psyker-class

[zealous wing]

i mean the others too

[ripe obsidian]

Ohhhh

Like Battle Med

[zealous wing]

battlemed, ER

[ripe obsidian]

I use ER + WG on bubble inferno

[zealous wing]

also ES a choice

[woven patrol]

Just buy any weapon that looks good?

[ripe obsidian]

Battle Med is... a choice. Agent uses it for gambling

[ripe obsidian]

I strongly dislike ES on inferno

[last shore]

thhanks by the way

[zealous wing]

the armoury part, random grey weapon

[ripe obsidian]

Oh no

[zealous wing]

spam buy, then keep the stat you want, upgrade rest to green and sacrifice for mastery

[last shore]

I'll give the new build a try later this month, waiting on friiend to finish exams so we can grind h40 on hive scum, we wanna hiit h40 with it

[zealous wing]

fine at least

[ripe obsidian]

Happy to help. If you have more feedback on the guide, do offer it. Is why I keep a changelog, so people know I update it as I get feedback

[ripe obsidian]

Quell speed dump, but a fancy 381 quell speed dump

[zealous wing]

they said they main bubble, didnt want shriek

[last shore]

adding that aura in the middle was a good change tbh

psy aura

[woven patrol]

I havnt been able to find any with 80% stats, or gotten up to 500 ilv.

RNG?

[zealous wing]

hang on a sec here

[ripe obsidian]

It's not the worst build I have seen, but I don't think it's particularly strong. It would succeed in H40 with a good player, but it's not optimal

[marble crater]

Every weapon can reach 500, you need to level it up at Hadron

[zealous wing]

im confused

[woven patrol]

I'm capped out at 490, not sure why.

[zealous wing]

do you have the materials for it?

[woven patrol]

Yea I've got plenty, does it just upgrade to 500 if you do it again?

[zealous wing]

yes thats how upgrading works

[woven patrol]

...damn, I think I just stopped at gold and thought that was it

[zealous wing]

gold is the highest consecration

what you want is empower

[woven patrol]

...alright I'll have to look again when I'm back from work.

Cause now I'm not sure, I would have just done that if it was there.

[zealous wing]

empower makes the number go up, to 500 max, consecrate is to add more perks/blessings, max of 2 of each

and refine is to swap perks, rebless to put different blessings on

[gray juniper]

New gun psyker tree is made easy to reach critical nodes. It’s reasonable to pick up things like battle meditation and other extras

[nocturne dust]

[ripe obsidian]

Krieger and DeadVoid today?

Wowzers

[zealous wing]

who's next

[woven patrol]

Jesus christ... I stopped once I saw the color....fml

[zealous wing]

oof

but hey you know now

[woven patrol]

Thx

[strong gulch]

@lethal lagoon next 🙏

[nocturne dust]

-# Yeah, weird of them to put it in a new class called "Scum" tho, we already know what the arbitrators think of us

[zealous wing]

speaking of

loner mentioned liking the m anarchist

took the hatred off of him

[lethal lagoon]

[ripe obsidian]

Hexis!

Invite me to Havoc pls

I want to play scum but I don't want to play with randoms

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sauron-eye-tower-lord-of-the-rings-i-see-you-gif-25761843

[zealous wing]

grumble

sec

[strong gulch]

Atlas is here. Yay.

[zealous wing]

i have an 18

[sinful temple]

What blessings for the Blaze Force Greatsword?

[zealous wing]

unstable power

[lethal lagoon]

[zealous wing]

then, shred, wrath, deflector, based on preference

[royal totem]

i have questions that somebody might know

[mighty cipher]

Ask away

[zealous wing]

42

[royal totem]

anybody know if needler toxin still triggers Vulture's mark?

[nocturne dust]

This is psyker chat

[royal totem]

chat scum has too many people. it's overwhelming

so i'm asking here

[mighty cipher]

This is nerd chat.

[royal totem]

psykers are smart

so they know things

scum are scum

[strong gulch]

Deadvoid knows. (is one of the nerds)

[nocturne dust]

Well, sure, but I don't expect nerds to know things about drugs

[little quest]

psykers can literally communicate through the warp with brainpower

[strong gulch]

I do.

[nocturne dust]

We have very different nerd archetypes in mind here

[open iris]

People go to school for drugs

[nocturne dust]

I don't know anything about Hive Scum, I don't even own the DLC

[nocturne dust]

Actually, I went because it was forced upon me from an early age.

[open iris]

You went to drugs or school?

[nocturne dust]

Well, I assume I was vaccinated given my medical record says as much

so drugs first, then school

[open iris]

Good

[royal totem]

i found my own answer

no it doesn't seem to

...........that's kinda ass

[nocturne dust]

I do know a couple random things on Hive Scum were/are broken

[open iris]

Scum sounds underwhelming tbh

[royal totem]

there's.........a lot broken

[royal totem]

poison build is not but like a lot of it is underwhelming

i can't find a way to make their stub pistlos work for me

and their autopistols just feel so ass

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I like some ideas but I think it's spread over too many ideas without really exploring any in-depth very well

[open iris]

The best sounding skill is omni-directional sprinting

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/glasses-over-shades-off-shocked-surprised-gif-15929332

Omni…

[royal totem]

i think also

the class is super buggy atm

at least the penances are

[nocturne dust]

yes

very bugged

But that's Darktide

[gray juniper]

At least you guys didn’t take a hiatus to play arc raiders….

[open iris]

Video game is when bug

[gray juniper]

Aha.. ahahaa… ha…

[long wharf]

Scummer isn't underwhelming so much as it requires a deeper grasp of game mechanics (the ones that aren't explained at all and take experience to get)

[nocturne dust]

I don't encounter many bugs on my two-decades-old games

[long wharf]

Scummer is extremely unforgiving

[open iris]

Look harder

[gray juniper]

Awesome

[long wharf]

and its survivability nodes are at the bottom of the tree

[gray juniper]

A lot of respect to the guy/gal that did scummer on my reintro to the game. We’re only ones up on train mission

[nocturne dust]

Typical dodge tank stuff?

[zealous wing]

imagine duoing h18 and suddenly twins, and a captain, and a cs

couldnt be me and six

[gray juniper]

Replaceable hive dredge is expected to die. Much canon. Very lore

[zealous wing]

and then ofc

one netty gal

[nocturne dust]

only h18

[gray juniper]

I’m not even sure I could handle multiple bosses now

[nocturne dust]

I feel like multiple bosses is the standard now

[strong gulch]

One day I will do havocs with y'all.

