like hungry birds
#psyker-class
rain wren
Lol low levels?
zealous wing
he's doing pretty good
jump from uprising to malice was taken happily when he could, so hopefully the heresy jump he's similarly brave
rain wren
Well if he doesn't down much in the malice runs should be ok
zealous wing
he's played the VT games so he should be fine
rain wren
Oh vermontide he definitely should be fine
How I got through. I was using first person shooter knowledge at first and was getting fucked up but when I was like hmm maybe it's more melee heavy. I finally got it down
zealous wing
ye pretty much
i told him to grab the rock when he could on ogryn, and he's been having a blast
royal totem
the rock is fun
zealous wing
it literally never gets old
1st time, its fucking hilarious. millionth time, still fucking hilarious
royal totem
forgot whether it 1 shots ragers
zealous wing
idk if it does one shot trappers
royal totem
it does
zealous wing
it doesnt have instakill override in the code iirc
royal totem
at least up to auric. after i can't 100% say
zealous wing
for muties, they specifically have instakill, even if it just touches them if it bounces off another enemy
headshot, bodyshot, armshot, doesnt matter
rain wren
Lol poor mutant. He only wants to hug you
zealous wing
no it wants to slam me into the ground
rain wren
Sometimes it does work in my favor because he does throw me out of the horde
zealous wing
in my case, its into the moshpit
ripe obsidian
A story in 2 parts
rain wren
What story?
rain wren
Lol oh
rain wren
Sometimes it doesn't like multiple apps up
I find it easier to send things through phone
tulip kettle
the suspense
royal totem
odd 😮
strong gulch
zealous wing
royal totem
PURGE THE UNCLEAN!
tulip kettle
zealous wing
@royal totem i found this too while going through old clips, cleaning up like 28GB of video
royal totem
should've tried kiting down the other path and used dog to keep killing
royal totem
yeah. i also just ran out of space to dodge and manuver
shouldn't have backed into there
zealous wing
eh, its havoc 40
royal totem
think i went in there trying to dodge a charging mutie though
i funnily enough only lived while you three died cuz i was shooting a special slightly behind
zealous wing
hes in a mission rn
royal totem
damn
zealous wing
RAWHWHHHRRR
royal totem
ah well
royal totem
sorry he seems more similar to a rager than a person at the moment though :3
tulip kettle
i mean just ask the question here nemui and if i cant help then six will when he's around im sure
zealous wing
they've nerfed her moaning already
rancid jasper
idk why i didnt think of this earlier but you can also use the swap cancel tech to speed up your normal followup attack
modest merlin
Can someone help me understand the special attack on the blaze force greatsword? I charge it up and then press the special attack button and it discharges the two stacks but i dont see what it even does
royal totem
i'm trying to find out exactly how aggro on the ranged twin works.
zealous wing
Can someone help me understand the special attack on the blaze force greatsword?...
its a horde delete
royal totem
also, twins spawned and i ......got ditched by a team earlier to have to try to solo them.
tulip kettle
idk why i didnt think of this earlier but you can also use the swap cancel tech ...
yup best horde clearing is to swap cancel between attacks
royal totem
i died
rancid jasper
yup best horde clearing is to swap cancel between attacks
makes a huge difference particularly with bgs ability
if you dont it leaves you stuck for a long time
modest merlin
its a horde delete
It doesnt seem to do anything in the training
tulip kettle
aggro in this game is really weird, you notice certain patterns when you play but its hard to quantify
rancid jasper
yup best horde clearing is to swap cancel between attacks
how do you set up your keybinds for swap cancel? you personally
tulip kettle
It doesnt seem to do anything in the training
it does increasing damage and stagger depending on the charge level ( 0, 1 or 2)
tulip kettle
how do you set up your keybinds for swap cancel? you personally
use skitarius mod
rancid jasper
i see
modest merlin
Ooh.
tulip kettle
it lets you set customised macros for every weapon
royal totem
aggro in this game is really weird, you notice certain patterns when you play bu...
so the ranged twin kinda just attacks who it wants? >.>
tulip kettle
essentially yes
but he will do nothing at all quite happily if everyone is holding aggro elsewhere
modest merlin
Thats what i was missing thanks
rancid jasper
Thats what i was missing thanks
good luck, it's the most fun weapon ability in the game imo
love it
zealous wing
its also very useful
rancid jasper
its also very useful
and versatile
zealous wing
teammate didnt drop down, is a floor above and gets dogged? slash, even uncharged
goes through walls and floors
rancid jasper
teammate didnt drop down, is a floor above and gets dogged? slash, even uncharge...
being able to say "everything in that general direction is now staggered for 2 seconds regardless of cover" is really nice
rancid jasper
uncharged slash is just a large stagger
can deal decent damage if buffed up and/or at point blank
you can get it to ohk flak
zealous wing
its considered a ranged attack, yup
tulip kettle
rancid jasper
its considered a ranged attack, yup
ranged attack that doesn't use up true aim, which is nice for some builds if you're saving your true aim for something but need to stagger something at range
zealous wing
https://tenor.com/view/holiday-happy-gif-25182041
*from the dog that had him pinned
cold ivy
it feels like aggro updates continuously and depends on both damage and proximity, because very generally speaking from experience, if you stay closest to an enemy and/or deal damage to it while nobody else is dealing damage to it, after some amount of time it'll go on you
tulip kettle
yes
i dont want to get too into it because i have a reputation for being a crazy person
but certain things with aggro in this game are very noticeable over time
cold ivy
iirc in vermintide 2, forcing stagger on a boss (usually via ult or bomb) would always make it aggro you (but you could lose aggro afterwards as per normal), but i'm not sure it's 100% in darktide
rancid jasper
is warp resist dump stat on voidstrike or is it radius?
