psyker-class

[royal totem]

fair. i hope so too

[zealous wing]

if its underpowered, or overpowered, honestly either can be fun, long as it technically functions

[royal totem]

Yeah

Im def gonna havoc it

[zealous wing]

ok new scum clip, gives a lil hope back

at LEAST they've got a special target weapon

so, not too weak to do anything helpful

granted theres a high chance thats a lower difficulty but, still

[long wharf]

the dual-wielding-magnums into a horde and not visibly thinning it wasn't impressive

but I'm all for pulling out rocket launchers

[lone ravine]

The trailers aren’t usually impressive since they’re certified sedition games

[long wharf]

I'm not someone that specifically cares about dual wielding

I don't play Darktide to click my mouse buttons as fast as I can

[zealous wing]

it looked auto so maybe its a hold to fire

[long wharf]

I hope so

[zealous wing]

surge surge with knife gameplay

[long wharf]

my joints hurt just thinking about that

either way, this'll be the first Darktide content I don't pay for the premium package

[zealous wing]

im still debating it, but i do suppose it depends how happy i am with the base cosmetics, the deluxe doesnt have much that interests me

[long wharf]

frankly, I don't like the look of "crazy hive gangers" at all

[zealous wing]

the mask i do like, and maybe the coat, but im iffy on it

[long wharf]

it's really not my thing

[royal totem]

it might not even be 30 gameplay though

so like it might not be a proper reflection

[long wharf]

the devs are notoriously bad at their own game

and don't do any testing above Malice

[royal totem]

and the devs probably have shit aim so like

even if you're shooting a horde if your aim is shit

the stats on the gun are completely wrong or such

it's not really an "accurate" reflection

[indigo plank]

Prolly gonna pick up the deluxe because I know without any good hats or hoods I’ll be annoyed if my Scum has to wear the same fucking bob cut every fem character has had since launch lol

[modest perch]

who knows if itll be any good. the bfg slash looked super underwhelming in the previews or whatever but wound up being awesome

[royal totem]

i think its really just a wait and see

[indigo plank]

Crowbar looks fun

[royal totem]

i'm just gonna pick up the standard

[indigo plank]

Joked with a friend that it’ll be a different flavor of shovel and I think I might be onto something

Now that this dropped

[long wharf]

that looks like a lot of cleave

I care most about the talent tree, which we haven't seen yet

[white sky]

NDA breaks tomorrow right

[indigo plank]

It looks like Mk1 shovel with Mk3 Evi push attack

Which is HOT

[white sky]

Cant imagine we'll be waiting too long to see it then

[pure plinth]

i think that only representing necromunda-esque hive gangers as marketing was a mistake

[long wharf]

yeah, over the weekend we'll get good info

and a look at the talent tree

[indigo plank]

Although the PA overhead makes the Mk1 so I’m a lil worried it’ll be weak into Cara but we’ll see

Maybe it gets Uncanny

[long wharf]

everything has to be weak against carapace

to maintain Crusher Gang Superiority

[royal totem]

lots of things in game are good against carapace though.

[indigo plank]

The MK1 is relatively weak into cara but like crusher maul, it just has a weirdly powerful PA to help offset that

[pure plinth]

i know that fatshark can and will make it work but i hope for more than just that in terms of aesthetics

[indigo plank]

It helps against most beefier enemies, not just armor

[royal totem]

uncanny would be cool on it though

[indigo plank]

I like to PA overhead mutants with the shovel because it does so much damage that if my pugs shoot the thing, I’ll prolly just get the killing blow

I do wish less randos would magdump mutants and just take a step to the left

But I’m happy with this too

[zealous wing]

lmao first roll on psyker12

[indigo plank]

Niiice

[long wharf]

I predict that striketeams are going to be severely ammo starved when running two or more Scummers

[zealous wing]

generally, yeah.

[indigo plank]

I got my plasmoid godroll the other day just on a “I wonder”

[royal totem]

considering they have ammo aura maybe not

[indigo plank]

Laughed to my buddy like “yeah some people spend millions of ordos on this”

[royal totem]

but we'll see

feels pointless speculating

[indigo plank]

Rolled a reverse godroll at first with 71 thermal res but then within like six more rolls I got the real one

[royal totem]

especially so close to NDA lift

[zealous wing]

i feel sorry for anyone paired with a scum that mag dumps, an ogryn with a twink, and a new arby with hordelear shotgun

[royal totem]

LMAO

[zealous wing]

they'll be at eachothers throats possibly

however

having a hive scum and a vet both replacing ammo would be very good

[indigo plank]

laughs in melee psyker

[royal totem]

i was running with a vet the other day and god they were the worst.

[indigo plank]

I don’t consume any resources

Well, other than Medicae

[zealous wing]

laughs in surge surge

[white sky]

i feel like that one inf ammo scum talent is gonna pull every single recon vet to the class

ability? ykwim

[indigo plank]

Im excited for the real funny part

Everyone having to start in sedition again

[zealous wing]

does depend if they get something that hits the oneshot breakpoints in auric+

[zealous wing]

nah im going straight to auric

its gonna be pain

[indigo plank]

I could have a buddy drag me in but he’s also going to buy scum so

We’re gonna have to do it the old fashioned way

Can’t wait for the online posts about “can’t stand all these people playing scum just rushing ahead”

[white sky]

I dont think that matters to the accatran gamers who shoot all game

[zealous wing]

perhaps you could just switch, take a turn each seeing how it performs in auric for you at lvl 1, then level up together after that

[indigo plank]

Literally people trying to get out of malice as fast as possible

[zealous wing]

thats kind of what nem and i are gonna do, except we have someone who can take us both to auric at once

[indigo plank]

I love my friend to death but realistically it would be me leveling my scum and corpse dragging his at that level lmao

[white sky]

Tbh I'm probably not buying scum on release

[zealous wing]

trial by fire genuinely works in this game

[royal totem]

i've been trolling around as psyker these days

but i'm still a terrible psyker

[indigo plank]

He’s put himself through a couple of gauntlets and just got his lunch money taken by poxwalkers

[zealous wing]

i was pulled from malice (having heresy issues) to auric mael and im now as good of a tox flamer as dom is

[indigo plank]

He’s come a long way tho. I’m genuinely proud of how proficient he’s gotten relative to time played

[royal totem]

BUT

i don't explode much anymore

[indigo plank]

He really enjoys melee psyker but doesnt yet know how to control the power so he often finds himself backdashing into a pickle getting butt tickled

“Oh shit that’s a ton of guys behind us”
“Behind you big dawg! I’m back here”

[zealous wing]

final stats

[indigo plank]

He’s the only friend I’ve brought into Darktide that actually played long enough to regularly queue Damnation/Auric

[royal totem]

ah so map awareness

[indigo plank]

They all quit in malice

[zealous wing]

not bad for a throw away character

[indigo plank]

He’s developing gamesense slowly. There’s a lot of things that can’t be taught as much as they just gotta be experienced and fine tuned

[royal totem]

a friend brought me into darktide

[indigo plank]

“Always dodge when you hear a trapper net, even if you don’t think it’s aiming at you”

[zealous wing]

"always turn to push a burster, even if you think its not near enough to you"

[royal totem]

yeah. nothing wrong with that. i'm only 770hours in and i've only cleared havoc 29 🙁 i'm an unskilled player

[zealous wing]

dogs too

dogs jump from so far away

[royal totem]

don't have the map awareness of somebody a few thousand hours in

[zealous wing]

i hear the lunge i turn and push

[indigo plank]

I’ve also felt dogs jump faster since Arbites update

[zealous wing]

then whats the 40 by your name, HUH!?

