psyker-class

[wet python]

Wth this channel is just a bunch of shoppers

[patent mango]

so anyways i was out buying bread

[pale prairie]

Ogryn is smartest

[steel flame]

God you just assume gazing into the warp and going insane is a psykers only passtime? Insensitive much?

[marble crater]

We already talked enough about builds and talents today

[pale prairie]

Yeah we have achieved peak

[patent mango]

yeah we kinda peaked its over

[white sky]

What exactly is strength?

[pale prairie]

We finished our exams early cause we are the brainy rejects

[wet python]

No no my beloved knows much of past times, and crocheting is one of their favorites

[pale prairie]

Yeah using psyker skin

[patent mango]

str is cleave damage and stagger

[pale prairie]

It’s a mix of cleave damage and impact

[patent mango]

so its really good

[wet python]

No, ogryn as it is tougher

Can you not check the inspect tab?

[steel flame]

Gotta responsibly recycle those thousands of psyker bodies somehow

[strong gulch]

Strength is also the updated name to power.

[patent mango]

the renames are awful

[white sky]

@pale prairie ty both. Was wondering why the value on blessings for it always felt low.

[steel flame]

I will never relinquish trauma staff

[pale prairie]

Corpse on a throne knows how to reduce psyker population, reuse chaos warp, and recycle souls to feed himself

[white sky]

Why did they go and change all the names again

[patent mango]

yea even 20% str is good

probably GW but no confirmation

[strong gulch]

for "clarity"

[pale prairie]

Cause it’s so fucking good

[patent mango]

though for str that cant be gw probably

so its just fatshark being weird

[ornate hamlet]

VIGILANT AUTOGUN

[steel flame]

Yes yes void strike and void blast are soooo much harder to confuse than void strike and trauma

[white sky]

Well like Unstable Power is 5%, the one for the Arb Shotgun is like 6.5% so it always seemed comparatively low to other things

[patent mango]

ah that unstable power desc is misleading

its 20% at most 5% per stack

[white sky]

Thanks Fatshark

Do they like

[strong gulch]

The gun renames or random mk changes.

Just why

[white sky]

Google translate Swedish to english

[patent mango]

lmao

i think they just dont know how to make good descs

[ornate hamlet]

Think? Sometimes

[pale prairie]

This talent right here is half the reason inferno is so good. Low charge RMB can stagger so that you can stack soulblaze and be safer

[white sky]

I dont understand how they can relentlessly have the poorest possible wording in the world

[strong gulch]

I'm surprised the name "Wrack and Ruin" hasn't been recycled yet.

[ornate hamlet]

They gravitate between The Great Cookening and The Mingiest Raw

[patent mango]

look i dont even try to understand fatshark anymore

[marble crater]

The person who knows how to change descriptions quit

[patent mango]

they're just anomalous

[wet python]

The best band names

[white sky]

Nah ik Blaze Away is good, the way Unstable Power is Worded made it sound like it stacked up to 5 percent 1 percent at a time lmfao

[ornate hamlet]

"Minging" is a beautiful word

[pale prairie]

Yeah it’s been that way for a while

[ornate hamlet]

It was introduced to me by what I assume is British culture

[patent mango]

im checking

[ornate hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlZzftmtGJY

[patent mango]

thankfully they're still working on it

last update to the github page of it was 3d ago with psyker stuff

https://github.com/xsSplater/Darktide_Enhanced_Descriptions_BETA

[strong gulch]

I was just looking for it. lmao

[patent mango]

hmmm

imma go test the mod actually

[white sky]

Apparently death spitter stacks too

And doesnt say anything about it

Alright, thanks lmfao

[patent mango]

yeah dont trust fatshark descs

[pale prairie]

Where the fuck is my voidstrike

[ornate hamlet]

Also one of the comments called this the evil twin of the German Cola kid

[white sky]

It doesnt even mention stacking why would I ever think it does lmfao

[ornate hamlet]

I hadn't heard of it before

[marble crater]

Voidstrike is the same name still

[ornate hamlet]

I have now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDWlhQjGjoc

Behold, German culture

[patent mango]

lmao its harder then yea

[pale prairie]

Oh I thought this was a meme about staves being dead

[white sky]

I hate this company

[marble crater]

No, just the names

[patent mango]

gonna test the mod and see if my game explodes

[white sky]

Im going back to Death Spitter on my VIII, Unstable Power makes a lot more sense to me now as a blessing choice.

[patent mango]

yeah i use unstable on force gs

[strong gulch]

You'd be a great candidate to stress test it.

[patent mango]

i doubt it will have any problems but idk

[white sky]

Rn im on Wrath UP and it feels good

[patent mango]

wrath is also nice yea

with that combo both blessings give cleave

[white sky]

Aye, which seems to feed the charges a lil faster

[pale prairie]

Mmmmmm shred

[patent mango]

im riposte unstable power gaming

[white sky]

Ik riposte is good but I like the more direct control over wrath tbh

[pale prairie]

Crit is awesome though

[patent mango]

wrath is nice but i already get warp split and UP for cleave so i dont think i need it tooo much

and warp ghost helps with those 2

[thorn cedar]

Wrath is so much more cleave tho

[white sky]

Tbh I'll probably like it more when my tree is done

Im like, level 14 psyker rn

[thorn cedar]

Almost an order of magnitude more.

[patent mango]

yeah but if i really need that much cleave i always have warp slash with infinite

[zealous wing]

wrath is inconsistent cleave, which i dont like

[thorn cedar]

UP just had other benefits yeah

[white sky]

Psyker as a class is better at 30

Just in general

[patent mango]

wrath is more consistent than the other 2

[pale prairie]

The powers of crit

14800 single hit

[zealous wing]

unstable power is very consistent, and the indicator is by default at your crosshair

for wrath its all the way at the bottom, and if you miss, it resets

[patent mango]

bcob and sg quelling goof up my consistency with peril stuff

its still really good though

[thorn cedar]

All you gotta do is land hits for Wrath, it's really not a big ask.

[white sky]

Yeah, but to that I say "don't miss"

https://tenor.com/view/giant-dad-dark-souls-swag-snoop-dogg-drop-it-like-its-hot-gif-5316809

I wanted the other one but this works too

[thorn cedar]

UP with WS comes to 140% cleave. Wrath is 200% by itself and with WS would be 300% instead.

[zealous wing]

i enjoy deflector more than a slight increase to a weapon thats already cleaving like crazy

block a few bullets, better block efficiency, just more useful to me

[marble crater]

Deflector my beloved (I have no idea if it actually did anything)

[patent mango]

ok well enhanced desc didnt turn on my auto mod loader didnt recognize it cause its beta

time to launch game again

[pale prairie]

Man he lived…..

[marble crater]

Sorry not sorry

[wet python]

Do y’all have a good basic mod pack?

[patent mango]

get numericui and chatblock i'd say

[wet python]

Bet

[pale prairie]

I demand my schadenfreude

[marble crater]

You already have enough clips for that

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/fogo-more-star-wars-gif-13624709056817377234

[marble crater]

Maybe later when I play

or not, because I am such a great player

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-doc-ock-hes-right-he-is-right-hes-not-wrong-gif-24196261

[fresh reef]

I've been loving the weapon feel of inferno, but I don't like playing meta weapons since they tend to be really boring

so, behold the ultimate meme that somehow still works due to how fundamentally busted the flame staff is

[marble crater]

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, it's frustrating. I have a lot more to say on this topic, but I am gonna be quiet and not get more political right now.

Actually, frustrating is too gentle a word.

Infuriating. Enraging.

[pale prairie]

Let me help calm you by sharing a curated funny

[ripe obsidian]

This is accurate.

[marble crater]

I think Six is quite vexed

[ripe obsidian]

Irked, even.