tulip kettle
if all alive players are in coherency, generally aggro will juggle in such a way that nothing bad will happen if you play correctly.
the game has a lot of stuff underneath that's hard to quantify or explain.
cold ivy
like, specifically for bosses? or in general? cuz bad things happen to me a lot
tulip kettle
syllo posted a clip within the last 24 hours of him kiting crushers
you will notice they overhead in sync with the number of dodges he has
cold ivy
huh
tulip kettle
but again im just a crazy person ignore me 🙂
cold ivy
i gotta see that
tulip kettle
cold ivy
damn
tulip kettle
if you dont do something wrong, you wont die
strong gulch
is warp resist dump stat on voidstrike or is it radius?
VS is blast radius. All other force weapons are WR.
tulip kettle
the hard part is not doing something wrong
zealous wing
the hard part is everything that'd be mixed in with those crushers
cold ivy
i wonder if it'd work on a weapon with worse/fewer dodges
zealous wing
thats an FGS
cold ivy
or whether you need a weapon that's at least this good
zealous wing
one of the worst mobility weapons there is i think
tulip kettle
no thats the point
cold ivy
i mean, with staff out or something it might not be doable
cuz you only have 3 dodges on staff, right?
or will the crushers overhead less frequently
tulip kettle
all the time i will see enemies in an active slot just standing there looking at me
cold ivy
i get my ass beat by poxwalkers from behind all the time though
tulip kettle
yes, press dodge when woosh
rain wren
Can someone help me understand the special attack on the blaze force greatsword?...
Kill things till it is full then blast
tulip kettle
again its really hard to quantify this stuff but just play a lot and look out for it and you will see what i mean
cold ivy
i do get a vague sense of what you mean
tulip kettle
if you are in coherency, and in the place the game determines you should be, if you dont make a mechanical mistake you wont die
rain wren
if you are in coherency, and in the place the game determines you should be, if ...
Pray to the emperor
tulip kettle
and saying something like "where the game thinks you should be" is hard to quantify but easier to point out specifically because the game tracks where your "squad" is, where the furthest forward a member can be, where the furthest back a member can be etc
cold ivy
it feels like a lot of extremely fucked situations are actually pretty survivable if you know what to do and can execute accordingly... but the second half of the statement is definitely doing quite a bit of heavy lifting
tulip kettle
indeed
royal totem
but he will do nothing at all quite happily if everyone is holding aggro elsewhe...
what do you mean if everyone is holding aggro elsewhere?
rain wren
it feels like a lot of extremely fucked situations are actually pretty survivabl...
Best thing to do is kill your way out as fast as possible and stay together and hope you don't get fucked
cold ivy
yeah that's good advice for the game in general
tulip kettle
what do you mean if everyone is holding aggro elsewhere?
they are fighting the things they are currently engaged with
tulip kettle
normal
cold ivy
wait, how can you tell
tulip kettle
just from the numbers
royal totem
lmaooooo
zealous wing
cold ivy
oh there's a line for that
zealous wing
ye but the death count is confirmation
tulip kettle
indeed
tulip kettle
going back a bit, one tip i can give
if your character calls out an enemy
without you pinging anything
only you hear that
and you should focus the enemy they call out.
rain wren
Stopping=death, seperating=death, blinking=death, not praying=death
cold ivy
what the fu-
zealous wing
interesting
cold ivy
but sometimes i hear teammate barks
tulip kettle
yes you will
tulip kettle
indeed
cold ivy
are those different? damn this game has some arcane mechanics under the hood
cold ivy
i always assumed every voiceline was squadwide
tulip kettle
i hear "kill the gunner" about 50 times
cold ivy
my life is a lie
tulip kettle
how many times did you hear my character say it?
zealous wing
ill definitely be more aware of what i hear others call out vs just me
hmmm
i genuinely dont remember imma be honest
tulip kettle
and again, if you ping a thing it doesnt count, that is 100% for everyone
zealous wing
probably didnt? but, you know how today was
tulip kettle
barks are awesome in games, i play a lot of division 2
that game has the same mechanics but for the enemies
tulip kettle
the enemies bark but its not just "random"
no its the opposite of weird
it makes a lot of sense
zealous wing
it doesnt make sense if you have to tell us, if we hear our character say it its only us hearing it
means if i hear my character mention a sniper, im probably the only one who knows theres one around, and im on SF zealot with a flamer
royal totem
i just play darktide with wallhacks
rancid jasper
i just play darktide with wallhacks
With the mods that are allowed on this game I honestly believe you
tulip kettle
anyway everything i said here is the ravings of a crazy person and can safely be ignored
zealous wing
you know i wont
ripe obsidian
The vet took smokes and asked me to go Shriek. We came closer to winning that time. Still not a win.
