psyker-class

[zealous wing]

:(

only thing better than 1 ogryn is 2 ogryns

[wraith sphinx]

the connection is ass though

[royal totem]

4 explodegryns

[wraith sphinx]

did I get dropped into a NZ match

[young cliff]

you folks think using a chan axe with Bloodletter paired with a rending VB staff could be a good combo?

[zealous wing]

just be careful. first time i tried that penance, i got halfway through then some asshole ogryn literally walked away from the dog that had me pinned

[jovial juniper]

So so

Thunderous Bloodletter is all the brittleness you need (single target)

[young cliff]

isnt the better 1 ogryn + rock? 2 ogryns feels like overkill

[jovial juniper]

No such thing as overkill

[zealous wing]

my ogryn has shield and rock, plus an ogryn with booms, go very well together

one with refilling sniping, and the other with emergency nuke, sounds good to me

[fading escarp]

50% damage with a brain burst huh

[zealous wing]

ye usually we just go full on kill it all the way to guarentee, esp if theres bots, or barrel damage, etc

better safe, than needing another monstrosity

[young cliff]

true, i was thinking too much, side effect of too much sparkhead gaming, instead of oggy

[thorn cedar]

Almost three years ago I had gotten Flawless Execution (2) and, not knowing there was a Flawless Execution (3), barreled myself off a map for laughs at the end of an Assassination mission after the Captain was already dead while at 14/15.

I still don't have Flawless Execution (3).

[zealous wing]

OOF

[wraith sphinx]

based

[zealous wing]

well, you got the steam achievement at least

theres that in life

[thorn cedar]

and i got a funny story

[zealous wing]

youre one of the like, 4%

eh 5%

[wraith sphinx]

this shit is tough

so much harder than sedition but I may make it

[zealous wing]

fucking memory leak crashes

the actual fuck

[strong gulch]

ye is common

[zealous wing]

not until recently

like, last 3 days recently

[summer prairie]

It's mods

[strong gulch]

ye is mods

[zealous wing]

they shouldnt be using that much 😭

[summer prairie]

Increase your Lua memory allocation if you haven't

[thorn cedar]

download more ram

[cosmic cobalt]

lol

[royal totem]

Lmao

My comp doesnt have that much ram

[wraith sphinx]

my pc doesn't meet minimum requirements but I have never had an oom crash

only a couple times in the weapon mastery screen after having the game open for areally long time

[royal totem]

My eyes are burned...

I accidentally clicked on zealot chat

[wind spruce]

I don't even have flawless execution (1)

Can't bring myself to play it safe... or even just defensively

It I'm not under threat of dying I'm going to force myself into a situation where I will be

[royal totem]

Its somewhat teammate dependent imo

[kind jay]

[ripe obsidian]

Playing safe is for cowards. Charge in.

[cosmic cobalt]

gambling

[wraith sphinx]

how very rousing

[wraith sphinx]

[young cliff]

Hey mate, a big thanks for this guidelines, i do have som questions:
-the melee side seems to be short, and the Brain burst build isnt there, is this accidental or the build is still not figured?
-will it be expanded to take on unortodox weapons like chain axes and the shock mauls? or that escapes the scope of this?
this have helped me figure a better adjustments for builds that arent even in it so many thanks for the effort put on that guide

[marble crater]

I don't think this is the final version

[wraith sphinx]

the icon looks pretty solid too

[young cliff]

probably, but it has a fair bit of things that dumb ole me didnt considered

[ripe obsidian]

Is not finished yet. I have done the staff builds, still need to get melee done. Same with the Brain Burst build

I will make an effort to cover most or all melee weapons

[young cliff]

ty for the answer, and again thanks for it mate, you are a rockstar

[ripe obsidian]

I am glad it has helped you, though

[thorn cedar]

Man some dude in the Battlefield subreddits came in with receipts and some juicy data, lmao

I knew the Assault class was overrepresented in BF4 but the actual numbers were wild. 40% of all kills were from Assault with the remaining 60% split very unevenly between the other three classes.

The AEK-971 had more kills than the entire PDW weapon subclass combined.

[white sky]

Tbf i feel like assault is most played is a water is wet type of statement

I imagine next most is engi tbh

[thorn cedar]

Yes but to the extent given is VERY crazy

And yes Engi is a distant second place.

And the other intriguing data point was that the overrepresentation of Assault players did not correlate to more revives because you didn't actually have to equip defibs in that title.

Anyway this is all very funny to me because there's a whole lot of losers making a big stink about the open weapon system for BF6 and how it'll supposedly kill teamwork.

[white sky]

In my experience them having defibs doesn't nessecarily make them more likely to revive either

[thorn cedar]

The new dragging system is so fucken good

[weak galleon]

Can this be made to work on Inferno? How useful is that explosion.

[thorn cedar]

Not at all.

[cold ivy]

iirc it's 50-100 damage, so basically one tick of your primary fire

i mean... it can work in the sense that anything works if you're skilled enough, but iirc the difference between having showstopper and not having a blessing at all is not that much

[marble crater]

The difference between using showstopper and not using it, that you will only have one blessing instead of two, if you use it

[weak galleon]

yeah ty, sounds mostly useless.

[cold ivy]

if it were 10x more damage (500-1000) that wasn't reduced by carapace i can see it maybe being useful in really high density mixed hordes where you could explode ragers/maulers onto crushers

[weak galleon]

still hating on this update's psyker tree.
recreated my warp flurry/blaze away purgatus build, found myself 1 point short of critical stuff.
Fucking hell.

[cosmic cobalt]

how do you manage to do that lmao

[marble crater]

By taking things you think are critical, but probably aren't

[weak galleon]

i think I could give up One with the Warp before for more dps.
Anywhere I can check for the old tree?

[marble crater]

Maybe old builds on gameslantern that weren't updated?

[zealous wing]

old builds dont exist anymore

i tried to look at the bubblesquire build dom made me, but it 404

made me real glad i took a video archive of all my builds

[weak galleon]

nah, doesnt work. It shows broken builds with new tree.

[marble crater]

Rip

[zealous wing]

you might be able to find a screenshot of it here, perhaps, if you posted it or someone else did?

[weak galleon]

wouldnt remind me specific talent location. havent played actively since 2024 until this september, so dont remember what was what.

[ripe obsidian]

I have builds in the pins!

[zealous wing]

oh so just what the old tree was in itself?

[weak galleon]

yeah

[strong gulch]

Here's some old trees.

[zealous wing]

i have a video archive of that

[marble crater]

Eww

[zealous wing]

pause to read specific talents, but it shows everything with names and all

[thorn cedar]

nostalgia. i had a full head of hair back then. and a working erection. halcyon days of my youth ...

[zealous wing]

ignore the build, it was present during panic save mode

[strong gulch]

something something discrete shipping

[weak galleon]

Ty, only 2 point tax between Auras and Ults, unlike 3 points now, but 1 less point to reach keystone.
and we didnt have Ogryn/Monster dmg talent.

Which leaves me at exactly -1 point.
ugh, tough choice.

[wraith sphinx]

man that fucking sucked lmao

30 minute long malice missions cos event

[wind spruce]

Take the blue pill, neo

[thorn cedar]

argh my heart

[weak galleon]

Kinetic Resonance vs Vulnerable Minds? I can only pick one.
Warp Flurry/Blaze Away inferno with Warp Siphon and Venting Shriek.

non-havoc, just auric,

[thorn cedar]

KR is the faster BB right

[weak galleon]

yes.

