psyker-class

[strong gulch]

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[astral finch]

Is By Crack of Bone killing my damage?

[tulip kettle]

depends

[zealous wing]

if you have scriers, it can help you keep it longer to get damage stacks, but if you dont have scriers, then yeah its not helping you tons

[marble crater]

I don't agree

[astral finch]

I use Scriers, yeah. I think Im at the opposite end of the spectrum and prefer a low peril style build

[zealous wing]

low peril = killing your damage

well, most of the time. if you skip all the "based on peril" talents then it doesnt matter, you'll be doing smaller damage regardless

ideally, your peak strength would be hovering around 80-90% peril (allowing a little wiggleroom depending on blitz/weaponry to cast something)

for someone newer even 60% is good maintain practice, then slowly try to maintain higher as you feel more comfortable doing so

[marble crater]

I try to maintain 10%

[royal totem]

i try to maintain a healthy 0% 🙂 it means i'm the most sane psyker!

after all, perils of the warp is when you're completely mad and explode!

[astral finch]

I just aim for head level and just start swinging the greatsword and let it do its thing lol

[zealous wing]

to be fair its not the psyker that explodes, its the collar

[royal totem]

wait, realy?

[zealous wing]

to prevent daemons from emerging i was told

[royal totem]

i........see

[zealous wing]

valid. FGS is great. weaving assail with it for peril = warp splitting = cleave also great

[ripe obsidian]

I try to keep an updated list of acronyms at the top

If I missed any, do tell me

I also try not to use acronyms unless I used the full name earlier in the sentence/paragraph

[astral finch]

No no, its fine, its just at first glance it can be alittle daunting, but once you kinda poke and prod around it all makes sense

[regal pumice]

Why do some people never use the flame staffs channel attack

[zealous wing]

because they dont know primary is only stagger not damage

[strong gulch]

There is also a list in the pins themselves for acronyms, but I can't update it anymore.

[strong gulch]

Some do swap cancel.

Most prob are not doing that.

[full wing]

Hi folks

For DH havoc crashes — do you feel its just soulblaze spread? PC and wildfire? Or soulblaze dots in general?

Most ppl I play with have rituals, maybe this is an excuse to finally not play purg 🙃

[summer prairie]

I had no crashes since removing wildfire

the crash log specifically refers to wildfire

[zealous wing]

wildfire

literally th eonly reason to not use it

😭

[full wing]

Thank youu 🙏 goodbye wildfire

[mighty cipher]

God damnit

Turns out this one floor in dark communion doesn’t stop gunfire and I got DELETED by like 12 ranges elites

[astral finch]

If I cant invest the 3 points to kinda max out assail, should I just take Smite/Brain Rupture?

[mighty cipher]

Assail honestly doesn’t need maxed out

[plucky flax]

Why not run base assails?

[deft stump]

Base works, fast recharge is nice, more cleave is funny but usually not needed if warp splitting.

[mighty cipher]

If it’s not your entire gameplan you can leave it completely Unupgrade d and still do work

[astral finch]

Idk, im not hip, enlighten me

Im all about learning

[deft stump]

I think I summarised it.

[plucky flax]

If you're strapped for points then run base. Assails upgrade only worthwhile is the recharge one.

[astral finch]

Now, I dont use Warp Splitting, but I DO run Wrath and Shred on FGS

[strong gulch]

Warp slpitting helps more than just your melee.

[astral finch]

How so?

[plucky flax]

Run warp splitting and change wrath to unstable on your sword

[strong gulch]

It boosts all cleave with peril.

So that means FGS and assail both benefit.

[mighty cipher]

It’s ALL cleave

[strong gulch]

can drop wrath and get another blessing

or keep if that's your thing

but you can get unstable power

which will increase cleave, damage, and stagger

power / strength increases those

[summer prairie]

perfect radius for this

[ripe obsidian]

Do you happen to know what they borked? Or, if you have the updated code here.

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/622281b0c035959d2a1e3e9108712515672d26f9/scripts/settings/buff/weapon_buff_templates.lua#L183

This is where wildfire should interact with DHs. But it might be all DoTs?

[summer prairie]

I don't know, maybe this can be deciphered

[ripe obsidian]

I can try

[summer prairie]

It might be related more generally to them switching to using tables for many things

[celest valve]

99% means you are as close to the emperor as you can be, however

[ripe obsidian]

So far that's my guess as well. Something about DHs not being a valid target, then passing that nil value

But I can't confirm until I see the new version of the code

[summer prairie]

There's actually a mod that fixes it for yourself (you still shouldn't run wildfire because it will crash everyone else)

[astral finch]

Wound curios are bad outside of a Zealot build, right?

[summer prairie]

but if that mod works, you can just look at the code to find out why

[marble crater]

Correct

[astral finch]

I figured as much, I remember a conversation you guys were all having about it a day or two ago.

[fallow abyss]

Is great power sword viable in higher difficulty?
I am currently lvl 20, and I really love that weapon it can clear horde, kill elites, has a very cool animation, block + first click thrust is insane.
I am just interested how good it is to play it in higher difficulty

[ripe obsidian]

Based on the comment, I am correct

-- Prevent crash in warp_fire stop_func when a target blackboard is missing (e.g. special enemies without perception).

[zealous wing]

auric psykanium (i love this clip too much)

that slash will still kill trash with ease

[summer prairie]

Also aussiemon has the new code already

[zealous wing]

GWS updated

lets go, no more spamming my blinders

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, it didn't look new when I checked. I will look again

This appears to be the only new line.

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/622281b0c035959d2a1e3e9108712515672d26f9/scripts/settings/buff/weapon_buff_templates.lua#L167

Oops

local position = Unit.world_position(victim_unit, 1)

So maybe DHs in their dormant state do something weird with positioning?

[untold creek]

when a warp-fire stack carrier dies and the game tries to spread stacks, it assumes every nearby “DH” enemy has a blackboard/perception component. If that blackboard is missing (e.g., ritual witch or just sleeping dh in no-perception, perception_component = blackboard.perception throws the nil-index error.

Game does not handle that nil

you have intercept and make it skip

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, so I was right initially

[celest valve]

I'm not sure if it's 'weird with positioning', it's more like there is supposed to be an intentional exception for daemonhosts that are not currently trying to kill the party, to prevent random jumping of warpfire from landing on them.

[ripe obsidian]

Well, sort of right

[untold creek]

try in psykanium and push specials to a spawned DH

kill one with warpfire talent and you will see it wont try to move to the dh

[celest valve]

Likely at some point, it yeets the daemonhost out of the list of targets nearby. This could result in a nil-index error, yes, if there is nothing else.

[untold creek]

thats the check

[ripe obsidian]

I said earlier I thought it was something to do with a nil issue

[untold creek]

if its awakened it will

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire is supposed to ignore sleepy DHs

if not enemy_breed.tags.witch then

I think the added world position line is irrelevant to the crash, based on what I see and what Ryly is saying

And Ryly seems to know more than me

[untold creek]

I created the fix lol

So i know it works

[ripe obsidian]

Ryly does know more than me.

