it spawns mutant waves as a trickle horde
#psyker-class
deft stump
They are EXTRA spawns ontop the the BS you already get, that's the issue.
languid pine
just met the worst true survivor of my life
summer prairie
do you now get the buffs from Recover
cold ivy
the worst true survivor of your life so far
languid pine
motherfucker keeps hard pushing into ambience when we're still down a vet and have hunting grounds
deft stump
And the BS you get just got buffed.
white valley
They are EXTRA spawns ontop the the BS you already get, that's the issue.
aye, I love fighting twins + a monstrosity while the horde has dozens of crushers in it
languid pine
so far yes
deft stump
aye, I love fighting twins + a monstrosity while the horde has dozens of crusher...
Just unfair BS.
languid pine
i cant wait for a modifier that just triples spawns and does nothing else
white valley
had a rotten garden mission yesterday that went surprisingly okay up until we got a captain burgle + elite blob, but me and the arbitrator managed to kill everything, only to die right as we reached our teammates to rescue them
deft stump
that would be the best modifer of the havoc season
Isn't that just High int auric?
languid pine
not enough to satisfy my urges
white sky
Me unironically loving power outage and not understanding why people hate it
deft stump
Me unironically loving power outage and not understanding why people hate it
Being colour blind.
So the screen is basically black and UI.
languid pine
how tf is this team losing
strong gulch
I think these are it.
#psyker-class message
white sky
Being colour blind.
How color blind are we talking cause it cannot be the reason for everyone
deft stump
How color blind are we talking cause it cannot be the reason for everyone
I can't see shades well. Lights out means I barely see anything not pinged or EO highlighted.
languid pine
mfer how is frontling collapsing
white sky
I can't see shades well. Lights out means I barely see anything not pinged or EO...
Have you tried praying for correct surgery?
zealous wing
tbh i cant see much on lights out either, mostly rely on sound and map memory with what i CAN see
deft stump
Have you tried praying for correct surgery?
If someone will send me a few thousand, maybe.
white sky
I genuinely love Lights Out, favorite modifier in the game.
deft stump
I lived with nerve pain for over 15 years because too ex to fix that.
white sky
Fwiw I also love Exe Vet and EO Arb
deft stump
Why would you think I'll be able to fix my eyes?
white sky
Why would you think I'll be able to fix my eyes?
Bc I don't and I'm making a dumb statement purely for my own amusement
tulip kettle
mfer how is frontling collapsing
how do you have time to type here mid game? are you dead?
white sky
Yeah, no judgements from the floor now.
deft stump
Also, pretty sure lasik fixes focus and not colours.
white sky
Uhhh
Iirc Lasik can fix colors?
Ive looked into it for myself
Ik there's a surgery for colors
But I'm not sure if it's lasik or otherwise
zealous wing
got barreled by a vet magdumping his reconlas everywhere. right after, he got crushered. felt good
if he hadnt barreled me, he wouldnt have gotten crushered
deft stump
Ik there's *a* surgery for colors
I think it's a side effect. But nobody knows how it's like till after the surgery. Some people get one thing, others get another.
white sky
Idk
deft stump
Some get better/worse saturation of colours, some get better/worse contrast.
deft stump
It's a lazer.
white sky
I'm aware, hence the name
I did not think about the fact you can smell it till one of my buddies told me tho
deft stump
Heh. But actual docs say it shouldn't fix colour blindness of any kind, just how you view what you can already see.
white sky
Nah like
I don't think it has anything to do with lasik
But I s2g I've heard of a corrective for color blindness before
tulip kettle
white sky
But I s2g I've heard of a corrective for color blindness before
Oh, nah, it was hypothetical upcoming treatments, not existing stuff
vocal badge
colour blind correction has them pouring different kinds of paint into ur eyes
deft stump
Oh, nah, it was hypothetical upcoming treatments, not existing stuff
Gene therapy.
If it happens, probably too expensive even anyway.
white sky
¯_(ツ)_/¯
deft stump
By the time it becomes 'cheap' enough, I think I'm in a coffin.
white sky
Im waiting for them kiroshis atp
deft stump
Im waiting for them kiroshis atp
I rather not. Someone able to record what I see is... yeah.
Cos they are basically little cameras.
tulip kettle
Cyberpsychosis me up baybee
from the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh...
white sky
Yk
deft stump
Biomods only.
white sky
I used to really like the Iron Hands at some point
deft stump
Hell, my cyberpunk char is a purely biomodded decker/netrunner type.
tulip kettle
deft stump
By that, I mean actual RP.
tulip kettle
i still crave the strength and certainty of steel.
white sky
I was as close to a Militech Eclipse as that game let me get
plucky flax
I wish i was cyborg. Would be able to run faster
plucky flax
Human legs too weak
deft stump
I was as close to a Militech Eclipse as that game let me get
THings that sound like bio mods go... Other than the grip for smart weapons.
Cos it lets me avoid aiming yes.
white sky
Full Body Conversion
white sky
Cos it lets me avoid aiming yes.
My favorite weapons in that game were throwing knives tbh
languid pine
how do you have time to type here mid game? are you dead?
guess why im commentating
deft stump
I had to get the double jump leg mods though, so I can mod inf double jumps and see where all the kill thresholds are for funni.
white sky
Throwing Knives and the Slug Shotgun
deft stump
My favorite weapons in that game were throwing knives tbh
Smart weapons and funni Venus in Furs weapon.
languid pine
yes because the ogryn fucked off to the middle of nowhere and the arbites wasnt covering my revive of vet
deft stump
If you know, you know.
languid pine
no shit im mad
arbites has a chokepoint and a nuncio and he lets rotten armor horde leak in
white sky
Smart weapons and funni Venus in Furs weapon.
I always wanted to use smart weapons but I dont want to level int cause I dont like quickhacking
deft stump
I always wanted to use smart weapons but I dont want to level int cause I dont l...
I actually play quickhack. THe gun was a last resort thing, lul.
white sky
Don't like magic
summer prairie
maybe warp rupture would be decent if it applied -10% enemy movement/attack speed or something
white sky
Idk
The knife felt involved
Nah theres a difference between what the psyker does and what the quickhacker does
Cyberpunk magic felt like looking at something and pressing a button and effects happen free of you doing anything else
So I was not very into it
Frankly?
