psyker-class

[rancid jasper]

i'm using bgs. so probably anticipation, right? seeing as bgs has terrible mobility and relies on it

i'm also using scrier's, so JaD might compromise my scrier's time

[zealous wing]

we died like 17 times on an h40 rotten armour because of about 20 crushers+ maulers, ragers, and more, in a pack

all it takes is a chokepoint and room to set some fire out

[tulip kettle]

and you think it would be better to smite here?

[summer prairie]

no

[zealous wing]

but, agent was on flaming duty

[tulip kettle]

thats the argument

[summer prairie]

but it might save your team

[tulip kettle]

im saying, do this instead of smiting

[summer prairie]

because in those 30+ seconds they would be overheading instead

[tulip kettle]

yeah but i could just push them and kill them

[zealous wing]

you only prolong the inevitable if you arent dealing damage to them

[summer prairie]

the point of smite usage is to reposition and not die

[white valley]

If you want the hard CC as a psyker, trauma staff is right there

[summer prairie]

then you can do your normal thing

instead of keeping smiting

[zealous wing]

i wonder if agent clipped any of the looping from the other day

[summer prairie]

and you don't run it with purg

[zealous wing]

you dont need smite to reposition, ever

[summer prairie]

no point comparing a build you aren't running

because your build does other things primarily, smite is just an additional tool

[zealous wing]

if anything, smite risks you being UNABLE to reposition

[long saddle]

smite is way too many steps to reposition

[summer prairie]

what

[long saddle]

tap shriek once and you get similar results

[summer prairie]

ok buddy

[zealous wing]

charge, smite, release, THEN move, vs, shriek, move

[long saddle]

how much time do you need lol

[summer prairie]

I haven't even ran smite in 2 years

[zealous wing]

even better, shriek WHILE moving

then why are you arguing

[summer prairie]

because it's obviously useful

[long saddle]

to who

[zealous wing]

then use it

[summer prairie]

you are taking it instead of some passive KF damage with some build

not building around it

[zealous wing]

if its so useful, use it

[tulip kettle]

but those builds are just, worse

than what you could and should be doing

[long saddle]

if you want a blitz with no investment just go assail

[zealous wing]

its more goated than inferno to you, so, use it

[summer prairie]

surge surge with smite is definitely higher utility than surge surge with kf

and you lose like 150k damage

which is nothing

[tulip kettle]

i mean idk about that

and if youre running surge surge

i would rather you just kill the crushers

[long saddle]

it's not higher utility if I never press the button to bring up my blitz

[tulip kettle]

when im busy burning and pushing them

no?

[deft stump]

But syllo, that's all my damage.

[summer prairie]

I would love to kill crushers but sometimes you have to make space and reposition

[long saddle]

force push, shriek, trauma

[zealous wing]

hasnt used smite in 2 years, through many changes of the game
"guys its useful for repositioning i promise, i just never use it. its more helpful than inferno for killing crushers, trust me bro"

[summer prairie]

You are right, I don't know what I'm talking about

And I totally said it's for killing crushers, yes

[long saddle]

killing is forever the best cc

[tulip kettle]

i never said that, but what we did say was that smite is bad for x y and z reasons

and you could just be killing them instead

[summer prairie]

yes, and you are wrong but it's not worth discussing

since points have been made

and learning hasn't been done

[zealous wing]

"youre wrong, heres the evidence"
trust me

[long saddle]

just smite
leaves

[tulip kettle]

and then you said infenro is bad at killing crushers, and i said, "no it isnt, heres some evidence", and you said " well yeah the infinite cleave scaling is obviously going to be good"

[summer prairie]

I said it's slow

[zealous wing]

if its slow, then whats faster

[tulip kettle]

and i said please show something faster

or just tell me

[zealous wing]

its slow compared to fucking WHAT

[tulip kettle]

i would believe you

[summer prairie]

depends on how many crushers there are and whether they are spread

[tulip kettle]

i know you know your stuff dude

but cmon we all play havoc here

[summer prairie]

do they

[tulip kettle]

weve all seen the absolut armour trains

and i think nothing handles them like inferno pushing does

[deft stump]

Is more, most of the time, they don't mass up THAT close.

[tulip kettle]

they dont need to be that close

[zealous wing]

you shoulda seen agents train

they fucking were 😭

[deft stump]

Unless they are being funneled into a tight corridor.

[zealous wing]

yup, or, a tight stairwell around and around

[deft stump]

But say on an avg wider map, naw.

[zealous wing]

i wish i'd clipped that, but i was too busy watching

[summer prairie]

It's also worse in the sense that with melee you are actually removing crushers constantly, while with purg the count stays the same

[zealous wing]

ideally, it would be both, at the same time

one flamer, and others killing

[rancid jasper]

how much does everyone value stun immunity? is it the kind of thing to you where if it's going to matter you're probably dying no matter what in that situation anyway?

[zealous wing]

one at a time is progress, but so is sudden freedom

[tulip kettle]

i will also say, i am bad at the game, and a better player would do it better

[white valley]

this assumes your team isn't hitting them

[zealous wing]

bullshit, sir

[tulip kettle]

but this felt very safe to me with the pushing

and they died pretty damn quick

[white valley]

the reality is damaging the crusher pack makes your team kill individual crushers quicker

[summer prairie]

I do it when I think I've to play defensively

Otherwise more flames is more damage

[tulip kettle]

i dont know what else i could bring that would kill them even close to that quickly, while also providing CC

in a choke or corridor it would have been easier

[white valley]

only an ogryn could do something similar to that afaik

bullyclubgryn or branx, or rumbler

[zealous wing]

what is this number?

[white valley]

crit chance

[tulip kettle]

i would feel far less safe because, afaik, neither of those melee will reliably stagger em

and yeah, crit chance

[white valley]

bully club can literally knock them down

[tulip kettle]

dont you have to hit them a bunch?

i dont play much ogryn

i know for me as an ogryn i would likely die there

but again, im bad

and yeah a better player would probably stab em in the face more and push less but as i said, this way im providing solid CC for my team mates to safely hit too

[tulip kettle]

do you mean stun immunty on enemies, or yourself?

the only place i have found stun immunity useful on psyker is for smite builds to stop you getting knocked out of smiting by a poxwalker from the side

[rancid jasper]

doesnt stun immunity make you immune to slowdown from gunners? or is that a different thing entirely

[zealous wing]

suppressiom

[tulip kettle]

if im being shot by gunners and its not for a fraction of a second between EE procs or slides between cover etc im likely dead tbh

[rancid jasper]

nah thats different i think

that's the accuracy decrease if you're under fire

[tulip kettle]

it doesnt stop you being slowed by gunners no

or the stagger on toughness break, interestingly

[zealous wing]

stun is things that knock you from tasks

i have the stun immunity perk on zealot, lets me do tasks even if i get smacks

doesnt apply to carrying

[rancid jasper]

whatt why

[tulip kettle]

idk

[rancid jasper]

that is silly

[white valley]

doesn't TWBS from zealot prevent gunner slowdown and toughness stagger too?