[wraith sphinx]

this frame actually looks pretty cool though

I want this

[thorn cedar]

Share ur tree cause there's probably better than both

[zealous wing]

you can do it in any mortis

just dont use the medicae

[thorn cedar]

vulnerable is ok but it really only translates into marginal more bulwark/reaper/boss damage which is not a lot of the overall target pool

[wraith sphinx]

boretis

IT'S AURIC OR NOTHING

[zealous wing]

i got it in malice, and i used an ammo crate. its fuckin bugged and means nothing cuz fatshark

i just wanted to see the new map

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/nerf-nerf-or-nothing-de-pomp-almkerk-almkerk-de-pomp-gif-23162781

[weak galleon]

No, i'm not giving up Kinetic Deflection on this build in particular. Nor can I give up Battle Meditation on Warp Flurry Inferno, it gives too much uptime during dense hordes.

[thorn cedar]

Empatic evasion

Right of Psyk Aura

[wind spruce]

If you're not taking perfect timing I'd be getting the patch for Uptime that tracks peril and working out if it's actually inferior to warp rider

[thorn cedar]

You can also drop PotS for something else cause PotS is pretty shit too

[weak galleon]

should it work well on Maulers/Scab Ragers?

[thorn cedar]

scab ragers are actually Flak for dot purposes

same for maulers

its really just Crushers and Twins

[marble crater]

Drop the toughness node from warp charges too

[thorn cedar]

and its REALLY not much of a gain

[weak galleon]

eh, I can give it up then for Ogryn/Monstrosity damage.

[cosmic cobalt]

what is this build

[thorn cedar]

20% rending = i sleep
20% brittleness = real shit

[weak galleon]

why not, if I can keep them ticking?

[thorn cedar]

sadly they gave us rending

[wind spruce]

Two points for kinetic deflection when you could just grab more stam from ghost plus the other insane benefits is eepy

[marble crater]

Because you don't need it, you will have enough toughness regen if you pick the things at the top, like mettle and one out of Quietude or soulstealer

[wind spruce]

Could swap a toughness curio out for stam so you get 5 in exchange for KD and the 25% from ghost would make up for that... plus you get an extra talent point and don't lose peril in downtime

[marble crater]

ER, KD and Warp Ghost, my beloveds

[wind spruce]

There's just no way KD is correct

There's too many good nodes on the tree to spend two talent points on it

Especially with the absurd stam and toughness ghost gives

[cosmic cobalt]

kd help when you're getting jumped by ragers but whatever

[strong gulch]

Haven't realy given the new havoc enough of a try to know if I want KD there or not, but rn I only rec KD on parry spam builds.

[wind spruce]

Stam exists

[thorn cedar]

i rely on KD to feed me and my family
(canadian joke)

[wind spruce]

Curio slots are not worth as much as some of the talents that are being skipped

[cosmic cobalt]

stam is no where near kd in term of blocking

[thorn cedar]

anyway who playin

[strong gulch]

I like KD because I don't move enough.

[thorn cedar]

got my big green havoc insignia woo

[strong gulch]

so skissue lmao

[wind spruce]

You can make up the difference with curio blessings and perks

[weak galleon]

dunno, KD psyker in the past could facetank even Daemonhost for prolonged period of time.
Don't know about now, but it's absolutely ridiculous level of tankiness is why I don't want to drop it.

[wind spruce]

And if that saves TWO talent points there's no way it's not worth

[thorn cedar]

honestly even then its an insane investment

[strong gulch]

I will watch people play. I'm not really well enough to play rn

[cosmic cobalt]

there not much competing with it on staves

same for gunker

[graceful arch]

Won't be home for another 15 to 16 hours.

[thorn cedar]

i think three stam + KD probably blocks as much as 3x 3+ stam curios with full block efficiency

you get the full benefit of your peril bar + the stamina bar at the end with KD

[wind spruce]

The build we're looking at doesn't have ghost, perfect timing or EE though

[weak galleon]

• Venting Shriek. Don't forget that one.

[thorn cedar]

and ofc in a real match its not really about eating a giant battery of hits

yea youll do stuff like shriek

or therell be pauses in the fight for stamina to regen

etc.

[cosmic cobalt]

I think it a build problem but whatever

I was talking about kd in general

not having perfect timing in general is just eh

[thorn cedar]

Me: alright lets try this build out
the mourningstar lobby: -EXPLOSIVE CHATTERING-

[wind spruce]

Yeah but you just don't need that much. You could run 3 x block efficiency 3 x stam regen, a 3 stam curio stacked on top of the 3 stam from talents and that would be more than enough and easily worth two talents for most builds

[thorn cedar]

man you'd be surprised

everyone thinks block is dumb until theyre trying to save their last teammate and surrounded

[wind spruce]

Ok, yes, that is the use case

But saving yourself from ragers? Fuck no

You shouldn't be taking that many hits even in an extremely high stress, cooked situation bc dodges exist

[weak galleon]

I also pair KD with Deflector FGS.
Actually, does it work on the new plasma guys, or do they get through Deflector like Snipers?

[kind jay]

it does

[wind spruce]

Blocks plasmas so efficiently it's nuts

[weak galleon]

heh, didnt expect that

[wind spruce]

Take like 4% peril

[cosmic cobalt]

3 block efficiency 3 stam regen is a high ask lol

[graceful arch]

Where will i slot in my 2 bomber res 2 gunner res then

[wind spruce]

Yeah but I'm just making the case that I would answer that ask for two talent points in this situation

[cosmic cobalt]

you don't need bomber res

you need to move

bruh

[graceful arch]

But pox gas can cover the entire fucking planet

I'm not taking it for fire bombs.

[wind spruce]

Pox gas is so unthreatening

[cosmic cobalt]

I usually just run 2 gunner 2 rev 2 tough but maybe that just me

[wind spruce]

Just regen toughness

[wind spruce]

Exp, dockets and flamer resist

[graceful arch]

I usually don't find it threatening up until there's nothing to Regen toughness off and I need to move trough it.

[ripe obsidian]

I need to check the code again, but for at least a short time bomber resist only affected their kicks.

[graceful arch]

It was fixed a while ago

[wind spruce]

Just generate peril then quell it

You should have quietude

[zealous wing]

yeah their fire affects toughness while fire barrel fire goes straight through

so its a different thing now

(i learned this for sure doing marty zealot, finding ways to lower my HP safely)

[graceful arch]

Barrel fire doing half my health cause I thought it was bomber fire.

[zealous wing]

ACCURATE

esp if they're stacked

[thorn cedar]

that can be a rather nasty surprise

[strong gulch]

But did it rebreak (again)

[zealous wing]

i could test this on marty when im not in orgyn mood

safest character to test on in a live session

either way my goal is to take damage so i dont look like a moron psyker just standing in fire

"im doing a penance" "im doing science"

[thorn cedar]

"my cat jumped on my keyboard"

[wind spruce]

not me intentionally taking half of Big Doms health off in the first 2 mins of a H40 the other day

[strong gulch]

The time my cat stole my mouse mid game.

[solid pond]

got true survivor without even trying

whole 28 damage taken

[cosmic cobalt]

the difficulty of getting true survivor is your teammate

I still haven't got it because it legit impossible to have a non rando team in sea

[solid pond]

I had @potent saffron @icy breach @lament obsidian so kinda

but we weren't going for it, just pushing people for 40 lol

[cosmic cobalt]

also that one time i blow myself up when inside the thing at the end of the mission but we don't talk about that

legit would be my first

[wraith sphinx]

I like this frame

[potent saffron]

Calculated TS moment trust me

[weak galleon]

fucking finally, a proper backpack for that armor.