[gray juniper]

That tells you how long I’ve been away

[nocturne dust]

I don't go a single auric without multiples

[bold cape]

i took a 7ish month hiatus cause havoc burnt me out
now im back and everything is different

[gray juniper]

Yea last auric I let the team kill the bosses 😈

[nocturne dust]

Last auric I disconnected every 5 seconds and did more than the rest of the team combined anyway (we all died)

[bold cape]

deadvoid experience

[nocturne dust]

The classic Darktide experience, really

[strong gulch]

servers so unstable

US E even more cursed

[nocturne dust]

I hate that the servers become unstable after every big update.

[gray juniper]

Yea doing havoc with unknowns makes it more like havoc 80 because you’ll get bumped down and redo every missions twice from people sandbagging your attempts

[long wharf]

is free-play still going?

[strong gulch]

idk

[nocturne dust]

no clue

[gray juniper]

December 4-8

[long wharf]

so yep

[strong gulch]

8th is the last day but idk when on the 8th

[nocturne dust]

8th, 0:00

[gray juniper]

Probably midnight gmt?

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I'd expect midnight

[long wharf]

maybe a lot more people bought the game due to free-play

it's already past midnight on the 8th

[gray juniper]

Probably. Not a bad thing

[long wharf]

19 hours past, in EST

[gray juniper]

Now i finally get to be a old head

[nocturne dust]

Ya'll living in the future, smh my head

[gray juniper]

Lmao

[nocturne dust]

8th still has half a dozen hours to go

[bold cape]

so hows the psyker experience these days
important question is did they buff scriers again

[long wharf]

it needs it

there are people that still choose other abilities

SG needs to also do a force push 360 degrees around the player

say, make it also apply soulblaze

[bold cape]

good ideas yes

[long wharf]

maybe even drop some kind of barrier at the same time

[bold cape]

incorporate all scriers talents into base
think thatd finally make it usable

[nocturne dust]

Honestly, Venting Shriek is holding on by a thread at this point

[long wharf]

a bubble shape would work

[nocturne dust]

I've been running scrier's staves quite often

[long wharf]

can you kill fast enough with a staff to make it worthwhile?

[bold cape]

finally took the plunge and redid my entire modlist
fgs no longer tanks my fps and my eardrums
rejoice

[long wharf]

I could see maybe void working to a degree

[nocturne dust]

Very much so, outside of Trauma

[bold cape]

trauma still at the top?

[long wharf]

for high havoc? trauma or purge

below that, anything works

[nocturne dust]

EK and Inferno don't prefer Scrier's, but they do fine with it. Really hard to feel a meaningful difference between the abilities

[long wharf]

psyker is in a very strong place right now

[nocturne dust]

Eeeehhhh

[long wharf]

you want shriek for soulblaze overstacks

with purge

[nocturne dust]

They did make Auric harder with all the weird boss spawning

[long wharf]

otherwise you aren't blazemaxing

[nocturne dust]

You can't just take anything without iotas of skill, and at that point you are a god

[bold cape]

harder auric sounds nice

[long wharf]

assuming a competent player, psyker can be any build and work just fine through mid-havocs

psyker is very strong right now

[nocturne dust]

I would say mid havocs are easier than aurics

[long wharf]

depends on modifiers

[nocturne dust]

but that's just my opinion 🤷‍♂️

[long wharf]

not with regen enemies and caustic armor enemies

[nocturne dust]

I haven't kept up with Havoc's modifiers tbh, I'm not a fan of it in general so I don't touch it much

[bold cape]

oh right how is havoc now
has it changed a lot since release? i think i stopped before there were any significant changes to it

[nocturne dust]

It's changed quite a bit, but still has some grating issues like no public matchmaking

[bold cape]

yeahh id never use the party finder tbh

[nocturne dust]

and the decay which isn't as bad but still happens if you aren't playing

[bold cape]

also yeha i agree. it gives same vibes as vt2 weaves, do it once and get all the shit from it and never again kinda deal, least for me

if i had an entire group of friends who wanted to do it, sure maybe

[nocturne dust]

I didn't even get all the stuff from it

Hosted too much

[bold cape]

real

i didnt bother with those ones

i think after the game i got true surv with yall i stopped

is ds4 still the melee meta or have they finally smited it yet

[nocturne dust]

They tapped it a little. It's still king, just don't use the special.

[bold cape]

damn
well they touched it at least i honestly didnt think they would

[long wharf]

for mobility, ds4 is still very good

[nocturne dust]

Special is now a parry like Dclaw, but unlike Dclaw it doesn't parry fast enough to make you invulnerable to most melee damage, so it's an awful timing thing

[long wharf]

but the force greatsword is where the real melee damage is at now

[nocturne dust]

FGS is if you want a melee build

[bold cape]

fgs my beloved

[nocturne dust]

because, as it turns out, and nobody could've predicted, a weapon with unlimited cleave is really good at damage

[long wharf]

that's not even the best part

[bold cape]

very unexpected

[nocturne dust]

Kinda is, I'm not sure what would be better

[long wharf]

Maelific Momentum really juices it up

and it's great for stabbing heavies

[nocturne dust]

So you're saying it is the best part?

[long wharf]

it's a great part

[bold cape]

oh right they completely changed the tree right
psykinetics aura is actually always takable now

[nocturne dust]

DS4 still beats it in that regard

[long wharf]

ds4 still has stupid fast heavy stabs, yes

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, they also wacked psykinetics way down

Psykinetics is still something to take most days, tho

[long wharf]

but it lost a lot of dps potential when it lost its special stagger-everything-on-demand stab

[bold cape]

id expect it to be

cdr is peak

[nocturne dust]

I disagree

The special was nice, especially for the other mks, but ds4 never cared

[long wharf]

I disagree strongly

special wasn't "just nice"

[nocturne dust]

I'm pretty sure the special was a dps loss for the ds4

[long wharf]

it was one of the things that made ds4 OP

[nocturne dust]

albeit minor loss

[nocturne dust]

Eh, the main use would be defensive, and I never needed that so 🤷‍♂️

[long wharf]

you were missing out on super quick double-tap heayv kills, then

[nocturne dust]

so.... like ds4's normal heavies

or am I missing some crazy animation cancelling nonsense?

