psyker-class

[random spruce]

I mostly just wanted psyker to function a bit less like a no hit run class, for every single run. Is that the case? Are we able to get hit by a single pox walker and not have our heads explode

[jovial juniper]

Never left

So yeah

We're back

[left basin]

is warp ghost nuts or nuh

[near wyvern]

sheiit I like the new tree layout

[weary crane]

I don't understand, on the mark 5 duel sword, the defense and mobility stat both have dodge distance and limit

[spice oar]

This is nice asf

And promotes psyker tank kinda

[near wyvern]

check Psyker Atheneum, haven't updated it in a while but that is explained in there and still valid

[spice oar]

And also

[near wyvern]

wait till you hear about the stun immunity

[spice oar]

Neat

[spice oar]

Oh I know that

I just mean the duelling sword unique tidbit for us is cool

[low sigil]

Yeah the new tree is nice, no need to waste points trudging towards 1 good talent

[quartz barn]

Still no old shaders however

The og shaders never returned

[jovial juniper]

It's nuts if you mained pyromancer

[spice oar]

Don’t member them

[swift eagle]

I mean OG DS was psyker only so haha

[weary crane]

Where's that?

[spice oar]

Yeah I remember the days

But that patch also gave us the bolt pistol so

[near wyvern]

google Psyker Atheneum should be top hit

[left basin]

pugis best boy

[near wyvern]

well I guess there goes my autumn then, hunting and updating the fucking guide... completely... for the third time

[spice oar]

We really need it updated cough cough it’s been ages cough cough

[wraith sphinx]

ty for your work on it though

it was a big help

[near wyvern]

I appreciate that you appreciate it

my employer not so much

[wraith sphinx]

[weary crane]

The Mk5 has 5 dodge limit and 15% dodge distance

The MK4 has 4 dodge limit and 8% dodge distance

[gray juniper]

Ok it was just a heresy match, but with new tree I almost didn’t get touched the entire match. And it was a crowded map like vigil station

Need to up difficulty to see how enemy health pools feel with these talents & nodes

Basically using old meta with new adjustments. Being able to take mind in motion with purge staff build is freeing

[low sigil]

Please test out the explosion damage in damnation+

[zealous wing]

idk i still gotta test how reloading while moving feels if i fuck up the slide

[low sigil]

we need to see if you can one shot ragers

[zealous wing]

k

i will test

let me make a build for it

[gray juniper]

Not yet bro. I need to establish a baseline on the talent tree first. After that yea ofc lol

[low sigil]

does overload kamikaze count as a warp attack?

[zealous wing]

no

) it doesnt one shot them

[low sigil]

sadge

[near wyvern]

the new KF is a bit funny on shredder

one random stray bullet on a gunner elite, elite goes poof

[zealous wing]

it two shots them

[near wyvern]

scab gunner is one shot

oh wait I have +flak on weapon

it counts bonuses for sure

yeah it counts +armour bonuses from weapons

[low sigil]

What other elites would promt a bombing

[weary crane]

The death explosion 1 shots rangers on auric

[near wyvern]

with +unarmoured +flak KF one shots all gunner elites (non-ogryn sized)

[low sigil]

Shotgunners?

[zealous wing]

i am on auric

[near wyvern]

always on auric baby

if we discuss about break points it's always on auric

nohting else matters

[zealous wing]

doesnt even oneshot the new gunners lmao

[gray juniper]

I don’t know if it’s the effect of malefic momentum or not, but the purge staff has cooking elites quickly. I only have warp rider and warp siphon for damage additions

[pale prairie]

Hmmm

[zealous wing]

LMFAO

[left basin]

huhhh

[zealous wing]

you didnt one shot it

[weary crane]

it just means dmg multipliers work now

[zealous wing]

it KF

you took corruption

[weary crane]

oh lol

[low sigil]

If it two shots ragers it should oneshot shotgunners

[vestal flower]

Is Warp Splitter a good Talent node?

how important is cleave if I am using a Blaze Force Greatsword?

[low sigil]

oh wait scab shotgunners got hella health now

Yeah 1320 doesnt even one shot scab shotgunners, they have 1500

[near wyvern]

yes if you use melee weapons or the voidstrike staff (the one that shoots balls)

[left basin]

imagine bb would be improved with ws damage....

[vestal flower]

kinda random but Soulstealer vs Quietude?

[near wyvern]

aaaa mind in motion doesn't allow you to sprint while reloading

[vestal flower]

not using a staff, but using assail

[near wyvern]

dead on arrival again

[gray juniper]

IMO not that important. If you’re using mark 8, you have enough cleave already. If you’re using mark 6 cleave won’t help you a lot due to your target use

[near wyvern]

both are good, often you take both

[cosmic cobalt]

alway has been

[near wyvern]

if using staff

[cosmic cobalt]

quietude still isnt that good

[near wyvern]

for assails souldrinker is better

[zealous wing]

here's oneshots

[near wyvern]

or soulstealer I mean

you are low on toughness, pull out assails and spam the trash for more

[vestal flower]

hmmm I see

[ornate hamlet]

Oh, new update

Wasn't expecting that, not that I can expect anything when I don't read news

[vestal flower]

I kinda get all the damage nodes I need/want, but I am having trouble with survivability on Psyker... then again the whole point of psyker is being a glass cannon lol

[zealous wing]

yeah its pretty much, dont get hit

oh i missed tox flamer in the shot

she didnt die either

[near wyvern]

psyker defense is active defence, the only passive you have is the dome

[zealous wing]

anyone know why vraks has one less bullet in the mag btw

its throwing me off

[near wyvern]

this is the reason

sincerely

[left basin]

ass sale? soul drinker? whye

[zealous wing]

the other vraks with max ammo stat has the same thing

[marble crater]

Nerfed, vraks unusable now

[near wyvern]

suddenly range mobs become toughness packs with soulstealer

[cosmic cobalt]

havoc

[near wyvern]

ment soulstealer not souldrinker

[zealous wing]

no this is the REAL nerf

30 less bullets

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah

[glacial vapor]

Less brrrrrrrrt

Unplayable

[near wyvern]

more bzzzzt

embrace KF now

[vestal flower]

wdym by "active" defence?

[near wyvern]

Kinetic Deflection. Most broken talent still in the game.

the only class that can still block while having no stamina

[swift eagle]

Weird thing I noticed now when sacraficing things. Why does it say items below power level 510? Is 510 now reachable?

[vestal flower]

is this the best recon lasgun mark? is there any usage for the other ones?

[near wyvern]

and also, your peril bar is x4 your stamina bar for blocking so technically you have a total of 5 stamina bars for blocking

[zealous wing]

best is subjective

[vestal flower]

ahh really? damn I see

[zealous wing]

this is what i was using before switching to vraks

[left basin]

i have a feeling voidstrike is going to be turbo back with scriers and new bonus stacking

time2bowl

maybe i'm just wistful

[summer prairie]

With the bubble knight v2, I'm constantly sitting at 97% peril with that peril dr talent. Not ideal for assail, going to grab BCoB now. Was a gas map though.,

[near wyvern]

@sharp elk old one but should still be able to do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_ol8sMQQDc

[weary crane]

No items available in armoury

Brunt is broke

[zealous wing]

wait a fucking second it works on poxgas

???

[summer prairie]

any damage

but not like it helps a lot

when you are already at 97 especially

[swift eagle]

You can get items from his armoury but only from the "choose weapon get random roll as grey"

[near wyvern]

FS just telling us to start spending money for gear

[zealous wing]

an hour and a half

an hour and a half and i can see if the FGS skins are shit or not

[swift eagle]

Is Melk and Brunt getting a rework too? I didn't see anything about that, and not sure why they took their shops down if not.

