#psyker-class

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wraith sphinx
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it works well enough because in all these normal game difficulties the secret sauce is that you can run basically anything and win if you're skilled enough at the game

scarlet barn
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being 100% honest the other two seem like hot garbage
so this is kinda crazy to hear

wraith sphinx
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your only real considerations are making sure you have 500 power weapons and not to use anything that dumps damage

wraith sphinx
royal totem
zealous wing
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assail is also pocket peril + damage, great for melee focused builds

scarlet barn
gray juniper
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If you’d rather use smite I’d say that’s a comment against the quality of your melee weapon

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Chainsword gets you stuck on things

zealous wing
royal totem
scarlet barn
zealous wing
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do you prefer turning off your teams active damage talents and blessings? locking them in bad spots? blocking the way forward? slowing people down because youre smiting not moving forward? thats the general hatred reasons for smite these days

scarlet barn
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Really?

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But they cant move and take more damage

zealous wing
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enfeeble does not help as much as you think it does

scarlet barn
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10% feels like its allot

royal totem
# scarlet barn Really?

you're turning off people's on dodge talents and turning off zealot's +50% finesse damage talent and a lot more. the extra damage you make them take does not make up for it

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you might think that but a lot of blessings and talents give significantly more than 10% and you're turning those off

gray juniper
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You’re also ruining people’s cleave opportunities almost certainly

scarlet barn
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How am i turning them off?

gray juniper
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That’s if you use smite on a crowd

zealous wing
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people cant dodge if theres no attacks

scarlet barn
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Im confused

royal totem
gray juniper
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And I’ll tell you a secret, it’s so much easier and smoother when enemies are grouped up tight

zealous wing
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its also really boring to fight frozen enemies

scarlet barn
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Why are you taking situational damage bonus abilities?

zealous wing
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dodging... is not situational

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its constant

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dodging is a huge part of the game

royal totem
scarlet barn
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Stuff never really gets to me.

gray juniper
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My whole strategy is dodging until the horde is in a cone pointed at me or circling until I can cluster them. When people smite that just means a lot of button mashing to hit every one individually

zealous wing
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hive scum is built entirely around dodging, it even regens their stamina which in turn can make them attack faster or have more damage reduction

scarlet barn
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Ok so
NOT ONLY am i playing wrong
I fundimentally Misunderstand what the games comat loop is about

gray juniper
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For zealots, vets and hivers you’re cancelling their healing and stamina, for psykers you’re cancelling their damage.

zealous wing
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ogryn is just ogryn

gray juniper
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True

zealous wing
royal totem
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I'm not going to tell you to not take smite or such. In the end I don't particularly care like most people. but i will tell you you're making zealots lose 110% ish finesse damage. you're making hive scum like damage and such. Smite has its uses like freezing an unexpected horde or dangerous things teams can't deal with cuz already too much pressure. It's just...please don't be smiting 24/7

scarlet barn
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I havent seen an ogryn in a week

gray juniper
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Lmao

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I could believe that

zealous wing
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ive seen one ogryn with the new voice... and that was on na east

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(he was also a bad oggy) :(

royal totem
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and also be aware smite has its downsides as well. that's all you need to be aware of

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if you choose to take smite knowing all that then well, have fun and all

scarlet barn
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I just...Like in any other game if you said "You can stun lock whole rooms and deal damage to them and make them take more damage" people would be cheering

zealous wing
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at first it does seem good

leaden thunder
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they can if you do it at the right time

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just not all the time

zealous wing
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sudden wall of armour no one can deal with quickly? works

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need to cover an objective-doer? a res? works

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freeze everything all the time, not fun

scarlet barn
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well thats why i took venting shriek so i wouldent have 100% up time

leaden thunder
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it's a blitz and should be used like the rest of the blitzes in the game (ie situationally)

royal totem
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Though the 10% is still a wasted talent point imo

zealous wing
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also true

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dont smite the bosses, btw, that can also lock people in place to not dodge the attacks of the monster if theres trash in the way))

scarlet barn
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I never did cuz my sword did more damage to them and they dont get stunned anyway

tulip kettle
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I'm so proud of you all

zealous wing
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DOM :D

tulip kettle
zealous wing
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what, we didnt rip their throat out?

frank bloom
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hey weird question chat but how would one get the new hotfix cosmetics that just came out

tulip kettle
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Hey :D

frank bloom
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hi

royal totem
tulip kettle
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You accurately conveyed why smite sucks

zealous wing
scarlet barn
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Kinda dont even wana ply psyker anymore

tulip kettle
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And discouraged someone from using it

scarlet barn
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yeah thanks >.>

frank bloom
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thx

royal totem
tulip kettle
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I did

zealous wing
tulip kettle
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It's not 2006 anymore I realised

zealous wing
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for shizzle

scarlet barn
tulip kettle
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That's unfortunate

zealous wing
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if you want microstunlock, electrokinetic staff might work for you

tulip kettle
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Now you can learn to murder everything instead

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Also, you can take smite

zealous wing
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does dom want to auric

tulip kettle
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Just, use it sparingly

scarlet barn
tulip kettle
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He does

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Very much

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1 min

zealous wing
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i have inferno dibs

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i want more practice

tulip kettle
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bet

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Also I did this today

scarlet barn
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Im just gona go back to vermentide

mighty cipher
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I just spent 15 minutes in an H40 match with a Fanatic zealot who wouldn’t stop spamming ”Vacuum Capsule!”. Supposedly he couldn’t stop the voicelines but that was still annoying as fuck.

tulip kettle
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The pile of shame shrank by 1!

zealous wing
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NOOOOO

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the pile of shame must be refilled

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thats the rule of art

tulip kettle
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dont encourage me

zealous wing
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we must always have unfinished works

tulip kettle
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the pile is still large

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SPIT IT OUT BEANS

strong gulch
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If like smite then play it.