[long wharf]

it wasn't crazy

it was super easy and obvious

[bold cape]

i think it was very strong
but i dont think i ever really utilized the special
tho i never really used the ds4 in the first place

[long wharf]

special animation was super short

[nocturne dust]

Right, like stabbing the enemy in the head twice with ds4's heavies

[strong gulch]

Some people did H S loop on DS4 for some reason.

That's what was needed on DS2. Doing that on DS4 was a DPS loss. Huge loss? No. Still a loss tho.

[nocturne dust]

and slower than just another stab, since all it did was rest the ds4's loop

Yeah, what Potato said

[strong gulch]

I miss the special for defensive or quick stagger reasons tho.

[cold ivy]

on the ds4 heavy -> special used to let you juggle multiple crushers without knowing how to dodge, but if you know how to dodge you could just kill them without needing special

[bold cape]

right

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, so nothing changed for me because I never used the special becuz unga bunga more dps gud

[cold ivy]

i guess the other good part is stacking uncanny faster

cuz even if it was less dps it was more hits per second, so if you were doing soulblaze into massed carapace i can see heavy special being useful...

[nocturne dust]

True, but uncanny isn't very hard to stack.

[cold ivy]

light spam would probably be fastest but then you kill that one crusher slower, so heavy -> special is probably a good compromise cuz it's safer, you don't lose too much dps and uncanny does stack a little faster

[strong gulch]

Meanwhile I'm trying to stab gunners and do a parry in front of them instead of a stagger.

I learned one thing a long time ago. Now the game wants me to learn something else. 😭

[cold ivy]

i don't think stacking uncanny 1s faster changes that much tho

[long wharf]

i thought the special poke was as much damage as a heavy

[cold ivy]

it very much is not

[bold cape]

def not

[cold ivy]

it's like 1/10th the damage of a heavy

[long wharf]

welp, guess I was gimping myself, then

[rare arrow]

what's the go-to scoreboard these days?

[nocturne dust]

I've been playing Ogryn cuz it's so laggy and when I run at gunners I just slap them repeatedly as they're standing still and I'm watching my triple gunner resistance toughness tick down while I wait for the server to respond. Peak Darktide.

[cold ivy]

you honestly weren't losing that much dps by doing it

[strong gulch]

Dear game. Please respond.

[bold cape]

ive always used powerdi

[nocturne dust]

That would be funny with the 1-shot mutie kit

[cold ivy]

i wanna say 10%? but it definitely is a lot safer vs stuff the special can stagger

[rare arrow]

I used just 'scoreboard' forever ago, then there was one that i forget the name of. Is Powerdi working since patch?

[strong gulch]

Scoreboard, ovenproof, and ovenproof fix

[bold cape]

working for me, tho its bugged as to where i cant see the very specific stats for teammates, but idrc about those cause i use it for self improvement purposes

[long wharf]

Scoreboard isn't fixed yet

[strong gulch]

can do powerDI put can hurt performance

[bold cape]

theres a fix on the modding server iirc

[long wharf]

yeah, I'm using it

[rare arrow]

This is the way then. Also I feel like you may answer this question everytime I return.

[bold cape]

waiting until crosshairhud fix goes on nexus

[long wharf]

but it'd be nice for the official fix

[strong gulch]

lmao maybe

I think the ovenproof fix mod got updated. Should have syllo's fix in there iirc.

[nocturne dust]

You also need the scoreboard fix in the posts of the overproof fix (unless scoreboard was updated while I wasn't checking)

[rare arrow]

I gotta remember how to even install mods.

[bold cape]

how is arby now btw? wasnt there for launch but i am aware they were very op/buggy/broken whatever, tho i imagine a lots been changed since?

[nocturne dust]

Arby is Arby

[strong gulch]

Ovenproof's scoreboard plugin

[bold cape]

i just use vortex now, i always did it manually but my modlist was a frankenstein of new and old mods and it was frustrating fixing and updating them constantly
vortex sucks and i use it for nothing else but for dt it works fine

[strong gulch]

Wasn't it updated today?

Idk. I just have syllo's patch from the other day.

[rare arrow]

Vortex has always been miserable for me so I try not to use it

[bold cape]

same but for dt it works fine for me

for literally any other game i dont touch it

like manual is very easy just mod framework/loader into game folder and drag n drop into mods and put them into the .txt
but looking for updates and all of that i could not be assed, so many things were broken all the time

[nocturne dust]

I haven't checked for a couple days

[nocturne dust]

Vortex is very hit or miss

I don't know how it is with Darktide, I do things manually

[quartz barn]

temp fix scoreboard is still the way go to atm

[rare arrow]

This is what I'm going to try

[bold cape]

my modlist is very long so i use vortex
might just be lazy

[nocturne dust]

My modlist is also very long

[bold cape]

also what does this mean u.u
still the same?

you are a champion of will then

[nocturne dust]

Not as broken, but still pretty good

[rare arrow]

So all I need is DML, DMF, Scoreboard, OP, and OP fix?

[strong gulch]

Probably still need to check comments anyways.

[fiery stratus]

FGS with scum stim absolutely fucks

[quartz barn]

dont think you need base ovenproof, just the community patch

[nocturne dust]

I'm glad I'm slow to get on after an update because I know the comments will already have everything figured out 😎

[nocturne dust]

iirc, the patch has the base as a requirement

The patch just overrides (some) of the files

[strong gulch]

Should be. If not, also add syllo's fixes after the others. #psyker-class message

[bold cape]

oh right the difficulty select is weird now
what is auric now? is it just auric damnation?

[rare arrow]

I don't see an Ovenproof fix

[timber merlin]

Any recommendations for a psyker havoc 40 melee build with the blaze force greatsword

[nocturne dust]

Auric is Auric Dam, yes

[fiery stratus]

auric is its own difficult and its a step above damnation now

[nocturne dust]

"Own Difficulty"

[bold cape]

sick

[fiery stratus]

in enemy density, health values might be the same

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, sure obese fish

🙄

[strong gulch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/514

[fiery stratus]

i think the values actually are different

[fierce crest]

i hit the number

[strong gulch]

not fix
my bad

[nocturne dust]

Nope

[bold cape]

obesefish my favorite indie 2 man team

[nocturne dust]

Just spawn rates

[fiery stratus]

f

oh well

[rare arrow]

not sure how I missed them

it*

[strong gulch]

I had trouble finding it at first. So not just you.