tulip kettle
but now its in the back of your mind...
cold ivy
i think it's something like, the game is trying to give you more audio information than just the enemy noises (e.g. specialist sound cues) in case you're inexperienced, so if a trapper spawns everyone hears her sound cue but the game also makes one person yell "trapper!" when she gets close
but if everyone heard every yell then there would be too much information coming in so the game only plays it for the closest person (i.e. the one who has the best chance of dealing with her)
tulip kettle
now youre getting it
cold ivy
at least that's why i assume someone would make that kind of decision
royal totem
damn.
zealous wing
yeah but then the whole, "GUNNER!" cant see gunner yet actually its the vets job, its the zealots job, its the psykers job, its the ogryn with the grenade launchers job, its the arby's dogs job, its the vets job
royal totem
Six is good at the game
plucky flax
370k is light work.
ripe obsidian
No, that is a 370k of annoyance
royal totem
Chaos soloes every single boss 😛
royal totem
yeah but then the whole, "GUNNER!" *cant see gunner yet actually* its the vets j...
sorry. my dog thinks its not its job
ripe obsidian
370k is light work.
I should not be doing 2.5x the boss damage of everyone else
plucky flax
You should because teammates don't like to hit bosses.
royal totem
similarly when i ping something for my dog sometimes its lazy and goes "eh maybe later"
tulip kettle
boss is alive
royal totem
what's hitting a boss? i'm busy hitting poxwalkers a room over!
tulip kettle
i have inferno
royal totem
hey Dom i have a weird question
tulip kettle
the other 3 players : better hit these poxwalkers im sure inferno will kill the boss
?
royal totem
if i stack a boss with a bunch of inferno stacks
then use a force sword with uncanny to push attack a few times
do i get the bonus rending?
tulip kettle
yes, but
ripe obsidian
Yes.
tulip kettle
it doesnt do much
plucky flax
Even syllo doesn't like hitting bosses as much as me.
tulip kettle
because SB already does good damage to unyielding, which all the monsters are
royal totem
fair
tulip kettle
you only really want that mechanic against crusher blobs
but BOY does it do work then
royal totem
i.....don't really play psyker so yeah
rain wren
similarly when i ping something for my dog sometimes its lazy and goes "eh ma...
No scooby snacks?
tulip kettle
plus, the act of force pushing the crushers also helps keep your team alive while they hit them at the same time
royal totem
see? look at Karien helping downed people up!
rancid jasper
i.....don't really play psyker so yeah
Get out of our channel 😡
royal totem
No scooby snacks?
you feed your dog snacks? i just let it eat heretics
fine. i'll leave
zealous wing
frame hunt almost over 
rain wren
you feed your dog snacks? i just let it eat heretics
It eats batteries and razor blades
royal totem
which ones are you missing?
plucky flax
Nemui and Karien double psyker in havoc40 when?
royal totem
i can't really tell
plucky flax
I want to learn. 
zealous wing
rescues, plasmagunners, castigators stance, and havoc crates
royal totem
It eats batteries and razor blades
damn. low maintenance
royal totem
Nemui and Karien double psyker in havoc40 when?
i don't think Karien or I play psyker -_-
plucky flax
zealous wing
nemui doesnt have drip 
royal totem
also i don't even have an h40 clear if you look at my character there's a 29 there. not a 40 -__-
plucky flax
Should ask karien.
royal totem
you're gonna make people think i'm good. i'm just a washed up arb that still dies in h27 😭
rain wren
i.....don't really play psyker so yeah
You should when a psyker farts something dies
tulip kettle
because you love the punishment
plucky flax
I don't think it's a super hard map.
It's just kind of long.
Riser, silo cluster or power matrix are harder this season.
royal totem
i've been doing okay on power matrix but onh god riser and silo -_-
zealous wing
dom whyyyy
tulip kettle
i dont get the hate vs riser i enjoy it
plucky flax
Power matrix the spot at the 2nd medicaestation is always tricky.
A lot of shooters and things just spawn all over the place.
fiery stratus
You should when a psyker farts something dies
plucky flax
Yeah in the tiny room near a set of stairs.
royal totem
yeah that one can be real ass
plucky flax
Once you make it to mid event it's a high chance of winning.
royal totem
until somebody shoots a poxburster when you're about to push it
and you die from it
and then the team dies shortly after
plucky flax
sry was me
royal totem
I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE I WAS CARRYING. I 100% WAS NOT
rain wren
https://tenor.com/view/fire-ass-fire-butt-man-fire-fart-gif-15465427
Lol ate soul food? It's what makes the soulblaze
royal totem
i'm too frightened to get the scoreboard mod. it would show how low my damage actually is ._.
plucky flax
Damage isn't everything I guess.
royal totem
i can go a whole h27 and only do 550k
plucky flax
But you need like 2 people with a lot of damage to clear h40 these days or it's just a slog.
That seems normal for h27 I think.
Hexis did like 700~800k yesterday so.