Just be aware that smite can make the game unfun for others. That is true of other things too, but smite has the biggest capacity for it.

strong gulch
tulip kettle
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:D <3 sorry

scarlet barn
quiet inlet
zealous wing
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bring somethin murdery, use smite as emergency

zealous wing
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thoughtful smite is fine, its the permasmykers we hate

strong gulch
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It's easy to misuse smite.

There is a vid in the 5th pin that uses smite as a primer.

marble crater
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First thing I see when checking chat: Dom flaming Beans

strong gulch
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Smite in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing is stupid strong and hepful.

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But it can really make things worse too.

tulip kettle
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its friendly flame uwugryn

strong gulch
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true frens

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Gotta cook me so I'm safe to eat.

scarlet barn
zealous wing
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if you like melee, bring something small but punchy like a bistol to specials

strong gulch
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Smykers get dunked on.

Note that someone who has smite and a smyker are not the same thing.

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A smyker is someone who uses smite all of the time.

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1 poxer. smite.

smite the monster

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smite the horde in a bad location with the enemeis all spread out

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staying back still smiting that horde, not able to keep up a decent pace

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Using smite to almost force good positioning, push things into choke points, restabilizing a situation etc are good uses.

quiet inlet
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bolt pistol

scarlet barn
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why do yall speak in code

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very hard for new people

quiet inlet
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phone typing

hollow summit
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What's the point of lightning staff

strong gulch
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We say these thing everyday multiple times a day. Thing get shortened.

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There a list of the more psyker specific ones in the pins.

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Anytime there is a word that is not familar, ask.

strong gulch
# hollow summit What's the point of lightning staff

Special, smaller elites, and scattered shooter killing.

There is a LBM build that can basically replace a gun, and a RMB build that has easier targeting, some CC, and is a SB snowballer for left side talents.

hollow summit
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What's sb

strong gulch
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other acronyms in the pins or build bonanza.

SB = soulbalze

hollow summit
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Range is kinda shit isnt it

strong gulch
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no

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Lmb has long and RMB can hit up to 25m.

hollow summit
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So far i prefer voidstrike

hollow bluff
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Hey Potato, I've been reading your threads today while trying to craft an assail build. I'm partial to using non psyker weapons on psyker, and especially guns but I don't mind psyker melee.

Anyway do you think assail would work well with an agripinaa shotgun (the slugs)? What melee weapon do you suggest (besides dueling sword and combat blade)?

tulip kettle
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im not potato but i can read their mind

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yes, and force great sword (MK6)

hollow bluff
wraith sphinx
strong gulch
wraith sphinx
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not all are equal though, like why tf is twin linked stubber called twink staregryn

hollow bluff
# tulip kettle yes, and force great sword (MK6)

I've been seeing LOT'S of force greatsword talk. It looks fun (and the sound it makes is sexy as hell) but the farming kills to warpslash seems greedy and on my difficulties so far everything seems to die before I can make use of it. Although I eventually plan for Havoc. I play Damnation rn.

tulip kettle
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CLAD IS ONLINE

strong gulch
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Most people take recon, vraks 5, or laspistol. But you can do silly things with shotguns.

tulip kettle
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THE FRICK

wraith sphinx
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there will be so much stuff to kill you cannot worry about kill stealing

strong gulch
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If you don't want to do much psyker stuff but do want SG and such, talk to @quiet inlet about fyker. The least psykery psyker.

hollow bluff
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loveee my recon lasgun psyker build so I'm switching it up. But it'll still work with assail huh? When would I use assail vs recon lasgun?

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rn there's so much ammo with hivescum and vets around

tulip kettle
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assail clears hordes gooderer

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procs malefic momentum

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gun goes brrr into reapers gunner blobs and bosses

hollow bluff
strong gulch
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You want to weave assail in between non warp attacks to keep MM up

hollow bluff
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got it

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kinda like the combat specialist on vet rhythm

strong gulch
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That is true whether you gun or melee a lot.

strong gulch
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it's a thing KEKW_ogryn

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Sharpest blunt

wraith sphinx
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no I mean

strong gulch
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bluntest sharp

hollow bluff
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we gotta know what the f in fyker is for

wraith sphinx
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what's fyker mean

strong gulch
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@quiet inlet fyker

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say your piece

wraith sphinx
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if it's scrier's gaze meleeker with kinetic flayer brain burst I will scream

strong gulch
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ye

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no mm

quiet inlet
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just fight, fuck space magic

hollow bluff
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lmao that's my main build

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ig I'm a fyker

wraith sphinx
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That's literally what I've been telling people about since bound by duty dropped, this is stolen valor staregryn

hollow bluff
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I've ran it since it was bad

wraith sphinx
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holy shit same?

hollow bluff
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even in the beta i ran gun psyker

vestal trench
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i just had a psyker in pubs do left click purg spam

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wtf

hollow bluff
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i love the latest brain burst change

wraith sphinx
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the point tax on pre-bbd bb gunker made me want to peril myself but I ran it anyways

strong gulch
hollow bluff
quiet inlet
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if you want to play psyker, but mostly want to fight, be a fyker

royal totem
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Im having trouble finding ammo these days

wraith sphinx
wraith sphinx
strong gulch
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Like scum recently

wraith sphinx
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oh. what was the buff? I missed it

hollow bluff
pale prairie
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holy shit my mods aren't throwing errors. lets see if it still crashes though

wraith sphinx
strong gulch
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KF can proc and doesn't just go on cooldown at critical peril and higher now.

wraith sphinx
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kf with no cooldown??

