#psyker-class

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wind spruce
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😭

plucky flax
strong gulch
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I forgor. In bed. It otherwise functions the same iirc. Could be wrong. Am in bed so can't check.

wind spruce
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does not staack

loud girder
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Ogryn rework is free and as op, also came before arbi.

summer prairie
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it doesn't stack but you get 15% vs 5% and the crit can be refreshed, it's better

still valve
visual osprey
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I feel it should be self-explanatory at that point, the players are goaded into buying a class because it's blatantly more powerful than the original four and can easily do what they do, potentially better. The class is gated behind a 12 usd payment.

still valve
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so killing several enemys gives you way more then right?

wind spruce
loud girder
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Also first dlc in 3 years for a game where content is free isn't "whaling"

plucky flax
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You know arby never did more damage than psyker. Was a lot tankier last patch though.

summer prairie
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sure, when you kill hordes the old one was a bit better but you gain too much toughness when you do anyway

visual osprey
loud girder
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  • vt2 had paid classes. Nothing new.
visual osprey
still valve
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when are you ever killing one guy over 5 seconds

summer prairie
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arbi did more damage than a psyker if the whole team was good and there wasn't healing

ornate hamlet
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ayo did they nerf arby

wind spruce
loud girder
loud girder
wind spruce
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is it also predatory marketing if a new cologne smells better than any previous cologne? lol

ornate hamlet
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mildly based

visual osprey
steel flame
visual osprey
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you're allowed to disagree, I believe it's predatory marketing and you don't

summer prairie
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arbi was mostly play tester designed

wind spruce
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you've failed to say how its predatory. no one is being tricked, deceived, mislead, etc

loud girder
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Predatory marketing is asking money for content that took a lot of effort to be made and is literally not more op than a free rework yeah alright

proper osprey
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holy carry

steel flame
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in other news, god it is silly that soulblaze can trigger kinetic flayer

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i can snipe snipers with venting shriek

strong gulch
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If they were working on buffs or class reworks in tandem with arby (which they were), idk why they would release it weaker than the projected state of the game.

I agree that it's op (on launch was so silly).

steel flame
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walls cant hide you anymore, MY MIND POWERS TRANSCEND ALL BARRIERS

subtle temple
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I like this class gimme build recommendations

summer prairie
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shriek kills snipers anyway

wind spruce
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equip good weapon

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profit

steel flame
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yeah but now i can blow their brains out and then burn them to ash

proper osprey
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im soyking it

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ohhhhhh

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just a dream melee soyker

steel flame
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if you want one of those, i can provide

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its glorious 😛

gray juniper
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It’s good on trauma and flamer stick

plucky flax
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Oh wait that was last patch I have not played this patch.

proper osprey
cosmic cobalt
steel flame
cosmic cobalt
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idk how psyker was unplayable

subtle temple
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I like this class because it’s fun

proper osprey
steel flame
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ha

cosmic cobalt
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gun psyker is arguably worse cause mettle nerf but you get pa in return

steel flame
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no it does not

proper osprey
subtle temple
steel flame
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i love confusing people

plucky flax
cosmic cobalt
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fym did no damage

cosmic cobalt
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alao squishy?

plucky flax
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From my observation.

steel flame
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god that clip is gold

plucky flax
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Pls no flame pepesurrender

plucky flax
cosmic cobalt
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that just bad situational awareness 😭

proper osprey
steel flame
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BONK

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Desposito, buff crushers please

summer prairie
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need a bigger font size for cleave!! and maybe make it blink

steel flame
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see the mistake was that he bobbed when he should have weaved

ornate hamlet
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mogged

loud girder
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Dies of death

steel flame
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MY PEOPLE NEED ME

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AWAY

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sigh, zazy is stuck in 20s purgatory after letting his rank decay all the way to 2,

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at least ive found my funny build for havoc now

gray juniper
steel flame
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you see some wierd shit down there

gray juniper
steel flame
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i saw a vet with 6 wounds

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he burned through every single one of them 3 times

gray juniper
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If you’re wondering why it’s 22 points, don’t wonder

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Jokes aside I tried just a dream and it feels too hectic without ER. It’s not for me

steel flame
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god i love dream it feels incredible on fire gs

tiny cove
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Tempted to try out a staff on my melee psyker, going with Kinetic Flayer instead of assail. Whats the Pro/Con for Void Blast vs EK staff for LMB focused builds?

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Seems like EK has a bit more utility on its right click compared to VB?

steel flame
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ek has a better m1

tiny cove
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Oh Ek gets crit bonus as well, that probably clears

steel flame
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its the same for both

tiny cove
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yeah

steel flame
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but ek gets increased crit damage and chance and it applies to the m1

tiny cove
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yeye makes sense

steel flame
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otherwise the m1 is the exact same for trauma, void and electro

pale prairie
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alright I have gotten used to them somewhat

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bet in bigger packs they will be worse though

tiny cove
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Fuck I'm broke again

steel flame
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welcome to psyker life

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or so im told

pale prairie
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pfff i am not broke

steel flame
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some of us come from old money

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back in the good ole days before crafting

pale prairie
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not the crazy 25 million guys but I have a lot of mats

tiny cove
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Time to put on Ordo Docket curious again

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I just shouldn't take them off lol

bright summit
steel flame
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sorry, yeah just crit chance

