psyker-class

[radiant frigate]

if shooty gits are hyper lethal then bubble is good

havoc 1.0 kind of really wanted you to have bubble

[weary idol]

correct

[radiant frigate]

perhaps multiple

[tulip kettle]

yeah it was kind of hard required

[weary idol]

people still demand it because god fucking forbid you take cover or press the crouch button during a dodge to slide

[tulip kettle]

now, yellow stimmed shooters and stalkers can really fuck up your day

but then you can just, dodge or slide or be in cover or push them so they swap to melee

[radiant frigate]

and then with enough cdr your team creates a bullet-free corridor from start to finish

victory achieved

[quaint lark]

Bubbles ok but like I perfer smite for horde stun/clear and scriers gaze, I just need a tank and a boss killer

[radiant frigate]

in a way it was easier than aurics but also it was just asinine

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/critical-bard-cb-critbard-block-blocked-gif-17797062

[radiant frigate]

what

[verbal thistle]

lol

[quaint lark]

Its super powerful

[hazy birch]

Smite? Horde clear?

[tulip kettle]

"i prefer smite Sg" the man said

"its super powerful" the man said

[royal totem]

Imagine having the reaction speed to dodge slide

[hazy birch]

Lol

[radiant frigate]

tell me this is bait

[quaint lark]

Yes I can kill over 120 units in less then 10 secs with it easy

[radiant frigate]

you know what else can? shriek

[tulip kettle]

in sedition maybe

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble is also very good on specific maps where enemies are shooting you from 50m+ away

[tulip kettle]

all smykers deserve the same fate

[ripe obsidian]

Like Silo or Magistrati

[quaint lark]

Hell i can keep smite up for over a good 10 mins keeping crushers and others stunned for team mates to finish off easy, small dudes go down like its nothing

[tulip kettle]

my guy, just stop

nobody here wants to hear you talk about how good you think smite is

[summer prairie]

smite is still op in havoc, a bit less so with stimms

[radiant frigate]

the council has decided your fate

sentenced to solokill a boss with smite

[quaint lark]

Simms is hard but it can be done

[royal totem]

I dun mind smykers

[quaint lark]

I have done it already

[verbal thistle]

I want red to come back

[tulip kettle]

LOL

[verbal thistle]

and the smite psykers to just fall over

would be so funny

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[timber cairn]

agreed, this man talking sense

[ripe obsidian]

How many weeks did it take?

[timber cairn]

one of the best talents out there

[hazy birch]

I like smite as an easy mode button. Certainly does the job. I just can't see it doing big damage

[quaint lark]

I less then 3 mins

I use empowered psyinoics

[ripe obsidian]

Smite is strong, but boring, and many smite players struggle when they can't smite.

[ripe obsidian]

Doubt.

[royal totem]

As long as i get to nuke bosses i happy

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[timber cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/worldbox-smited-lightning-gif-17816464421779196148

[tulip kettle]

again, in sedition, MAYBE

[quaint lark]

Smite is my main weapon, my melee and gun are side arms

[timber cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-elmo-smite-blasphemy-fire-gif-16399494362253595444

[tulip kettle]

okay its bait

hes trolling

[quaint lark]

I am not

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-kamui-bait-gif-2813101653670750754

[quaint lark]

I run it every time and its works really well

[radiant frigate]

#FREECLAD

[quaint lark]

Hell i posted a video earlier with me using smite

[radiant frigate]

🚬

[tulip kettle]

nobody cares dude

for real

you are in the wrong place

[timber cairn]

Vortex is one of the leading voices on psyker meta, so he's in the perfect place

[chrome sail]

If I wanted to fit Wildfire into this build, what should I get rid of?

Or should I not even bother with Wildfire in the first place.

(Using Greatsword with Blazing Spirit)

[quaint lark]

Ty

[royal totem]

Link plz. I want proof

[timber cairn]

gotcha bro 🙂

[quaint lark]

Its earlier in this chat

[tulip kettle]

you should not be using greatsword with blazing spirit

[radiant frigate]

please do not use blazing spirit on things other than voidBLAST

[tulip kettle]

YOU KNOW WHAT

FUCK THIS IM OUT

you guys take the wheel

[timber cairn]

blazing spirit is a great shout

[radiant frigate]

look what you've done

[timber cairn]

ANTOHER BLAZING SPIRIT LEGEND

keep winning

[quaint lark]

Also the harder the differently the better smite does, as theres more enemies for it to bounce

[royal totem]

Nvm. Too hard to find

[quaint lark]

One moment

[tulip kettle]

blocked and blocked and blocked, easy

[marble crater]

Nobody is winning with blazing spirit on their melee

[hazy birch]

Been testing the FGS blessing that quells peril on multi hits to help with building scriers stacks

[radiant frigate]

real wizard

[chrome sail]

Why?

[chrome sail]

Why?

[tulip kettle]

it doesnt work.

[marble crater]

Short version: it sucks

[radiant frigate]

waste of a blessing slot

[summer prairie]

you can apply some blazing spirit stacks first with melee first and then smite while they take sb damage

[chrome sail]

Why? What makes it “not work” or “suck”?

[tulip kettle]

okay super tldr

it only applies fire when you crit

it cant apply fire to things that are dead

when you crit, what happens to the enemies?

[marble crater]

Because anything you hit with a crit, will either die outright or die with the next hit, before the soulblaze deals any meaningful damage

[radiant frigate]

1. it only triggers on crits
2. it only triggers if they survive
3. greatsword crits kill things

[timber cairn]

basically, you want to put blazing spirit on FGS but make sure you don't kill them too fast

[chrome sail]

Alright. Thank you for the information

[hazy birch]

So only useful if your damage is useless

[marble crater]

I also like to play bad on purpose

[ripe obsidian]

"Kill enemies slower" is one hell of a take

[verbal thistle]

its funny in idea but does nothing in practice

[timber cairn]

make sure you take smite too

[marble crater]

Ah, it's a troll

[verbal thistle]

what gave it away?

[marble crater]

The trolling

[tulip kettle]

nah dude, he posted his havoc veteran title to prove he knows what hes talking about

much better than all of us

[timber cairn]

Read it and weep

[royal totem]

Hey.

Better than me

[timber cairn]

Got that H40 with smite and blazing spirit

[quaint lark]

@royal totem

[timber cairn]

and there's nothing you can do about it

[royal totem]

I can only clear havoc 1

[quaint lark]

There you go Nemui

[marble crater]

I will go and get drunk on rum balls now, I can't take this

[tulip kettle]

way ahead of you.

judacious application of the block button + hard liquor

[royal totem]

Ty ty

[quaint lark]

Roger roger

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-spirit-cheers-spirits-booze-vodka-gif-24575608

[marble crater]

It's 3% alcohol, so I would probably have to eat so much that I throw up before getting drunk, but I will try

[radiant frigate]

casali?

[marble crater]

I also expected the English word to be something other than 'rum balls'

[marble crater]

Rumkugeln

[radiant frigate]

CONSUME THE RUM SPHERE

CONSULT THE RUM ORB

[ripe obsidian]

Why does everyone have 3 wounds? What difficulty is this?