I dont even really use the magic on psyker in this
deft stump
The knife felt involved
That's if you stealth. Though stealthing with a shaft is funni.
white sky
Nah like
You had to aim the knife
And it had drop and travel time
Unless you used that one funny mod
deft stump
I don't. I stealth run and shank. Or bonk.
white sky
Knife+Sandy open violence most of the time
deft stump
Naw.
white sky
Slug Shotgun for fun
deft stump
At that point I go Gorilla arms and MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA.
deft stump
Because there exist mods to play Jojo.
white sky
Oh nah my first run was Sandy+Gorilla arms
deft stump
Doesn't punch fast enough.
white sky
Cause I saw Adam Smasher and knew I had to 1v1 him
white sky
Doesn't punch fast enough.
Dont need to, you one shot most things anyway
deft stump
Dont need to, you one shot most things anyway
I purposly used a lower tier one just to enact the meme.
Otherwise, I could just chain quickhacks from ages away.
white sky
I will say I do think Quickhacks+Body is a very funny build
deft stump
I just modded my sprint speed to hilarity.
I run as fast as a bike.
Mostly cos i suck at driving.
As all the forced driving missions e_e.
white sky
I wish there were more of those ngl
The racing missions?
Id have played the hell outta recurring race missions
white sky
Nope
You need a 2 seater and you cant even use your own car for one of em
Theyre easy tho and you can just blow the other drivers up
deft stump
So i can't even cheat by bringing that one car.
deft stump
Can't remember, starts with C.
white sky
You just cant use a motorcycle
deft stump
Great handling.
WHich in my hands is poor handling.
other cars are just smash into walls all the time.
Except the Hellhound.
It's a armoured transport thing.
Thing is, I'm pretty sure it's not fast.
marble crater
All the cars except the Outlaw Weiler suck
deft stump
Theyre very easy races
Did you know, I raced the Delamine taxi on foot because I gave up trying on a car?
white sky
Lemme find the one I actually like
deft stump
I bought too many cars and won't drive any.
Also, the autodrive is so bad.
I used it once and it caused a pileup instantly.
marble crater
Skill issue
tacit stump
did they shange the staff leftclick it feels faster
plucky flax
Feels normal to me.
tulip kettle
I bought too many cars and won't drive any.
you can quickhack the other drivers
just make em suicide
deft stump
you can quickhack the other drivers
I have been doing mostly non-lethal run.
plucky flax
I used modded cars.
plucky flax
I'm playing 1 round only now during lunch if you want to join dom.
tulip kettle
they do it to emselves
plucky flax
tulip kettle
I'm playing 1 round only now during lunch if you want to join dom.
ye im down
marble crater
Fun fact, most quickhacks count as non-lethal, even if you fry their brains
zealous wing
its bullshit you cant block people if they go offline
plucky flax
You can with steam block.
marble crater
its bullshit you cant block people if they go offline
Sorry, I will come back online again
marble crater
marble crater
marble crater
Did the wittle smyker hurt your fwellings?
marble crater
Learn how to inferno?
zealous wing
effectively, i should add
not just, burn everything then panic once i get surrounded
and, not default to only melee when such a thing happens
among other things
marble crater
It says you cleared h40, a little late to learn inferno
zealous wing
i simultaneously dont care about getting to h40, but also hate deranking
cosmic cobalt
there just too much issues with the game atm
server, crashes etc
also people leaving after 1 picosecond being downed
zealous wing
very least they should have some "gates" on the deranking. every 5 ranks, cant go lower than that point
something like that
deft stump
Or just drop it.
vocal badge
one loss should send u back to rank 1
deft stump
Actually bad players and trolls will get blocked out sooner or later.
rancid jasper
does self destruct count as a warp attack
tulip kettle
probably easier with 4 players i think
plucky flax
He got shafted cos when he came back the spawn moved.
tulip kettle
yeah happened twice
very unlucky
also i have decided i hate rodin more than rinda
plucky flax
I played really poorly ate too much damage. 
zealous wing
does self destruct count as a warp attack
doesnt seem to, based on the soulstealer talent not proccing
not great evidence but, its what i can think of
rancid jasper
doesnt seem to, based on the soulstealer talent not proccing
it's also not benefitting from pen of the soul or warprider, but that might be because the explosion happens after you lose all your peril or smth?
zealous wing
then its not a warp attack, but, it SHOULD work with warp rider
rancid jasper
wait no i think it benefits from warp rider?
rancid jasper
then its not a warp attack, but, it SHOULD work with warp rider
yeah it does my bad
so it's not the peril resetting
it's just not a warp attack
which it should be.. it's literally the most warp-y attack in the game-
zealous wing
it really should be
rancid jasper
it really should be
there are some really questionable damage type decisions in this game tbf
lone ravine
It also does fixed dmg right?
zealous wing
i thought you could make it stronger
lone ravine
I know crystalline will does
rancid jasper
i thought you could make it stronger
yeah warp rider does
lone ravine
But like it doesn’t increase as you level
zealous wing
... not that IM aware of
lone ravine
I mean Arbites dog did
zealous wing
does it? or does it become affected by the damage talents
zealous wing
damnit
lvl 30 arby dog with no talents is 200, cant test baby arby, dont feel like leveling arby again atm
ripe obsidian
lvl 30 arby dog with no talents is 200, cant test baby arby, dont feel like leve...