[indigo plank]

Like they don’t spend as much time going “arrooo” before they actually jump

So they’ll round a corner and just TACKLE your ass

[royal totem]

i think that's the ThoughtsAndPrayers person

not me

😏

[royal totem]

it's like hard to describe to new people EXACTLY when to push

it's just like something you learn from experience

it's of course not about never getting dogged or netted or bursted

good players much more experienced than me still do. it's just about as little as possible

[indigo plank]

It’s dodging for me. I told him “Try not to dodge just for the sake of doing something with your fingers, or if you use it for movement don’t overextend. Your dashes lose effectiveness the more you spam them without waiting like a half second”

[zealous wing]

i almost took the wrong mark into a game again

that wouldve been pain

[indigo plank]

I’ve done that a lot with the Arby shotguns

“Oh fuck I took the duckbill”

[deft stump]

Always spam push 20+ times when you hear one.

[royal totem]

yeah there is that. but i think it's learning. i do sometimes just dodge when in melee but i guess it's also weird instinct for me

[indigo plank]

I’ve started double pushing bursters

[royal totem]

double pushing bursters better

[indigo plank]

Normally I just single push and dash back but I found you can squeeze the second one and holy fuck it feels so much better

[royal totem]

i have slower reflexes than most of you here so

[indigo plank]

It also broke my habit of ALWAYS doing a PA because I don’t let off the LMB

[deft stump]

Double? 20+ times panicking.

[royal totem]

if i preempt dodge it generally works better for me

[indigo plank]

Do you know how many times I’ve detonated a burster by clipping it with a PA from longer weapons?

It’s a sad number

Low, but sad

[royal totem]

i need to play more heresy

heresy is the right amount of you get punished for your mistakes but also a you aren't so brutally punished you can't recover

for me personally

[sullen bobcat]

Punish me harder, daddy Emps UwU

[outer condor]

Thank you for sharing

[strong gulch]

Got that no mouse bug.

Just doing 1 mission btw.

nevrmind

[long saddle]

I downloaded the relauncher mod, so that the game would relaunch on crash

problem is that quitting the game is actually a crash

so is alt f4

I was in a loop lol

I will just do it manually instead of this

[zealous wing]

the days of bursters being kinetically flayed by a psykers force weapon push attack are over so at least theres that

now we just gotta hope no one shot it earlier and it only has a couple HP left

[potent echo]

Seems like they added a new HK server for darktide

It has much more people playing than central Pacific asia

[zealous wing]

lmao

(he shot a burster and it killed him)

[lone ravine]

[zealous wing]

apparently after i blocked him he kept spewing trash so, glad i blocked him, and i hope he dies often

this was like, 5m later

[lone ravine]

I don’t get people who don’t take a singular piece of advice

[zealous wing]

"you should watch it giving unsolicited advice" tell me youre a moron without saying youre a moron

[lone ravine]

like as long as it’s not an entire game long I don’t care if someone gives a helpful remark

[zealous wing]

was literally the only advice i gave, and it was after he died to it

not after he shot it and killed me with it, after he shot another one and killed HIMSELF with it

[lone ravine]

hey he defused the burster at least

[royal totem]

it's funny

when they only kill themselves

it's not as funny when their willful ignorance punishes the rest of the team

or even one other teammate

[long wharf]

he really missed the opportunity to make it even funnier

should have just said "Emperor protects"

[zealous wing]

ye i accidentally pushed a burster into the zealot earlier that game, and it killed him. i took a medicae, and absolutely dumbassed myself to the res point to get him back up had like 20hp left by the time i got him up

[long wharf]

I've had my arbites dog push poxbursters into people

[zealous wing]

he doesnt seem like the kind to enjoy anything in life

let alone jokes

[long wharf]

yeah

[zealous wing]

i will accidentlly ping a burster sometimes, and frantically look for ANYTHING to ping

i would like a cancel dog button

[long wharf]

how about just not auto-sending your dog on first ping? 🙂

or use my mod that lets you hold down the ping button to send your dog

[zealous wing]

because 2nd ping is location

[royal totem]

i still thing bursters are the most buggy special

[long wharf]

buggy?

I've not noticed any bugs with how they work

pretty reliable

[lone ravine]

#psyker-class message

[long wharf]

I definitely haven't seen that happen myself

but okay

[weary crane]

Hounds are probably buggier but both are awful

[zealous wing]

hounds are buggy?

[lone ravine]

No charge up pounce, complete 180 pounces

[long wharf]

I'd chalk that up to lag

[weary crane]

Also ignoring stagger sometimes

And no sound

[zealous wing]

no sound is less the bursters fault and more the engines fault tbh

[long wharf]

sound is something that's not tied to a specific enemy (usually)

Darktide has so much audio going on that it easily runs out of audio channels

[lone ravine]

Sound is just because bajillion audio cues on at once therefore can’t do new ones

[long wharf]

and sometimes it's because the enemy literally spawned next to you

[weary crane]

I want a mod that allows you to remove unnecessary audio

[zealous wing]

all they need to do is make certain enemies have audio priority, namely bombers(and tox), bursters, hounds, and trappers

if they give priority to specialists it would be a smoother experience

bombers are on that list because they dont need LoS

so the only way to find them most the time is audio

[lone ravine]

Me watching the pox bomber hit 37 ricochet’s to dome me with a severed gas head

[zealous wing]

i do suppose sniper shots should also have priority

[potent echo]

Can anyone hear the sniper sound cue? I think they added one a few patches ago..

Like the laser's sound

[lone ravine]

I can hear the charge up noise

[weary crane]

I've had hounds bunny hop across the map, make 0 sound, land right next to me, ignore stagger, then immediately pounce from 180

[lone ravine]

Idk if thr laser makes a sound

oh it does make an ambient noise

I’ve never heard it

[potent echo]

Yea before the ping there's like a electrical brrgr sound

But it totally gets lost

[lone ravine]

Ngl im never gonna hear that

[weary crane]

I think sometimes sniper shoots before the laser sight even appears

[lone ravine]

Mostly because I need a new headset

[zealous wing]

i tend to hear it unless its helldensityhavoc

in which case i usually try to face the sniper to see the flash

[potent echo]

Yea sometimes I get shot without the seeing the laser, maybe it has to do with character height

[zealous wing]

could be the aggro was on someone else, sometimes that happens if youre collateral damage

[royal totem]

nice for you to never have bursters be buggy but most of us have unfortunately. and i think if the majority have there is probably some change due to make them just less buggy. i don't mind their damage or anything. just buggy.

