#psyker-class
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Crusher is a goated weapon.
Just wish zealot didn't get fucked over so hard with it into blue stimm.
It's my fave. I wish it had a mark closer to thammer's patterns but I make it work
I've gotten used to the combo's
i'm too stupid to use anything that's not light spam or heavy spam
I've just noticed I never use the single target heavies I only spam out pa light
I use tech to reset my chain and do a light heavy for wide and heavy light for single target
Light, heavy hold block just long engugh to animation cancel, repeat
Gaurantees perfect blocks
You lose DPS that way.
Probably another month or so you can still do it.
ok seems like nobody is around to help me with havoc 21 atm alright
I can but with how hectic work has been the last 3 months I doubt I'll have that much free time.
I can do havoc 21 if EU/USEast
the nuncio aquila can damage and bounce between enemies if you chuck it
I gotta kill a boss with it now
I nearly made double my usual wage the last 2 months with the hours they made me work.
i could just PF randoms but randoms keep deranking me ๐
I would help if I was at home
And yet everything in front of me helplessly sways back and forth like tall grass in the wind until it dies anyways
Karien is going to possess and play instead of me so it's free win.
it's comsplex 21 with garden and stims
It's ok it's better than just light spamming.
I mean I'll help if you want me to, I'll bring my tankgrin so I'm not a hard carry
alright well sounds like i have people so i guess i'll inv and we can play lul
@plucky flaxhow do i inv you? lul
I am not in game. I'll request to join you. But can you set your match making to us east?
I can't play west with 300 ping.
we can play on NA east or EU. im not good enough to notice a difference between servers
Any sub 30 can be beaten with a stealth zealot with a knife, and a team decent enough to survive events.
Up to you but us east better cos I'm the only eu person.
Though this is definitely cheese.
i found you but won't let me inv you?
I learned that trappers can send a net out through their backs.
4th person? 4th person?
OH YEAH
Is this based?!
do i PF a 4th or do i have a 4th here
Also, sometimes if you get down and rescued on stairs, there's no visual difference between down and up except for your bottom right icon.
I died from that.
1800 kinda expensive.
I think I'll just buy 1 helm.
Bruh 1 helm is 1400
This feels like scam.
wot???
PS: feck this game
Am I already in?
@nocturne wasphow confident are you? havoc just means less hp and less toughness
FS kind of force you to buy the bundle for 400 extra.
100% only thing holding me back has been finding ppl
ok i'll just take you
i mean it's bet on you or bet on randoms
LOL
uhhh find me and join my strike team
Don't let my arb game play fool you that build is meant to be played like a maniac
i wouldnt know. i mean train is chaos so train is also kinda whatevs
.....check terminal please
Is this the right person?
somebody not eligible
yes
I still think the hat with feather and leather coat is best outfit
Hello! I have been playing a ton of bf6. I will try the new map and new class
Is arby new or do you mean hive scum?
Gotcha!
servers really are doodoo rn
Anyone gets the game freezing everytime you boot up the mission select the first time every session
ill join you
gonna go play age of empires vs my own PC so no lag, problem solved.
@plucky flax thank you!
Wasn't me it was karien.
@sturdy reef thank you also
np
@nocturne wasp well there's an experience of havoc for you lol
That wasn't too bad
only thing i'm gonna tell you is if somebody is doing the data interrogator and you're an ogryn just stand on top of them and enemies will hit you instead so it won't get interrupted
or do it yourself since Ogryns can't get interrupted while doing them by little melee attacks
important when the other two are fighting near the front
otherwise you did fineeeeee
Haha yeah I've been crutching arb shock mine for those so much I forgot what to do without it
Thanks!
i got interrupted 3 times in a row and i was losing my shit LOL
I feel that 100% on me
yes. but you're learning it's fine. i threw you into 21
How did havocs go
We winded
I'm fucking sleepy as shit but gotta pack my shit and drive home.
i don't think i even managed to kill that many specials or anything
I was being a liability adhd ogryn
playing with agent feels a lot like playing with Six ._. i feel like i do nothing in the game
Get up liability
How I feel looking at scoreboard as crusher Marty zealot
I will never be top damage unless my entire team dies.
i will never be top damage even if i clutch ๐
i don't have the scoreboard mod cuz i feel like i'd just be sad
I'm ahead of six when I play with him. 
why, top damage doesn't mean everyone else was useless
I like being able to see who is hogging all the ammo pickups
it can mean that, but usually it's just build/role choice that impacts it
i'm like bottom of every category
install nameplates/psykernautics, win special kills every time.

