#psyker-class

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nocturne wasp
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Between shock mine, crusher special, and hold the line everything is always on the ground

royal totem
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did i tell you i've failed a rolling steel AFTER stopping the train?

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lmao

graceful arch
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Just wish zealot didn't get fucked over so hard with it into blue stimm.

nocturne wasp
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It's my fave. I wish it had a mark closer to thammer's patterns but I make it work

graceful arch
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I've gotten used to the combo's

royal totem
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i'm too stupid to use anything that's not light spam or heavy spam

graceful arch
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I've just noticed I never use the single target heavies I only spam out pa light

nocturne wasp
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I use tech to reset my chain and do a light heavy for wide and heavy light for single target

graceful arch
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I do light heavy light light repeat

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For horde

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And pa light for single target

nocturne wasp
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Light, heavy hold block just long engugh to animation cancel, repeat

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Gaurantees perfect blocks

graceful arch
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You lose DPS that way.

plucky flax
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Probably another month or so you can still do it.

royal totem
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ok seems like nobody is around to help me with havoc 21 atm alright

graceful arch
plucky flax
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I can do havoc 21 if EU/USEast

sturdy reef
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the nuncio aquila can damage and bounce between enemies if you chuck it

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I gotta kill a boss with it now

graceful arch
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I nearly made double my usual wage the last 2 months with the hours they made me work.

royal totem
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i could just PF randoms but randoms keep deranking me ๐Ÿ™

sturdy reef
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I can do 1

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if u want

graceful arch
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I would help if I was at home

nocturne wasp
plucky flax
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Karien is going to possess and play instead of me so it's free win.

royal totem
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it's comsplex 21 with garden and stims

graceful arch
nocturne wasp
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I mean I'll help if you want me to, I'll bring my tankgrin so I'm not a hard carry

plucky flax
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21 is pretty free win tbh

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Stuff don't have a lot of hp there.

royal totem
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alright well sounds like i have people so i guess i'll inv and we can play lul

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@plucky flaxhow do i inv you? lul

plucky flax
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I am not in game. I'll request to join you. But can you set your match making to us east?

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I can't play west with 300 ping.

royal totem
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we can play on NA east or EU. im not good enough to notice a difference between servers

graceful arch
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Any sub 30 can be beaten with a stealth zealot with a knife, and a team decent enough to survive events.

sturdy reef
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I'll help too

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no, no need for stealth zealot lol

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and knife just prolongs games

plucky flax
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Up to you but us east better cos I'm the only eu person.

graceful arch
royal totem
sturdy reef
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I was switching chars

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try

strong gulch
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I learned that trappers can send a net out through their backs.

royal totem
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4th person? 4th person?

sturdy reef
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OH YEAH

plucky flax
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Is this based?!

sturdy reef
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Ive seen that

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its pretty based

royal totem
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do i PF a 4th or do i have a 4th here

strong gulch
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Also, sometimes if you get down and rescued on stairs, there's no visual difference between down and up except for your bottom right icon.

I died from that.

plucky flax
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1800 kinda expensive.

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I think I'll just buy 1 helm.

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Bruh 1 helm is 1400

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This feels like scam.

royal totem
strong gulch
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PS: feck this game

nocturne wasp
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Am I already in?

plucky flax
royal totem
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@nocturne wasphow confident are you? havoc just means less hp and less toughness

plucky flax
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FS kind of force you to buy the bundle for 400 extra.

nocturne wasp
royal totem
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ok i'll just take you

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i mean it's bet on you or bet on randoms

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LOL

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uhhh find me and join my strike team

plucky flax
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I am nothing without karien.

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So expect a loss.

nocturne wasp
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Don't let my arb game play fool you that build is meant to be played like a maniac

royal totem
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i wouldnt know. i mean train is chaos so train is also kinda whatevs

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.....check terminal please

plucky flax
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Is this the right person?

royal totem
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somebody not eligible

royal totem
analog agate
strong gulch
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Hi diabolic.

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long time no see

analog agate
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Hello! I have been playing a ton of bf6. I will try the new map and new class

strong gulch
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Is arby new or do you mean hive scum?

analog agate
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Hive

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I got arby to a 70-80.

strong gulch
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Gotcha!

tulip kettle
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servers really are doodoo rn

strong gulch
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Yeah I'm mad because servers bad.

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Having myself a moody about.

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It

potent echo
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Anyone gets the game freezing everytime you boot up the mission select the first time every session

tulip kettle
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gonna go play age of empires vs my own PC so no lag, problem solved.

royal totem
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@plucky flax thank you!

plucky flax
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Wasn't me it was karien.

royal totem
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@sturdy reef thank you also

sturdy reef
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np

royal totem
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@nocturne wasp well there's an experience of havoc for you lol

nocturne wasp
royal totem
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only thing i'm gonna tell you is if somebody is doing the data interrogator and you're an ogryn just stand on top of them and enemies will hit you instead so it won't get interrupted

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or do it yourself since Ogryns can't get interrupted while doing them by little melee attacks

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important when the other two are fighting near the front

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otherwise you did fineeeeee

nocturne wasp
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Haha yeah I've been crutching arb shock mine for those so much I forgot what to do without it

nocturne wasp
royal totem
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i got interrupted 3 times in a row and i was losing my shit LOL

nocturne wasp
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I feel that 100% on me

plucky flax
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Blame karien.

royal totem
graceful arch
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How did havocs go

nocturne wasp
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We winded

royal totem
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i was playing running simulator

graceful arch
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I'm fucking sleepy as shit but gotta pack my shit and drive home.