[untold creek]

but it wont help the teammates

[ripe obsidian]

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you don't know what you're talking about

Tone is hard in text. D:

[celest valve]

local blackboard = BLACKBOARDS[target_unit] based on mentioning the blackboard it's possibly this, because a sleeping enemy may not be on that yet(or may not have a perception component)

[untold creek]

I didnt take it that way dont worry, the fix is nothing perfect i just bummed off an old mod since it already methods

[celest valve]

the fix at a glance seems to have "blackboards and " which is I think a way to fix the nil error by always having something returned

[summer prairie]

Was it some ogryn fix

[ripe obsidian]

So something got changed about DH code or... something? that makes this borked?

[celest valve]

if perception and perception.aggro_state == "aggroed" and/or this one

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know enough to understand why the issue suddenly started happening this patch. It seems like the error was already potentially there, but not happening for some reason.

[deft stump]

Spaghetti code be like that.

[untold creek]

Mind its kinda 2 fold fix, there is this looping fix i added here -- Prevent crash in warp_fire stop_func but also FixedFrame.get_latest_fixed_time(), it had some issue of getting called but essentially returning nil. So I added a safeguard in the function to prevent another crash. So technically there is 2 issues, the buff stack issue with warpfire and dh that I loop, it just checks for the DH breed, and it attempts a blackboard perception read, if it fails it just skips it by handling it. Second fix, ones you get passed the buff issue is that some fixedframe thats being called that for some reason in VERY odd times just returns nil

[ripe obsidian]

This feels like it was not coded well in the first place, but I don't know enough to say.

[mighty cipher]

Do we finally know exactly what was causing the crashes?

[zealous wing]

other than wildfire being the trigger?

[restive nymph]

does "Penetration of the Soul" apply to soulblaze?

[deft stump]

Spaghetti.

[ripe obsidian]

Nil error because Daemonhosts are invalid targets, in short.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, but it's not a good talent. Especially since Uncanny exists.

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
But Soulblaze Adms are pretty high overall
So you'd only get value on carapace

Which is basically only crushers

Just melee those

[astral finch]

What are the go to perks and blessings on flame staff??

[marble crater]

Flak + crit chance/unyielding/maniac
Nexus + Blaze Away

[astral finch]

Not Carapace?

[weary crane]

They fixed kinetic flayer bug???

[astral finch]

Or does the actual burn kinda just do its thing?

[jovial juniper]

Not worth it

[astral finch]

Is pentrating flames alright for now?

[marble crater]

Soulblaze deals like no damage to carapace

[strong gulch]

Can you be more specific?

[zealous wing]

its uncanny on a force sword doing the hard work

[strong gulch]

Pen flames is fine but nexus is good and blazeaway is great

[astral finch]

Okay, so, sounds stupid when I type it, but for the damage bonuses, you wanna boost something that a weapon inherently can deal decent damage to, not something that is just doesn't really damage in the first place?

[jovial juniper]

Soulblaze damage is pretty high against everything but carapace
PenFlames would only get value against carapace
But it is straight up better if you melee those

[zealous wing]

yes, put carapace on the force weapon for instance, and the dot will take on the attributes of your melee when you switch to it

[strong gulch]

depends

Inferno does such a bad job that investing in cara doesn't really help it (doesn't meaningfully enough help it)

Please note that SB DoT killing things with the help of uncanny (and power / strength blessings) is not the same as inferno killing things.

DoTs take on buffs actively and thus benefit from weapon blessings.

Inferno cannot get uncanny, but the SB DoT can.

[astral finch]

Ah, okay. Thank you guys. You've been super helpful so far, I really appreciate it.

[mighty cipher]

That’s what we’re here for

[marble crater]

I thought we were here to shitpost and flame each other

[strong gulch]

Sut. We need to barrel each other soon. Otherwise we can't claim to be feuding with each other.

also

Hi

[marble crater]

Hi

okay, soon it is

Tomorrow I will rebuild my... builds

[strong gulch]

fuck

right

that

no wildfire

[mighty cipher]

I will never forget that time I got flamed for running wildfire. And now look at it.

[zealous wing]

i fucking CANT 😭 😂

[marble crater]

I only skimmed, what exactly is wrong with wildfire now? Crashes the game?

[mighty cipher]

Pretty much

[zealous wing]

with DHs yes

[zealous wing]

LMFAO

"class to weak, i'm going back to arby"

[marble crater]

Some bugs are just fun

[zealous wing]

ye it crashes everyone in the match

so, no wildfire in rituals

[royal totem]

To be fair

[marble crater]

I have an idea...

[royal totem]

I think arby is a less ass leveling experience

[zealous wing]

well thats because arby is the same the whole way through

your starter weapons are actually ok, you have dog, you have decent stats

every other class, scum included, do not get such luxuries

[royal totem]

Yes but like

The point is...

The leveling exp sucks so much i cant blame them for feeling that way

[mighty cipher]

Psyker gets BB to start.

[zealous wing]

very weak bb

[mighty cipher]

Not the greatest but it works for lower diffs.

[zealous wing]

arby get arbites grenades

im sure a lvl 1 arby in auric would go much much smoother than lvl 1 psyker in auric

or lvl 1 vet, or lvl 1 oggy, zealot, scum

[royal totem]

Yes.

But its still pretty damn rough

[astral finch]

Alright, so, as a general rule of thumb for this OTHER war gear set I have, im using assail and VS, into Warp Siphon with 6 charges and the reduced peril generation per stack, just slamming into warp spamming. How would using DD feel instead?

This is also more of a "caster" build fyi

[weary crane]

There was a bug where kf will proc at max peril but not do anything

But now they've done my suggestion of removing the critical peril limit entirely

Thank you fatshark

[strong gulch]

That one ye

[weary crane]

I didn't see it in patch notes though

Did rupture always have 50% DMG from BB?

[strong gulch]

I didn't know if you meant that or if you meant proccing KF on a DH immediately makes it aggro.

[zealous wing]

what ability?

or vs as in shriek not the staff

[astral finch]

Shriek

[strong gulch]

I think it was in the notes. IDK where but remember reading it.

[weary crane]

KF can now trigger at critical peril, thank god

[astral finch]

I hold Shriek as an "Oh shit" button

[zealous wing]

define oh shit

[astral finch]

Oh shit im about to explode, or, Oh shit I need breathing room right now or Im gonna die lol

[strong gulch]

You shriek at 85% peril (with default ui) to get 6 SB stacks on enemies. Can do it sooner for stagger or saving a dogged team mate through a wall. Same as other shriek builds.

[zealous wing]

what staff do you use

[astral finch]

Well, just now slapped on a new flame staff

[zealous wing]

then stick with shriek and siphon

bb KF will also be better

than assail

[strong gulch]

VS wants DD.

Other staves (unless bolt LMB spam) nearly always want warp siphon (shriek assumed)

[astral finch]

Mostly because when assail charges are down, I had no horde clear with the Illisi and EK staff

[zealous wing]

inferno is the horde clear

[astral finch]

Oh yeah, That was my first match and Im privy to it now lol

[zealous wing]

and yeah illisi not great, sadly

[astral finch]

I kinda need a Carapace check though.