[nocturne dust]

Nexus' new UI is bad

[rare arrow]

did Syllo's come with instructions?

[nocturne dust]

and the UI developer should feel bad

[quartz barn]

new?

[fiery stratus]

lol they're hiring a bunch of people, makes sense now

[quartz barn]

when did it get changed

[nocturne dust]

"new"

[nocturne dust]

A while ago

[bold cape]

every ui change in the last 10 years sucks

[nocturne dust]

Yes

return to rock

🪨

[bold cape]

return to terminal inputs

[quartz barn]

hmm idk about that one

[void perch]

ok i swear im not stupid

but even with psyker dodges and spamming

[quartz barn]

old websites are uhh

special

[void perch]

im getting COOKED

[fiery stratus]

anyone else had really good audio on this door in power matrix before

[void perch]

by crusher and mauler overheads

[fiery stratus]

dont spam dodges

wait for them to swing

[nocturne dust]

do not spam

You have limited dodges

Use them wisely

[void perch]

no shit

i know how it works

[nocturne dust]

Then why are you spamming

[void perch]

but my issue is im getting hit by crushers/maulers

[nocturne dust]

👁️

[void perch]

mid dodge

from out of range

[nocturne dust]

Then you're lagging very heavily and nothing can save you, rest in peace

[void perch]

i thought that might be the case

but it happens even when i host

[nocturne dust]

Although sometimes crusher overheads have a larger AoE than you might expect

[void perch]

sometimes?

[nocturne dust]

Their hit detection, like most things in the game, is a little buggy

[void perch]

right

[fiery stratus]

you're not hosting

[quartz barn]

not larger, just further from their model than it seems

[nocturne dust]

yeh that

[fiery stratus]

its not your local connection, the dedicated server closest to you can still be shit

[nocturne dust]

I miss local hosts

[quartz barn]

cmon i have a good pic for it but i cant post pics zzzzzzzz

[nocturne dust]

VT2, take me back 😭

[bold cape]

saw a mr e video talking about hurtboxes
dunno the truth in it or w/e but might be that
darktide has always been buggy shit though

[fiery stratus]

best to go get the mod to show ping at the top

[strong gulch]

Just replace the files that match the names.
ovenproof_scoreboard_plugin > scripts

[quartz barn]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/639

[fiery stratus]

see if the problem persists with that on

[void perch]

im ps5

[quartz barn]

i guess see this

[fiery stratus]

f

you'

youre beat

[nocturne dust]

I wouldn't listen to most Darktide youtubers, tbh

[void perch]

i know my ping is high

but

[fiery stratus]

crushers and maulers slide forward slightly when they do overheads

[void perch]

i know i dont usually dodge backwards

[quartz barn]

this is just bursters + barrels

[void perch]

on overheads

[quartz barn]

hitbox is either broken or intended to be bigger than before

[void perch]

also yeah bursters are for sure cooked

[bold cape]

gotcha

[fiery stratus]

probably your ping then if i had to guess

bursters are a mess rn

[void perch]

i guess

[royal totem]

can't confirm but i've gotten hit by more bursters this patch than previou s

[void perch]

but it feels like its more a problem lately

might be washed but idk

[nocturne dust]

Servers have been unstable

[void perch]

rlly?

its not just my net?

[nocturne dust]

Pretty common after major updates

I've been disconnecting every 5 seconds most matches

[void perch]

well yeahy we're also just on a f2p

[nocturne dust]

It's not p2p if that's what you mean

[void perch]

no

i know dt isnt p2p

f2p = free top play

[quartz barn]

fix your mods maybe

[bold cape]

i honestly wouldnt be surprised if they were seriously bugged
bursters have always been a bit weird and darktide in general is
unstable
and a sudden bug like that is mildly unsurprising

[void perch]

its been free since the 4th

[rare arrow]

I'm sorry I'm sure these questions sound dumb. so I just replace my current .lua files with those?

[nocturne dust]

Not the first time it's happened and it's not mods

[void perch]

i get dced minimum 2 times a game

[nocturne dust]

I know, I've done vanilla install testing

[void perch]

lol

[nocturne dust]

Darktide's net code just sucks

[long wharf]

the Scummer update changed something with respect to explosion radii and players

[void perch]

yep

[quartz barn]

just paste them in the mods folder

[void perch]

sub 50 ping on other games

[strong gulch]

Servers are usually sad after major updated AND the game was free (not to keep) for a few days.

Usually there's around 5k players that surged to 30k. The servers have been big sad.

[quartz barn]

or unzip

[void perch]

it feels like dt is 100-200 average

[long wharf]

explosions are hitting players that are just outside their marked ranges

[fiery stratus]

i have a really cool video showing how functional the bursters are, its compressing

[nocturne dust]

I lag too much to push bursters anyway

[void perch]

ive had bursters explode with no jump/push/bullets lately

[bold cape]

saw a clip of one sniping somebody from like 10+m away

[long wharf]

what language you are translating from?

[void perch]

luckily i am psyker mage i can dodge out

main

wtf

psyker mage 🔥 🔥

[strong gulch]

Ye. If you have any issues after you've done or updated all of the other mods.

Syllo's are last step if you are getting errors.

[fiery stratus]

english to english

[rare arrow]

I think I did it, the game booted up going to run one now and we will see. Thank you for the help

[bold cape]

epic

dt actually functioning properly should be celebrated

[fiery stratus]

ignoring multiple pushes

[rare arrow]

Wasn't there a way to open scoreboard without running a mission?

[fiery stratus]

f5 but it might crash your game

[nocturne dust]

Most people would want that to be the bare minimum 😭

[fiery stratus]

if you have too many scoreboards saved up itll literally just crash your game, mine does

[rare arrow]

I have none, just installed the mods

[nocturne dust]

You should fix that

[fiery stratus]

im too lazy

[bold cape]

they're expecting too much from obesefish

[fiery stratus]

i dont look at scoreboard history basically ever

[bold cape]

f5 with scoreboard will make my game shit the bed for sure

[fiery stratus]

tab by default to see scoreboard in game

f5 for previous

[strong gulch]

this one

[rare arrow]

I'm a dunce

didn't set the mod load order

[bold cape]

happens to the best of us

[rare arrow]

DML and DMF don't need to be included right?