Kuli's guide.
tulip kettle
I played really poorly ate too much damage. <a:SadgeCry:927346529725976586>
thought you played great dude. I actually didnt feel i played terribly either that time but i think maybe i try bistol instead of zarona, if specials arent gonna die to 1 shot anyway faster reload and more ammo seems better
rancid jasper
has anyone tried bolt pistol bleedsplosioning with peril overload explosion
or would it unequip it when you explode and not work
acoustic jacinth
has anyone tried bolt pistol bleedsplosioning with peril overload explosion
or ...
rancid jasper
https://tenor.com/view/personabey-chef-shocked-gif-24398522
i would try myself if i could but i maybe have a level 0 bolt pistol lol
rich spindle
It has to be pulled out for bleed to apply and you can’t overload with it
acoustic jacinth
i would try myself if i could but i maybe have a level 0 bolt pistol lol
That would not work well tbh, even without trying. As you mentioned, no actions are allowed during overload
Not to mention, the idea itself even if it work would be very meh
rancid jasper
It has to be pulled out for bleed to apply and you can’t overload with it
you can switch weapon just before the overload starts, i tried before
rich spindle
Interesting
rancid jasper
Interesting
but it might not count because it puts it away yk
just not sure if it counts as pulled out or not
acoustic jacinth
Spending most of your time relying on an explosion is interesting, when psyker has far better choices that would suit the bistol
So eh
Even if it does work perfectly it will not feel good
rancid jasper
Spending most of your time relying on an explosion is interesting, when psyker h...
as soon as i saw the crystalline will buff my first thought was "the poxburster build can be real"
acoustic jacinth
😭
rancid jasper
'twould be funny
acoustic jacinth
Well, by all accounts, meme away
zealous wing
suipsyker is real
weary idol
as soon as i saw the crystalline will buff my first thought was "the poxburster ...
I think Crystalline Will could be a somewhat decent talent
Give it +2 wounds, and make it restore your health/toughness to full once you pop
So you can base spendd 25% of your health by overloading peril to just explode and reset effectively
If you think you'd go down anyways just blow yourself up
rancid jasper
I think Crystalline Will ***could*** be a somewhat decent talent
i could see its pick rate increasing if it inflicted more soulblaze
but inferno with shriek kinda also fills that niche
and it does it bloody well
weary crane
https://youtu.be/wYMrk-krO6I
MK5 my beloved
pallid stump
wait a moment
if i wanna play smite
but smite sucks
why not use use the zap staff
zealous wing
its single target with 2-3 extra slightly damage targets, with stun. very preferable imo
pallid stump
exactly
jovial juniper
why not use use the zap staff
Because they're on different sides of the spectrum
Smite is multi targets/horde clear
EK is single target
deft stump
EK requires some lvl of aim to make the autotarget target what you want.
tulip kettle
boring, no skill, no damage etc
Ek actually does stuff
i had fun in the game earlier with a smyker watching them smite 2 shotgunners for about 15 seconds
just stood there, watching, like some voyeur
thinking to myself
just hit them bro
just hit them a single time each my dude
quartz barn
isnt smite shat upon tho?
For the more experienced psykers, yes. But its mostly shit upon because the average smite user sucks
Stun mechanic > no interaction with dodges etc > unskilled player
Also makes the game really easy for other players which is disliked by some
tulip kettle
hearty wolf
Assassin rats have returned
jovial juniper
isnt smite shat upon tho?
Shat on for being misused
jovial juniper
The no damage part is a lie
cosmic cobalt
also your team benefit more from actual psyker
cosmic cobalt
smite hate is justified
dusk timber
Shate
rancid jasper
Even if it does work perfectly it will not feel good
update, got the blessing on bistol, when i thought i was switching weapons just before overload before it was actually just me switching to another thing that genned peril and that was the thing that was overloading me, but it looked like i was switching as i overloaded [my bad lmao]. so i dont think it would work
unless there is another way to overload while holding it
acoustic jacinth
🤷♂️
zealous wing
but still this be some nonsense, caught in 4k (1080p)
isnt there a window above that spot?
pallid stump
well i dont think im much better with EK staff
i mostly use the rmb and only the lmb when there's a far away target
deft stump
unless there is another way to overload while holding it
The explosion radius is passive.
rich spindle
update, got the blessing on bistol, when i thought i was switching weapons just ...
You tricked me
deft stump
You don't need to equip.
rancid jasper
You tricked me
deft stump
Easily tested on vet.
rancid jasper
The explosion radius is passive.
puncture
oh are you suggesting to use LP
and it would buff the overload explosion?
rancid jasper
Oh, puncture don't work. LP is said to work.
because no one has found a way to overload with bistol equipped or because it just doesnt affect the explosion
deft stump
Thus, why would it be a thing unless FS changes something?
pallid stump
still dont know destroy vs recover the rations
rancid jasper
Thus, why would it be a thing unless FS changes something?
fs?
deft stump
Destroy if you like pewpew, recover if more melee focused.
rancid jasper
oh
granite kelp
if rations destroyed wins we get double ammo
deft stump
Stimms suck cos limited amounts.
granite kelp
so, every staff psyker by default is gonna be recovering that shit
yeah but imagine, enhanced concentration stim
granite kelp
enhanced blue stim with recon lasgun vet
deft stump
enhanced blue stim with recon lasgun vet
My ammo efficiency.
I'm already struggling with rats grabbing them for knives.
And I'm already having to solo every pogryn spawn by magdump.
zealous wing
i'd be surprised honestly if recover doesnt keep winning for a while
purely because, ogryns and rations
also, it feels more appealing to lootgoblins
however, as far as events go, this is actually a community-wide event, so, even if its wonky, its a step in the right direction i feel
deft stump
Is also easier to press.
Try pressing the right DPAD on controller while playing anything that is 'active'.
Unless you have a long thumb, not as easy.
zealous wing
yeah the definitely need a better system, but, trying to come up with one that works for both PC and controller without interfering with much, seems difficult, least to me rn, but, im deepfried
though, to me at least, 2 is easier to hit than 1
deft stump
?????????
deft stump
2 is swap to ranged?
zealous wing
When Vet exists
vet is boring as fuck
hearty wolf
What the fuck
deft stump
When Vet exists
Scunners all!
hearty wolf
Powersword shits on everything in zealots kit combined
That reminds me
Time to change my name
zealous wing
Powersword shits on everything in zealots kit combined
can it oneshot a bonbon
deft stump
Powersword shits on everything in zealots kit combined
Is why boring.
zealous wing
or, a DH
hearty wolf
can it oneshot a bonbon
Krak
zealous wing
kraks do NOT oneshot
deft stump
I don't even touch psword for a reason.
hearty wolf
4 of them do and with havoc intensity, you get them back in like 20s
Very balanced
Perma CC otherwise
zealous wing
also, powersword felt annoying to fuckin use
special, use, special, use, special, use
deft stump
also, powersword felt annoying to fuckin use
All damage, 0 mobility.
dusk timber
special, use, special, use, special, use
Power cycler is mandatory
deft stump
I like my mobility.
hearty wolf
Special block cancel
slash slash slash special
SHING SHING SHING
The hordes are paper
The push attack BZZT
Also
The dismemberment
keen solar
All damage, 0 mobility.