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we got such lame m1s for our staves compared to sienna

bright summit
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M1 EK m2s a lot more than you think

steel flame
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sienna gets shotguns and machineguns and kungfu fists

pale prairie
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She also doesn’t get a toughness bar

steel flame
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all we get is BALL

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not even big ball

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tiny ball

pale prairie
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Eh the tiny ball is broken as fuck

steel flame
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not as broken as it once was XP

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rip quell cancel

bright summit
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Nah currently patch ek is very overpowered

pale prairie
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Swap cancel is faster

steel flame
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ruined before its time by macro users

steel flame
pale prairie
steel flame
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i could make it work but im not willing to do the rebinds required to do it without wanting to kill myself

patent jacinth
pale prairie
patent jacinth
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Unconditionally

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For every application

pale prairie
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Tell me how you really feel

steel flame
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i have never trusted q swapping in any fatshark game

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that shit is cursed to never work in your time of need

gray juniper
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I’m an ordo millionaire

bright summit
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Guarantee weapon swap <3

gray juniper
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Buts a little plasteel thousandaire

pale prairie
gray juniper
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Absolute poverty house

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I did it tho. I made a non-scriers EK that slaps

steel flame
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Alright you poors, I'm going to bed, try not stink up the place with your destitution please

gray juniper
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My unwashed feet already have

pale prairie
stone totem
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Any brain rupture copers here got the scoop on if it's actually good now

pale prairie
quartz barn
stone totem
wind spruce
stone totem
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It worked, but it definitely was restrictive and didn't feel good

pale prairie
pale prairie
steel flame
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Soul blaze can proc kf now, it's hilarious

pale prairie
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It was just fine. People just didn’t use it

pale prairie
quartz barn
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Even without ep its solid, just not something you avtively use

gray juniper
wind spruce
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Ainz is Ainz

pale prairie
quartz barn
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But lets be honest you never use bb as a main source of dmg, even back on release

steel flame
pale prairie
pale prairie
quartz barn
gray juniper
steel flame
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It does

quartz barn
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Because wildfire kills snipers on its own

stone totem
gray juniper
pale prairie
stone totem
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Not as bad as missing thammer one shots but still

pale prairie
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Like I didn’t actively tell my randomly procing KF to go do that bruh

quartz barn
steel flame
stone totem
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Everything always leads back to soulblaze catDespair

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God I hate soulblaze, wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so ugly

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And obscuring

cosmic cobalt
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soulglaze

quartz barn
cosmic cobalt
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also there mod for that

pale prairie
gray juniper
tiny cove
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I just fought leonidas

gray juniper
tiny cove
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Some Captain just kicked three of us off the map

steel flame
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Never bothered to check before now

tiny cove
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Didn't they change KF to not activate on bursters?

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Or am I halucinating that change

tiny cove
gray juniper
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I swear o swear I swear it wouldn’t proc on bomber pushes

pale prairie
steel flame
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Only time I researched kf was back when Las pistol gunker was stuck in vt2 skill tree times

gray juniper
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But a lot of skeptical non-psyker mains were very leery of siblings

pale prairie
gray juniper
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Wew

steel flame
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Kf was the only way gun psyker could generate warp charges in ye olde times

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Dark days indeed

pale prairie
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So pretty bright honestly

steel flame
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It was back when obscurus force sword was the best force sword

pale prairie
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Haha

jovial juniper
patent jacinth
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Expose your local crusher to the wrath of God (heavy light light)

steel flame
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Just imagine if we still had the old blazing spirit.....5 entire seconds where every attack set enemies on fire

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After every special

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I could cry

radiant frigate
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for a while it was deimos

tacit stump
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i prefer deimos over obscurus

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obscurus just feels weird

deft stump
upper sun
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deimos doesnt feel great now tbh

tacit stump
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i use the ds4 now more often after the shange

radiant frigate
tacit stump
deft stump
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L1 funni vs L3 funni.

cosmic cobalt
upper sun
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yeah but H1 has no cleave and L2 is not great either

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it doesnt do much outside of the L1H2 combo

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special locks on for still too long

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i think it can use some QoL buffs

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maybe a looping H2

tacit stump
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what annoys me most about forceswords are the specials

deft stump
upper sun
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i still want the other attacks to be good

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like after the buffs now H1 doesnt kill enemies anymore 😭

deft stump
tacit stump
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i use h1l2 loop by deimos for medium hordes

upper sun
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illisi needs to be GIGA buffed

tacit stump
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and the other specials rework and illisi aswell like relic or power sabre just with peril

radiant frigate
upper sun
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hell yeah

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also the cleave fixed

quartz barn
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Updating its special is the main thing imo

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Atm its just fgs but worse

tacit stump
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and i dislike personally the psychic overload special from obscurus and deimos

radiant frigate
quartz barn
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And cleave size

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And ranged special

radiant frigate
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it is more mobile however

upper sun
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mfw L1L2qq is the optimal clear for fgs

radiant frigate
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and feels nice whenever you have a moment when going from target to target (so you can obliterate the next one) (otherwise known as regular fgs swing)

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make illisi great again

radiant frigate
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(okay not every swap but still)

tacit stump
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thats why i do 3 slashes with block cancel

cosmic cobalt
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I find the mkviii better tbh

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the st loop is just much faster even if the mkvi h2 does more damage

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also better mixed horde clear

radiant frigate
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but mk6 has immediate access to single target damage from any point in any combo

tacit stump
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and the stab hits really hard

cosmic cobalt
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I mean you can start vii i with either l1 into h2 or force push into stab