[quaint lark]

Oh we all had wound curio

[tulip kettle]

dude dont question the leading voice of the psyker meta

[radiant frigate]

auric but everyone has exactly 1 wound curio

[quaint lark]

Its auric

[quaint lark]

Ty

[ripe obsidian]

What a choice.

[quaint lark]

I run one wound, one 21% hp, and one 19% armor

[tulip kettle]

its fucking malice dude.

[radiant frigate]

committed to the bit

[tulip kettle]

dont fall for the bait

[radiant frigate]

i wish i had 19% armor curio that would be so sick

[ripe obsidian]

I know. I'm not engaging with it anymore.

Not worth my time

[quaint lark]

sighs

[radiant frigate]

true fact

[marble crater]

Because you need to write guides for the new class, right Six?

[summer prairie]

smite makes auric look like malice

[ripe obsidian]

Whenever I have it.

[quaint lark]

It really does ty

It lowers the mode in a way lol

[radiant frigate]

what's the new class and is it psyker 2

[marble crater]

We don't know yet

[ripe obsidian]

I want beep boop robot people

[radiant frigate]

if it is not, why bother?

[ripe obsidian]

Is a tech priest Psyker 2?

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/shangri-la-frontier-psyger-0-rei-saiga-excited-gif-1823819869324912341

Maybe Psyger 0

[radiant frigate]

i will allow it because pasqal is cool

"Combat is an equation, and you are an insignificant variable"

[languid cipher]

i feel identified

[tulip kettle]

engage conqueror protocols

transmitting binharic technocant

[radiant frigate]

plus you can converse with hadron and kayex in binharic

it's peak

[tulip kettle]

all i want for christmas is a kastelan maniple and the data wafers to program them 🙁

i would settle for a kataphron breacher squadron if santa cant fit the robots in gift wrap

[marble crater]

Nobody has the time to have a conversation with Kayex, we have places to be

[tulip kettle]

erm, just implant noospheric augments and communicate technotelepathically 🤓

[ripe obsidian]

I absolutely love Tech Priest dialogue in every game I have played.

[tulip kettle]

data transfer at bit rates thousands of times that of "speech"

[patent mango]

is movement speed curio worth it?

[radiant frigate]

WOULD YOU LIKE INFORMATION IN BINHARIC OR GOTHIC

[marble crater]

Since when we have those?

[tulip kettle]

yes i use 3 x 10% movespeed major curios.

[patent mango]

i got a 8% godroll

wym 10%

what am i missing something

[radiant frigate]

forbidden tech

[patent mango]

holy hell

[marble crater]

High Gothic please

[radiant frigate]

they seem to have a very specific manner of speaking and that makes it so different and so good

[patent mango]

this is why we gotta get an admech class

[tulip kettle]

we are getting an admech class.

we literally are idk why anyone has any doubt about it

[marble crater]

I don't even know what that is

[patent mango]

isnt it a jokaero

[radiant frigate]

monke

[tulip kettle]

they already announced enginseer for space marine 2 at the same time

adeptus mechanicus

[patent mango]

is it aroudn the asme time?

[marble crater]

We already have seer though

[patent mango]

idk when gleb marine comes out

[tulip kettle]

yes its in january

[patent mango]

zamn

[tulip kettle]

they did arbites on this game and rogue trader at the same time, they are doing ad mech on this game and SM2 at the same time

it wont be a techpriest though i dont think, its likely to be skitarii or tech adept

[patent mango]

well sm2 hasnt gotten any collabs with dt before

[tulip kettle]

but im hoping for a sicarian

[patent mango]

rt did

[tulip kettle]

and neither did rogue trader? its not a collab

[summer prairie]

I think it's unlikely that they are doing a "major" patch in december and another major in january

[patent mango]

yeah it has to be this year too i'd say

otherwise people will riot

[tulip kettle]

no i think its around the same time

within 2 weeks of each other is around the same time.

[patent mango]

yeah but the major update hype is gone then

[tulip kettle]

new class reveal mid november

[patent mango]

way better to release class and update at once

[tulip kettle]

i guess release mid december

for major patch

[ripe obsidian]

Have you played Mechanicus? The various quest givers each have their own idiosyncrasies that are super fun

[summer prairie]

They said it's dec 2nd

[tulip kettle]

FROM THE MOMENT I UNDERSTOOD THE WEAKNESS OF MY FLESH

[patent mango]

imperium truly only exists for mechanicus moments and aura

[radiant frigate]

i have not but i have heard good things about it

[radiant frigate]

IT DISGUSTED ME
I CRAVED THE STRENGTH AND CERTAINTY OF STEEL

[tulip kettle]

man i get chills every time i boot up the game

[strong gulch]

bag of candy
cheese
bean pie

[radiant frigate]

are you aspiring to the purity of the blessed machine yet

[tulip kettle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS9g-K4qCVA

[chrome sail]

Need Force Rod melee so we can bonk while we thonk

[tulip kettle]

FOR THE MACHINE, IS IMMORTAL

BWWWWAAAAARRRRRRMMMMM

i heckin love ad mech

[quaint lark]

EVEN IN DEATH, I SERVE THE OMNISSIAH!

Its what got me into Warhammer lol

Hell i have a Synth Tech Priest sona and LOVE IT ^^

[quaint lark]

THE MACHINE IS BETTER THEN THOSE VARLET

[quaint lark]

Beat it...I 100% it bc I fuckin love it

I love the C-tan as a boss in there

[strong gulch]

Most things are better than this. Just think what this might do to flesh.

[quaint lark]

Make you fat

[strong gulch]

More like violently shit.

[quartz barn]

genuine question

how does the diff unlocking for new classes work

[strong gulch]

Can't make me fat when I already am.

[quartz barn]

because im at 45/100 for auric

but im lvl 40 already xd

[kind jay]

no i am!

[tulip kettle]

Fatshark, my life for a data Smith, or at least taser goads

[quaint lark]

No...I AM STEVE

[kind jay]

[tulip kettle]

you just have to win games in the highest difficulty you have unlocked

[quaint lark]

Oh shit you are fat

[tulip kettle]

losing makes you lose progress

[strong gulch]

oh right

sry it wasn't me

[quaint lark]

Also

https://tenor.com/view/potatoes-batata-gif-25596248

[strong gulch]

I would like to sit in hot water rn.

[hazy birch]

We need a minion class

[tulip kettle]

im telling you, data smith with kastelan robot

[quaint lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cover3-gif-9764906189137424574

[tulip kettle]

so fucking cool, and impractical

[hazy birch]

Honestly I'm too ignorant about Warhammer universe lore to even know what that is

[quaint lark]

Ohhh ok ok I like this idea

[quaint lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229590485807661166/1418049079308714074/the-amazing-digital-circus-tadc.gif

WHAT?!

