psyker-class

[strong gulch]

Not a lot. Unless you farm them.

"Feck it, I'll just baby sit the ritual DH. We don't even have to go over there."

[supple escarp]

what is a warp attack kill is that anything other than melee and guns

[marble crater]

Anything that generates peril, including melee kills with force sword special

[royal totem]

Ive never understood exactly what force sword special doed

[strong gulch]

11.5s

12s will kill you.

There is an SG buff icon on the bottom of the screen (red square with a skull), audio cue, and rays around the edge of the screen that indicate when WU (warp unbound) are over. Vid here. #psyker-class message

There are mods that help track it. Also counting to 10s is an option.

Can be hard to pay attention too.

[strong gulch]

more or less

warp attack includes force melee special and push attack too

[thick valve]

would you def rec WU whenever you have scriers gaze?

[marble crater]

Depends on the sword, only really great to use on illisi and greatsword, for more cleave and damage incase of illisi and the warp slach incase of greatsword

[strong gulch]

For most people yes.

[royal totem]

Ahm ty!

[pale prairie]

had a game just now lights out auric event. Killed 15 plasma and 5 snipers that downd the one player and 2 bots. Ran forward to res and literally 5 lasers popped onto my chest when it was just darkness.

you cursed me

[marble crater]

lol, lmao even

deserved

[pale prairie]

IFuck you I clutched the next one

[marble crater]

[royal totem]

Lmao

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mind-enigma-spilled-milk-gif-14172730

[rapid steeple]

Just tried this build out on havoc, very fun

I like spamming shriek lol

[regal pumice]

Should I take maniac over one of these

[modest perch]

unyielding over flak tbh

[gray juniper]

Nope. I tried to warn you

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean fgs already does great unyielding damage

flak help with mixed horde

[strong gulch]

I finally did one of the event missions. Luckily it wasn't cursed.

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

Awesome!

[knotty nest]

Does parrying with the DS cause anyone else to gain peril but not with the devils claw? I've overloaded a few times in matches parrying with the DS, but when I'd test both the DS and devils claw in the psykhanium, only the DS would cause me to gain peril

[royal totem]

Sometimes i want more people to play eith. Lmao

[bleak maple]

For EP why do we have a node for elite guarantee but no special guarantee?

[marble crater]

It's specific to the DS

It's a feature, not a bug.

[strong gulch]

Yes. Working as intended. DS parry build peril.

[tall bobcat]

Aight did the Trauma staff get buffed at some point post launch

Cos it's awesome now

[knotty nest]

oooh, I had no idea if it was intentional or not. thanks for answering 🤝

[strong gulch]

Yes. It doesn't build as mush peril as it did on launch, blazing spirit has T4 now, and it's easier to get enemies with the epicenter.

Be careful of barrels tho

[marble crater]

Or not...

[regal pumice]

My boss damage should be fine, will probably just use recon lasgun

[strong gulch]

If either the barrel's radius or VB's / trauma's radius overlap, BOOM

[gray juniper]

Yes no er

[marble crater]

Ew

[tall bobcat]

Finally

Thank you Trauma staff

[gray juniper]

Trying bcob and other nodes test

[royal totem]

Instant boom not just light on fire?

[strong gulch]

It's also for oggy enemies.

[regal pumice]

Got the new goated perk though

[strong gulch]

Ignite then boom

[bleak maple]

Didn't they make the warp battery penance easier?

[royal totem]

Ah k

Just double checking

[marble crater]

They did lower the time, yes

[bleak maple]

My ass did the 300s like 2 weeks before it changed, what did they even change it to

[marble crater]

Less than that

[royal totem]

[bleak maple]

They should make it 5 minutes again and cause mass panic from psykers

[lost jewel]

120s i think. I did it this morning

[bleak maple]

BRUH

[royal totem]

5 mins till im off

[tall bobcat]

This used to be 90%?

[verbal thistle]

yes

[lost jewel]

Im still stuck on the cliffhanger penace :(

[royal totem]

Which is cliffhanger?

[lost jewel]

No pubs are willing to let me solo a bridge for what ever reason

[bleak maple]

Oh ah I have the mission for dis

[lost jewel]

pushing 7 enemies to their death in 2s

[royal totem]

Clandestine gloriana

[tall bobcat]

I got that on the uh, investigation mission w/the 2 bridges leading to the final control room

[royal totem]

I actually got cliffhanger by accident on the torrent upload bad intel mission

[bleak maple]

Yes this! with smite pushing

[royal totem]

With trauma staff

[bleak maple]

Smite a bunch of enemies on bridge then look left or right and let go and they'll just fly off

[royal totem]

Ill let you solo a bridge lmao

[bleak maple]

I can't remember the mission just the torrent iirc

[royal totem]

Yeah its torrent i dont remember the name either

Most of my fav missions are in the torrent

[tall bobcat]

Love the aestetic

HATE the barrels which punt me 5 miles into bottomless pits

[marble crater]

Vigil Station

[bleak maple]

Smelter complex, lights out
❤️

[royal totem]

,my least favorite are all in one zone

[lost jewel]

Bruh, sire melks requisitorium just reset as i was about to buy something

[tall bobcat]

I've also just found the trauma staff deals with plasma gunners nicely 🙂

[marble crater]

Was it a curio?

[lost jewel]

a nice force sword

had + crit chance

[bleak maple]

Is it the hourglass?

[marble crater]

That's not too bad, crafting weapons is very easy now

[royal totem]

Yes its the hourglass

[royal totem]

They probs dont have the resources

[lost jewel]

You can craft weapons?

[ripe obsidian]

Happy 7PM CST. Adjust for your timezone

[random spruce]

Is it just me or did the HP increases on all enemies make the inferno crit trauma builds way less viable this patch?

[ripe obsidian]

It is just you

[royal totem]

You buy a bunch from armory and check for stats

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno and Trauma are both still top of the pile

[marble crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxShYmKrKFg

[random spruce]

That's not what I meant

I'm saying the flame on trauma crit builds

[lost jewel]

lmao thanks. Theres a lot to this game i seemly dont know and understand

[royal totem]

Oh i love watching Ryken vids

[random spruce]

As in fire trauma no longer seems worth it over armor break trauma

[ripe obsidian]

Ah. Blazing Spirit. Stronger than before.

Can get more crit chance more easily

And Wildfire is not competing against PA

[marble crater]

I can't believe I am using Souldrinker now

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-frozen-elsa-hands-palm-gif-16527189

[random spruce]

Huh, felt like I was getting faster ttks on elite with the rending Shockwave without losing much horde clear with shriek. Idk though maybe just some bad games

[ripe obsidian]

Rending is also good.

Different goals.

[ripe obsidian]

Drink up.

[pale prairie]

DoTs are always king when enemies get fat health buffs cause other weapon breakpoints get harder but you just need a few more seconds on the stacks of DoTs

[ripe obsidian]

Soulblaze is generally stronger this patch for some absurd reason. I mean, I know the mechanical reason. I don't know why Fatshark did it

[bleak maple]

They made it so you don't gotta stretch like 5 nodes for a good blaze build

[royal totem]

My psyker build is bleed dots and flame dots

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-gif-22700131

[pale prairie]

I think they just "didn't touch" weapons but most of our "buff" is making talents less taxing AND CRAZY DR BUFFS

oh also ghost but I mean thats a convenience for high performing psykers

[bleak maple]

Didn't they also make the peril explosion passive better?

[random spruce]

Second question if you take warp ghost with empyric does that cancel out into one 5% less toughness gen

Idk why that was a reply, that was a mistake lol

[pale prairie]

does more damage and if you KILL an elite with it you don't take any Purple damage

[bleak maple]

Yeye

[marble crater]

[bleak maple]

OH YEAH

[pale prairie]

literally saw someone use it offensively to clear space once he already damaged the mixed horde with soulblaze

[random spruce]

I feel like that's busted on trauma builds, I get to cast more AND not give up my toughness

[pale prairie]

alright i need more captains to spawn this is taking forever

[bleak maple]

Real talk anyone got a good use for this besides manual peril control?

[marble crater]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1nq982r/look_at_me_heretics_i_am_the_burster_now/

[bleak maple]

Do the mortis trials they're spawning a lot in there

[pale prairie]

They claimed to want to bring everyone up to ogryn and Arbites level cause they are scared to nerf the PAID DLC CLASS

enjoy being Arbites

[pale prairie]

Stamina replaces need for KD or stamina curio. Toughness Replenishment AFFECTS ALL TALENTS THAT GEN TOUGHNESS

[random spruce]

Well, I don't really feel like we're arbites level. Not nearly. I can listen to podcasts and ahit while playing arbites and still top scoreboard. I cannot do that on psyker.

