro more to things they first see. Could be good to murder the mutie or rager on someone else though.
emphatic evasion makes sense with shriek VB?
Thus, the worst thing is that.
I guess you can sacrifice prime target.
Actually, left node in the middle. Lul.
i sacrificed prime target for Purge the Unclean
Is just enemy within but damage
You can but I rather use it to pick another defensive talent
quietude sounds better
Like kd if you haven't already
Honestly, just think in the role you do. Prime target is nice but the vet or scum should be the one killing specials and elites usually. You just hit the ones they fail to catch.
srry the scum and vet are always dead 😏
Or the melee stuff if they aren't krak'd off the face of the world.
Fine, the uncanny flamer psyker.
Pub players are mostly fine if you cover their butties
Runs always end because of specials from behibd

are they named Unsanctioned, Spoony, or Hamdolsun? if not i don't trust them
Or ehm, and suddenly, massive armoured wave at the back.
That's the fun ones 🤤
Where Hex?
Playing special rearguard gets boring after awhile
Where Beans?
i don't play with Hexis and i don't think i've ever seen Beans inferno
Where Papa?
never played with Papa
Well, Beans is more, fire trauma.
whenever i log in Hexis is already in a strike team lmao
I usually have to ask to play.
Playing with pubs is harder.
Karien is a master of all weapons and playstyles
Like idiots starting atonement when everyone had no hp but me.
Only because my ganger playstyle is literally, if I get get hit, I'm basically dead due to 300+ ping.
pubs expect nothing of me
so like if i do badly it doesn't feel bad
if i play with friends and i do badly
i feel bad and want to curl up into a little ball and die
so playing with pubs is easier
Pubs expect me to clutch but when I do, there's no thanks.
oh yeah. you'll clutch for them and they snatch all the ammo and grenades anyways
And it's extra hard cos I'm trying to get ganger wins and can't clutch with it.
idk. i just play heresy
I just need blind or blind or fart missions and like 30 auric wins or so.
I find it funny the only auric win I got, I had to play blind as kark.
why?
Lights out.
I see black with a small circle of barest of vision in the center.
Penances as well.
this is really funny with the "perils of the warp is broken" bug
you sg once to turn off auto quell at 100 and can smite for basically however long you feel like it
warp ghost is honestly throwing b/c you dont get the toughness regen when you play like a total idiot LOL
anyway i tested it and it totally works, you cant die to peril so you can just keep doing whatever forever
Okay. I've done some play testing, got something alittle different
This build feels as tanky as I need it to be, BR for ranged, staff and FGS for horde clear, staff procs the various SB stuffs that I have. This feels REALLY tanky, but I somewhat struggle with ranged targets, but that's I GUESS the downside to this build. Quietude and BCoB have a sort of feedback loop with Quelling and toughness regen.
not bad for my first time using voidblast i guess
i hate lights out
If there is ANYTHING you guys think I can sub out to be able to pick up OwtW, I'd appreciate the input.
yall prefer dueling sword or force sword deimos with voidblast?
Good idea, I have quite a bit of toughness regen already.
wait
why is this a melee using inferno?
i saw inferno and instantly thought burn but just realized LOL
Right side purgatus doesn’t work well
Flame staff CURRENTLY has 10% Warp Res, so it builds peril FAST, applies SB, swap to FGS, bonk heads, quell, regen toughness from Souldrinker plus 5%crit chance, quell and regen toughness from quietude, wildfire procs, whole buncha good stuff
Sorry, 14%
You could save yourself a lot of effort for pretty much the same result by ditching souldrinker, taking more effective perks on the sword and just killing stuff with it
I almost PRIMARILY keep sword in hand
I might actually do away with Blaze Away, I rarely alt fire
I play FGS mk8 pretty regularly. Just having sg, quietude, Bcob and warp splitting already gives you obscene amounts of toughness
And you’re giving up warp splitting for this wacky build 😂
I keep getting shit on as melee psyker in havoc
Warp Splitting and BCoB seem counter intuitive to one another personally, plus I dropped assail, didn't feel like I needed it
The gunners just fuck me up
What havoc level?
I have true survivor but any havoc level besides low havoc im just getting shit on
Other classes like arbites i can do well but psyker melee is just not working for me
Have you played it outside of havoc at all or is this new for you?
Yea I can do alright in aurics but everyone 1 shots me in havoc
empathic evasion with gun just go pew pew pew and you count as dodging
Like I do pretty well with bubble knight in havoc but I’ve been playing melee psyker for years
Mostly it’s about when you engage and making sure to dip out
Is very much a slide all the time build
Use gun to proc empathic evasion?
recon lasgun can force empathic evasion yeah
It’s not enough to let you walk at gunners thru the open
But it is enough that if you’re in melee you should be good
No, check the pins
why smite?
