psyker-class

[dusk timber]

a lot of them have godawful scaling on their stats

so using anything thats not nearly maxed out is going to massively underperform

[ruby cypress]

Huh... good to know.

[zealous wing]

first rule of psyker, dont get hit.
long as you can manoeuvre, you can indeed be a frontliner (i have a sort of berserker build i've got that works great most of the time)

melee psyker goes hard, psyker with a gun goes harder, esp considering the gun is mainly there for mobility and range takeouts only

EK build is also working fine, though its not melee centered

if you dont have a mobility stick(melee or ranged) you're slow. you can still dodge and move but its much harder to master

[ruby cypress]

I believe it! It's definitely weird for me to not always be using melee, but I feel like Psyker is a huge "trial by fire" for Darktide, if you're trying to be the Wizard Lizard like I want to be. You play a MASSIVELY different role as the "Wizard" Psyker and I love it... I'm just having a hard time figuring it out/getting the hang of it.

[dusk timber]

psyker is def the class that most wants to have at least one high mobility weapon equipped

[ruby cypress]

I've been thinking about swapping my blaze greatsword for the smaller one with the... soul... suck... ability? I don't know what it is, but it's probably faster than the greatsword?

[dusk timber]

not really iirc

[ripe obsidian]

Top 3 got a prize. >:(

[ruby cypress]

Huh... well, I'll try it anyway. I've been getting into the Warp Charge thing, and with the ability basically being an Elite killer, I might try it to steal kills and get my stacks.

[dusk timber]

actually no you do get better dodge stats

with the regular sword

[ruby cypress]

Ooooo! Welp, I'm trying that when I get home!

[tulip kettle]

nope and nope

nope nope nope

what has this chat become

[ripe obsidian]

Madness and villainy

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/scum-wretched-villany-tattooine-gif-10985312

[wraith sphinx]

just go gun psyker and terminate everything

be bold, advocate for a groundbreaking new wizard paradigm

[ripe obsidian]

Gunzard

Gunpowder Sage

[pale prairie]

Swordzard

[dusk timber]

"i may be out of spells but im not out of shells"

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-denken-i-cast-fist-fist-wizard-fern-gif-17983721926464571404

[ruby cypress]

I might... but as a secondary build.

[pale prairie]

You can absolutely be melee focused psyker

[wraith sphinx]

fair

[pale prairie]

You just need to forget everything you learned from arbites

[dusk timber]

and ogryn

and zealot

[pale prairie]

Training arc time

https://tenor.com/view/demon-slayer-training-gif-20773445

[buoyant maple]

You just need basic melee fundamentals

Psyker gets to largely ignore a lot of mechanics other classes normally have to deal with

[ruby cypress]

I wanna be a Wizard Lizard, zipping around the battlefield with white fire, terminal headaches and sarcastic remarks.

[wraith sphinx]

the belcher

[pale prairie]

What things do psyker get to ignore out of curiosity

[wraith sphinx]

ammo

[pale prairie]

Melee

[wraith sphinx]

using stamina for blocking

[pale prairie]

Ogryn has insane stamina and same with arbites?

[wraith sphinx]

While I would love to grab and throw you at a row of gunners and snipers on an unreachable ledge that's unfortunately not an option to deal with ranged enemies

[buoyant maple]

Nah ogryn is same stamina management as vet

U just have more stamina

But a lot of ogryn weapons have rly bad sprint cost

[buoyant maple]

Horde density
Stamina management

[pale prairie]

True and yet having like 8 stamina and Slam I don’t manage it either

[buoyant maple]

On the flip side psyker melee in general is not good at directly engaging in melee vs mixed horde

Like

[pale prairie]

In melee????

[buoyant maple]

FGS hits like no stagger breakpoints on enemies that matter with light or heavy attacks

[buoyant maple]

Yea stamina management basically doesn’t exist on psyker

Op

[pale prairie]

Yeah that’s true. you said they get to ignore stuff other classes have to deal with. But they don’t ignore mixed hordes.

Also not having any talents helping with stagger

[buoyant maple]

It comes down to how many elites u kill to snowball soulblaze

[pale prairie]

Or toughness on stagger

[pale prairie]

I don’t run soulblaze on melee psyker though

[wraith sphinx]

having perilous combustion is enough to make you ATF employee of the month basically

unless the dogs catch you sleeping you can just flick shards or shoot gun or shoot staff and basically ignore them

[pale prairie]

Having perilous combustion doesn’t just let you ignore certain melee mechanics though

[wraith sphinx]

no that's what kinetic deflector does

[pale prairie]

Cool I get extra block. Blocking isn’t all of melee combat though

[wraith sphinx]

it's a lot of succesful melee combat

[pale prairie]

Unless you go all in on DC I guess

[wraith sphinx]

it's especially important for a psyker because you can ill afford to tank any kind of damage

[buoyant maple]

Yea it does
U can spread damage (quite substantial given enough elite/special kills) in a mixed horde to enemies u normally can’t cleave enough to hit

[jovial juniper]

Don't worry
You can use your single target force shove with (I don't have the frame data)ms speed for staggering single target
Have I said single target enough?

Single target

[buoyant maple]

FGS has group stagger actually

Warp slash

[jovial juniper]

Yeah 0 bar

[buoyant maple]

I think it also has extended stagger duration

[jovial juniper]

Which uh
Yeah
Stagger

[buoyant maple]

It’s medium stagger but lasts almost as long as a heavy stagger

[jovial juniper]

Ooh

Worth checking out later

[zealous wing]

you can also still normal shove groups

not a stagger but, the push isnt only singletarget just the extended one

[pale prairie]

You still have to get the snowballs started by gaining kills in melee.

[zealous wing]

honestly very nice for bursters

[jovial juniper]

Yeah but that's just push

Push is just push

Nothing really special about it

And Ogryn by default has better push

[buoyant maple]

Yea which is not hard

[jovial juniper]

All roads lead to ogryn

[zealous wing]

no, but its not an either or situation either, so a weapon that i can actively choose what to stagger is nice, and theres no limit

[wraith sphinx]

esp with that middle tree push talent

[zealous wing]

i can open a bulwark up to lethal attack with FGS force push

and ogryn is, onlly slightly less painful than zealot

zealot being bottom of the barrel of enjoyment imo

[wraith sphinx]

nah I love oggy and zealot both

veteran is my least liked class now

[pale prairie]

Soulblaze doesn’t mean I can ignore how to survive in melee crush without yellow toughness, stagger tools, or on hit toughness regen or impact improvements or flat melee damage increases

The FGS slash does give a medium stagger but requires the time to activate. If you get slightly bumped in that animation you lose it

[zealous wing]

veteran was a good one to start with tbh

not much there perks or negatives out of the gate

its just there

[wraith sphinx]

I mean it's the fucking john/jane guardsman fantasy

almost everyone loves that

I think fatshark kind of overdid the underdog vibe of being a mundane human weapon specialist though

[pale prairie]

I think they just got left behind by the buffing of other classes and the increase in difficulty

[buoyant maple]

You don’t need yellow toughness to do basic melee, u mostly just need to know which of ur attacks are actually good for staggering things that matter and work ur way up from there

None of the other things u mentioned are necessary except stagger tools which u do have and on the 2 force weapon types, both have technically better stagger than most other melee weapons

Of the 7 common major stagger breakpoints 4 are most useful and the other 3 are kinda just nice to have

[pale prairie]

You said being able to ignore things. Yellow toughness lets you do that and just spam left click.