royal totem
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i don't think i even managed to kill that many specials or anything

nocturne wasp
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I was being a liability adhd ogryn

royal totem
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playing with agent feels a lot like playing with Six ._. i feel like i do nothing in the game

graceful arch
graceful arch
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I will never be top damage unless my entire team dies.

royal totem
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i will never be top damage even if i clutch ๐Ÿ™

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i don't have the scoreboard mod cuz i feel like i'd just be sad

plucky flax
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I'm ahead of six when I play with him. SadgeCry

candid temple
graceful arch
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I like being able to see who is hogging all the ammo pickups

candid temple
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it can mean that, but usually it's just build/role choice that impacts it

royal totem
candid temple
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install nameplates/psykernautics, win special kills every time.

hackerman

royal totem
nocturne wasp
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I hate scoreboards.
Give me a big ahh ๐Ÿ‡ผ or ๐Ÿ‡ฑ and Im happy

graceful arch
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I will usually have least damage taken, and top out on lessers killed unless we have a flame staff user.

royal totem
plucky flax
graceful arch
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I will usually be second most or most on specials and most on ranged elites.

candid temple
plucky flax
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Best mobility in game.

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On other classes well just sprint more I guess.

candid temple
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ribbing is expected though KEKW_ogryn

graceful arch
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I love to swap slide.

royal totem
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also i think that's the fastest round of havoc i've ever won ._.

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was a bit concerned about my ammo running out at one point but i never ran out so it's ok

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i do feel shovel feels a bit nicer than taxe though

graceful arch
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I love tac axe up until I have to solo a horde of pox walkers.

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Then I wish I had literally any other weapon

royal totem
candid temple
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Yet you said you hated scoreboards kappapeek

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Curious KEKW_ogryn

royal totem
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@nocturne wasp btw i've seen randoms way worse than you so i think you're doing fine

nocturne wasp
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Yes because they are a function of giving a shit

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You do not need scoreboard when no shits given

nocturne wasp
graceful arch
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But I want to know who to blame for there being no ammo pickups on the map

royal totem
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i still remember the 3 wound curio Ogryn

graceful arch
nocturne wasp
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I am also in permanent fuck around mode because finding out Is hilarious to me

graceful arch
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I need to do more limit testing.

royal totem
nocturne wasp
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Or just some dude who has 1 round missing and grabs the bag anyways

royal totem
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my friend keeps saying he's seen worse players than me in h40 but i think he's lying lmao

graceful arch
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No I have seen people who shouldn't be playing above malice in 40 party finders.

nocturne wasp
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Quantum mechanics

graceful arch
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They're probably not wrong

royal totem
nocturne wasp
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Throw trash at a wall enough times it will evntually phase through

graceful arch
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I refuse to believe it

nocturne wasp
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an infinite amount of times*

royal totem
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i stopped playing with my friend cuz i felt really bad deranking him

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but then he deranked from 35 back down to 26 anyways ._.

graceful arch
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I find most people have a severe lack of fundamentals in all difficulties in this game.

nocturne wasp
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That's not how ride or die works

graceful arch
royal totem
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i learned gunners in havoc 34 really really fucking hurt T__T

graceful arch
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I was assignment rank 36 3-4 weeks ago

brittle galleon
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is defense or warp resist a better dump stat for the blazeforce greatsword?

graceful arch
royal totem
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everything for psyker is warp resist dump except voidstrike

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(there's a psyker that dumps blast radius on trauma instead of WR but we're not gonna talk about that)

royal totem
graceful arch
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Eh if you can follow instructions and stick to the team like glue you are already surpassing 50% of randoms.

royal totem
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i can push poxbursters

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90% of the time

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the last 10% they phase through me and boom right behind me

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๐Ÿ™

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today i did something i used to be too scared to do

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i melee hit a burgle a few times

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i used to exclusively shoot burgles ._.

nocturne wasp
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I hit it in the back with grenadegun special

graceful arch
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Burgle is so poorly designed

royal totem
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how so?

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i've never thought of burgles that way

graceful arch
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It's just severely cruel on certain sections of certain maps

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Oubliette tunnel is one spot where burgle just sucks.

royal totem
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ah yeah ok i get that

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yeah

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i dropped the ammo box at a bad time cuz i needed grenades to throw at a chaos spawn

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plz forgive me lmao

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chaos spawn is the one boss i really really don't want to get close to

nocturne wasp
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I was once eaten by Burgle, and than spat out in a tiny 3x5 room where enemies were meant to spawn. But they stopped spawning so the door wouldnt open and I was trapped

candid temple
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I guess it's the vt2 experience, but for me cs is easiest

plucky flax
candid temple
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basically same moveset as in vt2

graceful arch
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Chaos spawn isn't bad.

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But plogryn is def easier

royal totem
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i didn't play vt2

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i'll melee a plogryn sure

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but i'm just afraid of chaos spawn

graceful arch
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Why?

royal totem
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one tried to eat me earlier!

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i don't like being chewed on!

candid temple
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just dodge the grab kappapeek

royal totem
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i'm not a chew toy

graceful arch
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If it locks on to you you just got to block and dodge.

candid temple
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you don't fear burgle more then?