[potent echo]

True but I tend to notice this more on my max height zealot and not my average height psyker

[zealous wing]

i want explosion event velocity back ngl

[potent echo]

Might just be a coincidence though

[zealous wing]

the amount of explosives on a burster should fling me farther

[potent echo]

Training room with creature spawner is some fun times

Spawn 30 bursters and detonate them

[potent echo]

Aw you didn't hit the ceiling

[zealous wing]

i have a slowly increasing project of "psykanium shenanigans" of me trying to hit the ceiling, playing with the lamps, etc

[potent echo]

100 bursters

[zealous wing]

i spend way too much time in there

i get all the lore drops

[royal totem]

oh no

i'm almost starting to like fgs

[potent echo]

Yes

[zealous wing]

welcome

[royal totem]

rip

i think pox gas is so obnoxious cuz you can't see incoming specials

i took 0 damage till a poxburster killed me in one go by exploding me off a bridge

[sacred crane]

ok which of my siblings named themselves this

[prime elk]

i don't think he's a sibling...

[potent echo]

If book isn't warp magic what is it

[sacred crane]

ah fack i just realized he is a zealot

[royal totem]

zealots are untrustworthy

[loud girder]

the ego on some people

[potent echo]

I assume people know it was a mistake

[zealous wing]

they dont have book

[potent echo]

[lone ravine]

Forgor book at home

[potent echo]

That's why I chain it to my back

[vague crater]

hello can someone confim that the mark VI blaze force greatsword is real?

because i CANT FIND ONE

not even the stupid robot sells it

[icy tusk]

Anyone down to help with a penance? It's the malleus monstonum

[royal totem]

bruh. you just switch marks after getting a weapon

like if it's mk 8 you can switch to 6

[royal totem]

i can help u

after i bio

ok i can help u now

[icy tusk]

Unsure what bio is but thank you my friend code is 6017341542

[royal totem]

bio is just biological needs

snacks/water/bathroom etc

hop in strike team 2

i'll quickly explain fastest way to do it etc

don't have to talk. just listen

[royal totem]

sent you an invite i think

and......another MM done :3

[zealous wing]

yeah what nems said, its a mark, you switch can marks of weapons when you unlock them through mastery levels

[vague crater]

wHAt

thats what i get for only playing veteran i guess

[zealous wing]

you can do it with any weapon that has marks

including lasguns, reconlas guns, melee weapons, etc

[vague crater]

lol

ty

[royal totem]

i got told to take bubble

now i just keep blowing up

lul

my conclusion is never take bubble if you're not used to it lul

[zealous wing]

lmao who has the skissue where they require bubble?

[royal totem]

the arbs

[zealous wing]

LMAO they HAVE A BULLETPROOF SHIELD

you can block SNIPER SHOTS with that bitch

[silver goblet]

hey @royal totem , will you have some time to help me with malleus monstonum? 🙂 Last penance for my psyker 🙂 as I understood you an expert in this)

[zealous wing]

oof nemui trying to dethrone me? the audacity

[silver goblet]

I can use your help as well, so you will keep your throne xD

[zealous wing]

xD

eithers fine, what region are you?

[silver goblet]

eu

[zealous wing]

cool

nems wanna tag along? easier with 3 than with 2, much faster clear after

[deft stump]

I think it blocks overheads as well in auric.

[potent echo]

I also blow up all the time with shield

[deft stump]

You can just leave when done tbh.

The penance doesn't require completion.

I helped enough ppl to know that.

[zealous wing]

well no but never hurts to finish the mission

[quiet inlet]

don't get to 5mil dockets by quitting missions

[deft stump]

Is heresy, wouldn't going damn or auric get you more dockets, hrm?

Assuming you are up for it anyway.

But yeah, is more ppl wanna just get it done and leave.

[bitter frost]

does anyone have any suggestions for the Malleus Monstronum penance?

[paper harbor]

use lfg to do that penaces, as private group

[deft stump]

Just bb a boss while a slab oggy tanks it.

Do not take any soublaze things.

[paper harbor]

brain burst a boss with blue stimm faster or red make more dmg.

[bitter frost]

kk :D

[deft stump]

Best boss is pogryn or DH.

[bitter frost]

i tried to do it on the slug bc its slow but the health was way too high :/

[royal totem]

srry was in havoc

[deft stump]

Let the oggy with slab pull DH aggro and drop shield.

[bitter frost]

betttt

[royal totem]

need help?

[bitter frost]

yeahh\

[royal totem]

alright bet

inv me

i'll help you

[royal totem]

i trust hexis already helped you

[royal totem]

numbers next to my name here are my friend code

[bitter frost]

okok :D

uhh nothings showing up :/

[royal totem]

gimme your code

i'll find you

[bitter frost]

1237612970

[deft stump]

Honestly, I would help if I'm not in bed and on phone. Been awhile since I did it.

[royal totem]

nothing is showing up for you either 🤔

[bitter frost]

hmmmm weird

[royal totem]

on an unrelated note. i refuse to go bubble on inferno staff

it's just miserable

[bitter frost]

oml im so dumb i thought you meant steam friend code lmao

[royal totem]

lmao

it's all good

[deft stump]

I got on to check. Just send code and I'll do a quick one.

[bitter frost]

ok i sent the inv

[deft stump]

Or invite.

[bitter frost]

okok im in one of the VCs if you wanna join

[royal totem]

i'll join

tell me which

@deft stump you want NA east or NA west

[bitter frost]

strike team 3

[royal totem]

also brb bio sec before we start

[deft stump]

I do west usually.

[silver goblet]

yep 🙂

[potent echo]

I feel like it's not needed in regular play because inferno already suppresses like crazy

[royal totem]

you know what's better than a bubble? killing the enemies lmao

[potent echo]

Also shriek let's you stop one entire direction

So you can purge the other direction

[royal totem]

shriek lets you also ez save people from dogs etc

[potent echo]

Assuming you have friends they can help you mop up either direction too

[deft stump]

That is called a rock or a kickback to it/

[royal totem]

i hit 5m

i should be good for hive scum now 🙂

[deft stump]

Ah.

Been so long since MM lul. I kinda thought the next generation helps now.

[royal totem]

mostly me and hexis :3

[deft stump]

Yeah, is what I mean. Next gen. Some joked about doing their time.

First person I tried helping, we played an entire afternoon. I couldn't try to solo heresy and we didn't get early bosses.

