#psyker-class

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pale prairie
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You mean rock?

verbal thistle
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Nearly infinite range anti specials/ranged elite

ripe obsidian
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Looks at throwing knife, frag grenade, rock, all of Arby's grenades, Assail...

tulip kettle
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idk using BB vs reapers in 40's is just pain

inland ice
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does it even kill a rager at base damage

verbal thistle
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Psyker blitz are way out of control

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Ogryn is fair

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He doesn't have nade regen

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Rock modifier is debatable

ripe obsidian
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Rock has instakill on most man-sized enemies and does regen

verbal thistle
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Arby blitz same as psyker

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Too spammable and does too much

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Unarmored enemies and it's rough aiming very far/in a horde

ripe obsidian
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It's not just unarmored afaik. Lemme check.

verbal thistle
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But I do see your point

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Not literally

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Sorry

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Non cara enemies

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And flak mauler rager

inland ice
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assail and smite are still good even without much investment but to make BB good you need invest i feel like

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or is this my skissue

tulip kettle
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smite is not good.

verbal thistle
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As a great friend once said to mr

tulip kettle
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its literally not good at all.

inland ice
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my bad

verbal thistle
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"it's not bad it's just balanced"

inland ice
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but space wizard

verbal thistle
strong gulch
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The fact that even EP BB doesn't 1 tap scab ragers.

verbal thistle
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In a havoc 40 duo my BB uptime is probably around 40%

inland ice
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the time investment to kill rager with bb is rarted

umbral oyster
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Im bad. Help me be not bad

verbal thistle
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But what do you think psyker is the master of?

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Chip damage with aoe/burn

inland ice
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exploding randomly

tulip kettle
verbal thistle
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Kill 1 rager then all the ragers next to him are burning into that 1 shot threshold

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No

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Me using bb

tulip kettle
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because theres no way you spend 40% of the game using bb

verbal thistle
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Did you see the video?

tulip kettle
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i mean i have not watched your hour long video in 2 minutes, no

strong gulch
verbal thistle
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I trauma the floor then swap and a few then repeat

ripe obsidian
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I am not arguing that EP+BB is bad. It's not. But I will say that H40 duos are a pretty edge case, and EP is likely the least common keystone.

verbal thistle
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And it makes me sad

inland ice
verbal thistle
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It's my fav keystone

tulip kettle
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yeah also ainz like

verbal thistle
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Very well designed around psyker kit

tulip kettle
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you are just insanely cracked

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be real

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nobody is playing like that except you

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
verbal thistle
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Fair but in other people cases it's just slightly longer ttk

ripe obsidian
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Ah. My mistake

tulip kettle
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you also have fully specced into it

strong gulch
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being obtuse I see

not a debate just gonna block

tulip kettle
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literally using EP and KR

inland ice
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???

tulip kettle
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nobody uses that

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except you

ripe obsidian
# umbral oyster Not max yet

I recommend Assail until level 30, honestly. It's hard to perform otherwise until you can max out stats on weapons

verbal thistle
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Recently with the release of havoc 2.0 I feel psykers getting into the mindset of zealot skill tree building

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Makes me a bit sad

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Psyker tree is so much better then zealot and vet

inland ice
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cancelled for using an abbreviated r-word šŸ˜”

verbal thistle
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I only see 1 build in havoc but I guess that's what happens with end game content

dusk timber
tulip kettle
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just dont be offensive or use slurs, even modified ones

ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
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this isnt zealot chat

deft stump
umbral oyster
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I'm still built into bubble in my assail build? Huh. Been a long while since I played

inland ice
pale prairie
inland ice
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I dont actually use it in reference to people with disabilities

ripe obsidian
dusk timber
inland ice
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okay cracker

tulip kettle
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and blocked

verbal thistle
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Gotta love the Internet

inland ice
umbral oyster
strong gulch
verbal thistle
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Back to the main point of BB, I might agree that a minor change (not buff) would be welcome but BB is a very good synergetic blitz made for psyker kit with one of the highest skill ceilings

tulip kettle
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in general it feels like the opposite to me

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you dont need bb on most builds

ripe obsidian
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My understanding of the word demographic might be incorrect. I thought it was a trait that a person has that cannot be easily changed. Sex, age, skin color, disability, etc. If I'm wrong on that, I will revise my internal dictionary

tulip kettle
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and the thing you need it for on those builds, it doesnt do

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just dont engage six

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its not a good faith discussion

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block and move on

ripe obsidian
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That's fair

verbal thistle
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But if you wanted BB to perform in those builds it can, no?