I am bringing up tools that let you “ignore things that other classes have to deal with”

[buoyant maple]

Yellow toughness is not required for basic melee fundamentals

[pale prairie]

You have basic block push and the single target push (single target) which is great that you can hard stagger the one elite in the train. Now what to do with the rest?

[pale prairie]

Again you said psyker just needs basic melee fundamentals but can ignore stuff unlike other classes.

The vet spamming VoC can ignore chip damage

Psyker doesn’t have that

Ogryn can spam left click or heavies with most weapons and the impact and stagger (not to mention toughness on stagger or hit) lets them ignore chip damage or getting surrounded. Not to mention dodges knocking over medium enemies

Arbites is arbites and can sit in fire without taking health damage

I don’t see really what the psyker has in their kit that means they can ignore things other classes have to deal with while in melee.

The KD is a good point with blocking

[buoyant maple]

Melee fundamentals don’t require any of those u literally just need to understand dodging, blocking, horde control, which attacks to use for which enemies, whether or not ur weapon can stagger specific enemies, etc

All of the things ur mentioning makes it easier but the fundamentals don’t change

And you can largely ignore 2 parts within this with stamina management and mixed horde damage spread because u can damage and kill things u can’t cleave through enough to hit

[pale prairie]

Absolutely agree BUT I disagree with the part about Psykers ignoring aspects of melee that other classes have to deal with.

[buoyant maple]

That’s literally it

[pale prairie]

Okay so you’re saying KD and spreading like 4 soul blaze stacks per elite killed allow you to ignore mixed hordes

[buoyant maple]

That is not what I said

What I said was that u could mechanically bypass the mass/cleave mechanic with soulblaze spreading by targeting priority enemies in a mixed horde to damage enemies that ur melee wouldn’t be able to hit otherwise if confined to mass/cleave

[pale prairie]

Agreed and true. But I don’t think that magically makes Psyker melee easier than on other classes. Maybe I am misinterpreting your original statement

[buoyant maple]

No it doesn’t, it just gets to bypass a portion of melee fundamentals, as in understanding mass/cleave

Because u don’t interact with this system the same way most other classes’ melee weapons do

[pale prairie]

I mean you still interact with those mechanics with melee weapons.

[buoyant maple]

Yes, just not to the fullest extent

[pale prairie]

Kay

[buoyant maple]

It’s not inferno

[pale prairie]

Yeah inferno is crazy

[buoyant maple]

U still have mass/cleave u just don’t interact with it the same way a power sword does

[pale prairie]

I guess I just spend more time thinking about what I can cleave and kill through as psyker than I do on Ogryn or vet (power sword)

Speaking of, any good melee weapons on vet or is Power Sword required

[buoyant maple]

Power sword beats almost everything if u want max dps

Tac axe is neat for ranged builds

Combat axe is good for auric

Duelling sword exists and is cringe

Knife exists and is cringe

Heavy sword is similar role as tac axe (low investment self defense) but overall not as good cuz worse dodge profiles, slower atk speed and worse stagger

[pale prairie]

Is this cause of mobility?

Dueling sword and knife are cringe because meta?

[wraith sphinx]

dueling sword fucks you out of properly learning how to melee

unless you know to avoid using the broken op blessings it has

[buoyant maple]

Ez stagger vs rager
Dodge template override (op)
Higher sprint bonus
Good enough mixed horde clear if carapace not involved
With crits it can do acceptable damage to carapace and unyielding
And it doesn’t need trench fighter

[jovial juniper]

So all of them

[pale prairie]

Because it oneshots elites?

[pale prairie]

What is dodge template override?

[buoyant maple]

Tac axe is basically the ultimate budget melee

[prime elk]

hsword feels good tho

[jovial juniper]

Oh you'll like this

[buoyant maple]

Certain weapons have this property where their dodge template overrides the class’ innate dodge template

For example veteran’s base dodge distance is 2.5m

Power sword on optimal roll (60% cleave targets) gets 2.2m dodge (-12%)

Tac axe and duelling sword have ninjafencer override for dodge template which sets their base value to 2.75m regardless of class

[pale prairie]

Wow I am unsure if I feel that is a dumb mechanic or not

[buoyant maple]

And then the mobility modifier is multiplied on top of that new value

[pale prairie]

Goddamn

[buoyant maple]

So tac axe on a optimal roll has +6% dodge distance

Which is 2.915m dodge

[pale prairie]

Okay so that’s why people love tac axe

Damn

[buoyant maple]

This is disproportionally strong for classes with lower dodge distance

Psyker and arb

Both have 2m dodge as base

As an example, FGS on a optimal roll gets -7% dodge distance

[pale prairie]

Haha vet has 2.5 m dodge but absolute shit stamina

Sprinter not a marathoner

[buoyant maple]

So you have 2m x0.93 = 1.86m

And tac axe is still 2.915m

[pale prairie]

Whoa what

Because it overrides

Right

[buoyant maple]

Because, like I said, dodge template override

[jovial juniper]

Taxe got ninja recently, right?

[buoyant maple]

It’s disproportionally strong for classes with worse dodge distance

[buoyant maple]

No, always been a thing

[buoyant maple]

Duelling sword has exact same override as tac axe

[jovial juniper]

Oh ok I was about to make a doakes joke

[pale prairie]

Alright I think it is weird to have weapons override a classes dodge distance

[buoyant maple]

Knife has a different override that’s even higher distance

[buoyant maple]

I think it needs to go

[pale prairie]

Yeah

[buoyant maple]

Psyker and arb are balanced around having lower distance dodges

[pale prairie]

Maybe give it to Ogryn for a month just for the hilarity

[buoyant maple]

Nah

[pale prairie]

I am joking

[buoyant maple]

Ogryn has highest dodge distance actually

[jovial juniper]

But

[buoyant maple]

3m base

[pale prairie]

But the hitbox balances it?

[buoyant maple]

Same as knife’s override

But ogryn has no dodge linger and almost all ogryn weapons have dodge distance penalty

So it balances out

[pale prairie]

Dodge linger is like something with I frames?

[buoyant maple]

And ogryn dodge can heavy stagger horde units

[buoyant maple]

No

Dodge in tide games don’t give i-frames

This not dark souls

Dodge works by disabling enemies’ attacks’ tracking on players

[dusk timber]

not with that attitude

[jovial juniper]

Ogryn having the bestest worst dodges in the game

[buoyant maple]

Dodge linger is a brief period after dodge animation is completed where the player character is still considered to be in a dodge state (cannot be tracked by attacks)

This value can vary between classes

Veteran and zealot have 0.25s
Psyker and arb have 0.2s
Ogryn has none

With anticipation, psyker gets 0.3s
With street smarts, arb gets 0.25s

[pale prairie]

Ooooooh so this is what leads to dragging a crusher smash onto someone else? They lock on to another player cause they lose track of original target?

