psyker-class

[kindred geyser]

gun psyker 2 electric boogaloo

[jovial juniper]

Highlights? Check

Close range? Check

High mobility? Check

Some sort of ammo economy? Check

[vestal trench]

they done gentrified scrier's gaze

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker needs more drugs.

[summer prairie]

They fixed Rotten armor enemy DR not applying to melee damage, it's going to be uh interesting

[dull scroll]

and people thought the old psyker PA aura was op, this new scum medkite spreading cd stim makes that look like curio buff 😂

[royal totem]

As in harder to kill?

[summer prairie]

yes

[royal totem]

fun 🙁

[jovial juniper]

Wdym not applying to melee

It was always meant to be ranged dr only

Right?

RIGHT?

[royal totem]

wait.........what do you mean fixed?

this sounds like straight up they buffed rotten armor

this is gonna be so ass with the current modifiers pool

[summer prairie]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/rotten-armor-dr-only-applies-to-ranged-damage-despite-indications-that-it-should-also-apply-to-melee/111460

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

So basically

[summer prairie]

but they also supposedly fixed the DR thresholds so rotten enemies will take 25% more damage when under 50% hp

still, your first attack will tickle crushers

[jovial juniper]

Fatshark makes trickle hordes of rotten armor
Then gives it melee dr

That's hell

Like literally hell

[dull scroll]

if melee damage gets reduced even more than it is now rotten 40s would be undoable by the vast majority of parties
also imagine garden rotten

[jovial juniper]

This shit is so ass

[summer prairie]

trauma, dots and explosions can bypass the DR still

[zealous wing]

ah so now melee is useless, guns are useless. inferno uncanny abuse even more required. . . lovely

[jovial juniper]

Yeah it's probably PHS dots interaction all over again

[royal totem]

...............this actively seems to make the game worse imo

[dull scroll]

I for one welcome less stealing on my inferno damage farming 😌

[jovial juniper]

Yeah so now dots or 40 seconds to kill an enemy

[ripe obsidian]

That sounds miserable.

[jovial juniper]

The bright side is

Once they drop below 50%

You'd have bonus damage against them

[summer prairie]

so the bug will be fixed at least

50-75% hp is only 25% DR

[jovial juniper]

A bit more damage is always welcome

But melee dr rotten spam is just dogshit

[royal totem]

i do feel like this will make PF much more ass though

wh ich i don't approve

people in PF already try to sneak in jank af weapons into rotten armor and then procede to do nothing

[jovial juniper]

500 rotten Armor enemies

Your first 2-3 attacks don't do shit

[zealous wing]

people already deny inferno shriek because no bubble

[jovial juniper]

Your 4-5 don't do shit

[zealous wing]

party finder is worse than just asking randoms here in discord

[jovial juniper]

Your 6 kinda does something

[ripe obsidian]

I do something. Yay.

[void perch]

whats blaze force sword bless

same as greatsword?

[ripe obsidian]

Uncanny + Deflector/Superiority imo

[royal totem]

one day i'll scam Six into playing with me

[wraith sphinx]

party finder is qp but you wait 20 minutes instead of 1 to get a full team going

[void perch]

deflector is an odd choice

to me

[ripe obsidian]

Why?

[void perch]

because of uhh

[jovial juniper]

It's ok but I wouldn't run it

[void perch]

kinetic deflectin

[ripe obsidian]

...

Deflector and Kinetic Deflection do different things

[void perch]

yeah

i know

either way though deflector doesnt do mjuch for the weapon no?

[ripe obsidian]

It allows you to block bullets

[jovial juniper]

It yeah it basically allows your block to stop bullets

[royal totem]

it does a lot of things

what are you talking about

[jovial juniper]

It's deflector

There are better blessings available

It isn't bad in no way shape or form

[void perch]

OK

whats the alternative

to deflector

shred or unstable power?

[royal totem]

then again, i don't use deflector despite being a huge advocate for it

[jovial juniper]

Uncanny Strike
Precognition
Riposte
Superiority
Slaughterer

In no particular order

[royal totem]

i prefer PF though

[dull scroll]

deflector is one of the main reason, along with force push, you even take that thing, otherwise ds is just better at everything

[void perch]

OK

might be tru

but thats a non answer

[jovial juniper]

I mean not quite

Because at least the force swords can clear hordes at a reasonable time

[royal totem]

you also take it for easy application of uncanny but yeah

[jovial juniper]

And obscurus is a monstrosity of a carapace killer

You're just not as nimble as a DS

[dull scroll]

if we talking about obs that thing does not have a horde clear significantly better than ds lol, carapace is good but still a bit less than ds as now ds headshot staggers crusher

deimo's crusher is better than ds that is true, but all of them slower as hell

[void perch]

sooo

is slaughterer + uncanny

a decent choice

[jovial juniper]

Force Swords are very decent

The least popular rn is illisi though

[ripe obsidian]

I need to finish the weapons section of the guide. I have been lazy

Illisi is surpassed by FGS in every way

[dull scroll]

that thing is just a budget fgs, only upside is better mobility

and of course, "the stroke" 😏

[jovial juniper]

It's worse than budget FGS

Because at least FGS has strikedowns

[void perch]

sooo

[jovial juniper]

💀

[void perch]

obscurus + uncanny and slaughterer

fine pick?

if i dont use deflector

[jovial juniper]

Fine pick

[void perch]

OK ty chat

just wanted to know if id be insane for using it

i still am maining bfgs

but

figured id like a mobility pick too

[jovial juniper]

Oh uh

There's no real reason to use Obscurus/Deimos special

[zealous wing]

there is one case to use deimos special

those stim containers in the warren

is it faster? idk but its satisfying and harmless

idk how obscurus special is on them

[jovial juniper]

Same profile iirc

So similar performance

Should be

[inner parrot]

any tips for the Cliffhanger penance after bound bu duty ?

[deft stump]

Smite flick.

Take smite, Rmb, lmb horde near a hole, look towards direction you wanna fling, let go of lmb.

[strong gulch]

5th pin has tips

[royal totem]

Eziest in certain maps in priv game

[inner parrot]

thanks guys !

[torpid void]

May I receive a meme speed build for psyker?

[spare fractal]

what blessings and perks for greatsword?

[torpid void]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ebacfec-9eb8-4f84-b139-4e3cca58dcfb/bubble-knight-melee-havoc-40

[marble crater]

Possible there is one in the pins, some Gunker variant maybe

[left hare]

Is rending or crit better on psyker flame

If i were to stimpack a psyker

Which stat would u want more

[marble crater]

Crit I guess

Red stim is best for psyker though, they will be very happy to get that

[sturdy reef]

hive scum looks hype

I was wrong

very nice FS

that reveal trailer was still ass

[marble crater]

We should pretend there was no trailer

[left hare]

I mean the stimpack can feed the psyker dmg and crit buffs

[torpid void]

I checked the pinned guide and I was not able to figure out what would be a meme speed pskyer build. My brain is too smooth.