[zealous wing]

theres a ton of weapon tweaks so they're probably cleaning up what they can sell

[near wyvern]

why the hell is Anticipation still in the game

[zealous wing]

... because dodging with FGS is a pain otherwise?

[idle aurora]

goddamn, kinetic flayer on purga is nuts, it counts every single dmg tick as a hit

[zealous wing]

yeah

any hit

[near wyvern]

you don't dodge with FGS, the enemy dodges you

[zealous wing]

tell that to the fucking crushers

sometimes you can stagger them in time but sometimes you have to dodge

[near wyvern]

yes and also if you have a shredder with +unarmoured +flak you can one shot any elite gunner every 12 sec with a single stray bullet

[zealous wing]

also, trapper nets, snipers, etc

[near wyvern]

haven't confirmed ogryns yet with the new talent tho

[vestal flower]

should you spam electrokinetic force staff or should you charge it up always?

Charge rate or Crit bonus stat on it=

[near wyvern]

Warp Rupture is still bad I presume

[swift eagle]

Sure seems like it

[near wyvern]

10% more damage taken is not worth over 6 stacks of blaze imo

[wraith sphinx]

better than before though but yeah

[thorny cliff]

It is

[upper sun]

🚬 ok lets see this update

[wraith sphinx]

it's the update that kills clad

[zealous wing]

ok yeah the plasma gunners are a pain their sound cue for "youre about to be shot" plays too late

[mystic harness]

going to work on my psyker any one able to help me with a build to give me an idea by chance?

[zealous wing]

well i guess first question is what weaponry do you want to use

or, what kind of psyker do you want to play?

[mystic harness]

im kinder open to all suggestions

[near wyvern]

the new talent tree just came out, we are all learning again

[jovial juniper]

No

Anticipation is not good at all

It's just not

+1 dodge, eh ok

0.1 linger eh

Not enough

[near wyvern]

the linger is ineffective against ranged, only affects the melee tracking when they attack you

so there is that

the only thing that can kill a psyker

[jovial juniper]

That too

[near wyvern]

is ranged

melee is not an issue

[jovial juniper]

And even then

[near wyvern]

we can block for days if we want

[jovial juniper]

EE

[upper sun]

BOOOOOOOO they added a delay on brunt spam buying BOOOOOOOOO

[zealous wing]

bruh they wat

[jovial juniper]

Speaking of EE

[zealous wing]

glad i got all my shit done already then

[jovial juniper]

Is it still the same?

[spice flame]

Did they fix Penetration of the soul

[near wyvern]

haven't tested but even if they did +20% rending is too low

[wraith sphinx]

my psyker just remarked that her connection to the warp grows stronger every day

uh oh

[jovial juniper]

Elite ball knowledge

Anyways

Pots dead

The tooltip says only for Warp attacks still

Waiting on a test proof on that

And it's on a very optional place

[spice flame]

very

[jovial juniper]

Gonna use it with smite

[zealous wing]

ok damn quietude with SG isnt bad at all

its not fantastic but

[wraith sphinx]

it feels redundant tho

[jovial juniper]

Quietude consecrating their place in every build

[wraith sphinx]

not in mine

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

[wraith sphinx]

I AM EMANCIPATED

[spice flame]

sure does

[upper sun]

like i said new boltpistol is literal ass

[wraith sphinx]

you don't need than 2 toughness gen talents doe

[tulip kettle]

new bistol is for vets not us

[upper sun]

im on vet

its bad on vet its gonna be worse on every other class

[near wyvern]

seems to work now, when stacking all the different damage bonues I cannot get BB to two shot crushers, it is just barely off. Throwing in penetration of soul I can two shot crushers. But this requires crazy buff stacking.

[tulip kettle]

fair enough

[weary crane]

Yeah duel sword parry doesn't block everything, there's a short time when it doesn't block

[deft stump]

The new mark sucks. Dumping damage and ammo for bigger boom is eh. Unless it also buffs 'nades, pointless.

[left basin]

i have some weird black flickering when darktiding recently

[tulip kettle]

i think their theory was its just shooting lots of little nades

if it doesnt work then meh im not surprised in any way

[deft stump]

It hits for nothing still.

[sand cove]

What's better Bio Lodestone or overpowering souls?

[vestal flower]

What are the uses case of Voidstrike/blast staff compared to electrokinetic?

[deft stump]

And honestly, you want the damage to kill specials and such. 'Nades boom chaff anyway.

[pastel turtle]

does "in fire reborn" still work the same where anything dying with soulblaze stacks counts for the 10%

[near wyvern]

overpowering souls

[zealous wing]

overpower

elites are things like gunners and shotgunners

[sand cove]

@zealous wing gothca. that makes sense. thanks kings

[dusk timber]

Ogryns, shotgunners, gunners, ragers

[left basin]

vstrike is a funny head popping generalist, vblast is a nuts cc machine with two build options with either warpfire or brittleness stacking (or whatever it was called)

[near wyvern]

the thing is, bio-lodestone only gives you a +5% chance per random mob to get a charge. Overwpowering souls gives you +90% chance of getting a charge when killing an elite, while retaining the base 10% against any mob.

[sand cove]

now that I think about it esp in aurics since there are so many elites, 100% chance is easy to get. makes sense

[left basin]

vstrike does get rather nutty with higher crits

[pastel turtle]

the voidblast brittle is a unique brittleness too, aint it? like it's distinct from thunderous and can stack with it

[near wyvern]

britleness is not unique, stacks additively with any rending, it's just that brittleness is a debuff on the enemy while rending is a buff on you

[pastel turtle]

No I mean like if two guys with thunderous are wailing on a crushing it caps out quick

but if its being hit with thunderous and rending shockwave the brittleness debuff stacks

[near wyvern]

and the damage calculation goes, if your weapon deals less than 100% damage, brittleness/rending will be a simple additive until you get to 100% damage, after 100% the calculation changes, each 4% over the 100% gives you 1% additional damage

and also if they haven't fixed the brittleness descriptions brittleness used to give half of the value that was listed, haven't tested that again

[sharp elk]

You pinged me lmao

[near wyvern]

well you were curious about psyker active defense no?

if you ask questions from me or start a debate with me be mentally prepared to become pinged

[steady yarrow]

guys, are we cooking with these changes or still pretty much the same?

[near wyvern]

hard to say at this point but I am pretty sure there are some new broken combinations in there while some old ones were completely deleted

at least some dead talents have been given new life

and the talents have been made more reachable with less points

[gilded plover]

They removed the +1 smite jump talent T_T

[steady yarrow]

Yeah, I haven't been able to really go through the details yet, but it did look like a few talents were merged together which is nice.

That might be the one that's baseline now though.

[zealous wing]

merged to base

[near wyvern]

yeah it's baseline

pick smite and you got it

[gilded plover]

Oh... thank you!

[left basin]

pugis best boy

[gilded plover]

What are some "must have" talents on smite oriented Psyker in your opinion?

[vestal flower]

what about electrokinetic?

[tepid python]

smite 😤🥀

[jovial juniper]

Smite got buffed and nerfed

Lol

[tepid python]

hows assail

[zealous wing]

glorious as always

[jovial juniper]

Enfeeble is must have

[vast yew]

Depends on what you mean by "Smite Oriented Psyker"
But Creeping Flames + Warp Siphon is a classic combo. Just be sure to bring something for bigger guys and don't spam it 24/7

[near wyvern]

electrokinetic staff is a very good one, very forgiving if you have bad aim

[steady yarrow]

I really want to see what kind of defensive buffs we got. Getting one-tapped at higher difficulties is wild.