[icy breach]

All according to plan

[solid pond]

[marble crater]

New strat for killing Daemonhosts

[icy breach]

always has been

[verbal thistle]

@ripe obsidian I'm not the best at reading the code, but are you able to read what new blockade is exactly?

[zealous wing]

meanwhile, arby decided to walk over a DH and right as they did a BoN spawned... :p

[verbal thistle]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/dc3388395e5cef46a39237ae3ab24e2771e91f6c/scripts/managers/pacing/horde_pacing/templates/mutator_horde_pacing_template.lua#L198

[lone ravine]

arbite so nasty the DH had to call in backup

[weak galleon]

is there a bug where game has issues saving changes to talent tree or smth?
Reloaded the game before going into match, it gave me my previous build iteration, even before I dropped a screenshot of new one in this chat.

[languid tusk]

wholesome ultragreatsword vs evil dueling sword

[strong gulch]

new blockade

[zealous wing]

its a frequent bug

switch builds then back again to "save"

its not ideal but its a work around

better than my zealots bug atm

wont keep a profile selected

if i exit then re-enter the menu, nothing is selected

[strong gulch]

ye that bug is so annoying

[zealous wing]

i want it gone :(

[teal copper]

Im ngl ive come to tge conclusion that at this current moment

The voidstrike staff is hot ass

And that makes me sad

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah been that way before update

[marble crater]

In the 41st millennium, Voidstrike is still ass

[strong gulch]

voidflop

voidslop

[thorn cedar]

so i have confirmed that SG + JaD + Quietude lets me stand in tox gas indefinitely

and of course
snorts
goes without saying that mind in motion means i can just run straight thru that shit while doin it

[cosmic cobalt]

why mim

[thorn cedar]

WHY MIND IN MOTION THEY ASK

FOOLISH

[wind spruce]

ugh if only dream directly procced quietude

we'd only need 800 toughness base and we'd be literally invincible

[thorn cedar]

did the old tree have a +1 stamina node

i really cannot recall

[wind spruce]

no

[thorn cedar]

didnt think so

i do love warp ghost but i wont lie

same thing with warp unleashed for me -- ive already been playing around not having these tools for so long that i dont really need them

but the +2 stam it gives is like

actually so fucking good just by itself lmao

[wind spruce]

yep lol

[marble crater]

Warp Ghost gave me 21% more HP

[thorn cedar]

thats exactly it

well actually

[wind spruce]

OR

[thorn cedar]

less than that

cause we lost a 5% hp node

[wind spruce]

an extra talent or two

[thorn cedar]

or was it 10%?

whatever

[wind spruce]

10%

[thorn cedar]

this was decades ago, who could remember

[teal copper]

Mind in motion is shid, i can quell 60+ peril in like 2 seconds

[wind spruce]

why the fuck am i running true aim with a smite/EK build

[teal copper]

Useless perk...,.,.,

[wind spruce]

to prove KD is mid thats why

[teal copper]

Lightning man

[thorn cedar]

there are many things i could take instead of WG in my build

[marble crater]

To think I respected you

[teal copper]

Honestly if you use mind flayer, that farms headshots so you eventually get free crit

[wind spruce]

HEY HEY THE SMITE IS FOR CHARGED STRIKE OK

[marble crater]

Sure it is

[wind spruce]

😭

[marble crater]

Let it be known: Irosk is a smyker

[wind spruce]

its true

[wind spruce]

im obsessed with UNLIMITED BOREDOMMMMM

[teal copper]

Ive never come across a situation where smite does more than nuking with a trauma staff

[thorn cedar]

AAAH FUCK THE MOURNINGSTAR

SO LOUD

one at a FUCKING TIME PLEASE

[wind spruce]

then you're playing smite wrong tbh

its strong af its just lame

[teal copper]

ah yes let me tickle the batch of chucklefucks in carapace for 30 minutes straight

Idk man its smite

Even empowered psionics doesnt do much for it

[wind spruce]

sorry man but thats such an L take

you can clock millions of damage in a H40 just holding down smite the entire game

[teal copper]

Unless you just want to chernobyl a group of mushy grunts its range of use is hella low

I aint trying for damage im trying for a w

[wind spruce]

you'll win aswell

[kind jay]

hey guys i found a medkit!

[wind spruce]

smite is godmode in the hands of anyone competent

[teal copper]

On one hand, i can shred the batch of 10 crushers with my rending trauma and kill them quickly

On the other, i sit there for 5 minutes edging peril and being virtually useless as my team fights for their lives

[wind spruce]

why would you edge your peril

just sit at 100%

then recast scriers when warp unbound is almost up

literally infinite smite

[teal copper]

Im good

Ill stick with mind flayer and farm free soulblaze

[solid pond]

smyker spotted

call the commissar

[teal copper]

Call the ogryn that likes eating psykers because they taste sparkly

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/rP3vOw

@teal copper

just sayin'

smite dumb

[zealous wing]

i agree

dumb

[kind jay]

the emprah did not in fact, protect

[weak galleon]

does Sustained Fire work on Surge staff's charged attack?

just exploring alternatives to this.

err

electrokinetic staff.

[kind jay]

[marble crater]

That's news to me

[pale prairie]

Probably the veteran said it

[sinful tinsel]

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA was this a Vet?

[kind jay]

it was a zealot

[fiery stratus]

deal with these cross-room spread out gunners with your purg staff already

[kind jay]

it was during excise vault mid event, which i actually qp'd into so i literally just got there dude was just kinda running in the open getting shot at

[thorn cedar]

oh hey i was there

[young cliff]

psyker and vet have the capacity to deal with those, and other classes as well, but THEIR JOB?

[thorn cedar]

oh it was u

i was the other psyker

[kind jay]

i was wondering if that was you

[strong gulch]

[thorn cedar]

saw that block of chat and was like "hold on thats a very familiar interaction"

wow im only 973tlvl on psyker

[strong gulch]

Maybe one day I too will play.

[thorn cedar]

embarassing

@kind jay was a fun round, always a good time when you actually get to reach the second drop in Disposal Unit

[kind jay]

i have to admit i was trying to force push the boss off the ledge

but the ragers stopped me rofl

[thorn cedar]

ye i saw the cheeky u were tryina pull

[steel flame]

@patent mango so I went back through the histories. My bromentum bayonet bender lasted for several months and petered out shortly after the update that patched brutal momentum on the melee from transferring to hellbore stab. All of my limited footage of bayonet in use has none of the laggy animation that it does now (and by proxy the stace bonk) so an update between that patch a year ago and now fucked it all up. Trying to figure out which one

[wind spruce]

Bro isn't even 1k lmaolmaolmao

[wind spruce]

Psyker can stagger bosses?!

Since the fuck when

[kind jay]

you can force push captains, not monsters

[wind spruce]

Ahhh

[strong gulch]

Hitting an unshielded captain with a deimos H2 is always funny.

[royal totem]

I used to think captains were monstrosities

It's cuz of sire melk btw

[kind jay]

so if you lure them to a ledge and pop their shield, when they stand up theyre moveable

its just a dumb but funny thing you can do if people arent totally wailing on them

[nocturne dust]

Psyker can stagger bosses if you pray to RNGesus

🙏

[wind spruce]

Instructions unclear, got eaten by burgle

[wispy bay]

I remember you can heavy attack with staff vs BoN.