[tulip kettle]

maybe on zealot idk

but immaterial focus doesnt work for it

[rancid jasper]

is there a list available of what it does counteract?

[tulip kettle]

i dont know, i doubt it

generally stuns are what happens when you get hit in melee

i also think that, as immaterial focus only works at critical peril, its use cases are very low

and psyker has so many good nodes i cant see the value in taking it over something else on anything other than meme smite builds

which as we were just discussing, are bad for other reasons

[long saddle]

immaterial focus prevents stuns at critical peril and 4 secs after

[tulip kettle]

right, sure

pedantry

[long saddle]

oh sorry I didn't read you said that already

it's not too hard to sit around critical peril tho

[tulip kettle]

thinking about it

it would make it easier to do res

[rancid jasper]

Idk about you but when i play psyker i'm at most 4 seconds away from critical peril the vast majority of the time

[long saddle]

KD is safer

[rancid jasper]

gotta get those peril buffs up

[tulip kettle]

if you are running KD

yeah if you are also running KD

without KD it wont help anyway

but in the case where you are ressing and get hit enough to get broken out of it

it might give you that extra second to get it off

idk

[long saddle]

revive maxxing is p smart to do on most classes now anyway

[tulip kettle]

nah you just let the zealot revive wherever pssible

[zealous wing]

use a talent point for a res if, or use a curio to get a lil boost, or, yeah , let me do it xD

[tulip kettle]

and if not rely on KD to see you through

[long saddle]

I've started to drop KD more now that the tree is better

[zealous wing]

i take my job as a shroudfield very seriously

[tulip kettle]

but i also cant imagine spending talent points on something that has an uptime of essentially 0.001% of the time

when we have so many good talents

[long saddle]

KD?

[tulip kettle]

kinetic deflection

[long saddle]

no I meant is that what you meant

[tulip kettle]

"block for peril"

[long saddle]

because it helps with monsters as well

[zealous wing]

no he means IF

[rancid jasper]

kinetic deflection is great for specific scenarios

[long saddle]

ok

[rancid jasper]

and devils claw

[tulip kettle]

oh yeah sorry, i think KD is really very good

[long saddle]

ye IF is more for the 10% DR

[tulip kettle]

i was talking about IF

[rancid jasper]

what

[rancid jasper]

immaterial focus has insane uptime wdym

[tulip kettle]

bi wouldnt spend a talent point on IF. i would on KD

[rancid jasper]

if youre playing psyker you should be edging your peril for buffs anyways

[zealous wing]

uptime and useful uptime are different things

[tulip kettle]

dude

[long saddle]

I think they meant the critical peril stun immunity part

[tulip kettle]

how often are you needing stun immunity

[rancid jasper]

yeah, i mean that too

[tulip kettle]

and if i want DR there are again better talents

[rancid jasper]

oh they mean useful uptime?

ok

[tulip kettle]

like sure its active a lot but when are you actually making any use of it

[zealous wing]

just because youre in an empty room and hit critical doesnt mean its useful, even though its uptime

[tulip kettle]

as i said, like 0.001% of the time. seems like a wasted point

[zealous wing]

the only way to know for sure if its helping is to run it a while, be used to it, then remove it

[long saddle]

at least it doesn't kill you like jad :^)

[tulip kettle]

and i would rather just take OWtW

and get 33% DR at high peril

[zealous wing]

IF is out of the way

[long saddle]

TDR

[tulip kettle]

right

again

[zealous wing]

its above OWTW, optional, entirely

[tulip kettle]

pedantry

if youre taking hp damage

[long saddle]

nah that one matters

[tulip kettle]

youre having a bad time

and 10% DR onto your hp is not gonna save you

[long saddle]

im health maxxing psyker always

(never)

[zealous wing]

JAD though, i am mixed on

[long saddle]

or ok no on bubble knight

[zealous wing]

its nice, but also, annoying

[rancid jasper]

WE vs OWTW?

[summer prairie]

Does stun immunity prevent enemy interrupting your fgs special or is that even a thing anymore

[tulip kettle]

i will test, one moment

[long saddle]

it should if you have it charged and not fired it

[summer prairie]

They did some weapon special changes at some point, removing annoyances

[long saddle]

yeah I just don't remember the exact change

[plucky flax]

No i only play sedition

[long saddle]

because I know I've lost a full charged slash after the changes

[zealous wing]

i indeed remember my special swipe being interrupted and losing it, many times

[summer prairie]

I think you used to lose the charge, but you can still be interrupted

[zealous wing]

worst though, is when they knock me out of alignment and it goes into the ground or air

[long saddle]

I always crouch before slashing

[tulip kettle]

i dont lose charge either during the animation or after with IF active

[zealous wing]

i usually do, while sliding if possible, but, if theres no room and i need the slash NOW, it gets fucked :(

but, we're psyker mains, we're used to edging

[long saddle]

i usually dodge back, crouch, slash

[zealous wing]

same

usually

could be some other weirdness causing it though

it doesnt happen often, but enough for me to remember it rather than a one off fluke

[long saddle]

im just scared I'll aim too high so

[tulip kettle]

im not pro enough to play sedition

have not managed to unlock that difficulty

[long saddle]

sedition was the cut difficulty right

[zealous wing]

||yes||

[long saddle]

ye I still see it on gameslantern on the build editor

[zealous wing]

lol

that should be how we all mark nonserious builds

[long saddle]

make sedition only build

charged strike mk6 knife is def sedition build

hit 3 ppl with heavy and then they explode

it even bisects crushers and bulwarks sometimes

0 soulblaze as well

[deft stump]

Excuse me, my memes work on Heresy.

I mean, why would you tank a DH? MM on heresy.

[long saddle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0288403-5cbf-4607-9d3a-e24e80b02e32/charged-strike-knife sedition marked

it doesn't even say sedition tho, sad

[rancid jasper]

did WF get changed to do what people actually thought it did [4 stacks per enemy not 1 stack for 4 enemies]

i noticed the description has the word "each" now in it

[marble crater]

Nothing changed

[tulip kettle]

nope it works same as it always did, 4 enemies get 1 stack

[white valley]

it's still the same, goated

[tulip kettle]

ah but you see, now its good and meta, whereas before everybody shat on it 😉

even though it didnt change at all

[rancid jasper]

wildfire + soul drinker is always nice

[zealous wing]

i never understood the distaste

[rancid jasper]

it's good and meta now? it's finally getting the recognition it deserves? why?