The Mark 6 has great mobility lol
hearty wolf
Idk, I think Vet is so far superior that it isn't even funny
deft stump
The dismemberment
Just throw 3 frags or a krak.
deft stump
The Mark 6 has great mobility lol
Compare to say, knoife or tacaxe, no mobility.
hearty wolf
Just throw 3 frags or a krak.
Oh this is something you probably are familiar with since you play a lot of vet
keen solar
Compare to say, knoife or tacaxe, no mobility.
Well yeah no durr, but I can still keep up with the DS players.
hearty wolf
Is it normal for Krak grenades to just disappear? I swear sometimes I throw them into armour and it just...vanishes
zealous wing
if vet is so good, why does karien the vet main use arby for havoc
deft stump
this vet has opinions on combat.
You can have VoC as well as that though. 
keen solar
I just run double stamina curios since the Mark 6 has good stamina modifiers.
hearty wolf
Name change complete
pallid stump
man
deft stump
if vet is so good, why does karien the vet main use arby for havoc
You mean zealot.
pallid stump
just aint the same playing alone vs with people
dusk timber
Is it normal for Krak grenades to just disappear? I swear sometimes I throw them...
Sorry i ate them
zealous wing
you using zealot for havoc now?
buoyant maple
Idk, I think Vet is so far superior that it isn't even funny
Vet is overall strongest of the 4 classes that aren’t psyker
But vet is still not half as strong as psyker
pallid stump
Sorry i ate them
hungry little karker
buoyant maple
Psyker just too op
deft stump
you using zealot for havoc now?
Back to aurabot 3.0.
buoyant maple
Tbh u can make a case for any of the 4 classes (vet, z, og, arb) to be best at smth
But psyker is strongest class overall
zealous wing
i dont enjoy vet, really at all
deft stump
hearty wolf
Vet is overall strongest of the 4 classes that aren’t psyker
Yeah I don't count psyker because it's psyker and imo fucking boring
But yesterday, I just came back with basically 0 practice
And I was absolutely running it down in havoc
Even rotten armour and stimms were struggling to keep up pace
I'm really really glad I practiced Vet when it was asthmatic too because now I feel like I have shit tons of stamina
You just have so much output and can handle every situation
buoyant maple
Vet was hardest class for beginner
zealous wing
i thought that was psyker
buoyant maple
Sorta diff skillset
zealous wing
vet was like, your basic bitch
hearty wolf
For a beginner? Nah
deft stump
you using zealot for havoc now?
Linked the build.
hearty wolf
Unless you mean the levelling experience
buoyant maple
Psyker’s skillset plateaus after a certain point
hearty wolf
^
buoyant maple
Unlike psyker tho vet actually needs to learn to melee fight every enemy in the game without losing hp
deft stump
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f34b19b-49ad-432e-b423-ada4cdae4eaf/h4...
@zealous wing That is the Aurabot 3.0.
hearty wolf
It's also harder to push psyker's ceiling imo
hearty wolf
Unlike psyker tho vet actually needs to learn to melee fight every enemy in the ...
And this is why
zealous wing
what does that even mean
hearty wolf
And it's also weapon dependant too
buoyant maple
what does that even mean
The literal meaning
Psyker can play 90% ranged and be fine
Vet actually has to learn melee
deft stump
what does that even mean
Newbie psyker, Assail carries. Newbie vet... You have shovel.
hearty wolf
Inferno you hold M1 and press space. As a vet you need to figure out how you're going to control the space and what you can get away with. You're also a lot more vulnerable if you're stuck in a corner without VoC or something kind of utility
zealous wing
Newbie psyker, Assail carries. Newbie vet... You have shovel.
still need lvl 4 for assail
hearty wolf
And spacing is really important on vet bexsuse if you backpedal against rot armour, you're going to be crushed against a wall
zealous wing
thats 2 missions, unless they're pulled up in difficulty
dusk timber
still need lvl 4 for assail
You get that with one mission
hearty wolf
So you need to deal with it effectively and play your space as much as possible without taking damage
deft stump
still need lvl 4 for assail
And vet needs maxed out mastery and lvls to get to use guns that aren't potato.
dusk timber
thats 2 missions, unless they're pulled up in difficulty
Nah just 1 is enough
buoyant maple
And this is why
U should become exe stance melee vet
deft stump
Same for melee.
zealous wing
You get that with one mission
every time i've leveled a psyker through campaign its been 2 missions, minimum
hearty wolf
U should become exe stance melee vet
Oh? Sell me on it. I'm also curious what builds you're running because I made my own.
buoyant maple
Oh? Sell me on it. I'm also curious what builds you're running because I made my...
Watch clip above
hearty wolf
I need to jump on desktop
deft stump
Oh? Sell me on it. I'm also curious what builds you're running because I made my...
It's funny. Very traumatising as well because I expect shout.
Only ran it to mag dump pogryns.
buoyant maple
Oh? Sell me on it. I'm also curious what builds you're running because I made my...
Watch the clip and pay attention to my toughness bar
hearty wolf
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664591642967408640/1430083555605610506/54...
What the fuck lmao
Can I survive the stalkers when they're stimmed
buoyant maple
What the fuck lmao
Facetank 8 gunners
Walk up to them
Kill them
Facetank 2 ragers comboing me
Lose 0 hp
Kill them
cosmic cobalt
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664591642967408640/1430083555605610506/54...
exhilarating takedown?
buoyant maple
exhilarating takedown?