The giant Ad mech robots

[quaint lark]

These

[tulip kettle]

big robot that runs off floppy disks that the little guy carries around

[hazy birch]

Looks big

[quaint lark]

It is big

[hazy birch]

Bro said floppy disks

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[quaint lark]

They are floppy disks

[tulip kettle]

abominable intelligence is banned you know

[quaint lark]

Mhm

[hazy birch]

I mean, a flash drive is no more abominable lol

[tulip kettle]

yaeah but this is the imperium

[hazy birch]

I thought it was AI specifically that was considered heretical

[tulip kettle]

yeah it is

[quaint lark]

It is

[tulip kettle]

but thats why pre programmed floppy disk

and they are fiercely protective of their datasmiths

and they have cool customisation like flamethrowers or machineguns or giant tank punching FISTS

okay im drunk i will go now

[quaint lark]

Gotta love the big bots, so powerful

[hazy birch]

I made the mistake of buying space marine

[quaint lark]

Here's them against a necron

[hazy birch]

Here I am annihilating things with like 3 bullets out of a down sized bolt pistol in darktide. But In space marine 2 I'm unloading full mags of full size bolter ammo into trash mobs

And they just look at me funny

[hazy birch]

What in the hell am I looking at

[quaint lark]

Its Mechanicus

[fiery stratus]

That's just because darktide is a much better power fantasy and game in general

[hazy birch]

I mean people been enjoying space marine. I just can't get over the fact that it feels like I'm firing airsoft pellets at mobs in it, as a space marine, shooting 70 caliber self propelled armor piercing HE rounds at shit.

[fiery stratus]

Like I said, darktide is a better power fantasy. For some reason they felt like they needed to make some type of sluggish shit, when space marines are agile as fuck generally

[hazy birch]

Reminds me of "the division". Difficulty assigned by making it take 3 business days to kill things

Run out of ammo before you kill shit

Yea and my cadence is all wonky too. Like it feels so clunky

[fiery stratus]

Yeah im not a huge fan of damage sponges in game. Thankfully darktide doesn't have that issue generally outside of havoc

[hazy birch]

Fuckin crushers

[fiery stratus]

Sm2 movement leaves much to be desired for sure

[hazy birch]

Like I'd rather fight a beast of nurgle than a crusher

[proper osprey]

I hate bons as melee psyker sometimes

[fiery stratus]

See darktide has a big thing where it encourages you to run weapons that deal with different threats. Like balancing force greatsword which is great antiarmor, with assail for help with cc. Or on zealot an evis for more mixed horde, and a bolter for armor.

[proper osprey]

Tbh I wish I wasn’t forced into uncanny sometimes

I love tac axe but like the 4 crushers make me cope

And bulwarks

[fiery stratus]

Problem is armor is a big issue, and a lot of weapons just got even worse at dealing with it recently

[hazy birch]

Definitely not my idea of a good time trying to melee a beast but at least it's not wearing plate steel armor

[fiery stratus]

Beast of nurgle really aren't that bad to deal with after some practice

If you stay close to their side you can dodge to tail whip, and huge the weakspot

Takes practice

[proper osprey]

I don’t melee bosses that much I delete them with laspistol or revolver

[proper osprey]

Can’t forget it’s mouth is a weakspot as well

[hazy birch]

Yea I'm on board with specialized weapons. I just hate that it feels like I'm melee so often cuz running gun even 50/50 is difficult to pull off so my melee option has to kinda be able to do it all well, but none really do

[fiery stratus]

Yeah youre generally better to use ranged for deal with most monstrosities

[proper osprey]

Bons aren’t hard anymore

@autumn smelt can I see that melee psyker dh solo

[hazy birch]

They aren't

[proper osprey]

[hazy birch]

Chaos spawn however...

[fiery stratus]

Well tbh darktide is a melee focused game. Your gun is technically a secondary weapon

[hazy birch]

Right

But that philosophy of design limits creativity

[fiery stratus]

You can use staves on psyker and avoid probably 90% of melee, but its hard to use only ranged in darktide, kind of intentionally

[hazy birch]

In some ways I'd rather have curated build combos that allow for different PlayStyles. IDK. Like even Vermintide had some options where ranged was actually viable as a primary

[fiery stratus]

The balance of weapons is going to narrow things as well, depends what combo you use and what youre playing difficulty-wise

[hazy birch]

Yea psyker but that's it

And only staves

[autumn smelt]

Brother which one

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1425020140734644294/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2025-09-30_11-37-17_PM.mp4?ex=6902692d&is=690117ad&hm=bde8cc0c11cb5be8325fb2bc520d8a8ce2580396ed2d70dd3e5589ea7478d664&

[fiery stratus]

Ranged is viable as a primary, on vet its fine too

[proper osprey]

They aren’t hard either especially on melee psyker

[hazy birch]

In harder difficulties when ammo is scarce?

[fiery stratus]

Ogryn, the biggest thing is you mostly use gun for elites/big threats, then clear the trash enemies with melee

Just saying ogryn as well, not specific to him

[autumn smelt]

The only place where ammo gets scarce is the latter half of havoc

[hazy birch]

I usually gun down trash on ogryn

Nade and melee the big shit lol

[fiery stratus]

See there's your mistake

[autumn smelt]

If youre saying ammo is scarce on auric
Maybe use your melee occasionally

[proper osprey]

Does hold the warp slash make it do anything extra or nothing?

[hazy birch]

I guess this is a matter of perspective. But to me it's pretty scarce even in damnation

[fiery stratus]

You should use your stubber or whatever for big stuff

[autumn smelt]

Nothing

[hazy birch]

Scarce enough that I can't just run around shooting everything

[fiery stratus]

Gonna lose service soon

On mobile

[autumn smelt]

THATS OUR POINT

[proper osprey]

Guh what have I been doing lol

[autumn smelt]

You shouldnt be shooting literally everything

[fiery stratus]

Like I said its intentional, its because od the game genre

[autumn smelt]

I was kinda joking implying that wow

[proper osprey]

I’ve been holding it like to heavy lol

[autumn smelt]

Ranged builds still have melees for a reaskn

[proper osprey]

@hazy birch if you wanna shot everything do staff psyker

[fiery stratus]

Like I said, if you look in your inventory in game. Your melee says "primary" lol

[proper osprey]

Melee psyker is pretty good too gunslinger

[fiery stratus]

^^

[hazy birch]

Tried that

[proper osprey]

Unironically the best dps in the game

[hazy birch]

Felt meh

[fiery stratus]

Was just using fgs earlier today brainless 2 shotting crushers in auric event

[hazy birch]

Then I found recon lasgun

[autumn smelt]

Staff psyker is comically overpowered

[proper osprey]

Psyker and vet are competing

[fiery stratus]

^

Recon las is a noob trap gun tbh

[hazy birch]

...

[autumn smelt]

I dont think it is

[proper osprey]

Recon las is a good weapon but it’s not meant to be primary

[autumn smelt]

I think it has a low skill ceiling yeah, but a low skill floor too

[proper osprey]

You can do a recon las vet meme build

[autumn smelt]

So you can totally get away with it in anything

[proper osprey]

But then you’ll be a recon vet

[fiery stratus]

Noob trap in the sense that people rely on it far too much for things, not saying its not good.