[lapis fern]

When up against captains are you better off just using melee or are certain blitzs/staffs better?

[pale prairie]

Yeah they are still cranked. They touched Ogryn more than arbites

[marble crater]

The Arby in my last game was complaining about being nerfed

[bleak maple]

Hear me out

[random spruce]

If fatshark added molten beam staff and made it do BEEG DAMOOJ to bosses and big elites I would be happy and never ask for another buff or change on psyker again.....maybe...

[pale prairie]

Lmao what the fuck

[dusk void]

Is KD bad now?

[pale prairie]

It isn’t you just can get +3 stamina from the tree now and there’s lots of DR talents. So still good but maybe less of a MUST PICK

[ripe obsidian]

No. Just harder to justify

[marble crater]

EU Arby players, what can you do

[pale prairie]

“ I didn’t get buffed so therefore I am nerfed”

[random spruce]

Kevin Durant has never been good

[pale prairie]

Damn that name takes me back

[bleak maple]

Question, how does this actually work? can I ignore 1/4 chip?

[dusk void]

Can I take vulnerable minds instead of KD for a trauma knife build?

[ripe obsidian]

Sure.

It's mostly the extra stamina from Warp Ghost that makes me drop KD.

[royal totem]

I do feel like listening to this chat complain about a class being good or bad is...kinda bad though. I mean in the wilds i see soooo many bad arbites and few good ones. Im not saying whether they should be nerfed or not. Im just arguing good players are better at exploiting the good things of classes much more than the average player

[dusk void]

Wait, 45% more damage to monstrosities? Imma give it a try later

[ripe obsidian]

45%?

[random spruce]

Yes, BUT have you considered we are all psyker players and therefore our class is infinitely worse and our skills infinitely better than all of them, so we're always right

[dusk void]

25% from perks, 20% on talent tree

[royal totem]

sorry as usual im the dumb sibling of the bunch. Ill see myself out

[ripe obsidian]

I believe it is multiplicative, so 40%. But still solid.

[fierce crest]

do we tend to have more base crit chance than before?

[ripe obsidian]

Small crit node is now mandatory.

[pale prairie]

Oh for sure the complains about power creep are something to be worried about IF they trend this way. HOWEVER the perspectives of the people arguing in here are extremely biased by their own personal skill and build crafting

[royal totem]

Going from psyker to arbites is so ez lmao

[marble crater]

No u

[random spruce]

I would never dare to play a blunt class 🤢 .......much

[pale prairie]

Don’t worry Sut you don’t count

[royal totem]

Im not arguing trends are unconcerning or that nerfs arent in order. In fact they may be.

[dusk void]

More damage for me then

[pale prairie]

If you use soulblaze than souldrinker gives that yes

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-the-count-the-count-sesame-street-laughing-laugh-gif-15452219526891068818

[royal totem]

Ive seen arbites need 3 wound curios though....

[pale prairie]

I am seeing more martyr zealots. The world is healing

[royal totem]

Whenever in damnation you see somebody with like 2 or 3 wound curios...they need them

[marble crater]

I'm seeing Lights Out Silo Cluster, healing indeed

I predict we won't make it to the first med station

[icy breach]

Very true

[pale prairie]

Honestly probably nerfs would be healthy as long as the spawns and enemy stats are accounted for. And ALL CLASSES (arbites) felt them

[royal totem]

Though i do feel like...it wont happen

[pale prairie]

Damn but the event is a real reality check. I am really liking the skill checks of this event and last

[pale prairie]

We will see I am hoping that any tweaking now is scaling stuff back.

[indigo thunder]

How does Psyker feel after changes? I am contemplating to redownload the game

[icy breach]

I hope thats sarcastic

[pale prairie]

They made peril edging easier. Build pathing easier. And added a bunch of bonuses towards meleeker and slightly gunker/staffker

[royal totem]

It would be nice for everything to be scaled back across the board. Enemy health included but...m

I aint hoping

[icy breach]

Staffker; i like this work

[pale prairie]

Oh papa it’s important for pubs to learn about bursters and also how to use cover in lights out/vent purge

[icy breach]

Even in havoc ppl don’t do that…

[royal totem]

Its important for people to learn about barrels

on gloriana

[indigo thunder]

Still squishy as hell?

[pale prairie]

Havoc isn’t for learning it’s for punching yourself in the genitals repeatedly until you see a win screen then go brag on discord about yellow numbers.

[pale prairie]

Oh my word no. The middle of the tree is a bunch of dr talents

[icy breach]

Maybe for you; i’m enjoying myself

[pale prairie]

And they added some strong toughness gen stuff

[pale prairie]

I didn’t say I didn’t enjoy it

[indigo thunder]

Great. Getting to death door after being hit once by poxwalker wasn't fun

[icy breach]

You get that due to plasma gunners

As any class

[pale prairie]

I actually sought out that map for event cause it was funny/WHY IS THIS MAP SO HARD

[indigo thunder]

At least they are specials/elites. That's to be expected

[pale prairie]

Was a good counter to toughness buffs

[icy breach]

You haven’t fought them; you yet do not know

[indigo thunder]

What do plasma gunnerd do? Just hit hard?

[pale prairie]

They are elites so they spawn I. Shotgun numbers

[icy breach]

I would not say its good

Its poorly executed

[pale prairie]

Oh it needs some tweaking for sure. But it is a funny “think your tough huh?” Hammer

[royal totem]

If you instantly jump down the startm..you get hit by 10 poxbursters

[icy breach]

Yes… they also have relatively high hp and barely any non meta counters

[indigo thunder]

Exterminator shotgun goes brrrr

[pale prairie]

I remember just sitting in the tunnel waiting 5 minutes for the train of bursters to stop

[still ingot]

honestly they just need better distinctions from other specials and theyd be like, okay

[royal totem]

I did thst too!

[pale prairie]

Yeah 15 at once with snipers is a spicy cocktail

[still ingot]

they look like grunts and mix into ambience way too easily

[indigo thunder]

barely any non meta counters? I am not understanding the phrasing

[icy breach]

I like stuff that are challenging; plasma gunners are not challenging; they are unfair in their balancing

[pale prairie]

And NO unique lines. At least I haven’t heard too many

[royal totem]

They dont seem to

[still ingot]

and absolutely no way of knowing if one is aiming to shoot at you

[icy breach]

Book stagger
Bubble
Attention seeker slab shield ogryn
Thats it

[pale prairie]

Sprint at them and pray they pull their swords

[icy breach]

Sometimes thats not possible

Or should i say; more often than that

[pale prairie]

You do! It’s that tingle at the back of your neck right before death

[pale prairie]

Yeah my solution has been if close charge. If far pull out recon las and lean on EE and lots of bullets

[icy breach]

My solution is

SMITE

If only you would see what we faced tonight

[still ingot]

i hate the suppression immunity more than anything

[pale prairie]

I am not certain but I think assail staggers them

[icy breach]

You should come one day & watch @pale prairie

[still ingot]

they can be staggered but suppression is just a no go

[pale prairie]

Watch you get firing squad by plasma? I am in

[pale prairie]

Truth

[still ingot]

ek psyker is a hard counter to them fortunately

[icy breach]

Smite really but its funny; very cozy

[pale prairie]

? LMB and EE?

[icy breach]

However today was… dogshit…

[still ingot]

empathic evasion m1 spam using qq cancel to get through bulwarks hiding them

[pale prairie]

Get a rock put on mouse go make a sandwich. Done

[still ingot]

ive been routinely having to clutch games where im the last one standing after pgunners shred our team that isnt EE psyker

[icy breach]

2/3 games everyone crashed and counted as a loss; lost a lv to that

[pale prairie]

Oooooooof

[still ingot]

yah basically

[icy breach]

I know its funny but in grneral smiting ain’t as easy as ppl think

[pale prairie]

I have heard havoc is having issues. I am waiting for hopefully some stability patches

[gray juniper]

General comment; Stop saying “broken” “busted” disgusting” about every single thing that changes

[pale prairie]

Yep I’ve done that twice today

[still ingot]

seems like when a lot of enemies stimm the game tanks performance

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[gray juniper]

I hate when people fuck up things to extreme nerf or buff only because they don’t have a grasp on more moderate adjectives

[pale prairie]

That makes sense

[still ingot]

bless up autodesk stingray 🙏

[icy breach]

Yeah i hope tomorrow will be better but if issues continue i eon’t bother; its actualy pissing me off to lose a match right before the final event cause everyone crashed to windows

[pale prairie]

Oh I know it isn’t. You’re a sitting fucking duck

[still ingot]

you see the trick is to use smite only for bursters by tapping them away with m1 and literally nothing else

[pale prairie]