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With EP and the bb nodes

tulip kettle
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yeah and thats the point, you are taking a keystone that does nothing for the rest of your kit, and 2 nodes on the blitz that could otherwise be used elsewhere

ripe obsidian
verbal thistle
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That's came up a few by some of my friends as well

tulip kettle
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just to make it somewhat ok

verbal thistle
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I wouldn't like it

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But the average player probably would

tulip kettle
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when you could just lmb spam most of the tings you are brainbursting

deft stump
tulip kettle
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and then you try to BB a crusher or reaper and its kind of just bad compared to equivalent blitzes

verbal thistle
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EP also being way less points investment also adds to psyker skill tree building

tulip kettle
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i dont disagree

pale prairie
tulip kettle
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but the opportunity cost of doing so is, for example, losing 16% base damage on everything else you have

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and 30% cdr

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its a thing you take if youre cracked at the game to nerf yourself and play with a bit of the kit you normally wouldnt, because its bad

verbal thistle
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Okay, I do love talking about DT stuff but I gtg. Back to homework. My final point of BB, depending on who you are catering too and which difficulty it might welcome a change/buff. But in my eyes it's fine.

dusk timber
tulip kettle
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you have to understand that being in the top 0.01% of players is not a place to make balancing decisions.

verbal thistle
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Takes less points to get to the keystone

pale prairie
verbal thistle
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Then Dd or siphon

dusk timber
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oh misread then

cinder perch
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Icl it's looking pretty hard to make an optimal build for soulblaze force greatsword

umbral oyster
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Good idea to slot in the two perks that give toughness for generating/quelling peril right? They seem like nice small buffs for just..doing things you're normally doinh

pale prairie
tulip kettle
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one of, if not the, most useless blessings in the game

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heres the thing with blazing spirit on melee

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if you crit, the thing you hit dies

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so like, why?

inland ice
deft stump
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Too little to be of worth.

cinder perch
tulip kettle
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it doesnt work with the warp slice either

cinder perch
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Any recommendations on what would be a better blessing?

tulip kettle
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so basically, just never do it

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which weapon, FGS

pale prairie
tulip kettle
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its always unstable power

cinder perch
tulip kettle
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and then your choice between wrath or shred usually

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and i would broadly recommend using the MK6 over the mk8

umbral oyster
tulip kettle
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they have very equivalent horde clear (mk8 slightly better) but mk6 has better heavy chain for bonking armour and such

umbral oyster
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Need people to play with

deft stump
cinder perch
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Luckily I was already running wrath

pale prairie
dusk timber
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i thought they would be more useful

tulip kettle
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if you havent used it much, and arent using macro mods, its light light block cancel for hordes, chain heavies for elites

cinder perch
tulip kettle
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you can also light light light heavy for horde clear but its slower and less safe

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and the dump stat is warp res

pale prairie
umbral oyster
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Last match on the entire rest of my team were fighting a horde and I went to complete obj(they were ignoring for some reason)
Game decided to spawn like 3 maulers and it takes me dying to realise they need to reset the skull thingamajig

cinder perch
deft stump
pale prairie
cinder perch
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Doesn't matter

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But also WOW warp slice eats up peril

tulip kettle
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this is good

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high peril = more dmg

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because you have warp rider talent

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and if you dont have that talent, you should

pale prairie
umbral oyster
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Scriers gaze is

deft stump
umbral oyster
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Interesting

pale prairie
umbral oyster
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Give pyskers 100 talent points so we can buy the whole board Ancestral_Trolling

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Dueling sword my beloved

cinder perch
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Boom just rolled one with 80 max in everything except warp res AND unstable power level 3

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Also warp slice which is fun but probably not as good

deft stump
cinder perch
deft stump
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Just use wrath or something else.

wind wind
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Imma go online at around 22:30 my time. (German time). Any of you here willing to pull a funni with me and play auric damnation or even auric maelstrom with just 4 psykers? KEKW_ogryn

pale prairie
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So like in 2 hours 40 min

wind wind
tulip kettle
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just use what you got until you have the mastery level to perfect it

pale prairie
deft stump
wind wind
pale prairie
wind wind
cinder perch
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Think it's worth taking the hit that is going all the way from scry to warp battery or should I just take disrupt destiny (or maybe empower but I'm running brain burst atm)?

wind wind
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Honestly outside of monstrosities we should be good. Psyker can excell against anything else. Would just need to be balanced. A voidblast staff user, a gunker, a flamestaff and maybe a bubble knight working in perfect harmony would work

pale prairie
cinder perch
pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
cinder perch
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(Shock staff in main hand so I can kill big buggers)

deft stump
pale prairie
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RMB is for emergency CC

pale prairie
cinder perch
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Genuine question <3

deft stump
pale prairie
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Also assail is an easy way to get peril while horde clearing

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You swing a few times then swap and throw a couple shards then go back to melee swinging

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Also it’s an excellent answer to rager packs

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Shotgun gangs

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Gunner gangs

deft stump
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WS but for Psyker. Warp specialist.

pale prairie
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A trapper or dog hiding in chaff

pale prairie
cinder perch
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Eh what the hell ill give the full rightist psyler a go

pale prairie
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For inspiration

deft stump
pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
cinder perch
pale prairie
deft stump
cinder perch
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Wait hold on does the regular melee of the fgs count as a warp attack?

pale prairie
pale prairie
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Are you talking for malefic momentum?

cinder perch
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Yeah just curious

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Guess it means I get better assail shards and silly zap stick

pale prairie
# cinder perch Yeah just curious

Yeah that’s why assail and malefic momentum pairs so well with meleeker. Kill some horde get better shards and void bullets. Kill some stuff with void bullets and shards and now your sword is doing +25% damage in addition to DD stacks

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Assail also is nice because it usually defaults to headshot kills which means 3 DD stacks for one kill

tulip kettle
deft stump
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I just use EP because simpler for newbies.

tulip kettle
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really, with what your build goal is, just run standard right side build

deft stump
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I take both because funni bounces on a big horde.

ripe obsidian
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TIL the grenade box one-bops Maulers, but Rock does not.