i don't get how you manage to move so fast ._.
I hate scoreboards.
Give me a big ahh ๐ผ or ๐ฑ and Im happy
I will usually have least damage taken, and top out on lessers killed unless we have a flame staff user.
i have psykernautics and i still don't win special kills
I use knife on my burga build for the zoomy.
I will usually be second most or most on specials and most on ranged elites.
My advice is to stop giving a shit what randoms think on the internet.
And if you're friends are seriously putting you down over scoreboard shit, fuck 'em, they're no friends.
ribbing is expected though 
I love to swap slide.
also i think that's the fastest round of havoc i've ever won ._.
was a bit concerned about my ammo running out at one point but i never ran out so it's ok
i do feel shovel feels a bit nicer than taxe though
I love tac axe up until I have to solo a horde of pox walkers.
Then I wish I had literally any other weapon
that's when i have a problem with it too
Never gave one to begin with 
@nocturne wasp btw i've seen randoms way worse than you so i think you're doing fine
Yes because they are a function of giving a shit
You do not need scoreboard when no shits given
I'd like to think I'm good but not great
But I want to know who to blame for there being no ammo pickups on the map
i still remember the 3 wound curio Ogryn
Usually it's a shotgun arbites or a plasma vet.
I am also in permanent fuck around mode because finding out Is hilarious to me
I need to do more limit testing.
idk i'm normally not a huge ammo vacumn. unless nobody else is killing specials
Or just some dude who has 1 round missing and grabs the bag anyways
my friend keeps saying he's seen worse players than me in h40 but i think he's lying lmao
No I have seen people who shouldn't be playing above malice in 40 party finders.
Quantum mechanics
They're probably not wrong
sorry i only play uprising normally ._.
Throw trash at a wall enough times it will evntually phase through
I refuse to believe it
an infinite amount of times*
i stopped playing with my friend cuz i felt really bad deranking him
but then he deranked from 35 back down to 26 anyways ._.
I find most people have a severe lack of fundamentals in all difficulties in this game.
That's not how ride or die works
Hey you haven't played with me stop lying
i learned gunners in havoc 34 really really fucking hurt T__T
I was assignment rank 36 3-4 weeks ago
is defense or warp resist a better dump stat for the blazeforce greatsword?
warp resist
1 volley from a baby shooter will put you to 10 hp
everything for psyker is warp resist dump except voidstrike
(there's a psyker that dumps blast radius on trauma instead of WR but we're not gonna talk about that)
i really want to try havoc 30s again but nobody will let me in
Eh if you can follow instructions and stick to the team like glue you are already surpassing 50% of randoms.
i can push poxbursters
90% of the time
the last 10% they phase through me and boom right behind me
๐
today i did something i used to be too scared to do
i melee hit a burgle a few times
i used to exclusively shoot burgles ._.
I hit it in the back with grenadegun special
Burgle is so poorly designed
It's just severely cruel on certain sections of certain maps
Oubliette tunnel is one spot where burgle just sucks.
ah yeah ok i get that
yeah
i dropped the ammo box at a bad time cuz i needed grenades to throw at a chaos spawn
plz forgive me lmao
chaos spawn is the one boss i really really don't want to get close to
I was once eaten by Burgle, and than spat out in a tiny 3x5 room where enemies were meant to spawn. But they stopped spawning so the door wouldnt open and I was trapped
I guess it's the vt2 experience, but for me cs is easiest
Self climb time.
basically same moveset as in vt2
Why?
just dodge the grab 
i'm not a chew toy
If it locks on to you you just got to block and dodge.
no. burgles as long as you dodge puke you're good
okay uh i feel sorta like a simpleton asking this but what is that bar that appears when I have the BFG on
it's the charge bar. how much charge you have for the special
BFG?
ohhh i see
I feel bad for Burgle so I always run in to give them hugs
Blaze Force Greatsword
normal acronym is FGS.
ah yes, english
If my mic was working you would have heard me shout "PUPPY!" when they spawned
Big Fucking Greatsword*
Big sword / fgs.