Can’t do it. It’s the hardcore PVE player slang

[still ingot]

or quad stack full smite for bonus funny

[gray juniper]

NEEEERRDSS

[still ingot]

chat is this final toll

[icy breach]

I prefer goose

Geese are cute

[pale prairie]

Yeah I know I used to smite. It was bubble smite and voidstrike on my first build. Then I did EK LMB SG spam. Then I went EK shriek spam. And now I am trying to get a hang of meleeker

[pale prairie]

I dunno the goose game showed me their true evil

[icy breach]

They are humorous honkers

[pale prairie]

It’s crazy that it deranks for that

[icy breach]

With attitude

[still ingot]

scriers DD pre patch with ek in havocs is just as good if not better than shriekspam into certain modifers (or just in general really)

[icy breach]

Ye we lost 2 times due to that

And one was a legit loss

So we deranked to 30

[still ingot]

shriek is more generalist and scriers dd was more single target focused

[icy breach]

After that i said enough

[pale prairie]

Yeah the LMb SG phase was tryhard havoc attempts then I relaxed and just wanted to shoot lightning and fire

[still ingot]

pleasant duo if u had double ek shriek and scriers

who needs frontliners when the frontline doesnt exist

[pale prairie]

Truth

[icy breach]

Ye Smite

[royal totem]

There's also a sad fact most game companies bad at nerfs. So tend to break more things with nerfs than worth lol

[icy breach]

Arguably; Smite is a frontline ranged melee class

[still ingot]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f8a9d87-83d8-4177-ac6e-5e9f513a02b0/updated-havoc-40-staff-psyker-meta-electrokinetic-staff-type-build

[gray juniper]

This is a lot of fun with ek and fgs

[still ingot]

her and i putting out a video guide this week

[icy breach]

Could be better

[pale prairie]

I am putting down the staffs for a bit cause I have 500 hours just in staffker but I’ll definitely check the video out when it’s ready!

[arctic turret]

vile

[still ingot]

elaborate, im curious what you think abt it

[icy breach]

Thunder Hammer never felt better to use

[pale prairie]

When testing between Leeching and In fire reborn. What was the difference in stack gain did you find?

[still ingot]

thammer was awesome pre patch but was pretty tough to use effectively consistently when scaling into havocs

[gray juniper]

lol nah no video just fun on my own

[icy breach]

Lol no; it was really good even with old zel tree; ppl just didn’t build the build right

[still ingot]

leeching just isnt consistent compared to ifr-souldrinker-wildfire

[pale prairie]

Figured! I was talking to Syrineek! But I would also watch your stream

[pale prairie]

You have it selected in that picture whoops disregard

[gray juniper]

Ok I was low key confused I see

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[pale prairie]

I saw your build then though it was part of the Darktide link above

[still ingot]

LOL our eyes deceive us

[pale prairie]

Yeah that was my own conclusion since IFR isn’t limited to coherency

And higher chance yadayada

[still ingot]

yah

plus soulblaze is everywhere all at once

perilous combustion my beloved

[pale prairie]

Wildfire and souldrinker being next to each other is crazy synergy for fire users haha

[icy breach]

You pick soulblaze synergy over staff synergy even tho your only source of soulblaze is perilous combustion, same for your keystone

[still ingot]

yah pre patch these builds were insane scaling into 40's with consistent winrate and now with these guaranteed synergies its nuts LMAO

[pale prairie]

I almost wonder if soul drinkers shit placement pre patch was like a ghost nerf against soulblaze builds

[gray juniper]

It’s a must for me

[still ingot]

we took every staff synergy, and theres more than enough soulblaze going around, soulblaze is a catalyst for dmg not the dmg itself

[pale prairie]

Yeah the new tree is pretty nice. Feels like cohesive paths downward no matter what build you want

[gray juniper]

I want something less dot reliant so I’m doing this ek thing and it’s working out pretty good

No Ls yet

[still ingot]

soublaze into ifr into warp siphon into 100 percent scriers uptime

souldrinker and wildfire bonus mention

god i love proc chains

[pale prairie]

Man where are the Psykers like these for my not-great-at-ranged-threats Ogryn. Though killing the source of toughness (horde) would be a struggle

[icy breach]

Channeled force

[marble crater]

I lied, we won I had to survive a captain and try to clutch while hoping one of the bots gets replaced by a good player, it did and he killed the captain

[pale prairie]

EK always felt super clean. Better gun than a gun. And the Cc RMB was nice

[still ingot]

its only 10 percent, and the full charge is too risky to get generally

was honestly better pre patch for ek

[pale prairie]

Hell yeah buddy! I just need like 4 more captains

[icy breach]

With electro? Wdym; shit charges instantly even without warp flurry bless

[still ingot]

we queue full parties with our friends in fear lol

[marble crater]

One more assassination mission for you, I need 10 more, which is like 3 more missions

[pale prairie]

But the Perilous Assault tax lmao

[thorn cedar]

oh wow i didnt even notice Perilous was taken out

lmao

[still ingot]

its just bad attention economy for little gain

[dusk void]

So can I say that PC is a crap node?

[pale prairie]

Nothing like threats of death and near death to bond friends

[marble crater]

[crimson wigeon]

does anyone know if the empyric resolve perk effects scriers gaze peril gain

[pale prairie]

I did. It was quietly deleted alongside UNLUCKY FOR SOME

[marble crater]

I don't even remember what perilous assault did

[pale prairie]

I dunno I am having fucking pogryns show up instead. Very aggravating.

[gray juniper]

Ea I agree with this. I see myself almost never taking that talent especially if it’s purge/trauma. EK maybe but to be forced to whole charge while knees deep in a mob when I could’ve taken something else? Nah

[pale prairie]

Yes it does

[thorn cedar]

LOL i forgot about Unlucky for Some too

[icy breach]

Secondary offers stun; can stunlock even, locks on scattered ranged units & specials; one of the fiew things that can stagger a mutant too

[pale prairie]

How…..unlucky

[thorn cedar]

recently buffed, more recently buried, rip shitter

[crimson wigeon]

is it worth running for a scriers gaze build then do you think

[still ingot]

we used to path left side blitz with psyk aura

[pale prairie]

What are you running as weapons?

[still ingot]

it cant stagger muties what lol

[icy breach]

Yes it can

[pale prairie]

It can

You had to crit

So spam low charges

Usually by second it would stun

[gray juniper]

But they left that garbage purloin providence

[thorn cedar]

yeah, you lamebrain fools would path left but i, an intellectual, would never do that and forsake taking Malefic Momentum and Mind in Motion

all the Ms, all the time

[crimson wigeon]

mainly the force greatsword i almost never been using my secondary lowkey 💀

[icy breach]

2 not fully charged secondary attacks stagger it; 1 fully charged crit can

[still ingot]

either way i dont m2 into them since dodging exists, i usually reserve it for bulwarks and crushers

[pale prairie]

Damn papa is smart for a smyker

[thorn cedar]

Purloin has the potential to be really good but man they cannot get the numbers right.

[still ingot]

m1 kills muties faster anyway

[pale prairie]

It’s good for saving friends

[still ingot]

this too

[icy breach]

Sometimes its best to stun & then kill

[pale prairie]

This is also true

[still ingot]

qq cancel dps and savior factor my beloved

[gray juniper]

Yes it can. At least again thank god. Something changed in the code where it’s become consistent again

[pale prairie]

On a meleeker I don’t think it’s worth the point tax

[still ingot]

if channeled force had better attention economy, like a longer buff duration itd be a decent pick

[pale prairie]

If you REALLY want peril quelling battle meditation and By crack of bone would be better

[thorn cedar]

BCoB will freeze your perils to zero.

[gray juniper]

My n’wah

[thorn cedar]

If that's what you want.

[pale prairie]

Yeah it is too good

[crimson wigeon]

yeah gotta get that scrier extension

[pale prairie]

Makes my peril boner so limp

Like smite

[thorn cedar]

Honey I swear it's not usually like this.

[pale prairie]

Yeah uuuh let me stroke my sword really fast

[still ingot]

babe please i can tap into the warp i promise

[thorn cedar]

My P is normally huge and high! Honey please!

[pale prairie]

I promise I won’t lose it on the first poxwalker

[icy breach]

Keeps many buffs in check & allows venting shriek with flames augment to be ready to burst

[icy breach]

Begone woman

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/slaanesh-warhammer-total-war-gif-24197491

[icy breach]

I love the anteater daemons

[still ingot]

me and my wife will be staying i fear

[thorn cedar]

if youre fine with zero perils then yeah go for it, it solves management by genociding perils

Battle Meditation is solid enough.