[left hare]

So yea they do love red

But if i personal stim wonder which is the best

Since its a cd skill

[sturdy reef]

Im prob gonna do a stimm build first since that looks interesting

[polar flower]

1/200 Poxbombers should do no damage but run at 5x their normal speed

[marble crater]

What's the point if they deal no damage?

Make it more damage and more speed

[sturdy reef]

stimmpack prob the weakest keystone based on a skimm

[lone ravine]

5 times the knockback though

[sturdy reef]

but we'll see, the playtest build had it much stronger, like 25% base dmg for toxin'd enemies instead of the 15% it currently is

[lone ravine]

send rejects flying across the map on explosion

[polar flower]

To scare the shit out of you

Cloaker style

[marble crater]

But if the faster ones deal no damage you can just ignore them

[polar flower]

When you're in the middle of a fight and you hear that beeping getting faster, you're definitely jumping

[deft stump]

Less damage, more knockback.

[wind spruce]

Uncanny riposte meta on shivs has already arrived. Can't wait for this fresh and new experience.

[royal totem]

Lmao

[sturdy reef]

the more things change, the more they stay the same

[royal totem]

Aesthetically i like the crowbar

[sturdy reef]

bonesaw looks fun

[royal totem]

I like blunt weps

The thunk reminds me of the Heat Signature thunk

[deft stump]

So same old knoife stuff?

Does this mean I can run uncanny bleed?

[verbal thistle]

"no"

https://tenor.com/view/you-shall-not-pass-lotr-do-not-enter-not-allowed-scream-gif-16729885

the 1 crusher that stops my kiting path

[wind spruce]

Mightve survived if not for the bayonet poke

[verbal thistle]

I just got punched by crusher

[wind spruce]

You take two hits

You can see your toughness drop before you die

[verbal thistle]

yeah

probably plasma or shotgunner

this seed has alot

I got the kite pathing for the beginning here

besides that one moment

Solo play needs to stop crashing on havoc

[wind spruce]

Yeah the other day I was crashing every time I died

And everytime I exited a havoc psykhanium too

Lel

[verbal thistle]

smooch

[cosmic sigil]

Happened to me twice today and not because I wanted to ragequit

[wind spruce]

I was specifically talking about with the solo mod but yeah, boo

[cosmic sigil]

also since when trapper netting you while invisible is still a thing?

[wind spruce]

I'm assuming if it's mid-fire when you stealth it still goes off and you can still get hit by a net targeted at another player?

[cosmic sigil]

The other player was netted, I was running to the rescue and did not see the trapper behind me. Yeah he must have targeted me before.

[wind spruce]

If you stealth exactly as you stop sprinting to revive it do be happening

[torpid void]

I could use some help, I am trying to find a meme speed psyker build, but I was not able to find one in the pinned commnets.

[modest perch]

dmg dumped knife with stam and sprint efficiency all stam curios with regen/sprint mettle scriers with warp speed

shredder with cavalcade and crit chance

like if u just wanted to go all in on becoming the swift one

[wind spruce]

You don't need to meme or get advice. Just go down the right side of the tree and pick all the movement nodes. Then equip a high mobility weapon. You can figure it out dude.

[prime elk]

muties can grab you too while stealthed

stealth on vet is ultracucked mode

[lone ravine]

Stealth on vet just needs made into new ability tbh

[wind spruce]

On vet and zealot*

People posting builds in hive scum chat before they have access

[deft stump]

Theoretical builds?

After all, the full tree is released.

[wind spruce]

It's just the way some people frame it as "I think this is pretty optimal" like bruh we don't even know how the mechanics interact fully yet, especially as they reworked a bunch of things like 12 hours before the embargo lifted

[deft stump]

Well, just gotta wait anyway for it.

[broken carbon]

it’s like the only thing darktide related to talk about

let people have fun

[cosmic cobalt]

the worst part of the update is all the broken mod

[wind spruce]

Yeah so discuss the talents

No one wants to look at your gameslantern link

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mad-gif-20172125

[royal totem]

Wut?

[wind spruce]

Smealot scum and fartbites get this pathing why doesn’t psyker 🙁

What the actual FUCK

This is goddamn heresy

They straight up gave them a better EE

[royal totem]

so ?

[wind spruce]

So I'm performatively angry? Seems obvious

[royal totem]

ah.

[wind spruce]

Psyker will always be bestest and other classes should NOT get superior toys

[royal totem]

lmao ok

[wind spruce]

[prime elk]

What HIV will do to zealot

yes yes i know they don't fulfill the exact same roles

[royal totem]

kinda similar in a way i guess though. zealot+hive scum+psyker+vet or something would probs be fine though

[deft stump]

Dumpster both Vet and Zealot.

[prime elk]

Based on the gameplay I don’t think vets going to be impacted much tbh

[deft stump]

Depends, expecting more ammo gobbo wars now.

[nimble burrow]

gaze upon my incomparable mind! -falls into that gap between carts on the train mission for the fifth time-

[icy tusk]

Is anyone down to help with the cliffhanger penance?

[potent echo]

Hives

[wind spruce]

In b4 what scum actually invalidates is gunker

Right side aura for scum is same as psyker... fatshark subtly showing their hate for melee/gunker

[deft stump]

And only Oggy and Arby are fine cos they are both block focused bulk types.

[quartz flare]

Psykers really got the short end of the tree rework😢

[zealous wing]

only if they can do decent monster damage (not counting blitz) and even then they have no assail or bigly sword

[deft stump]

But big crowbar?

[zealous wing]

i suspect big crowbar not as much reach as big fucking greatsword

main thing will be how it feels beating crushers up with

clip of the double shiv looks just.... mega sad to play

animation wise at least

[white sky]

The double knife heavy melee looks so bad imo

The i think second attack in chain where you like lay your hands over eachother and stab forward

[zealous wing]

looks ass, both of them

the lights also look dumb but not AS bad

because, they're quick and dont matter much

[cedar delta]

hi all, whats the meta build for psyker right now?

[white sky]

There's a few ime

[zealous wing]

depends what youre playing, and what role youre filling

[white sky]

You like melee? Staves?