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the stab hit hard sure but it also really slow imo

radiant frigate
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right and both of these have a Not Murder opener to them

tacit stump
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dual overhead shain h1->l4->h1

radiant frigate
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mk6 has overhead from neutral, sprint, stab from special, l4 after light combo

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mk8 from sprint has Sweep and Bigger Sweep

cosmic cobalt
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isn't mk6 sprint heavy is a overhead and cleave light

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you might be confused with relic blade lol

radiant frigate
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no i might not

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mk6 sprint heavy is an overhead and it is what i was talking about

cosmic cobalt
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oh nvm i can't read

radiant frigate
cosmic cobalt
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yeah it good but it isn't for me

radiant frigate
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mk6 vs mk8 is, at the end of the day, a question of preference

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(but you're still wrong if you prefer mk8)

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that is all

long saddle
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yeah im doing 6 atm, even if I hate the cancel for the best horde clear

cosmic cobalt
zealous wing
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i love it, because its very versatile for "herding" the horde at the same time

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i can shorten or lengthen the pattern by one to cull one side a little extra, helps movement also

cosmic cobalt
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friendly reminder that push doesn't destroy your wrath stack

zealous wing
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does push attack though?

cosmic cobalt
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yeah no

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as long as you don't miss

icy breach
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then use assail & voidstrike/blast staffs; EK works too; frozen lightining like from GoW or ER pogryn

icy breach
cosmic cobalt
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another wrath w

tacit stump
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i don't use smite

modest perch
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why use wrath ? are you not using warp splitting ?

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(if u dont ur wrong)

snow flint
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So I started playing psyker and now I know what it’s like for a kill to be taken from you when you’re in the middle of popping that kill’s head. It sucks

modest perch
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just wait til u start using dd

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having those kills stolen makes my eye do the twitchy thing

tacit stump
still ingot
cosmic cobalt
tacit stump
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ek is fun witb assail

cosmic cobalt
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but it apply to all weapon with wrath

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also free talent point i guess

still ingot
cosmic cobalt
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wrath is so strong though

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straight up damage blessing in disguise

tacit stump
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uhm you Take wrath cause with staff you have somtimes lower peril while using prolonged meele

cosmic cobalt
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warp splitting is for gunpsyker build anyway

tacit stump
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yeah

cosmic cobalt
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I still prefer assail weave for soulstealer proc over warp ghost

bright summit
cosmic cobalt
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kf is decent on gunpsyker now yeah

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assail still good

bright summit
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on ek i'm not a believer yet you might need to micro it for it to be worth but idk if the attention is worth it at all

wind spruce
wind spruce
summer prairie
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You want passive quelling for weaving

summer prairie
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sometimes by crack of bone is enough but you won't be able to spam assail nearly as much

potent echo
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With warp ghost I feel the need to 1tic quell alot more, before you might passive quell enough to toss 2-3 assails but with warp ghost you need to sprint slide quell alot more

spiral storm
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wtf was the changes to dueling sword?

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reduced armor damage on heavy attacks
Poke changed to parry that has same damage as old heavy attacks

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Psyker gets special hyper push that uses peril?

long saddle
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they tried to nerf it

tacit stump
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the annoying thing is special psyker buff as gunker

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exploded yesterday cause of it while tanking dh in mortis trials

proper osprey
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I can take less damage

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Only damage I took was from my team

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That’s something i need to learn

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I’m so used to doing everything

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As seen above

marble crater
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Barrel your team

proper osprey
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I need to learn how to position where I won’t be fucked by them

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Literally i could have taken 0 damage as tac axe melee psyker

marble crater
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I barreled one of my team by accident yesterday. Game didn't show any outlines or names for a few seconds so I just blew up a barrel in a bunch of enemies, followed by the alert that someone is ledged, oops

marble crater
proper osprey
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It’s getting bursters pushed into me when I’m trying to run away from them

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Or yeah barrels

tacit stump
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pushed yesterday accidentally a burster into a teammate cause of bad positioning in trials

summer prairie
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Was this actually added for Zealot

patent steeple
summer prairie
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sounds quite odd

patent steeple
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btw, is dueling sword still worth using? I swapped to Deimos after the update (Deimos has better/more comfortable horde clear in a pinch)

wraith sphinx
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I use mkv now and it feels so smooth

tribal echo
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anyone have a good new flame staff build for me

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i dont remember what my old one was lol

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also wtf it just deleted my current build

thorn cedar
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Update: walked in to quit my job but learned my manager has been fired, lmao

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I GUESS I'll wait things out a bit

thorn cedar
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Doubt much will change since most of his shittiness was because of demands from higher up and I can only assume he wasn't being shitty enough.

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I should go have myself a nice breakfast somewhere, I'm never up this early on a day off

upper sun
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@marble crater i hate my stupid chuddlife 😭

marble crater
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It was your last chance Guarded

upper sun
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i never check that email 😭

woven sentinel
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Makes no sense that special does not apply SB, my build idea is in shambles 🙁

wraith sphinx
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GeForce Maybe

woven sentinel
thorn cedar
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I did not hate my boss. He got screwed.