Ended up with a mid run DH that I just provoked as the final try of the day.

[zealous wing]

i always go for maps with guarenteed spawns

if theres none on the board we do a map thats alright and just see how it goes

[deft stump]

We didn't have guaranteed spawn maps then.

[zealous wing]

consignment wasnt around?

[deft stump]

Didn't roll them.

So we just went random missions praying for DH.

Missions used to be random based on difficulty. So you only had 3 actual missions on heresy.

And I had to do the heavy lifting from memory since that person doesn't play higher diffs.

[royal totem]

i just campaign dark comunion

[deft stump]

No campaign back then.

[zealous wing]

campaigns dont have DHs if we want a chance for more backup plans if i have to take over

depends how confident i am the other person can avoid and kill the monster tbh

[royal totem]

ah

[deft stump]

DH is safe bet.

[zealous wing]

it is if youre a psyker or oggy

[deft stump]

Just focus on disablers.

[raw coral]

some cute seer/bully dialogue

[deft stump]

And chip into the DH.

[royal totem]

i like dark comunion cuz normally on heresy i find it's 2-3 chances

[deft stump]

Corruption damage from DH aura stops at around 40% hp left.

This is tested on my psyker mostly. Cos I used to do it with that funni build.

[wind spruce]

this makes zero sense

even account for rounding crit damage gives a worse % damage than weakspot does

and why do you only get ~24 bonus damage from the crit damage perk when its a ~282 damage increase from non-crit

[deft stump]

10% of 282?

[wind spruce]

yeah so i'd be expecting like 4 more damage

[deft stump]

Maybe some weird rounding error.

[wind spruce]

even with rounding it doesnt add up

the third row i have the base rounded down and the perk modified damage rounded up

[deft stump]

I wonder if there's variational damage. No talent vet baseline or so?

[wind spruce]

on psyker with zero talents

[deft stump]

I assume jank FS coding.

[wind spruce]

yeah unsurprising result tbh

[royal totem]

anybody playing atm?

non-havoc only

[mossy hazel]

Can not beat this fucking twins mission

[royal totem]

why ?

what difficulty and such?

[mossy hazel]

Heresy. Just doing the campaign.

[royal totem]

i can help you if you need help

not guaranteed win but i'll be better than most randoms

[mossy hazel]

Sure, happy to take any help I can get. I’m new, but I feel like I’m mostly pulling my weight.

I even grabbed bubble to try to help the team a bit more but no luck so far.

[royal totem]

1 person can rarely carry a mission

inv me

i'll help

my friend code is next to my name

[mossy hazel]

Yea plugging it in

🤘

[royal totem]

i can't read strike team chat but yea xD put is in mission when ready

[mossy hazel]

I’m not typing anyway. On PS5.

[royal totem]

fair

[zealous wing]

want another?

[mossy hazel]

Appreciate the help.

[royal totem]

we'll just dip it

and inv hexis

[mossy hazel]

Heck yea

[zealous wing]

i can just join if theres room

[royal totem]

oh

damn

too late i dipped

lmao

inv me again Fox

[zealous wing]

all good, sorry xD

[royal totem]

hexis can just join from me

[mossy hazel]

Inviting

[royal totem]

also lemme switch to my zealot. will give us better buffer

ok rdy

[mossy hazel]

Did it not queue us?

It dropped me solo right into an active mission

[royal totem]

hmmmm not sure

[zealous wing]

it split us up then nems left

rescued the two others and left, least i apologised xD

[mossy hazel]

Yea, uhh.

[royal totem]

not sure what happened there

[zealous wing]

its been a bug a couple times, game freaks out and doesnt know what to do when someone joins right as another group, and just says "fuck it, split em"

[mossy hazel]

I can try again

[zealous wing]

ye

[mossy hazel]

lol

[zealous wing]

gg on the keep your distance penance as well

[mossy hazel]

No idea what that is haha

[zealous wing]

dont get hit in melee by an elite on heresy +

[mossy hazel]

Well, thanks for the carry that was so easy compared to my other runs

[zealous wing]

not a problem :D

[royal totem]

the twins fight is actually hard for new people

[zealous wing]

ye tell me about it

[royal totem]

cuz if you don't know how they work/how to handle it

[zealous wing]

when it was just my spouse and i playing in private games, it was a fucking struggle

[royal totem]

it's very punishing

i failed through it cuz at some point i got lucky and got qued with good players

also cuz like most players going through it first time are still using low power weapons that are gray

without their whole tree either

[zealous wing]

its the only reason my other characters were as leveled as they were, because my spouse and i just stopped at that mission until we figured it out

[royal totem]

having a book zealot makes a lot of room in that mission though

[mossy hazel]

Not sure if I left the strike group but it was unintentional. Got an invite, accepted, total strangers. Also, heard my dog whine and had to sprint to let him out.

[zealous wing]

no worries, had to relaunch

[royal totem]

i left cuz i'm in the "relax and sleep soon" phase

[strong gulch]

It feels like the game is shortening the amount of reaction time players can have in order to react on time. More noticeable in havocs. I don't mean lag or bad ping.

[zealous wing]

was having weird menu lag, but im down to hang out if you like

[zealous wing]

i like to think i have decent reaction time but i still dunno how to "perfect block" or what that threshhold even is

[royal totem]

it's cuz game hides too much info from players imo

[mossy hazel]

Cool, well, I appreciate it. I’m gonna head out too, but didnt want to be rude and just leave the group and vanish. Dog has been super sick so the moment he twitches I’m running across the house

[zealous wing]

valid

[royal totem]

🙁 hope dog gets better

like if you don 't have a mod you can't even see how much hp any boss beyond 2 has

[zealous wing]

i dont have that mod, makes havoc a bit more spicy when suddenly, no theres TWO CS and twins,

[royal totem]

which would be fine if the game never gives you more than 2 bosses at once

but it does

[zealous wing]

mortis also gives you like, 8

which mod is that actually

[royal totem]

think Healthbars does it but unsure.

[strong gulch]

I have notoriously slow reaction time. It gets worse with health issues. Like 400 ms (with good internet but is still online, so take it with a grain of salt. It's not usually that bad) but it still happens.

[royal totem]

my reaction time is pretty slow too

i guess it's not very relevant to most people cuz most people will never get 2+ bosses at once

[zealous wing]

50% of the people who've played this game have never beaten an uprising mission, so i think that do be accurate

[royal totem]

i mean auric and below is unlikely to get more than two

even like havoc 20s is unlikely to get more than two unless boss+twins

it happens but like in 20s i can count on one hand the number of times i've had more than 3 (twins+1 boss)

[zealous wing]

heya dom

[royal totem]

i jsut go "wow this is a very bad day"

[zealous wing]

it can always be worse

poor soul who had rot stims lights out hounds on h5

tells me early havoc does indeed get spicy sometimes

[royal totem]

it does

i did rot garden havoc 22 i think it was earlier

and i think a few of my teammates weren't having it

imagine getting rot toll or rot garden 5

[weary idol]

stimms sucks balls fuck stimms

[weary idol]

rot is not that bad

stimms and pox gas are

[deft stump]

Pretty sure that is true. Things are feeling more spicy even at the usual ping. Like dodges that used to count not counting and such.