[zealous wing]

inferno shriek is the high havoc meta stave build if you know how to stack uncanny with a force sword with the flames

[white sky]

Rn i think the winner for me is crowbar

[zealous wing]

but then for melee theres also bubbleknight , surge surge maybe not meta but it helps you fill the role of elite/specialist killer while the inferno focuses on the masses/armour blobs

[cedar delta]

i liek doing big dps =)

[zealous wing]

DPS to what

if youre fine killing everything but monsters and captains, inferno, but, it does take practice to use well

and again, you need a force weapon with uncanny on it or youre just the designated trash clearer

(and know how to use it)

check the pins for the build list

if you want to do monster /captain damage, go with a meleeker/ gunker build

[royal totem]

inferno has a high skill ceiling

you'll see some players with it be doing nothing while you see like Chaos just making everything disappear

i will also note like a "good" build is what suits you most

like sure, inferno is really good but if it doesn't suit you and such then well... you probs won't be great with it. while like gunker might suit you if you're used to slower but strong weapons etc etc. saying you like doing big dps doesn't really help much

[potent echo]

Isn't inferno really easy to use

[plucky flax]

Ye dunno how the average psykers in havoc do so low damage with it

[cedar delta]

got it, looks like inferno shield is meta

[plucky flax]

Bubble or shriek

Shriek a lot more damage

[zealous wing]

inferno bubble would only be meta because people dont know how to stay together, because thats the main use case of bubble

kinda sad people would rather have 6 seconds of bulletproof bubble, than everything thats trying to kill them be dead

[cedar delta]

okie, ill try shriek

[sturdy reef]

melee psyker

[sturdy reef]

tzeentchian scheme

[plucky flax]

Real

[summer prairie]

Agent did you hear Rotten is even worse now

[zealous wing]

not for inferno, just everyone else

uncanny inferno is now even more a requirement

[sturdy reef]

reject inferno

embrace DD melee psyker

[zealous wing]

i do, it does not enough to rot

[sturdy reef]

embrace it harder

[plucky flax]

I heard something about itd reduce melee damage too?

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

I played stim and red yesterday. Blue stimmed red rager with pox gas buff is very fun

[summer prairie]

rotten blue stimmed rager when your melee also does no damage

but they nerfed some stimms though

blue stim is no longer stagger immune and less dr

[sturdy reef]

stim and red is rough

[plucky flax]

Im on holiday in December anyway. Will play when im free on laptop. Back home on 26th dec

[sturdy reef]

blue bulwark is shit tho\

[plucky flax]

So ill experience scummer late

Karien can carry me on low ping

No excuse for her now apart from me being heavy

[summer prairie]

I'll be in Thailand in January but I'm not crazy enough to be playing DT while there

[zealous wing]

they're also changing what stims to what

[plucky flax]

There's always down time during travel so I bring my laptop with me anyway just for entertainment

[zealous wing]

i think red is stagger immune now, blue still DR, but not certain

well not NOW ( i think), but, update

[sturdy reef]

red always was stagger immune

[zealous wing]

crowd control immune then, or something

something about blue meant it couldnt be pushed to be interrupted

ie, blue crusher = dodge check

[sturdy reef]

red is CC and suppression immune

just try chorusing a red enemy

doesnt work

[deft stump]

I can't carry!

[languid pine]

all my fucking havoc teammates are ass

😭

how the fuck do you die 3 minutes into the run

[zealous wing]

not rage, red stims

[sturdy reef]

Oh

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[zealous wing]

breaking coherency, usually

stepping somewhere slightly wrong can also bring hell upon ye

[potent echo]

i see smykers in red havocs

[zealous wing]

ah its more fun that i thought

[summer prairie]

0.5s stam regen delay, 2 stamina per second (zealot is 0.75s, 1.5)

10% base crit chance

[zealous wing]

the good news, the previews kinda suck imo for 5/6 of the hive scum voices so i will only have one main

ill be going fem outlaw it seems

which, good change of pace, all my other characters are male

penance cosmetics also look good

[wind spruce]

Psyker is 0.5s too right?

[summer prairie]

psyker and arb

[zealous wing]

sadly though i have a feeling theres gonna be a LOT of fem outlaws, so if im unlucky i wont get to hear too much banter

[wind spruce]

Sick, that's the hardest thing for me to get used to when I swap classes

[summer prairie]

but psyker is 1 stamina per second

[wind spruce]

2 stam seems nuts

Quick af

[summer prairie]

then there's that +10% stamina on dodge, which just generates infinite stamina with ranged dodging, especially with Desperado or Vulture's Dodge

[wind spruce]

Plus cole reckons these three are borderline mandatory so very good uptime on 20% DR

[plucky flax]

Zealot but with more cracks.

[wind spruce]

Then if you run rampage and chem dependency you'll have a solid ~50% real T/DR most of the time

[zealous wing]

zealot but even more homeless

[cosmic sigil]

So psyker but on warp unbound 24/7

[zealous wing]

not even a joke #hivescum-class message

ignore the +

classic fatshark

literally dont need ammo pickups

civi mael magdump class legitimately

its so fuckin broken but im gonna have so much fun with the shenanigans because these crackheads are just that

[plucky flax]

Me when solo clutching and the arby dropped this

Then ragequitted. Xd

[zealous wing]

lmao

[plucky flax]

Another name on the blocklist. 2 ragequitters this morning already.

[zealous wing]

name lowkey looks familiar

[marble crater]

Noob Xbox player

[zealous wing]

what was this on, havoc ?

[plucky flax]

Yeah h40

[wind spruce]

I forgot to add this picture to this message

[plucky flax]

EU players are unhinged today.

[summer prairie]

What was he playing

[plucky flax]

Arby

He played shockmine into red stim.

[summer prairie]

oh that's what you said

[plucky flax]

So not sure if it's best idea.

That was his 2nd death as well. he got trapped or something and died first time then mass ping his trapped location but no chance to rescue.

[summer prairie]

did he type that after you failed to clutch or while clutching

[plucky flax]

As soon as he went down he typed that. I was with the downed ogryn so I was trying to save the ogryn rather than him who was quite a bit far away.

Red + stim turn people's brains off they d ont know what to do against uber cc immune guys.

[summer prairie]

no more knife with purga?

[plucky flax]

Only for this. Red reaper too scary

I get 1 shot

No dodge counter

my numeric ui brokenm

[summer prairie]

try f4

[zealous wing]

but theres a dodge counter in base game now

[wraith sphinx]

what is blud even saying

"you should ov res me" what does ov mean here

should of?

[marble crater]

Probably, which is also wrong

[zealous wing]

should've asked nicer

[zealous wing]

if you want it on in basegame do this

[potent echo]

I saw someone play knife purga real build?

Although they tended to give up on purga really fast and just go knifing

[zealous wing]

agent used knife purg, depends tho when to knife to move and when to burn

[hidden current]

i think i rolled one extra percent on stats

[zealous wing]

one of those lies and is a 79.5

[hidden current]

well, i guess i'll have something at 79.5 then

[zealous wing]

difference too minimal to really matter, yeah xD

[hidden current]

i'd like rather flex and "lie" that warp gave me one extra %

In warp we trust

[plucky flax]

I prefer the numeric ui counter to the game's

[tulip kettle]

my dodges also dissapeared recently from numeric UI, just toggle it off and on it mod options to fix

[plucky flax]

Wombo combo on syllo

[wraith sphinx]

I play it sometimes

Good for faster repositioning

[plucky flax]

As long as you get uncanny melee it'll be good. Knife ds4 or force sword is just preference.

[quartz barn]

the NET!! notif

[jovial juniper]

One serving of Burster coming right up

🗣️

[wraith sphinx]

Thank you for the gratifying eruption higui

[feral needle]

When I buy from Brunts Armory I buy the Greatsword but I cant get MK VI. I only get MK VIII. Tried 11 times and all of them where VIII anyone know why?