[patent mango]

thats odd but old bugs have come back befo

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/somehow-palpatine-returned-somehow-palpatine-poe-dameron-poe-gif-20849141

[patent mango]

also probably worth reporting if its not on forums already

[strong gulch]

KF proccing unaggro DH

[nocturne dust]

That's when the DH wakes up the thammer Zealot

[strong gulch]

I'm still giggling at remembering DS has a parry half way through a DH's HP being drained.

[nocturne dust]

Parry is kinda arse tho

[strong gulch]

Made the DH go away.

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't have protection like dclaw's does so I never use it

Good for single targets and only single targets tho... like the rest of dueling sword

[strong gulch]

lmao

[weak galleon]

is up to 20% rending useless for Surge +Assail build too?

[steel flame]

I'm convinced they fucked something up trying to curb animation canceling

[nocturne dust]

They did and I've been complaining about it ever since
-# but probably not what you're talking about

[steel flame]

It's the animations for special attacks desyncing on stuff like helbore bayonet and staff melee and others

[patent mango]

i dont have that issue myself i think

[nocturne dust]

Ah, that. It desyncs with Inferno's lmb/rmbs too

[thorn cedar]

yea its just bad

[patent mango]

actually maybe i just havent used the specials in an actual game

lmao

[thorn cedar]

only soulblaze and assail have bad armour damage mods, and soulblaze is only bad against carapace while assail is 'bad' against flak and carapace

in the case of assail it doesnt really matter what you do, the shard breaks on impact with carapace anyway so its not very efficient, and against flak it really doesnt need the help

[nocturne dust]

Carapace Assail build when

[strong gulch]

gotta go back in time

[cosmic cobalt]

if only pots work for non warp attack

[proper osprey]

tac axe will always be the better ds

[cosmic cobalt]

gunker stock go up

[nocturne dust]

I too snort copium

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263278871651024898/1422763147583950878/Bamboo_Torture.gif

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/bermusik-ali-kribo-starhits-pemusik-bambu-gif-19282696

If you say so, I shall torture the bamboo

[wind spruce]

what is the run speed on staffs

and does that breakpoint calculator that also had cleave values for weapons still exist (or is there another database of cleave values)

[ripe obsidian]

I will look.

[cosmic cobalt]

-0.20 i believe

[wraith sphinx]

They hated him because he spoke the truth

[wind spruce]

and is blitz just neutral

[wraith sphinx]

Dsword's weenie hut jr parry isn't nearly as fun as the stagger special

So now I just main taxe instead of dsword

[cosmic cobalt]

idk about this one

[wind spruce]

what fkn genius listed unlimited ammo here instead of the sprint speed lmao

[marble crater]

It's not wrong

[wind spruce]

you play on console

[marble crater]

Yes, I didn't even know we can few that window

[ripe obsidian]

If I am reading it correctly, which I might not be, if a member of the party backtracks 50 units from the farthest point forward, it will set players_backtracking to true. While this is true, there appears to be an 80% chance for a blockade_push_sandwich to spawn each time it checks. This spawns between 1 and 2 waves of enemies both ahead of you and behind you, with the waves from behind coming slightly faster.

The blockade waves appear to consist of a mix of bulwarks and ranged enemies.

Going by the file history, the new blockade is a lot fewer Bulwarks, but way more ranged enemies.

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/dc3388395e5cef46a39237ae3ab24e2771e91f6c/scripts/managers/pacing/horde_pacing/templates/mutator_horde_pacing_template.lua#L818

[kind jay]

i dont know if i should laugh or cry (i shit my pants for sure)

[royal totem]

Surrounded? Perfect. Dont have to aim.

[steel flame]

They work perfectly fine in the testing level and then immediately shit themselves in mission

[verbal thistle]

Okay, so it didnt change much outside the amount of enemies spawned

[marble crater]

Right at the start of the map too, unlucky

[ripe obsidian]

The horde makeup is different. Fewer bulwarks, more gunners, shotgunners, and shooters

[verbal thistle]

Noticed

[flint pawn]

I wanted to make sure since I can't log in to check right now, but in the context of Warp Ghost, is Venting Shriek considered Passive Quelling? I don't figure it is since it's pressing a button, but just to be sure.

[verbal thistle]

Well, thank you. Clearing up some information

[patent mango]

yeah its ping doing it

idk how much

[steel flame]

If tac axe had a reach longer than a thumb tac you might be right

[ripe obsidian]

Happy to help. I can provide more exact numbers if you want them

[steel flame]

If that was the case it should be effecting the rest of my animations too and it doesn't. There is something special fucked up with the special action

[proper osprey]

knife and ds have the same reach

[royal totem]

How??? One is a sword and one is my butter knife

[steel flame]

@patent mango I've had my animations completely completely swapped with the staff, I will be sweeping when I'm stabbing and vice versa and sometimes just decide to play the same animation for both attacks, never ever ran into that with regular attack animations, there is something more than ping. I think they tried to add a special action input buffer and fucked it up

[royal totem]

Btw, is there a hotfix tmrrw?

[ripe obsidian]

...does the wave from behind happen properly?

[zealous wing]

passive quelling is this and only this

[ripe obsidian]

They changed a variable name in one place but maybe not the other.

[royal totem]

2 more days hexis

[zealous wing]

til the drip drop

[steel flame]

Slop drop more like

[zealous wing]

could be slop

but itll be colourful slop

[flint pawn]

Okay thank you very much

[royal totem]

2 more till im home

[flint pawn]

I have a stamina addiction so wanted to make sure I wasn't about to gut myself

[patent mango]

😨

[zealous wing]

hehehe

[ripe obsidian]

In one place it's

composition = HordeCompositions.havoc_coordinated_blockade_behind,

But in the actual horde composition it's

havoc_cultist_coordinated_blockade_behind = {

And

havoc_renegade_coordinated_blockade_behind = {

@verbal thistle

[patent mango]

fatshark goofed it up....

[zealous wing]

at least this rotation had some tasty morsels

[royal totem]

Im addicted to fast weapons

[steel flame]

Aren't you excited for more arby armor? And by new armor I mean the same coat but red this time. It's the only arby cosmetic they have added to the files

[zealous wing]

i dont own arby

so no

i couldnt care less

[steel flame]

It's almost certainly gonna be a recolor

[static vessel]

Anyone here have a really good gun zealot build

[zealous wing]

it usually is

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah pick psyker

or vet

[steel flame]

Probably not, but we have gun psyker builds

[static vessel]

FUCK

[patent mango]

gun zealot? that cant be real...

[static vessel]

I MEANT PSYKER

AUUGH

gimme pls...

[royal totem]

I just want a funny vet build

[steel flame]

Once upon a time id give you my melee only helbore build.....but that was too cool for fat shark so they ruined it with jank

[steel flame]

Rip bromentum bayonet

[cosmic cobalt]

i thought it been dead in a ditch for a while

[royal totem]

Why have the hellbore at all?

[steel flame]

Because you are bayonet charging like a true Krieger you heathen

[royal totem]

Ah

[young cliff]

Flash speed bayonet was fun

[steel flame]

Truly the purest form of warfare

And to top it off it was also a keystoneless build

[young cliff]

MorbidlyobeseShrimp was not ready for such glory

it, however, gave us good and cool helbore, so we didnt riot on them

but the grudge remains

[steel flame]

I miss infinite cleave bayonet

🫡

[static vessel]

I nearly had all the weapons leveled up

nearly

then fatshark decides to drop another fuckin weapon

goddamn you.