[deft stump]

Mine slowed as I aged. I miss being able to dodge 0.12 warning till instagib.

[burnt maple]

what do Psykers have that kills bosses fast? i've never seen a psyker take down a boss fast

[prime elk]

gunker stuff

[deft stump]

Skitarius cheating to spam certain hits.

[burnt maple]

hmm, none of our staves/spells then?

[deft stump]

Watched a chaos spawn die in less than 2 secs before.

And while you can 1-2 shot on zealot thunderhammer, this is on psyker.

[patent jacinth]

None of the direct warp stuff is good for bosses

Its mostly specific guns and melee

Force Greatsword, Infantry Autoguns, Laspistol, and Combat Shotguns all work

[burnt maple]

hmm i'll try that out

sucks that i have to rely on team if i'm not using a build with that

[weary idol]

gun

https://imgur.com/a/7vqAa9G

[burnt maple]

i don't want to use a gun 🤷

i want to use magic

so the answer is nothing

[patent jacinth]

Sword

[burnt maple]

i've been using the force greatsword on a lot of builds so i'm trying out other stuff

the chain axe seems okay

[patent jacinth]

Knife, force greatsword, the good marks of normal force sword, dueling sword (gross), devil's claw (one trick)

All of these are quite good for bosses

[strong gulch]

If you really want to use staves, EK and inferno are the options for boss killing.

It's not the worst but it's not the best.

[burnt maple]

which one is EK?

for inferno, Penetrating Flames or no?

[strong gulch]

electrokinetic

the one with lightening secondary

[strong gulch]

no

blazeaway + nexus

[burnt maple]

alright, i'll try that. i have the speed blessing + blazeaway atm

[patent jacinth]

Inferno for bosses is just a complicated way of saying just use soulblaze

[burnt maple]

what blessings for EK?

[strong gulch]

IF you really want to push the damage, using melee to buff the SB DoT is the way to go. That isn't using the staff directly tho, but warp stuff is doing the main damage for you.

[deft stump]

Blaze away and penetrating can work if you sleep with a God/Goddess of Luck.

[strong gulch]

It's in the build bonanza in the pins.

Ek is flak + maniac / unyielding and nexus + flurry

RMB assumed

[burnt maple]

cool, thanks!

i'll try them out

left tree i assume or middle?

[strong gulch]

left

EK can do well with right side but will need assail to help with hordes if doing right side.

[wind spruce]

FGS

[deft stump]

Cos a lucky leprechaun will crit all the time even at a 1% crit rate

[strong gulch]

yes

but also assail

[wind spruce]

TRUE

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[tulip kettle]

penetrating flames on inferno

is only worth taking into rot armour, and only if you dont mind losing your own damage to boost your team mates damage

[solid pond]

better to just run normal BA./WN with a uncanny melee

[tulip kettle]

i agree

but, pen flames is actually better overall damage if your team are competent

[strong gulch]

if

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/hercules-pain-panic-if-if-is-good-gif-5298310

[deft stump]

Or you sleep with a god or goddess of luck.

[solid pond]

nah they can be competent and not be running stuff great at taking advantage of pen flames

when you could just kill the enemy

[deft stump]

And crit non-stop anyway.

[tulip kettle]

it stacks with other sources of brittle

60% brittle makes ogryns and arbies go brr honestly

like dont get me wrong, you can just run normal and stack uncanny and do it all yourself

but if your team are otherwise good with competent builds you will get faster overall TTK on crusher blobs with pen flames

i would still take blaze away and drop nexus for it

its especially useful if you are running bubble and so cant overcap inferno stacks easily

and dont rely so much on EE

but yes, usually into rot i would just say take shriek and nexus and do it all yourself

[ripe obsidian]

Big if.

[strong gulch]

Might have room for JaD if not peril edging.

I don't. Too much skissue

[solid pond]

don't even need shriek to melt cara hordes, sure it does it faster but uncanny/superiority does wonders anyway

[burnt maple]

if i'm using Nexus, should i also build into Empathic Evasion?

[zealous wing]

JaD is GREAT for melee heavy builds (like gunker/meleeker), but as a caster JaD does cause issues ye

[tulip kettle]

you always build EE honestly

but, yes

[ripe obsidian]

EE is one of the best nodes in the tree.

[solid pond]

ranged attack evasion is just really good

[burnt maple]

with Prescience or is Seer's Presence fine?

[ripe obsidian]

Seer's Presence is my preference

[solid pond]

yeah, don't need to critmax that hard

[ripe obsidian]

I usually sit around 40% overall crit rate on my inferno staff w/ Seer's Presence

And with inferno, that's more than enough

[strong gulch]

Ye

[tulip kettle]

this is inferno meta build

its 28 points

spend the last 2 getting some of the red ones you want

[burnt maple]

i usually take shield to get people to move in

[tulip kettle]

if you take bubble instead of shriek, get the blue ones

[solid pond]

bubble good too yea

[burnt maple]

i drop it ahead of where we're going so people feel confident to move in

[zealous wing]

this one knows whats up with bubble

[ripe obsidian]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Av6T7DJRkm78M3csiZec6p7-cHXOWiKyjpOJ-FWV3g/edit?tab=t.0

Look upon my works, ye mighty, and use them as a base for your builds.

[solid pond]

it catches a bit less cope than smite but people still cope about it here

but a tool is a tool

[zealous wing]

bubble is the ultimate mindgame tool

[tulip kettle]

bubble is fine

for the reasons said here

[solid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20591327

[tulip kettle]

its really good as a "simpletons stand here" sign

[burnt maple]

i'm a returning player, i know Ogryns have Ogrynomicon, did the Psyker, Anathema? one ever take off or is it gone now?

[solid pond]

check pinned

[tulip kettle]

it was good for a while, but now its outdated

[zealous wing]

we now have bonanza

[ripe obsidian]

The Athenaeum is out of date.

[strong gulch]

Bubble's greatest weakness is grated flooring.