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he literally swllows you disgust

royal totem
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no. burgles as long as you dodge puke you're good

brittle galleon
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okay uh i feel sorta like a simpleton asking this but what is that bar that appears when I have the BFG on

royal totem
brittle galleon
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ohhh i see

nocturne wasp
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I feel bad for Burgle so I always run in to give them hugs

royal totem
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i think

brittle galleon
candid temple
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I'm guessing acronym for fgs in some language

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in English it seems kappapeek

royal totem
brittle galleon
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ah yes, english

nocturne wasp
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If my mic was working you would have heard me shout "PUPPY!" when they spawned

zealous wing
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Big Fucking Greatsword*

plucky flax
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Big sword / fgs.

candid temple
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It's not even that big KEKcry

plucky flax
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It's the biggest one we can get right now. SadgeCry

zealous wing
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its bigger than zealots

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thats all that matters

candid temple
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I want to have shortest height psykerr, who uses warp strength to wield a big slab of metal

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and by big slab, I mean ogryn height

plucky flax
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Zealots when our big sword is better than theirs. Smadge

nocturne wasp
zealous wing
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thats when they say size doesnt matter

royal totem
potent echo
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I love big swords

royal totem
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the nice thing about shovel vs taxe though is i can beat up hordes

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hmmm......

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maybe.....i keep using shovel

zealous wing
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big swords, and average knives, my cup of tea

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taxe can beat up hordes too loregryn

royal totem
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i feel like taxe is slower at beating up hordes. or i'm just dogshit at it

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who knows

potent echo
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Vet needs a proper 2H melee

royal totem
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both could be true

brittle galleon
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ok final question for BFGS, what are the marks good for?

zealous wing
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i mean taxe isnt fucking GOATED at hordes like an FGS, but

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6 is the best mark

potent echo
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6 has highest boss damage

zealous wing
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but they both do the same thing, just different patterns

potent echo
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8 needs to do a combo and that loses dps

royal totem
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for somebody that hangs out mostly in psyker chat i play no psyker

polar flower
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Fuck Croatia

zealous wing
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8 needs a push attack to access stab, 6 h2 is a stab, accessed from h1 > h2, or l1 > h2

candid temple
royal totem
polar flower
candid temple
royal totem
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i don't play psyker cuz all my friends are psykers

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i just arb zealot and i guess now i do a bit of vet

zealous wing
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i wonder how well a 4 psyker h40 team would go if it was planned out, 1 inferno, 1 rending trauma, 1 gunker, 1 meleeker

brittle galleon
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is the recon lasgun the super fast firing one?

royal totem
zealous wing
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if you choose the right mark, yeah

brittle galleon
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which mark

zealous wing
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the torrent one

royal totem
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isn't it the one that says torrent?

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sometimes i think about playing recon vet but i think that would make me do the worst things ever

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like just pew pew no anything else

potent echo
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Ever since they changed the recon marks it's over

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I think it's 6d.....?

royal totem
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discord refuses to load that for me

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sadge

zealous wing
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wait for it, worth it

royal totem
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Oh ok that

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Yeah ive had similar results b4

plucky flax
royal totem
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Im also a lil uncertain how it does vs specials

plucky flax
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Fastest one with most ammo is best one

brittle galleon
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ohooooo baby i love this gun

royal totem
zealous wing
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as a gunker, not bad

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definitely easier to aim than vraks,

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damage understandably lower tho, so it can take a bit more, but, also, brrrrrrr

graceful arch
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Time to go home and sleep atleast 6 hours

zealous wing
royal totem
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Hmmm now i want to try reconlas vet

royal totem
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Also...i in bed now

torn kernel
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Henlo psyker chat it's time for my bimonthly check in

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Is voidstrike buffed yet

long saddle
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no

patent jacinth
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No

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You missed the hive scum crashouts though

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Extremely entertaining

flint wave
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what does the 10% cdr for psykers do? is it that substantial?

long saddle
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ig everything is buffed if you count psyker having a better tree

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it's an aura

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everyone gets it in coherency

patent jacinth
dusk wren
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10% cooldown reduction on your ability

torn kernel
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I can imagine KEKW_ogryn

long saddle
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if your ability is more important than extra crit it's useful

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but you usually warp siphon then anyway

torn kernel
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Max crit or bust tbh

torn kernel
patent jacinth
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Yes

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They got buffed again

torn kernel
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Holy fuck

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Last time i played was uhhhh

patent jacinth
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Gaze has constant regen now

torn kernel
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Like a month before arby

torn kernel
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I'm pogging so hard rn i'm reinstalling tonight

patent jacinth
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They have to buff it every patch somehow

long saddle
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zealot, vet, and psyker got redone trees

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they all "function" like ogryn and arby now

patent jacinth
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Oh yeah zealot escaped hell

long saddle
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if hell was one viable build ye

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take knives to get good talents lol

patent jacinth
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But yeah melee psyker got buffed for the 4949595th update in a row

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Enjoy

flint wave
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empyric shock any good on the inferno?

patent jacinth
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What's that do

flint wave
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gain warp damage on yer primary attacks, on krills

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for like, 10s

torn kernel
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Nah

patent jacinth
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Idk I hate inferno

torn kernel
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You're gonna wanna max out the DoT for inferno

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Not direct damage iirc

flint wave
torn kernel
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I forgor ๐Ÿ’€

flint wave
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ride on the train ๐Ÿ’€

torn kernel
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Real

long saddle
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empyric shock is only really for surge surge

dull scroll
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also you don't have to kill to gain that, it's a buff you put on things hit by your primary

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observe its magic:

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DISREGARD DEFENSE, ACQUIRE OFFENSE, DOWN WITH BUBBLE META, CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP

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worn beacon
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Fellas tell me why do many people prefer Mk6 covenanto over mk8?

wind spruce
worn beacon
wind spruce
# worn beacon Elaborate

it has a "simpler" horde clear pattern because you can just spam L1 without there being a strikedown in the combo

long saddle
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that's the other way around tho?