[steel flame]

Well since we are time traveling, remember when psykers best melee horde clear was antax combat axe push attack?

[royal totem]

I dont have all weps leveled

Too much work

[steel flame]

just throw money at your problems then

buy 30 whites, upgrade them all once and toss them in hadrons paper shredder

[royal totem]

All the things i use are leveled

[spark flume]

What are the weapons with dumps stats that want to be lower than 60% on Psyker? I think the Force Greatsword is one and I think flame staff. Are there others?

[austere warren]

Things like mobility and being an often common dump stat is because the effectiveness capped out by 60% is enough to cap the limit of dodge count and sprint speeds iirc. For defenses, it's your block and push cost.

[steel flame]

I have to use sub 40 warp resist staves for alot of my builds

[wind spruce]

High collateral has some negatives on recon. Staggers gunners causing you to miss weakspot.

[austere warren]

Exceptions to this depend heavily on how ranged weapons work. In the case of warp resistance, I don't know the exact numbers at all but generally speaking it's a safe bet for consistent peril generation in relation to talent choices in the case of psyker.

[steel flame]

And super low warp res fgs of course

[steel flame]

Tfw fatshark has no idea what collateral means so they make it a stagger stat

[thorn cedar]

i believe this to be the pure essence of my build now

with one extra point left over to spend as desired

i accidentally ran a auric mael and two havocs with an unspent talent point that was meant for warp ghost

and i did not even notice

so i think that kinda cinches it for me that yes, it is a good talent, but i really am not in need of it

now the question is whether warp expenditure or one with the warp would generate more effective toughness for me

god psyker is strong now LOL

[static vessel]

Anyeone can spare a gun psyker build..

[thorn cedar]

above u

[wispy bay]

Depending on the gun you want to use, there are a few variations.

[static vessel]

wha gun r u using w that build

[thorn cedar]

laspee 2

[fathom adder]

Flakiac and Dumperado?

[thorn cedar]

unyield maniac

in ... fernerado

?

[fathom adder]

Dumdum Desperado

[icy breach]

You can always come with me; I'll get You one

[royal totem]

The thing thatll stop my friends from ever having true survivor...is meee

[icy breach]

use warp flurry instead of surge

[static vessel]

anyone got a build for infantry lasgun or infantry autogun

[thorn cedar]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00d9e40-f892-42c9-af88-4cf356ab3df6/woosh-woo-zoom-gunker-v10

[left hare]

for h40 is voidblast or inferno better

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno, typically

[royal totem]

I wish this game has more fun cosmetics

[ripe obsidian]

I accidentally shrieked a Daemonhost. D:

[royal totem]

Oh no 🙁

Just whack it with thammer

[swift stag]

like what? Ogryn has the best cosmetics

[kind jay]

bring back shirtless

[restive slate]

I want my Misters of Battle

[swift stag]

i loaded in back to the only to be behinbd a buck naked ogryn until load times started working

[restive slate]

Is it bad that I want some cosmetics to be a little more Slaaneshi?

[swift stag]

Stephoni cosmetics

[rancid jasper]

It is heresy

[restive slate]

From a certain point of view~

[restive slate]

Sephoni looks weird with undies in that tube, I rather her be a dessicated torso with plugs

[rancid jasper]

https://tenor.com/bl1U3.gif

[tepid python]

99 peril

[patent jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-cat-meme-silly-cat-gif-4266327784702766845

Rigby my beloved

[deft stump]

Pink Purple?

[tawny pine]

I'm a new player. I usually play on level 3 difficulty. Can you recommend an easy-to-play build?

[deft stump]

Throw shards of hate/Assail?

I'll need to rebuild my guide.

[deft stump]

Try something like that. Pick an armour dealing melee or so.

[tawny pine]

thank you. ill try

[deft stump]

I suggest bistol with puncture for it and learn to bleed switch just to deal bonus damage, but in malice/heresy, unneeded since just throw shards works to kill everything but armoured.

RMB if target is a distance away. Vent is there is you kark up.

You can choose to use the other vent subnode if you don't wanna eat into another psyker's damage.

[ripe obsidian]

I have many a build in the pins, but none particularly oriented toward pre-30. Karien's build should get you through those rough early levels

I see so many Psykers running PotS Inferno in H40. I guess to try to counter Crushers in Rotten Armor?

But that is such a wasted point

[royal totem]

Pots is the rending node?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah

[royal totem]

Ah

[deft stump]

It still works in Auric. Lul. I usually drop OwtW for Anticipation because I am just mentally dodge spam even with EE lul.

[royal totem]

I like saying unhinged things

Like "im dropping OwtW for MiM"

[deft stump]

You have just a dream anyway.

[royal totem]

i dont

[ripe obsidian]

ahhhhhhhhhhhh someone has PotS on Voidblast

pls

no

[strong gulch]

Clearly it's meta Six. Get the net!

https://tenor.com/view/waynes-world-waynesworld-waynes-world-movie-waynesworldmovie-mike-myers-gif-16872150122722991201

I need to go back to VB school.

[royal totem]

Whys that so bad?

[ripe obsidian]

ADMs

Voidblast RMB (center blast):
Unarmored - 100%
Flak - 100%
Unyielding - 100%
Maniac - 100%
Carapace - 100%
Infested - 75%
Void Shield - 75%

Voidblast RMB (outer blast):
Unarmored - 100%
Flak - 75%
Unyielding - 100%
Maniac - 100%
Carapace - 25%
Infested - 75%
Void Shield - 75%

[royal totem]

Why dafaq does it have 75 against infested

But nope

I get why bad

[ripe obsidian]

Over 100% rending/brittleness gives damage at a 1/4 rate. So a maximum bonus of 5% to carapace at 100% peril

ahhhhhhh

[royal totem]

Guess they want the extra rending for infested /sarcasm

[ripe obsidian]

Rending doesn't even affect infested

D:

[royal totem]

Hence the sarcasm

Btw rotten armor changes crushers to infested? Or am i idiot

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, it's just misleading wording

[ripe obsidian]

Anyone who picks PotS needs to go back to Psyker school. >:(

[royal totem]

..............ok i idiot then. I apologize for my dumbness

[ripe obsidian]

nah, is bad wording on Fatshark's part

[strong gulch]

I'm too sleepy to come up with something clever to say.

[ripe obsidian]

Not a psyker thing, but I am fairly pleased with my Zealot outfit

[royal totem]

Wait so what does it change???

[ripe obsidian]

• Adds various stages of ranged damage reduction:
• At >=90% hp, unit recieves 75% ranged damage reduction. Between 75% and 90%, the unit recieves 50% ranged DR. Between 50% and 75% the unit recieves 25% ranged DR. Between 0% and 25% the unit recieves 25% extra damage from ranged
• 0.85x movespeed modifier
• Scab only
• Changes the trickle horde composition to be
• 1 to 4 crusher
• 1 to 4 mauler
• 1 to 4 berserker
• Adds a green cloud around the unit, and changes their armour appearance a bit
• Scab berserkers, maulers and crushers spawn with the effect 100% of the time, and no other unit will have it

[royal totem]

Im very pleased with my zealot outfit as well!

[obtuse tundra]

Is disrupt destiny bad/hard to utilise?