[tulip kettle]

six's build guide is great

[ripe obsidian]

My pinned build guide is the most up to date thing afaik

[zealous wing]

TRUE 😭

[burnt maple]

alright, i'll check i tout

[tulip kettle]

and then any questions about specific talents etc just ask here

[zealous wing]

that one torrent mission where we go down the stairs or get nurgled, i missed, and the shield went all the way to the bottom

[burnt maple]

i've just been messing around with stuff. i like the high peril Sword+bubble builds

[tulip kettle]

silo

i think the main mechanic you may not be fully appreciating is stacking uncanny with soulblaze

https://tenor.com/view/larry-spongebob-observe-watch-me-gif-26839256

[zealous wing]

i still have the crusher slaughter clip saved

its a really good demonstration

[tulip kettle]

the one im posting is better

theres 30

[zealous wing]

[solid pond]

glad people are abusing it now

[zealous wing]

to the demonstration folder it goes

[solid pond]

[terse lintel]

why is inferno staff is so much stronger than any other, even combined

[tulip kettle]

it isnt

it literally isnt

uncanny + DoTs is

[solid pond]

cleave

[terse lintel]

ive been playng with voidblast for my whole life

[tulip kettle]

its uncanny that makes it good

[terse lintel]

now ive equipped inferno just test it and it does gorillion damage

[solid pond]

its good without uncanny, maybe not against crushers but it still dominates everything else because of infinite cleave

[terse lintel]

with brain rupture + passive

[solid pond]

even through bulwark shields

[zealous wing]

inferno is still really good for trash clearing on its own, but ye the absolute power house of it comes from interactions that weren't really planned

[tulip kettle]

if they nerf uncanny interacting with DoTs it wont be meta anymore

[burnt maple]

so you swap to the Deimos with Uncanny and it works for your dots from Inferno?

[tulip kettle]

yes

if you watch the clip i posted

[burnt maple]

i thought they fixed that

[terse lintel]

you just spam your fire and random balls explode because of your passive

[tulip kettle]

you can also see that the push attack gives you uncanny stacks

and staggers crushers

and keeps your peril up

[zealous wing]

and yet, people would rather have an inferno bubble psyker than an inferno shriek psyker 😔

[tulip kettle]

but, inferno itself doesnt do great damage to non trash

without this interaction

[zealous wing]

quick brb btw dom

[burnt maple]

what is Shriek doing there aside from CC?

[tulip kettle]

overcapping soulblaze

inferno can only stack up to 15 (16) stacks

shriek goes up to 31

[burnt maple]

i see

[wind spruce]

Love to see another Uncanny Smack Bang In The Middle Enjoyer

[solid pond]

at 85% peril shriek will apply 6 stacks of extra soulblaze on top of infernos capped

[ripe obsidian]

83.5%

[solid pond]

incredible

[burnt maple]

uncanny strike and what? mine has Slaughterer, which i assume is right

[tulip kettle]

deflector or superiority

[burnt maple]

okay cool

i'll try this out

thanks

[solid pond]

what i use for bubble ferno slave

[wind spruce]

However I prefer to stack my uncanny using special and then getting domed by a crusher

[strong gulch]

Ye. 83.5% peril but due rounding shriek at 85% with default UI.

[tulip kettle]

you will notice this is one of the variations of what i posted

[solid pond]

I will not

[tulip kettle]

the build is always the same 28 points then the last 2 vary

[solid pond]

scrolling up bad

but yeah, warp ghost and ER go really nice together

[wind spruce]

What two points is it

[solid pond]

so much shoot

[tulip kettle]

catmiral has spent the 2 on warp ghost and ER

[wind spruce]

Ty

[tulip kettle]

with bubble you take ER, without bubble you dont

[burnt maple]

Penetration of the Soul sounds like a good talent on paper, but i assume it's garbage on use?

[ripe obsidian]

Most things don't benefit from it

[tulip kettle]

it is indeed

[ripe obsidian]

I think I have some notes about it in the guide

[patent jacinth]

Its not even that good on paper

[tulip kettle]

PoTS is pretty good on voidblast

but otherwise its a nope

[strong gulch]

more like skin deep

[burnt maple]

Rending is pretty cracked on the melee jobs

[tulip kettle]

you just dont need it with uncanny

[burnt maple]

but on just warp, that doesn't sound useful

[nocturne wasp]

[ripe obsidian]

Look at the ADM part of the bonanza

[tulip kettle]

and due to the ADMs on the various warp stuff you have access to, it just does nothing

[ripe obsidian]

Anything that's 100%+ gets 1/4 benefit

[burnt maple]

should let us go in the negative rending on things lol

-120%

[tulip kettle]

it does like six just said

[wind spruce]

Do you know if this is base damage

Or additive with most sources like pretty much everything but strength is

[burnt maple]

oh then it's just not enough to matter and on not enough things

[tulip kettle]

kinda

ill use an example

soulblaze does 5% damage to carapace

[icy breach]

Have you tried usingvtrauma staff for a change?

[ripe obsidian]

What do you mean?

[tulip kettle]

POTS as max peril makes it do 20% damage

which is still nothing

[weary idol]

yucky cheater mods

[tulip kettle]

but uncanny makes it do over 100% by itself

so, just stack uncanny and fuck off POTS

[burnt maple]

makes sense

[ripe obsidian]

Uncanny needs a significant nerf.

[wind spruce]

well increasing your armour pen increases your base damage, which scales better with damage multipliers like perfect timing, right? so does the extra damage something like uncanny gives when you're over 100% also count as base damage

[tulip kettle]

BLASPHEMY

HEATHEN

[zealous wing]

HERESY

[burnt maple]

i don't like nerfing things, they should make other blessings not suck

they have to have a pick rate statistic on their end

[ripe obsidian]

I believe it counts as a % damage increase additively, but I can confirm.

[zealous wing]

though to be fair they should FIX it

[tulip kettle]

there is nothing to be fixed

this same mechanic applies to so much stuff, its a core mechanic of the game

[icy breach]

Rending shockwave does it better tho

[tulip kettle]

both 🙂

i have been experimenting with a rending + SG + POTS charges build in havoc

is pretty good honestly

[zealous wing]

soon ™

[icy breach]

Do you know how much adm voidblast has vs carapace?

[ripe obsidian]

I do.

[strong gulch]

Remember the days before the big uncanny buff and DS buff. When they were still psyker exclusives and hit kinda like wet noodles?

[ripe obsidian]

It is in the guide.

I believe 80%

[burnt maple]

what is adm?

[ripe obsidian]

Armor damage modifier

[burnt maple]

i see

[wind spruce]

speaking of damage calcs and fatshark's immaculate coding, this was annoying me earlier. like why doesnt the 10% crit damage perk give as much as i'd expect

[icy breach]

I forgot

[wind spruce]

green is psykhanium values and the red(ish) colour is trying to account for rounding

[ripe obsidian]

There's code to make crits function strangely. Like, to force crits to happen or not happen

Or prevent crit strings

[wind spruce]

id expect (385-97)*0.1+385= 413.8 to be the value with the crit damage perk but its missing ~7 damage

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, going by Kuli's writings, anything above 100% ADM is an additive damage modifier.