You're not far off.
cold ivy
higher havoc just means you gotta do everything a little faster (killing things, mostly) and play a little safer
otherwise it's more or less the same
royal totem
Six did 900k that round and i can't figure out how.
plucky flax
Hit more things.
cold ivy
yeah pretty much
modest perch
until somebody shoots a poxburster when you're about to push it
sry was me 
royal totem
i did figure out i do better with EX shotgun than bistol though
rain wren
until somebody shoots a poxburster when you're about to push it
Builds character
ripe obsidian
Six did 900k that round and i can't figure out how.
which?
royal totem
that round with potato and hexis
ripe obsidian
oh, I just press buttons
royal totem
the one where hexis had to stealth clutch
..........
uh......huh.....
idk if having the wrong shock maul and the wrong blitz had anything to do with my low damage tbqh
but probably bringing the arby maul with the impact blessing and some other not very useful blessing was not ideal
plucky flax
You can play support zealot and do big damage too if you hit things when not booking.
strong gulch
Superglue just squeezed all over my fingies. Air flowed through the nozzle, but super glue did not. sadge
royal totem
ooof 🙁 you ok?
strong gulch
yeah
just annoyed
it's also a sensory thing
not as bad as a hair stuck on my face
but ahhhh
at least my fingers aren't glued together
royal totem
glad to hear at least they're not glued together though
royal totem
good good
tulip kettle
You can play support zealot and do big damage too if you hit things when not boo...
"you" being "me" in this case XD
zealous wing
so we know hounds, bursters, bulwarks, and shotgunners can be heard by others
strong gulch
@tulip kettle @zealous wing Are y'all playing?
zealous wing
yeah i was gonna chill on a heresy QP and dom joined me
tulip kettle
yeee JOIN US
strong gulch
k
tulip kettle
chill gaming
zealous wing
i need to grind up to auric access, though, so i was gonna do damnation
plucky flax
"you" being "me" in this case XD
Not just me some other ppl too.
zealous wing
if youre fine with it that is
zealous wing
the h40s took my major focus spoons
cold ivy
i've definitely seen some marty thammer chorus zealots do good numbers in h40 but how do i know they weren't all chaos
tulip kettle
though i think if i drop some nodes that give team dmg and TDR for more nodes that give me dmg i could do a bit better
tulip kettle
yeah i tend to cos giving my psyker crit chance and DR is better than me doing dmg XD
zealous wing
yeah you gave me piety and the build was like 80% different and im like "the fuck i do with this bullshit"
royal totem
One day maybe ill ve good enough to play with chaos.
tulip kettle
buff everyone else 😄
zealous wing
cant buff if dead
royal totem
When i can successfully solo both twins
plucky flax
One day maybe ill ve good enough to play with chaos.
You can play it's just I only play on eu server.
plucky flax
Or rather whatever server gives me lowest ping.
tulip kettle
depends if shes being kind
royal totem
Sorry i only play on antarctica server 😭
tulip kettle
if she keeps just doing sweeps and waiting i dont struggle
verbal thistle
swirl and combo
tulip kettle
but when she combos its just, what do i do
block and dodge and wait
then she does it again immediately
then she sprints into me and blasts me into a corner
verbal thistle
havoc rinda has the stagger res like a crusher
force push and trauma can knock her to her feet
tulip kettle
and im like - guess ill die
with her shield up?
when i push her with shield up it does nothing
strong gulch
i think sheild does change it
cold ivy
i'm 95% sure twins are staggerproof (at least to conventional stagger) with shield up
zealous wing
pretty sure shield blocks chorus too, but, test was inconclusive. it seemed to once, then not again
plucky flax
Sorry i only play on antarctica server 😭
We're not playing then.
royal totem
On a serious note EU is sub 200 ping for me
verbal thistle
forgot I cant test bubble twins in meat ginder, since they spawn without one
zealous wing
but, while rinda by herself might be easy, once you throw in everything else, even pros die quickly
tulip kettle
ah
verbal thistle
iirc yeah they have more stagger res but they can be stopped
royal totem
I never play on NA west cuz there are no games there
tulip kettle
i find that once their shields are down i dont have a problem cos i usually have deimos and H2 bonk knocks em away miles
but with shields up its just pain
and it takes so long to break shield
zealous wing
cliff rinda, she will remember then cliff you
tulip kettle
literally
especially when i get to hit her like, one light attack between combos
im just both washed and noob tbh
zealous wing
nah
tulip kettle
plus dog bomb
earlier you BTL past her with shield up too
plucky flax
Both twins exploded once their shields are down and clumped up together Xd (clip)
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3I4Som3sfrs7b1IDWaeSnKUhuk4XRm8t?si=LLmwt6pUwo8OVKIU
royal totem
Damn 😮
cold ivy
skullcrusher is really good (ofc there's a lot of other factors but max stacked skullcrusher is probably pretty significant)
royal totem
Huh
verbal thistle
I sit in bubble
summer prairie
surge surge is pretty good vs the melee twin if you have to solo and play safe
rich spindle
What kill crushers with
verbal thistle
parry
verbal thistle
its joever
plucky flax
Good start.
I tried to parry overhead once with ds4 then I just died.