pale prairie
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no more like no false procs

hollow bluff
wraith sphinx
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oh cool

strong gulch
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Oh I see party full.

wraith sphinx
strong gulch
wraith sphinx
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I see

strong gulch
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Instead of just not proccing.

wraith sphinx
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that's pretty awesome then!

strong gulch
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ye

wraith sphinx
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I still kinda miss those days. Playing psyker felt so... humbling

pale prairie
wraith sphinx
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I'm tempted to try a 0 talent psyker run on damnation/auric but I don't want to get flamed for griefing

honest moon
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Hello. Scoreboard keeps crashing my game during matches. Is there a way to fix it, for now?

hollow bluff
pale prairie
hollow bluff
wraith sphinx
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the great thing about sg is that it's very weapon agnostic

hollow bluff
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sg is shotgun here? combat shotties

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i do love my shotties

wraith sphinx
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um scrier's gaze lol

hollow bluff
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ahhh

honest moon
wraith sphinx
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but yeah! any weapon goes

hollow bluff
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got it

wraith sphinx
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I've even had fun with the heavy sword on aurics w scrier's gaze

hollow bluff
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i will experiment with slug combat shotgun/assail/and some force swords later

pale prairie
hollow bluff
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it's been a very long time since I've used force swords

pale prairie
royal totem
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ok........time to try out chaos hive scum

pale prairie
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THEN OVENPROOF PLUGIN COMMUNITY PATCH

honest moon
pale prairie
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not having errors right now but doing my first run now

pale prairie
hollow bluff
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Also anyone know if full bore/no respite are best in slot for agripinaa combat shotgun?

strong gulch
strong gulch
zealous wing
strong gulch
pale prairie
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yep

strong gulch
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I haven't fired the game up today so I could be fecked too.

strong gulch
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Maybe syllo's fix?

hollow bluff
hollow summit
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Idk what blitz I want

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Brainburst feels slow, smite is basically shadow shaman shackles from dota 2

strong gulch
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IDK if this will fix anything @pale prairie .

From the 3rd.

hollow summit
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And assail shots are deceptively high peril

strong gulch
honest moon
strong gulch
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I will fire up game to see I I am having issues.

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I got a cassette. get checkpointed nerd

hollow summit
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Guess I'll stick with the free brain burst on elites for now...

strong gulch
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Try SG with WU (warp unbound). Pop SG and melee or gun then dump assail

hollow summit
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Wat

hollow bluff
hollow summit
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Ye, im trust 15 lol

rare arrow
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Picking up ammo crashes my game, I have the error does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix it if I share the error?

hollow bluff
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Also sorry for the ping but @tulip kettle @strong gulch @wraith sphinx Thoughts on chainsword/chainaxe on psyker?

restive slate
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Pardon me

Are the mods fixed yet? I tried enabling but the game crashed

hollow bluff
strong gulch
# hollow summit Wat

To mitigate assail peril gen try SG WU. You can cast at 100% peril and not explode when WU is active. LMB does less peril gen and RMB does more.

restive slate
rare arrow
strong gulch
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do it if it makes you happy

hollow summit
strong gulch
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Chainaxe with VB has a special place in my heart.

hollow bluff
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also peril charge difference

hollow summit
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Hmm

hollow bluff
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faster and weaker = less peril per shard

hollow bluff
strong gulch
hollow bluff
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or am i thinking of voidstrike

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the ball one

royal totem
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voidblast is meta

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voidstrike is.....bad

strong gulch
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VB is circle on ground

hollow bluff
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yeah u was thinking of voidstrike lol

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i prefer voidstrike

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i swear at one point voidstrike was meta

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in the past

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did i make that time up?

strong gulch
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blame fatshark for that

continues to be confusing

hollow bluff
zinc phoenix
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Voidbleat is best

restive slate
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Should be Kinetistrike or smth else to avoid double Voids

zinc phoenix
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Summons a sheep from the void

restive slate
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Voidblyat

zinc phoenix
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Aka it’s original name

restive slate
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Ahhh good ol times

hollow bluff
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i like high attack speed with the one that latches on lights

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makes me feel like I'm really sawing thru chaff

hollow bluff
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shotgun staff when?

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and unique primary fires

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but maybe that's neither here nor there

royal totem
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never kek.

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gamesworkshop says no probs

hollow bluff
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I don't see why gw would say no here, psyker powers are very varied in the books.

strong gulch
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@pale prairie I fired a true solo map on scum and did have issues. so idk

hollow bluff
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I've never actually played the wargame yet so there could be something I don't know.

strong gulch
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I can drop you my files if they are somehow different that what is available on nexus.

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idk what I did tbh

rare arrow
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are sub stats still limited to 380 points on weapons?

restive slate
strong gulch
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I guess 12 them lol

vernal temple
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Huh, you know what, after over 2,4k hours in this game I've always thought that Sefoni has a unique face design, like Rannick and Morrow, but turns out no, we can make our reject psyker's face a complete copy of Sefoni loregryn

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I think Hestia also has a unique face design? And Dukane for sure

hollow bluff
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if the 12 is the non latching

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i hope they fix the crusher meta soon, a la chaos knights from vt2

hollow bluff
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i do like both void staffs tho

pale prairie
restive slate
pale prairie
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I already know i am the highest contributor so i don't neeeeeeed it

strong gulch
restive slate
vernal temple
blissful granite
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Anyone got any tips for melee psyker? How do I deal with crushers maulers, just use my push with force greatsword to knock them down if they pile on me?

vernal temple
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Basically this is what her face looks like, along with the scar and tattoo

pale prairie
verbal thistle
restive slate
verbal thistle
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and can 1-2 tap them