[white valley]

it has always been good

[zealous wing]

more fire is more fire

[rancid jasper]

guess people were disappointed when they realized it wasnt 4 per enemy

[tulip kettle]

because souldrinker moved i guess

[cosmic cobalt]

because it wasn't competing with fucking pa ig

[rancid jasper]

i used to take both

[rancid jasper]

im kinda shocked pa didnt get nerfed

[cosmic cobalt]

It did

[rancid jasper]

oh. i didnt even notice

it's still insane

[rancid jasper]

how much was the nerf?

[tulip kettle]

in some ways its better

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah because it went from teamwise to only you

and you can take it with assail now

[rancid jasper]

i see

they left a typo/broken english in the description lol

"100% cooldown regeneration for 3s you or an ally in Coherency kills an Elite or Specialist enemy"

two typos actually

they just said "100%" not "+100%".

"100%" by itself implies that nothing changes at all lmao

it just does nothing

[jovial rover]

What's the best gear to wear to look the most like a skitari as a pysker?

[cosmic cobalt]

psykernetic aura got nerfed lmao

[nocturne dust]

Appropriate but how dare they

[white valley]

well, deserved

[cosmic cobalt]

now you have to actually upkeep gaze for permanent uptime

[rancid jasper]

still a musthave tbh

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah nothing changed build wise because it the only cdr

[white valley]

Ep charged strike is gone

[nocturne dust]

hahahahahahahhahaha

no

[plucky flax]

What's walk it off?

[cosmic cobalt]

it was fun while it lasted

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1424791380911194253/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2025-10-06_11-11-51_PM.mp4?ex=68f70820&is=68f5b6a0&hm=96327c3c3bba81af312e87c08c83984a26fe47faa92e27a469457cc68d021f43&

[rancid jasper]

and it's also required for the best aura

and its two potential competitors, IF and EE are either mid or situational [EE is amazing dont get me wrong but it's much more situational than PA]

[summer prairie]

walk it off is the stamina toughness one

[cosmic cobalt]

the one you take when not running dog

[summer prairie]

they nerfed captain healths in uprising/malice, finally

[cosmic cobalt]

toughness on stamina use

[summer prairie]

"Lowered spawn chance for the Scab Plasma Gunner during events." aww

[dusk wren]

have they still not fixed the bug that spreads soulblaze to daemon hosts and triggers them

[cosmic cobalt]

no unless your build is dogshit nothing compete with psykernetic

[plucky flax]

Oh that's a good talent

[marble crater]

Why can other classes have 100% for 3 seconds, but on psyker it's too strong curious

[tulip kettle]

probably the skitarii backpack, metal leg, eye lenses and red robes?

[rancid jasper]

i love the psyker abilities, they're all so busted in their own special way

like they're all broken and yet all valid
i do wish the other node was an actual option on shriek tho

[white valley]

psykinetic's triggers on ally kills too

Vet's only triggers on SELF specialist kills

[cosmic cobalt]

do nothing

win

[marble crater]

But my allies suck, so why do I need to get nerfed for it?

[obtuse walrus]

I mean the best thing about wildfire is that it pairs well with kinetic flayer. You spread some fire and random elites are getting brain bursted

🔥

[white valley]

Nah, the best thing about wildfire is prestacking and reducing ttk on hordes

[rancid jasper]

souldrinker pairing is amazing too. better imo

[rancid jasper]

wf in general is great

[jovial rover]

How do I unlock the in game currency to get them though and we're would I find those sorry I'm still new

[summer prairie]

"Fixed an issue where Psyker’s ‘Charged Strike’ talent electrocution damage would scale with the ‘Empowered Psionics’ Keystone damage boost."

[tulip kettle]

you dont unlock it, you buy it

its from the person in the mourningstar hub called hallowette at the "commodores vestures"

[nocturne dust]

Definitely needed, Charged Strike might've actually done something and we can't have that

[jovial rover]

Ah okie thank you

[tulip kettle]

its just standard MTX with a rotating fomo shop

[obtuse walrus]

[plucky flax]

Psykenetic aura nerf it's joeover

[cosmic cobalt]

it was op

literally the strongest mixed horde clear in the game

[jovial rover]

So there's no way of getting In game currency without actaully having to buy it with real money like there's no missions or challenges or smth that give the currency to get it or?

[tulip kettle]

precisely

[cosmic cobalt]

outside flamer and purge staff

[dusk wren]

was charged strike fixed

[jovial rover]

Ah okie just wanted to clarify

[tulip kettle]

there are a number of ingame currencies

but they are used for weapons and stuff

cosmetics are from the paid shop

[jovial rover]

Okie thank youu

[nocturne dust]

Oh yeah, definitely. Certainly not trauma, or inferno

[cosmic cobalt]

can you read

[jovial rover]

Huh

[tulip kettle]

not adressed to you

they are arguing amongst thmselves

[summer prairie]

even with max cdr, you can't quite chain SG now but it's only a matter of seconds

I think

[nocturne dust]

I can. My statement stands.

[tulip kettle]

yeah it does happen

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah again

can you read

[tulip kettle]

but obviosuly its rng on PA

[summer prairie]

with the new patch that is

[tulip kettle]

as in the one they JUST released?

[summer prairie]

yes

[tulip kettle]

oh, i havent seen it yet, what changed

[summer prairie]

PA is 60% for 5s

[plucky flax]

60% now

Rather than 100%

[tulip kettle]

ooof

ouch

owie

[summer prairie]

slightly better uptime I guess

[tulip kettle]

my bones

[plucky flax]

Rip creeping flames spam

[jovial rover]

Ah I see

[summer prairie]

it doesn't change the spam

[jovial rover]

Would a shotgun be good with pysker class because the crowd controll shove ability thingy?

[summer prairie]

it's still shriek every 14 seconds

[cosmic cobalt]

deserved

tbh

[plucky flax]

In a massive horde it's less if you have constant uptime

[summer prairie]

it's more an issue for purg without ER

[plucky flax]

Between 100% cdr and 60% cdr

[tulip kettle]

honestly, psyker is extremely varied and can run almost anything. But until you are level 30 it feels underwhelming

karien has a good build for beginners, something to do with bees?

basically you want to get the blitz called "assail" and mainly use that.

[cosmic cobalt]

assail is the only usable one until you maxed out lol

[jovial rover]

I wanna try running a shotgun with pysker because it seems great for like just like shoveing them all and then blasting lol

[tulip kettle]

yeah shotguns can be good but, this game has quite a lot of stuff to think about

[jovial rover]

Like with the shove ability thingy

[tulip kettle]

generally you want a tool to do everything

[jovial rover]

Idk what it's called

[tulip kettle]

later, you will learn that the "venting shriek" is actually just a tool to spread lots of fire quickly

its not really used for the shove so much

[white valley]

Accatran shotgun with flechette so you can run the most meme dot build in existence

[tulip kettle]

for now just try to not think too much about all that stuff

[jovial rover]

I'ma skitari you only need one weapen to purge heresy plasma

[jovial rover]

Buuut I'm excited and Wanna start thinking! Lol

[tulip kettle]

yeah thats cool and all

but honestly just try to learn the core mechanics of the game

like "how not to get hit in melee combat"

and later the buildcrafting and stuff will come

[quartz barn]

People in here generally think too much tbh

[tulip kettle]

also if you want plasma, you need to play veteran

[jovial rover]

I've played dishonored Ik how to not get hit in malee combat!