[nocturne dust]

Uh, you may want to read the instructions for how to properly install those

It's super simple... if you read the instructions. It's super hard if you try to guess, and none of us have it memorized, lol.

[rare arrow]

DML to DT folder, DMF to mods folder right

[royal totem]

working as intended. intended to artificially lower the win rate that is

[strong gulch]

iirc yes

[fiery stratus]

indeed

make sure you run the modloader too

[rare arrow]

Enchanter voltron is bad

[fiery stratus]

Thankfully i play stax

[rare arrow]

somehow it got worse

[fiery stratus]

[rare arrow]

Zhur was one of my first EDH decks

zhur and Sharuum, love me some esper

[fiery stratus]

He's my favorite. Most of my decks are balanced and vary from like 6-8 intentionally. My zur is made as a response to sweats who want to win casual games too quickly

Uhhh my deck wins turn 4, oh you mean turn 40, right?

[zealous wing]

what in the antigravity bullshit

why are things floating up

[rare arrow]

I quit for a long time, don't have much together now would love to start again lol.

[fiery stratus]

Super impact is causing the ragdolls

[zinc phoenix]

migrating hosts

ten years later

[fiery stratus]

Honestly ive barely played over the last couple years. Lost my playgroup between people moving and work ect. I have an LFG but it really is just all sweats, Zur gets used literally everytime im there lol.

[quaint lark]

https://tenor.com/view/your-a-wizard-harry-gif-3829442

Ass moment lol

[void perch]

some people will deadass tell you this is a skill issue

ingame

💔

[zealous wing]

shouldve pushed more

surely

but ye they dont like being pushed if youre not the target

[void perch]

checks out

game is NOT that good

[trail orbit]

Is this still broken?

[trail orbit]

And if not does it require 100% peril or less?

[zealous wing]

i dont know if it was ever broken, just not good on anything but rending trauma

[fiery stratus]

It still should've registered, it was extremely close as it came around the corner

Game always functional

[zealous wing]

shouldve, but bursters be picky rn

[void perch]

should i buy a 100ft ethernet cord

just for dt

so i can actually havoc 40 and not want to delete the game

(ill still want to delete the game)

[fiery stratus]

lol yes the discussion is about them being buggy

nah you should just play auric with randoms

thats plenty challenging

[zealous wing]

i said picky, not buggy, ik they're buggy

[void perch]

true

[zealous wing]

if im the target they push more consistently

[void perch]

auric mael with randoms is pretty much just h40

[zealous wing]

if im not, i notice more issues

[fiery stratus]

not something thats been this much of an issue until they started doing the shit where they don't blow up when close

[rare arrow]

lol I lost my group but then got another one many years later. I need to just go online and buy a couple XD

[fiery stratus]

LGS

My brain is fried

[rare arrow]

I knew what you meant lol

[zealous wing]

k i know this is petty but i dont care... warframe.

[fiery stratus]

[void perch]

whats wrong with warframe

😄

[open iris]

Those are both good games

[void perch]

warframe > darktide...

[fiery stratus]

...

no

[void perch]

if you know ddda ily

[fiery stratus]

literally just on the basis of gameplay no

almost everything community and content related yes

but gameplay absolutely no

[bold cape]

the fashion is pretty cool, community good market good devs good
but the gmaeplay is literally just m1

[void perch]

i feel like if you genuinely think wf gameplay is just m1 you probably didnt get very far

[fiery stratus]

warframe has better systems, but ye the gameplay is literally just bouncing off the walls even moreso than something like farttide

[void perch]

not that wf gameplay is genuinely better than dt but

[strong gulch]

I played part of the warframe tutorial around the time that the game launched.

am pro

[void perch]

i feel like reducing wf gameplay to that is just not a great point

(mostly because its wrong)

[fiery stratus]

warframe is even more screenspam shit than darktide

and thats saying something

[void perch]

yes it is

[bold cape]

am mr20 with 400 hours completed steel path
it is kinda just clearing rooms of paper enemies, the only difference is what it looks and sounds like as you do it

after a while it gets pretty grating, at least for me

neat story and mq tho

[void perch]

i mean if you play the same sp content as you do base star chart its pretty much the same gameplay

only difference is you just get to do more shit

[fiery stratus]

the difference is the physics and mechanics and feel of combat overall lol

[void perch]

its alot more than m1ing in stuff like void casc, eidos, eta etc

i didnt mean same gameplay between both games

i meant

[open iris]

The only part about warframe I don't like is having to spam bullet jumps

[void perch]

base starchart gameplay

is the same as

base sp

[void perch]

you dont HAVE to but its a major part of the parkour system yeah

er

movement

system

.

[fiery stratus]

id probably try warframe if tons of shit wasnt time gated

[bold cape]

yeha that shit sucks too

[open iris]

Yeah hurts my pinky

I cry

[bold cape]

mobile gamey in that regard

[void perch]

the time gating will never be gone its pretty much wf special atp

[plucky flax]

Nah solo carry maelstrom is easy h40 is hard

[void perch]

theres ways to work around it though for sure

[fiery stratus]

[plucky flax]

Mfw clutching but multiple bosses come out to cuck ya

[zealous wing]

agent i need more data

[void perch]

try solo carrying auric mael with 20 mbps wifi and 200 minimum ping

[fiery stratus]

wat

bosses are ezpz

[void perch]

and your teammates are dead 100% of the time

[zealous wing]

when you're inferno, do you notice rinda always coming after you first

[fiery stratus]

its everything else you have to worry about

[void perch]

rebind

[plucky flax]

Solo clutching trying to ress with a twins on yo ass is hard

[void perch]

or play controller 🔥 🔥

[bold cape]

controller..