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if you are in a long fight with many armor enemies having a stagger or mobility ranged weapon helps

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trauma staff for stagger or las pistol for move/dodge speed

vernal temple
blissful granite
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So should I be dodging 4 times into force push for melee ?

restive slate
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Ah so Sefoni is a wet one

pale prairie
mighty cipher
pale prairie
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balance between heavy pokes and stagger pushes while moving backwards so they don't clump around you

pale prairie
restive slate
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She may be a dead fish on the bed, mind you

pale prairie
strong gulch
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In ture solo and meat grinder I was able to pick up ammo.

pale prairie
pale prairie
strong gulch
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I will try live mission.

hollow bluff
restive slate
pale prairie
strong gulch
tulip kettle
zealous wing
pale prairie
blissful granite
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Force greatsword dump stat defense or warp resist?

verbal thistle
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warp

blissful granite
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Kk thank you

royal totem
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krak nades feel so anemic after the rocket launcher :3

strong gulch
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@pale prairie no issues in live mission

zinc phoenix
blissful granite
restive slate
royal totem
blissful granite
plucky flax
blissful granite
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Too many expired rations

restive slate
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Krak straight outta Vets crack

royal totem
pale prairie
blissful granite
zealous wing
royal totem
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Ogryns are the only ones willing to soemtimes share rations with me 🙁

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okay i've now made the most troll stim. it gives +6.25% cd

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and that's it

zealous wing
royal totem
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also, good thing nobody has clips of me playing

zealous wing
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surely

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not like i have one kekw

blissful granite
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zealous wing
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lmfao

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fail

strong gulch
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See if replacing what you have with those fixes anything.

main wyvern
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I like smite but I rarely use it. Just like an o shit button if I'm cornered with crushers.

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O whoops I'm replying to something from 2 hours ago

strong gulch
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I also have ammo pickups disabled in NumericUI from a previous bug, idk if that would have any impact tho.

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I don't know code things

heavy dagger
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is the electro staff strong?

strong gulch
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ye

heavy dagger
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i played with someone using it yesterday and he was killing everything lmfao

strong gulch
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doesn't scale into high havocs as well as inferno or VB, but ye is very strong in aurics and maels

heavy dagger
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good to know

royal totem
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surge surge though

strong gulch
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Still does scale like inferno.

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Is strong but ye

royal totem
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i always think scrier's gaze is funny. you're an apex predator for like the 10 seconds of warp unbound

void perch
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did they fix hitbox and server

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with

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erm

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the patch

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o whtaver it is

royal totem
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i didn't read anything about them fixing that

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but idk

plucky flax
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Fix deez

long wharf
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nope

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but they acknowledged it, at least

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the hotfix fucked up scanning-distance-discovery on scanning targets

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also, the hotfix "fixed" stim box proccing Chemical Dependency

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and in doing so, highlighted the awkwardness in using stim box with chemical dependency via cooldowns

long wharf
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you can get the stim box back faster than you can get the stim cooldown

restive slate
long wharf
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which means you can frequently place your stim box, getting the stim effects, without using the stim itself

zinc phoenix
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Yeah but that’s whatever, you can do the same thing with stim collector

long wharf
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stim keeps its current cooldown timer, which frequently becomes available shortly after you've deployed your stim box

zinc phoenix
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Real question is why does chem dependency even exist 😂

strong gulch
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Ye. Karien and hexis were play hot potato with stim and tossing a box down.

long wharf
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so you can effectively double-tap stim boxes in close timing

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honestly, Chemical Dependency needs a redesign

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having a capstone ability that, without modifiers, just boosts cooldowns is extremely lackluster

heavy dagger
long wharf
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extremely unimaginative

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the fix to what I described above is to have the node that makes the stim box available when stim becomes available to also reset the stim cooldown when you deploy the stim box

zinc phoenix
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I’d just change chem dep to make stims more powerful

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Since that’s at least cool and gives you the ability to do something other than CDR stim 😂

long wharf
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I'd change it to be something chem toxin focused

strong gulch
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Be advised that rat has a very specific play style that does not suit most player's.

If you switch to shriek you should do a nexus + blazing spirit VB because the added crits will add more damage and survivability.

Take a look in the pins for that.

long wharf
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like, for example, the mortis trial chem toxin spreading effect

zinc phoenix
long wharf
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not buff the damage

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make it self-spreading, reasonably

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that's just one idea

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the Scummer talent tree is, upon closer inspection, not imaginative at all

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almost like FartShack decided they needed an easy money maker out before Xmas

strong gulch
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yes

long wharf
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getting a Chem Dependency stack just for sniffing someone else's stim was a bad call, IMO

strong gulch
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It's like getting excited because you got to hold a stimm.

long wharf
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yeah

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Premature Capstone Proccing is a serious problem, consult your doctor today

strong gulch
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stimming from a stim but not because you took the drug

it's just your special interest

long wharf
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rename the class to Fart Sniffer

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also, I'm glad that they bumped up the numbers a little on the rocket launcher, but it's still not enough

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RL needs two upgrade nodes

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one lowers blast radius but gives great single target damage with cleave for the blast cone

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the other greatly increases max damage blast area

ripe obsidian
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I am pleased they reworked the tree a little.