[autumn smelt]

You may start to struggle in havoc if you dont have the gamesense to compensate

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/evil-hatchetmancer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button @hazy birch try this

[autumn smelt]

But it'll still basically do everything for you with the right setup

[proper osprey]

There are other weapons in description

[autumn smelt]

Maybe not amazingly
But still

[proper osprey]

Also cole how are you building your fgs now?

[autumn smelt]

Riposte warp whatever

[proper osprey]

[autumn smelt]

Riposte and the peril strength one

[proper osprey]

Guh

[proper osprey]

I thought because of by crack of bone it wasn’t good

The warp strength one

[autumn smelt]

Its still strength

[proper osprey]

True

[autumn smelt]

Multiplicitive with all of the damage bonuses you have

[hazy birch]

I love the recon

It does exactly what I needed my primary to do

[autumn smelt]

Secondary

[hazy birch]

Destroy bosses

[autumn smelt]

It chips them away slowly

[proper osprey]

And your peril is violent with melee psyker so it’ll still be amazing

[autumn smelt]

Laspistol is what does that

[hazy birch]

And frankly I can primary it just fine. Given ammo is available

[hazy birch]

😳

I think you may be thinking of a different gun

It's not one shotting them but it does insane damage for an auto rifle

[autumn smelt]

No recon slowly chips them away, id say its a solid gun for bossing only if you have infernus

[proper osprey]

Isn’t it 20%

[autumn smelt]

And thats mostly cuz you can stack it up then melee it while occasionally restacking it

[hazy birch]

Show me a clip of another auto rifle that's not "chipping away slowly"

[proper osprey]

I wish the fgs had a bit more cleave but I guess the slice does that

[autumn smelt]

Laspistol is the las-boss nuker

[hazy birch]

Cuz I nuked a damnation demon host in a couple of seconds earlier

[proper osprey]

Try laspistol

[hazy birch]

Auto rifle

[hazy birch]

IDK about laspistol but I hate that gun

[autumn smelt]

Whatever they named it to
Vraks Infantry autogun has much higher raw damage

[hazy birch]

Id have to see it in action

I don't like it out the box enough to level it

[autumn smelt]

It just lacks the burn damage recon has making recon win out due to the fact that you can deal damage to a boss with it thats aggroed on you without even having your gun out

[patent mango]

laspistol has the power of always looking kinda ugly

[autumn smelt]

Its baller as fuck tho

In gameplay

[hazy birch]

So I've not used one in a long time but when I did, it felt like ass. No damage, low fire rate, unwieldy and low mag count

Picked up the recon and immediately felt like a Lord

[autumn smelt]

It has insane damage, its just a finesse weapon, very much so

Its all loaded into headshots, crits, and crit headshots

You can kill reapers in 1/3rd of a second with it

Imagine what that can do to a boss

[hazy birch]

I kill reapers pretty good with the recon too

[autumn smelt]

Oh AND it also has infernus
So it has the same bossing advantage as recon whilst also doing thousands of damage per shot

Plus with dumdum, thats tons more damage to both the hit and the burn

[hazy birch]

Does this not require build specific synergy and like max buff procs and shit?

[strong gulch]

Laspistol needs you to aim well. If you can do that it goes hard.

If you can't, recon is there.

[hazy birch]

I can aim reasonably well

Just depends how much I'm shitting my pants from the current situation

[strong gulch]

But yeah vraks 5 and laspistol are better for bossing, provided that you can weild them.

[autumn smelt]

You lean into it about the same amount as you lean into recon on vet

[hazy birch]

Like that DH earlier man.. Whew

[royal totem]

what wep is vraks btw?

[autumn smelt]

Recon is literally just lower risk, lower, effort, lower reward

[strong gulch]

vraks 5 IAG

[hazy birch]

I'll give it 3 games to impress me.

When I get home

[autumn smelt]

Easy to use but expect an equivalent result

[royal totem]

ah.

[hazy birch]

Which mark am I going to be trying to look for

[autumn smelt]

Laspistol? 2

[royal totem]

today i finally set up Skitarius and now using dueling sword feels less ass

[autumn smelt]

Ok we're back to fucking macros I cant take this shit anymore bye

[patent mango]

lmfao

[royal totem]

i'm literally just avoiding carpal tunnel. lol

on dueling sword it makes no difference cuz it's not like a weapon that swaps between heavy and lights. it's just heavy heavy heavy heavy

[patent jacinth]

This is why dueling sword is lame

[royal totem]

there's no impact on skill other than can you click a button fast enough shrugs

i only use dueling sword on one build lol

and it's not psyker

[patent jacinth]

Run mk5 if you want to run ds

It has the swag actual saber moveset and goofy ass dodges

[royal totem]

explain more plz

[patent jacinth]

Mobility and defences

Best dodges in the game

[strong gulch]

Depends on the macro for me. If it's just making something more accessible then I'm for it. Like how staff M1/ LMB or laspistol needs shots individually clicked or if you struggle to even chain heavies together, then I don't see and issue with just holding the button down for those.

If it's to auto animation cancel like people were doing with staff LMB or deimos L1, then no feck that.

[royal totem]

pretty much my opinion

also, my brain too slow to execute certain things

Mk 4 does more damage on DS though doesn't it?

[patent jacinth]

Not anymore

[inland leaf]

Is dueling sword a good alternative to force greatsword?

[hazy birch]

It's a PvE game so really it doesn't matter. But staying competitive with a semi auto relies on shot placement and efficient shot timing as well. Using a macro eliminates the need to be skilled with shot timing to maximize DPS. They're balanced around that.

[patent jacinth]

Its horde clear is infinitely worse

[hazy birch]

But again, it's a PvE game. Who gives a shit

[strong gulch]

DS4 heavies do more damage, but DS5 has stronger parries.

[hazy birch]

People actually parry in this game?

[patent jacinth]

None of the semis in this game are balanced around shot timing

If they were full auto they'd just be harder to aim

[hazy birch]

They should be. If you could perfectly time your shots your DPS goes up

[strong gulch]

Recon is just hold the button down. Laspistol should also have that option.

again accessibility

[autumn smelt]

Yes

[hazy birch]

Having them semi banks on people not being perfect with timing. A balance factor

[patent jacinth]

Not in darktide

[strong gulch]

disabled people should be aloud to play the various weapons

[patent jacinth]

You can mash to achive max fire rate

[strong gulch]

I will not budge on this

[patent jacinth]

It just doesn't feel good

[strong gulch]

I will not debate or argue

[hazy birch]

Then don't argue it I guess. Certainly not changing my viewpoint on it lol

I think the devs should implement it as an option if they wanted to. But they didn't.

But again, pve

There's no universe anyone's doing to defend such things in a PVP shooter

Idgaf about accessibility in that setting. It's competitive.

[royal totem]

i'm gonna agree with you

[autumn smelt]

99% of the time tho theyre used to borderline cheat or ignore engaging with the mechanics cuz they dont feel like it
Thats what I take issue with

Agree with you
But the vast majority don't fall into that

[hazy birch]

I think an auto mouse masher is the least cringey mod people can use

There's shit that I've seen people use that tell them when a burster or mutant has them locked

Other things of that nature

[royal totem]

i fall into the category of quite injured from previous workplace. not enough to be permanantly disabled but my body is not in any good condition by any stretch

which does actually include my wrists so yeah

@patent jacinth how is horde clear on DS5

[patent jacinth]

Better

[royal totem]

than 4?