cinder perch
tulip kettle
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with MK6 FGS and a recon lasgun/laspistol/infantry autogun

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then yes, to maximise damage, try to stay at high peril, and throw an assail or 2 every 5 seconds or so

ripe obsidian
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breed_instakill_overrides = {
        chaos_hound = true,
        chaos_poxwalker_bomber = true,
        corruptor_body = true,
        cultist_berzerker = true,
        cultist_gunner = true,
        cultist_mutant = true,
        cultist_mutant_mutator = true,
        cultist_shocktrooper = true,
        renegade_executor = true,
        renegade_gunner = true,
        renegade_shocktrooper = true,
    },

versus

breed_instakill_overrides = {
        chaos_hound = true,
        chaos_poxwalker_bomber = true,
        corruptor_body = true,
        cultist_berzerker = true,
        cultist_gunner = true,
        cultist_mutant = true,
        cultist_mutant_mutator = true,
        cultist_shocktrooper = true,
        renegade_gunner = true,
        renegade_shocktrooper = true,
    },
tulip kettle
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ooo it instakills maulers

ripe obsidian
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Grenade box does

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Rock does not

pale prairie
deft stump
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
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I think it's both

cinder perch
ripe obsidian
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overrides.ogryn_grenade_box_cluster_impact = {
    parent_template_name = "ogryn_grenade_box_impact",
    overrides = {
        {
            "cleave_distribution",
            no_cleave,
        },
    },
}
tulip kettle
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i think gunker is easier to play

ripe obsidian
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Seems like the cluster bomb just copies the base blitz for the initial impact

tulip kettle
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you could of course swap scriers gaze for bubble

pale prairie
tulip kettle
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indeed

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you either build around your staff

wind wind
tulip kettle
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or build around your melee

pale prairie
deft stump
tulip kettle
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and staff builds are very specific and dont usually use the right side of the tree

wind wind
deft stump
wind wind
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Imma post a striketeam invite in here once i am off work. The psykers intersted may join me.

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
deft stump
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This is my personal ver of that build.

pale prairie
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Automatic basics

pale prairie
pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
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Damn MOBAS are so toxic just mentioning the name is bannable!

wind wind
pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
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It’s like Ainz insisting on BB EP in havoc 40

deft stump
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They come from the classic...

deft stump
wind wind
pale prairie
brazen compass
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Legend has it Karien showed her the ropes

strong gulch
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Watching skudie play is something else.

pale prairie
tulip kettle
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skudie was utterly cracked at this game even a month after it came out

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yeah just search skudie

ripe obsidian
# pale prairie I can test later

There are five grenades listed.

Ogryn_grenade_frag
Ogryn_grenade_box_cluster_grenade
Ogryn_grenade_box
Ogryn_grenade_friend_rock
Ogryn_grenade_box_cluster

verbal thistle
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Skudie is very good

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A goofy psyker playstyle

ripe obsidian
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But that last one appears to be the mortis grenade upgrade

pale prairie
deft stump
strong gulch
full storm
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What are the odds of they changing smite for something else?

What you think of an ability similar to Brain burst but it's only able to be used at close range up to...10 meters? it charges really fast, 60% peril per use, single target bust of electricity, can nuke oggys with a single use

pale prairie
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Oh makes sense cause it just uses default box profile

verbal thistle
full storm
verbal thistle
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Confused me, what do you mean?

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Ohhh

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If it's lore accurate?

full storm
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The made up ability is cool?

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In theme with darktide

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too broken?

verbal thistle
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Hmmm

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Conflicts too much with the lighting staff

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The staff already does that

full storm
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Hey true true

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Pocket electro staff and then we got to use the bubble staff

granite stratus
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you mean the bowling ball staff

cinder perch
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Or other big guy

full storm
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Yeah the circle thrower staff

pale prairie
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Plus SG

strong gulch
pale prairie
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@strong gulch truly she is very cracked

verbal thistle
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Last time she joined VC was while ago

strong gulch
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Still some older content worth watching.

verbal thistle
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She just probably chills in auric

strong gulch
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valid

ripe obsidian
# pale prairie What the

Okay, it seems that the non-mortis cluster bomb is just "ogryn_grenade_box_cluster". I think. Talent is named "ogryn_box_explodes", which references the projectile template above. So the randomized mortis thing is actually only there if you have "ogryn_box_of_surprise", otherwise it appears to use the regular projectile

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Which means that I dunno what the fifth grenade is.

pale prairie
tulip kettle
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your staff sucks vs crushers

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your sword kills them in 2 bonks

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use the sword

ripe obsidian
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That come out of the cluster grenade

marble crater
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All I know about Skudie is: naked and good at the game loregryn

verbal thistle
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Rip naked

marble crater
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Not naked anymore? Sitgryn

verbal thistle
pale prairie
verbal thistle
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They removed naked awhile ago, currently nearly impossible for anyone to be

marble crater
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Damn you Fatshark

tulip kettle
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i met someone about a week ago who was still

verbal thistle
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But who knows, I know a few modders that could if they tried

pale prairie
verbal thistle
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Could be a bugged version

pale prairie
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Like Ogryn scarecrow body

tulip kettle
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apparently if they never changed any cosmetics it never got removed

verbal thistle
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Last week

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Was funny while it lasted

pale prairie
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Damn it

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What’s with the fixing priority

verbal thistle
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Lmao

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Idk man

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"why can't we have fun anymore" - one of my modder friends

pale prairie
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They take the funny but leave behind 9 million fall damage if I am too close to a wall during captain shield burst

tulip kettle
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sometimes i look at the shirtless folder longingly