[pale prairie]

A lot of our country is

You could even say 2/3rds of it

[marble crater]

smh

[pale prairie]

Smf

[ripe obsidian]

What if... a blessing for Voidstrike lowered RMB charge time on successful LMB? More significant change than Flurry to make up for the lower damage output of LMB. Would make Channeled Force reasonable to pick. And would make Empyric Shock less dumb.

[pale prairie]

I think their should be TALENTS that do that. Change channeled force and the other one to benefit non soulblaze staves

[ripe obsidian]

That would be good.

[pale prairie]

Then we have a melee path, gunker path, soulblaze path, and non soulblaze path

[ripe obsidian]

The leftmost part of the tree between blitz and aura needs a change.

[pale prairie]

DR is agnostic of build really but that top portion needs changed

[ripe obsidian]

Also, Mind in Motion is probably the single least-picked node in the tree, if I had to guess.

That or Puppetmaster

[pale prairie]

Like transfer peril and warp flurry need to be talents instead of blessings. Thats my belief

[ripe obsidian]

The issue with Empyric Shock is that, on any staff other than EK and any enemy other than bosses or crushers, there are very few situations where getting 5 stacks on an enemy is worth it.

[marble crater]

Puppetmaster was buffed by 50%, surely it's OP now

[pale prairie]

Even with EK half the time they die already or you only get like 5% more damage all considered

[zealous wing]

professional barreler

[ripe obsidian]

5 LMBs = 32%ish damage increase (unless they changed it to additive). Or just do 1 RMB in that time. Because it would take 3 RMBs to equal that extra 1

[pale prairie]

Talk about a nothing burger. Does that just make coherency toughness gen even worse?

[marble crater]

Another week and Hexis will have more playtime than me

[ripe obsidian]

But with EK's crit bonus and single-target RMB, using LMB often is desirable

[marble crater]

But it makes the coherency chain bigger, think of the all the talents that work in coherency

[zealous wing]

[ripe obsidian]

And Channeled Force requires a fully charged RMB, which is restrictive.

[pale prairie]

True but I am saying that most of the time the thing is dead before you get full bonus and if you get only 1 or 2 stacks it’s like 5-10% extra damage

[marble crater]

Okay maybe more than a week

[ripe obsidian]

It is true. But it's at least useful.

[pale prairie]

OH LIKE PSYCHIC VAMPIRE AND PSYKINETICS AURA

OP NEEDS NERF

[pale prairie]

Yes it doesn’t actively harm the build and isn’t absolutely a dead end like going soulblaze.

[wet python]

Is soulblaze selling?

[ripe obsidian]

Selling?

[pale prairie]

? Soulblaze is really good

[wet python]

Bad

[ripe obsidian]

Soulblaze is the best staffker route.

By a wide margin

[wet python]

He said deadend I was wondering lol

[pale prairie]

Arguably the meta for high havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Dead end for build diversity

[wet python]

I thought it was the best lol

Ahhhhh

I see

[pale prairie]

I was saying getting soulblaze talents when doing EK staff or Voidstrike or rending voidblast where you don’t get creeping flames shriek

[ripe obsidian]

The current tree forces staff players to use a lot of Soulblaze, which narrows build diversity in a frustrating way. At least to me.

[wet python]

That’s true, but fire is fun

[pale prairie]

Not just you I think

[pale prairie]

It is but there’s a large group who like lightning or exploding grapes

[ripe obsidian]

It is. I bask in the flame. But there should be other options

[wet python]

Tbf lighting is fun but I can’t get into the strike and blast staffs they feel bad

[ripe obsidian]

Channeled Force and Empyric Shock both feel very... "How do we make non-fire good without making fire stick more OP?"

[marble crater]

Voidblast bad, please buff

[pale prairie]

I am playing Sunderfolk and there’s a little pyromancer salamander that makes me think of you and your profile picture every time

[pale prairie]

Lmao yeah

[pale prairie]

They are stuck cause crit is good for fire and damage is pretty good for fire

The only way is some kind of peril quelling or charge speed thing

[ripe obsidian]

I do love the trope of fiery amphibians

[ripe obsidian]

Remove double soulblaze on crit. Easy fix.

[pale prairie]

Mmmmm how bad would that be for inferno/trauma? I don’t want to nuke them

[thin finch]

booted the game since the updoot and fuck, this is beautifull to see

Ima gun cry

[bitter hare]

yep time to rework your entire skill trees

[thin finch]

I think my silly crit fire build you be even more silly now !

[wet python]

It’s beautiful

[thin finch]

too bad I don't remember it !

[ornate hamlet]

tax node b-gone

[ripe obsidian]

Irrelevant to Trauma. Big nerf to Inferno. But the issue with Inferno right now is that you can scale from 0 stacks to 16 in like 2 seconds with 50% crit chance, PC, wildfire, Shriek... So you immediately hit max stacks and do 2m damage in a 30 minute game

Could rework Souldrinker to be, like toughness on kill + direct hits apply 1-2 stacks of soulblaze, once per attack. Or per enemy per attack

[thin finch]

what the ?! is this with the recent change ? (the 100% not specialist stuff)

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. Also lower CD than before

And scales multiplicatively, so better damage

[kind jay]

and it ignores bursters!

[ornate hamlet]

Elaborate, I am curious

[thin finch]

Raaah I'm gonna Brain Buurst

[ripe obsidian]

BR was previously +50% damage, flat. Now it is 150% total damage, multiplied with other damage buffs like Warp Rider or Perfect Timing

[thin finch]

what da?!

SUICIDE BUILD IS LEGIT

[ornate hamlet]

+50% damage of what?

[thin finch]

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-bro-celebrating-best-friends-squid-game-2-my-guy-gif-8389215730122450876

[wet python]

It is viable heck yeah

[ripe obsidian]

Of base BB

[ornate hamlet]

[ripe obsidian]

With all my damage buffs up, I was hitting over 5k on bosses with KF.

[ornate hamlet]

Doesn't this mean that related to BB, BR already had 150% damage?

[ripe obsidian]

It did. But the math is different

[ornate hamlet]

Is it something like the math of crit bonuses vs. armor type on weapon perks?

[white valley]

Bolt pistol with lethal proximity blessing makes the explosion radius larger

[summer prairie]

it changed from additive to multiplicative, so you only did 150% damage if you had no other +damage% modifiers

EP damage buff was also additive

[thin finch]

What an update psyker bro

[ripe obsidian]

It's more like...

BB does 1000 damage. Do +20% from WR for 1200. +500 for BR, 1700 total

Now it's 1500*1.2 for 1800.

I believe that's the correct order of operations. I picked 1000 as an easy number to start from.

[thin finch]

This is way too much

[ripe obsidian]

I did not realize EP got a bonus to damage as well. Neat.

[summer prairie]

The first example would have been 1000+200+500 previously

[ripe obsidian]

So even worse than I thought.

I wasn't positive if the +50% was before or after the multipliers

[summer prairie]

What multipliers

[ornate hamlet]

Let me see:

• For the sake of mafs, BB did 1000, which means BR with its +50% did +500 and with +20% from WR you'd get a total of 1700 damage
• Now, BB does 1000, BR gives it +150% for 2500 damage, and WR multiplies that 2500 by +20% for a total of 3000 damage

Amirite?

[summer prairie]

no

[ornate hamlet]

[ripe obsidian]

I am confusing myself, ignore me.

[summer prairie]

it's not +150%, it's 150% ie. 1.5x

it only changed from being additive to being a multiplier

[ornate hamlet]

Oh

[ripe obsidian]

Listen to Syllogism. He's smarter than me, and I confused myself.