[strong gulch]

If doing VS, shriek or SG, try to pair it with assail and FGS.

[zealous wing]

FGS, or obscurus, or deimos would go better for you. deimos for singletarget, obscurus for a quick mix of horde/single, FGS for a great mix of horde/single

deimos will knock cara on their ass, FGS can just, bonk a few times and its dead

old clip so ignore the skissues probably present

oh yeah theres skissues

[strong gulch]

Also note that when building left side tree, basically for staves, melee will not hit as hard as right side. So if you see someone saying x melee 2 taps crushers, that does not apply if you are not built for that.

Still strong but contect matters.

[astral finch]

Mk6 or Mk8? I use a Mk6 on my melee build, but maybe Mk8 would be better for THIS build?

[zealous wing]

ye thats why i said a few bonks

and NO

mk 6

its not technically better but its so much better

[strong gulch]

Use whichever FGS you like.

[zealous wing]

mk 6 has far easier stab access

[strong gulch]

Ye

[zealous wing]

if youre used to mk6 use mk6

100%

[strong gulch]

ye

I'd rather take an option I know I can use vs something I know I can't.

[astral finch]

Sorry, used to the Mk8

[zealous wing]

rip

do you at least know how to stab

if not, push attack to get access

(it takes stamina and peril to do)

[astral finch]

Hold push then attack, right?

[strong gulch]

No sorry. If you prefer the 8 then you prefer the 8.

If it turns out that your preferences change later, then that is ok too.

I don't like my big stab being kinda gatekept on FGS8.

But that is just me.

[zealous wing]

so rude of it

its a sexy sword

[strong gulch]

If the FGS8 moveset just makes sense to you, then it's fine to use.

[zealous wing]

i wanna use its skin on mk6

[astral finch]

On the 6, is it part of the heavy chain?

[strong gulch]

ye

H2

[astral finch]

Ooh

[strong gulch]

also after the special

[astral finch]

Oh boy

[zealous wing]

MK 6 tutorial of use

ah fuck only NOW i realise

it has no stab

i cut it too soon

FUCKKKKK

ive used this clip like 5 times

[strong gulch]

The attacks are a little slower, but still I prefer FGS6 over 8; even with my slower reaction time.

[zealous wing]

darktide gives me work

i need to remake builds

i need to remake clips

:sdvjonsdjfvbnsoavbodsbfvd

zv

[astral finch]

Oh, what about Empyric Shock? For flame staff?

Seems good, but im asking experts first lol

[zealous wing]

its the kind of talent that goes great on primary focused builds

[strong gulch]

Hence why I am no longer the keeper of the builds. I can't keep up.

[zealous wing]

ie, surge surge

[astral finch]

Oh, the staff primary isn't really what's doing the damage, its the SF

[zealous wing]

i switched to vet, to get him some drip, and remembered he has no builds now, and i almost deleted him

i dont play vet enough nor mega enjoy, very meh, itll get the job done, character

[zealous wing]

on inferno, yes

on surge surge, its the only attack you use

i need to sit down and just, archive all of my builds

half the pain is hunting them down if they're ones someone helped me make, or staring at the tree trying to remember wtf it was because its all just poof

worst part is knowing for SURE what the main things were (blitz, ability, keystone) but absolutely nothing in between

[astral finch]

Are there any few talents that just kinda HAVE to be on Psyker? Just non-negotiable?

[astral finch]

CDR is king in EVERY game lmao

[zealous wing]

and ofc the usual warp rider

vulnerable minds, warp ghost, they're fucking GREAT dont get me wrong, but they are entirely optional by technicality

VM is better on meleeker/gunker than it is on inferno for example, so if youre there for boss damage you take it, but if youre not (staff psykers are not boss damage), then its a preference point

[astral finch]

Hmm. I need to make room for another talent then. I have 1 left over but dont have that middle node that leads to Warp Rider

[zealous wing]

do you have the website yet for build sharing?

[astral finch]

Yeah but its acting funky for me and no wanting to load

[zealous wing]

weird, but, fair enough

talky more and you can send screenshots :p

did you take something like puppet master, crystalline will, or empyric resolve?

[astral finch]

I cant post pictures for some reason?

But, Empyric Resolve, yeah

Not puppet master though

[zealous wing]

you could probably make do without it, least once you get stuff upgraded so quelling doesnt feel as slow

[zealous wing]

not red name yet, gotta talk more

[astral finch]

I just dm'ed them to you

At the very least

[zealous wing]

want me to send them here for you?

dont have to say yes ofc

[astral finch]

Sure, any input is greatly appreciated

[strong gulch]

The game lantern website is official and lets you post links from there even with grey name perms.

[strong gulch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[astral finch]

The site is being janky for me and won't load the page

[strong gulch]

mobile?

[astral finch]

Yeah

[strong gulch]

fecking same
also rip

Is the build for inferno?

[zealous wing]

k for easier viewing

[strong gulch]

There's builds in the pins btw.

[zealous wing]

this is what you have currently

[astral finch]

Yeah, thank you

I think I could probably lose Quietude since I dont generate much peril

[strong gulch]

*build with wildfire was here. It's causing problems with DHs.

[zealous wing]

i would say

wildfire DOES have that bug

[strong gulch]

I selected where warp rider used to be.

[zealous wing]

the DH one

[strong gulch]

LMAO

right

[zealous wing]

if you wanted to keep your blend of melee and inferno with not as much focus on lighting absolutely everything on fire, this is also an option, extra point WOULD go to wildfire, but for now its badly broken

i dont advise to 100% do this

[strong gulch]

No wildfire but has ES as a travel node.

4 points left for inferno

[zealous wing]

but if youre having fun, this might benefit you a little bit more and keep what youre doing

mind in motion can be skipped due to the fact you can quell while sliding, and quelling is pretty quick anyway, and ethereal shards is not needed if you have warp splitting

[strong gulch]

But yeah, what I posted is more for ease or meta.

Not built for your particular desires.

[zealous wing]

its definitely a mash up of meleeker and caster, but, you can always have your fun

[astral finch]

Could I swap out Mind in Motion for By Crack of Bone?

And just use melee to manually quell?

[strong gulch]

I would not take BCoB unless you are doing SG.

[zealous wing]

if you want your "oh shit" button to be a bigger "oh shit" button, do make sure shriek is upgraded as marked

[strong gulch]

You can single tap quell to get enough room to cast again.

Or quell a little to do similar.

[zealous wing]

bcob is quite a little overkill, yeah

[mighty cipher]

That one Wildfire crash fix mod is clientside only as of now right?

[strong gulch]

yes

Banish team from your dream and clutch.

it's fine

[zealous wing]

its also important to know that if you split between "build types", you wont get the ideal results compared to if you picked a lane to go down, so if you like the melee, and you like the inferno, it would be better to have a separate build for both. you wont be slaughtering everything (bosses included) as a frontliner if you have inferno and shriek, and you wont be absolutely slaughtering all the trash mobs from the backline if you dont have perilous combustion, wildfire, kinetic flayer

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-16757454

[zealous wing]

oh btw

that crash

is it if wildfire tries to get to the DH?

so like, if inferno, warn them to not flame things nearby her?