[crimson wigeon]

im basically trying to make my build just scriers gaze spam with the greatsword lol

[thorn cedar]

Battle Med imo, or ..........

[pale prairie]

Say what you want about game workshop. The daemon chaos designs were pretty unique and cool

[thorn cedar]

........... Mind in Motion

[icy breach]

I wanna pet them

[still ingot]

chat we drop empathic evasion for mind in motion when

[icy breach]

[gray juniper]

I’m using it to max lightning secondary attacks, go ham with sword for a brief window, repeat

[crimson wigeon]

also i assume the flat peril generation resistances also affect scrier then right

[thorn cedar]

Ye

[icy breach]

Incomparable

[pale prairie]

Literally had someone say that today

No joking either

[still ingot]

in compare deez

[still ingot]

oh goodness

[icy breach]

Either stupid or trolling

Or new to game

[still ingot]

honestly if they were serious i respect it

[thorn cedar]

peak gunker

dont @ me you cant catch up anyway

[still ingot]

i accidentally ran no ee after buff and i didnt notice i didnt have it so who knows

[icy breach]

Not grabbing one with the warp is diabolical

[thorn cedar]

dont need it, just a dream is insane

[icy breach]

Why not both

[thorn cedar]

cause mind in motion

gosh keep up

[still ingot]

they call me the empyric resolve taker the way i be gimping my builds because im bored

[still ingot]

psyker movementmaxxing

[icy breach]

I like this bait; its a good bait

[gray juniper]

I did too. I did too. Don’t be afraid to drop old “must”s and try new things. It’s a new tree FOR GOD SAKES

[thorn cedar]

i am legit tho

[random spruce]

Well it was definitely a me problem. Infernostorm trauma was up to 2.2 million damage about 3/4 through Clandestium Havoc......then we crashed....thanks rotund guppy

[still ingot]

ur so real for that

[still ingot]

same

lets think abt the sliding mechanic during todays lecture

[thorn cedar]

MiM is much better than people give it credit for and there's nothing really keeping anyone from using it now that it isn't locked into a quadrant

[icy breach]

And die in the process yes… to my enjoyment

[thorn cedar]

turning quelling into a free action is yuge

[icy breach]

Keep it up

[gray juniper]

Btw everything I built that uses bubble doesn’t rely on EE

[static sonnet]

What's the rating number for a real stam curio? Is it 410 and up?

[thorn cedar]

and also deimos L1 > Quell Cancel repeat is the fastest way to spam that poke

[still ingot]

I LOVE TURTLING!!!!

[icy breach]

Yes

[still ingot]

fuckkkk thats such a hot combo

[icy breach]

Or block cancel

Both good

[random spruce]

The problem is why waste a talent point on it when learning to slide-quell/quell at good times costs nothing. It's never been a "bad" talent, we're just over filled with really amazing other talents

[gray juniper]

Sorry, this is MURICA, where we build our own builds from the ground up as we see fit, no red tape tax man telling us it’s against the law

[thorn cedar]

Slower.

[still ingot]

while the simple psyker dies trying to proc EE the chad movementyker runs away without fear of bullets piercing their agile skin

[thorn cedar]

Significantly slower in fact.

[thorn cedar]

Slide quell still has a place when I already need to slide from gunfire but the ability to tap R at any time to quell off 1% peril with zero movement loss to Assail a mother fucker is priceless and easy.

[gray juniper]

Because input losses in game session. That’s why

[icy breach]

For you; blocking for me is more comforting

I like my fingers uncrooked

[thorn cedar]

Your bloodline is weak.

[still ingot]

inferior deflector vs superior slider

[gray juniper]

White flag on the field

[thorn cedar]

lmao

[icy breach]

And yours deserve the fields that its tending

[thorn cedar]

Fields of blood. And awesome.

[icy breach]

Peasant

[random spruce]

What's your current assail build though? I would almost guarantee there are probably 4 talents you could put that point into that would impact the success of the build way more than MiM. Don't get me wrong I didn't buy the game for you, play how you have fun, it just always seems like a waste to me

[icy breach]

Basically

[thorn cedar]

Laspee Deimos

[random spruce]

I know you're probably joking but I've never had input lag stop a quell for me

[icy breach]

first i’ll plow your fields; then i’ll plow your mother

[still ingot]

fields of bubble psykers turning to shriek or scriers while in bloom

quite beautiful, really

[thorn cedar]

"I'm a LEAD FARMER MOTHAFUCKA"

[random spruce]

That's what I mean. In that build alone vulnerable minds, either of your assail modifiers, or even something like one with the warp seem so much more valuable. If it works it works, just never been worth a point to me

[gray juniper]

No im not joking at all. Some “moves” aren’t reliable strategies for me because frenetic button press almost always misses something in game when I try it. So I rely on different techniques instead of these

[still ingot]

the coolest part of psyker is knowing im a dragon AND i get to play psyker

[zinc phoenix]

Issue when pugging is the melees all get netted because they can’t actually play without being constantly covered with bubble

[random spruce]

This was the case. Then I had 14 plasma gunners ventilate me. I go back to my bubble. Never come out again 🥲

[icy breach]

Frenetic?

[icy breach]

You miss the opportunity to use purgatus

For free

[thorn cedar]

The extra charge on Assail is pointless for me since I genuinely never run out. The extra pen is also a loss because it rarely pays out due to Assail having dumbo flight patterns and limited flight time. I tried Vulnerable Minds and it only changes breakpoints on Crushers which I don't care cause Deimos throws them around like fodder and Reapers can't hurt me when I'm intangible and shooting their fat heads.

[gray juniper]

Frenetic

[random spruce]

Hmm 🤔 you might want to take a look at your peripherals and see if any settings or software is messed up. The only consistent input drops I get are sometimes when I want to weapon swap. It could be I have a pretty good ping on the server too though

[gray juniper]

I’m playing on cloud on past generation console so it is what it is but I can manage to hold on in havoc 40 so it’s viable

[random spruce]

Eh, to each their own sibling. I'm not some God psyker better than anyone else. You do you fam 🫡

[icy breach]

I dunno if such button presses could be called frenetic then; they are all but uncontrolled & distorted

[random spruce]

OOF, I forgor that console was a thing, makes sense

[gray juniper]

Frantic then

lol

[gray juniper]

Ok let’s be real these are good arguments. I’m considering now

[woven sentinel]

Can a soulblaze build work with non soulblaze staff? 🤔

[random spruce]

It hurts my soul that they Havoc reset us, but I'm not sure if I want to tryhard climb back through pugs again 😭

[random spruce]

Yes

[thorn cedar]

Gotta wake up early tomorrow to quit my job. Told the boss that he seems to have scheduled me 15-20 hours over my maximum hours for the next three weeks and he said it's a necessary sacrifice. I sure hope he's ready to take his own advice.

[woven sentinel]

Damn that is rough, good luck

[thorn cedar]

No it's really easy actually.

[random spruce]

Fuck em. You'll probably get a raise by moving anyways

[thorn cedar]

You just write "Gone quittin'." on a sheet of paper with your signature and walk out with your uncashed vacation pay.

[woven sentinel]

Rough situation, easy solution

[thorn cedar]

Should also say, this was in lieu of giving me the time off I requested.

So now I get it all.

[random spruce]

Darktide is all of our real jobs anyways

[thorn cedar]

Damn right.

[woven sentinel]

Good for ya, more darktide time

[thorn cedar]

I've got Minds to Motion goddamn it

[random spruce]

It would be funny if you put on the resignation "Sorry for doing this, but I can't sacrifice any more time away from slaying heretics."

[woven sentinel]

Tell me more, my idea was to apply SB with force GS with crit on special and SB on crit blessings

[thorn cedar]

Nah I got nothing to say. We are always busy in September, but we spent zero time recruiting new staff the last six months despite knowing four people were quitting with months of advanced notice.

This weekend is the big one. Good luck everyone else.

[random spruce]

You can do that for the melee build, or at least you used to be able to and it was still good. Trauma has a nice SB build too. You'd probably just give up the cleave blessing people normally run on the GS assail builds and tweak the tree a bit.

[thorn cedar]

So, no note, no threats or deliberation, just buhbye.

[random spruce]

I can try to theory up a build real quick

[woven sentinel]

Id really appreciate that tbh if its not a problem

[thorn cedar]

Besides I'm rock solid financially. I could be unemployed for two years before I hit $0, obviously assuming no disasters.

No car, just rent, ezpz.

[royal totem]

Nice!

[woven sentinel]

Car really does eat into your funds

[thorn cedar]

Cars are shit.

[royal totem]

Cars are money pits

[woven sentinel]

Good you got savings tho

I like the ability to go anywhere anytime

[wind spruce]

Bruhhh. Would you even get overtime for those hours?