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Company broadly is making dumb decisions.

spice oar
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I’ve got two “tank” builds for psyker, one with greatsword being mainly about actually in the thick of it and taking hits, and one with dueling sword where I am too nimble and they struggle to catch me as I pull aggro

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And even if they do, parry womp womp

patent steeple
spice oar
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Mmm well the parry has a unique passive for psykers

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We spend 4% peril to deliver a stronger counter, I’m not sure if that overrides the stamina cost however because I use KD with it

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Go into meat grinder and check

gray juniper
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So does everyone feel like gaze comes back soon as you pop it?

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Ngl the up time is so quick i can’t tell when it’s on or off

patent steeple
zinc phoenix
tacit stump
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i use the right keystone with gaze

spice oar
tacit stump
gray juniper
spice oar
spice oar
gray juniper
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A whole match of gaze never turned off and no worry of exploding at all

zinc phoenix
spice oar
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Unless you wanna quell before you do it each time

spice oar
zinc phoenix
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There are a lot of rough edges to the balancing in this patch

gray juniper
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Gunker has always been goated for the most part

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But yea looking at the numbers oddball is right. Damn I have points to add blaze to this I guess

zinc phoenix
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Hot take but I honestly think no keystone gaze is totally viable

gray juniper
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I’ll just confess, I fuckin hate disrupt destiny

tacit stump
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i like disrupt destiny more crit

gray juniper
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Yea that’s cool

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Then it comes to the rubber meeting the road and I’m chasing specific kills that get snatched by someone else when I could be free range slaughtering

tacit stump
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i use the quell effect since they make it proc 100%

zinc phoenix
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Why?

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BCOB is the same thing but way better

tacit stump
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longer shroud uptime

tall bobcat
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So what perks do I need to take to stop dying from being hit like three times in melee

zinc phoenix
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The critical perk you are missing is “Don’t be Hit”

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It’s tricky to find

spice oar
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I just like the movement speed tbh

gray juniper
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Bro. Gaze has the option 😭

marble crater
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Deflector, 3 +3 stamina curios, stamina on the weapon, block efficiency on curios, Warp Ghost

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Empyric Resolve too

spice oar
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I run sprint efficiency on all my curios

ornate hamlet
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when using the purge staff, when do i wanna focus on spamming normal shots instead of always charging up my attacks?

spice oar
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Vermintide 2 has made me addicted to speeding through enemies

barren dome
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penetration of the soul vs kinetic flayer for the last point on inferno?

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also, can kinetic flayer still proc on bursters?

marble crater
gray juniper
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No keystone gaze: all blaze nodes + souls drinker, PT, mettle, malefic, bcob, EE, dream, one with warp, anticipation, warp rider, warp ghost, vulnerable minds
Gaze: warp speed, precog, unbound

ornate hamlet
gray juniper
marble crater
spice oar
marble crater
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If they attack the zealot in front of you, charge

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Or... Walk away

gray juniper
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Otherwise, be a man and use push attack and duel them one at a time

spice oar
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Leave the blunt to their own

gray juniper
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Walk away is the best option

ornate hamlet
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i love the build a lot, and i love the CC but also i’m having some small issues with boss damage, I guess that’s the trade off

gray juniper
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Yea there is none

marble crater
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Inferno has decent boss damage, for psyker KEKW_ogryn

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Unyielding perk helps

ornate hamlet
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it’s not horrible yeah

tall bobcat
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The best boss dps I've been finding for psyker now is trauma staff + Shout

marble crater
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Can also burn to max stacks then melee or brain burst, then burn again

ornate hamlet
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i usually just switch to dueling sword with uncanny and thrust and poke weak spots on bosses

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usually does more damage anyways

tall bobcat
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Full brittleness + rending on warp attacks from the tree makes bosses chunk down

thorn cedar
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Wait til you discover the power of Laspee shooting them in the head with 80% crit

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Did Reaper HP get adjusted too? Cause if not then it can still one tap them when you're fully juiced.

ornate hamlet
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i think only crushers got buffed yeah?

marble crater
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I don't think so, crushers and lots of scab enemies, right?

ornate hamlet
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even thought DS can still easily two tap crushers, if not more consistently now

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seems like the crusher buff didn’t work well

thorn cedar
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Oh it worked.

marble crater
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Basically scab got buffed KEKW_ogryn

thorn cedar
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Honestly I already didn't lean into building to blow them up but would instead manage with stagger and control. So now there's less of them which makes controlling even easier.

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Doesn't matter if a Crusher has 3600 or 18,000HP if it's never on its feet for more than two seconds.

ornate hamlet
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but if anyone could give any feedback on this build please do so

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is this a solid build for purge staff?

twilit veldt
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question, does stun immunity also affect interruptions? like getting hit while charging XYZ?

thorn cedar
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Yes.

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Fantastic talent that only gets better as you do.

twilit veldt
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perfect

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im doing a smiteker with scryiers gaze

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so im basically always at 100% peril

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words cannot describe how much i love using this thing

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my record rn is ~50 sec long smite

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tho with AM 20% CD reduction modifier i should be able to keep it up indefinitely

icy breach
twilit veldt
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yea wonderful

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sucks ass to have your nonstop smite be interrupted because somehow a single dude got behind you, dealt 0 damage but somehow staggered you out of smiting the 7 billion crushers and maulers

gray juniper
icy breach
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I prefer venting shriek version; more safe & more dmg

sacred crane
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Why smite when trauma exists

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Ooohhhh trauma staff ooohhh

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You shall cast soulblaze thunder oooooohhh

dusk timber
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Cause smite isnt on your ranged weapon slot

twilit veldt
twilit veldt
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luv the blast

sacred crane
twilit veldt
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Saint Celestine speech is shrimply based