[left basin]

elite/specialist deleter, used to be one of the better staves for stacking shriek regen, has a funny (but norfed) interaction with it's high base crit chance and double LMB's

[gilded plover]

Yeah I use that one

[vast yew]

10% Flat DR in a node, 25% damage -> Peril in another

[steady yarrow]

That 20% ogryn/monstrosity damage looks sick also

[weary crane]

Overpowering souls

[vestal flower]

is it just used to stun enemies?

[gilded plover]

Ill check them out (possibly already in my build but i dont remember the names)

[steady yarrow]

wtf these look amazing

[vast yew]

With the buff to KF it's going to be very consistent for that as well

[steady yarrow]

holy shit

[wraith sphinx]

Warp ghost is amazing I love it

[left basin]

does wonders if you're getting pressed by melee, too.

[weary crane]

Yeah passive quelling was pretty useless anyway

[jovial juniper]

Single target damage oriented

[gray juniper]

Beware crushers haven’t been so bad but those plasma gunners in packs are brutal

[vestal flower]

with the left click spam?

[steady yarrow]

does their plasma shot pierce bubble?

[zealous wing]

oh my

fucking god

[left basin]

now imagine psyker gets to have toughness overcharge..

[zealous wing]

they fixed surety of arms

[jovial juniper]

M2 deals 600-6000 to the first target and 230 to the second

[vestal flower]

ooh okay

[gray juniper]

Picking up ghost was the right decision I’m seeing. This node rocks

[jovial juniper]

M1 spam is just

I don't want to use gun with ammo

So I use better gun without ammo

[viscid matrix]

Ooo kinetic flayer is 12s and 100% chance now

Guarenteed head pops on hit is gonna be awesome

[weary crane]

The main buff is the fact it doesn't bust bursters

And the whole team dies

[jovial juniper]

M1 has higher damage, stagger and suppression than most weapons in the game

But 0.25 cleave

[gilded plover]

I use Scriers Gaze so no Creeping Flames

[left basin]

there used to be a weird (and rather cancerous mechanic (that i neeeever abused at all)) that allowed you to skip a bunch of animation frames on staves

[viscid matrix]

Being able to open up a fight with a guarenteed head pop on a ogryn is gonna be fire

[steady yarrow]

also Brain Rupture
Damage increase is now calculated as a Multiplier (will increase all subsequent bonuses)

[near wyvern]

blitz cancel dirty boi

[viscid matrix]

This too

[analog agate]

Hows the new tree working out

[near wyvern]

looking good, brain burst still meh, KF interesting, lots of dead nodes replaced with potential choices

[vast yew]

Okay that's not a build I've ever seen anyone brave enough to run so I have no advice lol

[viscid matrix]

I might be going back to head pop again, after over a year of ignoring it

[near wyvern]

mind in motion still shit

[weary crane]

This is more of a fix than a buff tbh

[potent echo]

no PC psyker is just

[analog agate]

Lol I saw it now includes reloads

[potent echo]

blegh

[viscid matrix]

It’s a massive buff

[steady yarrow]

I actually didn't have issues with brain burst, but it was more of a tool than something I used often lol

[weary crane]

It should've always done that

[gray juniper]

Was there a weapon swap buff across the board?

[viscid matrix]

Wonder if we can brain rupture 1 shot an reaper/crusher now

[steady yarrow]

but i agree it should have always factored that in

[gilded plover]

Worked pretty good on Heresy for me so far..

[left basin]

in short, for some uncertain amount of time lmb spam + quellcancel macro + a new staff-centric talent line made zapstaff the best sniper machinegun stun blah blah weapon in the game

[vast yew]

Brother, everything works in Heresy

[zealous wing]

to be fair everything worked on old heresy. we'll have to wait and see if new heresy is the same

[swift eagle]

mmm was this a bug before? bombers throwing grenades out from behind spawn doors?

[steady yarrow]

bro, this tree is sooo much better.

Just not having talent locked behind certain blitz/auras

[swift eagle]

he was sitting inside a closed spawn door throwing a few grenades haha

[gilded plover]

Ive seen a couple dead parties on Heresy

[gray juniper]

The new talents are actually worth something but haven’t tried them all

The upper middle tree was a big improvement

[left basin]

move up to damnation and slowly work upwards, heresy is a filter line where a bunch of failed tryhards live that WILL make your life miserable

[gray juniper]

Thank you devs. Thank you for letting me use mind in motion on staff

[zealous wing]

i still wonder what the dev i came across was doing in malice on smite build

[gray juniper]

Trying to win

[potent echo]

actuall

pubs are so easy because all the gods are coming back to play this update lol

level 1000s

[thorn cedar]

??

oh wait

i get what you mean now

[gray juniper]

Yea you get it

[potent echo]

right side

kekw

[upper sun]

my god the fucking psyker tree is so skinny now

[gilded plover]

Does smite do critical hits?

[upper sun]

i have like 9 flavor points

[weary crane]

I'm not sure whether I want to use kinetic deflection now, due to the duel sword increasing my peril from parry, it might be better to use the stamina instead

[potent echo]

do you miss the love handles

i have stam and i dont take kd

[marble crater]

The psy aura is actually not as bad as I thought

[gilded plover]

Thx

[pale prairie]

P

[gray juniper]

It’s just refreshing to not see a lobby of 2+ arbies every game

[weary crane]

I'm just worried on havoc 40 when I have 10 rangers and twin on me

[thorn cedar]

its funny cause as an avid MiM lover i still didnt really see the need on stavrs

staves* cause the movement loss for quelling with one is significantly less than other weapons

[vast yew]

People being bad is always a thing
The point was more that you can make anything work on Heresy, so you don't need build advice down there. Just run whatever you want.

[upper sun]

i have +3 stamina for free

my god

[summer prairie]

Ok not convinced this is a nerf to Psykinetic at least for the psyker himself

[marble crater]

[thorn cedar]

now i dont need a stam curio to make KD insane

[gilded plover]

My point was that people die on Heresy so build matters I think. Changing up a few things in my build improved my performance on Heresy alot

[gray juniper]

An impassable stamina node in the tree is kind of weird idk how I feel about it yet, but warp ghost is awesome itself

[summer prairie]

Also 34 minute healing rotten vigil havoc 31. I was shrieking at least as often as before I think

[pale prairie]

What arbites got stamina? They only reduced the toughness by 20 and gave block state while charging in break the line

[gray juniper]

Yep. Still ability spamming

[rigid iris]

quietude is just a musttake now nice

[pale prairie]

Purge?

[summer prairie]

yes

[forest jolt]

people dying on heresy is the skill issue part... no amount of good buildmaking will save that. It would be better to help them understand the game mechanics more than to streamline them into a build they don't understand

[gray juniper]

Quietude is great. You don’t need soul stealer as a requirement tbh

[summer prairie]

You get more healing enemy farming now due to higher crusher HP letting them stay alive, I think

[gray juniper]

On generate was the critical difference

[idle aurora]

The 80% slowdown on passive peril drop is insane value

[upper sun]

dude psyker is so peak now

[dusk timber]

Its a nerf because it doesnt contribute to other people's ability spam and it doesnt stack with itself

[pale prairie]

I think the idea was pack of ragers come around the corner and you kill all of them for like 40% x cooldown. But it must be close to the 100% over 3 sec

[idle aurora]

I have been sitting above 75% like the whole havoc run

[viscid matrix]

Ooof the DS IV got shafted this patch

[steady yarrow]

I can't believe how much DR is possible now.