[marble crater]

Because you need to change the mark of the weapon in your inventory

[feral needle]

Ah so it doesnt matter? I can just swap?

[marble crater]

The game does a poor job of explaining the crafting and weapon system

Yea

[glad forge]

hi, i need a little help. i have hit a wall. im level 21 doing heresy and i don't feel effective. im going down a lot. does anyone know what skills i should use

[wraith sphinx]

what are you using currently?

[marble crater]

[deft stump]

Is like, if you weren't there to read the patch notes... Well, you don't need the info.

[dull scroll]

before it was just my pref, but after knowing the uncanny forceword push tech, that weapon is now undisputed for inferno/shriek 😌

[weary idol]

clearly

[deft stump]

Just FS, you know.

[deft stump]

Dodge and throw shards till 30 and staff of choice hits mastery lvl 19.

Psyker feels awful till bare min 26 personally and you need a maxed staff for them to feel good.

[fiery stratus]

The leveling process for almost every character feels pretty terrible tbh

[summer prairie]

This psyker is built different, heavy laspistol + ds build

[wraith sphinx]

and martyrdom

🧎‍♂️

[deft stump]

Yeah, but some are more... playable than others before 30.

And no, I'm considering avg skill lvl, not Ainz lvl 1 greys only lvl.

[zealous wing]

i will say, lvl 1 psyker not great but as soon as you can get a stronger BB or assail (lvl4) and get a decent weapon (even deimos), it feels a lot more like youre participating

auric with lvl1 psyker, all you can do is survive, but lvl 4, you can actually at least be on specialist/elite BB duty or horde clear assist with assail/obscurus (if you get the mastery unlocked for obscurus) and you do surprisingly ok.

granted, this is coming from a psyker main who knows how it works already, but psyker is surprisingly able very early.

i'd need to run similar tests with the other classes to make a better comparison for "who's most effective the earliest"

long winded way to say i agree with karien

brain is not all here

[deft stump]

Doesn't work that well if you know stuff though if trying to consider a newbie's perspective.

Where even deciding when to do stuff might not come to them or taking advantage of things happening.

Or ehm, abusing AI and mechanics.

[zealous wing]

what i mean to say is once you have a proper blitz you can rely on it

(not smite)

[deft stump]

True, but yeah, vet sucks more unless you get lucky.

Cos heavily weapon reliant.

[zealous wing]

if you go BB, you can reliably one shot a lot of things and deal serious damage, if you go assail you can rely on it to help you clear hordes or stagger ragers

[deft stump]

And forever till Iron Will and 60 sec 'nade regen.

[royal totem]

Lul vet with no nade regen

Or good gun

[deft stump]

Shovel knight Vet.

I did that for quite some time.

Cos game gave me only Inflas till like lvl 17.

[royal totem]

I guess while leveling yeah

[deft stump]

And I hated that gun to hell.

[fiery stratus]

Eh, honestly if you take away the tank aspect most of them are still annoying to level, very sluggish feeling with bad weapons

Tying mobility to your weapon so mobility feels horrible without good weapons was a bad idea

[deft stump]

Arby was easier though.

[fiery stratus]

Arby is brainless and was broken on release, but still sluggish feeling

[deft stump]

Even now, still easier than vet imo.

[fiery stratus]

Most likely, arbitrator is the controller players class to compensate for all the free hits the enemies get

[deft stump]

To be fair, that's just the players.

[fiery stratus]

True, but arbitrator can also take an insane amount of damage most of the others cant, so its big crutch mode

Playing arbitrator as a main then switching to another class i would bet kneecaps most people because arbitrator makes bad habits

[zealous wing]

its actually still really easy to die as an arby

[deft stump]

Playing arby as another class main is hilarious though.

[zealous wing]

the lack of mobility does feed that ease

[fiery stratus]

Easy to die on the tankiest class lol

[deft stump]

Especially old vet main.

[fiery stratus]

Just always have something to melee

[deft stump]

Gunner swarm and 5 reapers say hi.

[fiery stratus]

Slide spamming says hello

[deft stump]

Shieldbroken in seconds.

[deft stump]

No stamina.

[zealous wing]

less than

[fiery stratus]

Dying to open fire kills every class

[zealous wing]

not psykers

EE says hello

[weary idol]

veteran also lives those

[zealous wing]

not hivegangers either, soon

[weary idol]

exe stance baby

[deft stump]

Depends on number of stam and how dumb memes you went.

[zealous wing]

hivegangers get EE but for melee too

[deft stump]

Barrel fire?

I die in 3 ticks.

[fiery stratus]

Open gunfire

[deft stump]

Lag is fun.

[fiery stratus]

Idk how thats any different from the other classes though, aside from maybe ogryn lol

[deft stump]

No. Oggy is the same.

[fiery stratus]

Arbitrator literally has a cheese talent where you can only take maximum 50 damage

[deft stump]

4 ticks at best.

[fiery stratus]

Per hit

[deft stump]

Barrel fire scary.

[zealous wing]

per HIT

a single bullet is a hit

[deft stump]

Especially when you have 300+ ping.

[fiery stratus]

Arbitrator being able to ear overheads make it the tankiest by far

Eat*

[deft stump]

Oggy says hello.

[zealous wing]

he can eat multiple, psyker can eat one

[fiery stratus]

Arbitrator can be even dumber because you can get health curios and really abuse that talent

[zealous wing]

why tho

[deft stump]

Slab presses special.

[zealous wing]

toughness would be better

[fiery stratus]

Im talking from the controller players perspective

Ive seen it before

[wraith sphinx]

guys does enfeeble subnode boost the dot from charged strike subnode

[deft stump]

I LITERALLY play on controller.

[wraith sphinx]

I forgot

[fiery stratus]

Issue number 1

Don't

[zealous wing]

no i dont think it does

[deft stump]

With a half dead dodge button.

From Zealoting.

And Vetting.

Because knoife.

[deft stump]

Is like you are offering to buy ppl PCs or not iffy keyboards or something.

And yes, a controller is cheaper than a keyboard. I just pull phone for serious typing.

I'm just tired of ghost letters. As in, you type stuff but letters don't show up.

[fiery stratus]

I switched from controller about 2 years ago, used to only play controller exclusively

I wasn't playing tide games at the time

[deft stump]

I play shooters with it.

[fiery stratus]

Shooters are better on mouse because you have full range of motion

[deft stump]

Though I like shotguns for a reason.

Aim in general direction usually works.

[fiery stratus]

Trial by fire is the only way for things, if people shortcut it just causes bad habits

[deft stump]

You play also with like a quarter of a small mousepad space.

Well, old standard size mousepad.

The old time freebie ones.

It's 7 to 9 flicks to spin one round.