[thorn cedar]

I would've, yeah.

But I don't do OT. I don't slave for money, that shit is dumb.

[random spruce]

Hmm I can't send an image off my phone, hang on while I jump on my PC real fast

[royal totem]

I need a car but damn are they money pits

[wind spruce]

Totally fair

[woven sentinel]

Appreciate it!!

[wind spruce]

Imagine wanting a life

[thorn cedar]

You gotta chat more you're still guested

It's why you can't post a pic

Need that red name.

[woven sentinel]

How are you guys enjoying the new update?

[thorn cedar]

very nice

[woven sentinel]

I cant believe how much more easier it is for me to survive on psyker now

[thorn cedar]

also is it just because i was away so long or did horde aggression vis-a-vis surrounding you get markedly increased

it feels like they get around me way quicker than they used to

[woven sentinel]

Damnation used to be a death sentence for me

[woven sentinel]

Hmmm havent noticed but I always scan around all paranoia like

[still ingot]

im an ICE DRAGON

[verbal thistle]

Ice DN?

[thorn cedar]

yea i was surprised to find myself needing to readjust

cause like, 4000hrs of muscle memory and the first couple hordes took me by surprise

ainz might know

[verbal thistle]

whuh

I just got here

[thorn cedar]

did they do anything for horde AI

[verbal thistle]

Dont think so

what change did you feel?

[thorn cedar]

also is it just because i was away so long or did horde aggression vis-a-vis surrounding you get markedly increased

that

[random spruce]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff772db-9064-4354-b8e8-0ce40ea374bb/flamey-sword

That's probably close to what I'd take off the top of my head

[thorn cedar]

they are reeeeaal quick to fill your back slots (DONT LAUGH) now compared to what my muscle memory expected

[random spruce]

I left one point out but you can flex that where you'd want

If it was me I'd probably take the toughness from the keystone or boost my assail

[woven sentinel]

Awesome gonna check it out, thanks

[random spruce]

You can take any ranged but recon las is the best for a build like that. But you also won't really pull it out much. The point of the build would be to keep peril at 100 percent as much as possible to gain maximum strength on the sword. Which also would entail purposefully under powering the sword to keep warp resist as low as possible. Then you spam assail shards in between times that you're using scriers when you see your peril dropping

If you look up "bubble knight" by agent chaos on YouTube he has good views on how you play the build. His doesn't feature the SB and is outdated now but it's a good visual teacher for how this would look when it comes together

[woven sentinel]

Right on, thank you for that

[random spruce]

No problem buddy

[rough gale]

How about a knife psyker? Someone Play it?

Looking for ideas how to break it

[verbal thistle]

break it?

[random spruce]

Like using knife only?

[rough gale]

Yea

[strong gulch]

Knife is one of the go to mobility or single target melees.

[random spruce]

🤔 let me think for a sec, you could definitely do one based around maximizing the bleed from crits. Idk how good it'd be though

[woven sentinel]

BTW does force GS special attack have infinite cleave?

[verbal thistle]

yes

[woven sentinel]

Regardless of charge?

[rough gale]

Thinking if voidblast stafg staggering enemy would work for Knife SmackDown blessing on knife for extra 20% crit

[thorn cedar]

knife is for my smyker

[rough gale]

Can you share yours for ideas?

[thorn cedar]

uh

well .... i havent rebuilt it since the update lmao

[rough gale]

Gotcha

[random spruce]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff776c4-b45f-4ae6-8a55-9158ea001c97/pokey-pokey something like this would be a start. You've got 5 flex points but that's how I'd maximize the knife if trying. For ranged you could go either gun or staff really. The big thing with that build is just maxing crit as much as possible to keep bleeds up

[thorn cedar]

i pulled up the pic and i was like "oh, right"

"this aint it anymore"

[random spruce]

You could use either knife mark to I just chose random

[bleak tartan]

Hi guys, so im an ogryn player but im wanting to try psyker and I have a question. I messed around with Assail and a little bit of Smite. Why would I consider Brain Burst as a Blitz since it seems to kill much slower?

[thorn cedar]

here is my hastily thrown together attempt

[random spruce]

To fill in for long range sniping, or for some talent interactions

[thorn cedar]

lots of points free

[bleak tartan]

But couldn't assail achieve the same results?

[thorn cedar]

so 6 left to grab whatever fancies, do recommend warp unbound but not necessary

[random spruce]

Not as reliably. BB has a longer range. It also let's you lose sight of them once it's charging so you can peak, start their head glowing, then go back into cover and pretty much guarantee the kill (depending on special)

[gray juniper]

I wanna give you medal

[thorn cedar]

Benefit of brain burst is a) never misses and b) instant and c) be prepped in advance. If you're not preoccupied you should be charging a brain burst with right click and sprint sliding to get around.

yea sadly my cat aint havin my early bedtime rn

[dusk timber]

Assail also cant do shit against carapace

[bleak tartan]

I'm assuming its weak to flak as well?

[thorn cedar]

Unless it crits, in which case it will instead do very little.

[random spruce]

Also the big thing with brain burst is Kinetic flayer interactions. For purgatus it ramps up your flame stacks faster. For trauma flame bulds it does the same. It works combined with perilous combustion and creeping flame to take out specials sprinkled within hordes, and rapidly ramp up SB stacks

[bright summit]

thank you <3 ill probably try to make a video/guide about it soon

[bleak tartan]

Might have more questions... Im just looking up the talents

[random spruce]

I should probably say for "voidblast" flame builds instead of trauma for you to look up stuff easier. Kids these days and their new words....

[bleak tartan]

Oh I'd figure it out. As an Ogryn I have to pay a lot of attention to weapon marks

Especially being a poor ogryn

[random spruce]

Lol 😆 any ogryn coming for help will always get it from me. Now zealots on the other hand.....

[rough gale]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff77c8c-2ace-4f51-bdad-9cf2d36d06d7/test-knife-psyker
Here's my idea for a knife psyker, lemme know what you tjhink

[bleak tartan]

I appreciate it... Its always nice having sparkheads deal with my flanks

[random spruce]

Don't do lacerate. The plus 8 stacks on critical is plenty and it interacts with the rending blessing to increase your bleed damage. Probably don't do "just a dream" either, you'll almost never not be "at critical peril." Ideally at least. The right keystone modifier is better than the left too. 5 seconds is not really enough time to ever get to 20+ stacks, but 10 seconds will let you pretty easily stay at 15. Last but not least I don't think I'd negate taking "vulnerable minds" ESPECIALLY after the enemy buffs.

All else looks OK though

Wait

I didn't see the staff you picked. I wouldn't do infernostorm trauma for that build. You can if you're going to rarely use it. But that staff combo is largely for a shriek build crafted around you almost exclusively using it to kill everything and keep shrieking over and over

[thorn cedar]

Critical Peril is anything above 97%

And you earn the full benefit

JaD is pretty wild

[gray juniper]

By the way, whoever said cats do not have object permanent is wrong

[random spruce]

Huh. Idk why but I read that ability as scaling down until you reach critical, and then promptly never thought about it again. My mistake that is very good then

[rough gale]

Thanks for a tip on lacceration, never played with a knife, gonna try something else

[random spruce]

Obviously. Why else would they permanently knock over the same object over and over...

[pale prairie]

The problem with this idea is that really only elites burn because everything else pretty much dies when hit by the crit. And you also can’t applies soulblaze with the special for some goddamn reason. Even though you can have it deliver bleeds by switching to bistol while it is in flight.

[random spruce]

No problem. Uncanny strike just increases your bleed and iirc your flame damage so much. The boss killing meta used to be purgatus shriek. Then you'd stack sb on the boss, then overcap those stacks with shriek. Then swap to a knife with uncanny, flesh tearer, and unyielding damage (damage boosts are based on held weapon not weapon applied so unyielding on the knife increases SB ticks on monsters), then you poke them in the face over and over. Doing all that let you like quadruple dip on damage sources

Idk if anything changed to make any of that different now though, it's been a while since I ran a build like that.

[ripe obsidian]

Not so much on Soulblaze besides Carapace.

[pale prairie]

“This game is super power crept and we need to be nerfed”

Fine no build trees only building blocks

[ripe obsidian]

Soulblaze has 100%+ ADMs on everything else.

[ripe obsidian]

Oi, wanna proofread my build guide so far? I am going overboard.

[pale prairie]

I have complete faith but I am down to read it for ya

[ripe obsidian]

Sent.

[gray juniper]

I saw that stupid video about “grunt fantasy” the other day. I expected something very different before opening it

[ripe obsidian]

I mostly want feedback on the builds themselves.