wind spruce
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oh my bad i cant read

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people prefer the mk6 because they're better at the game

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because it has better single target damage

worn beacon
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I thought mk8 PA into heavy was better

wind spruce
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no

long saddle
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I do see some do the push attack poke p well on mk8, but mk6 is easier for good heavies

wind spruce
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its slower, janky to pull off in high stress situations and generates peril when you might not want it to

long saddle
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and canceling for the horde clear is fine

wind spruce
flint wave
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saved the run twice tho, happy wit that KEKW_ogryn

worn beacon
dull scroll
late yew
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i want try to make scrier fire trauma build

flint wave
late yew
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almost 30% difference

flint wave
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throw a flash and charge in without a thought, ride or die typa friend

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proceeds to get netted

summer prairie
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People need to stop posting healing map scores as evidence of anything, just saying in general, not referring to any scoreboards above. Though even normal scoreboards are barely any evidence for a single build aspect being good

acoustic jacinth
dull scroll
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here is another arby scoreboard:

late yew
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also yeah, wtf are those damage numbers, what is this game mode

acoustic jacinth
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EO + BTL is a potent mix for dps

summer prairie
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Even what your team is doing plays a bigger role than your build

acoustic jacinth
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Though forceful is safer and more consistent

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In most pugs i imagine myself to be alone, because i technically am KEKW_ogryn

dull scroll
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but yes, it's pretty much the class I have seen that can consistently compete with psykers somewhat on damage, even on heal maps, at least in my personal experience

long saddle
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shovel db vet can

acoustic jacinth
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There's plenty of examples that can. You just see arbs more because it's easier and more accessible

summer prairie
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If your whole team is high DPS, kraks etc, the shriek psyker might be barely ahead even on a healing map

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If at all, it's somewhat random

dull scroll
# long saddle shovel db vet can

I have seen 3 mil vids of that vet build, but a lot of people played it in my games and they couldn't get close, but arbies in my games can, so ๐Ÿคท

long saddle
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but is it really a competition in havoc tho if you all contribute to actually winning

acoustic jacinth
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Well yes, arb is going to be considerably easier to pull that damage off with

long saddle
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but ye it's a "can"

dull scroll
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lol, all that left for fun in h40 for a lot of people is a psedu competition

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and meme'ing meme builds

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because for a team of 4 experienced players dead set on winning you just farm 40s and it's boring

acoustic jacinth
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Like, ever

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It is highly competitive even between each other

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Has been for a while

dull scroll
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what else is there left other than generate big scoreboard numbers, or meme 4x melee psykers ๐Ÿ˜”

long saddle
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I mean I only did havoc 40 with randoms so, haven't done any this reset

acoustic jacinth
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Bigger number unga bunga

long saddle
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it's not my main mode

late yew
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I tried to get into havoc, but it has same problem weaves had

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hard to find a party

quartz barn
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Heavily depends on the tier

long saddle
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most of my havocs are also bog standard psyker so I was never really hurting for dmg and kills

quartz barn
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Everything under 25 is kinda whatever and you usually get people like me who join for the carry penance

long saddle
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middle havoc is not fun for anyone

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it's heresy level

quartz barn
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But 25 - 35 is ass because you have a mix of people who are either just bad or "supposedly good" people

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35 - 40 is alright but you either have to make your own lobby or have some meta slave loadout to get invited

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And making your own lobby sucks imo due to pub skill rng

late yew
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how much harder havoc is compared to auric?

hallow finch
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Auric is easy

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So is anything below h30

long saddle
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the jump is deceptive

quartz barn
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Auric is damnation but with higher elite/special spawns

long saddle
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h40 has so many "hidden" stuff

late yew
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like what

quartz barn
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Emp fading light 1 is basically damn+, fading light 2 (h30+) is damn++

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So more enemies, you take more dmg, less ammo spawns

dull scroll
long saddle
quartz barn
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Add all the other modifiers like armor hordes, dh rituals, healing aura enemies, more monsters, stims etc

long saddle
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full breakdown

quartz barn
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Main issue imo is that everything base game just feels braindead easy after enough havoc Sitgryn

dull scroll
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actually that's probably missing things on the mob side

quartz barn
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Or what does the 5 stand for

dull scroll
long saddle
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emp fading is just 2 tiers of a modifier

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it's not scaling

quartz barn
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I know, im just thinking of the og number chart that fs shared on the havoc release

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Most of those never made it into the game because it went up to fading light 7

long saddle
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some go up to 7 yes

hallow finch
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Blue stims can go fuck themselves

quartz barn
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Ye i kinda figured they implemented some after the overhaul

long saddle
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I think these were always there

quartz barn
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Never seen this breakdown tho, took a big break not too long ago

long saddle
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it's from the link I posted earlier

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has all mission modifiers as well

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the only change to modifiers was fading light 2 iirc

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then new modifiers and clearance overhaul

summer prairie
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The guide doesn't mention resistance changes, which in this context refers mostly to specialist pacing. There's some divergence at least at resistance 6 (high havoc and auric high intensity)

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I guess it mentions "more spawns" under Emperor's Fading light

late yew
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Ok yeah, hard to find a party for havoc

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literally only 3 lobbies open

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and 2 of them probably won't accept me since i never did anything above 18

pastel bough
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whats the horde clear combo for knife

tulip kettle
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Press light attack a lot.

pastel bough
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oh is that rly it?