So I was like never again.
verbal thistle
hmm
I seem to have forgot how much I hate bulwarks
1 bash and loss all like 13 bars of stam
rain wren
Lol that's a lot of stamina
verbal thistle
I honestly want to try this challenge
tulip kettle
dooooo iiiitttt
verbal thistle
Maybe not right into a H40
But auric would be easy
2 things to consider is specials and cool down for bubble
Most specials don't melee attack
Dog mutant trapper
I can redirect someone else but that would be rough
Cool down can be ignored if I have a team do all do this with
ripe obsidian
Someone here wanna join me in H40?
Our 4th just dropped
Send me a join request pls
plucky flax
Nein.
ripe obsidian
</3
tulip kettle
or six
you could bail on the 40 dream and come fuck around with us
beans keeps exploding my friends
also trying to blow me up with inert barels
zealous wing
and i keep throwing knives at doms friends
strong gulch
Dom told me to stop exploding friends. 😭
tulip kettle
npnp
strong gulch
@tulip kettle idk if you're in a gabbin mood. we can vc if you want
zealous wing
back
strong gulch
wb
zealous wing
food has been ate
sudden trellis
anyone else get this weird bug where the game's EASY when you lock in psyker
daring hinge
yeah thats a weird bug i get too
zealous wing
very odd, honestly
plucky flax
anyone else get this weird bug where the game's *EASY* when you lock in psyker
No always hard
modest perch
anyone else get this weird bug where the game's *EASY* when you lock in psyker
erm u can say psyka
modest perch
I tried to parry overhead once with ds4 then I just died.
i miss the poke tbh
dclaw died so the toothpick might live
plucky flax
Ye i prefer the poke to quick stagger crusher too
modest perch
those are the ogryns problem
its staggering those fat rager hordes
n also how the parry animation is slightly longer than the slide so if u party while sliding u have to start sprinting agaib
lmao party while sliding yippi yipiie
wraith sphinx
i miss the poke tbh
Same, I dislike the dsword parry
Now I just use the taxe instead precisely to stagger ragers
strong gulch
@tulip kettle coat go up
wraith sphinx
anyone else get this weird bug where the game's *EASY* when you lock in psyker
Yeah but it causes some weird behavior in havoc where you will never get accepted for a havoc game above 20
zealous wing
hang on i gotta edit the clip
zealous wing
yes
tulip kettle
what happens in damnation stays in damnation
wraith sphinx
Would it?
strong gulch
yes
wraith sphinx
Actually yeah no peril bar would be pretty annoying
modest perch
Same, I dislike the dsword parry
i use it as needed or if it seems funny but its a poor substitute for the poke
#unnerftoothpick
strong gulch
no reticle for aiming
quartz barn
Ngl h40 no hud hitless would make for an insane yt vid
Prob also the best promotion the game can get
zealous wing
@tulip kettle @strong gulch i pulled out some fancy editing for this one
strong gulch
no pings or enemy tags
quartz barn
Make sure to turn off any effects too ye
tulip kettle
<@453628860567650304> <@417891087500312576> i pulled out some fancy editing for ...
it says shotgunner
strong gulch
<@453628860567650304> <@417891087500312576> i pulled out some fancy editing for ...
lmao
tulip kettle
it means vindicare assasin
yeah i noticed you edited out the 20 seconds before -.-
we wont talk about what happened there will we hex
zealous wing
you want the five minutes before?
zealous wing
twice?
wraith sphinx
i use it as needed or if it seems funny but its a poor substitute for the poke
I don't like how it isn't spammable like the dclaw parry so I just use dclaw instead
tulip kettle
strong gulch
ok
no hud wasn't that bad but my sense of where I and the enemies are got heckin messed up; especially as I got more tired
i was too scared to go high peril
zealous wing
zealous wing
you said 20 seconds before. i did not go down in that section, if i did during that map
tulip kettle
maybe i was the chatgpt all along
zealous wing
real
zealous wing
i was gonna stab her in the face
strong gulch
i could have stopped it
zealous wing
it was entirely on me
strong gulch
u right
so funny thing
my aim is not worse with no hud
it's either as bad or better
zealous wing
instinct rather than trying to aim i imagine
strong gulch
maybe
zealous wing
i aim better when im not trying to aim
strong gulch
I might have to change some setting later
zealous wing
the crosshair one?
strong gulch
yeah
tulip kettle
tulip kettle
sleep time?
strong gulch
bed time at least
zealous wing
o7
strong gulch
gonna change a thing while I remember.
strong gulch
ye thanks for games
tulip kettle
great fun 🙂
zealous wing
am back
zealous wing
im gonna test the dot being off
strong gulch
yeah. I'll try next time I play
if I like it, I'll move stuff around
zealous wing
dot off with throwing knives might be a bitch
the good news is i can turn it back on anytime, if midmission it gets too much struggle
also, getting there
be easier if dom didnt keep EK LMB my elites
wraith sphinx
also
what if I try playing with no peril % and just the bar?
ezpz
bar filling up is more readable at glance for me than a number
strong gulch
also volume
recently found out about visual timers and they make time more comprehensible
so I wonder if after a few games just the gauge would go well
zealous wing
probably
modest perch
I don't like how it isn't spammable like the dclaw parry so I just use dclaw ins...