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LEND ME YOUR HATE! LEND ME YOUR WRATH! LEND ME YOUR FIRE! PRAISE HIM!

icy breach
twilit veldt
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it is what it is, scriers has a small 2.5% toughness regen (tho that gets kinda lowered via ER) but most toughness will be gained from killing trash mobs with warp kills

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tho i wonder if warp ghost almost negates empyric resolve

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empyric is -30, warp ghost is +25

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if its all just additive, then thats -5% toughness regen for -40% peril generation, +2 stamina and some passive quelling

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not too bad

upper sun
twilit veldt
upper sun
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emma gregory did such a fantastic job id march into war for that woman

merry meteor
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I think they overtuned Disrupt Destiny quite a bit lol

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sorry to be party pooper here, but it so obviously "feeds" you marked targets now I'm not sure it works as intended

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like I see a foe being marked the moment I breath his direction in melee

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Also, I always wondered - do my allies see my targets marked by DD? So, like, they could have chance to not kill them voluntarily? And what happens when two psykers with DD meet, will they be "competing" for marked foes, will there be just 2x more marked foes, each only visible to its "intended" psyker?

jovial juniper
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You don't pick smite with trauma

icy breach
jovial juniper
marble crater
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Yeah, but Warp Ghost would still be a great pick without the toughness part

summer prairie
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rotten healing is absolutely ridiculous, how are you supposed to play it without aoe

icy breach
marble crater
icy breach
#

And the ridiculous phrase ‚Best CC is to kill the enemy’ is pepega take

thorn cedar
#

And yes it's overtuned now but most of the player base is still intimidated by it so, I'll take the free buffs.

summer prairie
thorn cedar
#

are ya winning son

upper sun
#

does fatshark play the same game we do

#

this completely negates any need for me to learn to keep my peril up

mental kayak
mental kayak
#

can you explain

#

is it easier to keep peril to 60 / 70 range

upper sun
mental kayak
#

oh okay

#

so it doen't slow the actual reloading

upper sun
#

no

mental kayak
#

it just keeps it there longer

#

yea that's kinda broken

#

no?

wraith sphinx
#

been a while since I felt like a useless fourth wheel in a match Sitgryn

mental kayak
upper sun
#

it just slows down how long it needs to go down by itself

upper sun
#

first time i play psyker in months with a new build i pullled 700k+ damage in an auric game

thorn cedar
#

I would hardly call it broken.

wraith sphinx
#

@marble crater you will be pleased to know that the crackhead psyker build is even more powerful now

upper sun
wraith sphinx
#

I think every class has a dummy strong talent now

#

or three

#

pathing to warp ghost, WG included gives you essentially the equivalent of +3 stamina curio

merry meteor
#

I thought it's meant for builds that struggle to keep it up? Like it was a perfect addition to my all-rounder psyker build with BB and GS. Previously I had to constantly spam GS's special attack to keep peril up, which was tedious and interfered with my ability to maintain the sword's charge. With WG it's so much more pleasant to play it now.

I don't use GS for my buble knight build though, to benefit more from (buffed) Quietude and to be able to use Assail more freely, without the need to drop Peril before every its use first

wraith sphinx
#

GS? You mean SG?

#

oh greatsword nevermind

merry meteor
wraith sphinx
merry meteor
#

ah

wraith sphinx
#

I'm maining a brain burst gun psyker build now and I have essentially completely eliminated the need to manually quell unless I run out of ammo and have to kill rangeds

wraith sphinx
#

It's so fucking great having warp speed again without it feeling like a point better spent elsewhere

deft stump
lyric burrow
#

Warp ghost is great although sometimes i forget i have it and wonder why i can never throw more than 2 assails when i swap to it

deft stump
ornate hamlet
merry meteor
deft stump
ornate hamlet
wraith sphinx
lyric burrow
#

Ye i use it on melee psyker to stay at 80 or 90 constantly

#

And then dont take crack of bone and whatnot

ornate hamlet
#

i wonder if trauma staff is even more busted now

deft stump
#

Just press and hold X if needed, easy.

lyric burrow
#

Sometimes i gotta Manually quell which is a slight L in havoc

#

But not a huge deal

lyric burrow
#

Havent tested new non melee stuff

#

But i wouldn't be shocked

merry meteor
#

For Warp Ghost, what does "+25% tougness replenishment" mean? Does it add 1/4 to any toughness gains from any sources? Or something more niche?

summer prairie
#

former

patent steeple
#

like, does it actually reduce the -30% to just -5%?

buoyant maple
summer prairie
#

Ok, it doesn't apply to coherency toughness

buoyant maple
#

The only toughness gain modifier that’s multiplicative is the new plasma gunner

thorn cedar
#

Additive, so -5%

summer prairie
#

the +25% is additive while -30% is a multiplier. I think it may be (1+0.25)*0.7

#

toughness_replenish_modifier vs toughness_replenish_multiplier

thorn cedar
#

Yeah it's a bit weird.

#

And Momentum blessing is unaffected for reasons

#

Irish Coffee for breakfast. Nice way to start a weekend.

spiral storm
#

Is warpghost good?