[buoyant maple]

No it’s just the attack being an AoE

U can be untracked but still in the attack’s area

[pale prairie]

Interesting

What a unique way to do this. Did VT2 work the same way?

[jovial juniper]

I keep running backing into the overhead

[buoyant maple]

Even if ur not the one being tracked if u get inside the attack’s hit area u can still get hit

[jovial juniper]

Yup

[buoyant maple]

I think so

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/rizz-rizz-face-chad-begging-gif-1934875823525712000

[jovial juniper]

Happens a lot with me

It's legit the highest cause of me dying

I run back into the attack

[pale prairie]

“The animation is so slow I can sneak a hit in”

[south cedar]

I wish the high peril effect looked five times more difficult to see through

[summer prairie]

Can't get hit by ranged when in dodge state though, even if you dodge directly backwards

[jovial juniper]

Overdrive your peril VFX setting

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/p5u3ca

[jovial juniper]

[pale prairie]

I suspected but good to have confirmation thank you

[pale prairie]

Absolutely riveting and exciting clutch

[wraith sphinx]

Now do the same on psyker 🙂

[pale prairie]

Once I find my boss killing dog I promise

[marble crater]

I always knew you were a pro gamer

[pale prairie]

Stole the footage from Reddit

I would at least slide a couple times to look like I am working hard

[marble crater]

Ah, then I can flame the swings into the air

[pale prairie]

Me no own cop2win

[wraith sphinx]

Why arby mixed?

[pale prairie]

Because people that don’t find it balanced review bomb I assume

[jovial juniper]

Because mid

[pale prairie]

Maybe some people upset about the old EO not working and just didn’t reverse review

[jovial juniper]

Real talk

[marble crater]

Soundtrack more expensive than the game that also has the soundtrack

[jovial juniper]

Probably because the class was broken (bad)

[pale prairie]

Yeah the expert light swing spam while holding W

[jovial juniper]

And Fatshark also took a month vacation

With half working keystones on arbys

[pale prairie]

Art is pricey

[jovial juniper]

💀

Also dog nerf (unintended interactions fixed)

[pale prairie]

Imagine review bombing a class that still is crazy OP while parts of tree are broken

[marble crater]

Noobs

[pale prairie]

Still strong enough to kill bosses. Just takes 3 jumps not 1

[marble crater]

The lot of them

[jovial juniper]

Went from 1 to 3

[pale prairie]

I am praying that the next update even just hints at number reductions just so I can laugh

[jovial juniper]

Huge nerf (unintended interactions fixed)

[wraith sphinx]

Well the class was kind of miss but I assumed the average player would be happy about a noob crutch class?

[marble crater]

We should take the strength from arby and give it to psyker

[pale prairie]

I mean but then you get mad when you realize you aren’t the auric pro you thought and just never play anything but arbites

[jovial juniper]

The average player probably
But I'm not the average player

So I can freely call it mid

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/my-vote-is-for-you-i-vote-for-you-i-like-you-ink-master-paramount-network-gif-15193880

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

[wraith sphinx]

I mean neither am I which is why I thought arby was somewhat dissapointing

[jovial juniper]

The dog is frickin cool though

[pale prairie]

I mean I have never seen someone use Chad face gifs quite so much so he must be pro

[jovial juniper]

Definitely worth 12 bucks for the dog

[pale prairie]

This is accurate

[wraith sphinx]

Not in the "wtf I want a refund!!!" Way but rather just 😐

[jovial juniper]

The human
Eh not so much

[pale prairie]

I feel like it should have been completely focused on dog and companion shit and not just having all of vet and Ogryn talents

[wraith sphinx]

Idk I prefer the human

Dogs fuck with my flow sometimes

[dusk timber]

i like both

[pale prairie]

You need something to set it apart though

[wraith sphinx]

I also like arbited drip and I'm kind of salty we can't get something thematically similar for other human classes

[dusk timber]

the dog is one way it does that

[pale prairie]

That’s true they have some sick armor

[wraith sphinx]

I also love all those facemasks from the slopshop

[pale prairie]

Yeah but then having a node where you delete dog and become the most powerful zealot and vet combo. Thats just lazy

[wraith sphinx]

Not really

[dusk timber]

eh idk

also part of the issue is 100% due to vet and zealot not having received their reworks yet

[wraith sphinx]

They knew how much pull the dog will have so they had to make dogless extra good else people would bitch

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-look-what-they-need-to-mimic-a-fraction-of-our-power-gif-25672186

[pale prairie]

Ridiculous power level

[jovial juniper]

Idk about being stronger than zealot

Nor vet

[wraith sphinx]

Busted + 1 is still busted

[jovial juniper]

Because the balance is so borked the only path you take on their tree is fucking broken

[wraith sphinx]

Arby w dog is still dummy strong man

[jovial juniper]

And as a zealot you still outfinesses and outmelee an Arby's

Because duelist is duelist

[pale prairie]

I am just saying dog at least is mechanically distinct. No dog is just a fat buff. Nothing setting you apart from other classes that use melee and gun

[wraith sphinx]

That's not really a bad thing especially considering the dog isn't just there for show

[pale prairie]

But can you eat a burster to the face and not take health damage?

[jovial juniper]

Which is why I keep saying Arby's mid
But I'm pretty sure y'all tired of me saying that

[jovial juniper]

I can just push the burster

[pale prairie]

No you say that?

[jovial juniper]

See

Problem solved

[pale prairie]

Not when the dog knocks it back into you

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-one-piece-anime-gif-4502646032764566609

[pale prairie]

See problem happen

[jovial juniper]

Oh the dog? Arby's dog?

Friendly fire class

Mid class

[dusk timber]

more focus on stagger, less crit stuff, different abilities/blitzes

there is stuff that sets it apart, just not as immediately obvious as the dog

[pale prairie]

Great cool let’s do that instead of just damage attack speed and tdr increase. Oh right blitz electro mine. Get around that temporary CC immunity on big crushers

[jovial juniper]

Maaaaan, please don't try to make a point with something similar to "oh but can you get hit" when not getting hit is easy

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

[wraith sphinx]

Guys guys

[jovial juniper]

What about the gals

[pale prairie]

How would you know? You run into crushers

[jovial juniper]

[wraith sphinx]

Arby has catch a breath talent which makes them not able to die

End of story

[wraith sphinx]

Gender neutral expression

[pale prairie]

Look at the clip I posted and tell me what other than dog makes it stand out

[dusk timber]

could you at least find a smaller version of the gif so it doesnt take up 1/4th of the message space

[jovial juniper]

Later

[pale prairie]

@jovial juniper PLEASE

[jovial juniper]

I found the dog though

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[dusk timber]

what was the clip?

[jovial juniper]

Oooh

I can turn it into an emoji

Y'all are going to hate me spamming it at every opportunity that I can

[pale prairie]

Fucking lazy ass took this long….