gross
wraith sphinx
weird way to spell awesome but ok
modest perch
sry i only melee when the blunts fail to deal with crushers (as they often do with their simple minds)
summer prairie
this bubble purg did half the damage of surge surge without dying
summer prairie
h40 bubble purg build with knife
pallid stump
so uhhh bad idea time
smite for hordes and to help team mates kill them, voidblast staff and force sword for single target
i am not cooking
long saddle
you lost us at smite
pallid stump
yeah knew that'd happened
i dont get why smite is so hated besides only using it for the entire mission
long saddle
h40 bubble purg build with knife
the bait build
pallid stump
it helps with crowd control
summer prairie
massive channeled force value too
long saddle
the area is a bit too big, the other tools to lock things in place are more limited
pallid stump
that's the problem with smite?
long saddle
zealous wing
it turns off everyones on dodge talents
tulip kettle
there are a million issues with smite
long saddle
someone should just have that pinned lol
tulip kettle
i just played it for a game because hex complained i was killing stuff
i almost fell asleep in the first room
ripe obsidian
h40 bubble purg build with knife
What is this
summer prairie
a pub purg player who did half the damage of surge surge
ripe obsidian
I do not like it, Sam I Am.
zealous wing
but nah, just normal missions i can still move around and hit the thing
smite, made everything lock in place, meaning, that gunner in the center? cant reach
knives also kinda ass on the new gunner hp
the armoured one
might need to grab a talent like this
ripe obsidian
I had a Smyker in one of my H40 games earlier. Guy did no damage and died whenever something ignored the stun
pearl coral
Its been 1 minute without smite
tulip kettle
smite is too good in low difficulty
pearl coral
My hands are shaking
long saddle
on paper my build has SG EP Smite, but in reality it's a charged strike build
zealous wing
assail is also too good in low difficulty... the difference, is its still good in high diff
tulip kettle
on paper my build has SG EP Smite, but in reality it's a charged strike build
i mean
ripe obsidian
I did not win any H40 games tonight. Got close on one, but the gunner firing squad killed us all
tulip kettle
why are you taking EP and not DD then
long saddle
more dmg
summer prairie
smite is still op in high difficulty
long saddle
on charged strike
tulip kettle
DD would be much more dmg but, ok
pearl coral
You use Smite on high difficulties to troll. I use Smite on high difficulties because my PC is too damn laggy on said difficulties to warrant complex movement and strats. We are not the same.
long saddle
but I like the DOT
tulip kettle
smite is still op in high difficulty
until the blue stimms come
or previously the red enemies
or any boss
zealous wing
question
summer prairie
it still stops most of the enemies, actually giving you space to deal with those
tulip kettle
because its more?
zealous wing
is 10% more than 100% ?
tulip kettle
its +100%
long saddle
it's 100% of 5%
summer prairie
You can run something like this and only use smite in proper situations , surge surge + melee
tulip kettle
so like on DS you are always heavying so is better
summer prairie
only sacrificing some damage from KF
long saddle
yeah a lot of people do
zealous wing
fucking fatshark need to get their linguists replaced
tulip kettle
You can run something like this and only use smite in proper situations , surge ...
omly pros could play this on surge surge
perfectionism + cruel fortune
and no KF for free weakspots
how do i hit heads
summer prairie
with your sword
summer prairie
not allowed to join without bubble
tulip kettle
normal.
pearl coral
Would EK + Smite be considered a troll/hated build? I'm unfamiliar with the meta but love using the two in combination.
summer prairie
bubble knight is my only bubble build
tulip kettle
just make one real quick for party finder
long saddle
I have a reg purg bubble one I only use for havoc
otherwise my only other is bubble knight
pallid stump
i mean...the mission went pretty good with smite, use it for crow controll, bit of FGS and voidstrike for single target
tulip kettle
tbh i dont run bubble on inferno in havoc anymore either, i have been converted to the church of shriek
is just better
i have EE and deflector for emergencies
pallid stump
i get it that smite is a crutch but like....its good if you dont just spam it the whole ass mission
long saddle
but the others NEED your bubble
zealous wing
yeah thats why dom has me on bubble
tulip kettle
if they arent poop
zealous wing
because dom needs bubble
long saddle
but they don't want to take the chance
tulip kettle
factual
long saddle
hence why they rejected syllo there above
tulip kettle
bubble is often a death sentence anyway, they stand in it but dont shoot the gunners outside of it and it breaks in 5 seconds
zealous wing
take inferno with KR, and the double shield
tulip kettle
then theyre stood out in the open being turned to swiss cheese
ripe obsidian
but the others NEED your bubble
In like 90% of my experiences, if people can't survive without bubble, they struggle a lot even with it
zealous wing
bubble puts you in control of the group, which is good if you know where to go
long saddle
ye im just making fun of them
tulip kettle
i also think the way souldrinker is accessible now and gives so much toughness makes bubble much less needed for yourself
zealous wing
i hope they dont ever remove it deleting projectiles inside it, tbh... i like the concept of using defensive "spells" as offensive
tulip kettle
i have refined the smite build
now it does even LESS damage
but i can cast it EVEN MORE
pallid stump
hmm
zealous wing
dusk wren
but i can cast it EVEN MORE
smite scrier?