[fiery stratus]

just uhh do it

[void perch]

i feel like playing wf on pc is like playing a souls game on pc

er

[fiery stratus]

break shields go for revive

ez

[void perch]

kbm/mnc

mnk

[open iris]

I'll never go back to controller for shooters lol

[bold cape]

its a shooter

[plucky flax]

Sure just see karien

Tru let me do that

[bold cape]

definitely a far cry from an action game like dks lmao

[fiery stratus]

playing darktide on mouse and keyboard is such an improvement over controller its not even funny

[open iris]

Some other finger will hurt smh

[zealous wing]

200 ping is nothing tbh. annoying but doable

[void perch]

yeah but both are dogshit (imo)

[zealous wing]

ive felt 500 ping

[open iris]

It's like when I play osu, fucks up my wrist

[zealous wing]

idk how karien does 300+ regularly and can keep going

gives me a headache

[void perch]

havent tried

whois kariern

[bold cape]

thats crazy asf

[strong gulch]

200 consistent ping > 60 ping with spikes

[bold cape]

dt on controller would actually make me cry

[fiery stratus]

none of the tide games are really built for controller

[void perch]

try 200 consistent + spikes

lol

[bold cape]

coming from someone who grew up using them

[void perch]

minimum 200

[fiery stratus]

the directional dodging makes it sooo much harder on controller

[void perch]

yes

[strong gulch]

everyday

[plucky flax]

Obviously only pros like karien clear h40 weekly on controller and 300 ping

[void perch]

dt would be much better if you had dodge and jump seperated

[zealous wing]

karien plays on pc with a controller, from ... one of the asia regions? to eu

[void perch]

or just had no jump in general tbh

[plucky flax]

Yeah shes the best darktide player

[zealous wing]

rebind.... oh wait youre on controller

[bold cape]

she is just a god

[fiery stratus]

300+ ping, but karien also doesn't play higher difficulties usually because connection, no?

[bold cape]

cannot compare us to her

[zealous wing]

i have jump as left alt, dodge on spacebar

[void perch]

wait can you actually do this:?

on kbm???

[zealous wing]

ye

[plucky flax]

Modless pc gamer with controller playing on eu from asia

[void perch]

fucking fs

[plucky flax]

[fiery stratus]

bro farttide also only has partial controller support

[zealous wing]

karien doesnt understand how cool she is

[void perch]

better than me, i play ps5 na to eu

[royal totem]

Karien is the best

[void perch]

😄

[royal totem]

i need KArien to carry me

[fiery stratus]

if you use both mouse and key, with controller, you have to use mouse and key for your skill tree and shit

like wtf

[zealous wing]

na east or na west

[void perch]

east

[zealous wing]

na east from eu is fine

[void perch]

its not

[royal totem]

i go to EU from NA W

[plucky flax]

Karien likes to flame me because I deserve it

[royal totem]

errr

[void perch]

300-500 ping is not fine

[fiery stratus]

playing eu servers definitely gonna get you overheaded

[royal totem]

NA W to EU i mean

[fiery stratus]

bruh

[void perch]

i play na usually when solo but my duo is british

[strong gulch]

NA East to EU is better than NA East to Na East.

[fiery stratus]

tf is your internet, im na east but i still get like 120 ping on eu

[void perch]

🔥

[royal totem]

NA normally dead when i play so i have to play EU

[zealous wing]

we've also found eu far more stable than na east

[void perch]

i get 20mbps on my ps5

max

[bold cape]

yeha i get 110 from nae to euw

[fiery stratus]

i just send it even if i dont get teammates

people join eventually

[bold cape]

download speed nothing to do with ping u.u

[void perch]

not true

[royal totem]

nah

[void perch]

its also 20 down 5 up

[royal totem]

havoc wait too long

[void perch]

not symmetrical

[royal totem]

i hait waiting 30 minutes only to play 5 minutes and lose

[void perch]

real and true

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-i-get-it-gif-27501363

PEOPLE WHEN THEY REALIZE AURIC IS GOOD ENOUGH

[void perch]

why havoc solo isnt allowed...

[zealous wing]

tis why i wont ever bother with PF

[void perch]

wtf fs...

[bold cape]

my plan limits my dl but i still get 110 ping from nae to euw

[royal totem]

sorry i only play PF

[void perch]

i havent really tested

[royal totem]

playing with people i know

i refuse

[fiery stratus]

i get like 70 ping on my "local" server

[void perch]

i only know what ping feels like because for a while i gamed on 500kbps symmetrical

[fiery stratus]

only the finest amazon work servers

[royal totem]

playing with people i know in havoc is less fun for me than PF

[void perch]

wtf is pf

[zealous wing]

party finder

[royal totem]

party finder

[void perch]

lol

[bold cape]

if my bf can play havoc 40 at 400 ping from sydney to nae you can too

[royal totem]

so i only play havoc in party finder

[void perch]

ive matchmaked from here 2 times

all other times was pf

[fiery stratus]

xd, the difference is eventually you get used to the delay

[royal totem]

except when Chaos or Karien carry me

only time i play with people from here

[void perch]

you cant

when there's spikes

and constant dcs

[fiery stratus]

[void perch]

right before i dc i get like a huge spike and either dc or it all loads in at once

[fiery stratus]

first time?

[zealous wing]

na east be like

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

i played a game where i was rubberbanding everywhere while in combat, but my ping was 65

[bold cape]

the high ping foresight is true

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/bike-fall-memes-baton-roue-bike-stick-gif-8999945942594219773

[royal totem]

anyways, i'm perma retired from havocing with people from here except if i'm getting carried lul

my brain can't handle it

[plucky flax]

From here as in who?

[void perch]

carriers

[plucky flax]

Just ask karien for ez h40.

[void perch]

🔥

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/have-a-beautiful-day-fart-smoke-gif-11988036401361324488

darktide when it comes to servers

[void perch]

i will do havoc

but

only for penance

at havoc 1

and purposefulyl demote always

[zealous wing]

lmfao

[void perch]

to 1

🔥

[fiery stratus]

yeah but you cant get true survivor until 35 at least

[void perch]

i have true survivor a

lready

i have no reason to not just run low diffs

[royal totem]

i only play with that Unsanctioned person from here or Karien in havoc. rest is all party finder

[fiery stratus]

i love how little meaning titles have in this game

[bold cape]

fun

[void perch]

Reject has the most meaning

it's either a cracked god tier player

[fiery stratus]

the ability to cheese most of them for months after they came out is pretty sick

[void perch]

or

dogshit

[zealous wing]

i actually cant even apply reject not worthy

[royal totem]

i have no title

[zealous wing]

game freaks out if i try

[bold cape]

i have true surv and i flip between the two depending on the day tbh

[void perch]

you can still cheese ASS and most other titles

[royal totem]

what's the reject title even from?