[jovial juniper]

[pale prairie]

I’ll like it more than taking up all my phone screen

[jovial juniper]

Don't worry
I'll keep using the gifs regardless

[dusk timber]

well to start off youre using an class exclusive weapon with the shield+maul and BtL with the massive stagger allowed for a revive and killing the gunner at the start safely before it could retaliate

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[pale prairie]

Not me playing

[dusk timber]

the person in the clip then

[pale prairie]

So it has a big stagger (other classes too) and killed fast

Just curious if the “unique” class mechanics will keep it alive once the nerf hammer comes

[dusk timber]

also without the dog they wouldve took a sniper shot which the shield would block

[dusk timber]

i mean yeah

[pale prairie]

And that’s why I said the dog is its only unique feature other than having the durability of Ogryn with the damage potential of zealot. The carapace piercing shotgun laughs at vet

[dusk timber]

as long as the nerfs dont make the class unusable it'll stay there

[pale prairie]

Yeah I guess I am saying that with numbers being balanced it won’t be special except has dog

[dusk timber]

i dont see it tbh

[dusk timber]

also yes it has much more stuff thats focused on stagger than zealot or vet

the weapons also make it more distinct, specially the ones with the shield

and imo comparing a class that is brand new to ones that have been mostly unchanged for years isnt exactly fair

[proper osprey]

I’d like dog to stay the same tbh

If you know how to build it it’s amazing

But most people don’t

[pale prairie]

I agree. My personal desire is for it to be “if you want damage that pathway is about buffing your dog to be very dangerous and you provide stagger and direction”

If you don’t want damage/dog then you can go all in on staggering and tanking. Damage suffers but you can be the bulwark of the team

Third branch should be some kind “support leader” kind of role with lots of team buffing and stuff

[marble crater]

If Arby is the bulwark of the team, what are actual Bulwarks then?

[pale prairie]

Impressionable ogryns watching too much Space Cops tv

[marble crater]

[buoyant maple]

Just reduce EO’s bonus lol

+150% damage to dog ok buddy

[dusk timber]

i think fatshark is pretty adamant on making the middle branch of trees the more support focused ones

[jovial juniper]

???

[pale prairie]

The only support they got is the nuncio

[buoyant maple]

Nuncio is meh

[jovial juniper]

Helbore laughs at carapace piercing shotgun

Whatever that means

[buoyant maple]

Nuncio is chorus but worse in almost all scenarios

[jovial juniper]

It could be any shotgun

[buoyant maple]

No lol

[buoyant maple]

Ext 8 shotgun’s carapace damage is nuts

[pale prairie]

Wasn’t saying it was great. Saying it was “support”

[buoyant maple]

I think BtL almost always a better support tool tbh

[jovial juniper]

Still can't one shot

[dusk timber]

well more so support/defense

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/skykerwhiteyo-gif-27272734

[pale prairie]

Agreed it’s crazy good, helps with mobility issues, and the cooldown can be nothing

[pale prairie]

I swear I will block you if it means I don’t have this taking up my chat screen

[dusk timber]

left and right branches are usually a lot more damage focused

[pale prairie]

Examine the middle nodes below nuncio. All of them are personal buffs to damage and survival

[dusk timber]

ye

[jovial juniper]

Hey mate

Whatever makes you happy

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/iceage-possum-peaceout-gif-2272177960667492692

I’ll miss you

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-cry-sad-gun-aim-gif-16220733

[dusk timber]

arb just doesnt have much in terms of direct support outside of nuncio

though other classes also follow the pattern of middle being the support/defensive path

[pale prairie]

AND SO that’s why I was saying please focus it towards support in one branch

Should be dog damage arbie, tanking arbie, support arbie

(Defense arbie sacrifices dog for lots of defensive buff)

[jovial juniper]

But then you'll have [blocked message] pestering the aesthetic of discord

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/remarkably-peaceful-captain-kirk-william-shatner-star-trek-the-original-series-gif-23503708

[buoyant maple]

Dog build is sorta higher defense

[pale prairie]

Talking about dreams not current state

[buoyant maple]

Canine morale is better than suppression protocols

[dusk timber]

putting the majority of arb's damage on the dog wouldnt really be a good idea imo

[pale prairie]

It’s already doing over a third of it from what I have seen

[buoyant maple]

Dog needs pretty dedicated spec to do good damage

By pretty dedicated I mean taking the strongest keystone in the game + bleed + electro

[pale prairie]

Look I am just saying why am I calling the K-9 unit if the cop is better without the dog and just murders everything

[dusk timber]

cause the dog is also strong?

[buoyant maple]

Dedicated dog spec also is much comfier with shotgun’s lack of range

[pale prairie]

So you’re saying make both arbiter and dog very damaging

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

Taking the dog spec route you barely have to use ranged weapon

[dusk timber]

no?

[pale prairie]

What are you saying then

[dusk timber]

im just saying that if the majority of arb's damage is coming from the dog i dont think that would be very fun

[pale prairie]

I thought it was a stagger class?

[dusk timber]

its a class that has more focus on stagger compared to other classes (except maybe ogryn)

but if you make it so the damage increases from the tree are pretty much all revolving around the dog i feel like that would take away agency from the player

[jovial juniper]

Stagger class
Not beating the.....mid allegations

[pale prairie]

Then don’t play a class that really should revolve around its pet?

[dusk timber]

thats your opinion

[pale prairie]

And the above is yours

[marble crater]

Just kiss and be friends again everyone

[prime elk]

Oh no!

[dusk timber]

also a pet/summon class that can only have one summon doesnt have any of the appeal the archetype gives for me

[pale prairie]

Very true so I think they should take a note from the arbites in Rogue Trader that has multiple summon options

[dusk timber]

if i want to let my minions do the work for me i want to have a fucking army of them

[pale prairie]

Unfortunately fatshark is too lazy to make all those models

[dusk timber]

it'd still only be one summon present

[pale prairie]

Yeah I said options

[dusk timber]

yes

so again

[jovial juniper]

If one dog broke the game
Imagine 4

Oh wait

4 Arby's

[pale prairie]

Yes

[jovial juniper]

[dusk timber]

doesnt have any of the appeal that the summoner archetype gives

[dusk timber]

now imagine 16 dogs

[jovial juniper]

True it's like

Single summon spec on a summoner class

[pale prairie]

I just believe each class should have its own identity. Arbites needs that. I mean I would be fine with current state as long as a

dedicated zealot (average not pro) was better at melee

Average veteran was always better at ranged

Average Ogryn always better as a tank.

Currently arbites can outshine all of them if built correctly.

Anyway enough of that

[dusk timber]

again zealot and vet are extremely outdated in design

so comparing them to arbites isnt a fair fight imo

[jovial juniper]

I will refrain from this conversation

[dusk timber]

and im not a big fan of "x class should always be better at y thing"

[pale prairie]

True. But look at this:

One of these is Ogryn updated

[dusk timber]

that is a fair point

[pale prairie]

One is arbites

[dusk timber]

i know

im not saying arbites is perfectly balanced

[marble crater]

Arby has one talent that is worth 6 or so talents on vet to get the same effect

[pale prairie]

But then what’s the point of having separate classes? Let’s just all have one big tree

[dusk timber]

im just saying that the comparison between arb and vet/zealot is already rigged against the latter cause of outdated designs

[dusk timber]

to be more specific im not a fan of it when the "y thing" is as broad as "melee"

i shouldve clarified that in the message i admit

[pale prairie]

I mean I feel like zealot should be very good at diving into mixed hordes and killing bosses

[dusk timber]

that is something i can get behind more

at least for one of their paths

[jovial juniper]

🔥

[dusk timber]

compared to "zealot should just completely outclass other classes' melee builds"

[jovial juniper]

It is the only class that can one shot bosses

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/play-poe-2-the-best-game-arpg-poe-like-true-diablo-path-of-exile-2-gif-16648459918324750033

[pale prairie]

As it should be!