It's not even that big 
i saw you get eaten
It's the biggest one we can get right now. 
I want to have shortest height psykerr, who uses warp strength to wield a big slab of metal
and by big slab, I mean ogryn height
Zealots when our big sword is better than theirs. 
This happens
thats when they say size doesnt matter
sometimes i get eaten too lmao
I love big swords
the nice thing about shovel vs taxe though is i can beat up hordes
hmmm......
maybe.....i keep using shovel
i feel like taxe is slower at beating up hordes. or i'm just dogshit at it
who knows
Vet needs a proper 2H melee
both could be true
ok final question for BFGS, what are the marks good for?
6 has highest boss damage
but they both do the same thing, just different patterns
8 needs to do a combo and that loses dps
for somebody that hangs out mostly in psyker chat i play no psyker
Fuck Croatia
8 needs a push attack to access stab, 6 h2 is a stab, accessed from h1 > h2, or l1 > h2
Hungary did it already.
errrr wat like that's ummm sudden and quite a first statement
I basically only play psyker so I use this as a main chat

i don't play psyker cuz all my friends are psykers
i just arb zealot and i guess now i do a bit of vet
i wonder how well a 4 psyker h40 team would go if it was planned out, 1 inferno, 1 rending trauma, 1 gunker, 1 meleeker
Ainz did it
is the recon lasgun the super fast firing one?
a certain mark of it
if you choose the right mark, yeah
which mark
the torrent one
isn't it the one that says torrent?
sometimes i think about playing recon vet but i think that would make me do the worst things ever
like just pew pew no anything else
wait for it, worth it
Mk12
Im also a lil uncertain how it does vs specials
Fastest one with most ammo is best one
ohooooo baby i love this gun
Hows shooting specials with recon las?
as a gunker, not bad
definitely easier to aim than vraks,
damage understandably lower tho, so it can take a bit more, but, also, brrrrrrr
envious
Hmmm now i want to try reconlas vet
no
what does the 10% cdr for psykers do? is it that substantial?
ig everything is buffed if you count psyker having a better tree
it's an aura
everyone gets it in coherency
It reduces your ability cooldown by 10%, and its highly overshadowed by Psykinetics Aura
10% cooldown reduction on your ability
ah so thats why lmao
I can imagine 
if your ability is more important than extra crit it's useful
but you usually warp siphon then anyway
Max crit or bust tbh
Huh wait did i miss a psyker rework
Gaze has constant regen now
Like a month before arby
WAIT HWAT
I'm pogging so hard rn i'm reinstalling tonight
They have to buff it every patch somehow
zealot, vet, and psyker got redone trees
they all "function" like ogryn and arby now
Oh yeah zealot escaped hell
empyric shock any good on the inferno?
What's that do
Nah
Idk I hate inferno
how would i go about that, trying out builds for havocs rn
I forgor ๐
might as well play pseudo zealot psyker atp
ride on the train ๐
Real
inferno also doesn't use primary attack all that much
empyric shock is only really for surge surge
yes, it's very good, especially compared to the alternatives of what you have to take going down that part of the tree
also you don't have to kill to gain that, it's a buff you put on things hit by your primary
observe its magic:
DISREGARD DEFENSE, ACQUIRE OFFENSE, DOWN WITH BUBBLE META, CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP
Build: h"ttps://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a027409f-a745-44c1-b76a-045c26d47fa3/inferno-shriek-2
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Fellas tell me why do many people prefer Mk6 covenanto over mk8?
because they're bad at the game
Elaborate
it has a "simpler" horde clear pattern because you can just spam L1 without there being a strikedown in the combo
that's the other way around tho?