[astral finch]

Now, for some reason, if I had the points for it, would Grabbing Warp Ghost be a thing here?

[zealous wing]

for maintaining high peril, its a glorious tool yes

[strong gulch]

yes

also red name

let's go

[astral finch]

Me??

Oh shit, sick

Well, its black for me, but still

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ritahayworth-gilda-hairflip-sassy-fab-gif-4998005916497632291

[astral finch]

In that same "extra point" vein, for warp Siphon, psychic vampire or in fire reborn?

[strong gulch]

IFR

[astral finch]

Copy that lol

[weary crane]

Someone has already made a mod for this lol?

[zealous wing]

this is what i run for inferno (left), and my gun psyker build (right) if you wanted to try them seperated

[mighty cipher]

It’s a scuffed, temporary, client-side only fix but yeah.

Hopefully they patch something soon with a REAL hotfix

[zealous wing]

warp speed on scriers is optional, technically, but not optional for me

(this is run with an FGS mk6 and a VRAKS infantry autogun with ammo dump stat)

[weary crane]

I've come back to psyker for havoc after maxing my hive scum

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-thinking-looking-what-do-you-want-gif-3598499330704574829

[zealous wing]

i need help

i need to stop buying rebreathers

im just looking at my cosmetics and i think even beans would feel sorry for me

[strong gulch]

I keep buying revolver skins...

we can be stupid together

[zealous wing]

beans you dont understand

i need more pants

[wheat seal]

just play a game in the new map with this staff, can u agree that staff is the worst?

[zealous wing]

second strongest stave there is

also dom was using that stave in the new map while we were doing damnation hive scum things, it was fine

well, until we all died and he had to deal with everything

sometimes he was fine

[strong gulch]

I have over 100 single pans of green eyeshadow (not including palettes). I get it.

[wheat seal]

very vulnerable at longe range

[zealous wing]

not reallllyyyyyy but i can see why

theres lots of cover there, was more vulnerable as hive scum than melee psyker

ee go brr

even inferno was fine on that map and it 100% has no long range ability

[strong gulch]

Honestly, it is easier to have some issues with ranged units on VB but is ultimately a skill issue; (I have it lol). LMB more, "herd" units better with RMB, aim and charge better.

That being said, assail can help.

Not the most optimized, but assail will get those scattered shooters.

[shrewd comet]

my psyker talents refuse to stick. no matter how many times i make a build -_-

[strong gulch]

There's an issue where a build isn't actually selected. Be sure to click into the actual build's icon then mess around with stuff. Getting out of the menus then going back in can also help with curios looking like they are missing.

[zealous wing]

hive scum is so clickyclickyclicky when youre on shivs

[sturdy reef]

Saw and crowbar better feel for me

Saw feels very rewarding on a melee/toxin build

[zealous wing]

might use the saw but needler takes out the crushers AND monstrosities (helps at least) and i get to enjoy shiv hordeclear

shivs feel very mobility based, i do enjoy, but oh boy is my hand gonna get tired lmao

[strong gulch]

Shiv fun. Fecks hands up.

Even more than knife

I still haven't tried bonesaw and needle pistol.

[radiant frigate]

i imagine them be a lot like dual daggers from vt2

[royal totem]

i can't shiv

too much click

hand hurty

especially cuz hands frozen cuz of winter

[ripe obsidian]

Scum does remind me of elf.

[radiant frigate]

zippy, high damage and dies in one hit
the quintessential rogue archetype

[royal totem]

@strong gulch do you like crowbar more or saw?

[radiant frigate]

previously this was psyker

[strong gulch]

Haven't tried saw yet. Crowbar seems fine but I don't think it's for me. I don't it like I hate chainsword.

[ripe obsidian]

Too many attacks per round to be a rogue.

[radiant frigate]

monk but fuelled by crack instead of chi

[astral finch]

Ight, so, I made some weird changes

[strong gulch]

The switching on crowbar anti my brain. I don't easily recognize when weapons swap in general. So the flipping directions is hard for me to know if it happened or not which makes depending on attacks nearly impossible. That plus needing to stop in order to rotate the crowbar is terrible for me. I am sure there is tech there for the special.

[zealous wing]

oh yeah main mod loader updated, and so did guarentee weapon swap by the way, just in case you didnt know yet

[strong gulch]

I just got em up to date 🫡

[zealous wing]

beautiful

i forgot to check for numericUI

[strong gulch]

Idk if everything is working yet tho. In the meat grinder now and I had some mods with issues.

I removed kill tracker (wasn't even using it), custom hud, and numeric UI

I applied syllo's scoreboard fix to make it shut up

[zealous wing]

ye numUI was causing crash upon load into a game (or psyk)

[strong gulch]

My game crashed on psyk load. Something something melee element

[zealous wing]

no update for it

just now or earlier with numeric

[strong gulch]

now

I haven't checked if it's just one crashing or not

[zealous wing]

i know these ones work because i have them right now, they aren't organised tho so i do apologise:

creature_spawner
true_level
guarantee_weapon_swap
ChatBlock
ForTheEmperor
ForTheVacuumCapsule
danger_zone
CleanForceBlocking
custom_hud
DisableScreenEffects
PerilGauge
WarpUnboundTimer
markers_aio
PlayerDeathfeed
DisplayPing
InspectFromSocial
SoloPlay

work as in, at least dont crash me by existing

so you can know its not one of these, to help narrow it down some

[tulip kettle]

the melee element one is likely to be numeric ui

[zealous wing]

only things ive updated was weaponswap and the loader so far

[long wharf]

goddamnit, why are pugs such utter trash

[strong gulch]

numreicUI is crashing yeah

[astral finch]

@zealous wing , dont destroy me for what you're about to see lol

[zealous wing]

oh dear lord

[strong gulch]

custom hud seems fine

[long wharf]

Scummer doesn't have the carry potential of other classes

[zealous wing]

im scared to ask... is this for melee or is this your inferno

[astral finch]

Lol

Umm

[zealous wing]

because if melee its actually okish

like, 80% there

[astral finch]

Its ACTUALLY weirdly a hybrid with EK

[zealous wing]

RMB ek or LMB ek spam

[radiant frigate]

or EK for peril to fuel the melee?

nvm it's sg

[astral finch]

Its mostly Secondary, but primary gets used on bosses for sure, some situations I use Primary, just depends on the situation

[radiant frigate]

EK definitely a strange pick in that build

[astral finch]

Dude, I clutched tf up. Team got tripled knocked on a crusher wave spam, they all got hit by an overhead

I had horde, like 6 crushers, a few scab ragers, and a few other specialists.

I didn't use SG much, I pocketed it until I needed it, but the amount of horde clear was insane between assail and FGS, and EK was doing wild damage to Carapace and bosses. Crit and SF was keeping me alive, DD was keeping me mobile

Its weird, but I LIKE it

[royal totem]

i see where you're going with your build but it could probs be a bit better. i think you hit most of the major points though

[astral finch]

Biggest thing I noticed is if I got hit, I got HIT. Hard.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a082182d-a18f-4b98-9e1c-8e92faf142fd/weird

I feel like the unstable power blessing is a bit counterintuitive with BCoB, but using Assail/Staff up to max peril and then NEEDING to swap to melee, that first hit on swap is DEVASTATING.