#

seems kinda like a node you would only take if you're gunker

thorn cedar
#

yea kinda

thorn cedar
#

great even

spiral storm
#

For general use or gunker

thorn cedar
#

but do agree its somewhat niche

icy breach
#

Cause its keeping your buffs

spiral storm
#

oh okay

#

helps you edge

icy breach
#

I think considering almost always you manually quell

spiral storm
#

Wait that just makes me think

icy breach
#

The ‚downside’ is actualy a boon

spiral storm
#

like the only time I'm using manual quell is When I'm at like 96% or whatever % depending on staff

#

when you just finished using an attack, you won't passively quell

#

so like... does the -passive quell actually do much?

trail orbit
#

If yall made another psyker staff OR made staff marks what would it be?

spiral storm
#

I mean, the extra stamina and toughness gain is still huge

thorn cedar
#

It's atill +2 stam and toughness replen yeah

#

But if you already have very easy means to generate peril or generating lots of peril is already a default cost of your standard combat loop then the -80% is kinda irrelevant

summer timber
#

is it just me or do the servers feel worse?

icy breach
summer timber
#

like i feel like im disconnecting a lot more and having rubber banding issues

spiral storm
summer timber
icy breach
#

So ye its bad

summer timber
#

Ok im glad im not the only one then

spiral storm
#

I would like to see a return of the beam staff

summer timber
#

Like multiple times throughout the mission usually

icy breach
#

So worse

deft stump
summer timber
#

Oh ya cuz it counts as abandoning the match

deft stump
summer timber
deft stump
#

Up and ended itself at the finale.

summer timber
#

I don't have this latency issues with other games

summer timber
#

Fumbling my teams..

deft stump
summer timber
#

At this point, definitely

#

Also

#

One more gripe with this update....

quartz barn
#

Also really depends on where youre from

#

For whatever reason aus always gets shafted when it comes to servers

summer timber
#

all 1,000 of these voice lines but not a single one for the new plasma gunner

summer timber
loud girder
#

bots not taking health charges is fucking huge

#

mortis duo finally playable

summer timber
#

i think the servers just shitting itself

upper sun
summer timber
deft stump
summer timber
#

trust me guys

#

those two things are literally my only 2 complaints of this update

#

otherwise its fantastic

#

basically every class got a massive buff

quartz barn
#

But i also have a couple mods that improve things in the background so unless its the servers are down error i dont notice anything

deft stump
quartz barn
#

Yes but you have the asian connection

#

Unless its scuffed on those servers as well

radiant frigate
lyric burrow
#

My games run fine mostly although yesterday our havoc match randomly dced everyone

deft stump
#

Was surprised when I went down to malice to do shroudfield backstab kills, there was someone.

#

It's not a playstyle I like so just doing lower diffs.

spiral storm
#

what's the meta way to build trauma

#

nexus blazing?

zealous wing
#

asking for meta so soon after a major rework is wild

#

we are still hunting bud

upper sun
#

blazing trauma is always meta

#

ALWAYS

spiral storm
#

they just shuffled around the nodes

upper sun
zealous wing
#

it means shit works better, for cheaper

spiral storm
#

yeah but the meta staffs are unlikely to change

zealous wing
#

i think six was doing some basic template stuff tho for staves

jovial juniper
#

It would do nothing

#

But people will argue

#

"fun"

#

And the staff would still be doing nothing

#

That being said

#

Give me beam staff

#

With machine gun m1

spiral storm
#

The duality of man

patent mango
#

when do they make surge staff awesome

lyric burrow
#

Its extremely likely blaze trauma is still top 1 or purge

lyric burrow
#

(Not really that shit was ass)

wraith sphinx
jovial juniper
wraith sphinx
#

upending the build meta isn't just reshuffling nodes

spiral storm
#

?

#

upending is an exageration

wraith sphinx
#

did you not read the patch notes or something

#

don't be dense

spiral storm
#

we're still just building burn with trauma or puge

trail orbit
wraith sphinx
#

"we"

spiral storm
#

it's the same builds, we just have a few extra points for taste

wraith sphinx
#

you couldn't be more wrong

trail orbit
spiral storm
#

Perilous combustion, brian rupture, Souldrinker, Wildfire, seer's presence, psykinetic, One with warp, Bubble shield, Warprider, empyric resolve, warpsiphon

trail orbit
spiral storm
#

same build before and after

deft stump
trail orbit
patent mango
#

the staves are kinda eepy ngl i wish they had more to them

trail orbit
#

The staff can't shoot ever high but latterally has some distance

plucky flax
#

Just did 1.2mil in 26mins auric game after 2+ weeks no play. No rust I guess.

#

(Or psyker op now)

wraith sphinx
wraith sphinx
patent mango
plucky flax
#

27:16 according to scoreboard mod.

#

The other psyker stole my soulblaze. Kapp

spiral storm
#

Neat

#

were you running scriers edging?