[marble crater]

It's not that bad in practice

[dusk timber]

Yeah its still good

[gray juniper]

It really doesn’t clarify that. The aura choice doesn’t, BUT the talent of psykinetif aura directly below it does

[dusk timber]

Just not insanely strong as it was

[vast yew]

Which is great! Figuring things out is awesome.
What I'll tell you though is that Smite + Scrier's is not a build anyone is going to be taking into Auric or Havoc anytime soon. If it's working for you on Heresy, and you want to keep playing Heresy, then go for it friend. But no one is going to have much advice for such a build, because none of us are using it.

[left basin]

idk if that changed since the olden times, but there was an immediate drop in difficulty when i progressed to damnation from heresy in 2022. somehow, through mysticism and haruspicy everyone figured out that calling eachother morons and subhumans, pretending to be the rambiest rambo, ignoring game mechanics and blaming everything on weather doesn't make the level complete itself. in damnation there was mostly complete silence in pubs and somehow everyone progressed

[marble crater]

6 warp charges for the same price as old Siphon helps

[tepid python]

can he kill damnatiob mutants yet

[idle aurora]

Also, i am never taking off the new kinetic flayer the amount of random trappers and dogs that just get fucked off screen is ridiculous

[pale prairie]

Yeah wondering about warp rider and the new damage against Ogryn talent

[hollow current]

oh lemme make that a mp4

[viscid matrix]

Wonder how much the DS4 got shafted, I hope it can still 1 shot muties and deal with crushers in a decent time

[pale prairie]

Been able to judge HP pools on havoc yet?

[hollow current]

Numeric UI counter going wild. Here's a quick fix I guess.

dunno why my cursor is way off in the vid tho.

[strong gulch]

how are mods looking?

broken af?

[left basin]

you seem to have a lot of ammo

[spice flame]

Ah thanks, I was wondering were was that setting

[idle aurora]

update dmf, otherwise looks to be fine for the most part

[gilded plover]

So what do people use Scriers with/for?

[gray juniper]

Immensely tbh

[viscid matrix]

Can anyone let me know how the ds4 feels now? I can’t log in till tomorrow

[vast yew]

Melee builds, gun builds, maybe the new Quelling Speed node might give some enterprising Voidstrike/Electrokinetic builders some ideas

[thorn cedar]

Basically anything you want.

[vast yew]

Force Greatsword + By Crack of Bone is a classic combo with Scrier's

[forest jolt]

why did you still got the corrution there? were you not running the talent?

[thorn cedar]

Happy BCoB got nerfed down a bit but it's still too strong tbh lol

[gilded plover]

Well i use it with Smite and melee combat, but Ive been told its not viable above Heresy

[weary crane]

It died to KF

[near wyvern]

GUYS

MELEE PSYKER IS SO IN

unkillable

[hollow current]

Always has been.

[viscid matrix]

DS4 got a possible nerf tho

[spice flame]

not just Possible, it's a nerf

[last shore]

💀

[spice flame]

and that's good

[gray juniper]

I’ve seen someone crash 5 times in a regular game just now so i wouldn’t recommend it

[spice flame]

I was sick of ppl running DS 4

[hollow current]

2d inventory is kill

[last shore]

Bro thinks ds is only melee in game

[viscid matrix]

Poor ds4

[forest jolt]

OH... but does it kill them with the normal explosion too?

[weary crane]

No, it doesn't 1 shot ragers

[spice flame]

KF not triggering on busters is SUCH a nice QOL

[hollow current]

GFS VI cult

[weary crane]

Not based

Watching whole team die is funny

[gray juniper]

Booo ds4

[spice flame]

Well sometimes just a proc of wildfire could cause the buster to burst on your own face

[gray juniper]

Let the door hit you on the way out ds4

[spice flame]

wich, was not nice

[viscid matrix]

Strike down got buffed, but the strike down stab got nerfed

Pretty sure that’s heavy 1 nerf, heavy 2 buff

[viscid matrix]

It has a parry and riposte now
Which might be good

[gray juniper]

Yea it’s just fine compensation

[viscid matrix]

If I can parry a mauler or crusher slam, I’ll be happy

[vast yew]

It's mostly just with Smite really; better to use Scrier's with something like Assail (so you can toss the darts quickly during the 10s period where you can't explode) or Brain Rupture (for Kinetic Flayer freebie kills). Smite tends to be used when the rest of your kit lacks CC and you really want it.

[spice flame]

I've never used those talents cause they were hard to get, any chances that ther are pretty good with electro staff and idk, bowling ball staff ?

[weary crane]

I've tested the parry on duel sword and it isn't as good on defense to it overloading your peril and also not being able to constantly block everything like dclaw

[vast yew]

high chances, yes

[gray juniper]

People that can play well will still be able to use the dueling sword, but it won’t be this cheap weapon anymore hopefully

[vast yew]

At least from how I read them

[gilded plover]

Thanks for feedback

[gray juniper]

Doubt. Those are unblockabpe attacks

[viscid matrix]

Looks like if you can do the parry and riposte, you can do the same damage as heavy 1 before

[viscid matrix]

Fair, but I can hope

[spice flame]

you can with the claw sword

tho

[weary crane]

Yeah I will definitely take it because it does a lot more damage than dclaw, but I think it's better without kinetic deflection and just max stamina

[viscid matrix]

Wonder how the chain sword feels now with its buff

[marble crater]

I crashed only once, but the game feels kinda... sluggish to play

[weary crane]

I haven't tried parrying overheads but it works on dclaw

[vast yew]

Anytime! My best advice is to figure out which ranged weapon you want to use, then try to build the rest of your kit to complement it. So if you take an AoE staff, take a single-target blitz. If your ranged weapon is good at single-target, take a melee weapon that's good at hordes. The old build ideas still work mostly but you'll have to translate a bit until they get updated.

[gray juniper]

If you use DS I’d likely go with this suggestion DD users

[viscid matrix]

Oof crusher hp almost doubled

[vast yew]

By the Emperor...

[hollow current]

they're still gonna get 2 tapped

[viscid matrix]

Nah I think it’s 3 now

[gray juniper]

Idk about the game being sluggish itself but it feels likely the plasma gunner may be bugged in some encounters

[buoyant citrus]

any tips on how to do the 4 brain blast kills in 12 sec penance ?

[viscid matrix]

Oof muties have a 2.5x multiplier when we melee them, instead of 3x

Guess ds4 will never 1 shot them again

[gray juniper]

Relax the crusher is still manageable. You really have to come with the right melee or staff/gun though

[vast yew]

Kinetic Resonance + EP

[spark swallow]

ngl, I'm not a fan of how DS got nerfed to the ground for psykers.
the supposed exclusive benefit also feels like a debuff.

[near wyvern]

yeah ok so with ghost and the stamina nodes and the duelling sword you can just stand in the middle of maulers spam special and turn your brain off

[buoyant citrus]

Sounds good thank you <3

[spark swallow]

other classes still ok with DS, but not psyker

[near wyvern]

I beg to differ

you can eat mauler & crusher overheads with DS and not give a dime

while killing them

[gray juniper]

Have you verified that?

I do want to know

[near wyvern]

all you gotta do is know to spam one button

[potent echo]

does the parry absorb overheads

[near wyvern]

yes

[hollow current]

Scriers + 25 DD stacks tho

[potent echo]

owo

[near wyvern]

making a clip

[spark swallow]

tested that, it eats at my stam.

[subtle igloo]

Thinking of a funny build

[spark swallow]

unless I got something wrong since mods aren't up to date yet

[potent echo]

bcr and stam curios

[spark swallow]

I wanted to test that in isolatedd env

[gilded plover]

So far ive been using Chainsword and Infantry Autogun. The autogun has very fast rate of fire and pretty good dmg, the chainsword has good cleave and when used with special I can "one shot" maulers/ragers, and lots of bleed

[subtle igloo]

Crystalline Will will let me play suicide psyker

[spark swallow]

this is actually really funny.