[ornate hamlet]

So BR still would deal 1500, but now WR would multiply that 1500 by 20% instead of adding 20% of the base damage

Ergo is exponential gainz ✋ 🤚

[summer prairie]

you can do the math in any order but yes

[ornate hamlet]

PSO2 NGS had some silly multipliers like that too

[summer prairie]

you can multiply the base damage first or multiply after adding the additive modifiers to base

[ornate hamlet]

I think it was my first contact with exponential gainz™

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, before it was do all the multipliers, then add 500 to the end. Now it's a 1.5x multiplier tossed in rather than the flat number. Sorry for the bad info initially

[ornate hamlet]

Nah, it's okay, it's stuff I already knew from somewhere else and just needed to place it in Darktide

[ripe obsidian]

(If I am still explaining it badly or incorrectly, then sorry for bad info consistently)

[summer prairie]

It's better to think that additive modifiers are added together. The same thing applies to nearly all damage nodes too. If you already have +100% from a bunch of nodes, you don't gain +20% on top of that by taking warp rider

[ornate hamlet]

1000*(1+0.5+0.2)=1700 vs. 1000*1.5*1.2=1800

Essentially

[ripe obsidian]

I will trust you folks on math.

[ornate hamlet]

Or base*(1+BR+WR) vs. base*BR*WR

ish

[pale prairie]

I see so it would more just make inferno work harder to get similar damage

[ornate hamlet]

If we literally consider BR and WR to be the same variable in both equations, we'd end up with 0.5 = 1.5

Because I already established two different values and named them the same

Computers hate me

Humans understand

I am a menace with VSCode

[pale prairie]

Maybe make it something like “direct RMB’s that crit apply 2 stacks of soulblaze. Would that be busted?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. People would dislike it, but it would stop Inferno from being so runaway while still enabling you to reach the same highs

[ripe obsidian]

It does that already

[ornate hamlet]

Poggers

Kill that and give it headshot multipliers

[ripe obsidian]

I am a menace with VScode as well, but for a different reason

(It is because I am bad at coding)

[pale prairie]

I am saying take it FROM base staff and make it a souldrinker TALENT. Now you have to invest a point to get it. (Take crit chance obviously)

[marble crater]

Krieger wants to nerf Inferno, more at 11

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe? But I think the functionality would be the same, since Souldrinker is already in the way. It would end up just being a -5% crit nerf

[pale prairie]

Or just make it totally devoid of crit and make it more like battle meditation.

Every RMB pump has a percentage chance to apply double stacks of soulblaze

[ripe obsidian]

This is all my idea. Don't give him the blame. >:(

[marble crater]

He flames me all the time, I will blame him for everything I can

[ripe obsidian]

I tend to design things without RNG.

[pale prairie]

I don’t want to nerf it. I want to buff other staffs but not also secretly buff inferno

[pale prairie]

Fair. I don’t like RNG either but it’s already tied to RNG (crit) just cause crit is insanely inflated. Also would mean other blessings would actually get used on inferno

[pale prairie]

Sut is the new Dom

More news at 11

[ripe obsidian]

That would be preferable. Build diversity!

[marble crater]

False, I'm not upside down

[ripe obsidian]

Also, it would benefit non-Inferno staves to some extent if direct hits could apply 1 stack of soulblaze on a direct hit, 1x per enemy. Would probably have to make it RMB only to avoid everyone spamming LMB EK. And/or cap the LMB stacks at like 6 or 8.

[pale prairie]

It could even be “RMB has a percentage chance based on level of charge to produce double soulblaze stacks” now you have to balance blaze away with getting juicy fire stacks

[pale prairie]

Lmao fire EK

[ornate hamlet]

ngl I wish soublaze was more tied to the talent tree rather than weapons

Laspistol is a weapon I dearly wish could get soulblaze instead of infernus

And for force swords I have a hard time giving up either riposte or uncanny strike to get blazing strike

[pale prairie]

I dunno man. Gunker is pretty good. I could see having it cause warp damage would get funky with the tree as is

[ornate hamlet]

Fortunately greatswords just removed uncanny strike from the pool and now I run riposte/blazing

[ornate hamlet]

It is, but leaning a bit more into the class-specific thing would be neato

Hell, laspistol already has a force push

It shaped my expectations of psyker a lot

[pale prairie]

Yes but then you would have MM up at 25% all the time with no effort

[ornate hamlet]

I thought weapons would actually get funky class twists

[pale prairie]

That’s broken

[wet python]

The best setup is obviously 2h force sword and Elek staff

[ornate hamlet]

Anything to clown on the shout vets

[pale prairie]

I dunno if I was to have my druthers, IF and big IF there were to be a big change to the tree I would want some kind of electricity theme from talents other than just Smite and its subnodes.

[wet python]

Ah yes, fire, electric, and explosions

[thin finch]

there are some but I am pretty much okay with having guns mostly being regular gun

[ornate hamlet]

I mean yeah, it's fine

Most of my time on psyker was spent with the revolver

[thin finch]

I am a Vraks VII enjoyer and I would not want it to be magical in any way

[pale prairie]

Smite needs changed anyway but if it could be instead some kind of blitz that changes melee or guns to have electricity dots or stagger/stun. on a cooldown like the Paul that would be fun. Maybe active use of Smite would be a charged Arc AoE that does a lesser version of EK. Maybe have a subnode that stunned staggered enemies from this AoE increases warp damage OR lightning specifically damage

I dunno just give more lightning than EK and boring smite

[thin finch]

Technicallty the left node does that

[wet python]

Maybe idea ‘ gun that is for psyker that the special action is fire or electrically charged psykic bullets or a beam

Maybe like the machine pistols

[pale prairie]

Technically the left node sucks

[fresh reef]

very important question
how much HP does a single regular bulwark have at H40?

doing some breakpoint testing

[pale prairie]

That’s just new staff

[pale prairie]

I think it’s 7200 with regular havoc hp

[thin finch]

I think the best use of the node was that it's working with the blessing that increase damage against shocked ennemy, but the weapon already does that.

It does provide extra damage soemtime giving you the kill but in the heat of passion you don't really considers it

like you'll give another bonk before the shock do the kill, but if you're conscious about it, maybe it can be used to keep the momentum perk up wth a regular melee weapon 🤔 (assumiong you don't use wildfire)

[zealous wing]

ainz had a cool idea for smite

make it a large one shot high peril cost AOE

[jovial juniper]

4800 times 1.5
So 7200

[zealous wing]

instead of a steady stun it just be like a shock grenade

massive

[jovial juniper]

Make it like Arby's shield flash stun

Insta cast as well

[verbal thistle]

1.5x normal hp in auric

[thin finch]

BTW, is smite too strong or too weak ?

[zealous wing]

both

[jovial juniper]

Too strong

You stun everything that isn't a boss

[pale prairie]

So Brain Burst over an area? That sounds a little strong

[jovial juniper]

Epic win

[zealous wing]

not necessarily BB

[jovial juniper]

What's going to contest you when everything is shocked

[thin finch]

I love how the discourse around smite is summarised by this

[fresh reef]

word

[zealous wing]

doesnt have to be mega strong, just, something to make it less "press RMB and W"

[wet python]

Unlimited power

[fresh reef]

I'm gonna start abusing new crystalline will against bulwarks

just because it's funny

[white sky]

Smite when used for shenanigans? Dumb strong. Smite when used by John the level 30 psyker? Weak.