[shut cobalt]

Hey guys, please tell me i'm p[laying Psyker wrong cause it's the squishiest out of all the classes for me and i'm practiicaly losing my shit now lol

[fiery stratus]

I play with high enough dpi that I can turn my mouse slightly left or right and be able to turn my camera 360 degrees

[deft stump]

That just makes me sick.

[shut cobalt]

Like, why is it so goddang squishy

WHY

[fiery stratus]

My camera doesn't go that fast unless im play knife tbh

[deft stump]

And with my already jittery 24-70 fps.

[shut cobalt]

All my other characters, even lesser geared ones are all at auric alreaady farming, and this guy canb't get past damnation to save his life

[deft stump]

Extra sick.

[shut cobalt]

Pls tell me i'm doing it wrong so i can see wtf to do ;-;

[fiery stratus]

A large majority of psyker toughness relies on generating and quelling peril

[royal totem]

so you're probably playing psyker wrong. but it's possible you haven't reached the skill floor for it

[fiery stratus]

Get used to doing that a lot

[deft stump]

2 toughness, 1 hp?

[shut cobalt]

ya

[royal totem]

without any info on how your build is, it's hard to help you though

or playing with you

[deft stump]

Then IDK, I meme +9 stam.

[shut cobalt]

i'm new to t his discord so i dunno what / how to share what i'm running

[deft stump]

I assume you take one with the warp?

[shut cobalt]

i'll have to go look, middle of the mission and they won't let me chceck mid-mission even though ii'm down and waiting for half of it ;-;

[royal totem]

Suggest gameslantern link for build and for everything else just type and explain

[shut cobalt]

oh nvm they all diieded

[fiery stratus]

Psyker isn't like the other classes where it can constantly regenerate reliable toughness through combat only, gotta use that peril a ton

[shut cobalt]

I mean my peril is almost always high cause of the scrier thingie

[wraith sphinx]

Scrier can mitigate that a lot if you keep it going

[shut cobalt]

and i'm getting used to the 'not overdoing it when it hits 100' , and the damage is good, yes, but the survivability is like a wet paper towel

[fiery stratus]

Tru, but even still gotta be using that peril

[royal totem]

Hard to know again without seeing ur build or how you play etc

[fiery stratus]

Push a lot

You literally want to avoid hits at all cost

[shut cobalt]

i'm working on doing the gameslantern rn @royal totem gemme a minute

[deft stump]

I knoife main. I literally zone when I play to avoid feeling too sick. Though with the FPS jumping due to poor optimisations, it's just delaying it.

And no, DLSS makes it worse. 7-90 but at the cost of oggy booms sending my fps to 0.2 fps at best.

[mighty cipher]

Is ranged weapons hitting twice in the psykarnium a vanilla Bug or modded bug?

[royal totem]

errr which ranged weapon? if it's all it sounds like a modded bug?

i'll hop on to check if mine does

[weary idol]

I have never heard of this before

[mighty cipher]

All of them

[royal totem]

ok that sounds like a mod bug

[shut cobalt]

@royal totem
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0796f0b-0347-4b56-859a-5fbe96af607d/psykertest-2

[mighty cipher]

Look at the headhunter stacks

[royal totem]

ok so 1. first conclusion is you haven't reached the skill floor for the greatsword

[shut cobalt]

ok you're gonna have to english with me

skill floor?

sorry, i'm relatively new to this

[weary idol]

why is your disrupt destiny like that

[royal totem]

ur build

has no damage reduction

which does not help with the "paper armor" feeling

[shut cobalt]

i just clicked stuff that maake sense to me playing before i look up a video lol

worked for my other 3 characters inn auric, doesn't work on psyker

[royal totem]

the minimum skill required to use a weapon or a class well

[shut cobalt]

like,m at all

You got a minute for VC? i'm sure i'm missing something lol

[royal totem]

yes

i do

[shut cobalt]

striketeam... 5?

[plucky flax]

Strike deez.

[mighty cipher]

Also my bolt pistol does this in the psykarnium. So it's defenitely not just on hit effects.

[fiery stratus]

Looks like one is the total dps

Might be numeric ui

[mighty cipher]

Don’t have it

My only guess is creature spawner

I unpatched my mods and everything works properly again

[fiery stratus]

Its not hitting twice, its just count the dps and counting the last hit

Counting*

[mighty cipher]

It’s definitely hitting twice. In a real game the bolt pistol doesn’t onetap BODY both gunner variants

[fiery stratus]

Who knows

[deft stump]

It might be able to if you crit and minmax all damage possible on certain classes. But pretty sure that's not it.

[fiery stratus]

The flak shotgunner only got one number and it died to puncture, the mauler also only got one number, pretty sure its just counting the dps

[deft stump]

You don't have One with the warp nor Just a Dream. EE and more dodge requires better skill lvl to not screw up imo. Laspistol also requires you to always be hitting heads to make it worthwhile.

[mighty cipher]

No buffs. Just straight zealot zealotry.

[cosmic sigil]

This is my fgs laspistol build

[mighty cipher]

Creature spawner wasn’t responsible. I deactivated it and the double hit issue persisted

[cosmic sigil]

If i don't use laspistol i change ee for immaterial

[crude cape]

someone throw me the best melee psyker tree for force greatsword

[lone ravine]

What other mods you got

[mighty cipher]

Very small list.

[cosmic sigil]

Mine is quite good and has a balance of offensive and defensive talent

[crude cape]

link or pic?

[crude cape]

this?

[cosmic sigil]

Yes

Laspistol + fgs / fs

[lone ravine]

The only other thing I think it could be is the master item patch for EWC

[cosmic sigil]

You can change EE for another talent if you're not using laspistol or recon

[zealous wing]

@shut cobalt

[crude cape]

why no Anticipaction? isnt it good on melee psyker w/ fgs?

[deft stump]

From memory, you don't crit enough for it.

[crude cape]

crit?

[deft stump]

Wait, is not EE.

Fark.

[crude cape]

should have pretty good crit chance tbh

with skriers

[deft stump]

Brain fog atm much.

I think is just not enough points.

[marble crater]

smh

[royal totem]

kark

[deft stump]

Fine, Kark.

[crude cape]

like is malefic momentum worth it with no buffs to assail? will the uptime in auric or havoc be enough?

i feel like anticipation is a must have perk to keep up mobility in higher difficulties with a fgs

but maybe im wrong

[deft stump]

You get stacks if it kills even poxxers.

If it's that one.

[crude cape]

also i feel like i would want prescience > seer's presence due to being mostly melee focused + burn blessing on laspistol

ill try it both ways just my instincts looking at it

i havent tried the new psyker tree yet coming back from a break so i need to give it some playtesting

[deft stump]

That's to increase gaze uptime.

[crude cape]

true gaze uptime is good

[deft stump]

Or well, lower the downtime

[crude cape]

how good is "just a dream"?

arent i sitting at high peril often due to skriers?