It’s good as a secondary source but I don’t take it
cosmic cobalt
for tdr
buoyant maple
I actually have a clip of what ET is like
ET + exe + CK is genuinely hilarious vs gunners
buoyant maple
exhilarating takedown?
Lemme show u what ET is like
@hearty wolf ^
Look at my toughness
hearty wolf
summer prairie
still not quite EE
hearty wolf
Dom had a moment yesterday
Thousand yard stare
200 reapers in front of him
EE proc was not found
summer prairie
with surge surge you just walk past 10 reapers
tulip kettle
i dont often miss bubble, but when i miss it, i miss it
buoyant maple
Can I survive the stalkers when they're stimmed
Idk
But
Exe stance
Super fun
Debatably better than VoC
It’s kinda a filter too
tulip kettle
it does seem pretty cool, but,
VoC is for everyone not just you
and that shouldnt be dismissed
buoyant maple
Yes, including that, I think exe is still debatably better
tulip kettle
i dont think gold tough for team mates can be beaten honestly
buoyant maple
VoC is like 2nd worst support ult in the game
tulip kettle
thats madness
restive stag
veteran-class-2
honest bloom
deft stump
veteran-class-2
GUNker.
deft stump
If vet CDR wasn’t so far behind the other classes
Overnerfed.
dusk timber
Shout gold toughness also got a direct nerf to the duration
cosmic cobalt
does enhanced target priority help with uptime or only your own kill
jovial juniper
Can I survive the stalkers when they're stimmed
Dodge
dusk timber
So 100% uptime is just straight up impossible now
buoyant maple
VoC is not as high impact as almost every other support ult besides nuncio aquila
jovial juniper
If you time it, they get locked shooting at a single place
If you mistime it
Every shot will track you
I'm so fucking scared.png
buoyant maple
does enhanced target priority help with uptime or only your own kill
EHP is just teamshare
dusk timber
Thats still pretty good tbf
buoyant maple
If EHP made it so teammates killing highlighted enemies also refresh duration
I’d take it over the other 2 subnodes
deft stump
If EHP made it so teammates killing highlighted enemies also refresh duration
I wish it did, but half the bonus or so.
deft stump
Would it be balanced?
dusk timber
Prob not
buoyant maple
Oh? Sell me on it. I'm also curious what builds you're running because I made my...
exe stance
intended use: ranged dps & recoil bonus to click head with gun
actual use: wallhack + toughness/s + stun immunity, go bonkers in melee
cosmic cobalt
exe have stun immunity?
deft stump
exe stance
intended use: ranged dps & recoil bonus to click head with gun
actual...
What click hed? Magdump bosses.
cosmic cobalt
I mean it does have it when ads
deft stump
I mean it does have it when ads
That's suppression immunity.
buoyant maple
exe have stun immunity?
Yes
deft stump
A.k.a. your gun don't kick trying to shoot while being shot.
buoyant maple
By pressing F u become zealot pro max plus
jovial juniper
Stun immune
Slow immune
Able to keep aiming when toughness breaks
cosmic cobalt
do i have to pay extra for charger
buoyant maple
The stun immune effect is especially nice because power sword has a bug where it can turn off if u attack at the same time of getting hit stunned
cosmic cobalt
how the turntables
deft stump
It's just better cast stance
Only downside is weapon swap.
buoyant maple
And the toughness gain effect being 10%/s is also huge
deft stump
Very annoying.
buoyant maple
With CK stacks u can go like 20~30% toughness per second lol
deft stump
And the toughness gain effect being 10%/s is also huge
Is 1.5%/s to team with born leader, right?
deft stump
Oh, right.
languid pine
never change fatshark
deft stump
2% of ur max toughness to team per second
So possibly more hilarious for team.
buoyant maple
So possibly more hilarious for team.
It kinda depends
BL is a secondary pick in that row
And it varies in effectiveness based on what ur teammates are
deft stump
True, but sometimes taking both paths funni.
cosmic cobalt
also your teammate should alway tske csre of their own toughness anyway lmao
buoyant maple
Let’s say u have 10 instances of CK and exe active (30%/s)
deft stump
Shocktrooper and lock and load.
cosmic cobalt
2%/s is nothing
hearty wolf
5 disconnects in 10 minutes
skill issue
buoyant maple
Which would be 12 toughness/s to team
For a psyker that gets ~150 toughness usually
deft stump
Let’s say u have 10 instances of CK and exe active (30%/s)
Also CaB.
buoyant maple
This is effectively 8%/s
But for an ogryn that gets like 220 max
That’s only 5.4%/s
deft stump
So better for Zealots and Psykers?
buoyant maple
Only psyker since they’re lowest toughness usually
BL is not great
If it was placed somewhere else in tree it’d be easier to take
But
deft stump
It's the coherency radius to get more nades back.
buoyant maple
It’s competing vs demo team so it never stood a chance
The coherency radius doesn’t matter much
Coherency is a tether system
cosmic cobalt
the coherency part is for close order drill if your teammate is bad ig
it still 1 talent point so not worth it
buoyant maple
U shouldn’t count on close order in the first place
deft stump
U shouldn’t count on close order in the first place
Unless havoc.
buoyant maple
It’s a “nice when u have it” talent
buoyant maple
Unless havoc.
Nah
It’s just a “nice when u have it” talent
Havoc especially cuz ur team will stick together more often than not
So the radius increase matters even less
deft stump
Cos if you broke coherency there, is either ppl are dying or is low havocs where some just speedrun solo.
buoyant maple
Also if u have an arb with dog aura, the dog counts as coherency unit to proc close order
Vet + arb duo is very good because of this
cosmic cobalt
yaoi
white valley
coherency radius increases can be helpful even in havoc
hearty wolf
I think it can be helpful but the opportunity cost is so fucking massive on Vet, it's never worth
cosmic cobalt
it only useful when you have bad teammates
hearty wolf
Vet has so many high value nodes
dusk timber
I think it'd be funny if coherency radius increase talents also applies to teammates
white valley
a 14m radius is nothing to scoff at
deft stump
Also, isn't is mostly to basically guarantee teammates going to gold with shout as well?
dusk timber
I think it'd be funny if coherency radius increase talents also applies to teamm...