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And fixed Hyper Critical

blissful granite
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What should I name my melee psyker who uses force greatsword

long wharf
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oh yeah, the way they switched nodes means there's no reason for every build to have the important survivability nodes now

#

still need a two point dip to get Hive Brawler, but it's worth it

deft stump
#

And I don't even need the survivablity since it does jack for me anyway. If I get reaper'd or gunner'd, I'm literally good as dead.

long wharf
#

focused? absolutely

#

but that split second between dodge windows? crucial

deft stump
#

The forced middle node to go from slide dodge into gunslinger.

sturdy reef
#

the rocket launcher change and the chem dependency change was the best

ripe obsidian
long wharf
#

I think the fix for Chem Dependency is shining a light on its need for a rework

deft stump
#

Nor afford hyper-critical.

ripe obsidian
#

This is what I am sitting on atm

blissful granite
#

Anyone else think it sucks they fixed the cape clipping for the zealot on the new Athonian cosmetics but didnt do shit for us psykers

#

Like wtf is that

#

I had to refund it because it clips so terribly with itself. The arms clip through the cape constantly walking around the mourningstar, or even rotating it in the shop screen

potent echo
#

You can refund premium cosmetics?

blissful granite
#

Yea you go to the forum and make a refund request

potent echo
blissful granite
#

If you bought within i think the last 2 weeks they will give u ur Aquilas back and take the cosmetics

potent echo
#

Good to know

blissful granite
#

Should just be an option in game tbh but yea

deft stump
#

No hyper critical, no Toxinmania.

#

No Toxin Renewal if I go down toxin mania.

long wharf
#

you don't really need that node to the lower-right in the middle block

ripe obsidian
#

I have found toxin application on melee to be iffy, honestly

#

My uptime on Toxin Mania is sub 40% even doing a solo auric

#

Things just die too quickly

weary crane
#

Toxin mania seems to stack infinitely

deft stump
ripe obsidian
weary crane
#

Why does it display more then

ripe obsidian
#

For fun

long wharf
#

that doesn't sound right

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

Based on the number of enemies who are affected by Chem Toxin within 12.5m of Hive Scum, increases any damage by up to 15%; stacks additively with other damage buffs, and multiplicatively with power level buffs. Checks every 0.2s for toxined enemies in range. Since each toxined enemy increases damage by 5%, the maximum buff value of 15% is granted when at least 3 toxined enemies are in range.

long wharf
#

well, that's the node I'd free up for Toxin Mania

long wharf
deft stump
long wharf
#

having three enemies around me toxed up is easy

weary crane
#

Y'all aren't ready for my build

long wharf
#

I was ran an auric mortis going full toxic commander earlier

#

full stim box nodes, full chem dependency nodes

#

it was, frankly, stupid

weary crane
long wharf
#

shivs only for applying more toxin

deft stump
#

I feel the box explody is a meme.

ripe obsidian
long wharf
#

I love exploding stim boxes

ripe obsidian
#

Mk 1 shivs

long wharf
#

oh well yeah, in rampage and adrenaline

deft stump
#

Just so hard to really hit with it.

long wharf
#

I don't use shivs with that

#

I go crowbar

weary crane
#

For the box nodes you either take them all or none KEKW_ogryn

ripe obsidian
#

Shivs are more fun for me than crowbar. Even if I lose track of where I am because zooooom

long wharf
#

boy does it ever zoom

#

it's almost too much for me

deft stump
weary crane
#

Shivs are just a better combat knife

long wharf
#

I'm considering using the auto-attack mod just for shivs

heavy dagger
#

best way to play voidblast is by spamming rmb right

long wharf
#

way too much clicking

ripe obsidian
long wharf
#

I feel so try-hard clicking as fast as I can while dodging constantly

#

I hate combat knife play, but for some reason shivs are okay (barely)

weary crane
craggy mulch
#

are we just not blowin up rn

deft stump
long wharf
#

shivs getting free throwing knives is absolutely r-word

#

no reason for a melee weapon to get a whole-ass Zealot perk built-in

royal totem
#

zealots are obsolete

weary crane
potent echo
#

Or dual autos with free run and gun

long wharf
#

aside from big hammer bonk, yes

potent echo
#

Zealot has twbs though

royal totem
#

the hell is twbs

deft stump
potent echo
#

Thy wrath be swift

weary crane
#

And an extra life lol

deft stump
#

Zealots also feel faster if you need to run around in general still.

ripe obsidian
long wharf
#

faster than Scummer?

potent echo
#

Book support while still having decent damage, and yea ability to sprint while holding heavies

long wharf
#

book support got nerfed into meme territory

potent echo
#

Did it though

deft stump
long wharf
#

okay

ripe obsidian
potent echo
#

I get unlimited voidblasts?

deft stump
# long wharf okay

You will need to use a maxed blu stimm on mobility to go fast. Zealots just do it free in a way.

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
potent echo
#

Guess I'll just play scum this week

deft stump
#

You be sad if you don't backstab or facestab.

potent echo
#

I assume shivs also get the innate backstab rending like combat knife

royal totem
deft stump
heavy dagger
#

penetration of the soul is useless for voidblast and shriek right

deft stump
zinc phoenix
#

im doing some mega fuckin heresy tonight

#

yes indeed i am a dirty little heretic

royal totem
deft stump
royal totem
#

yes

#

not too many people i trust so yeah

deft stump
# royal totem yes

If you solo frontline, you get the least use out of unseen blade unless you abuse stealth.