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but putting it into the mod list just crashes the game

pale prairie
buoyant maple
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when did I tell u to remove that for this weapon

pale prairie
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Get him

verbal thistle
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His dreams

upper sun
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@buoyant maple when i asked for build advice

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and you removed the cleave on push talent

upper sun
pale prairie
upper sun
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taxe is a brainrot weapon idc

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I WILL NOT USE THE TAXE

verbal thistle
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Says the guy using ASM

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Black kettle?

upper sun
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yea

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but my brainrot is better than urs

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
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But deleting the extra profile broke the game so just leave it in and don’t use

summer prairie
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which profile

pale prairie
summer prairie
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that's 5

pale prairie
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They both instant kill the same stuff so Six was saying they are the same and not distinct

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Probably paraphrasing wrong

ripe obsidian
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Grenade_box and grenade_box_cluster appear to be identical, as the latter is just a copy of the former

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Box_cluster_grenade is the smol projectile from the cluster bomb

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Frag is frag, rok is rok

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This is for the initial impact damage.

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I wonder why the grenade boxes have a mauler instakill but the rok does not?

modest perch
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metal > stone

verbal thistle
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or

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Rock & Stone

modest perch
modest perch
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🪨 ā›ļø

pale prairie
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Goddamn C4 happy driller

ripe obsidian
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I am curious: which dorf would you guess I play most in DRG?

modest perch
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dr rockzo ... leonard rockstein ... rock-stone ....

verbal thistle
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the sniper was selling something from his shop

pale prairie
buoyant maple
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I only did that for tac axe

upper sun
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😔

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chat i am killing path

buoyant maple
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oh wait

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I think I did run forceful for +50% cleave

ripe obsidian
buoyant maple
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cuz if u can choose between the two, forceful's subnode is much better

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except

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now that EO works

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EO is just better

pale prairie
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It was easy: ā€œwhich class has flamethrowerā€

ripe obsidian
verbal thistle
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EO is defense as well

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boss DR and toughness regen

pale prairie
verbal thistle
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ye

pale prairie
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Movement speed too

verbal thistle
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it was semi balanced when it was "bugged"

pale prairie
buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
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If Arbiter didn't have such stupidly high base damage, I would go EO. But they already do, so I like forceful to play stupidly

pale prairie
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ā€œWe balanced arbiter by breaking part of the treeā€

ā€œWe buffed arbiter by fixing his treeā€

ripe obsidian
verbal thistle
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yeah iirc

ripe obsidian
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And the toughness regen is on marked kill?

verbal thistle
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ye

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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But because you mark the world, it's basically on any elite or special kill

ripe obsidian
zinc phoenix
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Barbie is so easy the hardest part is remembering your team exists

ripe obsidian
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That's not the part that's dumb

pale prairie
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Also 15 % toughness regen on kill

modest perch
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last until the end of a mission (or until you disconnect)

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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"Periodically mark Elites, Specialists and Bosses for Mercy Sanction. Killing a marked enemy replenishes 15% Toughness.

Your Cyber-Mastiff gains +150% Cyber-Mastiff Damage for 8s after attacking a marked enemy. You gain +15% Damage and +10% Attack Speed for 8s after killing a Marked Enemy."

"Scans for targets within 40m to mark. Only marks targets who are inside Arbitrator's FOV and who have line of sight to Arbitrator. Valid targets are enemies with either the elite, the special, the monster, or the captain / cultist_captain tag; instantly marks monsters and captains within range, all other valid targets are marked one by one every 3s. There is no limit to how many total targets can be marked at the same time. Once marked, the outline remains on the target until it dies."

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Versus Psyker's DD

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"Scans for targets within 40m to mark. Only marks targets who are currently inside Psyker's FOV. Marks a new target if the current one has been outside of Psyker's FOV for more than 5s, or if the current target has lost line of sight to Psyker for more than 5s. Valid targets are: Bruisers, Ritualist, Stalkers, Scab Shooter, Ragers, Gunners, Shotgunners, and Mauler. Marks one target at a time. If the target dies, selects a new one within 1s."

pale prairie
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Don’t forget kills get you cooldown

modest perch
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dd needs a fat buff

ripe obsidian
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"What if DD, but no limit on targets and they stay marked forever?"

pale prairie
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No peril bar though so HA

ripe obsidian
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Yeah, more or less

pale prairie
# ripe obsidian Yeah, more or less

ā€œBut sir it needs to be different!ā€

ā€œEh uuuuuuuh give them a ummmm dog yeah a dog that can’t die cause nobody likes dead dogs! Also make it do more damage than a vet when done right cause that will be fun.ā€

ripe obsidian
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I like the idea of a permanent, undying dog. I do not like the idea of a permanent, undying dog that performs better than half your teammates

pale prairie
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Lmao

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Bleed pounce

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Lmao

ripe obsidian
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Do I need to post my bleed pounce videos again

strong gulch
verbal thistle
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vt moment

pale prairie
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Holy shit these abilities are so cracked

ripe obsidian
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Blood for the Bleed Dog

verbal thistle
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I did an auric solo with only dog

pale prairie
strong gulch
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I'm washed in VT2

pale prairie
strong gulch
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rip

verbal thistle
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got a video

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one sec

pale prairie
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The hard part was not falling asleep

verbal thistle
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vt mood

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
strong gulch
verbal thistle
verbal thistle
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one sec, launching

ripe obsidian
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Your thumbnails are a sight to behold

verbal thistle
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337735793

verbal thistle
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I make them all myself

pale prairie
verbal thistle
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steam friendcopde

strong gulch
verbal thistle
ripe obsidian
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I played Taxe for the first time last night