[fiery stratus]

i had a "true survivor" in my auric game when i was like level 26 hive scum, bro died legit 5 times

i had to clutch the game 4 times

[zealous wing]

its the first title you get

[royal totem]

ah

[void perch]

tbf most people who have higher titles dont care that much

except the top like

.1%

[fiery stratus]

theyre dogshit

people cheese true survivor because it said no "downs" so if you got 1shot it didnt count as a down

[void perch]

i usually dont sweat my ass off unless im in havoc

[bold cape]

most ppl with ass ive seen are shit and still dc on down

[fiery stratus]

^

[bold cape]

really?

[void perch]

everyone with ass is dogshit

[fiery stratus]

yes

it was like that for mooooonthhs

[bold cape]

wtf

[fiery stratus]

yeppppp

[royal totem]

true survivor is such a funny thing. Every true survivor i see is either god tier carry carry i have to do nothing. or they'll sandbag super duper hard

[void perch]

dogshit is like the flex title that people who cant get havoc forged or true survivor use

[zealous wing]

i just want pox breaker

[void perch]

except you just keep corruption low and heal past wounds and you can just cheese it

dc on leave

[fiery stratus]

the best way to show you can play is by being last alive and forcing shitters to watch a real player

[void perch]

which is what most peopole do

[fiery stratus]

[void perch]

i cant play

im dogshit

[bold cape]

im neither sorry

[void perch]

i let the dedicated adepts carry me

in heresy

[fiery stratus]

that because you play controller

[void perch]

true

[zealous wing]

[royal totem]

i'm still using no title

[fiery stratus]

honestly this game is NOT designed for a controller

[bold cape]

hardcapped performance

[void perch]

being genuine though i think im not too terrible for being a controller ps5 and 500 ping player

[zealous wing]

karien plays on controller

[open iris]

You have auto aim with controller no?

[royal totem]

Karien hard carries me

[fiery stratus]

controller players can be good, but you need the paddles on the back, you need the ability to independently move your camera during melee just like on mouse and key

[strong gulch]

The way the game made be put on a title to clear an error.

[void perch]

yeah we have auto aim

[open iris]

Easy game

[void perch]

you already can

[royal totem]

huh?

[zealous wing]

autoaim sucks balls tho im told

[void perch]

use your camera during melee

[fiery stratus]

yes you need those paddles though

[void perch]

wdym

[fiery stratus]

a lot of people dont

[void perch]

yeah sorta

[zealous wing]

makes you shoot things you arent actually trying to aim for

sounds annoying

[void perch]

the only use it has is for like 12m single enemies

[bold cape]

sometimes i run no title if im not confident cause i feel like shit when i have true surv on and go down to something really stupid

[void perch]

and every other time

it's dogshit

you cant even turn it off i think

[fiery stratus]

a lot of people have normal controllers and thats why're they're shit at dodging, gotta use the dodge finger as the camera finger

[void perch]

lol

[royal totem]

sometimes i'm penance greeding and i'll die 50 times in one round

[zealous wing]

me when i was having a really bad day and had my auric badge on. removed it after

[void perch]

yeppp

[zealous wing]

i demoted myself

[void perch]

you cant swap to nade or anything either

while dodging

[bold cape]

real honestly lmao

[void perch]

cant stim while dodging

[fiery stratus]

aids

[strong gulch]

Fat shark changed something in cosmetics or loadouts a couple patched ago that put yellow exclamation marks on titles and emotes of old loadouts.

edit: So I had to apply a title to clear it.

[void perch]

you also get jump chain dodges

if you dodge too quick

instead of actual dodges

[royal totem]

i don't use any title so nobody expects anything of me

[void perch]

lol

[fiery stratus]

every action nearly can be done while dodge sliding on mouse and key

[royal totem]

and nobody should expect anything of me

cuz as always, i'm bottom 10% player

[zealous wing]

i just use the exploration titles generally

[royal totem]

tragic

[zealous wing]

they mean nothing, just fun things to have

[strong gulch]

ye

[fiery stratus]

i normally just use titles that fit the cosmetics im wearing

[zealous wing]

ye

[void perch]

when do we get purple texture misssing square outfits

would be fire

like hd2

🔥

[fiery stratus]

right now on twithc

twitch*

[bold cape]

i feel like im ass at the game but then again i still do better than 90% of randoms i find
i think i j have really bad anxiety about underperforming in front of ppl

[void perch]

thats like most decent players

you're either anxious to do good and do good but think you do ass

or

you're so confident the games just a joke

and you also do good

but those also have the opposite truth aswell

[fiery stratus]

then you're fine, best thing you can do for clutching is try to train yourself to be calm and focus on enemy priority

[void perch]

where you're anxious as being dogshit

and*

but also overconfident and dogshit

[nocturne dust]

I'd truly rather have that.

[void perch]

overconfident and dogshit is like Tanner Lindberg

[fiery stratus]

NOOO TANNER GODMOOODE

[void perch]

id prefer an anxious dogshit player over dogshit who thinks they're good 😄

[fiery stratus]

LOOK AT HOW HE USE DUELLING SWORD SO SKILLED OMG

[void perch]

world's first havoc 40!!!

world'

s

wait i typed it correctly

the first time.

[bold cape]

yeah i try my best. im usually always last to go down but im really shit at clutching and carrying more than a couple people's weight

i can semi-confidently true solo cata in vt2 but for sure not the case here

[fiery stratus]

don't be afraid to pull back, backtracking is good, use chokepoints like doors and things. Don't rely on dodges for things like trappers and dogs, because the server is always shit and you never know

[nocturne dust]

My performance entirely hinges upon how the netcode is feeling

[void perch]

^

most people's do it seems

[void perch]

bro

today and yesterday

ive had dogs go through

my pushblocks

[fiery stratus]

yep

[void perch]

like wdym 'dont rely'

dont rely on playing the game

if you have dogs and trappers

around

😭

[fiery stratus]

i usually try to put a bullet in dogs and trappers before they even get close

[strong gulch]

not me

it's netcode + unpracticable brains

[fiery stratus]

thats what i mean

[void perch]

fair ig

[nocturne dust]

Sometimes I wish Darktide was a singleplayer game just so I could be free of the netcode

[void perch]

true

p2p when

[zealous wing]

you could play it true solo tbh

[void perch]

get 3 alts

3 clients

play solo

[fiery stratus]

time to go to the reviews and say "DUHHH WHERE SOLO MODE??!?!!?!"