Specially if they stacked
buoyant maple
Coherency being a tether already means radius increase matters less
hearty wolf
I'm personally not a fan of contingent "what if" talents anyway
"What if my teammate is in narnia and not in coherency"
not my problem man
not giving up 20% damage or nades for them playing wrong
deft stump
I'm personally not a fan of contingent "what if" talents anyway
What if I roll 5% for nades or 20% twinned.
buoyant maple
Tether means u don’t have to have 3 other people in your coherency radius to max coherency
It means as long as these other 3 people are in coherency with each other
deft stump
I have gone 57 throws no twinned before.
white valley
Tether means u don’t have to have 3 other people in your coherency radius to max...
not how it works
buoyant maple
As long as 1 of them is in ur coherency radius, u have max coherency
white valley
this is misinformation
dusk timber
Specially if they stacked
Like having a vet, ogryn and psyker with their coherence increase talents gives everyone a total +200% coherency radius
zealous wing
honestly not sure to be more impressed that it took so long, or that you counted
AND kept track
dusk timber
Tbh twinned should have some sort of pity system
deft stump
honestly not sure to be more impressed that it took so long, or that you counted
I started after the 6th throw.
zealous wing
Tbh twinned should have some sort of pity system
like a +5% chance per throw, resetting on successful twin throw?
dusk timber
like a +5% chance per throw, resetting on successful twin throw?
I was thinking more like +10/20% but ye something like that
deft stump
Bonus. The twinned happened when I threw it to stagger a boss to help someone.
.-.
I guess the boss gets extra bleed stacks.
marble crater
I am pretty sure coherency is not a chain like that
Coherency is a chain
tulip kettle
white valley
Coherency is a chain
Where can I find proof of this?
dusk timber
Kuli guides
deft stump
But really, my avg twinned is more towards 14 throws per twinned.
buoyant maple
On 58th throw.
I’m crying u rolled a 0.0003% chance lmfao
zealous wing
good vibes
deft stump
I’m crying u rolled a 0.0003% chance lmfao
PTSD day. And it was the only twinned that day as well.
I just flipped table and stopped bothering. No twinned the next 2 missions.
Then we stopped playing for the night.
zealous wing
no twin grenades for you
buoyant maple
this is misinformation
“Misinformation”
white valley
“Misinformation”
I remember reading that this is misinfo a couple months ago, but I stand corrected I suppose
marble crater
More like 2%.
Game knows Karien only needs 2% to carry
buoyant maple
Game knows Karien only needs 2% to carry
She rolled a 0.0003% chance lmao
deft stump
She rolled a 0.0003% chance lmao
Of the worst kind.
zealous wing
0.000003% *
hearty wolf
Are you new
marble crater
She rolled a 0.0003% chance lmao
other people dream of hitting those odds
cosmic cobalt
it basically the same rate as winning the lottery
deft stump
<:chadgryn:1161142998214656090> other people dream of hitting those odds
I want my 5 star gacha hero, not fail to roll twinned reeeeeeeeeeee
marble crater
We can't always get what we want, Karien
deft stump
Because the rate is the same.
zealous wing
at that point, twinned really is a "what if", why bother with the talent point at that point 
buoyant maple
Grenadier is good
deft stump
Then again, I rolled a free arcana after a bot game.
buoyant maple
For shredder frag
patent mango
what about the real meta: smoke nades
zealous wing
IF it procs, which, in karien's case, clearly not a guarentee
deft stump
And it's a marketable/tradable one.
marble crater
We can't always get what we want, Karien
I for example want the mobile game Terra Battle back, but that will never happen, they shut down the servers years ago
buoyant maple
what about the real meta: smoke nades
I still think smoke can use some buffs
deft stump
at that point, twinned really is a "what if", why bother with the talent point a...
Still +1 grenade now.
patent mango
i think smoke is the worst nade in the game tbh
zealous wing
agreed
cosmic cobalt
yeah if you don't play havoc
patent mango
not that i ever see it being used
zealous wing
i have, it sucks
patent mango
because its eeping gas with how lame it is
cosmic cobalt
I still think smoke can use some buffs
their duration need to be increased but i think they're fine
solid pond
zealous wing
if i wanted to not see where the enemies were, i'd want a poxgas modifier or lights out or vent purge
cosmic cobalt
maybe 20s by default instead of 15s
deft stump
Only good in obscura dens for memes.
zealous wing
their duration need to be increased but i think they're fine
they need to be changed so WE can fucking see at least SOMEWHAT
patent mango
they need to actually do something
buoyant maple
their duration need to be increased but i think they're fine
Nah I think they need to do more
deft stump
mod moment
Consoles exist.
cosmic cobalt
they could make the smoke transparent or shit
zealous wing
the answer to making smoke grenades less annoying shouldnt be a mod
cosmic cobalt
Consoles exist.
its okay console isn't real
buoyant maple
I think smoke should have counter vs more elites and specialists
deft stump
@marble crater Someone says you don't exist.
quartz barn
Smoke preventing line of sight??????
buoyant maple
It’s also not conveyed to the player well how smoke works
They want u to use smoke like the smoke bomb from assassins creed
And not like a smoke grenade in counter strike
tulip kettle
i mean, i have noticed
that smokes turn captain ai off
thats value just by itself
buoyant maple
Yea they really want u to use it like an AC smoke bomb
That’s how it’s intended to be used
tulip kettle
if theres a smoke they just stand there afk for like 15 seconds which is honestly really good in havoc
is also really good vs the firing squads
buoyant maple
I think it needs more effects to counter specialists and elites
tulip kettle
six was running them and i genuinely felt like they were far more impactful than kraks would have been
buoyant maple
In some cases they are
cosmic cobalt
I mean smoke basically invalidates ranged enemies and flamer
tulip kettle
in the same way bubble trivialises burgle, smokes trivialise captains
and i think thats pretty neat
hear me out
10% toughness/second while in smoke
buoyant maple
No
cosmic cobalt
burgle get trivialized by having space to move around him
hearty wolf
absoluetely not
cosmic cobalt
but that isn't possible on some map
tulip kettle
but bubble does that 🙁
cosmic cobalt
10% toughness/second while in smoke
no
patent mango
let smoke give a movement speed buff
tulip kettle
tfw several people are typing
deft stump
Smoke randomly 'staggers' things in it with a ramping chance.