#

Is just me.

royal totem
#

mmmm i see

#

i think i have to unseen blade to go down the tree though 🤔

deft stump
#

Cos ppl aggro more to things they first see. Could be good to murder the mutie or rager on someone else though.

heavy dagger
#

emphatic evasion makes sense with shriek VB?

deft stump
#

I guess you can sacrifice prime target.

royal totem
#

what you think i should take shield of contempt instead? xD

#

welp,

deft stump
royal totem
#

i sacrificed prime target for Purge the Unclean

deft stump
#

Is just enemy within but damage

potent echo
heavy dagger
potent echo
#

Like kd if you haven't already

deft stump
royal totem
#

srry the scum and vet are always dead 😏

deft stump
#

Or the melee stuff if they aren't krak'd off the face of the world.

deft stump
potent echo
#

Pub players are mostly fine if you cover their butties

#

Runs always end because of specials from behibd

royal totem
deft stump
potent echo
#

That's the fun ones 🤤

potent echo
#

Playing special rearguard gets boring after awhile

deft stump
#

Where Beans?

royal totem
deft stump
#

Where Papa?

royal totem
#

never played with Papa

deft stump
royal totem
#

whenever i log in Hexis is already in a strike team lmao

deft stump
royal totem
#

i don't ask people to play

#

playing with people is too hard for me

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

Karien is a master of all weapons and playstyles

royal totem
#

playing with pubs

#

is way easier

#

what are you talking about

deft stump
#

Like idiots starting atonement when everyone had no hp but me.

#

Only because my ganger playstyle is literally, if I get get hit, I'm basically dead due to 300+ ping.

royal totem
#

pubs expect nothing of me

#

so like if i do badly it doesn't feel bad

#

if i play with friends and i do badly

#

i feel bad and want to curl up into a little ball and die

#

so playing with pubs is easier

deft stump
royal totem
#

oh yeah. you'll clutch for them and they snatch all the ammo and grenades anyways

deft stump
#

And it's extra hard cos I'm trying to get ganger wins and can't clutch with it.

royal totem
#

idk. i just play heresy

deft stump
#

I just need blind or blind or fart missions and like 30 auric wins or so.

#

I find it funny the only auric win I got, I had to play blind as kark.

royal totem
#

why?

deft stump
#

I see black with a small circle of barest of vision in the center.

#

Penances as well.

zinc phoenix
#

you sg once to turn off auto quell at 100 and can smite for basically however long you feel like it

#

warp ghost is honestly throwing b/c you dont get the toughness regen when you play like a total idiot LOL

#

anyway i tested it and it totally works, you cant die to peril so you can just keep doing whatever forever

astral finch
#

Okay. I've done some play testing, got something alittle different

#

This build feels as tanky as I need it to be, BR for ranged, staff and FGS for horde clear, staff procs the various SB stuffs that I have. This feels REALLY tanky, but I somewhat struggle with ranged targets, but that's I GUESS the downside to this build. Quietude and BCoB have a sort of feedback loop with Quelling and toughness regen.

heavy dagger
#

not bad for my first time using voidblast i guess

royal totem
astral finch
royal totem
#

probs warp expenditure?

#

unsure

heavy dagger
#

yall prefer dueling sword or force sword deimos with voidblast?

astral finch
royal totem
#

wait

#

why is this a melee using inferno?

#

i saw inferno and instantly thought burn but just realized LOL

astral finch
#

Oh its a hoot

#

So

zinc phoenix
#

Right side purgatus doesn’t work well

astral finch
#

Flame staff CURRENTLY has 10% Warp Res, so it builds peril FAST, applies SB, swap to FGS, bonk heads, quell, regen toughness from Souldrinker plus 5%crit chance, quell and regen toughness from quietude, wildfire procs, whole buncha good stuff

#

Sorry, 14%

zinc phoenix
#

You could save yourself a lot of effort for pretty much the same result by ditching souldrinker, taking more effective perks on the sword and just killing stuff with it

astral finch
#

I almost PRIMARILY keep sword in hand

#

I might actually do away with Blaze Away, I rarely alt fire

zinc phoenix
#

I play FGS mk8 pretty regularly. Just having sg, quietude, Bcob and warp splitting already gives you obscene amounts of toughness

#

And you’re giving up warp splitting for this wacky build 😂

blissful granite
#

I keep getting shit on as melee psyker in havoc

astral finch
#

Warp Splitting and BCoB seem counter intuitive to one another personally, plus I dropped assail, didn't feel like I needed it

blissful granite
#

The gunners just fuck me up

zinc phoenix
blissful granite
#

Other classes like arbites i can do well but psyker melee is just not working for me

zinc phoenix
blissful granite
#

Yea I can do alright in aurics but everyone 1 shots me in havoc

royal totem
zinc phoenix
#

Like I do pretty well with bubble knight in havoc but I’ve been playing melee psyker for years

#

Mostly it’s about when you engage and making sure to dip out

#

Is very much a slide all the time build

blissful granite
zinc phoenix
#

Yeah and assail

#

You want to attack constantly while sliding ideally

royal totem
zinc phoenix
#

It’s not enough to let you walk at gunners thru the open

#

But it is enough that if you’re in melee you should be good

zinc phoenix
#

smite rn is funny because peril don’t work

#

So if you sg while smite, it lasts forever

half pebble
#

can anyone else not overload

royal totem
#

can only overload on inferno and EK RMB right now

half pebble
half pebble
royal totem
half pebble
#

please be soon

#

oml psykers just being invincible

prime elk
#

The psyker buffs will continue until morale improves (morale has not improved in years)

royal totem
#

lmao.

heavy dagger
#

in fire reborn or psychic vampire?

royal totem
#

for fire staff?

heavy dagger
#

void blast and shriek

royal totem
#

if you're doing blazing trauma do in fire reborn

heavy dagger
#

ok bet thanks

astral finch
#

I just wanna NOT take a Blitz, I swear

heavy dagger
#

im debating if i should take just a dream on voidblast and shriek

#

over puppet master and penetration of the soul

royal totem
royal totem
astral finch
# royal totem why? lol

I just find that, in how I play and what my janky ass build is, I never really use any of em tbh

heavy dagger
royal totem
royal totem
astral finch
royal totem
heavy dagger
#

it’s either that or KR

royal totem
astral finch
#

Im strained for talent points as is, and with JaD and OwtW, I kinda wanna put warp splitting back on and I dont really know where else I can lose a point lol

ripe obsidian
#

Also, I kinda don't like Psychic Vampire in any build

heavy dagger
#

okkk thank you

#

my build does crit a lot i’ll put EE on

ripe obsidian
#

It definitely does give you stacks, but it feels so limited

#

1 stack per 25 kills in coherency is bleh.