[white sky]

Perish the thought.

[royal totem]

What dafaq. I misunderstood it

[royal totem]

Nope

Though certain builds benefit more from it

[ripe obsidian]

Good and easy to use, depending on the weapon

[obtuse tundra]

Im trying a scriers gaze tank/crit melee build and figured warp charges for damage would probably be the best keystone. In said build is there much to say for disrupt d?

w/warp greatsword and flame staff

[ripe obsidian]

DD is fantastic for Force Greatsword. Is mediocre for flame stick. I am not sure I would match the two together, as they fill somewhat similar roles.

[obtuse tundra]

Might give it a crack then. Would you switch flame for void blast?

[royal totem]

Why a melee build with flame staff? Bit strange. No?

[ripe obsidian]

What difficulty are you playing?

[obtuse tundra]

Yeah you right

Just tested with heresy high intense, normally play damnation/auric with safer builds though

been on a hiatus

[ripe obsidian]

Then I would recommend EK or Voidstrike for a SG+Greatsword build.

Or using a gun instead of a staff

[obtuse tundra]

What guns are the go to nowadays

[kindred thicket]

Is chain axe any good on psyker?

[ripe obsidian]

Recon lasgun is still good. People are liking the heavy las pistol, but it's not my cup of tea

Not sure how the bolt pistol does with all the HP increases

[royal totem]

Revolver!

[ripe obsidian]

honestly, no idea. Maybe? It did get buffed

[kindred thicket]

Any recommendations what to use with it I most play zealot so I don't know what to use?

[ripe obsidian]

Force Greatsword is my favorite Psyker melee. Dueling sword and knife are both solid. Force swords are good, but Illisi is sort of a weaker greatsword. Some people swear by the tactical axe

[kindred thicket]

Isn't dueling sword the best weapon in the game or did something change that?

[royal totem]

I started the FGS hater club

[royal totem]

Kinda nerfed. "Kinda"

[ripe obsidian]

It's good, but not quite as absurdly OP anymore.

[royal totem]

Its no longer the default for every class

[kindred thicket]

I wouldn't know I never used it

[royal totem]

Its a statement. Last season every build by default used DS

[kindred thicket]

I do remember seeing it alot when I played awhile ago but never used it just seemed less interesting compared to other options

[royal totem]

I dont care about my melee being interesting when using inferno staff or ek staff

Im on staff 90% anyways

[pale prairie]

Very smart

[royal totem]

If ds lets me kill something stupid faster, i can go back to burning things faster

[kindred thicket]

I hope they make the lightning staff a little bit better

[pale prairie]

Yeah hoping they buff EK and Voidstrike when they start reworking weapons. Maybe tweaking for rending trauma

[plucky flax]

Make rending built in for trauma.

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmm I like that….scared it might make it the best fucking staff with flame build though

Would mean some funny soulblaze stealing

[plucky flax]

Burga still has blaze away

[royal totem]

Make EK lightning do moreee

[plucky flax]

It should do a bit more damage and chain to +2 targets with them taking 50% damage.

[pale prairie]

Yeaaaa but rending base WITH soulblaze build?

[plucky flax]

So 1 additional target and more damage to secondary targets.

When skill tree rework came out smite subtalents worked with surge.

The +1 chain was quite nice.

[ripe obsidian]

I have had Bad Games tonight. 6 losses, 1 win

[royal totem]

Oof 🙁

[wispy bay]

Here I thought you are a god gamer

(Im having a hard time helping people in H30s...

[ripe obsidian]

I try. D:

and Steam is down. RIP.

[wispy bay]

6, carry me H40.

[ripe obsidian]

lemme get to H40 first

Sitting at 35 right now

[wispy bay]

Playing with me makes you better, since it becomes a 3/4 game.

[royal totem]

Carry meeeee. Im jking

[ripe obsidian]

once I get locked in at H40 again, I'll be fine with helping people climb

I just need to get stonk again

[tawny pine]

I'm level 30 and my items are 500. But I don't have all the weapons. I'll check out your builds, thanks.

[ripe obsidian]

oooohhhhhh, I misread level 3 difficulty as a level 3 character

[solid pond]

[graceful arch]

📠

[flat nexus]

the unending mission

hmm new bug

[summer prairie]

sometimes it takes a while for the cultists to spawn

but if you already killed a bunch and it's not ending, maybe

[flat nexus]

we killed the canister

[summer prairie]

before taking down the force fields?

[flat nexus]

its bug

since i reconnected

but even before i reconnected we were stuck

with no forcefield and all obj dead

[quartz barn]

This also happens if you sequence break this section by killing all cultists from an inner wall before you can reach them

Or used to atleast, not really down to check tbh

Basically use the fgs special

[ripe obsidian]

@flat nexus PotS on inferno makes me sad. D:

[flat nexus]

pots?

[ripe obsidian]

penetration of the soul

I am spying on your build in the havoc queue

[flat nexus]

oh

fair

donno it feels helpful

technically i can take qualitude

trying it out for now

[ripe obsidian]

It only helps with Crushers, and only slightly

Relevant ADMs

Inferno LMB and RMB:
Unarmored - 200%
Flak - 175%
Unyielding - 200%
Maniac - 250%
Carapace - 25%
Infested - 150%
Void Shield - 100%

Soulblaze:
Unarmored - 150%
Flak - 150%
Unyielding - 150%
Maniac - 100%
Carapace - 10%
Infested - 125%
Void Shield - 100%

tbh PotS makes me sad in general

[flat nexus]

if i run a min max comp we have 40% rending from ogryn and 20% from flamer, now i only need near max peril and 1 uncanny stack

[ripe obsidian]

That is fair

[flat nexus]

also

[flat nexus]

where did you find these numbers, would like to check for bleed/ burn

👀

[ripe obsidian]

one moment

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/473a8e97ee69ae3603a3333402b72255f7a036ff/scripts/settings/damage/damage_profiles/buff_damage_profile_templates.lua#L9

here you go

That's the page for dots

[flat nexus]

thanks :D

[ripe obsidian]

No problem

[radiant frigate]

soulblaze does just have freakishly high ADMs across the board except for carapace

[ripe obsidian]

Bask in the OP blue fire

[radiant frigate]

[ripe obsidian]

Very good

[wraith sphinx]

Big metal sword,
Powerful blue fire of doom,
Smash and burn 'em

[summer prairie]

"Fixed an issue where Psyker’s Soulblaze from Perilous Combustion and Venting Shriek could be applied to un-aggroed Daemonhosts, waking them up." big for shriek especially

[marble crater]

Oh thank god

[summer prairie]

She doesn't care https://streamable.com/fhdpeo

[marble crater]

I can finally shriek and kill next to DH again

[nocturne dust]

but what if I want to accidentally wake the daemonhost and then sick it on the nearest ogryn by alt-f4ing

[weary crane]

Fixed an issue where Psyker’s Soulblaze from Perilous Combustion and Venting Shriek could be applied to un-aggroed Daemonhosts, waking them up.

[long saddle]

I thought that was intended, made me so wary to shriek around em

[summer prairie]

It was fine until your shriek woke them up through a floor or walls

[long saddle]

yes that was why I was careful lol

[summer prairie]

Nothing undocumented in the patch/scripts except for some havoc blockade fix

Transfer peril and Purloin Providence buff "Fixed an issue where Force Staves would fail to shoot the projectile that triggered the Perils of the Warp state.".