[jovial juniper]

Hoping on Salt and Sanctuary rn

[marble crater]

I thought you blocked him

[jovial juniper]

[pale prairie]

I am not that petty

[dusk timber]

the only other one that i could see being able to do so as well would be a hyper-specialized pickaxe ogryn

[jovial juniper]

Nah they said they would if I kept spamming Skylar White yo

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/skyler-white-skylar-white-sigma-sigma-male-sigma-woman-gif-13596785285265624062

[jovial juniper]

Plus I'm too good to be blocked

[pale prairie]

I could get behind arbites being more of a jack of all trades and being a master of support/stagger

[dusk timber]

tbh i actually kind of prefer arbites to have more limited support options

[pale prairie]

Just as long as it’s shine is doing everything decently not not so much that the “specialists” are useless

[pale prairie]

That’s current state bruh

[dusk timber]

also i feel like being the jack of all trades is more the veteran's thing

[dusk timber]

yes

[marble crater]

Oh shit, Karien is here. Everyone behave

[jovial juniper]

Nah

[pale prairie]

Okay so you don’t want any changes you could have just stated that and saved me typing lmao

[dusk timber]

???

[jovial juniper]

I will misbehave and there's nothing that karien can do because 300 ping

[dusk timber]

i didnt say that

[pale prairie]

She sent those emojis yesterday

[marble crater]

How are you doing, Karien?

[deft stump]

And then you get slapped with everything when it hits.

[dusk timber]

i just said that i prefer arbites having limited options for support

[pale prairie]

Bruh limited support options are why we have so many lone wolf arbites running miles ahead of teams

[deft stump]

Ping pinging mood swings. Just a normal day basically.

[pale prairie]

Getting downed or surviving while causing increased spawns for those trying to catch up

[dusk timber]

that could be one contributor

[marble crater]

I see

[deft stump]

More support is better than less though.

[dusk timber]

its more so cause of thematics

[pale prairie]

Hope it gets better?

[dusk timber]

like do you really look at space robocop and think "ah yes that class should really be support oriented"

[dusk timber]

i wouldnt mind some extra small things but it shouldnt be something the class excels at

[pale prairie]

He’s not robocop. That’s a different IP. He’s trained as part of a UNIT of cops that WORK TOGETHER

[jovial juniper]

Judge Dreed

🗣️

[pale prairie]

Yes

[dusk timber]

its still a cop

[jovial juniper]

Where's the judge bread gif

[deft stump]

Is in the normal range so no biggie. Just how it is. GF gave me a tiger dangly thing though.

[pale prairie]

Ah yes the famous solo cops

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-wheres-our-backup-police-the-simpsons-gif-11625986

[pale prairie]

Tigers are cool!

[deft stump]

Clipped it to my phone case, so yeah.

[dusk timber]

idk i just think its funny their biggest support tool is basically a megaphone with a bunch of propaganda to terrify enemies (and possibly the rejects as well)

[pale prairie]

Nice

[pale prairie]

Yeah it is out of place

[dusk timber]

how so?

[pale prairie]

It just feels out of place on a class where most of their bonuses encourage solo play

Especially cause their whole aesthetic as you said is lethal force and working alone. Why would they need a megaphone?

[deft stump]

To yell at heretics. See cops and rioters.

[pale prairie]

That’s what the enforcers are for

[prime elk]

Feels like cops and loud speakers are peas in a pod

[deft stump]

I mean, certain special forces still do that as a warning before they shoot.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/f-bi-raid-swat-gif-11500735

https://tenor.com/view/police-police-raid-raid-swat-breaching-gif-17241772247956454885

https://tenor.com/view/swat-gif-17979428

Not a lotta loudspeakers here

[pale prairie]

I am American

[dusk timber]

terror tactics

[deft stump]

Eh, Loud booming shouts can already count.

[dusk timber]

like did you see their trailers

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmmmm fair. But the dinky robot is so silly

[buoyant maple]

Disco Aquila is peak

[deft stump]

Like, we are talking exaggeration of reality.

[pale prairie]

Then why do so few run it

[deft stump]

Or even taking a piss.

[pale prairie]

Yeah yeah, I guess I assume the other direction in exaggeration. IE they never ask you to surrender. There are no warnings

[deft stump]

Is just 40k in general

[dusk timber]

they dont ask you to surrender, but they sure as hell want you to know in your final moments who's gonna kill you

[prime elk]

The loud speakers are so that the block fodder know they are about to die

[buoyant maple]

It’s a client side mod

[pale prairie]

I cannot understand a single thing that robot says

[pale prairie]

I meant the ability 😭

[dusk timber]

also i never really said anything specific about working alone

[prime elk]

Most people just want abilities that help themselves

[buoyant maple]

Cuz it’s not good enough

[deft stump]

Is just propaganda anyway.

[buoyant maple]

Nuncio is pretty much just chorus but worse in most scenarios

[dusk timber]

ig its just hard for me to see cops doing what could be considered an act of kindness

[jovial juniper]

Casual Aquilla L

[buoyant maple]

And BtL is more useful for team most of the time

[jovial juniper]

I still have to download disco Aquilla though

[deft stump]

10% aspd, 30% TDR, slows overheads so I can bonk more and bully them out of it. WDYM?

[prime elk]

I like nuncio 😭

[dusk timber]

i think its more so the other abilities being way too cracked compared to it

[deft stump]

Oh 15% more damage.

[strong gulch]

I'd run that disco mod but then I'd have to set it up and play arby

[deft stump]

What else did I forget?

[prime elk]

As opposed to invincibility and making everything fuck off every 15 seconds though

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-alert-bumper-adam-devine-pitch-perfect-lame-gif-17474980

[buoyant maple]

BtL is in a good spot
Castrated stance is op but boring

[prime elk]

Pretty much

[jovial juniper]

Setting up
Playing Arby 🛌

[deft stump]

I think Nuncio needs a pick up and lower CD thing baseline.

[prime elk]

ATTENTION BLOCK FODDER

[marble crater]

All this talk about Arby makes me want to play mine later

[buoyant maple]

Nuncio’s CD is not that bad cuz it ticks as soon as the drone is up

[jovial juniper]

Attention block fodder
I'm out here stro-

[buoyant maple]

And the drone is up for 20s

So the actual downtime is 40s which is not bad

[jovial juniper]

Go for it

[deft stump]

Still nice to like, get a portion back if things end too soon.

[marble crater]

I will rush ahead on my own, like intended

[jovial juniper]

Don't fall for the Arby's is mid propaganda 🫡

[radiant frigate]

NOW HEAR THIS, BLOCK-FODDER

[buoyant maple]

However it takes subnodes to be notably useful and it’s a fairly small radius while being stationary

[deft stump]

Or to reposition it.