heavy dagger
#

yea that is mid

plucky flax
#

Nah you get more if youre good

ripe obsidian
#

In Fire Reborn is not coherency limited and the enemy does not have to die to fire

ripe obsidian
#

It's 4% chance of a stack on an enemy death in coherency

heavy dagger
#

playing with 3 scum as a psyker pray for me

plucky flax
ripe obsidian
silver echo
#

so can psyker really not blow themselves up right now? just saw a reddit video of someone not blowing up trauma spamming with bubble

plucky flax
#

I use it with rending trauma and surge

ripe obsidian
silver echo
#

KEKW_ogryn certified fatshark moment

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
#

You said you dont pick on any build

strong gulch
plucky flax
#

Wtf you gonna do with rend trauma

heavy dagger
#

is it just me or a lot of scum rush ahead and leave a big ass horde behind them

ripe obsidian
#

That is different

strong gulch
#

I would personally only take Psychic Vampire if I don't personally have much or any SB and there's a chance that I'm going to live longer than my inferno teammate.

This assumes I'm non-SB second psyker.

strong gulch
heavy dagger
#

makes sense

#

one time a big horde of crushers just spawned behind me and game over lmao

royal totem
#

especially if they're running like rampage and adrenaline

heavy dagger
#

this is a dumb question but does the 5% crit aura stack with scums or no?

astral finch
#

So, Penetrating Flames, would it work okay as a Carapace armor debuff?

dull scroll
restive roost
#

Melee psyker is so cracked, FSG is just better relic blade.

dull scroll
#

you use FGS, as a secondary on a staff build, bad choice

restive roost
#

I'm just so dogwater at staying alive lmao

astral finch
restive roost
#

But I guess scryer's gaze is the oh shit button?

astral finch
#

The funny thing is that the FGS is just about the only thing I use, the Staff isnt even a secondary, its tertiary, a sidearm. FGS is the star of the show and rarely leaves my hand

urban creek
#

Scryers gaze is the booger Sugar button for us melee space wizards

#

GOTTA GO FAST

sturdy reef
#

god the increased player hitbox is annoying

sturdy reef
#

it does stack

strong gulch
plucky flax
sturdy reef
#

yes

plucky flax
#

Hmm reapers gonna be more annoying now

#

I die in 0.1s rather than 0.2s

sturdy reef
#

try spawn lol

#

move u everywhere

royal totem
sturdy reef
#

yes

heavy dagger
#

umm there’s a unlimited peril bug

sturdy reef
#

at least i hope

royal totem
scarlet barn
#

whats the big difference between blaze force sword and great sword

royal totem
#

one is slow and hits harder

#

kinda

restive roost
royal totem
restive roost
#

It's pretty fast for a slow weapon, don't let it deter anyone from trying it out

heavy dagger
#

is this bad for someone new to voidblast? my second game

mortal notch
#

Does penetration of the soul work yet?

#

i know for close to a year it didnt

last shore
scarlet barn
#

Is the stub revolver any good at boss damage?

mortal notch
plucky flax
mortal notch
sturdy reef
#

who is chaos

heavy dagger
sturdy reef
#

I only see unsanctionedPsykers

heavy dagger
#

i got that name from a youtuber

scarlet barn
#

A video guide i saw recomended Heavy Laz for boss damage
is that better then the Bolt Pistol?

last shore
#

💀

sturdy reef
#

use your melee

heavy dagger
sturdy reef
#

heavy laspistol is fine

#

is good

heavy dagger
#

infernum and dum dum

#

whatever it is

last shore
sturdy reef
#

lol

heavy dagger
#

oh shit

#

i didnt even know

#

lmfaooooooo

heavy dagger
scarlet barn
sturdy reef
#

dont be

scarlet barn
sturdy reef
scarlet barn
#

So I HAVE a strange problem

#

I cant reload the heavy laz pistol

restive roost
#

2 toughness curious 1 health
or
3 toughness curios
Melee space wizard

scarlet barn
#

But I can reload the Bolt Pistol

#

so should i use that or just empty the laz mag every time

restive roost
heavy dagger
plucky flax
heavy dagger
#

everyday we eat good

royal totem
#

i run revive speed on every curio

ripe obsidian
mortal notch
plucky flax
#

No

heavy dagger
#

best blessings and perks for force sword deimos?

heavy dagger
royal totem
#

it is cuz lets you pickup teammates from both down and dead faster

heavy dagger
#

might replace combat regen with that

plucky flax
#

Not cdr cos you want to spam your ability

heavy dagger
#

health would be better eh

royal totem
ripe obsidian
heavy dagger
#

thanks

heavy dagger
ripe obsidian
#

Ehhhh

#

Deimos doesn't have great horde clear

heavy dagger
#

ah ok

ripe obsidian
#

I use it to poke specials, crushers, or spam push attack to build uncanny stacks

heavy dagger
#

bet thanks

strong gulch
#

Only do slaughter on deimos if it's your main weapon.

#

But that is not how most people use deimos.

hollow summit
#

What's a fun psyker build

#

So far I know voidblast spam, smite and soulblaze stacking

patent jacinth
#

Oh shit the entire build broke

#

nvm

strong gulch
# scarlet barn whats the big difference between blaze force sword and great sword

FGS is slower to hit, has longer reach (not including the special), and an infinite cleave special that can be boosted to kill softer elites and hordes. The special can even go through walls, ceilings, or floors to undog a teammate. It's psykers best allrounder weapon.