[tulip kettle]

erm

its very different

but im glad youre excited.

[quartz barn]

Psyker with warp blink

[jovial rover]

I mean not really the ideas the same dodge block chain attacks

Swing

[white valley]

Well yes this is the psyker channel, not the zealot one

[cosmic cobalt]

problem with shotgun is the reload time and there just option that do the same thing but better

they're good

[quartz barn]

Zealot chat also thinks, but different

[tulip kettle]

the game is very different than vermintide

and its a direct successor to that

[white valley]

They're pretty good after the recent buffs, slug shotgun especially is a good pocket sniper

[tulip kettle]

its dramatically different from other melee combat games. But again, for now just play what you like and learn the game

im recommending you use the assail blitz and use that until you have your entire talent tree unlocked

and any gun and melee weapon will work

[jovial rover]

I'm just happy to serve the emperor and kill heretics

[zealous wing]

damn, PA nerf?

anyway, zealot

i got my penance done tho at least

[cosmic cobalt]

literally everyone eat shit

[zealous wing]

now i can freely move to psyker

[cosmic cobalt]

but zealot got hit the worst

because

[zealous wing]

im gonna need to read the patchnotes arent i

[cosmic cobalt]

assuming you don't have tiktok brain its a quick read

[white valley]

zealot just got nerfs to pious cut-throat, which is odd

[zealous wing]

sorry, was born with it

[white valley]

and riposte?

who tf is using these

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah its their best cdr outside crit one

[tulip kettle]

where do they be? i dont see em on steam

[visual hornet]

news bulletin if you're asking about patchnotes

[tulip kettle]

welcome crom 🙂

[visual hornet]

@zealous wing heya xd

heo dom

[zealous wing]

welcome welcome

[tulip kettle]

as in its gonna make me use the launcher to read patch notes

pfffffft

[zealous wing]

im just scanning patchnotes and ill dive back in

nothing vitally drastic yet that hasnt been mentioned

[visual hornet]

so no more 100% uptime on gaze?

[zealous wing]

no, but, possibly still possible , dunno

we'll find out in like, an hour

probably xD

[visual hornet]

xd

[zealous wing]

vital

suiipsyker is real again

[jovial rover]

My favourite part about pysker class is when I'm psykicering!

[zealous wing]

@tulip kettle #darktide-driptide message

[granite kelp]

funs over we cant have perma giga brainburst up anymore

[zealous wing]

i think im definitely grabbing the red and black one, but, not sure

[jovial rover]

Idk I still find it fun

[zealous wing]

i prefer lower face masks over eye coverings

maybe for my spare psyker(s)

its tempting

[tulip kettle]

its cool

[granite kelp]

rip

[tulip kettle]

smykers in even more shambles

[zealous wing]

good thing beans made the video before this

staff bonk only auric run

[granite kelp]

the funny hold smite for a minute straight build is gg

[zealous wing]

i fucking HOPE so

[granite kelp]

cooldown is nerfed, the damage is nerfed

[stable bone]

That won't stop people who can't read

[zealous wing]

then they explode

and we laugh

and walk away

[granite kelp]

they saw the smykers shat-pants-shuffle through without stopping and immediately nuked that shit

[rancid jasper]

update :D

[zealous wing]

i dunno, at least one dev is a malice smyker, soooo

who knows

[rancid jasper]

psyker nerfs D:

[zealous wing]

smyker nerfs

[dusk wren]

this is a terrible day for chad smite users

[granite kelp]

smyker nerfs, we take those

[rancid jasper]

https://tenor.com/bpo63.gif

[granite kelp]

however, a slight nerf to the funny air chokers rapid slamming brainbursts sadly

[dusk wren]

i mean it's a nerf for everyone

[tulip kettle]

oh nooo, shriek gonna be on 10 second cd instead of 8

[wind spruce]

Oh no, infinite smyker has to take peril reduction talents and seer's presence but is still totally possible 😭

[tulip kettle]

horror

[zealous wing]

what is concentration speed increase

[summer prairie]

closer to 11 I guess

[zealous wing]

200%?

[granite kelp]

taking -40% toughness generation on smyker is such a trap, cant wait to watch them generate 0 toughness and die to a singular shooter

[wind spruce]

Pretty sure they all died to singular shooters anyway kekw

[tulip kettle]

behold

the smitiest smyker build

[zealous wing]

sad

they did not fix

[rancid jasper]

no ep?

can you even call that a smyker?

[zealous wing]

the goal was, not kill my targets

too many random gunfire from the weird bot things

[tulip kettle]

EP makes it do dmg

and sacrificies peril reduction and CDR

this way its much more smiting and much less killing

i say much less

but, well, you know...

now literally nothing dies to it instead of only a little bit

[granite kelp]

thats not the right attitude

[long saddle]

man, my charged strike build already in the trash

[granite kelp]

we kill them through boredom

[long saddle]

guess I have to go DD now

[zealous wing]

get bonked

[long saddle]

they fixed CW overload bug at least

maybe time to go boom again

[young cliff]

How much is the CDR nerf? Chaining gaze will not be possible anymore?

[deft stump]

FS wants me to stop playing melee vet.

[zealous wing]

100% for 3s > 60% for 5s

[long saddle]

Cooldown Regeneration 100% for 3s → 60% for 5s

[granite kelp]

taking 0 peril reduction so i can walk upto the nearest dreg shotgunner with malicious intent

[young cliff]

That seems significant, wonder how much is in practice and seconds

[long saddle]

200x3+100x2 vs 160x5

over 5s it's the same

[solemn veldt]

Why the cooldown talents being nerfed again

🥲

[long saddle]

but when chained it's worse

[solemn veldt]

That's the issue here really

[young cliff]

Because perpetual vent and gaze I assume

[stoic axle]

Glad to see psykinetics nerfed

[long saddle]

yeah that's the main reason it was touched on

[solemn veldt]

Why glad

[stoic axle]

Made psyker really easy

[zealous wing]

well, in psyck, PA nerf doesnt feel bad

[solemn veldt]

Glass cannon should be powerful in offensive aspects isn't it

[young cliff]

Psyker was strongest class without being to glass in their cannon

[long saddle]

my builds that require heavy ability spam have warp siphon already so

[zealous wing]

@visual hornet can you see our chat msgs ingame

[young cliff]

It needed a type of nerf

[visual hornet]

nope

[stoic axle]

Psykers abilities make him not so fragile

So having them permanently isn't glas cannon anymore

[long saddle]

that hasn't really changed tho

[zealous wing]

relaunch?