[subtle igloo]

Yes

[viscid matrix]

Looks like it does

#psyker-class message

[subtle igloo]

New psyker meta

[spark swallow]

its very slightly-tiny tinge kind of useful now

[gray juniper]

I’ll wait for the clip

[weary crane]

There's a delay between blocking time unlike dclaw

[gray juniper]

Sir. It’s called martydom psyker and I invented it

[subtle igloo]

It also doesn’t say if it has a cooldown

[left basin]

someone checked and it's still not reaching a bunch of breakpoints

[weary crane]

It does overload your peril through right?

[viscid matrix]

Now we can edge the warp, explode to kill a rager or 2, then go back to edging again

[hollow current]

holyyy

[subtle igloo]

It’s essentially a free shout

[viscid matrix]

DS4 my beloved melee, you are still the best

[near wyvern]

damn you were faster than me

[gray juniper]

Omg it doesn’t even eat up the stamina

[forest jolt]

that's cuz of kinetic deflection

[viscid matrix]

It eats peril

[gray juniper]

I know why but still

[hollow current]

yeah I have KD

[near wyvern]

yeah you take kinetic deflection & ghost and become a god amongst mere mortals

[gray juniper]

PFFFFT 58% peril for an overhead. I’d buy that every time

[spark swallow]

jeez, RIP that amount of peril

[viscid matrix]

Good way to get peril Dr from 0

[hollow current]

you get to keep your stam tho to skedaddle away like a goblin

[gray juniper]

Psyker gets dueling sword buff

[spark swallow]

just for mark V

[viscid matrix]

Slight damage nerf, in exchange, unkillable

[gray juniper]

Zealot mains shrieking

[viscid matrix]

All DS get parry and riposte?

[spark swallow]

yep

but the damage buff is for mark 5 only

[gray juniper]

Nah dude. This new feature is definitely a buff itself

[viscid matrix]

The riposte does 650, so damage buff

[spark swallow]

ah my bad, Mk V has 700, the other 650

but MK V has no stab iirc

so repost would be the stab

[gray juniper]

Now we can watch the arby run off and die on his own and it’s irrelevant

[hollow current]

MK V duelling sword parries for less peril than MK VI for me.

[rigid iris]

is this worth for scriers

[spark swallow]

tho horde cleaaring with DS on psyker (yeah, meme-like right?) feels way more harder now

[jagged kindle]

Quick question, what is considered critical peril? Like what percentage is it?

[hollow current]

33% vs 45%

[spark swallow]

yep, get with crack of bone(?)

[radiant frigate]

97%+

[rigid iris]

peam

time to go hit things with sword

[viscid matrix]

Pretty sure passive quelling is just the natural peril degen after you stop gaining peril

So yes

[hollow current]

Oh. I think it's the defences stat.

[rigid iris]

I'm so used to fatshark having weird hidden changes that I need to ask anyways 😭

[zealous wing]

too early to tell if hidden bs

[spark swallow]

its just not disclosed but iirc it was in the base stats of psyker

[viscid matrix]

Its fatshart, they like adding hidden shit

[hollow current]

It doesn't say it reduces block cost but I guess it does. Another hidden stat lmao

[vast yew]

This is probably good for almost everything

-80% Passive Quell letting you stay at high perils for Warp Rider/Unstable is huge

[zealous wing]

not good for facetanking DHs but otherwise yes

[spark swallow]

You can ditch stam curio or buff your stam a bit more with this

[vast yew]

... That's fair

[spark swallow]

I mean why would we face tank DH xD

that sounds like a meme move

[zealous wing]

because we can

[spark swallow]

doesn't mean we should xD

[strong gulch]

Saved a lot of H40s by face tanking a DH because of KD.

[zealous wing]

in rituals its a very likely possibility

[ripe obsidian]

KD is love

KD is life

[strong gulch]

yes lol

DH sometimes spawn in way later than they should.

[spark swallow]

I mean KD has always been like one of the best nodes.
allows you to "ACTUALLY FKNG PICK UP OTHERS IF THEY'RE DOWN"

[marble crater]

Gameslantern trees are already updated, those guys really are great

[viscid matrix]

With deflector it’s even better

Gunners can’t stop us

[ripe obsidian]

It is true.

[zealous wing]

well gunners can still stop you from res

[spark swallow]

normally I just slide around, but this infact is still true

[ripe obsidian]

You do not need to sell me on Deflector

[zealous wing]

deflector is directional, but oh so valuable

[viscid matrix]

Get yourself a deflector Illisi, it’s only job is blocking gunfire while you res, and kill hordes

[zealous wing]

i have an FGS with deflector

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos, not Illisi

[spark swallow]

I heard H40 psykers actually praises this blessing (I wouldn't know, I'm a filthy casual)

[zealous wing]

it lets you block fucking bullets

[ripe obsidian]

I am an H40 Psyker. I praise Deflector.

[viscid matrix]

Unless they changed it, Illisi has same breakpoints for the hordes with and without deflector

[quartz barn]

I just get carried by EE, miss me with deflector

[ripe obsidian]

If you want horde clear, take FGS

Deimos and Obscurus are both much stronger

[zealous wing]

if you want crusher deletion, take FGS

[viscid matrix]

Fair, haven’t gotten a good one yet to test that

[vast yew]

Deflector is great on Illisi and Deimos. I personally wouldn't take it on Obscurus or the FGS though, because they get a lot out of having both blessing slots open for other stuff.

[near wyvern]

Kinetic deflection + ghost (2 stamina + 1 stamina on the way) and one stamina curio. Not that bad. 10% on a perfect parry, 35% on a partial parry. Death in the end to prove that I have damage on.

https://streamable.com/6ntzry

[ripe obsidian]

FGS is just a better Illisi

[vast yew]

Especially with Unstable being easier to upkeep now

[near wyvern]

maulers obviously even easier

[dusk void]

Not sure which to take, soulstealer or souldrinker for a new soulblaze build

[ripe obsidian]

The extra stamina curio wouldn't add terribly much, since it's % max stamina.

[viscid matrix]

What’s the stamina cost to block with fgs compared to Illisi?
Or are they the same?

[ripe obsidian]

Both.

[dusk void]

Really? I mean, it can’t hurt

[spark swallow]

10 for PParry? that sounds really nice.

[ripe obsidian]

Based on attack. No idea. Probably similar, not a thing I think about much

[vast yew]

There's an argument for Illisi if you want more mobility, to be fair

[upper sun]

dawg wtf is this 😭

[ripe obsidian]

I would and will

[upper sun]

they were supposed to nerf ds4

[vast yew]

They did, but Psykers got a boost as it was least broken on us

[spark swallow]

they did, they're mostly for heavy targets now

[zealous wing]

FGS is better

clip incoming

[quartz barn]

But can ds4 still onetap muties

[wraith sphinx]

Um

Unsure

[quartz barn]

Because that and vs crushers was its main use anyway

And mobility ofc

[summer prairie]

A vet who didn't know about the tree reset in our havoc (finished the map though)

[ripe obsidian]

This is most likely going to be my Inferno + Deimos build

[zealous wing]

FGS is like, 2x more efficient

looks to be 1.5 peril per, while illisi is 3 peril per

[cold hornet]

Unless they touched wildfirem I still don't think its worth it, just trialing empyric shock and primary spamming after full charging seems good

[viscid matrix]

Good to know, time to spend gold getting the perfect FGS

[rough gale]

Did the update change anything on psyker class?