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It appears to be LMB simulator

verbal thistle
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depends

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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Psyker

verbal thistle
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light attack only on cara somtimes on unyield

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pa heavy spam

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for everything

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mk 7

ripe obsidian
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I don't even know what mark I was using

pale prairie
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Interesting

ripe obsidian
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I was trying to be a cowboy

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And I didn't feel like building a knife

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

So it was taxe, because I kept running out of agri revolver ammo

verbal thistle
strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

I think this is the tree I was using.

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Can't remember if I had OwtW or Anticipation, actually

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Though we did get our random 4th to immediately quit when we were loading in. :D

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They did not have faith in the builds

wind wind
#

At least from my uneducated view

ripe obsidian
#

I'm not much of a gunker, so I am not positive just how far from optimal it was

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But the lack of Assail is pretty rough imo

quartz barn
#

True gunker doesnt need assail imo

wind wind
#

Eh.... You can do well without assail (let the war in the comments ensue)

quartz barn
#

You do so much dmg its not needed

wind wind
#

Hot take: Smite is better anyways chadgryn KEKW_ogryn

quartz barn
#

Just dont bother with your blitz

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Pathing only chadgryn

wind wind
quartz barn
#

Skill tree pathing

ripe obsidian
#

Assail also paths to Malefic Momentum

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I'm also not sure how to make DB shotgun feel great on Psyker. I like it a lot for Weapon Spec Veteran, since guaranteed crits and instant reload, but otherwise it felt kinda clunky.

wind wind
#

@icy breach please bestow upon us ye wisdom o wise one, @ripe obsidian needs to know all this Shit mentioned above

ripe obsidian
#

I am mostly a Staffker, and I have done many an H40 with every staff not named Voidstrike.

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I have done H30-something with a bog standard bubble knight build

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But that's the extent of my gunking

sinful peak
#

hmm warp unbound or tts?

pale prairie
pale prairie
sinful peak
#

I basically only take tts for staying in gaze while melting bosses, but I'm not sure if it's worth

pale prairie
sinful peak
pale prairie
upper sun
#

🚬 when is darktide gonna get steam cards?

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i KNOW the art department isnt doing anything

pale prairie
upper sun
#

WAIT

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VERMINTIDE HAS CARDS

pale prairie
#

Damn

upper sun
#

@deft stump and i can start charging steam cards for help with penances

hard widget
#

Vermintide also manages to show you 4 healthbars for each boss KEKW_ogryn

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

Yes.

pale prairie
#

Good.

ripe obsidian
# sinful peak hmm warp unbound or tts?

I would probably drop the movespeed node for Warp Unbound. Though most of the benefit from WU is assail spam or push attacks if you're using a force sword

pale prairie
icy breach
sinful peak
#

I mean it's cool but it's only active during gaze and I'm usually attacking in that time

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would be great if it lingered

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
#

Hey everyone six trolls people in havoc!

ripe obsidian
#

If not taking bubble is trolling, call me trollmann

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

That's a multilingual pun. Trollmann means "wizard"

hard widget
ripe obsidian
# icy breach ye this requires work; weapon choice too

The question that had ye summoned was more about making DB shotgun work on Psyker. It felt clunky, even considering the goofy build. I have had success with it on Weapon Spec veteran, but that's mostly because of the instant reload and guaranteed crits. Albeit True Aim does give guaranteed crits as well

icy breach
deft stump
deft stump
#

I don't think they should though.

ripe obsidian
hard widget
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

I like Shriek a lot in Havoc. I've tried SG a bit, but I can't keep it up as long as I would like on staves

glossy ember
#

man, the shock maul sucks ass huh šŸ’€

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tried a few more times but i can't think of any reason to bring it ever

ripe obsidian
#

I think it's pretty middling. Not amazing. Outpaced in most regards.

glossy ember
#

i thought it'd be super strong defensively due to the stun on block perk but it's kinda whatever

glossy ember
ripe obsidian
#

I'm not sure what it would need to be valuable

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Maybe more armor damage

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Make it an elite bonker

pale prairie
#

Really make the lightning bonk tie into lightning blitz

radiant frigate
#

and/or good defense

tired estuary
#

It already got 5 dodges

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I've had fine exp with it on zealot for h40, haven't used it enough on vet, it prolly still just kinda sucks for psyker

radiant frigate
#

i have never used it

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appeal to me it does not

pale prairie
#

Yeah yeah yeah ā€œsword need biggerā€

radiant frigate
#

magic swords will never not be cool

pale prairie
#

You’re not wrong

radiant frigate
#

channel your inner hexblade

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if the voices are telling you to slice heretics that's perfectly normal and you should listen to them

pale prairie
glossy ember
#

also better mobility, feels reaaaally slow

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maybe make the shock block gimmick built in? idk

verbal thistle
#

He decided to jump last second

pale prairie
#

Damn bullying is not game specific

verbal thistle
#

I'm shooting over him and he just jumps

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F

pale prairie
#

How’s the playerbase? Hard to find games?

verbal thistle
#

we're 4 rn so no problem

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but when I do pub I find insta full lobbies in cata

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idk about other difficulties

pale prairie
#

Nice

full storm
#

Hmmm what if they change the electri blitz for something like a punch powered in energy? something like a pocket powered crusher? It charges up pretty fast and each use is 30% peril, it can open up pretty much anything and deals a nice amount of dmg lets say... 1/4 of an ogryn crusher

does it fit the psyker theme?