[wind spruce]

this has been an issue for years

had to shriek before you shot that last void ball

[fading galleon]

@summer prairie can I bother you to make a quick clip of plasma gunner new vfx/sfx with your creature spawner mod?

[summer prairie]

As expected, voidstrike with surge doesn't shoot the second projectile if you fire at 100% and trigger explosion

sec

https://streamable.com/jk5tx8

[fading galleon]

ty ty

[summer prairie]

A bit goofy how you don't need effective dodges and the shot goes to narnia https://streamable.com/evdayn

[marble crater]

Surely this will be the last time we need to learn how to dodge plasma gunners, right?

[white valley]

The bright flash before firing looks great

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/morning-curtains-bright-day-cant-gif-5261271

[marble crater]

It does, hope I can find a lights out mission later today

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[nocturne dust]

It's a smidge ridiculous in size

[white valley]

Hey I'd rather it be too bright than too subtle

[dusk timber]

Not bright enough

[wraith sphinx]

we fucking love ridiculous in 40k

[white valley]

Ofc we do

It's 40k

[nocturne dust]

We is a strong word

[white valley]

It should be funny

Orks are inspired by football hooligans

[wraith sphinx]

We are just a hivemind trying to survive this individualist wasteland

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/go-on-gollum-my-precious-gif-10877364535161632621

[wraith sphinx]

putting my serious hat on for a moment, I do like it, the extra flair and visual noise is genuinely going to be helpful in hectic low visibility situations in which the plasma gunners will be often encountered in

[dusk timber]

Bolters and chain weapons are peak examples

[zealous wing]

glad they took the shit serously tbh

[white valley]

According to the tabletop, a chainsword weighs 6 kg, this would make it a complete garbage unusable weapon

[zealous wing]

thats... really fucking light, the hell?

[white valley]

No

That is monstrously heavy for a one-handed sword

[zealous wing]

well yeah but also its a fucking chainsaw

[marble crater]

Still heavy for what you use it for

[zealous wing]

im more worried about the chaxe tbh

at least the chainsword has a possibility of being somewhat balanced

[white valley]

A historical zweihander weighs about 3-4kg and that's the largest two-handed sword lol

[zealous wing]

a chaxe seems like a fuckin nightmare

[glacial vapor]

Your first mistake was believing any number uttered by GW

[zealous wing]

it was a relatively thin piece of iron/steel though, for its blade, rather than a huge chunk of moving parts

and its 40k, where hadron says 60% efficiency is well above requirements, so i dont think they care about stuff being easily used

[white valley]

True

[zealous wing]

50,000 soldiers

[left crater]

Are the devs just... not aware of the psyker bug going on?

[white valley]

When two-handed chaxe in Darktide

[white valley]

What bug? Charged strike?

[zealous wing]

for a chainsaw, 6kg is about the average

[left crater]

You know that one perk that prevents going down if you overload?

[zealous wing]

ah theres two for CW

psyker has a few bugs

its sad though, all they need to do is add an exception that they forgot to into the code for detecting no overload actually occurring (scriers, shriek, other quelling talents)

[left crater]

It's like it's punishing g us for using our abilities to protect ourselves, by giving us the damage with no explosion

[white valley]

Yes, it's a meme

[zealous wing]

a meme but actually functional now, (well, in writing, ignoring the vital bug), so once they fix it, it will actually be a less worse node for someone to pick if they wanna use it

it used to just be a crutch, now its a crutch with a knife on the end, much more fun

[left crater]

Unfortunately the knife is pointing at me

[white valley]

Eh, it'll still be a meme

You can always take bubble instead to blow up more instead of scrier or shriek

[gray juniper]

New hot fix that was basically made to address plasma gunners lol

Also very useful “Fixed an issue where Psyker’s Soulblaze from Perilous Combustion and Venting Shriek could be applied to un-aggroed Daemonhosts, waking them up.”

[thorn cedar]

Now what will I blame

[gray juniper]

I’m still too traumatized to ever point a vent within 90 degrees of a host

[gray juniper]

“He ducked away from my brain burst at the last moment and it kicked on the wrong target

Real stuff tho I noticed you can be a free hit on the host before it wakes up

Accidentally put a trauma blast under it to hit a shooter right beside. She starts floating and I get out of there

[zealous wing]

no longer shall we fear the dark

lights out maps will be lit ablaze

[static sonnet]

Doesn't shriek stagger still count as a hit? Like a direct shriek should still anger it right?

[zealous wing]

well maybe but, most people dont intentionally shriek AT her

usually she's behind a wall, a few rooms over, or theres an unlucky chain of enemies leading to her, etc

a few times, i havent even gotten to hear her sound cues before her bar popped up

[static sonnet]

But I wanna shriek at her

[zealous wing]

generally if you scream at someone they wake up

so

[static sonnet]

Uright

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message

[static sonnet]

Hellllll yeah

[gray juniper]

I’ve heard a trapper go off from flayer then a moment later it’s all “shkreeeeee!” Great I’m in dodge city now

[quartz barn]

Just constantly vault over something and confuse the dh

[deft stump]

They just asked for an easy to play build. The one I did is literally for newer psykers. Lul.

[plucky flax]

Hi it's me new psyker.

[stable bone]

I played with this guy the other day

[wraith sphinx]

decide to host havoc w a friend
first rando to join is Harken with stim profile frame

😨

[zealous wing]

does that mean something specific?

[wraith sphinx]

character named harken with dedicated adept title and stim profile frame is darktide's equivalent to gibus pubbies

[marble crater]

and what does that mean?

[wraith sphinx]

w hat am I, a historian?

[dusk timber]

Yes

[marble crater]

Maybe

[zealous wing]

¨pubbies i think i understand, but what is a gibus

if pubbies refers to public randoms, then i understand, if it doesnt, then i dont

[dusk timber]

Tf2 hat cosmetic frequently associated with new players

[zealous wing]

i never used the stim frame, does that mean i was never new?

i did use the dedicated adept tag, though, but not for very long

saw the map tour of duty titles and liked a couple of them more

[wraith sphinx]

yeah it's the ghastly gibus cosmetics

@radiant frigate another one

[zealous wing]

whats the drip

[zealous wing]

not bad

not bad at all

[wraith sphinx]

thanks

[zealous wing]

only comments ive gotten on my outfit was a banter convo :(

it is just black tho so its not very fancy

oh also, all three playable characters have peg legs

:D

i doubt i'll play vet much, but zealot and ogryn now have a place in the roster

one things for sure tho i am never making a 2nd of each the level up process was such a slog

[weary crane]

guess where I am challenge

[zealous wing]

its amazing how much some basic drip can make a class tolerable

[zealous wing]

thrown off the ledge in dark communion by a burster or a barrel

at the very beginning area, before the stairs

[weary crane]

[zealous wing]

my money is on a barrel, i think theres a barrel there that'd aim you to that spot

also no corruption damage

though i suppose it could have also been a flamer explosion, but if youre a staffker (as you are) you likely wouldnt be close enough for that to happen

[weary crane]

I think it was a mutie I can't remember

[deft stump]

When you play psyker because coat.