[pale prairie]

Yeah so a relatively low damage AoE fan

[jovial juniper]

Do you even hit those numbers

[wet python]

Maybe more damage on limb on the smite and more utility less damage on rmb

[zealous wing]

basically combine the dmg it does do in like, idk, 5 seconds of solid smite, into one high cost charge

[fresh reef]

no, not even remotely

[thin finch]

I think crowd control is still quite the best option for a third blitz with Single Target massive damage and Trash cleaning duty

[pale prairie]

Brother I use lights and hit 7200hp in my sleep /s

[fresh reef]

but ~1200 damage is still damage

[jovial juniper]

💀

[fresh reef]

plus it's a huge stagger, so it'll be helpful against bulwark spam

[zealous wing]

yeah but the way it is now teaches such bad habits

they think they're helping

they're really not

[fresh reef]

(note that most of the time I'll be abusing EP flayer and true aim voidstrike, which is oneshotting auric bulwarks to the shield lol

[pale prairie]

Just needs to be lower damage than BB or Assail. Especially cause EP will buff damages. Needs to be more about staggering, CC, applying a debuff

[ornate hamlet]

Smite's CC is goated, but many players think the game is hard enough to the point it needs to be used 24/7

[thin finch]

I disagree a bit on this one, they are defintely helping but also reduce the fun as a result hence the too strong

[pale prairie]

Like warp rupture

[patent mango]

warp lettuce

[ornate hamlet]

Also many people play the higher difficulties because they're higher difficulties, and spamming smite on everything basically makes the game batshit boring

[pale prairie]

There are a few havoc modifiers that make smite obsolete

[zealous wing]

no like, anyones skills that require dodging, or use the enemy movements to actually kill shit, or idk, walk through a hallway, its all not doable

[thin finch]

I do see it's value when I see 32 angry naked british man running from the corner but it does teach bad habit of player not learning to dance and using smite instead

[wet python]

If not smite the what do you guys use

[zealous wing]

assail

or BB on most staves

[thin finch]

That one is a bit niche imo and Havoc should not be consider for balance of the game imo

[wet python]

Really? I thought assail was the worst of three

[zealous wing]

HAH

no

[pale prairie]

Typically it goes assail for gunker or melee and Brain Rupture with Kinetic Flayer for staffs

[pale prairie]

But that’s how they are balancing at the moment

[thin finch]

Far from it's glory day but the only issue of assail is dealing with armored ennemy, you can easily have a weapon to deal with it

[pale prairie]

So the blitzes should reflect that

[thin finch]

arguably ,assail is the worst of the thee (outside from havoc I don't play much) as a result since Smite basically prevent the crowd of trash and armored angry man while Assail only help you deal with the trash

but it ain"t bad

[pale prairie]

Assail kills everything but carapace. Smite can kill carapace in an hour. Brain burst actually can kill carapace. Its diversity of blitz

[strong gulch]

Assail is not just for trash.

[pale prairie]

And honestly with SG and warpsplitting I can kill Maulers with assail

It’s more expensive but it can happen

[pine relic]

Guys, for the force great sword, should I pick preconginition or unstable power?

[wet python]

May I ask why people seem to have numbers in their name/ what looks like phone numbers

[thin finch]

hence the use of prevent and deal, but I should have use kill instead I guess

[thin finch]

Friend code to join multiplayer

[wet python]

Ahhhh

Same length as phone number I was like WTH are they doing here lol

[zinc phoenix]

we offer pay per minute erotic phone services

[pale prairie]

It’s the bill gates microchip serial numbers

[wet python]

Shut sign me up but you gotta do an Ogryn voice

[thin finch]

Join the best rubbing session from your local elevator

[strong gulch]

Yes BELOVED. They are enjoying the medicae.

[pale prairie]

Alright time to do your best sefoni moan

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/water-spray-stop-sprinkle-water-gif-11895255

[wet python]

[teal copper]

I require gun psyker AND melee psyker build because i have zero goddamn idea how to make efficient builds!

[marble crater]

Why did they nerf her though

[marble crater]

They are the same build

[wet python]

Just use what you want and eventually beloved will provide

[pale prairie]

Because suddenly everyone was playing mortis and no more havoc

[thin finch]

why, did they put clothes on her in her tube ?

[strong gulch]

Logged into the game just to get this.

[teal copper]

Some perks are exchanged which is why i ask for both

[marble crater]

She moans less now

[strong gulch]

Melk has no curios. Bigger scam than usual.

[teal copper]

I just need the build, i have a rough skeleton for it but im sure theres some fat to trim off of it

[marble crater]

I don't have a gunker build for the new tree yet
@zealous wing this guy needs your gunker build

[prime elk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da95bc2-c968-4cd9-9b57-b0d4ef08d341/zealot-but-better

Gunker is meleeker

They’re the same thing

[pale prairie]

Alright mini me try this framework out it’s very safe

[teal copper]

Whenever i hear gunker i think of gears of war

[strong gulch]

Arby just sitting there collecting dust. Not even under the warming lights anymore.

[hollow current]

not even 25 stacks of DD?

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-gif-12944899486400191725

[modest patrol]

Greetings siblings, it's been a long while

[teal copper]

No non-warp ranged crits quell?

[thin finch]

I see you picked the good distrupt destiny perk

[pale prairie]

Nope I don’t want the point tax. I want my peril high.

[prime elk]

Perfectionism is pretty broken now so yeah

[pale prairie]

You can manually quell

[prime elk]

No brainer to take it

[modest patrol]

Had a surgery a couple months back that kept me from sitting at my desk, got in game just now and found that all my builds are reset with the update

[thin finch]

Do you even need to quel when you're a gunker ?

[teal copper]

Not if youre spamming the shit out of your recon

[pale prairie]

For SG

[hollow current]

It's helpful to maintain the 20% crit chance.

[pale prairie]

You can move stuff around nothing is set in stone. Probably take from Just a Dream or One with the Warp

But bullets gonna be hitting harder with high peril

[teal copper]

Pug juggler sounds like a obscure way of calling someone overweight 😭

[pale prairie]

WARP RIDER affects all damage

[long saddle]

I tried removing warp unbound from my gunker build

[hollow current]

It's free damage tho

[long saddle]

and my muscle memory made me overload like 3 times in a game

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[long saddle]

and I then put it back

[teal copper]

Brain turn off, need warp unbound

[wet python]

What guns do y’all use for gunker

[verbal thistle]

shredder auto

[long saddle]

recon las is my current

[prime elk]

Recon las Vraks shredder or laspis

[hollow current]

MK II las pistol or Vraks V (columnus) for me

[pale prairie]

Vraks Infantry auto or recon las mk 12 are the popular ones

[thin finch]

oh yeah true,; I do encourage to take By crack of bone with it tbh ,you have quite the control over it and it's performing a lot

[wet python]

Funny smg pistol or lasgun got it

[pale prairie]

Then there’s heavy las pistols. Shotguns and bolt pistol

[thin finch]

maybe too much quell in the heat of passion

[long saddle]

I've done revolver, double barrel, braced auto, and the autopistol

oh and bolt as well ye

[pale prairie]

I would only do BCOB if you are mostly shooting. For melee it quells too fast

[long saddle]

I do BCOB on my reg force sword build, not FGS

[fresh reef]

rate my weakspot fetish build

[wet python]

Force sword is the best weapon especially 2h

[strong gulch]

Deimos you mean?

[long saddle]

I like both deimos and illisi

[strong gulch]

It's mk of force sword.

[hollow current]

doesnt even show weapon perks or blessings

[long saddle]

deimos if I'm doing non-SG and just as a good backup

[thin finch]

both are cool tbh the Big FuckinG Sword is great too tho, unless it got nerfed

[fresh reef]

dawg

click on the images

kek

[wet python]

They all make me happy I like the funny magic sword of doom and air slashes

[hollow current]

oh im regarded

[spiral storm]

Obscuris is the best force sword

[fresh reef]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087833002270281858/1405333437891481721/image0.gif

[long saddle]

I wish FS wasn't so slow to run with tho

so if I want full mobility I usually just do knife

[pale prairie]

You CAN do it nothing stops you. I just think it ends up lowering the benefits from unstable, warpsplitting, OWtW, Warp rider.