[marble crater]

It's very good, but some people don't like it because of the peril gain outside of their control

[crude cape]

thats one thing im thinking, the other is im sitting high peril for buffs and in skriers anyway so how often is it up

ill try it both ways

thanks for advice

new tree is crazy ngl

[lone ravine]

Yea I hate it on staff psyker I played one game with it and

[deft stump]

It's also bugged atm and will always drop you to 97% peril if above if you get hit.

So if you are skilled, it means you have budget warp unbound.

[crude cape]

what blessings are you guys rocking on fgs?

[lone ravine]

Does this mean it can save you from suicide bombing?

[crude cape]

i used to run reposte + unstable power

crit is gud

but is that still ideal?

[deft stump]

No. Why it's budget.

If you are careful, you can basically throw, get shot, throw, get shot, throw.

Though they might fix it, so might not be a good idea to get used to it.

[cosmic sigil]

honestly, the fgs is a bad mobility weapon. With that talent you're not making it a duelling sword. It would be mediocre at best. So that point is better spent elsewhere, in more dmg, tdr or dr.

[deft stump]

Is why I said, no points for it.

Better spent elsewhere.

[cosmic sigil]

Better learn to time and spend your dodge correctly. And block everything else with KD.

Yup

[cosmic sigil]

Well ideally you want to spend as much time as possible in gaze with high peril but below 97 until you're close to 10s so that you can go warp unbound and when it's finished just gaze again.

[candid temple]

i always take it, can't live without.

[crude cape]

ya i feel its good too but i get the counter argument

ill try both ways

also - is this still possible??

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rxn3wGdbdyI

cause my god

[cosmic sigil]

Yes

[deft stump]

Totally, works with assail as well.

Throw shards, switch to puncture bistol while they are flying.

Why you totally can do FGS, Assail, Bistol bleed memes.

[cosmic sigil]

Nah it's been patched for assail iirc

[deft stump]

If it is, it's a silent patch somewhere after the Bound by Duty patch.

Cos it was still working then.

[cosmic sigil]

You sure? I remember that interaction patched months ago

Well knowing fs it may have been unpatched since

[strong gulch]

https://discord.gg/C9DFsmA9

[deft stump]

I assume is just FS. They can push a fix that breaks an old fix all the time.

[marble crater]

Hi

[strong gulch]

Hi

[deft stump]

@strong gulch Beans, can you test the assail bistol thing quickly?

[distant tulip]

does anyone know if you can get the "not even close" penance using kinetic flayer?

[marble crater]

Maybe if I knew which penance that is

[distant tulip]

kill a pouncing poxhound with brain burst

[marble crater]

Ah, no idea. Did that before KF was good and viable

It's possible, because KF counts for other penances

[wraith sphinx]

just explode dogs with your mind, you'll get it eventually

[wind spruce]

Just kill dogs with brain burst. Don't try to time it. Just kill them. You'll get it within a mission or two, especially if you're on a hounds modifier.

[distant tulip]

I just tried kinetic flayer, it doesn't look like it counts towards the prioritize targets penance

I'm guessing it wont work for the other penances either

[strong gulch]

==================================================================================

[marble crater]

Yes

[marble crater]

Why are they not sorted alphabetically?

[ripe obsidian]

Based on a few videos I have seen, this new class looks kinda borked

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1p9o5cf/ammo_capacity_reload_times_what_are_you_talking/

[marble crater]

What does borked mean in this context

[ripe obsidian]

Too strong.

[marble crater]

People will review bomb the game again when it gets inadvertently nerfed

[fiery stratus]

people will review bomb the game regardless tbh

literally any update that a handful of people don't like and they'll review bomb it

[ripe obsidian]

This class gives me the vibe that Fatshark wanted to create another ammoless class, but with guns

I'm interested to see a Hive Scum run the Boltgun with unlimited ammo. What fun. What joy.

[summer prairie]

The 20% ammo talent needs to proc only on melee elite kills or have a decent cooldown

[weary crane]

Idek what's going on with darktide, sometimes my gameplay is buttery smooth but today the performance is just awful

[marble crater]

Can't wait for people to flame scum for taking ammo

[ripe obsidian]

Well, that's part of it. Desperado + the cooldown stim has basically 100% uptime

[summer prairie]

well that's whatever since you've to sacrifice more than one node for it

[ripe obsidian]

Do you?

[weary crane]

The middle ability can have full uptime too

[ripe obsidian]

Unsurprising

[deft stump]

I just tried, still working.

[summer prairie]

But you can't have full uptime since they aren't on cooldown while they are active

[deft stump]

I'm on controller so swapping is a nightmare so no (25 tick) damage for me, lul.

[ripe obsidian]

My initial impression is that Scum will need some significant nerfs, but at the same time 90% of players will die 8x per match

[deft stump]

I think you mean 20x. Cos uhhh... I saw arbys kissing the floor on release already.

[summer prairie]

It's not going to be a top dps class and is harder to play

and doesn't add anything essential to the team, maybe the stimm supply

[sturdy reef]

I dont think its nerf worthy

[ripe obsidian]

The DPS looks pretty significant

[sturdy reef]

maybe with overkill shenanigans

[weary idol]

yeah but who doesn't need nerfs at this point

[summer prairie]

I think hyper violence will be hard to use effectively

[royal totem]

I think high skill floor to be effective

So probs fine

[summer prairie]

It's 1s uptime, seems too situational. Like farming overkill from horde with heavies just to later hit some elites or a boss doesn't sound good

[sturdy reef]

its going to be very inconsistent

[cosmic sigil]

MFG

[cosmic sigil]

It's perfect for psykhanium warriors!

[weary idol]

mixed hordes contain both poxwalkers and healthy enemies

[summer prairie]

it could end up being a decent +% damage overall for melee still, just not broken

[brazen warren]

I am looking forward to having attack speed though

[summer prairie]

if you are hitting poxwalkers instead of elites just to farm later damage, you are already losing damage

[weary idol]

many weapons feature quick strikedown lights in their chains that would sufficiently overkill a poxwalker

and threaten an elite enemies life

also on a more practical term it means that in long drawn out hordes you are steadily overkilling enemies you hit by that little bit more and more and your damage is snowballing to the point where you will one shot anything that gets near you

[brazen warren]

also, lots of stamina means more block pushes

[summer prairie]

Are you though, like you can miss a headshot and not sure how it interacts with cleave, like if your cleave kills a poxwalker but doesn't do enough damage, you also lose it

[quasi citrus]

Hey people I'm just making a psyker for the first time, anyone know what perk it is that allows you to go up to 100% Peril without exploding?

[weary idol]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Unbound, part of Scrier's Gaze.

[quasi citrus]

You are a beauty thank you fella

[strong gulch]

25 25

[mighty delta]

swag 1 mill dmg game (auric maelstrom)

Melee psyker my beloved

[quiet inlet]

good ol fyker

[dull scroll]

holy first time seeing 800 damage taken on psyker and still made it to the end, that's the real achievement

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-funny-sunglasses-cool-awesome-gif-12569386687739933832

[void perch]

you should see my gameplay

nobody will ever take more damage than i do...