#

wait nvm, creeping flames

wraith sphinx
deft stump
plucky flax
trail orbit
wraith sphinx
#

my favourite psyker gimmic went from being a barely workable meme to shredding it in maelstrom no problem

#

I even managed to beat havoc 21 so far with it

spiral storm
#

Maelstrom

upper sun
plucky flax
wraith sphinx
#

will continue to attempt beating harder havocs when I feel like it again

trail orbit
upper sun
plucky flax
#

👏

upper sun
#

run ahead and press F chadgryn

#

even if you dont have 86 peril

quartz barn
#

Doesnt matter, your cd is really low anyway

#

Keep chaining for more sb theft

plucky flax
#

Do I still get +3 havoc rank if I clear a much higher map than my own rank?

wraith sphinx
#

I think so yes

trail orbit
wraith sphinx
#

that part should not have been changed

plucky flax
#

Anyone with h40 inv me please. PeepoHappy

#

@summer prairie

lyric burrow
#

Think so

plucky flax
#

I am rank 30 noob wanting to learn.

trail orbit
quartz barn
spiral storm
trail orbit
upper sun
spiral storm
trail orbit
quartz barn
#

Run surge on voidblast for a double explosion thumbsup_ogryn

spiral storm
#

removed or use as a dump stat?

deft stump
trail orbit
upper sun
spiral storm
#

mobility

plucky flax
#

Dump damage so you can spam staff more.

trail orbit
quartz barn
plucky flax
#

This guy got all 76 it's peaked.

spiral storm
#

oof, my havoc is dropped to 10

wraith sphinx
#

It's peak

spiral storm
#

haven't touched havoc in like 3 weeks

pale matrix
#

crap T_T

plucky flax
#

Bruh I hate it when I created my havoc party then the people i invited to it just randomly inv others.

#

My party I choose ppl I play with. nooooo

deft stump
quartz barn
cosmic cobalt
#

set it to private bvruh

plucky flax
deft stump
#

Because I had teammates with damage but act like lemmings who dunno objectives.

quartz barn
#

Get invited to h40, then fren invite so the accept doesnt show up lmao chadgryn

#

Host rarely knows it even happened

plucky flax
#

Sneaky bugger.

quartz barn
#

Ye everyone gets to interact with the party finder requests

#

And if you directly invite people theres no notif either

plucky flax
#

I got a gazer voidstrike psyker on my team.

#

Pog

quartz barn
#

Mfw i hijack some poor solos lobby

#

Invite 2 friends

#

Kick original host

copper jay
#

SO HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT NEW PSYKER ?

spiral storm
#

iz cul

upper sun
copper jay
zealous wing
#

probably not tbh

upper sun
#

idk what they were smoking when they made it

patent mango
#

we're lucky if we get like a single nerf nowadays

spiral storm
#

mostly just counteracts empyric

upper sun
#

i dont think theyre gonna nerf it any time soon

zealous wing
#

it still goes down enough you have to maintain if youre traveling a decent ways but, room to room its glorious

spiral storm
#

also +2 stamina

zealous wing
#

ye and above it, the small node, is +1 stam

#

free stam curio

#

which means i no longer have to struggle to decide what curio for berpsyker

spiral storm
#

pretty easy to grab since it's below warp rider

deft stump
copper jay
zealous wing
#

im loving SG

patent mango
#

needs more text

spiral storm
#

It's very goofy

#

scriers gaze infinite edging

deft stump
deft stump
brave sandal
#

Oh no

zealous wing
#

burn the heretic

#

( i like your pfp :( )

brave sandal
#

Want a moustache? Really add character to things

zealous wing
#

that is true

#

it does work KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
zealous wing
#

that also works

deft stump
#

Or like 13 bees/shards?

brave sandal
#

A krak for a nose

#

Sounds like that one Borderland guy

deft stump
zealous wing
#

discount psyker

weary crane
#

Anyone know how to make loud sounds quieter and quiet sounds louder? I thought the night mode audio preset did this but it doesn't seem to make a difference loregryn

deft stump
zealous wing
#

a krak attached to someones face

#

ie, headsplosion

#

not a super funny joke, im still booting up

spiral storm
#

gaze, lmb is certainly.. a thing

deft stump
zealous wing
#

it would be deserved tbh

copper jay
#

What are your favorite weapon with this patch so far ?

royal totem
#

Hexis will carry me one day

patent steeple
zealous wing
copper jay
royal totem
#

Im sadly really busy the next few days

deft stump
zealous wing
#

i can, but not high difficulities

deft stump
#

You know I mean aurics.

#

Or well, damnation.

zealous wing
#

yeah if im warmed up i could do at least an ok job

royal totem
#

Dun let hexis trick you. He carries aurics easily

zealous wing
#

but like, heresy i can keep everyone alive

#

usually

#

unless they're like

#

mega dumb

deft stump
#

To the point they forget I need ammo as well...

zealous wing
#

yeah...

deft stump
#

So I lived on 77 bullets and survivalist to carry them.

zinc phoenix
royal totem
#

Karien can have all my bullets

deft stump
#

Duh.

#

And snipers.

zinc phoenix
zealous wing
#

for me its monsters

royal totem
#

more like i just dont need bullets

zealous wing
#

or reapers, sometimes gunners to proc EE

#

nothing more fun of a feeling tbh then seeing literally 10 reapers in an alley and i just fucking walk out and start shooting, and i see the others hiding in cover or like, trying to run up to them to melee them or something, probably thinking im insane

deft stump
zealous wing
#

like, they're all getting ready for a showdown and im just "haha gun go brr"

royal totem
#

I was playing EK last night

deft stump
#

And I still remember a newbie spamming ammo pings at me

royal totem
#

Think hexis was already off to bed though

zealous wing
#

yeah i mightve been, or just irl stuff

deft stump
thorn cedar
zinc phoenix
#

every vet should glue smoke nades to their build

zealous wing
#

that walkway is my favourite

zinc phoenix
#

theyre so good

#

why would anyone use anything else

zealous wing
#

because smoke grenades are annoying imo, the enemies cant see shit but neither can i KEKW_ogryn

royal totem
#

Im in a really awk timezone to play with ppl

gray juniper
#

Probably a “save my own ass” move

zinc phoenix
#

its so good

zealous wing
#

ive not really had issue with them yet

gray juniper
royal totem
#

I...am in us west

deft stump
gray juniper
#

You have all USA and Australia to play with

zealous wing
upper sun
zealous wing
#

about 100 ping for me, dunno about yours

royal totem
#

Us east norms off to bed when i play

gray juniper
#

The 50 players in Australia beg to differ

deft stump
gray juniper
regal pumice
#

wtf is a critical attack, a hit?