Force swords are faster to hit and get access to uncanny strikes. Uncanny is a self buff that can boost DoT damage; so force swords are often paired with inferno. Also deimos can knock a crusher on its butt.

strong gulch
ripe obsidian
patent jacinth
#

Go

#

Run with tac axe and laspistol

#

Run at things

#

Hit them

#

Win

hollow summit
#

Fair nuff

patent jacinth
#

A good tac axe looks like this

strong gulch
strong gulch
#

no smite

#

Just slide and zap

#

throw ball sometimes

hollow summit
#

Hmmmmmmm

heavy dagger
#

empowered psionics is the best keystone btw

strong gulch
#

no

#

only boosts blitz

heavy dagger
#

empowered psi with inferno 🔥

zealous wing
#

lmfao

ripe obsidian
#

DD is the best keystone by a wide margin. Just not best for all builds

strong gulch
#

I am an EP BB enjoyer. I take it into havocs, but EP worst keystone.

hollow summit
#

Some people tell me kinetic flayer bad

strong gulch
#

KF good

restive roost
#

Any cool skins for the FGS?

strong gulch
#

There's 1.

sturdy reef
#

ep bb is nice in havoc

wise nymph
#

The pinned build library here is so useful.

strong gulch
#

Well the free red one for master if cool

wise nymph
strong gulch
#

otherwise there's been 2 paid skins and only one of them good

restive roost
#

Yeah show the paid ones

#

Unfortunately no FGS skins from Hallowette this cycle

strong gulch
restive roost
strong gulch
#

The free mastery one is good tho

patent jacinth
#

mk 6 looks good on its own

strong gulch
#

sad true aim stacks

royal totem
#

anybody want to play a game?

nocturne wasp
royal totem
#

im not doing havoc atm btw just auric or below

nocturne wasp
#

Fine by me I'll run whatever

royal totem
#

if you want anything in particular i'm fine with that too

nocturne wasp
#

No preference

royal totem
#

i don't remember if i have you on friends list

#

apparently not i guess?

#

inv me when ready

nocturne wasp
#

Guess not just been inviting to party

#

Just making sure my Scum wasn't borked by the tree rework, still only 19

royal totem
#

i can help you level xD

nocturne wasp
#

Sweet

#

Friend request sent

#

Crashed

royal totem
#

i keep thinking whether to buy the cosmetic upgrade for scum

dull scroll
#

Fatshark servers hitting new low

#

it's so bad out there right now

plucky flax
#

Is it worth playing?

zealous wing
#

depends

#

ive had no issues, but others have

ripe obsidian
#

Hexis, wanna do havocky things?

zealous wing
#

so maybe you get lucky

deft stump
zealous wing
ripe obsidian
#

Do what thou wishest

#

I need like 3 minutes

plucky flax
#

Karien I am kind of free now.

#

Dunno if server issue is affecting asia.

dull scroll
plucky flax
#

Oh it's a problem with plasma vet apparently.

#

Play bolter vet for now.

zealous wing
#

issue is on na east and some eu also

plucky flax
#

I saw reddit post saying plasma is killing frames.

zealous wing
#

hive scum also tbh

dull scroll
#

no, nobody is using plasma

#

in any of the games

zealous wing
#

also tru

empty bloom
#

anyone know what the dump stat for blaze force great sword is?

zealous wing
#

warp resistance

dull scroll
#

also just today my mods are starting to die in the middle of games, red messages on the right side starts to appear non-stop all of a sudden

empty bloom
deft stump
zealous wing
#

well, and void strike, but id call that niche as well

#

warp res always the safe bet, and if you need something more specific to a build, itll say

ripe obsidian
#

Sorry, taking slightly longer than anticipated. Will be there momentarily, I hope

zealous wing
#

no worries

strong gulch
#

Is there room for another in havocs @ripe obsidian @zealous wing ?

ripe obsidian
#

Yes

strong gulch
#

kk

nocturne wasp
#

Thank for the runs

royal totem
#

there's the one game i said @nocturne wasp

#

the first one where i failed the clutch felt very bad

nocturne wasp
#

Nah thos random were even worse than me

royal totem
#

was so close too ;lkasdj;lkasjdfkl;

nocturne wasp
#

Shouldn't have even needed to

royal totem
#

clutching is fun

nocturne wasp
#

True

royal totem
#

if i had 1 rocket it would have made all the difference

nocturne wasp
#

Lol yep

royal totem
#

i'm actually not even sure how i died that time either but oh well

nocturne wasp
#

Me neither

royal totem
#

the time after i got you up then i just ....died lmao

#

btw that psyker second game was pretty bad too

#

but that arb was decent

nocturne wasp
#

Haha yes to both but the arb kept letting shit run up behind us trying to take my kills the whole tine. Anytime I was with him my damage was from behind

#

It didn't matter how many directions they were coming from he needed the ones right in front of me

royal totem
#

Yeah idk

#

I soloed obj at end

nocturne wasp
#

I noticed. I kept dying trying to keep up lol

#

Clearly should have just been babysitting the psyker instead

iron mulch
#

does anyone have any good smite builds i could try out
every build i find is either super old or feels really really underwhelming and weak to use

ripe obsidian
#

I have builds in the pinned guide.

iron mulch
#

small issue

#

the doc wont load

#

at all

#

my discord is refusing to let me see it

zealous wing
#

if discord wont send you to the doc then copy the link into your browser?

plucky flax
#

Is nimble still bugged after latest patch?

cosmic sigil
#

Yes

summer prairie
#

I think it's still good, you've infinite dodges anyway and faster dodges is good