[zealous wing]

oh boy did they

[vast yew]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-laugh-laughing-you-serious-jk-simmons-gif-6107729

[viscid matrix]

DS can parry crusher and mauler slams

[hollow current]

GFS gets +4 Stam while the regular ones get +2

[radiant frigate]

oh boy crushers got their health juiced up considerably

[zealous wing]

skill tree rework, merges, removals, additions

[radiant frigate]

loving these patch notes

[cosmic cobalt]

mostly addition

[vast yew]

Yeah almost doubled, though supposedly the spawn rate was lowered

[viscid matrix]

Yeh, it having over 6k hp in damnation is kinda nuts now

[upper sun]

my beloved bolt pistol no longer one taps gunners 😭

[marble crater]

It's so beautiful

[spark swallow]

I can see that Jump Binded to ALT and used Xbox overlay recording xD

[cosmic cobalt]

it is lowered

[marble crater]

Clad in shambles

[radiant frigate]

bolt pisstol

[ripe obsidian]

No EE?

[marble crater]

No, I just dodge

[ripe obsidian]

Gross

[vast yew]

I would only forgo EE if I had bubble

[marble crater]

Even better now that Xbox also has a dodge counter

[zealous wing]

lmao nvidia

[vast yew]

and even then I'd probably think real hard about just taking EE

[zealous wing]

but yes jump is alt xD

[marble crater]

I'm built different

[zealous wing]

i usually remember to cut it out of my clips but this was pretty unecessary

[quartz barn]

Just change the nvidia keybinds smh

[ripe obsidian]

Brain Rupture

Damage increase is now calculated as a Multiplier (will increase all subsequent bonuses)

:o

[gilded plover]

explain the build, whats it about

[spark swallow]

how'd you guys got creature spawner working? I don't see any updates yet on that mod

[rough gale]

Aight do they didn't change anything on psyker class except ds can parrycrushers and maulers

[knotty sage]

What does that mean? "Lightning Storm - Removed and made baseline."

[vast yew]

Also, like, the whole skill tree

[pale prairie]

Ew he has souldrinker /s

[rough gale]

Oh shieee thanks

[radiant frigate]

means that smite now smites better by default

[quartz barn]

The 1 extra jump node is standard now

[pale prairie]

They increased peril gen slightly

[mint matrix]

assail better now that its not locked out of psykinetics

[spark swallow]

sort of.

or slightly

[marble crater]

Spam Elektro staff and Shriek

[radiant frigate]

mettle now no longer has bonkers insane reconlas synergy

i can use other weapons now

[patent mango]

"Added 1000 new bonding conversations across all player characters."

whatever man

got dam

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[mint matrix]

oh and they changed the damage node of venting shriek

to a debuffing node

[radiant frigate]

the real GOAT of the patch notes

[ripe obsidian]

It is still never going to be picked

[mint matrix]

true

[quartz barn]

More character romances

[spice flame]

Imaging bonding

[spark swallow]

DH Romance route open now?

[quartz barn]

Also my psyker getting more flame for liking xenos but eh

[ripe obsidian]

Hmmmmmm

[radiant frigate]

i don't see it in patch notes

[gilded plover]

sounds fun

[pale prairie]

But instead perfect timing now gives damage to recon las on crit….

[ripe obsidian]

Enemies shrieked take 10% more damage and deal 10% less

[spice flame]

and it's still bad

[mint matrix]

mhm

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[spark swallow]

yep still bad

[ripe obsidian]

There is basically no instance where 10% damage is better than 6 stacks of fire.

[vague musk]

going to make my max peril smite more fun

[ripe obsidian]

I meant OwtW is not new

[marble crater]

It's very fun

[spice flame]

well we could argue that it's team oriented ... But still

[spark swallow]

shriek with soul blaze can clear hordes in matters of seconds and allows us to focus on more important targets.

[ripe obsidian]

My team won't do more damage than my extra fire.

[pale prairie]

The team is helped by killing the heretics

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[radiant frigate]

it also gives damage to FORCE BIGSWORD

[spice flame]

for sure

[strong gulch]

The all new "One with the Warp". Never heard of this talent before because it's new.

[vague musk]

I feel psyker might be a lot more tanky now

[cold hornet]

Did they change In Fire Reborn to only your kills granting the extra charge, or still any death with soulblaze on it counts?

[pale prairie]

Couldn’t find anything more definitive about “It’s all a dream”

[spark swallow]

yoo thats awesome, new talent node makes us tankier Kappa

[hollow current]

I just noticed it got moved out of my build path.

[spark swallow]

after doing some runs, it is.

[vague musk]

25% less damage when not at critical peril, 10% damage resist overall, OwtW, etc

[spice flame]

That's whaty I'm using with Purga, but I might wanna drop Immaterial focus for Warp Ghost

[viscid matrix]

That’s not new tho, fairly sure we have always had that one

[wind wind]

Aight Guys. Imma be in here a while asking for pointers. Due to the Update imma have to redo 32 builds across 4 characters. Imma start with psyker.

[weary crane]

Yeah you can't parry chaos spawn or twin combos with duel sword

[spark swallow]

read the screen shot xD

[patent mango]

no its new dont question it

[rigid iris]

owtw isn't new iirc

[viscid matrix]

Not gonna take that peril scaling rend?

[pale prairie]

They stealth buffed our toughness from 30 optional to 50 mandatory from tree

[spice flame]

which one ?

[pale prairie]

PoTS

[viscid matrix]

penetration of the soul

It makes staves amazing

[spice flame]

ah

no

[zealous wing]

im sobbing

[spice flame]

it's meh

[zealous wing]

they massacered FGS

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno does not need Rending

[pale prairie]

20% now

[wind wind]

First build, voidstrike staff. From what i remember its a staff thats a gun, so Keystone should be DD.

Any other pointers? What else is a must have on a voidstrike build?

[left basin]

wuh

[pale prairie]

Hahaha cause of enemy health pool increases?

[patent mango]

?

[ripe obsidian]

Soulblaze has obscene armor modifier. No Rending

[strong gulch]

But it has to be new. It's under the "new talents" section.

(it's not new nor has it been changed; it's just a mistake )

[viscid matrix]

Crit

[zealous wing]

they're fucking SHIT 😭

[patent mango]

lmao

[pale prairie]

Should have gotten the inquisitor versions

[left basin]

dd scriers is funny

[zealous wing]

i fuckin KNOW dude i saw someone with it and i am so jealous

[viscid matrix]

Lmao
Wait people use those skins? They are and have always been garbage

It’s been 3 years and we still have only the red and blue alt colours

[pale prairie]

I am wondering if having Warpsplitting and Penetration of the soul will help

[vast yew]

There's a part of me that wants to try Scrier's-Voidstrike with the new 30% Quell Speed node

[left basin]

but expect nonsense, it's kinda a helbore, but with random bouts of fierce world ending hatred

[zealous wing]

i just want to be able to make it look like the other mark is that too much to ask (yes) 😭

[viscid matrix]

Do it
Try it in an auric, see how it feels

[left basin]

warpsplitting works, pots is idk, i had it

[strong gulch]

These look free. They better be free. I swear there was a red one similar to this in the real money shop.

[ashen lance]

scriers with electro staff been goin hard

[zealous wing]

they are in commissary

[spark swallow]

its the free ones

[left basin]

huh

[spark swallow]

they've never updated that

[zealous wing]

i got them because fuck it i have several mil ordo

[viscid matrix]

Immaterial focus seems amazing for a edging playstyle

[vague musk]

a small look into my totally good talent selection (i havent tried it yet)

[pale prairie]

These are the ones you buy with dockets. Same skins just got spread to other weapons

[viscid matrix]

All 4 are amazing, it’s hard not to take them

[left basin]

broken upside down halberd

[spice flame]

I'm not sure Immaterial focus is reaaaaally worth the investment

[zealous wing]

at LEAST its not as bad as the mastery skin

[vestal flower]

Is Purloin Providence worth it?