[visual hornet]

yea tried changing operative gonna restart now

[sterile vale]

Charged Strike relegated to the poop pile once more

[solemn veldt]

still need to manuver through enemies isn't it

[long saddle]

warp siphon got better with inner tranquility buff at least

[south oyster]

Ah good they fixed Crystalline Will

[solemn veldt]

You cannot simply stand there and take all the hit like ogryn with his great shield

[stoic axle]

How can you get hit with infinite bubbles, scriers and shriek

Nor overload

[solemn veldt]

How could it be infinite

It's already not that infinite, at least for bubbles, and bubbles are not invincible at all

[stoic axle]

Don't place bubble in the open and its inf

[granite kelp]

everyone needs to do that, no mf surviving a mauler slam

[long saddle]

all bubbles die

[zealous wing]

PA nerf feels fine, honestly, yall

[solemn veldt]

Well ogryn can take at least one I remember?

[stoic axle]

You could get 3 bubbles with the old psykinetics

[sterile vale]

Place bubble on top of enemies and it'll delete their shots

[stoic axle]

'Old' as in pre nerf

[solemn veldt]

The old was true

[long saddle]

except you can build psyker to do exactly that lol

[solemn veldt]

I just wonder why nerfing again

[summer prairie]

the previous nerf didn't affect psyker at all on average

and it was still better than other similar talents other classes have

[long saddle]

vet and zealot got it worse last patch

and psyker got the nerf now

[solemn veldt]

That could be because other classes' nerfs were a little bit too much

🥲

Imo at least, especially for zealot

[stoic axle]

Not even sure why they buffed the active time for psykinetics, its almost perma active anyways

[long saddle]

because they wanted there to be less chaining

over 5s they have the same cooldown

but not if you chained several on pre-patch

[stoic axle]

Yeah but when aren't you killing an elite or special in 5 seconds

Maybe downtime between hordes thats about it

3 seconds I mean*

[long saddle]

it all depends

[dusk wren]

which is why it was nerfed

[long saddle]

the problem was when there was waves of stuff and you had too strong of a perm uptime

[dusk wren]

like, it's not a buff to the active time

it's a nerf to chaining elites

[long saddle]

ye

[granite kelp]

mfw my strength scales with the amount of enemies present (cant have that)

[long saddle]

the only one strength scaling really is shriek

[stoic axle]

How does it nerf chaining if its always active either way

[dusk wren]

because before it wasn't as active

[long saddle]

because the percentage is less

[dusk wren]

while still giving the same amoutn of saved cooldown

[stoic axle]

It was always active before lol

[long saddle]

if you have 100% uptime you have 160% cooldown

instead of 200%

[summer prairie]

it had 60-65% uptime during combat previously, if the mod is accurate

might be higher now

[dusk wren]

definitely higher for a total of less saved cooldown

[long saddle]

yeah it's always gonna be less

but the highs aren't as big, and that was the point of the nerf

[weary crane]

Not sure if psykineric aura has been buffed or nerfed for gaze + warpunbound

[dusk wren]

i can't see how this is a buff for any build

[stoic axle]

It's a buff for uprising maybe

[solemn veldt]

Buffed?

[dusk wren]

even in the best possible case, it's still less cooldown than before

[weary crane]

I don't think it regen during gaze, so longer time might make it last after gaze ends

[solemn veldt]

Someone here kinda holding some grudge over psykers it seems

😂

[stoic axle]

🤔

[solemn veldt]

Just kidding

[stoic axle]

I main psyker i just want him to have actual skill expression, which clearly didn't exist with pre nerf scriers, not sure how different the scrier chaining is now gotta test it

[solemn veldt]

Let's go test it then, I HOPE it would perform better since I love psykers too

🥲

[young cliff]

It will perform good, if old Psyker managed with worse skills uptime you will strive with this nerfed one

[weary crane]

Sometimes my gaze regens too quick, when there are plenty of elites and specialists, but if there's just a boss or something, it doesn't regen quick enough

So maybe longer time is better

[stoic axle]

psyker will still be very good, its just not super easy gaze chaining, atleast i hope checking now

[young cliff]

What sparkhead needs is a heating mechanic for smite, so if you smite for too long you take health damage

[tulip kettle]

we have that

its called peril

[young cliff]

Not in infinite gaze world

[stoic axle]

which is why psykinetics was nerfed

one of the reasons atleast

[young cliff]

And I'm still sure we need it

The anti overload feature of gaze will make so we need something else to restraint smite

[stoic axle]

which is the nerf

[young cliff]

Not really, still channeling for too long

[stoic axle]

ok is this even a nerf

i can still chain with 1 second left

well it is but come on...

[young cliff]

Yes, and as I said: people will strive still

[stoic axle]

just delete psykinetics aura and gut psyker thoughts

[summer prairie]

all cdr talents are too good and everyone has them so you would have to balance your ability cooldowns around everyone having them

[young cliff]

There are people who wants to remove all CDR from the game so don't say that lightly

[stoic axle]

yeah chaining warp unbound is still stupid easy

[summer prairie]

chaining warp unbound only gives you infinite peril though

[stoic axle]

which is really good?

[summer prairie]

yes

[young cliff]

Ergo: smite needs a heating mechanic like relic blades, but if you keep channeling you cook your Psyker HP

[stoic axle]

staff scrier's would still be super easy to use

[young cliff]

Staff scrier in most cases still have to fight the hordes

[stoic axle]

make warp unbound like 5 seconds screw that modifier >:(

[summer prairie]

you are sacrificing shriek to get it, has to be good

[deft stump]

To be fair, you don't need CDR if the feel for ult timers were reworked. Problem is, once you add it, GL with the backlash removing it.

[summer prairie]

gutting WU just makes staff builds not take it

[young cliff]

Yeah, doodoo heads will complain like the lil sibblers they are, imagine crying because DS nerf

[deft stump]

Is like DOTA2, ult timers factor into how match changing an ability is... CDR means any hero reliant on it just is forced to get it.

It becomes a slot tax in a way.

[kind jay]

oh no they fixed ep affecting charged strike rip shock maul the bestest weapon of all time

[royal totem]

DS got nerfed?

[deft stump]

It was. Less poke damage.

Only no change cos everyone got buffed.

[pale prairie]

[deft stump]

If you took all the damage nodes.

[royal totem]

Luls

[marble crater]

Patch is not on Xbox yet, for now I am still OP

[royal totem]

Wait how is it effectively no nerf?

[solemn veldt]

Ds' s new special counter is kinda amazing imo

[pale prairie]

All the classes that use it got some kind of damage buff related to talent trees

[stoic axle]

psyker and vet with ds deal way more damage than the pre 'nerf' version

[deft stump]

Cos you generally do the same or more on the standard builds.

Cos many damage nodes were buffed.

Plus, if you can parry. Lul at overheads.

[royal totem]

Ah then lul

[deft stump]

I did an accidental mortis 1 shot DH via parry lul.