oh my bad i cant read
people prefer the mk6 because they're better at the game
because it has better single target damage
I thought mk8 PA into heavy was better
no
I do see some do the push attack poke p well on mk8, but mk6 is easier for good heavies
its slower, janky to pull off in high stress situations and generates peril when you might not want it to
and canceling for the horde clear is fine
cancel, weave in a heavy instead of l3 or just ignore the strikedown entirely bc it really doesnt matter
me sitting pretty with less than 100k damage with my silly bulwark arby
saved the run twice tho, happy wit that 
Gotcha thx
played right arby is the one class that can consistently come close or even out damage psykers ๐
i want try to make scrier fire trauma build
But that's not even close...
pretty much, tho i find arby thats consistently giving space way more fun to my own playstyle
almost 30% difference
throw a flash and charge in without a thought, ride or die typa friend
proceeds to get netted
People need to stop posting healing map scores as evidence of anything, just saying in general, not referring to any scoreboards above. Though even normal scoreboards are barely any evidence for a single build aspect being good
Tbf psykers usually double the damage of most pugs
here is another arby scoreboard:
also yeah, wtf are those damage numbers, what is this game mode
EO + BTL is a potent mix for dps
Even what your team is doing plays a bigger role than your build
Though forceful is safer and more consistent
In most pugs i imagine myself to be alone, because i technically am 
but yes, it's pretty much the class I have seen that can consistently compete with psykers somewhat on damage, even on heal maps, at least in my personal experience
shovel db vet can
There's plenty of examples that can. You just see arbs more because it's easier and more accessible
If your whole team is high DPS, kraks etc, the shriek psyker might be barely ahead even on a healing map
If at all, it's somewhat random
I have seen 3 mil vids of that vet build, but a lot of people played it in my games and they couldn't get close, but arbies in my games can, so ๐คท
but is it really a competition in havoc tho if you all contribute to actually winning
Well yes, arb is going to be considerably easier to pull that damage off with
but ye it's a "can"
lol, all that left for fun in h40 for a lot of people is a psedu competition
and meme'ing meme builds
because for a team of 4 experienced players dead set on winning you just farm 40s and it's boring
Tbf very few people in high havocs are this neutral
Like, ever
It is highly competitive even between each other
Has been for a while
what else is there left other than generate big scoreboard numbers, or meme 4x melee psykers ๐
I mean I only did havoc 40 with randoms so, haven't done any this reset
Bigger number unga bunga
it's not my main mode
Heavily depends on the tier
most of my havocs are also bog standard psyker so I was never really hurting for dmg and kills
Everything under 25 is kinda whatever and you usually get people like me who join for the carry penance
But 25 - 35 is ass because you have a mix of people who are either just bad or "supposedly good" people
35 - 40 is alright but you either have to make your own lobby or have some meta slave loadout to get invited
And making your own lobby sucks imo due to pub skill rng
how much harder havoc is compared to auric?
the jump is deceptive
Auric is damnation but with higher elite/special spawns
h40 has so many "hidden" stuff
like what
Emp fading light 1 is basically damn+, fading light 2 (h30+) is damn++
So more enemies, you take more dmg, less ammo spawns
it's not even close lol, you easily solo auric for a lot of old timers
Add all the other modifiers like armor hordes, dh rituals, healing aura enemies, more monsters, stims etc
full breakdown
Main issue imo is that everything base game just feels braindead easy after enough havoc 
Not me I play sedition
that's just the mod slider
I know, im just thinking of the og number chart that fs shared on the havoc release
Most of those never made it into the game because it went up to fading light 7
some go up to 7 yes
Blue stims can go fuck themselves
Ye i kinda figured they implemented some after the overhaul
I think these were always there
Never seen this breakdown tho, took a big break not too long ago
it's from the link I posted earlier
has all mission modifiers as well
the only change to modifiers was fading light 2 iirc
then new modifiers and clearance overhaul
The guide doesn't mention resistance changes, which in this context refers mostly to specialist pacing. There's some divergence at least at resistance 6 (high havoc and auric high intensity)
I guess it mentions "more spawns" under Emperor's Fading light
I play uprising 
Ok yeah, hard to find a party for havoc
literally only 3 lobbies open
and 2 of them probably won't accept me since i never did anything above 18
whats the horde clear combo for knife
Press light attack a lot.