[fresh reef]

with warp ghost and psychic leech, this is how much toughness a singular melee kill on any enemy will generate

fucking lol

[white sky]

You were talking about SB Smite yesterday, right?

[long saddle]

ye ik, it's a conscious choice

[hollow current]

Mettle + Warp Speed + 5% node to DD + DD =*** ZYOOOOM***

[wet python]

Too many numbers, beloved smite these fellows

[pale prairie]

Was I? Soulblaze smite? I don’t think so. Do you have more context for my old meat computer?

[white sky]

I remember someone in here talking about soul blaze smite pumping out astronomical numbers in havoc yesterday and I thought it was you

Debate between that vs the numbers inferno would do

Vs the usefulness of smite going through walls and stuff

[pale prairie]

Oh yeah I was joking about that

[zealous wing]

who

[pale prairie]

You can absolutely pump numbers big but doubt you’re contributing much just leeching numbers off every enemy and making the run twice as long

[white sky]

Alright, I saw some streamer doing it and vet chat was bitching about it trivializing havoc before I showered so I wasnt sure if it was real

[zealous wing]

ive technically got two builds rn, one for until they fix the plasma's, and one i use more happily

[white sky]

Figured itd help me kill 1k dudes for the penance

[long saddle]

as long as you don't get one of the CC immune modifiers maybe

[royal totem]

Mr. E?

[summer prairie]

Not sure which Psychic Leeching you are talking about there, it gives 20% toughness flat when using EP blitz

[white sky]

Didn't catch the name, showed up in my live scroll

Something somwthing h40 grind

[wet python]

Mr E is fun sometimes

[white sky]

I kinda don't watch gaming youtubers/streamers anymore

[royal totem]

probably him then. and god he annoys me

[zealous wing]

mr e is kinda a dumbass

[marble crater]

@zealous wing

[hollow current]

for real. look up Tanner for the REAL builds.

[wet python]

Yeah but dark tide content is not abundant

[strong gulch]

I think Krieger was more saying smite itself is a damage leech.

[white sky]

I would prefer to simply not take the opinion of a Gaming Youtuber

[wet python]

Eh it’s fun if you want a base to then modify

[white sky]

I can get that here from people who don't make me watch pre roll ads

[pale prairie]

Nemui stonks getting higher

[zealous wing]

i need to review my build and make sure its accurate to how it is atm

[wet python]

Calm down tongs my boy some peeps in here get irate when requesting builds

[zealous wing]

i switched a point somewhere

[royal totem]

i'm still not over encountering a smite bot last night

[white sky]

Thats their problem lol

[pale prairie]

If you’re talking to me I don’t say psychic I was saying leeching like a parasite. Pulling numbers off enemies but not actually killing

[summer prairie]

some guy was doing math about psychic leeching toughness gain

[white sky]

I keep running into smite only psykers in malice and heresy while leveling

Like

Will not pull out the staff or melee for anything

[thin finch]

yeah, that is the true plague of smite

[wet python]

Tbf lots of lighting feels good but that is about it

[royal totem]

my sincere condolances

[wet python]

Then again play how you want

[zealous wing]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff65af5-e96e-48a9-b91d-34f8b76124b8/hexis-the-berpsyker

this is my main build, its a gunker, but, i did my best to make it dual purpose.

[white sky]

Its fine, I can drag people through malice and heresy

Its just like

Like you're not even killing them

[royal totem]

abso fucking lutely not

if your build is making things more painful for everybody then it's a giant f u

[white sky]

Sure, but at some point I will leave you in the horde for you to smite and die

[zealous wing]

for until plasmas are fixed, switch vraks for reconlas, collateral dump stat with infernus and dumdum, and switch linger influence for mettle

[royal totem]

do we drag Tongs through Auric now?

[white sky]

I'm about to go to dinner

[royal totem]

damn. tragic lmao

[white sky]

So no

[strong gulch]

auric dinner

[wet python]

Well what if they didn’t know any better lol, unfortunately you cannot stop people from bringing trash unless you 4 stack

[royal totem]

yeah but you can kill them and not res them

[white sky]

Tbh I dont like getting drug through auric either, makes my brain go numb

[wet python]

Now THAT is toxic

[white sky]

I can teach people stuff in lowbies too

Like you don't need to carry that power cell across the whole fuckin map

It was for the med station 30 feet ago

[strong gulch]

Trash builds are one thing. Being actively detrimental by turning the enemy AI off forever is another.

[royal totem]

i don't care if your points are built in the worst way possible

it's another being a smite bot and making the game a pain for the 3 others

[white sky]

Just pull out your gd weapon at some point

Stop going down

Idk

[royal totem]

like if you're leveling, it's kinda whatevs if your points are badly invested

[white sky]

The ai cant move how are you getting cornered

[thorn cedar]

I would never use Charged Strikes

[royal totem]

yesterday night........ i encountered somebody that used smite and only smite on beast of nurgle and plague ogryn and chaos spawn AND a fucking demonhost

[austere burrow]

Smite can be good if you build around it

And you bring a void strike staff

It's not the optimal build

[white sky]

I dont disagree but we're talking about smite bots

[austere burrow]

But it can work

[royal totem]

if you're actually using void strike and just sometimes smiting, you're not a smite bot. you're a smite bot if the only thing you do is smite

[white sky]

Nah they're the dps don't you know, they're keeping the Plogryn health from ticking back up tickling it.

[wet python]

Naw just use assail gunker and profit

[royal totem]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[potent pelican]

i def enjoy abit of smiting but when the bosses come out i use and infernus pistol or a fire staff to dot them

[austere burrow]

To be fair as Psyker BR is better

Mostly cause it's the only single target option we truly have

[strong gulch]

Smite can be good if USED appropriately; single point or all in.

[austere burrow]

But people can use what they enjoy

My only complaint about smite is my eletrokinetic staff does pretty much the same but better

[strong gulch]

Ye, people can play what they want. If I see a smyker I just leave.

Same for players who use stealth to dump aggro.

[wet python]

Just gotta be better and carry like the true psyker you are

[strong gulch]

Nah. It's like a pebbles stuck in my shoe. I don't have to keep walking around like that.

[ripe obsidian]

What about my super duper elite killer charged strikes build?!

@thorn cedar

[wet python]

True psyker responses

[wet python]

10/10

[hollow current]

No Warp Rider? 🤮

[ripe obsidian]

This is a build that someone asked that would, "look good for a new player and get them killed"

[strong gulch]

Unskilled players are one thing. A stealth zealot aggroing the whole map onto the rest of the team and just runs ahead while spamming "hurry up" is getting blocked.

[ripe obsidian]

@zealous wing I believe

[marble crater]

Sounds like something Potato would ask for

[ripe obsidian]

It was the worst build I could come up with that didn't look like outright trolling

[strong gulch]

It is on brand.

[hollow current]

huh. gotta get rid of warp unbound then

[thorn cedar]

It's beautiful. Now throw it into the chasm.

[strong gulch]

Maybe.

WU kinda sells it tho

[hollow current]

just get rid of WU and finegle crystalline will in there somehow

[ripe obsidian]

New players might not notice when WU ends. :D

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you.

[thorn cedar]

If I wasn't too lazy to learn video editing I would throw together a supercut of Smyker highlights from my own gameplay.

Alas I am too lazy.

[hollow current]

yeah that's true, it's hard to tell without having a timer or a mod telling you lmao

[strong gulch]

I'm too lazy to do it my own clip supercut

[royal totem]

I should play with hexis again someday

[thorn cedar]

Even if you're not going full Smyker tho Warp Unbound is too good to pass up.

It's nice that the instant your Veteran eats an overhead and died you can just press F and start Smiting for the revive.

You don't wanna have to waste time quelling or waiting on Scriers to end first or whatever.