[quartz barn]

"Accidental"

[royal totem]

so like

[quartz barn]

Casually runs full dmg without geting hit

[deft stump]

Turns out 350% every 15 secs+200% weakspot damage+shroudfield+250% crit damage+70% melee crit damage is funni.

[royal totem]

i think they're in a situation where they can't actually nerf DS without severely impacting the game

[stoic axle]

stealth delete ds and let havoc ensue

[deft stump]

Also, all the funni zealot damage nodes and no stam.

[primal aurora]

Any advice on Trauma staff? I feel like I kill enemies way too slow with it and spread them out too much.

[marble crater]

Aim center at big enemy, boom

Don't be low level

[deft stump]

Hilariously enough, more or less. I think I ate more barrel damage.

[marsh badger]

center blast full charge does noticeably more damage than 75-90% charge for crushers/maulers

[long saddle]

we going mohawk next shop drop

[marsh badger]

but partial charge is fine for poxwalkers if you are running nexus/blazing spirit

[marble crater]

No

[primal aurora]

So I should always charge blasts to max?

[royal totem]

no

you shouldnt

[marsh badger]

no

[kind jay]

damn we got force mohawk before gta6

[royal totem]

a full charge will overkill poxwalkers anyways and sometimes for defensive reasons you don't have time for full charging etc etc

[marsh badger]

the stagger is more important typically but if you have time to push the charge to full, it does more damage

[patent mango]

holy hell a hotfix with substance

[royal totem]

SO

[long saddle]

full trauma to always knock shit down for the first hit at least

[royal totem]

because fatshark can't not break the game

i just tried to join a havoc and got the nice message

"The strike team you are trying to join is running another version of the game. please update and restart"

[young cliff]

Breaking the game with each patch is a traditional ObeseFish experience

[marble crater]

Happens when not everyone gets the hotfix at the same time

[royal totem]

yes i get that but still

irritating af

[marble crater]

Karien's fault

[royal totem]

how's it Karien's fault? ._.

[marble crater]

Just is

[zealous wing]

had a damnation mission earlier with dom that dom crashed in, then i had to make sure the fledgelings didnt die

then, update

[deft stump]

If FS sends me even 5% of their profits, sure. Otherwise, how is this my fault?

I don't even get to beta test shit.

[marble crater]

Your ping and lag is so big that some people get the hotfix later

[zealous wing]

@tulip kettle

[plucky flax]

It just is

[deft stump]

Hey FS, can you send me at least 10% of your CEO or whatever's earnings for having to take your company's flak?

[young cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[jovial juniper]

PLEASE looking ahh

[rich spindle]

Please looking ahh

[leaden wind]

Please looking ahh

[deft stump]

[runic juniper]

does psykinetics aura still apply cdr to other teammates, or only you now?

[deft stump]

Selfish now.

[rancid jasper]

selfish but activates if your teammates kill an elite or specialist. just only you get the cdr

[runic juniper]

yeah I assumed they binned it like demo specialist

[young cliff]

*pet the Karien

[marsh badger]

pre-patch it was good enough for non-WS builds to have solid bubble uptime

for bubble knight and EP-BB builds

[quartz barn]

In war?

[deft stump]

I mean, Shout is now for self use as well.

Clearly FS is moving towards self stuff.

[zealous wing]

so, verdict on PA nerf, after a single damnation mission with an EK RMB build... its fine, long as you get a few elites, youre fine, just, quell tap a little

[quartz barn]

Tbh it already was

[deft stump]

Also, when covering fire affects self?

[young cliff]

It not being an aura was already quite troublesome from a balance perspective

[jovial juniper]

8 seconds still too good

[primal aurora]

I love how new Gaze works (I haven't played for a while). It is pretty selfish, but it is fun to ride high peril and spam voidblast staff nonstop.

[deft stump]

Covering fire though. Pretty sure if it affects self, wouldn't hurt. You are still shooting point blank for it.

[obtuse walrus]

I'm helping the team if everything is dead

[quartz barn]

Unlucky for some

[primal aurora]

Scoreboard mod is working?

[young cliff]

Didn't tested it but doesn't trigger for you? That's annoying

[young cliff]

The best debuff to apply is "death"

[deft stump]

It's allies only.

[young cliff]

So only for sniper gameplay? But me DB is providing cover fire!

[deft stump]

Why the node is still worthless.

Also same for born leader for some.

You only want it to increase chance for coherency procs.

See Demo team from the zealot or so.

[young cliff]

Born leader is ok, some ppl are just crazy to hate toughness battery-man

[deft stump]

If they don't get hit, they don't need it.

[radiant frigate]

i cast "health to zero"

[young cliff]

Hey, it's the same incantation Ogryn uses to cast "dez fists"

[young cliff]

But what if they get shoot?

[radiant frigate]

true incantation of absolute death #psyker-class message

"this will hurt"

[weary crane]

Trying to play on fatshark servers early in the day is horrendous

It's like they only turn them on in peak hours

[deft stump]

I dunno. Zealots can spam slides and dodge, I guess.

[quaint lark]

Can you spot whats wrong is this pic?

[deft stump]

You got a free ammo bot.

That's lucky.

[quaint lark]

.....None of us talked during the entire mission until the end and were all like why tf is there 5 things here

hell the bot died and we resed it and it was still here

[deft stump]

Yeah. It's a bug. Game fails to remove a bot when a player joins or rejoins.

[crimson surge]

they should make it a new mission type to escort a hvp, that'd be cool

and make it only hunting grounds

[vestal flower]

I feel like soulblaze is fucking useless... out of 500k damage in a game, 2k of it was soulblaze 😂

[jovial juniper]

Observation bias of 1 game

🚬

[vestal flower]

well this was just the most recent... every game I have played I feel like I have gotten even more burning damage than soulblaze

maybe the main point is that it activates some other talent?

like its not meant for damage

[marble crater]

You are using soulblaze wrong then

[jovial juniper]

Well
Fire is the superior dot

But psyker can make blaze even better with buffs

[marble crater]

How did you apply the soulblaze? Almost sounds like melee

[vestal flower]

mostly yeah

I feel like enemies just die too quick to really have time to take that DoT damage

maybe it only gets any real value at like the max max difficulty missions?

[marble crater]

Well you see your issue is, that you are trying to make soulblaze work with melee, as you can see for yourself, it doesn't work. Because you need to crit to apply it and either the enemy dies to the crit or dies to the next hit afterwards

Soulblaze is great
Melee soulblaze is a meme

Melee soulblaze never gets any value because of how it is applied and works

[vestal flower]

oh... I see

currently the build I am trying out plays with voidstrike and shards and blaze greatsword, basically I generate peril with shards and staff, then go to melee with high peril, then repeat

[tulip kettle]

right but

dont use blazing spirit on the melee

[vestal flower]

if I want proper value out of soulblaze, do I need to just fully go gun psyker/staff psyker?