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Plus it will give a nice cc options for gun psyker no?

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Dreaming doesn't cost anything

pale prairie
dusk timber
#

I dont think we need that drastic of a change

pale prairie
#

Just have it be some kind of charge up lightningbolt blast that stuns and staggers for a bit

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Enemies are immune to a second one for a few seconds so people don’t just spam

full storm
pale prairie
full storm
#

Oh wait we can charge it up right? M2 I mean

buoyant maple
#

I want them to make charged strike good

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Unironically

full storm
#

Just give us some chidory option non aoe minimal dmg but si gle target mega cc option

wind wind
#

As promised earlier

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Join me if you dare

radiant frigate
dusk timber
#

Which one is surge?

buoyant maple
radiant frigate
#

but right now it's cosmetic

buoyant maple
pale prairie
buoyant maple
#

Can make the stun generate peril as well

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Up to 97% peril

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If stun, generate X peril

radiant frigate
#

building peril on every swing let's go

pale prairie
radiant frigate
#

relic blade psyker unleashed

pale prairie
#

Also meleeker peril generation hahaha

radiant frigate
#

i would love this

buoyant maple
#

Also make the electric DOT from charged strike count as warp damage

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So it gets buffs

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And can trigger warp atk kill talents

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To give toughness

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Fix 2 problems at once

radiant frigate
#

hold up, it doesn't already do that?

buoyant maple
#

No

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Electric DOT kills from charged strike don’t give toughness

radiant frigate
#

WOW charged strike is even worse than i thought

pale prairie
#

Yeah I would love some better lightning, fire, and telekinetic identities and consolidation in the trees

buoyant maple
#

If u want to run charged strike u need enfeeble anyway to make it remotely good

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And it’s only because it’s weirdly bugged with enfeeble

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And it’s pure electric DOT

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No stagger effect

full storm
#

Odd

buoyant maple
#

So u can bring a FGS to fight multiple ragers and proceed to have your back blown out because FGS has a total of 2 attacks that do ok stagger

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One is the wildly overpowered warp slash

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The other is push attack which is single target only

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Ur heavy attacks cannot stagger any enemy worth staggering

#

Very peak design FatShark

radiant frigate
#

i would like it if charged strike had a branching path to it
path 1: lightning/stun variant
path 2: soulblaze/crit synergy

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and also baked into smite

buoyant maple
#

Nah just make it do a short stun and count as warp attack

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Doesn’t even need to be a long stun

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Even if 0.5s is enough

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Cuz u only need it to break enemy attacks

full storm
#

I like that idea

buoyant maple
#

Generate peril on successfully stunning an enemy

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So u get a ton of peril from cleaving and stunning a bunch of enemies

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So u don’t fk ur peril over by running BCoB

pale prairie
#

Wait so I could blow up from hitting one too many enemies with my sword?

buoyant maple
#

Disable at 97% true peril

pale prairie
#

That kinda tanks pairing it with SG I guess

buoyant maple
#

Nah u only don’t have it for a pretty short time

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Cuz if u run charged strike u don’t have assail to spam at max peril anyway

pale prairie
buoyant maple
#

And it doesn’t need to build a lot of peril per enemy stunned

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Could be like 2% per

pale prairie
buoyant maple
#

Could also make it 2% per attack that stuns >0 enemies

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So u can’t giga build peril by cleaving a bunch of enemies

buoyant maple
#

It’s not rly relevant

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What kind of delulu would run SG to smite for 10s

pale prairie
buoyant maple
#

Nah keep it on smite

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So u can’t run assail while having this

pale prairie
#

Move BCoB

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So it’s one node on smite

buoyant maple
#

Idk about moving BCoB I think it’s placed in a decent spot

pale prairie
wind wind
#

Ogryn keeps rushing ahead with the arbites

#

Keeping me and the other psykers constantly behind lol

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Having to deal with everything they Aggro lmao

pale prairie
wind wind
#

Bullrush

wind wind
#

And we failed lmao

zealous wing
#

i live

#

anyone want me to join them for whatever shenanigans?

dusk timber
graceful arch
#

10 hours till home.

graceful arch
#

Can take troll builds into havoc 40.

zealous wing
#

i've supposedly got a proper inferno build but i've done one run with it on damnation event

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so, no practice really whatsoever

graceful arch
#

If you don't care about your assignment rank you're free to join tomorrow

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Will do h40's with some people.

zealous wing
#

willing to try h40's again

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furthest i've been through one was halfway

pale prairie
#

So don’t worry about lack of practice hahaha

zealous wing
#

i believe it was also hi intensity, because there WAS a lot, but it mightve also just been because gloriana

graceful arch
#

Eh I'd say psyker has a better time with high density anyways up until the monstrosities start coming out of the Woodworks.