But, almost constantly crit'ing, setting tons of enemies on fire with Blazing Spirit, and anything on fire dying was restoring toughness with Souldrinker.

[ripe obsidian]

This feels more correct, thank you

[analog agate]

Whats the skinny on the new class

[ripe obsidian]

It go fast and it do lots of damage

And then it fall over when hit

Unlimited ammo is goofy and good use of toxin can outdamage soulblaze in H40

[strong gulch]

@zealous wing Think this is the mod for the clientside wildfire DH fix. #psyker-class message

[radiant frigate]

so, in a weird roundabout way, it is psyker 2?

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

[languid furnace]

Late response but I love the energy haha

[languid furnace]

I don’t think Psyker is actually all that squishy

[royal totem]

i can't figure out whether i should use chem grenade or the default grenade

[warped fable]

questions for a voidblast vent build for the number cruncher folks...

1. dose voidblast crit often enough to make Empathic Evasion worth it? (testing in games i can tell it procs some times but no where as often as it dose when i flame staff so its to me it feels too inconsistent but it could just my bad luck?)
2. what is the best way to get max DPS out of the voidblast?
   By my testing it looks like the best way is to chain full charges but i dont have a way to prove that "by the numbers"

[lament jay]

Currently a level 17 psyker, got a build thats working really well for me rn and was wondering if its worth investing for later game builds, build is basically an elite-specialist build that utilizes brain burst and soul fire, it utilizes the "auto pop" that activates on elites and specialist and a bunch of perks and skills that benefit from killing elites and specialists to deal with ads as well. Of course, I have soulfire staff as a primary, but im currently using chain axe as a melee just for kicks, main question really is should I invest into this or will this build become useless into lategame?

[mint sluice]

Perma-Smite scryers gaze is so fucking dumb lol

I love it

[lament jay]

Also please @lament jay me so I can see ur text im bad at checking back on discord 🙏

[warped fable]

ive messed with this... i find it boring AF to play

[radiant frigate]

builds like that are extremely common in havoc

but usually seen with dueling sword instead of chainaxe (same niche but different)

[lament jay]

Oh sweet so i dont gotta worry about being underwhelming, thx!

[royal totem]

i encountered a psyker

named PraiseHorus

[ripe obsidian]

Kinda. Less utility and no infinite cleave tho

[ripe obsidian]

I have many lategame-ready builds in the pinned build guide

[lament jay]

Oh I guess that woulda been another way to check lol

Wait how do I find the build guides.

?

[ripe obsidian]

It is in the pins on this channel

Build Bonanza

[lament jay]

Oh found it thx

[ripe obsidian]

Ping me if you have questions. I will respond when I can

[strong gulch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/73

[wispy bay]

My ganger is only level 15 after 2 days. I just can't grind the game like I used to it seems.

[deft stump]

Question, curio substats for ganger?

[wispy bay]

Same as usual I guess?

[royal totem]

i think i've played enough for today

blehhhhhhh

[quiet inlet]

nevarrrrrr!

[royal totem]

i leveled my scum from like 13 or 15 to 30

and it wasn't fast or efficient cuz a lot of missions failed

and it was just by playing malice and heresy

[strong gulch]

===

[wind spruce]

My hive scum was level 25 before I won a mission hehe

Not even joking

Took an hour

[royal totem]

death

oh wait

did you just do the like auric/damnation twins cheese?

[wind spruce]

Yepp

[royal totem]

ah yea

i had nobody to help me do that

at the end of the day, i'm pretty much a solo player

it's better that way

[quiet inlet]

gonna start thte auric grind?

[wind spruce]

Yeah I got lucky had some guys i play with occasionally invite me in

[royal totem]

i don't really play with people

i don't really like to

[wind spruce]

What I didn't realise was that i couldn't queue into higher levels myself without winning the lower difficulties

Crashed out a lil when I realised I still had to queue into uprising lmao

[royal totem]

luckily they made the grind to rank up from uprising>malice>heresy>damnation>auric faster

[wind spruce]

It shouldn't exist for players with a level 30 character imo

[royal totem]

it should

because

then you'd get a ton of level 1s queing into auric

thinking they're hot shit

but all they do is die

i do think though, it should be a lot faster

[wind spruce]

I never really had that happen when it was still possible to do that tho

Three wins is reasonable

[royal totem]

i reached damnation and met a ton of hive scum that probably got carried to damnation cuz all they did was die over and over

[royal totem]

3-5 something like that is pretty reasonable imo yeah

[wind spruce]

Yeah people are struggling so bad with scums survivability

[royal totem]

i don't think i'll play scum much. i don't think it's my playstyle

[wind spruce]

I'm investing extra points into defence while I'm learning the class

[royal totem]

it's not like a survivability issue cuz like i'm surviving in damnation fine

but like i just don't really like it

[wind spruce]

Not an aggressive, dive into the madness sort of player?

[heavy dagger]

is essence harvest good?

[royal totem]

not at all

[wind spruce]

Yes

Essence harvest has a very high uptime on auric+ and 6% per second with a 5s duration is very solid

[heavy dagger]

ok bet

is kinetic flayer even worth taking

i keep seeing mixed opinions

[royal totem]

Im a book zealot main

[wind spruce]

It's very good

And even stronger since they buffed it in the scum patch

[potent echo]

I changed my mind of flayer it's good now

Wait flayer changed this patch?

[wind spruce]

Can now trigger at critical peril

[potent echo]

[wind spruce]

They called it a bug which is bullshit since it was in the talent description

But that's why a lot of people missed it. Was buried in the bug fixes

[heavy dagger]

they need to update the description then

wth

should i take just a dream with quietude?

[potent echo]

Both are good talents

You should take them if your build has spare points

[heavy dagger]

im running inferno and shriek

[wind spruce]

quietude is standard in pretty much every build

[heavy dagger]

i might remove penetration of the soul

[potent echo]

You should definitely have empathic if you hadn't already

That's the best talent in that cluster for inferno

[wind spruce]

yeah pretty mid talent

[heavy dagger]

oh yea i got that

[potent echo]

Penetration is nice if you don't want to do uncanny stuff

But yea not needed

[wind spruce]

yeah for a relatively new player using inferno its probably a reasonable pick just to enable crusher deaths without any hassle

so far my issue with hive scum is that i forget i have grenades and stims and often combat ability

lmao

[heavy dagger]

i got tired of scum, back to psyker i go

[potent echo]

Is it cope when scum chat says shivs are better than combat blade

The toxic knives part is better for sure but dps is much lower imo

Also nerfed uncanny

[heavy dagger]

i wonder if combat blade pairs better with inferno staff than dueling sword

[royal totem]

I dont get why ppl play with me tbh

[cedar delta]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a027409f-a745-44c1-b76a-045c26d47fa3/the-ultimate-inferno-psyker

is this the best psyker build?

[potent echo]

Unsanctioned does combat blade

Is preference

[strong gulch]

Feck off. We like you.

I don't get why people play with me either, but they do.