[hollow current]

why doesn't smite have a node for reviving nearby teammates like vets do with shout?

[thorn cedar]

Electric Motivation: zapped teammates revive.

[wet python]

Naw that would be a quelling shout perk I forgor the name

[hollow current]

it should also have another that give a 1% chance to auto kill on every tic.

[white sky]

Ive unironically wanted some sort of true biomancy psyker for a minute

[royal totem]

If it comes with smite jumps to less enemies every time it revives somebody. Sure

[strong gulch]

Automated external defibrillator

[ripe obsidian]

That would fit with the biomancer theme.

[strong gulch]

Pysker shouts "CLEAR"

[patent quest]

Are Channeled Force and Empyric Shock worth taking when using the Electrokinetic staff?

[gray juniper]

Auric and maelstrom haven’t been the same since last two big updates

[wet python]

Any ally within 10 meters of an electrocuted via smite enemy gets 10% more move speed and toughness damage reduction psychic motivation

[gray juniper]

Still feels less populated

[ripe obsidian]

Empyric Shock yes, channeled force no

Imo

[hollow current]

all other classes tho should get a node where Psykers automatically die on smite usage

[patent quest]

Yeah channeled force doesn't seem that good with the electro staff. It's secondary doesn't feel effective

[wet python]

Forced warp overload

[zealous wing]

was me

[strong gulch]

They aren't bad picks for EK, especially if you do LMB spam (and mixing it up).

But you have to be mindful about incorporating needed attack patterns to keep the buffs and debuffs up.

Not ideal for EK RMB shriek spam.

[ripe obsidian]

RMB on EK is quite good at deleting big enemies. But you rarely charge it fully, and there are lots of better nodes

[pale prairie]

Yeah they were supposed to be harder. The event was definitely hard

[strong gulch]

Ye. Charging it FULLY and node competition.

[ripe obsidian]

The other issue with Channeled Force is the same issue as with Arby's middle keystone: it forces you into a potentially bad gameplay loop to keep buffs up.

[patent quest]

Does that mean I should take vulnerable minds with thr electro staff too?

[ripe obsidian]

It's a good node if you have points. I'll try to get my EK builds added to the guide tonight or tomorrow.

[patent quest]

What melee weapon do you use with thr electro staff? Im using the greatsword rn

[pale prairie]

“Guides by Six”
Coincidentally the highest level of havoc you’ll be able to clear

[ripe obsidian]

Something like this for a Shriekspam EK.

[pale prairie]

Mmmmm love me some shriek spam

[ripe obsidian]

Really? I've only managed to do 3 so far. Double my skill!

[strong gulch]

FGS, illisi, bleed knife, devil's claw are all fine options for EK.

YOu want something that can handle hordes.

[pale prairie]

Wait havoc 33… 3+3=6…..

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

Anybody gotten an error 2014 in havoc today?

[strong gulch]

Honestly, I'd say illisi is even less good now with WG because it helps keep peril up. So super low warp resist is less needed. (for EK shirek spam)

[marble crater]

No, but I also didn't play havoc today

You are welcome

[pale prairie]

Thanks

[marble crater]

But I need my illisi for EK build, greatsword is too slow

[fresh reef]

is dueling sword considered non-meta now is it still right at the top?

[pale prairie]

I just got my 23% WR FGS don’t say that

[strong gulch]

Other than possibly deflector in havocs (and if my hands hold up), I have no regrets with changing to EK + knife.

[gray juniper]

It was. Aside from plasma gunners there’s nothing worth being concerned about. Auric is too easy

[strong gulch]

skissue?? (also same 😭 )

[pale prairie]

Yeah good thing Illisi is fast

[strong gulch]

Is fine. Low WR melee still great.

[gray juniper]

It’s weird to have this difficulty gulf between auric and havoc 25 to havoc 30

[ripe obsidian]

Probably middle of the pack, if I had to guess. Parry is strong, but not as much murder on demand. Also high mobility.

[marble crater]

@strong gulchsee how he flames me with my own clips?

[gray juniper]

People blow through the lower havocs not even realizing their strategy is bad

[strong gulch]

Deserved.

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

With hexis and co we had 2 captains and a beast of nurgle spawn with 20 plasma gunners. It was nuts

[gray juniper]

I’m on your side

I’m here for you soot

[pale prairie]

They were not weakened

[gray juniper]

Double captains is always a tricky one. You are talking havoc yes?

[ripe obsidian]

I will try to play Havocs tonight after I have added Voidstrike to the guide.

[zealous wing]

it was event

[pale prairie]

I promise to clip my own failures for you to throw back at me. Like a game of catch between acquaintances (I know Germans don’t just say friend Willy nilly)

[gray juniper]

That’s crazy to be surprised by that but a great surprise none the less

[strong gulch]

I am slowly reading it as brain power allows. 🫡

[marble crater]

good

[ripe obsidian]

No rush. So long as information is accurate and helpful to people, I'm happy.

Also I revel in the power that comes with being the arbiter of builds. I decide the meta now!

[pale prairie]

“Huh these trees are missing the middle blitz”

[zealous wing]

you aren't just a nerd, you're THE nerd, and our nerd

[strong gulch]

Six take the wheel.

[pale prairie]

Did you add anything since the weekend? I read through the whole thing basically the night you sent it hahaha

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, I was dying all weekend

I maybe added a couple lines since I added Voidblast

[zealous wing]

@rancid geyser wanna join me and 2 semi-randos for some campaign shenanigans?

[pale prairie]

Fair that’s what it sounded like. Glad you survived the personal inferno

[marble crater]

Hexis about to carry again

[zealous wing]

ive been

that lil fledgling i mentioned

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you. I can't succumb until I have indoctrinated the Psykers of this discord with my thoughts, that way I can live on inside of them. In a literal sense, as an infectious cognitive hazard.

[pale prairie]

Wait a minute…….Grandfather Nurgle?

[wet python]

SCP 40K psyker brain worm

[marble crater]

Jokes on you, I have free will and make my own builds

[zealous wing]

same here, then i get flamed for them

but i use them anyway

[pale prairie]

We can tell….

[ripe obsidian]

Not quite. Just think of me as a less traditional kind of lich

[pale prairie]

Honestly lich would be kind of cool if magic existed

Just an eternity to learn

[wet python]

[marble crater]

It's too bad I can't record my games

[ripe obsidian]

I would like immortality on the condition that I could end it if I wished.

[pale prairie]

I also am sad about this

[ripe obsidian]

Don't really want to live through the heat death of the universe

[pale prairie]

Yeah exactly. Just crush your phylactery and teleport into the sun

[hollow current]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-intro-gif-16508571461051944198

the next thing you see is this

[ripe obsidian]

Works for me.

[pale prairie]

Of all the places to get isekai’d

[ripe obsidian]

I'll go find Numidium and goomba stomp through time and space

[pale prairie]

I am immediately exploring elsewhere though. Been in Skyrim long enough

[modest perch]

based tbh. first thing i do is go find serana n live happily ever after

[ripe obsidian]

When I worked at Zenimax (just in tech support, nothing interesting), I was an unofficial loremaster. All support tickets involving lore went to me.

[thorn cedar]

Sheogorath said I was gay and should kms what does this mean

[deft stump]

Throws a krak.

[strong gulch]

Cool. Found a smol fly in coffee.

[thorn cedar]

You're lucky. People at Starbucks pay extra for that protein.

[teal copper]

What is the dumpy stat for funny lightning staff

[hollow current]

warp res for all staves

[teal copper]

I figured

[marble crater]

Drink it to absorb its power

[radiant frigate]

genius honestly

[ripe obsidian]

Blast radius for voidstrike

[pale prairie]

You can’t spend this much of your life bathed in fantasy lore without thinking about these things

[hollow current]

oh yeah there's that one to make shooting guys near cover easier, right?