[buoyant maple]

And u have to stay in the area to get benefit

And enemies have to stay in the area to be debuffed

[dusk timber]

a larger radius would be neat

[pale prairie]

Wait…HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT LINE?!?

[prime elk]

I really wish it could move, even if slowly

[radiant frigate]

i played kerillian-flavored arby

[deft stump]

Do you think losing 4 secs but making it move with the Arby would help?

[pale prairie]

Slowly follows the player

[radiant frigate]

oh it does?

[dusk timber]

that could be a cool modifier

[prime elk]

Yeah

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/everything's-a-lie-edward-homm-rabbit-hole-everything's-fake-everything's-false-gif-12231038201565005841

[radiant frigate]

that makes it slightly less garbage in my book

[buoyant maple]

Or
Increase the radius and make it linger for 5s after player leaves the area

[radiant frigate]

look, there was a new class, i tried it out

so i can hate on it more accurately

[pale prairie]

It SHOULD

[dusk timber]

if you hold down the ability button you can choose where to deploy it

like psyker shield

[deft stump]

Ah, that would be nice as well, linger on enemies for a shorter time also?

[dusk timber]

it only activates once it reaches the spot though

[radiant frigate]

i was not interested in the class until i heard fatshark say "btw it has alix wilton regan"

THEN they had my attention

but even she could not save this class

[dusk timber]

but it'd be nice if it still did the effects while moving to the spot you chose

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/conscience-evil-good-angel-devil-gif-2142009395042087672

[buoyant maple]

Arb is playing the game on easy mode

[radiant frigate]

arb is playing the game?

[buoyant maple]

Yea

[deft stump]

I mean, is easier to play on 300 ping, and this is a lone wulf build.

[jovial juniper]

Me when I accidentally barrel the Arby's to her death

https://tenor.com/view/alt-cunningham-gif-8976255340613302936

[deft stump]

Plasma vet on 280 ping made me want to off myself.

Delay on delay on delay on delay.

[pale prairie]

That’s fucked yo

[deft stump]

GREAT.

[jovial juniper]

Ok but like

What is that sensitivity

💀

[pale prairie]

Probably a console peasant

[jovial juniper]

Not really an excuse

Crank that shit up

[pale prairie]

I preach that always and people say they get sick

[dusk timber]

Fair

[pale prairie]

I mean honestly you don’t need to turn fast if the dog is killing stuff behind you

[pale prairie]

Is this console?

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-spin-confetti-fishy-spinning-gif-2147613004635078456

[buoyant maple]

I dropped my sensitivity by another like 38%

[jovial juniper]

I raised mine by another 10

[deft stump]

I SAY THAT AS WELL. DO YOU WANT A BULLET TO THE NETHERS?

[jovial juniper]

Eksbawks

[buoyant maple]

The power of a lightweight wireless gaming mouse is unreal

[pale prairie]

Karien you are such a good coach

[dusk timber]

3kg mouse

[pale prairie]

Until batteries die

[buoyant maple]

That’s not a mouse that’s a rat

[pale prairie]

Then panic

[jovial juniper]

I should get one of those standing mouse

[dusk timber]

RAT

[deft stump]

Just have one that goes to what 128000 dpi or something stupid.

[jovial juniper]

Or what's the name

[buoyant maple]

I turned RGB lights off and it has like 60hr+ battery life

[jovial juniper]

Vertical mouse?

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[buoyant maple]

And I charge it overnight

So

[dusk timber]

I have one of those

[buoyant maple]

Basically no issue

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dropped-this-king-you-dropped-this-queen-you-dropped-this-you-dropped-this-king-meme-you-dropped-this-meme-gif-25206668

[radiant frigate]

invincible dog solos the boss while you're in the belly of the beast

gg no re

[pale prairie]

The Reddit post said “check out my sick clutch”

[jovial juniper]

Tbf

It was pretty sick

Any other Arby's would not unnet the zealot

MVP play right there

[pale prairie]

Damn he’s right

[dusk timber]

The BtL into revive was sick

[radiant frigate]

it was but the lollygagging before it was not

[icy breach]

@pale prairie THIS IS WHERE WE HOLD THEM; THIS IS WHERE WE FIGHT!
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/15937932092074904309/FCE641550961E70E0B009F1122DF2B975DF7E628/
ALSO THIS
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/15248753436510686681/29AD4AE069463EEE7E7B3B61F3E226721B7FD5B2/

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[near gale]

How it feels to be a crucis gamer

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/finally-some-good-content-gordon-ramsay-gordon-ramsay-memes-gif-25876450

Thammer needs some love but that impact and crunch when you hit is PERFECT

https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-infinity-war-gif-25139201

[jovial juniper]

There's nothing other than Crucis

In fact

I'm sure ironhelm is just collective hallucinations

[near gale]

Wouldn't doubt it, the last time I tried to use it... it missed constantly

I miss using the crucis more often 🙁

I love that weapon so much

Probably my favorite darktide weapon

[icy breach]

If thunder hammer had an option to use 'power cycler' blessing then the ironhelm would make a nice chaf clearer... sadly its not an option

[near gale]

meanwhile crucis would be 2 tapping or 3 tapping shit with lights lol

"just light spam the crusher"

[icy breach]

would be amazing tbh

cause it would have a use for both marks

[near gale]

There would probably be enough time to use a heavy twice as well with it on the crucis

[marble crater]

Huh, Kitefin is leaving as CM

[topaz willow]

can anyone help me out with the meta for psyker inhavoc?

[marble crater]

Check the third pin

[topaz willow]

uuuhm

[pale prairie]

Yeah I saw that. Vermintide CM to cover

[pale prairie]

#psyker-class message

[topaz willow]

ok ty

[pale prairie]

[marble crater]

And who do we get in January?

[pale prairie]

Probably more dog posts

Does it matter?

[marble crater]

No, we got Kitefin 3 months ago, so I am just making fun of the turnover rate

[pale prairie]

Ahhhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/principal-skinner-laughing-laughing-hysterically-lol-haha-gif-11604557889880066231

[radiant frigate]

somehow this is worse than retail

[marble crater]

I guess as CM you get yelled at more than in retail

[radiant frigate]

possible

though i believe both have a similar amount of seemingly illiterate people to deal with

[marble crater]

Yeah, if video games have taught me anything, it's that people can't read

You play one game that has a meme about the players not reading and then you join another game's discord and one of the first memes you see is that they can't read either

[pale prairie]

Gamers I think are worse to deal with. A lot more death threats

[marble crater]

True, on the other hand in retail you have people right in your face and depending on where you are no option to just leave the situation

[pale prairie]

Truuuue

But you can also call the police on them if they get violent

Then record them getting arrested

And laugh

[marble crater]

You can, maybe both are worse

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/we-found-the-answer-crystal-drinkwalter-vanwives-we-discovered-the-solution-we-uncovered-the-answer-gif-15940545596463073780

[radiant frigate]

in my years i think i have only once had to tell a customer to please file a formal complaint and mention me by name

so perhaps it is not so bad

[pale prairie]

Maybe you are just really good at defusing situations.