[heavy dagger]

idk looks eh

[potent echo]

Inferno performs really well in havocs, and thats a pretty big standard inferno build

[royal totem]

I associate winning with fun. And i make pll lose all the time.

[cedar delta]

got a link for a better one?

[heavy dagger]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff37923-45f7-4691-93c5-4c6b0f8e58a9/soulblaze-inferno-staff-psyker-current

[heavy dagger]

i'd drop essence harvest for just a dream

if you really want to max out peril dmg

[strong gulch]

The winning thing is a you issue. I get it, suffer that issue as well but also we can both feck off on that.

I threw myself repeatedly off ledges and we all still had a good time.

[royal totem]

Huh.....

[strong gulch]

I really do like you and look forward to playing with you.

Stop the self flaying tho.

[cedar delta]

ty

[strong gulch]

If you don't, I'm gonna mute you.

Talk nice to my friend.

https://tenor.com/view/roflandz-mad-kitten-kitten-cute-kitten-kitten-cute-gif-16550226608314266617

[potent echo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[royal totem]

I lost like 12 games today

It was horrible

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-the-simpsons-two-knives-i-gotta-tell-ya-this-is-pretty-terrific-gif-27687620

How I view Scum.

[mighty cipher]

Just put someone on the block list for the first time. Dude was an ogryn that kept disconnecting constantly from our match.

Wasn't even crashes. By his own admittance it was laggy as fuck for him

[strong gulch]

Sometimes it's like that.

[brazen merlin]

Does assail count as a ranged attack?

[strong gulch]

It can vary a lot by day and even by patch.

[royal totem]

Sometimes

Server is fine

Other days i do suffer dat

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. I also recommend Kuli's mechanics guides (in the pins) as he is a tech priest who makes sense of the madness

This pleases me.

[royal totem]

Wonder if i can find a h31 carry this week

[strong gulch]

I hope I can even play havoc this week.

I don't have high hopes tbh.

[royal totem]

If not ill play a sub 20 havoc

[strong gulch]

But it's a fresh new season and people are climbing to 40 again.

[royal totem]

I have h30 but mine is assssss

[strong gulch]

I forgot to double check what mine is. Can't check when below lvl 30.

I know there is gas.

[royal totem]

Mine is rituals+blight spreads+gas

No extra tox bombers though

I cant play without mods though

I like playing book zealot cuz ppl dont expect much of me except use bokk on cd

[heavy dagger]

thoughts on combat blade with inferno?

[royal totem]

Not as good in lots of respects as deimos or obscurus with inferno

[heavy dagger]

ahh ok

i just use DS, want to switch it up with something else

[royal totem]

Itll be fine in auric though and depending on havoc modifiers

[ripe obsidian]

AgentChaos uses combat knife with Inferno

[woeful sigil]

I was stacking bleed with it but its kinda not worth it

[royal totem]

Yeah but chaos is special.

Also, i think ive seen chaos use fs 🤔

Playing with chaos is basically running simulator

[woeful sigil]

I used to love combat knife but FGS 2 shotting crushers is just too good

[strong gulch]

knife with inferno is fine

mobility stick plus has uncanny

you want uncanny

[woeful sigil]

whats uncanny

[strong gulch]

Uncanny Strikes is a melee blessing.

it's rending

a big source of it

[woeful sigil]

o

I haven't played in awhile

[strong gulch]

Force sword is the easiest to get uncanny procs with

[elfin roost]

https://tenor.com/view/evilwizardcat-gif-16657991134775678911

[strong gulch]

because the PA is 9m

[woeful sigil]

I actually miss soloing demon hosts with combat knife

if you max block effeciency you can actually box the shit out of it

[strong gulch]

stam ends up being more in psyker with KD

DS has parry now.

[woeful sigil]

ffs why

[strong gulch]

It's even easier to kill DH now.

[strong gulch]

"balance"

i guess

[woeful sigil]

oh wait you said DS not DH

[strong gulch]

the heavies don't do as much but still hit decently hard

[woeful sigil]

I thought you were telling me demon host parries

I was about to rage

and I haven't even played in months

[strong gulch]

The DS parry is not as good as devil's claw.

On psyker it builds peril and can explode you, so be aware.

[woeful sigil]

I never used DS even when it was OP

I still wish they had a psyker dagger

I want to have deflector on my combat knife

[royal totem]

I use ds only

On my zealot

[strong gulch]

Been asking for years. I'm sure it'll drop when we get new staves.

[weary crane]

Dclaw is safer to parry DH

I used to do it in havoc 40s for the meme

But I don't take KD anymore

It's good they didn't make duel sword parry like dclaw, it would be too OP and no skill

But duel sword parry is still great, I never seen teammates using it though

[royal totem]

i use it sometimes

but i forget it exists

[strong gulch]

neat
stimm timer

[royal totem]

how'd you get that? 😮

[lone ravine]

Mod that came out

[royal totem]

ahh

[strong gulch]

A mod.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/653

There's also this one. https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/654

[royal totem]

ah

seems cool but

i've decided hive scum isn't for me

too high attention gameplay

[strong gulch]

valid

[royal totem]

requires my mind to not want to distract itself. which does sometimes but pretty rarely happen

i have the best of both worlds. ADHD and autism after all 🙂

[brazen merlin]

Is perilous combustion worth having?

[fierce crest]

its one of the best talents

[strong gulch]

I'm hoping that it isn't making me sick. Stimm supply does. outside of that I'm hoping that it's just a coincidence that I've been worse.

[royal totem]

along with wildfire

[royal totem]

makes you sick how so? 😮

[strong gulch]

Yes

[brazen merlin]

Okay, thanks.

[fierce crest]

i wouldnt say wildfire is one of the best talents

but its decent

[strong gulch]

Make my head hurt, stomach churn, and makes me dizzy.

[brazen merlin]

Does anything increase soulfire damage?

[fierce crest]

anything that boosts general damage

[strong gulch]

Wildfire is good.

More SB sources the better. if there is little SB, then it's a skip

[fierce crest]

for example

[strong gulch]

Bug not assumed.

[royal totem]

ah 🙁 valid

i would say wildfire is one of the best talents. (for inferno mainly though probably also blaze trauma but idk dat)

[strong gulch]

Any of the talents that increase damage like warp rider, perfect timing, etc

But you can also DoT max with uncanny strikes and superiority on force sword

[royal totem]

anybody here have a havoc 20+ without final toll that they'll let me play with them?

[fierce crest]

lemme check

[heavy dagger]

i thought wildfire was limited, so it adds stacks? sweet

[royal totem]

i need a higher clearance so people will actually accept me into parties

and i don't want to use a TS title

[fierce crest]

it cant get a target above 4 stacks but it helps get them ready for more burinating

[heavy dagger]

ahh ok

[fierce crest]

also can set off kinetic flayer if you didnt otherwise have a special/elite burning

[strong gulch]

Yeah it's about snow balling SB quickly and getting KF and PC procs which wildfire helps to feed. It also feeds souldrinker and in fire reborn.