[marble crater]

That's fine, just skip the melee soulblaze part

[tulip kettle]

no, you need to use soulblaze on your talents

[marble crater]

Perilous Combustion
Wildfire
Shriek

[vestal flower]

hmm I see, frees up some talent points :D

[plucky flax]

Dom do you want to rank up?

[vestal flower]

yeah I did use those

[marble crater]

Then you are not spamming Shriek enough I think

[young cliff]

Karien doing bot community services for making builds against humanity

[vestal flower]

what should I take instead of blazing spirit then? already got Shred

[vestal flower]

ohh wait yeah I dont use that, I use scrier

[deft stump]

Thursday? Yes?

[vestal flower]

oooooh that is the magic to soulblaze builds is it? Shrieking with the talent point for it?

[marble crater]

It's Monday

[plucky flax]

Maybe.

[marble crater]

Build Bonanza in the pins can guide you

[deft stump]

Maybe?

[plucky flax]

Wut? I don't know what time you play.

I can only play when I am free.

[vestal flower]

Yeah I think I might just slot in to something else than soulblaze tbh I like scrier

[deft stump]

Is more, Syllo only free after wed for your time.

[summer prairie]

you can do it whenever you feel like it, I'm going to get my 40 anyway

[plucky flax]

Same.

I'm just chilling mane.

[deft stump]

I'm asking for best chance to win, lul.

[marble crater]

You are the carry, you tell us

[deft stump]

Thus, best time is when both are free.

[plucky flax]

For you I am always free.

Otherwise I get flamed.

I have ep smiter this is free win?

[tulip kettle]

YES

i do

[zealous wing]

o.o

[deft stump]

If I join, you will somehow rank down.

[zealous wing]

i am being abandoned?

[plucky flax]

Free now?

[zealous wing]

(it would be fine)

[plucky flax]

I have 20s to leave.

The lobby

[tulip kettle]

yes can play now

or play yours and i join after

your choice

[quartz barn]

Ditching pubs

[zealous wing]

@visual hornet dunno what we're doing quite yet

[visual hornet]

gotcha

[vestal flower]

What are the best blessing combos for the blaze greatsword?

[zealous wing]

unstable power

[plucky flax]

Damn I really ditched them with like 10s left. I dunno I saw this based sword and was like yeah see you later.

[vestal flower]

fits my build, but isn't only 5% str quite low?

[zealous wing]

it stacks

4x

[tulip kettle]

extremely based

[vestal flower]

oh wtf that is super good then... doesn't say it at all in the blessing tho...

but yeah fits my build perfectly as well

[marble crater]

How about fatshark includes unstable power description fix in a hotfix, hmm

[autumn portal]

never had that issue

[vestal flower]

how does it stack? like it says that it scales with peril up to 5% but what activates it then/makes it stack?

[visual hornet]

5% each 20% of peril

maxed out at 80% peril

[candid temple]

0/2 Grimories, how are you going to get a better dice roll for loot?

[vestal flower]

ahhh I see, thank you!

[visual hornet]

cheers mate xd

[quaint lark]

oh i didnt even notice that lol tbh i never really look for the books im there to purge

[candid temple]

(nobody gets books in dt, it's a vt2 reference)

unless they're maybe doing melk quest

[dusk wren]

everyone rerolls those

[modest perch]

i used to destroy grims whenever i found them cus dorn told me to

[ripe obsidian]

Psykinetic’s Aura
Psykinetic’s Aura came out of the previous patch too strong, resulting in very low Ability Cooldowns.

Cooldown Regeneration 100% for 3s → 60% for 5s

Sad.

[marble crater]

Psyker is dead

[modest perch]

wtf why are they like this

i bet they didnt fix the silent bursters

or the various areas snipers can shoot through walls

[young cliff]

It was a crusher I swear, the fact that it was targeting me has nothing to do

[ripe obsidian]

8 second shriek CD now. Rude. 1.5ish seconds longer

[young cliff]

Imagine, Psyker unviable class

[modest perch]

its a matter of misplaced priorities

[ripe obsidian]

Fixed an issue where Psyker’s ‘Charged Strike’ talent electrocution damage would scale with the ‘Empowered Psionics’ Keystone damage boost.

Fixed an issue where ‘Crystalline Will’ would still deal corruption even when canceling the Perils of the Warp explosion (e.g. by quelling Peril through ‘Venting Shriek’).

[marble crater]

Is the other CW bug fixed though

[young cliff]

Honest question, what's Charged strikes game style supposed to enable? Can't see a reason for it to exist

[modest perch]

shouldnt have been done at all

[royal totem]

hexis is playing with people? 😮

[modest perch]

no

[young cliff]

Believe me, if old psyker could crush in damage this minor Nerf is but a slap in the butt

[summer prairie]

it doesn't change skill ceiling at all

[prime elk]

lol crying over a nerf that's barely anything to the overall state of psyker

sounds like psykers alright

[modest perch]

its the principle of the thing

[young cliff]

Specially since it's so strong nowadays

[cosmic sigil]

I did not see any difference before and after the cdr nerf

[young cliff]

CDR should not be as strong as that perk was

And arguably still is

[cosmic sigil]

I still spam scryer

[modest perch]

its a slippery slope

[ripe obsidian]

...CDR on killing specials and elites has nothing to do with skill ceiling. Just luck of enemy spawns.

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[modest perch]

ive been around long enough to remember ogryns death by 1000 cuts

[royal totem]

on an unrelated note, can i please borrow the world's smallest violin?

[rich spindle]

It takes skill to point the infinite cleave dot weapon toward enemy direction

[royal totem]

yeah if you point it in the wrong direction, it does no damage

[rich spindle]

This

[long saddle]

psykhanium is supposed to give you DD targets right?

[young cliff]

*Points at wrong direction, peril combustion and wildfire still net me a kill
Don't think I understood instructions

[marble crater]

Don't think so

[young cliff]

It doesn't

No marked blue guys for training

[cosmic sigil]

you need the psykhanium mod

iirc

[modest perch]

creature spawner

[long saddle]

ok, I just have the creature spawner atm

[cosmic sigil]

yes

[modest perch]

u gotta turn the ai on

[cosmic sigil]

yes

[long saddle]

this?

[modest perch]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

no u gotta turn off invis

[long saddle]

ok ye it worked now, I was spawning too common units first

ok charged strike with DD doesn't feel as good

[granite kelp]

brainburst randomly blowing the brains of a special every 12 seconds is more fun anyways

[royal totem]

this team ain't it 🙁

3 of the people stayed behind to fight infini spawn

[young cliff]

Infinite as event spawns or is actually the ambush spawns? They sometimes feel infinite but they aren't

[royal totem]

event spawn

[young cliff]

Shame

[royal totem]

our psyker also doesn't burn hordes

[granite kelp]

elaborate

[young cliff]

But he does warp slash them

RIGHT?!!