[strong gulch]

Feck off

[zealous wing]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-the-sun-hate-the-heat-shoot-the-sun-tired-of-it-heat-wave-gif-12116680

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-my-eyes-it-burns-gif-5848866

lmao

[mighty delta]

its more impressive that i got silent dive bombed by poxbursters thrice and yet that didnt do me in

(my only death was from a trapper during the bossfight where the game also decided to spawn a regular chaos spawn, 3+ trappers, hordes of shotgunners as well as snipers and bombers)

[dull scroll]

blessed by the Emperor 😌

[quartz barn]

i get on and the first thing i see lmao

[ripe obsidian]

I had a stroke reading that

[white sky]

Tbf

They're speaking the truth lmfao

[marble crater]

You need Rollläden

[wraith sphinx]

I have a solution for this

[marble crater]

No

[verbal thistle]

Not with staffs anymore

With gaze getting a buff plus other buffs like warp unbound

Indirectly buffed strike

Haven't seen that

You sure it wasn't a surge proc?

2 shots with a crit

I can look into it, but to my knowledge quell cancel isn't doing what it used to

Strike is still very Strong

It's still a staff on the strongest class

Did you ask them?

Okay, well yeah. I can look into it

[summer prairie]

Might just be macro swapping and shooting once between charges

[deft stump]

My Karking God?

[marble crater]

There is no F in Karking

[wind spruce]

I like the combo of "going out of their way" and "calling it a day" as though those don't generally indicate opposite amounts of effort

[marble crater]

Is that what it says?

[wraith sphinx]

The psyker whisperer has spoken

[marble crater]

It looks like they spelled ibuprofen wrong

[twin topaz]

Does celerity affect any of the psykers blitz btw?

[lone ravine]

It affects the charge time / throw speed of them

[marble crater]

All of them

[rugged jolt]

guys is kinetic flayer worth it as of now, or nah?

[lone ravine]

Yea

[marble crater]

Yes, very good

[summer prairie]

Always take it with bb

[rugged jolt]

i hear it used to be really bad and hated on, but don't know what's up with it currently

[marble crater]

It was bad because it was able to proc on any enemy, now it procs only on elites and specials

They also changed the random chance every 15 seconds to 100% chance every 12 seconds

[rugged jolt]

and i'm assuming kinetic ressonance is quite decent also? sounds fine on paper

[twin topaz]

I never took the other augment personally

Kinetic Flayer not counting towards brain burst penance is low-key evil

[marble crater]

No, only if you want to build a meme brain burst build

[dull scroll]

VERY good ONLY if you are good at using brainburst all the time

[rugged jolt]

what's your personal take on it? cause on paper, hitting your ability and popping many elites with fast BB's sounds not bad

[marble crater]

I take Brain Burst for Kinetic Flayer, not because I want to use Brain Burst

[rugged jolt]

lol

[royal totem]

Lets me get rid of annoying ass snipers or such my team refuses to hit

[twin topaz]

I feel like that's the majority case

[dull scroll]

but no, that thing is not a meme, I spec it all the time and another guy here who duo'd a 40 in the past used it for that as well

[wraith sphinx]

Ngl I only ran kinetic resonance for malleus monstronum lol

And EP

[twin topaz]

Oh also, are enemies affected by smite count as staggered?

[quartz barn]

teammates purg

im fucked

[deft stump]

Dun care.

[cosmic sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076246644749766687/1333114351086731395/uncaption.gif

[ancient plover]

no scryers assail build out there?

[strong gulch]

Assail with shriek and DD or EP

Take bistol and FGS

[ancient plover]

EP

I remember going scryers with full assail was kinda decent

not sure how it is for super high havoc but it was great in aurics

but again my 12 skilltrees are gone since everytime they rework something everything gets nuked

[strong gulch]

check pins for builds

[ancient plover]

theres no assail build in there sadly

[strong gulch]

yes there is

[ancient plover]

meaning its either irrelevant or ppl just dont like to play it

[strong gulch]

it's the first one

[ancient plover]

first one for me is assail venting shriek

[strong gulch]

Yeah
that assail and no scirers

[ancient plover]

I want scriers^^

Best ability ever designed in this game

[strong gulch]

Oh. There's assail + SG in the melee section.

Assail generally goes with right side tree which is gun and melee.

[plucky flax]

Its good in high havoc too although I only take the base assails

[ancient plover]

https://i.imgur.com/JbW3qxc.png

is this also for voidstrike rmb charge?

or only the fast one

[lone ravine]

primary attack is just the tiny orbs

[ancient plover]

ah rip then

trying to recreate my old skill tree is so scuffed since they moved so much

now it looks like a monstrosity

https://i.imgur.com/KDSxMhS.png
https://i.imgur.com/dIcBIV9.png

[royal totem]

@strong gulch are you going to play later?

[strong gulch]

idk. my head feels bad

[royal totem]

ah i see :/ well i hope you rest well or such then

[ancient plover]

https://i.imgur.com/bWZHzoB.png

man they really fcked psyker

why is this so expensive to obtain now

they just scrambled all the skill points

[royal totem]

wut? like it's literally not expensive to

[ancient plover]

well I am on the right side

with crits giving you dodge

before the tree rework I could have both

[marble crater]

Psyker is stronger than ever, yeah they really fucked us, poor us

[ancient plover]

I am talking about the skill tree positions

not about the balance

[marble crater]

The tree is also better than ever

You are just too set on making your old build instead of a new one that's better

[ancient plover]

well I want my old QoL

Anticipation is a new node?

maybe I just cant remember it

[marble crater]

It's not new

There are builds in the pins, for the new tree, I suggest taking a look there. Play something from there and then tweak it a little to your preference

[ancient plover]

I want to play full assail with scriers but there doesnt seem to be one like that

they only seem to take assail as a travel node

[hidden current]

Does warp slice blessing on greatsword will activate on all enemies i hit during attack, or only on first target?

[strong gulch]

assail is still heavily used in those builds

[marble crater]

There are Melee/Gun builds

[ancient plover]

https://i.imgur.com/rLsrjTr.png this looks similiar to what I have played before

for the exception of unbound

[royal totem]

wtf.................

[strong gulch]

2 points left have at it

[ancient plover]

is perilious + souldrinker + wildfire consistent toughness?

[strong gulch]

If you have other sources of SB yes. If only PC no

[marble crater]

Are you asking if the ranged slice part will crit all enemies? I don't think so

[strong gulch]

Easy to test in the meat grinder

[marble crater]

No you

[royal totem]

i don't really understand anything Fable is talking about to be honest. it's like reading french or something

[marble crater]

Clearly you are not European, that's not Fr*nch

[ancient plover]

ey don't insult me with french

[crude cape]

is one of the FGS models considered generally better than the other or preference completely?