[royal totem]

pox gas is so death though 🙁

i'm also currently in a havoc

[heavy dagger]

can you guys tell me what i can do to make this build better or give me any advice, i just finished the new map on auric for the first time on psyker and almost did 1mil https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a08272c1-417c-4bd5-924a-06d005c675b8/psycho-psykerr?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[potent echo]

Are you sprint sliding while channeling inferno?

[heavy dagger]

noo i never did that

[potent echo]

[heavy dagger]

i need to learn techs but i’ll start doing that for sure, looks nice

[runic hornet]

Sliding state makes you immune to ranged attack, you don't even need to get "out of hte way"

Hold the crouch button to extend your slide for extra window of protection at the cost of slowing your speed, this is very important for doing stuff like evade multiple sniper shots in a row

[fierce crest]

well pingme if u wannt, im feeding my kities

[royal totem]

i'm halfway through this havoc 3

[nocturne wasp]

[royal totem]

?

[nocturne wasp]

Just lurking lmao

I'll be on shortly if you wanna play

[fierce crest]

Kiten

[nocturne wasp]

Gud kiten

[royal totem]

if you want to i'm down to attempt havoc 20

i'm no carry though

after all, i'm not Karien 😏

@fierce crest

[fierce crest]

Let gooo

[royal totem]

my friend code is in my name

[fierce crest]

True

anyone else want in?

[cedar delta]

guys i just tried melee psy, its fun as fuck

[fierce crest]

force sword go swish swish

[royal totem]

i'll swap to vet if you don't find a good arb or something

days before somebody says wildfire is garbage: 0 @fierce crest

[fierce crest]

lol

[royal totem]

peak humor

[heavy dagger]

idk why i had empyric shock on my inferno build… i just replaced it with wildfire. good choice?

[vestal ingot]

err

[heavy dagger]

i run shriek btw

[vestal ingot]

kinda mid

[heavy dagger]

damn

[vestal ingot]

everything should be lit from staff and shriek anyway

and wildfire can only spread up to 4 soulblaze

[heavy dagger]

oh ok

[strong gulch]

Wildfire is good on builds with a lot of SB.

[heavy dagger]

ig i’ll take wildfire over shock, i gotta pick one

[strong gulch]

It's bad if not.

[heavy dagger]

@strong gulch can i send you a link to my build and you tell me if it’s good with wildfire

[strong gulch]

However don't run wildfire right now because it's bugged and crashes lobbies with DHs.

[heavy dagger]

okkk

[vestal ingot]

it's not just wildfire

perilous combustion too

[strong gulch]

On phone rn and having trouble with quick and clear thoughts. So now is not a good time.

There's builds in the pins.

Basically wildfire helps to precook, extend range, and feed KF, PC, soul drinker, and IFR.

[strong gulch]

It's just wildfire.

[heavy dagger]

thank you

[vestal ingot]

idk it crashed on me

after i killed heretic psyker

[strong gulch]

That is what community wide testing and the mod fix has shown.

[vestal ingot]

ic

[heavy dagger]

that’s perfect i have all of those

what mod shows passive abilities on the hud?

[nocturne wasp]

Executive disfunction is real
Sitting here staring at the title screen but I can't bring myself to pick a character to play

I think it's a TV night

[wind spruce]

Pretty sure it's an option in the interface if you mean auras like prescience and seers presence

[zealous wing]

no wildfire: ritual still crashed the game

[strong gulch]

The mod and the other testers missed something?

[zealous wing]

it still gave the wildfire line, but dom for sure does not have wildfire active

[strong gulch]

Uhhhh

[royal totem]

@fierce crest thanks :3 also, the blight spreads is super ass 😭

[fierce crest]

lol

[sturdy reef]

noone liked it in the first havoc rotation

Im not surprised

[fierce crest]

its not so bad with zealot cleanse aura

[sturdy reef]

I think its basically a free mod in most situations

[royal totem]

i rely on moving a lot on my vet and blight spreads severely limits that 🙁

a lot of the damage i took was from blight spreads

[fierce crest]

i felt like i wasnt taking more than like 5-10% corruption before it got healed

and then once thats happened it basically doesnt do anything until medicae

[royal totem]

i managed to take a lot more than that during one section lol

[fierce crest]

the triple boss was pretty fun

[royal totem]

that was my fault

[fierce crest]

that was my first havoc using shroudfield

[royal totem]

so i'm sorry

[fierce crest]

and it did great

[royal totem]

the pogryn came but i heazd it too late so i was slightly ahead and crossed a boss trigger

[fierce crest]

nah thats what we play havoc for

[royal totem]

for the pox gas 😏

[royal totem]

i didn't notice

what was your weapon

[strong gulch]

Apologies about my dismissing your coaim that PC is possibly also a culprit in the DH crashes.

Seems like a wildfire error is still popping up even when wildfire isn't selected.

Idk if PC is part of it or not, but clearly there's more happening.

[royal totem]

that's pretty poopy

.........

i'm going to scream

i realized i no longer have catmiral's build because builds reset

[fierce crest]

dagger braced auto

[royal totem]

ah. i see i see 😮

[fierce crest]

braced auto just cuz i like it

[royal totem]

was more curious why you decided to knife

normally we would have had less specials problems but no mods yet 🙁

[fierce crest]

knife go fast

[wind spruce]

11.5 stam? lmao

[fierce crest]

[royal totem]

fair enough. knife DOES go fast

i used to run thunder hammer stealth

but i decided it's a little too memes so now i just run DS stealth

[lime stirrup]

Need 3 for a private penance rq pls

[fierce crest]

being able to move like 30m while stealthed is really nice

[royal totem]

which one?

[fierce crest]

helps kills snipers and such

[lime stirrup]

Malleus Monstronum

[royal totem]

ok i'll help

inv me

[plucky flax]

You only need 1

[royal totem]

also yeah you really only need 1

or well 2 people total. 1 other person

[fierce crest]

cant bots mess it up

[royal totem]

you need 2 people total for private games

2 humans

to inv me, go to menus>social>press E to find player. enter the 10 numbers next to my n ame

[royal totem]

what game region are you btw

[zealous wing]

not really, they dont have the abilities nor weapons for keeping up with BB, but if one goes down definitely dont bother grabbing it, wont hurt long as you still have one to take aggro in case director says "no"

if a bot does more damage than a psykers BB i'd have questions as to where the help has been all these months

[royal totem]

well that's done

[lime stirrup]

Appreciate ya 🙂

[royal totem]

all good. i exist to help people with MM

(and to accidentally summon twins apparently)

[wind spruce]

Yeah the chance of bots doing more than 50% of the damage is effectively 0

[fierce crest]

crashed in rituals :(

i will ask the psyker if they had wildfire

nvm we must have all crashed cant reconnect

[ripe obsidian]

That is what wildfire does

Server crash

[plucky flax]

Stop playing the game until fs fix critical bug

[summer prairie]

I guess it's not actually a server crash, just all clients crash

[royal totem]

Still big rip

Does fs not test things?

[verbal thistle]

just dont accept psykers in games

easy fix

the psyker nerf

[summer prairie]

havoc probably didn't have rituals during testing, at least after these changes were implemented

Plus probably not a lot of psykers in general

[royal totem]

Fair. Still.