NEGATIVE REVIEW\

[nocturne dust]

I could, but no rewards. I need more diamantine and plasteel!

-# hides maxed out resource count

[bold cape]

thanks! honestly i find i have good gamesense and know how to control the map like that but as soon as it actually comes down to last alive i always fuck up bc i do not perform well under pressure

[fiery stratus]

its still the same, enemy priority is more important than ever

[bold cape]

my anxiety just spikes and my heartrate goes crazy high

is pain

[zealous wing]

i get that

[fiery stratus]

vermitide is similar but theres waaay more specials to deal with

honestly practice is the best thing for it

[nocturne dust]

Solo mode not being in the game still is very emblematic of the issues plaguing Fatshark tho

[fiery stratus]

Youre not wrong, but people really do be giving negative reviews when they'd never get out of malice while solo

[bold cape]

man
if i could play solo with my 3 customized bots id be soso happy
tertium 5, or 4 doesnt matter

[fiery stratus]

Bots in solo on this game are just there to die in the first section lol

[bold cape]

oh yeah

i wish they werent completely useless

[nocturne dust]

If I could play coop with a dedicated server worth more than the grunge of Tertium that would be nice

[zealous wing]

ive never been more confused by a partyfinder slot

[bold cape]

tho they are kinda fuckin cracked in vt2

[zealous wing]

this bro has been here for like, 2hrs

[nocturne dust]

Bro trying to find a party

[fiery stratus]

Not now they aren't lol

[open iris]

Help him

[fiery stratus]

Fatshark breaks the bots on vt2 every other update, theyre clueless atm

[bold cape]

sadg
havent played the new update yet

[fiery stratus]

Honestly they've been incapable of even letting you out of a packmaster for months

[fringe harbor]

Does surge work on electro charged attack

[zealous wing]

no

primary only

however, surge surge does feel great to run

[bold cape]

freeing you from specials is noooooot their specialty ill say lmao
esp from a pack yeah

[nocturne dust]

Mods are pretty cool

[fiery stratus]

Nooo its not sanctioned reeeee

[nocturne dust]

and then sometimes they attempt to save you while standing in a pool of fire, lol

[fiery stratus]

Hope you don't want any xp for this game because youre on modded realm

[bold cape]

and then the next game they're deadeyes one tapping specials on spawn

[nocturne dust]

Honestly, bots should just be invincible

[bold cape]

okay this is really fucking funny

[zealous wing]

we were fuckin dying

[bold cape]

the way they just

kick him to death

thats gold

saved

[void perch]

how did he tank allat

holyyy

[zealous wing]

bot block god

[nocturne dust]

Bots get secret buffs

iirc

[bold cape]

"buffed player revive priority"
the buff:

[open iris]

Bots are always gods

[nocturne dust]

"buffed bot stunlock priority, now bot gets stunlocked easier"

[bold cape]

genius obesefish never fails

[zealous wing]

idk where it is but i had another similar clip

with a plogryn

cant even be mad, that shits so good

[round coyote]

What do y’all run on chaxe?

[bold cape]

i needed that lmao

[zealous wing]

i have an array of clips

[bold cape]

i would not say no to more of that

[zealous wing]

i would answer but i have genuinely no idea, we dont run chaxe

[round coyote]

Chainsword then?

[bold cape]

ooooh i have a really good one somewhere
was playing with my bf and this bon ate him and dragged him fucking light years away and spit him out on top of a dh we walked past a while ago
i was literally crying

[bold cape]

freaky arby

[deft stump]

They actually don't even wanna revive anymore tbh.

[bold cape]

i was in the psyk waiting for this to load, forgot about it, it finally started playing and i was looking around so fucking confused as to why i was hearing this u.u
gen thought i went crazy

[bold cape]

okay this sent me

[zealous wing]

it sent her too

[bold cape]

object permamence 0

[zealous wing]

[bold cape]

i love the arby's slow turn holy shit

[bold cape]

omg i hate this area sm

i always shoot barrels here before the team gets there

[zealous wing]

that same barrel has gotten me a few times

[bold cape]

ive been killed by randoms hitting it a few times fs

such unfortunate placement

melee goes through wall

death

[zealous wing]

this one, is a kinda fond memory

bro lugged that battery from medicae ONE of the map

[random spruce]

Your guy yelling "I am unstoppable!" Whilst flying off the map is funny af

[bold cape]

the voice clipoff is peak

ive seen a hilarious clip where a banter voiceline matched up perfectly of a psyk exploding

[zealous wing]

last one for now, gonna dive into some games

(read chat to get the funny part)

[bold cape]

pffft

thanks for the laughs peak clips

[buoyant pivot]

What are the go-to blessings for the Inferno staff?

[zealous wing]

build guide in the pins,
blaze away, nexus

[buoyant pivot]

ty

[plucky flax]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/659?tab=files

Not sure how accurate but I'll give it a try.

[little pier]

What is the best build to use for farming the “Mind Lance” penance - 250 elite or specialist kills with assail. Actually useable up to auric.

[zealous wing]

any gunker/meleeker build with assail

bubbleknight always a safe bet

[plucky flax]

Pick assails pick dd pick warp cleave.

[little pier]

Point me toward a build on Games Lantern so I can see it all.

[plucky flax]

Huh nearly 3 mils kills. Where is poxbreaker (3)? Xd

[zealous wing]

build guide in the pins

[lone ravine]

2 million kills in one game for poxbreaker 3

[royal totem]

Chaos likes killing scabs i see

[plucky flax]

There are more scabs than dregs.

[gray juniper]

So demon hosts kill everyone now?

[zealous wing]

the atonement ones do

they're just hexbounds

[gray juniper]

Oh so that’s the event I see

I knew there was one nearby and I definitely don’t set it off. A chaos spawn is on top of me so not much I can do, buddy next to me has to go down. Then it was on me and I didn’t expect that

[ripe obsidian]

Plagues will do that

[nocturne dust]

Plagues give people weapons, armor, and clothing?

[ripe obsidian]

After getting covered in the guts of 3m heretics, you are a Pox-haver

[ripe obsidian]

They give ya scabs