buoyant maple
let smoke give a movement speed buff
Not needed tbh
I think smoke needs more effects that help to hold in it
rich spindle
10% toughness/second while in smoke
Good idea. The exact smoke radius is kind of hard to see too, so maybe you could change it to a semi transparent kind of bubble shape to represent smoke
deft stump
It's choking gas, right???
buoyant maple
Because currently bombers completely fuck smoke over
tulip kettle
I think smoke needs more effects that help to hold in it
like, idk, giving toughness per second? 🙃
buoyant maple
Would be neat if smoke did 2 more things:
- Pox gas and fire cannot go off inside smoke (and smoke when thrown nullifies existing gas & fire)
- Enemies inside smoke cloud have reduced stagger reduction
buoyant maple
like, idk, giving toughness per second? 🙃
Nah
buoyant maple
I don’t think it needs toughness gain
Bubble does that alrdy, smoke needs to do smth different
buoyant maple
Who knows
deft stump
Like those fire dispersal bombs.
zealous wing
do emolation grenades do that?
tulip kettle
nope
zealous wing
thought so
tired estuary
I don't think smokes need shit b/c the stuff they do is fucking broken when used properly
tulip kettle
can have friendly fire on top of enemy fire
deft stump
I don't think smokes need shit b/c the stuff they do is fucking broken when used...
Do nothing at 300 ping lul. Just pray.
buoyant maple
I don't think smokes need shit b/c the stuff they do is fucking broken when used...
Nah they def can use a bit more
patent mango
i dont think smokes are real right now
tired estuary
idk I think its fine that something can force you out of smonkzone besides Too Much Armor
tulip kettle
make it tied to tinkerer
instead of increased duration they get increased radius and environmental effects nullification, think that would be pretty good
pale prairie
tulip kettle
to be fair, destroy nearly winning today
but also, why would we want to give up the stim buffs
tired estuary
yeah if extra stuff came with them not lasting for half a minute that could work
tulip kettle
they are kind of insane
theres also a mod now to auto destroy the rations so no need to click em, which is neat
marble crater
<@417971646356389900> Someone says you don't exist.
tulip kettle
deft stump
yeah if extra stuff came with them not lasting for half a minute that could work
Limited amount and selfish means...
pale prairie
https://tenor.com/view/b99-brooklyn-99-brooklyn-nine-nine-ray-holt-captain-raymo...
Man it’s like stumbling into a Roblox chat
pale prairie
Limited amount and selfish means...
Karien gonna steal all my rashuns
deft stump
Karien gonna steal all my rashuns
They go boom. More ammo for my recon gud.
pale prairie
They go boom. More ammo for my recon gud.
Lies you use bistol religiously
Second coming of Clad
I have seen it with my own eyes
deft stump
Lies you use bistol religiously
I have 3 build.
pale prairie
BISTOL
deft stump
Not counting 3 'nade builds that are clones except nade choice.
That's bistol builds.
I have 2 recons, 1 onslaught, one 'saner'.
And a plasma build that IDK why I have.
pale prairie
It’s someone that uses bistol out of stubbornness not because it’s good
deft stump
And shotpistol.
deft stump
It’s someone that uses bistol out of stubbornness not because it’s good
I use it for lethal prox.
plucky flax
Does the cheese still work?
deft stump
'Nade boom beeg gud.
plucky flax
I need it to cheese
deft stump
Does the cheese still work?
Dunno. Can run later if you wanna try.
pale prairie
Agent lay off the dairy bruh
plucky flax
Agent lay off the dairy bruh
I like cheese 
pale prairie
I like cheese <:PeepoHappy:402867832175460363>
https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-cooked-hes-cooked-you're-cooked-ur-cooked-gif-16603214519610947661
deft stump
I like cheese <:PeepoHappy:402867832175460363>
But like midnight my time if so. 45 mins later. If you find others, just do lul.
plucky flax
But like midnight my time if so. 45 mins later. If you find others, just do lul.
Is okie
You sleep baby girl
Sry that was my cat
marble crater
Very sus
royal totem
What do these buffed stims do?
tulip kettle
increased attack speed, dodge distance, total stamina etc
stackable buff per stim taken
that lasts until mission end
marble crater
We actually need to use our stims now?
tulip kettle
yeah just take every stim you find and go brrrrrrrr
tulip kettle
they wouldnt use them anyway.
graceful arch
Play knife primary just to get to the stimms faster
marble crater
Any chance attack speed also translates to charge speed for staves?
graceful arch
tulip kettle
you get reload speed, i have not seen if you get better quelling because i didnt play psyker yet today
though it was to the point i could not click fast enough to keep up with DS LMB spam
which is funny
buoyant maple
Any chance attack speed also translates to charge speed for staves?
Ofc not
marble crater
sad
pale prairie
https://tenor.com/view/super-recipes-foodie-delicious-homemade-foodiegram-gif-22...
WHERE IS THE CHEESE GOING
tulip kettle
WHERE IS THE CHEESE GOING
ITS NOT FUCKING MOZZERELLA
deft stump
stackable buff per stim taken
So selfish buffs.
pale prairie
ITS NOT FUCKING MOZZERELLA
I mean I had suspicions but I am no expert on all dairy products
Is it like a white cheddar?
tulip kettle
mozzerella
and calling american hard white cheese "cheddar" is also a hate crime, but i guess so
marble crater
white valley
Is it like a white cheddar?
mozzarella is a very soft, mild cheese
cheddar is hard and has a more pronounced flavor
tulip kettle
cheddar is cheese that has gone through the cheddaring process
pale prairie
mozzarella is a very soft, mild cheese
I am aware of mozzarella as a general cheese category but I also know there are myriads of ways to prepare food and age/change cheese in particular.