tulip kettle
already had scrier
i accidently took EP
when i should have taken siphon with inner tranq
dusk wren
ah true, EP means smite does actual damage, but if you just want to keep smiting i suppose you pick something else
tulip kettle
yeah i never have that on
but i also use custom crosshairs
i think there would only be a dot when using throwing knife and doing objectives
zealous wing
shame
tulip kettle
that setting doesnt remove weapon crosshair, which is a dot for melee
zealous wing
because throwing knife doesnt have its own thing
so ill just leave it on i suppose
also also
cosmic cobalt
you can just change the melee crosshair though
pallid stump
but i can cast it EVEN MORE
but are you gonna be only using smite?
zealous wing
theres this random THUNK noise that plays sometimes when im in the mourningstar
dusk wren
why would you pick smite if you aren't going to use it 99% of the time
zealous wing
like something being selected but more like a hollow pumpkin being smacked
dusk wren
cmon man
pallid stump
why would you pick smite if you aren't going to use it 99% of the time
because it is good crowd controll
zealous wing
its HORRIBLE CC
tulip kettle
but are you gonna be only using smite?
as much as possible
pallid stump
how?
tulip kettle
and yes its garbo
full sage
Should a psyker even bring smite if there is a shock mine arbiter in the team ?
pallid stump
how is it horrible?
dusk wren
my body is a machine that turns lone enemies into smites
pallid stump
sigh, then i dont know how to use smite
tulip kettle
https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-neat-part-invincible-gif-3109787441708074597
zealous wing
if youre permasmyker, you have no idea how to use smite
zealous wing
if you smite the things people are actively handling fine, you dont know how to use smite
full sage
i use it for crowd controll
Best crowd control is killing your enemies
dusk wren
damn this made me think, why was i using the top scrier upgrade instead of the bottom one
pallid stump
smite is useless damn
full sage
No, it can be used
long saddle
throwing them on the ground leaves them incapacitated the longest
zealous wing
if you smite a horde with someone in the middle, congrats, you dont know how to smite
dusk wren
smite is good, ignore the haters and keep spamming it
long saddle
trauma supremacy
pallid stump
i do not want to fucking spam it
dusk wren
you are missing out
zealous wing
using smite as a shriek is the best method
tulip kettle
smite is pretty OK as a tool in poxburster maelstrom
full sage
The issue with smite is that, if you have a shock mine arbiter, or a taunt ogryn, then the value of your smite is greatly reduced, because thats when you should pump as much damage as possible as psyker
tulip kettle
The issue with smite is that, if you have a shock mine arbiter, or a taunt ogryn...
this is one of the more minor issues but yeah for sure
long saddle
or stun zealot
pallid stump
The issue with smite is that, if you have a shock mine arbiter, or a taunt ogryn...
according to @zealous wing you never know how to use smite
so why even use it
long saddle
it's way too many steps to do that unfort
tulip kettle
quick blast to throw stuff away from you
dusk wren
in reality, people hate smiters because they are actually made obsolete by them
tulip kettle
stop burster trains
long saddle
switch to smite, charge up for most range, do it for 1 sec, stop, switch back to a weapon
full sage
shit happens in havoc. You arent always holding a chokehold with your entire team. Smite can be useful in situations where the other blitz wouldnt
pallid stump
quick blast to throw stuff away from you
alright so you're telling me if someone is in the middle of a horde and they need breathing space use smite?
pallid stump
again
zealous wing
in reality, people hate smiters because they are actually made obsolete by them
do you have a havoc solo video we can watch to prove this?
pallid stump
no fuck this
tulip kettle
there is much more to psyker than smite
pallid stump
whatever build i try i get shit on
tulip kettle
?
dusk wren
do you have a havoc solo video we can watch to prove this?
i have a malice solo video where i lose 90% of my life to a poxer, is that valid
full sage
Also, the current havoc modifiers is kinda mixed for smite psykers. You REALLY want to be using inferno staff as much as possible
long saddle
ye I'd say 5 wounds crystalline will psyker is more viable
and that is not a good build lol
tulip kettle
smite teaches bad habits, you dont learn the game, it turns the game off in lower difficulties and in high havoc you will just die using it
full sage
Smite teaches you to stand still and shout "HIT THEM!"
zealous wing
honestly, fuck whoever first said smite scrier was a good idea
full sage
Then you get hit with blue stimms enemies, who just ignore your smite, walk up to you, and one hit you
dusk wren
i found smite scrier the most fun i had with psyker after the incredibly boring purgatus bubble
zealous wing
"oh you can smite infinitely" and now people think it makes them valuable as a psyker
that stupid build is causing such frustration, for everyone
even the smykers
full sage
Meanwhile, arbiter placing a shock mine that lasts 10 seconds or something, and loses no dps at all
long saddle
all other CC forms allows you to just go back to attacking things
full sage
This is also why pulse zealot has fallen out. Too long cooldown, and you are standing still not helping
tulip kettle
it also makes your team mates go "oh im safe here those crushers are being smote"
then smite ends and they go squish
dusk wren
their fault
tulip kettle
indeed but still
dusk wren
this is why i keep smiting for at least 10 seconds at a time
tulip kettle
the longer the cast the worse that problem is
dusk wren
how does that make a difference
so they know it's going to last
zealous wing
doesnt help that i am pretty sure the stim ones can use stims even while being stunned
tulip kettle
if you only smite for a second every time they wont ever think that
long saddle
no they don't
full sage
But just in general, unless the enemy is somehow CC immune, a good team shouldnt struggle with CCs. Arbiter charge, nades and mines, ogryn taunt and grenades, veteran shout, you can knock enemies down again and again
dusk wren
their fault, then
dusk wren
come hell or high water, i will keep smiting
zealous wing
hell, youre the psyker, youre supposed to be killing things, everything
dusk wren
no, i'm supposed to keep smiting
long saddle
CC is an added bonus of psyker being a murder machine
zealous wing
youre supposed to be barreled
strong gulch
I did not win any H40 games tonight. Got close on one, but the gunner firing squ...