Way to rise above your elfy haughtiness

[radiant frigate]

maybe retail is worse outside of europe

who knows

[marble crater]

Her incomparable mind is good at problem solving

[pale prairie]

Black Friday Walmart people die in America

[radiant frigate]

in this case i also solved a problem

he walked away and never came back

problem solved

[pale prairie]

Doubt now that I know she bought and played arbites

Before nerfs

[radiant frigate]

he did end up filing that complaint too

[marble crater]

In Germany I honestly don't expect much from people working retail, if they don't talk to me and just point me to the right place I consider that great customer service

[radiant frigate]

correction! i did not buy it

it was gifted to me

also what nerfs

[marble crater]

Bug fixes

[radiant frigate]

like gigableed dog? i was playing lone wolf at the time

[marble crater]

Like gigableed dog

[radiant frigate]

then i found out how broken the dog is (post-nerf)

as for prenerf i cannot speak as i did not use it

[radiant frigate]

i know some people just want to get what they came for, have the absolute minimum interaction, pay and go

and i respect that

[marble crater]

Yep, that's why Walmart failed in Germany, people got too annoyed by the person greeting them, among other things

[pale prairie]

The nerfs that must be coming (copium)

[pale prairie]

This is dream interaction

[pale prairie]

Wow

That’s wild

[radiant frigate]

not only is there someone speaking to you as you enter, there is also someone who doesn't want to speak to you as you enter being forced to speak to you as you enter

and that is INEFFICIENT

it serves zero purpose

[pale prairie]

https://youtu.be/IEhHEOIYgMY?si=9wlnQt4buDyFzwtX

[radiant frigate]

do i greet people as they come by? sure

do they greet back? sometimes

[marble crater]

https://youtu.be/PxtXI0K4YJs

[pale prairie]

Do you have a sign that says you are an FGS cultist?

[radiant frigate]

no but perhaps i should

[pale prairie]

Cause that might affect your experience

Huh largest retail market

Didn’t know that

[radiant frigate]

walmart is very ungerman

should be more german

more efficient

superior

[pale prairie]

Hmmmm

[marble crater]

I wouldn't, unless I go there shopping all the time and we kinda know each other by now if the employees started greeting me when I go grocery shopping I would be so annoyed

[pale prairie]

Wait what is Austrian then? Not superior? Or just chill

I greet back if I can tell someone is really trying. I have empathy for soul crushing retail

[marble crater]

Someone from Austria tried to be superior once, didn't work out so well, for anyone really

[pale prairie]

Thank you for the education. Most efficient of you

[radiant frigate]

i mean, given how long i've worked there, and given that i see a lot of the same faces, that's kind of the case

[pale prairie]

That’s kind of sweet

[marble crater]

Also depends on the kind of retail

Small store? Sure

[radiant frigate]

there is also an internal catalogue of nicknames for some customers

[marble crater]

Oh no

[pale prairie]

Ooof that’s tough

[wraith sphinx]

Whaat lol

[pale prairie]

Hahahahahaha

[radiant frigate]

internal as in, my personal labels

[wraith sphinx]

Ah

[pale prairie]

Oooooooh

[radiant frigate]

like The Bothersome One

Mr. Jolly

[pale prairie]

Judgey elf how novel

[radiant frigate]

The Chad Dad

[wraith sphinx]

Gluttonous creature?

[radiant frigate]

Nasty Bastard

Incompetentia

[pale prairie]

Chad dad nice

[wraith sphinx]

Dwarf

[pale prairie]

That’s pretty advanced

Like dementia?

[radiant frigate]

one of my favorites really, great guy

[pale prairie]

I mean matches the title

[radiant frigate]

like imagine you have 3 inches of space between your cart and the conveyor belt, and you manage to drop something in that gap that is about the same size as the gap and make a mess

[marble crater]

Incompetentia buttocks? Wait...

[radiant frigate]

et voila, nickname

[radiant frigate]

no that's incontinentia

[wraith sphinx]

...how does someone manage that

[marble crater]

By being an idiot

[radiant frigate]

hence, incompetentia

[wraith sphinx]

Like moving things from cart to conveyor is the most trivial thing ever

[pale prairie]

Impressive

[marble crater]

Not in Germany/Austria, does Aldi cashiers are quick

[radiant frigate]

there is also the extremely benevolent grandma (who must be protected at all costs)

[pale prairie]

Aldi has spread to east coast America

[radiant frigate]

cashiers can only work as fast as the customers go

[wraith sphinx]

I honestly do not care about fast cashiers at all

[pale prairie]

I know someone who loves them and buys all their dumb clothing merch

[marble crater]

You are welcome

[pale prairie]

Ah ah ah! I don’t know if it is any good yet

[wraith sphinx]

If they are too fast I will just end up holding up the line anyways as I sort everything into bags

[pale prairie]

They might have greeters

[marble crater]

Of course it's good, it's German. I hear they even let their cashiers... sit down

[radiant frigate]

technically we do too

[pale prairie]

I won’t believe this till I experience it

[radiant frigate]

but honestly? i never do

[wraith sphinx]

Also ngl having someone greet me while entering a store would creep me out

[pale prairie]

Americans are good at ruining stuff

[radiant frigate]

for the simple reason that i do not like having to look UP at people

i am short enough as it is tyvm

[pale prairie]

Leaf lovers are weird

[marble crater]

Small elf? How short?

[pale prairie]

All elves are short

[wraith sphinx]

I greet the workers at mom n pop convenience stores I visit near-daily for 10 years only

[radiant frigate]

175cm

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-angry-pissed-insulted-gif-13833807

[marble crater]

That's not short, especially not for a woman

[wraith sphinx]

Damn you consider 175cm to be short?

[radiant frigate]

short by elf standards

[pale prairie]

For an Austrian though?

[wraith sphinx]

I'm 172cm

[marble crater]

Also not

[pale prairie]

I am IMPERIAL STANDARD UNITS

[pale prairie]

SOMETHING SOMETHING TALL GERMANS/AUSTRIANS

[marble crater]

They aren't even standard units, you use American versions of the worse units

[pale prairie]

yeah I know

[wraith sphinx]

True

[pale prairie]

The retired voters were too strong when we tried to convert

[wraith sphinx]

Americans be like "howdy I am 30 burgers tall"

[marble crater]

Like, you took the worse units and thought "hey, you know what we should do..."

[radiant frigate]

imagine asking someone how tall they are and the answer is "get 3 of your friends together, have them put their feet in a line and then 3 thumbs sideways on top and that's how tall i am

DERANGED

[wraith sphinx]

🤢

[pale prairie]

Look just cause you don’t have friends to help….

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1274487631987605674/GVHX15RXoAApby3-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[radiant frigate]

anyway i am not the tallest, ergo i am short

even if i am not the shortest

[pale prairie]

That’s a depressing way to look at yourself

I know shorter

Like 15 hamburgers

[marble crater]

I don't think it works like that

[verbal thistle]

2 bald eagles tall or nothing

smh

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[radiant frigate]

would you eat 15 hamburgers

[wraith sphinx]

0.0125 footbal fields 🗿

[marble crater]

Though I am taller and if we were friends I would definitely make fun of you for being short, so maybe it does make sense

[pale prairie]

In one sitting?