Mk6 is different as it has cleaving horizontal heavy but I think nobody uses that one really idk
well 6 can do second heavy into light
why would psyker use a knife
mk6 heavie was fun when charged strike was cracked for a minute
why would anyone not use a knife
just learning knife on any class, i thought knife psyker was a thing, maybe im wrong
hard to go wrong with uncanny and a bunch of bleeds
Mark 6 just spams the push attack
The other one is light spam
push attack?
yea
he asked about horde
That is for horde and everything
... no?
Im forreal
push attack does not deal with horde
Yu uh
And psyker knife is very much a why use this when we have better choices. And yeah push attack is not for horde
It's significantly slower
So "nu uh"
I mostly run knife for movement so
U can do it infinetly with the knife
You want mobility run DS5
So its infact good
It's slower
learning knife in general, just decided psyker. zealot better to use knife i guess?
So it's in fact worse
Press dodge lil bro
You could also just not use mk6
I like it on vet
Knife is best on bleed synergy classes, psyker doesn't have that
knife and ds5 have the same sprinting speed
So vet and zealot
alright thanks, ill practice knife on themn
Knife in psyker is really good and safe if you dont wanna use melee
As a safe option
On psyker, as syllo said, just use DS5 if you want it for mobility
Nah
im trying not to use DS on any class
Same speed better dodges
DS5 is not the meta DS and far from crutch
But it has better mobility than knife
Its pretty much the exact same lmao
duelling sword apologists
dont care about meta
Sure lil buddy
Different move sets and different stats
Essentially completely different weapons
Same sprint as knife but longer dodges
On DS5
And again, knife on psyker is the weakest of the classes that can take it. It's just carpal tunnel - the game.
I see 0 reason to ever touch knife on psyker
I mean, it's just, fine. Crits are good on psyker. But I agree with you really. For mobility there's better options. For damage there's better options.
i appreciate the insight
whats good underneath DS then, i guess
i will learn knife on zealot
I like mk2 DS for the sheer reason of my krieger looking good
otherwise i'd be playing mk4
MK4 is objectively the best and the one everyone complains about. The other 2 are cool, and off meta because worse. Because apparently playing meta is not cool.
Mk4 is the best no doubt
meta is fine imo
Doesn't take too much brain to figure that out
And on psyker, best melee is FGS Mk6 for most use cases
i just want to be able to compromise if one gets nerfed
Looping thrusts
Agreed here
I use
Mk6 fgs on my EK
Deimos force on inferno
For that uncanny
Yup
And well, it puts crusher hordes on their ass
Though lately ive been feeling bored so i just MIGHT pick up voidstrike, finally
Surge and warp nexus on it likely
Deimos/obscuras if your build needs uncanny, FGS if it doesnt
knife is slightly less mobile but the higher crit and attack speed is good for EE safety and bleed is fine for bosses
You doing meleeker?
Oh
inferno is only boring when you bubble
Well for meleeker i run laspistol + mk6 fgs, but you certainly don't have to
Inferno just wants uncanny is all
Does savage sweep affect amount of targets hit by evi special?
Laspiztol works great
Evisc special always sticks to 1
Even if you have perfect strike which gives incredibly cleave
even when horizontal
????????????? it does not
Evisc special cannot eviscerate more than 1 tatget at a time. Wdym
why would you special and expect to hit several things anyway
it can be useful vs mutants
1 elite/special, it does cleave through horde
i am thinking to use bloodthirsty again, i did it long time ago and it was fun
Did I hit my head and fall into zel chat
zealot is just not zealot
so I understand ppl asking in literally any other chat lol
Me too
hows psyk and catachan?
like you're not gonna get an answer most of the time
yes
i tried dclaw yesterday on martyr, it was great
assuming dc is not that pog?
it one-shots most relevant targets with all the martyr bonuses
Its very poop.
And one-shots most others on parry
It has 1 gimmick - spamming parries into rager blobs
true, that does look fun but yea
dclaw has similar damage stats to heavy sword
yeah but martyr makes any melee feel nice
Yup
Oh I have 100% damage bonus and this weapon is good actually
ds? 