[burnt maple]

what curios are you guys using? i'm using 3x17% toughness...but i do have 21% healths, and 3 stams

[ripe obsidian]

(assuming I interpreted correctly, and I am slightly drunk, so that's not guaranteed)

[tulip kettle]

btw six

[wind spruce]

all stam, all stam regen, all sprint efficiency, all block efficiency

[tulip kettle]

this

[wind spruce]

[wind spruce]

ill have a look

[icy breach]

If thats the case then PotS is pointless

[modest perch]

always has been

[ripe obsidian]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3286161222

[modest perch]

it was just a tax node

[ripe obsidian]

"The rending surplus of 1.25-1=0.25 is then converted into a generic damage buff at a quarter of its value. So the attack now deals 320+320x(0.25x0.25)=340 damage total to the Carapace-armored hit zone."

[strong gulch]

What if we all run variations of this.

No one would hear anything.

[tulip kettle]

is what i suggest for rending + flurry voidblast with FGS

[ripe obsidian]

PotS is a maximum 25% damage increase to flak and carapace on Voidblast.

[icy breach]

Unless you dont use rending shockwave then fair enough but tgen why would you not use of the best brittle aplication sources in the game

[tulip kettle]

you can also drop battle med for POTS to get +5% dmg on the trauma

[icy breach]

Brittle does that

[ripe obsidian]

What is this build?

[terse lintel]

yall are gaslightning people

[tulip kettle]

rending + flurry blast with duelling sword / knife

[ripe obsidian]

I know. I believe I put in the guide that I would only recommend using PotS on blazing spirit Voidblast, and even then it's iffy.

[wind spruce]

that doesnt tell us if its additive with other damage buffs (I think - I'm also 4 beers deep rn)

[solid pond]

proof?

[tulip kettle]

and, again, you can take pots

[terse lintel]

i never saw psyker with any other scepter

[ripe obsidian]

It looks like additive to me.

[terse lintel]

on havoc 40

[tulip kettle]

it gives about 5% more dmg on the trauma

[icy breach]

I use both rending & blazing

[ripe obsidian]

You disgust me.

[terse lintel]

i was just maining arbi with vet and now decided to try psyker

[tulip kettle]

lstw

again

do you understand what we said

[zealous wing]

surge surge works fine on h40, so does blazing trauma, or rending trauma with an inferno psyker teammate

[icy breach]

Don’t worry crushers hate me too

[tulip kettle]

its not inferno thats broken, its the interaction of soulblaze with uncanny

so does the game timer.

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno has infinite cleave, and Uncanny is broken.

Ideally, Inferno would just clear trash mobs and be useless against armored enemies.

[tulip kettle]

which, IT IS

[ripe obsidian]

If you aren't using uncanny.

[tulip kettle]

but the CORE MECHANIC in the game of blessings applying to current sources of damage makes it work

[wind spruce]

"The rending surplus of 1.25-1=0.25 is then converted into a generic damage buff at a quarter of its value."

"Generic damage buff" implies additive but he doesnt explicitly say

[ripe obsidian]

" So the attack now deals 320+320x(0.25x0.25)=340 damage total to the Carapace-armored hit zone."

[tulip kettle]

in testing i get about 5% damage increase using POTS with rending trauma.

[ripe obsidian]

That's the important part

[nocturne wasp]

[icy breach]

Correction; kill everything relatively fast exept bulwarks & crushers

[strong gulch]

If team has good frontloaded damage then inferno should be useless vs armor. Otherwise...

[burnt maple]

i wish there was a talent that would make overperil explode the zealot, or another team mate ins tead of you

[icy breach]

Yeah that 5% dmg could be something better imo

[tulip kettle]

yeah ive been using battle med instead

to get more casts during scriers

[zealous wing]

sadly the explosion collars are on us not them

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno is just too good at killing most things. It's a one-size-fits-all firestick

[strong gulch]

Question.

Does the 10% ranged damage node apply to VB RMB?

The previous +5% ranged damage node did not.

[tulip kettle]

i have never played without it, but i could test

though, not now

i need to go be adult

[zealous wing]

awww

[strong gulch]

I should have been in bed hours ago.

[tulip kettle]

AHAHA

my sweet summer child

but yes, go to bed sleepy bean

[zealous wing]

559 kills away and he bails

[wind spruce]

thats additive with base. it doesnt tell you what happens with other buffs. what im wondering is if another buff, eg perfect timing, would be (1.15+0.25x.025)x320 or (0.25x0.25x320)x1.15x320

[strong gulch]

You mean sweet summer grandpa.

[icy breach]

Just no stagger so if you end up in a position you cannot escape from you lose; uncanny semi prevents that cause it nullifies negative adm basically
Thats why imo trauma > inferno

[tulip kettle]

but you have your force sword pushing for uncanny stacks

[icy breach]

Oh thats me

[tulip kettle]

which is strong stagger

[strong gulch]

not me

I'm weak af boi

[wind spruce]

or, more simply, (1.15+0.0625)x320 or 1.15x340

[icy breach]

I mean grandpas are too

[ripe obsidian]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/6a065543d8cce32f5a32430068ecac49501f498f/scripts/utilities/attack/damage_calculation.lua#L72

[icy breach]

[ripe obsidian]

Here you go

[wind spruce]

i cant read code 🙁

[tulip kettle]

ask chatgpt.

[wind spruce]

thats why i annoy you lot do ingame testing

[strong gulch]

Some of them have that crazy old man strength.

[zealous wing]

its just if/then statements, its not that bad

[icy breach]

Worth checking

[ripe obsidian]

Going by the code, it appears to be separate from other damage multipliers

[tulip kettle]

if you guys havent got there before me i will test later this eve

[ripe obsidian]

It's a unique variable of overdamage_rending_multiplier

which is applied at the same time as rending

[strong gulch]

the grandpa flavors

can easily chuck 80lb bags around
or
yells up a lung getting out of the chair

[ripe obsidian]

So it does seem to modify the base damage before other modifiers are applied

local rending_damage = damage * (rended_armor_damage_multiplier - armor_damage_modifier)

[wind spruce]

hell yeah

[ripe obsidian]

rended_armor_damage_multiplier = armor_damage_modifier + rending_multiplier * overdamage_rending_multiplier

[icy breach]

So its worse vs carapace?

[wind spruce]

suspicions confirmed

[ripe obsidian]

It would mean, assuming I am interpreting correctly, that if you have, say, 30% rending on a Voidblast staff, your damage would count as 102.5% damage before other multipliers instead of 80%

damage = damage * rended_armor_damage_multiplier

[wind spruce]

yep so if you did 102 damage instead of 100, that 2 damage is multiplied by your other damage talents, instead of it just counting as +2% to your total additive damage, eg, 10% melee node would give you 112.2 instead of 112

gamechanger

[terse lintel]

gamechanger (ive spend an hour and figured how to get 5% more dmg with trauma scepter instead of using inferno)

[ripe obsidian]

It does seem to be the case, yes

[strong gulch]

mafs

[ripe obsidian]

I am checking Voidblast w/ +ranged damage now

It does not seem to improve damage

[marble crater]

Because voidblast is explosion damage, no?