[ripe obsidian]

VI is generally considered better

It has better heavy attacks

VIII has better horde clear

[marble crater]

Total preference really, mk 6 is slightly better single target, mk 8 is slightly better for hordes, both are great for both

We will still have a civil war because of this

[ripe obsidian]

So long as I remain king at the end of the war

[marble crater]

"remain"?

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-king-didnt-vote-gif-8051023

[royal totem]

oh hey

i got Dodge this III just now

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-gif-10849295

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, Beloved, they do think I'm crazy.

[royal totem]

lmao

[hidden current]

Both ranged slice and normal heavy attack, unless warp slice blessing works only with warp slice slash itself?

I simply want to know if warp slice blessing works with any kind of attack

[raw flax]

how do i do insane damage with inferno build cause I might be using a gimp version

for havoc 40

[marble crater]

It only works with the special attack, not normal attacks

So the one that shoots the slash

[marble crater]

Show your version

[hidden current]

Is it good blessing btw?

[marble crater]

Not really

It's one of like two or three of the greatsword blessings that are not good and usable, another being blazing spirit

Wasted opportunity to make warp slice and blazing spirit an OP combo, alas

[raw flax]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a07a05b2-54ab-44cc-b147-d1d8cb1415fd/aaaa-5

[thorn cedar]

It's useable if you're juiced with finesse bonuses from Scriers + DD but it's not great, no. The cooldown really kills it.

[dull scroll]

melee blaze is an incredibly cool concept, they need to make it work by making blaze aoe proc or something
current state it's in is useless

[ancient plover]

is the dueling sword still goated? or did they balance it

[wraith sphinx]

they replaced the awesome poke special with a parry which isn't as good as devil claw's parry

I honestly stopped using the dueling sword completely

[quartz sky]

I stopped playing years ago and force sword was the meta. I think blaze force sword? Like Illisi mark V or something. Is it still good?

[sullen bobcat]

Illsi is pretty much replaced by the force great swords for horde clear
Deimos is still good as a single target

[quartz sky]

meh. Ok I'll have to get new gear. thx

[marble crater]

Looks mostly fine, except for the rending talent, inner tranquility and pen flame blessing, I would drop the two talents for kinetic deflection and take nexus instead of pen flame on the staff. Maybe you just need to watch some gameplay of how to play Inferno

[royal totem]

flame psyker can be super strong in h40 :3

[raw flax]

well ive never really played psyker as a class till recently so im figuring it out as i go. Those talents are near bottom of tree ?

[marble crater]

On the right, bottom yes

And the ones that aren't great are on the left

Inner Tranquility and Empyric Resolve are actually both not the best for Inferno, the staff already takes long to build up peril and taking both of those talents makes it even worse, you need high peril for more damage from talents and for your shriek

Might even want to think about dropping both of them for Inferno

[royal totem]

i mean.......if ya need them ya need them. ya know? nothing wrong with it but it is unideal

(on a side note using a diff build i exploded 4 times last round)

i'm very good at exploding

[marble crater]

Very proud of you

[royal totem]

thank you 😄

[raw flax]

so is that for improved survival mainly ?

and what in place of penn flame ?

[marble crater]

Warp Nexus

[royal totem]

not really for survival. it's just if you don 't absolutely need it it's kinda wasted points ya know?

cuz it doesn't do much for you if you don't absolutely need it

[raw flax]

wouldnt the brittle be a good thing in havoc tho? Imma try it but for the other talents idk if i need it

[royal totem]

maybe i could see an arguement for brittle in rot armor 🤔 but i don't think it would generically help you much otherwise.

[marble crater]

It would be good if you have another psyker with brittle from voidblast and then a team that plans to take advantage of that, but generally no, stick to Nexus and Blaze Away

[royal totem]

i think i'm not meant to psyker 🙁

requires more brainpower than my brain can output

[dull scroll]

ogryn chat to the right out the door

[raw flax]

and the talents should i just opt for higher damage throughput instead of kinetic ?

[ripe obsidian]

I just died to an H40 shooter swarm because I was scratching my nose and couldn't dodge-slide.

[royal totem]

sorry i can't play Ogryn either.

[dull scroll]

what

[royal totem]

yeah

they're so slow

[ripe obsidian]

We did win, though. Zealot had to sprint through the last 25% of the map solo to get revives

It was an impressive sprint

[royal totem]

was zealot the combat blade or DS

[ripe obsidian]

DS, I think

[royal totem]

ah

i was going to say i'd think combat blade speed super good for that type of run 😄

what map was this btw?

[ripe obsidian]

I died stupidly, trying to revive Ogryn in a very bad spot

Refinery Delta

Then Vet died somehow, not sure

[royal totem]

my worst nightmare

[ripe obsidian]

And Zealot had like 10 minutes of solo survival trying to get to the end

Did succeed

Was a fairly good run, even if I did go bubble

But we didn't get twins and had surprisingly few boss spawns

so

[royal totem]

i'm VERY very bad at refinery delta

[ripe obsidian]

Rot + final toll

[royal totem]

wish somebody would teach me how to do it better but i think i'm just too unskilled

[ripe obsidian]

Which part?

[royal totem]

i'm really bad at the end event

no clue where to go

so i just run around and then die

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, that end event is chaos

Just stay with the team mostly

[royal totem]

team always goes so fast i get left behind and die

[marble crater]

What is the end event? Input codes on two levels in a circle?

[royal totem]

it's a skill issue

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[royal totem]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Enemies spawning from everywhere, nowhere particularly good to hold out

I do not regret taking bubble on that map

[marble crater]

Entrance and exit area are okay to hold

[ripe obsidian]

By the time you get there, it's time to run back to the terminal

[marble crater]

Ignore the team, just kill enemies and stay alive

[royal totem]

so many tiny little pew pew guys shooting me and it's the worst feeling ever

[marble crater]

And don't forget to do this

[royal totem]

out of current map rotation i like Consignment Yard end event the most

Comsplex is ok too though

[rugged jolt]

can someone sell "seer's presence" to me? it seems like in a game where abilities have cooldowns ranging from 20-30s to like about a minute max, 10% CR can't be a lot

surely +5% crit chance to everyone is better anyway?

or maybe i'm missing something

[royal totem]

hmmm....... @ripe obsidian can probs explain better than me

[ripe obsidian]

Let's say I use Shriek 90-120 times in an average H40 mission

[royal totem]

barrel your teammates off by accident? ok

[ripe obsidian]

Which is about accurate

Seer's Presence gives me 3 seconds of cooldown back

So 270-360 seconds of cooldown over like 40 minutes?

Stack that with other cooldown reduction

And cooldowns get insanely short

[marble crater]

What accident? That was on purpose

[royal totem]

except you're also giving it to all your teammates and it just adds up a lot.

[ripe obsidian]

Also, things like Zealot's book have a 60 second cooldown

6 seconds can be gamechanging

And in most cases, that extra 5% crit chance doesn't matter very much

I mean, I get 40% or higher crit chance without it on Inferno staff

Yeah, my last game was 44% crit chance

Going up to 49% doesn't really matter much