DS parry and dclaw parry are different tbh
On many weapons thatbonus is ont that relevant since it already one-shots most things
But dclaw does not one shot lots of things without bonus, but it does with it, which makes the bonus more relevant
DS parry is not "I spam this button and live"
Should have had parry from the start tbh
I've never gotten in to the whole parry thing
DClaw having parry actually annoys me
I don't see any questionable gifs, must still be psyker chat
It is fuckn machete
Factual
it has no actual crossguard
which makes it automatically shit for parryinh
realistically speaking
how ab out now
cropped zorn, really?
sorry guys, i appreciate the info but i was mid match. if running fgs, damnation and auric for now, whats a good ranged pair
Literally anything that isn't imferno
Now we all know you are a stinky zealot
having to say this means it 100% is
that helps slightly but whats ur fav
that helps me more tbh
prove it
Do a right side tree build with assail and scriers. Take a recon lasgun mk12 or a laspistol for more crit stuff
i only hear baseless accusation
i prefer being unbanned
thanks sibling
Recon psyker annoys me on spiritual level
coward
Recon lasgun mk12 with inferno, dumdum, flak and crit chance
Laspistol is technically better than recon but worse if you have a head clicking skissue like me
burn damage then like 1/6 of total damage
Infernus very good on recon las
aiming? never met her
Hit the gunner with the brrt then go on to the next
just to see it getting killed by ape from your team
making burn wasted
You max stack it stupid quick and let it actually do it's dmg which makes it ammo efficient
Its also good DPS into bosses
what about lack of ammo
?
The whole point is the infernus makes the recon much more ammo efficient into gunner and reaper blobs, which is specifically what it's for on gunker
Unless you spam it into hordes you dont run out of ammo, thing has 900+ bullets
all ammo restores the same amount from ammo packs, it's just percantages
You'll stack Max burn stacks with like 10 shots
and yes you can just stop shooting
also come on, the art is beautiful
why are you still going on about it
What
idc
what do you mean stop shooting
Shoot for a split second. Stop shooting. Burn kill.
it seems that ammo is a you problem
Shoot each of the 20 gunners a lil bit, keep EE active and kill em all.
do you take true aim?
goddam do you peopel can't t ake a joke
i even fuckn posted shooting orc
True aim is for things like revolver
jokes are usually funny
Voidstrike
Ngl i just hold lmb on recon and grab all the ammo
True aim with assail goes brrrrr
Pubs are usually fine with it as long as you pull your weight / carry hard enough
Yup it's just "my revolver always crits the special" with assail
ammo is only a problem if everyone is low
If you want to spam recon into everything just play vet
On psyker it's a tool to complement your bigly sword on stuff that's killing you with bullets that you can't reach
This but with ammo pack usage
Just drop it whenever, everyone will always be topped off

I love when I drop ammo packs early and somehow it's already empty when I want to use it a bit later
why not headhunter
only time I go ammo pack crazy is when field improv is active and I want to spam grenades at a finale
Because it's worse DPS than dumdum infernus, plus the whole reason for recon is because I can't click heads good
and if i can click heads good?
with SG+dd+infernus you've to shoot at a reaper for like half a second to kill it
If I could click heads good I would use laspistol
pretty good
Then try iags.
They are just, worse, but it's w/e
Plus vraks iag has funny haha 1 mag a boss in 5 seconds
bolt pistol can be fun on psyker
hm?
Yeah?
so cick the big orange blob on its back
Guess what, genius, clicking head once or twice and clicking it 50+ times are different things
Because it does literally nothing if you just pick true aim
And true aim isn't even that good
but also dont take true aim with recon lasgun.
Unless you like lying about your headshot rate
even then
thing is
if you would have crit anyway when true aim procs
you just lose it
Yeah
and you already have an absurd crit rate
You lose like 40% of its effectiveness in scriers
so youre losing most of your procs that you would get from it. its just a wasted talent
True aim with 73.5% crit and surge surge only takes you up to 79% crit
Idk why I tested that lmao
true aim is really for those weapons that you want to swap to quickly and shoot one shot off and know it will crit and kill the thing you shoot
like bistol or revolver or maybe voidstrike
Blaze trauma 
Flechette manstopper shotgun 
even that is questionable, but sure for the meme value
i have like a 65% crit rate on blaze trauma without it
missing voidstrikes when you go for heads is very sad
If you're in scriers
Why is dbarrel shotty so bad...