[pale prairie]

okay sure I can give my 10 cents. might be good just to have someone ask the dumb questions

[ripe obsidian]

You should have comment permissions

[pale prairie]

no idea what video you mean but i can picture what it contained. YOU MUST SUFFER. Look guys even DARK SOULS allowed you to feel powerful with certain builds. Theres gotta be a middle ground between WANTING TO PUNCH COMPUTER levels of difficulty and I SNEEZED AND THE HORDE IS DEAD

[pale prairie]

Taking tomorrow off to finish preparing the wargame army i am using to kill my DND players so I should have plenty of time to peruse and question and "UM ACKSHUALLY"

[ripe obsidian]

Do so.

[gray juniper]

Yes that’s pretty much it

Ngl as a console racist I blame modders etc once again

“Ahhh gaym tew easy”

[pale prairie]

I do think there's a bunch of mods and macros that some high level players use that DO make the game easy

[gray juniper]

Niqqa you did this to yourself 😂

[burnt frigate]

victim of your own success

the folly of human ambition

[deft stump]

The twitch stuff is so garish, but free pegleg if no budget.

[burnt frigate]

The lack of aquila events is getting irksome

[rough gale]

Thank you so much- I tested the knife and I don't like it xD

going back to my Flaming greatsword

[kind jay]

ugh i want to like the kobalash coat but why does it only have one glove

[tepid python]

whats 400 aquilla in USD

[burnt frigate]

69.69

idfk

[deft stump]

They just want asymmetry with it, I guess.

[tepid python]

yeah thats wrong buddy

[deft stump]

500 is like $2.80 or something.

It's $3.12 SGD.

@pale prairie @gray juniper Best Stam, yes?

19 being max... If I totally wanna go all in.

[radiant frigate]

yuge

[gray juniper]

Lmk what you think of this guys video on the opposite end where he’s basically complaining “gaym too hard so NOT FUN” https://youtu.be/KKsXez0UCjU?si=Ubwp2aK3LgRWnJdF

[gray juniper]

Idk it had one glove now I liek it more the

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s overkill don’t you think?

Honestly, good lord lol

[royal totem]

omg

[gray juniper]

Congrats tho

[royal totem]

i'm having so much fun with that build

the build that monsoon linked earlier

[deft stump]

I could... if I feel like it. I mean... this is more normal herderp build.

[pale prairie]

The greatest

[royal totem]

@pale prairie could you help me if you're around? >.<

[gray juniper]

Are you talking about staff bolt forever spam?

[royal totem]

yes.

[gray juniper]

lol good lord also

If you like it by all means

[deft stump]

That's on my Assail build, lmao.

[royal totem]

the empathic evasion and constant spam of crits feels so good

[ornate hamlet]

empathic evasion enjoyers rise up

[gray juniper]

I may have liked those kinds of things but at random times on some days my hand will start cramping for meleeing a gigantic horde too frequently etc

[deft stump]

It's just so dumb, I'm not even sure what I was on when i made it.

[gray juniper]

That’s one way to do it yes. Explore more build with same concept too. Theres a lot of useful ways to apply EE and critical

[ornate hamlet]

if u up standin in front of a reaper spammin crits smash that mf like button 🔥 👌 😂 💯

Or don't, but then I ask you politely to sleep with an eye open

[zinc phoenix]

zipping around blasting dudes with trauma and being literally untouchable because crits has never not been funny

[gray juniper]

That’s pretty much the same game with purge staff but different distances and quell rates to account for

[zinc phoenix]

like a ballerina with a howitzer

[gray juniper]

This is the way

[burnt frigate]

It's my Foot of Mork & Gork

[gray juniper]

Critting mixed horde is also a trauma special

[zinc phoenix]

also i finally got a game with a smoke vet so i could play trauma shriek

and its so easy its like cheat codes

all the ranged stuff runs over after the smoke pop

and then i blast them into orbit

why is smoke not mandatory for vets??

[royal totem]

Medmindset.

i need a thought

do i take Warp Ghost or do i take Empathic Evasion

[burnt frigate]

it is, but they don't listen.

[gray juniper]

Honestly I couldn’t say off hand

Both are dependent on factors at play

[royal totem]

this is on an inferno staff build

[gray juniper]

EE if you have a high fire rate+crit weapon/fast melee that does same

Oh then probably ee

[pale prairie]

What’s up?

[gray juniper]

It’s literally unstoppable when you learn to apply it right

[royal totem]

EE or Warp Ghost.

[desert mortar]

Anyone running uptime mod and willing to check their Psykinetic's Aura uptime % number? Trying to collect some data.

[gray juniper]

Secondary fire hold down

[pale prairie]

Ohhhhhhh man why is that a decision?

[ornate hamlet]

Each time I see a ranged crowd, my brain goes into happy crit mode https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/ivIKFo5qIrShtpyo4?invite=cr-MSxYVWcsMTkwNTkwNTA4

[royal totem]

cuz i took the point from Mind in Motion and now i need to put that free point somewhere

[ornate hamlet]

It's just fun to walk into everything

[gray juniper]

I can make a video of standing still and using flame staff hose one shotgunner pack one at a time and none of them hitting me because EE

[pale prairie]

Ideally you have both. BUT IF YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE I would go EE. You can just be really diligent about peril management. You can’t compensate for ranged dodge on crit

[gray juniper]

Tbh MiM is best for warp ghost itself (imo) but warp ghost is much better choice between the two

[pale prairie]

Another thing too is if you aren’t leaning on a lot of crits you could lose EE too

[ripe obsidian]

You people aren't ready for my Psyker builds. I wrote like 2,000 words just about Inferno builds. >:)

[pale prairie]

It’s beautiful

Still reading

[gray juniper]

I’d use warp ghost and EE over mim with a combo of those choices

[static sonnet]

BOY do I hate 1v1ing captains

[burnt frigate]

You people - Six, 25/9/25

[dusk void]

Why choose MiM if I can do the quell cancel tech while sliding?

[royal totem]

i need one more point but idk where to get it >.<

[gray juniper]

lol we just had those debate earlier I don’t want to do it twice

[dusk void]

True lol

my b

[gray juniper]

For some of us it’s much easier and more convenient or playstyle enhancing than the movement tech

[ripe obsidian]

I could say "you blights upon the purity of the Imperium of Mankind," if that's better. Filthy psychic mutants.

[dusk void]

Also question: Is EE worth taking if I do a crazy assail/fire trauma/bleed knife build?

[burnt frigate]

Still not enough. I'm going to end up a tithe and you still spare my feelings?

[ripe obsidian]

Probably.

[gray juniper]

For ME, knowing that I’m not going to be slowed down no matter what helps my play by play tactics and peace of mind

[ripe obsidian]

I'm a tithe, too, I just have delusions of grandeur.

[gray juniper]

Knife and hot staff do hella crit

[ripe obsidian]

Assail will crit fairly often. Blaze Trauma relies on crits. Knife is a crit weapon. EE has value.

[royal totem]

i could lose penetration of the soul and take warp ghost instead >.<

[burnt frigate]

All aboard the shortbus to Big E's psychic maw.

[gray juniper]

Definitely do that

Pots ain’t that hot

[deft stump]

Honestly, harder to decide if warp ghost or Anticipation.

Factoring high ping.

[royal totem]

or i could lose Inner Tranquility and take Warp ghost

what to do........

[gray juniper]

Just post the tree

[ripe obsidian]

PotS is bad.

[dusk void]

Finally, someone understands me. Also, which is better: Lighting Speed or just the melee damage boost? Sorry for all the questions. I'm still a noob after 2,000 hours

[gray juniper]

I looked it up. Inner tranquility isn’t good

[burnt frigate]

I prefer seeing Kinetic flayer proc off my melee rather than know assail will make me wish it was better.

[deft stump]

Shush, it lets me tank DH longer.

[gray juniper]

So -6% based on charges? Just take bcob and get a high frequent take at least

[ripe obsidian]

I'd probably say the melee damage boost with how quick the knife already is. It'll stack with other damage buffs for potentially more breakpoints. I don't know the math on that to say for certain.

"Increases the damage of melee attacks by 10%. This also applies to melee special actions of ranged weapons. Stacks additively with other related damage buffs, and multiplicatively with power level buffs from weapon blessings."

[gray juniper]

Well nemui is using it in a likely not advantageous way

[deft stump]

It's only good for memes. 6 charges as well.

[dusk void]

You are a saint. Thank 😊

[gray juniper]

6 charges is the default now unfortunately if you want extra proc

[deft stump]

15 stam or 5 dodges.