[verbal thistle]

its not rituals that does it

its just the demonhost

happens in non havoc

[summer prairie]

Sure, but you avoid the dh more

[verbal thistle]

yeah

wildfire doesnt really care about wanting to avoid

[royal totem]

Psykers

Outcasts once more

[alpine flax]

Does penetration of souls effect warp dot?

sry of the soul

[ripe obsidian]

Anyone doing H35+? I can't find a game in NA.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. But I don't recommend picking it.

[alpine flax]

AH

ok thanks!

[plucky flax]

Are you 40 yet?

[summer prairie]

Yes

@deft stump I've a bit under 3 hours now if you want to attempt the weekly

[plucky flax]

Is numeric ui fixed yet?

[summer prairie]

There's a temp fix that makes it work but has graphical glitches

the rest looks normal

[plucky flax]

Weapon customisation mod not updated

Does burga work if not picking wildfire?

[summer prairie]

I only played like 2 rounds overall with it, I guess it does

but I got outdamaged by hive scumm

it was a low damage map though

[plucky flax]

Wildfire adds like 300k damage tbf so

[summer prairie]

chem grenades steal your damage

it was a good map for them though, oubliette chokes

[plucky flax]

#1079236212239384597 message

This is the numeric ui fix?

Or did you make your own?

[summer prairie]

I think I got that one

I think you need base.zip from that too

[plucky flax]

What's the base? ALso in numeric ui?

[summer prairie]

There's a mod manager folder called "base" in the mods folder

[plucky flax]

This one doesn't require any base thing
#1079236212239384597 message

[summer prairie]

I actually probably have that too, but I got the previous one before and didn't read that you don't need the base. Don't think it hurts though

[plucky flax]

[summer prairie]

hmm no, I didn't have that and now I get an error on load. I wonder if it's due to the base

but with that version I don't have the graphical glitches

[plucky flax]

I'll try that version without using base.

Weird you can't have Meth as character name with hive scum.

Crosshair hud bug

Shows 0 ammo

[summer prairie]

did you get a numericui error when loading

[plucky flax]

Let me check

Do you have that?

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

Okay but the rest seems to work

[maiden oracle]

What enemy fucks up melee psyker the most

[plucky flax]

I can play couple rounds.

[maiden oracle]

And do you use a staff or a gun or just assail to snipe

[summer prairie]

ideally Karien would be around too

[plucky flax]

She doesn't want to carry a noob like you.

[summer prairie]

seem so

[plucky flax]

Karien also put me on ignore in pm.

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hacking-silly-cat-hacker-cat-hacker-gif-14852445362476137270

[cosmic sigil]

I crashed on numeric ui with the new dmf and mod loader. I did not update base tho.

[summer prairie]

I think this settles the wildfire debate

[plucky flax]

RIP screen

• all the spider sense stuff I couldn't see shit

The localisation is broken for me here

[summer prairie]

Looks normal for me, did you download the localization file too

[plucky flax]

Yeah scoreboard default plugin to put in base scoreboard mod.

[summer prairie]

but is this in the ovenproof one

[plucky flax]

Maybe you didn't tag me

It wasn't here #psyker-class message

[summer prairie]

oh

How come no one else complained

[abstract tree]

I've realised that the "Beloved" the seer is talking about could just as easily be the player rather then the God Emperor

[plucky flax]

They seem to nerf spawns? I know no rot makes it less of a slog but it's so easy now.

Also new patch so probably wildfire fix.

[summer prairie]

I think the spawns are the same

if you have a team that can move fast you just get less

This should be the wildfire fix

[plucky flax]

Yeah I am testing in meatgrinder

No crash at least here

I dunno if it crashed in here before or only in live match

Did you use pc on your build?

[summer prairie]

I couldn't get it to crash in the meatgrinder before too yeah

I had pc

[plucky flax]

Stealing my damage

Not like I had any without wildfire.

[summer prairie]

didn't I have like 16k warpfire damage

[plucky flax]

With blaze away that 16k is at least 30k

[deft stump]

I was asleep.

[plucky flax]

Lie

You talked in your sleep and said these 2 noobs aren't worth the time

I heard it

[empty granite]

can somebody walk me through how to stop throwing the game cuz i dont understand anything

[deft stump]

Is an idle game. I left it to run the inf lvl dungeon. Has been in bed.

[plucky flax]

Just keep playing and you'd pick up game's mechanics

[empty granite]

but what is consecrate and empower

[plucky flax]

Thats crafting. Consecrate let you out blessing on weapon. Empower increase its damage etc.

[empty granite]

was this a mistake? https://i.imgur.com/5cNUaPg.png

[solar sparrow]

can someone drop a havoc melee psyker build real fast

i love my talents getting reset every patch

[summer prairie]

Agent

[plucky flax]

Hi

[ripe obsidian]

Hi

[ripe obsidian]

Check the pinsssssssssssssssssss

I have so many builds

So many

[plucky flax]

Try this or bubble knight
https://youtu.be/LQtqumw1Ks8

[solar sparrow]

tyvm

[plucky flax]

I came home to get ready to fly out and found my mother used one of my favourite shirt as rag.

[empty granite]

oof im in the wrong channel i thought i was in hive scum

[wispy bay]

Understandable, reading is hard /s

[deft stump]

RIP. Pretty sure unsalvagable.

[ripe obsidian]

Today's havoc was not as successful

Ended at 37, but lost a bunch

[plucky flax]

Rip

I got to like 35 after 2 games getting carried in h40

Maybe ill get to 40 tonight

[ripe obsidian]

I went right from 30 to 35

And have stalled tonight

I'm also not playing very well, I think

[plucky flax]

Wildfire is fixed i think

Go back on it for ez win

[ripe obsidian]

Is it?

I've actually been playing Arby because every team already has a psyker

[summer prairie]

Most likely fixed, posted the fix above

[plucky flax]

Oh tru go arby its also op

[ripe obsidian]

Frabjous day

[summer prairie]

I guess the event is up too

[plucky flax]

500 aquila worth it

Fartshart Christmas present to the peasants

[ripe obsidian]

I am not a peasant. I am your king.

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-king-didnt-vote-gif-8051023

[plucky flax]

Wencelas is my king.

https://tenor.com/view/kingdom-come-deliverance-jesus-christ-henry-baptism-gif-6682580576226075279

[ripe obsidian]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LzG-qji05Lc

[cedar drum]

u guys like the staff, that deals this circle area damage?

[marble crater]

Voidblast? Yeah, love it

[plucky flax]

Solo playing twins auric to level up.

Pro cheat mod.

Oh it doesn't teleport if I'm by myself.

[marble crater]

Pro cheat mod

[plucky flax]

Guess I need 1 person with me to hit the bell with to teleport to the arena.

I thought just hitting it myself could teleport me and 3 bots.

[mighty cipher]

Want a Thammer zealot for some cheese?

[cedar drum]

I think so too!

[zealous wing]

want me to help?

[plucky flax]

After this havoc

[summer prairie]

set it to private if you do it with 2, faster loads

[zealous wing]

ye and i have access to auric so i can even start it

[summer prairie]

mmt uses your terminal public/private settings