smite rn is funny because peril don’t work
So if you sg while smite, it lasts forever
can anyone else not overload
can only overload on inferno and EK RMB right now
why no overload
thats an absurdly massive oversight
yeah it is. but like i'm sure it'll be fixed very soon
The psyker buffs will continue until morale improves (morale has not improved in years)
lmao.
in fire reborn or psychic vampire?
for fire staff?
void blast and shriek
if you're doing blazing trauma do in fire reborn
ok bet thanks
I just wanna NOT take a Blitz, I swear
im debating if i should take just a dream on voidblast and shriek
over puppet master and penetration of the soul
why? lol
not personally a fan but maybe you can make it work for you
I just find that, in how I play and what my janky ass build is, I never really use any of em tbh
me neither lol, i just don’t know what to use my extra point on. i can probably take kinetic resonance
just take brain burst with kinetic flayer then. passive procs will add a good bit of damage
i'm a big fan of kinetic resonance but most people arent
That's TWO points of an investment.
yes for quite a bit of damage
i mean i don’t think emphatic evasion makes sense on a voidblast build compared to inferno or am i wrong?
it’s either that or KR
i don't feel it does personally. so i'm a little uncertain. but @strong gulch might know whether it does better than me
Im strained for talent points as is, and with JaD and OwtW, I kinda wanna put warp splitting back on and I dont really know where else I can lose a point lol
thanks for your opinion
EE is not bad on fire trauma. Is bad on rending trauma
Also, I kinda don't like Psychic Vampire in any build
It definitely does give you stacks, but it feels so limited
1 stack per 25 kills in coherency is bleh.
yea that is mid
Nah you get more if youre good
In Fire Reborn is not coherency limited and the enemy does not have to die to fire
Being good has nothing to do with Psychic Vampire
It's 4% chance of a stack on an enemy death in coherency
playing with 3 scum as a psyker pray for me
You get from killing specials and elites too
That has nothing to do with Psychic Vampire.
so can psyker really not blow themselves up right now? just saw a reddit video of someone not blowing up trauma spamming with bubble
Thats on top of psychic vanpire
I use it with rending trauma and surge
Can only blow up with inferno or electro RMB afaik
certified fatshark moment
Yes, but I am saying Psychic Vampire adds very little value. I still pick it, but I don't like it
You said you dont pick on any build
EE is decent on fire VB. Especially when ranged units are suppression immune or scattered. LMB is sometimes the answer.
Wtf you gonna do with rend trauma
thank you bro
is it just me or a lot of scum rush ahead and leave a big ass horde behind them
i rush ahead as scum 😄
No, I said I don't like it on any build
That is different
I would personally only take Psychic Vampire if I don't personally have much or any SB and there's a chance that I'm going to live longer than my inferno teammate.
This assumes I'm non-SB second psyker.
Scum is basically close range and need to be killing stuff to live.
So if they rush ahead on a killing spree and a teammate is behind, the game spawns shit.
makes sense
one time a big horde of crushers just spawned behind me and game over lmao
especially if they're running like rampage and adrenaline
this is a dumb question but does the 5% crit aura stack with scums or no?
So, Penetrating Flames, would it work okay as a Carapace armor debuff?
use a forcesword with uncanny, spam force push to proc it, much better
I use FGS
Melee psyker is so cracked, FSG is just better relic blade.
you use FGS, as a secondary on a staff build, bad choice
I'm just so dogwater at staying alive lmao
Its working pretty well so far
But I guess scryer's gaze is the oh shit button?
The funny thing is that the FGS is just about the only thing I use, the Staff isnt even a secondary, its tertiary, a sidearm. FGS is the star of the show and rarely leaves my hand
god the increased player hitbox is annoying
It should
it does stack
It's not really worth it for that.
yes
is that a bug or no?
yes
umm there’s a unlimited peril bug
at least i hope
sorry. we've all mutated into Ogryns
whats the big difference between blaze force sword and great sword
I carry a laspistol instead of a staff. To shoot the fellas that glow blue.
in general FGS has much better horde clear than deimos or obscurus force sword but it's a slow weapon
It's pretty fast for a slow weapon, don't let it deter anyone from trying it out
is this bad for someone new to voidblast? my second game
Copying @plucky flax name 
Is the stub revolver any good at boss damage?
only class I know its good on for sure is vet
What da hell

ty
What server are you on?
requires a very specific setup to make it work though
who is chaos
chillll
NA
I only see unsanctionedPsykers
i got that name from a youtuber
A video guide i saw recomended Heavy Laz for boss damage
is that better then the Bolt Pistol?
💀
use your melee
idk but heavy las go crazy on melee psyker
That’s him btw.
lol
sorry ur name is cool
what if im scared of getting close to people?
dont be
🫂