I was referencing the cheese that is being cut in doms video which is white but also hard
marble crater
I thought it had to be from the cheddar region
ripe obsidian
Cheese.
white valley
I am aware of mozzarella as a general cheese category but I also know there are ...
that shit is yellow fam, not white
tulip kettle
yes but its referred to as "white cheese"
royal totem
I like comitting cheese crimes
tulip kettle
and the yellow colour just comes from an added colourant called annato, traditionally
(i make cheese)
pale prairie
and calling american hard white cheese "cheddar" is also a hate crime, but i gue...
What gave away the cheese in your gif as being American hard white cheese
tulip kettle
because its soft and doesnt crumble
a true cheddar wouldnt slice like that, it would crumble
marble crater
Just like people
pale prairie
Nah cause cheese never pings me with “um ackshually”
tulip kettle
ooof
but yeah cheddar goes through extra steps to remove extra whey, making it drier, saltier and more acidic
im a nerd about 2 things in my spare time - the adeptus mechanicus, and cheese
never the twain shall meet
pale prairie
Unless…
Cyborg cheese
Cheese making is an interesting hobby. Bet it takes patience which Fatshark has helped you cultivate.
tulip kettle
you can make quick cheese in about an hour or so, but good tasty cheese does indeed take patience, and a dark cupboard, and sourcing interesting bacteria cultures
zealous wing
cant wait to find out if
a) my laptop has space for darktide
b) my laptop can run darktide
c) if my MILs internet can handle darktide
d) if my skills can handle laptop darktide with no proper desk
e) if not laptop with no desk, then can i set up controller configuration on steam for darktide effectively
f) will it be skissue that way also
g) give up, play tiny glade or vintage story or some other cozy game instead
hearty wolf
you can make quick cheese in about an hour or so, but good tasty cheese does ind...
that's totally what he said
fuck im crying
i cant
it hurtd
s
im coughing
im oging to die
tulip kettle
that's totally what he said
i wasnt disagreeing!
also, fuck you, i hope you do
always bullying me
royal totem
cant wait to find out if
a) my laptop has space for darktide
b) my laptop can ru...
Were about to be without hexis?
tulip kettle
cant wait to find out if
a) my laptop has space for darktide
b) my laptop can ru...
play cosy game
pale prairie
cant wait to find out if
a) my laptop has space for darktide
b) my laptop can ru...
So many ifs
marble crater
I think Hexis might be addicted to Darktide
zealous wing
dont have animal crossing, never appealed to me
and yeah, cozy game probably way to go
if any game
marble crater
Europa Universalis is a cozy game
tulip kettle
something to keep your mind busy is sensible
i recommend the chit show to kill an hour, if you havent seen it
deft stump
cant wait to find out if
a) my laptop has space for darktide
b) my laptop can ru...
Controller is fine. Play melee more or staffs (Ask Sut on this.).
hearty wolf
Hex where is h40
zealous wing
thats console specific, idk how steam config will go, have to do it all manually
did it for vintage story though so controller is feasable
brain
dying
pale prairie
Europa Universalis is a cozy game
No actually frostpunk 2
deft stump
thats console specific, idk how steam config will go, have to do it all manually
IDK, I just use the Alt 1 thing.
marble crater
No actually frostpunk 2
I don't pay for ultimate anymore, so no Frostpunk 2 for me
zealous wing
honestly might just drown myself in artwork, but ill try to keep the game suggestions in mind if i get the itch
rancid jasper
cant wait to find out if
a) my laptop has space for darktide
b) my laptop can ru...
VINTAGE STORY MENTIONED
plucky flax
Any ration cheeser 
deft stump
Any ration cheeser <:peepoga:585595449558171660>
If you gib stimms so I can run terrible builds on memes, yes. Because perma buffs. Wanna see how cracked it gets.
plucky flax
Idk how that works.
plucky flax
Oh nice.
deft stump
Why wanna greeble and use as many to see how silly I can make my recon go.
zealous wing
i hope buffed stims stay a while. sounds fun
deft stump
i hope buffed stims stay a while. sounds fun
Is selfish though, so expect toxicity.
rain meadow
plucky flax
I started a private game so if anyone wanna cheese just join.
I'm going to get a bunch so at the end can quit and join less.
zealous wing
thought they fixed that
zealous wing
idk
plucky flax
No point doing this anymore then.
zealous wing
are the numbers in the millions again
ripe obsidian
thought they fixed that
Did they? I was doing it successfully like 10 hours ago
zealous wing
idk i was told there was probably a fix with the score reset, didnt test,
reset was i think 9h22m ago
ripe obsidian
Well, maybe I got lucky with my timing
One day Fatshark might release new maps. One day.
zealous wing
i could very well be wrong tbh
too stressed and exhausted to do much, thinking or testing
white valley
One day Fatshark might release new maps. One day.
There is speculation that the reason why they haven't is because they're cooking something big
Such as the second hive city
royal totem
Who knows with obesefish
ripe obsidian
There is speculation that the reason why they haven't is because they're cooking...
One can but hope.
Gib Chaos Wastes
white valley
Didn't the creative director also say last year in an interview that his biggest wish is a new faction? Think he did
pants thieves
what's happening to stims today, do we know how much stronger they are?
verbal thistle
Havoc stims?
white valley
no, the event is making stims stronger or something
verbal thistle
I see
plucky flax
@deft stump my mission option
But it put me in sea
And it was hell when lag spike hits
@tulip kettle wanna play or?
hearty wolf
I could do a round
hearty wolf
As long as it's not ascension riser
plucky flax
It's magistrati rot stim
plucky flax
Depend on the cc and how many blue stims cc-ignore stuff they pop
hearty wolf
Logging on now
Need to find that link of what stimms do
Iirc blue is 80% dr, orange is 50 bullets per shot
and red is melee attack speed
and all have some kind of stagger resist with blue making then insanely hard to stagger
plucky flax
Dom is in game but looks like afk.
hearty wolf
@tulip kettle @tulip kettle @tulip kettle @tulip kettle @tulip kettle @tulip kettle
I'll call him
deft stump
Jesus, the stimm buff if you manage to loot gobbo is rediculous.
Like no hit heresy?
Ezy.
Have 10+ stam on knoife vet.
summer prairie
how does it work, you get a permanent buff when you use a stimm and it stacks?