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ty

tulip kettle
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Mk6 is different as it has cleaving horizontal heavy but I think nobody uses that one really idk

late yew
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well 6 can do second heavy into light

pastel bough
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im not a knife player until today so im learning, and im using 6

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should i change

summer prairie
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I think most psykers use mk6

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might still spam lights though

late yew
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why would psyker use a knife

long saddle
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mk6 heavie was fun when charged strike was cracked for a minute

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why would anyone not use a knife

pastel bough
long saddle
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hard to go wrong with uncanny and a bunch of bleeds

obtuse dome
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The other one is light spam

pastel bough
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push attack?

obtuse dome
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I take mercy killer amd the bleed thing

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Yeah the shove you know?

pastel bough
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yea

late yew
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he asked about horde

pastel bough
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i mean any info is good, but yea

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ur right

obtuse dome
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That is for horde and everythingKEKW_ogryn

late yew
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... no?

obtuse dome
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Im forrealKEKW_ogryn

late yew
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push attack does not deal with horde

obtuse dome
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Yu uh

tulip kettle
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And psyker knife is very much a why use this when we have better choices. And yeah push attack is not for horde

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It's significantly slower

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So "nu uh"

long saddle
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I mostly run knife for movement so

obtuse dome
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U can do it infinetly with the knife

tulip kettle
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You want mobility run DS5

obtuse dome
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So its infact good

tulip kettle
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It's slower

pastel bough
tulip kettle
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So it's in fact worse

obtuse dome
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So its not worse

tulip kettle
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Press dodge lil bro

obtuse dome
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You could also just not use mk6

tulip kettle
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Knife is best on bleed synergy classes, psyker doesn't have that

summer prairie
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knife and ds5 have the same sprinting speed

tulip kettle
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So vet and zealot

pastel bough
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alright thanks, ill practice knife on themn

obtuse dome
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Knife in psyker is really good and safe if you dont wanna use melee

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As a safe option

tulip kettle
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On psyker, as syllo said, just use DS5 if you want it for mobility

obtuse dome
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Nah

pastel bough
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im trying not to use DS on any class

tulip kettle
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Same speed better dodges

obtuse dome
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Ds is great dodoo

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Crutch weapon

tulip kettle
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DS5 is not the meta DS and far from crutch

pastel bough
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yeah im trying to get past relying on DS

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i like GS but im not thta good yet

tulip kettle
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But it has better mobility than knife

obtuse dome
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Its pretty much the exact same lmaoKEKW_ogryn duelling sword apologists

tulip kettle
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DS4 is meta. DS5 is not

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They are not even close

pastel bough
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dont care about meta

obtuse dome
tulip kettle
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Different move sets and different stats

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Essentially completely different weapons

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Same sprint as knife but longer dodges

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On DS5

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And again, knife on psyker is the weakest of the classes that can take it. It's just carpal tunnel - the game.

pastel bough
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ya i already got wrist pain, i need more

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artist woes

late yew
tulip kettle
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I mean, it's just, fine. Crits are good on psyker. But I agree with you really. For mobility there's better options. For damage there's better options.

pastel bough
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i appreciate the insight

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whats good underneath DS then, i guess

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i will learn knife on zealot

acoustic jacinth
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I like mk2 DS for the sheer reason of my krieger looking good KEKW_ogryn otherwise i'd be playing mk4

tulip kettle
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MK4 is objectively the best and the one everyone complains about. The other 2 are cool, and off meta because worse. Because apparently playing meta is not cool.

acoustic jacinth
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Mk4 is the best no doubt

pastel bough
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meta is fine imo

acoustic jacinth
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Doesn't take too much brain to figure that out

tulip kettle
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And on psyker, best melee is FGS Mk6 for most use cases

pastel bough
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i just want to be able to compromise if one gets nerfed

acoustic jacinth
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Looping thrusts

acoustic jacinth
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I use

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Mk6 fgs on my EK

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Deimos force on inferno

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For that uncanny

tulip kettle
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Yup

acoustic jacinth
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And well, it puts crusher hordes on their ass

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Though lately ive been feeling bored so i just MIGHT pick up voidstrike, finally

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Surge and warp nexus on it likely

tulip kettle
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Deimos/obscuras if your build needs uncanny, FGS if it doesnt

acoustic jacinth
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Not playing SG + DD though

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I'll stick to shriek meta

summer prairie
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knife is slightly less mobile but the higher crit and attack speed is good for EE safety and bleed is fine for bosses

pastel bough
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fgs 6 nice, gotta learn, whats a good ranged

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to compliment

acoustic jacinth
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You doing meleeker?

tulip kettle
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Most things

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Just not inferno

pastel bough
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nything but inferno

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yea

acoustic jacinth
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Oh

pastel bough
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ill do whatever

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im already too inferno deep

long saddle
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inferno is only boring when you bubble

acoustic jacinth
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Well for meleeker i run laspistol + mk6 fgs, but you certainly don't have to

tulip kettle
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Inferno just wants uncanny is all

late yew
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Does savage sweep affect amount of targets hit by evi special?

tulip kettle
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Laspiztol works great

acoustic jacinth
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Even if you have perfect strike which gives incredibly cleave

long saddle
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even when horizontal

late yew
acoustic jacinth
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Evisc special cannot eviscerate more than 1 tatget at a time. Wdym

long saddle
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why would you special and expect to hit several things anyway

acoustic jacinth
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Well, that too

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Special is reserved for ogryns/bosses

long saddle
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it can be useful vs mutants

late yew
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1 elite/special, it does cleave through horde