[ripe obsidian]

Korrekt

attack_type.explosion or something

[marble crater]

Damn I'm so smart

[burnt maple]

how do you handle crushers as gun psyker?

[ripe obsidian]

Sorry, attack_types.explosion

It is plural for some reason

[wind spruce]

sword

[burnt maple]

i see

[icy breach]

You use your melee or cry

[burnt maple]

do people use the Obscurus at all?

[wind spruce]

in game with it right now

very fun

[burnt maple]

i've been using it recently over the deimos and have been liking it

[solid pond]

usually there is a split between obscuras and deimos

both are very good

[icy breach]

1 substantial difference;
Deimos can stunlock enemies with special spam, obscurus will not

[burnt maple]

is one curio enough to counter the Empyric Resolve -30% Toughness Replenished?

the +30% toughness regen thing

[icy breach]

Never use toughness regen speed

its dogshit

[burnt maple]

i thought it was good? i always used it on Ogryn

[icy breach]

Old news

No longer relevant in any way

[burnt maple]

what should i replace it with? -gunner?

[solid pond]

Pretty sure Deimos push attack has more stagger too

[ripe obsidian]

I recommend, in no particular order, +cooldown, -gunner damage, +toughness, +revive speed

[icy breach]

Always 2x gunner rez
Always 3x cdr
Always 2 -3x toughness
Always 1 - 2x revive speed

[burnt maple]

revive speed?

[solid pond]

Depending on your health and priorities, +HP is not bad to break 100hp too

[zealous wing]

it works on unnets and cliffhangers now to, and rescues

[solid pond]

Its good, also counts as assist speed now

[burnt maple]

i see

[zealous wing]

so its actually handy now

[icy breach]

Only on psyker

Cause passive dr

[solid pond]

Well I use it on vet so..

[burnt maple]

i haven't played seriously in a really long time

[icy breach]

Vet needs hp curio

[solid pond]

And I don't use

[wraith sphinx]

Finally someone else recommending rez speed

[solid pond]

Lol

[zealous wing]

officially 3/4 to poxbreaker

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-finally-good-food-chef-gif-11616250

[solid pond]

Rather have stamina curio over hp

[wraith sphinx]

Damn 😨 I've got like 82k kills left

[solid pond]

I'm sub 50k to PB iirc, finish it off with the British femboy

[icy breach]

Good for deadshot builds & less micromanaging of it

[solid pond]

I'm also not using deadshot xd

[wraith sphinx]

Never goon shirt but it says never deadshot instead

[solid pond]

Not gonna tank a second pox burster if I take HP curio so no point

[wraith sphinx]

I don't like that talent

It makes playing solo qps turbo ass

[icy breach]

But atleast you won’t get 1 shot; psyker does not need hp curio due to lower toughness max than vet & 10% dr talent

[solid pond]

Well yeah but you can reach that with a 5% hp

Rather than a curio

106 hp gang

[burnt maple]

vintage 50(1) staff

[solid pond]

Can't even dump stat correctly

Smh

[wind spruce]

imagine using right click on EK

[burnt maple]

it wasn't bad back when i got this lol, Warp Flurry would cover it

[zealous wing]

that right there is a good surge surge stave

[wind spruce]

CRINGE AND UNBASED

[solid pond]

What are you on about

[icy breach]

It might not be enough
If only there was a boi who would test h40 poxburster dmg on vet with just 5% hp

[wind spruce]

nvm im stupid

[solid pond]

It is enough

[wind spruce]

good jk

[solid pond]

I play it

Lol

H40 burster does 100 damage

[burnt maple]

i noticed there's still no -20% burster damage curio

[solid pond]

Or plasma

Or shotgunner

[burnt maple]

it's cool, we have pox hound and mutant

[zealous wing]

psykers have EE for those last two

[icy breach]

I prefer to have more hp; if you have 120 toughness you don’t need more tbh; its a sweetspot for h40 and vet can get 150+ so getting more hp will be better potentially due to chip dmg & lack of dr; all he has is tdr

[solid pond]

Make every class a psyker

[icy breach]

Pls no

Would be boring

[solid pond]

Gold prevent chip

[wind spruce]

kekw

[solid pond]

[icy breach]

It does but many things may happen

[solid pond]

You're saying this like I haven't run this goofy ah shit for months

I'd let you know glaring weaknesses

[icy breach]

And you won’t always have it since TA nerf & golden timer being nerfed too

[solid pond]

Like, it really doesn't appreciate dog modifier

[icy breach]

It was just my opinion (like that one dude in borderlands 2)

[solid pond]

Too many dog

[icy breach]

Or shooters… we need those…

[solid pond]

In my experience the things you die to generally aren't chip very often

Unless you count gunner as chip

Lol

Chips you down at mach 1

Sandblaster

[zealous wing]

best way ive heard it put is

you're perfectly fine, until youre REALLY not fine

[solid pond]

So I prefer stamina, both for moving and making up for the bad stamina of PS

[solid pond]

Yeah and I usually die to a crusher walking an overhead, a friendly shooting a barrel or someone not dealing with a burster

Mix in the occasional skill issue with ragers for flavour

[zealous wing]

ah ragers

[solid pond]

Assuming psyker doesn't just lmb

Which is skill issue not on my part

But his

Lmao

Crushers walking overheads is probably my favourite

[icy breach]

This a nice meme

[solid pond]

Tiny bit of stamina

[wind spruce]

all meme no damage

it may aswell actually be a hose bc it does nothing

[icy breach]

Go to a corner and think about your sorry ass

[wind spruce]

this better?

[icy breach]

That you can use to whip ppl atleast

[wind spruce]

wait i know what'll match your freak

[solid pond]

Its

Beautiful

[wind spruce]

WHOMST doesnt want to restore 20% toughness on crit kill?

how could that not be OP?!?

[solid pond]

It says 16

[icy breach]

Tbh its a good blessing

[wind spruce]

as if im not running ghost with this rubbish kekw

[solid pond]

Oh yeah that's a thing

[icy breach]

Weapon does alot of dmg on crit & weakspots, is a crit weapon too
I used it on zel with piety

[solid pond]

I love it on my meleeker

[pine tundra]

Im a newb to Inferno Psyker - does my soulblaze stacks gain bonus from Uncanny Strike on my dueling sword?

[solid pond]

Yes

[pine tundra]

Dang thats crazy, nice

[icy breach]

Best part is; the dmg of the shots is very small until you crit which usually kills the enemy & gives you the bonus

[solid pond]

Its rending applied to you, the person rather than the weapon

Uncanny is just a silly little guy

[pine tundra]

dumb question, does it matter if I aim my flames at enemies head?