zealous wing
jovial juniper
deft stump
royal totem
jovial juniper
#

Body hit
Critical body hit
Weakspot hit
Critical Weakspot hit

royal totem
#

I joke that hexis can tell me the future

regal pumice
jovial juniper
#

Nope

gray juniper
#

Goodbye karien. I’ll see you when they remove plasma gunners

jovial juniper
#

It's a weakspot hit

deft stump
jovial juniper
#

Criticals are just rolling a dice for a chance of better damage

deft stump
gray juniper
#

I think they’re in regular matches just less

#

Idk I quick play everything

cinder veldt
deft stump
zealous wing
#

damn bro had the audacity to post an arbititty build in psyker chat

deft stump
gray juniper
#

Arbites is dead bro. No one wants to hear about that PLAYED OUT class

jovial juniper
gray juniper
#

Git gud

upper sun
regal pumice
#

Do you guys consider this a mandatory pick?

gray juniper
#

We are dicks btw

upper sun
#

critical hits are random increased damage

zealous wing
#

i can check the video archive of the tree

upper sun
zealous wing
regal pumice
jovial juniper
upper sun
#

is the 10% damage forever or on high peril

jovial juniper
#

Forever

upper sun
#

is the 4 second for the activation or what

#

is the stun immunity forever or at high peril

jovial juniper
#

On critical peril you get 4 seconds

#

Of stun immunity

upper sun
#

4 seconds of WHAT

#

ah

regal pumice
#

10% damage reduction is kinda good

upper sun
#

sounds cringe

zealous wing
#

stun immunity

regal pumice
#

what even is a stun

upper sun
plucky flax
#

Okay my damage was low because the other psyker was blazing voidstrike nooooo

#

I got my soulblaze stolen.

#

Karma I guess.

upper sun
zealous wing
#

wtf even is sb stealing no one explained

upper sun
#

or when someone attacks you and you cancel out of doing something

#

like healing/puzzle etc

regal pumice
jovial juniper
plucky flax
#

It's just meme.

jovial juniper
#

At critical peril you're stun Immune

plucky flax
#

As long as you win scoreboard damage is meaningless.

jovial juniper
#

After dropping from critical peril you're stun Immune for 4 seconds

zealous wing
#

wait a fucking second

#

it works on data interro

#

??

jovial juniper
#

Critical Peril is 97%

zealous wing
#

because if it works on datainterrogation i might actually take it

jovial juniper
#

But

#

Tg breaking interruption might still apply while interrogating

zealous wing
#

yeah but the single pxxer sneaking behind me would be less annoying

jovial juniper
#

Needs more testing

thorn cedar
lyric burrow
#

But its mostly a meme

plucky flax
zealous wing
#

also, t breaking affects revives and all so id imagine its still there as a "dont fucking die you moron" mechanic

upper sun
zealous wing
#

yeah but how is that stealing if its first come first serve situation

#

or is that the joke

upper sun
thorn cedar
#

It always works while you're at 97%+ and will continue to work for four seconds after you dip below 97%. Passive Quelling takes 3 seconds to kick in and if you have Warp Ghost it's something like 9ish seconds of stun immunity with no additional input from you.

The 10% DR is always active.

upper sun
#

i get all the kills

sacred crane
#

Ok siblings Ive use inferno and trauma builds well enough this rework
Which build should I use next

thorn cedar
zealous wing
#

i would need just one more point scrounged from somewhere

thorn cedar
#

pictured: you listening to me simp mind in motion against ur will

sacred crane
#

Psyker no boltgun

zealous wing
#

you fine with a bonkers build that somehow works? im curious if its just a me thing

jovial juniper
#

Oh you can revive people on fire now

zealous wing
royal totem
sacred crane
#

wat is fgs

zealous wing
#

basically, you'd be frontline capable, even prefferably

sacred crane
#

Every frontline psyker I see is a melee psykee

zealous wing
#

this is melee / monsterkiller / kill everything

thorn cedar
#

There's no real frontline staff.

#

Trauma is like, midline at best.

royal totem
#

Force Great Sword

sacred crane
#

Trauma <3

spiral storm
#

We need more staffs, desperately

thorn cedar
#

We need that shotgun staff from VT2

spiral storm
#

trauma is the only fun staff

sacred crane
#

LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN FATSHARK

regal pumice
#

why do people in havoc on psykur run max health adn wounds

thorn cedar
#

wounds huh

spiral storm
thorn cedar
#

health makes sense though

regal pumice
spiral storm
#

health lets you survive a pox burster though

sacred crane
#

Health makes sense
Wounds dont

zealous wing
#

yeah health makes sense, wounds is probably them thinking, "if i go down i can keep playing" not "if i had toughness instead i'd not need the wounds"

thorn cedar
#

sadly we can no longer spec to survive a mauler overhead in H40

sacred crane
#

Only zealots have an excuse to run wounds