[patent jacinth]

For some magical reason

[rich spindle]

Is there some point on the way from weapon swap macros to noclip hacks at which you would draw the line

[fiery stratus]

5 has mediocre single target, still good but less good than the others because its a strikedown instead of a poke. I havent used the 5 for a while but it clears very well, at least last I did. Its lights are all diagonal slashes, and its very good for clearing.

[hazy birch]

Not sure I understand the question

I don't like mods that affect gameplay in general. I try to keep my modding to things that improve the experience or give me things the devs should have but didn't. Like scoreboard

Or custom UI so I can put things where I want them

[fiery stratus]

#psyker-class message

[rich spindle]

Would you draw the line at aimbotting, for example. Or does it not matter because pve game

[patent jacinth]

Aimbotting doesn't even do anything in darktide

[rich spindle]

So true

[patent jacinth]

Like sure you have a 100% headshot rate but you will still eat shit and die in melee

[hazy birch]

I think it really doesn't matter much in pve. I don't like the idea of such things but is it affecting me or anyone else? No not really. I mean you'd have to be a special breed to aim bot a pve game imo

[fiery stratus]

Tbh darktide hit boxes are normally like shooting a refrigerator at them, so eh lol

[ripe obsidian]

Can I die without eating shit?

[patent jacinth]

Its nurgle

No

[ripe obsidian]

Dang

Unfortunate

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/nurgle-total-war-warhammer-great-unclean-one-daemons-nurgling-gif-24491424

[hazy birch]

Yea that's the other thing. There's too much going on in dark tide for an aim bot to really do much

[autumn smelt]

Its the light strikedown being fucking stupid strong

[fiery stratus]

True power

[rain wren]

Only mod I find annoying is the ping that keeps pinging

[ripe obsidian]

Is that why I had a stealth Zealot spamming DS5's strikedown instead of anything else, then dying to the horde they couldn't clear?

[royal totem]

but Six is supposed to clear horde for me 😭

[autumn smelt]

That must've been cuz they werent good

[fiery stratus]

Blame the user not the gear xd

[autumn smelt]

Pebcak

[fiery stratus]

Guns dont kill people

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[rain wren]

True they just bounce off or they eat them in this game

[fiery stratus]

How is surge now that crushers are tanks

Probably better to run brainless ds4 for them

Idk

Nah illisi clear probably still needed

[royal totem]

hmmm so i can one shot a crusher from the back

but not the front

that's nice to know

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/0JyNxG

Just a reminder that souldrinker doesnt always proc without soulblaze getting the killing blow

[ripe obsidian]

Not blaming the sword. Blaming someone who heard the attack was good and didn't know how to do anything else

I facedesked when they used stealth to try to kill a single crusher and failed instead of using it to get revives

[hazy birch]

I've seen it recommended cuz some people can't bring themselves to ping on their own but yea, then you run into the issue that nobody really knows what the priority is

[royal totem]

how'd they fail that one?

it's like a single crusher

[wet belfry]

Ratlings?

[fiery stratus]

Nah this is a meme about skaven

[royal totem]

i want this

[fiery stratus]

They probably won't do any xeno classes, but idk

[wet belfry]

It is clearly a ratling, it says it is
a man-thing

[fiery stratus]

Yes-yes

[wet belfry]

Having xenos would pull alot of the attention of the narrative within dark-tide, thereby would be a bad choice for a class.

[royal totem]

i need an opinion from somebody smarter than me

if my main weapon is thunder hammer should my second be bolt pistol or combat shotgun

[wet belfry]

Throwing knives

Always throwing knives.

[royal totem]

i do have throwing knives already

but secondary weapons exist

[wet belfry]

Flamer is good with throwing knives.

[royal totem]

mobility too low. do not like

[wet belfry]

Otherwise bolter is good if need boss kill

Although thunder hammer already covers that

[royal totem]

i'm an infiltrate bonk zealot. don't need boss kill from my secondary

[wet belfry]

There really however isnt a good reason to go both throwing knives + bolt pistol/shotgun.

Similar role coverage from blitz and secondary weapon.

[royal totem]

it's simple. mobility. that's all

[ripe obsidian]

Throwing knives are the best blitz if you can aim them. I can't

[royal totem]

sometimes it takes me 2 knives to kill an elite

or special

but shrugs

[rain wren]

It's definitely not cool when it pings the same thing over and over

[ripe obsidian]

Sometimes it only takes me 2 knives to kill a special

[fiery stratus]

Tbh knives dont need to be as precise as youd think, you can aim a bit high and you'll the head reasonably often.

[ripe obsidian]

I know. I still suck

[fiery stratus]

Hit*

They do be taking practice

[ripe obsidian]

Aiming is hard. Shaky hands, bad movement prediction

[royal totem]

i figure if i only hit the head half the time i can kill like 8 elites/specials with one round of knives which seems. actually okay

[fiery stratus]

Trial by fire

https://tenor.com/view/excited-fuego-gif-26833875

[ripe obsidian]

I usually just use stun grenades as an Oh Shit button.

[wet belfry]

Could just go incendiary grenades and go bolt pistol as secondary

Incendiary grenades have put out some ridiculous damage before in the right position.

[ripe obsidian]

Fair.

Stun grenades feel so short sometimes

Like a worse version of Arby's shock mine

That doesn't even regen

Knife regen is one of the major reasons it's the best

[wet belfry]

We have voltaic mines at home

(Stun grenades)

[royal totem]

Six

[ripe obsidian]

I like Zealot, but I fear my skill with it is... lacking

[royal totem]

Combat shotgun or bolt pistol. choose for me

[ripe obsidian]

I've only done like one non-book H40 clear as Zealot

[ripe obsidian]

Evens or odds?

[royal totem]

even

[wild goblet]

first purchase

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, wait, it's not just a yes/no question. Shotgun will be even, bistol odd

Rolled a 6

Shotgun for you

[royal totem]

ok. shotgun it is

if i really don't like it i'll switch back

but it seems okay as long as i remember to load a slug

[hazy birch]

thought warp res was the dump

[autumn smelt]

I used the new bolter with thammer

[royal totem]

and? did you like? dislike? etc

[autumn smelt]

Its what I used to reclimb back to h40 with

And I've not taken it off

[royal totem]

infiltrate or charge?

[autumn smelt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1427518857156755456/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2025-09-25_3-36-49_AM.mp4?ex=690245c9&is=6900f449&hm=243ff2e3089f05504e22fa32899b76c569a9a8f9a0aabfd3d95f3a43bd8cc9b3&

[royal totem]

what do you like about it

[autumn smelt]

Charge of course

[ripe obsidian]

What be your Zealot build?