Hard to decide reeeeeeeeeeee

[royal totem]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff796af-6b8f-402c-9f17-23f49fddfa04/build-12?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

is my unfortunate build. it's not great i'm aware

and i need to free points for warp ghost and hopefully anticipation

[gray juniper]

Bro definitely lose tranquility for ghost or something else better

Are you having trouble in some melee situations?

[royal totem]

i'm not very good at melee in general

[gray juniper]

Ok pick up a force sword. Any of them

[royal totem]

i see big scary thing coming at me and i scream and just sprout flames at them

[gray juniper]

Any but illisi as a start will keep you competitive with big ugly enemies

[radiant frigate]

become proficient

[royal totem]

proficiency is impossible for me i fear. i'm a coward by nature lol

[radiant frigate]

engage in glorious melee combat NOW ⚡

[gray juniper]

Yea but the problem is fire staff won’t help you against ogryn enemies. You need a good melee weapon

[ripe obsidian]

3 builds. 1 with Empyric Resolve, one without, and a template to build on.

[gray juniper]

Try out great sword vi, great viii, Deimos or obscurus

[ripe obsidian]

Ask questions if you have any and I will answer.

Gonna try to get this build guide posted tomorrow, if possible.

[gray juniper]

[Pushes child into water]

[royal totem]

why does one of the builds not take One with the Warp. I thought One with the Warp very good

[radiant frigate]

that will be a valuable lesson

[ripe obsidian]

OwtW requires 65% peril to match JaD's damage reduction. JaD also affects damage to health, which OwtW does not. With Empyric Resolve, the peril generated from JaD is also reduced.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/bam-cat-gif-20133485

[ripe obsidian]

OwtW and JaD are both quite good. I just prefer to pair JaD with Empyric Resolve and OwtW otherwise

[royal totem]

i see. fair.

[ornate hamlet]

That just means you weren't put in a harsh enough environment

https://tenor.com/view/demon-cat-orange-cat-cat-meme-cat-glowing-eyes-gif-7351870046234051591

[thorn cedar]

OwtW used to be a one stop shop for TDR but now you get 10% from a travel node and scriers also has its 20% baked in now

[royal totem]

some people flourish in harsh environments. i just shrivel up and disappear. like i said, i'm the worst sibling here

[gray juniper]

It is

[thorn cedar]

and yeah DR is strictly more valuable

[ripe obsidian]

It's also a matter of how much you're getting hit. JaD means less control of your peril generation if you're getting bonked a lot.

[ornate hamlet]

Nah brother, I'm hauling you to the Congo and we're gonna find the boy Kurtz

You're gonna meet nature

You're gonna look deep into your soul and find your thirst for violence

[gray juniper]

Ok so how does just a dream and empiric resolve feel on toughness together?

[thorn cedar]

It's 1% peril per 4 damage taken

so its already pretty cheap

[gray juniper]

You mean general butt naked

[ripe obsidian]

JaD with is effectively 10% more toughness and health than JaD alone so long as your peril is below 97%.

So ER is giving you 10% toughness and health on top of the other bonuses

[royal totem]

ahhh i think Psyker is a melee class actually is a dangerous sibling!

[gray juniper]

Yea I get the basis of dream by itself but in conjunction with warp ghost how does it play? Warp ghost feels strong and tanky without dream, health bar damage is rare, peril needs some more manual quelling but overall it’s all manageable and easy to feel the added tough bonus. How is ghost with dream added on?

[gray juniper]

He’s extremely unsanctioned…. Which is why he’ll be your chaperone tomorrow

[ripe obsidian]

It feels good imo.

[gray juniper]

Still heavy toughness regen?

[radiant frigate]

psyker is a melee class actually

[ripe obsidian]

OwtW needs 65% peril to match the TDR alone of JaD.

[gray juniper]

I’m afraid of a cancel out effect

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker renegerates toughness like crazy now

[gray juniper]

Mayhaps I’ll tack it on

That’s the one new talent I haven’t tried

[ripe obsidian]

Toughness regeneration speed is additive, not multiplicative

[gray juniper]

Btw you never answered’

[ripe obsidian]

So WG + ER is only 5% toughness gen lost

[gray juniper]

What do you quell down to when you hit 100% on purge & trauma?

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, like 70-80%

Usually 2 ticks

Sometimes 3

[gray juniper]

Ok that’s weird

So that’s about what I do

Because I want more than one shot off on the next attack

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I usually get 2 off

3 with ER

[gray juniper]

But we had some kind of discrepancy yesterday

I forgot actually

I think a quietude debate

Not sure tho

[ripe obsidian]

Quietude is good, not great. Doesn't compete with the other toughness gen talents imo

[gray juniper]

But I’m switching between soul stealer and quiet lude over matches and idk what I’m doing but I’m having an easier time with quietude

[ripe obsidian]

My other thing is that Quietude is more toughness over time stacked on toughness over time. I prefer the burst of Soulstealer

[gray juniper]

I think I’m fairing better because I’m coming into new fights with toughness before hand

Idk I don’t have a better explanation

[prisma niche]

I am here because I feel a need to express how cool assail is
I want more psykic shard stuff

[ripe obsidian]

Assail is cool, you are correct. Go forth, psychic bees.

[ripe obsidian]

Do what works for you

I have marked Quietude as good in my build guide.

[deft stump]

Why do I find Anticipation better than Warp Ghost for my normal nonsense?

[strong gulch]

because you want to use defector and KD more from lower peril??

[prisma niche]

I want a staff that lets me throw a giant assail spear at heretics

[deft stump]

Also, JaD lul.

[ripe obsidian]

Best I can offer is Voidstrike. I apologize. It is lackluster for now

[deft stump]

Though I'm questioning to drop it for 10% Deimos aspd.

[prisma niche]

Sigh it’ll have to do…

[deft stump]

Because if I do, I can drop psykinetic aura.

[dusk void]

Any reason for this haoppening?

[strong gulch]

numeric UI ammo pickups setting

[austere warren]

What's a solid way for thinking about toughness regeneration talents early on? Right side is easy enough but it's oddly the one part about psyker that I think so little about.

I guess besides basic math.

[kind jay]

it's easy enough to take most of them but for me it's a matter of "which one will help me most in a situation i hate most" and for me that situation is having nothing/not enough to kill during a crucial moment

so for example if i could only pick one I'd pick quitude cause it let's me Regen whenever i want

[royal totem]

while i'm not arguing you're wrong, i never really have a moment where i don't have enough to kill or hit. unless i'm on an elevator or in an airlock.

[deft stump]

It's more for use with Vent. Just shriek and well, might save you.

[royal totem]

fair enough.

[kind jay]

it was mostly an example but sometimes it happens like fighting a boss and 18 bulwarks and not much is spawning

depends how the ai director feels that day

[deft stump]

But you can energency stroke your illisi and quell to survive as well.

[lament glen]

courtesy of @strong gulch:

BB = Brain Burst (aka Brain Rupture / BR)
BCoB = By Crack of Bone
BM = Battle Meditation
Bubble = Sanctuary
CC = Crowd Control (sometimes means crit chance)
CDR = Cool Down Reduction
CF = Channeled Force
CS = Charged Strikes
CW = Crystalline Will
DD = Disrupt Destiny
DS = Dueling Sword
EE = Empathic Evasion
EK = Electrokinetic Staff (aka surge)
EP = Empowered Psionics
ER = Empyric Resolve
ES = Ethereal Shards (sometimes Empyric Shock)
FGS = Force Great Sword
IFR = In Fire Reborn
Inferno (aka purg)
JaD = Just a Dream
KD = Kinetic Deflection
KF = Kinetic Flayer
KR = Kinetic Resonance
LMB = Left Mouse Button
LS = Lightening Speed
MiM = Mind in Motion
MM = Malefic Momentum or Malleus Monstronum
OwtW = One with the Warp
PA = Psykinetic's Aura (may also refer to Push Attack or Perilous Assault)
PC = Perilous Combustion
PotS = Penetration of the Soul
PV = Psychic Vampire
RMB = Right Mouse Button
Shriek = Venting Shriek + Creeping Flames
SG = Scrier's Gaze
SoA = Surety of Arms
TA = True Aim
TDR = Toughness Damage Reduction
TTS = Tranquility Through Slaughter (not text to speech)
VB = VoidBLAST (aka trauma)
VM = Vulnerable Minds
VS = VoidSTRIKE
WC = Warp Charges (aka Warp Siphon)
WE = Warp Expenditure
WG = Warp Ghost
WR = Warp Resistance
WS = Warp Splitting (can be confused with warp siphon)
WU = Warp Unbound

[strong gulch]

Thank you so much for the help.

[gray juniper]

Ok so if someone uses just a dream with empiric resolve does it improve health retained or just amount of peril taken?

PV sounds like a sexually transmitted infection 😂

[kind jay]

it's for peril the damage is always 25%

[strong gulch]

Finally someone said it.