[strong gulch]

Sounds like a disease.

[wind wind]

I am completley overwhelmed. Sooo much Info...
Across sooo many classes.... And i'll have to redo 8 builds pern class

I am this close shutting down my game and playing medieval II total war instead....

[zealous wing]

nothing can top the mastery skins for worst creations ever

[pale prairie]

I want to know if Just A Dream only affects health damage

[viscid matrix]

10% Dr always while also stun immune seems pretty epic for someone who edges at critical all the time

[marble crater]

Start by making one build for each class and then you do the rest of the builds when you actually want to play them

[spark swallow]

iirc when I was trying out the build, I had to decide between 2 melee styles.

1. always on high perils
2. always trying to lower peril

I picked the one with 10% reduction for low peril and the up to 33% reduction for high peril build

not sure if its the same idea as other people uses it

[vast yew]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[pale prairie]

What in the game is a stun?? Like being knocked out of animations by attacks?

[spice flame]

when you block and become out of stamina

[wind wind]

I need all of them now. Otherwise my system doesnt work (i rotate each mission).

I never play the same build twice in a row

[viscid matrix]

Yes

Not sure what else would be tho

[marble crater]

rip then

[ripe obsidian]

Ye gods, every enemy has so much more HP. My soulblaze games are gonna hit like 5m damage

[spark swallow]

wait, its different from getting your animation cancelled when you get hit?

[wind wind]

Indeed. If i didnt came back from the gym id open my alcohol bottles now (dont wanna ruin my gains tho)

[viscid matrix]

Tbh I think you should take quietude over soulstealer
It had not generate and quell merged into 1 node

[ornate hamlet]

Anyone got an updated build for soulflame purge staff?

[buoyant citrus]

thank you i got it second try!

[spice flame]

both

[buoyant citrus]

Now i just have to do the private game one

[vague musk]

I'm all over the place, I use smite with the thing that prevents overloading for 10s, but I also get shredded by gunners when not in hoards and at low peril

[pale prairie]

Exactly

[viscid matrix]

Yeh but if you are picking either or

Quietude is better

[vast yew]

I'm also considering swapping to By Crack of Bone so I can stay perma-Scrier's in melee as well

[pale prairie]

The auric ones will look like old havoc

[vast yew]

[spice flame]

quietude do be really nice now

[wind wind]

Also i have no idea about the zealot and psyker talent tree. Vet and arbys i can do, those two ive studied.

But psyker.... I dont even know what 90 percent of the nodes do, i got all my builds by Copy and pasting from people i trust, same with zealot ....

[marble crater]

Clickbait YouTube video inflation will hit hard

[spice flame]

it was okay before, now it's litterally two nodes at once

[spark swallow]

I'd also vet on quietude now esp on stave users or you play around both critical and low peril builds

[pale prairie]

Yep but I am hoping the difficulty will help moderate that

[marble crater]

I lost my auric run because people thought it would be funny to rush into a group of new plasma gunners, out in the open without cover

So yeah probably

[pale prairie]

Lmao

Man you couldn’t carry now?

[wind wind]

All i know about psyker is middle keystone is for blitz centered builds, DD is for gun, warp siphon is for staves, melee psyker goes whereever he is least inconveniencing.

[wraith sphinx]

damn the slop shop rotation is crammed full of bundles

[pale prairie]

DD as well

[patent mango]

melee psyker is the slayer bardin of this game

[marble crater]

I was overrun by maulers and plasma gunners, had no room to dodge

[pale prairie]

We got extra TDR

[potent echo]

nuh uh

we need more attack speed

[mint matrix]

plasma gunners have carapace helmets?

[potent echo]

im only press m1 like twice per second

[wraith sphinx]

I like the zealot sets and am mad jealous I can't get them for psyker

[wind wind]

Auric has been full of shitters before the update. I dread it now....

[vast yew]

Another go at the Voidstrike/FGS Scrier's

[ripe obsidian]

Disagree. Quietude is good, but depending on the build, you'll get way more value out of killing. Especially now that there are so many toughness over time nodes.

[pale prairie]

That would be fun. Just clone Execution order

[mint matrix]

I was wondering why they seemed tankier than the average scab gunner

[wraith sphinx]

think of them as ranged maulers

[mint matrix]

mhm

[pale prairie]

I mean on stave builds yeah. But on gunker or melee….

[ripe obsidian]

I did say depending on the build

[pale prairie]

The increased health pools of a bunch of elites makes me wonder

[wraith sphinx]

I run warp expenditure and mettle on gunker myself

[wind wind]

Does the extra buildup of peril while scgz is running not inconvenience you/lead to blow ups? Can you give me a short instructions note ad to how to play that build?

[left basin]

solidity seems overboard

[ripe obsidian]

New Warp Expenditure is absurd

[pale prairie]

As if there was any doubt

[vast yew]

Hmmmmmm you right

[pale prairie]

No u.

[wraith sphinx]

big boy pants

[left basin]

i went for it too, but ended up having eternal scriers. MAYBE if you go for precognition on scriers instead

[weary crane]

Crusher hordes a fucking insane now

[left basin]

that'd be actually benefitting both

[wraith sphinx]

Which is not surprising in the slightest considering the still prevalent sentiment that psyker is somehow bad at melee

[pale prairie]

Oh man treasure these glitches before they go away like naked psyker

[ripe obsidian]

You put on your big kid pants

[patent mango]

they have been resurfacing since launch they aint goin anywhere

[mint matrix]

played gunker with a trauma staff in an auric.... had near permanent uptime on scriers and was just press w;ing forward the entire time

[pale prairie]

I thought it was people just not changing outfits once they lock in the naked

[ripe obsidian]

Current meleeker is gonna be OP, I fear, and get nerfed hard

[wraith sphinx]

doubt it lol

[pale prairie]

Doubt

[viscid matrix]

My build, until we learn weather just a dream and immaterial focus are shit or not

[gray juniper]

No seriously those plasma guys are. One missed sound cue or one poorly timed frame drop and you’re toughness/health is gone

[wraith sphinx]

you would need the entire playerbase to ditch arbooby and no life psyker 24/7 for that to happen

[ripe obsidian]

No perfect timing. >:(

[pale prairie]

And with the tiny slap on the wrist they got. Not likely

[gray juniper]

Wait… I’m no life psyker..

[wraith sphinx]

yeah the arby nerf was greatly exaggerated lmao

[left basin]

IS OBSCURUS STILL ASS

[wraith sphinx]

still a step in the right direction

[ripe obsidian]

It hasn't been bad for like 6 months

[wraith sphinx]

also unrelated but

I ALMOST like it

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-happy-easter-disaster-april-fools-day-fluffy-gif-11463156

[zealous wing]

time for the next couple week long "yay or nay"

[patent mango]

CRYSTALLINE WILL GOO

[vast yew]

Obscurus hasn't been ass for a while

[viscid matrix]

Can’t afford unless I drop 2 other ones

[pale prairie]

Oh boohoo 5% less damage on EO and 8-6 dog bleed stacks.

20 less base toughness is good at least.

But now break the line counts as blocking during the charge so still the best ability

[wraith sphinx]

yeah

I wonder if juxtaposing these was intentional

[tepid python]

me when i slime myself

[pale prairie]

Almost cool is a good description

[wraith sphinx]

yeah it's just a bit too steampunky for my sensibilities

and I dislike uncovered shoulders

[zealous wing]

also they really fuckin.... did huh?