[pale prairie]

“If we were friends…”

Ooof

[wraith sphinx]

I could be persuaded to eat 15 hamburgers in a span of month but that is already pushing it hard

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/brutal-metal-metalocalypse-dethklok-nathan-gif-9219183

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mod-discord-kick-mute-gif-495505587681287181

[verbal thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277023294108864619/1406067100530905170/caption-5.gif

[pale prairie]

Smiting is going too far

[radiant frigate]

of course

[marble crater]

No ooof, Germans (and Austrians too I imagine) don't throw the friend label around willy-nilly

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/no-shake-my-head-golden-girls-smh-oh-man-gif-14406870892947143609

[radiant frigate]

oh most definitely

i hand it out very sparingly

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/npc-behavior-be-like-gif-10607292567092564523

Sut with all his friends

[radiant frigate]

being friendly with someone is not the same as being friends

[marble crater]

Exactly

[wraith sphinx]

Insert american complaining about europeans being depressed here

[wraith sphinx]

I would have to hang out with someone for several weeks before I start considering them a buddy

[pale prairie]

Wow crazy stuff. Is water wet?

[radiant frigate]

not until you touch it, next question

[pale prairie]

How many hamburgers could you eat?

[marble crater]

"WaTeR isNt wEt iT mAkeS oTheR ThiNgs weT"

[radiant frigate]

depending on size 1-2

[pale prairie]

Because it is also wet

[marble crater]

https://youtu.be/v2iwKy596ag

[pale prairie]

Impressive for “small” elf

[radiant frigate]

honestly i just wanted to say something outlandish

[pale prairie]

Ah you watch dubbed that explains that

[strong gulch]

What does water's tooltip say and is it accurate??

Fatshark fecked me up.

[marble crater]

I don't, I just remember the video

[wraith sphinx]

Do it no balls

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-funny-allegedly-letterkenny-squirrely-dan-gif-12467177

[radiant frigate]

i already did

[wraith sphinx]

Oh

I'm illiterate

[pale prairie]

Ooof

F

[marble crater]

Darktide players can't read

[wraith sphinx]

My ogryn RP is coming along nicely

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/bardin-think-gif-23224923

[pale prairie]

That’s why it was pet pictures today

[marble crater]

Wasn't aimed at you specifically, just the argument

[marble crater]

I didn't read it

[pale prairie]

Targeted strike

[wraith sphinx]

You should read the pet pictures, now

[pale prairie]

Unconscionable and unprovoked assault

[strong gulch]

farting while sleeping

[wraith sphinx]

War crime

[marble crater]

No, I like Kat

[pale prairie]

Not friend

[radiant frigate]

i also like sut

[pale prairie]

He can’t they are in color. He is German and only reads black and white bleak photography

[wraith sphinx]

I like you all 🙂

[pale prairie]

How friendly

[radiant frigate]

i like most of you, siblings

you're good company :)

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-gawrsh-disney-im-shy-gif-17449799

[radiant frigate]

see? i can be sweet too

[wraith sphinx]

Very awesome

[marble crater]

Retail persona

[pale prairie]

I like you all too. Even those of you who are French whom i blame for my very late wargame minis (it’s actually my governments tariffs….)

[radiant frigate]

Berufskrankheit

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-4723491180103301225

[wraith sphinx]

Fire line

[pale prairie]

Guess you could say we are EFFICIENT and don’t WASTE our time on earth

Not FRIVOLOUS

[radiant frigate]

is it truly time wasted if you have all the time in the world?

[pale prairie]

if you have all the time in the world what is the point of anything?

https://tenor.com/view/nihilism-chidi-the-good-place-chili-mental-gif-12867374

[wraith sphinx]

I mean

[radiant frigate]

rampant hedonism obviously

[wraith sphinx]

Culture and lifestyle would simply be adapted to having all the time in the world

[radiant frigate]

wake up, time to create a new chaos god

[wraith sphinx]

Or that lol

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-warhammer-warhammer40k-the-emperor-slaanesh-gif-16325706

https://tenor.com/view/slaanesh-warhammer-total-war-gif-24197491

[radiant frigate]

accurate

[radiant frigate]

sorry for killing psyker chat

i promise i like you guys

[marble crater]

I was voidblasting, I don't know what happened here

[near gale]

Odd, I thought I was in the psyker chat... not gen chat

[pale prairie]

You didn’t . You make the chat better!

I just can’t message while biking and then cooking

I am making hamburgers…..

GET OUT OF MY HEAD ELF

[marble crater]

Americans don't bike

[near gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1406988061509681285/image0.gif

[near gale]

Yeah we do. It's just usually done by running people over

[marble crater]

Rude

[pale prairie]

Half immigrant?

[pale prairie]

Man I have been hit a few times already by cars I ain’t risking it again. Yes skill issue

[near gale]

I jest, safety comes first :3

[marble crater]

The fuck is a half immigrant supposed to be?

[pale prairie]

Me

[near gale]

Half of their body is on one side, half on the other

[pale prairie]

One of my parents was an immigrant?

[marble crater]

Okay and you were born where?

[near gale]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

Calling ICE right now.

[ripe obsidian]

We like you, too. Even if you are xenos scum.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-leslie-jordan-gif-11334450875675318506

[near gale]

[radiant frigate]

and your body still works?

ogryn constitution

[pale prairie]

It’s called AmeriCAN not AmeriCANT

[near gale]

[pale prairie]

the bike took most of the damage

[radiant frigate]

one of my coworkers got hit one time

[pale prairie]

Six is being remarkably tolerant today. Must be the Dutch weather

[radiant frigate]

her leg was out of commission for quite a while

[pale prairie]

Yeah I lucked out both times being able to mostly avert and roll with impact

[ripe obsidian]

https://youtu.be/MmltUzDjKgA?si=UJ8F0XOhSOzOq44O

[marble crater]

Americunt?

[pale prairie]

Deserved

[ripe obsidian]

Shit. I need to work on my xenophobia.

[pale prairie]

😭

[near gale]

Hit me, I am ready

[ripe obsidian]

Wait there's a new version:

https://youtu.be/-VdeRo536kg?si=aGtCYy2lbwGmtbbv

[pale prairie]

Is this guy American?

[ripe obsidian]

You're stinky and have too many limbs, xenos filth. >:(

[near gale]

Eh, 1.5/10

[ripe obsidian]

Value Select? I think so

[pale prairie]

Is this our favorite slav witch?

[ripe obsidian]

Oh no. Have I become... tolerant?!

[radiant frigate]

yes!

[pale prairie]

I try extra hard when she is in missions

[near gale]

Time to put in 80 hours a week to get better...

[pale prairie]

Be back in America for 48 hours and you’ll revert I guarantee it

[near gale]

This

[ripe obsidian]

I'll book a flight to eastern Europe, Korea, Japan, and middle America and get back to you.

[ripe obsidian]

40k years and going strong. Humanity, back fo back xenophobia champs.

[pale prairie]

TAKE ME WITH YOU except for the middle America part

[near gale]

Yeah, stay away from the middle of the usa

[radiant frigate]

middle and south america are probably very pretty but also probably dangerous

[marble crater]

Stay away from Europe please

[ripe obsidian]

I am in Europe right now