[ripe obsidian]

Improves amount of peril taken

But instead of taking, like, 20 peril damage, you take 12

[gray juniper]

Call me dumb fam. I still don’t fully comprehend that. Like efficiency means something very lucrative when it pertains to KD for instance, so I’m wondering if it saves your health in a similar fashion

[gray juniper]

Ah ok. That’s not bad. It was be a serious talent probably propped up to must take if it worked out to my hopes

[strong gulch]

yeah what six said

[gray juniper]

Damn. It was so close to being ludicrous

[pale prairie]

Guys guys guys I found footage of Six playing the game

[chrome sail]

God I hate the power up penance. It means using the WORST possible version of brain burst

[pale prairie]

bruh its called PENANCE

not reward

[chrome sail]

yeah no shit, doen't mean the process has to be dogshit

There ARE enjoyable penances

this is not one of them

[royal totem]

huh. i don't recall having a rough time getting that one. wasn't super fun but was fine.

[sacred crane]

should i switch out crit chance for somethin else since psyker has crazy crit chance already now

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/obcrack-hawkeye-obcrack-kate-hawkeye-kate-bishop-hailee-steinfeld-gif-25750428

[pale prairie]

Personally? I like Fire.

[royal totem]

just kinda played on auric and melted hordes for warp stacks then brain burst things.

[pale prairie]

I also usually pair that with Souldrinker, PC, wildfire all of which benefit from more stacks being generated.

Also Perfect timing procs, mettle procs yada yada

[royal totem]

think you can even proc kinetic flayer from flame staff now? so if you light elites on fire it should make it even faster too?

[pale prairie]

Alot of what you would put there isn't super beneficial. maybe Maniac damage? but you can take your time killing those guys cause you are knocking them on their asses.

[sacred crane]

so uh switch crit chance or no

[pale prairie]

I would say no

sorry thats what I meant about liking fire.

[strong gulch]

Meta is flak + crit chance with nexus and blazing spirit.

If you want something else, that's up to you.

Fire VB wants crit chance

[pale prairie]

Yeah what potato said. If it was me deciding but free to make something different if you want

[tawdry hemlock]

What do I change on my Numeric UI settings

[pale prairie]

In mod settings there should be an option for "GRENADE AND AMMO PICKUPS" turn it off

[tawdry hemlock]

TY

[pale prairie]

What's happening is the mod is thinking you are picking up ten million grenades and bullets every second

[tawdry hemlock]

Is it me or they made smite psykers dirty right now

in a bad way

[pale prairie]

dunno about that. theres a ton of tanky stuff now

[pale prairie]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1420993020890841169/90742AAA-8B9E-49CC-80B2-FCBDB64B9054.mov?ex=68d76a60&is=68d618e0&hm=cc4f6d999dea489f0a5c3a5049c8f74b206f31069c0b40c85698b641eb666309&

[tawdry hemlock]

I can barely use my shock staff before I max out peril

Before I could shoot 5 lighting bolts now I can barely do 3

[pale prairie]

Thats been the case for a while. EK is a hungry staff and Empyric Resolve benefits it greatly

they have changed nothing about how staves generate peril except for the SG node that helps with quelling.

[chrome sail]

done, finally

[wind spruce]

it DOES save you health in a similar fashion, bc if you hit max peril with KD you're vulnerable and if you hit it with dream you start taking more damage

[gray juniper]

🫤

[dusk void]

Me needs help. Can't think of where to put this last talent on this knife/ blazing trauma/assail build

[gray juniper]

If add on to KD I get to save more stamina up front. If I add on with dream, I don’t

[wind spruce]

perilous combustion

its a cornerstone of any soulblaze build

[dusk void]

Other people in the chat tend to disagree with that statement

[wind spruce]

they really dont

people disagree over wildfire

but not PC

[gray juniper]

No seriously idk why you made that without it

[wind spruce]

can you link to someone saying dont take perilous? because ive literally never heard that

[gray juniper]

It’s definitely wildfire

(Wildfire is good btw)

[dusk void]

I heard it's good on trauma

But I'm worried about the limited soulblaze stacks

But oh well, I'll take it

[proper osprey]

its in the path

might as well

[wind spruce]

is the answer just to drop BM and unarmoured damage for something like shred + carapace

or does that just gut taxe

[proper osprey]

itll gut it

[dusk void]

I avoided that node like the plague. Now, it's in the path

[proper osprey]

revlover. vb, and ek

[cold hornet]

My biggest gripe with WF is that it procs after PC, it would be so much better if you could get the full 7 stacks on elite kill, but 4 is all we can get

[proper osprey]

those are the options

[wind spruce]

which is funny considering how much i had to argue with pyg about his guide saying BM was bad and you should run decimator lmao

[proper osprey]

yeah no deic sucks

bm is needed for all axes

if it has bm you take it

[wind spruce]

agreed

but also fuck these crushers

i want to run recon 😭

[summer prairie]

I don't take bm as arbi

[proper osprey]

yeah but with stacking your buffs its not bad

[proper osprey]

arby can be an exception

[wind spruce]

its still pretty bad man, especially in the heat of battle when you cant necessarily chain like 8 weakspot hits together

[proper osprey]

you dont need head taker on the mk4

[wind spruce]

shred?

[proper osprey]

yeah or deic

[wind spruce]

ive been running mk7 anyway

[proper osprey]

even on arby i use it

the cleave is nice yeah

[wind spruce]

deci just feels awful to me outside of monstrosities

[proper osprey]

but im putting the point elsewhere

[summer prairie]

it's good vs crushers now too

[wind spruce]

wait what cleave what point and whats good against crushers

[summer prairie]

deci

[wind spruce]

how much cleave does 25% strength actually give it

doubled with warp splitting hmm

[strong gulch]

Like other's said, you're probably thinking of wildfire (which is no longer competing for pathing with PA).

The only time PC is droppable is with right side builds (melee/ gunker) and PC is your only source of SB.

Otherwise PC is a cornerstone talent.

[wind spruce]

but no "continuously chaining" is just such a huge drawback.

[summer prairie]

it has to be since it stacks up to 50%, as long as your average is decent when you need it, it's good

[wind spruce]

fair

its a skissue but i cant handle the stress of whiffing with deci and even shred

[still valve]

I havent played since the last update. I used to run soul drinker blaze force. Anything important change?

[summer prairie]

Have you looked at the tree

[still valve]

I have yet to log on

by that responce I can assume alots changed

[bright summit]

psyker got buffed a lot and is even more overpowered now

[still valve]

Why

Is blaze force vent still meta?

or is there something better now?

[visual osprey]

I don't know how to feel about this skill tree rework tbh, it feels like they made the game more of a challenge in the last update and only now are the classes actually brought up to the level they should've been

I am definitely not going to complain about being able to use brain burst on a scryer's gaze build though, it's disgustingly good

[still valve]

My question stands

did brain burst get a big buff though?

[wind spruce]

Other than the general power creep this update was much needed

[visual osprey]

the power creep is very noticeable

I think the reason they started it with arbitrator was to bait people into buying it because it was blatantly op

[wind spruce]

if they had the balls (and a less toxic playerbase) to actual do drastic nerfs to certain things it would be perf

[wind spruce]

thats not bait lol

[visual osprey]

it's a scummy marketing tactic though

[loud girder]

Ogryn*

[still valve]

holy massive soul drinker nerf

guess blaze force is dead

[visual osprey]

Ogryn is the least played class in the game and I'll honestly drop a hot take and say I think they were fine

[wind spruce]

making the content strong and fun? lol no its not. i hate scummy capitalistic marketing more than most but that aint it

[bright summit]

They started it with last year's buff to Scriers with it venting peril on activation

[loud girder]

Maybe least played pre rework. Post rework they're extremely broken.

[visual osprey]

I believe you're missing my point here as that's not at all what I said

[bright summit]

And doubled down on it with ogryn 'rework'

[strong gulch]

Souldrinker was buffed (or maybe fixed)

It can refresh now and is in a better spot.

[visual osprey]

They made arbitrator objectively overpowered on release

[wind spruce]

my apologies then can you elaborate

[visual osprey]

I call that scummy because the class is also 12 fucking dollars

[wind spruce]

because later they'll make it not OP?

[visual osprey]

it feels as though it was intended to bait players into buying it so that they could play at the same level as the whales

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma? Go PC bruh

[still valve]

Does the overtime effect stack?

or can you only have toughness regening one at a time

[visual osprey]

That's a given

[wind spruce]

im lost again. wdym play at the same level as whales? buying the arbites does not make a player a whale

[plucky flax]

You're a whale.

He's calling you phat.