2 toughness curious 1 health
or
3 toughness curios
Melee space wizard
But I can reload the Bolt Pistol
so should i use that or just empty the laz mag every time
3 toughness

i run those 3 on every single one
Thats not me im also a fake
everyday we eat good
i run revive speed on every curio
It works. Just isn't good in most builds
not even the burn build for havoc 40?
No
best blessings and perks for force sword deimos?
heard thats really good
it is cuz lets you pickup teammates from both down and dead faster
might replace combat regen with that
Not cdr cos you want to spam your ability
health would be better eh
i'm naughty so i drop toughness for that 🙂

Maniac, carapace, uncanny, superiority or deflector
thanks
what about uncanny and slaught?
ah ok
I use it to poke specials, crushers, or spam push attack to build uncanny stacks
bet thanks
Only do slaughter on deimos if it's your main weapon.
But that is not how most people use deimos.
What's a fun psyker build
So far I know voidblast spam, smite and soulblaze stacking
Oh shit the entire build broke
nvm
FGS is slower to hit, has longer reach (not including the special), and an infinite cleave special that can be boosted to kill softer elites and hordes. The special can even go through walls, ceilings, or floors to undog a teammate. It's psykers best allrounder weapon.
Force swords are faster to hit and get access to uncanny strikes. Uncanny is a self buff that can boost DoT damage; so force swords are often paired with inferno. Also deimos can knock a crusher on its butt.
Assassin type build?
IDK what is fun for you. I like RMB EK shriek spam with knife as a mobility stick.
Friend, countrytoad. I have in the pins many a build. Use them. Love them.
Also melee psyker is probably the most fun.
Fair nuff
Zappy spam?
A good tac axe looks like this
Yes laspistol is good monster DPS but you have to head shot to really get that damage.
Vraks 5 is the go to gun for monster killing tho.
Recons is not as good as either of those, but it a well rounded option and easy to use.
Hmmmmmmm
empowered psionics is the best keystone btw
empowered psi with inferno 🔥
lmfao
DD is the best keystone by a wide margin. Just not best for all builds
I am an EP BB enjoyer. I take it into havocs, but EP worst keystone.
Some people tell me kinetic flayer bad
KF good
Any cool skins for the FGS?
There's 1.
ep bb is nice in havoc
The pinned build library here is so useful.
Well the free red one for master if cool
No. Only one lame one.
otherwise there's been 2 paid skins and only one of them good
Il grab the Vraks
I only have vid of the good paid one. Icefall Shard.
https://youtu.be/d9DXWgcDlIE
Close up of the Icefall Shard GFS skin in motion and some stabs.
Wha
The free mastery one is good tho
mk 6 looks good on its own
sad true aim stacks
anybody want to play a game?
I'll hop on rn
im not doing havoc atm btw just auric or below
Fine by me I'll run whatever
if you want anything in particular i'm fine with that too
No preference
i don't remember if i have you on friends list
apparently not i guess?
inv me when ready
Guess not just been inviting to party
Just making sure my Scum wasn't borked by the tree rework, still only 19
i can help you level xD
i keep thinking whether to buy the cosmetic upgrade for scum
Is it worth playing?
Hexis, wanna do havocky things?
so maybe you get lucky
Cos flamer is fine.
sure, can i be flamer
Could just be NA West, all the people here can't play shit because the frame rate's tanking below floor level
issue is on na east and some eu also
I saw reddit post saying plasma is killing frames.
hive scum also tbh
also tru
anyone know what the dump stat for blaze force great sword is?
warp resistance
also just today my mods are starting to die in the middle of games, red messages on the right side starts to appear non-stop all of a sudden
that go for ev=erytbhing?
Dunno. All I know is US W is unplayable.
basically yes. theres a few niche exceptions but, generally, warp res
well, and void strike, but id call that niche as well
warp res always the safe bet, and if you need something more specific to a build, itll say
Sorry, taking slightly longer than anticipated. Will be there momentarily, I hope
no worries
Is there room for another in havocs @ripe obsidian @zealous wing ?
Yes
kk
Thank for the runs
there's the one game i said @nocturne wasp
the first one where i failed the clutch felt very bad
Nah thos random were even worse than me
was so close too ;lkasdj;lkasjdfkl;
Shouldn't have even needed to
clutching is fun
True
if i had 1 rocket it would have made all the difference
Lol yep
i'm actually not even sure how i died that time either but oh well
Me neither
the time after i got you up then i just ....died lmao
btw that psyker second game was pretty bad too
but that arb was decent
Haha yes to both but the arb kept letting shit run up behind us trying to take my kills the whole tine. Anytime I was with him my damage was from behind
It didn't matter how many directions they were coming from he needed the ones right in front of me
I noticed. I kept dying trying to keep up lol
Clearly should have just been babysitting the psyker instead
does anyone have any good smite builds i could try out
every build i find is either super old or feels really really underwhelming and weak to use
I have builds in the pinned guide.
if discord wont send you to the doc then copy the link into your browser?
Is nimble still bugged after latest patch?
Yes
I think it's still good, you've infinite dodges anyway and faster dodges is good