[zealous wing]

i play ogryn because helmet

and now also pegleg

click thunk click thunk click thunk

tho its also very fun to beat up crushers, and actually feel like a bully >:D

i wish the zealot havoc armour didnt look so weird

[dusk timber]

What is it

[zealous wing]

it has weird clipping with the mask he's wearing, so currently he's the outlier

[pure plinth]

alyx: oh boy i wonder what i must waste all of my ammo on

the audacious combine elite:

[zealous wing]

this mask does it with a lot of stuff

:D

but at the same time, i do like the idea of all my characters having a "uniform" for the serious build, that im most familiar/comfortable with, for serious mode

the most serious of serious

[quartz barn]

Why karien

[dusk timber]

Hi karien

[zealous wing]

karien probably thinks uniforms a bad idea, and would prefer badass drip

but, what if i could find a way to do both

OH

also

driptide pulled some new stuff

this specifically is what im going to refer to

gimme a sec

[quartz barn]

But i already have that

Just 2 years ago

[dusk timber]

Big if true

[zealous wing]

i hope

[quartz barn]

Pants so saggy he needs 3 belts

[zealous wing]

i do like my rebreathers tho

so itll be a rough choice

worst case i put the hat on my savant

[quartz barn]

Ngl the og variant with red scarf is better

[zealous wing]

imo, its not

i stared at it for a month and a half

the red would match nothing i own

[quartz barn]

This kinda falls into the overdesign trap

But ye agree the new one fits more because its darker / metallic looking

[zealous wing]

theres also a white veil one

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/bone-gif-9583965047034155743

[zealous wing]

the most depressing is, the fucking twitch pants are the only vet pegleg rn i could access

so i cant really make him uniform yet

this is the current lineup, if i do a uniform thats not horrendous to look at, with vet as obvious outlier but i dont play him anyway

all very black tho

well again except vet

vet havoc torso is pretty shit

[deft stump]

You use the penance one, duh.

[zealous wing]

its the same issue for me

[deft stump]

Only the pants and helm is cool.

But then neckline reeeeeeeeeeee

[zealous wing]

anything with these pants is not gonna work well, not even the top they came with looks good, or even okay.

the twitch torso is fucking atrocious

[deft stump]

It would be okay, if it weren't THAT colour.

[zealous wing]

ive seen another version of it

its still shit

wait a second

[radiant frigate]

hell yeah

[zealous wing]

they extended it

honestly, good move

give people a chance to try it with the new fix

that means that nemui can also run it with us if they have event to do still, when they get back in 2 days

[marble crater]

Extended event, let's go

[deft stump]

They buffed them again though. So might be pain once more?

[marble crater]

Karien, more lights out, are you happy?

[zealous wing]

BUT

they fucking fixed the cue

let me pull up meatgrinder

[deft stump]

Doesn't matter if there's 15 of them.

[zealous wing]

i dunno

[deft stump]

Also, 300+ ping.

[zealous wing]

you can just walk

like

one moment

[deft stump]

And die to 5 of them hitting me at once. I hate them for a reason.

[zealous wing]

you can just spam dodge, even if youre out, until youre in cover, and the sound lead up is nice and long

[deft stump]

You can still randomly be hit dodging at that ping.

Even with snipers, the beam can be more than half the screen away and I'm still hit.

[quartz barn]

The woes of being dummy thicc

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/thicc-king-andre-braugher-raymond-holt-brooklyn-nine-nine-thick-gif-16913349

[wind spruce]

oh yay they extended the shit event thats drying out the already small pool of players queueing for mael in apac south

[jovial juniper]

"Outgunned"
Yeah, that's what those plasma gunners are when I'm around

[marble crater]

"Gg"
"gg"
"gg"
"Worst fucking game in history"

Can't make this up

[wind spruce]

were they right tho

[marble crater]

No

Maybe the vet didn't like that all 3 psykers had the drip coat on

He looked like a bum next to us

[proper osprey]

Just played with a psyker called tsschzmedaddy he was good

I tried to play oggy

With healing rotten armor

Was ass

I kept getting disabled because of the pretty colors and effects on mah screen

And I hate oggy

How ever

Debuff stick helped a ton

[zealous wing]

meanwhile im over here learning how to duel crushers using the shield special to negate their attacks for no stamina cost

must be ogryn day

[proper osprey]

Rotten armor was fun as an event

[pale prairie]

For real? Why would you spend the time to type that?

[proper osprey]

Idk about havoc

[pale prairie]

Billy club?

[marble crater]

Because vet

[pale prairie]

Man even with a class buff find something to complain about

[proper osprey]

It allowed psyker to melt the rotten armor

[pale prairie]

Yeah fart armor and Billy club are frustrating

In havoc particularly

[proper osprey]

Debuff oggy, 2 psykers and a zealot is what i want on my team

[pale prairie]

I’ve defaulted to branx pickaxe with not the attack speed talents just to fucking kill them faster

[pale prairie]

Yeah that makes it doable

Rending trauma on a psyker would be

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[proper osprey]

I can’t even dueling sword them fast enough on zealot

[pale prairie]

Damn

Truly nerfed

[wind spruce]

ok but seriously shred + riposte on FGS is actually just BiS

[pale prairie]

Sorry what’s BiS?

[wind spruce]

best in slot

[proper osprey]

They literally heal faster than Arby tac axe

[narrow herald]

Wait what if the answer to rotten armor was right in front of us the whole time?

[proper osprey]

Melee psyker dueling sword

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[pale prairie]

You must love that

[white valley]

I thought Riposte + Unstable Power was go-to

[pale prairie]

Imagine tacaxe not being the answer

[narrow herald]

Dueling Sword got nerfed for it to be in the meta anyways smh my head 😞

[proper osprey]

I was coping so HARD

It was stupid

[pale prairie]

Feels like it was a nerf for OTHER classes using it

[proper osprey]

Dude if I’m struggling on Arby there is an issue

[pale prairie]

I dunno

[pale prairie]

Some people love crits more than strength

[wind spruce]

shred is picked more than riposte

[proper osprey]

My only gripe was the purples with rotten armor and how I couldn’t dps them fast enough then I’d die

[wind spruce]

but im just frothing over crit maxxing rn

[proper osprey]

There was eventually a death ball of immortality

[white valley]

Riposte has better uptime in my mind

[wind spruce]

its debatable

but riposte has better uptime (thank you Uptime mod) than many (me included) predicted it to have

[white valley]

Its 6s and grants immediate 20%

[wind spruce]

dw i know all about it

[white valley]

Shred requires 5 stacks and if you whiff you lose all stacks

[patent mango]

the frick is warp rift

[wind spruce]

been arguing for riposte for literal years

[pale prairie]

Somebody in here posted a havoc modifier picture of pox gas, infernal armor, and stims which should mean there are some enemies with 100% DR

[white valley]

Portal, daemons pour out of it

[wind spruce]

shred, though, is predictable and controllable

riposte is not

[zealous wing]

like its still a challenge as the number of crushers increases, but its so fun bullying them. revenge for all the times they got me as a psyker >:)

[white valley]

Isn't the DR multiplicative?

[mental rock]

Smyker on team, no more riposte

[white valley]

See the issue is you have a smyker

Not that you have riposte

[wind spruce]

the better the team the worst riposte gets in general

between gold toughness staggers, rumblers, inferno staggers

[mental rock]

Can't really control whether you have a smyker on your team in pubs, unless you just leave whenever there is one

[summer prairie]

unless you miss like every fourth swing, shred should clearly be better and definitely more reliable crit for e.g. EE

[zealous wing]

https://tenor.com/view/stella-kidd-there-is-another-option-chicago-fire-one-chicago-miranda-rae-mayo-gif-8026319788658351725

[wind spruce]

but the argument is irrelevant