And who actually runs staff scriers and isn't just using warp unbound
I always run warp unbound because I overload if I don't
because of muscle memory
I did take it off once and I did it three times in a game
then just put it back
Plus if you get like 3 casts off before hitting critical unless you're coping with ER
with a piety zealot you have 67.5% crit rate without scriers on blazing trauma
It's criminal psyker doesn't have a crit keystone
Remove EP give us critmaxxing
Would enable so many builds
Big wins
I've been having fun with EP assail lately
Don't they benefit each other?
No because head-hunter resets on crit
Headshotting with auto fire is way harder than single fire like laspistol
no for the reasons we discussed
no?
and recon las has pretty high spread
so you wont hit heads even if youre aiming at them
i did today, and it is surprisingly good
I mean you can staff SG with anything but inferno so
you are losing huge damage potential by not taking WU on staff builds
I do at least
they are its main use case
only if hip firing, when aiming actually accuracy is really good
You hit a head shot and get one stack of true aim and HH. Do it again four times. They both give you a crit at once.
You start stacking both again, oh wow I just crit when they were at 3 stacks. Now head hunter has reset and true aim is still at 3 stacks.
wrong.
Make sense?
its good for the first second or so
you don't need more for anything other than bosses
its terrible as soon as you are being surpressed or firing for extended periods into gunner blobs
which is what its for
never in my 700 hours of game i was concerned with suppression
I literally forget this mechanic exists
what weapon are we talking about here
it is that much irrelevant
recon lasgun
Suppression doesn't exist in scriers
i said it has relatively high spread when firing for extended periods or being surpressed, which it does.
I've never noticed any spread
which is good, full acc full auto is overkill in terms of balance
I haven't used recon for months but isn't it extremely accurate when not hip firing?
i ca try to show you some clips
talking about headshotting bosses again, it is way harder to headshot them, their relative hitbox is smaller, and they move much more than any other target
Like borderline pin point
yes its very accurate at first
Contrary to popularity i love the MkXIV recon las
but when theres 20 gunners and they are shooting back you will see that the shots are spreading
and the reason for using MK12 is the fire rate = more frequent crits = more EE and infernus procs
Not if you're in scriers which you should be
not every build runs scriers
Eww
Yeah of course. I don't run guns on psyker though, personally
I only play staff psyker or meleeker
Ehhh
Stay in your bubble, bubble boy
I think I'm 60/30/10 spread on SG/shriek/bubble
the only real differences is "do i take BCoB" tbh
To some extent ig, due to SG and DD, though i wouldn't know how people build up to it. For a secondary on meleeker i'm either taking surge EK or a laspistol at most
Not taking BCoB makes me cry
that's me
sometimes it just, doesnt matter
Rotten armour I drop it
I think I'm only bcob on one build
Not getting enough weakspot kills for it to be effective
its also not that good in lower difficulty
theres just not enough enemies for it to be worthwhile
just take WU and use scriers again
Lower difficulty like heresy/malice or auric/mael?
yes but who willingly plays lower difficulties
auric
sorry auric is what i mean by "lower difficulty" my bad
BCoB is strong as hell in auric/auric mael
dude the hordes are like 20 poxwalkers
no?
It's not for hordes
In auric? What? Auric mael is literally equivalent to mid range havocs
I just don't bother durationmaxxing on SG
but BCoB lowers your peril when you want it to be maxxed
Except that it doesn't because you're in scriers
right and then scriers hits max
like I'd rather be able to have it active close to 100% from just activating it again
and you instantly start quelling your peril away
and then you press scriers
and youre back to 0 peril
ew
And then you weave an assail or two
Literally between weapon swings
So much work when you can just smite to stay at high peril all the time
And for that time you're below 50% you're in scriers AND the 10s linger
Which is simply stronger than UP and WR
false
Math hard
it means you should always use that build
yes
LMAO
use it every time
Use it every time, free slurs from the local darktide populace
ok you sold me on it
TL 908 true survivor SG smiting btw
ngl, mod showing burster radius is gae
fuck off and blocked

using demographics as slurs is low intelligence shit. be better.