[weary idol]

100% headshot rate a crusher and he ain't gonna die

[autumn smelt]

For havoc thammer specifically

[royal totem]

oh. your build is almost the same as mine

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you

[autumn smelt]

2 wound 1 toughness
3x gun resist, toughness, and revive speed

[royal totem]

i think we have like a 2 node difference

[autumn smelt]

instant lesser enemy obliteration

that video above

while you cant see it well cuz of the ogryn in front of me, the kill tracker shows it all

a horde instantly vanished in a few shots

[ripe obsidian]

What blessings/perks? And which sidearm? Sorry for all the questions

[royal totem]

i'm very interested in what blessings you have on thammer

[autumn smelt]

thrust/headtaker, cara/unyield
new mk bolter with pinning fire/fire frenzy, flak/unarmored OR maniac (ive still not bothered checking if maniac hits any important specialist breakpoints)

[royal totem]

ok nvm i already have thrust/headtaker

[patent mango]

😨

[autumn smelt]

yesterday the darktide reddit said that the only thing good about this bolter was the sound

[young cliff]

This is a notification that im yoinking this knowledge and build (still quite noob on how to run zealot in general, so im stealing all i can to become better)

[patent mango]

i mean the sound is REALLY good to be fair

[young cliff]

sure, but the ONLY thing? that's heresy

[autumn smelt]

bear in mind that the build is tailored to high havoc

[young cliff]

yeah, will take it in mind ty

[autumn smelt]

and by that i mean the main difference between this and what id use in auric is id swap desperation for elite damage, purge for duellist, and curio revive speed for stam regen

[patent mango]

actually that reminds me imma check how insane the reddit has gone

ah

[hazy birch]

Wait wait wait... What???

[autumn smelt]

its all "new class: nonsense"

[hazy birch]

The only thing good about the bolter is the sound????

[patent mango]

christ fatsharks gotta reveal at least 1 word before they start suggesting like a grasshopper from their backyard or smth like that

[autumn smelt]

"""reveal"""

[patent mango]

1 word is a lot for fatshark

[royal totem]

i'd have to roll for another bolter if i wanted to run a bolter with that setup 🙁

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah they don't really have an opinion because they were praising the new boltgun saying it "better" lmao

[royal totem]

and i'm too poor to do that

[autumn smelt]

it really isnt
they let a lot of words slip all the time

[young cliff]

Obesefish: "just 3 letters, take it or leave it"

[patent mango]

zamn...

[autumn smelt]

no one was saying it was better

[patent mango]

more like a small hint at least

[royal totem]

i only have 1m ordo dockets

[autumn smelt]

they were saying it was exclusively worse

[cosmic cobalt]

you can literally find tons of post like that when it dropped

[young cliff]

the only thing bad of new bolter is that has less ammo than the og

[patent mango]

they could bring back that hilarious single emoji as a hint

[cosmic cobalt]

only recently people wake the fuck up

[patent mango]

that was so goofy

[autumn smelt]

its worse for what the OG bolter was used for

[patent mango]

i rember like 🧊 as a hint or something

[autumn smelt]

which isnt what the new one is for

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah which is what im saying

[autumn smelt]

people are only looking at it from that lens

[cosmic cobalt]

there still tons of people stand by it because "better horde clear"

[autumn smelt]

like me

[patent mango]

my god the reddit is all the exact same post lmao

[autumn smelt]

removing an entire horde faster than any weapon in the entire game may be good if thats what you want out of your gun

[young cliff]

which is dumb when you consider that a new mk SHOULD do different stuff

otherwhise why have different if they do the same

[cosmic cobalt]

it doesn't because the aoe damage suck massive fucking ball

and the "horde clear" still comes from the cleaves of boltgun anyway

[patent mango]

this seems good tho

[autumn smelt]

it really doesnt

[young cliff]

new bolter bully mixed hordes quite effectively

[autumn smelt]

it takes like 3 shots to instantly remove an entire circle of a horde

[young cliff]

also the hipfire is so good to click heads

[royal totem]

the only problem is i only play stealth zealot

[autumn smelt]

oh and lets not forget nearly doubling the explosion damage from blessings alone with pinning/frenzy

before taking into account talents and perks

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah now it does 60 instead of 30

[autumn smelt]

it deals around 160-200 when buffed up

when you shoot that into a horde, youre dealing that much damage to every single horde enemy per shot

infinite cleave is ...... GOOD?????

[patent mango]

oh god more inf cleave

[autumn smelt]

and yeah you can literally see it in action in havoc

[patent mango]

oh well its fine as long as its not constant

[autumn smelt]

when looking from the perspective of elites, the aoe damage is mid, but thats honestly a good thing
it means we

HAVE A SOURCE OF INFINITE CLEAVE THAT DOESNT TRIVIALIZE ELITES

WOW!

[patent mango]

yippie

[young cliff]

smaller radius for Rumbler and fire not cleaving though ogryn enemies would make thinks barely more fair i feel

[patent mango]

meanwhile psyker got like 2-3 inf cleave to explode elites

[young cliff]

ergo, using those should put a toughness strain on him, so its a risk/reward scenario which is THE theme of a psyker

[patent mango]

maybe? i've seen people mention ogryns blocking inf cleave

i'd defo like some more depth to staff psyker but idk if toughenss strain would change much

[young cliff]

makes sense, better if its caparace, so burn is applied but you must melee it to burn the fodder

[patent mango]

yea

[autumn smelt]

the new bolter should be kinda looked as an adjacent to the flamer imo in terms of function
theyre both for clearing aoe groups, the difference is that flamer scales much higher for higher hp stuff, whereas the bolter kills the smaller stuff way quicker, can deal direct damage to armor, and can shoot further than 16-18ish meters

[patent mango]

boltuh for home defense

[young cliff]

OG Bolter and flamer had a baby, its the mk 3 bolter

[patent mango]

i liked the aoe bistol on zealot last time i played em

[autumn smelt]

but i cant magdump into crushers as fast as the other bolter

i guess its dogshit tho

nvm

i take it all back

[patent mango]

yeah clearly needs uncanny strike

[autumn smelt]

mythical strike

[patent mango]

and an air fryer

[young cliff]

yeah, it is kinda janky on veteran but it works wonders as utility for zealot i feel

[patent mango]

it just felt nice to use on zealot

[young cliff]

make uncanny sttrike an universal mechanic

[patent mango]

lmao

[young cliff]

only buff Dclaw could dream to take, because Obesefish hate it

[autumn smelt]

thats too far
you just ruined my day

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/u7eDHkTf0LQ.gif

this is not the same gif as before but wahtever

[young cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-moana-youre-welcome-maui-dance-gif-15810606

[young cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-angry-fluffy-croc-hunter-steve-irwin-tiger-gif-26960880

[patent mango]

i wonder if next update will buff dclaw yet again

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/killer-rabbit-gif-13866043123582994478

[patent mango]

surprised they buffed sg but not dclaw

[hazy birch]

whats the dump stat on laspistol?

[young cliff]

stability, unless you hipfire that thing will headshot everything

[strong gulch]

I'm sure SG will be buffed again and we will all be even more confused.