Sry about H40s. You missed out on my no HUD run. I ran around really confused. No objective icons. No markers. No tags. No reticle. NO PERIL GAUGE.
I forgot to shriek for basically the who mission.
At the end it felt like I couldn't make sense of where I or the enemies were. Lol
deft stump
hell, youre the psyker, youre supposed to be killing things, everything
Kinda wish they leaked their FS code to block maybe?
white valley
I have literally started asking psykers what they're running if I'm not playing psyker, just because I don't want a smyker
rancid jasper
are darktide servers struggling? im hearing something about a huge internet outage
white valley
I do not do this with any other class
summer prairie
If you just use smite to reposition or maybe to enable resses, it's very good even with stimms since you'll spread them out. The dodges are good enough especially with anticipation to keep going forever as long as you don't get flanked https://streamable.com/hq8hlr
dusk wren
are darktide servers struggling? im hearing something about a huge internet outa...
this would explain why reddit and canva are having problems
wonder what's up
summer prairie
you don't have to sacrifice much to grab it with some builds
rancid jasper
this would explain why reddit and canva are having problems
dusk wren
also yeah, even without anticipation, the dodge is good enough, dunno how people get hit
ohh, amazon servers are just kaput
god, shitty guardian asking to accept cookies or subscribe
literally not legal in the eu
rancid jasper
you don't have to sacrifice much to grab it with some builds
honestly with the recent tree rework there's so many insanely good nodes to grab i find anticipation harder to fit
quartz barn
Wdym cookies are mandatory
tulip kettle
If you just use smite to reposition or maybe to enable resses, it's very good ev...
meanwhile with inferno and an uncanny sword
they would all be dead
summer prairie
takes forever to kill with inferno and usually you'd rather just apply more stacks on other targets
tulip kettle
it really doesnt
summer prairie
yes it does
zealous wing
"it takes foreverto kill with inferno"
zealous wing
tulip kettle
push with force sword uncanny
summer prairie
How novel
summer prairie
you can just hit them instead of wasting time pushing unless you are scared
summer prairie
it still takes forever when they have nearly 10k hp
tulip kettle
push always head
rancid jasper
push always head
i love to use this interaction to stack true aim
tulip kettle
i mean i dont know anything with even remotely similar ttk on a 20 crusher blob
white valley
rumbler spam?
rancid jasper
i mean i dont know anything with even remotely similar ttk on a 20 crusher blob
maybe oggy frag grenade. or does that not have good rend?
tulip kettle
and in real games the push is often better because youre also CC'ing in the choke so your team mates can stand and bonk safely
it also has a much longer range
yeah sure ill poke em in the face if i get the chance but usually its push tbh
long saddle
you also shouldn't be in situations where you have to face 5+ crushers by yourself
or expect to have to kill them all
rancid jasper
you also shouldn't be in situations where you have to face 5+ crushers by yourse...
it happens sometimes
depending on teammates especially
long saddle
yes ofc
rancid jasper
and maelstroms
summer prairie
usually they aren't in a neat blob like that and you are still spending 41 seconds in an ideal scenario
tulip kettle
i mean i inferno'd nothing to simulate me directing fire elsewhere and building peril
i also started with 0 peril and 0 charges
idk
summer prairie
peril and charges barely matter
tulip kettle
i dont know anything that kills 12+ crushers in like 20 seconds or so
summer prairie
that was 41 seconds
summer prairie
6 seconds
zealous wing
it was 30 seconds roughly from when he started flaming to when they died
rancid jasper
anticipation or JaD?
tulip kettle
you said infenro is bad at killing crushers and i disagreed
summer prairie
and when you are pushing to get stacks you are wasting other target dps
summer prairie
I said it's slow
zealous wing
anticipation or JaD?
depends what youre doing
summer prairie
it's barely ever 20 crushers
tulip kettle
can you show me you killing that many faster?
tulip kettle
i mean we see this sort of thing all the time in havoc
rancid jasper
depends what youre doing
putting this choice of goated talents on a single row of the tree is so mean 😭
zealous wing
it's barely ever 20 crushers
rotten armour would disagree
summer prairie
of course infinite cleave eventually outscales everything
even in rotten armour they come from different directions and it only feels like 20
tulip kettle
right so like, no hate syllo but, why are you disagreeing
okay so like, 10 crushers and 10 maulers and 6 ragers then
same difference
summer prairie
why are you not agreeing