zealous wing
#

i was the only one who didnt die, so theres that

pale prairie
graceful arch
pale prairie
zealous wing
#

ye i just decided fuck it, had an EK build, an unused inferno, and a dueling sword i've never used either

zealous wing
graceful arch
#

Lol

pale prairie
graceful arch
#

Did they get barreled?

pale prairie
#

/s

graceful arch
zealous wing
#

i think mostly they got pummeled

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9 deaths, all but one were them

pale prairie
#

Lmao

graceful arch
#

I mean depending on what they brought it might make sense.

pale prairie
#

Six was taking absolutely shit builds he has no practice with

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And beans was doing beans things like blowing up barrels and hitting shit with the tomes

zealous wing
#

i had to clutch at the very start around gunners and a plague ogryn lmao

graceful arch
#

Lol

zealous wing
#

or malice

zealous wing
#

maybe heresy im not sure

#

we did all three for book hunting

hearty wolf
#

Zzz

graceful arch
#

I still need to get the frame for the event how many days left?

graceful arch
#

Welcome back sin.

zealous wing
#

9d

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11h

graceful arch
#

Oh so I got like a week got it

pale prairie
#

Oh yeah

wispy bay
#

It is not a frame btw, in case you try to look for it later.

graceful arch
#

Fair I just assumed it was a frame cause it's usually what we get.

pale prairie
zealous wing
#

insignia

buoyant maple
pale prairie
zealous wing
#

no you wont but you do you

glossy ember
#

this was a funky event

pale prairie
#

I mean being surrounded by bursters is really shitty but other than that

glossy ember
#

ten trillion bursters rushing in your direction

pale prairie
#

Probably would be way easier if I was going EK staff

glossy ember
#

i had a game today where the first encounter had bursters spawn from front first then later back, and some dude pushed the front bursters, slid back into the back bursters and instantly died šŸ’€

graceful arch
#

Think I played the event on auric when I had time for a game and just had a rando blow up 3 in my face.

pale prairie
#

The only thing that actually does damage to them

graceful arch
pale prairie
#

In this though. I can pause and laugh

#

Light up a cigar

#

Enjoy the moment

glossy ember
#

i got instantly killed so many times by bursters during this event that i took a bomber res (it didn't help)

graceful arch
#

Fair enough

#

Yellow toughness is the best cure for pox bursters.

pale prairie
wispy bay
#

Shoot them down before they get close.

glossy ember
#

it's fine when they make a conga line

glossy ember
graceful arch
pale prairie
glossy ember
#

also @ whoever named their psyker erith im sorry if my build scared you i didn't mean that OMEGALUL

graceful arch
#

I should bring rumbler oggy on the event in aurics on gloriana

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My teammates will love me

graceful arch
pale prairie
graceful arch
#

Yeah the most you can do is run corruption resist to avoid filling a wound as fast.

pale prairie
glossy ember
#

man..

graceful arch
#

They should just add it to bomber resist.

#

Make it even more stacked.

pale prairie
#

They should add crusher resist

graceful arch
graceful arch
pale prairie
#

Don’t spoil it

#

So many people would grab it

graceful arch
#

Getting crusher overheaded as zealot is equally funny each time.

#

Oh there my entire hp bar gets corrupted again.

#

Luckily doesn't happen that often.

glossy ember
#

tried this out, it's pretty fun

pale prairie
#

Interesting

glossy ember
#

crack of the bone might not be it though, doesn't seem to have much uptime from the scoreboard.
(mind you i just be playing aurics)

pale prairie
#

At least you didn’t grab OWtW with all that quelling. Dunno how much warp rider is helping

umbral oyster
#

Chat how do I find people to q with

pale prairie
glossy ember
pale prairie
#

What’s the staff

glossy ember
#

electro

#

ran mk6 knife, want to try greatsword next

pale prairie
#

And you don’t want the extra finesse damage of precognition?

glossy ember
#

i forgot that was a thing šŸ’€

graceful arch
#

How is the cleave on the mk 6 anyways I only really use the mk 3.

pale prairie
glossy ember
glossy ember
#

11.2% combat uptime with knife

#

i imagine sword will get a lot more mileage

#

i just like knife though it's a funny weapon

pale prairie
#

You’d think so being able to hit multiple dudes

glossy ember
#

maybe i should run the peril cleave for knife Monk

#

instead of peril quell

hearty wolf
#

Time for a relaxing night time havoc

graceful arch
hearty wolf
graceful arch
#

I might play some havocs In 9 hours with no sleep.

#

Time to demote some party finder teammates.

hearty wolf
#

If only I was around in 9h

glossy ember
#

i imagine this is a typo?

verbal thistle
#

ye

#

up to 20

glossy ember
#

figured lol

graceful arch
glossy ember
#

5 whole %

glossy ember
#

i'll probably give knife another go with precog and warp splitting though

upper sun
#

chat

#

are we up for a night cap?