[patent mango]

oh god

[young cliff]

now THAT is scary

[patent mango]

i mentioned it before but i kinda fear psyker getting even more buffs next update

it'd be really funny though

[autumn smelt]

after all, melee psyker is unviable in havoc

[patent mango]

they just cant stop

[young cliff]

Psyker being strong is cool, but i want risks for using it

[patent mango]

yeah peril on sg side is too easy nowadays

[autumn smelt]

i had this guy say he knows why they added quell on SG
and said "cuz sometimes you were near max peril and you activated scriers and wouldnt get much use out of it"

[young cliff]

hitting 100% peril should break your toughness

[hazy birch]

200k later one stability dump drops 💀

[autumn smelt]

ok
so you described why you need to pay attention to peril

[strong gulch]

We should predraft a letter that no one will read.

[patent mango]

oh yeah i remember using it sometimes at 99% and coping

[autumn smelt]

and because you need to pay attention to peril
the solution is trivializing it

[patent mango]

kinda sad we lost that

[royal totem]

Only 200k? Laughs

[hazy birch]

normally i get a good dump in like 5-8 cycles

[young cliff]

tbh the existance of the anti-explosion time on SG was already that, idk why they aded a quell on it

[patent mango]

buh

[autumn smelt]

the fucking "make your guns and swords juiced" ability has BETTER WARP MANAGEMENT than the DEDICATED WARP MANAGEMENT ABILITY

[strong gulch]

yup

[patent mango]

also makes your legs and durability better

well ig the movement speed isnt built in just yet

thats next update

[young cliff]

tbh it should not be the "melee only" skill, but the buffs are... quite generous for something that should be about berzerker aggresion

[autumn smelt]

vent instantly quells 50%, 30s cd

scriers instantly quells 50% 25s cd
scriers also can give 10s of ignoring peril is a mechanic entirely
by the time that ends, you are nearly able to use scriers again

[patent mango]

i mean i didnt think much of it before honestly

but now it has psy aura and a buff

[young cliff]

Scriers should NOT quell peril

IDK what Obesefish was smoking

[autumn smelt]

not listening to me saying "REVERT THIS PLEASE DONT DO THIS"

[patent mango]

pufferfish

[young cliff]

the world was not ready for the truth Cole mate

[patent mango]

it defo also takes away from sg's identity

[autumn smelt]

it makes the only use case of vent soulblaze abuse

[patent mango]

yea

[young cliff]

is not like the lingering time was not good enough, it kept buffs running fine and dandy

[strong gulch]

rupture is still ass

[patent mango]

i dont even have any ideas to fix rupture

[autumn smelt]

i wanted it to increase warp damage taken based on peril

up to like 30% max at 100% peril

[patent mango]

i think making it more of a single target shriek would be cool

instead of horde be gone

[young cliff]

yeah, why it doesnt scale on peril?

[patent mango]

rogue trader shriek is single target

should probably still hit at least a few

[young cliff]

making it be a focused shotgun shot would be nice, nuke the head of the crusher

[radiant frigate]

true but upon closer inspection there is an aoe variant too

[young cliff]

and all that is in between

[patent mango]

is that also called shriek?

i rember some gaze aoe

from navigator

forgor the psy one

[patent mango]

ig rogue trader does already do aoe single target

could just copy their homework a bit

[royal totem]

Even with all the psyker buffs i still cant psyker

[patent mango]

which psyker

[young cliff]

and HOW?!!

[radiant frigate]

maybe i should add telepathy to my repertoire

[young cliff]

man, i just jumped a lil in the rogue trader wagon and i have to read SO MANY perks to build my team and RT

[patent mango]

lol latest update added more

[young cliff]

its cool so far but BOY its a lot to learn

[patent mango]

im kinda just going frick it we ball and not checking ahead anymore

maybe at most i'd check if the starting stuff makes sense together

[young cliff]

someone know how to make a psyker be a fronltine that can be a good commander? in RT

[patent mango]

commander? like an officer?

[radiant frigate]

otherwise it wouldn't be an owlcat game

[patent mango]

frontline probably warrior or bladedancer

maybe vanguard...

[young cliff]

yeah, giving buffs and stuff, so far i havent added much psyker powers to my char

[radiant frigate]

tfw no dlc so i just have warrior

[patent mango]

biomancer has insane character buffs

[radiant frigate]

bladedancer sounds so up my alley

[patent mango]

bladedancer is cool

and a bit more balanced now

[young cliff]

i always liked to play the paladin archetype

[patent mango]

ok thats sanctic

and maybe vanguard on top

you could even grab a shield? idk if that works with psy too well

[white sky]

No class matches arch militant anyway

[young cliff]

so a "sanctic" psyker officer/vanguard? that can use A SHIELD?!!
WHERE HAS BEEN THIS GAME MY WHOLE LIFE?!!

[radiant frigate]

not too fussed about that i probably pick assassin anyway

[radiant frigate]

sanctic sounds so fucking cool actually

[radiant frigate]

i mean

SWORD OF FAITH

[patent mango]

you just conjure a sword

[radiant frigate]

you conjure a sword

[patent mango]

funny stuff

[radiant frigate]

that acts like a greatsword

and also

as a flamer

how fucking cool is that

[patent mango]

im actually playing a hecking uhh

[young cliff]

i can burn the heretics as i smite them? cor

[white sky]

Iirc the pryomancer psyker is actually kinda nuts

[patent mango]

imperial world, sanctic psy, officer vanguard rn

[patent mango]

as far as i know thats still busted

[young cliff]

i think i picked forgeworld for mine

[white sky]

I cant imagine its changed

[patent mango]

i think the heroic is single target for executioner now

and that was the insta win button b efore

[young cliff]

i would love to know how to build that effectively, sounds cool

[patent mango]

i have no idea im still figuring it out

i just took the stuff that gives me resolve stat

since sanctic psyker works based on that

[radiant frigate]

imagine having 6 sanctic

6 word of da emprah

HAVMOMENTUM FOREVER

[patent mango]

funny

i wonder how silly momentum will get

[young cliff]

must learn this stuff, will leave so i dont get spolied, since i just started

[ripe obsidian]

In Rogue Trader, my Argenta just kills everything before anyone gets a turn

She gets like 3 free turns from various abilities

[radiant frigate]

GOD-EMPEROR MOVE THROUGH ME

[ripe obsidian]

Said to the tune of a 20-shot heavy bolter barrage

[patent mango]

im going for a max RoF build too

so imma have to figure out the rof stuff too

[white sky]

Arch militant?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah

[white sky]

Yup.

[ripe obsidian]

And officers giving her free turns

[white sky]

Yup lmfao

[ripe obsidian]

And stuff that boosts crit damage, and like 120% critical chance...

[white sky]

Officer+Arch Militant is gamebreaking tbh

[ripe obsidian]

I think if her full barrage hit a single enemy, it would probably do 1200+ damage

Nothing survives

And her secondary is a shotgun

Which does like 250+ damage to everything it hits

I think I am still in act 2.

Because completionist

[patent mango]

lmao

by that point set the difficulty to m ax LOL

[ripe obsidian]

I did

[patent mango]

funny

[ripe obsidian]

Started there

[patent mango]

ah

[white sky]

Arch Militant is real dumb

[patent mango]

just joever with the scaling by then

[white sky]

If you do something like uhhh

[ripe obsidian]

It was challenging for a bit, then I got Heinrix and Argenta got the heavy bolter

[patent mango]

do you know how good is bounty hunter?

i did arch last time

[white sky]

Like, okay

[ripe obsidian]

My Pascal is a bounty hunter. It's fine.