[viscid matrix]

If I could afford the points I would

[left basin]

how so. was the strikedown thingy that good

[mint matrix]

any thoughts on a crystalline will meme build

[untold glacier]

how's melee psyker

[left basin]

i never tried it

[pale prairie]

It’s the leather pants, leather sleeves and then big poofy skirt for me

[ripe obsidian]

It is 99°F with 80% humidity today. Hell.

[marble crater]

What about uncovered ankles?

[left basin]

satanic

[untold glacier]

how satanic

[wraith sphinx]

haram

[patent mango]

stab stabby stab

[ripe obsidian]

The single target combo is the fastest crusher killer in the game

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/karolina-zebrowska-thug-edwardian-lady-thug-life-thug-ankle-ankle-gif-16610294

[strong gulch]

RIP

[pale prairie]

Is it still?

[viscid matrix]

Course they did, gotta put the best cosmetics behind a paywall, then recolour the coat to charge players again

[left basin]

you are do me a big desire of boom

[ripe obsidian]

Dunno. Probably.

[patent steeple]

btw, would Puppet Master allow me to gain Warp Charges via Psychic Vamp from teammates further away? idr anymore...

[ripe obsidian]

Probably.

[pale prairie]

I am curious about how the health pool changes are affecting how “OP” everything is

[zealous wing]

lucky for me i like the one i have more than the blue

[marble crater]

Yeah, remember, coherency is a chain

[pale prairie]

Like doubling crusher HP isn’t nothing

[upper sun]

@plucky flax make some builds so i can copy them thanks

[zealous wing]

agent doesnt wanna ever play dt again

[ripe obsidian]

Bromentum weapons in shambles

[pale prairie]

Oh good point. My Billy club Ogryn

[zealous wing]

see, im currently torn because, i want the stave skin, really bad, i fucking love it

but i dont stave psyker often

[wraith sphinx]

eh I'm going to get the top, I do like the gloves

[pale prairie]

Who knows you might try it sometime

[viscid matrix]

Generic staff kill from a distance build

This isn’t fast unlike gunker builds with the move speed

[ripe obsidian]

I think that the buffed HP numbers will be of limited importance in H40. Breakpoints were already barely a thing.

[strong gulch]

Would you rather buy yourself a snack or the staff skin?

[zealous wing]

yeah but its also a hassle to buy more aquilas and im sitting at 1900, also kind of wanting the torso piece

[royal totem]

oh is there a new skin?

[plucky flax]

Too hard I can only bubble knight

[royal totem]

i just woke up so i know nothing

[ripe obsidian]

Mood.

[pale prairie]

Yeah. Inferno staff stonks even higher now

[left basin]

drool

[upper sun]

ayo wtf is that

[strong gulch]

My main consern with HP changes are with EK in non-havocs tbh.

[pale prairie]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

So long as someone kills the scary Crushers and the un-suppressable Plasma Gunners

[wraith sphinx]

It's my new meat mallet

[ripe obsidian]

Fair concern.

[strong gulch]

Also, did I see something about BB scaling??

[pale prairie]

Okay I’ll probably buy this

[ripe obsidian]

You did

[viscid matrix]

We can face tank crusher slam, then kill them

They not scary anymore

[ripe obsidian]

In H40? Doubt.

[pale prairie]

It’s multiplicative now with damage increases

[upper sun]

but rogue trader taught me that we cant use the staves of psykers of other disciplines!!!!!!

[viscid matrix]

Parry

[strong gulch]

KK. Adding it to the list of things to check out.

[royal totem]

can you explain this in dumber english the actual effects? >.<

[zealous wing]

you could always parry them

[ripe obsidian]

Do it to one crusher, then die to everything else

[zealous wing]

just now you can do it with a decent ish weapon i guess

[viscid matrix]

Fair 😉

[pale prairie]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1420020752433938572/image0.jpg?ex=68d3e0e2&is=68d28f62&hm=833144afa6e600920a88abc7606e56238dd8a804ce4685eba88092e8da1a733f&

@royal totem

[ripe obsidian]

You could always parry with the combat sword

[pale prairie]

This was the entirety of the note

[wraith sphinx]

cringe trader lol!

[zealous wing]

reject discipline is use whatever the fuck you can

[gray juniper]

DAYUM that looks secksee

[zealous wing]

thats why i want it even tho i dont stave 😭

[left basin]

when will bb oneshot fatsoes

[pale prairie]

Well now with my frontline psyker build….yeah I can do that for you

[strong gulch]

-Revive Speed and Assist Speed now both affect the speed of which you Rescue, Revive, Help, and Pull Up allies

-Added ability to select region manually in the Mourningstar's Havoc menu.

[severe folio]

how is the dueling sword buff treating everyone

[left basin]

you remember the attack chain?

[pale prairie]

I am wondering what kind of breakpoints get hit with the new 20% damage on ogryns node

[left basin]

considering flargsnork's distaste for mafs i doubt we'll get any

[pale prairie]

This is what happened with hexis havoc 8

[left basin]

especially with the Nu HP

[zealous wing]

yeah no fucking idea why i was rubberbanding so badly

[pale prairie]

Also when revived now you have 1 sec of immunity and 4 sec of 50% DR. So fire revival is back on the menus

[left basin]

psykers can ignore crusher overheads

25% peril with kinetic

[zealous wing]

bro devils claw already allowed that this is nothing new

[strong gulch]

But my funny clips. I've been nerfed.

[vast yew]

Good news for Bubble Knight: Perfect Timing now applies to non-Warp attacks.

[pale prairie]

Cause it automatically region selects on the majority. Now you can manually select like in regular mission menu

[pale prairie]

Doesn’t say they can’t be barreled

[zealous wing]

thats fucking wild but good news for the future i guess

[strong gulch]

You right!! Silver lining.

[modest gazelle]

Talent Tree update?

[left basin]

devil's cock looks like a circumsized, kid-friendly guts sword

[strong gulch]

Good changes to the the game.

Me: Oh no my ridiculousness has been nerfed. SAD

[zealous wing]

and DS is overrated anyway

[modest gazelle]

Im excited about those very small dots

[plucky flax]

I saw i need to test a couple variations. Warp expenditure looks super good for melee

[pale prairie]

But your build randomizer has been buffed

[plucky flax]

Big toughness gen

[zealous wing]

but suipsyker

the meme could legitimately work well now

[vast yew]

Also combined with Warp Ghost; speaking of which, Unstable might be about to break into the Meta something fierce

[gray juniper]

Yesssir

[pale prairie]

Yes zealot huge overhaul. Vet tree rework. Psyker rework as well. That order in magnitude of changes

[plucky flax]

What's warp ghost

[marble crater]

New best talent

[modest gazelle]

Soon we fight KHORNE ENEMIES

I wish we could switch and travel planets

i dont wanna be stuck in tertium forever

[pale prairie]

Always has been

[gray juniper]

Ngl I feel pretty tanky with ghost

[plucky flax]

Looks nice for melee to stay high peril and keep it up with assails

[upper sun]

so balanced 🙏

[plucky flax]

Does it affect the delay until peril start to quell?

[upper sun]

ye

[plucky flax]

Or only the amount per tick

[pale prairie]

*and other concurrent talents…

[upper sun]

both i think

[plucky flax]

Okay I see

[upper sun]

it starts a bit slower and ticks A LOT slower

[plucky flax]

I dont trust clad

[left basin]

kf is really funny

[plucky flax]

Someone test the delay

[left basin]

i'm standing in meatgrinder afking for 5 minutes

[marble crater]

Imagine you were in Gaze for a long time and then try to quell, that's how slow it ticks down

[upper sun]

no hes right yesterday was my first psyker game

im just level 1