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i am thinking to use bloodthirsty again, i did it long time ago and it was fun

long saddle
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yeah but it doesn't latch on to random hordes

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so why special

tulip kettle
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Did I hit my head and fall into zel chat

long saddle
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zealot is just not zealot

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so I understand ppl asking in literally any other chat lol

tulip kettle
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Me too

pastel bough
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hows psyk and catachan?

long saddle
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like you're not gonna get an answer most of the time

tulip kettle
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I mean, psyker is the best user of devil's claw

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But it's still devil's claw

late yew
pastel bough
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assuming dc is not that pog?

late yew
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it one-shots most relevant targets with all the martyr bonuses

tulip kettle
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Its very poop.

late yew
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And one-shots most others on parry

tulip kettle
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It has 1 gimmick - spamming parries into rager blobs

pastel bough
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true, that does look fun but yea

tulip kettle
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And psyker can make it cost peril

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But it has just god awful damage and adms

late yew
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dclaw has similar damage stats to heavy sword

long saddle
tulip kettle
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Yup

late yew
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i want to parry goddamit

tulip kettle
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Oh I have 100% damage bonus and this weapon is good actually

candid temple
tulip kettle
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DS parry and dclaw parry are different tbh

late yew
tulip kettle
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DS parry is not "I spam this button and live"

late yew
long saddle
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I've never gotten in to the whole parry thing

late yew
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DClaw having parry actually annoys me

marble crater
late yew
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It is fuckn machete

tulip kettle
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Factual

late yew
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it has no actual crossguard

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which makes it automatically shit for parryinh

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realistically speaking

tulip kettle
late yew
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also for full immersion

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Me, looking at martyr build:

long saddle
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cropped zorn, really?

pastel bough
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sorry guys, i appreciate the info but i was mid match. if running fgs, damnation and auric for now, whats a good ranged pair

late yew
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It is just Yvrein blushing

tulip kettle
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Literally anything that isn't imferno

marble crater
long saddle
pastel bough
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that helps me more tbh

late yew
tulip kettle
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Do a right side tree build with assail and scriers. Take a recon lasgun mk12 or a laspistol for more crit stuff

late yew
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i only hear baseless accusation

long saddle
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i prefer being unbanned

late yew
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Recon psyker annoys me on spiritual level

late yew
tulip kettle
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Recon lasgun mk12 with inferno, dumdum, flak and crit chance

late yew
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is not inferno actual poop

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I tried to use it a lot on vet

tulip kettle
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Laspistol is technically better than recon but worse if you have a head clicking skissue like me

late yew
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burn damage then like 1/6 of total damage

tulip kettle
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Infernus very good on recon las

tulip kettle
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Hit the gunner with the brrt then go on to the next

late yew
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making burn wasted

tulip kettle
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You max stack it stupid quick and let it actually do it's dmg which makes it ammo efficient

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Its also good DPS into bosses

late yew
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what about lack of ammo

tulip kettle
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?

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The whole point is the infernus makes the recon much more ammo efficient into gunner and reaper blobs, which is specifically what it's for on gunker

quartz barn
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Unless you spam it into hordes you dont run out of ammo, thing has 900+ bullets

long saddle
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all ammo restores the same amount from ammo packs, it's just percantages

wind spruce
long saddle
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and yes you can just stop shooting

late yew
long saddle
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why are you still going on about it

late yew
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What

long saddle
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idc

late yew
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what do you mean stop shooting

wind spruce
late yew
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What

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how one does stop shooting

long saddle
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it seems that ammo is a you problem

tulip kettle
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Shoot each of the 20 gunners a lil bit, keep EE active and kill em all.

late yew
tulip kettle
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No

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It's not worth it

late yew
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i even fuckn posted shooting orc

tulip kettle
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True aim is for things like revolver

long saddle
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jokes are usually funny

tulip kettle
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Voidstrike

quartz barn
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Ngl i just hold lmb on recon and grab all the ammo

wind spruce
quartz barn
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Pubs are usually fine with it as long as you pull your weight / carry hard enough

tulip kettle
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Yup it's just "my revolver always crits the special" with assail

long saddle
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ammo is only a problem if everyone is low

tulip kettle
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If you want to spam recon into everything just play vet

long saddle
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like just keep a track of what your teammates have

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not hard to be a good sport

tulip kettle
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On psyker it's a tool to complement your bigly sword on stuff that's killing you with bullets that you can't reach

quartz barn
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Just drop it whenever, everyone will always be topped off

long saddle
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I love when I drop ammo packs early and somehow it's already empty when I want to use it a bit later

late yew
long saddle
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only time I go ammo pack crazy is when field improv is active and I want to spam grenades at a finale

tulip kettle
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Because it's worse DPS than dumdum infernus, plus the whole reason for recon is because I can't click heads good

long saddle
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there is not a lack of crits on SG recon las

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or even without

summer prairie
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with SG+dd+infernus you've to shoot at a reaper for like half a second to kill it

tulip kettle
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If I could click heads good I would use laspistol

summer prairie
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pretty good

late yew
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I did use a lot of laspistol

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want to try somethig new

tulip kettle
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Then try iags.