[patent mango]

idk if bounty hunter is good for RoF im thinking its more for snipers?

[white sky]

Its more for snipers iirc

[ripe obsidian]

He does great damage when he hits, but nothing on par with arch militant

[patent mango]

i might just tdo arch again

the kick is fu nny

[radiant frigate]

in honor of mort?

[ripe obsidian]

Plasma Pascal kills anything somehow still alive when Argenta is done

[white sky]

Every class besides like Arch Militant and Grand Strat or Master Tactician is Okay™ ime

[radiant frigate]

the first few encounters (pre-pascal) got really hairy for me but i was only on daring

turns out only having 4 characters makes the game a bit difficult

[white sky]

If you want melee you just warrior Arch militant instead of soldier Arch milly

[ripe obsidian]

Wish I had the DLC for executioner Heinrix

Fire for everyone

[white sky]

And god forbid he can't manage that Cassia exists

[hazy birch]

eh

i mean its not fully built yet

but not all that impressive over the recon

[graceful arch]

What are you running exactly.

Also soulblaze scales with density

The auric numbers on flame staff etc are kind of dissapointing

[hazy birch]

i dont run soul blaze

thats laspistol

[hazy birch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a039cd2f-67a8-4593-8eee-0cada5313387/chev-chelios?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

so this is where im at with this build

im open to suggestions, just consider that changes would need some explanation as to why one this is more crucial than another cuz to me its working pretty well as is. definitely open to constructive feedback though.

[languid flicker]

Is it just me or are crushers worse to deal with on psyker post update?

[verbal thistle]

increased healthpool and reduced spawnrate

I think a month ago it was changed

from like 3500 hp to 6500 iirc

(auric scaling)

[hazy birch]

Casual double hp

Nothing to see here

[graceful arch]

Personally would make a few adjustments

Like cutting warp speed for mettle.

Cut purloin for by crack of bone

[graceful arch]

Mettle gives you more uptime on the move speed as warp speed only functions when scriers is building up to 100% and not during the linger

[hazy birch]

Warp speed?

[hazy birch]

Oh

I mean I'm actively trying to push max stacks when in scriers

So I spend a lot of time in the main phase

[graceful arch]

Purloin makes sense if you are only going to be using ranged for the duration of scriers gaze but bcob will allow more uptime and stacks

[hazy birch]

Or at least I try to

[graceful arch]

I would personally use precognition over reality anchor for a non staff build

But other than that this doesn't look half bad

Also get rid of ethereal shards if you allready run the 100% cleave node it's not really worth the extra investment

Could pick up quietude or JAD with the point instead

[wind spruce]

If you want peril reduction for scriers take crack of bone or tranq through slaughter. Precognition is too good to give up for reality anchor.

You also need Empathic Evasion. It's mandatory.

[hazy birch]

I used to have crack of bone but I thought it antithetical to the point of an edge runner build

Like I've got it on my weapon but it's less dramatic

[wind spruce]

Scriers isn't an edge runner build really

[hazy birch]

with that build im almost always 90+ if not 100% peril

[wind spruce]

You either want to let it hit 100% naturally over 13-20 seconds and utilise warp unbound or utilise the talents I mentioned to keep it dropping throughout combat

Also purloin providence is pretty meh

It just doesn't provide much value compared to just picking bcob, tts or even battle med

But imo the most important changes are you need to pick up Empathic Evasion, melee attack speed and quietude

[graceful arch]

This is personally what I run

If you don't like JAD you can swap it for perilous combustion

PC chains is potentially worth it even without the soulblaze synergy

[hazy birch]

perilous combustion?

how would that function

seems a waste

[wind spruce]

When there's lots of elites it snowballs and kills the pack

Lifesaving when it matters most

[graceful arch]

You can just kill mixed hordes outright by killing 2 elites

[wind spruce]

Irrelevant the rest of the time

[hazy birch]

3 stacks tho?

[graceful arch]

Yeah but it snowballs

Like crazy

It spreads to everything around

Now would I run it in the melee build not really but you could make it work

[hazy birch]

i get the function it just seems like without a soulblaze specific build it wouldnt do much

[wind spruce]

When you're in the shit and you have huge packs of enemies, especially if you're clutching, it will save your life by thinning out the horde enemies and slowly ticking down the bigger stuff too

[hazy birch]

hmm

[graceful arch]

It's a consideration I'm not saying you have to run it

[wind spruce]

If you have a solid team that's going to be alive the whole team it isn't going to do much

[graceful arch]

I'm a JaD advocate in this scenario

[wind spruce]

No malefic @graceful arch ?

[hazy birch]

jad?

[graceful arch]

Just a dream

[wind spruce]

That's one I've been thinking about a lot. It's quite difficult to gauge how much malefic is actually doing.

[graceful arch]

No I don't use assail enough to get value

Like it's good.

[wind spruce]

Yeah I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the right buff is probably not active enough when you need it in a lot of builds

[hazy birch]

ah ok. i considered it, but as often as im at critical peril in combat i dont think id have much uptime

seemed like it would be better for like a melee build that wasnt using as much peril, so they could make use of it more

[graceful arch]

You only need to be below 97% peril for it to be doing stuff

[wind spruce]

I've been running "gunker" with lmb ek for weeks and I'm not even convinced it's worth it there tbh

[hazy birch]

i thought criticaly was anything in the red

which iirc is like 70-80? or something?

[weary idol]

nope

97%

[wind spruce]

97%+ is critical

[hazy birch]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

that changes a good bit

[graceful arch]

Malefic would be better if you took perilous combustion

That's also another consideration for it

But yeah

[wind spruce]

Soulblaze doesnt proc it i think

[graceful arch]

It doesn't?

I swear bleed procs the physical portion of it atleast

Mb

[restive slate]

Could've used Crystalline Will hehe

[royal totem]

i made another pogryn disappear :3

i'm very happy

though boss damage wasn't a problem even without me

[hazy birch]

so for now, drop warp speed for lightning speed and purloin for bcob

those make sense and dont fuck with the build too much

idk if the blaze mech is worth messing with

[restive slate]

How useful is the Smite subnode that electrocutes on Heavy hit?

Without the middle keystone

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/osrs-fight-caves-jad-ketzek-fire-cape-gif-16178317

[wind spruce]

give me 5, ill test it. i only heard this today and havent gotten to checking it yet

[graceful arch]

Yeah the intention wasn't to talk out of my ass.

If I'm wrong then I'm miss remembering.

[wind spruce]

i give such matters too little thought ahahahah

[graceful arch]

Time to get inferno cape

[wind spruce]

classic irosk moment, spoke before testing... despite literally having it in my phone notes to do this morning lmao

[graceful arch]

So what were the results

Am I taking crazy pills?

[wind spruce]

No, I was

[graceful arch]

I haven't completely lost my sanity... Yet.

I'm being gaslight.

Anyways good night peeps I'm about to hit the hay for the night.