#

i swear

#

people who queue up for smelter suck the most

ripe obsidian
wind wind
wind wind
upper sun
upper sun
ripe obsidian
#

As soon as they appeared

upper sun
ripe obsidian
#

Press F to bully ragers

upper sun
#

2 bosses already so easily clutchable

ripe obsidian
#

BtL has like a 12 second CD. Less if you go EO. Never don't use it

upper sun
#

ye i know

ripe obsidian
#

This is not meant to be advice

#

This is meant to be me encouraging recklessness

#

I apologize if it came across as criticism

upper sun
#

no

#

its good advice

#

and very valid

#

arby ult is lowkey better than an ogryn ult because it doesnt move you across the map

ripe obsidian
#

I want to turn this knob.

ripe obsidian
patent jacinth
ripe obsidian
#

For BtL:

"There is currently a bug: The cooldown effect procs twice per target (impact & shout), and the amount of hits is stored instead of being cleared after combat ability use."

#

It is goofy

upper sun
#

arby ult still stops far better than you can manually

pale prairie
upper sun
pale prairie
#

Listen to clad he’s an engineer

upper sun
#

ye

pale prairie
graceful arch
upper sun
#

PERFECTLY SAFE

graceful arch
#

He opens the valve leaving it open so the next time it's turned on it floods the building.

median furnace
#

Human rights? We don't do that here.

zealous wing
#

just saw the saddest thing

ripe obsidian
#

Engineer is a protected title in Europe

pale prairie
#

Alright where is this cursed maelstrom

zealous wing
#

a player was up a floor, tried to jump down to me, he thought it was safe, i thought it was safe, and the game said "nuh-uh" and he died from hanging there, it was a one way drop

zealous wing
#

i didnt, i just stood there and watched

#

honestly i wouldve done the same thing, it was the same floor you WOULD drop down from at the drop point

upper sun
pale prairie
pale prairie
upper sun
#

unironically i have no idea wht they make you pay 10 euro to get your diploma stamped after all that studying and tuition

zealous wing
pale prairie
#

The stamp guild needs paid too

upper sun
#

DUDE

zealous wing
upper sun
#

the fucking ring was paid too

pale prairie
#

HE GOT AN INSIGNIA

#

AND A TRINKET

upper sun
#

i had to pay 120 euro for a very skiny silver ring

pale prairie
#

holy shit

zealous wing
#

HAD to?

upper sun
#

well i wanted it

zealous wing
#

is that the ring thats like a reminder that lives are at stake if you fuck up

upper sun
#

nah thats canada

zealous wing
#

ah

upper sun
#

europe doesnt do iron rings

zealous wing
#

still its a smart idea ngl

pale prairie
upper sun
#

if i fuck up you just get to spend 10 minutes without electricity

pale prairie
zealous wing
#

possibly longer depending on how badly you fucked up (electrocuted yourself)

upper sun
#

unironically people should be scared

zealous wing
upper sun
#

electicity providers have disgustingly bad security

zealous wing
#

i was mid auric spree with the group and suddenly, cant continue

pale prairie
upper sun
#

@ripe obsidian six would get a kick out of this
my work laptop when i was doing my internship was supposed to be locked down
i didnt know i was supposed to use special USBs to copy data from it so i just plugged in an SD card
i told my supervisor and he almost had a heart attack, apparently theyre not supposed to work but IT forgot to lock down SD readers

zealous wing
#

i couldve done art or music in the meantime but i was in murdermode

ripe obsidian
#

If you have a security team, they would've had a fit

#

Or they need an audit

upper sun
#

dude i swear europeans suck at cybersecurity they dont have the mindset of "how can i break this rule?"

pale prairie
#

was it an infected laptop?

ripe obsidian
#

I had a client back when I was at the MSP that paid us to superglue the USB ports on PCs we set up

upper sun
#

also for example my supermarket app randomly gives out qr discount codes, theyre supposed to be single use only BUT BUT if you take a screenshot you can use it for every item in a single perchance

upper sun
ripe obsidian
#

I think they had a HIPAA violation in the past and were overcompensating

upper sun
#

🚬 till this day i have copies of super secret training manuals

ripe obsidian
upper sun
#

ok theyre not secret just basic cable guage stuff

#

but still not meant for distribution

ripe obsidian
#

"How can I lie to get around the rules?"

ripe obsidian
upper sun
#

underground mains cables

ripe obsidian
#

Neat

#

I don't even touch cables at work anymore

#

I tell other people to do it. It's weird.

hearty wolf
upper sun
#

2late 😭

hearty wolf
#

:(

#

@ripe obsidian okay are you happy now

#

I took it

#

The sacrifice ^

pale prairie
#

Yeah playing arbites is just one big sacrifice

hearty wolf
#

Sacrifice to win a game yes

flint pollen
#

how do i properly use my blitz? i never find a use for it 😭 (brain rupture for reference)

#

well, i 'use' it passively from kinetic flayer, but actually channelling it seems meh

upper sun
flint pollen
#

aha

upper sun
#

use it for snipers too far away

static sonnet
#

Say there are 5 gunners and you are behind cover. You can target one at a time and popem from cover

upper sun
#

but tbh aside from bosses staff is better

static sonnet
#

And yeah auto hitting dogs from 100m away is great

flint pollen
#

yeah, i dont really like any of the blitzes but getting to pop distant stuff seems nice

upper sun
#

also if you cant see a sniper you can hold m1 and wiggle until it locks on it

flint pollen
#

oooo

#

interesting, tysm

#

also, do kinetic flayer kills progress penances?