Do you know what dom means by demographics?
People like the Fr*nch?
He didn't just say you shouldn't say offensive things
Blocking? In Darktide??? You must attac
No
The French don't even make good croissants
No bloc, only attac
well, calling frogs "people" is a stretch to begin with
Woah woah woah demographic attacks
i prefer "cheese eating surrender monkey"
was abotu to say that
its a meme
This meme hurts French feelings
indeed
It's fine though, we are European, they surrendered to us so we are allowed to say it
factual
I see it is the Animal Farm model of justice
all europeans hate each other
and we all hate the french the most
its why we are so united
ok i see it is ok for you to use "Demographic slurs" (who even came up with this) because it is meme
It is not ok for me to use them because it is low intelligence
I see i see
Plus we all know Europeans will always be racist
There's no changing you
omg dude how low IQ are you
Close, its the turks
5
Also true, especially Austrians
France is 2nd place
the only fun thing about making fun of the french is that they call it racism
Low T demographic attacks from a basic bitch are unacceptable ๐
Its actually nationalism
they arent people and dont have rights
shieeet, my bad, should have considered that
That's not how you spell Australians
yes, but they think they're marginalized as a western european country
(this is clearly a joke and i love the french and have been to france many times)
Australians are Austrians with toilets
bet if anyone says same thing about gay your ass will exlode to be seen from the moon
that's why it's funny to make fun of them
What's with the low IQ talk? People with high IQs can be racist dirtbags too
because they react poorly
Youre lying no way have you been there and would make that statement
In the us maybe, in europe no one cares
French are legit insufferable people
cant lie
You are racist because you are low iq redneck
I am racist b ecause i am high iq scientist
We are not the same
I did mean Austrians, despite being in Eurovision you are not European 
Ok but they actually aren't good bakers
this is just bell curve meme
exactly
It's true Austrians are not European
California eugenicists of the 30s be like
I'm none of those things. Are you going to continue to try to start fights?
???????????????????????????????????
Try?
That was clearly a joke bruh
Just working out who to ignore
I am making same mistake again
also are they admitting they're racist 
Probably just ignore the whole chat rn
Prob the entire convo if you get offended over this
no zealot chat is the french here
Block all the low T basic bitches making demographic attacks ๐
At this point i am starting to consider zealot chat better
the reality is, europeans ragging on each other over nationality is good natured mutual fun
I would prefer degenerates over prudes
Not offended in he slightest. Doesn't mean I have to listen to bickering children
So anyway, I took a two week break because of Xcom and Dispatch, so for my first game today I thought I should play smite.
Thoughts?
Classic racist dog whistle
โBro itโs so fun, itโs a gas!โ
ok, whatever that means
You can google what a dog whistle is, it's not that hard
there is no malice in it, we all do it to each other and the reality is when it comes down to it we all have each others backs
Until the camps are finished anyway
Thats why i said its eu vs turks
Our time will come
everyone is having fun until jugoslavia happens
brits would and have gone to war to defend our european allies and they would and have done the same for us
Guess what my prude friend, it is the same when people call each other gay or even n-word (hate how censored it has become)
They infact did not come to help poland

meanwhile actually using demographics as insults is, as i said, low IQ shit. be better.
LMAO
why do you want to use the n-word tho
caught in 4k
well i don't, but i hate censorship in principal
๐ค
Good
Australia is obsessed with Gallipoli and im pretty sure no one from outside of this continent knows that battle
You realize nationality is a demographic right? ๐
no need to communicate with such a hypocritical prude
right
We died for you mfs too
I do not support the use of rapper words ๐
literally "it is ok when i do it"
and i wouldnt insult someone by calling them a nationality
except the Fr*nch
not me, im from "neutral" sweden
^
Shut up you Frenchman, you absolute Frenchman