[pale prairie]

Nah they pay for 190 degree Viente raspberry white mocha with 7 pumps white mocha 7 pumps raspberry syrup DO NOT STIR.

[radiant frigate]

i thought starbucks sells coffee what is this

[pale prairie]

It’s average American customer

Customer is always right Kat

[deft stump]

They pay extra for white creamy stuff, more like.

[pale prairie]

[deft stump]

Is also a good way to nuke someone who literally just have cracked up Wolverine regen.

[pale prairie]

Fire cleanses all.

[rigid sky]

What's the combos on obscurus?

[hollow current]

heavy light light? I think.

[radiant frigate]

...in matters of taste

[rigid sky]

I will be using it almost 100% as a single target killer

[rigid sky]

lovely ty

[marble crater]

He doesn't know the full quote, as he has no taste

[radiant frigate]

nogginbonk uppercut shank

[hollow current]

yeah, Kat knows the move.

[pale prairie]

It’s a call and response. Someone is supposed to finish it

[marble crater]

I don't think so

[radiant frigate]

marco

[deft stump]

That last mortis game with void touched twinned regen fire 'nades? Yes, yes it does.

[marble crater]

Blitzen

[pale prairie]

Polo

[pale prairie]

Lmao

Op

[radiant frigate]

[deft stump]

Half the new map on fire.

[rigid sky]

special attack ever good on it?

[radiant frigate]

only if you have the secret tech

[deft stump]

Got the penance done. Just need throwing knoifes to finish Zealot.

Then oggy left but CBA.

[pale prairie]

Frame rate drops

[deft stump]

Nope, is not box of boom.

[radiant frigate]

the tech in question, of course #psyker-class message

[pale prairie]

@radiant frigate

[copper jay]

@strong gulch Did you find any purgatus build with the tree change ?

[marble crater]

There is a build from Six in the pin from Potato

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah, Six is working on a build guide and there's multiple builds for purg.

In the pins.

#psyker-class message

[thorn cedar]

Can I get a uhhhhhh venti iced white mocha with six pumps of sugar free vanilla, line the cup with caramel, caramel drizzle on top, and vanilla sweet cream cold foam. It's low sugar, right?

"Is that with or without the whip?"
-scoff- with of course

[keen cargo]

guys should i get this ?

or is it weird the thing coming out the back of the head

[thorn cedar]

My cigarettes come with a health warning, I think it's insane our cups don't have one.

[thorn cedar]

You need the plug in so you can Netrun.

[strong gulch]

Of course it's weird. Get it if you want.

[keen cargo]

I COULDN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO COME AND CLEAR THE CUPBOOOOARDS

[thorn cedar]

🤖 You think you're special just because you're scrappy? 🤖

[white valley]

No, it's so ugly

[royal totem]

@pale prairie what's your thingy your friend thingy on darktide

i have friend requests from two people and idk if one is you lmao

[cosmic cobalt]

what trauma dump stat again

[white valley]

warp res

pretty much every staff dumps warp res

[rigid sky]

except for voidstrike iirc?

think that dumps blast radius

unless something changed

[modest perch]

yea voidstrike is just dumped entirely

[rigid sky]

ok so I have been sleeping on obscurus

it feels like a monster now

finally my voidblast psyker has a way to fight bosses that isn't just rupture spam

[strong gulch]

Correct.

But if you just want to dump WR on all of them because simple, valid.

[cosmic cobalt]

what perk and blessing on trauma'

[modest perch]

if ur cool warp nexus blazing spirit

if ur cringe warp flurry rending

[cosmic cobalt]

perk?

[ripe obsidian]

Blast radius at 60 vs 80:

Blast radius total of 3.6 vs 3.2
Epicenter radius of 1.33 vs 1.28

So very minimal on the actual damaging part. The total radius does... very little, afaik.

[modest perch]

if ur cool crit n flak

[cosmic cobalt]

ok so i dumped wrong stat

[modest perch]

if ur cringe caraflak

[cosmic cobalt]

luckily i kept the blast one

[rigid sky]

flak unyielding also an option maybe idk

I kinda feel like with blazing spirit you really wanna maximise those burny procs

now more than ever

empathic evasion too

[pale prairie]

Krieger is my character name and steam is SonofActuary

[royal totem]

will accept soon i think

[cosmic cobalt]

how do i play trauma

do i charge or spam m2

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/think-through-working-out-grace-and-frankie-season1-netflix-gif-16104252

[pale prairie]

Try to charge as much as possible. It affects the radius of what you can blow up.

[weary crane]

Carapace is very good now since crushers are so fucking beefy

[royal totem]

i accepted

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-the-office-memes-dwight-schrute-michael-scott-we-did-it-gif-4850767545929098213

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[pale prairie]

"This is just 6,666 lines of Burninate"

[strong gulch]

Yay the bad recolor I did.

[ripe obsidian]

I am honestly hoping the build templates are the most useful part of that. Make people think about what they're picking rather than just picking blindly

I mean, at least one build I use has node I rated yellow or orange, but I pick them because I think they're good for my playstyle.

[ripe obsidian]

Have you played Sunless Seas?

[strong gulch]

I think does. It's a simplistic visual representation of what takes a lot of text to describe.

[pale prairie]

the fucking ocean horror?

[white sky]

You mean the book you can swim through?

[pale prairie]

Can't say that I have

[ripe obsidian]

Well.

There's a text box that logs events

And when you go near the southwest of the map, you find a location called The Dawn Machine

[white sky]

I really want to sit down and play sunless sea proper

[ripe obsidian]

While it is on your screen, the text box fills up with "THE SUN. THE SUN. THE SUN." repeated endlessly

[pale prairie]

That's kind of cool

[ripe obsidian]

I am glad. I also did add some text, partially to explain my reasons and partially so colorblind folks aren't screwed over

[ripe obsidian]

I am very bad at it, and I got sick of making progress only to die and lose everything. It's punishing, even for roguelikes. Ended up playing super safe, getting rich selling coffee, and using a guide to get the best engine

[white sky]

Idk, I like challenging games its just that the sunless is uh

Its slow

Lol

Its filled to the brim with interesting stuff from what Ive seen tho

The setting is cool

[cosmic cobalt]

ok the funny fire not working so well

am i being trolled

[white sky]

Inferno staff?

[cosmic cobalt]

bo

no

trauma

[pale prairie]

how have you built it?

[cosmic cobalt]

blazing warp

might be skill issue though

[pale prairie]

what blessings what perks and what dump?

are you following a six build?

[cosmic cobalt]

blast dump

[royal totem]

i should ask.
how do i switch servers in Darktide

[cosmic cobalt]

blazing + warp

crit + flak

[pale prairie]

got to the big green mission board. to the bottom right are mission options. so you can turn off campaign and set the server region

[cosmic cobalt]

do i take er so i can fully charge more

[royal totem]

ahhh so that's where it is

[marble crater]

Buff Plasma Gunners please

[pale prairie]

sure. the big thing is that you are knocking things on their ass while setting them on fire. you are also shrieking anytime you get 86% peril

you want big circles but not at the expense of your life

[ripe obsidian]

I do have Voidblast builds in the guide. Huzzah. But I am open to feedback on all builds. So long as it's constructive. For people who want to be rude, I have a note in the FAQ.

[marble crater]

Just look at your feet and spam big circles

[ripe obsidian]

I recommend it on Trauma.

A full RMB is like 35% charge or something crazy

[marble crater]

Where can I find the FAQ?

[ripe obsidian]

It should be at the bottom

I think I added that to the live version

Might still be in my draft

[marble crater]

Too much work to scroll down, I will just not be rude then

[pale prairie]

Damn it was alot more polite than i thought it would be

[modest perch]

i will not read it but i will be rude

[pale prairie]

are they boring now?