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They are just, worse, but it's w/e

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Plus vraks iag has funny haha 1 mag a boss in 5 seconds

long saddle
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bolt pistol can be fun on psyker

late yew
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hm?

tulip kettle
late yew
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it is moving after all

tulip kettle
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you just said

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you could click heads

late yew
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And that is bon

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Who is easier to hit than other b osses

late yew
tulip kettle
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so cick the big orange blob on its back

late yew
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Guess what, genius, clicking head once or twice and clicking it 50+ times are different things

wind spruce
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And true aim isn't even that good

tulip kettle
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but also dont take true aim with recon lasgun.

wind spruce
tulip kettle
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even then

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thing is

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if you would have crit anyway when true aim procs

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you just lose it

wind spruce
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Yeah

tulip kettle
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and you already have an absurd crit rate

wind spruce
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You lose like 40% of its effectiveness in scriers

tulip kettle
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so youre losing most of your procs that you would get from it. its just a wasted talent

wind spruce
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True aim with 73.5% crit and surge surge only takes you up to 79% crit

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Idk why I tested that lmao

tulip kettle
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true aim is really for those weapons that you want to swap to quickly and shoot one shot off and know it will crit and kill the thing you shoot

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like bistol or revolver or maybe voidstrike

wind spruce
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Flechette manstopper shotgun pogryn

tulip kettle
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even that is questionable, but sure for the meme value

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i have like a 65% crit rate on blaze trauma without it

long saddle
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missing voidstrikes when you go for heads is very sad

wind spruce
quartz barn
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Why is dbarrel shotty so bad...

long saddle
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you're not using it on vet

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with WS

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just go combat shotgun on psyker

wind spruce
long saddle
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I always run warp unbound because I overload if I don't

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because of muscle memory

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I did take it off once and I did it three times in a game

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then just put it back

wind spruce
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Plus if you get like 3 casts off before hitting critical unless you're coping with ER

tulip kettle
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with a piety zealot you have 67.5% crit rate without scriers on blazing trauma

wind spruce
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Remove EP give us critmaxxing

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Would enable so many builds

tulip kettle
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and also remove smykering at the same time

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i like this suggestion.

wind spruce
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Big wins

long saddle
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I've been having fun with EP assail lately

late yew
wind spruce
late yew
tulip kettle
#

no for the reasons we discussed

long saddle
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no?

tulip kettle
#

and recon las has pretty high spread

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so you wont hit heads even if youre aiming at them

late yew
long saddle
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I mean you can staff SG with anything but inferno so

tulip kettle
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you are losing huge damage potential by not taking WU on staff builds

long saddle
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I do at least

tulip kettle
#

they are its main use case

late yew
wind spruce
# late yew Don't they benefit each other?

You hit a head shot and get one stack of true aim and HH. Do it again four times. They both give you a crit at once.

You start stacking both again, oh wow I just crit when they were at 3 stacks. Now head hunter has reset and true aim is still at 3 stacks.

wind spruce
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Make sense?

tulip kettle
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its good for the first second or so

late yew
tulip kettle
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its terrible as soon as you are being surpressed or firing for extended periods into gunner blobs

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which is what its for

late yew
#

never in my 700 hours of game i was concerned with suppression

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I literally forget this mechanic exists

summer prairie
#

what weapon are we talking about here

late yew
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it is that much irrelevant

tulip kettle
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recon lasgun

wind spruce
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Suppression doesn't exist in scriers

tulip kettle
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i said it has relatively high spread when firing for extended periods or being surpressed, which it does.

summer prairie
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I've never noticed any spread

long saddle
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which is good, full acc full auto is overkill in terms of balance

wind spruce
#

I haven't used recon for months but isn't it extremely accurate when not hip firing?

tulip kettle
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i ca try to show you some clips

late yew
#

talking about headshotting bosses again, it is way harder to headshot them, their relative hitbox is smaller, and they move much more than any other target

wind spruce
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Like borderline pin point

tulip kettle
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yes its very accurate at first

acoustic jacinth
#

Contrary to popularity i love the MkXIV recon las

tulip kettle
#

but when theres 20 gunners and they are shooting back you will see that the shots are spreading

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and the reason for using MK12 is the fire rate = more frequent crits = more EE and infernus procs

wind spruce
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Not if you're in scriers which you should be

tulip kettle
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not every build runs scriers

wind spruce
#

Eww

acoustic jacinth
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I only play staff psyker or meleeker

tulip kettle
#

bubble knight is a thing

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meleeker IS gunker

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they are one and the same

acoustic jacinth
#

Ehhh

wind spruce
#

Stay in your bubble, bubble boy

long saddle
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I think I'm 60/30/10 spread on SG/shriek/bubble

tulip kettle
#

the only real differences is "do i take BCoB" tbh

acoustic jacinth
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To some extent ig, due to SG and DD, though i wouldn't know how people build up to it. For a secondary on meleeker i'm either taking surge EK or a laspistol at most

wind spruce
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Not taking BCoB makes me cry

long saddle
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that's me

tulip kettle
#

sometimes it just, doesnt matter

wind spruce
#

Rotten armour I drop it

long saddle
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I think I'm only bcob on one build

wind spruce
#

Not getting enough weakspot kills for it to be effective

tulip kettle
#

its also not that good in lower difficulty

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theres just not enough enemies for it to be worthwhile

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just take WU and use scriers again

wind spruce
#

Lower difficulty like heresy/malice or auric/mael?

long saddle
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yes but who willingly plays lower difficulties

tulip kettle
#

auric

wind spruce
#

Lol

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That's not remotely true man

tulip kettle
#

sorry auric is what i mean by "lower difficulty" my bad

wind spruce
#

BCoB is strong as hell in auric/auric mael

tulip kettle
#

dude the hordes are like 20 poxwalkers

long saddle
#

no?