[royal totem]

he's using knife

so what's a warp slash

[granite kelp]

no purg staff or no go-go gadget random burst of fire out of dreg shotgunner?

[weary crane]

Why do people reject request for the exact class they need, who is also clearance 40 and true survivor, like wtf

[royal totem]

he's using a purge staff

he just

doesn't

burn

hordes

[granite kelp]

how

why

[young cliff]

Is he using the staff at all?

[granite kelp]

is this mf exclusively using purg for like beaming down a rager or something

[weary crane]

His goals are beyond our understanding

[royal totem]

YES

[royal totem]

we lost

unsurprisingly

[granite kelp]

i can read into the minds of these people

tell him it pierces infinitely

he 100% thinks the fire hits the first frontline poxwalker and ends there

i had like, 4-5 of these people, had to convince them the fire does infact go through

[young cliff]

But it has INFINITE AMMO, why no use it?!

[royal totem]

i shouldn't have to convince people how it works in havoc 😭

actually though ummm they used knife a lot 🙁

[young cliff]

And yet this is the reality we live

[ripe obsidian]

Who cares about ammo? I only care about the BURN

[granite kelp]

imagine a purg staff that doesnt pierce and stops like it hit a wall when it hits a poxwalker, would you use it against a horde

[young cliff]

Because these fools don't use it enough, ergo NO BURN!!!!!

[ripe obsidian]

No. It would be very bad.

Same reason I dislike ES on Inferno. Takes too long to scale up on every individual enemy.

[young cliff]

Purgatus should have a pierce limit, like it hitting a ogryn enemy would linger just a little and then disappear, but other enemies they just pierce

[royal totem]

wait how so? 😮

oh wait

nvm

[royal totem]

it would still become infinitly worse

[granite kelp]

this would mean the ogryn at the receiving end is eating the full force of the fire, imagine standing infront, at the tip end of a oversized blowtorch

[young cliff]

It's currently the strongest weapon in game, it will shrug it off, and it lingering means that a full crushers conga will take all dot so isn't that bad in that regard

[granite kelp]

although it would be a interesting rework, pierces small stuff, big stuff needs to be basically cut through

[celest valve]

have they fired literally any weapon in the game

honest question

[royal totem]

i need Six to carry me again 🙁

[granite kelp]

more likely they only played psyker with one or two weapons with their friends who got them to havoc 40, decided to try different weapons and end up not even checking what purgatus actually does

[royal totem]

they didn't have clearance 40 btw.

just clearance 22 or so

[celest valve]

like 99% of weapons at least penetrate one poxwalker lol

[royal totem]

not to rain on your parade

[young cliff]

Still they should understand what their weapon does

[royal totem]

that's.....not the arguement here. we all think they should but they just.......dont

[young cliff]

Had H22 players with more brains than that

[granite kelp]

dude if you are at havoc at all you should have a basic sense of what you are wielding actually shoots

[royal totem]

don't flame me i'm still on havoc 1

[celest valve]

also honestly I think flamer would need a code rework to not pierce anymore

[young cliff]

And yet, you understand this things

[granite kelp]

this guy obviously got carried with their friends and wanted to play by themselves for a change so they hopped back on the havoc terminal

[royal totem]

i understand but when i play i just die over and over again. :3

[young cliff]

Have you tried not dying?
*Gives you dodge on crit so your fire makes you bulletproof

[celest valve]

like I think ramp up needs you simply to keep it aimed in a cone on someone for the damage ramp up on hit damage

[royal totem]

i tried that. and then i exploded from perils of the warp 🙁

[granite kelp]

purgatus on horde is free infinite crit procs

[merry sinew]

we can run some games together if you need help.. seems like you could use some tips/tricks

[granite kelp]

dude

[royal totem]

sorry i should stop trolling

[celest valve]

well assuming you're using the charge instead of the puff

[royal totem]

i play arb cuz all my friends are psykers so i can't blow up

[young cliff]

Have you tried laughing?
*Give you vent with left keystone for infinite skill uses

[royal totem]

so i was playing inferno bubble once after having playing inferno shriek for a long time. and i blew up cuz i tried to hit F to save myself but it was bubble but not shriek

[granite kelp]

atleast you died in cover

[graceful arch]

How are you all feeling about the psykinetic aura change?

[young cliff]

That's more than what others do tbh

[royal totem]

indifferent to it

[granite kelp]

is that the cdr perk

[royal totem]

yes

[granite kelp]

i dont memorize trait names

[royal totem]

i don't try to memorize things.

[young cliff]

Good Nerf, could've gone harder but we shall see

[patent mango]

not sure if it changes much of anything so far

[granite kelp]

2 seconds longer

we are in extreme shambles

[patent mango]

fatshark has Ruined psyker

[royal totem]

has a meltdown

[granite kelp]

actually maxed out my purg staff to get a tiny bit extra warp resistance to line up shriek cooldown

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/wasp-room-caramelldansen-wasps-gif-369916296101968575

[young cliff]

Psyker so ruined it exploded

[patent mango]

true true

[royal totem]

psyker so ruined need to play other classes

[pallid stump]

alright i was wrong, i understand now the use of smite

to be fodder so i never have to use a blitz of my gunker build

[long saddle]

even then assail is better in a pinch

[pallid stump]

this is a highly exagerated joke

[granite kelp]

smite is a free horde freeze, not horde clear now

[young cliff]

By using it and releasing so you can actually stagger AND kill stif with your weapons

RIGHT?!!

[patent mango]

wait the nerf wasnt that small it went to 60%

did fatshark finally remember they can nerf things am i seeing this right

[pallid stump]

oh no no, as people before told me here, smite is not to freeze hordes

[patent mango]

is nature healing yet

[pallid stump]

its not to be used at all appearantly

[royal totem]

i think psyker need buff. make obscurus 1 tap rot armor crushers 🙁

[granite kelp]

i ran assail for so long cause i didnt like stopping to use brain burst and didnt feel degenarate enough to use smite

[young cliff]

Na, is either a fodded burner or a stagger shove in big aoe

[bright summit]

Its a 6.5->8.1 increase CD on shriek and I think Scriers wu you can still get back to ability before wu ends if you just micro Scriers a little

[patent mango]

smite is to stun annoying bulwarks and revive people in the middle of hordes to me

otherwise its just kinda there

[granite kelp]

smite is for when my nose itches in the middle of the fight so i gotta hit that smyker stance as i take my time

[bright summit]

Imo the change just worsens builds without a ton of soulblaze application but doesn't actually affect the overperformers like trauma and purge

[pallid stump]

i thought smite was used for is crowd controll in dire situations

apperantly "killing the enemy is just better"

[young cliff]

They still should give smite an overheat mechanic so I'd you hold it for to long you burn your own hp

[patent mango]

scriers didnt even really have access to PA before