[cosmic cobalt]

not really

but theyre much weaker now

[white sky]

I think they over corrected with the nerf tbh

[cosmic cobalt]

kinda overnerfed them

[white sky]

Yeah

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-be-the-judge-of-that-ben-grimm-the-thing-herbie-the-fantastic-four-first-steps-gif-2042545749737609968

[ripe obsidian]

I decided being aggressively rude would just make people not want to use the guide

[marble crater]

They are kinda just... there and don't do much? Nerf was too much for sure

[pale prairie]

huh you think?

[marble crater]

Jokes on them though, by the time they get to the FAQ, they already read the entire guide, so you can be as rude as you want

[ripe obsidian]

"Scab Plasma Gunner

Improved visuals: the Plasma Gunner’s weapon will be slightly lit at all times.
Aim duration increased from 0.5 → 0.75
Shoot cooldown increased from 1.5 → 2.4
Reduced power from 650 → 550
Reduced base HP 950 → 900
Limited spawn amount per difficulty.
Removed wall penetration.
Increased damage against fellow enemies.
Dev Note: We’re aware of the feedback surrounding the Audio / Visual cues for the Plasma Gunner and are working on a solution."

Just for reference

[ripe obsidian]

True. I shall spend some time brewing better rudeness

[patent mango]

plasma gunners were just shot Dead Forever in houston

[ripe obsidian]

Houston, Sweden?

[patent mango]

houston 40k

[marble crater]

The slightly lit guns look very awesome in lights out missions though, would be very scary, if they didn't nerf them too hard

[white sky]

I think they should've waited another week

People had a fat knee jerk reaction

[royal totem]

the biggest nerf for plasma gunners

was increased visibilit6y

[pale prairie]

alright buddy I activated instant replay on nvidia. hopefully it doesn't cost me my super skills

[marble crater]

Or just nerf in small steps

[white sky]

Yeah

[pale prairie]

they needed at least spawn rate tuned down. but yeah

3 bosses and 20 plasma was no fun

[patent mango]

they're pretty abysmal

[marble crater]

I don't think you have to worry about that

[modest perch]

they didnt need to exist to begin with. game has tons of ranged elites/specials already

[pale prairie]

nah cause you see its costing me framerates

[patent mango]

the game needs more enemies i disagree with that one

[white sky]

We dont even have a comparable roster to vt2

I imagine it'll expand much more with time

[marble crater]

Oh no

[modest perch]

yea something interesting like idk a plaguebearer

[patent mango]

the idea for plasma gunners is decent it being an anti toughness specialist (They're definitely a specialist they do special things)

[pale prairie]

so uh bad play is uh thats why

[patent mango]

idk a plaguebearer just looks boring

[modest perch]

another horde of ranged elites with the old shotgunner stunlock was not needed

[narrow herald]

One Unclean one 😈

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-face-yeah-ok-then-sure-gif-14215039757555920220

[modest perch]

a small slightly dirty one

[patent mango]

unless they're vastly different from the ones we had in rogue trader

[pale prairie]

PLAGUE MARINE

[modest perch]

plague marine too strong

same as great unclean one

[patent mango]

look the plague marines arent paid enough to deal with the rejects

[pale prairie]

they don't care about powercreep bud

[patent mango]

so its not happening

[modest perch]

hence a plaguebearer would make more sense

[white sky]

Im ngl

[narrow herald]

Just a bit of a putrid one

[pale prairie]

PLAGUE MARINE IN A WHEEL CHAIR

[white sky]

I could see A Plague Marine Champion being a story relevant character

[patent mango]

also plague marine being too strong makes no sense we 2 shot ogryns

[modest perch]

yea and we routinely drop demonhosts

[white sky]

We're dark heresy player characters

We can kill a marine

Hell we can probably kill marines plural

[modest perch]

so idk theyve taken some liberties with power vs lore accuracy

[white sky]

Tbf

[patent mango]

they wouldnt even be bosses

is the thing

[white sky]

Humans have killed marines in warhammer with wooden spears

40k "power scale" does not exist

Within its own lore

[pale prairie]

thats true

there is no canon

[white sky]

Not even there is no canon

We are the protags

The plague marine is not lol

It would be within 40k narrative to win that

If we weren't special we'd have died to the first 5 poxxies

[patent mango]

i think most non main rejects die to guns actually

morrow mentions they keep getting shot in mourningstar lmao

[white sky]

Yeah

We are the special group of prisoners lol

[modest perch]

sucks theyre probably gonna mindwipe us when this is all over

[marble crater]

Sucks for them, broke asses who can't afford deflector

[white sky]

Not as common post rift opening tbh

[patent mango]

morrow wouldnt let it happen

[white sky]

Its like, impossible to keep the concept of chaos under wraps now

Didn't we get inducted into the warband too?

Like thats the level 30 cutscene iirc

[patent mango]

yea

[modest perch]

you think morrows got enough juice to defy an interrogator ?

[patent mango]

its morrow

[white sky]

I think you'd be marginally less useful to an interrogator mindwiped tbh

You're a useful asset with knowledge of the enemy

[patent mango]

honestly rannick does think we're useful

[white sky]

Yeah

[patent mango]

so rannick wont let it happen either he'd want us to do more

[hollow current]

then why does he keep telling me to go into the airlock and space myself?

[patent mango]

doesnt like you specifically

[hollow current]

[modest perch]

yea pretty much

rannick said im his fav

[royal totem]

lmao

[runic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-2-death-space-marine-2-gif-12976716491498684396

still calling bs on this one though

[hollow current]

I think that one happened to some nerd nightlord

[white sky]

I dont even remotely remember that

Sm2?

Has to be

What scene is that

[runic juniper]

yeah, metal rebar beats a space marine

[patent mango]

poor guy couldnt afford a blue helmet to fit the rest of his drip

[white sky]

Lmfao

[runic juniper]

the one marine that actually keeps his helmet on and it doesnt do shit

[patent mango]

the helmetless named plasma gunner will change 40k forever

[runic juniper]

it was the traitor guard reveal, you got to have 1 extra buddy marine for the first half of the mission and he dies like that

[weary crane]

The red helmet on ultramarines is the sign of a captain or vet from what I can remember

[white sky]

Right right, ty

[patent mango]

i do believe it has meaning yeah

[white sky]

Thats a veteran sarge

[patent mango]

but also it looks terrible

[white sky]

Codex compliant chapters have red helmets to signify squad leadership

White stripe denotes veterancy

Comes from Aeonid Thiel during the Battle of Calth

Used to be a mark of Censure in the legions

[patent mango]

wait thats a hecking squad leader

they clearly chose wrong

[white sky]

Veterancied one, yeah

That guys been around awhile just to die like that

Lemme grab a codex rq

Yup

[zealous wing]

@rancid geyser weird DC bug thing, cant join squad back

[rancid geyser]

try now

i think we were loading

[copper jay]

one with warp and just a dream are not useful together ?

[pale prairie]

they are

but require a little balancing

[kind jay]

i went afk for a bit and when i came back and left the equip window, i got spammed with a shitload of lobby voicelines

is that a new bug rofl

[cosmic cobalt]

i feel like im doing no damage using trauma lmao

[pale prairie]

@marble crater

so apparently pushing bursters with LMB inferno isn't cool anymore

[pale prairie]

yeah at that point they had used 3 medicae to everybody else's one

[marble crater]

The name is a giveaway

[copper jay]

Trying this one

[pale prairie]

youre saying its a redflag?

[marble crater]

Too bad it wasn't even your fault and the second burster jumped you

[marble crater]

Yes

[pale prairie]

here I got to watch Greed get revenge for me