wind spruce
#

It's not for hordes

tulip kettle
#

and they die without those extra seconds in scriers

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dont need em

acoustic jacinth
long saddle
#

I just don't bother durationmaxxing on SG

tulip kettle
#

but BCoB lowers your peril when you want it to be maxxed

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

right and then scriers hits max

long saddle
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like I'd rather be able to have it active close to 100% from just activating it again

tulip kettle
#

and you instantly start quelling your peril away

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and then you press scriers

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and youre back to 0 peril

#

ew

wind spruce
#

And then you weave an assail or two

tulip kettle
#

muh warp rider

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muh unstable

wind spruce
#

Literally between weapon swings

marble crater
#

So much work when you can just smite to stay at high peril all the time

wind spruce
#

And for that time you're below 50% you're in scriers AND the 10s linger

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Which is simply stronger than UP and WR

tulip kettle
#

false

wind spruce
#

Math hard

late yew
#

smite with scrier is funny

#

what that supposed to mean

dusk wren
#

it means you should always use that build

tulip kettle
#

yes

acoustic jacinth
#

LMAO

tulip kettle
#

use it every time

acoustic jacinth
#

Use it every time, free slurs from the local darktide populace

tulip kettle
#

ill only push bursters into you a little bit

acoustic jacinth
#

DESERVED

#

Amazing clip

tulip kettle
#

TL 908 true survivor SG smiting btw

late yew
tulip kettle
#

fuck off and blocked

late yew
tulip kettle
#

using demographics as slurs is low intelligence shit. be better.

late yew
#

Every slur is offensive

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that's why it is a slur

wind spruce
marble crater
#

People like the Fr*nch?

wind spruce
#

He didn't just say you shouldn't say offensive things

zinc phoenix
obtuse dome
wind spruce
zinc phoenix
#

No bloc, only attac

tulip kettle
#

well, calling frogs "people" is a stretch to begin with

zinc phoenix
#

Woah woah woah demographic attacks

tulip kettle
#

i prefer "cheese eating surrender monkey"

late yew
tulip kettle
#

its a meme

late yew
#

Guess what

#

so is "it is gae"

zinc phoenix
#

This meme hurts French feelings

tulip kettle
#

indeed

marble crater
tulip kettle
#

factual

zinc phoenix
#

I see it is the Animal Farm model of justice

tulip kettle
#

all europeans hate each other

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and we all hate the french the most

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its why we are so united

late yew
#

ok i see it is ok for you to use "Demographic slurs" (who even came up with this) because it is meme
It is not ok for me to use them because it is low intelligence
I see i see

wind spruce
#

There's no changing you

tulip kettle
#

omg dude how low IQ are you

quartz barn
late yew
marble crater
quartz barn
#

France is 2nd place

long saddle
#

the only fun thing about making fun of the french is that they call it racism

zinc phoenix
tulip kettle
#

factual and based

#

and again the french arent a demographic

tulip kettle
#

they arent people and dont have rights

late yew
wind spruce
long saddle
#

yes, but they think they're marginalized as a western european country

tulip kettle
#

(this is clearly a joke and i love the french and have been to france many times)

zinc phoenix
#

Australians are Austrians with toilets

late yew
long saddle
#

that's why it's funny to make fun of them

proper spoke
#

What's with the low IQ talk? People with high IQs can be racist dirtbags too

long saddle
#

because they react poorly

obtuse dome
tulip kettle
#

i mean

#

paris stinks

quartz barn
obtuse dome
#

French are legit insufferable peopleKEKW_ogryn

tulip kettle
#

cant lie

late yew
marble crater
tulip kettle
#

they wash their streets by backing up the sewers

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which is... questionable.

wind spruce
long saddle
late yew
wind spruce
zinc phoenix
proper spoke
late yew
quartz barn
#

Try?

wind spruce
late yew
proper spoke
late yew
#

I am making same mistake again

long saddle
#

also are they admitting they're racist KEKW_ogryn

zinc phoenix
wind spruce
quartz barn
wind spruce
#

We've gone full zealot chat

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(But the zealots aren't ever joking)

long saddle
#

no zealot chat is the french here

zinc phoenix
#

Block all the low T basic bitches making demographic attacks ๐Ÿ™

late yew
#

At this point i am starting to consider zealot chat better

tulip kettle
#

the reality is, europeans ragging on each other over nationality is good natured mutual fun

late yew
#

I would prefer degenerates over prudes

proper spoke
marble crater
#

So anyway, I took a two week break because of Xcom and Dispatch, so for my first game today I thought I should play smite.
Thoughts?

wind spruce
zinc phoenix
late yew
late yew
#

was not smite shut down

#

or was it only paladins

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

there is no malice in it, we all do it to each other and the reality is when it comes down to it we all have each others backs

zinc phoenix
#

Until the camps are finished anyway

quartz barn
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Thats why i said its eu vs turks

obtuse dome
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everyone is having fun until jugoslavia happens

tulip kettle
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brits would and have gone to war to defend our european allies and they would and have done the same for us

late yew
obtuse dome
tulip kettle
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meanwhile actually using demographics as insults is, as i said, low IQ shit. be better.

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LMAO

long saddle
tulip kettle
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caught in 4k

late yew
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well i don't, but i hate censorship in principal

long saddle
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๐Ÿค”

tulip kettle
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now i actually block

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amazing

late yew
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Good

wind spruce
zinc phoenix
late yew
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no need to communicate with such a hypocritical prude

tulip kettle
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right

wind spruce
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We died for you mfs too

zinc phoenix
late yew
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literally "it is ok when i do it"

tulip kettle
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and i wouldnt insult someone by calling them a nationality

marble crater
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except the Fr*nch

long saddle
tulip kettle
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^

zinc phoenix